MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 73 (w/ Darren Till, Petr Yan, Pedro Carvalho)

Episode Date: March 10, 2020

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Darren Till (14:00) gives his take on the UFC 248 main event clash between Israel Adesanya and Yoel Romero and responds to Dana White's comments regarding his next o...uting being at UFC Dublin. Eurobash favorite Petr Yan (50:00) returns to the show to discuss his main event clash with Marlon Moraes and to give his take on Henry Cejudo's upcoming clash with Jose Aldo. Also featured, Pedro Carvalho (1:16:00) underlines why he is so confident he will shock the world when he meets all-time promotional great Patricio Pitbull in the main event of Bellator 241. As always, hosts Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath discuss the latest thrills and spills in European MMA.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:07 It's a blockbuster episode for Eurobash episode 73 as we're joined by Darren Till, Piotr, Piotr-Yam and Pedro Carvalio. How are you, Noel McGra? I'm a bit in a bad way after the crying wedding of 2020. I'm good, man. Yeah, I'm actually in good form. My brain, we're doing it a little bit earlier than normal. My brain's a little bit all over the place still, as you know.
Starting point is 00:00:42 It's sort of like it's a warming up process for me. It usually only hits peak conversation hours at about mid-m. Yeah, well, yeah, that's pretty fair. That actually is pretty fair. I'll give you that one. Listen, it's been a mad week. I've had mad hours all over the place with the fights on, getting up, sound until 7am,
Starting point is 00:00:57 then back in the office and Sunday morning, all over the place. But yeah, I am. Coffee, boom. That sounds, you sound riveting. I think usually when we do it earlier, you don't have this kind of energy. I think so many energy might because of that fantastic
Starting point is 00:01:10 Darren Till interview people are going to hear in about five, 10 minutes. We finally got him. We bagged the scouser. Yeah, we did. Do you think the list? gave him peer pressure after last week's episode when we were saying about his
Starting point is 00:01:24 somewhat... Speak of the devil, he just texted me there another one of the screenshots, but yeah, maybe that is. He's been very friendly. Maybe he listened to the episode went, I'm screaming these lads around a bit. I love Noel and Pizzi.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I need to help them. Yeah, 100%. Help us, Darren Till, you're our only hope. But, yeah, huge weekend of fights, obviously, at USC 248. K-Jorers 112 was insane as well. I was doing my best to watch them well, it was at this wedding, but tremendous, as we know, Wily Zhang and Yohani and Jacek,
Starting point is 00:01:54 probably one of the greatest fights ever at the weekend. Absolutely incredible shown from both of them. Shite. It was really hard to tell you. It won that for you. At the very end, I had absolutely no idea what way it was going to go. We'll be talking about that more later. But shall we hit up the latest news headlines?
Starting point is 00:02:11 Do it. Kjadir Yann meets Marlon Marois in the main event of UFC Kazakhstan on June 13th, excuse me, Cyril Gann is out of his meeting with Shamil Adirakamoff at USC 249 Curtis Blades meets Alexander Volkov in the USC Saskatoon main event on June 20th and from Sam Grimes this morning which he saw on a bus stop
Starting point is 00:02:36 Peter Quirley and Pitbull looks like they're meeting in the main event of Belator Dublin on October 3rd we believe that that was slipped out there by accident this morning Liam McCourt takes on Sarah Harding at May Bellator, London. Matthews Gamrod is back in action this weekend,
Starting point is 00:02:53 next weekend, sorry, at Lightway when he takes on at Mielsen Sosa, KSW 53. Pudgeonowski is out of the same card. He was meant to meet Quentin Domingos on that card. Ian Gary will no longer compete at Cage Warriors, London. He's now targeting May's Belfast show. And Ares 2 has been postponed due to coronavirus.
Starting point is 00:03:12 My God. Are you worried at all? Tell me now that UFC London could be hit with this. You kind of keep saying this to me. Yeah, I just playing with my emotions. I think, you know, if we look at what's going on around the world and around the globe in terms of the numbers of people that are getting affected,
Starting point is 00:03:28 the number of events that are being cancelled, you know, here in Dublin, obviously this morning. We've had Ireland and France cancelled this weekend for the Six Nations. Later, tomorrow night, sorry, tonight, shows we released. PSG's game at home is being played behind closed doors. So it's saying to me The more this spreads The more people get infected
Starting point is 00:03:52 With the coronavirus The more events We're going to be looking at being postponed And London could potentially be one of them Don't say that to me man Big year's weekend I don't know I just think yeah you know
Starting point is 00:04:04 I just think it's the situation we're in And I think You know the more it spreads And the more numbers That people are going to have They're going to have to start clamping down They probably should have cancelled A number of events already
Starting point is 00:04:15 But they haven't So it shows you how serious the French government are taking. They've had a number of events cancelled across their sporting calendars. So I would not be surprised to see a number of things affected in the UK and Ireland
Starting point is 00:04:26 in the next number of months and weeks. I'm staying hopeful. It will not be called. But what did you make of this Peter Quirley V. Pitbull announcement from Sam Grimes, who just took a picture of it on a bus stop this morning. It sort of sums all what we've been saying.
Starting point is 00:04:41 How does this kind of marketing mess happen? Like, come on, guys. It's wild. Only in Ireland could that happen. Like, but, you know, it's not, It's very messy. It really is very messy. You know,
Starting point is 00:04:51 you know, someone should be getting this story released or they should be, you know, they should have these things down to a tea and they don't. It's,
Starting point is 00:04:59 it's just, it's a bit of a joke, really. The Bellatorpe, big press conference is on today in New York. So I assume that, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:09 queerie and pit bull, if it's happening, seems like it's happening. Yeah, I think it is. It's going to be announced. And I'm, I just wanted to talk.
Starting point is 00:05:17 A few talking points from last week. Obviously a huge week. There's so many talking points. First one I want to say is everybody wrote Joanna off going into that fight. And no, she didn't get a win. But Jesus Christ, she is absolutely one of the greatest female fighters ever. That was, there was absolutely nothing in that fight.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Look at her face at the end of the fight. So many people are saying her chin has gone since that Rose fight. To be honest, after seeing her take the shots that Zhang had there, I think it's the most substantiated I've ever seen her when she's talking about the Rosefight that first one where she's not knocked out and the weight cutting all that.
Starting point is 00:05:55 It's hard not to believe that shit when you see how many big, big shots she had of Voile-Zang who we know was an absolute destroyer who proved that she's an absolute destroyer in the common of UFC 248. But I really feel as though even though she didn't come away
Starting point is 00:06:09 with a win, she's absolutely her stock has gone up. Again, yeah, listen all week the way she conducted herself and I was tweeting about how great she as I always am because she is great. She's great for women's mixed martial arts. She's great for promotion of the sport.
Starting point is 00:06:24 She's just a fantastic representative. I know she had that corona gaffe beforehand. It was taken, you know, taken with a pinch salt. She didn't mean to do that. She apologised. But at the end of the day, when you've an athlete, like Joanna Young Jacek, in mixed martial arts,
Starting point is 00:06:37 you know, what she's done for her popularity. In Poland is mental. People don't understand how popular she is in Poland. Like, if you look at that fight as well, you have to just remember, while he Zhang was fading badly after that second round Joanna came into it way way more in the third fourth and fifth the championship rounds
Starting point is 00:06:55 George Gumshield remember at the end of it was pretty and smiling man she's she's an absolute gangster as I think I tweeted out either night and she's um you know the only thing I will say about the fight because of the physical toll and nature of the fight it's one of those fights where you know does it change both girls careers forever
Starting point is 00:07:14 because it was just such an absolute war We've seen it happen so many times in mixed martial arts, that kind of, you know, knock on effect from a fight of that magnitude. Luckily, now, Joanna's, there's no big, bad injuries. That hematoma, you look awful. It's crazy, but it seems like it's had no, yeah, thankfully. Serious impact, the hematoma anyway on the brain or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:07:37 But, yeah, absolutely the devastating toll that both of those guys had to take in there, but absolutely one of the best fights I've ever seen. Yeah, like, and I just think, you know, the technical ability is, like, the striking was so good. so clean, so crisp. And, you know, like, 10 years ago, you wouldn't have seen anything near that level. It was...
Starting point is 00:07:54 And it's way more than just the way she fights, right? As you said earlier, like, I saw people like getting upset with the way she faces off. The point starts talking. Rubbish. You are far more interesting in this fight when you see her do that. She knows you are.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And it's... But it's not, it's not a test. It's not just a test to fight, Joanna, in there when you're in the cage. It's a test beforehand. She's messed up. Like, Wiley would talk her to shut up and all that stuff, but you could see. see it was messing with her. She didn't know what, well, Jesus Christ, this girl's aggressive.
Starting point is 00:08:20 You know, you could see it in the face-offs. So I think that's two huge tests that Wiley Zhang has passed. And look, I can't wait from the fight again. It's probably not going to happen immediately, but Jesus Christ, that fight was just incredible. It could have gone either way. I had a 2-2 going into the 5th. I did actually make a concertive effort to score, even though it was very exciting. So what, 2-2 going into the last? I had about 48, 47 for Wiley. But it literally could have gone either way. And I think if we're looking at that again, and I want to speak about Joanna just at the end of this before we move on to whatever we're going to move on to.
