MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 70 (w/ James Gallagher, Molly McCann, Rhys McKee)

Episode Date: February 18, 2020

On this week's Eurobash, James Gallagher discusses the injury that forced him from his Bellator Dublin main event fight against Cal Ellenor. Also featured, fan favorite Molly McCann gives insight on her UFC London camp and her wishes to honor her Irish heritage at UFC Dublin in August. Highly tipped to become the next Irish fighter signed to the UFC, Rhys McKee talks about the hype he has generated ahead of his Cage Warriors title shot in Belfast on May 16.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome back once again. It's episode 70 of Eurobash. It is Peter Carroll and Noel McGraw. Word. What's happening in Playboy? How are you? Good, man, you? Not too bad. Lovely weather out there again today. Bit of stormed Noel, I think, is next weekend.

Storm leader the week after. I mean, when are they going to realize that there aren't any storms and this is just the way Ireland is? It's always raining and always terrible. Yeah, I couldn't. Stormophilia last year, right? The storm last weekend or last night whenever it was, was worse. And that was supposed to be the worst thing ever.

Like, that was like a bit of rain and winds. Because Ophelia had snow, it was like, oh, this is the worst thing ever, right? Man, I don't know what these weathermen are doing. They're stealing a wage, robbing a wage there. Like, Elaine's really hoping that the next one, because the first one was what? Hurricane, what was the, I mean, which was the storm? Ophelia was the bad one? But no, but what was the, this one?

Was the storm Kira and then Starr, Dennis? So she's hoping to eat, Elaine. Don't think she's going to get it. I think it's already predetermined anyway. It is, yeah, I think they're, like, to me, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, you're going to trend or something, isn't it's weird? I don't know. Fuck it anyway. Fuck the weather. Well, it's a big weekend for Bellator, MMA with the Dublin card this weekend, with Liam McCourt and Judith Ruiz in the main event. A lot of UK and Irish action

to unfold at the three arena. Obviously, we had some huge news last week, so let's hit it off with these headlines. UFC Dublin is going down on August 15th. We'll talk about that. In a few moments, Alexi Olenik v. Fabrizio Verdeum will go down in Sao Paulo on May 9th or so. The reports are suggesting. Grigori Popoff and SBG's Brad Katona have been cut from the UFC. Gergaard Musassi v. Douglas Lima will go down for the middleweight title on May 9th. Natoyos Frederick v. Andreas Michelides will headline Cage Warriors 11th on Saturday, April 18th in Birmingham. A big one for Natoyas there.

John McCaulde v. Raphael McKedo has been booked for Cage Warriors London. Paul Hughes for Yuri Panada has been Bufrakech where he's in Manchester. And of course, the great Rug Rug Rug Returns at Ares FC2 on April toward against Ivan Romanoff and the European MMA community in absolute flames with that announcement. We all can't wait for Rugrug to get over onto our continental soil. But obviously there's a big talking point there, Noel, UFC Dublin. Incredible. Going down on August 15th, it caught me unawares. Did you have any whispers about that? Well, I think there was sort of rumlings, but nothing, nothing you could, you could bank on and all.

But, yeah, it's no surprise this year has been the year that the UFC are, you know, coming back to Dublin. What is the first time? Five years, I believe it is. I think it is five. Yeah, 2015, that's right, yeah, 2020. Jesus, I can't even add. Never numbers are my strong. But, yeah, it's great, man. It's given everyone sort of a buzz.

And I think the strategical announcement was pretty, you know, clever from the UFC. as well with Bellator's car coming up this week. I was out on Saturday night and after work late and 10, 12 of the lads that were out. It was a birthday party and that was the first thing they were talking about was UFC's coming back to Dublin. So

it was huge news over here and it's great man, you know, it's great to have more shows on the scene, not just Bellator MMA for professional stuff. So it's just good things for everyone involved in the sport and the buzz is back. You know, I was going to ask you about that. You mentioned there about Belator.

Obviously, Bellator, I've had the Lions share in America here for a long time. They're selling out shows. Every time they really put one on out here, of course, they have about 47 people signed to Bellator from Ireland at the moment. But does this affect their market share having the UFC come back? Or does it depend on what the UFC do with this card? Yeah, it's an interesting one. It is an interesting one. I think, you know, Bellator, you know, I've sort of criticized what they've done in terms of their marketing.

As you said, it's been very much, I think a lot of the tickets. sales that we've talked about in quite a lot of debtor, you know, based on the clubs and how many, you know, people from the clubs are buying the tickets and, you know, fans, you know, family, all that sort of stuff. The UFC are the promotion that's put the imprint in here in the market for the interest of MMA. So I look at that probably is a good thing for Bellator because they haven't really done themselves any favours with the TV deals either. It's been a bit messy and people are getting fed up. Even with the, you know, the broadcast announcement we've seen. again for this week's card.

It's very, very messy. It's all over the shop. So you think it's a good thing for Bellator? Yeah, it probably is because... For UFC coming back. Yeah, yeah, it probably is because it's keeping more eyes on the sports because Bellator haven't really done a great,

good job with getting their cards into the mainstream here and the mainstream media. The UFC instantly has that attention. So it's bringing light to the actual sport of mixed martial arts. So more people, you know, there's always a knock-on effect we see. And I think, you know, it's hardly down. damaging that the UFC is back. Right, right.

I mean, do you feel as though, look, we have two people from Ireland on the UFC's books at the moment. As soon as this announcement comes out, I see so many people talking about people like Molly McCann, get her over to the fight. We're going to hear from her later on. Reese McKee being the frontrunner for Irish people outside, Irish voters outside of the UFC at the moment. Do you believe that we will see a new Irish signing for this card?

And do you see Reese, who will hear from later on, as the front runner at the moment? Yeah, 100%. I think we've talked about that, obviously, a lot. Yeah, Reese is the guy, you know, he goes out there and makes a statement, wins that Cage Warriors World title. That title puts you in the position straight away. Once you have it, people are talking about you being in the UFC. So obviously, Reese, you know, they're going to want to have a couple of local guys on the card.

You know, I know Joseph wants to get on the card as far as I'm where, yeah, from talking to him. You know, I was chatting to Paul last week, Paul Felder, who was your headlined this weekend. He's interested in getting on it. but you have to have that core base of fighters from the region. I think Reese is the frontrunner. You know, Ian Garry probably a little bit too early for me.

There's a lot of talk about him online. Joe McCalligan, I think,'s in the running. He wants to fight twice. And he even wanted to fight twice. I know you broke the story in the next couple of months. He wants to fight out. He's obviously fighting on that London card. He wants to turn around and go to Belfast.

If he puts together too impressive wins, you know, he's another guy that they could be talking about because I think Joe is probably, maybe time's not on his side, but he's a guy, I'm sure, with two big, big wins that they'll be having a look at him, definitely. But yeah, I think Reese,

if he makes that statement and gets that win, he's pretty much a shoe in and if it is a statement, I think. Yeah, I mean, I feel like people do get carried away. Like, Jesus, like, they do, yeah.

People think we're going to assign 18 people before this car. It's not going to happen. I'd say one or two would be exceptional. Max. What about Carl Pentre with the show, with the Chris Fields show? Like, I mean, I know Chris is thinking about

wrapping up soon. If he got back to win and obviously he still has that lost to Prado he's coming off on. But a guy like that, if you could pitch him in a retirement bout in Dublin, like it's a one-fight contract, like that might be something that will stimulate the masses, so to speak. It's a good story, right, to have going in. I wouldn't say he's top of the pecking order, as we're saying with Reese, but that would be one that would go down well with the fans of the same. And let's be honest, most of the Irish fighters are signed to Bellator. So it is

it's not the pool that they used to be able to select from say when they're coming here five years ago, as you mentioned. Yeah, no, listen, who wouldn't like to see Chris? He's a, you know, a big fan base, a big following. And he's a big long man. He is a big long man. What is he, the El Storko, Blanco, who used to call him back in the day. But yeah,

listen, that'll be great, you know, swan song for Chris. If he's, as you said, they're thinking about maybe calling it a day pretty soon, that'd be amazing for Chris to get on that card. Obviously, he wasn't part of the last invasion of Irish fighters that came along. So how fitting would that be for a guy who's, you know, given his life to mixed martial arts in this country to be absolutely phenomenal?

And he's going to have the seal of approval from the likes of Paddy, Cahill, all these guys who did it before, which will kind of push him over. It'd be some story for Irish mixed martial arts and Chris. We were talking about Bellator, right? Like it was in the impact on here. But one thing that seems absolutely obvious to me is because of Cage Warriors linked to UFC. Those shows have become so much more important. Like Paul Hughes, Joe McCulligan, all these guys, Ian Gary, all these dudes who are fighting on Cage Warriors at the moment, we know that

path exists. So it's made everything way more exaggerated on those cards. The stakes seem so much higher for all these guys. I was talking about, you know, the impact the UFC hasn't come back. But I think it's very different the impact they're going to have on Bellator and Cage Warriors. Yeah, no, yeah. Because Cage Warriors is going to be the next generation. And that's what they've been advertising for two years. This is the next generation of Ours UFC for us. Graeme Boylan was across with Dana White there a couple of months ago. It seems pretty obvious to me what they're talking about at this stage. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And, you know, that as we talked about a few minutes ago, like, um, in terms of the UFC coming back and Bellator and

Cage Warriors, in terms of that is the path, that is the chosen way to get to the UFC. I think we just have to accept. And, you know, you accept it. You know, you accept it. We all know who the fucking big show is. Like the UFC aren't going anywhere. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's pretty planted obvious in our face. Out on their own. Yeah, out and their own. Bellator, you know, they just have to accept that at this point. They're never going to be the UFC.

Well, they might be, but it's not, certainly not within the next till August. Yeah, 100%. But the, I just feel like everybody's hungry for more Irish people in the UFC. You know, that's something that we haven't seen for so long. And the idea that we'll be watching these guys in Belfast. And one of them might be on the card in August, that just seems to, to, be a really unique selling point that they have massively. Massively. And I hope they go

along with that. You know, and you know, Cage Warriors obviously traditionally do that. They've made no bones about it. They're feeding ground for the UFC. I just hope they imply this and with this fight coming up with the huge card that's going to be on in Dublin in August. Obviously that's going to be a Belfast, Reeses' fight.

Hopefully Joe will get a turnaround if you get to a good win. It could be a really exciting night. Like it could be one of those nights where you're going, fuck, there is a lot. This could be literally the biggest Cage Warriors card in a long time from an Irish point of view. Oh yeah. Like,

even the one where we're down in Cork. It's like a semi-final, a cup final. Yeah, yeah. But the one where we were down in Cork was crazy in such a small place to see so much energy. So I do think this is going to be great. But let's just put one thing to bed. It's incredibly doubtful that Conno McGregor is fighting.

Oh, he's headlining against Diego Sanchez. Like, what the fuck else am I going to hear in here this week? Listen, man, the one thing I want to say is, and I taught back to obviously Jessica Penny and Gianni and Jaycheck when it in terms of a headline, you're talking about that. Why not Valentina Shevchenko? Oh, yeah, I'd love that.

Her and Jojo would be incredible. But that's what they might do in terms of an ESPN Plus card because she hasn't really had a huge amount of contenders pop up and throw their hands in the air for a title shot next. And I think that could be a way forward to boost their ESPN Plus sales if they want to do something like that. Why not? It would be great.

It would be great. We had course only heard from Valentina last weekend. McGregor's not fighting, yeah. Well, let's get on to the first interview of the day. the man who was supposed to headline this weekend's Belator Dublin car James Galaher, who unfortunately had to pull out of the fight due to a back injury. James, of course, one of the front runners in the international sport at the moment, one of the biggest names under the Bellator banner.

He gave us his thoughts on his injury when he's likely to back. Leah getting the main event spot, and he also talks about how he feels as though his fight with Carl Eleanor has become personal now. He definitely wants that fight. the whispers I'm hearing and they might be doing it for the main event of the upcoming Belator London card but great to hear from James

as always, always a pleasure to hear from him and given some insight on things he'd really only know about as the leading man of Belator in Europe. So always a pleasure to speak to James. It's an awful pity we won't see him this weekend but we'll be back in about 20 minutes.

And now I am joined by the man everybody was eager to see in the Belator Dublin main event against Carl Eleanor. It's a great James Galaher who unfortunately had to withdraw from the

fight, was forced from the fight basically due to an injury. James, commiserations, my friend, I'd imagine it was an incredibly difficult decision for you to make knowing you as I do. I'd say it had to be a situation

where you basically couldn't even move to make you pull out of this fight. Yeah, I was, I'm heartbroken about it piece, so I'm absolutely good. It's one of them, you know what I mean? it's like one of them things and I still tried to keep going with it. And I just, I was on over, I think it was about three weeks altogether.

