MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 71 (w/ Royce Gracie, Brian Moore, Cal Ellenor)

Episode Date: February 25, 2020

On the latest episode of Eurobash, the legendary Royce Gracie (13:30) briefly joins the podcast to discuss the Irish fans and James Gallagher. Brian Moore (42:00) throws his name in the hat to be the next SBG fighter to challenge Ricky Bandejas and Cal Ellenor (59:00) discusses the changing dynamic between him and Gallagher ahead of their clash at Bellator London. Hosts Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath look at the latest news in European MMA.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's episode 71 of Eurobash and we've had a very, very busy, busy week with the Bellator Dublin show going down. We're pretty exhausted. We went out yesterday and we blew off some steam, didn't we know? And today we're a bit worse for wear, lads. We did. We blew up a bit of steam watching that shot. Yeah, the rugby was on yesterday, Ireland v England. We'll get to that at the end.

But it was one of those weeks where you needed to unwind a bit, let's say. Yeah, after, man. Those weeks left you drive you fucking man. had those five weeks, just constantly on the go, constantly on your feet, constantly talking shite. That pertains to me more than most. It is, yeah, but they're always fun on. I love them. It was great to see everyone in flying form as well.

Yeah, absolutely. It was a long old day of fights. We will get to the talking points from Belator, Dublin, in a few minutes. But first, let's have a look at the headlines for this week. Valentina Shevchenko will take on Joanne Calderwood. They're going to meet at UFC 2.5. 5-1 on June 6th. Alexander Rackage has signed a new deal with the UFC coming off that lost of Vulcan Usdimir.

Jack Harmanson will be back in action against Chris Wydenman in Oklahoma on May 2nd. I really like that fight. Eric Spoisley be Roman Copiloff. One of my prospects to watch in 2019 goes down on March 28th. Aherd Copphe Lov was injured ahead of his debut. He obviously lost that. That was a big shock to me, so interesting to see him in there against Spicely. Eric Anders is going to take on Christoph Jocko on April 11th.

Yeah boy. Yeah boy. Gallowher v Eleanor has been rebooked for the Bellator London main event in May. James Haskell will also make his debut on that same card, the rugby, the English rugby legend. Ross Houston has also penned the deal with Bellator. Paddy Pimden has got a new opponent for Cage Warriors, London he now takes on David Martinez. Donovan Desmey has had to withdraw from that fight.

That's the third time Donovan and Pimlet has fallen out. Morgan Shari will take on Darco Banovic for the interim Weatherway title at that London event in March. and Ares continued to sign UFC veterans Wilson Hayes signing on the dotted line for the Afro-European promotion now that was a lot of headlines

I feel like I did a good job keeping myself on top of the news there You did especially with the date of thin it as well being a Monday Yeah horrific It is, yeah, it's after a tough week Yeah I love the Chris Wybin, Hermanson fight

I really like that, yeah Really looking forward to that one And we got Shevchenko and Collier, which what we were calling for, well, I mean, Shevchango made it pretty clear on this show that she was going to fight Collewood. I mean, when we asked about the three names, she just went in on Colorado. Like, not went in, very respectful, of course,

but it seemed pretty obvious from there. Gallagher and Eleanor rebooked for May as well. Yeah, it's great. You see, it's happening. Yeah, very impressed with that fight. I think we were obviously, you know, it was a bit of a knock on effect for last week. Yes, absolutely. We'll talk about that later as well. But, yeah, yeah, huge fight.

On a really good card as well, like, there seems to be adding a knock on a lot of, some big names of that including James Haskell as you said. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Will we have a chat about Bellator Dublin? There's a lot to unpack because there was 75 fights on the card. 60. Yeah, let's have a look.

Big win for Liam McCart in the main event. She was put centre stage in the absence of Galaher and Eleanor. She revealed to us afterwards the orbital injury she suffered in the lead up to the fight. I actually didn't know she injured her orbital. I just thought she had a black eye. That was the question I asked her. Oh yeah, I just didn't even take it. I took over a pinch of size

I thought it was a sparring. Yeah, yeah, I didn't realize it was a big deal. Obviously, the weight cut then as well what she was saying, cutting her hair off and stuff. Like, I mean, she went fucking ham to get that scales right and fair plate to her.

We were talking about the emotion that she showed when she weighed in. And then, of course, did you see the video she puts out the day of Molly McCran lift through spirits? Molly's great, isn't she? Oh, come on, man. She's gold.

She's great crack. She was a bantin with everyone last week around the place full of life, full of energy, really good crack. She looks really trim now, doesn't she? all the time. She does. She looks ripped. I think she's done that. I think she's obviously looking off. Professional athlete, you know.

Looking out what she eats for and stuff like that now. And, you know, she's obviously doesn't have to work full time anymore either. So, yeah, it's a big plus thing. A lot of fighters are like that, which is, it's great to see. I think Molly really helped Leah in the push for this as well because, you know, as I said, we did some interviews with Molly ahead of this fight, of course, and with Leah.

And the fact that Molly had been in this situation with Cage Warriors before, I think that would have really allowed her to, like, ease her mind. you know, as in like, she's a calming, a calming influence almost on Leah, and you see that, you know, Leah's always reaching out to her

for advice, we see that on social media a lot. She talks about, you know, did she even say it on Eurobache that she spoke to Molly about, even the headline as you're saying there,

and, you know, it is, when you've someone like that as sort of a mentor, like figure, it's very calming and reassuring and obviously lots of fighters are like that in the gym,

you know, you know, obviously with your coach as well, it's that sort of relationship. It's almost like a life coach, many sort of ways. Absolutely. Like me to Jose Young's.

Very good. Very well done. Leah, of course, was involved in that main card. And, you know, we've got to address the criticism. The main card got, after so many people saying, this fight should be on, this fight should be on. Look, it's Bellator who put those fights on. It's Bellator who will have to take the rap for that. I mean, from Chalmers against Clem, maybe a less explosive fight from Charlie Ward.

But he was very happy with that performance. that was probably the best fight out of that main card, the three-fight main card, Belator, Douglas. And then, of course, Leah in the main event. What do you think of the complaints? Are they well-founded? Yeah. Like, just look at the fights alone.

You know, I think we even said it, especially the Austin Clem and Aaron Charmer's fight. There wasn't an awful lot going on. And, you know, maybe the referee at times could have stood them up. There didn't seem to be a lot of activity. He let it roll. And I know sometimes we criticised referees for standing up, but I think this was a case where, you know,

there wasn't a lot of activity from Clem when he was at one on top of Charmers. They just weren't fight. that really got, I think, the pulse racing even before they were announced, if we're honest about it. And I think we saw that in fight, and I, you know, it didn't really come through. And, you know, we mentioned it. And we're probably justified in mention of what we said about Paul Redmond and George Caraccan. And that fight really delivered, you know, really, really close first round. Carracking got the finish.

And obviously, as well, I think the side story that was actually fascinating. His wife was actually giving birth while he was in the cage, which was absolutely insane. But they're the fights that should have been positioned higher up. And I think we were justified in what we said. end the buildup because listen they were they were pretty stale fights yeah and look like the thing about redmond is him and crosbie without a doubt for me got the biggest ovations of the night maybe lee in the main event too when she was coming out there was a big there was big fanfare but the the arena wasn't as full as it was when uh keifer and redmond were in there looked they're both

north dublin lads yeah um massive reception keifer got man yeah he did he got a huge look um absolutely huge and Redmond did as well look it didn't go Paul's way and you know that was a very high stakes fight against a guy he's been in there with the very best in the world and look I thought Redsers hands looked really good early on really good in the first time I feel like you know the Georgie landed a great shot before he locked up that guillotine and I don't think that guillotine submits Paul Redmond if he's in his full faculties I think

that punch probably yeah he's got him off look he's one of the best fighters in Ireland um easily and he's in there fighting the best guys in the world I don't know what else you have to do to get in a good place on the card but look we've been banging our heads off a wall about that for a long time another storyline that emerged and you were all over it in fairness

Ricky Band-Dais Brian Moore and we're going to hear from Brian later and Patchy Mix all involved there I feel like I love Patchy Mix I think he's incredible but if I'm Bellator I'm going Band-Ayes more all fucking day man

yeah yeah you have to I think with just even you know Brian came over lovely guy he is the nicest man he's just great lad How could you fight that guy? I don't know. His has a bit of a thing for him. I'm not going to lie.

But he is. He's an absolute gentleman. Brian's a bloody legend in my eyes. Love the guy. Came over. Big hug, said hello. And I didn't realize until he'd said it to me. So which I was checked Twitter.

So it was going on. Pachi Mick said he loved to throw down against him. Then obviously he was saying about, you know, Ricky Bandagias, you called him out. And yeah, like in terms of a marketing sense and a marketing point of view, it's a fucking no-brainer. And what do we keep saying? Ricky Bandaias, they need a marketing plan.

