MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 75 (w/ Colby Covington, Paddy Pimblett, Mason Jones, Joanna Jedrzejczyk)

Episode Date: March 24, 2020

On this week's episode of Eurobash, Colby Covington (14:00) pops by to give his thoughts on the welterweight title picture following his near meeting with Tyron Woodley. Paddy Pimblett (1:02:00) expla...ins how good it feels to return to the win column. Mason Jones (1:32:00) discusses what it felt like becoming a champion at a behind-closed-doors event. Also featured, legendary European Joanna Jedrzejczyk (1:57:00) calls in to discuss her all-time classic with Weili Zhang.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:21 Welcome back to Eurobash, episode 75 this time. We have Colby Covington, Patty Pimlet, and the newly crowned Cage Warriors, lightweight champion Mason Jones, stopping boy. There has been a huge shift in how this sport is being covered, how it's being participated in with the growing concerns surrounding coronavours. But we are here as always, and we will be here as always every week as we get through this together.
Starting point is 00:00:52 And of course, I'm joined by the beautiful Noel McGrath, who is in quarantine over there on the south side. How are you, Noel? I'm good, man. I'm just a little bit frustrated, but I've plenty of stuff to keep my mind occupied at the moment. So I'm working on a few new projects, as I sort of filled you in about,
Starting point is 00:01:10 but we'll keep that for a later date to reveal all. But yeah, I'm busy. I'm busy, which is good, I suppose, but very frustrated, yet the same that I can't get out to my, beloved local for a point of Guinness because they're all shut here but listen I think everyone's health is the main priority at the moment and stay in do it for a few weeks and hopefully this shit will blow over you know yeah it's scary times um obviously europe now the epicenter of the coronavirus
Starting point is 00:01:37 pandemic and really frightening things coming out from italy and Spain now so we wish all of our friends in those parts of the world um all the love and hopefully they uh get through it and It's going to be a very, very turbulent time for us all, I feel, in the next world. But look, the beat goes on in MMA. Cage Warriors went ahead last Friday in Manchester. Unbelievable. What scenes? Never saw an event like it in my life.
Starting point is 00:02:08 We'll talk about that more later. We'll talk about the fallout from UFC London. And we'll talk about Dana White calling us the wimpiest and the weakest people in the world. a lot of accusations being thrown around Noel. Yeah, just weird. It's just typical Dana White. I think he's so frustrated at this point. He's just blaming the media like he always does.
Starting point is 00:02:29 So this night took with a pinch of salt, but stupid comments all the same. I'm sure the people in Italy wouldn't be feeling the same about what he said in those comments. So listen, that's just Dana for you. I just think we'll have to move on and forget about what he said. Apart from when we talk about it later on the show. Well, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:02:45 let's hit up some headlines there's not many it's going to be a lot shorter this week than usual so here we go mason jones i'll tell you again mason jones is the new cage warriors warrior's lightweight champion merbach toisimov and calid mordazeliof have been cut from the ufc i don't think i got that guy's name wrong right even several fighters report lack of payment from ufc london and actually evans smit on the a side area this week's speaking a lot about that you can check that out on YouTube and New York have officially nixed UFC 249 which was due to happen in Brooklyn in April and that's pretty much all
Starting point is 00:03:27 the news there but Nile what do you feel about this UFC London situation more and more fighters have been coming forward and saying they haven't been paid and we hear from Jack Shore last week who said he was confident and that they would get paid the week, the day after we spoke to Ashley Evan Smith on the A side and I said, Ashley, Jack Shore is quite confident that you guys would get paid and she said, what makes you so confident that we get paid? You know, I think it's disgraceful in light of the situation in light of a billion dollar company like the UFC and in light of what Bellator have done in terms of paying their
Starting point is 00:04:07 fighters and canceling events. The UFC's reaction seems a bit far behind. Ed, do you believe that we need to give them maybe a bit of leeway here, given the situation, or should this be started out already? I think the annoying thing for me, Pizzi, is the fact they haven't disclosed any information on the situation to the media or made a statement. That's the really frustrating thing for me. And obviously, you know, more so, obviously, the fighters who are really in limbo over this situation.
Starting point is 00:04:37 That says to me that there's obviously other things going on in the background. And I know it does actually take a couple of weeks normally to get the fighters pay. after the fights. So maybe in light of the situation we'll give them until probably the end of this week to come out with a statement and see what is going on with that situation in London. But yeah, it's just strange
Starting point is 00:05:00 that they haven't said anything at all about it. It's as if there was never even a schedule card for London. It's pretty mental the way Dana's handled this situation. Yeah, I mean, like at least just tell the people. Even if you're not going to put in their wallets, just say, hey, it's coming. Don't worry, we're going to, we have you guys on this. And again, like, I don't know if you've read this, but Damon Martin had an article
Starting point is 00:05:21 out there last week. Its headline is you guys should check it out there because this is quite interesting in this happening. Endeavour UFC and Bellator Parenthood company face financial pressure due to high depth during coronavirus outbreak. It's just interesting when something like this comes out. They have been named as a company that's not in good credit, we'll say. in terms of loans and stuff and paying off debts.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Do you believe that that is factoring into White's pursuit of UFC 249, Habib and Tony will say more so than 19. That's the forefront of his wish list at the moment, I guess. Definitely. That's, you know, I've said this for God knows how long in the last two weeks I've emphasized my belief that Dana White is going to go ahead and try and make this fight happen at all costs because there's so many. in the market, obviously, that haven't been filled. And in terms of money, if Abe and Tony's going ahead, man, you're going to see every single fucking casual fight fan in the world tuning in
Starting point is 00:06:22 to buy that fight. That puts money in WME, I-M-G's pocket. It makes everyone happy there. So, yeah, you know, maybe that is a knock on effect that they're trying to get this over the line so badly. And Dana's white mind seems absolutely consumed with this fight. Like, we're talking about fucking,
Starting point is 00:06:38 you know, having this fight in a bloody oil rig rig, and there's loads of sort of stupid suggestions going around. I know. Some of them obviously just taking the piss, but there is some of their suggestions that, you know, it could be in Russia and things like that. Obviously, in May, I think we're not going to be looking at. Habib has gone to, gone back to Rush I saw there today.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It was reported. Okay, very interesting. But that's interesting in itself, I think. I don't think we're going to be looking at the scheduled date of April, the 11th, I believe it was. 18th, no? 18th, I beg a pardon. That doesn't look likely if it's going to be in Russia,
Starting point is 00:07:11 because I think Russia's borders are close to May, as far as I'm aware. Sedi Arabia has also been mentioned. But these guys, Dana White, in terms of money, this will be an absolute game changer for them. And maybe that is what he's so consumed. I think it is anyway,
Starting point is 00:07:27 because he hasn't stopped talking about this fight. We're going to put it on. We're going to put it on. We're going to put it on. And I think they will. I think they're going to get this over the line. Somehow. Somewhere. Even if it's just a two-in-fiting, you know, would that be that unprecedented? They actually just do that fight alone on a card?
Starting point is 00:07:43 I don't really know. Like, I mean, I, I'll talk about it more later on in terms of the Dana situation, but it's like, it just feels like it's completely ego driven at this point. Like it's him versus the media apparently. I don't, I don't know what the fuck. But it's just looking, it's just looking very bad, right? Like, I mean, the, the, the pay situation. And obviously what you're saying, like, the fact that that's the big, the big narrative coming from White is all about Habib and Tony staying on. Like, that's, uh, the four, at the four.
Starting point is 00:08:12 at the forefront of the world's thoughts as this pandemic eviscerates some sections of the world that this fight would mean so much, it seems a bit ridiculous at times. But the Leon Edwards thing now as well. Like obviously we haven't spoke to Leon yet. We will be speaking to Leon.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Damon Martin spoke to him for MMAFighting.com. He's also spoke to Ari Lohani and Adam Katrow for BT Sport. Some horrific revelations there with Leon. The quote here that appears on BT Sport from the interview
Starting point is 00:08:45 with Adam Catterill is, I had a phone call at 9 a.m. on Sunday saying the fight is off and you need to get to America today. Elite athletes, this is crazy. Like, I mean, we've talked about a lot since this came out. You know, Wayne Rooney,
Starting point is 00:08:59 kind of saying, I'm only happy to go back to play football when I know the fans are safe, and I know the players are safe. It seems like UFC have got that elite price tag on their company. There's been a lot of money been made, but the the fighters, the elite fighters, people, you know, in total conversations like Leon,
Starting point is 00:09:17 still aren't being treated with the respect of a professional athlete, really. Oh, yeah, massively, and I listened to that with Adam Catterill and was a disgrace. Like how they expect this guy to hop on a plane when in three hours have been told his fights fecking off in London and they want to move them over to the US is an absolute joke from the UFC's point of view. It's total lack of professionalism. But the one thing maybe I didn't allude to back there a couple of minutes ago, and where I was talking about Habi Ferguson. Like, the one thing I will say about Dana White is he must be under a considerable amount of pressure from, you know, ESPN,
Starting point is 00:09:51 because I know they have a certain amount of cards to fill a year. And that's obviously sort of with this unprecedented situation. I'm sure he was feeling that pressure, not knowing what, you know, the legal rights were in case of breach of contract and similar situations like that. But yes, it is no excuse from what happened with Leon Edwards. And I think, you know, Dana sort of picks and chooses which guys he's nice to, I think he realizes that Leon hasn't had that breakthrough opportunity yet in terms of having, you know, that fight card in his own country. That's obviously affected. I think maybe the way Dana approaches Leon and his attitude towards Leon and the way a lot of people's attitudes are towards Leon, as we'll hear a little bit later on as well.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So I don't know if that's on anything to play into it. But yeah, listen, it's a total lack of professionalism. And, you know, I don't really know what we can do about it, to be honest you. Like, we can just say it's a disgrace. But like, it's up to Dana White at the end of the day to iron out these matters. and they haven't been done as of yet. You know, we spoke about there. You hinted out there.
Starting point is 00:10:48 You know, the conversation has moved on in terms of who's fighting who here. Yeah, fantastic. With Dana Hoyt, obviously, Tyron Woodley, Covey Covington. And it seems like, you know, he is being pushed into that odd man out status again, Leon Edwards, which is a real pity, a real shame. Like, even the fantastic BT Sport promo that came out ahead of, what was going to be Woodley and Edwards. It was all about how Edwards had turned his life around through the sport
Starting point is 00:11:19 to be able to provide for his young family. And then to think, like, you know, he's been pushed out of this conversation, basically, because he was trying to protect his family. It's insane. But Colby Covington and Woodley, obviously, a lot of traction here. They tried to put that fight together.
Starting point is 00:11:38 It didn't happen. But Colby has appeared on every... show across the MMA sphere making his voice heard loud and clear and he gave Noel a doozy just days ago. We need to highlight
Starting point is 00:11:54 that this was before Dan Lambert introduced the Colby Covington rule I suppose we call it at ATT. Did you see that Noel? I did indeed, yeah. Basically Donna said there'll be no trash talk amongst his own fighters in the gym from here on out but it's a very
Starting point is 00:12:10 different circumstance. So it's like us. We like, we nearly have a black market Colby Covington interview here. With all, just the pre-agreement rules here in place. Very good stuff. Yeah, that's, you know, that's Colby's. He was very, to be honest, you know, sometimes you don't know when Colby's messing or not,
Starting point is 00:12:29 but he gets very, very angry in this. He starts shouting at one point. Mark Goddard, like, that certainly isn't water under the bridge anyway. Well, I think he might have said Mark Goddard's name 57 times during this interview. Also thought it was interesting. and you did your best to ask him this question, but just for people to listen out to it, obviously.
Starting point is 00:12:48 You are doing your best to highlight the similarities between pre-vocal Colby and Leon, as in two guys who are just winning, winning, looking for a way to cement their place as a title contender. And he didn't want to talk about that at all. I just thought that was very interesting. He did not want to,
Starting point is 00:13:11 he didn't want to come. of um shedding any light into his situation when he was coming up and he was in that position didn't want to share any common ground with Leon nearly you know definitely but that's you know that's a sign maybe he's a little bit threatened and he knows how good Leon is
Starting point is 00:13:26 as well so I just thought it was very interesting Colby Covington I think I think he is a big all pair of balls and I'm coming on the Eurobash and slighting the shit out of all Europeans really I mean Joanna got it in the neck and Mark Goddard a great ref gets his in the neck
Starting point is 00:13:41 Leon Edwards won't even talk about him Darren Hill, Bisping. He gets thrown under the bus. Bisping, Jesus. The English people in general. Yeah. It was Harry Carmay, you know, it reminded me of 31
Starting point is 00:13:54 them all pro wrestling things, you know, or whoever goes to, you know, I hate Cleveland. There was a bit of that, but there was certainly a bit of seriousness as well. I could feel that. You know, even speaking to him before
Starting point is 00:14:06 and after before he went on air, he's an angry man at the moment. Very, very angry. Like yourself, Noel. No. Right, well, look, let's get onto it. No point and keep on talking about it. This was a long one.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Strap yourselves in, feel the G's. It's Noel McGrae and Colby Covington. Delighted to welcome on Europe's premier MMA show, Eurobash and MMA Fighting.com. I think it's actually his debut on the Eurobash platform. It is the man. He's actually causing chaos living quite up to his nickname in the last week. It is Colby Covington.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Colby, how are you, my friend? Are you staying safe, first of all, and foremost in Florida? absolutely never been safer you know so i think this quarantine is uh is a good thing for me in the world and people need to learn to social distance and just visualize and focus and motivate themselves to do better things in life great words colby great words great words you're dead right it's it's getting serious i think and out of hand at the moment in some countries so it's uh it definitely people need to be more aware of what they're doing colby obviously there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:15:09 stuff going on. You've caused chaos since you popped your head back in on the cancellation of that UFC London card. You were scheduled to fight Tyram Woodley. What was that actually agreed? Were you going to throw down last Saturday with Tyrone Woodley? Oh, 110%.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I agree with the UFC. I was ready to go and Tyrone Woodley's a bitch. So it doesn't matter if I'm fighting him on six days notice or if I'm fighting on one day's notice. I'm going to beat his ass worse than he is in his rap. Because we all know his rap career is absolute bullshit
Starting point is 00:15:41 and it's phony and it's fake and you know I was going to expose his fighting career as bad as his rap career okay we'll get back to Taran in a moment I want to ask you about Leon Edwards on the situation there you know Tyron came out and said that originally UFC wanted you to go and face Leon Edwards what was the situation there
Starting point is 00:16:01 and did you turn down that fight originally in London absolutely not that's the fakesest news I've ever heard first off let's get name right you know the guy's name is leon scott and nobody knows who he is i've never heard of him second of all i just came off a world title fight that i won and i got robbed and it was a fake fight it was a fake rest and thank god for the travel ban in uk because mark goddard needs to keep his fucking bitch ass over in uk because he sucks at fucking ref and he should never be allowed to rep another fucking high-level fight ever again absolutely pathetic the way he robbed me and was paid off
Starting point is 00:16:37 to fucking give Usman to get his handraise. I beat the shit out of Usman for 24 minutes, and he wanted to fucking save Usman's life, so it didn't go to the scorecards because everybody knows I was winning that fight. It was a fake stoppage. It was a fake fight. There was fake fowls.