I was trying, there were kind of, was that kind of time to make a call now and what am I doing? Do you know what I mean? So I was trying to stick to my diet while being on all these different forms of medication. Like painkillers, all these heavy painkillers. So my mind and all wasn't with it. And then my appetite was obviously very enhanced by all the tablets and medication. that I was on and since I was just laying around my gaff I had the couldn't really eat that much and because my body wasn't exercise and then stuff so I was in a it was a rough few weeks so it was just

not able to lift a bag do you know what I mean I couldn't even lift me I couldn't even lift me I couldn't lift me gym bag out of my car never mind fucking go to the gym you know what I mean so it was a was a rough couple of weeks and I was absolutely heartbroken they pull out but when I was told then I just changed my mindset and I was like all right I'm like no it's time to get my back back there relax on it get focused on the rehab and that's my goal do you know what I mean my goal wasn't they fight wasn't they fight then my goal was to get my back better once I got medically unclean the medics and all said to me and stuff like not not to fight and my coaches so then was I've been able to change my mindset just focus on rather than focused on trying to fight I just focused on getting my back better

and it was a it was a lot easier on the mind then once once that that call was made but it was definitely a rough three weeks sitting on the sofa waiting Trying to keep motivated and train and not train obviously because I wasn't actually fucking training, but no, keep that mentality that I'm fighting in a few weeks and feel good about myself and feel good and feeling shape and feel ready when I can't lift my fucking, no, I couldn't lift me a shoe off the floor. Jesus Christ. It seems like, I mean, I'd say that was a tough day for you when it was announced because you have become the story of these cards. People are coming to see James Galaer in the main event. And it's really bolstered the whole status of the European series, I feel. And Dublin is definitely the flagship show with you at the top of it, as usual.

I mean, was that a difficult day when the news finally broke that you wouldn't be on the card? Oh, mate, it was absolutely heartbreaking. So it was, but it was kind of like, when it got announced, I was back walking. Do you know what I mean? I was back outside and, like, back out floating around and stuff like that. So it wasn't, I was able to just take myself away for the day. and keep focus, you know what I mean? Because then how it became,

I started getting better very quick once I rested up. And so I was able to go from not not been able to do anything, like put on me socks to fucking been able to get up and walk. Do you know what I mean? Over night, so by the time it came around,

I was two weeks stuck and then that week that it got announced, I was in the hospital getting scans. And then when it got announced in, it was the day beforehand I made the call obviously so I kind of knew it was all coming out and

so I just had to take myself away and and fucking pit my head somewhere else for a few days you know what I mean and that's just how I did it and I just got the criticism that I got online. Wow yeah I was going to ask you about that. It's absolutely madness and you know what Peecy

if these people knew half of what I got paid they'd be going I would still jump in him if I fuck him, no what I mean? That's how much I'm injured. If they knew how much I was getting paid, I would fucking be walking there where I broke him. If I had a broken back, I would still jump in there.

It's fucking, you know what I mean? I mean, I often say this to you. They find different ways to pick you apart every time, but the fact that they're trying to portray you as a guy who's pulling out of fights left right in center is ridiculous, you know? Yeah. They're trying to pick me apart piecey, but they can't. They can't.

So it is, I've got me, I'm not in this game to be like, do you know what I mean? They all can hate all they want. But let's face it, I'm doing good. Now, and I didn't realize, see you getting injured there, I'm very, it's made me, that was good, that was good that had happened. So it has set my mindset on a good path. And it's taught me how to be so grateful for the position that I'm in. also and how fast that shit can be just taken away from me.

And that it's also giving me like a new release on training and a new approach or something that I feel like it's just, it feels near like a loss without a loss, do you get me? Right. So now when I go back, I've got a good mindset and knowing that it can be just taken away from me, knowing how lucky that I'm to be in the position

where I've pipped myself and I'm looking forward to going back into training now with that cool, confident, calm mindset. so it's going to be a good return for me one question i wanted to ask you right like i mean we know that you are a teenage prodigy in this sport you you took your first professional fight when you're 13 years of age i believe it was i mean yeah that's a 10 year career already nearly is is it like yeah do you feel the the years on your body so to speak you're still so young but you know you

do have moils on the clock or have you always realized that you are competing very young and put stuff in place to deal with yeah yeah 100% but I just trying it's like a I've realized on the last I'd say in the last seven eight months I would say maybe maybe a bit more

maybe since about a year since the first time I've been event at the Dublin show is that your small everyday habits is what you create success do you know what I mean so them small little things that you do day in day out is what creating overall success and it's the same way in your

body them small little habits that i do every day ables me to pit miles on my clock do you know what i mean so waking up eating healthy all the time fights no fight stretching looking after my body pulling out when this need to pull out know that kind of thing and being smart with it and not being a fucking idiot and being i'm the tough guy i could just fight i can power on through this do you know what i mean and realize, wait a minute, I've got another 10 years to do. I've just did it. I've just did 10 years. I've got another 10 years ahead of me.

And thinking long term, so it is, that's the key to this thinking long term, thinking 10 years. Do you know what I mean? Think past fighting. Think past that kind of stage. And that's the key to keeping a healthy body in mind. It's kind of counterintuitive. Like if you're a race car driver and you've got a car that's damaged to go into a race, right? Like your guy's car is your body essentially, right?

So, I mean, what will be the point? I mean, but it's the same thing on the mindset also, though, because it works both together. You need to keep both very in check and both working together because if the mind doesn't work with the body, then it's not worth of fuck even doing it. Do you know what it means? So you need to take that time to yourself, think long term, and think logical about it. And that's just what I have been doing recently. and I feel absolutely great. So I do part from that little back thing

that I had going on. Now I'm back training in two weeks, do you know what I mean? So that's just the positive kind of vibe that I've got in my head. And it's working out good. It's great to hear you'll be back in two weeks, James. But I was wondering,

Leah's announcement that the announcement, the announcement that Leah McCourt would be the main event was quite polarizing. I see a lot of people very happy with it as well. We had Leah on the show last week speaking about how you actually got on to her and you congratulated her on getting that status, that main event status

that's usually held by you. How do you feel about it? Did it shock you at all that they went for Leah? Did you expect anyone else to be in the kind of running for that position? Two options I feel that they had, and that was Leah and Kiefer. I didn't feel like they had any

more options than that. For terms of a good, like, people, know, a fight that people want to go and watch. Do you know what I mean? Or someone that people want to go and watch Star power essentially

Star power essentially and someone who's hit themselves out there someone who isn't scared to go and grab somebody both hands and someone who's playing the game it's someone who creates relationships and builds

a hype about them that people want to get interested in and they're the only two people that I've kind of seen in the whole car that are that are doing that aren't challengers a little bit but other than that that people are not are not putting themselves out

there to create relationships. Because at the time of the day, Belter is just people. Do you know what I mean? People think it's just like a business or something and I fight, I deserve this. And that's not how it works.

The people behind scenes have to get invest in you. The fans have to invest in you. The people tuning in the watch have to invest in you. So if you're just like a normal everyday guy and not putting yourself out there to be different or to be, no, there has to be a snap. to get them know they turn their heads and like you so it shouldn't be essentially just about

fighting like it should be like you should be able to you're nearly creating a brand is that where you're kind of sound like it's nearly it's nearly like well it is if if if you if you think no like oh it should be just about the high quality fights and and and your record and no just fighting all the good experience that's that's 100% well then you're on the undercard do you know what I mean no one knows you but it's a hard fight it's a hard high high level fight. Very few people want to watch it, so why should you be on a main card? Yeah, yeah, I was going to ask you

about this, because obviously we had, we were talking on, well, you replied to one of my tweets earlier on, and I do actually really value your input on this because, look, look what you're doing, right, in the main event, you're clearly leaps above anyone else in Europe by far and pretty much the whole Bellator card.

I was, as I do, complaining, as I like to do, and it was about Paul Redmond being put on the undercard, and I'm just going to read what you wrote back to me. It said, Paul's a legend and a great fighter and an all-round guy. I understand why it's not a main card TV fight, and I feel if more fighters understood, boy, this is not a main card.

They wouldn't be all broken on the undercard. You've got to play the game before it plays you, or take what you're given. Like, I understand what you're saying to a certain degree, but you can shed a lot more light on this than I can. Is that basically what you were talking about just there? 100%. Do you know what I mean?

That's what I've had to cross the team. either. It's, it's kind of like, yeah, that's well and good, do you know to mean? But at the end of the day, that's nothing to do with business. That's nothing to do with a show. That's nothing. If you don't want to play the show, I get criticism, oh, he's trying to be like this, and he's trying to do this, and he's trying to do that.

All right, then, or I can just go and be a normal guy, have none of that shit on me back. Be on the undercard and not get paid a penny and best fighters in the world. That's not for me. That's not my route. All the best, and best I've looked to you if you just want to fight hard fights and be willing.

But go back, that's not, that's not to do with Paul, but go back on the Paul. Paul's one of the best fighters in Europe, as is the guy he's fighting. Do you know what I mean? That's a high, high level fight. But Paul's just in, like, a normal guy, do you know what I mean?

Paul's just your average guy, and he can fight, and he's one of the best fighters in Europe, and it's the same with the other guy. Do you know what I mean? They don't put themselves out there. They don't put themselves into positions, and that's cool.

I'm not criticizing anyone for not, doing that. If that's your way, it's just different. But don't, when you're not playing the game that's there to be played, don't complain when you, when you get what you're given. And do you feel, and Paul hasn't, you know what I mean? He hasn't complained in fairness, you know what I mean? Every time he actually tells me to shut my mouth to be fair. Yeah, Paul's a great guys, you know what I mean? And I'm not, I'm not criticizing anyone. I'm just pointing out the differences of what you want. It depends what you want on what you have. to give to get what you want you know what I mean and people are just people want

it all but do want to give anything and that's just not how business works can you can you like explain to say like say the difference between we see Kiefer's in the common event there what do you feel has been the difference between like say Kiefer you know Kiefer very well a good friend of yours and Paul like do you feel as though Kiefer puts himself out there more and you know engages with the following more maybe engages with the Bellator brand more that's another point that I'm going to get to is engaging with a Belator brand. Right.

You can't go online and big up competition for Belator. Do you know what I mean? Because I know if Kiefer was up, bigging up my opposition, I wouldn't fucking be friends with them. I wouldn't, do you know what I mean? I'm like, who the fuck are you? You may go up in there backing up my opponent. Right.

Do you know what I mean? So I can't go on Twitter and start sticking up for my, like, employees opponent. Do you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And you're not with the UFC and cage warriors stuff like this maybe? Anything. Anything to do with it?

I just can't, like, do you know what I mean? I can't go on publicly. Right. No matter what I think, I can't publicly pit myself out there when I'm supposed to represent Belator. Why would I, when I'm representing Belator, why would I be sticking up for other promotions? Do you know what I'm saying?

Why would I be supporting other promotions? It just doesn't. it doesn't make sense. So when you're doing stuff like this, I don't get how you can, because if you took it down to a personal level, like you wouldn't speak to your friend for fucking supporting your mates

or like a business up the street when you've got your business and your front doorstep. Right. Do you get me? Yeah, we're kind of looking at it like an organization, as you said earlier more so that this is a...

It's not. It's not. So it is, I don't... If you want to look at it like that, that's cool, but it is not that. Do you know what I'm saying? so you need to get people need to understand

that there's people behind this you know what I mean multiple people and it's the same with the UFC do you know what I mean you think if you fuck down a white office is going to go and put you on the pay per view give you pay per view cut your main event give you all this yeah yeah come on

no what I mean come on you know what I mean come on you're actually the insight yeah it does when you break it down like that it makes a lot more sense I guess in terms of how bellator feel about the situation especially exactly so that's that's everything that's that's everything and if you don't want to pick yourself out there to be criticized or to be liked if you don't like someone coming up and ask me for a pitcher in the street but you want to be the best fighter in the world that is absolutely

fine and i i i support that because i like that to be honest as a as a fighting fan like i'm a fan of gunny gunning nelson yes of course you know that's that's me i'm a fan of fucking manny pack you paradigm's new signing. Do you know what I mean? That's who I'm a fan of that quiet, humble Reese McKee. I'm a fan. Do you know what I mean? I'm a fan

of that. That's what I like. That's not me though, so I won't be that. I won't do it and I don't want that. It's not for me, but I'm definitely a fan of it and that's what I like. Do you know what I mean? Jason Quigley, another good boxer from up Donny Gall, hope aside where I live. The most quiet, humble

guy you can know but I'm a massive fan of how they conduct themselves but it's just not for me and not for what I want do you know what I mean? Yeah absolutely and thanks very much for that I do I feel like I have a better grasp on that now after you were saying

that I wanted to ask you that before I just slipped my mind but when are we going to see you back James I mean you said you're back to you're ready to go in two weeks time like I mean when do you expect to be ready to go I'm back shadow boxing I'm back shadow boxing and moving around the gym in two weeks. So I'm just going to take it slowly from there.