They need some stuff. He just generates him there. And look, we talk to it more about this later on. Now Moore is very complimentary of Bellator. You should put Bond-Aidson against every fucking SPG fighter they can. Because it put fucking eye. People are generally fucking interested to see this shit. And Baddeus is buzzing off at backstage.

You can feel like the questions about SPG. He was loving answering all that stuff. I think we have to address that as well in terms of the marketing thing we were saying. Because we spoke to fighters last week. And Chris Bungard said it straight to me in the interview. You can go fucking check it. Bellator aren't doing a good enough job in marketing their fighters or creating these narratives.

So, um, look, wait, we'll be here for more later on. Try and tell me after you listen to Brian more later on that you don't want that fight. But also, I felt like, I love the fact that Kiefer comes out and calls out Sauram back.

I was like, this is exactly what we've been waiting for, man. He just had a kid. Yeah. I thought he'd be chilled out. You know what I mean? He was going mental. I've never seen Kiefer on angry. I love the way he buzzes.

Like, he goes out of us hard. He's fucking scared me. I'd to leave after the question. just turn off my camera, I'm fucking out of here in case he fucking jumps at me. He did it to me last time as well. I just think he's full of adrenaline after being in there. I mean, even though it was like maybe two hours after the fire, when he got to talk to him.

He'd to go over shower and stuff. Yeah. Look, could you imagine that week? Yeah. Yeah. And put him on a, you know, with James' undercard or something like that. Yeah, yeah. You know, they always seem to buzz off each other as well in fight week.

And that's, you know, when you see that, I think it's a no brainer for the promotion to do it. And obviously the lads in the gym, but listen, massively looking forward, as I said, to, and James again. I just can't wait to see that fight. I think we're even want it more now. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm trying to say.

Like, you cut me off there. Sorry, when I was initially talking about that, which are Satanic rant. But when that was first book, the people didn't know Carl is. And now everybody knows who Cal is. Like, Carl is a guy and you can feel the UK fans getting behind him.

Even he says that the Irish fans are even behind him based on what he, well, he heard this week. We heard James talking about it last week. So I think this is really, really getting people into it. And I can't wait for it. But what about Will Flurry?

great performance and then he comes back out anyone who won't fight Will this fella is going out and calling out the hardest fights there who does he call out Fabian Edwards I'm mad nobody wants to go near at the moment I've got nothing but respect for that yeah I think you said it to him you know he's a guy

that doesn't ever back down or back away from fighting he's always talk on the best guy he's available to him and you know fair folks to him really like well good dude and great great performance from him I thought as well like I was really impressed with the opening sequence against more he dropped them I thought it was a right hand he told me in the

post fight. It was actually a left. Very quick hands there in that opening exchange and more nearly cascaded forward and I felt from there on he was constantly chasing it. But another little storyline that broke off backstage is Dylan Logan. He had a great fight on the night. But he actually made, he was trying to make

his next contest. He came away with a loss. Great grappling match. Jesus, it slips my mind who is actually fighting. Now, Jesus, let me find that. Let me find it. Callum Murray from Scotland. Great ground battle there. But after the fight, Dylan's backstage making fun. I think it was Harry Hardwick or someone, he ended up getting, he ended up kind of teasing out that fight.

And then he goes to the matchmaker. Like, I mean, what more do you want from a fighter? I really like Dylan, actually. He's a great lad. But also just want to say a big thanks to the PHA guys for getting us through to week. We know these people a long time from the UFC days and stuff. So great to see.

Dan Apostolos, I said it right this time, Dan. Your second name is not Apple Stalus. That is my fault. I'm very sorry. Katie Matthews, Dan Funston. And of course, Belator's running Garab for getting us all those great media access. I called Ryan Dan by accident. Yeah.

I don't think you like that. But they're all great skins. They are. Big shout out, yeah. Now, are you ready for this? Go. We only snared the biggest interview in MMA while we were there with Mr. Oh, yeah.

Hoys Gracie. The legend. This interview is an astonishing 90 seconds on. But we couldn't put, we could not. we couldn't just do this and not have him on Eurobash. We just want to have that in the title there. Look, he actually would have stayed longer, but Kiefer's voice was starting,

and he got really excited. He was like, oh, I've got to go, I got to go. He just ran away, basically. So Kiever Krosby would be happy to hear that. We got a very brief word with him, but it is cool to hear hoise, big up the Irish, bigging up James Galaher.

And I'm sorry I didn't get longer, but I was waiting behind some lads and Jesus Christ, they're asking what his favorite cheese was, I think, for folks like, I was there for. Yeah, so look, great to speak to the legendary Hoise Gracie. A man who seems to love Ireland, like love being here. And he's constantly buzzing around with the Bellator staff and stuff. It seems like he really enjoys being a part of the promotion. Do you not come here for a seminar with you? Look, no comment. No comment. Let's hear from the great Hoise Gracie, the winner of all those early UFC events in his kimono. What a legendary man. And great to speak to him. I think he really likes me. It's an honor to be joined by the great Hoyce Gracie. Hoise.

Every time I see you here, you always rave about the fantastic fans. Can you tell me what it's like for you to come here and see the fan base in Ireland? How does it make you feel? Man, if wasn't for the cold weather, this would be an awesome place, man. I agree. The crowd, the food, everybody, man, everything is good, man. You know, very early in his career, James Galler told me that you had a conversation with him that made him feel completely comfortable being here, being Bellator,

And of course he's gone on to be this huge star. How impressed are you with James? He got a lot of talent. He's just, he got discipline too. You see, so he's not just being a talent fighter, but you have to have discipline to get up and do what you got to do. You know, he got injured for this event. Have you been able to talk to him?

I know he's floating around the event today. Have you seen him at all? We talk a little bit about it, yes. But it's okay. Hey, I understand. You get hurt, you get hurt. There's nothing you can do about it. He's so young, Hoise. Do you ever see James being a world champion?

Like, do you think a Bellator World title is in his future? Everyone has a chance. It's just to be the world champion. You just gotta have the right mind in place. When you're here at these events, final question? When you're here at these events, do you ever want to get back in the cage yourself and compete? No, I'm too old for this, man, come on. You look fantastic, thank you so much. Thank you.

Thank you. Now, of course, what an epic interview there with Hoise Grace. the best 90 seconds of Eurobash ever. The best 90 seconds of your life beat. Yeah, Kiefer, we could have got at least four minutes out of him if you were started. But let's talk about Kever Foy because it seemed like a lot of people

on Press Row were scoring it for Tado. I was kind of, I didn't get to watch the whole lot of it. I felt like it was a very exciting fight though because everybody was in there. It felt like the crowd were really involved. And the lads were lettering each other. I mean, some of those kicks,

Furtado was trying, were unbelievable. Inside leg kicks and kicks to the body, man, there was serious, told off them. Absolutely. Like,

people seem to be surprised by the decision. So I kind of went in and I spoke some judges. I spoke to Ben Carlete on the night as well. And he was like, look,

I think he had it for Furtado, but he was like a 29, 28 for Kiefer isn't out of question at all there. You know what I mean? It's, he had a late rally in the third round and the crowd were really surging behind him.

So I don't, I don't think it was a robbery by any stretch, but I certainly felt like a lot of people were scoring it. I had a 29, 28 for for Tato as well. I thought, you know, those kicks did a lot of damage. It seemed to be more active

in the front foot. I can understand. You know, if Ben's saying it, I wouldn't mind watching it back. Yeah, I don't want to comment on this because I was popping me head up. Yeah, you know, we're always up and down all over the place on fighting out. But, yeah, I did.

You know, watching it, I was going, I, I generally thought Kiever lost the fight. I didn't have a clue, to be honest. I was sure I was backstage and all when they called out the result. But Smullen as well was, you know, he lost a split decision there. And I was saying this to Ben kind of, I think, I think when you, for the criteria, I think even though Richie was probably dominating on the ground an awful lot, I feel like they need, they want you to add a lot more strikes.

Like they want you to use that dominant position to get to, to nail down that score in the round. I'd have, again, I'd have to have a look at Richie's fight. I was running around like a blue arse floy. But what about, I forgot to mention this, Charlie Ward's backstage interview after his win. Savage. Like, it's interesting, right? Because I was talking to Kieran Davern, he's like, this is the first time Charlie's ever been actually like, and you could see that he wasn't tired in the third round. He wasn't tired when he came out to us. No, he did a lot of grappling as well in that fight. Usually he's obviously known for his punching power. But I don't know why he doesn't put himself in the front of the cameras more man he is magic oh it was golden i've been fighting lads

and fields i'm a real fighter that's the difference yeah they're not real fighters i shouldn't said that about 50 cents you're a legend charlie he was brilliant absolutely golden i literally walked up to him afterwards i said please do more interviews charlie you're you're you're light up my day when you get in front of the cameras at these things he's deadly he is he's you know he's excellent and uh you know uh i think it's good for charlie as well that he was tested out in other areas you know for going forward that he was he was on his ars a bit in the fight as well and um yeah he's He's just a great guy. He's a very marketable guy. And I just don't think he fucking, is he aroused doing them?