Starting point is 00:16:51 He called fowls when they weren't there. I kick him in the liver. He calls the fake nutshot. You know, I didn't even poke him in that eye, and he's faking like he got poked an eye on that side. And then, so he's calling fowls when they're not there. But then when there's fowls when they're fowls right in front of his face, Usman's hit me in the back of the head towards the end of the fight,
Starting point is 00:17:09 and I'm covering intelligently defending, and then he's just stopping, like, out of nowhere for no reason. I mean, the guy's a piece of shit. I got fucked in my last fight, and I was not scheduled or asked about for any other fight, except for a rematch right now. The only reason I was willing to step up this week in America because I'm America's ship, I'm peopleship,
Starting point is 00:17:30 and I wanted to save sports. I wanted to put our show for the sports world. I wanted to entertain all these people's lives that are stuck in their homes, and I was going to do that by beating the shit out of Tyrone Woodley on six days notice. We'll get back to that in a moment. I want to ask about Leon, right? Leon seems to be kept getting overlooked by the UFC. They keep sort of giving them knockbacks.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Do you feel that's a fair assessment? And what do you think of that? I'm not here to talk about some gatekeeper, some guy that nobody knows about, buddy. We came to talk about America's champ, people's champ, and what my future holds. And, you know, my cards aren't with some guy named Leon Scott. My cards are held with Marty fake newsmen, my rematch, or a long-standing rivalry and a beast that everybody can get behind.
Starting point is 00:18:13 They know me and Willey have deep-rooted hate for each other. So, you know, I got two guys on my list that I'm going to be fighting in the next month or two, and that's either going to be Marty Fake Newsman or Tyke Will Woody. Yeah, no, I totally understand that, but I sort of want to get it, you know, your opinion on, because you were a guy, let's be honest about it, you know, sort of earlier on your career, you and Dana had your issues. It seems the same way with Leon and him. What do you think that is?
Starting point is 00:18:37 I don't know, man. I'm not, I'm not a journalist, man. I'm not a guy that's in my mom's basement who's pretending to be a journalist when he didn't even get his journalist degree. So all these guys out here that they're supposed to journalists, you know, like, where's their schooling? Where's their credentials to show that they're real journalists? Why aren't they reading about, why aren't they writing about real journalists type
Starting point is 00:18:57 stuff, you know? They're too busy, you know, eating Cheetos talking about Comic-Con. So, you know, get these guys. The only thing that's good that's came out of this fucking vogue. is that all these journalists can shut up stay in their mom's basement and not go to Comic-Con. Was that a joy about me?
Starting point is 00:19:13 No, it was just all the other journalists out there. I don't know. Do you go to Comic-Con? No, not at all. That isn't my seeing Colby at all. Okay, then you're not a nerd or aversion now. All right, man. You talked about that, obviously, Taran Woodley, and he's gone on a prefront rant about you again.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I listened to his interview with Ariel Helwani on ESPN on Instagram. I think it was. And he literally went to school and you again, he was calling you a bitch, you know, all sorts of profanities. You really got under his skin at this stage. Is that fair to say that you've really sort of rattled him? Yeah, you know, I've been under that guy's skin, you know, I was taking that guy's soul and
Starting point is 00:19:50 consciousness a couple years ago in American top team. So he's never been able to get over that. And before, you know, he had, you know, when he had the world title a couple years ago, you know, he had a little bit of power to be able to pick who he could fight. And he was ducking me. he didn't want to fight me because he knew how good I was. We traded at ATC. You know, I left him unconscious multiple times.
Starting point is 00:20:11 So, you know, now he knows that he might have to fight me. And he's just, I'm under his skin because he knows I'm a better fighter. And I'm an embarrassing in front of the world, you know. It's, you know, you saw what I did to Robbie Lawler. I had no camp. The world's most dangerous man, Robbie Lawler, had no camp. I'll fight that bitch Tyrone Woodie anytime, any place. And I don't want to hear any bullshit about Woodley being more American.
Starting point is 00:20:34 He hates this country. and everything it stands for. You said that, you know, it seems as though they're leaning down, giving your former best friend, Jorge Mazvedal, that title shot against Kamara Usman. So it's obviously just Taran Woodley then in the picture
Starting point is 00:20:49 if that fight happens. Is that correct to say? You know, the thing is, is that we have to find out how that plays out, because I've been telling people in the media for months what's going to happen with that fight. I said, journeyman George Mossadol, a.k.a. the street, Judas, is going to
Starting point is 00:21:05 overpriced himself out of the fight. He don't want to fight Marty Fake Newsman. He don't want to fight anybody that can wrestle because he can't wrestle. All he can do is get lucky and throw some Hail Mary shots and land some Hail Mary knockouts and get lightning in a bottle and get a little hype on him. That's all George is hype. Let's not forget the man has double-digit losses.
Starting point is 00:21:24 He's got almost 15 losses on his record. Let's not forget the guy's a 50-50 fighter in the last three, four, five years. If you look at his record combined, let's not forget, you know, the guy hasn't beat anybody relevant in the top five. The guy's all hype. I mean, this is what's bad about the sport today is that all you have to do is get one or two knockouts and you get all the hype on you and people think you're a world beater, but it's not realistic.
Starting point is 00:21:47 So, but going back to my original point is that George is not going to sign this fight. I think, you know, what happened? This fight was supposed to be signed a month or two ago. They've been trying to, they've been dragging this fight out, trying to get this fight signed. And you see George's get them too much issues.
Starting point is 00:22:03 He wants the Connor fight and he thinks he deserves Connor money. He doesn't deserve Connor money and he's not a Connor level fighter. So, you know, he needs to get over that. He needs to get out there and either take the ass of him by Marty and get exposed, which I don't think he's going to show up for, or he needs to sit the fuck back and let the big boys play at the top of the mound. And that's me against Marty fake newsman, round two. I believe, right, and I think this is sort of, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:26 people sort of maybe have a vendetta against you. And you even mentioned it there, maybe the media, maybe, you know, other fighters. Do you feel that way that it's sort of coming now into the fight game and things like that that the people don't want to see or give you the credit you think and feel you deserve because of your political views and your outspoken nature? Yeah, and that's okay. You know, I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to make money.
Starting point is 00:22:51 So, you know, if these people, you know, they want to hate on me, they want to love me, you know. At least I'm giving them an emotion, you know, I don't really care if they hate me. If they hate me and they want to see me get knocked out, thank God. Enjoy the show because I'm never getting nice. knocked down, no one's going to beat me anymore. I'm going to beat everybody. When I have a fair playing field, not when I have an incompetent rap who calls fake foul, calls fake stoppages,
Starting point is 00:23:11 and calls a fake fight. We're not talking about Mark not so goodard. We're talking about real fighting and real fights, so, and fair playing field, not corrupt, fucking getting paid off to do something. So, you know, all these people, you know, at least I've given them something to hate, man,
Starting point is 00:23:28 and make their lives, their miserable lives better. You know, all these people that are miserable and want to vent their frustrations on me, you know, about the way I do my business and the way that I try and entertain the people around the world, you know, that's, you know, that's their thoughts and that's their opinion. They're entitled to their own opinion. They're entitled to their own free speech just like we have in America. And, you know, if they want to hate me, so be it, you know, but you're going to, you're going to tune in. You're going to enjoy the show. And that's what I'm going to keep doing is delivering the show
Starting point is 00:23:59 to the fans, for the people. And, you know, I'm back to save sports. and say it to the UFC. I watched back your fight with Kamara Usman this morning. And, you know, I actually, I'm not blown smoke of your ass. I had to score 3-1 for you going into that final round. I think Kamara came out maybe in the fifth round, thinking he had to do something to win the fight. Do you feel that way?
Starting point is 00:24:19 Have you watched back the fight? Yeah, I watched it back once or twice. Yeah, he definitely came out in the fifth. He went hard, you know, and my coaches, you know, were telling me they thought that I was at 3-1-2, or 3-1 as well. So, you know, I was kind of, I kind of went into autopilot mode, and I was like, you know, just more trying to, I don't know, I just, I didn't fight how I normally fight where I just fight until the last second, you know, I fought like the first four rounds I had, I thought I had three rounds easily in the bag. You know, I was wobbling in almost every single round. I had him hurt.
Starting point is 00:24:52 You know, I was winning the striking exchanges and the fifth round, you know, I don't know, I slowed down. And that wasn't me, and I fought a really bad fight that fifth round. So basically what I'm trying to say now is that was my worst night and that was Marty Fake Newsman's best night. And you saw what happened. My worst night against his best night and I still should have won the fight. Imagine what happens when I have an average night or a better night or my best night. Marty Fake Newsman won't have a chance against me next time. Listen, I think I totally agree with you.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I think a rematch is definitely inevitable and like who doesn't want to see it after that first fight. It was insane. I'm just interested to know what rounds did you score for yourself. I had you won two and four, Kamara Usman, for three. What, did you, did you score the rounds? Yep, those are the exact same rounds I was going to say before you said it.
Starting point is 00:25:36 One, two and four. Okay, cool. And I was winning the fifth, too. If you go back and look at a fifth, I was winning until, you know, I slipped on a banana peel and got clipped a little bit. But, you know, we go into a fight to kill or be killed now. I signed up to the killer be killed.
Starting point is 00:25:52 So I got robbed of that. They didn't let me fight to death. I signed up to fight to death. This is professional fighting. We're not talking about NBA basketball. We're not talking about LeBron, LeBron James, faking fouls or sitting out of the basketball game because his toe hurt. We're talking about getting locked in a UFC fucking Octagon and fighting to the death because that's what we signed up to do. It's a dangerous fucking sport.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Let us be dangerous and don't fucking stop the fight early or call fake fouls, you fucking coward Mark Goddard. Stay the fucking UK, you piece of shit. You clearly obviously don't like Mark Goddard. Is there any possibility you'll ever fight in the Octagon with him being a referee? again. There's no possibility I'll ever be in the same room with that fucking bitch ever again. If I see Mark Gartard on the street, I don't know if I'm going to be able to contain myself now. I'm going to be honest. Like, it's going to take so much self-discipline to really hold myself back from what he robbed me of, you know. It's clear as day that he was paid off and someone paid him off in the UK to do this.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And, you know, I have a lot of enemies in the UK with Bisping and Darry the Dooboight Hill. So, you know, it's obvious that the UK, they don't like me. And, you know, it's obvious the British also hate Americans, you know. They haven't had an opinion since 17-17-17-76, you know. So, you know, there's a reason that he has some hate for me, and he wanted to take that out and rob me, you know, because all the bad calls he made. So, you know, that guy's a piece of shit,
Starting point is 00:27:22 and I'll never be in the same room again, let alone a fucking UFC off-done. I feel, and I'm not, like, I feel there's a real, maybe since that fight and obviously you're very upset and you know pissed off the way it went but I feel as though Calby Covington we're seeing a real aggressive angry Calby Covington more so than we've ever seen is that a fair enough statement to make of you at the moment how you're feeling I couldn't agree anymore now before I was playing with everybody this was just a game it was a joke I was just putting on a show for people I was laughing I wasn't taking it serious now now now I'm fucking pissed now you're going to see
Starting point is 00:27:59 fucking pissed off, Kobe. You're going to see real Colby. You're going to see a guy who has a chip on his shoulder. Before I was playing, I'm fucking serious now. Wait until you see how good I am inside that oxygen now that I'm serious. Is it just based on that fight alone or is it based on things, other things that have happened outside
Starting point is 00:28:16 it? Is it everything sort of an accumulation of things where you get maybe pissed off with, you know, as you said, they're playing with people. Is it growing old in you? I wouldn't say that part's growing old because, you know, this is the entertainment show business. And I want to put on a show for the I want to give them, you know, some light in the darkness.
Starting point is 00:28:33 That's exactly what I want to be is the light in the darkness, give some people hope, give someone some inspiration to keep going. But it's a culmination of everything, man. The UFC has just, they haven't utilized me the right way. I put my whole life on life for this company. I was willing to go to Brazil when I had favelas one in my head for $50,000. I was willing to go fight on an Indian tribe on six days notice against a guy who had a full camp. and Tyrone Woodby.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I'm here to fucking make this sport great again. I'm here to move this sport forward and do things never done before in the sport. So, you know, the UFC needs to get me the ball, and I'm going to run for the touchdown. They need to stop treating me like shit. They need to stop fucking putting incompetent reps in there. And it needs to be fair, dude. I know that since I support our president, and I know everybody hates our president, and they want to hate on him and say he's such a bad person,
Starting point is 00:29:26 they use that, they hold that against me. And that's not fair, man. All I want is a level playing field. Especially now with, I don't know if you know what's going on in professional sports in America with the sign feeling with the Houston Astros. I don't know if you've seen how big of a deal that was. The signs deal with the Houston Astros, the deflate gate with the Patriots and all the stuff that's going on in football.
Starting point is 00:29:50 So look, we got baseball, football, the two biggest sports, and everybody's talking about the cheating that's going on. It needs to be cleaned up. It needs to be playing field. what about the UFC? What about me getting robbed? You know, I don't see people calling for that. So, you know, everybody wants to clean, you know, sports and they want a level playing field.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah, so do I. That's all I want. Is a level playing field? Let me go create my dreams and create my destiny on my own. And there shouldn't be anything else in a way of that. Not some incompetent refs, not some guy, some better in wherever around the world that has all this money on the fight that they needed to go the other way. can make money. I just want a level playing field. That's all I have now. Yeah, that's what I was trying to get it earlier on. Like, is that the way you felt maybe there's a vendetta against you, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:35 because of your beliefs and things like that from certain people? Absolutely. There's no question, man. There's no question that the hottest topic in the world right now is Donald Trump. And it always is. He's the most powerful man in the world. The American president is a person, you know, that's in a powerful position. So, you know, I know a lot of people don't agree with him. You know, he in America you know there's a silent majority of people that love him but there's not people that come out publicly and support and show their support for him so you know first and foremost you know president trump is doing a great job and keeping the coronavirus from spreading and he's keeping America safe and he's got everything under control but with that being said you know people shouldn't
Starting point is 00:31:16 be holding those words against me just because I support someone I'm not going to come at you if you support somebody in Ireland that I don't like you know I'm sure you support a lot of people in Ireland I don't like, but I'm not going to hold that against you. That's your, that's your, that's your God-given right now to support and have the opinion about whoever you want. I don't, I'm not going to hold something against you because you have a different opinion. I don't support anyone in, in Ireland, Calby. I'm an impartial journalist. I like that. There's not, there's not many left by you. I'm honest, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I'm honest, bro. I like that. I can appreciate that. That's why I still do interviews with you. Right, I got to ask you, we move it on. You know, Joanna Young-Jechek, obviously being European. She's from Poland. You've had a lot of beef with her. She said before the Usman fight that she hoped Usman beat you. And it's been going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:32:06 You're obviously teammates. You've called her washed up this week after her fight against Wei Li Zhang. She said you must bow to the Queen to apologize. Listen, we've never got actually confirmation to what exactly has happened between you and Joanna. What's going on there? Yeah, the confirmation is there was never a problem now. I never said anything about Joanne. I never looked at her wrong, never did anything.
