MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 72 (w/ Paul Felder, Joseph Duffy, Jack Cartwright, Chris Fields)

Episode Date: March 3, 2020

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Paul Felder (5:00) discusses his future after his epic battle with Dan Hooker at UFC Auckland. Joseph Duffy (41:30) underlines what it would mean to him to compete at UFC Dublin. Jack Cartwright (1:10:00) looks ahead to the first defense of his Cage Warriors bantamweight title and Chris Fields (1:42:30) plans out a perfect way to hang up his gloves in 2020. Hosts Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath give their take on all the latest news from European MMA.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

here we go again it is Eurobash episode 72 72 72 that is wild wow it's happening and it's happening quickly join the fastest growing podcast the mixed martial arts we just made that up there actually like to do you know audio broccoli in this season of audio look um a big weekend the mixed martial arts again and a bigger one just coming we have kate Warriors in Manchester the first time ever with Jack Cartwright on the top of that card a lot of Irish talent as well this weekend and of course Israel at Asana versus Yoel Romero and big weekend ahead a lot of news Noel how were you getting on well good man yeah I'm not too bad and busy week as you said busy your week ahead fun times in the world of mixed martial arts my friends I'm good I'm good yeah man and we're coming up on a huge week obviously March 20 at 21st this weekend this

this month for European mixed martial arts is going to be huge with Cage Warriors London, UFC London and KSW 53 all happening within two days of each other. That is wild. That is going to be some fucking weekend. It's great. I tell you what, we're in a lot better place than we were this time last year in terms of

Irish mixed martial arts definitely. Anyway, with all the big shows coming back into town, it's fantastic. What a time to be alive. Yeah, I wonder how many Eurobashes are going to be completely dedicated to people just getting on here and calling for their shot on a UFC Dublin. Because last week's episode, if we featured heavily,

and on this week's episode, it will feature quite heavily as well. We've lots of little chunks and nuggets as well of information, don't we, Peter? Oh, my God. It is a jam-packed episode. We're going to hear from Paul Felder, from Joseph Duffy, Noel, with the two Savage interviews this month, this week, sorry. And, of course, I'll be talking to Bantamway, Cage Warriors champion, Jack Cartwright, a lad who I am terrified of, and I'm glad I got to speak to.

And Chris Fields, who might have a bit of a bomb to drop there. Later on. El Storko Blanco returns. I want to actually go boy El Storco Blanco. I asked that. Willie, we won't embrace it like this housewise choice. What the fuck is that all about?

Yeah, I mean, stay with the killing. The housewise choice is pretty funny though. Because that just happened one day. I was like, that's his name now. Perth up.

Was that out of the Obama card or something? It was. I think it was the, that one actually is supposed to be. Oh, was it? Yeah. The poster there,

Chris gave me of the fight that never happened. Against Liam McGarry. He won the poster. Yeah. It's actually a slick poster, isn't it is indeed it is good the guys can't see it

so I was going to say what do you think but now lovely poster or not video yeah so come here let's take a quick look at these

the latest news headlines and we're probably going to go into our first interview after this because we've got a lot to get through this week so Ariel Hawani has reported

that McGregor and Gagetia are in preliminary talks for a summer bout Umar and Mare and Maghabado has signed for the UFC he's fighting Hunter Azuray at

UFC 249, of course when Habib is fighting Ferguson as well. Alexander Hernandez, the Islam Makashchev, has been added to UFC 249 as well. That's the type of thing we've been waiting for for Makashchev, I believe. And UFC are targeting a Kazakhstan card for June 13th, according to my good colleague, Steve Morocco. Chris Fields will return to the K-Dwar his banner on April 18th. We'll be hearing from Chris later on today. Roberto Saldich will take on Marius Zoromskis, a KSW-52. three for his welterweight title.

Sir Romsk is of course a bellator legend and how about this? You're not going to like this one, Bashers. Jose Aldo, not Peter Yan, will take on Henry Sehudo on May 9th for the bantamweight title despite his two-fights skid.

What do you think of that? I'll get there in a second. Juan Adams has something for Ares as well, which could be meaning that a potential date with our boy Rug Rug Rugged could be set up down the line. That's a great opponent to have though. I feel like they're doing great things,

Aries with their with their signings getting in these names from the UFC, etc. We're going to talk about, do you know what? We'll go to our interview and we'll come back and we'll talk about Gaichi, the Gaigi McGregor's story and maybe Al Lowe. What do you think of that?

So it's okay for you, babe. I just don't want to hurt your feelings. Perfect. I don't want it to be nice and flowy. Do you want to introduce the first guest of the evening? Who's the first guest? I think you know. Mr. Paul,

Felt or caught up with Paul? What was it today? I don't even know what day it is. One of the most sought-after interviews in the sport at the moment coming off that, fantastic fight with Dan Hooker where... Incredible.

Almost retired. Yeah. Mate. Who knows? Who knows? As I said, I think it's just, you know, a matter of Paul, it's that big fight as he explains here, you know, might bring him back out. And obviously, Dublin is looming large in August.

It's going to be interesting. Absolutely. Take it away. Always an absolutely pleasure to speak with my next guest coming off, an absolutely war and fight of the year contender against Dan Hooker in New Zealand, one of them. I was talked about man in mixed martial arts. Always a pleasure. Paul Feller, first of all, my buddy,

how many donuts have you eaten this week? That's what I have to ask. Man, today, so today, Christine and Ashening, they went and they got donuts. She was coming over. And I was like, all right, she's going to this place, yum, yum donuts. It's in Pennsylvania.

It's probably about 45 minutes outside of the city. So I don't get to it too often, but it's up by where she lives. and we're asking you sometimes and the donuts there, dude, they're big, they're filled, they're delicious. She got me six of them.

I was like, I'm going to eat a couple now. I'm going to go for a little long walk, get a little cardio in, and I had all these interviews that I was trying to bang out and everybody get out there today to you guys that kind of like had my week to recover.

I ate three. They went down easy, dude. And I was like, I'll have another one and Ashing wanted to try this cherry pie filled one It was like chocolate frosted With a cherry on top with cherry pie filling So you know

No sugar in it at all Dottie added So she takes like the tiniest bite So I'm stuck with this massive filled donut Number four I was like I screw it I'm just I'm going for it I ate that one

And I had two more You pig And I was like And I was like and I was do one more and save one for i ate all six of those filled donuts in probably about 30 minutes she's you're like me with the ginnis so i'm just the opposite way around with it i can't it it it really is a problem right because i crave it nile you know this you've interviewed me during these weight cuts you know that it's on my mind for eight weeks nine weeks maybe even 10 weeks for this

fight where I really was disciplined for a long, long, long time. So, dude, now that I'm off the chain, the fight was epic. Like, I'm proud of myself, even though we didn't get the win, but, like, I know I put in work. I just can't help it. I can't help it. And I keep saying the next day, you're going to be better. And I will.

Like, the one day I woke up, I had three eggs, some oatmeal. I was like, yeah, good breakfast, some coffee. I was like, let's go. Then I just start, like, crushing candy throughout the day. And it's like, stop. What do you? I'm going to ask you about that in a moment. Obviously, you know, you mentioned the possibility of retire

and we'll speak about that in the sec. But I have to ask you about the fight, first of all. I scored it rounds two, four and five for you. There was a lot of people, literally majority of people, I think even online and in the media world, scored the fight for you. Just your thoughts on the fight where you obviously did, obviously you were disappointed.

I know you had it scored for yourself. Just your thoughts on the judge's decision? Yeah, man, it's just again another case where let me start with it was a super close fight right we all know that competitive as hell dan's as tough as they come and congratulations to him i'm not taking anything away from him i'm not going to fight the decision it's not it's not worth it was close enough where i can't complain but that being said you know dan thinks he won the fight he talked about it on on different interviews and i feel like i won the fight like you said i feel i did enough in round

two i think i dominated the striking he had my back for like a second did nothing with it and then four and five the championship the later rounds i turned it up i had a better cardio and i feel like i put a stamp on it and i feel like i lost on one judge's score cards took away round five because of that takedown but we talked about in the current rules a takedown with zero damage and zero positional changes well you know we were scrambling there was never any real dominant moment and i got back up to my feet now granted not an amazing position but no doubt damage was done so you look at the rest of the round for that. I thought I had done enough, lost

some money, but I got the bonus. So, I mean, that made things a lot better, obviously than just getting my show first, but it was still an amazing experience, dude, like to go in there walk through that crowd. Yeah, I want to... Born in the USA, blazing on the radio. I want to ask you about that, actually, the walkout, because it was obviously, you know, ground control of Major Tom.

Tom was your dad, your late father, and then you went in to born in the USA. Was that all linked towards your dad? Definitely the space oddity was all for my dad. And I just knew that that would get me in the right head spot. You know, I got his ashes. Like, I'm with my team. And then I just wanted to come out to something for us, for the USA.

You know, it's like I'm over in this guy's backyard and all these people are so gung-ho about New Zealand and Auckland and being representing their country. I felt like I was doing mine a disservice if I didn't come out there and kind of rep it a little bit and it got me pumped man to come out to that song with screaming Kiwis in my face

it was like it was raw it was it was one of those you know spine tingling moments it's one of my favorite songs you know I love Bruce Springsteen as well I have to ask you before we move it on a bit you know I feel I don't know how you feel about this

maybe you start fights a little bit too slow do you feel that's an issue because you always seem to come into fights in the late second round, third round, you seem to be at your peak. Yeah, I don't know why, right? And that's one of the things we really worked on too. And I was doing really well in sparring.

I was getting my game plan going right away, which was to be aggressive, as you guys saw, which was to get in his face, close that distance, try to work the body. And Dan did a really good job of evading, and I did a really poor job in the beginning. of following him, right? And I yell about it to fighters all the time when I'm commentating.

So, you know, I can take myself out of the equation when I watch it and see that I thought I was cutting him off in the moment, but I see that I'm leaving so much octagon space. Once I started bridging that gap, and you can see Duke being the genius that he is, he's all over that. He's like big steps to your left, big steps to your left. He's escaping out the side. But at that point, I'd already given up the first round. You know, and I was like, God damn, and here we go.

But, you know, I won the second. And, yeah, I got to work on that. You know, when I come back, when that big fight comes up, which I feel like the UFC is going to give us something cool to get me back in there. We'll talk about that in a moment. I have a few suggestions, obviously, to throw your way. You mentioned retirement, Paul. You know, you've just said there, you're looking for the big fights,

the main events, the five rounders. Is that the only reason or only chance we'll see of you competing in the Octagon again? Yeah, man, I think so. I think at this point, it's got to be something exciting, right? And I'm not saying that I'm maybe deserving of a million of those. But if you're going to get me back, I feel like I'm willing to wait around for a little bit. I mean, no rush. I took some good damage in that fight.

It was a five-round decision. So, you know, obviously Dublin is something I've reached out and said that Duke's made it pretty clear that we'd love that. That's pretty quick turnaround for me. but for that, for that card, I would love to do it, man, you know,

to go and fight in Ireland, uh, would just be so much fun, dude, you know, obviously I'm the Irish dragon. I've got the ancestry going back to them and I could, I could sit here and get my uncle Mark and,

my uncle Jack on here and tell you every lineage in town, where we're from and all that kind of nonsense, even though some people think I'm just a, we'll do that, we'll do that after. Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. Connor McGregor put up,

on Instagram post he said Felder's German, you stupid twat. Why is Connor McGregor constantly in your ear? Like, you know, he said it obviously after his fight against Donald Seroni. Now again, what did you make of that that job on Instagram? Man, I just think

he's aware of the division. You know, I think he's, he comes after anybody. He puts feelers out on anything. You know, he's a businessman in that way where he wants to be alpha dog, right? That's his way of kind of being the boss, right, making comments to anybody and everybody.

I don't think it meant too much. He deleted it afterwards. Did he delete it? I didn't realize that. Yeah, I didn't jump on that beat because it was literally, I had just gotten out of the sauna, cut like seven pounds. We were close to weigh-ins. I was going to lay down until we had to go and cut the last half pound. So it was like, as exciting as that is, to have, you know, one of the biggest stars kind of call you a plot on, um, social media.

I didn't want to make the mistake that so many people would have of, of addressing that right then and there. Fair. And taking any respect away from Dan Hooker, who obviously deserved every bit of my attention for that fight. Definitely. Now, that's totally fair enough. I've got to ask as well, the injuries. Obviously, there's, you know, the long list again, you got pretty badly. beaten up. I believe there was an issue your eye, your shin,

your liver as well you've spoken about. How serious was all that? So the eye, there's a couple little orbital floor fractures which happen quite more often than a lot of the casual fans I know about. Anytime we're

breaking our nose and stuff, a lot of times you get the orbital floor, it's the small bones that go under your eye. They're like eggshells. They crack quite often. So the way everything's looking right now. It looks like I won't need any kind of plates or surgery. Everything will heal on its own. It'll be like an eight-week, no-contact type of situation. My ankle is still really sore just because of the calf kicks and kicking him. And my feet always swell after

fights and traveling. So, you know, and then you go and eat 3,000 calories worth of someone sitting. You swell up a bit. But other than that, I'm good. I had a little crazy scare with some, some rabdo which is like a kidney can be like a over exertion of the kidneys thing of the kidneys because it's your your muscle start breaking down and producing this stuff that gets in your blood and your kidneys work to filter it out wow how serious that sounds really serious it can be really serious but luckily it was right after the fight and i was in the emergency room so the way you get rid of it is you just you have to hydrate and rest like a maniac so i basically was put on like five bags of IVs

throughout the 24 hours that I was in the hospital. And did they tell you about any serious implications that may have had? No, as long as they were checking my kidney function the whole time. They kept taking my blood to see if it was going down. And that's why they eventually released me because they flushed in enough where my kidneys were operating. I stayed hydrated. I've been staying hydrated since I left the hospital.