I'm an absolutely no rush pizza. I'm not. I'm just working on the small daily habits every day that create a lifetime of success. And that's my main focus now on doing that and building an infrastructure around me that can't be broken. Because no matter what happens to my career and my results, if I build an infrastructure that can't be broken, I can never fail. Right. I mean, is it fair to say, like, I feel like the interest is palpable. Once again, as I said the first time when Carl was forced from your initial bout,

and now you've been forced through injury out of this fight, I feel like the appetite is really still there for you and Carl. Is that how you feel, and do you feel like that fight is next? I don't give a bollick, if the appetites there or not. I'm picking him next. He doesn't call me all these names and all for pulling out after I have loads of

official medical scans to show that I cannot fight and then just because he fucked up his medical scans not to say that his showed anything he just didn't get the right people to look at them just all of being laziness

and that's disrespect to me and then he can disrespect me and started saying oh I injured the vagina and he's pussy and this and that bullshit you know what I mean so he is next he's not getting away that lightly and it's after when he was injured I got the fight signed up again.

Now I am injured, so I am going to get that fight lined up again, and hopefully we can do it in the next couple of months, the next few months. Do you feel disrespectful by that, James? Yeah, you bit... Like, I mean, to be fair, when he was forced out, I feel like you were... You went out of your way to get him that fight again. You spoke very respectfully about him.

I didn't have to do it. I didn't have to give him in it again. Do you know what I mean? It's kind of gone now. It doesn't matter, but since I was the one, no, no, no. he deserves this he was injured he didn't get his chance to fucking change his life so you better be careful how he because that's what he kept saying this fight's life changing this fight's life changing so you better watch how he fucking speaks about me before uh or else he'll not get his life change

a moment they're going to pick someone fucking else do you i mean but it's third time unlucky for him because he's going to get it this man i feel like people are going to hear this and going to be even more excited about it james but um an absolute pleasure to speak to you as always and thanks for that insight i really appreciate that actually um i don't think there's anyone better place to explain that to us than you based on your experience so i do really appreciate it all depends what you want you know what i mean and that's what it's downed they just don't complain when you just want to fight the best and be under the radar and just have the toughest competition that's fine but if you want to earn fuck tons of money fight the best and be the main events then you

have to do it all you know what i mean you have to do it all so the the choice is ultimate yours as they say. It sounds like you're about to host some type of TV show the way you put that out. But an absolute pleasure, James, man. Will I see it? 100%. I'm going to be there supporting the boys and getting behind Leah and getting behind everyone. And I'll be there cheering them all on and supporting everyone and looking forward to a night of martial arts.

Brilliant, James, man. Thank you so much again. I hope they see everyone else there as well. so make sure I'm by your ticket. Okay, man, still promoting. He's not even on the guy, he's still promote. All the best, man. On the B.C. right, way, way, right.

A pleasure to speak to James, as always, obviously going to be a tough week for him this week, knowing that he would have headlined that, but great words of support there from Liam McCourt. And to be honest, I feel as though this whole thing that's happening with him in Carl's fight, it's making more people interest in it. Like, the first time Carl pulled out a fight,

I couldn't really get a scope on how much interest there was. and then he pulled out and everyone's like oh this fight's getting taken off the card I felt like this card was even more reliant on that fight as in it was one of the key fights everyone was looking forward to and now that it's been called off again even more people

oh we needed that fight etc and now you have James kind of saying like between those two there is friction there there is a lot of friction now we did see that amp up a little bit but it's definitely on a different level now it's getting worse and worse you look at the social media post even today I saw James commenting on about

Carl I think said to maybe Mike Morgan over in the UK. He said something about James and it was a little bit of back and forth there. I remember speaking to James, he was going, like Carl was looking for a way out the last time. Yeah, it's definitely,

and I think obviously since James has pulled out, Cal's going to play that card now. So obviously there's more people going to be talking about it. It's James Galaher. It's Carl Elinor. Carl's a quality fighter as well. So, yeah, listen, man, I'm looking forward to this one.

I think, you know, as we said about Bellator, there's not an awful lot of storylines and the more storylines, and you have the more eyes are going to become on the two lads and on Bellatory MMA in this part of the world so we need storylines like this off Bellatory I think it's nothing but a good thing

let's just hope it doesn't get as dark as Habib and Connerment. I was going to say let's hope it doesn't turn into the circus. Habib, no matter of the Tony Ferguson of European ML8. There goes my phone. But that like I mean Jesus

the two times it's been pulled already we'd have fingers and toes crossed that they were actually does happen. But it's a good thing. It is. It is. We need stuff like this. So, you know, even this week, I think there's maybe a little of a lack of that really coming into it. Those two lads are going to be in Dublin this week. So I can imagine. Oh, Jesus. Yeah.

A bit of push and shoving, so I didn't even think about that. Yeah. Fun times ahead this weekend. So we'd be following James around to see what happens. Stick a camera on Gala. But last weekend on February 15th, New Mexico, Rio Rancho,

we had Jan Blackover. v. Corey Anderson and the legendary Polish power once again had its way on the night. What a Keo from Blackovich. Look, that's both hands now. He's done Rockhold with the left hook, his right hand drops Anderson. And most importantly, I feel he has this kind of stare down face off with John Jones, where John Jones is kind of screaming like a gin-it and jumping up and down like a lunatic. I feel as though

that has really put it over before the fight I felt as though the likelihood of the winner of this fight and Jones are taking a serious not because of the Reyes fight but we see John Jones talking to ESPN afterwards saying like he wants that fight getting a KO win is the way

to put yourself in that position how likely do you feel it is that Jan gets the next crack of John Jones? Yeah it's yeah it is interesting and I think he's you know after that stage and, you know, going out and doing what he did, as you said there. I think he's even jumping rest, to be honest, you because that was so impressive, man. I didn't see that coming.

I didn't see him. He melted him, like, melted him, as you said there. Yeah, like, totally destroyed him. I saw that, like, going literally five rounds that fight the way it was going to pan out in Cory Anderson's favour as well, like I picked last week. I thought that was the most likely way it would go as well. But I did feel as though if Corey didn't mix it up and he didn't really get time to mix it up, I guess. But I knew that Yan could catch him.

Yeah. You know. Some statement, like, in terms of actually looking at the fight and if we're going to compare it on that, and I know the UFC don't always compare it on that from what goes on outside the cage and obviously what went on with the judges, you know, all the controversy over that fight between John Jones and Reyes. You know, they might look at Reyes. They might, Reyes.

They might look at Blagovitz and go, fuck. You know, this could be a good thing for European MMA and, and, you know, you know, this could be a good thing for European MMA. you know, bring John Jones over here in Blagovitz, we'll take them in Dublin. Yeah, I think it's brilliant. It's good for the division we need if John is going to stick around. Well, that's what I was going to say. Like, the thing is, like, only a few months ago,

we were like, oh, there's no contenders just go to heavyweight. And now suddenly it's like Reyes and interest in the rematch, the rematch even, and Jan, it's a new opponent. Definitely interesting. What do you think, though? Like, do you think it's going to be Reyes or Blackovitz? Do you think it will be heavy way? heavyweight what way do you see it going i love to see him got a heavyweight i've said that already

um but after the reyes for you are you still a soul on that i'm not um maybe not i i just wonder if john is getting um you know complacent because this this he's done everything really and a lot of the names obviously in the heavy in the light heavyweight division aren't as big as the names that we know of in the ufc heavyweight division the likes of steep m eochich you know you have other fights like j ds something like that like they're in tru fighting fights for the fans and people are gone, holy shit, I'd love to see John Jones step up and and face these level guys. Imagine

like seeing John Jones and Alastor Overeem or something, just in terms of, you know, old school fights that we probably would have never imagined happened. So that's what I feel in terms of that. But the Reyes fight, like, did they're not, like, look at the way he's fighting there and look at the way he's landing. What do you

think happens if Francis and Ganoe's on the end those punches and not Dom Reyes? Well, as I said, I think there might be a little bit of complacency, so I don't think it'll give him a new lease of life if he goes to heavyweight. So will he be complacent if he rematches Reyes, knowing that a lot of people taught Reyes won that fight? I think it's probably a good thing for him.

Yeah. So, I mean, that's what I feel. I feel like you need to place that element of doubt in this, in the man's mind, in the promoters' mind, in Jones's mind. So we get the best out of him. But maybe it's just not there anymore. Like, that's one thing that we have to start thinking about here. Like, he's 33 years of age.

He has been in the cage for a long, long time. He's had a decade of dominance. There's also PED issues in the past. He's the most tested going in the world. Maybe we've seen John Jones's best days. Maybe they're behind them. 100%. Yeah, maybe we have.

But, you know, I looked at the Reyes fight, and I've watched it three or four times now, and I think a lot of the things maybe he's done in the last couple of fights in the buildup to the Reyes fight, he actually wasn't down. Like, he was, John seemed to be thrown a lot more combinations than he ever did in the fight prior to this. And it was just going back maybe to one single pair of,

shots and you know maybe it's just lack of complacency as we said but you know and for me i'd love just see the heavyweight because there's so many fights there but i would also see yon blagovitz get a crack after what he did on saturday night and um yeah i just feel like there's too many questions at 205 as opposed to a few months ago where we're like he's done it he's done it he's completed this go on yeah yeah yeah maybe answer those questions and then we'll we'll look at heavyweight next year yeah absolutely um so are you gonna apologize Diego sanchise winning Diego Sanchez dominates

Mikael Piero by disqualification to get the victory and so like obviously he doesn't need to retire if he's still winning at an elite level of fighting

look his coach is deadly yeah yeah just unbelievable like I don't know what more you can say and I think even by Diego's reaction you know

maybe that just tells you where he's at in his career I don't know if you can blame his reaction too much the guy's done everything he's been the most game for his in the world he gets an illegal kick.

Yeah, but what I'm saying, it's, it's something that you would have never, I don't think, you know, Diego was sort of known for that. Yeah, no, I totally agree. It was legal kicking the head, but it's just unlike him to say that sort of thing. Yeah, I get it.

I saw a lot of this online, but, like, I just feel as though a guy that's put in what he's done to the sport for him to, like, he did suffer an illegal blow to the head. Yeah. And if he can't continue, I mean, I'm taking that at face value.

Like, I mean, it's not the, it's not the silliest thing in the world to do either. You know what I mean? mean like knowing that you're caught like yeah because there's obviously ramifications if something happens yeah yeah absolutely and um you know i i just feel as though you can't you can't really you know throw him under the bus for that one i'm not trying i'm not trying under the bus oh no i don't think you are i saw a lot of people though that did like oh he's not you know it's finished it's uh that because

of this he's not game he has no desire to fight blah blah blah i just i think he has too much desire to fight if anything yeah well that's that's that's what i'm going to do that's that's what i'm going on my comparison of that maybe you wouldn't have seen that from him in the past and he would have made a silly decision he's probably made the correct decision if you know his heads all over the shop takes a legal shot dead right to pull out did you think herzog did it right in the way that i think if people were kind of criticizing the fact that he basically told him like you're losing this fight man yeah i tell you what they need to have a word but this is like the third or four time we've seen that he's good though i think he's here no he is he's a very good referee he's one of the

better referees. But we've seen this with Damar Leata, Herb and, you know, Jason Herzog now, I think, like, lads, come on, let's, let's just, let's just keep everything. There should be ramifications for these guys if they're saying things like this. And, you know, it is.

It's going to influence someone's talk process when they're in the cage. It's a fucking nightmare. And the commissions maybe should be having a word or laying down more stringent laws. So there should be like nearly a criteria of what they go to 100%. I'm sure There is. It's just what happens in between those comments, I guess.

Yeah, but look at Sruven. I know it's a different instance. Strieve and Robwell, well, that was just like, fucking hell, damn. What are you doing, man? Do you know what I mean? You're basically telling him that he's won two fucking rounds.

Yeah, yeah. Mara Romero Borella came up short against Montana de la Rosa on that main card as well. But from a European perspective, there was one fight that we were really, really big on. And that was Nathaniel Ward, John Dodson.