Starting point is 00:32:28 One day she came in the gym and she just started screaming at me when I'm training, Oh, Kobe, this, that I hate you. Ah, blah. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, what's your deal? What's your issue? Like, I know last week she tried to come up to me and flirt with me and I wasn't giving her the time of day because now, let's be honest, I have standards and she doesn't
Starting point is 00:32:47 fit those standards. She's not a seven and a half are up, and I only messed with seven and a half to her up. So she got her feelings a little hurt. that raw America steal and twisting sex appeal. Colby K. House K. Elk. K. Elk. K. Elk. K. Elk. K. Upton didn't want to take her on a date, didn't want to flirt with her and have any interest in her because I'm too busy getting dimes and supermodels to waste my time on
Starting point is 00:33:05 some ugly booby woman from Poland or whatever. So, you know, she got her feelings her. And I think, you know, now she's hooking up with George and she knows that George is my bottom feeder and he's my sloppy seconds and he's going to get served in the octagon soon enough too. So, you know, she just wants to come and hate me and make me look like the bad guy. But, you know, everybody knows Joanna. She's not a good person, man.
Starting point is 00:33:29 She believes in her own height. She thinks she's better than life. She thinks she's better than people. And no one's better than anybody. I don't care what your title is. I don't care how much money you have. That doesn't mean you're better than any money. And, you know, I did apologize, Joanne.
Starting point is 00:33:42 She asked for an apology, so I gave it. I gave it a week before her fight. And I apologize. I said, Joanna, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you have to get your face rearranged. and we're all going to make a bunch of money at my bookie. And that's exactly what happened now. I told the people right.
Starting point is 00:33:57 We all got rich at MyBooky IG and Joanna got her face rearranged. And it's still rearranged. I don't know if you saw the picture other day. That thing's still black and blue and that thing looks nasty, man. That girl should probably never come back to fighting again. So obviously that relationship seems untenable at the moment. Yeah, that relationship will never, you know, she's a drama queen.
Starting point is 00:34:18 You know, she ain't a She ain't a strawweight queen The only queen she is is the drama queen So you're not going to bow to the queen And apologize Does the king bow to anybody? No, The king does what the fuck he wants
Starting point is 00:34:31 The king will not be bowing to anybody If anything, the queen will come back And bow to me and if she's bowing me And if she's bowing me on two hands and knees We know what she's doing down there Okay All right, Cobby, we're talking about relationships To yourself
Starting point is 00:34:43 I was listening to the interview you did With the guys from Submission Radio, good friends of mine, Dennis and Casper. I want to get your thoughts on that. Obviously, you put out a picture after you publicly apologized to Dustin Porriere. What was said in that conversation between yourself and Dustin? Yeah, you know, I felt bad now. It's the first time in my career where, you know, I had to apologize, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And, you know, but you know what? First and foremost, I'm a man of my word. And if I make a promise to somebody and I made a promise to Dan Lambert of the American top team, And, you know, we sat down. I told Dustin Pora, I made a promise. We're not going to talk about each other. We're different weight classes. We're on the same team.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Let's keep it civil, man. You go on your side. You train. I train on my side. So, you know, I broke that promise now. And I felt bad because Ariel Hwani was interviewing me. And he caught me off guard. I thought we were just talking about Tyrone Woodie and just talking about Marty fake newsman.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And then he threw me a curve ball with Dustin. And, you know, I was just so caught up in the moment that I wasn't really thinking. I just, you know, I just kept talking. and, you know, I feel bad, you know, I really do feel bad and it really hurts, but, you know, I think that that shows another side of me, you know, that, you know, I do have some sympathy and I do, you know, want to be a person of integrity and a person of character and, you know, it's never in my intention to ever lie or not keep my word. So if I don't keep my word, you know, I wanted to apologize and be the bigger man and, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:10 say sorry to Dustin. I wish him to well and the best in his career going forward. And, you know, I'm proud to be an American top team fighter, and I'm proud to be managed by Dan Lambert. Just a couple more. I do appreciate the time as always, Calby. Calby, you know, in your heart of hearts, then, you know, what is the fight?
Starting point is 00:36:28 Obviously, Usman is there, but we have this long-running beef, as we've talked about with Tyne Woodley. There's Leon Edwards there in the picture as well. What in your heart of hearts? What do you want and what do you feel is going to be next for you? I won my rematch with Marty Fake Newsman. You know, that's what the people won. That fight was one of the most exciting fights in years in the last couple years.
Starting point is 00:36:50 So, you know, I want to go back out there and do round two and show that I'm new and improved. I'm better than I was then. That was my worst night ever. That was his best night ever. So, you know, and I just want a fair play field. I just want a fair rep that's going to call it down the center. It's not going to be favoritist because it's obviously favoritist. He's called fake foul for Uzman, but then.
Starting point is 00:37:11 When the fouls were on me, he didn't call those. So that's very biased. It's very clear if you go watch that fight, rewatch it, that he was a biased rest, you know, an incompetent rest, and he swayed the momentum of the fight. I win that fight 100 times out of 100 if he doesn't break the action for a fake nutshot. I win that fight 100 times out of 100 if he doesn't shift my momentum.
Starting point is 00:37:35 You know, I'm winning that fight if he doesn't do a fake stop when I stand right up and I'm completely coherent and intelligently defending myself. So that's all I want now. I just want what I deserve and what I earn. And I earn that fight with Marty Fake Newsman. Round two is coming. He's not going to go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Do you think that's next though? So George is not going to accept that fight? What? Do you think that's next though? I do think that's next. You know, if it's not, then, you know, it's for the people. I'm doing something for the people, and I want to put on show for the people.
Starting point is 00:38:05 As the people's camp, I will fight Tyrone Willie, and I will embarrass him in front of the whole world. world. I'll send him back to, you know, his pathetic acting career, his pathetic B-list rapper career that he's trying to go. And we'll never have to hear from Tyrone Woodie again. Then I'll get my hands back on Marty Fake Newsman. But I'm not taking my eyes off the prize in the goal and the main goal and what I'm here for. And that's the world title. And Marty Fake Newsman is in my way of it. I've got to ask you, is ATT still open at the moment, the facility for you to train? Yeah, ATT, you know, I got to give a huge thank you to Dan Lange.
Starting point is 00:38:40 for, you know, keeping the cool during this chaotic time. And, you know, the pros are still allowed to go to American top team and do their training and training camps and get ready for fights. But average civilians, like, off the streets, like, no, the regular classes aren't going. It's just for the pros right now. And so it's amazing. You know, we can stay in shape. And that's why I stayed in shape.
Starting point is 00:39:02 And I was in shape ready to fight this weekend against Woodley because, you know, Dan Lambert in the doors, he has the American Top Team. You know, he has a great team, great coaches. We have a great thing going over there. That's why we're the best gym in the world. There's not even a close second to us right now. And have you made, right, obviously things are going to get worse, Cobby. Have you made contingency plans for, you know, training?
Starting point is 00:39:21 What are you going to do if, you know, the gym gets closed down by the government and things like that? Is there, you know, have you got a contingency plan at home to train to get guys in, to spar, to do whatever you need to do? Yeah, absolutely. You know, but the thing is, you know, you know, the best fighters and the best athletes, you know, are visualizers. And when you can do something at home without a coach yelling at you to do something,
Starting point is 00:39:48 when you can really push your body and your mind to the limit without having a coach to come in and scream at you, that's when you're going to make the most games and you're going to improve and you're going to evolve more than you've ever thought you can evolve. So, you know, I still have plenty of things I can do. I can shadow box weights. I can run. I can use, you know, barbells. I can do this, I can do that, I can wrestle with guys. I can bring guys over to my house.
Starting point is 00:40:10 You know, I have Matt in my house, and I can just train judicious. So, you know, you will see improvements during this time when you would think no one's going to be improving. And you haven't seen the best Kobe Chaos Covington yet. I promise you that. Kobe Chaos Covington 2.0 is coming to you very soon. Hopefully in the next month when we get this coronavirus bullshit canceled out. But in the meantime, to the world, you know, wash your hands, man. Wash your nuts.
Starting point is 00:40:35 wash your cracks and just let's be sanitary guys let's think about the world don't just think about yourself think about the world don't be selfish be selfless I was going to say that did you have a message for people but that's obviously the message because in fairness you have been getting a lot
Starting point is 00:40:51 more fan support in recent months and I think that was very noticeable at UFC 245 when the Colby chance started ringing up in the fourth and fifth round so that's obviously your message to the people listen Calby man it's always a pleasure to have you on the show I'm really looking forward to seeing you get back in there again soon and I do appreciate the time and you stay safe and look after
Starting point is 00:41:10 yourself appreciate it now have a good day thanks man well there he was certainly didn't pull any punches did mr. Cobby Cobbington wow oh it was it was it was uh sorry i was just thinking of the shit he said there it was funny shit man he's uh he's a loose time at times are you happy that you officially aren't a nerd or a virgin he told you that on the line there does that make you feel good you patting yourself on the back for that one yeah but like i had to say something to him i wasn't fucking letting them having a pop at me on air um or
Starting point is 00:41:44 anyone else i don't know that's right well i don't fucking me and conna come on like in fairness now you know me be it hardly fucking hell comic on my arse get a grip son another interesting thing i thought about that interview um is the horreysmal as well he could be could he be potentially right in that? Do you think that potentially maybe
Starting point is 00:42:05 Jorge has maybe out negotiated himself in some respects? Do you want to hear my take in Horgie? Do you want to hear it right? I'm bored. I'm sick of the Horge thing. Hore.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Since, you know, obviously the McGregor thing when he started the Gucci jacket, all that, I think it's becoming more forced and forced as it goes along. And it just doesn't appeal to me. I don't want to see Horgee fight McGregor.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I'd love to see Calby and Horgay throw down. I think that would be a, you know, a smashing fight because there's a massive narrative there. I'm just getting, yeah, I don't know. Does he really want Isman? It's sort of, they tried pushing it really pathetically on Super Bowl week. It didn't come across well. And now it's sort of sort of fizzle out. I don't know what the crack is there.
Starting point is 00:42:50 It's gone very quiet. So you're just sort of thinking, what does he want next? You know, he's not really doing an awful lot in the last number of weeks either. What do you think? I don't really care that much about what happens outside the
Starting point is 00:43:04 the octagon so to speak in terms of I don't like I don't fall out of love with a fight over how people
Starting point is 00:43:13 are behaving as much as other people I think I never really was mad for the Usman fight Usman and Masvedal I felt it was there was other options
Starting point is 00:43:23 there that I felt that were a lot more interesting and I still think, like, yeah, the fight is, is obviously the one that's going to create some interest. But, I mean, I think, you know, putting Masvedal in the situation in against, like, an Usman here, maybe aren't, you know, making, hey, well, the sunshines where they can with him, you know, like maybe you put him in there against a strike or a fight that will, you know, be guaranteed fireworks.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I know that's what they taught the idea was what it would be and it didn't really come to be. but he just has benefited massively from those three consecutive wins till Ascrant and Diaz. I don't really like I feel like because I was at that fight where he was in the Gucci robe and so I didn't actually get to see it. Like I feel like a lot of people made up their minds on that on the broadcast. And I haven't gone back and watched a broadcast in full. I can remember I was asking you when I got back to what the hell happened. I didn't have what was going on.
Starting point is 00:44:22 But yeah, I think I think Colby might be. not to something with the whole negotiations though. Definitely. Like the UFC knock people down back to Earth pretty quickly a lot. Like they don't want you getting too big for your views. I get an element of that as well from when you spoke to Darren Till a couple of weeks back. Yeah. I felt as though he was talking, he was hinting a bit towards money.
Starting point is 00:44:45 He didn't make a song and dance about it by any means. But certainly, you know, it sounds like he wants more money and he doesn't want to rock the book too much talking about it. And so yeah. I think he could be on to something there but moving forward it's going to be interesting to see what do you think happens there do you do you think do you back colby to get what he wants here and get
Starting point is 00:45:04 that out of those men fight next before Masval gets in there? No I think they'll have Maserall in the list ahead of them I think we're looking at Woodley for for Colby Calvin and we've talked about that fight for so long as I said to Calby there it's almost gone old to a certain extent people are getting frustrated pissed off they want to see it
Starting point is 00:45:20 it's a shame like this is this is going to like you know we're taking Leon out of equation again and that's like it's almost if the ufc want that to happen but i do think this is the fight everyone wanted to see a year and a half go when when thorium was champion was him and colby so i think they're going to go ahead and push for that i really do hmm i don't know like um two guys coming off losses is it a main event you know what i mean like i'm just thinking like you know it's obviously a huge fight um it's going to create so much polarity in in the u s you'd imagine as well given, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:55 That's what I think they're going to do. Yeah, I mean, I just feel Leon, it's just such a shit situation if they don't give him a great fight. Like, you know, but Woodley there and then expecting you jump through those kind of hoops.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And then, you know, I think most people agree that it was the right decision that Leon made. And I think UFC, a few hours later, canceling the event, kind of,
Starting point is 00:46:18 you know, it just makes no sense to kind of punish him for this. I really don't think so. but yeah look you can't you can't deny how much traction colby has brought to this potential fight with woodley like i mean it felt as though people weren't even you know leon as soon as this happened the colby and tyrant thing kicked off it felt like leon was forgotten about completely and that's something we never want to see you know yeah and i think as i said earlier i think it's the way
Starting point is 00:46:47 denny white operates and i think you know because leon has not that standout main events slot that he's focusing on other guys in these tough times. Sad as maybe. We'll see how the cards will lie. Obviously, Cage Warriors went down at the weekend. Last Friday. We had Graeme Boyle on the show last week
Starting point is 00:47:07 and he said it would take trains, I sorry, trucks, planes and men with guns, I believe he said, to stop the event. And he was, he rained through with his word when a few hours after he did the show, Aegee pulled the London venue and in the
Starting point is 00:47:23 blink of an eye, he moved the event to Manchester, where it took place behind closed doors at the BC Arena. Mason Jones comes away with the lightweight title. Paddy Pimlet back in the wind column. Two UFC London relocated
Starting point is 00:47:39 fighters meet Bartos Fabinski and Darren Stewart in the main event, Bartos Vavinsky, who moved up from well to wait to middle way comes away at the win. A wild, wild situation. How did you feel about it going down in the end, though? Because we were here last week going, look, we feel like hypocrites
Starting point is 00:47:55 because, you know. Yeah, big time. You know, it's hard. We could see both sides of the coin there. After it's happened, I got a lot of phone calls of fighters and coaches going, Jesus, that was great. It seems like everything's gone well. We're going to hear from Mason Jones and Paddy Pimlet later who both
Starting point is 00:48:11 kind of appraised the precaution that was put into the event in light of the situation, the global situation. What did you think of it? How did it, what taste of it leave in your mouth after it? to honestly, I think it actually did a good thing. I put my mind off everything that's going on in the world for a couple hours.