Starting point is 00:08:52 But again, you said it. It's the total package, man. It's what she does before she gets in there. The shit talk, she invests people. Like, look at her walkout even. How good was her walkout, like creeping down. It was just deadly. And she keeps it up the whole way through the fight as well,
Starting point is 00:09:06 the smile and the talk and the shit talk. Bring it touching her gunshot. The final bell rings. She's doing the cash sign to Dana White Lake. Brilliant. She's a gangster. She'll always be Joanna champion to me. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Joanna Queen Champion there we are Habib and Tony had a press conference and it was very interesting I was half court watching it to be honest it was I found it
Starting point is 00:09:26 very very entertaining It's brilliant man It was there These guys generally hate each other as well You know what That's what I re-talk from it Because Habib is not the most
Starting point is 00:09:34 Look he's a very Dark kind of stoic dude But you could see That whole street fight thing Just set him off And it was great It went for some fantastic TV Tony
Starting point is 00:09:46 is as outspoken and all over the place as he usually is and I loved it. Didn't like him telling the guy to fuck off who asked him about being an advocate for mental health
Starting point is 00:09:56 but at the same time it's ill. Very interesting. How much are you hoping that fight happens? Listen, you know me and you know how I feel about this fight.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I've wanted this fight to happen for five years and I yes, please God, MMA God, if there is an MMA God, just let this fight happen. I just need to see it. We've been dickheads in the past,
Starting point is 00:10:17 my God. We're all pulling our hands up here. This is the one. This is the only one we want. This is the biggest fight in terms of contests. We're never going to ask you for anything again after this. It's the biggest fight ever. It really is in terms of an actual contest between two guys
Starting point is 00:10:29 where we find it very, very hard to pick who wins. It's an insanely good fight. No, Tony elbows him off his back and knocks him out. That's what's going to happen. He's going to knock him out from guard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:40 There you go. It's going to be something insane from Toby Ferguson. Imagine it would be amazing. It's a call of the century. right. It is man and I think now we've seen
Starting point is 00:10:50 an extra level to this with that press conference with obviously Habib slapping Tony's interim title belt on the ground kicking it
Starting point is 00:10:59 or whatever he did with it and you saw the interviews obviously after as well the one-on-ones and the scrums there's genuine distaste between
Starting point is 00:11:06 those two guys and I think you have even harder in there with McGregor as well and everyone was talking about this rematch you've already
Starting point is 00:11:13 with paradigm all that Tony was openly talking about that as well. So you've, you've elements all over the place here where we can just create a dynasty of this lightweight division. The fights we've all wanted to see for years, I finally feel as though we might get all these fucking fights in the next 12 months. It's weird, right, though, because obviously this is a huge fight. And I feel like Habib and Tony should be all that Dana's talking about when either of those two guys are brought up, but yet again at the press comments, yet again at the press conference
Starting point is 00:11:40 he's saying, you know, Connor Habib is going to be bigger than Mayweather and etc. What do you think of Connor obviously getting involved and Habib and him throwing a bit of shit at each other again. I mean, is this just, any time either of them are going to be in the headlines, are we going to see one kind of throwing out of an or in. It's all good news for Tony Ferguson. He's flying under the radar.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Dana White's dismissing him as far as I'm concerned. I think a lot of the media are dismissing him as well, a lot of the fans are dismissing him. He's going to go out about his business quietly. I think everybody knows this is the best two fighters in the Louisville. How many times have we heard people talk about, you know, a world title rematch between Connor and like, that's
Starting point is 00:12:15 Most of them is Dana White though. No, not reading. I wouldn't agree with that. I haven't seen any media members go, I need to see Habib and Connor rematch before as he Habib and Tony. I don't think. No, but they're talking about the rematch
Starting point is 00:12:28 for the world title. Oh, yeah. So that's overlooking Tony, in my opinion. But listen, anyway, at the end of the day, I love it, I hope it happens. And yeah, Connor again, as you know,
Starting point is 00:12:39 he's done a great job of keeping his head in there, keeping people interested, keeping people talking. It's been new to everyone. Absolutely, absolutely right. Well, look, let's get on with our first interview over the day. It is the gorilla himself, Darren Till. He caught up with Noel McGraw for a bit of a chinwag about the middleweight championship
Starting point is 00:12:56 fight between Israel Adesania and Yol Romero that's kind of earned a lot of criticism, we'll say. And then he obviously talks a bit about this perceived fear of Yol Romero. The fact that he's not going on the piss for a whole year. And the fact that welterweight still seems to be an option. And of course, Noel asked him about. but UFC Dublin, Dana Hoyt's post-UFC 24A comments saying that Darren is most likely to fight there next. So, yeah, we'll be back to you guys in about 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Here is the fantastic Darren Till, who we never doubted. We'll be back on the show, of course. Delighted to welcome onto the show, have him back on the show. It's been quite a while that we've had him on Eurobashen MMAfighting.com. It is the man, Israel Adisani, had some comments to make about him,
Starting point is 00:13:40 and he's obviously a keen onlooker in this middleweight division. It is Darren Till. Darren, my friend, good to have you back on. How's all in Liverpool? It's good, mate. Liverpool's always good. Cheaple, especially after last night watching Paul Kelly make his longer way to return. So back with a bang. Yeah, you're a good pal, Paul Kelly.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Talk to me about that, back with a bang. You know, Baron Nookle, obviously a guy who's one of the pioneers of the Liverpool scene. Yeah, well, you know, I don't think I have to say much one. We all know where he's been, don't we, you know, for those that. I don't know where he's been. I'll just basically say he's been in jail for the past, I think, 10 years is it? And, you know, he's out and he wants to have a few fights and see if he's still got it and see what sort of level he can get up to.
Starting point is 00:14:27 You know, everyone knows he reached a fair level in the USA. So last night was his first comeback fight. He fought a tough kid, actually. And he stopped him in the second round, if I'm correct. So I'm still on a high from there, still a bit am tough. So going into the week with a positive little win there for all the guys of carbon, which is good, mate, isn't it? Good stuff, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:14:54 We've got to start it off obviously and ask you the big fight last night in Las Vegas, UFC 248. What did you make of the fight, Darren, between Israel and Osanna and Yo Romero? You know, it's got a lot of criticism online. It's got a lot of criticism from Dana White. What was your take on the fight? I just think it was stale, me. like,
Starting point is 00:15:15 I don't think anyone expected, you know, people can probably say that my last fight was quite stale, which it was, but I didn't figure up and not,
Starting point is 00:15:22 you know what I mean, I just, I sort of just, like, well, you know, went in there, got the win, technically,
Starting point is 00:15:30 and then went home, you know what I mean, all happy at me, my new division middleweight, and, but that fight was big tough, you know, obviously,
Starting point is 00:15:36 because everyone about, how scared of y'all is, and, you know, for the past few months, I've been making jokes about, you know, I'm scared of y'all because he's an animal
Starting point is 00:15:45 and, you know, Izzy's been in these technical wars and that, you know, like with gasoline. And then it's just like, as I said, mate, Yo looked dead heavy, didn't look as explosive and Izzy was sort of
Starting point is 00:15:58 running away of it and stuff like that, but, you know, you can always give them a due for one fight and, you know, you can give them a bypass, so that's it, really, mate,
Starting point is 00:16:09 there's not really a lot to comment because there was not a lot happening. The fight before the, the Joanna I think it's Waley Zhang is it mate?
Starting point is 00:16:19 Yeah that's the one man What a fight It was unreal Oh my God mate I have never seen a fight like that in my life
Starting point is 00:16:26 Where do you rank that Just just Just out of interest Is it the greatest That we've ever seen Fucking unbelievable Mains Unbelievable
Starting point is 00:16:35 It was I don't know what to say Unbelievable It was I was left speechless after It was a bit sour To come in And have a main event
Starting point is 00:16:43 Like that after such a spectacle we saw, you know, it's right up there for me as one of the greatest fights of all time. Oh my God, the straight, like them two girls give them five million dollars each. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And sarah, sarah, me, because they deserve it. And I actually, me, you know what? I thought, Joanna, just about grabbed that. I really did. Connor tweeted the same thing last night as well. He thought that she took it.
Starting point is 00:17:08 But listen, it was such a close fight. I don't think it was a loser in that fight. No, it's, listen, it's one of them things where whoever wins just wins and there's okay no hard feelings there are obviously hard feelings in the way of Joanna because she could be the champion but she sort of is a champion
Starting point is 00:17:23 after a fight like that means you know there's no other thing to do now apart from re-bucked a rematch mate what a fight man it was unbelievable one for the ages I think it's a Hall of Fame you know definitely in a couple of years yeah five years time it's getting inducted into the Hall of Fame
Starting point is 00:17:41 there's no questions asked definitely All right, as much as excited I was about that as well, Darren. What do you think, obviously? Oh, mate, I'm just staying in the middle now. My big belly. I need to get to the gym in the morning. Fucking hell.
Starting point is 00:17:56 You're a gas man, Darren. Darren, what do you think of Paola Costa? Will he match up better against Israel and Asana? How do you feel that fight's going to play it? I do think as much as, you know, everyone says, me fight is he next? I do think Paulo has a... I think he is like the rifle guy.
Starting point is 00:18:13 guy next to Fyfer, you know, the title. He's definitely, definitely, ain't it? Obviously, I know he's out. Is he out with surgery or something, is he? Yeah, he is at the moment he's recovering from surgery, yeah. Yeah, I don't know the story there, but yeah, I think maybe he's going to get the next shot, and he comes with a lot of aggression on power. He's a big dude.
Starting point is 00:18:31 He's not, not as, I don't think he's as quick as he, but he brings a lot of power. So I think it will be a good matchup. You know what, mate, I wouldn't like to pick him that fight harder, because that's a, that's a tough fight for both guys, technical, base aggression and strength and, you know, that could go either way, that's an interesting fight, especially that it's my division
Starting point is 00:18:53 I'm in as well, you know what I mean? Definitely. I'll keep it full out, close eye. I know you've said, and I know you said it's sort of half-jokingly about you all Romero, you know, being scared and afraid of him, but are you scared and afraid of him after watching that performance
Starting point is 00:19:07 last night? Of course, mate. He's a beast. I'm terrified. I don't believe you. do you not believe me? No, I don't believe you. Are you starting to get on to like, there's like 50% of people still comment and saying, I know I'm so scared and all that.
Starting point is 00:19:23 They still believe it. So, you know, I don't know. I think you're playing some mind games. And I think it's been the same. Listen, I'm comfortable with my own, mentality and my own, you know, I was going to catch the day, mates, if you want to fucking come and fight with me
Starting point is 00:19:40 or have you had on the safe, come and fucking fight. I don't go fucking shy to you are, but So that's why I don't really give a fuck To give like this mean ego off Or this, you know There's a time and the place You know, there's always guys I've had words with back and forth
Starting point is 00:19:53 And whenever I've seen them They haven't said anything Because I think they know that If you want to do something in front of me They can You know, I've seen Kabeb talking to Tony Like how many fights have you had on the steed? Like, I'll eat it and that
Starting point is 00:20:06 Like that's some fucking That's some scouser mentality shit, mate I'll fucking eat your face off a lot. You know what I mean? Like, that's my kind of mentality. So I'm very comfortable with myself
Starting point is 00:20:18 to like say, yeah, I'm afraid of this guy or I'm afraid of him. Have you taken a different you know, maybe you've taken a different approach and mindset as you're saying there from what you did and you know, you're a well-to-weight run because, you know, a lot of the time we saw you were,
Starting point is 00:20:32 you were very aggressive and in the guy's faces. Now it seems to be more passe, more chill, Darren Till, as you say. I've still got the same mentality and I'm building it back up in a different way to get even more stronger and powerful. But, like, yeah, there's been a few changes, a few tweaks. And hopefully for the better, hopefully for the wires,
Starting point is 00:20:53 hopefully for the stronger, you know, growing, more mature. You know, I'm only 27 as well, mate. I've still got another, you know, I've still got like eight years left in this game. So, you know, it's scary to think what I could achieve if I put my full capacity through it. So, yeah, there's been a few tweaks, mate, and I'm growing and I'm learning.
Starting point is 00:21:12 and, you know, new weight class. And, you know, if I get the belt this year, mate, I would love to go back down to Walterweight and challenge for whoever's the champion there. You know, set out to what I did, set out to do in Welterweight. Could you still make a weight to ask? Maybe one last tarah to make that threaded weight. Could you still make the weight cut, do you believe?
Starting point is 00:21:32 It's just, the only thing that I'd have to change there was, it would have to be, it'd have to be, it'd have to be a lot of months with the right, correct, 100% in every area to make the way for a one-time fight and then that's it, I call it, you know, a day because I put my body through some...
Starting point is 00:21:52 Oh, the baby's calling me daddy. I put my body through so much stress, you know, just for it and I couldn't do it anymore. Only one more time, probably. Fair enough, that's totally fair. Darren, I've got to ask you, Israel Adasania mentioned it in bedded this week. he's sort of implied
Starting point is 00:22:09 you know that he keeps his enemies closer and he knows what you want and that's his title he also called you a pussy as well how would you react to Israel yeah mate
Starting point is 00:22:22 who the fuck's he talking to la what he mess up it's all good of course of course he's keeping me close we speak every day me and him we message every day
Starting point is 00:22:34 so it's all good mate people there's another There's an underbelly there, though, Darren, isn't it? It's a tone. I think it's more of a sarcastic tone to maybe get underneath Israel's nerves. Is that fair to say? Yeah, and also, you know Israel knows I'm not scared to y'all.