A really good fight. We knew it was going to be competitive. Dodson actually stops Nathan would in the third round. I feel as though up to that point, I feel it was either going in Dodson's favour or just hanging in the balance and I respect that. Nathaniel went out and tried to

force the fight to Dodson. He got caught for it, but certainly not the end of Nathaniel. If anything, I feel like he's going to learn a lot from this, but I saw a few questions about the stoppage. I understand the criticism as far as

he was getting back to his feet when it was called, but I have no massive issues with it, you know. Yeah, I felt like that as well. Watched it back there, and just before you got over here as well, and it was like one of those ones, you know, the left hook was so sweet, it was so spot on that, you know, you probably would... I think it was disoriented it. Yeah, yeah, he sort of turned

to his left and didn't really know where he was. He was taking an endless amount of shots, and, you know, I don't really because I don't think would have got any better for, um, for Nathaniel Wood. But listen, the one criticism I will have and just maybe Brad in the corner of, uh, of Nathaniel like he said he was watching this at a party kind of situation so I didn't really he said he was winning the you know the round the first round I actually scored both

first and second in um shaded and the first to Dodson gave the second to Dodson and bar Nathaniel did a little bit of work and I think he caught him in the end of the first round I believe it was and then took him down at the end of the first round as well but those last 30 seconds but Dodson seemed to land the cleaner shots off the back foot his pace is obviously a nightmare, but Brad was just going, he was just seen pretty certain that he was winning the rounds, and I'm not sure that's really the, you know, maybe the right thing to say to the fighter would be that convincing.

So I was a little bit surprised with that from Brad's experience, but... Interesting, yeah. It felt like it was a close fight, right? Like, I felt the little moments where I win the rounds for Dodson, like his counter and was really nice. He was waiting for Natal to really just step onto his shots, really, and he was doing a great job of that. But, you know, a loss at this stage in his career,

for Nathaniel after such a resounding start three three submission wins in our own the UFC a loss at this stage is it isn't the end of the world by a long long shot and I feel like look at look at look at Daniel right like how long was this win streak he was on like because he had lost to Alan Philpott last before that was the last that was the last that was his last loss was against Alan Philpot and Bamma. He looked like a different yeah animal so I expect to see the same now yeah I think he has it in him he's young he's hungry I feel like yeah Brad is on the verge of getting a permanent facility as well

for his team which may have hampered Nathaniel had been in the lead up to this I can remember when we were talking to him back in November he had said

they were kind of between spots so I don't really know that for sure but I feel like he can definitely come back and make a huge name

for himself and I don't feel as though I still wouldn't rule out of him fighting for that belt someday in his career yeah no listen I agree with you

but people are forgetting who he was fighting yeah come on like that's a fucking nightmare he only he only loses that are very cream at a crop.

Exactly. Exactly. Like he's top two, three guy the whole time all through his career. Ever since he blasted in from the ultimate fighter, no disgrace losing to John Dodson.

And I think it was interesting. Even Dodson said afterwards and then post-fight he said, well, that's what the UFC get for putting me in as a litmus test. Like, you can't really argue with that. Yeah, absolutely. But I feel as though it's a huge win for Dodson.

Like, I mean, Nathaniel has so much hype here. Massive win. Ridiculous. He bends back. no doubt about it. Absolutely no doubt about it. I'm very intrigued to see what his next move is there and I feel as though he will be surging towards that title situation again soon. But yeah, I guess that's all we really have to talk about

from the Rio Rancho card. Let me just make sure there was no other Europeans. I'm forgetting... No, I don't think so. Omerab de Vileas-Fili with his decision win over Casey Kenney. Keene? I'm not too sure. But yes, we are going to go to our second interview of the day now. It is with the great Molly McCann. Molly is amazing. She does these interviews while

she's getting in a taxi, flagging a taxi, gets home. But she's seamless. She does the whole thing and it doesn't even feel weird. She's great crack as always. She's not like her other compatri Darren Till from Liverpool where Jesus Christ. It's tough to get that man on the phone sometimes a lot of time. But great to hear Molly. The thing with Leah and Molly, they have this amazing friendship and Molly has been in this situation before where she's put into main events when Fisie fell out of a of a Liverpool card back in the day and she's shouldered all that burden and got the win as well and she's kind of saying look I know Leah's made from that same kind of cloth as I am and she feels as though you know even though there is more media obligations there is

more stuff for Leah to do if she can do it it will launch her star I think that's Bellator's thinking on and that's really ours as well it's either going to go one way or the other and so great to hear from Molly about Leah, from Molly about her upcoming fight with Ashley Evan Smith in London. And of course, I asked her about all of you Irish fans asking her to be on the UFC Dublin card. She is one of the most prominent names that we have seen mixed with that card so far. And she has promised that if she gets a win in London, she's going to call for a shot in Dublin in the cage. And she might even throw the old trope. There's going to be a lot of them.

There's going to be a lot of them. Yeah, I'd imagine so. But I think Molly has a better argument the most. Definitely. what she tweeted me there earlier or not what's her grandmother's name from Wiclo?

It's a great thing you know she has that the family here and stuff as well yeah she mentions it in the article I can't remember

the name verbatim but she definitely says it in the piece here so look let's hear from Molly and we're back in about 15 minutes we are now joined

by the great Molly McCann who is waiting to flag a taxi after training the great Molly will obviously be back in action

in March against Ashley Evan Smith in London but there is a lot of things we need to talk to Molly about including our good friend Liam McCourt main eventing the Bellator Card in Dublin this weekend and the amorphous amount of interest from Irish fans to have Molly on August 15th UFC Dublin card

we have a lot to get through but first of all how are you Molly well to know what mate I am flying I'm four and a half weeks out my weight's down my muscle masses up I'm still eating good and I'm two sessions in today. Like you say, get a little taxi home, go and eat to walk the dog and then train again tonight.

But I can't complain. Life is what you're making. And life's pretty good right now. The thing that strikes me about the lead-up to this fight for you, Molly, is how different you are in terms of, you know, position winning the UFC. Like, think about the Priscilla Cachoera about you were coming off that Gillian Robertson loss

and you were very open about, you know, how you'd got down on yourself before that fight. and you'd overcome so much to then go and win in London but now you're on a three-fight win streak it seems everything is working in your favour and you've got this fight coming up is it a very different lead into the fight

do you believe? If I'm being deadly honest then I'm not scared to be honest about my feelings and my emotions it's no different the mindset of I know I'm good enough and I know I can be a weird champion

is still there with the pressures that I put on myself and the the feelings that I felt on fight camp for UFC, London, was still the same when I went to Greenville, was still the same when I went to Boston, and it's still the same now. But I believe that where I respect every single opponent I get now

to more than I've ever respected them before, like I'm training more. And when I get in there, I don't disrespect them because I've respected them so much in the training sessions. But by the time I get in there, I literally think I have had every person that I can get to imitate you or who's better than you to come at me. So by the time I get in there, I don't have to be scared no more or unsure, but still the feeling of the pressure and all that still stays with me. And I still speak to very shortly mind, coach.

You're all right, boss. Staff and Molly, I'm just doing an interview on the phone. Is that all right? I just won't be chatting to you that much. Watch your name, lad. What's your name? My name? Yeah.

Billy, well, Billy, you're on MMAfighting.com. Billy, I'm happy to you, Bermann.

Amazing. Yeah. So, yeah, to cut it short, me, I'm feeling, I'm feeling good.

It's a nice place to be, isn't it? But you still have that pressure on you and that target on your back

the best that you do. You have become, like, a huge fan favourite. We already knew you reverberated with all the Liverpool fans

during your Cage Warriors' run, but this has gone international now. What's that like dealing with this whole new buzz that surrounds you? Do you know I feel like I'm more well-known that I've got in fighting, probably the more humble and quiet that I've got. But it was mad

when I was in Boston and people was coming over to me and they knew who it was and I don't know, I think when you're honest and you're open, people can relate and I'm not I back up what I say and it's not to the extent where they could come across a little bit like, I don't know,

how Macy Barber can sometimes be portrayed. I'm a little bit different because I'm, I don't know, I'm still an empath, I still feel sorry for my opponent when I beat them. I don't know what I mean. I go over to them, I'm like, I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry. That's hilarious. Yeah.

What do you think of Evan Smith in terms of the opposition you faced before and now Evan Smith? Do you believe that she's a step up? Do you see... Do you respect to her? Yeah. I followed her from when she'd be Fallon Fox when she first got signed to the UFC. I actually followed her on Instagram and then when I signed the fight I got to unfollow it

because I thought, oh, I can't be seen your page just doing the heading. But look, the question's going to be asked March 21st as Molly really improved. And obviously we all now have improved in every area because the status. came out last year and that said so but this is the test again like I was putting against people who was favourites in my last few fights and then this one is right we've given a platform now Mal

now it's time to perform under pressure against an opponent who you might not have done so great against previously because she's a big grappling and she's a big wrestler and he ranges a lot bigger than mine and how I see it now is she's took a few losses which I don't think she actually lost I think she was robbed on a split decision

and against Andrea Lee I thought she won the fight and she's had injury so I know she's going to be skinned and I know she's going to be coming and she's going to need the money but you're fighting for that money sometimes you know what I mean when you haven't fought for a year and I see that her life

and I was very much influencer based and my question is when you get it, if it goes out of rounds one and two when it gets into round three, have you got the onions to stay in with me in that last round? Because that's normally my best round. I just go through the gears when I'm fighting.

And I just, that's what we're going to see. How many times am I going to stop your take time, beat you up a bit before you start giving up on your plan A and then resort to plan B. And your plan B, my plan A beats. So, let's just see that. the expression, have you got the onions? I'm going to use that all the time from now and I've never heard that before.

It's amazing. Like, that's it, isn't it? Have you got the onions to get in there? And we all know that's what my greatest asset is, is my resilience to give up and to push through broken orbitals, cuts, broken hands. I'll go through Hellen back to get that win, especially in London in front of the home crowd. You know, Molly, one thing I wanted to ask you about was Leah, because, or, or, I'll go through Hellenbach, to get that win, and especially in London in front of the homecraft. I remember, you know, you were main eventing fights for Cage Warriors very early on in your career. Leah now at 3 and 1 is going to headline this event in Dublin.

It's an amazing thing for women's mixed martial arts, of course. But is there any way to repair yourself for that situation being thrust into a main event? And do you feel Leah is ready for this? So I had to have a conversation with it about it because I said, where I said, exactly the same thing happened to me. When I fought for the World Title, I was co-main event, and it was only Lee Chadwick got injured. That two weeks before the fight, I got made. Main event, so I said, I know everything you are feeling right now.

And it is that overwhelming feeling of the amount of press she's got, she's obviously got more pressed than any other main card fighter would have got. So I was like, you've just got to take that in your strides, and don't feel obliged to answer there and then. I said, your training comes first. and then the media obligation comes second. And don't stress yourself out with that too much, but if I'm talking about fire under arse,

I am talking about since that moment and later you've got main events, you know she puts it on the line every single time, and you know she travels everywhere for training, the commute she does every day just to be the best year. And I said, this is your reward for everything that you've worked for. So don't go in putting too much pressure on yourself. You have to take...

You've got to sit there and when Stormsy plays when you walk out and you just look at the free arena there for you. Take this in because this is why you're doing it. You never thought that you was going to do this. Like mine and Lee's goals are the same. We both said we want a headline Liverpool. She wants to headline Belfast or Dublin. And she's doing it.

And a lot quicker than what I did it. To know what I mean? So I'm just so buzzum. I can't even get main card on the UFC and my best mate's three on morning headline. I'm like, Leah, you are flying. Do you know what I mean? And the best thing is, is there's never any one ounce of jealousy.

It's just like pure will for your training partner to win. And it's great. Yeah, I feel like, you know, we already know, as you mentioned there, the media attraction towards Leah, the amount of people that are interested in her story, the amount of women she's brought towards a sport here. Do you feel as though this is the fight that will launch a thousand ships for her? Do you feel as though this is where she shows everyone that she is this, this international star for Bellator, basically?

A hundred percent, I think, and I've said to it, right, there's no going any lower than where you are now. You're at the highest part of your career, so you have to be smart. She's never once shied away from any opponent given to her. But I said, you're going to get the headline now. And I said, don't, don't be rushed into taking the cyborg fight if it comes. next fight or the fight after. I said, because you've still got some growing to do. And I said, and this isn't about dodging.

This is just about being ready in your career at the right time. Katie Taylor is the biggest female sports star in the world right now. Then you've got the north of Ireland's Liam McCourt, and she's going to start taking it and transcending it to the next level also. So that island, the whole of the island is just producing some, unreal talent at the minute. And it's just roll with it. Do you know what I mean? And I just said, Leah,

on your waste day, you are going to destroy this girl. And I said, this is going to be the fight that you're going to put your whole thing together. Mate, I'll just jump out at the top, save you it, turn around, because it's a bit of a tough one this one. You're a legend. This is brilliant.

