MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 67 (w/ Arnold Allen, Dricus Du Plessis)

Episode Date: January 28, 2020

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Arnold Allen (19:00) joins us from the airport to discuss going 7-0 with the UFC with win over Nik Lentz. Former KSW champ and EFC double champ Dricus Du Plessis (47:30) stops by to shed light on his proximity to a UFC contract and a potential KSW title fight with Scott Askham. Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath discuss the latest headlines in MMA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Isn't it nice to be home? Isn't it nice to be home with my lover and my friend? Easy now. Oh, absence makes the heart grow fonder, my good friend, Noel. How are you? I've missed you greatly. And just feels good to be back in your embrace. It does, doesn't it?

Yeah. You needed a hug this evening. You're a bit jet lag. Oh, I'm in bits. Yeah. I've been texting Phil O'Connor every night at 5am, and he's always awake. Like, he's like, yeah, I'm here too. He is.

I was, I'm pretty. pretty bad for you late nights as well but I did go to Amsterdam immediately after getting back from Las Vegas which didn't help like with the jet lags did you go straight away

well I was home for about eight hours and then I went Jesus you're a brave man braver man than me I would be doing that stuff now oh it was great time it was one of the best cities we've been to me in Atlanta

have to say but yeah still was waking up over there 3 a.m. to 7 and then I'm going to sleep again and then waking up because we had things to do or whatever but yeah I'm in a bad way but I'm still alive

just about. It looked like you a good time. Yeah, it was decent. Lots of, like, you know, it's weird being, like, it's great being with a full team at M.A. fighting at these events, but I'm constantly running around going, I'm doing enough because you're usually

worked off your feet, you know, when you're by yourself. I'm like, can I do something? Like, yeah, relax. Chill out. By yourself, it's like a constant. Yeah, yeah. Like, there's always, something to be done. Yeah, you don't have a second.

Like, you're waking up everyone, like, with five things to do. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a different buzz altogether. But it was a good event. I felt we covered it very well.

Yeah, great job all week. Well, on, great stuff. Yeah, we had a good hour a week. But, and look, it was a home run for McGregor, really. Like, I mean, in terms of it was a turn. We'll talk about a bit about that in a few minutes. I just want to run through the headlines. Because the Eurobatch listeners have not got your thoughts, really, on this.

I know you've done lots of radio shows and stuff, but I'm sure they want to hear from the man himself. But let's take a look at these headlines first. Joy Herbert signs for the UFC. He will replace Stevie Ray and fight a fellow former Obama champion in Mark Di Acase on March 21st. That is a really good fucking fight, isn't it? Oh, my God. Love it, man. I think it's actually better than the Stevie Ray fight.

We have a little shot off air there, and I know, like, I threw the headlines in a minute. But in terms of, like, a stand-up bang-out, you know, stand-and-bang fight, fight. Obviously, Mark's really good wrestling. Fantastic. Really good fight. Probably better than the other fight. I'm really excited for it. I'm losing my shit about it to be honest.

Cyril Gann v. Shamil Abderakamov will go down at UFC 249 in Brooklyn, the same card that we hope Habib will face Tony Ferguson on. Jack Shore will take on Geraldo DeFritus at the UFC London as well. Interesting one this, nothing confirmed here, but I love it. Jojo Collarwood offers to welcome Alexa Grasso to 125. That might be a really nice fight. I think it's a really good fight. Ryan Beridore v. Nemcoff is going down on May 9th, 205 title. Ryan will be getting back down to the low heavyweight limits for that one.

Paul Redmond v. Georgie Carcannion, and this was brought by Severum May earlier this week when it was discovered that Redmond's initial opponent, initial opponent, who was it? Ryan Scope. Royne Scope was forced from the card. I think it was injured hand, Andy Stevenson, someone's telling me.

Cage Warriors, they have booked Paul Hughes v. Antonio Sheldon for. for Cage Warriors, Manchester. Good to see Paul being booked again. He'd obviously fought for Cage Warriors, but he fought for different promotions afterwards. But another great talent there for Irish cards here. We have that Belfast card coming up on May, I believe.

4-0 prospect, you know, him, Reese, Joe, Ian, Gary. You know, there's lots of and lots of guys here. That's really, really good. All of the Irish will make for really interesting fights when the cards do come here. So that's some really good business there by Cage Warriors. Of course, that fight's taking place. in March so Paul could still get a turnaround and fighting

Belfast I'm sure that's what they're hoping for and finally I just noticed this today on In the cage. at PL Gamrod finally voicing interest in facing Saladin Parnasse that is the fight to make of your KSW holy shit I love that I love it I think that's the last thing Saladin Pernas will have to do beat another undefeated guy just to prove like I'm in a different world and he's class and right now I'm picking Saladin

I mean there's a reason why Gamrod sat out for so long I mean, he knew this kid was there with the interim title. I mean, if it was a piece of piss, why wouldn't you go in and take the one of the most talked about prospect in Europe? You know, all his momentum and put the first loss on his record. Yeah, I agree. I agree, definitely. Right. So, let's just do a quick cast our minds back to USC 246 here with Noel McGrath. The Mind McGrae.

I mean, it was pretty much a home run from Connor, right? Yeah, couldn't have gone any better. I think, you know, all week. we looked at what he did in the press conferences the really nice guy you know really sort of maybe a little bit like the old Connor McGregor a little bit you know the vibrancy

talked himself up obviously he said he was very confident it was just a home run obviously he went in there and disposed the cable in 40 seconds like what more can you say what more can you do when you're obviously your name and reputation is sort of damaged all over the world and especially back here

and go out and put on such a performance in a respectful manner as well, I think what he said after the fight as well to cowboy and his grandmother and things like that. It's a home run. You know, you go out and you destroy cowboy and what was it bang on 40 seconds?

I think it was 40 seconds, yeah. What more than you? I mean, yeah, and I think I agree with the way he carried himself before and after. I mean, it was such a big contrast to what we saw at 2,29. You were obviously there at that fight. And some people were like,

oh, I wish it was a bit more controversy and something like, I was like, I'm happy with this. I'm very content. with this. But I do feel as though if they make that Habib fight, there's so much bad blood

there that can only go under. Yeah, it can't. It is going to happen. Oh, yeah. Eventually we're going to see it. Inevitable. By the end of the year, I think a lot of people are sort of,

which I put a tweet out in the week. Like a lot of people were even Dana White, you know, oh, the rematch is going to, like Tony Ferguson is fighting Habib. Let's hope, right? But like, people are just looking, overlooking Tony Ferguson, big time, man. It's crazy.

It's mental. I don't understand it. But if you're looking at McGregor again, as you're saying, there and we're going to talk about, you know, what his demeanor was like in his behavior. He'll get away with it doing a little bit more now. He'll piece her back together and he'll get a little bit more angry in the next fight. It's not as much at certain times, at certain points.

And he's not going to be as respectful to cowboys as everyone else. I think, look, there definitely wasn't the Irish people over there that were before, not even near it. But I do believe it's a good foundation he's built there. Definitely to win people back. I'm not messing, man. Like, I have friends that were like, I hope Soroni kills him, blah, blah, blah. And the day after, they were like, oh, look, he's won me back over. Like, you know, they were being honest, like, did you feel that as well over here?