Starting point is 00:22:50 He's just doing that for the... You know, he knows what he's doing. You know, so do I, you know. Look at the way I've marketed this whole thing now with the y'all thing and everything. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's been great. genius life. So what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:09 So right, I've got to ask you then, right? You know, Dana White mentioned last night and, you know, I know you're keen on fighting in the US. I'll ask you that probably first. Any updates on the visa issue for you to get back into the US to be able to fight? Yeah, well, I've got a meeting
Starting point is 00:23:25 in two weeks about it and then I'll have a final decision and it's 100% I'm going to get one in the two weeks time. So I've just got to wait now, play the waiting game that and I've also got to thank the UFC and all the legal staff there for the help they give me, mate, you know, I'm
Starting point is 00:23:42 probably a pain in the ass of them. They've got, like, Washington lawyers and everything on it, but, so, you know, as much as there's a lot of things that fighters and that cry about with the UFC, like, oh, pay this, pay that, and, you know, I'm one of them guys, like, you know, yeah, a little bit of extra pay, it'd be nice and that. You need to remember a lot of the things
Starting point is 00:23:58 the UFC does for us as well, you know what I mean? So, you know, it's good and bad sometimes, isn't it? Definitely, 100%. Dana, as I said, also mentioned, we talked about this a little bit off air before we came on. He implied that your next fight's probably going to be in Dublin here in Ireland. What are your thoughts on that as many contact with Dana?
Starting point is 00:24:17 I'll tell him when my next fight is, and that's all that is to say about that, all right, mate? Fair enough, but has there been... I'm not any messing. Now, if he says it's Dublin, mate, it's. But I'd love to, like, come soon and say, can I maybe squeeze one in before Dublin, you know, because I am in, like, sort of a fight shape now.
Starting point is 00:24:34 and ready to go in the next few weeks, maybe a month too. But it just depends, mate, that we're all phase up. You know, I'm looking at that year. I was looking at Brunson and Edmund. They got rescheduled. I was looking forward to that fight. But, you know, whatever happened with them. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:24:52 But, mate, I fought in Dublin in 2015. I think I fought 24th of October 2015. And, oh my God, mate. I had the fight of the night with Dalby. it was entered into the top 10 fights of that year and mate what a crowd what a city
Starting point is 00:25:08 what a place I was going to mention that to you that fight against Dalby that was a special special fight and you know it was an incredible fight obviously a draw
Starting point is 00:25:18 but you know Dublin is a place that's sort of close to your heart there's a great relationship with Dubliners and Liverpool and Ireland and Liverpool would that be a bucket list
Starting point is 00:25:26 moment to headline a card here in Ireland for you well yeah because back then I was you know fairly unknown now with the following I've got and you know every time I go to Ireland mate
Starting point is 00:25:37 it's like I'm the most popular person wherever else I've been it's like I couldn't even imagine what like happens with McGregor and that while he's there but they probably used to seeing him now the way people in Liverpool used to see me mate that'd be like
Starting point is 00:25:53 another highlight for me another highlight in here you know so if Dana's saying that then let's fucking do it me yeah I'd be down for that. I think you've, you know, as I said, anytime I see you here, there's people, you know, all over you, so it'll be a no-brainer
Starting point is 00:26:08 for me to have you. Yeah, and the after-party, be more. Definitely, definitely, that's the one thing you haven't done, darn, you haven't, we've never had a beer when you, when you've been here, we've never had a point to Guinness together, man. We got our, we got... Well, I'm actually teetotal this year, though, so
Starting point is 00:26:23 my next, my next beer that'll touch my mouth will be there 15th to December. I made myself a little promise. I was like, where this year 2020 I'm not going to drink I'm going to like focus even more than I usually do
Starting point is 00:26:36 and you know I do like a beer every now and then but I'm going to cut it out for a year so Have you not had a drop this year at all? I didn't have a drop over Christmas not for my birthday not while I was in Brazil the last drop of beer I had
Starting point is 00:26:48 was like the 11th of December in 2019 so till like the 11th 15th of this year I won't have a drop of beer And why is it was becoming a problem or is it just you want to cut it out never a problem but you know I like a beer and it's like you know sometimes you go out a little bit unfocused and if you haven't got a fight booked it's so easy for your mates to say and I'm like
Starting point is 00:27:10 oh let's go out just for one and then one turns into 150 next minute you're naked in matthonald buying cheese burgers you know what I mean mate it's just a it's not a good combo I'm irish made I well I well know what the Guinness does yeah yeah yeah but you you're on the level but so it's just a little thing for me like focus even more than I usually did in the past and put everything and I've already do even more into getting this belt and setting out what
Starting point is 00:27:39 a set out to do so, you know, one year no, no, no, no beer. It's not going to harm anyone, is it, mate? Fair play to you, yeah. I respect that and admire that. Darren, I have to ask you in terms of the division itself, obviously it was you know, you would aim to fight Jared Canaaner on Saturday night's car there, that was the plan but it's gone a little bit out the window with his
Starting point is 00:27:59 pectoral injury. How do you see the dynamic of the division now in terms of you going forward and who you're going to fight next? It could be Jared in Dublin, mate. If that's what Dana's saying, it could well be Jared still. I still think he's up there.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Is that the fight you want? Yeah. If he's the beast and if y'all's the beast and all these guys the beast, then I want them because I'm a fucking beast. So that's it, mate.
Starting point is 00:28:28 The division's looking very exciting. It is. so you know if it's jatted it's shattered mate but if it's anyone apart from you all will you stop that now it's getting old darned do you look at this right just a couple more and I do appreciate the time yeah in terms of the division and looking at the year I know you're a guy you like to visualize things what is the path you see for this year but you know towards the end of the year by the end of the year it would be it would be it will be be a
Starting point is 00:29:02 beat to have the title. That would put the cherry on top and then coming into 2021 maybe looking at a move back down to Walter Whiting trying to solidify that last belt
Starting point is 00:29:15 and then you know going from there both divisions made a tough tough divisions they really are Ushman's a killer
Starting point is 00:29:26 down at Welterweight and you know that's it. It made that sort of the visualisation plan. But as the same is, anything can happen. Anything can happen. It's like, you know, one wrong move
Starting point is 00:29:40 and it's out of the window. So you've just got to be careful, but you've got to, as you're saying, you've got to put everything into it. Yeah, you know, you seem totally, you know, obviously you've learned a lot from that fight against Tyram Woodley and we've talked about that before,
Starting point is 00:29:55 but you seem totally focused on riding those wrongs of that championship fight that you lost, obviously, against Torrin Woodley. Is that the feeling? Yeah, that was, as I say, mate, that mentality sort of, I'm the best, fuck you, I don't know, blah, blah, blah. And then, you know, Woodley beat me,
Starting point is 00:30:11 and then obviously, you know, there was the worst loss to Masvital, and it sort of like made me tweak, as I said to you before me, made me tweak a few things, but I appreciate that beating that Woodley gave me. You know, one day maybe we were going to back, but that does it.
Starting point is 00:30:29 don't know. I don't know what will happen, but, you know, thank you very much if you're listening there, Taran. Stop posting pictures on Instagram of elbow on me in the face. I don't appreciate it. Oh, a bit of beef there, is there?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah, a little bit of beef. I can't get so mad at him because I do like his mother. I think his mother's a nice person. That's fair. That is fair. Darren, listen, I'd love to see a headline here in Dublin. I hope everything goes your way in terms of the V's
Starting point is 00:31:01 and that you're still are you still sliding up in Donald Trump's DMs? I can send you the screenshot of all the messages and you'll die honestly you'll die I sent a son of message I was like yo mate get your dad to message me back so I'll send you that screenshot promise
Starting point is 00:31:19 but yeah nothing with that brilliant stuff Darren listen I always appreciate the time I'm looking forward to seeing you get back in there thanks again for a for stopping one show. Yeah, mate.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Thank you. Have a good Sunday, mate. And what a pleasure it was to have Mr. Till back in the building. Back in the show, Darren now. Come on, Darren. Just text back next time. Don't make it a process.
Starting point is 00:31:41 You know, you could be a host if you wanted to, Darren. Like, you know, at this stage, Europe's biggest podcast, why not? You know? I don't see why not. Get him on, yeah. Come on as a special co-host
Starting point is 00:31:51 or something in London with you. Like, I mean, he could probably demand a lesser paycheck than Noel McGrath. That was a load. it's a it's a it's a my bank account mate look it's it's all this the money he spends on Guinness we need a Guinness
Starting point is 00:32:04 sponsorship for Noel McGra also a few different things we're working on sure looks like Paul Felder's a donut sponsorship after last week you're right there thank you for that thank you sir and yes lovely stuff let's get on to what happened last weekend at UFC 248 will begin
Starting point is 00:32:20 we'll get on the cage warriors later but holy shit um one of the greatest fights ever followed by one of the lamest fights ever when we say, erp, no, I was just trying to say something that matches, but I mean, a lot of complaints on that main event, maybe
Starting point is 00:32:34 we should talk about that first. Adasania v. Romero, it was very tough to watch after the war that had preceded it. I find that didn't give it. I don't think it was tough to watch. I think that's unfair. No, I thought it was quite dense. I was like intrigued, because we
Starting point is 00:32:50 know how explosive yole can be, and I think that was one of the sort of facets we were talking about coming in, you know, you know, the yo would explode like Chris, he did against Chris Wyman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And listen, I think he's not getting enough stick here as well. You know, if you're going to criticize both them, have a criticise of Israel as well. Israel was sprinting literally off the back foot on a number of occasions. So he was finding very hard to close the distances.
Starting point is 00:33:13 But you're allowed to do that in fighting. Like, that's my point. Like, I mean, the thing is for, for both, I understand where Alessan,
Starting point is 00:33:19 you fought the way he did. And I, I understand less the way Romero fought, to be honest. to be honest that that's what I saw okay right what could Romero do then better to try and get at him actually throw punches I guess
Starting point is 00:33:35 but he couldn't close the distance yeah I know but I mean that's up to him to close the distance if he's getting landed on him by Adasania which I felt he was I felt I get it right after watching the first round because he lands a big left in the first round and he wins that round for me then you're kind of going well maybe that's what he's going to try and do in every round but when it doesn't happen in round two two, three, four.
Starting point is 00:33:56 You're going, all right, you're going to have to go hell for a letter here in the fifth. And I just didn't think he really did. Like, the problem I see with it mostly for Romero is the fact that Dana White's come out and said he was never pointing for a title again, basically. He wasn't that pointed with the criticism, I guess. Like, I mean, it did feel like he was definitely on more Izzy's side than Romero's. But the fact that he's put Romero in this title shot, the whole thing has been built on how scary is, all the video and the buildup, all the things that went viral were just him being
Starting point is 00:34:24 excruciating and intimidating to media members like that ESPN interviewer he's like, go, go. And then the Oscar Willis one, did you see that? Where he asked him, what's the biggest mistake you ever made in his life? And it got very intense very quickly. You don't want to know.
Starting point is 00:34:41 You don't want Doc. It was, but like, I mean, do you think that's probably the way, probably is the last time we're going to see Romero for a middleweight way toilet? Probably, yeah, probably, you know, Dana, when he comes out and says these things, especially in situations like that,
Starting point is 00:34:53 when it's, playing directly into his bank account in his pocket. He's, you know, he normally does stick to his guns. That's the one thing he does stick to his guns on. And I think, you know, Roel, Yoles at the age now where, yeah, like that could very well be his last shot at the big time. And I would not be surprised if we see him, you know, maybe run out his contract and then head over to Belliswere fighting championships.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Who knows? Who knows? It's the thing about Adisania is I found, like, I get what you're saying, like, both of them deserves criticism for the result. of what it was, the spectacle there, but the amount of people that have jumping off to Israel-Atessania bandwagon because of that fight is unbelievable. Like, I mean, we're forgetting, like,
Starting point is 00:35:35 Anderson Silva's fights. I mean, one of the greatest furiders of all time, like, for it had a profound effect of me when he was on his assent. Wonderboy, Wonderboy and Woodley, Part 2. You know, like, Till v. Wonderboy. Till v. Gostleum. You know, like, it's so quickly that these people
Starting point is 00:35:51 flip-flop on these guys, I just think it's crazy. It's mad our sport. When you see what Romero's done to guys with one shot before and then you're going, why didn't that assign you go in and fucking just stand in the pocket and exchange with him? It's like, that's the reason why.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah, well, I mean, it's clever. I can understand the way, maybe I'm being a little bit more lenient to both guys. I can understand the way, the way,
Starting point is 00:36:11 the way that fight played out. We even said it last week. We were like, he's not going to try much takedowns. I think he tried to take down round three. It didn't work and then we're back to a stalemate. But I do feel. I just don't understand.