Go on, lads. Thanks very much. See you after, Bob. Or Billy. I forget. See you later, Matt. Yeah, so I just think. that this is the fight that

do know like I say when I fought in London I got to do me to do my grappling and off backwards no she'll talk about it

a lot when you're a grappling you want the knockout finish them yeah when you're a striker you want the submission

I say a million times oh my God I'm not a part of next gen until I've got this fucking submission

so yeah it's you just want what you've never had I suppose. I got it. Before you go, Molly, I've got to ask you

about the interest that's been generated. Like, you already have a fight lined up for London, and this Dublin card gets announced, and you're one of the

most prevalent names. From Vonn's. Every time, I was like, we want Molly, we want Molly. Like, your link to Ireland

is huge, right? It's crazy. So, my nan is Maria Cranley from Wicklow and Bray. And I was speaking to my uncle and my auntie the other day,

and I went, can I have a birth certificate? They're like, yeah, why and I was like because I'm going to apply for Irish citizenship

so when Brexit happened I thought oh swear this I'm just going to go and be Irish and I'm just invest in my

heritage property and and then UFC Belfth Dublin comes about and I'm thrown up there and I was speaking

about it in my boxing gym today and they was like just come out with the Irish flag and I was like look I can't just be in bag

my nation I can't be Do you know what I'll do? I'll come out like what Artham does with the Russian and the Irish life. Yeah, the tri-colum, man. Like my family, me

aunties and uncles, they support Ireland. So when we watch the rugby and all that, they all support Ireland. Do you know what I mean? So it's just, I'm going to win this fight and then I'm going to stay in the cage

make me an odd, let's get me on that Dublin card because me. strong, do you know what I mean? My roots are strong there. And I'd probably take it. I'd sell loads to take it as well. Just a shame I don't get commission, yeah.

So that's a lot. If everything goes according to plan in London, you'll be asking to give you on that Dublin card, yeah? Yeah, I'll be saying it on the microphone because I asked my manager, Graeme Boyland, the seconds I got announced, I sent him a message and he was like, let's not take our eye off the prize.

I said, oh, I am seriously not. oh sorry I'm seriously not taking my eye off the prize but I want that Dublin I need on not before a die do you know like when you need on Madison Square Garden you need the free arena after see after go to Bell atolletort and seeing what it's like there oh I need on I need on it and you'll bring Frank which is well hopefully will you I'm just looking at him now Frank I'm just walking through the door I know yeah we need to see him in Ireland as well maybe get a little Irish jersey for the event, that would be amazing. Yeah, I can bring them over on the,

I've got to do like a smuggling job, I can bring them on the ferry to Belfar, and then have to drive them over the border. We'll help you, we'll help you get them in, Molly. Thank you so much for talking to us again, Molly. You're a legend. I enjoyed this, the taxi journey, everything. Brilliant words about Leah too.

Really boring for that fight even more after talking to you about it, to be honest. A pleasure, as always. Okay, thanks very much, boss. Talk to you soon, Molly. Catch you later. Bye. The legend, Molly McCann, never fails to deliver.

One of our listeners' favorite interviews on the podcast, and I'm sure they'll have enjoyed her making her away from her training session all the way home to feed her dog as she was during that interview. Fantastic. Jesus, why not do Molly and Valentinisher? Yeah. Well, look, if she is, she's going to be on four wins in a row if she gets her in over Ashley Evan Smith. you know why not

have to see how the cards fall essentially but I mean if she gets a win against Evan Smith and she wants to be in Dublin that's going to be a huge fight right there yeah massively huge

and maybe if Jojo and Valentina happens in between then due to all UK clash there due to Monty McHan v Joe Jolla would that be wild imagine that'd be feckin Battle of Britain in Dublin yeah I think they have a lot of respect

for each other as well so I mean good interest in fight there to make obviously she has a lot of comments there on Liam McCorm I think we widely agree with her that this could be a star making performance. The broadcast details came out after our show last week. Obviously the fact that Paul isn't on the main card, either main card, because there is two. There's the Bellator Dublin, McCourt v. Ruiz main card, which goes out on Channel 5.

That consists of Liam McCart v. Judith Ruiz, Charlie Ward v. Coil-Curts and Aaron Chalmers v. Austin Clem. And of course then there's the Bellator 240 card, which will be headlined by Brent Primis and Chris Bungard. Also on that, the co-main event of that card is Kiefer Crosby v. I'mac Fertado. Also on that is Beck Rawlings v. Alina Calando, and Ricky Bandeas v. Franz Malambo, which I feel is one of the best fights in the card. And Oliver Encamp v. Liu along, another fantastic fight.

The rest of the card will be on the preliminary portion of the card, which is going out on the Beltor MMA YouTube channel. Well done, Bellator for that. Yes. But just, I mean, we need to talk about it. I think we just clarify something. A lot of people were asking about the way this card, if you're there in person, it's going to go the other way around more than lightly.

So you're going to have Brent Primus and Chris Bungard is going to be broadcast there. It's going to be on tape delay, obviously, in the US. So that'll be on beforehand because they need to have some process and get it back. Lee is going to be the last fight. Yeah, it's going to be the last fight. Yeah. It's going to be in the arena. Yeah.

It's just the opposite way around the TV between the two cards. Yeah, so I mean, I feel as though, even though I do, I did take a lot from what James said earlier. Like, I still feel as though Redmond and Car Canyon is a huge fight. I feel like it shouldn't be anywhere else but on one of those main cards. I also feel like Philip Mulpeter and Daniel Crawford could be there as well. It's a really good fight. Very good. But, like, look, we've already kind of been true with this before.

but will we ever see it different, do you feel? Like, I mean, what does Paul Redmond have to do together? Well, I said last week they hate him. I was fucking right when I saw the broadcast details on Tuesday or whatever. Listen, I don't know. It's going to be interesting to see, you know, Paul obviously brings a lot of support of people are going to hang around after as well. And I hope they do, and I presume they will.

But Paul does bring a lot of eyes from a Dublin audience. But I think at this point, I don't think Paul's too worried. You saw his tweet what he said. I just think it's disappointing for the fans here that aren't at the event. they're not going to be able to watch it in TV. You're going to have to go on and tune into YouTube to watch it. Real shame as well, and as you said, the quality of the bout. But I don't know, really, maybe he's in there.

I really don't know. I don't know what to say about what Bellatorial name with Paul to administer. Who do you think has the most of gain from this card when you look through the card? I feel as though Primus v. Bungard, like that would be an absolutely astronomical scalp for Chris Bungard. Yeah. Like, I feel as though he comes in here and he's saving the day to a certain extent. losing isn't going to be the biggest burden to his career because it's

premised ago you fought for the world title but if he came away with the win holy shit like yeah massive former world champion you know it's it is it's it'd be a huge win for him and you know probably leapfrogs peter queely um unfortunately um for they got it here if bungard wins they got to make the quelly for yeah we've been talking about for god knows god damn yeah peter even said it when we spoke to him at the media day you lads have been pitching for that fight and yeah like you know we have Peter but you're obviously

you know your match against primus but yeah that will be the fight to make and you know I think Peter probably will fight the winner off fight I wouldn't be surprised at all especially if it's Bungard as well I think you know

yeah with the beef that's been there in social media and Bellator as we said need more of these stories so that could definitely be one that we see down the line another person who I feel because of what happened with Galaher and Bandaas

what if Franz goes in and I'm not ruling this out at all man his hands are ridiculous and what happens then if he goes in and beats Bandaas? Like he can't, I don't feel as though he dislodges Galaher as the focal point of these shows, if you get me? No, that changes. You're going to see a lot of people, like, I mean, it's going to lead to a lot of huge fights for France, I feel. Yeah, definitely.

And it's good. But again, I think it's what Bellator will do with him if he does go in and do it. That's the interesting thing because they're putting an awful lot of, you know, sort of seeds and our eggs in one basket, should they say, with James. and there's obviously a lot of pressure on James the whole time to perform. He's not on the card. Obviously, it's taking a bit of eyes off the card this time out. So, yeah, it's how they build them, what they do with them. And I'm just, you just really don't know with Bellator.

That's sort of... Aces are wild. Yeah, they are wild. And it's going to be interesting as well, a point, you know. And I think Bellator back again in September. It's near enough the UFC card as well. It's a couple weeks after it. So it's just, there's a lot of stuff going on.

And I think they need to start playing their cards right in terms of really getting storylines behind these guys and beefs going and making that beef public and getting on social media and getting traction behind it. Absolutely. I feel as though a lot can happen here, right? Like, maybe it isn't the most eagerly anticipated fight card of all time in Ireland. I'd say it's probably there's less buzz about this one than any other card they've done in Dublin over this recent stretch. But I feel as though results can change a lot, right? Like, I mean, if Leah goes out, here and absolutely upends this Ruiz girl. If Franz

gets a win over Bandaias, if Bungard managed to upset premise, I mean, this becomes a very pivotal event all of a sudden. There's fights there that can build narratives on storylines, promotional elements for the three you've named in particular.

I think Paul Rebond as well, we can't forget about Paul. Whether they'll do that or not, because hey Paul, I don't know. But there's an imprint there for them to do something down the line. We've talked about Lee in the division she's in as well. You know, there is bigger fights down the line. Oh, there's huge fights.

If she can handle this. But we even heard Molly say there earlier, like she goes, it's not, even if she goes in here and absolutely, you know, clean sweeps this fight, there's no need to be going up to the Soyborg level straight away. Because look. No, that's the problem with, as I said last week, with how. Ask Olga Rubin. Yeah.

Putting her in this position. It's putting a president there that she, she's at that level and that she's main event status. I understand what you mean, yeah. So, you know, that's why I was a bit uncomfortable with Leah headline on this cart. Yeah, I get it. I certainly understand it. But I feel like, you know, Leah, when she was on the show last week and Molly now kind of

saying the sorry of our talker quells that to a good degree before they're even going in there. Yeah, I think it's the right thing to do. Yes, absolutely. What fight are you most looking forward to? I have to say Paul and Georgie Cracking him. Just because of the two lads caliber and pedigree and where they've been and their careers. When is Paul ever in a crap fight, really?

All was exciting. Always looking for, you know, finish grabbing the toes, trying to take spice boxes home and all sorts of stuff. Georgie's the same as well. So I have to agree with you. I think Ricky Bandagias and Franz Malambo is an absolute. That's like fight of the night written all over at that one.

And, you know, there's a few other good fights. Encamping Long, just looking at that one there as well. Lewis Long is a funny man. Holy shit, man. He is a funny dude, isn't he? hilarious.

Yeah. he is. I'm looking forward to speaking to him. Well, Peter Crawford, another one. Really good, high-level fight there. Well, that's really going to show people where Philip is, because Crawford, although he has taken a few losses in Bellator, they've been to the likes of AJ McKee, to Pedro

Cavado. These guys are running away in their division. So, I mean, I feel as though that's a huge a huge statement for Phil to make. likewise for Daniel. A guy like Phil, who's being around the block, it's a big, big win to get him back to winning ways. Yeah, I think Phil, you know,

was his last fight, Keith McCabe? I actually thought Keith won that fight. A lot of people said to me, I've never gone back to watch it, but I can remember on the night, we were interviewing someone backstage, and by the time we came back out, there was a lot of conversation about it and stuff like that. I heard that Keith had had a fantastic boxing display.

Yeah, I added a pretty clear 29, 28 to Keith in that fight, and Keith obviously wasn't signed the back of it. You know, Phillips gone on to get a contract, a thing with Belletor, a multi-fight deal, So it is important, I think, for maybe after some of the rummlings that were going after that fight, to go out there and make a statement. And, you know, we've seen Phil fight here for years. He's a totalmate exciting fighters, Jesus Christ, that's one right there.

And we'll always go back to that infest night and out in the Regency against Rich Gorey, I think it was. Rich Gorey, he's had fights with John Donnelly, like amazing fights all the time. That was just an absolute slobber knocker. So, yeah, he's going to want to make a statement, but that's a crack and scrap there as well against, obviously Daniel Crawford, he's a bloody animal as well. I tell you who's gone under the radar a bit. Aaron Chalmers? Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, usually I feel like maybe you will pick up closer to the fight. Like I'm sure he sold a lot of tickets to people who are casual fans. Because Aaron's here, he's such a big name, such a famous dude. But I just feel as though you haven't really... You know what I think it is? What? I think it's acceptance now that people, right, he's a mixed martial artist.