Haven't really been drinking too much or anything like that because obviously I was worried about my kidney. So that was the only problem with getting done. huge fight and wanting to drink beers it was like yeah i'll wait on that would that have a knock on effect to anywhere else in your body if you know obviously if you're swelling up after a fight or not like that and your kidneys aren't functioning well that was their worry was letting me go out of there and having this stuff still affecting my kidneys but once i was uh showing that everything was getting operational and functioning it was my and my urine was completely clear by the time i was

leaving there um and to clear it up some people think that it was a during my weight cut. I didn't have it during my weight cut. I had it post-fight. Okay. So it was from the exertion of the fight and they were worried that it could have been from my, my calf getting a compartment syndrome, which is when the swelling is too much for your body to be able to handle. Wow. And what happens is if it swells past what it can handle, your body will actually just start strangulating the muscles to see the swelling in which will kill the muscle in your in your body so so they could be looking at cutting off your leg well yeah well one of the ways they deal with it is they actually slice open your

muscles in giant slices to relieve the tension and then sew them back up when the inflammation goes down wow and I didn't want that at all as you can imagine so I was elevating it icing it like crazy and they didn't they didn't think I had it but they wanted to keep me overnight to to monitor that because any time they you get that that that that that stuff going into your kidneys they they were thinking that it could also be from compartment syndrome but it looked like it was more like a rabdo type just over exertion breakdown of my muscles naturally from that as opposed to like one serious so I didn't end up having compartmental symptoms thankfully um what you know I have to ask you this as well you know

how bad is to come down after fight week you know you know win lose or draw it it's something people I don't thing often think about when they speak to fighters on a regular basis or you know any sort of fans looking on at the sport it must be very very difficult regardless of the results it's tough it's tough man um you almost get this uh and all the fighters kind of talk to each other because they know right like how you feel and this is even if you've won you know a lot of times over like hey how you're holding up because it's so so much and so much raw emotion and relief and stress and excitement and then it's over right and it's now about the pay-per-view this weekend it's you're kind of your old news very quickly in the sport of mixed martial arts but i feel like i'm getting pretty

good at that and i like i love the attention i love being but then when it's over i go back to to philly and just outside of the city in my little townhouse with my daughter and my you know family and it's like i'm just kicking a it on the couch, you know. So I've learned to kind of be really low-key when I'm not in the spotlight. Obviously, you know, we hope that doesn't prolong too often. You know, does it prolong sometimes? It can.

Like, I've had them where they really, like the Mike Perry fight with the broken arm, just when you have constant reminders of it or the long injury with James Vic, those ones are tougher to overcome. But at least this one already, like my first. face is healing up, my leg is healing up, I'm walking around. You know, so I feel like I'm going to move on much quicker from this one. And it was, I did my job, man, you know, like, my biggest concern with that was getting this main event, having the UFC finally trust me, Dana White, Sean Shelby, giving me

this opportunity that I've been begging for. And then the fear, as you get closer and closer to it, is what if I shit to bed? You know what I mean? What if I go out there and Dan Hooker knocks me out in 30 seconds? and we see it happen, right, to the best guys in the world. And it's just, that shit's a reality. And that's what wears on you the whole time, no matter how prepared you are, no matter how good you are,

you just, you don't want to blow it. And sometimes we do. I'll tell you what, you certainly didn't. That's going to be, you know, it'd be a very good fight. You know, if someone knocks that off or fight of the year for me, it was an incredible display from both yourself and Dan. So, like, you certainly didn't shit the bed on that occasion. So in that regard, I'm happy.

And I feel like I did enough to win the fight, but I left it close enough for his way. So I can't really do too much complaining about it. You know, it's just, it sucks. You know, I would be in a different position if I had won that fight, but I feel like I did enough to prove that, you know, yeah, to win. And, but I feel like I've guaranteed myself at least another chance to have another main event spot before I'm

agreed. Totally agreed. What did Dana White say? Do you have you spoken to him or Sean Shelby or McMainer or anyone directly? I haven't talking directly to Danny yet, but I did talk to Sean right after the fight. No. First thing he said is don't go retiring on me

right after the fight and we talked about the fight and just how much he loved it and I asked him, you know, before they announced it, I was like, fight it a night and he's like yeah, like no-brainer for that. And then he sent me a really nice text message. I won't say any of the details, but not pushing me one way or the other,

just thanking me for what had happened. And, you know, if I just decide to be a dad and hang it up, then it supports me. But he's got some interesting things that he's going to want to be calling me about in the future. And hopefully you pick up that call, so what he said. We mentioned at UFC, Dublin, and the online traction was absolutely huge, you know, loads of Irish fans, a lot of our listeners here in Eurobash. The general team, and I think 90% of the people who've talked about UFC Dublin, have mentioned one name and one name only to headline that event, and that is you,

Paul Felder. You know, what would that mean to you to fight in front of the loudest crowds in the world here in Dublin, Ireland, as a headline? I feel like that's one of those bucket list things that I've got to check off now. you know, I've invaded all these countries where everybody's out to have me lose. It'd be nice to go to one where I feel like I got a lot of support and a lot of fan base to go there and rock that house over in Dublin, man, and maybe rock some green shorts for that one would be a dream come true for sure, man.

To just smell the beer spilling in that place would be out of control. Because Duke is so, so keen for it to hop and, you know, Duke out of being in a group text message. making sure you came on and did everything possible in your power to get that position on the card. You know, they don't come along every day. We know that. We haven't had a UFC here in five years. You said it's a bucket list moment. Would it be an emotional moment?

Could that be the one where you, you know, maybe fighting Dublin and then maybe walk away from the sport? Would you look at it as something like that? I don't know. I feel like after the energy of fighting in Dublin, it would just make me want to keep on fighting, especially if I can get another win, then, you know, as long as we're moving up the ladder and progressing and making money and staying in the top 10, the top five, you know, that's what's keeping me around. If I ever feel like I'm becoming a journeyman or I'm fighting the guys on the lower rungs and they're kind of working me out, that's when I'll retire when I feel like I'm not the marquee, you know what I mean? When I'm feeling I'm not the guy selling the fight, then it's time to be done. listen it sounds to me is like you're nowhere near done by what you're what you're saying here

i just i just need some donuts and and a couple beers and and get a little fat and start shaming myself and then when i start shaming myself i start working out hard and then i want to fight and i'll be counting my manager non-stop to let me know what's next that that's usually how it works i'm always thinking these things after a loss it's just i you know it was the main event i got to speak after the fight so i was emotional so a lot of stuff came out that's that's kind of always on my mind anyway you know as a almost 36 year old athlete who's taking some big injuries i feel like we're all always wondering you know when when is the last one i don't think you realize how popular you are in ireland is that is that fair to say yeah because

you say that to me and then you know the only times i really see too much stuff is is whenever connor says something and then i get all the his bands and all the negativity so i feel like unfortunately the real supporters over there get kind of washed away by the haters. I think you did yourself a lot of favours at that time in Belfast. We're very, very gracious with your time and with a lot of the fans.

I think a lot of people sort of warmth you in Belfast and I think you were buying beers for everyone as well at the bar in Belfast. But listen to me. You know, that's something I think everyone here would love to see Paul Feller in a headline event in Dublin, definitely. Because we don't have any, you know,

too many names here in the UFC at the moment. Ireland but I got to ask you know what has Christine said what has you know Duke said about you continue to fight do they still do your does your mum Marion do they still want you to fight on well what's what's their feelings

everybody in my life at this point is okay with either either way my mom probably more okay with me hanging it up than anybody else obviously obviously my coaches think I still have

a lot left Duke is more pissed off than anybody I know about this fight. He, you know, he's upset. He thinks that, you know, we pulled it off and we had a great performance as well as I do. But that's my coach's job, right? He's got my back. They're getting pissed off for me, so I can just kind of let it be what it is. But I'd say the majority of people don't think that I'm done.

Well, do you think that you're done? you know i know i know you're going to disagree with me now and i say this but what you know once a fighter does start mentioning retirement a lot of times you you sort of go you know maybe maybe he should retire no yeah of course but i think it depends on what kind of performances that that athlete is putting on right i feel like if you're getting knocked out multiple times in a row and you're starting to talk about retirement you should most definitely retire i mean we're talking i was coming off of a win streak and argue won the fight in a five round main event.

It's like, well, that could be a little premature. But in the moment, I was just upset. You know, I was disappointed, and I missed my daughter. I wanted to get home. You know, I kind of got caught up in that limelight a little bit and wore my emotions on my sleeve a little too much. I think, you know, we did speak about this all fair before we came on. I think people, sometimes it's very easy to forget what you guys go through

in the journey before the fight getting there. You know, I'm in regular contact with you. I know how much weight you have to cut. It's not a three-month process. It's a three-month bloody diet where you have to eat very, very sensibly and carefully. Is that something maybe you feel as though the fans would, and maybe media in general,

just take that on board when they're speaking to guys that, you know, these guys go through a lot, huge amounts for our entertainment effectively. Yeah, especially the guys that, cut significant weight, you know, it's a, it's not only do I have to train, you know, I train most days, five days, five days a week, I train two times a day, and then once or twice on, on Saturday. But, uh, it's a, it's a bitch, man. Yeah. It's a, it's a whole two, two plus month diet where I'm not, I'm not cheating, man. You've seen these meals like every day. It's not like on,

Saturday, I'm like, ah, I dieted it really good this week. I'm going to go have a couple cheat meals. It's like, no, there's a cheat meal to me would be like, if I let myself have a tablespoon of peanut butter that I wasn't supposed to have in my macros that day, it's, I'll be wearing that shit in the morning, you know what I mean? I'll be looking even more muscular in the morning because I went and had too many carbs the night before. And it's just, it's, it's a science project to do it where I feel healthy. And this weight cut was miraculous. Yeah, Ilarios did a great job. Did a great job.

But even then, the day of Wayans, I still cut seven and a half pounds. Shit. Because it was a Friday night weighing, so I woke up. And I had, yeah, it was like seven, a little over seven pounds cut. So it wasn't like, it wasn't like, oh, it was such a good weight cut. He only cut a couple pounds. It was like, and then I still cut six and a half or whatever it was. And then I thought it would float the rest on the way to the Wayans.

I still had to get to the sauna at the hotel and cut half a pound. So it was like, I, in future, I'm going to give you a little bit more leeway when you're grumpy as fuck with me in the buildup to fight week because I know how tough it is for you guys

and we do appreciate what you guys do. Listen to me, just a couple more before I let you go and I do appreciate the time as always, Paul. What is next dude? Like, you know, is there a name there? You know, Ally Quint is a guy, I know you've mentioned,

he's mentioned you. There's a whole host of names in that $155 pound of vision. I'm presuming. you want to get on that Dublin card, as you said. Is that all right the man that fancies your tickle? Yeah, I like that fight, right?

That fight was supposed to happen. I know Duke wants a rematch and I would like that too, but I don't see that happening. I think obviously the way that the UFC's going to go. Dan did get the win and it was all fair and square so I feel like he's going to end up fighting Porier and that leaves Connor, Gagee and cowboy above me and obviously not fighting cowboy.

I don't see Gagey wanting that fight, especially if I'm coming off a loss. So it really limits what I'm, obviously, I want those bigger names, but I don't see myself getting those bigger names just because that's just how the cookie crumbles in this sport. And Al came right out and said, you know, he wanted that fight. And I feel like that's a fight that gets me excited just because that's something the fans have won it. He brings it every single time. I bring it. You give us a main event somewhere.

We're going to. What do you mean somewhere? What do you mean somewhere? somewhere. Come on. Yeah, but exactly. You keep pushing for it. I want it. I'll take it, but we'll see what happens, right? Paul, listen, I'm,

it's always a pleasure to speak to, and I do appreciate the time, and I know it's obviously been a tough week for you, and, you know, wonderful fights, and if you do decide a call a day, it doesn't seem like you are. It's been an absolute pleasure. I always appreciate the time, my friend. No, thanks for having me, man. You know I always got time for you, bro.

always a pleasure to have Paul Felder on the show The Dragano Yelandez. Yes, oh is that, is that that, that's how you say The Irish Dragon? I don't fucking know, I'm not Spanish. Jesus, that was very impressive.

No, but it's, you know, I think as well, we have to sort of mention the online traction and, you know, weight behind the fan support for Paul. Oh, he's in a better place than ever, even though he's coming off a loss. Yeah, and I think everyone, like, did you see the post he put out

about UFC Dublin? I'm due a trip to Dublin soon. Yeah, yeah. The amount of traction, man, and Irish fans actually commenting on that saying, we want you to headline, we want you to headline, we want you to headline,

it's unbelievable. The amount of Irish pubs just ordering crates against us as soon as they see this, Jesus Christ, but even like I went across the road there last night for a few jars, and even the, you know,

the barman, he wouldn't be mad into the UFC, one of the owner, he was going, oh, geez, that fight was unbelievable with Paul and Dan, he watched it online, and legally, I hope,

but it was, it was an incredible fighting, you know, if Paul's considered him retiring, listen, best of luck to him, he's had a fantastic career and he's, I'll tell you what, one tough son of a bitch. Absolutely.

Let's talk about this Ariel O'Anne reporting last week that McGregor and Gaii are in preliminary talks for a summer bout. Dana White still seems to be keen on the Namauga-Madoff fight, which seems weird with them fighting in April, right? How do you feel about it? Do you like the Gachi fight? No, I don't know. I think it's a big risk for Connor and his stock, you know, if he is to go in and fight Gachi and lose to Gachi. I still think we're more likely to see Connor at 170 pounds

until that rematch or potential rematch against Habib happens obviously if Tony wins I think they'll do Connor Tony but I just don't see I think there's an awful offer him to lose if he fights at 155 and loses

you know he's not going to get that title shot if he loses to Gagee I wouldn't be surprised if it's 170 Kavana was asking for 170 straight after the Soroni fight I mean I don't see the problem with it like I mean they're going to going to give them a title fight when they want to

anyway, you know, like... But if you lose it's to Gajee, they won't. Oh, no, absolutely not. But I think, is it a more winnable fight than the likes of Mazvedal who was pushed around a lot in the, in the immediate aftermath of Seroni and beforehand?

Because I'm hearing about ways, I'm hearing McGregor fans saying, this is a perfect matchup for Connor. I'm hearing Gagey fans saying, this is a perfect matchup for Gagee. I agree, yeah, that has been branded around a lot. I'm like, which one fucking is it, let's? Well, I just think he's at a stage now. I love the fight, by the way.

Like, I mean, in terms of two guys, two animals, like, tough dudes who are savage strikers, I mean, it would be a spectator. Oh, it would be a deadly fight, but, like, I'm just thinking, is there too much to lose for Connor there in terms of going forward for a big money fight? Like, let's be honest, I think if you fights, you know, obviously if Habib beats Tony Ferguson, that's going to be the biggest fight ever. Like, the amount of people that are going to tune in for that, I think that's going to break any record in terms of paper-revee sales.