Starting point is 00:36:24 understand that, to be honest, with Yol as well. Maybe that's one thing, you know, why does he never use his fucking wrestling? Maybe it's just saps too much power. Like, his body is incredible, like, I mean, and the argument we always hear is when you have that muscle on your body, when you do exert yourself, it takes a lot longer. Sure I know, like, look
Starting point is 00:36:40 at me, I was gonna ask. Is it true? Yeah, of course it does, Pete. It's like... Don't be ridiculous, mate. Yeah, but listen, at the end of the day, it is what it is. We're going to get fights like that, and we can't be too greedy the whole time. I saw some people moan about, like, the pay-per-view. I paid money for this. You paid money for the best women's fight in mixed martial arts history.
Starting point is 00:36:58 One of the best fights ever. Ever. Yeah. So like, just get over. Like, shit happens. It's, it's the fight game. It's not fucking tidly winks. What was your state when you were watching Wiley and Joanna? I was in a hotel room by myself, try not to wake up.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Well, sorry, Elaine was asleep in bed. And I was trying not to wake her up. Because I was watching a boy, and I kept on going, like, holy fuck. Jesus Christ. Yeah. And she'd be like, shut the fuck. I was actually remarkably calm. I managed to to sort of do that over the last year, a couple of years. Now that one, for me,
Starting point is 00:37:29 is an exception to the real. I was actually here in the office and fucking watching it on the box there. And I was trying to go, Jesus, let's try and score this. I wasn't doing that at all. I had lost my lost. But I think I'd actually probably scored the same way if I look back on it again. I haven't watched it back yet again. I need to watch it back yet.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I do. And I think I had it, Wiley, the first two, Joanna, the second, the third and the fourth. And I just shaded the fifth to Wiley. but like it could have gone either way. It was one of those fights, but listen, just one for the ages,
Starting point is 00:37:58 man, and, you know, just, just very special. And I don't think MMA often gets the credit. It does.
Starting point is 00:38:03 It was obviously women's international day on Sunday. MMA has always been excellent for, for women and female athletes. They've always promoted them on the same level as the men.
Starting point is 00:38:14 So, you know, just on that now, did you see Leah McCart featured in the BBC image they did for it. That was class. Yeah, that was very good. Lee gets a lot of, um,
Starting point is 00:38:22 media and mainstream media coverage up, north and it's great to see that. And she was right at the top of the table as well. I thought that was deadly. It was great to see that. Beneathar, Yush, unbelievable. Finish of Draccar, close to. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:38:34 It was fantastic. I thought Neil Magny was fantastic against the Leach as well, man. Yeah, he was. Really good. Cowboy back in the wind, calling him against Max Griffin is a very good fight. It was. But what about the sugar, man? Ireland's own.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Fantastic return to action. I thought, I mean, I said to you last week, if this this isn't spectacular. It's going to feel like nearly a backward step for this guy because it was sad to have railroaded him for two years
Starting point is 00:39:00 and Jesus Christ man that was a stunning finish. Listen, you couldn't have done any more. He couldn't have gone any more to plan in terms of what you do and get in the cage
Starting point is 00:39:09 and walk out with his statement. He does after this shit. 100%. You could see what it meant to him. He was exceptionally emotional. He goes, this meant so much to me in the post-fight Octagon
Starting point is 00:39:19 interview with Joe Rogan. And yeah, I'm delighted for him because he's one of these guys that his career is being on hold and we need as we said last week we need guys like this to promote the future of the sport
Starting point is 00:39:32 and keep the sport in the mainstream and make that transition it's very very important so I'm really interested to see you now what they do with Sean because that's a decent tough dude like not many people knocked the shit out of Kenonez like that
Starting point is 00:39:46 and he did that kick that he landed was unbelievable man sweet dude and I think it was the upper cut was the upper cut? Komener, left hook or whatever it was on the deck when he was on his knees. Really smooth from Sean O'Malley. Yeah, really happy I am with that.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And I think we need him now to, you know, knock up the ladder and maybe, fuck it, put him on Komey and Dublin. Like, people would love that. Nathaniel Wood versus Sean O'Malley. There you go. Do it for Dublin, motherfuckers. Markle Madsen's takedowns are a thing of beauty. I know the man broke his jaw in the second round of that fight,
Starting point is 00:40:19 but it's rare to see someone get, that many takedowns in the open match space. You know, usually in MMA you see a lot of push him against the fence, take them down. He's unbelievable. Can I just say one thing about those two prelims and some of the prelims we saw? Absolutely disgusted with the crowd.
Starting point is 00:40:37 There was no one in the arena. Like, Sean O'Malley, why aren't you going to watch Sean O'Malley and Marco Madsen? And Rodolfo Vieira. Like, Jesus Christ. The arena was empty. I couldn't believe watching.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I was like, what the fuck are people at, man? Like, seriously, guys? Fucking hell. Get a grip. Yeah, it's crazy. Rodolfo Vieira as well. Beautiful, beautiful win over Saperbach-Savaroff. Again, armed triangle chow.
Starting point is 00:41:01 He just looks in a different league. And Marco Madsen as well. Did you see the man of Danish in the arena? There was actually a fucking... He's a national icon there, man. He's bringing over a lot of people, man. Yeah. He really is. It was great to see.
Starting point is 00:41:13 But yeah, sorry, you interrupting you there all over the place left and right. No, that's pretty much all of it from the European point of view anyway. Obviously, Darren Wayne drops another fight. fight there to Jared Merchart that's two in a bounce
Starting point is 00:41:25 after Darren Stewart has got that split decision win I thought it was a pretty clear win for Darren Stewart that time didn't know why it was a split decision
Starting point is 00:41:33 but yeah really great card and look go easy on these guys man I mean what would you do if you fought Roller Romero Jesus Christ
Starting point is 00:41:43 you'd be out of that fucking arena as soon as the fucking music came out and probably defecating my shorts wake up in a pool of your own shit
Starting point is 00:41:50 yeah he's terrifying He's still terrifying. I still really like the guy, but it's hard to argue when Dane is looking at it and looking at what, like looking up Zhang
Starting point is 00:41:59 and you and J-check and then that. Yeah, the Kulman did it no favour. Oh my God. It was a blood orgy. Imagine the two of them warming up in the back looking at this going, fuck we've to, you know, try and replicate that.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Yeah. Unbelievable. Listen, we can't have it the way we want it all the time. Shit happens. It's the fight game. Do you think, I think Costa and Atosania,
Starting point is 00:42:20 as Till was saying there, on. I think that's going to be a far better fight. I think there's no way the way cost of fights that he can do anything differently if he wants to win the title. He has to go out and do what he does. Oh, stand in the pocket and trade. Stand in the pocket and trade
Starting point is 00:42:37 and getting Izzy's face. That's the only way he wins the title or beats Izzy. So yes, it's going to be a far more intriguing battle. You'd assume. Cage Warriors 112 was absolutely amazing. It was fantastic. I got to see more It is live
Starting point is 00:42:53 because I was cheekily watching in the bathroom of the wedding but yeah Jack Cartwright scares the shit out of me and I want to grow a rat's tail now what you think? I love the rats tail idea
Starting point is 00:43:03 do you think I could do it like do you think I could pull it off I'm from Blanchet I mean it was a common hair You don't have a tradition of growing your hair long though ever do you well I mean
Starting point is 00:43:13 it's not really a lot of my hair I have to grow long I could definitely do it but my hair grows it You were always gonna do it a mullet but you're pussyed out of it I've done the mullet loads of times. What are you saying?
Starting point is 00:43:21 A real one. I've done a proper mon of lots of times. Like you're an extra in a Leonard Skinner video. There. There, but you never let it grow into its full beauty at the back. I've never seen it. Yeah, you haven't seen it. If you do it, I want you to do it right.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Yeah, it's not fun of it. Maybe get a moustache as well. I need a woman at this stage in my life. It's just to calm me down, stop me going to the pub. Yeah, maybe. But, Ed, Jack Carroy, absolutely one side win over a manual village. We saw some of that wrestling, which was great. great to see what is fucking right hand man i just can't it just looks though he's just trying to lump
Starting point is 00:43:53 the head off you and then he just take down if he if he wants but when he hits lads like i mean billich was from nearly every round he looked like he was like you know jesus christ every time he got hit with that big loop and i i don't really know how he got even around in that fight i find it hard to understand how some of the judges gave him a couple of rounds in that fight did did they yeah like it wasn't too like there was only 150 455 in the card like so yeah it was a bit bit bizarre but I thought he won confidently everywhere I don't want to commit to anything much but I thought it was
Starting point is 00:44:24 absolutely one side is and it great to see the crowd out for Manchester for that like the first one because I know that they were always like do we have the draws here I think Jack has proven that they do and Adam Proctor for me is the show in to fight Reese McKin in Belfast looked amazing against Flaminus
Starting point is 00:44:42 so dominant and in every facet of the game like I mean it's striking he was backing up completely and then on the ground he was establishing mountain early every time he hit the deck just it's a guy we always knew that was going to be right at the top of the bracket of welter and i don't see a better fight than reese mckey and proctor well that's that's the one that's mean you know i think it was pretty much that was like the semi-final to get on that to face reese proctor didn't say much about it afterwards when he was asked about it you know yeah i don't i don't get it unless cage warriors you know we did a little chat about that
Starting point is 00:45:14 beforehand unless they want to have separate directions for both guys. They've done them in the past. Two young great prospects. But I mean, if you're going to put on the best fight for me right now, that would be it. 100%. And like, you know, as you said, if Reese goes out from an Irish point of view, if Reese goes out there and takes Proctor's head off and touches him with that debt, that's a UFC contract from me straight away.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Absolutely. Where do you go after it? George Smith. Especially after seeing Proctor at the weekend, how good he was. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. that was the performance we've been waiting for really I think in Cageware is absolutely stunning
Starting point is 00:45:47 George Smith had a great arm bar win over Lucas Marsencowski and what about James Webb unbelievable in the wind column yeah like I mean Jesus that's a tough fight Mick Stanton was absolutely brilliant in 2019 I think he was 3 and 0 he just moved up to middleweight looked very well around it and you know the whole thing about Stanton was like here's this boxer
Starting point is 00:46:06 who's learned how to wrestle so well Webb completely dominated him on the ground yeah big time like his takedowns were fantastic multiple takedowns in every round. Nearly rare naked choke. Was that the last round? Yeah, he's just kind of off the side of it. But this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Webb from the notorious Frederick fights, I guess his activity on top was the thing that was called into question. Look at the work he's doing now. I mean, yeah, look, he came away with a draw that time instead of a win. I think Chris came out and said he did a very challenging camp. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:34 He only could train for three weeks. It's unbelievable. And he looked in great shape to me. He actually looked really lean to me when he was in there and stuff. So great stuff to see James back there. Like definitely the front line of that KFG and without a doubt. Not that we thought otherwise, but Jesus Christ,
Starting point is 00:46:48 he's been the guy that's really blazing a trail for them in terms of MMA from the get-go. And of course, Ian Gary and everyone else behind him. But yeah, really, really good card. Another loss for Scott Malone, unfortunately. But, yeah, what about Paul Hughes? What about Paul Hughes? Unbelievable, stunning again. And I think, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:08 He never, like, I don't think he threw a head kick in that fight until that one. and then good luck. Just so cool. And the way he stood over him? It's just, it's just, I love the arrogance, the brash. Oh, man. I love it. You go, this kid is star power.