I don't know what he's arced or he's a bit shy or what. I don't know. I just think he probably thinks it's a waste of time. Yeah. It's like trying to break a wild horse out there, interviewing Charlie Ward sometimes. So it's amazing when it happens. I just hope he keeps doing it for us. It's a rare treat, but I think. It's a rare treat.

Yeah, it is. It was great to see him come out and have a Nara with us. But, you know, you don't get it every day of the week. Normally he says he'll come out and he won't show up. We're all waiting there all night. Yeah. It was great. but yeah, no, Charlie's Charlie's fucking hilarious.

What does Redmond do from here? He's gone in against Carcannion, a guy who was one of the best in Bellator, obviously fought for the featherweight title before he's moved up to 55 now. And I thought he looked very good at 55. And even Redmond said it before the fight, Reds was saying to us, like, I think this is an advantage for him.

Coming up to this new weight class for the first time he's going to have an extra bit in his gas tank. You know, and look, to submit Paul Redmond, this is no easy feat. My God, it really isn't. Definitely. I mean, I've watched that guy competing Polaris events. Black Belt.

He's unbelievable. Look at the trow he landed on, Carcannion earlier on. Beautiful bit of technique. Jeez, that was a brilliant. Was it judo throw? Yeah, but I guess I was surprised when he landed in side control. And Carcanion managed to get up quite quickly.

Like, I don't think Redmond's a hard, like, I mean, I think it's a very difficult thing to get up from underneath Redmond. So that was, that was puzzling to sea. Of course, manager Paul Fogarty was over talking to us. We actually missed the end of that. Thanks very much, Paul. Did Paul have a bad way cut this week? because he wasn't in the best of form

at the immediate day either I noticed. I just don't think he likes you that much. No, I don't know. We are going to find out what happened there, but I don't want to be... Yeah, yeah, you know, just just wondering, like, because I know Chris Bungard was, I think he said he'd food poisoning

you know, this week coming into the fight. Bungard v. Bungard v. Primus was good, man, very impressive. Yeah, but Bungard v. Redmond in the future. Yeah, why not? I don't mind that fight. Yeah, I'm hearing, I don't know I don't know who the opponent is or whatever,

but I'm hearing that Quili's already booked. Could be potentially booked for that Bellator or London fight. Did you're an appellant now? No, but I don't think it's someone he's been match with before, based on what I've heard. It could be wrong. Unless, you know, I think that beef doesn't really go away either. No. Quili and Bungard after the week that's just gone.

Very sort of interesting comments from Chris Bungard. I'd even like to see, like, I mean, if Kiefer's talking about 55, sorry him back, I'd look to see Kiefer. Yeah, well, Kiefer, yeah, interesting he said that, that he said. he's definitely going fighting at 155 now and he looked great at 160

like he was ripped man and that's what the week he had making that fucking weight like yeah no fair play to him yeah definitely but I think it'd be great now to see Kiefer you know have a home

at 155 pounds and match up those interject himself in those conversations conversations yeah I'd like to see Redmond be Kiever I don't think it'll ever happen

but I mean if he's that'd be a great fight wouldn't I? If Kiefer's going towards like the Sarmam backs of the world I mean Redmond's right there

yeah like I mean and for an Irish card that would be fucking wild I think the lads get on very well. They probably have that at the start of the night, though. I think. I'm going to take the piss, obviously. No, do they get on well, yeah.

They probably do. Ah, yeah, I think so. Like, I mean, I understand. It's Team Rhino, VSBG. You know. Meets you're starting up hot here. Yeah, listen, fucking leave me. I just like to see them fight each other.

It's not know what they do for a living. No, we have to, I have to mention that if we think it's a fight that would create an interest in fucking hell it would. Yeah, I think it definitely would. What about Encom spinning kick Louis Long? Jesus, that was hard. We were sitting there Louisville Long's family there and it was like literally

went from screaming to dead silence. Yeah, it was tough. You know what it is? When you see that and I think we need to mention that this week as well and we know we know these guys for years and it's just sort of it's tough to watch when their family are sitting cage side sometimes and so emotional.

Yeah, it's a, I think that was one of those mom was there with Encamp certainly like because Liu Long is a savage. He's a veteran of a sport in Europe and he's had that moment like that before with Solich and you know I thought Encamp was absolutely going to have his handful on the night

so did I. So I'm very impressed with his win Don't get me wrong that's the way this sport is unfortunately but yeah shocking like you know wow Beck Rawlings added a lot to the car this week as well didn't she?

Yeah. Like I mean she was people are genuinely interested in her over here like I mean I know her record she had a losing record she still does after her wind year or night but as Bellator of told us before. This is an entertainment thing and

she seems to fit right into that curve there and she seems very happy with them. I think people have always taken an interest in Beck. Because of her story obviously, the domestic abuse. You know, she was on the ultimate fighter. That ultimate fighter and she's very unique looking. Like she's got her own her own image. I spoke to her

a lot this week about how marketable she's made herself, she's made herself a real brand. So I completely agree with you did. But I didn't think she was going to have that much of an impact. Yeah, you don't see it a lot of the times until they're actually in your face. I think her videos did more than anyone's for us, and I'm in my fighting this weekend anyway, that's

incredible. Yeah, and I think a lot of the guys, you know, she's a good look, a lot of people fancier. Yeah. But it's just, it's true, like, um, so yeah, no, she's just, she's good. And I tell you what, she's, um, she seems motivated now as well. And I think maybe she was, she was missing

that for a while, you know, in the UFC. It didn't go her way. You know, she went to bare knuckle boxing. And I think maybe, I think that's like Arretem there. I think with that she was very like Aritin, with that Bernickel situation in that she showed her value through going there because she made this a thing. I think her and Artem, people like

that were really the catalysts behind that becoming a big thing. And I think it made her realize how much she actually loves mixed martial arts as well doing the BKB because she even said, I missed so many elements of it and that hunger's back. That's what it seems like. So, you know, big, big, huge win for her.

You know, that's a massive win. She can start building up the division now. Tough night at the office for Aaron Chalmers. What does this do with the Chalmers? Look, we we get on very well with Aaron. He's always had a great buzz with us off the podcast and stuff like that. You know,

and he's kind of earned our respect as well. Let's be honest. I said it to you last week. I was saying how impressed I was with him during the week and how he conduct himself, how he handled himself. But Clem was always going to fight him that way. And he's a purple belt.

And that's a, I can remember I spoke to Andy Ryan briefly about this fight on Saturday. And he was like, the thing about purple belts is they're always attacking. They're always trying to like, you know, enforce their will.

And I think I could see, I'm trying to set things up but just didn't happen for him but like the problem with a fight like that is my dad talked about it today he's like Jesus there's too much of that holding each other down

now I know that's a very casual take on LMA but that's the people that they're appealing to by putting Chalmers on the card by putting Leah in the main event like my man knew who Leah was before the main event during the night like she's like hope Leah wins yeah my mum was wrong about it's bad as well

yeah she goes I watched that that Leah one yeah so like people are that's a really good thing And I think if you look at Leah's social media even this week, her Twitter's bumped up massively. Look, she had four fights before she's main event at the three arena. She handled herself fantastically.

Well done, Leah. I think the way she conduct herself all week as well. Absolutely. It's not easy to do all that those media duties when you're not used to it and trying to get into your schedule, lose ways mental. You can't predict how the fights are going to go, I guess. But, you know, tough night for Aaron. I just, I don't know, like, was the reason why we were all tuning into Aaron

is because it was so taboo to have this guy coming into the sport. and now, as we said, he's nearly been accepted as an MMA fighter. It's not Aaron Jordy Shore anymore. It's Aaron Charmers in the M.A community. And yeah, and listen,

what I think he should do is I think he should piss off to the States for a few months and just solely focus on grappling and wrestling, maybe ATT or somewhere like that. But I mean, he's in with Alex, London, London's a savage.

You know, sometimes, I think, got out of your comfort zone, away from your family, all of that sort of bills. You as a fighter, you often see it, you know, like, obviously, with Paul Feller, he pisses off to Milwaukee, you know, away from his wife and kids.

It's a very hard thing, but I think they just get more done. Yeah, to be immersed. Yeah, to be immersed and involved deeply in what you're doing. So just a final question for you on this Bellator, Dublin. We can move on to, you mentioned there, Paul Feldar, and I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on Feller situation. You've been very close, when you've obviously interviewed Paul probably more than anyone in Europe. I think without a doubt, like, you know.

but Bellator Dublin happens it wasn't the most fan-friendly fight card of all time like people aren't raving about all these amazing fights that happen on the night certainly generated a lot of stories no doubt about that but after a night like that

with Cage Warriors and UFC coming back this year and they're coming to Ireland and there's no Bellaf Tour event between now and then I mean the next one's it's a week after or something isn't it? It's a month after sometime

in a month after but the fact that cage warriors will come here in May in Belfast and then the U.S.C. are going to come here in August will they be happy that Bela Taur didn't really have the best night in the world? Will this allow them to look a lot better, say, when they come over? I don't think they care. They just want to disrupt Bellator to do whatever they can. I think we saw that last week, obviously, you know,

a week beforehand, them announcing the UFC card conveniently at the time. Yeah, do you think that is... Of course it was, man. You know, definitely. They always do shit. You know, you see, the U.S. week of a Belator fight, normally a McGregor fights announced or something on the day of it.