No, no, Habib and Connor, if a rematch, if a rematch does. does happen if Habib can get over Tony which I you know I think a lot of people are writing off Tony it's just it's just

very bizarre they're just you can understand what people are like favoring their magamade off based on what he's doing yeah Tony's gonna beat him though I know you and Sean

Alshaddy have been sticking by these guns for a long time but what I wanted to say to you was what did you want to say to me the the um the fact that you're saying like money fights etc I think the Soroni

fight proved that Connor doesn't really need to fight you know a select few people to make money. I mean, if he's making, if he's clearing a million pay-per-views with that ESPN thing in place against Saroni, I think he does a million against Sauron. Well, no, I think there was a difference with that Soroni fight. I think he'll come back, yeah, people want, the intrigue. Exactly. People wanted to see his Connor back. Is this a Connor of Ovalbach? And I don't know if you're going to get that against, you know, the likes of Justin Gates

or someone like that, people just might have a pass and casual interest and not go ahead and purchase the pay-per-view. If Ferguson wasn't fighting with a title, it would be gauged though. Like, I mean, he is right there I feel. Yeah, no, I agree with you. I totally agree with you. But... So by beating him, like, I mean, there's no argument. Yeah, but I still don't know if he's going to do that. I would not be surprised if we... Like, I still... You see...

You see Rappelman, Cottonwall in life for the results. That's what my whole thing is, along that. And I think if he goes to 170, if you fight at 170, he loses at 170, there's no stock loss. At 155 there is. Right, so, but the problem is, right, if they want him fighting in summer, Habib's not going to fight in the summer.

Yeah, Ramadan. Yeah, I know. So I think it's more like you can be end of the year. Yeah. Why not? He's not going to fight six times in the year like he said he is anyway. We know that's not going to happen. Do you know what I mean? Three times, isn't it?

Yeah, like. So, yeah, I think we'd be lucky to get Connor in twice this year, you know. I don't get him once. Two more times is not crazy for me. Not crazy, but I think realistically, once more. What about summer, Gagee and then in September, October or November? Well, I'll tell you what's happened. Usman.

has gone very quiet on this whole potential match against Mazda. No? Has that not sort of died down, petered out? Yeah, well, I guess my whole thing with that was Dana White said, you know, oh, it's definitely happened in the summer and I know he foolishly was like,

all right, that's happening in summer. And I forgot all about it. I mean, I just like, yeah, that's happening in the summer. I think that's more, you know, I would not be surprised if Conner wants to go for that those men fight in the summer. Really, yeah. For the third title, like,

you think, if you think of what that would do for him, you know, Connor loves chasing. We've always said this. You know, he talked about Donald Seroni. You know, the amount of head kick knockouts he had. And for him to do that, I think it was the first time ever, Donald was finished in that manner. And you believe if he loses the Usman for the 170 title, takes no stock.

Come back in a 55 title? Exactly. That's 100% my point. And I think if you look at the Usman fight as well, like there's a good bit of beef there between those two, you know, Connor. The whole tweet situation here. Yeah, yeah. And obviously he said, you know, he was the state of him he goes when he was sitting in cage side off.

for he beat Donald. There's a bit of shit there, obviously, with the agent as well, Ali Abdel Aziz, there's no love loss there. And I just think if, you know, he was to go in and win that 170 pound title. Imagine 170 pound champion

against a 155 pound champion, it would be some story for the end of the year. Is that what you do of your UFC? That's what I do from the UFC, yeah. I think it just adds more stock to what Connor is already. No, it's interesting. I'm happy enough with the Gagey route,

but that is an interesting take it out of doubt. Let's talk about, Jose Alow getting drafted in ahead of our boy. How do you feel about that? Very upset about it. I mean, look, right? I've talked about this a bit with Casey Lloyd and Jose Youngs. I understand.

Is he? The host of the ace are. Check it out every Wednesday, 6 p.m. Irish time. But the thing is, Yon Romero is fighting Israel Adisania this weekend. Yomera has lost two fights. But there is no other person at 185 where everyone's like, he should be fighting for the toilet. this is ridiculous.

Do you know what? Why isn't this guy fighting for the title? Jan is that guy. Al Jermaine Sterling is that guy at 1.35. I just don't feel like more I've taught about this.

I just don't feel like they do that unless they're going to South Paulo on May, in May, you know? Yeah, listen, I would have liked to see Peter Jan myself. I think that, you know,

he basically decided what he wanted to do against Uri of Faber at any given time and moment. It was like he was toying with your eye in that fight. Yeah, but I didn't really expect it to be in the manner

which it was. You had the Star making power though, right? That fight was. huge in terms of fighting your own favour. And I think you know what it comes down to again as well with the UFC and maybe you haven't thought about this but I certainly thought about it.

You know, maybe it's the English language. Maybe that's why they're holding his push back. He has done very well, though, right? We've been noticing he's getting better. He has sentences. But I mean, in the space of a year when you're also competing five times in the UFC, I imagine that it's pushed to the back at the youth.

Well, it was very similar with Habib. You know, Habib did not get that initial push until he learned the language of English. Like, I think that's pretty fair to say like he was, you know, gradually, fighting guys at Pat Healy and then it was like Darrell Horch or all these guys. So that could definitely be a line of thought with the UFC. Give him six

more months, get a better grasp of the language and and... Jose Alolcanz. That is true. I think Jose can't. He's not aroused. It's just not aroused. It does make sense. It was like Anderson Silva, like, you know what I mean? He let Ed Suarez talk for him because he just couldn't be fucking arst, asking questions. I think that's basically

it. But yeah, listen, in fairness to Jose he did beat Marlon Marl Marais. Like, I don't know how anyone scored that fight for Marlon Mara Maris. Josay won up for me. so I'm not totally over the hill but I think Peter's a lot of time as well he's young Is fighting Aldo for the belt

a bigger fight than fighting Henry Suido for the belt? Say Aldo comes out Yeah, I mean it might work out right Yeah Because he does need fights against established names And although Sehudo's on a great job Of making himself a bigger name He's an idiot though

I don't like the guy He's so mine and mind Look look you say this And then you're like I don't understand I don't understand people getting so I know yeah yeah yeah I know I get it

He's a dickhead though But I get it yeah I do get it harsh let's go to a man who nobody has really ever described as a dickhead I'm sure

Joe's Suduffy one of the nicest men in the world we have not seen him for a long time since that fight with DHA last March

was that last March London yeah yeah so we're going to have a word with Joe

seems to be the theme of this week's episode is they're all want to get on this Dublin card but very interesting

with Joe obviously because he had been in that spot before against Dustin Porre. It seemed like the world was opening up in front of Joseph Duffy, but unfortunately an injury then ruled him out of it.

Noel talked to him area this week. We're going to hear from Joe and we'll be back to talk about what happened last weekend. It's been a while since I've spoken and caught out with this man all the way out there in Montreal, in Canada. I think his last bout was about this time last year at UFC, London or coming up to it when he dropped a decision against Mark GK. See, it is the wonderful and charming Mr Joseph Duffy. Joseph, how are you, my friend? Always good to catch up.

How's everything in Montreal? I believe you're snowed in. Oh, Jesus, at a while, better snow here, and I'll. All good other than that. Sick of shoveling, sick of shoveling. I think we've lots to catch up on about Joe. A lot of people, obviously, talking about you this week after the announcement. I think it was about 10 days ago of UFC Dublin.

They're eager to know where Mr. Joseph Duffy's at. What's been going on in Canada, Joe? Not a pile, not a pile. Just, you know, obviously recovering from a prolonged injury and just trying to get back into the groove of thing, you know. It's starting to feel good. I've been able to put some consistent training in now. And, you know, things are clicking back into place.

So I'm excited to get back out there. I don't know if you want to talk about it. But what was the injury? What was the issues? And I know you've been, you know, obviously I've been in touch with you a little bit. it's been kind of frustrating for you in terms of not being able to really go at it in the gym. That's it, yeah, I had the rib injury that I injured. I think it was, let me see, November 2018, I was meant to fight in Australia and the rib put me out.

And it's just been kind of dragging on since. so like every time I would train if I got hitting it it would put it back to square one wrestling was an issue grappling was an issue certain movements and I just found like I would start training then it would get injured start training and I just felt like I was digging myself out

a hole all the time you know I couldn't get consistent so I went out to the PI Heather was working on me out there you know she's one of the physios in the PI you know, head her in incredible.

Incredible. You know, she's always, she's always great. And she gave me a bit of advice. So I got some prolotherapy and that helped. And, you know,

I'm just trying to train smart and look after it. And so far, so good. So, you know, if it keeps going this way, great. You know, just... Did it affect you there

against Marchia Casey? Because, like, I'm going to be honest, you know, I thought it was a very underwhelming performance from you and you were a long way away probably from your best

in that fight. It was a very underwhelming performance, that's for sure. Like, I definitely wasn't myself in there. Like, I'm not, I'm not somebody who likes to blame injuries. You know, like Mark's game plan was great, you know, he came out, he took

my leg away, so I think that played a big part too. But in terms of camp, it didn't help, you know, I injured it maybe five weeks before the fight, so I couldn't do no live work, you know, wrestling or striking or sparring or nothing you know it was just a case of padwork and conditioning and like I said like I'm not blaming that saying that's the reason I lost because Mark came out with

a good game plan but uh you know maybe maybe that's why my timing was a little bit off like I felt like I was seeing the shots but like I wasn't reacting well you know and how are you now Joseph is everything good now and are you looking to get back in there yeah everything's great like I said, I've been getting some consistent training and like my weight's good and you know, I'm happy to be back in the gym which is always a big positive. So without a doubt, like as soon as I seen that Ireland card

like my eyes lit up because after getting pulled from the last run, you know, it's something that's really haunted me, you know, like just I want to get that fight on on home soil, especially like UFC Dublin and it's a landmark event. We'll talk about that more in a second. I've got to obviously ask you as well.

You know, you've become a dad since then, you've little Laura. I know your life's changed, obviously, a drastic amount. You've been on text to me saying you want 20 more. But listen to me, does your perspective change once a kid comes in to the mix as well? Is that fair to say? Because, you know, I often speak with Paul Felder and a lot of the other lads who have kids

and it seems to sort of mellow them out a little bit in terms of their fighting career. Yeah, your perspective definitely changes. Obviously, your priorities change too. Like, first, like, pretty much since I was a kid. Like, I remember in my teenage years, fighting, I was obsessed, you know? That's all I'd done was trained.

Like, I didn't go out too much. Like, I was just always in the gym. And it got more and more serious as I stepped up and level. So, you know, when a kid comes on the scene, like a, it kind of a fighter no longer becomes your priority, you know, which is

something that was strange for me. Definitely, definitely. And she's a very cute kid as well. Very cute kid. Maybe she's not mine. I don't know. I don't know where she got that from, but yeah. Joseph, I'll have to keep an eye on the mail man.

Quality, quality, quality. Joseph, I have to ask you, obviously, you mentioned there, you know, yourself that that's haunted you. You know, I remember speaking to you in Dublin literally moments after the announcement was made, and, you know, it was a terrible weekend to see you so upset. So you were sort of listless, I think, going around Dublin in the three arena. I know how much that fight obviously meant you at the time. Talk to me more about that. Is it about redemption, you know, coming back and actually fighting in the three arena under the UFC's banner and writing those wrongs that happened? that's part of it

there's doubt you know because you know you can you fight it all over the world like a like

MSG or the O2 like these these kind of landmark arenas but but it doesn't doesn't compare

you know fighting on home soil here in the crowd on that night and and knowing you know

it would have been my first main event under the UFC's banner and obviously a quality opponent you know against Dustin

Parre. It was a fight that people was excited for and a fight I was excited for. So, so without a doubt, like it's about writing them wrongs and, and, you know, I would do anything to get on that card, you know, like I just, I want to, I want to fight on the UFC in Ireland and I want to, I just want to feel that atmosphere because, you know, watching it from the crowd, it was, it was incredible, but heartbreaking at the same time because I felt like I should be in the octagon feeling this, know. I feel and obviously knowing you, you know, considerably well over the years and, you know, I've on text to you quite regularly and we speak quite a lot. I feel as though maybe this has really sort of lit a fire, lit some smoke. It's really sort of maybe rejuvenated to appoint the

announcement of this car that you really just want to go for it and you just really want to bloody get back in there. Has a lit fire in your belly? Without a doubt, you know, just like I said, like to write that wrong and just to feel that atmosphere and something to be excited about like like how can I not be excited about that event that that show in Ireland especially after going through fight week thinking I was fighting and then you know to get the news on the Wednesday night I'm pretty much on wait I done a whole camp and you know it was uh it was a very empty feeling whereas now like like I kind of I got a chance to to feel that again but actually for it to happen, you know.

You know, obviously it's a long way out. It's a number of months, yes. But I sort of have to ask you this one as well. You're obviously under dominance MMA, under Ali Abdel-Aziz, you know, his management team. Do you think being under Ali and being under his management puts you in a strong position to get a prominent position on this card? I hope so, you know.

Ali is incredible. Like, just if you spend a day with him and you see how hard he works for his fighters, then, you know, I think it would change a lot of opinions, a lot of people's opinion, because he really does work so hard for his fighters and he really does back them regardless. You know, when lose or draw, he's in their corner. And I'm sure, like as soon as I seen an announcement, I text Ali to try and get on the card, and I'm sure he'll do everything in his power to get me on there.

Yeah, you know, have you heard Anthony back from Ali? As of any word from the UFC about potentially having you on this card? we know, you know, obviously, we've your good pal there, Connor McGregor, but he's not going to fight in Dublin. I think that's pretty much fair to say. It'd be a big, big surprise if he was to fight in Dublin. You know, we need guys from this country on this card, in my opinion. It's always the theme with the UFC on these, you know, European shows. Have you heard anything back from Dana White, Sean Shelby, the UFC, anything about a potential fight on this card? No, I haven't heard anything back. Obviously, like Ali will take care of that side of things.

you know but uh like like i said i contacted him and told him like how how much i really want to be on this card so i'm sure i'm sure he's taking care of that side of things just like i said just seeing him uh working just one day like uh i can imagine he's already been on to them and uh and they're probably discussing options and so on joseph i know you're on two fights skids and and everyone knows your ability and how much of a good mixed martial artist you are obviously you're supposed to headline the three arena before. Do you feel like that is a realistic possibility that you may headline even this event? I don't know is the truth.