Just let him get on with it. That's maybe what I feel now and they're going, right, he's not a... as much as a reality TV star anymore. He's had four or five, five, five, whatever. The freak show element has gone. The freak show element's gone. And maybe it's acceptance to a certain degree, which is a good thing. So that's maybe the way I look at it with Arn.

It definitely hasn't been the same traction. Yeah, absolutely. It's a bit of a weird one there, Charlie Ward in the Kameen event, but I guess they're hoping that a certain notorious Dublinar show is up to watch that way, right? No, Cades jumping, hopefully. Don't be putting Mark Goddard on that point. Yeah.

Don't be what Godard. No, Kade's jumping. It's been a good week for Irish MMA on terms of professional level. with the UFC going back with Bellator on let's hope it all goes smoothly. Belator are fucking hoping that he jumps into the cage of course they were loving at the last time. I don't remember it was on tape delaying that half of America

I think was their biggest ever European show. They were advertising tune in to see Conrader Jump into the cage. So yeah, listen let's just hope it all goes off without a hitch. I'm sure something mad will happen but fucking hope it doesn't. Kiefer obviously on that common event there as well.

James Fellas though was a run between Kiefer and Leah as to who would get the main events, but so... So we're going to have to start doing something with Kiefer, I think, soon as well in terms of, you know,

obviously had a lot of guys, you know, pull out of fights and interests. There's so much interest in them, like, and, you know, this is the second the point he's had for this card. So it's like, Kiefer's playing it all right, I feel like. I mean, he's winning the fights.

He's just getting on with it, yeah. But if they, if they want to, like, the only thing that will trust him a bigger spotlight on Kiefer, as there already is, like, I mean, he's already so much fan interest, there's already so much promotional power behind him. The only way to push it on to the next level

is to put him in a fight against someone that people instantly recognize, you know what I mean? Well, I think that I have to do, though. But for Jesus, Kiefer's been calling for like two years. Colin Fletcher and these guys, I mean, they've got to put them in a fight that gets the fans. Like, I mean, I guarantee it.

I ask everyone outside this fight for you, who they think is going to win Crosby v. Fertado. There's only going to be one answer. You know what I mean? Like, they need to. 100%. It's like what we're saying about John Jones earlier. You need to place the element of doubt to really see this guy thrive.

But, you know, a big kind of man to have on the card there in terms of the crowd. The crowd are always... That's the confliction with Bellator's. You know, you're getting this and you're getting Leah jumping into a main spot. It's just a little bit all over the place in terms of the matches they're putting together. And then we obviously see, you know, Franz and fucking, you know, and Bandias, which is just the total opposite of a fight like that, which, you know, I'd love to see Franz and Ricky on the main card.

It is on the maincard. Oh, is it? It's on the Bad 2-40 main-garet. One fight that's kind of making me very uncomfortable is Bullyade, very Diego Frides, who is making his pro debut. Like, Iliad has had like hundreds of kickboxing fights, and he starts the guy, the last fight in Dublin, and then you're going to put him in against a guy who's making his pro debut in MMA.

Like, that feels a bit unfair to me, like, you know? That's what I'm just talking about. That lays into that. But they did retroactively take a fight off a car. before because it was so unevenly matched and I'm like, I don't know, that seems a bit crazy to me. Richard Coily's back in action against George Hardwick.

He's going to come in and try to make a statement this catchweight bout at 180 pounds. It's always going to be a bit of crack when Richard's around. I'm also looking forward to Constantine, one of Andy's guys making his pro debut on the night. Good to see a pro debut being handed to Team Rhino again for these fights. He's fighting another guy on a pro debut.

Asael Aduj, I believe his name is. That doesn't sound right to me. Looks. looks like a UFC veteran Rucci Smullen like on the undercard here as well

against Albert Diaz that's a replacement for it as well Will Flurry has had great receptions in Dublin as well to be fair

he has very popular guy yeah yeah and a fabulous moustache and I like him he's a lovely fellow good lad he understands a game a lot as well Albert Diaz

against Will on the night Chris Duncan from Scotland who usually plays his trade at middleweight and a 161 pound about against Matthew

Piss Cores looking forward to that one as well and Dylan Logan had a new opponent Callum Murray. That was the whole Tom Merins incident we talked about last week. Blaine O'Drisco looking to bounce back into the wind column against Buraza and Kieran Clark

heavily, heavily mooted amateur for a long, long time who made his pro debut in one of the last Bellator cards. He's taken on another one in O pro in Jamie Foulding, Danny Neal and again back in action against Kiri Penco. So a lot of fights, Jesus Christ, that's 20 fights

I believe. Yeah, it's going to be a long evening on Saturday, eh? And then we've obviously, you know, UFC Auckland as well. Oh, great segue. Great segue. On to UFC on ESBN plus 26, Jesus, 26 already. Paul Felder v. Dan Hooker. You spoke to Paul.

I did. Seems Paul and Connor had a bit of an old skirmish after that Donald Saroni fight. Yeah, yeah. You can check out that interview on my, on my Twitter. Twitter and stuff you see it there. But yeah, it was. Connor apparently walked around the cage after the fight and told Felder to fuck himself effectively. So I think Paul was taking aback a little bit by it after obviously saying to him in the cage that he can have some too.

So pleasantries exchange. I think it's a good thing for Paul that Connor may be a little bit threatened or rattled. So listen, I think Paul understands the game the way it works. Definitely a man who spoke to me about. I was on text to him there. When he's in Auckland, he got over, I think, on Saturday or Thursday or something. And he's definitely interested in fighting here in Ireland. 100% if you get to win against Dan Hooker.

Lovely. He said he's going to pitch for it. The, you know, MMA mats isn't exactly correct. But, I mean, I have a feeling people are, because it was only his last fight against Edson Barbosa in Abu Dhabi. I was there for in the co-main event. Paul has taken a split decision win over Edson Barbosa, whereas Dan Hooker had a litany of problems against Edson Barbosa.

Is that strong enough merit to say Paul Felder is the favourite in this fight? No, I don't think so. I don't. I think it's a very tough fight. I think if you look at that fight that Hooker had against Barbosa, you know, obviously it wasn't a good time for Dan. He got pretty beaten up all throughout the fight. Paul sort of had the temp laid, I think, you know,

getting Barbosa's face, don't give him much room, keep the forward pressure. And it could. That could be a realistic problem for Dan Hooker in this fight because Paul's very good at that and I think Dan needs a bit space to get off with his kickbox

and Paul's the more aggressive moit toy, go on the front foot and try and pat her the head off you. So it's a great fight man. I think we're, I think it wouldn't be surprised if we go championship rounds here and get a decision.

I think this could be a... It's running with a radar probably for one of those fight of the ears sort of things. You can see it because they're both explosive bloody guys. It's a cracker. Both great strikers.

One thing I will say is I feel like Felder is big old pair of balls and I'm going into New Zealand at the moment. That is a place where MMA is in a similar place to where it was in Dublin when McGregor fought Brandeau. Like you're going right into the... Linesden.

Absolutely, man. It's a serious, serious fight. And as well with Israel getting, you know, world sports personality. That was amazing. Did you see a speech? Oh, it was incredible. He's fucking unbelievable. Pete, we need to put that into context. I don't there's enough being said about it across

the board in terms of MMA. This is a guy that's, you know, the only ever combat sports person to win that award, including boxers. That's amazing, yeah. The winners and the likes of the people who've won that are Richie McCall, like legendary all blacks, Joan Alomu. Just insane stuff from him. But yeah, in terms of the fight, man, I think Paul's relish and known Paul. He's excited about it. I think it's what he wants to do.

You know, I think there's probably more on the line for Paul, really, than there is for Dan Hooker. And Dan's obviously a little bit younger. I think Paul realizes this is his last push for the title. And if things don't go Paul's way on Saturday, I think, you know, Paul could be very well Paul's last fight. Wow. Do you really believe that? You could retire? 100%.

Do you think this is his last run, basically? Yeah, I think that's, you know, known Paul. And I think that's sort of the mindset here. You wouldn't even go to Welterway for us, maybe? Maybe with Dublin. He might have stick around of one more, maybe if he loses. I don't know. But I sort of get that vibe off, Paul, that he's, you know,

he's a young daughter, young family. he has this commentary gig with the UFC. Maybe he might just feel more comfortable concentrating on that if he can't get over the line here against Dan Hooker and get that big fight. I feel as though Jimmy Crue is biting off and awful lot here with Michael Alexi Chuk. Like, I mean, this guy isn't insane.

Is it a replacement? I think it might be. It's just an odd fight for me in terms of match for a common-man event. That's a hard fight for Jimmy Crewman. Yeah, big time. Alexi Chook is flying under the radar. Like, I mean, he did get Von Foyd for him. by Mr. von von

Flew himself off in St. Peru. But I mean, look at what he's doing. He's chaos on the John Valante. He won that fight against Calleyl Roundtree, but then he pissed hot. But, like, I mean, it was his first fight on short and always in the U.S.C. I tend to give someone

the benefited out there. In a sport where we do nothing but give these guys the fucking benefited out. I agree with you there, yeah. Yeah. Like, Jimmy Crew hasn't shown me that he's ready for a guy like this. Not at all. Not at all. I think he's way too green for

for a test like this against Daniel Alenchuk. How do you say? Alexi Chuk, I believe. I don't know. I'm probably wrong. Say it whatever he wants. I agree.

I agree. I think it's just a little bit too green. And I think we see some of these cards. You know, I think it's hard to get guys possibly to go fight down under sometimes to make that trip.

It's like 30 hours in a plane man from the US if you're looking at a US fighter coming in. I think it's 27 or 8 from fucking here. like guys don't really want to do that you know so um but from one from one like situation crew v alexich where i think the european is heavily favored i really don't like carolina koelkovich versus yan here no um yan has been fucking oppressive man she's i don't she's lost near ufc uh i think she's umbeating probably as well she's what three no she's lost one yeah she's unbeaten in the uccicic

and she's decision that angela hilton in the last fight carolina's coming into this fight back of a poor run, like a poor, poor run. We look at the Grasso fight, man. She just looked totally like she just lost confidence altogether in her game, lost three on the bounce.

There's mental issue there, I think, with Carolina possibly believing in herself. You know, we always talk about bouncing back from, you know, losses and world title fights and things like that. And I just don't think she really has got back to that level where she was at, and this is a massive moment for her career.

Oh, it really is, yeah. Two Russians in action with Magamad Mastayev against Brad Riddle. Brad Riddell, is it? Riddle? Yeah, he was in, obviously I saw his debut there. We were all very excited about it actually. Fizev, Mastayev beat, was not? Is that correct?

We were watching that fight. The Russian card there, I think it was last time out. Yeah, Phiziev, yeah. So, you know, that's a pretty decent fight. Oh, the spinning back for fuck. That could be an absolutely extraordinary striking match. Actually, Brad Radell, when we talked to Eugene Berman, were in Melbourne, me Casey and Esther went to interview him and he was like, this is the guy

that has been in the gym though. He's the guy, he's competed all over the place in kickboxing. It just got to the point where he didn't feel like he'd get earned anymore than he was in kickboxing. So he went to MMA, obviously got a good debut win there at USC 243. So that could be forwards. That's a great show actually, Noel. Also, Zubairaura took hug off good friends with Artem Loboff, as we know. He's taking on Kevin Aguilar. That's a big, big fight for them as well. Two good, good records on display against each other there. Yeah, and I love Kai Kara Francis on the card as well. Always love watching that guy.

Obviously dropping, I think, last fight to Brandon Moreno, if I'm not mistaken, in Mexico City. But I think he was unbeaten before that. He's a guy from city kickboxing as well. Eugene Barreman is doing some fucking good things there. And I enjoyed the interview, I listened to this week as well. He was on Submission Radio, lads I listened to it before you popped up there. Shout out to Submission Radio.

Love his boys. Casper and Dennis. Emil Meek is back in actually. against Jake Matthews, that's a fucking good fight. Jake, baby. The Celtic kid. Oh, they changed it again, didn't he change? He always changed his nickname that young lad.

I don't know, but emails on two losses coming into this. Last one was against Fabianzianzzi and Hamgworth. This is near two years ago? Jake, of course. Jake hasn't fought in a while, hasn't he fought Melbourne. Remember the hairiest man the world he fought? Yeah. All right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I was like, how you're going to deal with that body here, mate? He's like getting lads with rash guards with hair all over and to wrestle me all the time. I think Jake is one of those guys where maybe he hasn't lived up to the billing that he had. He was so young coming in, I guess. We saw that there was an endless sailing for him. But I mean,

his lad, like, he'd be on a four-foy win streak who wasn't for that Anthony Rockall-Martin fight. A lot of people are hot in Martin at the moment. So I like him in this fight against Meek, to be honest. No, I do as well. I do as well. I have to agree. I like me. Just to travel as well. That's a massive thing.