There's always that little joy even going on between the two. But I don't think they're going to be concerns because Bellator haven't done enough good job in my opinion in marketing themselves and the fighters here. I think the UFC can see that. I think we saw that last week,

even the traction UFC Dolan was always going to create and it sort of overlooked Bellator for two or three days until the fight week rang in. No, I don't think the UFC are going to be concerned. And I think the UFC, as I said, last week on the show, I think they're going to put on a big main event for us here as well. A decent, very high-level main event.

What about Kajwires, though? That's been the main beef in this area, though. But Bellator essentially have come in. The European series has been very focused in the UK and Ireland, where Kage Warriors have been the dominant feeder for the UFC. You know, based on what Ian Dean's done before with these fights and he has a fantastic one of the best matchmakers in the world, I think they put on the most competitive fights in the world. I think they'll be happy in the sense that they know

that their main card that night. will likely be a bit better spectacle, say. Spectacle's hard because Belator is such a spectacle in itself, but I mean, in terms of the fights themselves, I think there will be a lot better action on that main card. Yeah, because obviously, you know, all the talk is going to be, is weeks of a key, going to come in here and make a fucking statement for UFC Dublin. And the UFC, I'm sure, are going to, you know, promote that a fair bit as well on that week

because it makes sense for them, obviously, being on UFC five pass. So people are going to get really, really excited for this. Cage War years card. And yeah. We're dying for some new Irish blood in the O.C. Of course we are. Like, imagining many people that are going to be tuning into that cause the knock on effect is Dublin.

Like even US audience are going to be tuning into that. They go, shit, you know, this Irish guy, Reese McKee, you know. I'm already seeing his name has, like, skyrocketed. Like when we're putting out things on MMAFiting.com, sometimes, you know, the Americans don't recognize these guys, but they're all know the story now. This could be the next dude and they're paying attention. And it's going to be a big spotlight of him on May 16th.

Like I did, I think I put it in a clip for, you know, I did a quick interview at Reese a few months ago on off the ball and I put it out and it was like a two minute clip just for social media and I think it did like 75,000 views in the day like just crazy numbers Reese is producing across everything he does and I think

that is obviously the knock on effect you know because I think the knock on effect there is people are going when's the next Connor McGregor are going to come out Ireland is this the guy to do it and like there's those similarities with that left peg hand they both have the touch of death I think we've talked

about. So yeah, man, it's like a semi-final. I think we talked about that. The final is the UFC. So eyes a plenty are going to be on that. Yeah, and I think it's, it's, it's important for Cage Warriors to have an Irish guy signed for that card, just to underline and highlight the... I have a question

for you then, right? How do you how do you feel about Bellator and Cage Warriors? Who is the bigger brand in Europe? I feel Cage Warriors are. No? No. Like, I know, like, I mean, for For diehard fans, like Cage Warrior is very hard to...

Do we maybe let them off a little bit in their thinking because they put on such good competitive fights in terms of maybe their marketing could be a little bit better? Maybe their production could be a bit better. I think their marketing is brilliant. Because every single person that goes from the... Cage Warriors to the UFC is a big deal. It becomes a thing.

I love that all these guys are forged and fire. They're made go through hell and high water to get that belt around their waist. Like, I mean, you have gone to... through a battlefield of your arcade warriors champions. It's like one big giant. Well, that's the thing, right? Contender series.

The narrative is naturally there all the time because it's a belt. Once you have that belt, you're very close to being there. So, I mean, it's a built-in narrative. It's like the old ultimate fighter. It's sport. It's really sport. It's two very different things for me. But you can't argue with James Galaher.

When he's on a car, he's just fucking 9,000 tickets, man. Like, I mean, he's in every media thing. He'll do media for days. He'll generate so much interest. I mean, it's just two very different things for me. I feel like they both can exist independently. And I think the rising toy lifts all ships, as you've been saying about UFC coming back.

You think it's going to be a good knock on for Bellator, Cage Warriors, everyone. And maybe that is the impact, but I also love the little bit of divilment between the two. Yeah. Like, I mean, give us that. You need that spice, man. It's good. It keeps... Graeme Boyle's fucking savage at Storing the pot, man.

He's probably the best man out of the world that's right in the park. He's like a Bond villain. Him and Martin Lewandowski. him and Lewandowski just looked like Bond. Yeah, Lewandowski does as well. Definitely. He's 100% of Bond villain. Jesus.

You were talking about, you know, seeing people you've interviewed a lot. Obviously, you know, you know, fell there quite well compared to a lot of, you know, other fighters and stuff that we interview. It was a tough, tough watch that post-voy interview after an amazing fight with Dan Hooker. A fight that absolutely was hanging in the balance that could have gone either way. really really brilliant fight I felt one of the fights of the year hands down amazing

and look he is right on the door of beating Dan Hooker there and it doesn't quite happen it's tough to go over to Auckland and then fight in a war like that that's very close you know and

generally the hometown guy's going to get it not to say that it's a robbery in any way shape or form is an incredibly close fight but just tell me your feelings on Felder here do you think this is the last we've seen of him

the injury toll looks significant very significant yeah I was speaking to speaking to people around and people close to him and I think he's fractured the orbital a couple of places and I think fractured to his shin as well

that was on Instagram so yeah listen man it's tough I think sometimes I put a tweet there earlier on sometimes we don't really fully appreciate you know what these guys go through I think we see obviously the whole time a lot with guys here in the scene

and I think we just sometimes forget you know what they go through to give us fucking entertainment leave their family you know I know it's all part of the process and they go over there, you know, thousands of miles away and you end up in a hospital for a week after. It's tough, man, you know. So as for Paul, you know,

I sort of said this to you last week and I said on the show that I thought, you know, he might call it a day with a loss here. And maybe, you know, with Dublin, I think he got a little bit rejuvenated. I think that's, you know, obviously all's been a dream of his to fight here or do his show here. So maybe he might stick around, have one more fight, you know, I think there's people even talking

about running that back here in Dublin, And, you know, I wouldn't say no to that, you know, as a main event here. Because it was obviously a very close fight. I had three rounds to two to Paul. But, you know, I could see it being scored either way. It was just an absolute war. So, listen, yeah, I think Dana White from, you know, sort of seeing on social media and stuff, what he said afterwards, I think he's going to totally try and persuade that.

What did he say? He more or less says, you know, oh, you know, what a fight, all this fucking shit. So he's obviously realizing, you know, Paul's a bloody exciting fight. I think we've always known that and I think maybe maybe that back and from Dana might sort of you know

put a bit of fire in Paul's belly to keep going a little bit longer you know he's not far off a feckin title shot he's one of the best 50 fourvers in the world is that without tell me your heart to heart

will he fight again in the UFC yeah I think so too it's like he's just one like known Paul as well he's one of those guys man he can't say the fucking gym like I mean

he's an intense guy at the best of times he's a grumpy shit at times as well believe me of you. And if Noel's saying that, I mean, it must be serious. Yeah, that's coming from me. You know, but yeah, listen, I think you look back, take a bit of time

out, go back to you as, you know, Christine and Ashling and talk with Duke and, you know, I don't think Duke wants them to pack it in yet either. So it's up to Paul and I think it should solely be up to Paul. I don't think anyone else, you know, I don't like this when fighters get sort of outside influence from,

you know, promoters and things like that. because at the end of the day, that's a very, very dangerous thing. And, you know, I think once the or where it starts coming up from fighters, we often see this pizza. Yeah.

You know, it's even the sniff of it. You see a very different shift in their fighting ability. Well, that's it. Absolutely. And also, Felder, we've got to say,

he has an option there in a different career. He's a fantastic broadcaster out of the UFC. So, I mean, we don't generally see guys that have a ready made there is what you can do

for the rest of your life. And that's what makes it kind of, if he's talking retort me, I want him to retire. Like, I always say it. That's my, always my thing. Totally agree with you. I just think he's in a great position to retire if he wants to. And no one is going like, Jesus,

oh, I don't want to see Felder fight again. No one's there. Listen, I think Paul has a huge amount of fights and a lot more to offer in his career. But if he's thinking about that, and, you know, the one thing I have to say is, like, the poor fucker, man, he's had a lot of bad injuries in fights,

you know, he couldn't leave Arizona or Phoenix for a week after. with the collapsed lung, the broken ribs. With a kid. Exactly, man. And his shit and his fucking food and all that, you know, drink beer. And Paul loves a feck and beer. He's trying to get Action Bronson's job.

She's not same. But that's three times now. The same in Brazil happens. You know, when this shit accumulates, it's not good in your body, man. And again, he's, you know, he's in hospital there for a couple of nights in Auckland. It fucking sucks, man. Absolutely. It wasn't the best night for Europe.