Like, that's my answer. Especially, like, I haven't lost my last two. Like, whether the UFC feel I'm a big enough draw, you know, obviously there's some exciting fights they could put on that, you know, like, I feel like I'm an exciting fighter. and they put me on the card against a good exciting name, then we'll put on a great show regardless. I know you're not one to call out fighters, but who are those exciting names you think you'd be matched well against?

There's lots of exciting. You look at the lightweight division, how many just exciting strikers there is, you know, like there's endless. I know on Twitter, like just from speaking with YouTube, the amount of people that's been saying about me and Paul. Paul Felder, yeah, obviously. Yeah, and that, well, you told me this. Yeah, it was a fight. It was a fight the UFC. We're talking about Dune. If you had it got over against Gagey, we're talking about Dune on a European card here, potentially. So do you feel as though that's something they could possibly run back? Paul,

in fairness to Paul hasn't really addressed what he's doing with his career yet. He's told me, that he's only interested in taking five rounds, events, and fights that only excite him. And I'm sure a UFC Dublin main event would excite him. And I think he tweeted something in relation to that as well. That's it. Like, I wasn't aware that they were trying to make that fight back then. So maybe it's true. Maybe it's not.

I'm not sure. But if that's something that made sense to Paul and some. think that made sense to the UFC as a main event and obviously the fans you know if it made sense to the fans and of course you know like I'm going to step up and and as I'm sure Paul would you know obviously like you said I'm on a two-fight skid so I'm a bit down the down the peck in order but one thing one thing I can assure is that like I'll come to fight and that then we'll put on a good show I've got to ask you I mentioned names and I know you a guy who doesn't watch an awful lot of mixed martial arts because you're always in the gym yourself.

But, do you know, we talk about Irish guys and having Irish guys in the cards. And there's only, you know, yourself and Connor that are actually signed to the UFC that are from, you know, the Republic of Ireland at the moment. Do you feel as though, the UFC, and I know, you know a few guys in this scene here, obviously you've been around for a long time. Do you feel as though the UFC are going to make more signings, local signings? I think so. I think especially watching Cage wires and seeing their push back on Ireland too. You know, there's a couple of guys there who could be signed for sure. Like, Reese McKee is flying, like his last performance, you know,

to stop a guy pretty much with a jab. And I've been to Riesa Sparerrease. I know just high level he is. You know, I definitely think he's ready. He's ready for the UFC. And I think obviously after K2ers in Belfast, all being well, which I'm sure will be, I'm sure that he'll get a shout and he'll be on that Dublin card too. I know you've, you know, I know, I know Reese was overworking with you guys in TriStar and Farras and yourself and you guys obviously get on very well.

How much improvement have you seen this game? You know, how far do you think he can go? Because there's a lot of hype here in Ireland, obviously about Reese over the years. And I think more obviously now with this sort of spotlight on that Cage Warriors card ahead of UFC Dublin. I'm not sure is the truth like he always had great striking anyway I witnessed that first hand to spy him he was he was very good it's actually something I feel I should have like somebody I should have tried to bring out for the Vic fight because he had such good strike in a nice range you know he would have been the perfect perfect sparring partner for the Vic fight and I I'm just, you know, seeing him, he was a professional, you know, when he came out,

there was no messing around, like he came to train and he was working hard all time, as I'm sure he is now, so I'm sure he's made huge improvements in his game. So, Joseph, just before I let you go, and I do appreciate the time, as always, my friend. So you're expecting to get on this card is basically the bottom line. You've reached out to Ali. Are you 100% sure you're going to be on this card? because I thoroughly believe that you deserve it and you should be on it

and obviously it's a no-brainer from the fans' point of view. We've seen all the traction on Twitter people talking about yourself and Paul and plenty of other fights but the people want you on this card it's a no-brainer right? Well, I'd like to think so obviously like you said there's not many

of us from Ireland that's signed to the UFC at the minute so I'm not going to say for sure because I don't make them decisions you know it's up to Sean and Dana and them guys who you know what makes sense for the card but obviously I think it makes sense

and I'm hoping I can I can just be on there and be a part of that card and obviously you know keep pushing Irish MMA forward definitely I think the scenes in a great place at the moment and then you be a no-brainer in my opinion to having a prominent position on that card listen Joe go enjoy the snow

go enjoy changing the nappies. It's always a pleasure to speak to you, and I'm looking forward to you, hopefully seeing you here in August for that Dublin card on a prominent position on that fight night. Thanks, Naila. I really appreciate it.

And there was no Floyd Way champion crown this weekend because Davis and Figuero did not make weight. Joseph Benavides did make weight, but unfortunately, it did not go his way. And I felt... He's just cursed.

He's never going to win a car. I felt an out part of emotion for Joseph Benavides after this fight because he is very well-liked in the AMA community. I don't really like him. What? Yeah, no.

He was just a bit of it. Well, he was just a bit rude to one of our colleagues before the media day. I found it very strange. Do tell. He just basically said, don't call me Joe. My name is Joseph. So when you're acting like that, you know. Andrew Cole?

It was to our good friend from Manchester. And that's all I'll say. Oh, Johnny Shrags. Sorry. Come on, you can't. Who doesn't like Johners? Lovely man. But I've spoke to Joseph a good few times.

He's a nice fella. I get it. I think he's nice. very, very nice man. There's only one nice Joseph in the USC. Talk to Joe. Talk to Joe. But, um, yeah, look, it seemed like there was a clash of heads at a right cross and

it was all over. Tough one for Joey B. Tough one for the flyweight division, more importantly. It's, it's detrimental, isn't it? It's a disaster. Like, you know, Figueroa, obviously missing way for the first time. Figaroidio. That was, Figaroidio, Figaroidoo.

Missing way for the first time in his career in probably the most. biggest fight you'll ever have. And Dana White being like straight away, this is unprofessional. And it is. You can't say any more than that. And it is. That was the sort of, I was going, shit, you know, it's going to happen now. There's no way Joseph Benavides is going to win that fight. The fly weights are cursed.

That's pretty much it for me. Do you think the division is on its way out? That's the fourth nail in the coffin. Yeah. Like what? Like, what do? It's a disaster. It's a disaster. It's a disaster. And yeah, I just don't see

way back for the flyaway to now. I really don't. It's unfortunate, but I think that's what Dane is going to be thinking as well, especially after Friday. Felicia Spencer absolutely dominated Zara Fern from France, one-sided as it gets. People are

are going to debate, and like, if this 145 title is still active, will it be Megan Anneson? Megan Anderson beat Norma Dumont earlier in the night with a Roy Cross, chaos. She got a figure out of both as well. So, who would you put in? I'd put in Felicia, to be honest. One of them, yeah, I don't, like,

I think it's hard to really get invested in this division. There's not enough people. Not enough people in there. There's not even a ranking on the UFC dot com page. It's just obviously Amanda Nunes I don't know. It's one of these things. They need to shit or get off the pot with the Federal Weight

Division and it looks more likely to me that they're getting off the pot than having a shit because it's it's not happening like it isn't and I just this pisses me off because we constantly go around in circles and it's the same with the fly as well as we were saying there like it's you know what are you doing you know be decisive uh you know

put together a plan instead of just sort of you know tickling the bear and not doing nothing about it it's it's just bonkers make a decision some serious analogies there from normal a series of analogies yeah um fuck it let's talk about maga med ankle off and oyan kutila but there's a very differing opinions here um it's a messy it's a mess there's no doubt about it the situation's a mess and it's a tricky stoppage. Look, you, you don't agree with the stoppage. No. Because he didn't, he, he's kicked him three times in the head, but he's, he's blocked every, every shot of them. It's sort of hit his hands. And like, the referee is, the referee's job not to see that. Like, how is he hurt? But that's what I don't understand. I know you think it's different because, well, I think if I'm, if I'm, if I'm

putting myself on the referee issues there. And look, like, I mean, I don't think this is perfect in any way, but I can't criticize the referee for looking around and seeing a guy that's on queer history as far as he knows. He's like, he's rocked. He looks rocked. He's out on his feet. He's wobbling all over the place and he continues to wobble. Like usually you're kind of waiting for a guy to kind of regain senses. He looks as bad from when he gets hit or not get hit, whatever the fuck happened, the head kick. He starts wobbling. He's throws a few digs. He's still wobbling. He doesn't look like he's recovered at all. Look, the stoppage could have came earlier. Like if you're just going to stop him from a fellow wobbling like that. I think the referee has to

has to step in there. If he thinks the guy is out on his feet like that, he has to protect him. If Kutalaba did this and he did say afterwards it was game plan, etc. Make sure you talk to the ref before you go in and you say, look mate, as soon as I eat shots here,

I'm going to be fucking putting on a front to make this fella exchange with me. Just so many, like I just think it's idiotic. Like, as I said to you earlier, it's like being in a grappling match and pretending to tap out and then them stop in the fight and you're like, oh, sorry, mate. Do you know what they're looking for stopping the fight?

stopping the fight like i get your points but should the referee maybe not be more clued in and what you know actually seeing where the connection was made no yeah but i mean you're also dealing in split seconds there like i'm sure i'm sure the guys often don't see the punch that has the fellow foul on the ground don't see the full connection of it like to be honest i i i listen to john mccarty big john mccarty's podcast for the first time ever today just the list of his take on it and he goes the referee should know he was acting sorry i is the fucking academy i is the hollywood foreign fucking press or he's referees. All you're going to be dealing with is fucking brain damage here.

That's what you're looking out for. To say this fella should know if this guy's acting or not. I think that's way beyond the college. That is a bit wild. So that's just how I feel about. Look, I get it. I get it when people are like, oh, I didn't like the stoppage.

I thought the fight could have gone on. And look, after Ion Kood de Lab is saying that, yeah, it could have. But you can't say get rid of this referee. He should never work again. Like I've seen Dickhead saying online because he's stopping a guy that he thinks has been rattled. That's a bad narrative. I mean last week we're talking about

how isn't Caroline his fight being stopping where's the corner where's the referee and this week we're going that fucking referee stuff and fair enough fair enough

I get your I get your take on it yeah oh you get it's messy though I'm not trying to say it's very messy what's they do now like to do rematch

what do I guess you have to rematch don't you but um like I mean I don't know I feel like the referee I don't think he's had a hell

there I think it's a messy messy messy messy result but yeah no you sort of persuaded me a bit there and now from what you said so I can understand

that point yeah it was messy as fuck there's no doubt about it. I think we all would have preferred to be a cleaner finish you know, clean or stuff. Well, true, yeah.

But as you said, you know, you've made me think about it there when you've mentioned Carolina last week and, um, well,

I feel like we have to have a big whinge the MMA community every week and this would just happen to be this week's. We do, there's fucking bitching a moment fucking fire him. No one disgusting that is.

People calling for people's jobs. It's fucking gross. For you, bitches. You can't fire me. Oh, he made the BBC. Tom Breeze did not look himself at all. I was very disappointed.

Um, look I think Brendan Allen's very good fighter there's no doubt about it but I see Tom Breeze when he is at the peak of his powers he looks absolutely unbelievable doesn't he yeah that was not the Tom Breeze we've come to know the guy's a ground wizard and he's just got he just got beaten alive um just didn't seem to to have that get up and go in him at all he'd won't attempt I think of a triangle uh barely and Alan just whooped him you know I don't know what's up with Tom it's it's it's tough to see a guy with so much potential

come nowhere near his best. But you know what I was thinking, and I agree with you, but I was thinking, like, maybe you just need to get this one out of the way, because it's been two years, there been so many questions about what happened, these London cards. You know, I think he needed to get in there and get it done, and I think he should be commended for

that, given the situation, or what we're hearing about the situation. And maybe this is something he can build off, the fact he got in there. Yeah, well, he's back in there. It's a start, as you said, and... He's still 11 and 2, like, that's a serious record. Look,

we've seen him do. Yeah, when he's been good, man, he's been, you know, a one-time guy we were probably talking about as a world champion.

I can remember that before, before a London card he fought, I think it might have been a second UFC fight. Carl? No, it was after Cole. It was,

no, call was the second UFC fight, was it? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, he lost to Sean Strickland as well. Yeah, sorry, it was after call when he fought Kate and Nakamura.

Okay, at UFC London. And at the time, Ariel was still what I'm in my fighting and I can remember we were doing the preview show outside the O2

and it was me and Simon Head and all we were talking about was Breeze and fucking Bisping was fighting Anderson Silva at the top of that card Joe we were like yeah that's brilliant

but this is the guy this is the next guy 50 Gs for Breeze in it it is sometimes well that's what we used to say you know and yeah it's just it's just disappointing

but at the end of the day if you look at Tom and you've seen his potential as we've talked about there you know he's not going to be a million miles away it's about as you maybe said getting that out of the way.

And, you know, maybe a quick, quick turnaround now. Probably a bit early, late for UFC, London, but maybe sometime in the summer. I think they should keep wiping that careful, well. Yeah, definitely agree. But look, I mean, look, Tom lost a fight. The stuff he's doing at Renegade there is unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I mean, he's the head coach there.

It's an incredible team. One of the best teams in Europe as far as I'm concerned. I think it's a bigger picture for Tom. Like, it's not just about, you know, he's very passionate about his jiu-jitsu as well, obviously. But I think he'll be, that's going to disappoint him most. just the ground situation there. Like he's usually such a loyver off his back. Listen, we must, we must, you know,

take our hats off to Brendan Allen as well. Absolutely. Fabulous performance. Obviously, he's... Dominant. It was a dominant. Dominance. That's the words you could use, you know. I never felt he was in a bad spot, really, you know, maybe the triangle at him. But I never felt like, oh, here it's...

Nah, not at all. And they've done a great job with him down there in Rufusport. So, you know, a guy to watch, definitely. I think he should keep your eyes on that kid. He's a young lot. well. 13 and 1, I think he is. 14 and 3.

14 and 3, sorry. Marcy and Tabura from Poland put on a really workman-like performance against Sergei Spivak, two Europeans going head to heads. We don't like the domestics, lads. But as it happened earlier, later on with Ankleff and Kudi Laba, it does happen. He was very dominant, but I felt his top position was great. But that's pretty much everything that happened on that card, I believe, from a European perspective. Oh, sorry, Sean Brady, Ireland's own, takes out Ismail Nordiev.