I was literally just about to say to you. I think, you know, a lot of these, guys at home as well. That's a massive, massive advantage, you know, when you don't have to make that fucking trip because it's seriously draining, man. It's horrible. I'm still not right for Melbourne. You've never been right. You've never been right. Also, there is a risen card on Friday, and not a lot going on there in terms of European action, but Falconello, would you believe? A man who pissed hot after fighting Fabian Edwards is in a very big fight there and 174 pounds. Strange the way they all go there, isn't it? It's interesting.

Marcus Yoshio DeSauza He's taking on I don't know if we have a lot Of other Europeans in actions I see Zugar I'm sorry Vugar Karamoff against Kyle Agoon But not really much outside of that up

But I always do enjoy a bit of risen action Won't be able to get it this week Because I'll be all over the Bellator beat But Makura Asakura is fighting as well McCurru Asikura should I say Against Daniel Salas One of the Asakura brothers who are heavily famed in the region, of course.

So we'll be interesting to click in and have a look at that. But yeah, that's all we have here. So let's get on to our final interview of the day. It is a man who has been touted as the next UFC fighter from the Emerald Oil. It is, of course, Reese McKee, a man whose notifications have been on fire since the UFC announced their return on August 15th to Dublin.

He's got that huge fight, a title fight for the vacant welterway title, on in Belfast on May 16th. And that's added a whole lot of interest to that card because as we know, Cage Warriors titles mean that you are next in line for a UFC contract. Will it be enough time between Reese McKee getting a win in May to getting a turnaround

for that contract in August? It's certainly a captivating one. It's definitely making a lot more people sit up on their seats about that May card, should I say. So we got to worry. We're back in about 15 minutes to, close this bad boy off. He is one of the most talked about

fighters between the UK and Ireland. It is Mr. Reese McKee who fights for the vacant Cage Warriors welterweight title on May 16th in Belfast, a Cage Warriors 115. There's a lot of talk about this man right now and even more talk since the

UFC announced their Dublin event for August 15th area this week. But it's been a long time, Reese. A lot has happened since the last time I was talking to you. How happy are you about this title shop first of all in Belfast? Yeah, I'm delighted. As you said, there's a lot happening

and a lot of been on at this time. So I'm excited by a lot of things right now, but I'm definitely happy to be in a good position and the position that I'm in. When did you find out that you would be getting the crack at that Welterway title? I think obviously when Ross had not far for quite a while,

I could often see it popping up in my notifications, people say, why isn't he fighting Reese? They should do the Reese v. Houston fight. Do you feel as though you're the natural selection there for when that fight was vacated, they were always going to put you in the mix there in the title at 170? Yeah, I kind of

believe they were trying to make the fight probably with Houston. I know I was in a position where I asked for the title fight after I beat Hackham Foss so I believe they were trying to make that. Obviously then the belt became vacant so my position still stood

and the title became vacant. So I believe I was always going to be fighting for the title on Belfast anyway. the fact of the spec and there's makes no real difference to me. Yeah, and I mean, they haven't got you an opponent yet, but I mean,

when I think about Cage Warriors' titles, I obviously think about that, that is what you get before you go to the UFC. There's obviously some great world-to-weight contenders there, but we've seen Ian Dean kind of drafting UFC veterans for these kind of things in the past, and it kind of, if you get the win

over the UFC veteran, that opens you up, you know, it makes, even underlines how ready you are for the UFC. We'll talk about UFC, and a bit, but just in terms of that kind of opponent, is that what you're looking for here? Yeah, absolutely. You know, like, at the start of a year,

I always like a few goals set. It's always been a goal of mine. It's actually been the goal the last two years to get a veteran, so I feel that this could be the fight where I get that veteran. I think it's just a, it's just a feather I want on my cap, so if I was to be able to get that favor for the title, and so be it,

bring a veteran over. In my opinion, I think that's what may happen. It happened for Jai Herbert, so why not? It seems like the announcement of the Dublin event, and this is only happening a week after they announced that you're going to be fighting for this title. I've said to you before, I feel like this is the time for Northern Ireland.

Look at the prospects you guys have up there yourself, Paul Hughes, Joe McCulligan, Decky McAleenan. I'm sure I'm forgetting some more people there. I always do this when I start ranting about things like this. But I feel as though even now, everybody's kind of saying, Paul Hughes, sorry, he's another guy. Everybody's kind of saying now, like, wow, this could be all of these guys. opportunities to get into UFC.

Of course, you are the frontrunner there, but I was just wondering, do you feel that kind of, do you feel that talk growing in Northern Ireland where you're from? Do you feel like that's added to the, to build up to this Cage Warriors event in Belfast? Yeah, Northern Irish MMAs

and is in a fantastic place. On a personal level, I like to keep my head focused on my own. You know, I like to kind of separate myself from the pack and just make sure, you know, because I don't want to be, I don't want to follow a pack, if I'm not the level, but I think at the minute I'm leading the pact.

So to be honest, I'm just focusing myself getting that call. They're all good lads. They're all guys that train with as well. So I've no doubt that they'll also get there. But for me, I want to get myself in the door first, and then I'll worry about the other stuff. We spoke to Graham Boylan recently, and we asked him, you know. He agrees with you and what you're saying about the Dublin card

adding to the interests around the Belfast card. but we specifically asked him if Reese McKee has an emphatic victory and he comes away with the title there where does that put him for this UFC Dublin card and he said you know it puts him right at the door he said he can't guarantee it seemed to me like he can't guarantee that the assigning would happen off the back of that but it does seem very likely and I know you've been in on data with people just tagging your name underneath that UFC Dublin announcement um you know do you feel like that should be enough like it's certainly feels as though you're the frontrunner right now, as you just said. Yeah, my phone blew up more for the USC Dublin announcement than the Belfast announcement, and that's me being truthful. The phone still hasn't stopped and people tagging me. Truth be told, Dublin's good timing. I feel with a win in Belfast and getting the title the way I plan to get it,

I believe it would have been my signing then, even if the UFC was in America where it is. I don't think the fact that it's in Dublin makes it. I don't think that would be the reason of me getting signed, so to speak. I think I would always have got signed anyway. So the fact that it is coming to Dublin definitely increases my chances. And it's exciting time. It absolutely is.

And 100% I will be at the door after this performance. I mean, this is crazy because we were talking about this just when you saw in for Cage Warriors in late 2018. Like, this is what you said you do. I'm going to go in there. I'm going to finish all these fights. I'm going to fight for the title. And then I'm going to the UFC.

This is playing out exactly how you're, imagined it or so it seems right now. Are you proud of that? The fact that you've set this goal and now you're kind of marching towards it, it feels like it's, you know, it's in touching distance now as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, absolutely. You know, Cage wires are a fantastic promotion that put this blueprint together. All you have to do is get in there, back it up and follow the path.

And, do you mean, it's been proven 94, 95 times what happens. So I believe I'll be next. But again, it's up to me now. I like stuff when it's in my control. and it's up to me to put whoever may be standing the cross from me in Belfast to put them away and really then there can be no there can be no other option but to say me I'll be 11 wins 11 finishes you know there's a lot of people in the promotion up top that don't have that stat so you can't argue that yes and that is something graham boylan said to us

as well like the difference between you and all these other guys is you're stopping all these people you know every time you get in there you're getting the finish but playing devil's advocate here Reese. The only thing I can see, maybe going against you here is the fact that you are the story of these Irish cards now. The fact that you're fighting for this title. Cage Warriors have made an effort to put on all

these events in Ireland now. But as I said earlier, there's Ian Gary here in Dublin. There's also a lot of talent, as we said earlier, up north. Do you feel as though if you go, if you do sign for the UFC, do you feel as though Cage Warriors

have enough clout here, enough names on the roster? here to keep the Irish fans captivate and coming to these shows. Yeah, I believe they do. You know, Joe and Ian and Paul live a few fights before Belfast. By that stage, they could be free fights on, you know, by the time Belfast comes back round

or any of the shows. So I definitely feel like once, like if I was to go, I definitely feel like they would be able to sell that show as well. You know, I don't think, I don't think I'm the bail and end of all of the cards just yet. As you said, Irish MMA. in a fantastic, strong place.

You know, does it feel as though, like, there's going to be, like, there's going to be so much pressure on you here. I know you've dealt with extreme pressure throughout your career already. I always talk about that Joy Herbert fight, but, I mean, this is like a countdown to May now where everyone's like, if Reese wins the title, I think he's going to go to UFC. I mean, that's a new pressure, right? That is a new kind of spotlight, right? You know what's even better, though?

When I was winning these fights, say it was free, four and O, and then I went seven and two or whatever the record was. People were kind of talking about it when it's thick. That was more pressure for me. Now that it's real and now that it is in touch and distance, it's something I frive off. I love that we're having this conversation that

it's so close. That means I'm doing something right. So yes, some people may look at it as pressure. I look at it as in my control and I'm going to do everything on my sixth team to make sure that I'm leaving with that built and with a good statement made to the UFC. So one man's pressure is a number

on it's kind of like a fire, you know, it'll definitely spur me on 100%. I just think it's the Irish fan base, North and South, I just excited to see new Irish faces in the UFC, right? It's been a long time since we've had guys regularly competing there. Of course, we still have Connor McGregor. We still have Joe Duffy there. But really, at one stage, I think we had like nine fighters in the UFC, so it felt like someone was nearly fighting every month.

Whereas now we're really starved at that. And I feel like that's going to drive a lot of people to this event on May 16th, right? Absolutely. Yeah, I was actually texting Joe Duffy this morning about the card coming to Dublin. So it'd be a fantastic time, like, you know, for Irish-N-A to really get another burst here and show the people in the world what we have over here. And what about for Rodney, right? Like, I mean, you never stop talking about your coach, Rodney Moore. He's one of your heroes. Of course, he's already had fighters in the U.S. with Norman Park back in the day. But I think this will mean something to him, even though he's a very cool, composed kind of guy. I think getting you there, having had you under his wing since your teenage years and then

getting to this huge Moylestone, I think that would mean a lot to him. Yeah, and, you know, second, it means a lot to me to do it for Rodney. Rodney's took, like, I know Norman, I think Norman had other coaches before Rodney, where I've been, Rodney's the only coach I've ever had for the last eight years. So I think for him, that's good. That will be a good thing for him to say, you know, we took race eight years on. He's in the UFC. Like, not many coaches can say that.

Definitely not in the country that I know of. So I'm all credit to the man. Like, if it wasn't for him, I definitely wouldn't be in this position. Yeah, you used to tell me, I think this is really cool. You watch his fights the now before your points, isn't that so cool? There's a fanboy moment, that, but it's not having a no shame on that. And anybody that's met Rodney knows he's an absolute gym. Which is your favorite Rodney Morfoy?

If you have to tell maybe people who haven't got to see his votes over the years, which one would you tell them to watch? he fought a guy Tom Haddock and it's in a place actually close to where we live in the elk and his tan is absolutely horrendous but that's the fight

that's definitely the fight I've been telling people to watch yeah I talk to run there a lot with that fight actually just about the tan lines or the technique tan first technique second as always as always yeah I got to ask you

like just just if you had it all your way here. I know you're not a going to call people out though. Is there anyone that would be an ideal matchup? Like, if you could pick anyone to fight at this Belfast card, is there anyone that you would really love to fight or are you happy to just, whoever it is for the title?

I'm happy enough for the title. I don't care who it is. I really wish I could give you an answer. I wish so I would love someone who literally their last fight was in the UFC and this is their first fight. I would love to be someone's first fight post UFC. That'd be great. If not, one of the top contenders

I know there's two fighting here in March Proctor and your guy if Matters is fighting, I don't know, saying him. One of them, listen, I really don't care. I'm in a position now where whoever they send me, I'm not going to say no. So to waste time and call someone out would be stupid. It's just whoever. Whoever is in a winning position and in a position to make the win even better than so be it. That's who it will be. tell me how it feels

in your heart of hearts do you believe that a victory and a title capture in Belfast gets you onto that Dublin card because I know a lot of Irish fans really want to see that 100% I believe this is the time I don't believe there's ever it's ever lined up just as sweet

as this and this will be an absolute perfect standoff for me Belfast is my standoff party and I believe the new party I'll start in Dublin in my opinion if not then I'll get there eventually but I think the time is now. Woo!

I'm very, very excited about this, Reese. You're pumped. I am, man. The return of cage where is this island has really excited everyone, I think, and this development is, of course, knocked us all for six. So really looking forward to seeing how this goes. We'll all be up there in May, and I guess the buzz will continue to grow, my friend. Absolutely, absolutely well.