Obviously, Alexi Chuk lost a decision as well. But we're kind of talking about injuries and stuff like that. Caroline de Kovalecovich I see a lot of complaints online about why this fight wasn't stopped and she has got an unruly amount of injuries coming out of this and how many losses has she now had in the row?

Five I think in a row I'll double check that but like man she was just getting like the fight could have been fucking stopped like she was just getting pieced up pieced up it was uncomfortable to watch and I think you know she came out with that four losses on the road

the Andrade Waterson Grasso and Jan four in a row right and you know again it's this is you know when you see a fight or that badly beaten up you know

and four losses in a row and there's definitely been a switch you know in her mindset since she lost that title fight this is a woman who beat Rose Namibu

yeah and it's just like it's just like she's totally totally lost her confidence she said in that piece she put up on Instagram as well

that she cracked the bone in two places below her eye you know two black guys she's very badly beaten up very upset obviously she would be. I just go again, you know, here, you know, what do you do? Does she fight on? Does she try and make a

run for it again? Does she want to go through all this again? I'm not sure, man. It was very, very unsettling to watch that fight. This is what I wanted to say. Like, I mean, why is there such a stigma around throwing in the towel in an MMA or a referee stopping a fight? Like, I mean, from what I hear, she was just holding a glove in front of her eye, basically, and trying to land up one big... She was literally just getting pieced up. Like, when is her corner going, like, this isn't... She's not going to win this fight. look at the injuries she has there like I mean are you doing your job

if you're gonna continue to let her fight there I don't know if you are either because you know I think it was pretty evident from the first round that she was she was it was gonna continue on the way it was and you know I think they maybe even should stop to the second round it was just mental on it yeah I do agree with you

we have a bloodlust in this sport sometimes like you know we want to see we want to see people fucking dying basically before we see the fight stop and it kind of like with Fury and Wilder at the weekend the stoppage there it was great because I think the referee realized in round seven

like this, Wiler's not going to win this fight this is just going to be damaged now. Unfortunately Petey it's probably going to take you know us to see that to realize it. Yeah. You know, and coaches, that's the sad thing about this sport that you know, it's obviously But even the fan base, oh it's an early stoppage, it's an early

stop. Like every time someone's freaking out about it. No, you are right. Even Franz Malambo and Ricky Bandaya Stadium at night. Like fans. Perfect stoppage. Nothing wrong with it. I don't want to see Franz. taking shots he doesn't need to take that's a young guy with a huge career in front of him who look great

I don't want to fuck Franz look brilliant in the early rounds First round was fucking amazing His grappling's come on so much And you know how great punchery is But it's just a sad Part of the sport And it's like that with I'm

It's like the way cutting thing as well Like you know how much more can we Sort of let this go on It's gonna be the straw That's the brags the camel's back here Like and we know what it is That's it's fucking worrying When you when you

It's the outcome that's gonna be catastrophic For a huge yeah Massively bad for the sport when something like that ever did happen and Mustaya split with Brad Riddell continues his winning ways with back in the gym the next day at 5 a.m. training glass. What a man. They're badass out there in city kickboxing. To go off

he beat Aguilar but um unfortunately Emil Mique now in a situation where he could be looking at his marching order same as Carolina like three three loss on the bounce what do you think? Yeah like three losses in a row You know, it is the magic number in the UFC

if they're going to give you your P-45 and your pink pay slip. And yeah, it could very well be the case for Emil. Will his marketing help him at all? No. Do you not think so? I don't know.

Unless they announce something in Scandinavia. Yeah, but in fairness to the UFC, I think in the last couple of years, we haven't seen as many guys get cut when they've lost three. They've let fighters maybe go four or five. But maybe, you know, Meek isn't a big enough name, in my opinion, to maybe keep them around. or get that extra fight.

So it is going to be interesting to see what they do with them. Listen, I did expect Jake Matthews to win. In fairness, you know, it's not an easy, not an easy fight at all. There's going over there for that. Yeah. There's a lot more travel if you're going from Vegas

than there is from Australia, you know? Yeah, it's like fucking, I think, Jesus, what was the flight for even John Gordon? I think it was putting it up the other eight. 30 hours or something? Yeah, yeah, probably. I think it's a bit less from Vegas now, but still. Yeah, so look,

we'll get on to our second interview of the day. we spoke to Brian Moore who was one of the most talked about fighters out of Ireland even though he wasn't competing on the night nicest guy in Irish mixed martial arts well we've got a lot of nice ones Brian's certainly up there at the top

look at him fucking too scared to say I'm just want to piss anyone off too scared to say to other fighters are nice oh you you rap Scalian McGrath I'll piss them all off you're all wankers well there's Brian Moore I'm only messing

and well here's Brian Moore anyway course you wanted to get his reaction to this Ricky Pandeyas talk this patchy mix situation. I think Bandaas is the way to go. I think Moore feels that way as well. It's the way to do it. Let's have a listen to what Brian has to say.

We're back in about 10 minutes. And you let me know what you think because I certainly fucking want to see this fight. Brian Moore was not competing at Bellator Dublin over the weekend, but he came away as one of the most talked about fighters from the Irish charges anyway with a lot of people talking about fights

with Ricky Bandeas and of course Pachi Mix who got involved on the internet. as well. We spoke to you briefly on the night, Brian. How was it to be there and not being able to compete? I'd say that's really tough for you because I know how much it means for you to compete at the three arena. Yeah, I look at it.

I headlined it before and it's a fortress that place and it's not compete in Ireland when the show is there. It's heartbreaking but at the same time, you know, it was a I feel really motivated right now and that show made me twice

as motivated. So, you know, it was I accepted that it wasn't going to be fighting on a Dublin card quite a while ago. So it was good to be there, suck up the atmosphere, and, you know, and look forward to the next one for myself, you know what I mean? So, look, I won't have long to wait for him back in there. And, you know, the big show will be coming back to Dublin later in the year, and I'll be for sure on that. You know, yeah, I was going to ask you, how are your hands?

How is your health? You know, even when this card came out, I saw so many fans kind of fantasy matchmaking with you. Unfortunately, you couldn't come together. but I mean, how are you? How is the hell? Are you 100% ready to go now? Yeah, I'm literally 100%. I rushed the last time, Pizzi, because, you know, the way my fight went against La Hatt, how I found that fight, how easy I was dominating.

And then when I broke my hands and then I felt like I had to get back in there and I completely rushed it, which made me going to my last fight with two fractures still. Wow. And, you know, we only kind of found it. I knew there was something wrong with both hands. but it wasn't until I broke it again in training that when the surgeon opened it back up he said you've had this fracture for a year it's just a plate that broke so you know it was a I rushed it so I couldn't rush it this time you know what I mean but thankfully they feel

fantastic mobility's backing them you know what I mean and training is going great you know I'm so happy where I am right now and that you know after after last Saturday night there's a lot of options out there right now for me so I'm I'm happy yes yes there certainly is let's talk about that now. Franz and Ricky for me had the best fight tonight. It was a brilliant first round from Franz and a great second round of course from Ricky. You know, he comes backstage afterwards. This is the second time he stopped, you know, an SBG fighter. He obviously had that highlight, real K-O over James Gallerger's soul loss. And now this one, very competitive for you, as we already said. But when he's backstage, of course, the media, the narrative they can't really let

slip is the fact that, you know, Bandejas versus SBG. We threw out your name towards him because I know this is not the first time you and Ricky have kind of been in the same conversation together. Now, he didn't say your name, but he nodded his head and he said, I want another SPG guy. You shortly after get on Twitter. Your Twitter, your tweet goes wild with everybody getting behind it. They want to see you versus Bandaias. And then Patrick Mix gets himself in the mix, shall we say.

All of these huge options, I feel like both. Bandejas and Patrick Mix are two of the most well-known fighters, highly skilled fighters in that division. How do you feel about it? Like, I mean, are these the kind of names you're looking for, Brian? Yeah, absolutely. You know, I didn't drop down to Bantamway. You know, I've been fighting these killers at 145, you know what I mean, in Bellator. I didn't drop down this to Bantamway to, you know what I mean, just to make up numbers,

I'm here to be the champion. You're only going to get that by beating these caliber guys. and, you know, the fight I really want is, you know, I think Mix is a great fighter, and I'd like to put myself in against them, but I really want that Ricky Band-Bez fight. Both of us have been building this fight for quite a while. Both of us have agreed to it. All we need to do is we send contracts right now. You know what I mean? Now the narrative is, you know, the SBG hunter, etc. Well, you know, the most experienced SPG guy there is. You know what I mean? You know, besides that two-year I-a-a-a-a-a-old in the sport, I've been there in SBG for nine years now, you know what I mean? So, If you're going to bring SBG's name into it, you've got to bring my name into it. And I'm a different kettle. I'm a different kettle of fish. Like, we've seen what Franz was able to do. You know, and he done really good.