I thought he would look great here, Brady. I thought he looked savage, man. I'm telling you, watch out for that guy. He looked really good. He looked way better than he did in his debut. I think he was a little bit of nerves in my debut. But Ismail's a savage. Like, I think he's really good, the Austrian Wonder Boy.

And that's a huge scalp for him. Straight off the bat there, Brady. Again, all European with Sean Brady being Irish, of course. I'm telling you, watch out for Brady, man. I'm telling you, this guy's a young lad as well. Mike and L. Sneaky Dublin shout that lad. He's definitely one to watch for the future, no doubt about it. Family from Cabra, I believe.

Churchdown. Sean's good lad. But yeah. So will we go on to our third interview of the day? No. Looking on to next weekend, it is Jack Cartroy. A man I wanted to ask questions about for so long. He shot into...

Just about his hair. I did. I was going to get to that. He shot into the consciousness of European M.A. when he showed up at that unplug show in September last year and starched Scott Malone and Marco Kovacevich to get the title had just been vacated by Jack Schur. sure. He looked unbelievable, man.

Oh, he was taking heads tonight. Have you ever, he reminds me in Nail Siri. He scares the shit out of me. I think I'll be very terrified. I told him that as well immediately. I was like, listen, I'm terrified. Smaller guys just scared his shit out, you don't they? And he has that hair as well.

So, I mean, it's a wild card. I was like, definitely keep the hair, though, because it's unique. You need something unique. Why not let it be that? Oh, yeah, definitely. What's my uniqueness, Pete? Duls of Tones, obviously. Come on.

All right. Okay. Hashtag Dulceal tones. Here we go. The radio voice is back on. Everybody, yeah, everyone's like, but Noel, geez, he sounds great, doesn't he? I'm like, what's that meant? Why he's trying to say about me?

Then they see me. It's a different story. I just look like shit and sound like shit. I keep it real. You're beautiful. Right, look, we'll get on to Jack. I spoke to Jack about, obviously, his meteoric rise, his first toil defense,

how he wants to fight on that Belfast card. May, thank you very much, sign me up. And, of course, Tyson Fury's win. He's a huge Toys and Fury fan. He lives only 10 miles away from Toys and Fury. He used a train. we're here with jury. So very interesting stuff from Jack Cartwright and we will be back shortly. And now we are joined by a man that I've been doing to speak to a man who shot into our hearts and minds last September when he came in and he took out Scott Malone and Marco Kovasavich to claim the Cage Warriors bantamweight title.

For my money, he's the most intimidating champion on all of Cage Warriors roster at the moment. It is none other than Jack Cartwright. Jack, how are you, my friend? Yes, I'm good. I'm good, nice. I'm very good. Thank you. Yes, I have so many questions. I mean, before this event, back in September, the Cage Warriors Unplugged event, they had that four-man series for that vacant Bantamweight title. And to be honest, you were the least known guy that I'd heard of out of all those guys. I'd seen most of these guys fight for Cage Warriors titles before.

You come in and you put Malone and Kovacevic out in one round to claim the title. How good did that feel? Yeah, man, it felt very good. It felt very good. Like you say, I was at least known and a least favorite going into the tournament. So it felt sweet to work there and do it in such definitive fashion and just prove myself to everybody who didn't already know what I was capable of. But yeah, it was great.

Like, the one thing I know is straight away, like your record said 5 and 0, but I was like, this guy has been fighting a lot longer than 5 and 0. Can you tell me about your background? I just feel like you're such a sophisticated striker. You've had to have done some stroking before you came in there into MMA. Yeah, I started doing martial arts when I was five. I started just like knocking at a kickbox season when I was five. Just for fitness and just getting in shape.

And I just like fighting, so I just jumped in there. And then I started wrestling when I was nine. And then really got the buck for competing and started competing all over. I started competing in the national when I was 10. And wrestling? And then, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm like,

internationally when I was 10 years old. I went to Russia when I was 10 in my first international tournament and then I wrestled until I was like 16, 17 years old. And like you just said, I've got a box since I were 14 as well. So I've always been babbling in martial arts. So like I said, I've only had five professional fights,

but I've got a big catalogue of martial arts down in the real. That is incredible, man. I can't believe that wrestling would be your dominant skill set then, right, if you've been doing it that long. Yeah. I'm looking at you like you're a stroke because you're just knock and goes dead

every time you touch them. Yeah, yeah, man. I'm a wrestler, man. I'm a wrestler. That's insane. Yeah, I'm a wrestling, first and foremost, wrestling with, like,

my first love in martial arts. I'd obviously grew up loving boxing and, like, I'd stay up and watch all the five idolized boxing through and up, and I loved having a scrap. I was on the way of the scrapper. But actual, I was actual, like,

competition-wise, I was a wrestler's birth, man, yeah. And then I was, transitioned along the way to boxing and out there. It's so rare to see people have that kind of impact on someone when they connect with a punch at your weight division specifically. And that was one thing that is just stuck with me.

I've watched the Malone and Kovacevic fights so many times, man. I've just turned on that event and watch your two fights. I mean, do you feel that as well? Because that's what it looks like to me. Like when that right hand comes in, it's just like the lights go off. Yeah, I've always been that way. You know what I mean? I've always been, like, I've always been every-handed.

I've always, it's like, when I used to boxing, because I was never, when I first started, I weren't the most, I weren't, I weren't the greatest boxer, really. I weren't, I weren't too skilled, but I just had, like, I'd go out and I'd hit someone with the jab, and then you'd see the eyes widen up, even from a young age, I'd get them with the jab, and they'd look at me and it's like, what were at?

And then, that'd be it then for the rest of that. They'd just be on the skates running around the ring, and I'd just be chasing after them. but as I developed and as I grew up, I fine-tuned my skill set and I'm actually a good boxer now even though you'll see me swinging here and there. But there's a method of the madness,

so yeah, I just kind of I follow people into where they don't want to go and then touch them and when I touch them they tend to fall over, so that's normally the game plan. Yeah, man, it's a joy to behold. If I wasn't already sold on you after that unplugged event, there was a moment.

and maybe people all don't point to this moment, but I loved it. It was a month later when Maya faced Bulan to be the guy who would go on to face you, Roya Retires in the middle of the cage afterwards, and they go to your face and you're just like, I can't fucking believe. I don't know what you said, but I could read your lips, and I was just like, man, Jack Cartwright scares the shit out of me. And that was when I was like, I think this guy's going to be big. All I heard him say is, I heard him say my name.

so I just told him that he'd get knocked back out and then he came out of the kids and then I realized he just retired It was great the way it just paned to you in that moment and you looked so pissed off It was magic man I swear to God Whoever edited that piece of footage was

It was absolutely magnificent And were you pissed off because obviously You were there to see who the next guy would be Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course I wanted to fight in like I wanted to fight in December and November time I wanted to fight at the end of last year.

So I thought, like, the winner of that blue and the Maya fight, I thought, that would be perfect. And then, obviously, after we'd come out of the cage and I'd realize that he'd retired, I was kind of left twiddling my phone then and waiting for the next best thing to come along. So that's what I've been doing. And then, well, like, gladly, it ended up,

I ended up falling on my feet, really, being able to go and fight in Manchester off the 7th. So I didn't mind really waiting when I got that opportunity, to be honest. Yeah, you know, we've had Jack Shaw on this show a number of times, and he, of course, had a... teammate on that in that bracket i believe uh josh reed and um even he kind of came on the podcast the weekend after you are crowned he was like this this guy is absolutely incredible um he's like

you know he's after shocking the whole uk and iris scene with the way he performed and he was he expects huge things from you we're speaking of tanyl wood also expects huge things from you obviously both these guys are the last two lads to hold that belt you have i mean you know when you look at your record seven and oh now the way you hit people the fact that you're telling me You're actually a wrestler, and that's not your boxing, isn't your dominant skill set. But do you, are you now looking at the UFC? Are you thinking that's right on the horizon right now, Jack? Oh, well, of course, yeah.

I've got into the sport to be a UFC world champion. That's why I'm here, you know. So I'd be lying if I said that, I didn't. But at the end of the day, I've got a fight on the 7th time and so I need to take care of business and win. And then obviously there's an Ireland card, I know the Irish, so that's what I want to be on, you know what I mean? I want to get over there and give the Irish sounds a good scrapping around, so I want to dust this guy on the 7th of March and then see the EFEC come calling. But like you say, I need to have to get this business done. Well, man, that's incredible.

I'm going to tell you, a lot of Irish people will be really, really happy to hear that. Now, just in terms of this Manchester card, you're from Bolton, is that correct? Yeah, yeah, I'm from Boatting, though. So this is a nice journey for your supporters, right? I mean, does it feel bigger that you're competing so close to home? Yeah, really, purely for the fact that they've not been to Manchester before, and all my teammates can get on the card and, like, all my own, all the other Marvin guys can come up here instead of having to travel down to London

or go to that and go to wherever. It's just in Manchester. There's a lot of top gyms up here. So obviously, if we go, we're putting on a good show with the 17 that we've done. will do, they're going to come back and then it's just going to be a perfect stage for everybody to be able to get them to go to Manchester's shows of the people. So that's what I'm proud of that, you know what I mean? Like I say, I'm five and up, I'm seven and all now.

I've not had too many, too many professional in their fights, but I'm driving that short to Manchester and it's going to stay there and it's going to show that it's a hotbed for professional fighters. Yeah, and I know you're in SBG, Manchester, Goy. Have you, have you always been under Inman or? or did you get some time with Carl Tanzwell, the Great Townswell, who we've heard many people

on this podcast, praise as a pioneer. Did you work with Carl at all? Yeah, yeah, I worked for a couple of years. I trained under Saw Rogers, at Saw Reddy's NMA, that's where I can train in court out of. And then I train my protein in my team.

I train under my MD, Manchester for the past three years, four years. So, yeah, I was with Carr, and then obviously I've passed away and Matt's up over and now Matt's my head coach so I'm just like

flourishing up there with Matt I can remember he spoke to Alex Unland about Matt and he was like you know Matt is literally exactly the same coach as Carly is he's so dedicated is amazing

is that how you feel it as well it's basically one guy passing the torch to another yeah 100% he's just Matt's just he's did a lot to that gym you know

he's put a lot of time into all the guys he put his own, like he had his own career, and then he kind of just put that to the side and put all the team first, and he does everything for everyone, so I'm trying to come in up with it. He's put a lot of time to me,

and yeah, I'm grateful for all the work, but you're putting into me down there. Yeah, absolutely, a legend of that scene. Can you tell me how you're looking at your opponent here? I saw that great video, K-Joyers put out where they were showing you, striking training, and to say you weren't so complimentary of the man is probably being very nice to him,

but what can you see? about this guy? I think he's a good fighter, you know what I mean? I've said before that he's a good fight, but I'm just, I work too hard to not be confident to myself, you know what I mean?

I give up everything to this sport, you know what I mean? I'm just drafting all day along every day, so I'd be feeling if I weren't confident in myself. But I think that he's a tough fighter, I think he's good on the ground and he's good standing up.

I think he's when he flaws his commits, which will get him into trouble with me. I think that his wrestling isn't good enough to compete with me, which I don't think anybody in the UK's wrestling is good enough to compete with me. And his grappling isn't.

My grapren is better than his grapren, you know what I mean? His grappling is okay and my gatherings. I think it's good. You know what I mean? But, yeah, I think he's a good fighter, but I just think I'm better than you. And if I want to be a UFC world champion,

which I fully intend and I'm being, I should be beating my own of it. I wanted to ask you about the hair. This is a thing that's caught on online. A lot of people talking about the hair when they see you kind of in combat's very unique look. Where did it come from? The Rats Tale was a big thing in Dublin as well for a long time. I'm just wondering is this a way to bring it back?

And have you always rocked it like that? No, I've always had it. The annoying thing is for everybody who asked me, there's literally no reason to solve. myself. There's no reason. There's no reason what I've just had it my whole life. I've thrown up with it. And I just never, listen, I've said it once on one of a interview and I put it off. I put it off once when I was like seven years old. I've got a bladder infection. I got a bladder infection when I put it off. So you go, boom, it's never left since then. I always know. I love it, man. A unique look goes a long way in MMA, so I think you should definitely keep it.

Oh yeah, I'll always keep it. I'll always keep it. I don't even realize it's fair. I look at it like a video of myself or whatever, and it'll take me by surprise, because I have to double check and see if it's me because I don't even remember I've got it on my back and around. Well, you see, I can't grow on now, because everyone will say, oh, I'm jacking your style,

but I would. If I had a scene in on the street, I'd take it off you immediately. Another thing I saw you share just recently on Instagram, and I wanted to ask you about this, because where you're from, I can tell you, the ramifications of Toys and Fury's win in Ireland is huge. I can only imagine how big it is in Bolton or Manchester.

What did you take from that, Jack? So close to your fight as well. Is this a source of inspiration or motivation for you seeing Fury put on this absolute master class in Vegas against Wilder? Oh, yeah, of course, I love Tyson Fury. I'm a massive fan. I grew up boxing with his cousin here. we used to box at the same gym

we used to spar with each other obviously the heavyweight now is big year but he didn't used to be when there was 40 in that we used to train and spart for whatever all the time so I'd not had like seen Tyson about it

and he was always like to be a nice style and obviously you can clearly see the best every rate in the world so getting to see him go over there and just wild like that it just filled me full of pride really

it's been full of pride and made me yeah the answer for getting there and just show what I'm made of and put a show on what do you what do you like most about his style when you're when you're watching unboxing if you don't mind me asking jack because i love to hear a fighter's perspective that particular fight the wilder fight

in general i don't mind i've watched a fair few of his voice probably not as many as you but in general what what do you like about fury's ability he's just he's very well-rounded you know he's very very very well-rounded it can it can stick to a game down and move around switch stances keep it wrong it can run like that in box clean it can make it ugly and tie people up lean on and whirrame out

and beat them up that way you can press the people down like he just saw him and reach the rider and filling him and his little half step back his little his little um

half step back next him just miss bam-bang bit bit straight shots and punishes him he's a full dead fighter like you say

but it gets ugly and dirty in there it can just make it rough and pull it out the bag and get the win so he's got that gritting in

and that's what it resonates you know what I mean it makes you realize all you need to do is just believing yourself. Just like grit your teeth and just, yeah, believing yourself, man. And good things are happening. And that's what happens to people. It's happening in my life, so I'm just going to keep it rolling.