Starting point is 00:48:29 And, you know, sometimes, you know, we need shit like that. And I know, obviously, you know, the circumstances were obviously horrific. And, you know, it's very dangerous putting people in that situation. But in fairness, the cage worries, even from the Wayans on Friday, they staggered the Wayans. The Wayans, you know, set times there wasn't too many people in the room at once, which was, you know, a very, very good, responsible thing to do. And, you know, I'm not going to lie now here,
Starting point is 00:48:54 and I was very conflicted going in. I left with a very happy face and smile. I love the whole card top to bottom. I thought it was really entertaining me, the Darren O'Gorman fight. And I'm going to talk about a few the fights shortly. But yeah, man, like, fair play to grain boiling. You have to admire that sort of passion and determination
Starting point is 00:49:12 to get a card on amidst the circumstances. And I think in terms of, as I said, there, the safety, they handle it really, really well. Yeah, I mean, it seems like everyone was pretty impressed. with the way it was. I mean, you'll hear from Mason Jones. He was saying it was like nearly a military operation the way they had it going. And
Starting point is 00:49:29 Graham Boylan warned them beforehand. You'll hear this later that if I see you walking around these halls or whatever, you're banned from Cage Warriors. Like, I'm just going to, you'll never fight here again. Like that's pretty, pretty stringent stuff. Especially when you're talking to guys fighting for a title and obviously the likes of
Starting point is 00:49:45 Patty Pimlet there as well and USA fighters. So, yeah, interesting. Let's take a look at the results. Mason Jones, and V. Joe McCulligan. Should have been the main event. Definitely. Absolutely. Like ridiculous fight.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Great fight for as long as it went. You know, stopped just before the end of the first round. And Mason Jones, as we said, catching Joe with a flush knee. Just connected absolutely perfectly. And that was all she wrote. But McCalligan looked very, very good early on, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:50:16 He did, man. He landed some big shots. Both guys landed big shots earlier on. I think it was up. the point where it was finished. It was very hard to even sort of judge that round because both guys were landing and they're both their own leather and going straight out
Starting point is 00:50:29 trying to control dull, dull, dull, dull, dull, and it just shows you at both of them, you know, absolutely warriors. And Mason was great, you know, says all the right things afterwards and does all the right things. He's, for a guy of his age, 24 years of age, he's exceptionally mature. And it was
Starting point is 00:50:45 some performance is going to take stump stop on this guy, I reckon he's definitely on the road to the UFC, 100%. yeah absolutely he has it all i mean um i think joe did a great job of getting his face early on um but mason uh stay composed uh really seemed like he was uh you know even though joe was maybe on the on the front foot the front step a lot more i felt as though mason never looked too uncomfortable i always felt as though he was still in the fight and obviously then uh time that time that knee beautifully there's nothing more i can say about it um he interesting you'll hear from later on he's
Starting point is 00:51:21 talking about a UFC veteran next. That's pretty much the would be the cherry on top, right, to get him that contract. Yeah, massively, I think. You know, there's other names being thrown around, but, you know, we don't really see them happening. So I think that seems to be the race. We saw it with Joy Herbert as well against Kane Carriosa when he defeated him. It seems to be that one scalp of that UFC guy is going to really put you in the shot window. It's almost as if,
Starting point is 00:51:49 you know, it's what Sean Shelby wants at this point. to put the ink in the pen in order to sign that contract. So, yeah, why not? But who was out there to do it? That's going to be the interesting thing. But listen, Ian Dean pulls guys in from fucking everywhere. So who knows.
Starting point is 00:52:05 But yeah, definitely. I was watching the main event between Darren Stewart and Bartos Vibinsky. And I was thinking, like, look, Graham Boylan moved hell and heaven to make this fight happen. And there's Bartos Vibinsky. lying all over Darren Stewart bleeding all over him
Starting point is 00:52:25 15 minute fight I mean if you're Darren Stewart surely you're going Jesus why did I why did I want to do this so badly yeah he didn't do Anton man I know it's very very difficult to get up but there were situations there in the third rounds where he looked as though
Starting point is 00:52:40 he was just like shit man you know this is going to end he was making very very little attempts to get up at one point obviously he was an accurate but it was a poor fight. And Barthos is savage Grappler as well.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Yeah, yeah, really good grappler, but that court was nasty as well but, um, I was going to say Brad was going mental. Uh,
Starting point is 00:53:03 I was like, that's what happened. And he was like, sorry, but it was, uh, yeah, it wasn't a great fight.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Now that's what I'm saying. If you, you know, Joe and Mason headline and that, I think, you know, it sort of takes away from a little bit the card on a whole is that main event.
Starting point is 00:53:16 But, um, yeah, listen, what can we do? We're not going to get the, the best, the best,
Starting point is 00:53:20 fights every time. But there was some absolute corkers on that on the fight card. Paddy Pimlet returns to the win column. Yeah. Absolutely one-sided
Starting point is 00:53:30 win. I don't think... Yeah, I felt sorry for Decky with the slip, you know, he sort of lost his foot and then you just can't do that against Paddy,
Starting point is 00:53:37 you know what I mean? He's... That was the beginning in the end. I think we all could see it. You know, once he slipped when he tried throwing that kick,
Starting point is 00:53:44 it was game over. It was just a matter of time. And unfortunate for Decky, but that's, you know, that's the fight game. that's the business the guys are in but listen fair play to Decky as well stepping up
Starting point is 00:53:54 on such short notice we wouldn't have had a fight if it wasn't for him so kudos to him as well absolutely but it is a great thing for cage warriors to have pimbleau back in the wind column it changes everything like I mean obviously we're going to hear from patty in a few and he doesn't think that mason jones for him and him for the title makes
Starting point is 00:54:14 sense from cage warriors point of view and look we saw this with joy herbert as well there were so many people calling for Mason Jones and Joy Herbert and Joy said straight away, look, that fight's not going to happen. He just knew it wasn't going to happen and I feel like this is a very similar one. But lots and lots of interesting things they can do about those guys for sure. Perry Goodwin and Steve Amable is a great featherway fight. Really, really good.
Starting point is 00:54:40 I love Perry Goodwin, man. I love his swagger. And I love his mustache. I'm not going to lie, it's very impressive. Really good fight. Both guys again, straight out, swinging for the fences. cracking each other. You know, it was one of those ones
Starting point is 00:54:52 I think it could have gone either way, really. And if you look at, geez, aimable, man, what a fucking tough dude. He took some fucking cracks to that chin and still stayed in there. He seems to come on, the more of the fight goes, and Perry was fading a little bit. Great fight, like those two boys
Starting point is 00:55:09 just put everything in there. Listen, Goodwin must be one of the most exciting fighters on the Cage Warriors roster. He's never in a bad's rap, man. Unreal. Just goes out there banging, you know what I mean? We've seen him now in two featherweight. fights he's looked very good and obviously have morgan charier he was meant to fight that night i'm sure he's devastated i'm actually going to try and get in touch with morgan for next week's
Starting point is 00:55:28 episode i think but i'm sure he's devastated he didn't get to uh defend that interim title um or was he fighting for the interim title i can't remember which one i can't remember yeah um you know you have mads bernel you have morgan sharii and you have perry there um if they aren't going to make that morgan v mad's fight next they got to make Perry v. Morgan if Mads is out, like, I mean, that would be a ridiculous fight. Just think of Perry. Perry, Fecan, Fort Rees-McKean's
Starting point is 00:55:58 last fight. Like, it's mental to think that. You know what I was. There was three fights ago. Sorry, it was Jesus Christ, that's fucking how active the guy is as well, but, yeah, why not? Why not do that? Why not do that for the fans? Why not put that on in Belfast? Why not make Belfast a night of champions
Starting point is 00:56:14 a bloody good fight card and throw fucking Pottie Pimblein in there as well, and Mason Jones and Joe McCog and the whole lot of them. I think they need to do that with this next cage wearis car, if it goes ahead. We don't know anything at the moment. But yeah, I think they need to start making something like that. A head of UFC Dublin as well would make sense for the promotion to do that
Starting point is 00:56:32 with a lot of titles on the line. It just makes exciting. People get talking about Cage Warriors then when they do something like that. Yeah. Speaking of Irish M.A., Darren R.Gorman will... That's going to be a tough one for him to take, man. He looked so, so good over the first two rounds against Connor. Hignapp of credit to,
Starting point is 00:56:51 Connor. That was a heavy, heavy shot he caught him with. My Jesus. But look, it's Darren of said it before, man. When he's,
Starting point is 00:57:00 when he is, when he's at his best, man, he looks incredible. And I feel like this has happened a lot to him where he's looking great, he's looking great, and then he just gets caught
Starting point is 00:57:10 like a moment of hesitation or whatever. And it's just, it's very tough for him. I think he is an incredible skill set. Just very devastating. the way that went down. What a knockout it was for Connor Higna. Yeah, it was unbelievable shot,
Starting point is 00:57:24 but like Connor Higna was in a world of trouble in that second round. You know, and I think Darren O'Gorman, the frustration there for him will be that he didn't get the finish with the triangle there at one point. It was very close.
Starting point is 00:57:35 There was just a few little adjustments he had to make in order to get the finish. But listen, look at Hignett, man. The fucking balls that guy showed him to hang in there in that second round. It was like three minutes, four minutes of the second round. It was probably a 10-8 round
Starting point is 00:57:46 in my scorecard for Darren O' Imagine how old Garman is feeling about that today? Yeah, because he literally looked unbelievable in the first second round. Again, both guys came out, swinging for the fences earlier on in the first, settled down. Second round we saw how good Darren Scrapplin was. It was a really good all-round performance. Then he just stand, you know, they stand up in that third and he gets clipped, I think, what, 15, 20 seconds into the final round, and he must be absolutely gutted.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And I wouldn't be surprised if his legs went probably in that second round. He was in the triangle for so long. He was really trying for the finish and just cut it. I couldn't get it, but yeah, it's just unfortunate for Darren. As you said, he's never in a bad fight that guy. And it's just a few minor adjustments, I think, they'll get him over the line. He's a cracking fighter to watch, man, really good.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Yes, Adam Amarsinger is starting to look like the promise. Well, this guy, when he was going, bro, it was nearly like that kind of Franz Malambo situation where they wanted to rush him into, like, fight the champs in these straight away. He was that good. I think you have losses already in a career. They're necessary speed bumps to kind of, to make you realize the value of experience
Starting point is 00:58:51 and he looked fucking unbelievable against Jake Bond. What a finish, a buzzer, beat, or KO. Absolutely delicious. Probably the most impressive all-round striking performance we saw. And there was a good few.
Starting point is 00:59:03 On the night. Yeah, it was just so technical. And obviously, you know, a lot is to do with his brother. He was in the ultimate fighter, Dean, and he's a big coach, obviously there in the UK scene. And he just looked so polished, man,
Starting point is 00:59:14 with a stand-up, but was really, really impressive the technical aspects of it. unreal. Watch out for that kid. He's gone places. Absolutely. James Hendon looked incredible as well against Chris Edwards, an absolute grappling masterclass. We talk about a striking master class with Armist Singer. Hinden was absolutely unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Chris Edwards' 25th fight. I believe Brad Wharton said it was Edwards 16 fighting in Cagewires or something. And Hendon goes in his fifth professional fight and absolutely fucking rag dolls. A guy of his experience, I am, I cannot tell you how excited I am about James Handen after seeing. I believe he was only 22 years of age as well. Is that all he is?
Starting point is 00:59:53 Holy shit, man. Holy shit. Yeah, listen, there's a row killer. He wasn't even breeding hard. He was, he wrestled for 15 minutes. He wasn't even breeding hard. It looked like he wasn't even sweating. And Chris Edwards fucking, like, he's a tricky guy.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Like, I mean, you're not going to be, you shouldn't be able to completely dominate a guy of his experience, you know? You gave him a seminar at one point, I believe. Is that correct? No comment. Okay, all right, there we go. There we go. That's where the... He should give me a seminar on what he's doing with his curly hair because this looks fantastic and mine looks like shit. It was impressive, man, very impressive.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Just the whole night I thought it was, you know, some... We'd a lovely mix, I think, of fighters there. Young lads coming up on the older crew. Hayden, Stephen. Lovely stoppage earlier in the first. And then Kingsley Crawford with a triangle finish of Lewis Monarch just to top it off there. Yeah. I mean, it was a lot of casualties. The week was crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Samir Fadine was meant to have his Floydway title fight. You know, and obviously Morgan Sharié, that's devastating for him, man. I feel like he's just about to take off. And he had extra kind of, he left earlier because he felt as though France was going to go into lockdown just to be there. And then, I think, you know, Graham did point out in fair. I think we were sort of expecting that this week, you and I as well, you know, looking out for fights that weren't going to happen because of the situation. It was just inevitable, very unfortunate.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Morgan, I'll get his chance again, man, definitely. Yeah, yeah, it's just a crazy, crazy situation, man. But look, it was great to see Paddy Pimlet returned to the win column. I've been texting, Patty, about what kind of food he's eaten ever since his victory during night. I was doing it to Joe McCulligan, lead up to the Jones fight as well. I am fascinated by fighters and what they eat. and when they can eat again.
Starting point is 01:01:46 After weeks and weeks of, you know, eating, as Patty calls it, chicken pepper scrant, you know, you get to eat, you get the pig out on Mickey Diz. So let's have a chat with Paddy Pimler, which is mostly based around food, but we'll be back in about 15 minutes. And you've been asking for it, and we have gotten back. It is the great Paddy Pimler to return to the win column
Starting point is 01:02:09 in Manchester last weekend, an amazing victory over Dekke Dalton, extremely once, as he predicted when I spoke to him before the fight, but Paddy, tell me how good does that feel? 18 months, you've been waiting to get back in that wind, Colleen, you've been waiting to fight.
Starting point is 01:02:25 How good it would have feel to get it done in such emphatic fashion at the weekend? Great. Couldn't beat it, no one of me. Could beat it like if there was a crowd there, obviously, but I couldn't just needed to get done, noam to I'm just made off a got back in there. Should have happened in November, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:43 a cup back and it was halfway after the wait to be honest. Especially after all the uncertainty in the week. It was a... Yeah, it was a pretty mad one. Yeah, I mean, you mentioned it there the uncertainty during the week. Three different opponents again.
Starting point is 01:02:56 This is becoming more and more common place for you, of course, that this keeps happening now. Obviously, one of your opponents had to pull out because of the travel ban in Italy, but, you know, how close are you to kind of losing it? Like, just going here, I'm not doing this when all this stuff is going down
Starting point is 01:03:11 because I'd say it's very easy. Yeah, man. On the Sunday when Molly's fight got cancelled, I thought ours is next. I was sitting there and there was some cake and I was just looking at this cake and looking at my dry chicken and peppers, scrant and we litres of water they had to drink thinking, what want you to go for you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Is this going to be on? I have to just keep drinking water and eating plain chicken and peppers. And, like, I mean, was it just that you were in communication with Graham? Did he kind of give you the confidence that it wasn't going to take? I was always speaking, yeah, and Ian, no and I mean, always speaking to Ian. It was good for me, they got me with the Manchester anyway.