Starting point is 00:47:22 And I think he does. You know, I was texting Joe McCoggin yesterday. He was in his corner, obviously. And Joe was just telling me he was speeches. He didn't even know what to say after it because it was everything they wanted to do, translated into the fight and even more. So, yeah, it's just really good to see. It's going to be very interesting to do next with him.
Starting point is 00:47:41 he's given Mads Bernel and Morgan Sharier abuse in his post fight unbelievable like the guy he's confidence for days oh my god it's great he's 22 it's crazy like and what about Caposa sharing it
Starting point is 00:47:53 it would call him Irish Uber prospect I was like oh my God that just gets well I think we've known that for a while but it's obviously Paul's been very unfortunate with his hands multiple breaks guys not want to fight him
Starting point is 00:48:04 fight cards you know last minute sort of getting thrown off and it's been frustrating but it's been frustrating but it's good to see him back in there now. He's had two fights behind his belt and short succession. He'll be on the Belfast card, I'm sure, for May.
Starting point is 00:48:18 So that's three fights within short succession, and that's what he needs. He needs momentum to start building up and get these bigger names, definitely. And if you're going to put Paul Hughes on the card, why not put James Sheen on it as well? Fantastic clean work from Team Roanos, James Sheen. Great to see him back in there.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Took a beautiful rear-negade choke. Real, like, you know, real clean clinical performance there. I'm sure Andy was very, very happy with that. Beautiful, beautiful performance, I thought. An absolute stud, yeah. So, I mean, I guess that's all from what happened there. So hopefully we'll have Cartwright on the Belfast card. He says he wants to defend there.
Starting point is 00:48:53 We'll have Proctor v. Reese McKee. And we'll have all these others prospects. Husey, McCaldon. Everyone. Is Bellator London going down the same day? Is that Cage Warriors? I think it is. Bellator London.
Starting point is 00:49:04 On the same day as the Belfast card? Possibly is. I think it is. that would be very, very interesting, because I know where I'd be going. Yeah, I wonder where I'm going to get sent. Like, I mean, it's up to the US office where I'll go out there.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Well, I think in terms of, if, you know, you're an Irish fan and you're an MMA fan in Europe, all greater respect to Bellator, but there's a lot seems to be riding on the line with that Cage Warrior's card. Well, definitely in Ireland. There's not a lot of interest,
Starting point is 00:49:32 but it's just in terms of international where you've got names like James Gallagher, MVP, these guys are a card. It's going to be tough. so yeah interesting to see how that one goes Roy let's get on with our second interview of the day as we said it's a blockbuster episode so we brought back one of the favorites
Starting point is 00:49:48 Piotr Yan who's going to be fighting Marlon Moroy in the main event of USC, Kazakhstan as he confirms on the call and Piotr seems very focused here and obviously didn't have a lot of nice things to say about Henry Sehudo or Sehedo as no likes to call him but yeah we'll have a listen with Peter and we'll be back in about 15
Starting point is 00:50:08 minutes. Talk to his then. And once again, your favorite guest is back on Eurobash. It is none other than the Siberian gangster himself. Piotr Jan, who has some big news, it seems, based on his social media profiles. Piotr, it's been a long time since we have talked to you. How are you, my friend? Very good, brother. Very good.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Now, I must ask, you have just put out a post saying that you have some for your first UFC main event. As far as we knew, you had agreed fights with Aljo, Marais and Cody Sandhagen. There was a report last week on M.M.A. Junkie saying you would fight Marais in the main event of U.S.C. Kazakhstan on June 13th. Is this the fight that you have signed for today? As we've seen, you've seen in social media,
Starting point is 00:51:03 that you've got to have a contract on his first point in the the main the main the last in the last week there was
Starting point is 00:51:11 there's you would be with with Kazas in Kazz in Kazz and how
Starting point is 00:51:17 that's what you have got you got we we got a win my
Starting point is 00:51:23 Moraisem it's a work of XX I'm very really that I'm very much
Starting point is 00:51:29 with the number of our division and the victory on him I
Starting point is 00:51:33 think would be such big big challenge for the title. Yes, thanks to my management team and to UFC. We got the fight with Marais. It's a big fight.
Starting point is 00:51:44 He's the number one in the rankings, and it's the main event. It's going to be a good challenge for me before a fight for the title. Yes, I want to speak about the title later on, but just wanted to keep it on UFC Kazakhstan for a second. And I know this is very close to Russia. What does it mean to Piotr to be main eventing there? and does he believe it will attract a lot of fans from his night of Russia to come and see him fight there? Kazakhstan is located in the same as to Russia, and what, for you, means to be the main point in Afghanistan,
Starting point is 00:52:20 and pre-de-lety, many people, you think, from Russia to be able to. Yeah, of course, to be it, where he was not been in Kazakhstan, it's in Russia, and other, it's very cool. I think that on me, too, very big. And I think that, of course, a great number of people from for me to be able to be, and not only for me, in the country, Kazakhstan not so
Starting point is 00:52:45 from Russia, and there need no need a visa. Yeah, I think it's great to headline the event. Doesn't matter where it's going to be in Kazakhstan, Russia or anywhere else, but it's also a big responsibility. And I believe a lot of fans will travel from Russia to Kazakhstan
Starting point is 00:53:03 because it's close and you don't need a visa go there. Amazing, amazing. And you know, there's one thing I've been thinking about with the Russian fighters in particular. I know that there has been some bands for Russian athletes in the Olympics and the World Cup, but I know how big MMA is there. And I was wondering, with athletes not being able to go to the Olympics or the World Cup, does that make the MMA fighters even more important for the Russian people as they go in and take on the world as Piotr is doing in the UFC? Do you feel without the football players and the other athletes, it makes the MMA athletes even more important to the Russian people?
Starting point is 00:53:40 You know, you, that, you know, in the situation in the sportive in the world, where, you know, with the Russian sportsmen, where they're not going to be able to, and to be able to show to the country, you? You know, that these circumstances have affected on the, that,
Starting point is 00:53:54 that, even MMA, of my players from Russia, they've been more popular and started, their their performance, they've been more important for
Starting point is 00:54:05 for Russians, for the bolers, because they continue, like, they're, like, they're, like, from other sportsmen who are not doing
Starting point is 00:54:13 to do. Of course, I think that a big, big, example, and for many people,
Starting point is 00:54:19 that, you know, love your country, you need, if I'm there I love, I love my
Starting point is 00:54:26 I love your side, I'm I'm doing, I'm going to also, of to go to and to show you can do get to
Starting point is 00:54:33 reach big high high high school, I think it's a big example, and for sportsmen that in the political
Starting point is 00:54:42 moment there's not like of this big of there. I think us, as athletes and
Starting point is 00:54:50 other fighters fighting and competing and representing our country, raising the flag. It's a good example for a young generation, and I take pride in representing my country on the world stage. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Now, let's get into the burning question here, because after Piotr beat Yeroya Faber, I felt as though he was definitely going to be the next guy who fought for the title against Henry Sehudo. We now know that Henry Sehudo is going to take on Jose Aldo, who was coming off two losses in the main event of this Sao Paulo event in May, did Piotr expect to be fighting for the title after he beat Faber? And was he surprised by the announcement that Sehudo would be facing Aldo instead of him?
Starting point is 00:55:43 After the time you've won't you, that you even put yourself for the title? And was you was surprised after the boy of Darry Alde, who were in two-perjohnies? No, I don't say that I'd just to fight for the or that I'm really dismayed, that I'm really disozoal, boy for a poise. I'm, I'm taking these rules of the game and, in
Starting point is 00:56:03 principle, I, too, like, I don't do anything I don't do anything to do it, I think that I need to try to do it, and to do it really deserve it. If you need, I, I've already, I've said, we'll ever be able to be with division to get a boy-z-a-poise. Yeah, I can't say I was expecting. fight for the title and and I cannot say that I was upset
Starting point is 00:56:27 Jose got his shot and if I need to prove to the everyone and to the division that I deserve to fight for the title I can do it with my actions and like I said before if I have to clean out the division to get this title shot I will do it no problem it feels to me that there is a growing animosity between him and Henry Sehudo and you know ever since this announcement has gone gone out there have been back and forth on social media does he believe that Sehudo is a bad champion for the division based on the fact that he is not fighting the number one contenders and instead fighting Aldo he brought him
Starting point is 00:57:10 is the same thing, that you have you've got a lot of a bitters, a conflict, and you, you know, that Sehuda is a bad champion for Deizone because he doesn't want to fight with the main pretenants, but he
Starting point is 00:57:25 defers Salda. Dehuda, he actually, I'll say, well, he , he's, he was, he made, he won't, he played, he was, he wanted to protect him, he, there was, he, there was,
Starting point is 00:57:37 he, there, was, he, had, and one division, he, in that he could not he would be to protect the place, although he would be able to
Starting point is 00:57:43 protect 57, there promurisil over a year, like he's, like, but now, he's overmurrish he,
Starting point is 00:57:48 he's been with whom he would be drace, there. I'm not, it's quite, if, if is going to
Starting point is 00:57:55 he's going to be able to be alde, but, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:58:02 no, I'm, to him kind of, just, it's, just, it's, You know he won the flyway title and never defended his belt and he was holding up the division
Starting point is 00:58:16 The division was a big question and then after he wants a bentaway title he also didn't defend his belt for a long time and kind of Was hesitant about his next move and was holding up the division too, you know and I can't say like I dislike him, but I want to beat him up and I think he doesn't have balls Okay, did Sehudo take it too far with his recent post where he began to criticize Piotr's English speaking and he called him a communist potato? Is that a bit too personal? Is that cutting it a bit too close to the skin for Piotr? Does that intensify his feelings towards Sehudo at all? You know you that Sehuda I've been
Starting point is 00:59:04 to the short of his last statements and it started a little when he called communistical cartoes and so do you it's just
Starting point is 00:59:12 personal? No, no, no in any of any of any in any of course, I'm very hard to I've been to something
Starting point is 00:59:19 to do that something like to him to him to him interest, I'm to support,
Starting point is 00:59:25 I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, No, I have to him to him, I don't know, I don't know, I'm just a just a hope to he's justly.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Yeah, you have to try harder to make it personal for me, you know. For me, it's mainly, it's a sport interest. He got, he got what I want, that's why I want to fight him, you know, and, you know, you have to try harder. He said, he, he said, he said,
Starting point is 00:59:55 he said, you've got to, you, I also want to beat, there's a lice of Brazileza, who's like to know, like, you know, like, or, you know, like, I, after a posteux,
Starting point is 01:00:05 and so I, he's probably, he's not even in the way he's not sure he's to be able to him. Yeah, by him saying
Starting point is 01:00:12 he wants to fight Aldo because he's coming back from the injury, and I think it showed that he is not confident in himself, and he's just saying
Starting point is 01:00:22 that I beat up the the 41-year-old retired skier, but it's a guy that he was calling out too, so I don't get him. Yes, so if everything goes according to plan, and he beats Morais in June in the main event of UFC Kazakhstan, does he believe he will get the title shot then,
Starting point is 01:00:43 or does he feel as though Sehudo is going to constantly try to avoid fighting him? If all right, if all right, you'll be on the day of the night, You're, you think you, that you'll get a 100% guaranteed a war on the point? Or if you're going to be able to try to fight with you? I very want, if I win this boy, to get the next boy for a poise. I think that there's not really going to find some
Starting point is 01:01:11 than to fight with me. I think that I'm deserve it. There's six, seven wins in a lot. There's no one of, let's, say, this high in our division
Starting point is 01:01:23 if I beat Marais I think it will be very hard for Syruda to deny my shot at the belt
Starting point is 01:01:31 because I will be on the seven fight within streak and going to be ranked number one so
Starting point is 01:01:37 I don't think he's going to find his way out of the fight with me does Pioter believe he
Starting point is 01:01:42 will be a UFC champion before the end of the year 2020 20-20 Do you?