And it probably allows you to see the pathway. This guy has grown up quite close to you, I would imagine, and he's gone on to be, as you said, the greatest boxer in the world, one of only three ring champions to win it twice, right? Like, I mean, does that kind of hit home for you, that it's so close he's going to done it? I think it's just in the early. I think it's just doing it twice.

Yeah, but yeah, you're right. I think that left than 10 miles from me. You know what I mean? And it's like, there's lots of fighters like that. There's a time in Manchester where we had 10, 10, 10 box in their champions, all within 10 miles where I live, you know what I mean? So it's clear that there's a breeding ground to champions in the deal, and I take pride in that.

I take great pride in the loose in that, and just knowing that you put that hard work in, you believe in yourself, and you can work there in that result. final question jack and believe me this conversation has me thinking that we will see more champions from that region in the future but what's your prediction for a village how do you see this one going is it going to be another clinical striking performance or are you going to showcase a bit of this grappling for us at the end of the day i'm always willing to learn to match him on it so if you're

coming up to meet out the plan is always to win there and match somebody unconscious that's back my job at the of the day. But I'm fully prepared to the win there and grind for 25 minutes. I will work there and do what it takes to win 100%. I'll put myself first and I put my team mates first who is grinding

me every single day and we go through hard farming sessions and hard Saturday sessions every single day and that's not going to be for nothing. I'm going to go in there and get the win first and foremost but hopefully I'm going to go in there, it in with a big shot and sending pass

that's right. Well, you won't find me complaining if that's how it goes, Jack. It's been an absolute pleasure to speak to you, man, and I cannot wait to see how this unfolds. And I have my fingers and toes crossed that you'd be over on the Emerald Oil, and I'll be able to meet you in person, my friend. Yeah, no reason either as well. I can't wait for the all of them.

All the best, Jack. All the best, Jack. And we have an action-packed weekend ahead of us. Too much. No, it's not. It's lovely. And of course, Jack Cartwright will be on the top of that cage

where it's 112 card there in Manchester. First time they've ever been in Manchester. Let's take a look at that card now, shall we? It is a very nice one. I'm very excited. Lots of Irish interests as well for our folks back home. But starting off in that main event, Manil Billich, a good test for Jack Cartwright.

I mean, he's a bit of an unknown quantity, Jack. But what really stuck out to me in that interview is, He's out there knocking people dead. And he feels like wrestling is as strong a skill set. He has competed all over the place. He's competed in Russia, I believe he said, in the interview. Because he was just going in there and literally taking the lad's heads off. Just right hand, bang.

Good look, Michael. And when he was touching lads, like, you just see it straight away. Like, they're just like, their eyes are like, what the fuck? What the fuck did I sign up for hair? Wait, hang on. Does he have hair on the back of his head? Whatever. He's a very, very interesting guy.

I'm really into it. And I love the fact that he's already saying, if I win this, I want to fight in Belfast. A double header in Belfast now? Does he want to fight everyone on the whole card? I wouldn't put it past them. But definitely looking forward to seeing him back in action. What about this Welterway Cormane event? Yeah.

It feels like Adam Proctor, for me, is a savage. He's one of Alex Unland's lad. He's a beast. Mathers Flaminus. I don't know a lot about him, but he's right up there at the top. But there's a welterweight title fight happening in Belfast, though. I mean, it's a no-brainer. It's the winner it is.

The fights Reese. I don't think that's like rocket science to sort of work that out but... Proctor v. McKee would be a fucking wild fight. Oh my God. I think the best thing here for Reese McKee is that they both just knock

lumps out of each other you know, from his point of view he'll obviously be watching on with a keen eye in this one and yeah, it is. It's probably the fight to make. I don't think that's... We're a million miles away by saying that. But yeah, it's a fight I'm very much

looking forward to it's a good card this weekend. It's some really solid stuff and yeah, McKean Proctor would be tasty, eh, wouldn't it? It would indeed. there's a lot going on here as I just go between topology and the cage warriors out to realize where the card's going. Martin Stapledin v. Yassine Belhage Stapes. That's a crazy one. A legend of the UK scene at this stage.

Belhage only six and two, but... He's fun to watch. He is indeed. That's a very nice fight. What about Andy Townsend? James Webb back in action against Mick Stanton. I talked to Chris Fields a bit about this. This is a big fight because Mick Stanton's been on a run, and 1-85 since he's moved up and I felt as though Stanton would be the next person to fight Natoyas

so I feel like James is putting himself right back in there Well it's a big one for James as well See how he's going to bounce back You know after after losing that title And it's a huge, huge moment in his career I feel Absolutely Let's just have a look at the card here again Excuse me Scott Malone

Obviously and Adam Wilson Scott Malone was taken out in the first round by Cartwright That's another man who could put himself in the hat Liam Gettins from Liverpool I believe against Jonas Magard at Bantamway and the pro prelims as well there could be like I think Gettons is a future title challenger without doubt so that's interesting to see

Tom Marens an action against Stephen Hooper following his late withdrawal from Bellator Dublin could not secure GP's clearance to say he can lose the weight to make featherweight he's back at lightweight here which is good Aaron McGuire from Cork I don't know if he's actually been

has he been much let me just check yes against Jabead Raman 2 and 0 so that's a nice fight for Aaron very very big stakes there you'd imagine and we also have James Sheehan back Andy Ryan's Blue Chipper Of course we remember James Sheean

and Ian Gary had an epic fight In both of their debuts An unbelievable fight we were crying about them even being a match at the time but Jesus Christ It was a great showcase for what we have Has he fought to send no I don't think so no I don't think he has So it'll be interesting to see him coming back from that

obviously a lot of damage taking that fight without a doubt. And Paul Hughes there as well. Hughes there. Hughese. You know, look at the amount of Irish fighters here with that Bellfast card on.

Like, I mean... Showy's fighting as well, is he? Is that the week after? He's in London. He's fighting in London. Sorry, I got that arseways. But Paul Hughes,

James Sheehan, obviously James Webb, we've taken one as one of our own too. A huge, huge fight there. A lot of huge fights in terms of Irish interest. Let's have a look at UFC 248, though.

That's the big one. Is? Yol Romero and Israel Adasanya. I don't want to fight y'ole. He's a scary man. I have a feeling that's going to happen because he keeps saying it. I want to face anyone with

anyone but's Yole Ariel. And yeah, hopefully we'll be speaking to Darren's doing about these things. Darren, darn. He's trying to get Darren on a fucking phone. He's accepted about 15 interviews. We just never got them.

Yeah, I think he agreed to six with me last week alone. Oh, he was doing the show this week as well. I think he's winding us up at this stage. Israel v. Yowl, how interested you on this? I love it. Man, I can't call it. I think it's one of those ones where you're just going,

literally give me a coin, flip it, see what's going to happen. It's a dangerous, dangerous one for Izzy. And you have to give him credit for just loving this fight and really push for this fight. He's like, I'm going to have to fight this dude eventually because he's not going away. I love that. And did you see, we've talked about an awful lot? Do you ever see Jose Young's when he asked.

I don't know who he is. Sorry, a fellow I worked with. Okay. He asked her A. He asked Horay Mazvedal about this fight, and the way Masvedal pitched it was absolutely unbelievable. Like, he loves Israel. And obviously, great friends with Yowl. And he was like, I just love the fact that this kid wants to fight Y'O.L.

He's a nightmare. But the thing about Y'O.L., right? Why does he wrestle? Like, he's an unbelievable wrestler. And obviously, that's where he's going to have a huge advantage over Stoyles. It's like, is he actually going to wrestle this time? Yeah, you never know what you're going to get from Yol in a fight. We were interviewing Hermanson the last time.

He's like, I think I'm a better test of how good his takedown defense is because at least I'll shoot a takedown, right? He's like, of course, Yoil's a better wrestler, but he never really shoots. Yeah, you just don't know what you're going to get. And I think this is the only way he wins this fight is by using his wrestling being like gritty, grindy style. Gritty grindy, or favorite phrase. Yeah, it is my favorite phrase. That's pretty much the way I see it going. But again...

He can also explode, like he did against Chris. Wyman with that knee. Fucking hell. So it's going to be interesting to see what, you know, approach is he goes in with as well. Like, is he going to be more cautious? I can see this just being a fucking wild fight. I think we're going to see something really exceptional.

Yeah, it's one of those. I think the calm end could be four of the air as well. Yo's going to miss weight, though. I just cursed it. Wily Zhang against Ioanna and JJ. Are we going to have a title come home? It's a tricky fight, man. Does there any European champions?

Habib. Habib, Norma, Maddof. Is that it? That is it, isn't it? Jesus Christ. Valentina, Shevchenko. I'm sorry, shit. Like, okay, I'll just shut up.

This is crazy talk. I can't believe you didn't remember Valentina of all people. My God. Yeah, listen, man, I love this fight. Steepai Miochus from Croatia. Yeah, that's true. We've got loads of champions, man. It's just you have to open your mind a little bit.

We'd, what, how many Irish guys in the show this week? All our, well, three Irish guys? None UFC champions yet. but I love I love Yohanna I think it's great she's back in there but you know again

why Li Zhang remember when we had Yoanna on the show and she's like look at her guns man she's even like what the fuck it's going on here

it's like she's just impressed me so much um oh she's unbelievable have we seen her do anything bad um

nothing it's actually been her tenure in the UFC has been near enough perfection our own the only thing I will say about this

the camp has had issue was because of the amount of moving around they've had to do due due to the coronavirus. She'd go out like two weeks, three weeks ago, to Vegas. Yeah, Guillermo was covering it all. I mean, it felt like there was a lot of updates. There's a lot of chopping and change.

And, like, I mean, that stuff affected it. There's no doubt about it. Like, I mean, like, obviously she's been able to settle in. And I believe our coaches did get their visa sorted out and all that stuff. But it still sounded like a couple of weeks back. It sounded like it was a bit of a cluster focus. Yeah.

Yeah. And I know the Leach, I think, had similar problems as well. He's also far from the card. That's a really good fight. Yeah, that's going to be unsettling, but, you know, she's, she's, she's, she looks like a consulate professional. She just looks like an absolute savage. And I think this is going to be a very, very tough task for Joanna to go out there and cause an upset. And you don't often say that

when Joanna's fighting that she's going in as underdog, and I think she is this week. And, uh, I'm just interested Joanna's mindset as well. She seems to have chilled out a little bit altered. I think, you know, her, her ego took a bit of bashing when she lost a rose. Boy, like, this is the thing we always say about it. People give her such a time but she's so interesting like I mean she's so captivating you know like I mean she's one of my favorite fighters to speak to she makes things more exciting yeah I mean

who else could you put in at 115 against Wiley Zang that would make us care this much like no one absolutely no one no Wiley Zang needs this fight more than Yohanna does for the for the stock she can build off off of Yohanna oh yeah and as you said there Yowana intrigues you she makes you want to chin in and watch her fights because you're just an intriguing

figure and a character and I where's great running She's cool. She says she obviously got criticized for that post about the coronavirus but listen We all make mistakes I don't think it was

She didn't make the pose here She was re-sharing Yeah I don't think it was meant to offend anyone Understand that it did Obviously like a you know Jesus the situation has gone Amplafo yeah Beyond belief now at this stage

We've even got cases in Ireland at the moment It's just one of those things Yeah Further down the card We have Ireland's Sean O'Malley Coming back against Jose Alberto Quinone um savage

look man i really like that at hang on wood fight they both talked about it if he gets true um quinones which i expect him to even though he's been off for quite a while make that fight no because vera's matched again he's fighting one or someone

like i mean that was the fight to make several times over at this day do you think so vera and natalia oh yeah yeah yeah vera and nathania yeah you just don't like you be of the classical think and don't put two prospects just at the moment yeah okay let them settle you know get get wood back in the wheel call him

this is a big test for Sean O'Malley he's been out for quite some time man I think that's the test I think the test is how can he perform yeah like if you would have matched Quino is tough man he is but if you would have match Quinonez with O'Malley and he like had he never had this ban on stuff and it just came

after his last fight I would have happily oh yeah back down yeah I agree I think the big differential here is the time off yeah absolutely I'm bouncing back and see how it's affected him and see if you can go in there and you know I think for Sean as well because of the around him. It's about putting in a performance, man. It's not just about winning anymore for Sean. There's a lot of eyes

in this kid. Yeah, and like, I mean, I feel like he's been very hard done by a guy who seemed to have his whole career at his feet. It seemed like it was just about the launch and then obviously this Usada situation. Kind of messed that up for him. Yeah, it did. But listen, another guy that's intriguing. People want to tune in to see him fighting. We need guys

like that in the UFC. It's very, very important. And I think we forget sometimes that you know, the UFC potentially don't do a great job in promoting their lot of fodders. And I think Sean is one of these guys that, you know, they're obviously clearly getting behind and it's good to see it because we need the UFC to sort of spread the wealth, I think, with their marketing prowess. Another European Saperbeck, Saperov, has a big, big test on his hands against Rudolfo

over here, one of the great jiu-jitsu players of all time. Is he better than you? Come on, man. Yeah, silly question. But he is now, he came off that win. Remember, put you out in his debut, arm triangle, really, really lethal. Oscar, but Chott. And look, Saperbeck Safferoff is there.

I expect Biera to be able to get through him, to be completely honest. Saperbeck is coming down from 205 to 185, so that could be a bit interesting, but I expect the grappling strength of Rolfo to be on a different level completely. Speaking of grappling strength, we also have Mark O. Madsen, the Great Olympian, taking on Austin Hubbard. He'll put on his 9-and-O record on the line, and, yeah, it's looking good for Mark O so far. I think he's spending a lot of time in Vegas at the moment. I believe he is one of

managed by Alinao as well. Probably who isn't. Yeah, that's a good point. And Darren Wynne returns just after the loss to Darren Stewart against Gerald Mershard. That should be actually a tasty fight there to open the card.

Not a lot of European action, but I will end it by asking you for some predictions now. Israel had a sign of year, Al Romero. How does it end? Who wins? On you.