Starting point is 01:03:53 It was only down the road. Yes, yeah. Half an hour away. Did it kind of motivate you at all, Paddy, when there was so much talk about Decky? You know, there was, like, I mean, when that fight was announced, people were like,
Starting point is 01:04:06 oh, well, this is the one we've been waiting for, Decky's going to find out, Decky's going to be able to, you know, hurt Paddy when he's in there, his striking's on a different level. Does that motivate you when people doubt you like that? Yeah, it does, of course. That makes you want to dip more, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:22 I wanted to stay on the feet longer with him. You two feel like kicks and I checked every single one of them. I ate me with the left off, which woke me up, you know what I mean? I always says that you need to get it to wake up and get me a left hook over the top. And I thought, yeah, so I'm going on. And then I had a one two down in the middle and see his face mark up, size away so I thought yeah what happened are you yeah and then he threw that kicking went on his bath and from there it was just like with from there it was just like we'd done
Starting point is 01:04:54 and the changes the rolling them all we're jumping on the back we were doing it with the iron sped and stuff no one of me yes yes and I went over all of that and I said so for all if I'm not going to hunt a choke like I have in the past I'm on a flatten a mountain I want to pound until the ref stop shouldn't that's exactly what happened yes it was incredibly one-sided, to be perfectly honest, but you know, you mentioned at the very start this interview, Paddy, your presence at these
Starting point is 01:05:20 cards is like nothing else we've seen in Cage Warriors, and of course you came out to your usual track, a usual entrance, always electrifying, but obviously very different without the crowd there. How did that feel for you? I'd say it was bizarre. You know, it was a bit bizarre, like to be honest, it was strange,
Starting point is 01:05:37 but I just wanted them, that's still getting in there to have a fight, and it was, you just had to get in there and it was a bit like a spa at the same time, but it wasn't because it's a fight, you don't need to wait one of the. You're in there to play in time
Starting point is 01:05:51 and lift as much damage, so the ref stops to fight. And you obviously have this moment then when you win, and I'm sure it's like this amazing release of emotion, and you're probably used to having a crowd, like, losing their minds in Liverpool, sold out echo,
Starting point is 01:06:06 and then you're there celebrating, is that a weird feeling when it's like, there's not really that energy in the room that you're used? used to? I swear it being so long I just went
Starting point is 01:06:16 bananas anyway putting out of myself started dancing and all that that couldn't even
Starting point is 01:06:22 remember dancing and then just done it but I it's funny when I was I heard Paul
Starting point is 01:06:29 singing my song being with me when I was in the cordy wow it's funny it's funny
Starting point is 01:06:35 so I know that I'm not in the car singing and if I just like Paul and I'm
Starting point is 01:06:40 hear me singing my singing my show how that does it feel the same does it still feel like a win like i mean you've been the highest of the highs in this sport does it does it is it deflated at all because you know it was behind closed doors and you didn't get that that feeling from the crowd or does it feel like every other yeah it's still still a win no one of me there's a new no one to go to fight against you don't
Starting point is 01:07:04 try i was laughing and there was a lot of artists people sitting there he's going to test me and stuff I was thinking, what if he's been smoking? Because that is some good shit. Like, he's just, there's levels of this shit, no one I mean. And, like, no one from that same is on my level. With McCauley and isn't quite beer the night. I respect him and that. He's a good fighter, but he's just not on my level.
Starting point is 01:07:31 What is next for you, though, Paddy? Like, I mean, we've talked about this. The UFC question has been, you know, in the background throughout your classroom, career. And there's also now Mason Jones, obviously you just won the title. I know that European fans would bite your hand off
Starting point is 01:07:47 to see that fight between you and Mason. What way do you feel it's going to go from here? I really don't know. I can't think of anything after the moment until this Corona stuff goes out of the way because we don't even know when the next round age is going to be.
Starting point is 01:08:04 So is it just a matter of waiting at the moment, do you think? Yeah, I just got to wait. I was going to have to buy some about it was on top of ours because I want to have back on the back then it is a fear right like I find myself I was texting you before
Starting point is 01:08:22 this and ever since this quarantine kicked in I've just been stuff on my face man it's um it's quite bad I mean it's do you feel like like further I've just seen the amount of shit I've got on my story before all the chocolate lad I've got chocolate
Starting point is 01:08:36 cereal I've got all chicken fillipers in the freezer ready, all different fries, curly fries, them criss-cross fries, lad, I'm prepared. I got 16 Macums for a fire with you the other day, that's a bargain.
Starting point is 01:08:51 That's an absolute bargain. Absolute bargain, love. Talk me through with your meals since, right? So you've obviously been, as you said, you're eating chicken and peppers, you know, you're keeping your weight down. You look great, like Jesus. You looked in the best physical shape
Starting point is 01:09:05 your life, I'd say, when you weighed in the other day. Yeah, I'm in the best food. Well, I was on that now. means you thought of care or not. That was in the best for your life to do, right? And what has happened since?
Starting point is 01:09:20 You've sent me some pictures. I saw the picture of this immense froyup you had. Just talk me through the day after, the days after the fight. What have been the exceptional eats that you've taken in?
Starting point is 01:09:30 I tried to have a scan on the Thursday night. Like I went through a, I had like all week of stuff in the day and trying to be food off. queue up and some of the little bars and stuff
Starting point is 01:09:44 that probably he told me to have but then we tried to open the stallion after I had it and I done went and I only had a half-be-past her and I don't win in the Calzone as well so I had to take half-and-past her in the Calzone home because I don't know today
Starting point is 01:09:59 when I'd four, I had like 12, 14 chocolate bars something like that like Reese's and Whisper Golds and white twixers and these white hoards chocolate party bros out white daddy milk orio
Starting point is 01:10:14 lad unbelievable is your body like I mean when you're eating so little like I mean the calorie deficit is so low
Starting point is 01:10:21 does it take your your body a while to get used to eat in big amounts again yeah I've been getting in
Starting point is 01:10:26 food comers lad like you see me breche and then I had all yeah my birds ma does them lad
Starting point is 01:10:31 she does a naughty brecky you know where did you say you got that my my birds ma really yeah that is
Starting point is 01:10:39 geez I thought you were in a cafe, that was, that was a serious, serious bread that you got put out there. My God. Yeah, she's done a Cimbaudi as well, pigs and blankets and that on. Oh, my God. I'd like three yorkshire puddings. So you always, everybody knows basically all the people around you know when the void time is over, you're going to tear it up when it comes to food, right? So everybody's kind of around you is helping you do this. Yeah, that is exactly what happens.
Starting point is 01:11:10 be bad, man, feel sorry for me because for like eight weeks they've been eating meals and I'm having like chicken and veg no, so she makes all sorts for me what's left on the list is there anything else that you need to take care of like do you have some go-toes
Starting point is 01:11:25 that you need to get in before you feel satisfied with your post-foy feast? Yeah, they've got like a list but I won't be going to all them because everybody has fucking shut that and I have to get a Mackey's a day before that shuts. Yeah, I mean, what a sign of the times, Paddy?
Starting point is 01:11:39 I mean, if there was one thing that shows me that this is ultra serious, it's the fact that Mackey D's closing down, right? It's only shut one day, you, lad, and they shut on the doors, it's crazy. The Golden Archers, man, it's a serious deal. What's your order? Talk me true, you told me yesterday
Starting point is 01:11:55 that it's about 25 pounds worth. That is a substantial, substantial order. It is, like, they've got all special burgers on, so I'm going to get two of them meals, laden and 20 nuggets and some cheese bites and shit like that. You like to play with the, sides, yeah, the cheese bites, the selects. Are you more of a nugget man or a select man,
Starting point is 01:12:14 if you don't with me asking? Nuggets, obviously, that's getting 20 of them, aren't you? That's some good in it. Would you sit down and eat it all in one go or would be the type of thing you'd have to come back to? No, I reckon I could do that in one go, Mac. He doesn't really fill your up, but does it, to be honest. It's still a lot of volume, though.
Starting point is 01:12:33 You know what I mean? Like, when you're burger after burger, it's a serious... Well, I'm going to get that grand day big, Mac, with bacon and extra cheese. Large one of them meals with a milk sheet, then a large one at the other baguards on now, the barbecue chicken, cheese and baking. Large meat with that with a Coke,
Starting point is 01:12:49 20 nuggets, box of them cheese bites, and a double cheeseburger. That is serious, man. That is absolutely serious. Come here, what did you? I saw you kind of, during the week when that event, there was, like, you know, some people were giving out about it, and you kind of came out and you, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:06 you underline the fact that all you fighters want to fight? Like, do you feel like now the event that has, come and gone. People are kind of over it now. Like, you know, it's kind of, do you think it needed to happen to let people see, like, that it was safe for you guys? Did you feel like it was safe while you were doing with? Yeah, it was very safe, you know what I mean? I went on to watch Matt Bonner at one point, and I got told that it couldn't, no, I mean, I had to go back up to the changing room because he couldn't have so many people in there, no what I mean?
Starting point is 01:13:33 I was like, oh, yeah. And, like, through just that, everything was proper, just precaution, precaution. And did you feel, is it freak out at all, like, when you're kind of skin to skin with another bloke, like, you know, with the sweat, everyone's so concerned about distance and stuff like that. Was that ever a worry for you at all? Well, lad, I didn't even get a sweat on, so I couldn't say it. That ensue, it must have felt like that with this blood everywhere. That's what I was thinking.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I was literally watching that fight going, like, I'd say, you know, fair play to you guys, getting in there and doing it. I know you guys want to get in there and earn your money, but he's covered in blood and and Bartow's just on top of him basically for 15 minutes I was like wow that that would that would be playing in my head if I was him like well why did I want to do this you know I know crazy like
Starting point is 01:14:19 that was a mad amount of blood that to be honest I watched it back yesterday and what did you think when you watch yourself like how happy are you with the performance I'm made up no what I mean I thought it was on we was on the FIFA longer than me was he was only on the FIFA like 30 seconds right but you did like I mean I did notice that you did
Starting point is 01:14:38 check all those leg kicks. Like, I mean, you seem to be... It was only, it was only like three minutes long, isn't it? Didn't even realize it was that quick. Two minutes, 51 seconds. Yeah, nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:49 But it's about Mason and Joe, you know, you were telling me you were looking forward to that fight. What did you think? Did you think it delivered? Did you feel it was a good contest up until it was stopped by that big knee? Yeah, it was all right leading up to that point, I mean? But
Starting point is 01:15:03 like, people are saying fight at the Aiden and then it just ended in the fair. I just. Like I said, they respect both of them. I was speaking to both of them before I wished them both looking stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Like that Mason was in my changing room. We both wish each other looking stuff but I just think not even saying, I don't even want to say that on bad about Joe. I don't want anyone making a big fucking deal of it,
Starting point is 01:15:25 but it just looked like he quit to me. Right. And do you feel like, I mean, has there been conversations with Graham about, like, you know, you and Mason will be a huge fight.
Starting point is 01:15:35 That would be a huge fight for Mason's career as well, even though he's the champion right now, there is no bigger fight than you as far as I'm concerned. I mean, do you feel like... That's it, I am the money man when it comes to Kate,
Starting point is 01:15:46 Julius. I want to know how much that he got paid. I want a percentage. Like, is it nearly, like, in your situation now, right, Patty? Like, I mean, as we know,
Starting point is 01:15:57 the UFC have been interested in you for a number of years, and then there's that title. And it's a risky fight. Mason's a very good fighter. You've said it yourself, you know, you have a lot of respect for the guy.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Is it nearly, like, a concern for you? I'm risking a position here if I fight Mason. And Mason must feel the same way, right? Like, I've got the belt. That's usually the golden ticket. Is it a risk for you guys to fight each other and sacrifice the positions you're in right now?
Starting point is 01:16:20 You could say that, yeah. No what I mean? A lot of people would agree with you there. So you wouldn't be surprised if you guys were kind of put on separate trajectories, maybe? Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me at all, to be honest, because I think he's intensity too. Yes, of course. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 01:16:38 if you have the same management company, of course they'll have different plans for both of you. Is that what you kind of see? That's, yeah, that's what I see, life. How is, did you get to speak to Molly at all? I know you were meant to, you were meant to be heading. Yeah, I've been speaking to her, of course, I don't know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:16:53 It's fucking, fucking heavy, in it? Yeah, it is. I don't know, I mean? She's tying the fucking ass off of this. You could have went to 4-0, a big fight, a huge fight for, she's been in such great form.
Starting point is 01:17:05 And, of course, the money as well, right? Like, I mean, that's, that's, That's a huge thing. I know. She needs, she needs pain, Lentz. We were talking to her opponent, Ashley Evan Smith, she had a crazy week,
Starting point is 01:17:16 you know, flying. Yeah, she got on a plane here just to get a plane back, didn't she? Yes,
Starting point is 01:17:21 it's incredible, right? Like, it's just... Molly had a bad week, though, you know, it was swear,
Starting point is 01:17:25 she had a holiday book and then that got canceled on her where she think she made her. And then she changed it to Mexico, and within 24 hours that got canceled on her.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Oh, my God. The fight had been canceled on her. And then she message me asking about this restaurant, this scranga, what's that place called, Pat? And then I sent to the instant. I looked at the incident and said, we have closed for a week.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Oh, my God. And it was just like, oh, they couldn't get any worse. I felt so bad for you. Yeah, it's rough. Do you feel like, I mean, I know, I know, obviously, you're not in the UFC or anything like that, but I feel like, you know, we talked to Jack Shaw last week, and he was meant to be on that card.
Starting point is 01:18:01 And he was like, he does expect the UFC will kind of compensate them in some way, shape or form. I'd like to think so, no one of me, and it'd be terrible if he didn't. Yeah, it would, it would. But I wanted to ask you about something as well. Liverpool, is this season going to actually end? Are you going to get that Premier League title?
Starting point is 01:18:21 Is this a concern of you with a moment? No, I'm not. I'm not, to be honest, I'm not worried at all. The Premier League's with that much money that they need to finish that for all the television, right and stuff. And the Euros is being put back now. so this season's getting finished
Starting point is 01:18:38 even if the Champions League they end up doing one one knockout game in a different country so like the courses and the semis they'll just do them as one off games in a new till ground what are you going to do for entertainment
Starting point is 01:18:54 like I know you're such a huge football fan you're at the stadium most weekends when Liverpool are playing there it's a big part of your life big part of your social sphere right like I mean it's weird me and my brother have just been saying it before you know it's serious when like footies getting
Starting point is 01:19:08 stopped all together and Mackey's is closing yeah they're just they're just too regular everyday things it's traumatising really when you think
Starting point is 01:19:17 about football and McDonald's oh my mate too love a bet lad and all the heads are gone it's nothing to beth on lad's nothing to bet on yeah my friend
Starting point is 01:19:26 works he works at a betting shop he's been sent home for two weeks but he said there's still racing on he still there is still some little bit of racing if you're that desperate to find it
Starting point is 01:19:34 you'll be able everyone's gonna be hooked on the virtual dogs and the virtual horses. Is that what you're going to get into now, yeah? Is that what you're going to try and figure out the algorithm? I got Red Dead Red Dead Redemption ages ago when it come out there. I just didn't even like, I played on it for about three hours.
Starting point is 01:19:53 I forgot the buttons and everything. So if we do, I want to full con. I'm going to just camp up and I has and play that with all my food. That sounds like a good idea, man. It's as good as Annie of heard anyway. Yeah. I haven't completed that lad. That needs completing, lad.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I just camp up and I've had loads of cereal, loads of chocolate. All my stuff out of freezer. My magnums, my Ben and Jerry's. I'm flying. Paddy, it's an absolute pleasure to speak to you, as always. I hope you get your McDonald's. I'm sure it's going to be a fierce cue down there with a closing day. Don't worry, lad.