But, you know, Ricky used his experience to overcome that. You know what I mean? And, you know, he's going to be fighting someone that's been around and been in there in wars. You know what I mean? He'll need a shotgun to get me out of there. As simple as that. So I can't wait to get in. And I'm sure we're going to fight.

You know, patchy mix, if that happens too, I'm happy. I've invited both of them to Dublin. they're more than welcome. Does it have to happen in Dublin for you, or would you be happy to fight side of Luxemandeas in the US? Oh yeah, I'd love a US fight again. You know what I mean? Dublin is great because, you know, it's two hours in the road for me,

but it's also, you know, it's an iconic place for mixed martial arts right now. But Beltor is a US promotion. So I'd like to be, you know, spreading myself over boat regions, to be honest, you know what I mean, building a name, you know, even more in, across. Europe and then, you know, showing the US fans what I can do as well. And a lot of them are familiar with my name already, but not in Bantam ways, not a 135 where I will be the champion.

So, you know, the sooner the better, whether it's in the States, whether it's in the UK, whether it's an earned, I don't mind. I don't mind. But me and Ricky, it's only, it's inevitable. You tell me a matchup that makes more sense right now. No, I love it. I love the whole narrative. And I think it becomes, I think it's a very valuable matchup for both of you.

Of course, Ricky can continue this narrative with the SBG Hunter situation, or to, you know, he's going in and taking out guys from that gym, whereas it becomes a huge scalp for you to stop this, right? If you're the guy who ends that narrative, you're the guy, I'm going to put a line through this. I think that adds a lot of fan interest. And, of course, that's very important today. But then you just think about the matchup, right?

Like, it's a different matchup. It's a very different matchup, Galaher v. Bandias, and Malambo v. Bandias, and then you. Like, what way do you see that? You know, like, I looked at his performance. Now, Ricky's an honest bloke. You have to tell him that. Like anything that comes out of his mouth is pretty much a truth.

You got to take that. He said he was sick for that fight, and I believe him, you know what I mean? And for him to be able to go through that adversity and still pick up a win against. You seen her Franz was like he was very good. So he was against a very, very good opponent, Franz. He got to take your hat off too, Ricky. But I'm a different breed. You know what I mean?

Especially at 135. You know what I mean? One thing that really stood out to me against Bandez is how emotionally invested he got in the standup. He wasn't willing to go for a take-down on France, even though he was losing that fight. We just found a way to win. But, you know, if he doesn't shoot on me, he's going to be in a hell of a lot of trouble. If he does shoot on me, he's still going to be in trouble. It's a fight where stylistically it makes sense.

It's a fight where the UFC are coming back to Ireland. They're wanting to put on big shows, I'm sure, or big fights, Billetor, I'm sure. This is a big fight. This has title implications. This has now history. In us, you know what I mean? We both are hungry guys. We don't really run our mouths a whole lot.

We just love a good scrap. And the fans will fucking love this one. they will love this one you know what i mean and i always do two hilarious fans now i don't want to i do not want to miss home town fights and people and durena were asking me all right can't wait to see you back in there i was you got loud yeah when you came down to speak to us very briefly there was so many people there looking for pictures and stuff like that people very interesting i completely agree with that and and the other thing brian is like you've gone in on short notes against vichel mckee these guys who are like top of the food chain at one 45 i'd love to see you

with a full camp going in against one of the guys top of the future in at 1.35, you know? Pete, the only time I've ever been given a full camp in Bellethor against a good guy was against No Adelaad. That was an amazing performance. In a couple of weeks. I took a fight against H.M. Key on a couple of weeks

where I should never have been fighting in that fight. We went through that before. The only camp I was ever fully given was against No Adelaide. And that was the easiest five minutes of my life until I broke my hands set, broke my hands seven times. I still continued. You know, they talked about,

Anthony Pettis being a fucking you know he continued on for a round with a broken hand but he continued on for 12 minutes with seven breaks in my hands you know what I mean so like give me a full camp you know what I'll get a little bit of look someday I don't be breaking things and bits and

look at 1.35 I don't need look I'm just all I need is a full camp and I'm putting all these guys away and there's so many options right there no patchy mix is a great fight band a great fight and there's more there. There's more guys out there. I can't wait to get at. I've been a bit more vocal. I wanted Joe Warren. That ain't happening. He's not coming

anywhere near me. But I've asked for Band-Ayes and he's a pretty guy. He'll put a pen paper the same way I will so all they need to do is send out that paper does. Well, Brian, I got to say, you have sold it to me, my friend. I am all

on board for that fight. And look, the one thing I criticize Belator about is not being able to create these narratives, these storylines that get fans involved. that make the fans of skin in the game. And I think that would rally the whole Irish support behind you. And, of course, look, SBG is a polarising brand. There will be Americans backing Band-Ais

and hoping he goes in and continues his run. I think they'd be crazy not to make, and I really hope it happens, Brian. Yeah, look, I think it's inevitable. You know what I mean? I'm, I've tried to make it happen on my end. Ricky's all game like he always is. So look at it, whether it's Mike Cogan, you know what I mean,

Scott, whichever one he is, want to send me out those contracts, just get him out. and let's get this thing going, you know what I mean, and I'd like to get one in there before, and then, you know, Dublin is almost towards the end of the year, so whether I go to the States to fight Ricky, you know what I mean, whether it happens in October, I don't care, you know what I mean, well, let's just go.

I'm ready to go right now. Brian, absolute pleasure to speak to you, a gentleman. One of our favorite guests we have had on the podcast over the years, always a pleasure to talk to you, and I look forward to hopefully watching this fight in person, because I'm very excited about it. Yeah, me too, me too, man. All the best, sir.

Good boy. Thanks very much. Great to speak to Brian Moore. Brian, I hate you. You're a horrible person. Yeah, I mean, he's such a dick. He's a lovely, lovely lad. He was beaming there on Saturday as well.

He was in serious form. Yeah, he was in great. He's done a serious job with that new gym as well. More fitness and built his gaff from feck and scratch. Unbelievable. I asked him, would he bail me when he let me fuck a lodge out of the back? He said he'd do a studio for his job for a little bit. out the back.

Yeah. Fucking savage. That was awesome. Half the price of rent in Dublin. There you go, Brian, I'm going to hold you to that one

so you'll be down. You'll be down next week, yeah, with the bricks of mortar. Yeah, he was talking about his hands there. It was pretty badass looking like that was scar.

Yeah, you know. It looks fucking cool, I think. Yeah, it does look cool. It does look badass. But, you know, that's been a real unfortunate thing for Brian,

those handbrakes, you know, and I think we saw it against San Jose's Israeli when he, no, a lot of a hat, when he fought him he was talking seven breaks he had in his hand.

And he's like, I watch people talking about about Anthony Pettus, oh, look how we fought for one round with broken hands. He was like, oh, he fought 12 minutes with seven breaks in two hands.

I mean, it was unbelievable. To put in the performance he did there in that fight was incredible and he looked so good until he always looks so good. Yeah. Oh, sorry, sorry.

It seems to be more professional. Jesus. But his boxing is savage, man. The guy's unbelievable. We've often said that, you know, Brian looks like one of the best guys with his hands. He definitely looks like one of the bit looks like one of the

it looks like one of, sorry, sorry. Sorry. One of the best guys in terms of his boxing skills in the country. And I think, you know, as I said earlier on, that fight against Band-A, just is a fucking no-brainer. So Bellator won't do it.

They better do it. They have to do it. They have to do it. And I think Ricky is, I'll give me a bit of credit, like, as well, man. He had a hellish way cut. Like, remember he saying that? He's like, oh, he's the flu all week. Fuck. I was wondering why he was so quiet at that me today. I was like, Jesus Christ, trying to get blood from us down here. Wasn't it? It was like, too, it was like

Stepe Miochich interview. Just trying to pull teeth. Steepet, a legendary interview as we always. Stepe, how are you getting on? House for him, you know, a big fight coming up. You're excited. Yeah, man, good. Awesome.

Roy, let's have a look at this Norfolk card. There's quite a lot of Europeans in action, actually. But I love you, Steeper. I know you don't listen to the show. Or he probably does, actually. Everyone listens to the show. Come on. So, fucking.

I don't offend you. I'm very sorry. Joey B. Going for that world title again against Davison Figuereda. That's a great fight, man. And I'm kind of favouring Davison, but when it be a great story of Joey B. It would. I'm kind of sick. I'm getting title shots, though. Is that all that a fair thing to say?

I see a lot of people saying that as well. I feel like he's criminally underrated. Just because he hasn't been the champion for that long, I mean, he won that first title fight right back in there. Is there any flywates left in the U.S. to defend off of this? I don't know. Who knows, but I don't know with that. But I think that's a great fight.

It is. Oh, on paper, it's an excellent fight, yeah. And hopefully it will come up Trump. because, you know, if it doesn't, if it goes for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the flywades. They suck. Flylights are some of the best.