Starting point is 01:01:46 Do you think you that you're that you're going to be champion in the U.S. More yes than no? Why did he feel like it might not happen this year? Why do you think that it might not happen in this year? I don't know, I always try to see what situation, and when there is, yeah, yeah, but if there, no,
Starting point is 01:02:15 I, I know, I believe in its own, I believe in my I want to but I understand that there's something I want to it's going to
Starting point is 01:02:22 it's I'm not get me wrong I'm confident in myself and in my skills but there's always
Starting point is 01:02:29 some different situations can happen and that I'm out of my control so we'll see how does he see the fight where Moroy is going
Starting point is 01:02:38 because Moro's is quite a big dude a very imposing fighter for the the weight division and when I think about this
Starting point is 01:02:45 fight on I feel as though Piotr will be so relentless, it will be very hard for Marayas to live with him in the later rounds. Is that how he sees it? He feels as though he can make him wither over the first three rounds and potentially finish him in the championship rounds? How you actually can't, that's going to go with his boy with Maraisam? He, he's a very big, a very, a very badist for division. He sees this boy like that you
Starting point is 01:03:12 will dovive his first three rounds and you'll you'll be in the champion's in the fourth and fifth round. How do you
Starting point is 01:03:21 imagine that boy? I've seen it I don't say he's more me. I know that as a boyce
Starting point is 01:03:29 I'm differenternerner and more I believe I've got my I'm I'm like
Starting point is 01:03:35 always will do with with the legs, with legs, with, lach, with, with my eyes, and I'll show a realichny boy and
Starting point is 01:03:43 I'll really deserve a boy for a poise. I saw my eyes in person. I cannot say he's bigger than me or something else.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I will do like I always do. I will put pressure on him. I will throw punches, elbows, knees, kicks and I will take his head out.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Just a final question and thank you so much, Piotr and to you, Siyyat, you're always a legend for these things, I must say. Does he feel as though Marais is a tougher fight than Suhudo at the moment? If he could pick without the title, without everything, he's just looking at an opponent. Does he think Marais is a harder fight than Sehudo or Sehudo a harder fight than Marais? How do you think, what's the opponent is more than Sehudo? Every, in, in a way, are difficult, and in every
Starting point is 01:04:38 case, it's top boys, yeah. Each of them are in their is, in their is a very of course, but I always
Starting point is 01:04:46 always got to every battle to each other are top fighters, and everyone, each one of them is dangerous
Starting point is 01:04:58 in its own way, and for each fight I prepare as it's my last fight, so I'm getting ready
Starting point is 01:05:06 no matter what. Thank you so much, Piotr and Soyat. It is a pleasure to speak to you guys again. I cannot wait for June 13th. It's going to be amazing. I hope I can get over there to see it because I've been dying to see Piotr compete in the Octagon. And thank you guys so much again for coming on the show.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Yes, thank you for having us. All the best of it. Thank you, Piotr. Bye-bye. Always a pleasure to speak to the Siberian gangster. Didn't threaten my life this time, and I appreciate that very much. sleep safely for the next week at least.
Starting point is 01:05:39 But yeah, looking forward to that fight with Moray's. I think it's going to be a huge, it's a huge star making one for him as well when you think about the proximity, Kazakhstan to Russia. I feel like he's going to be like the hometown guy. As you were talking to Till about Dublin earlier, that kind of thing. I see it in a very similar way. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Yeah, definitely. And it's a fight for him. He wins it. It's a world title shot. Absolutely. This Saturday night, though, at UFC, Brasilia, we've got a few Europeans in action about Kevin Lee and Charles Oliver at the top of that card. And you can't wait for it, can't you? I love it. Love watching both those guys.
Starting point is 01:06:09 They're two my favorite guys to watch in the UFC's lie weight division. You know, Charles always brings it. We know he's been around for years and he's fought everyone, the who's who of that lieweight division. And Kevin Lee has just been so impressive over the last few months. Rejuvenating himself,
Starting point is 01:06:24 obviously, with that win over Gregor Gillespie, which was absolutely my knockout of the year last year. I'm going for Charles Oliver on this one, Will. Listen, I wouldn't sped against it. never rule out Charles, but I just think Kevin's, I was so impressed with how he's changed that mindset the last time out. I mentioned that he's just become cool,
Starting point is 01:06:44 calm, collective. That Gillespie knockout was absolutely outrageous. And he's taken away, I think, that aggression and whatever he's done, he's re-challenged into a more cool, Kevin Lee. And a cool, calm, collected, Kevin Lee is a bad motherfucker, and I just can't see Kevin not
Starting point is 01:06:59 winning this fight, but I think it's going to be an absolute barrenstormer. We could have a bit of a changing of the guards in the common event of terms of who is the great grappler. Gilbert Mellon, Gilbert Burns even, one of the great grapplers in this sport, obviously against Damien Moya, a guy who's considered the greatest, especially coming off that Ascran win. But I just feel as though, when I look at this fight, Burns is a lot more to offer in the feet, I feel, than Maya. So I feel like when you have two grapplers deadlocked like that, it comes
Starting point is 01:07:26 down to a different skill set, and I feel like he's got the strongest one. Yeah, no, yeah, I can see that, but I think Gilbert's, um, um, Demi and Maya has really sort of improved over the last number of fights that we've seen him. You know, he's flashed the jab. His job's got a lot more flusher. So I just think his experience could be the difference here. And I know both guys are vastly experienced. But no, I think it's one of those fights a flip of a coin, really, it is, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Absolutely. Moikano, you'd favour him against Hazovich. But Hazovich is a Siberian gangster himself. Sorry, not Serbian. Serbian gangster. Or is he Bosnian? Bosnian, I think. Sorry, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:03 He's an absolute savage, though. And he's been fighting and he's been training a bit in renegative. and stuff and the stories I'm hearing is he's an absolute animal in there. The guys love him. And this could be a huge fight for him. Mokano coming up from Fetterweight but look, the way Mokano was looking at Fetterweight, it's hard to kind of look past him at times. I think he's
Starting point is 01:08:20 an absolute animal. But that's a big fight for Europe there, but always risky enough going to fighting a Brazilian on the horizon. Definitely. Mokano is a savage though. He's absolutely excellent. I've been super impressed. I'm obviously the Aldo and Chan Sung-jong fights haven't gone his way, but
Starting point is 01:08:36 if we look at those fights against you know calvin kattar and cubs swanson it just hasn't sort of gone his way and maybe you know maybe maybe he's due something here and i think we're going to get it croiloff against walker i feel like croiloff is a lot more technical than walker um yeah i think and after the corey anderson fight where he just kind of used straight shots and didn't kind of wasn't intimidated by the wild man approach from walker i feel like that's nearly given a lot of people a blueprint in some ways you know yeah definitely I totally agree and I think Walker, he was just so messy
Starting point is 01:09:09 so all over the place in that fight against Corey Anderson and I think, you know, Kroylov's going to go in there and look for positions and I think he's going to find positions that maybe Johnny isn't so technically good on and take advantage. I could see Krilov getting a submission or something like that here, I'll just have that feeling in this fight. Rush's Alexei Kinchenko
Starting point is 01:09:27 was a tough one on his hands here with Zaliski de Santos, man. That's a tough one to get back in the win, call him against, man. I felt like Zaliski was on a wild streak for a world there. And then, you know, that's a very tough a son for Alexi Conchenco as far as
Starting point is 01:09:40 I'm concerned. You have Marina Morrow again against Buenos Silva. Did she fight every week? Does she fight? Does not feel like that? Felix is always popping up
Starting point is 01:09:49 with these cards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. We got a Czech Republic's David Vorak who takes on Bruno Silva on the preliminary card as well. And Baimilecki
Starting point is 01:09:57 looking to make it 2 and O when she takes on Veronica Mikado. Decent card. It might be an L next day at what for me to be honest yeah no I agree
Starting point is 01:10:07 especially after the last put more Europeans on there if you want my interest yeah no just in fairness that the last couple of weeks have been pretty taxing on the old the old body and schlap
Starting point is 01:10:17 so yeah I might agree with you there but if it's on at a reasonable hour and I might sneak up and watch Kevin Lee and Oliver because I really do like that fight I have to say I just don't think I'm going to have the time after staying up on Friday night
Starting point is 01:10:29 to watch Pedro Garval be pit bull my God and Daniel Vitchel v. Emmanuel Sanchez and and Paul Daly v. Sabah Hamasi. A lot of European interest here. As you said,
Starting point is 01:10:40 talkoff as well there against Fabio Aguirre. Nick Newell's fighting. But there's a lot of European interests on the card is what I was trying to say. Like, I mean, there is. Oyan Pescu as well
Starting point is 01:10:51 early on the night against Mark Leminger. Talk of, the two of them. The two talk-offs. Yeah. So it's, yeah, I know what it's, it's interesting. And obviously Pedro from, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:01 our point of view and, you know, trains here in Dublin with SBG. We're going to be hearing from Pedro later. Like, I mean, and look, on paper, I don't think you can look past pit bull in this, but Carvalho has given a great account of himself,
Starting point is 01:11:13 hasn't he? Like, he's making me believe every time I speak to him, every time I hear from him, he's not bullshitting and everything he's saying. Like, he absolutely believes everything he's saying, and that's dangerous.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Sometimes you don't believe, guys, and it's just kind of entertaining what they're saying, but I don't get that voice off him. He's one of those sort of straight, straight shooters. This is going to happen. This, this. It's even the way he uses his grammar. and uses his words.
Starting point is 01:11:38 And he stops us when we're like, well, if it does, he's like, no, no, no. It is going to happen. It's just like 100%. So, you know, he's on a water. It's five, six, five, wind street. That, you know, Derek Campos fight Sam Cecilia, looks super, super impressive to get into this position
Starting point is 01:11:52 against Pitbull for this world title. Quarter final bout as well and the larger scale of things in the Grand Prix. It's just exciting. It really is. And I think Portugal or Brazil as well, there's so many little facets in there. A lot of fans getting flame in that section there
Starting point is 01:12:04 with Patricia. and Pedro. As you said, you've a piece coming out of him later on this week as well. He's going to be on the show.
Starting point is 01:12:11 There's just, there seems to be a lot of fucking personal shit here going on. I feel like people's trying to get in his head talking this stuff about Portugal because they're both getting it
Starting point is 01:12:19 the same way. Pedro's getting out to the Brazilian fans. He's getting out to Portuguese. That's what it's all about. Of course. That's when you know they're invested.
Starting point is 01:12:25 But Paul Daly as well on the card against Saba Hamasi. You know, this fight, I just, like, I feel like there's so many
Starting point is 01:12:34 more interesting fights you can make with daily. Yeah. I'm not jumping up and down to see that. I expect him to win it, of course. But, yeah, I just, I don't really get that one, to be quite honest. As we said...