Starting point is 01:20:28 I'll send you a pitcher when I get this movie. Don't you worry. You're a legend, Paddy. Great to have you back in the win, Collium. And let's hope that we aren't on the sidelines for too long with this whole coronavirus situation, my friend. Sam, you're bad. Hopefully this is all blew over in three months and we can still get June 20th on the go with something in London. Savage.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Hey, Joyers. Thanks so much, Paddy. I'll talk to you soon, man. Always, always a pleasure to speak to Paddy, the Baddy. Great to have him back. 18 months was a long, long time without the Baddy. And even though there was no crowd there, he still gets the party started. it's just a weird it's weird watching patty isn't it walk out um usually place that has the place he even in
Starting point is 01:21:11 liverpool 10,000 people losing their shit and there he comes out with just this corner of here and it was it was mad it was bizarre it was absolutely bizarre to watch on the afters as well then he was like scream and just come fucking mental on the top of the cage and is now that he said i said to him um he was like what was that like celebrating you're doing you two he's there and he's like ah i just went fucking mad anyway he's a goss man gosh man to do. But yeah, it's, that could be the last bit of
Starting point is 01:21:39 MMA for a long, long time, Noel McGrath. That's, like, I mean, for a month at least, would you say? Well, that's going to be the last event we see. Yeah, listen, let's be honest, Pete. He's going to be a couple of months, I think before we get the the depths and the pits of this situation
Starting point is 01:21:57 that's going on, and you're not going to see on the MMA for, maybe Habib, Tony, could be the first, first fighting. That's going to be, relocated. I don't know. Like, listen, but none of us know, but yeah, it's, it's shit times, but fuck it, you know. Like, you know, that
Starting point is 01:22:11 kind of attitude wins us this kind of coverage. Go online and look at some of these people. And this isn't a knock. This is just a fact. The weakest, wimpiest people on earth cover the biggest, baddest sport on earth. Mr. Dana White's
Starting point is 01:22:27 speaking about our profession. He wouldn't say that to my face. You'd be dug out of him? I'd take him down and he'd be it'll be all nile I just oh, yeah, it's one of those ones, isn't it? You're just like, oh, like,
Starting point is 01:22:46 what the fuck possesses him to come out with the shite that he comes out at times? Like, it's, and like, listen, there's going to be nerdy reporters in every sport. There is nerdy reporters in every sport. Do you know what I mean? That's just a fact. Like the sports geeks, computer geeks,
Starting point is 01:23:00 all that sort of shit, right? but Colin, a loss of the media, the wimpiest, weakest people. Like, how many media members do we know that are absolute beasts and their athletes? You know, like, what a stupid, generalising comment to make from Dana White. It's idiotic and idiotic to the highest extreme under the circumstances as well. You know, he's giving us shit for saying the UFC shouldn't be going forward with these events. And I've been very conflicted and I've been deadly honest with people about it, right? But to come out and say that is absolutely fucking stupid.
Starting point is 01:23:32 but in the light of the situation, in light of what's gone in, you know, our friends in Italy, it's just so thoughtless, disrespectful comment to come out of Dana White's mouth. It's appalling.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Do you know what I say to that? I know, I say, listen, the media can talk as most shit as they want. They don't feed families. They don't take care of fucking people. They don't have people that count on them. They don't have people to support.
Starting point is 01:23:55 What do you say to that? Yeah. What the, like what are we? Like some type of bacteria that lives under any tables now? Well, that's it. Like, he's referring to us as the fucking coronavirus.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Like, they don't have people to support. They don't have people that count on them. What the fuck? Yeah, like, it's just mental. It's absolutely crazy. You're talking about it's like, you're a moie puppy reggie or something, you know what I mean? Like we're a defensive dog.
Starting point is 01:24:18 But on the large scale, Pety, that is a massive problem in MMA. You know, a lot of the time, you know, and we've often talked about this. A lot of fighters don't know how to handle the media. And promoters don't out to handle the media. And like Danish should have learned by now, especially him being the most recognisable promoter in mixed martial arts, one of the most recognizable promoters in the world, full stop.
Starting point is 01:24:37 You know, cop on when you're coming out with shit like that in the light of the situation. We always say that a promoter's job is being heard, is getting their head out there? Is this just another thing he's using to generate more headlines? Yeah, because he's nothing else to have headlines about it. To show that UFC are going to be the sport that keeps going, so to speak. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
Starting point is 01:24:59 and I think that's another reason why Dana was so persistent with putting all those fight cards because people are going to be talking regardless and there's no actual fights taking place at the moment so he needs to come out and say something and as they say you know but no no P.R. is bad P.R.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Whatever the fuck what's that. Does that go again? That's saying. Press. No press. Yeah, sorry. No such thing is bad press. Yes, no such thing is bad press there. So that's what Dana's looking at and thinking about. Seriously stupid comments. Like, come on, get a grip. Despite all the criticism of, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:35 UFC trying to be a major sport, so to speak, and then being the only sport that hasn't really made a big gesture until it was absolutely forced on them. As Dana pointed out on ESPN, he says in terms of their reaction to coronavirus, we're doing the right thing as far as medical testing goes on everything. That's all we fucking do. That's nothing new.
Starting point is 01:25:57 We were doing that shit before the, coronavirus. We were taking care of people and making sure that everybody is healthy. Every fight that's with me on the road is getting much better medical than they are at home if they're with me. It means nothing. This is a virus, a worldwide pandemic. It means nothing what you've done in the past. It's here and now, Dana White. That's the bottom line. And you should be dealing what's in front of you, not what's behind you. And that's pretty much it. So here's another one. So we know what happened to Leon, right? Like we were talking about it earlier. So this is what he says like in terms of athletes
Starting point is 01:26:30 the welfare of the athletes. I told our whole roster, if you or your loved ones have any type of situations or anything wrong, call me, I'll do everything in my power to make sure you get taken care of. You were rushing him into a situation where he's going to be away from his family for possibly like half a month
Starting point is 01:26:47 just for going over and fighting on a whim some fucking Indian reservation. Come on, man. Yeah. Contradictions galore there. So Dana White all over made. Listen, we could go on about this all day, but the bottom line is it's Dana White. You know what you're getting half the time with Dana.
Starting point is 01:27:03 And that's... This isn't Moitia Petero, a great feature about this when it began. It was nearly... It came out last week. I think it was the day after we did Eurobash. But he was kind of saying, like, Dana White, people, like say the press are saying,
Starting point is 01:27:18 you know, if every other major sport in the world is being called up, yeah, the UFC should call their events in terms of to try and keep their athletes healthy, to try and you know, being the flag bear of the sport, so to speak, in the mainstream media, just to show that, you know, this is a global situation that they're aware of and they're taking the necessary precautions. Muchiabeta, like obviously is saying that's what journalists are coming at this at, but Dana's
Starting point is 01:27:43 taken as a personal insult. He's taken as if to say like, oh, yeah, like, oh, you're going to tell me what to do where it's not like, no, no, no, like this isn't about you. This is about the world. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's seeing this as a personal attack on him. And, Do you think that's where his mind is at now? That's where he's like, this is happening because he feels as though for his ego he needs to make it happen. No, I don't think it is. And I, yeah, to an extent it is possibly his ego. But it's more I think about him trying to fill that market, that empty market and the sports market.
Starting point is 01:28:14 It goes back to all the things by pay-per-view talk like that because once he's been talked about, the sport's been talked about. It's mixed martial arts. It's UFC. It's the sport that's always got shot on, as we spoke about last week by the mainstream media to a certain extent. Dana has always had that chip on his shoulder. So maybe it's coming from that line of thought. You know, it is an ignorant line of thought to many, including myself. But I think there's sort of a greater plan for Dana White beneath this all.
Starting point is 01:28:43 And I think the plan is to keep the UFC in that mainstream talk at the moment. And I still think he's going to go ahead and try and get this fight on UFC 249. Okay. So ahead of the cage or is for it, there's a lot of controversy. And now we spoke today after the event and we're saying it's actually quite nice, a nice breath of fresh air. Yeah. What way would UFC 2.49 or whatever way it's going to be called, Habib v. Tony.
Starting point is 01:29:10 What way would that be received if it does go ahead? Obviously, when we're talking about UFC, we're talking about again, the flag bearer of the sport in the world. People often think UFC is a sport, not MMA. what are the ramifications of that going ahead would it be a similar reaction in the aftermath than Cage Warriors getting from the MMA community because I feel as though it's not going to be just the MMA community talking about Habe and Tony
Starting point is 01:29:36 it's going to be all that casual interest and what type of criticism will that bring to the take? Can I just, has Cage Warriors really taking that much of a backlash for putting that card on? No, I don't think it has. Oh, definitely in the lead up to it, yeah, I mean several. Since it's happened. No, no, since it's happened, it hasn't. No, I haven't seen anyone losing their show.
Starting point is 01:29:53 shit. Well, that's what I think with the UFC and I mentioned earlier on there, I think they might go ahead and press with this fight card and just do it literally one fight card because I think he's that desperate to put it over the line, that desperate to fill the space, put something in there. And I think it goes,
Starting point is 01:30:09 you know, that would say to me that the UFC are probably being a bit more vigilant if they do one person fight card or just one fight cards. Because you're obviously eliminating the amount of people that are going to be there.
Starting point is 01:30:25 So, you know, that will be the line, I think, they would have to go forward to try and force through this fight. Or they have several venues on the go on the one night and then put one fight there, one fight there, one there. That's a very, very good call. I didn't even think about that. That's an excellent call. And, you know, possibly depending on, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:41 what states clear up and, you know. Well, you don't need a big venue if it's going to be behind closed doors either. You don't, but you have, you know, you have all letic commissions as well, Pete, we have to remember that are banning all, sanctioned martial arts baits in the US you know for suspending them for certain dates like Nevada have at the moment
Starting point is 01:30:59 so I you know realistically if this fight is going to happen it's going to be out to the US but that is a very very good call they could you know do different locations if they can somehow find that and Saudi Arabia has been mentioned as well which I think could be definitely a venue for or Russia but yeah you know that is a call but they're going to have to approach this totally with the safety of their staff and fighters at mind in relation to putting on, as you said, potentially different fights in multiple cities and I think that is the only way
Starting point is 01:31:28 forward to do, obviously, that one fight card. Right now. Let's talk to a man who hopes to be having a conversation with Dana White and his matchmakers. Soon, it's Mr. Mason Jones, a new Cage Warriors Lightweight Champion. Great crack with Mason,
Starting point is 01:31:46 great to talk to him, great to get to know him more. Obviously, a lad with a huge future ahead of him. I feel like he is now the flag bearer for Wales in cage warriors and that's a huge deal because of course Jack Shore having come from that lineage Brett Johns Jack Marshman
Starting point is 01:32:03 John Phillips I mean he is the next guy he is the guy everyone's talking about and I can imagine that an event with him in Cardiff before he gets that big UFC call up would be absolutely tremendous for him and let's hope he gets that UFC veteran he was looking for
Starting point is 01:32:18 a fantastic performance against Shaw and McCalligan a fantastic finish and look, we'll talk to Mason. Mason. We're back in about 20 minutes. We are now joined by the new Cage Warriors lightweight champion, Mason Jones, who grasped the title in Manchester on Friday with a first round finish of Joe McCulligan and had an event like no other. Mason, how are you, first of all? How have the celebrations been? Well, just the introduction sounds amazing to me. Do you know what I mean? I'm over the moon, to be honest. I haven't really, it still haven't sunk in completely.
Starting point is 01:32:52 obviously after everything in it just snowballed but um yeah everything's been amazing so after the fight um cage before he was really didn't want us really sticking around. We were rushed to see a doctor, straight away, rushed back to change rooms, and they were just sort of, like, grab your stuff and make your way out sort of thing. Like, they wanted the minimum people in the venue as possible. So my dad was outside waiting to pick us up.
Starting point is 01:33:15 After I finished, my brother said he literally spear-tagging with my mom onto the sofa, knocked some drinks over and threw everything into the air, and then went running out. So he come and picked us up, and he was waiting outside for us. and everyone was over the moon and they surprised me.
Starting point is 01:33:32 They had booked a yacht for all the coaches and the family. So straight after the fight, they went back and they surprised me there and we had a bit of a yacht party and everyone was celebrating and everyone had a bit too much to drink. Living the holly of yacht parties already, Mason, huh?
Starting point is 01:33:50 I know. It was only me and my coach because I don't drink at all, I don't. I've been two total for like three years and my S&C coach, been tea total for coming up 20-something years. So the two of us was the only ones who wouldn't drink in. So we made sure everyone got home okay.
Starting point is 01:34:07 And then me and my girlfriend had a nice sleep in. And it was just really nice to obviously celebrate my coaches. And my coaches, they were over the moon. They obviously was their first world championship as well. So their first world champions. So they were all over the moon. Yeah. It's just being...
Starting point is 01:34:26 You know, I'm guessing, like, look, we talked about this before the fight. You've been dreaming about this moment for a long, long time. You finally get that belt wrapped around your waist. You're one of the most hyped fighters in the UK and there's no one there in the crowd. Tell me what that feeling's like when this is an amazing moment has just happened and you're looking to celebrate with the crowd, right? And there's just nobody there. What's that like? Well, I kept him with a knee and I remember I sort of like, I didn't expect him to go down. Like, I just caught him flush.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Like, Joe was out. It wasn't a time where he was going to defend. Like, Joe was done. There was nothing there after. So I remember I sort of, like, went to celebrate. And I was just thinking, well, what am I going to do? And then I seen my coach trying to climb over the cage. So I literally just ran over and jumped on them.
Starting point is 01:35:14 And then I'd like snapped his glass, I think. And like the arm on, bend all the arm on his glasses. And then I jumped on where other coaches. And, ah, they didn't mind. all over the moon. But, yeah, it was, it was different, obviously, because I would have liked to have celebrated with, obviously, the crowd and stuff.
Starting point is 01:35:32 But I was just over the moon. And it actually worked out quite better for this one. Like, my, my best friend is really sick at the moment. He's got transverse malice. So he went from being perfectly healthy to paralyze in, like, 12 hours. Like, it was ridiculous. So he's in hospital. He's recovering.
Starting point is 01:35:52 he's got movement. He's been in about five months, I think. He's got movement in his arms and his legs. Now he's starting to come back around, but it's going to be another 12 months before he's back on his feet and stuff. So he was devastated, the fact that the title fight come up
Starting point is 01:36:07 and he wouldn't be able to watch it. So I think, to be honest, this worked out really, really went well for us because even he was gutted, he couldn't miss a fight. Then when he found out he was a title, he was the first person I went to see and he was over the moon for me,
Starting point is 01:36:20 but he was really, really gutted. So the fact that no one else was allowed to see it sort of made it better. And after the fight, I did an interview and sort of told everyone that obviously the fight was for him and that
Starting point is 01:36:34 that I was scared he wasn't there and that hopefully if June goes ahead we could sort it out and get him sort of front row seats, Graham will sort it out. I know he worked. There's no problem there. And as soon as I finished and the doctor had finished me, I give him a call and sort of he was crying
Starting point is 01:36:51 on the phone. He was over the moon for me. So it was sort of the best for a bad situation and I think obviously if the rest of the boys would have been there watching and he wouldn't have, I think he would have upset him more than anything else. So it all come together and a sort of strange situation but it worked
Starting point is 01:37:07 well. So you don't feel deflated by the situation or anything like that. It sounds like you're pretty content and can I just say how selfless of you to be thinking of your friend in this moment where you've you've been chasing something for a long, time and you get it and he's the first person you think of I think that's incredibly
Starting point is 01:37:24 Abunroll so fair play to you for that Mason well the thing is with me like the belt is good but like I was looking forward to the fight like I can't wait to throw down with Joe because I knew Joe was game so I knew it was going to be an aggressive fight I knew he was going to be exciting and then like my mom and dad said me after afterwards they said if that had gone on for another round they said it would have been probably like one of the most exciting fights because the two of us were just not willing to back up and um Like, I was smart with my game plan. I knew exactly what I needed to do.