Like, I said it to Brad. I said, when we were chatting to Brad on Sunday on YouTube, to Brad Wharton Cageware's commentator, we little chat about the fights. And my said to... He wrote a great article as well in the lead-up to the fight, Brad. Was it, it might have been afterwards. Yeah, it was MMA odds breaker, I think he put it out with. And it was just interesting that my phone was hopping the next morning

and people going, like, oh, watching the fight, is he back? and like you're just going to what the fuck these are guys like that you know we're giving out of the same shit number. We said this would happen if he could put his best foot forward and he could win and we knew like me and you were pretty convinced he was yeah yeah big time and and we knew if that could happen it would

provoke interest again and very good to see Connor speaking directly to yours people you know to RTE yeah I was just shouldn't say that you know they hold me accountable for what like you know for what I've done he recognizes that he had a drop off before that for you and you know I'm sure he knows

himself that he can just keep building from here and hopefully get back to somewhere close to where he wants. Yeah and I've never seen him. You know, I think it was, you know, was evident in the things that we were saying in the bill up to the fight as well that the amount of media he did in five week, he spoke with fecking everyone nearly. And I think that sort of shows you what we were saying is true in terms of, you know, he wants to put that good image back out there and do things like that. He's so good at it. But he has to do it more, you know, that's going to set a president for him. And, you know, he has to understand that we're here, we're not going away. And he's going to have to deal with.

the media deal with it probably in the same volume on five week from here on out if he wants to really sort of go back into the people's minds and have them thinking about him. Yeah, well at least that he's answered some of the questions, did he look good, he looked great, you know, but I feel like anywhere we go, it's going to be a big jump, you know,

I feel like maybe the best step is Nate Diaz. I totally disagree. But like, I mean, for him, in his term, no, I think, yeah, the way he's looking at the moment, like the Diaz fight's always there. I think you need new challenges now, the way he's going if he's all about this season like the Diaz fight he could lose that fight i think he you know brad made a point as well last week and i spoke to you off here about the the paul feldor sort of

back and forth which was very odd to me i'm thinking maybe connor's thinking that he's going to have to have one more two of these fights he wants one more two of these fights in terms of guys in the top four or five nates the only name he blatantly said though at the press comments he was like come on nathan yeah yeah come on that was very funny actually i enjoyed that but i'm just not sure i don't know if i'm buying that because that's going to take a long time to make to put and if Connor wants to stay active, stay in there, like he said to us, like he's promised a lot of people that he's going to do this season.

He's going to need to take another fight in the next two to three months. Habib and Tony aren't fighting until, what are we looking at? Did we say? April. But he believes that he will be fighting that night. He believes one of them is going to drop out and he's going to be stepping in. That's clear. I mean, he said it so many times.

Yeah, listen. No, like, this fight's happening at this time. I don't care. I'm going to make them. If they're both injured, I'm going to make them get in the ring. I won't. But this is why. him like if I'm him I'm his coaches I like the night fight I think it's the most winnable fight

there out of out of um you know Habib a Tony um Horhey Usman you know I believe that

the most winning winnable fight there for him is night days and it's a profitable fight but when do you think that would take place you know is July see I think I think he's going to fight before that well yeah he could but I mean if he fights in July it doesn't rule out and fighting again

December he's done it many times I'm worried whether Nate Diaz has I think Nate did obviously take the fight but he's come out of thing said again today that he's going to watch for the next few months and see what happens before he's getting back in there Yvuzman injured I think

I think Masvlau blew it totally blew it with the interview Yeah tell me about that because I didn't watch the broadcast I have no idea I know I know that yeah And the interview was just pain it was just rubbish What did he say? Literally nothing That's what he said it was awful

It was like It's mad because he's been hitting the bar Like he's been doing everything so well Yeah, and it was just a total letdown and, you know, I think Twitter sort of blew up people going, oh, well, I don't want to see this. I've only been using you guys as an example

because I saw your reaction and Sean Sheehan's and I was like, shit, he must have really, it must have went badly because that was the point we were talking about mostly, like, you know? Yeah, and Usman's injured. You know, there's not many options. I think, man, he might well. I think that's why he's trying to sort of pencil out

other people and go put a little tickle there. and obviously these guys are going to fucking want to fight him, but it is an option, it's something where he's going to build himself if he's looking at this season, and there is no other options available at this present time and moment, he's going to want to stay active.

And I think maybe that's why you're getting the little Paul Felder fielders out there as well. I think Felder would be out of the names I've mentioned. I think he's nowhere near getting it. Yeah, no, I agree with you, but that's what I'm saying in terms of if these guys are injured, they're not available,

not out, Connor wants to stay in there. That is true. John Kavanaughn is saying that at 170. I don't mind them fighting at 170. Like, I mean, you're fighting a lightweight That's 170 once we know that Like, yeah, I have no problem with that If they want to avoid the weight cut and fight out

The heavier weight class Yeah, yeah, I've no problem with that. But I can see, like, look, Connor's going to get what he wants at the end of the day If he can keep winning, that's all he needs to do But I can see like 55ers who are competing at 55 Getting a problem with a guy fighting 170 pounds and dropping down to fight the title again

But Connor makes his own rules I still think his eyes are on his own, I don't care what anyone says Really? Yeah, I think it's just the belt Threeweight World Champion It sets another president, sets another bar he's always after the records he talked about you know Donald Saroni during the week he wanted a head kick Donald Saroni and finished him by you it's mad that's the way he was thinking about that the whole time

well that's what I'm saying there you're saying it there like he wants won above everyone else the whole time if he gets that third world title um like you know what I mean that's another record for Connor that's the way he thinks man so I wouldn't be surprised that but I think there's definitely sort of it's a cloudy path to man we're not really sure what the fuck's going on again and like we But that's where he drives, right? Yeah, that's where everyone's interested now again. Man, look at the traction online. I think that's all we need to say.

I think it's fair to say it's definitely the biggest pay-per-view ESPN I've done. Yeah, and what did I say? A million, I reckon. I think we're 1.2, was it or something? Oh, did they? I don't think they revealed anything. That was what they were trajecting. Oh, the trending.

Yeah, 1.2 or something like that. But, yeah, listen, even in here in Ireland, I know you weren't obviously here, but certain outlets started, you know. I saw that. Covering Connor McGregor. Again, yeah. Like, it just shows you how stupid the media are here at certain times. And, you know, clearly, I think, you know, YouTube Everton was trending number one, McGregor.

But this is the thing. His redemption story, the fact that he had fallen off with the people, that was the whole thing about this fight. Like, if that isn't there, there's no storyline. He's just fighting a dude. Oh, yeah, 100%. You know what I mean? is you sick. Yeah.

The whole fucking countdown show was built around this, like him throwing shit on a bus. And Irish people going, oh, we don't like him that much. Like, what are you talking about? Look at him, isn't he great now? That's all the old ones gone around the country saying that. Oh, look, I'm happy to see him. Oh, yeah. The sport needs people like him.

You know, we need these big mainstream draws. And look at him. He was at the Grammys last night as well. And, you know, maybe a few months ago he wouldn't have been there. So, yeah, listen, the wind does a lot of things for, anyone's reputation and their stock. So, listen, it's good, it was a good week and good for

the sport of mixed martial arts. And I, that's one thing I think we're, we're happy to be saying that we're not, you know, running around fucking like headless chickens talking to everyone to all hours. But this is what people don't understand. We want him to do well. Like, we don't want to be reading this shit about him. We don't want to be reading any bad things. Like, we're just hoping. It's all in the in the cage.

Yeah. And it can, you know, this guy has no ceiling. Yeah. You know, we really didn't. And, you know what I mean? so it's all good things. But, um... Let's get away from it. Yes.