I love it. Fighters in the world, man. And, yeah, I just think, you know, you have that problem, though, and, you know, going forward, like, what the fuck? They haven't, Dana hasn't come out and said on it. Like, it's, you know, yeah, yeah. I mean, we don't fucking know. I think it's a thing.

Like, you know, they've signed Floydweights since they've signed Alaska. Yeah, well, that's true, yeah. It's been more positive signs, I'd say, anyway. Zara Fern in the co-main event against Felicia Spencer. I think it was our debut against Megan Anderson when I was in Melbourne last year she lost via submission Ian Kutilaba taken on Mago Med

Ankelev so that's all European action there on the main card as well Let's have a look there is fucking more Marston Toibura v. Sergei Spivak I was actually very impressed with him I saw him in Melbourne as well I believe it was Melbourne or was it Abu Dhabi

One or the other Oh oh oh it was Melbourne Toy Tui Vasa he submitted him That was a really good win And yeah, that's a good fight between him and Tybora. Good chance for Spivak to make a big jump up there in the division. How about the return of Tom Braz? That's very exciting.

Yeah, listen, Tom is a thoroughly talented guy. Unbelievable fighter. You know, we've seen him over the years what he's been able to do. It's about getting a bit of consistency going for Tom now and a good, solid run of fights within a year. A devastating performer. He's unbelievable. Absolutely devastating.

On the ground and both obviously with his feet. we saw that against obviously Carl Pendra that was we were chatting about that earlier on yeah I mean like Brendan Allen's a tough guy you know obviously

I think he trains with Duke you mentioned earlier but Bree's um I mean I guess I'm feeling positive about this because I'm looking at the form of renegade at the moment and him being head coached there and like guys like joy

I wonder if that's a good thing though yeah guys like Joy and Leon coming on the show and and singing Tom's prizes and what do you mean in terms of like in terms of him being a you know a coach you know a head coach of himself almost

you know I don't know but I think that gym I think the way they work it is like the main fire is like Leon will take the wrestling class Tom will do the boxing class and I feel like they kind of just spread it out among themselves

but I think Tom is definitely very very very very at the far front of that but yeah that's a good point I guess in a perfect world they would be completely dedicated to just their own fight career looking forward to seeing him in there as you said at his best

he's one of the best and Ishmael Nardiev the Austrian one Wonderboy, who has been devastating at his best in the UFC, takes on Sean Brady, a man who's been on the bash before, of course. Ireland's own. It's an all-European clash to open it up as well, right. That's a tough way for Sean Brady.

Yeah, it is. It really is a tough fight. But I think we have to look at Sean's last fight, and I think we had him on before Court McGee, and he nearly finished court in the first round. It's very unlucky not to finish him. That's a great win in a day. It is a big win.

Come on, Ireland. It proves that he can just go in there and mix with some of the top guys in there and listen, Sean's on your young lad. 10 and 0, I believe he is. And yeah, that's a big, big test against them, the Austrian Wonderboy. I love watching that guy fight. Yeah, looking forward to that on the weekend.

Not too much of a packed schedule this weekend, which is always good to see. We're going to move on with our third interview of the day. We spoke to Cal Eleanor. It's all gone a bit sour between him and James Galeher. My God, it is a completely different atmosphere between these two guys than it was the first time they were a match to fight.

Obviously, those two have fallen out. Carl Eleanor is not too convinced by Galaher's pull out here. He explains why. And I feel like this is building and building towards a big, big European fight in London in May. And I'm looking forward to seeing it,

to be honest, I can't wait for it to play out now. So look, we're going to talk to Calme. Back in about 10 minutes, always a pleasure to speak to the Sunnland Strangler. Finally, I have the opportunity to speak to Cal Eleanor, a man who was the talk of the town in Dublin this weekend, even though, of course,

is his main event with James Gallow. her did not go down. This fight has been re-booked for Bellator Dublin in a couple of months' time, and the appetite has never been stronger for it. Call, I got to ask you, do you feel that? Do you feel this growing sense of anticipation and expectation for this fight because it's been put off the two times so far? Yeah, definitely. I feel like it's got loads more interest now. You know what mean? People just want to see it get done, and the longer it's taken actually happen, the more it's kind of winding James up and myself, you know what I mean? Like, obviously I think he's probably the same as me, and I'm sick of seeing him,

and haven't I prepared for him, and he's probably the same with me. So just, I think that's why it's a bit different now, you know, I don't even fight, man. I'm sick having to see him or talk about him all. You know what I mean? I just want to fight now. Yes, well, I appreciate you doing this, Sam. And I know it must be, because I saw the amount of media around you were already doing in Dublin,

so I'm sorry for having to put you through it again. No, no. But this has become personal. We had James on the show last week, and he was like, whatever way you reacted to him withdrawing from this fight, he has now believes it's a personal vendetta between you two guys. Can you comment on that more? Does it feel like there is more skin in the game for you now going into this fight?

And how has the dynamic change between you two guys? Yeah, definitely. I just feel like the way he went on when the fight got really, like rematched and put it on. you know, I thought he went on like a bit of tool, and then to then see all that stuff at the press conference about, I showed up, I showed up, and this, I never pull out, I'm the strongest mindset in the game, this, that in the other, and then to pull out two weeks or whatever it was from the fight

and see it was a bad back, but then see on your podcast that it was there, he couldn't even lift his gym bag up, but then the day after the day after he pulled out, there's a photo on his Instagram with his gym bag on his shoulder. So I thought that was a bit ridiculous, and then to see it, like, parading about, at all, Dublin, like a P-clock on Saturday night, jumping all over when there's fights on,

when he was supposed to be fighting anyway, and then he's pulled out with an injury, and then what was also meant to be happening between the Charlie Ward fighting the main event, who was supposed to get in the cage, and I thought, like, for someone who always guns on about his fans and stuff like that, I thought it was a bit chiddy

how he didn't get in there, you know, I was supposed to do a little interview there. Obviously, he was main event there, and he didn't, he chose not to do that, and he left, you know, so I thought that was a bit shit like but aside from that eye I just want to even fight him now mate

it's just one of them things you know what I mean when you thought about someone for that long I just want to put the nail in the coffin you know what I mean from what you're saying there you do stick by that you do feel as though

he made an excuse here to not fight you in Dublin last weekend well you know it is mate if he's genuinely injured I would you know it is what it is but to see him I didn't think he looked injured

and when we did the face off he didn't he didn't stop putting his hands up like the day after he put all that. As I see, he's doing selfie videos in his car. You know what I mean? He looked fine. And then to see him jumping about when Kiefer Crosby was fighting on Saturday night, like that looked like a man who could fight me, you know what I mean?

So, I mean, if you can jump about like an idiot, you can certainly have a fight, you know what I mean? So it looks like he's flagging it, you know what I mean? No, absolutely, absolutely. And what was going on in the fight night? Because obviously, I'm moving between the back area into the fights. I actually don't get to see an awful lot of fights on fight night. But from the guys who were sitting at the very top of press row, they said you guys were exchanging looks. James was rubbing his hands together when he was looking over at you.

You were both very intense. I mean, what was going on? And how long did this go on for between you guys? Well, at first I didn't see him when he walked in. And I looked up when he was like staring at his, like pulling his friends. So I was laughing at him. I laugh at him every time. You know, I've seen him and I thought it was funny.

You know, I'm excited for the fight. Like, regardless whatever he says in the buildup, like, I genuinely don't care. because we're going to fight anyway, so it's funny. And him acting like this just makes it even more satisfying that I'm going to get a punch in the head. So this is all good for me. And then it was when he left. It was when he was on the way out.

Like, I don't know if it was there. I don't know what she is in 10 or whatever. But she came over to me and she said, oh, when this fight finishes, we're going to get you and James. They're already kind of told us the plan anyway. But then she come over and once she was like, when this fight's finished, we're going to get you. you're going to go in the cage to do the top and whatever and then that's when james was

walking out uh rubbing his hands looking at it so i was just clapping at him i was just saying like we'll see you know what i mean let's let's do it you know what i mean uh i say out some other stuff adam i kind of remember what i said but it was funny and then in then he left and that was it pretty much it you know what i mean so yeah it's crazy to me cal and i've said this to you off the record a few times from the first time this fight was booked to now you've become a huge name and the apotoy for you has grown significantly. I mean, it's crazy to think about it really, but the fact that this fight has been put off twice has actually made it one of the more interesting fights in European MMA, it seems, because all the fans are really up for this one. And I feel like

more and more people are getting behind you, more and more people are getting behind James. It feels like a real rivalry that people are getting behind it. Is that crazy for you to see? And this growing popularity is it interesting you to have to be dealing with that? Like being recognized than Dublin rather than, you know, Sunderland where you're from and stuff? Nah, you know, it is. It's funny as it sounds, mate. This is something that I've thought for a long time would happen.