Starting point is 01:37:54 And I finished it. But as soon as, like, I clipped him and as soon as he was the rest stepped in, it was sort of, it's sort of like a deflation for me. I sort of, like, I have to switch on and think, what am I going to say? Like, I remember when Graham was wrapping the belt around my waist. Like, my girlfriend said, you forgot the smile. And it was like, I was so happy. But it's like, I need to remember what I need to say now.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Try to make sure that you phrase everything the right way. And that's just the way I look at things. It's always on the next thing. And now I just can't. wait for all this to die down so I get back in the gym and hopefully everyone to be when everything gets back to normal and then they're going sick anymore we can saw out June and get a first defense on the cards because I just want to get back fighting already. You mentioned the fight. It was absolutely tremendous fight. You and Joe, I loved it for as long
Starting point is 01:38:40 as it was going as you said. Yeah, it would have been great about it continued. Obviously you caught him with that beautiful knee. But it was a fantastic fight to watch. I mean, has McCulligan earned your respect after being in there with him? Oh yeah, any man who steps foot in that cage, it ends my respect. It doesn't matter what level it is. It doesn't matter whether it's UFC cage or it is or whether it's a small show. If you step in that cage and you fight someone, then you earn tremendous respect for me. But for Joe to take a fight on short notice against someone like me, like people have
Starting point is 01:39:12 been turning me down. Like I've been rejected. I wonder why, Mason, your former professional boxer are black belt in judo, black belt in juutsu. It's terrifying. It's a terrifying ordeal. And I love a scrap. I mean, oh, why are people turning down fights with Mason Jones? I think I can think of a few things.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Yeah. But, yeah, so much respect for him. And he was obviously game for it and he was strong. Like, I tried moving him a few times. Not so much like I tried taking him down, but more so I just wanted the game and stared on his feet. Gares weight and moving and just stopping from counter attacking while I worked his legs. Like my old game plan was to go in. It was to smash his front leg as much as possible.
Starting point is 01:39:49 get him slowing down so that he plants his feet more. After his fights, I noticed that as soon as he starts taking shots on the legs, he slows down. And as soon as he can slow down, I'll control the movement. And like I knew that that would have been the end for him. And like leading up to it, if you watch the fight back, I hit him with the leg kick just before. And that hurt him.
Starting point is 01:40:09 And then I caught him with an overhand left. And that was sort of what, when I started pressing on then, he sort of, you see him look down a little bit. And that was the end of it then. As soon as he took his eyes off off. me. I knew that I always know he's open to have a cuts and knees. So I knew he was going to go in eventually it was just sort of like I wanted to damage him a little bit,
Starting point is 01:40:25 get him in pain, make him stop thinking what's coming, and then throw some wild shots at the size to get him to shell up, and I knew that knee would come through flesh. And like I said, I didn't expect to catch him so clean, because I caught him, it wouldn't it wouldn't as if, it wasn't so much as dropped him
Starting point is 01:40:41 as his legs crumbled underneath him. And like, obviously the follow-ups were more so for the ref to see. It wasn't any necessary on my part to obviously be too malicious everything because he was done. So it was just more so show the ref that he's ready that he's done.
Starting point is 01:40:55 And that was the end of that. I got to ask you because there was some criticism for the Kage Warriors event and the lead up to it. Some people were saying, oh, this is unsafe. You're risking the fighters' health
Starting point is 01:41:06 by doing this during this corona epidemic. Pandemic, excuse me. I was wondering, could you talk me through it? Did you feel safe throughout the process? As you said there earlier, you know, they weren't letting you guys hang around
Starting point is 01:41:18 and celebrate. They got you straight. out of there, which is obviously big in terms of what they were trying to do for safety. And I know there was extra precautions at the way in. Can you talk me through how you felt and what kind of safety precautions they went through there? Yeah, I got really fed up again, tested, to be honest. It was through my head in.
Starting point is 01:41:38 So we turn up the wayans. Normally, weighing is an open thing. They invite all the fighters to come in and you sort of wait your turn. They limited access to the weight in. So it was only, they did main card at 1 o'clock. Then they did some of the prelims later than I, believe I'm not sure what time because I wasn't there. And then after that, they brought the rest of them in the way.
Starting point is 01:41:58 So they split into two or three groups. At the way ends then, you were, after you weighed in, did your face-to-face, you were your temperature tested, and they checked you for symptoms. You had to be signed off by a doctor. And then they straight away, they asked us to leave the premises. They said, please stay in your hotel rooms. We don't want you wandering around Manchester. We prefer to stay in.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Obviously, we can't enforce that, but please do not leave. There's a bus to collect you at this time. We don't want you going anywhere else, and I saw it. I went to met my family. We went straight from the car, straight to their apartment. So we said we'd meet them there. It wouldn't be a problem, and they were okay with that as long as they said, look, just don't go wandering around, make sure you're confined.
Starting point is 01:42:40 We went from straight to the venue. I had to be there for 4 o'clock for the meeting. they do a pre-fight meeting every time so they brought us there we had the sort of the chat of Graham about everything was going on and he said listen he said there's a black curtain around the cage you can all go see now he said when the fight start
Starting point is 01:42:59 he said you stay in your change rooms he said if we see anywhere around there he said you'll be banned from a cage-wise show he said you're not to come down he said no one's to watch he said no one's allowed in he said all I want to see on that night he said is the corner crew and our team he said anywhere else he said and literally He said you'll be banned off cage warriors.
Starting point is 01:43:16 He said, it's no joke in Matt. He said you stay away. As soon as the speech was done, me, myself, and my coaches, all had to be tested for symptoms again. And then when we signed off by the doctor, and then they said, look, you can, main card, you can, if there's cars outside, you can go, he said, and then you have to be back for 7 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:43:40 So when we come back at 7 o'clock, there's a security guards on the gate, making sure that there was no one getting into the anywhere near the venue without your name on on a sheet. Then to get into the venue, there was security ticking us all off. So myself, my coaches, all had to get ticked off and get bans before we could come into premises. And then we was escorted. We were allowed to wander on your own, escorted straight up your change rooms and told you're not leaving until you fight. And then obviously as soon as you fight, we were escorted out pretty much.
Starting point is 01:44:07 That sounds like a really unique experience more than anything. Wow. Well, it was quite military the way they did everything. And I personally can't think of any other way. They could have made it safer. We was limited contact with everyone. There was no, you wouldn't allow to wander in. Anyway, you wouldn't allow to watch the fight so much as they wanted to keep you separated.
Starting point is 01:44:28 And obviously, with the different change rooms and stuff, they limited contact as much as possible. And after the fight, they obviously give us our medals checks, and they paid us some money. and then they asked us to leave. So I was over the moon with the way it was run. It was a different environment than obviously most anime shows, but it was a good experience for me.
Starting point is 01:44:51 I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed my walkout. I enjoyed the fight and obviously I enjoyed the celebrations. And you're feeling good now, Mason? All good, help boys? I haven't got bruise on me. Nice change. No bruises, no.
Starting point is 01:45:06 I had a bit of a limba afterwards just from where I was dropping the right leg two times. I'm sure I caught something bony of his, so I don't know whether I clash in as him or caught his knee, but I had a little bit of blood under my shin, but that was literally, I think, by the time we got back, and it's time I moved my leg run again. It was all moving nice and smoothly,
Starting point is 01:45:23 so it's probably, apart from the Desmey fight, this is probably the best I felt afterwards, but then that's sort of my style for the higher level opposition I have, the better I fight. So, like, the Desmey fight, the Joe fight, They've been two of my easiest fights and they've been so, I would say, they're two of the hardest opponents I fought. And they're both the toughest. And it just sort of seems to be like the, I've always been the same.
Starting point is 01:45:49 So the better opposition I fight, the better I perform. Whereas like the Alexi fight, I come up with two catches because, like, I treated him as a really tough opponent. And I come in. And when I started landing on him and I was blocking his shots and felt his power and realized that he didn't really have as much, I started stepping into trade with him more, more rather than staying clean and picking him up and moving like I did with a Desmey sort of thing. I started taking a few to give a few because I had no respect for his power. And then obviously that's how he went up cut. But with Joe, I knew how dangerous Joe was.
Starting point is 01:46:19 So I made sure I stick clean, stick and clean. Everything he was throwing out. Apart from me, through a lovely left hook into a right leg kick, nothing else really landed. Like everything was sort of off the guard or it was coming around the sides and everything was tucked in against the gloves. So everything felt perfect, to be honest. Like I was a bit slow starting, but I was happy with a pitch. ace because I knew that I still hadn't pushed it as hard as I could. Like I knew I could have pushed it up levels and I was like by the time I finished I wasn't
Starting point is 01:46:46 even sweating. Yeah, it was incredible. Yeah. But I mean, in terms of your health and in terms of like the coronavirus symptoms, none of that. Nothing. No, nothing at all. It's still nothing yet. Great.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Well, it's four days since. So, I mean, that's when they said it's going to show up, right? So that's all very promising signs, my friend. Yeah, promising. It's perfect, to be honest. And I'm just so happy Cage Roy's, man. should go ahead and like I said the way they did it was exemplary you know what what this is one thing that we're thinking about and we have patty pimble on the show this week he was talking about you
Starting point is 01:47:20 earlier and he was saying you know he taught you had a brilliant performance so it was a great fight and but he said he wouldn't be too sure that you guys will be the next championship fight he said as both of you guys are with intensity management he said it might not be what they will go for next obviously graham at the helm of that management promotion at the management company as well what you think? Are you even kind of looking to the next step or you're just enjoying what's happened at the moment? I'm always looking to the next step and like I said, I'm hoping I can defend in June. Who they are against is obviously out of my hands. If they offer me, Paddy, I'd sign. I would love to fight an ex-UFC guy to be honest. Because obviously it's the same situation Jay was in when
Starting point is 01:48:01 I was coming through. Like you can fight the next Intender or you can fight an ex-UFC guy. Like you're going to pick an ex-UFC guy because eventually like by the end of this year, I want to be in UFC. That's my game plan. That's my goal is to be in UFC. Whether it is the end of this year, whether it's next year, like it doesn't mean I'm not going to fight because I'll fight as many times they can get me on a card. I'll fight June.
Starting point is 01:48:22 I'll fight September. And I'll fight a game before the end of the year if I can. But obviously, I have to be looking through the future as well. And I'd love to fight a vet and obviously get signed. And then I'd love to fight a vet in Cardiff or a challenger in Cardiff. and then fight again and then go. Whatever happens is just obviously UFC is there now where I've won the belt. I'm happy to defend, but I do want to start looking for bigger things.
Starting point is 01:48:51 It's the statement you need, right? Like, I mean, historically, you get the Cage Warrior's belt. The only thing you can do to put yourself in the shop window more so than that is beat a guy that's already made it to those big leads. Is that the way you were seeing it? That's the statement that will take you that little bit closer to that contract? Definitely. And obviously, the way I fight, I always go in to make an impression. I always go for an exciting fight. I'm not a type of guy. Like I said, I've got the judo black belt. I've got the BDJ back in. I'm happy with my submission skills. Like, I'm more than happy the way I can submit people.
Starting point is 01:49:24 So if I wanted to, I could have like obviously con in, shot on Joe taking him down. Like I've no surprises in my mind if I wanted to. I've got to taken him down. And I could have like pushed a submission. But I'm happy. happy to make it exciting and I love a good scrap and I knew Joe was game so I think taking him down would have taken it away from the fight and I think Joe felt the same way as I did like obviously he could have come out and could have tried to take me down and go in for the grind and try and grind out five rounds or he could have done where he did and come out and stood toe to toe me and push all over people and I think that's why I'm UFC material
Starting point is 01:50:03 because I'll go out there and I'll always aim to put on an entertaining show and like I'd love to be fighting the Habibes, the Gachis, the obviously the barbosas of the world, do I mean? They're the type of guys of the Tony Ferguson's. I'd love to tear it up with. Wow, yes, yes, a big future. Definitely ahead of you, Mason Jones.
Starting point is 01:50:22 There's absolutely no doubt about that. I have one question actually left. I wanted to ask you about your girlfriend's a martial artist too, right? Is it right that she's represent the UK at Taekwondo or something like this? Or do I have that wrong? No, no. She's very, very good at Taekwondo. So she fought on Olympic style taekwondo
Starting point is 01:50:40 And she fought everywhere So she got a Commonwealth bronze Commouth Games bronze medalist She should have been made to the final In the last 10 seconds She got clipped and lost on points So it was literally final few seconds She got caught
Starting point is 01:50:56 And like she always said Also it's the Commonwealth Games They're happiest and her saddest memories Because she should have been in the final Fighting for her gold And she would have had a class fight with a golden meddlist and instead she made a mistake and got clipped. But she's insane.
Starting point is 01:51:13 The level she thought, she's done Olympic qualifiers. Like, she won an Olympic qualifier. She was really young when she won that and all sorts. But she was going well. She was training in Not a None with the British team. And then she had a sort of a bit of a bad turn. Mentally, a medal history was a bit.
Starting point is 01:51:30 And she'd come home for a bit. And she hasn't actually gone back to competing yet. So whether she goes back to Taekwondo or she's been training a lot of Thai with me so she's on board taking a Thai fight instead so she's definitely interested and like I said after that fight the first thing she said to me
Starting point is 01:51:47 was how embarrassing my kicking was in the fight so I added it in the next straight away she said didn't throw a spin hot kick or a back kick I was like it's supposed to be a back kick but my range is a little bit off she was like it was embarrassing she was like you're embarrassing me
Starting point is 01:52:00 I was like I just won a world title but I'm embarrassing you so I'll She said this after this fight yeah yeah After the joke, I threw a bat kick, and it was literally the range was out. It was terrible. My timing was out. My kicking out, showing a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:52:14 And she was like, first thing she said to me, she was like, oh, congratulations, awesome performance. She was like, but the kick in was embarrassing. I was like, oh, I'm sorry. That's brilliant. So she's definitely the better kicker of the couple, you'd say. Oh, she's knocked up more people than I have. She's knocked up more people than I have. That's incredible.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Like the way she kicks. And she is a monster. Her name's Madsen Davis. Check up on YouTube. Madison Davis, did you say? Madison Davis, so M-A-D-D. Yeah, Madison with two D-Ds and then Davis, D-A-V-I-E-S. That is so cool, man.