That's enough for you talking about that, Noel. I know. Quick one. Quick one. Quick one. Who does he fight next? Shotgun to the head. Come on.

Come on. I know. I know. Look, I'm not saying, that's the point. I want Mazvedal, being perfectly honest. But you guys are all telling me

that that's not hot shit. I've never liked the Masblah. I don't know anyone's... Yeah, we just don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know. I just... And he takes...

Right, so here's also the thing. From Mungarian's point of view, You get to fight a guy who's going to box with you. You're in your own wheelhouse. This guy has all the momentum from last year. He's just beating 8 days. You know, and he's the BMF. He's one of the most highest traction fighters of last year

and kind of goes in and starches him. What happens then? Yeah, well, that's great for him, but I just stay at 55, man. Oh, well, he's not doing that. He's not doing that. He's far out of 170 already. Gauchy nexters, I think, someone of the top five. I think he's going to do this season.

Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I like it. I like it too. Okay, move on. Okay. Right. There was a lot of European action over the weekend, not only in Bellator, but also in the UFC from Raleigh, North Carolina. Look, Arnold Allen is absolutely ridiculous at the moment.

Seven and O now with the UFC, nine and all run in total with all promotions. Got it done against Nick Lentz. Surprise here, Nick Lentz thinking he won the decision afterwards there because I thought Arnold was absolutely on fire. Subsequently, after the fight, after decision, Lens puts out a video of himself with a cut cornea.

I've asked Arnold about that here in the interview, and he seems quite surprised that Lens has brought that up. He said he had a few situations in the cage himself, that he wasn't all too pleasant way. He called him veteran moves.

He doesn't know why Nick is bringing this up after the fact, but unfortunately as well, he's ruled himself out of London. That was... Yeah, that was one. thing that we've we'd really wanted to see and you know if they could turn around that quickly it was always going to be tough for him he had a big fight against massive veterans even josh emma before nick lens took his space but uh looks like that's not going to happen but look absolute

pleasure to speak to arnold allen um a man who's flying at the moment um i feel like a big big fight is in his is in his crosshairs look they should rematch josh emmett as far as i'm concerned do that in july or something when both the lads are fit it's a brilliant fight but um look we had some phone difficulty with Arnold he graciously gave us his time from the airport there so we were a bit in and out so Noel McGraw had to do some master editing to make it sound beautiful

Why did you even say it to them? It's perfect you don't even notice it. Fucking idiot. But I'm doing it in case Arnold listens back and he's like what did this? You know what I mean? It's fine. But yeah so look we'll leave his with Arnold here. It's about 10 minutes or so, probably a bit less

talk to these again afterwards. And now we are joined by Arnold Allen, a man who has put together a 7-0 run with the UFC now and is joining us from the airport as he returns home after victory over Nick Lentz in Rally. First of all, how good is that feel, Arnold? Seven and O, that is a ridiculous run to put together, my friend. Yeah, it's a great feeling.

You know, it's one of the toughest divisions in the UFC, I think. So, yeah, very happy to have, I think, the longest wintership or one of the longest winterset. I don't know. Yes, it's incredible. And, you know, of course, it was meant to be Josh Emmett that you took on. In the end, it became Nick Lentz. Did you have any deliberation about that? Or was it just as soon as the name came up,

it's a guy with so much experience in the UFC, you said, I'll take that one? Yeah, you know, I was kind of like worried. I was thinking maybe we're going to get someone like unknown, sort of, you know, maybe outside of the UFC. And I think at this point in my career, there's nothing for me. So I was happy that it kind of worked out that Nick Lentz was able to,

or his opponent got injured and he was able to step in. so yeah i was happy about that he's a veteran you know he's a bit of a name he's fought the who's who of people in the division and yeah worked out good what does that do for your confidence when you have to coming true like i know i know you've already got five other wins but just gilbert melendez and him in your neck your last two fights it must must be an incredible confidence boots or for a young guy like yourself to be in with these legends basically yeah definitely it is it is a huge confidence boost so like dilbert was a big big one but uh i was maybe a little bit more confident I should have been in this one so yeah I don't think I overlooked him

but I felt a bit more confident than I usually do you know so yes I saw your post-fight interview where you discussed um you know Nick toddy done enough to win I think a lot of people agree with you and they they saw you winning that fight but um I was wondering have you seen the video that's just come out of him explaining about his eye being cut at the end of the second round um have you seen this? Do you remember the incident at all? Yeah, I did see it. Well, man, it's a fight. I accidentally poked him in the eye and I did, yeah,

it was an accident fully. But man, he was fighting so dirty anyway. Like, he was grabbing my shorts. I got scratches on my wrist where it was inside my gloves, like trying to claw my hand, like inside my gloves. I think I had double unders on the fence. He was gouging my eyes with both his fun to get me off him. And he's going to post a video bitching about it. Come on, it's a fight, man.

Do you feel like that's, that's, that's, it's, it's, it's an attempt to sour the victory on you or anything like that. Do you feel? Yeah, definitely. I've got people who send me messages like, oh, call me cheater and stuff. Like, your guy's the cheater. It's a fight at the end of the day. And at least if he's going to fight clean and then complain about an accident that happened fine. But he was, he was doing dirty veteran tricks on me.

So, whatever. You know, a lot of people in the UK, I guess, where we're hoping that you would, you'd come through this for you. be able to fight in March, but I saw your nursing a hand injury after this. I feel like that that could be, you know, with so little time between the two cards, that could kind of hinder you appearing on that March card. Is that fair to say it's probably not going to allow you a fight that week? Yeah, I'd pretty much say that's not happening. It's going to be, I reckon at least a month until I can sort of get back to throwing it around.

It's not broken or anything, but it's definitely a pretty bad spring. I'm getting an X-ray tomorrow, so hopefully it's all good. Yeah, it's going to be at least another four week, I reckon. Was that your right hand or your left? Right hand, right hand, just from the jabs. Yes, a beautiful job with the right hand as well. When did you feel it go? Yeah, it was good.

I found my range, I was getting the jabs off. Left hand was a little bit tricky. It wasn't sore because he kept switching south-off, so it was a bit tougher. But yeah, the jabs are far enough, nice. And do you remember when it hurt what round it was in that you heard it? Yeah, in the second round, when the round finished, I sort of noticed it, and then, yeah, the third round, I felt it. I also saw, you know, when you were speaking after the card, you know, you and your dad did the post-fight interview, I thought that was really cool.

But I saw your dad saying, like, how, you know, you didn't get an interview, and you do deserve a huge amount of recognition for this. Being 26 years of age, having a 7-0 room with the UFC, you were quite low, the card. I mean, does it feel like that? Do you feel like this should be recognized a bit more? And they maybe should have allowed you to speak and get your name out there a bit more? Yeah, I think so. But I suppose it's a bit of a different show as well. It's a bit low-key. Everything was rushed. There wasn't like a public way in. There's not like press conference or media day. It was a bit small, a bit quieter. It was kind of nice in a way. But yeah, I guess that's how it goes. Yeah, and I do appreciate you saying this because I know,

you're not the kind of guy that is looking for fame from this at all. Like, you just want to be considered the greatest fighter in the world, right? So I'm sure you're really uncomfortable saying this kind of stuff, you know, because you are after, but you are trying to be the greatest fire in the world. And whereas a lot of other fighters, you see them, they are just trying to bolster their profile more so than chasing the belt at times. Yeah, definitely. After every fight, all the guys in the UK always give me a huge support.