Starting point is 01:12:46 I don't have to have used daily too well recently, Vallator. Yeah, and I feel like they probably put a bad taste in his mouth by taking them off them commentary duty, because I thought he was quite good at that, to be honest, you know? So, I didn't mind him at all, being honest. So, listen, I don't know, you know, Paul, sometimes maybe from his previous history, hasn't been the easiest guy to deal with in times. we don't know what goes on. He's meant to be on Eurobache a few times.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Yeah, well, there you go. I was never on Eurobash. There you go. So that's what happens. So, you know, listen, fuck it. Yes, yes. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. I really can't wait for the main event, though, man.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Who do you prefer? Like, I feel like we ask Pedro about it. You'll hear the interview now in a minute. I do agree with him. I like the Emmanuel Sanchez for him, fight for him a bit more in the semi-final that they do, Vichel, just because of two prospects going at it. Or even Patricio v.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Emmanuel Sanchez. I prefer that a lot more. But what way do you see this going? Do you feel as though people can exchange with Pedro or do you feel like it's going to be a more working man-like performance? He has to take him to the ground because it seems like Pedro's body kick and the sharp punches he's running on people. I really, really having big impact. He was so impressive on the feet and I don't think you know, Patricio is going to want to play to his strengths here and not engage with Carvalho on the feet when he is so good on the ground. It's a no-brainer
Starting point is 01:14:02 to try and take him down and submit him. for obviously Pedro's to stay in his feet and use those kicks, get flowy, as Artem says. And that's his key to victory. It's no secret here. And I think both guys are going to play to their strength. It's a big one for SBG, isn't it? I feel it is.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Like, I mean, you know. It's been a long while since there's been any world titles. Outside of Connor, of course. Yeah. So it is huge. And it's huge for everyone in the gym because, you know, if you've a guy there and he's winning the world. Like, imagine the boost that will give the gym if he wins a world title.
Starting point is 01:14:33 it's not just that guy you know that's that's the casual take on SPG it's not just they're all oh you it wasn't for Connor blah blah blah so I do feel like it's a very big fight for them but it's been a long long time you know this is like you've uttered
Starting point is 01:14:48 James in Ireland who've had world champions and other promotions in that time and have we really from SBG no so it is it's a big big moment and listen best best wish is to to both guys because it's going to be a good fight but I think it's got to be a great fight I just think I love that that bell
Starting point is 01:15:03 to our featherweight setup, I think, you know, you look at even Whiteshell and Emmanuel Sanchez, like two vets of the game and you look, obviously we hope A.J. McKee's knee isn't as bad as... Pedro Carvalho certainly hopes. Yeah, well, look, we all hope because he's such a good fighter. He's one of the best feather weights in the world. That division, that tournament is just,
Starting point is 01:15:24 it's the best thing Bellator have in their locker, in my opinion, by a long stretch. And I'm excited to see what division they do in next week. It is a genuinely intriguing thing. But it's just the numbers they have. there every fight nearly on that probably in these quarterfinals are left. They're very, very close fights.
Starting point is 01:15:39 They're very hard fights to pick. And I think that's where people have maybe got disinterested in other divisions in Bellator and we haven't seen this kind of narrative that, you know, Pedro and Pitbull are putting on and people are getting really interested in it. It's just great to see. It really is.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Well, without further ado, let's go to our interview now with Pedro Carvalho. I don't know if it's late Bellator. No, looks he said something nice there. but let's go to our interview of Pedro Carvalo, a man who has become a very, very interesting figure on this European scene, a guy who's bowled over even with my American colleagues when they saw him at the press conference over there. He'll be at the New York press conference, which will have happened already, but a time this podcast comes out. But always great to speak to him, and I'm really looking forward to the fight this weekend. I can say no more. So here's Pedro Caballo. And now we are joined by Pedro Carvalio, who will look to claim another title for Europe. this weekend when he takes on Patricio Pitbull in a very, very anticipated bout. There is bad blood. There is a lot being said between the two.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Pedro, how are you feeling ahead of this fight this weekend? So, Pizzi, I feel great, you know? Like I've been saying, that's the thing that I've been said more this week. I'm great. One day, closer to become world champion. So each day I feel even better. You know, it's amazing to me when I think about your whole career, though, Pedro. You know, you've come over to Dublin, maybe one of the lesser known guys who was signed to Bellator first of all,
Starting point is 01:17:08 and then you've gone on this incredible run, and now you're on the verge of getting that gold strap. I mean, has this been an emotional journey for you? Because it seems like you've become, you've gone from something, you've gone from nothing to something huge, a contender in the Bellator featherweight division. Does that journey, you know, what does that mean to you personally? I mean personally, very personally, I just, the only feeling a thought that I have about my career so far, my Belator career so far is deserved. You know, I just deserve this, you know, I've been sacrificed my whole life for this. I've given up of being a normal kid, so I could be what I am today.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I sacrifice to be close to my family to be what I am today. I sacrifice be with my son on his first 18 months of life. You know, to be what I am, so I can give him a future that I never dreamed to have. You know, so this is just, for me, it's just a little treat from comparing from the sacrifice that I've been put through, you know. So that's the only feeling that I have about all this, you know, and I'm not going to kind of shine. Because of this, this is not, I work for way more than this, you know. This is only a little tree, you know, this is, this for me, this is just another day in the office. This is just another guy that everyone thinks they're going to beat me and I go out there,
Starting point is 01:18:39 I'm going to dominate him and finish him. That's it, you know, like, this is just another day in the office for me. I'm the underdog, I'm the huge underdog, and I go out there and I do what I do best, that is fight and beat guys, you know, so I'm just happy and I truly feel that this is just a little street compared to for what I've been sacrificed all this time. That's amazing. And it seems there's a lot between you two guys.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Like I feel like, you know, even if of course we all know you in Europe, but I feel like the Americans have been very attracted to the way that you've built this fight. You've put your finger right in this guy's chest. We have a feature coming out later this week on MMAFighting.com where you and Pitbull
Starting point is 01:19:21 ask each other five questions. And I won't get into what you guys said, but it was very clear when we were gathering the answers and questions that you know this is very personal between you does that help you does that help help to motivate you ahead of a fight when you don't necessarily like the guy too much pizzi i'm going to be honest this i'm i'm cold blood in the end this thing you know i i don't care everything that is said everything that we go back and forth in social media for me it's just fun you know i don't know how it takes if he's taking that very personally i i just been
Starting point is 01:19:56 team that he's showing some weaknesses, you know, psychologically, because he's taking this, like, way to personal, but, hey, is this personal way to take things? I don't care, you know. I just want him to show up. I'll show up. I'll be there. And I'll bring the, I'll bring the scrap, you know. So that's the only thing that matters to me. I don't care if he says, he says that if he tried to play the hero and try to make me look like the bad guy in this story. I don't care about all that, you know. For me, that's all kind of soap opera things, you know. I don't care about that.
Starting point is 01:20:36 You can do whatever you want. If you want to be an actor or something, go ahead, you know. But the only thing that I'm focused on is beat his ass, you know, and prove everyone wrong. You know, that's what excite me the most and what gives me really happy, you know. Happiness is having this chance of just shut everyone's mouth. it would be huge for you right like i mean if you claim the title here and then go through to the it's going to be huge it's going to be huge but when this happens if this goes according to plan
Starting point is 01:21:07 you know you have won the belt off a guy who's considered the greatest fighter um on the bellator roster like how much confidence would that give you going into the semis and then the final like i mean it would be huge right no it would be just another day in the office yeah like like i like i said before when I say that I believe that I'm the best in the world, I'm not saying this because it sounds nice to the camera. This is what I believe since they won, since my 13 years old, that I will be what I am. I say to everyone, even with no examples in Portugal, of a guy in the high level of the sport, with one example, you know, everyone's told to me, Pedro, you never had even a Portuguese man close to that, you know, and I just said I'll be there. And I am here, you know.
Starting point is 01:21:52 I don't like to say that I'm not wrong, you know, but everything that I said, I did it, you know, and I didn't, not because I predict or this or there, because not only I believe, I know myself, I work my ass every single day, you know, so beat Patricia Pitbull is just, you know, won't be a surprise for me because I know what I'm capable of. And if I believe, like, if a guy true believes that is the best in the world, like, why I should be extra confident to beat them, you know. In my head, that's my obligation. Go outside and beat them, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:30 and then go and beat the other and beat the other and beat every single one they put in front of me. You know, beat guys doesn't bring me confidence. Just gives me more certain than what I'm saying is true, you know. The rest is rest, but no, beat Patricia Pitball won't give me extra confidence. Of course, it's going to give me. Happiness, of course, because having Patricio's name in my trophy list, it's something very nice. Like I said, it's probably even at this stage, probably even better than winning the belt. But, you know, it's just another day in the office in the end.
Starting point is 01:23:11 You know, one thing I've always noticed about you, you're always chasing the hardest assignment you can get. You always want the toughest fight. You want to fight the guys who are considered the best in that division. and one thing we've noticed is AJ McKee might be his position in the tournament might be jeopardized because of a knee injury. Is that upsetting for you knowing that you wanted to fight him?
Starting point is 01:23:30 You wanted to go in and prove that you're better than this guy? Or is that far from your memory? I mean, far from your mind at the moment as you prepare for Patricio. No, yeah, I really knew and straight away, like I can tell that, straight away, I was pissed off. I was pissed off.
Starting point is 01:23:48 I'm pissed off because it's not officially yet, But, yeah, I'm a bit pissed off because, first, I don't desire bad to anyone, you know, like, in the end of the day, we are human beings. And I don't wish bad things to anyone, you know, it doesn't matter who he is. And, yeah, like, I want, you know, I mean, he can fight. I can even, he can even lose with casual, you know what I mean? But, yeah, but I want it really bad to get him, like, like, he will be. that my pick, you know. I was waiting for the December slot because no one was picking him and I was like,
Starting point is 01:24:25 yeah, this is it. I'm going to get my chance to put my hands on him and then Campos went in front of me. But yeah, I hope, I hope everything goes well for him. He keeps on a tournament and I'll meet him in a final. Hopefully that's what I'm up. But like I've said, like you can have hand on this. The same thing as on the other semi-final, on the other quarter final. fight between Sanchez and Vaisal, you know.
Starting point is 01:24:54 For me, if I could pick, I would pick Emmanuel Sanchez because he's one of the favorites, he's one of the top containers. Everyone says, this about them, this is about that. And if I could choose, there would be the guy that I would choose semifinals only because of that. But, you know, you cannot control that things, you know, for the end of the day, I just want someone there so I can beat so I can go on and win this old thing, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:20 but we cannot choose these things. We talked about what this means for you, but what does it mean for SBG? This is a first world title fight in a long time that doesn't have Conner's name attached to it. I mean, do you feel like the gym is getting behind you? I have to say, I heard great things about you just months into your career with SBG
Starting point is 01:25:40 and from the biggest names in the gym, like Peter Quili, Artim Loboff, singing your praises, singing your work ethic. Do you feel like this is having an effect on the gym as well? Do you feel them getting behind it? you? 100% that the that was one of the things that
Starting point is 01:25:55 they made so easy to move to Ireland and though like from the very first day that I moved to Ireland I felt I felt like an Irish man because I was so well received so like supported and treated you know and like I never felt
Starting point is 01:26:12 that I was outside of my home I just felt in a home all all the time you know and it's been It's been like there since they won. It's like not because I'm now fighting for a belt that I feel I have more support. The support is the same.
Starting point is 01:26:28 And it's been absolutely fantastic to see, you know. Of course, this time people are trying to give their best to give me like, you know, some extra energy to bring to this fight, you know, because they want this also as me. And it's been amazing like this camp to see everyone so involved. you know, so attached to this like I am. And, yeah, like I've been so many times, we are not a team. We are a big family, you know. We take care of each other's.