All right, if you need anyone up for sparring sessions around, don't be afraid to give me a shout, Reese, all right? I'll remember that. Thanks very much, Matt. Cheers. Bye, bye. Great to hear from Rees McKee. A big, big fight coming in his way in May.

He seems primmed and propped for it. But it's a big one. It's the biggest one of his life, without a doubt, isn't it? Easily. Yeah, I think everything that's potentially on the line for Reese in 2020, and I think he sort of said that, you know, to you there, if he's not in the UFC within the year, he won't be too happy about it.

So a lot of pressure on himself. But yeah, it's easily the biggest mound of his career. But I think Reese has to remember as well. He's only a young lot. Yes, absolutely, absolutely. So, yeah, that was a big bumper episode again. Yeah. Three big interviews in the can.

Lots of talking points this week as well. Yeah, there really is, man. It feels like it's going to be a mad sprint now until August. There's going to be so many stories. We're only in February. I think people are forgetting that. A lot can happen. So much can happen.

happen but you know I wanted to ask you and I didn't get a chance earlier on when we were I was sort of talking shit about Valentin and um you know probably won't come to fruition but but what you know have you got an thing you particularly think could be um a main event for for the Irish fans I'm not like my heart's not like completely confident about it but I imagine Gunnar and Ellison will have to be on this card right like I mean yeah definitely like is he in a situation to main event a card though Let's be honest, like, I mean, he's coming off two losses, Leon Edwards and Gilbert Burns. I mean, can you put him in a main event situation there?

No. I saw a good pal, Sean Sheehan from Severey on May talking about the possibility of a Gunner v. Wonderboy. But I just feel like Wonderboy came across Liverpool and was disgusted with the decision that happened. I feel like it's going to be a big ass to get him back over here. But even, yeah, I think does Gunner and Wonderboy make sense for Wonderboy? But maybe if Gunner got back to winning ways, maybe, but I don't know. Like, I mean, what about Joe Duffy? Where is he at?

Yeah, well, that's sort of interesting. I know Joe's sort of, you know, I've been in touch with him. He's interested in getting on the card anyway. I think definitely he wants to fight there after what happened in 2016, I believe, or 2015, I believe it was. But, boy, so yeah, Joe's going to be a fixture, whether, again, you know, I don't think Joe's going to be in a position to the main event. card at this point from what's gone on his last number of fights but you know obviously a fan

favorite a guy people really really like no-brainer not to have him on the card i can see him both him and gunner having prominent main card spots and straight away that's an intriguing card right like if you have gunner nelson and josephi on i think that's a huge deal and it's enough the ufccd do but maybe you know if paul wins on sardy night maybe paul and justin gaecie or something maybe it's too much for a big fight here whoa hang on a second if someone's trying to pitch their their reasons why they should fight Connor McGregor. That's my whole point and have Connor sitting cage, so it was better go on to us.

That is a great show, man. So, like, they're in that position now. Nate Diaz v. Habib. That's what I think it's going to be. Well, I reckon they're going to be McGregor to Habib, so I think you're at Y the mark. But listen, I think that is a fight, whether they do it.

It does make a lot of sense in terms of, you know, you've Connor sitting cage, so I know Paul's had the beef with Connor. Justin's had the beef with Connor. this stuff that's getting behind Paul Felder now if you get to win. He's there thereabouts for this big, big sort of payday fight if you get to win. But listen, he's to get over, Dan Hooker first. It's a long, long, long way away.

But, you know, Irish drag and all that. I know Paul will be here definitely regardless. But that would be a cracking fight, man. Imagine Gajian fucking him thrown down. Yeah, absolutely. It's just very hard to tell from here, isn't it? Like, there's nothing really jumping out from, unless they went with the

women's thing and it's not really jumping out though yeah it's not nothing's you're dead right nothing's jumping out and I think we'll I think a number of situations have to sort of play out before we can hands down say what's there all right but let's have a bit of crack here

yeah right say we don't know who Reese is gonna fight in May say he wins he gets it goes exactly the way he wants he knocks it do it out who would you like to see Reese McKee fighting in his debut Jesus fucking Christ that's a tough one you know it'd be interesting to see

if they, you know, would they leave Rees at Welterweight? Would he say, would he be signed as a Welterweight? Yeah, I think he will with the weight, Cuddy. I've sat him at one before. But he's going to be like a welterweight champion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jeez, man, I don't know.

There's so many names in that division. Obviously, it would be someone, you know, probably outside the top 15. And nothing really springs to mind the moment. Have you, aren't they? Yes, one. Only one person. And, of course, a lot has to happen

before this could go down. Nicholas Dalby. I wasn't going to go there. But from the same neck of the wood, Woods before Reese for Hackin' Foss, Emil Meek showed up in his comments saying something about like he was going to die or something

in the fight. I remember that. That's a good shout, man. I mean, Emil is on two loss at the moment. He's fighting this weekend against Jake Matthews. That's a good shout. I mean, that's a good fight. I remember he said that now that you said that. So that's really interesting and Reese

didn't take too kindly to that. Straight off the bat, there's this, you know, storyline, a little bit of narrative there that could, you know, interest Sean Shelby and Mick Maynard to get behind that. Listen, Reese has a lot of stuff to do as well, but before we can start

talking about that point. But like, I feel as though, like, Hughes, McCalligan, Gary, all these guys are in situations where everyone, like, they're already got great fan bases. Yeah, definitely. And, you know, we even saw McCalligan when he was trying to get the Paddy fight,

the amount of people just badger and Patty all the time about it and he starts tagging on a couple of wins here he gets himself to the way eight and two maybe before the ufc come there's gonna be big calls as you said earlier to get him on yeah and um gary's got so much hype man he's a ridiculous amount of hype i think his situation reminds me of reases when he was like five and oh when the uc came to belfast and maybe carl more when the uc came the bell last year i think he was about seven and one and i think ean's going to be in one those situations where there's going to be a lot of people calling for it. But even if it doesn't happen, that's going to add so much intrigue to his eventual climb

there. So I feel like this is one of those situations where you're going to see some lads getting a bit and see when the date's getting closer. But they can't sign everyone. We need to be realistic about this. 100%. One or two would be mental. Yeah.

I think that's the... That would double our numbers in the UFC if we got two guys. That's, I think, all realistically we can hope for like now. what we're, you know, sort of dealing with at the moment. Still, that's a long way away. That's three fights, three very, very hard and competitive fights that these guys have to overcome. And let's be honest, P.T., they have to overcome them pretty emphatically and impressively as well. You know, the UFC just don't go out and sign anyone anymore.

It's become, you know, the roster has been too big. It's tough to get into the UFC, very, very, very tough. So, like, there's a lot of pressure on Joe and on Reese to make a fucking statement. And Paul Hughes and all these guys. Like, I mean, it's. But I think, yeah, you know, you look at Paul, you look at Ian, obviously it's going to be great traction for them, as you said there, with all the talk, all the hype, all the expectations. But it just might be a little bit too soon for them. It might, yeah.

No, absolutely it could be. But just, just I was kind of more saying, like, even if it is too soon, the fact that people will be clamouring for it will be, will be, will be huge. It'll push them on like we saw with, you know, the first sort of invasion where, you know, people were hounding feck and Dana White and social media stuff. sign this guy, sign this guy. But we don't have the guy there. We don't have that same catalyst. Exactly. We don't, but people will be talking.

You know, we've seen this week how much of an event and how excited people are with the UFC being back in town. And it's just good for the sport. Like, it's been a great week. Really, after just having those shitty dark days of, you know, not having any fucking pro shows to go to here in the country. Do they have to do something, not big? They aren't going to do something big,

but do they have to do something impressive, basically to basically show Bellator like this is we're the big dogs or do they even care? I don't think they care. Like, because I think they know they are as we said earlier on. Like we look at, you know, the traction from, you know, even the announcement there,

the other day thing was what Thursday it was. And people have just forgot about Bellator card this week. That's no disrespect to Bellator. It's just the way it is. It's just the landscape of mixed martial arts. Certainly from Friday to Wednesday Monday, the talk is very much been using U.S. Do one.

But I do like, I feel like we're, always here at the start of the week going like, oh, there's no buzz and it will. I saw Jerry McCarty from K-O Media tweeting out that there's only 10% of the tickets are left. That's going to be a big attended event. So I do feel as though

that's going to take precedent again. But I feel as though the problem I've always had with the Belator cards is the lack of consistency between the Thursday. There's no contingency. There's no storylines being developed from card to card. And right now, the UFC only have one date here. But

the Cage Warriors cards are actually going to generate the interest for them. You know what I mean? Because of we're looking at possibly one or two guys who might be on that card, I feel as though that works for them. It works for both them, you know, Dave, the platform and UFC fight pass as well, where they can just go tune in here and watch

these fights. It's all good things for UFC's, you know, platform that people are going to subscribe, maybe that mightn't have subscribed before as well and jump on board and watch these fights and get excited. It's almost like a semi-final sort of event. Yeah, I do. I agree with that. To get into the UFC.

So, yeah, I think the UFC are the big dogs. And, you know, maybe they might do something similar to what they did, you know, in Liverpool a couple of years ago when Darren fought Wonderboy. That was a fantastic card. There was a good card. We saw the London card last year. I believe it was. It was excellently matched up cards.

So, like, man, as well, you have to remember. And it even sort of came out when, you know, the announcement was made on Thursday. The amount of people calling to fight in Dublin. It's one of the sort of bucket moment lists for fighters. so I just hope we get a really competitive card that's all I'm really asking for and I'm fucking excited I am definitely it's great to have a fight

you know the UFC back in your home yard as well and you're covering it it's nice not to absolutely yeah but I mean one thing I haven't heard you saying which I really thought I would hear from you is you know are you going to fight Jose Young's on this card

like yeah I mean it's it's done I don't even know who that guy is but yeah I don't even sorry you just I'm probably didn't delete that his name sorry who Jose Youngs he's from Westmead Don't mention that name and I Just call him that

That handsome boy From MMA fighting that isn't Peter Carroll Yeah I saw it Who was just put a picture Andy Stevens And he was I forgot about that That was disturbing That ruined my weekend

He's looked great Did he just not patched up there Whatever beaches around that weekend He tried to but I gave him the old B word And he was there Went running back to his little man cave What's a B word Beach

Oh my God So Oh no I know Listen Should we see what happens If the fans want it If the people want it

And you know If that little That wants to come over And fight in my backyard We can do that But The fields of West Meath Against the mansions of South Dublin

He won't want to fight here I've too many It's too intimidating for a meal You know you won't even make it out of the airport I think we've established that And people have actually come on Twitter And said that

You will not make it out of the airport So Jesus Christ Figure that bit Oh my God. I'm dropping B words left right and center here in Omaha. That's all banter in it.

But right, well, that's all we've got. We're going to try and work on the Youngs v. McGrath fight. We're going to continue to speculate. The question is, are you excited, Peter? About what? About everything that's going on in the last week. I'm not, no. Like, I mean, I'm excited about USC Dublin coming back.

I'm excited to see. I really hope that we get at least one Irish signing on the card. I feel like that would be massively deflating if we didn't. So I feel like that's something I'm kind of. worried about a little bit like will we get someone um and look i i just hope they come correct and they hope they they give us a good card um it's just you know we we had nine people in the ufc a couple years ago it just feels like it's a lot has changed since then but um look would they dare bring the goat back to which one artem oh my god i saw that like i mean artem doesn't have an m m mhm

contract at the moment does he so i mean maybe i mean there's no doubt that the guy is um a huge huge draw. I mean, you only have to look at that Malinaji fight to realize how much interest he can compel. Yeah, maybe. I mean, it's got to be a good deal. I mean, there's obviously a reason why he left in the first place, so I don't really know. I really don't know. Okay, right,

let's just do it for the crack, right? Just to end out the show, right? I'll say a main event for Dublin, you say a main event, and we'll look back in seven months time and just for the crack to see it. Go on. I can't even pink, like. Okay, well, I'll go Gaechie Feller. There you go. That's wild. That is wilds. I know, but fuck it. Like, you know. If we're going

wild, I'll go um, I'll go Valentina v. Jojo Calderwood. Oh, there we have it. But I don't think Valentina's going to sit out until fucking August. Like, she might fight someone else. She won't. Joejo's the fight to make. Yeah. Molly. Molly, Valentina. Like, Molly

might be there. Like, I mean, who else can argue with that streak if she's on four-foy win streak? Like, I mean... Let's wrap it up. Fuck this. I want to get out of here. Love his loads, lads. Kisses. Thank you.