It's great. Like the fight week before or after, it's always great. But, yeah, you know, I don't do myself any favours at the same time. I don't call people out. I don't tell people when I want to come back and, like, urgently want to fight and all that stuff. Kind of a bit chilled, you know. Yeah, nothing wrong with that. It's nice for a change.

But how about your dad taking a pop saying the reason where you're not finishing, guys, is because you don't have a lot of power? Is he just saying this because he's a strong man and all your brother is as well? Is this a running joke in the family? Yeah, I think so, because my brother lifts a lot of ways. either so I can't keep up with him. But, yeah, he's just taking the fissie. You know, what about Emmett?

Like, I mean, Josh Emmett, I know he is injured, and I know you're not looking at London. It might be towards the summer that you're looking, but is that a matchup you'd like to get set up? Because I feel like Emmett has great stock in the US. I feel like a win against him, and you're pretty much undeniable as one of the top contenders in the division.

Is that still a fight that interests you in the future? I know this. Sounds like I'm asking you to call someone out, but I promise you it shouldn't. I don't mean it to be that way. Yeah, for sure. I mean, we've both done a camp for each other pretty much. So, I mean, there'd be no reason why not, you know. And a winner of a Nicklens doesn't put me in a position to be way above him.

So I don't see where I went one day. The only way for him, I guess if he's looking up the card up the division and I get it. I was speaking to Jack Mason, your coach today. And you're 26 years of age now. recently gone 26, is that correct? Yeah, Wednesday. Wow, incredible. He believes by the time you're 28, you will be a world champion.

Is this a goal you guys have talked about, or is this something that you've all just kind of geared yourself towards for a long time? Or is this the first time you're hearing this? No, we've never really spoke about it. But yeah, mentally I have planned for something like that. That is the kind of time schedule I'd like. I'd like to accomplish everything before in 30 so yeah, sounds about right. And do you, like, I mean, I'm seeing you getting so much bigger.

Every time you're in there, you look so much bigger than your opponents. Do you think, like, there will be a move to 55 in the future? Because they're still quite young, right? You're still probably growing out. Yeah, well, I don't know about that. I train with some 55ers and they're monsters, so I'll stay right, man. And, I mean, I believe you're going home now, and is this perfect for you for the,

celebrations, the birthday celebrations, to be going back home? That's it. Yeah, hopefully my mom's got a late birthday cake ready for me and all that, so get to see the dog. It's all good. Roy, well, thank you so much, I hope your hand recovers.

I hope I haven't soured the wind too much by bringing up Nick Lentz's video, have I? I feel like... Nah. Has that irritated you today? Not at all. It just, it kind of made me laugh at it because he was fine,

proper day and you know accidents happen and yeah i did it definitely did go in and whatever whatever well look you just keep doing you it's a fight at the end of the day yeah it's like what do people expect it's a fight okay okay and you keep doing you your run cannot be disputed unbelievable stuff i know we would have loved to see you in london but it's amazing to see you doing your thing at the moment and hopefully we'll have another big fight for you in the summer arnold thanks a lot man i appreciate Thank you. All the best, man. Thanks. Cheers. Bye. A busy L. Saturday night in our world with UFC going down in North Carolina and Bellator coming live to us from Englewood there at the forum.

Englewood. Yeah, so let's start with the UFC. Curtis Blades, you know, let's mention the main event. No Europeans in the main event, of course, but great win from him. Exploaded into action in the second round and got the job doing it. huge kind of, a huge bowster of his stock, I'd say, like, beating a former champion. Like, he needed, like, he needed a win like that, I feel. Kieza, obviously, against Raphael de Sanos. De Sanyos is in a bad run now.

Yeah, I, what is it, four of his last five, well to where he's lost? Yeah, it nearly like cheapens the, the, the Edwards win, you know? But he was coming off the win over Kevin Lee ahead of Leon. Yeah, he's just a little really poor, man. And Keizza looks fucking huge. He does, and it's about time. he's you know he's like that's probably five six years overdue um i know this is what a second was a second fight

about it was a second fight about it I think it was and yeah he looked really good uh half a yell is just not the fighter he was at all at all well it's the first time he looked very small I felt at the weight like I mean he not even that he looked clueless he just like there's no real fluency whether it's his hands or his

you know what's he trying to do in there he's was pretty much you know I had it every round for him case it was very, very comfortable. I'm very impressive from Kea that he's able

to do that that he's able to be so versatile against the guy like RDA because RDA A used to be so good and it's just a shadow

it's sad to see a guy go like that. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know how Kays is going to get on with getting Covington but fair play to him on the win.

Super call out like I tweeted that like what do you do man? Like do something that's realistic Covington is one like I do the same thing

about as Calby just senseless fight totally senseless do something that you're going to get that's realistic like fuck me It was stupid. Let's move on to the Europeans.

Darko Stossage, very disappointed performance I felt against Hill. Hill improves the 70s. Now, three-fights skid and not the guy we expected after his debut when he obliterated that dude in Hamburg. But look, he needs to figure something out here because he's just relying on one-shot power and it's not going to do the job, especially against a volume strike like Hill. He'll wait for the trial out one dig and then he was all over. It was a good night for the Hills. Yes, it was.

Yeah, Angela Hill, of course, as well, that victory over Hannah Seifers. Vicious. It was fucking vicious. Further down the card, Arnold Allen, of course. Really good, man. His job is unbelievable.

Yeah, like, and it's coming out of different directions all the time. Look, at the upper cutty through a few times as well, in between. Left hand's getting really good, isn't it? Jesus Christ. He's just good everywhere. He's just a fucking nightmare, man, to fight against. But big, big dude for Fed away, Jesus Christ. Yeah, he is.

He is a big dude. I think it's hilarious as dad always lags. about being weak after every fight because he's obviously he pulls out of a man. But yeah that's like I feel sorry for him to a certain extent because it looks at the USC

you're just trying to bury this guy and you know no post-fight interviews I said to you there before we went on. Is that sometimes just a thing when there's been like there was three decisions in a row at that stage in the preliminary car

could they have been just been like right we need to hurry this up? No. No like who gives a shit? Like they're not going to like if they really want to put stock on someone and get behind someone they'll definitely put a mic, you know, in their hands.

And it was just, you know, I think they might look at Arnold and go, like, oh, he's a quiet guy, he's a respectful guy. He wants to, you know, he said in the interview there. I was saying to you, I think he's very quirky, dude. Like, I actually, like, it's just, I don't think they take the time to it. They don't know that. They don't get that humor in the US as well. And, you know, I think he's a great fighter, really, really going places.

But I'm just worried that the UFC won't really give him that push that he deserves. He's going to be in an Edward situation if he is. Right, yeah. Well, he's already there. He's seven. Oh, fuck's sake, in the UFC. Yeah, so like, you know, it has to be a rise now, you know, beating the guy like the MF. Make the MFoy again.