How's it happen? Five round war. He just grinds it out, edges it, or does he whitewash him? No, he'll come back strong in the fourth and fifth, but ultimately you'll walk away to victory. And will it be the thing that everyone's crying about on Sunday

morning? Obviously. They need something. We can't go a week without it. It'll be a split decision. The judges will get it wrong in every scorecard, but somehow... Fire everyone in the UFC. Yeah. That's what we'll be talking about in Sunday. There'll no doubt it'd be some controversy. I'm going with my boy, Izzy. I wouldn't be listening. I can't... I actually... I can't call it.

I can't call it. But I'm just doing it. Interesting. I think he's going to stop him with tricks in the I wouldn't be surprised not either at all. Because his volume is unbelievable and he seems to be

a lot better at wrestling defense that people give him credit for even though again we're kind of wondering we'll actually test that area because it seems

he doesn't seem too transfixed in the takedown Yoel never does what we expect him to do he'll do something fucking mad he'll jump over the cage or something leap

he reminds me of like Blanco do you remember Blanco from Street Fighter he's that's right it's just wild energy yeah absolutely just a lunatic

All right comment event Willie Zhang versus who wins and how should get it done? I think Yo-Ili finishes, Yanna, within three. How did she finish her?

Ground and pound. She'll drop her with a left hook. She'll attempt a submission, but then she'll fall off and then she'll just slap her in the face and... There you go. Put her money on slap to the face, ending the fight. I'm going

Joanna, decision, and our jab is going to light the night up. That's a good call. That's what I believe is going to happen. when you look at the way Yowanna fought Jessica Andrade That is a masterclass Jabbed the face off that Brazilian girl She did

But she's going to have to avoid that power O'Reilly Zhang But I do feel even though Zang Took care of business against Andraj I feel Andrage is the bigger one-shot power Between her and Zang I just think the error of invincibility's gone from Yohanna

And she's going to remind us all away Yeah no I'd listen I would not be surprised But you just Maybe you just don't feel as though She's where she used to be Maybe in her career harsh words for European legend

from the greats of all time she is don't that's not in question don't get a twist of Europe all day long here I hope but look we have an interview with Chris Fields and he has a return

there's a lot of interviews he has a return about in April 18th he's done a few interviews so far but I feel like we tickled a bit more out of them today than maybe has been put out there so far of course this whole thing popped up

after UFC, Dublin was announced. Shortly thereafter, Chris has announced for a comeback fight. Call Pendra's online saying, wouldn't that be amazing? Chris Fields, a retirement bout. You said it. In the three arena.

You called it in fairness. A few weeks ago you said it to me before it even happened. I thought it was a nice idea. But then when I saw the interview, I didn't really talk about it. I was like, oh, maybe he's not going to talk about it. And then, boom.

I arrived in swords today just before I got down here, and he hit me with the hot facts. Swords. Swords Swords. It's like a little drop of the south side

on the north side. Ah, that's a shithole. Don't even, don't even try Do you hear that feelsie? To brush it over, yeah, yeah. Did you hear that feels? That's dark out. Look, we'll go to this interview

with Chris Fields. He graciously sat down and let me be in his company for 15 minutes today. Poor bastard. What a gentleman. And we'll be back after that to talk shite until the podcast ends.

You've been asking me to get him on and he is back once again. Not in the house. Roast realm this time though. He's a guest of course. Chris Fields, the legendary Irish MMA, a former former Cage Warriors middleweight champion making his long away to return to the banner on April 18th. This has all come out of left field to a certain degree, but Jesus Christ, that was some reaction, Chris. Did that blow you away a bit? Like, I mean, you know, you're still an active fighter, but just the announcement that you're coming back to Cage Warriors, everyone, you know, huge,

huge online, huge online, huge online traction for it. Did you, did you expect that? No. Yeah, I don't know what the, like, I just kind of glide through my life thinking, I like fighting, so I'll fight. And I don't really think people take too much notice. And it's kind of, yeah, I was actually saying it to, like, a good few of my mates. I was like, it's a bit mad, isn't it? Like, people actually like watching you, what you do. Like watching me do what I do is cool to me, but I never really look at it that way.

The lads kind of slag me here, because I just don't really see it that way. When I hear like, I don't know, like stupid terms, like legend or pioneer and all this fucking shit, like, I don't. You know what I mean? I'm just, I'm just some lad who like likes kicking and punching the lads in the face while they like, yeah, yeah. It's like, we've had this discussion before. To me, like, it's like you're selling your body. It's prostitution, kind of. Like I'm selling my body for people's entertainment.

You know what I mean? But I love doing it. I'm sure most prostitutes don't love doing it. But like, I love doing what I do. And I, yeah, I just kind of, it amazed me that people like seeing me do it, but it's cool. I like it a lot. You with Cage Warriors, I mean, I feel like you've made, like, a big kind of commitment to Cage Warriors as a coach, which your guy is James, of course, former middleweight champion. He's taking on mixed standing this weekend.

And, of course, Ian Gary now is the talk of the town in Ireland. You know, it really is the talk of the parish. What convinced you to go back to Cage Roy's? I feel like that would have been on the table for a long time, but I mean, what prompted it at this moment? Well, realistically, like, my aim was always to kind of have my last fire or two with Cager's. That was always what I wanted to do. Like, I would have felt like home to me, Cade Wars always has.

They've always been very good to me. The yellow gloves feel right for me, you know? And then realistically, like, kind of, I don't really, I didn't know whether I was going to have this conversation now, I'm going to, I'll tell people what the plan is. So the plan is basically to fight in April, get a win, and then push for the UFC in August.

Well, that was a big one because that was obviously going to me next question. Because Carl Vendred tweeted this, and it went crazy as well. Basically, the UFC Dublin announcement came out, he says, wouldn't it be great to have Chris Fields on this card? Because let's be honest, you were the guy out of everyone

that everyone thought was really going to be there. You know, everyone thought that you're going to be in that mix. And I felt like for ages, counting down to it, right? It's like every time you fought, oh, if he wins this, you know what I mean?

It's, it did, it really felt like that. You were definitely the most prominent name that didn't kind of get to where the black gloves go to the octagon, etc. After your,

after your journey, it would tough. But I mean, this all came afterwards, right? This announcement and stuff. Like, have you talked to Graham Boyle

and said, like, this is the goal? Like, I mean, that low heavyweight titles vacant. There's a lot of moving parts here. Yes.

So, like, my, I spoke to Graham, yeah, I spoke to Graham, and I told him what I wanted to do. He was supportive with the whole thing.

Always has been, to be honest. So my plan will be fight April, push for the UFC in August. If that's not coming about, then fight for the Cage Warriors title. But my overall plan will be fight April, push the UFC in August. If I get it, then I'm just going to leave my gloves in there

in August and be done with it. Like, that's it for me. That adds a lot of interest, right? Like, I mean, in terms of, when you look at the UFC coming to Dublin, you need local storylines. We've always had local storylines on these cards. You know, even as far back as Tom Egan,

the first Irish guy to fight in the Octagon, it was there. The second one obviously is Connor's debut. Then you had Paddy getting rushed into the main event last second and the last time. This one doesn't seem to have as many available storylines, right? The only thing that people are really focused on at the moment is Reese McKee, if he wins the toilet, he's there. Whereas if you have this guy that's a pioneer to sport here, without a doubt, a former, like, you know, well-established name in Europe,

He's going in and he could be potentially fighting his last fight in the Earth gun. I mean, that makes a lot of sense, right? Like, I mean, that would be a huge, huge attraction for Irish fans especially. Yeah, like I said, I don't really... No, so you're great, go on. Like, for me, that would be, like, a kind of nice end to the story. If it doesn't come about, well, then it'll be the Cage Warrior's style and leave the clothes down after that one.

But, like, it would be a fairly special moment for me to be fighting in the UFC. And I think, you know, I get to make it all about me then. Not a dry eye in the house or a chair. Shoot the form. Is this, like, I mean, has Graham, does Graham think this is a possibility? Obviously, Graham has brought 95 fighters to the UFC. So, I mean, I'd say he have a good idea if this is something that would whet the UFC's appetite. Yeah, you know, I just kind of told him what the plan is.

So, like, this, the first part of the plan is April. So, like we've said, a lot of times before, it's like, Chris does this one, you know. So I really, like, I hope I'm not falling into this. trap again but to be honest like he likes the storyline I think everyone kind of likes the storyline and the narrative that I spoke to

to be fair it was Carl's idea like he messaged me about he's like dude you should do that like I'm finish up on that you know and I've been kind of like eyeing the exit for a while trying to figure how to do it and I felt recently like that it was just starting to get away from me as in it wasn't

going to be in my control it was just going to happen and I was like shit this is a bit mad I'm going to end up just not having a fight and then it's all over and then I'm like, and then I'll be some fucking weird fucker in my 40s. So I just kind of want to do it on my own terms. And I just feel like either of those situations, whether it was UFC or the cage where his title, then just leave my gloves down and just be done with it on my own terms, I think it would be, it kind of put like a nice full stop on it for me.

And then I think for everyone, it kind of just goes, right, that's it. It sounds to me you're saying like 2020 is your last year of competition, whatever way you're looking at it like I mean are you putting years on it or are you putting like fights on it like i'm done by september or either way so uh my plan will be like either of those two things but it like to be honest if you look at my team it's it's getting harder and harder to you know balance everything i've got a family as well so i'm just trying to like kind of do it on my terms uh which is difficult enough but um i'm lucky the the other side of that with the team is that i've literally created my own training partners so like yeah sometimes to my own demise but yeah so i have like all the guys around me that

i need i have you know and then i know if they like to call and i will come in to help me and but uh yeah it's yeah that's kind of like it has to end at some point right you know what i mean i don't i never thought it was going to be the type of guy to actually say it was done but like i feel like if if that storyline played out i think i don't think there's any better way to do it yeah without doubt like and and you know you've said to me for a long time this coach thing. I can remember when you opened this gym first, you were like, geez, I really like this. You know, I can really see this being me. Is that where it is? Like, it's just, you know that, look, Ian Gary, as you said, James Webb already a cage warrior champion. Like, these guys already

have names. This gym isn't open in a long time. Like, is that what kind of, the success, that obviously you've got great numbers here as well. Is that, that's kind of underlying the reasons of you. I need to commit more to coaching? Yeah, you know, and it's, it's hard to juggle both things and do them right, you know? So, like, the guys kind of, I fill the lads in on my plan, so they know it's not like I'm surprising anyone with anything and so like they'll be willing to kind of bend a little till that's over you know not kind of I but you can't be like you can't be putting other lads on the like on the back burner while you're getting ready for your own fights all the time so they know how this one's going to play out I've timed it well the April card uh none of my guys are going to be on it so it's my own thing you know um so I can just go over with my team and go and fight and concentrate myself and then whatever happens after after that then and then I just that like I can just pour all my focus into them. I feel like I've been that's what was kind of happening anyway the last while and that's what I was saying was starting to just get away from me a little bit like and

you know I think there's like like you know someday sometimes you have to call off but like I think it has like things have to be on your own terms or there's always that's that little bite in you you know what kind of it's all look like I'm always gonna want to fight I love fine I do and I don't I don't look at it as prize fine I look it as sport. Like I love the sportive. I love competing and contesting with other people. And I get the other side. I get the money-making side. And it's just never been my big goal in it.

You know, never been about that. What's it like having people talking about the likes of Ian and UFC Dublin? Like his name was like one of the most prominent names that's being talked about already. He's just three and oh in his career. So far, is that overwhelming at all when you think of how quickly everything's happening? Like we have been

we literally predicted this. Like this guy was an amateur. Like when this guy, like you were telling me, when this guy, like you were telling me, when this guy, goes pro, it's going to go off into the stratosphere straight away. And it really has. It feels like you're nearly holding the guy back. You know, it's like, Jesus, I want to calm you down here before you take off. Like, I mean, how does that feel to you? Like, is that a realistic goal right now or is that something you don't really want on Ian's mind at the moment? You know, he's got,

he's got fights coming up, so he has to deal with them first. I think, um, I think, like, for me, and, you know, I've discussed this with Ian, so it's not anything like we haven't had a conversation about. I think it's early, like, very early for him, like, you know, this time next year, like March, like the London card that they do every year, that'd be almost ideal, you know? Or even a little bit later in that, he's very young. He's fantastic and, you know, I, like, the thing is for him, like he's not in the same boat with someone like me when he's going to be there. I think anyone can see that, you know what I mean? Even if he picks up a loss as like at this level, like, and then comes, gets a few moments, he's definitely going to be there. You can see it in the kid. Like, he has that, je ne se quo, as they say, you know. but I just

yeah like it'd be very early and I look at people that have done it right and the Jack Shores and all these kind of people and that's kind of the road I see like you know I see that's where you see him with the belt and getting that promotional power put behind him because like when Jack and Nathaniel went just for example two guys have gone from the

Kajores to UFC they were established brands nearly before they went in is that the way you see it with him yeah and I also think like I don't I don't want him to just find UFC he's not again it's not like me I want him to be a UFC champion and I think that's very possible for him. You know what kind of way? So I think that's that's the road for him. So I think putting some kid in just because like the name, you know, and you go, oh do you see he has to

it? It could be detrimental and like you've seen it as well. Amazing fighters, maybe pick up a loss. You see cut them. It's just never the same again. You know, the road seems hard to get back. You know what that kind of way. So I just think like I'm going to be smart with that kid and play it now. He's a grown man so his decisions are his own, but my advice would always be like Aaron the side of caution. You've been saying this about Webby as well. You've been sure to be throwing his name on the hat in every time you see even the media guys talking about who could potentially be there.

Obviously he's got great links to this, Jim, great links to Ireland. He's obviously fighting this weekend against Mick Stanton. That's a fight that, like I'd expect him Mick Stanton to be fighting for the title if it wasn't James. Do you know what I mean? So is that really what do you see? This is another basically another title attempt could come on the back of this? Yeah. I'd kind of like to keep James fighting the three rounders for a while.

He's been doing the five-round thing a bit. It's a lot. He's a crazy hard worker. He's ridiculous. It's humbling sometimes how much he puts in for everyone. But I think, like, he beats, maybe he has two or three. He could be easily be on that card in Dublin. That'd be fucking cool, sharing it with him, like, you know.