I feel like, I don't know, I feel like people can relate to me, you know, kind of the same kind of upbringing as a lot of people, you know, especially people like from Dublin, Sondland, you know, it's a key sign of kind of seem like, upbringing and stuff, you know, so I feel like people can relate to us, so I feel like that's why kind of people might be kind of getting behind us,

you know, just a normal lad. I don't pretend to have things that I don't or pretend to be bigger than what I am. I just, yeah, you know what I am, whatever it is, you can just see the kind of person I am. I feel like that's all it is. I feel like I'm maybe relatable.

So I feel like that's why people's maybe getting behind us a bit, but it is, it's cool, you know what I mean? I'm enjoying every minute of it, and I'm excited for what will come after this as well. You know, I've already been told that we, regardless of what happens after James, I'll be fighting in America, guess so I'm looking forward to see what happens there.

Do you, like, I mean, do you have many Irish people walking up to you and telling you they want to see you beat James? Because he is a very polarising figure, right? 100%. I get messages all the time. I get messages from Irish people all the time, funnily enough, and when I was in Dublin,

I had people coming up listening to, I'll strangle James, I hope you strangled James, and stuff like that. It's funny, though, because in the same sense, a few Irish people coming up seeing that and people from wherever seen it and then I had a couple of, the first time this has actually happened

I had a couple of English guys when I was at Beltau, come over and asked us for a photo and then said, oh, look, we're like getting that, but we're rooting for James and I was like, you know what it is? I appreciate your honesty, man, that's cool, you know what I mean? Whether you want me to lose or you want me to win, I'm just happy that people are interested in the fight,

you know what I mean? It's promoting my name and his name and it's going to be big, you know what I mean? especially now that it's third time round and it's in England now, you know what I mean? I feel like I'll be able to bring thousands of people down and it's going to be a special, special occasion. Absolutely, Callan, do you feel just finally,

do you feel as though that event missed your fight an awful lot because that's what a lot of people feel like? I mean, the main card maybe wasn't the most exciting in the world of last three fights, and I feel as though a fight that so many people are interested in, you and James would have been huge there. Did you kind of get that sense as you were sitting cage side? To be truthfully honest, me, I did.

I really did it was a good card really good card like I'm I'm not the the Martin guy or whatever you know I don't put the shows together

I thought it went well I thought it went well for sure but I thought I thought there was a good mix of fights but some of the fights some of my favourite fights of the night

were some of the earlier ones and I felt like it kind of maybe had like a bit of an impact on the card that it went that way but I definitely feel like the show missed out

done a treat there because regardless of whatever way the fight went, I feel like that fight would me and James would have blew the roof off. But I'm glad it's back in this time it's in England. So I, so we'll get to have that there. So I'm buzzing for it like. Carl, thank you so much, man.

It's always a pleasure to speak to you and I've loved watching this rise in popularity that you've had. And this fight is going to be huge when it eventually happens, my friend. Jeez, mate. It's nice to speak to you too, Pee-T-Mare. Thank you. All the best. I'll see you in England, sir. Cheers, man. Thank you. See you soon.

Bye. It's getting very exciting ahead of the third scheduled meeting. Let's hopefully this. Fingers and toes crossed that happens this time. It's a way bigger fight than the first time it was made, man.

Huge. Yeah, it's wetter appetite as we said earlier on. Yeah. You just want to see it more now and the shit talks, building even more. My God. Which is great. Yeah, I'm thoroughly excited

for that fight card in itself. Yeah. James Haskell as well. Yeah. What did he do? for this again? Oh, he's a reality TV show guy, wouldn't he? Yeah, and a rugby player. Oh, yeah.

Rugby, heard it all. Let's, um, did you watch Toys and Vyrieuery, man? I was so caught up in this fight. I mean, I was eating disciples, fight disciples every day in the leader, though I love tuning to them boys for big boxing fights, man. They just, they're, they're just good fun. And it's like, they can translate the message of the fight

very well to a guy like me who isn't tuning every week to boxing. And, um, Garrett Day, a great friend, Garretay, Davies, doing a great friend. great job over there as well. Always one of the best getting those big fights and he gets everyone, doesn't he?

He gets everyone. And he looks fucking good doing it. He looks good. I'll tell you what, man, when I was in Garrett with Khabi fight the last time, the amount of people that come up to him in Vegas.

Well, he's like a brand. Like he's like, you know, he's cut out a place in this sport for himself that no one can never take away from, you know what I mean?

He's literally Americans all over. Yeah. He's great crack. He is. He's fucking unbelievable crack. He is, man. Garrett, he spices up here. He gets a hard time.

He gets her hard time when he is at a fight week me and you are fucking buzzing Yeah We love We love being around Going a few drinks Go to Kentette

Stuff like that Tequila Tequila Tequila and Olive Oh no I love you so much He goes to me He was sick

Obviously last year At the heart tissue And he goes to me Let's get a tequila But we'll only sip it this time He's a fucking legend I love the guy He's an absolute G

But did you watch for He was unbelievable for you What a performance I didn't watch it Oh my God Oh he fell asleep Five seconds before. I was buzzing all week.

Fucking Bellator stole all my lifeblood. And I felt sleep. Man, it is. It's tough, though. Like, we were in the arena from four o'clock. I felt like I was there for weeks, man. And we didn't get out at a lot, half, 12, quarter to one. And you go, I went straight over to Gibson to tune into UFC, Auckland.

So, like, it's four o'clock by the time I'm even getting in my fucking door. I didn't get to bed, sleep till five o'clock. I was just bollocks. I fell asleep. Oh, I had such a great sleep. And then I went and got an abria the next day. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, But Casey, Casey, I want to say a big thanks to Casey Lloyd and for fucking bailing you out.

Because I got home and obviously you're doing everything yourself and it goes without saying that I'm not the most video savvy guy. I'm not the best that editing and stuff like that. In fairness, you've done a great job. You've really improved. I know, but short space at times. But luckily, I was going to come back and I had still like maybe five things to upload. And I was like, this is going to take fucking two hours. And I'm not very good at it as I said.

And Casey's like, just send all over the rough wood and go to bed. And I was like, I'm going to watch this fight. I was like, yeah, I'll definitely go to bed. I'm going to watch this fight out. Knocked out. So thanks, Casey. You're a legend, man. I love you.

What about Anthony giving me that big crystal? Anthony, a man who has been in Lahore's camp before. I think he was working very closely with King Moe. That was cool. He was like, what the fuck? Just landed on the yolk. It was the best thing ever, man. I was just like, holy shit.

Presented a crystal, huh? Unbelievable. Assault lamp crystal is why it is. Apparently Pendwood was telling me it's to up the old libido. for the riding. Was that what it is? He says you plug that in and sticking out a lamp on

and it increases the libido for people, I guess. Jose Wong's definitely needs one. Oh, oh, oh, fucking the blow, two quick jobs

in this episode so far. I'm a quick, I'm a quick, waited young lad. And it's not, this beef is going nowhere. But that was amazing. And look,

more than ever, I felt there, it doesn't happen an awful lot that we, for me anyway with people coming up to you and saying I listen to the podcast there's a lot

everyone asking to see my socks I debuted my Elaine and Reggie socks as well had a kid run up to me about 10 year old and goes show us your socks mister I did I show them but it's great to it's great to hear

from people who listen to the show and appreciate our work it's very humbling in my opinion it's great yeah well we never thought it was going to take off to this extent it's fucking mental

to be honest it blew any kind of aspirations we had in terms of viewing and stuff out of water in our first year and we've kept going strong so we really appreciate all these and definitely hear here it's a new experience for us too so it's been a wild ride

slick motherfuckers listen to the show yeah I'm no fucking casuals more importantly I hate those fucking reptilian pricks but um keep rating keep reviewing share that motherfucker out be part of the movement be part of this audio broccoli get one of your five a day every Tuesday morning baby

audio broccoli do you like that Tag. Audio broccoli. Audio broccoli and Joszy Young's a bitch. Oh, you just drop one in. That's three. I'm going to have to do with his A-side with him now on Wednesday. He's going to be all forwarded up. Do you don't notice on there as well, they played Return of the Mac dealer night? That was for you? That's going to be your engines music. Of course it is. Oh, definitely 100%. Have you talked to USC about this fight? Yeah, be honest. Yeah, I've been in talks. I can't agree in a fee at the moment. You know, it's, it's a big one. It's for all the marbles and podcasting.

The Marbles crystals for not. Nothing wrong with crystals now. But no, I haven't been able to get over the line yet and I obviously need a catch weight as well. Yeah.

What type of catch weight are we looking at for this one? 2.99. Well, look, we're absolutely fucking bollocks, lads. I'm so tired of obviously not done myself any favours by yesterday's performance.

Look at it. Look at how hardcore we are. We're still watching. We're still watching. It's TV on with fights. But they're from about two months ago. Who cares? you're going to hook it up to my van. But look, thanks very much.

Thanks very much to the great Hoyst Gracie to the great Brian Moore and to the great Cal Eleanor. Plenty of fun storylines developing here and we'll be back next week to talk even more of them. Don't be a fucking casual. Tell your mates not to be casual. Peace.

There's nothing casual about us. Peace. M-A.