Do it again, yeah, definitely. An all-European fight between Justine and Kish and Lucy Pudilova. Kish came away with the decision win, the Russian getting her hand raised there on the back of a two-fights kid. Lian Lansberg ran into Sarah McMahon and lost the decision. That's a tough one for Lina because she'd been looking good up until that point. You know, she had that great win over Tanya Evanger there in Stockholm when I was over there. and then she beat she beat

Macy afterwards so I mean Sarah McLan look great yeah oh she's deadly she's serious grappling man unbelievable and what about

Brett Johns though holy shit man that was a great show like did you see his post-fight interview no I didn't he said he was thinking about packing it in

it looked that way with all the Cardiff away matches on with Ollie McBurney the Shepidge's a united striker yeah yeah that was madness he was saying his brother basically to talk him back into it

you know to fighting again and you know coming off two losses and, you know, he spoke very well. Really, I really enjoyed his post-voy interview. If anyone wants to watch it, I should go to MMA fighting. Brett's a good, intelligent guy, he was, yeah, he was kind of saying, you know,

I've been called the champ my whole life. And when you go in, you lose two fights like that, and people stop saying it. We always say it. We always say it. Yeah. How do guys bounce back from losses? Not always positive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like, I mean, I always think of Siri. I feel like Siri was one of the most exciting. excruciating the honest fight as we ever had in New Orleans and he used to always say like after I win or lose as soon as I don't have a fight in front of me I get depressed because I'm like

I'd have nothing to guide my life towards People not text to me people going You know I always text him to wreck his head But I mean you know in general That fucking he just abuses me on Twitter still See that when Liverpool are playing I love on that picture yeah

Jesus Christ but no it is tough And I'm happy for my arm Because I think he's a great guy And he's a great sort of competitor that Wales need in there. He's one of the poster boys for Welsh mixed martial arts. And listen, he's a really, really good fighter. He's a guy that can really well

and honestly compete at the top of that division. Absolutely. Absolutely, man. I think even the variations he has from the back, like he went for that Suvlev stretch again against her man just to get the choke. He was puzzling gravely so much. He didn't know what the fuck to actually be defending at some one stage

and he gave up his neck. It was really, really nice. Really nice finish in the end. did you stay up and watch Beltor 238 on Sky Sports? I felt like there was a lot of Europeans watching at the time. It was a good feeling that we're all here talking about.

No, I watched it on Sunday. I couldn't because it was in work in the office at 9, so instead of 5, anyway, but like, you know, you know yourself. You start fading, yeah. But no, I watched the whole car back. Soibor, devastated, Julia Budd. Brilliant, it was like the old Cyborg.

She just went mental in the 4th round. I was like, oh, it was like the finish, I think, the fight we were at when she fought at the New Zealand. Yeah, destroyed that. Faye Van Dwynn, I think her name was

the fighter that we were at there and I think was UFC 189 when Invictor on the night before and she just 13 up, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,

kicks everything. It was just vintage cyborg, amazing finish. And listen, very happy for her. It's been a tough few months and she's, she's, you know,

solidified her status and mixed martial arts folklore and abe she's won every bloody title. Yeah. There probably is to win a mixed martial arts and all the big organizations.

The Grand Slamas they're calling it. Cracking fight. Look, I mean, I heard Sean Jean and Graham talking about this, or I saw a tweet about it, but I mean, Schneid Kavana get a few wins together and she could be right there.

Like, I mean, in terms of, there's not a lot of talent. Yeah, Shnade needs to, let's be honest, first of all. She needs to get three, four wins behind her. I'd say two would do her. You know, maybe, you know, sort out, you know, get on weight the whole time. And do that consistently. But I don't, I don't mind that, like, that matchup for Shnade. If you know what I mean?

Like, when she's boxing, she's, That's, you know, imagine watching that fight. It can be fucking crazy. Just war. Imagine Chris Seiber comes to Dublin. It's like, fucking, Jesus Christ, like two ladies just teeing off each other. But we really go boxing as well.

So, right, she needs six and four now. She's just that Olga Rubin. If she gets the Leslie Smith rematch, peace Leslie. But I think that's it. That's how you get it, isn't it? I think that's how you get it. You have to go out.

And listen, like, fucking Leslie Smith as well, like, you know what I mean? Run that back. That was a great fight. That was a craven fight to watch. I had Leslie winning. I feel like, you know, I've watched it back enough. People had, you know, Chenet.

It was close for you. People were saying as a robbery. He was rubbish. That's bullshit. But, yeah, run that fight back, man. And I think the winner of that would be great. And, you know, do it here in Dublin. Like, there's, obviously, we're going to move on and probably have a little word about it.

But Sergio Pettis as well, you know, there's been a bit of back and forth with him and James Galaher. Like, that would be a cracking fight to, obviously, James has to fight Cal Annor first. And that's a very, very tough task in its own right. But what did you think of the stop it under, Sergio, because he knocked the dude out basically. The referee was very late. It was some fucking foolish.

He was very late. He probably should have stopped it with the strikes. With the dig, yeah. Listen, but Sergio, you know, a known dude. Oh, he's clinical. Absolutely clinical.

What a performance. And he's been looking for that. And I think that's probably why the UFC sort of released him because he was just going to decisions the whole time. He's going to be a problem for everyone. For everyone.

Everyone. He's class, man. That guy was nearly talked up better in Milwaukee than his brother. He was the young little prodigate that was, oh, showtime's brother, this guy is going to be a fucking killer.

It hasn't worked out that way to a certain extent. But listen, the guys competing in the UFC against some of the best guys in the world coming into Bellator doing that. He would be super happy to finish that fight in that way as well. Knockdown and a submission. Fighters love that. We all know that. I love it too. Even though I don't like it to be that brutal sometimes.

But listen, Vinish performance and that's a fight I think we could see by the end of the year potentially. And like, I think, you know, if James beats Cal and beats him impressively, like you're sort of hard to look away from that because it's such a big fight. It really is with two such big young names in Bellator's division that, you know, do it in Madison Square Garden, do it in Dublin, do it somewhere.

That's a fight that would get people talking, definitely and really excited. Absolutely. Adam Borick's came up short against Darien Caldwell. So for the first round rear-nege of chock. And look, I said before this fight, a lot of people forget about the Pico fight before Pico got knocked out. He was

dominating Adam on the ground and Colwell's far more accomplished wrestler even than Pico so it's like I think he is anyway so I mean I feel like that was always a way it could have went he looked nervous yeah well I think that's sort of what happened you know he was hesitant at the start and sort of you know once he gets you down you're not getting back up basically yeah yeah and I think he threw a knee or something and then missed and then Colewell took him up yeah yeah yeah he's near the cage and then got him to the grounds just stormed him through a few strikes so he'd have to back up and then as soon as his back to his touch the fence you're going

down yeah and then you knew it was sort of you could sort of see the end was coming there and I think he was just like, fuck. And he looked very shook after the fight. And obviously, a guy who's, I think the country said he'd never lost in any form of combat before. And so that's a tough one to take. And you talk about Brett Johns,

that's going to be very interesting to see how he hops back from that. Young guy like this, it could be the making of him. Or the breaking of him. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But I feel like Adam, we've talked to him a good few times. He's got his head screwed on.

He doesn't seem like a guy who is going to beat himself up too much. But, of course, first loss, you're dead right. You can go either way. But just, Caldwell v. AJ. That is a great fight, isn't it? Fuck me.

If fucking AJ McKee beats him. That's like, that's a UFC main event to fight. Oh, that's serious. It's an absolutely proper fight.

Former champion v. the future underground champion basis. I do think AJ beats him. I think age is just more tools everywhere.

He's a lot bigger than fucking Darian as well. He even looked at didn't he? Like way bigger, yeah. I didn't see him based by it at all.