But he could easily be on that card, you know. It's more about the performances now for James. He needs a couple of big performances. He knows that too. go in there and that's the way he's feeling that's the way he's training so expect like sexy violence at the weekend so imagine you're going over here um you know obviously the corner james and you're going to be seeing graham boyle in there and i'm saying there's going to be a bit of talk about the potential opponents you can face in six weeks time or whatever it is and we know the

indian is me and you agree on this i think he's the best matchmaker in the world to be honest and when you when you see what he's done with this focused area uk and ireland i think it's unparalleled but The thing really, I guess, I know you've already fought these guys, but I mean, I guess the thing, if you're like in James' situation or in Ian's, they always kind of want to see you up against like an established name or like a former UFC fighter or something like that. Is that ideally what you would be looking for here if Ian Dean could manage it? Yeah, look, I'll let them decide some bouncer from down the road that has a cold, it'd be great. No, yeah, look, you know me. I always want to be fighting the good guys. So, like, whatever they come up with, I'll go. go, I'm just following their lead, like I've never really, in my whole career, I've never, like, picked an opponent.

I get offered someone and I say yes. Generally, don't even look at them. I just go, yeah, and then figure it out after that, you know, I kind of, I weirdly, it's weird, because I'm so different with my own guys. I'd like be, like, no one on my team is allowed, like, speak to promoters. They come through me. Everything comes through me. I study all their opponents before we make any agreements.

Me, they send the name. I'm like, yep. Because I just look at it, I still look at it as we're out on the road somewhere. You know what I mean? Like it's someone I'd walked up and shouted at me or something. You know what I don't? Yeah, it's ridiculous. Professional fighter, Chris Field.

I know. And it's how I am, like, it's weird how I am with all my other guys and how kind of controlling I'm. And then with me, I'm like, whatever the fuck, let's go. But I think that's part of the fun for me, you know, and it's always been part of the fun, the madness of the whole fucking day. It's a mad. It's a mad sport.

It's a fucking mad sport. Do you have an ideal in your? your head? Like, is there any ideal opponent for the Cadrars? No, like I said, to you honest, I'm trying to think of the heavyweight. It's not a mad tick, is it? Like, there's not too many floating about, so I'll see who they come up with

and we'll just go from there. I'll make sure you're the first to know, though, I promise. I promise. I won't do you dirty. If you get the win, is there an ideal opponent for a UFC Dublin show? Because, I mean, I liked Carl's suggestion of Paul Craig, because that was, that fight is like years, it got

history. Paul's has established himself in the UFC he's got an even record i think that's the main issue though that paul's established himself in the uc so like i don't like like like as much as there is history there i don't really hold a place to be calling someone out that's like fighting you know that long in the promotion and he's like just taking a draw of show gun like so i'm like you know me man i'm not one of those guys like but they're calling their showgun i definitely do that fight man holy god that'd be a dream come true anderson a two o five just keep the face on me man it's grand it's like a snuffer movie just do it just not just teep me in the face please uh yeah um it's not a full fetish on

i just want a teep in the face uh yeah you know um he he the former cage warriors like heavy which and modestis is just signed to him he's fighting in london like that that could be a possible one you know something like that uh as much as i like calls uh idea i think paul may have just pass on you know kind of and i don't know like i'm not going to have a bunch of fights in a promotion so but yeah like you know me man if it was a possibility we're definitely going to do it. How happy is Laura going to be about all this? Because, you know, she's been a rock for you the whole time here. Like, and this is, as you say, you know, this is going to be your last year. Like, is that a, will that be a great sense of relief?

Or will that be, you know, emotional moment for you guys as a family when you, when you eventually do hang it up? Or is it going to be a classic MMI retirement? You're going to be out of retirement two months later? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. To be honest, Laura is more stoutout. about me trying this and like like she's she's kind of a lot of time she's the driving for she loves like she didn't love me fine she loves me doing what I love down you know and she would have been someone saying to me like you know you need to finish it out in your terms and all that kind of stuff because she knows me so she doesn't want some bitter old bastard for the rest of her life

yeah definitely happen a hundred percent like you know if I'd just let it run it would have just let it run and then like I was like oh shit now I'm 43 I can't do this anymore you know I'd be like fucking pissed off midlife crisis grow the pony tail collect snakes going around in the Mazda is an MX5 yeah yeah yeah yeah trying to chat up 19 year olds you know what I mean

like a fucking loser sorry I probably offended a bunch of dudes you've offended my life but Chris it's an absolute pleasure and this is a great story I really hope I think it's going to be an adventure over a few months here which I like it's like the re-story in a way

where it's going to add a lot of interest this Cage Warriors show too, having you back and then having that story off the back of it. So I really can't wait to see it. And I hope it goes according to plan because it would be a fitting way to finish off the career, I feel. I think a lot of Irish fans will agree with me.

Yeah, well, it's me, so chance of the chance of going to plan are pretty fucking slim. But, yeah, look, best laid plans of moisten men and all that shit. We give it a shot and we see if it plays out and hopefully I'm kicking some dude in the face in, well, what do we even call it now? Is it the tree arena now, is it?

I can't believe you of all people have said that. The point. This is why I used to write back to articles I'd written for publications. It's not the tree or any you dope. I'm like, all right. So I hope I'm kicking some lad in the face in the point theater in August. But if not sure, I did it my way. Absolutely, Chris.

Pleasure, man. Thank you. Are you boiling? Are you selling it, right? I don't know what you're talking about. Are you buying it or are you selling it? Oh, you don't sell anything. But are you buying the fields?

Oh. K-Torriers. Yeah. Well, what else would be? talk. We need local interest. We need... It's a great local story.

Hopefully the UFC hear this. Oh, you know they listen. All right, Sean. How you doing, man? Hey, Shald. Hey, Mick. Don't be ringing me that late. Yeah, stop ringing us.

Yeah, I love it. I think it's something we need. We need more stories. We need more narratives like that. And what a fitting way to an Irish legend of mixed martial arts to go out on his shield in Dublin on August 15th.

Incredible story. Like, it's funny with Chris, like he's always like that announcement him around wild the other day when it was coming back and he's like talking to me today he's like I didn't really expect any of this to happen like I put his name in

everyone was covering it it wasn't like all the means news talk everyone everyone was running on this in Ireland I mean that's a lot of interest to generate like he's an established name in Ireland like I mean as you know he pops into

off the ball news talk and kind of lends himself to stuff like that he was obviously featured heavily in the notorious documentary stuff like that his his story is intertimore coined with that initial run. He was the guy.

If there was one guy that everyone was like, he should have got his shot in the UFC, it was Chris. Joe, outside of the people who went at that time, I think he was the one.

The most glaring omission. Yeah. Oh yeah, without doubt. And, unfortunately, it did become nearly a story of his career, right? Because then every fight we were like, are we going to,

are we going to, you know. But yeah, it would be wonderful. And I think, you know, we're not really going to have a huge amount of Irish fighters in the car. I think we can,

we can accept that. We've mentioned probably, two, three tops maximum, including Joseph Duffy. You know, Joe's obviously a no brain. I think Joe's going to get on that card regardless. Oh, yeah, you'd think so. So him, you know, obviously we're talking about Reese if he makes an impressive statement and Chris. And yeah, you know, you can't beat stories like that.

And I think, you know, you mentioned it there, the mainstream interest. That says to me that the UFC should really take this seriously and seriously consider doing this. if Chris wins his Cage Warriors return. It would be a no-brainer for me. The traction has been huge amongst Chris. We talked about Paul as well. Imagine having Paul, Chris, Joe. They're all big names, very popular guys.

Yeah, I mean, how important is it for Ian Dean to pull on a Masterstroke and get a good opponent here for Chris on April 18th? Yeah, of course it is. It's vital. I'm sure Chris will want it. You know, Chris is one of these guys. I think it's fair to say that he's never really

back down from anyone he's fought the best of the best in europe and you know whether it be at 185 or you know 205 um he'll go in there and give it as all but like i'm sure Chris is sort of in a weird way going fuck i hope they give me someone shit so i can make a fucking in statement and an impressive statement that's what he was saying he said to me he goes i just hope to get me the bouncer from down the road who has a cold but you know that's not going to happen i think yeah Chris is that fellow's already booked yeah i think Chris and known Chris you know he's he's he's he's going to want a good test and it's really about making a statement I think for Chris

absolutely absolutely you know and everyone should check out I watched it just before I came out today the timeline Esther and Casey put together for UFC 248 and it's fantastic just basically lining up the careers of Romero and

yeah always a great feature ahead of these big paper views I'm actually really looking forward these fights I'm at a wedding this weekend where's the wedding on at Farnama State my good friend Thomas Croyne. Yeah, he is getting married

to the lovely Elaine McGuire. Oh God, I thought you were going to say your line for him. I was like, oh. No, he's had an line longer than I've had an line in fairness, so we let him away with it. I'm looking forward to it. I love...

Stop saying you're looking forward to you. I can't wait. I can't wait for this. I can't wait for this one. Stop it. Stop it. Stop the lights. Got myself a new jacket. Did you? Snazzy.

What that's what I mean? It cost you a fortune. You're looking at 1,500 max nearly for a wedding these days. That's one to me, man. Of course it's not. fucking wipe me arse with 15-100 fucking he just but um

yeah also my friend Adrian Dolan is in this hell week thing you're showing me clips for it on there very funny show a few videos of the man in action um off screen shall we say but uh yeah

have a look at them there it will have been on but the time this comes out I think it airs on Mondays but go to the RTE player and watch my good friend Ato A judo black belt um have his way with a few people people in this kind of fight scenario they put him in. I mean, couldn't ask for a better guy to go in there.

My God, what a man? I'm very much looking forward to him. Number 11. He's number 11. Not, not. What's your name, Dolan? No, it's not. It's number 11. I might just call him number 11 from now. Dude, that's hilarious. He smithed out of me, though, probably. He's jocles and me curls. It's been a while week. It hasn't did. I'm tired now. Are you working all weekend? Are you going to have to play a mad, kind of shimmy the fights in somewhere. I think so. Sunday night, probably, by the sounds of it,

I'll have to have a wee, I'll try and, well, I'll watch UFC, I'd say it probably will. And, uh, well, maybe not actually. We can start trying to book the show tomorrow again.

Yeah. It's becoming a, a week-long event. Oh, fucking is like, you know, fucking Wednesday. You know,

it started again. We did a little, obviously. We have a little, we have a little, trying to get a pow- trying to think about different things. Yeah.

And, uh, just yeah you know just it's just it's just to be awkward sometimes trying to organize interviews but we got them over the line yeah make sure you just keep on asking Darren Till to come on Eurobash in his comments on that yeah yeah

be nice though because we're gonna have to take the hide when you when are you getting back to us Darren I'll do a few small mates and fucking six weeks later oh well sorry mates he's been on he's meant to been on every episode of Eurobash ever last tour did so looking forward to finally making that happen

yeah I'll get on to him again but I'm listen we don't promise anything with darn anymore I think we and he certainly doesn't promise anything he's a gas man he's funny as fun he got it you got it more to hustle yeah

he's got us dude is thatan but um we better Liverpool lost that was great sorry just thinking three nil was it

yeah yeah but a mad one there yeah imagine if they bought all the fat they couldn't they can't just stop holding out on that

you need to give up and just it's gonna be a dark day it's just get over it now my man United drew with uh Molly McCann's Everton yesterday. What's your thinking of that?

Dehia, what the fuck, man. Do you know what, Vara just fucking ruined football? I can't watch you. It's so shit, man. It's all right in Syria. They do it differently. My dad has a theory.

It's all to do with putting ads on. He's like, soon they're going to go to a VAR break. As soon as they do the symbol, they're going to go up a 30 second break for Gillette or something. He thinks it's all an American employee.

And Jesus, like, when you look at American football and you know the ads and NBA and stuff. I don't know how. our American friends watch TV it's punishing in the States trying to watch on it. This game is brought to you by Snickers. Unless I'm on it.

It's great. Stuff like there's ads every fucking five minutes like it's fucking punishing. But have you not noticed here though on all our shows? The ads are getting longer and longer there's up to six minutes now some ads.

It'll put Love Islands on or something like that. Six minutes. I don't watch that bollocks me. I did watch it. I'm an unapologetic Love Island fan. A lot of people are. Yeah, people.

There's loads of people are. What is a new one on Netflix? Everyone's talking about. Love is Blonde. mind. Is that the same idea? I don't know what the fuck that is. Unless still have lacks on it, you can get fucked. There's my watching for the night later on after I'm finished putting this together.

It's going to be a sweaty evening for a normal grass. Jesus Christ. That is disgusting. Right, lads. We love his loads. I'm going to try and not make it three hangovers in a row because I've been very bad, haven't I? Yeah, I had a fair few yesterday, but I'm actually all right. I'm in a heap.

I'm a little bit anxious, but that's for reasons that you know about. is Mickey fell off Yeah But nah It is It's tough The grind is But listen we need to

Fucking blow off steam as well We can't be fucking Fucking locked in front of a computer Fucking all year You know Or all weak Locked us in Drank a bottle of vodka

Well you're fucking That's saki shit You gave me I fucking neck What's it called Woo-shu Omi shoo Look how much a drink

Look how much It's fucking It's fucking It's rocket fuel It's absolutely Rocket field With the ice in It's beautiful

It is man But I was pretty drunk now after drinking. We were very proud when we saw it. When we saw you whipping open that bottle, we need to celebrate. We're like, yeah. He's done it.

Do it, baby. So, no, it was good stuff. It's tastyer than I thought it would be. It's plum, isn't it? I don't know what it is. It's just sweet. Yeah, it's a good hell whack off. It's nice with the ice and it.

With the ice, man, I'm telling you. It's a good percentage as well. I think it's like, twirty odd or something. Not too sure. It's fucking stronger than that, dude. It's fucking rocket fuel. It's like petrol, like. I wonder my fucking ars is sore

Yeah, that's what that is But look, we love his loads It's a big weekend of fights Enjoyed him I'm gonna be sneaking off from Tomo's wedding I'm sorry Tomo to watch a few fights I apologize Thanks to all the lads for stopping boys

On the show to speak as well Big thanks to Paul Feller Joseph Duffy Jack Cartwright Chris Fields Let's get them all on fucking Dublin Who cares Let's do it live

Definitely I think that would be great If you can get there Get all those guys on Love you some big kisses See you next week Good luck You know,