Starting point is 01:27:02 We got each other's back and be able to not only write my name in the history team, being able to bring such an achievement to the team, you know, and help build a little bit more the team's name. It's just a blessing for me, you know. It's truly a blessing, you know. Like, I am what I am because of these guys. I am what I am because of the team. And be able to retrieve with a war belt is, I think it's just, you know, a blessing for me.
Starting point is 01:27:35 We know that Connor sometimes gives his teammates a bit of last minute an encouragement. Have you talked to him at all? Has he corresponded anything with you ahead of this title fight? I know it will mean a lot to him as well, seeing a guy like you from his gym. going in and fighting Patricio. Yeah, like, we, we talk more like on the beginning of, on the midway, my camp, there was when he was getting ready for Sarone, you know. He was more around the gym.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Like, after the Soron fight, he's been in the dream, in the gym, but we never crossed pads, you know, so we never had the chance to talk. But, yeah, but like last time, for example, against Cecilia, we had a chance. But yeah, like, like I know I know he's behind. Like, for example, on the end of the, of the sub-silife fight, he gave a call, which was like a half-five in Dublin, you know. So, yeah, like I said, we are a big, we are a big family in SBG. We support each other. We are behind each other.
Starting point is 01:28:44 And like I said, we are not, we are not team members or teammates. We are families. We are brothers and sisters that are taking care of the family and the wealth of the family. That's it. You know, Pedro, the one thing I've noticed from talking to you ahead of this fight is that you feel like if this guy stands with you, he's going to be in big, big trouble. I know that you feel like you're one of the most elite strikers in Bellator at the moment. But just give us your perception here. What happens if Patricio comes out and he does try to exchange you?
Starting point is 01:29:15 He does try to go punch for a punch with Pedro Carvalio. What happens then? Then we'll see, you will see what's going to happen. You know what I mean? Like, hey, I'm like, I don't like to say, when I, when I speak about my skill set, I don't like to speak about my striking or this or because I'm resumed myself as one thing. Like, I'm an MMA fighter. I can finish this fight wherever this fight goes on, you know.
Starting point is 01:29:44 And if he tried to take me down, there was. would be no problem. I'm good with my back on the mat, on top, against the cage. Doesn't matter, you know. But, yeah, like, I'm counting. I'm counting that he is going to try to stand up with me, you know. But I'm also aware that it's smart. It's not stupid.
Starting point is 01:30:08 It doesn't take risks. But, who knows? If you take risks, I'm going to like it. I'm going to like very much. But, yeah. We are ready for everything. Doesn't matter the outcome that he'll try to bring. Every corner is covered, well covered,
Starting point is 01:30:26 and we are ready to everything. And in the end, we have all the solutions to implant our game plan, and everything goes, as I've been said. You mentioned your son and missing out on a lot of the first 18 months of his life because of your training and your fight career. are you conscious that this moment will be something he'll look back on
Starting point is 01:30:51 and you'll be able to explain to him the sacrifices you made to get to this position when he's older maybe 10 years from now are you conscious of that that this will be a moment that he'll ask you to tell him about probably for the end of time if everything goes the way you plan to even if it doesn't the fact that you've you've climbed this mountain so quickly in his younger years where he's just coming into the world. Do you realize how much that will mean to him later on in his life? I know. I know that there will be like big thing. At the same time, I don't think about that too much because I don't want my son to have his own thing. I don't want my son to be
Starting point is 01:31:34 like the Pedro Carvalu's son. You know what I mean? I want him to be Benjamin Carvali. That's it. He will have his own thing, whatever he decides to be and go forward. And I don't want, I don't, I don't, I never really think about that, like, I just think about the opportunities that I can give to him, the life that I can give to him. And that's what matters to me, you know. I, I, I don't intend to have my name attached to him, like a shadow or something, you know, because, you know, that's, that's never good. So I never really thought about it or really thought about it.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Of course, there will be a big thing, especially if he's no proud of what is that done, you know. But in the end of the day, what really means and is important to me is the life that I can, you know, give to him, the best life that I can possibly give it to him. That's what matters really to me. Oh, I guarantee he's going to be very proud of you, Pedro. Absolutely. No doubt about it. I got one more question. It's a bit of a cliche, but I got to ask. What is your prediction for this fight? When you think about it, when you're at home, when you're thinking about how this fight goes down, what way does it finish for you? Since this fight is scheduled, I've been said, like, I even have a note, but that note I will show after the fight.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Oh, come on, don't tease us, Pedro. Don't tease us. No, no, I'm going to tell. I'm going to tell. I'm going to knock Patricia out. That's, that's for you. sure. But the way you will see. You will see how I'm going to finish it. But it doesn't matter like I say that I'm, I feel, I truly feel from the very first moment that I'm going to knock him out.
Starting point is 01:33:19 But at the same time, I'm not going there to looking for a knockout. You know, I'm a mixed martial arts. I can finish the fight anywhere. And I like to go in there with my head like a blanket paper, you know. I'm just going to
Starting point is 01:33:35 slowly second by second minute by minute I'm going to write the history of the fight and and we'll say and the finish will appear if he's on on the ground or standing up and if it doesn't appear it doesn't matter I'm going to get the job done in the end and that's what matters to me well so what do you do you have a technique written down here on this piece of paper and around no no no it's not a fancy no it's not a technique it's not about a technique it's just like it's just something that I I see happen, you know. It doesn't mean that it's going to happen, but I truly believe that it might happen, you know, but like I said, like, I don't like to get stick with thoughts of something
Starting point is 01:34:19 because then you're going to limit yourself to that thing, you know. But yeah, I'm seeing myself knocking Patricia out. Pedro, I'm very intrigued by all of this, and I can't thank you enough for getting on speaking to us today. Best to look at the press conference later on, and I cannot wait for this fight this weekend. We're all rooting for you here in Europe. Thank you very much, Pizzi. I appreciate the time and, yeah, I'll give Europe one more bell. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Good man, Pedro. Thank you so much, sir. Well, there we have a Pedro Carvalio. What a man. A very inspirational man, I will say. And it's hard not to get behind him when you hear what he's put himself true to get himself into this situation.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Incredibly driven dude. I don't sense an even, an ounce of bullshit off that guy. There's no doubt. He's no doubt in his mind about anything that he's going to do. And he's very decisive in what he says as we were talking about earlier on, on what he wants to do. And as you said there,
Starting point is 01:35:16 I do, I think, you know, he talked about his son. Just a very likable guy. A really, really likable guy and it's hard not to root for him. Yeah. You know, look, he's team Europe. What you want me to say? Yeah. I can't say it, but you know what I mean? Yeah. But it is, you get, listen, you get people like,
Starting point is 01:35:34 that and um it is uh it's an intriguing battle and i think if you're going to write them off you're a very very silly person because listen you could you could go out there and do this on friday night the new york stock exchange yeah this is very worrying just crashed um jesus while we're on air here does that not mean i'm not getting paid now tomorrow does this impact me that's all i want to know fuck i spent my last fucking few quaint on a on a vegetarian pizza last night i'm not even joking hang on a second i've literally 12 year old in my bank count. I'm not even joking. Tell the people when's the last time you had red meat.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Two weeks ago. Two weeks ago tomorrow. Yeah. Or any kind of meat, is it? Yeah, nothing. I've had nothing. Even white meat. Nothing. Jesus. Yeah, like, for someone who eats a lot of red meat, like it's... Did Joaquin Phoenix's speech have a big impact on you at the Oscars? No, it didn't
Starting point is 01:36:24 fucking, fuck. No, it didn't. I just fucking, I don't know. I think just when the coronavirus stuff started hitting up, I was like, oh, I'll just maybe lay off the meat. I'm getting a bit fat. I've almost sort of looked at I watched that James Wilkes did, yeah. And I said, just be interesting to see if you did a little bit more
Starting point is 01:36:42 energy and stuff like that because I did. Man, I used to eat like bloody a lot of red meat. Like I'd be eating three, four times a week probably. Steaks, you know, rib roasts, all that sort of shit. So I've actually, I've noticed, my gut is not as bloated as it normally would be. So you think you're going to stick with it?
Starting point is 01:37:00 What's the plan? Like, I mean, is it the... There's no real plan. I'm just said, fuck it. I'll just you know, just trying to, yeah, maybe eat a little a bit healthier because I've put on
Starting point is 01:37:08 a lot of weight in the last couple of years and I think you're gorgeous. I think I am too and you know, and I got out of Elaine's friends took interest there and I'll pick
Starting point is 01:37:15 I put up the other day didn't me? Huck a brother up, do you know what I mean? Like so, um, yeah, listen,
Starting point is 01:37:21 I just need to start getting healthier. I don't know. I don't want you to die either or no. Yeah, some people do, but,
Starting point is 01:37:27 well, not everyone, but there's no need to talk about Neil Ciri like that. He's a little welcher, Oh, stop.
Starting point is 01:37:35 But, now listen, that is worrying the New York stuff. Holy shit. Like, it's obviously
Starting point is 01:37:38 a direct knock on of, I'd imagine, of what's going on in terms of the coronavirus and it's just mental shit. Fuck me. We'll still be here in London.
Starting point is 01:37:48 They're not going to, not going to take this away from me. The one of the biggest weekends in European M. They cannot do this to me. Man, I wouldn't be holding your breath for that. Card.
Starting point is 01:37:57 So what was going on? How was your wedding? Discuss. It was fantastic. It was a lot of late nights or our beautiful suit. I felt fantastic. Is Elaine better?
Starting point is 01:38:08 Elaine, Elaine was meant to be on antibiotics, but somehow ended up on the sauce. She did. But I was just saying, I'm having nothing to do with this. What did I say to? You were going to, oh, you're going to say to the lane sickly. We can't drink. I'm not drinking. I said, shut the fuck up, pizza. You're going to be drinking. Not a hope you're not at a way.
Starting point is 01:38:23 I was drinking. Yeah, as soon as I woke up that day. I polyd off your sake as well. Oh, did you? Yeah. It's all gone. Not a fucking drop. There's red meat in there. Oh, sure. Oh man. Rocket fuel. Petrol.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Great stuff. It's me the low, low energy this week. It's me because of this, this wedding. Shit happens, man. Listen, we can't,
Starting point is 01:38:44 like, it's tough. It's tough. Too much sport on it the weekends. We've weddings, the odd time we have to go to, we just have to accept it.
Starting point is 01:38:52 It's part of the fucking game, man. It's part of the process. Oh, fantastic time with the wedding, though. Did we show up on Monday? Did we show up today? Did we get it done?
Starting point is 01:38:58 Did we get over the line? We fucking did. So, fuck is all. The goats. Fuck is all. well look they're such lovely people you know you look like
Starting point is 01:39:08 you look like the fucking grim reaper there with the hood up I'm in bits I'm fading rapidly I'm just going in between thinking oh yeah I'm full of beans to shh it was up at 3 a.m. this morning
Starting point is 01:39:18 because my body clock is so fucked from that way I'm just even two hours just in general my body clock is fucked it's like yeah two three hours like Monday Tuesday last week
Starting point is 01:39:27 I think it was three hours between the two of the mental stuff well well look let's look ahead to the weekend and you know City.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Yes, let's look ahead to the weekend. Perhaps another European champion crowned. Wouldn't that be fantastic? A lot of things going down, a lot of moving pieces. We're going to be back next week with another fantastic guest list, no doubt about it. For your 74th episode of Eurobash, your audio broccoli, don't show it to any casuals. They're constantly trying to break through the walls and become diehards like us. Don't let them listen.
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