Yeah. Like, I think McKee's the guy. Oh, he's a true. He's unbelievable. He's the guy in Bellator. He's just, he's just brilliant like you know look at the fights we've had him

seen him the last number of months so it's just everywhere he's just so good everywhere strike him's excellent really good on the ground really good off his back good wrestler like there's not one area where there's a fault that really isn't so uh like i think it's a tough one for colwell as well no ban to my champion either at the moment so that's interesting yeah yeah very interesting um also raymond daniels you remember his highlight real k o in birmingham i believe it wasn't his last outing another good win this time we got to see a bit more him on the ground, which was nice.

Also, Aaron Pico with a sweet left-hug knockout of Daniel Carey. AJ Agassam also gets submission to win. You know, AJ Agassim, such a big name from a big team. Obviously, lost his debut, has won three since. But I hate that. Like, I mean, it does show you that. Like, what Dylan has done in the sport is pretty amazing. Like, I mean, AJ is right there in terms of jihad.

two competition. He's with the Diaz rudders. I mean, there's, like, I mean, there's so many things there you feel that would compel people to him, and there definitely is people compelled to him, but not nearly on the level of Dylan Dennis, right? No, should Dylan's hanging out with McGregor? I know, but, like, it's not like that's all you got to do. There was loads of guys I've never

seen before in that camp, it's not like they're famous now. Dylan's definitely used his platform. Oh, 100%. And he's done it very well. He's been very provocative on social media. Look, some of the stuff he puts up. So, that's going to get you, you know, likes but listen this game's all about building

and we talked about you know Arnold how can you not say this Arnold Allen earlier on and you know UFC

Scott Coker you know Martin Lewand Davsky whoever the head guy is they want guys like this they want guys who are fucking brash they want guys who

go out and put their fucking dick out and social media that sort of stuff they love all this shit man they don't or a lot they do so that's where I'd sort of worry

for these guys if they love it until they have to say it's decent, genuine sometimes, but sometimes you see, you know, we saw it with Calby Coventon over the years like, you know what I mean? It's sort of make a decision, but I can understand the way guys want to keep this genuine line as well, but sometimes it doesn't always work. Curtis Milander got off

through a good start with Bellator, good debut on a catch-way bout, got a decision win. Anthony Taylor against Chris and Villal. Pretty boy, man, he's on a foy-fight winstreet. Listen, I like that guy. I'll give him a little respect. He's always respectful when you see him here in Dublin when he was fighting with Bambon.

man when he was fighting with he always has a few things to say when you turn the camera on he does he does definitely yeah all the cameras on but listen what a great story what a great story obviously well documented depression problems and felt suicidal I think at one point you know really really good story on a

you know negative record comes back in wins I think a regional promotional title asked for Bellator gets on Bellator goes on in fairness Chris Avila obviously from Diaz's team as well and you fought Artaam before in the UFC and getting a win there man fair play to him i've like hats off that is what martial arts is all about like yeah it really is and it's a really good story and nothing but best wishes to that young lad annie taylor was fair play he's battled back deserves everything he gets absolutely um now

we'll have an interview with dricus duplessis uh the double champ for ericas the double champ from eFC also former uh ks w champion the last person to beat one of our faves on the show robert I was Saldic. Like, Drickus has pretty much done everything now. Like, I mean, in terms of he's gone back to South Africa, he's won the middle-way title, welder-way title. He's fought like basically an untouchable prospect of the way. What did you ask him?

What did I ask him? Put team to you together, mate. Scott asked him. Hey. Yeah, he did say he's into that. And I love that fight. Like, that's a great fight for Scott. Brilliant fight for KSW.

But you can feel like he's nearly at that stage where he's like, when the fuck? look, am I going to get this call? And he deserves it. Look, he definitely deserves it. He's with Danny Rube now as well, which is a great, a great guy to have to do it. So, yeah, I feel like, great to check in with him again.

Like, don't forget as well, this fella bet Jolton Santos, who's on a tear now. When he... F.C. No, he bet him in KSW after the salvage fight when he moved up to 185. You know, that's his last loss.

He's gone on to beat Alex Lahore, and he had a win in the EFC recently as well, but yeah I think it's probably time he's there or thereabouts I'd say if you can get a big win I mean a win over asking would nearly guarantee him

I'd say at this stage but look we'll have to wait and see how it goes but great to speak to Drickus we'll be back in about 10 minutes now I didn't expect to meet a double champion from South Africa and a former

KSW champion while I was in Las Vegas but lo and behold here is Drekas 2Pes and you know he's a man who ever everyone believes should be in that UFC middleweight ranks. He's gone back home.

He's reclaimed that middleweight title with EFC. We already know how he was good he was in his KSW run at Welterweight. But first of all, Las Vegas, what has you here? Yeah, I mean, it's awesome to be here. It's my first trip down to Vegas. I actually just came to watch the fights because I'm in Florida training. And the fights, the Connor and Cowboy fight just had me. And I knew, like, it was just an easy flight.

So I was like, I'm going to definitely do it. I just spent a few days here training and enjoying the fights. It was awesome. What did you think of that, the big show there? There's a kind of wets your appetite. Like, I mean, are you looking at that going, geez, I can't wait to be a part of something this big on this scale? Absolutely.

I mean, I'm just looking at it and thinking, man, I can't wait to be on bullboards that size, to sell out big cars like that. And it's a matter of time, and I kind of wait to do it. It just looks incredible. The last time some of the European fans might have seen, you might have been the fight with Solich in October. October 2018, but I can remember you heard after that. And of course, you haven't fought at Walterweight since then, but I mean, you're a huge guy, you're sitting here beside me. It's

quite obvious, I mean, that getting down to Welterweight would not be the easiest thing in the world for you. Was that camp particularly bad where, like, I have to stop doing this to myself? So, no, I've never, like, I've never missed weight at Walter Wade, but, I mean, the cut was, like, it's always been a big cut, but, like, it seemed like, as I got older, I got bigger and stronger like the catches became more and more difficult and to a stage where everything didn't like it didn't make a lot of sense for me to make that big cut anymore after that fight I mean it was just I was I actually signed a Walterweight fight directly after that with boris Mankowski and my doctors just let me know listen blood test says you you're taking years

away from your career with with this big cut and I mean now at 185 I feel awesome I feel great at middleweight and I actually have more fights at middleweight than the Walterweight And I already had the belt at middleweight then. And then I was like, cool. I can fight middleweight. And now I've fought in case W twice again now. And, you know, at middleweight. And it's looking great.

I had a great fight in London, in Wembley Stadium. That was October this year. And Santos has done so well since then as well. I mean, he's done really, really well. I think he was on a 15-fight win streak when I faced him. He was on a 15-5 streak. So that was a big opponent for me. And I got the finish in the second round.

It was awesome for me and I felt super great at 185. And then I had this fight in December at 185 back at EFC for the first time in over two years. And man, it felt great to fight back home. And well, now it's on for bigger things and just keep on doing what I'm doing. And, you know, this year will be my year. I can't wait. Yeah, I was going to say that. How did it feel to come back?

Was it a big kind of hero's welcome to go back to EFC after that time with the different promotions? Yeah, absolutely. Especially. That was the first time I fought in my hometown inside. Africa so it was a it was a big fight for me as a as a personal achievement and you know I started my career in the EFC from the first day so to be back there and going finding in front of my home crowd finding around my home country after being away for so long it was a crazy welcoming and it was probably one of the craziest crowds I've ever fought not the most people because the arena just

wasn't that big but I mean the crowd just went crazy and it's it's you know that feeling of fighting at home in front of your people it's absolutely awesome A lot of people say to me, like, you're the next level South African fighter. Like, we have seen South African fighters in the UFC, but it's going to be very, very different when you go into these ranks. I mean, does it feel like you will be the guy that pushes the envelope further than ever has been within the UFC for South Africa? Yeah, I mean, like you said, we had a few guys, and that was older generation, if you will, guys that came to USC. Didn't do that great, but still, I mean, they paved the way for us. And now we have John Madge.

He's also in the USC and he's doing well. Yeah, he's doing great. He's doing great things. And I'm a young guy. That's a big advantage for me. I'm only 25 years old. So for me, this is like I am the next genie in fighting. You know, I haven't been doing like, like then that's what they say, the next generation.

And I truly believe that I'll bring something new. I'll bring something that the people haven't seen before. And, you know, do exactly that. You know, put South Africa, really put them on a map and really, you know, being the first one to get a ballot for South Africa and the UFC. I would be remiss if I didn't ask because there's so many KSW fans and every time they're talking about who's going to fight for the title next. Scott Ascom has put together a great run there and of course everyone is saying

Drickis has got to fight him next. You know what I mean? Everyone thought that was going to be the case. Are you no longer with KSW? Is that something that is a possibility ever or is it just crosshairs for the UFC? Is it a UFC at the moment? No, absolutely. I'm still with KSW.

like my contract's not exclusive so I mean I want to fight with KSW either March but preferably April that would be great to fight back in Rutslav where I first won the belt back in KSW I mean if something doesn't come up but you know the fight with Scott that's a that's a massive

fight for me and that's a fight I would love to take and you know I know he's saying a lot of things because I wasn't fighting at 185 but you know if they want to give me another fight before I fight him I'm cool with that I can fight like at this way I can fight back to back it doesn't bother me So, I mean, it's a matter of time.

Like I said, if he doesn't want to take the fight right now, I'll fight another guy until they can't deny me that shot. So if that fight comes, that's a fight I want. And if it doesn't, I mean, if I have to fight another guy to become a number one contender, that's good with me as well. It's kind of crazy that they haven't got you, though, already. Like, two weight division champion in the EFC, a champion with KSW, and like, you know, knocking on the door,

fighting for another title in another division with KSW, It was a kind of, and you're only 25, and you're in middleweight, they don't have that many people at middleweight. Like, surely you almost be going, what do I have to do here? Like, is it like one of those things? Is there anything in your mind? Like, if I get this next thing, it's undeniable? Are you already undeniable as far as you're concerned? Man, to be honest, like, for me, I just know, if I just keep on doing what I'm doing and I have to write people to help me.

Like, you know, I do have to write people that's helping me to get where I need to be. For me as a fighter, I just need to keep on winning, keep on, you know, keep my name out there in the international ranks. You know, keep people talking, keep people wanting until it becomes an uneniable force. And that's what I believe. So I don't think there's one thing I have to do. I just think it's a matter of, you know, situation, stars are lining perfectly, and the big opportunity will come. And for me, I'm enjoying the whole journey of, you know, making it to the big stage.

And just keep on, like, I don't have one final destination that I'm after. I just want to be fight the best guys in the world and keep on proving myself. So for me, it's like, it's not like I'm feeling what do I have to do. I just know it's going to happen at some stage. It's going to be undeniable. And I just can't wait. I mean, but I'm enjoying what I'm doing right now, fighting some of the best fighters in the world,

finding some badass guys outside of the UFC. It's awesome. Does it feel badass kind of making your way across the Europe? I'm finding those guys, it's a big trip, right? Like, I feel you're coming from a different continent. I feel like, do you feel like a lot of pressure to represent like when you come over here? Because I can remember when he came in first and you, your flatline solace that time i was like oh my god you know what i mean it must feel incredible

do you like that kind of a gunslinger attitude coming in from different terrain and taking out the european top guys yeah i mean for me that was i was i pretty much when i was a double division champion in africa and uh i mean i fought janik bahadhi who was from uh he was the bama champion i won the belt from him and uh i mean so there was some european people that already knew who i was and i fought rafal hard take from poland as well before signing with KSW and EFC. So when I went to Poland, there was a few people that knew what was going on, and then everybody was like, why is this guy getting a title shot immediately?

And, I mean, I knew just, like, this is a big opportunity. That was the biggest opportunity. I was the first South African to go fight for a belt in a major promotion outside of South Africa. So there was a lot of pressure, but I feel those present situations just bring out the best of me. And, you know, knowing a whole country, basically you're representing a whole country, everybody's reading for you. I mean, it's absolutely awesome. It just brings out complete base to me. And when I got that win and, you know, put South Africa on the map in Europe as a, as, listen, these guys, they have some badass guys over there. And we do have a lot of badass fighters back home.

It's absolutely awesome. And I mean, to just be conquering the world, that's what I'm after. Just like one continent at a time, I guess. Is there any kind of like when you're looking at the UFC roster and you're like, that would be an ideal for a for me. Like, you know, if I could pick my debut opponent, it would be that guy. Is there anyone out there like that that you think about? No, not really. I look at the whole division and obviously when I'm

comparing myself, I'm looking at the top five guys all the time. I'm not comparing myself with the newcomers or guys and even though that's probably where I'll start. I'm having my sights on the top five guys. That's the guys I'm looking at. That's the guys I want to compare myself to. So, I mean,

for me, a perfect debut would be somebody getting injured and I'm a top 10 top 5 guy on my debut that would be a perfect debut for me and I mean if it doesn't happen that way to climb that ranks I'm looking forward to that as well so whichever direction it goes I'm ready for it so you're you're basically saying I'll get thrown to the wolves or if that's what like if that if that's the way it is if this the way the option comes up I'm happy to get thrown for the wolves yeah absolutely I mean if they can let me know on a two weeks notice listen we have a top five guy that pulled out we need you to I'll make that way

and I'll make sure to make the fly over here and and you know step up to the step up to the And that's one thing I know. I have the BMT to do that. Like when the pressure is on, I can perform. So, I mean, that's how I have my side set on. Somebody pulling out maybe, fighting a big name, my first fight, that's an ideal situation for me. It's amazing. I mean, will we say for the end of the year, do you believe it will be, you'll be a UFC for it? Are you that confident? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, like I said, right now, where I'm at, I'm loving it, but I'm 100% sure that. that I'll be a big name in the world and on the biggest stage in the world before the end of 2020, most evidently.

Thank you so much, Trickers. This was a great, great to talk to you, man. Well, wasn't it good to be back playing the hits? Once again, back with the band. Fuckers, I was getting a bit of abuse. Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I'm trying to increase the piece here. What's this crystal shit you fuckers talk? I really don't get it.

All right, man, I don't want you disrespecting crystals, first of all. Fuck your crystals. Like, I mean... Crystal fucking Matt. Like, You're insulting my beliefs now, my belief structure and system. I don't do that to you, and I mean, I don't come after your religion. Rugby, okay?

It's certainly not rugby. But, I mean, I just thought it was a bit too harsh. Phil O'Connor made a sly joy about Fat Burger. But Jose Young's and you got into it a few times over the weekend. Look at the state of that guy. Look at the state of that guy. He's like, you know, he's like, you say he's like one of those toilet cleaners. You put your, you dip down the jacks.

I will. Like, he's one of those young lads you'd see in skill that I probably would have bogwashed back in the day. What's bog washing him? Bogwashed. You get their head. You put it in the toilet, flush it. Or, you know, occasionally do a gopher in their head as well. I'm joking.

I'm joking. I'm joking. I never did a good friend. The bleach from the toilet may have dyed his hair. Is that what we're saying? Well, that could possibly be the case from him, hip in his head down at Jax, yeah. Jesus Christ, I didn't think of that.

Yeah. And, you know, I was actually going to actually put something up there day. And I thought, no, I better not, like, because I don't offend the people of Arizona. but you remember that song from the Kings Leon, Arizona. No. Horhouse, Arizona. No. It's the say.

The lyrics are good, basically, and they'll be insulting to Jose, but... Jose's from Rhode Island, though. Oh, is he? Is that why he sounds like an American or New Yorking? I don't know, but he moved there, so I'm just... Just so you know, like, I mean, he obviously wasn't hard enough to stay in New York. That's the way I saw it. Yeah, he's a fucking mouthpiece is.

You know what I like to do? I don't like mouthpiece. I'm the only one that'd be a fucking mouthpiece around here, right? There be two hits. you hitting him and hitting the floor As for Phil Disappointed Phil Phil

Is a big lover of yours And to hear such Venom Venom really Yeah what have I done to any of these fuckers Come on to the attack I mean I've seen you abused Phil a few times I have to say

But I mean he usually doesn't fire back In such fierce ceremony I think I think Can we try and make Bill the bridge Between your old bash and the A-side Nah fuck the A-side

The A-side the fucking A side The fucking minus E side It should be called What the fuck like I'm gonna get you some Poirate The A side What's the A stand for asshole

Like fucking I'm gonna get you some Poirite I'm gonna get you some Poirite I'm gonna get you some Tiger's Eye Just to help you Just so you can feel it Oh listen I've never gone out in air He's on air

Fucking baiting me like Who the fuck is this guy Does it is it only gonna be settled in a fist fight Yeah Well look I'm sorry Jose I try I would bury that guy. You've talked yourself into...

I'd snap that pencil neck. He brought it on himself. That's all I'm going to say. He's a turkey. Look, I love Jose. You know what I had for dinner last night? Turkey. And I gave it a good hell stuff

and that fucking batter you. All right. There you go. I'm going to have to pass on this message on... Oh, no, he'll hear it. Yeah, you hear it. Here it, bitch. Do you think he's a big fan of yours?

Obviously. Looks up to you a lot, I'd say. Obviously, yeah. Well, look, look, I think that's look, we've given Jose his time to speak about his fellow Irish man, Noel McGrath. Irish. And, you know, I don't like to see us falling out like this. I didn't start it.

You didn't start it? I didn't start it. Jose Young's has a sharp tongue. No, he's a mouthpiece. There's a difference. He says nothing that's actually sensible. Jesus. So, and he couldn't understand me either.

Excuse me. How can you not understand these dulcet fucking tones? Get with it. The signature dulcet tones are. Yeah, like, poo. wow it's just a bit too hit too

close to home there that hole is getting fucking deeper keep digging it some bring it fucking that's I need to move on

I want to move on I move on well look it's been lovely to be back with you and this is the kind of I feel the energy yeah I can feel it

I can feel it don't need crystals for energy on Eurobatch I want to kick someone now I want to kick the TV get out of here yeah

well I guess that's all obviously we should mention yeah it's not going to be until what Bellator now, Bellator will be back. The next time Belator is in Dublin, right?

That weekend, you just said. 20 seconds of February. And the next time we have UFC is John Jones. Next week. That's not next week, the weekend after. Yeah. February 8th. So, yeah, so we're going to have to fill up next week with a load of choice.

So, um... I think we've a few avenues we can go down. Do multiple interviews, maybe. Yeah. And we could do a few more. We want to mention to you earlier on, maybe. So, oh, there you go. Oh, my little bit of it.

I like that one, yeah. Yes, that one could be good. yeah, listen, I'm sure we'll have something to talk, something will fucking happen anyway. It's MMA, like, you know what I mean? McGregor will have a fight in soon, that's what I reckon. Yeah, he might retire or anything. Who knows? It's going to be the headlines anyway.

That is true. But now, listen, before we wrap it up, I think, you know, if he's going to stick to this plan, something's going to be announced in imminent. Oh, that's what I said. I had a few people reaching out to me recently. I was like, he could fight in April. Like, he could fight in April or May. But I think the attraction of having a July International Fight Week might be too much to turn down for the UFC.

Do you know what I mean? Just for like a big card Like he was bigger Like you know what he put him against Anyone is the biggest fight They can put on basically Yeah everyone's home by the Raider Stadium now as well And doesn't look fucking ready for

Yeah No I won't be till September or something like that I think it's launching in July or something Still be roasting in Vegas in September Yeah well But they need to have it sort of half hot like Yeah Yeah

Yeah It'd be interesting to see what happens But yeah let's get the fuck out of here Yeah I need to go and get some TVs Fix tomorrow Oh Broke TVs

Oh my God I gave a, you see this big, big huge TV, gave it, they come back with my man, Dan now we were saving for the mortgage, I gave them the big TV, took another TV I'd bought previously that they were using, and put up in my room. So they need that one back. Three TVs I own, and I end up without one,

but these are the brakes, my friend. Fuck that. And my car, someone fucking messed with my new car, man, and smacked up the back of it. It's going to cost me like a grand to get a fish. She saw the close call today with my new drona but. Jesus Christ, like I was getting too... I saw the first one you did was dead,

you landed right in front of you. Yeah. I bought a DJ Mavik Mini and I bought it was hung over actually fucking regretting it now sort of half

well I would have today if I had it and I got a the house is pretty high and I smacked it into the fucking I was going over the roof trying to get some shots just for the crack

and I was put it up by the chimney and I'm going to put it clipped it with the wind and I was out fuck and the thing you can see it obviously on your phone

the screen no way so I'd get the ladder out man it's not fucking tall like and thankfully and it doesn't seem to be fucked.

You must have locked our your athleticism yet anyway if you manage to scale. And I still have it. Listen, the belly is deception. It's deception. I was called the cat

back in the day. I still call you the cat. And they used to call me Scalachi as well. Remember Salvatore Scalachi in Italian 90? The man who ruined Irish dreams. Yeah, that guy. And yeah, I was known as a,

I was a very athletic young man. I'm going to lose his belly. I am. I'm actually going to I'm set up for the last week. I'm on a diet. I'm going to start watching what I eat. Not a diet.

I don't believe in diets, but just lifestyle change. And I'm going to do it because I'm getting really fucking, my hips are getting sore and shit. I lost a stone in... It's this game. It's so fucking tough, man. Two weeks before that card.

Yeah. You can go on the Pizzi crash diet and we'll get fucking weight off. I'll do it, with you. I know, I can get weight off. I know how to get weight off. It's just fucking being disciplined. Boy, can eat, you know, will he be eating three, four meals a day and still getting weight off.

Yeah, no, that's what I do, yeah. Yeah, I see, I think a good thing for me is getting up and having a massive breakfast. I was going to say massive shout myself Well a shite as well after me coffee You'll get it all like clear out the else slurry pit With a bit of prune juice and coffee Your grand

Well we start scaling then every week Because that'll put pressure on you to actually do it Yeah no I will That's good idea So really good idea Okay we'll start that from next week We'll do the way in next week And we'll book it down

I need to get at least fucking two time All way in with you then right And we'll set ourselves goals Yeah definitely 100% That's a great idea Right we love his loads Be back next week for a skinny Eurobash Where we discuss

our weight loss. Then next week we'll back there, my mate. Fuck you, Jose Youngs. Oh, wow. Fuck, Scalachi.