Starting point is 01:52:46 And how long have you guys been together? I'd say that's an incredibly competitive relationship. Yeah, we've been together two years. But she helps me with my kicking a lot. And like I said, I've helped her up to the tie a bit. But it's more so I'm just, it's just adapting her style. She's definitely far-headed me on the kicking side of things. and it really helps.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Do I mean, like, I'm hypercritical to myself, and I love it when people are hypercritical to me, because there's no point saying, oh, you did this good and this good, because I already know I did that well. But when people say, law, you could have done this better, then that helps me,
Starting point is 01:53:17 and that's where I've always been. I always want to be better than I can be next. So as soon as you get back in the gym, now my coaches are obviously going to have a lot to say and a lot of things to pick on, and I really can't wait to get back. And, again, just be a better fighter, and looking forward to get back out,
Starting point is 01:53:31 team Alpha Mail as well and get some rounds in. I'm going to get some boxing sparring him with my friend from Don't St. Joe's. He's got another fight coming up soon. So I guess some rounds in with him and help him towards his next fight. And I just really can't wait to get back training. Well, Mason, it's been an absolute pleasure. I hope you stop embarrassing your girlfriend soon by winning these world titles. You've got to stop that stuff.
Starting point is 01:53:55 But, no, amazing. And I hope you and your family are very safe during these troublesome times, my friend. Yeah, obviously we're in isolation now So I'll stay away from everyone And hopefully this will all get sorted out soon So I can get back training But let's see you can just stay in guys get all sorted The quicker everyone starts staying in
Starting point is 01:54:15 Then the quicker they'll all get cleaned up So there's no point complaining If people are still going out being unsafe So just stay in, get sorted And we can all get back to our lives We can all practice our spinning back kicks Yeah I hope so
Starting point is 01:54:30 I can't deal with it I'll have to leave you a few days then she'll be showing me how to do my spay-nut kicks my back kicks and back to it. Brilliant Mason. Talk to you soon, mate. Congratulations, champ. Thanks, Pete. All the back.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Speak for soon. She's Pete Zee. Bye. Great to hear from Mason Jones. Let's hope he stops embarrassing his girlfriend with those terrible kicks. Come on, Mason. You're only a world champion after all, but great, great crack. Sounds like a fun, unique experience
Starting point is 01:54:58 being crowned champion in front of a crowd of six people. people. Listen, I don't think he'll care when he gets that UFC contract down the line. And, you know, Joe Duffy's been talking to Mason about me for quite some time. And, you know, I think they trained a little bit together in Wales. So, yeah, what a talent, what an athlete. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:22 He said to me at one point there, he goes, I don't know why. It's just I've had, I've had it very difficult to get people to fight me. And I'm like, well, you're 24, a former pro boxer, a black belt judo. I mean, what's the shock here? Where are these questions going from? I know where it's going from. But what's this? We are going to be joined by one of the European greats, Noel McGrath.
Starting point is 01:55:46 Wow, who? Tell me, quick. You're not going to believe it. It's the fight that we were raving about just two weeks ago was one of the greatest fights, if not the greatest fight we'd ever seen in the Octagon. it is not on the European great and the strawweight great. Joanna Janjeechik. Wow. And after Colby earlier on in the day now, we have Joanna.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Unbelievable. Two loving teammates, eh? Yeah. Well, Joanna, I don't know what she's going to want to get into that much, but I cannot wait to pick her brain after that amazing fight with Wiley Zhang. Obviously, a lot's been made of who you thought won. Darren Till was obviously on the podcast two weeks ago waxing lyrical
Starting point is 01:56:31 saying both Zhang and you and Jacek should be given 5 million each you think it's one of the greatest fights of all time too if I'm not mistaken normally It's right up there in my You know it'll have to be in my top Four or five fights without question Just a just a battle
Starting point is 01:56:49 And I think more impressively was the actual Just technique and scale of both ladies And I think it took women's mixed martial starts a new level. So, like, if you look that fight again, and I have since, it's just, it's hands down easily the greatest women's mixed martial arts contest of all time
Starting point is 01:57:06 and right up there in the sport as a whole too. So yeah, incredible stuff from both ladies. Well, here she comes. Once again, she has returned to Eurobash, the great, the incomparable. Yowanna Janjacheck, we'll be back to you guys in about 20 minutes. And once again,
Starting point is 01:57:24 we are joined by one of the greatest of all time, Joani and Jacek, who just had a fantastic performance that stole all the headlines at UFC 248. We have been dying to speak to Joanna. Of course, the European fans are praising her amazing efforts. Joanna, first of all, how are you? And thank you so much for joining us again. Oh, man, I'm very good. Happy to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:57:48 I love Irish people. You know it. Yes. I would marry an Irish guy because of the accent, and so many of you know this. But no, I'm joking. I'm feeling great, man. I'm feeling great, happy blast. Happy to be home, you know, after spending nine long weeks.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Actually, 11 long weeks in the States. I'm happy to be here with my family, you know. Yes, of course. And how is the family? Is everyone holding up well? Of course, the coronavirus pandemic is gripping the universe now. How are you guys? We are good. We are good. You know, we stay home. I only see my sister who lives next to me. Once in a while I see my family. I go to my parents, I bring them food. You know, we're trying to stay home and we should stay home, but we should take care of our health immune system. You know, it's good to go outside for a walk, for a run. I did 10 kilometers today, but people are going crazy, you know. Even if you go to the store, there are sections, you know, but people, they like to stay
Starting point is 01:58:55 next to each other. They jump on your bag. They talk to each other. No, put mask, wear masks. Wear masks. Don't talk to each other. Keep like a meter away, you know? And like, it shouldn't be like this, that you go out and you talk to your neighbors. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:59:10 You know, it's good to like cover your, cover your face, you know. Try to don't talk to people. Don't spit on that. You know, that's the thing. Yes, we need to make an effort. Isn't that right? We aren't to change. Yeah, but it's good to go outside, you know. But of course,
Starting point is 01:59:25 only if you have to go and do things you have to do and come back home, you know, go back home. Absolutely. Yohan, I have to ask about this fight because the outpouring of emotion from the MMA community has been unbelievable,
Starting point is 01:59:42 but it was also well-deserved. One of the greatest fights ever, I think everybody agrees. Have you had a chance to watch it back yet? No, not really. Not really. Nike Brown. who is my coach, my friend, my family,
Starting point is 01:59:57 Cattle Cubis, my second head coach, they watch this fire, you know. But me not, not yet. And, you know, since after the fire, I feel like I'm in the box, you know. I'm proud of myself. I'm proud of my gym, my team, Don Lambert, ATT nation, my coaches,
Starting point is 02:00:17 my friends, family, my management, my sponsors, my friends. But, man, I'm... I'm by myself, you know. I cut myself from the media. I'm responding to my friends. And it's really great to hear that it was one of the best fights, that I'm someone's favorite, you know.
Starting point is 02:00:39 But at the end... Lots of people's favorites, Joanna. But at the end, I didn't make it. I didn't make it, you know? I know it was close and some people were saying I won. But at the end, I don't have the bad. But there is second... of it, you know. It's not only about
Starting point is 02:00:56 having the belt physically. I don't care about this anymore, you know. Of course, I want to and I'm hungry, but I'm happy the way I show up, you know, because I put on hell of a work for nine weeks in ATT. Before that, I was training in Poland. And
Starting point is 02:01:13 the thing is that before every fight, since I remember, before the last step to the octagon, I was like, they let you shine, you shine. Go there and show them who you are. mother if you win if you lose gold and show them who you are and I put on hell of a performance and hell of a fight with Rijian and I proud of myself but at the end you know I'm
Starting point is 02:01:35 very ambitious person how we say this ambitious yes correct yeah ambitious person and I didn't make it man so yeah my my soul is hurt my heart is hurt and I got I got everything and I appreciate you guys but at the end I didn't make it But I do not blame myself. Are you aware at the end of that 25 minutes, Joanna? Are you aware that this is one of the great fights or is too many things happening? Is it all happening very quickly then? Or do you know?
Starting point is 02:02:08 You know what? Yeah. I'm a fighter for a reason and I was born to do that. And I'm in this spot because of God put me towards this direction. I used to play basketball. But for no reason I had like health issues. When I stopped playing, I didn't, like there was no more health. health issues. And I started training Muay Thai and I became so successful
Starting point is 02:02:28 in MMA. And I'm here because of the reason. I was the champ for a reason. I was the pretendant for a reason. And, you know, it had happened for a reason and I felt I feel like, I felt like I gave my best and
Starting point is 02:02:44 I don't know. I don't know, man. A lot of people there have said they have scored the fight for you. We had Darren Thiel on the show last week. He says both Wai Lee and Yohanna need to be paid $5 million each. This is the greatest fight of all time. And he said, I feel
Starting point is 02:03:00 as though Joanna won this fight. I know it's a very close fight, but did you feel like you did enough when the final bell rang? I couldn't hear you. Did you feel as though you had won the fight when the final bell rang
Starting point is 02:03:19 when it was finished? You know, it happened to me in the second fight with Rose Amayuna not, you know. And when you look at the scorecards, the points, the punches, the landed punches, I won again, but I don't want to say it, you know, I lost the fight and I take it, you know. And there is no excuses. There is no excuses. And, you know, you have to do more to beat the champ. But I felt in the fight, I felt I was questioning myself. I was talking to myself, you know,
Starting point is 02:03:51 in my head, Jay, what can you do better? But I was like, hey, I'm doing everything. everything. I can't. So I did everything I could do, you know. Absolutely. And then the camp, I'm always very distant. I always very focused, very motivated. I know people see these fucking bikini pictures. I don't care. I'm a human. I'm a woman. You know, sometimes I want to go to the pool. I live in Florida, you know. I have pulled 20 minutes, 20 meters from my apartment, you know. So it's a seem to not to go there, you know, but people think that I'm not training men.
Starting point is 02:04:27 I'm a beast. And this camp, I'm just getting older, but this camp I was training more than before. And this is what surprised me, you know. And limits are only in our heads. And if you want to do more, you can do more with every single day. That's why I'm super hype for every single day, you know. I cannot wait for tomorrow's morning because I know I can be better as in human,
Starting point is 02:04:49 as an athlete, as in businesswoman, as in partner, you know, what I mean. And that's the thing. and this camp, like the last camp, I was training 13 times a week, you know, two, three times a day for nine weeks every single day, you know. And I gave everything. I did everything I could. It's to me, you showed the world, you know, so many people, these trolls on the internet, after the first rose fight, you know, they questioned how tough you were.
Starting point is 02:05:22 And then to do this fight, it's exceptional. It's one of the craziest things people have ever seen, how you continued and you were so resilient despite the damage. Does that feel good knowing that you silenced a lot of your doubters with that performance and that amazing show? Yeah, I don't care about the doubters. You know, they can down down to the queen. You know what the point is? Very often when someone is sick or something like, oh, for example, you broke up with your government and your friend's going to come like, I feel you, man, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 02:05:52 No. If he's happy with his wife, he can tell you like, man, I feel you, so sorry. No, you can say, I can try to understand. I'm trying to understand you, my friend. How are you feeling? But you can go and say, like, hey, everything's going to be fine. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:06:07 Yes, yes. So that's the thing. And the doubters, this is what Dana said, about many different things. They always doubt him, the ideas, CSPN, this, that. No superstars more in the EFSI, no this, no that. They don't know what they are talking about. That's the thing. They can talk, but they don't know what they're talking.
Starting point is 02:06:25 about how they can doubt me that oh you're posting these bikini pictures you're not going to win you didn't win because you posted bikini pictures motherfucker you didn't know that I was training 13 times a week probably in my short life I did more trainings than you and your fucking whole family absolutely 100%
Starting point is 02:06:42 this is all true and I'm like this the doctors and they can doubt me you know but show me another female athlete or are you better than me? No you are not better than me show me another female athlete with that big legacy, you know?
Starting point is 02:06:57 Yes, of course. No, absolutely. And I think we all know that you're one of the greatest European friends of all time. Can I say it? Can I curse on this podcast? Of course. Oh, please, go ahead. What the fuckie is this?
Starting point is 02:07:10 I don't care about this doctor, you know. Amazing. That was a fantastic. Maybe who can know that what they're talking about, right? What an answer. That was amazing. A lot has been made of your face. updates for your face. People are going crazy. They want updates all the time and it looks
Starting point is 02:07:28 fantastic. We see that you look, you're back to yourself, a lot of the bruising on your face and your chest has gone down. But is that crazy experience for you when you see yourself in the mirror for the first time after the fight? Man, honestly, I know, you know, I'm in fact chicken, I'm in like men's world, you know, but I think there is no sport or job for a girl or for a guy. The world is free. It's 21st century, you know. But, you know, I love to, I'm very clean person, you know, aesthetic. I like to keep it clean, clothing. I like to, you know, I take shower for five times a day.
Starting point is 02:08:07 I'm girly. So I hate myself, you know, when I'm like this, you know. But that's the price we have to pay, you know. That's the point, you know. There is always a worse side of your job, you know, or your perfection. But that's the thing. So I hate it, man, you know. I hate it and I want to take care of my health, you know.
Starting point is 02:08:30 Like being an athlete, like being in the sport, it changes your body, you know, changes your head, your mind, how you look, how you walk, you know. So it costs me lots of sacrificing, you know, changes in my body. But I'm still a woman, you know. I want to be attractive to the guys, you know, and I want to be a mother in the future. So, of course, it's like I always want to take care of my health, but in the EFC we have everything, you know, good health care, and then they are always taking a good care of us, you know.
Starting point is 02:09:04 Yes, and you look fantastic, by the way, Joanna. Your faces heal up fantastically well, I want to say. Oh, thank you so much. No, it's still two bruises, you know, but the sworehead everyone. I was lacking about the meme, the meme, men, men, men, men, men, men. after my fight yeah after my side you know even I cut myself from the syphemy I was laughing oh that's funny you know but I'm telling you guys the next day the swellness from my forehead the swelling from my forehead went down so I couldn't see
Starting point is 02:09:35 on my red eye for like two days and 95% I had a vision in like 5% only in my left eye so it was pretty rough you know yeah yeah but but it is But it is. And, you know, the smelling went down and everything is bad. You feel good? There's no, there's no, there's no way and very serious injuries, lasting injuries. No, no, no, no. I had, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:09:59 I had a, I had a CP, I had the x-ray. I had the ultrasound. I had everything, you know. I went to the plastic surgeon, you know. I went to the plastic surgeon in Poland. I had a small medical procedure on my ear, you know. And, but everything good with my head. I'm good, man.
Starting point is 02:10:17 I'm good. Amazing. Amazing. Healthy. Healthy. Still crazy, but healthy. You, I love the fact that this is Joanna in a nutshell for me. It's only two weeks after the fight. It's one of the greatest fights of all time. As we said earlier, a lot of people are thinking you won. A lot of people think, boy, Lee won, a lot of discussion going on there. And you are already talking about a rematch. I know you're not saying, I want it now straight away, but you're saying you are open to that. That is just such an insight into the mind of a champion. And one of the greats, of course. but is that something that will be on your mind having been in there with wily and having such a fantastic and close fight? Do you think that that rematch will always be brought up now? I don't know, you know, right now I'm going to take a rest. I can go on vacation, you know.
Starting point is 02:11:05 I deserve it. I want to wait for this coronavirus to go away and I will go on a nice vacation, you know. And, you know, I'm a businesswoman as well, you know, and I'm always like this. I've been working guys since I was eight years old. So I always work in you know. I know some people they they jealous of what I approach in my life, you know. But five years ago, I was broken and poor care, you know. But now I run businesses. I invest in real estate. I have so many ideas, you know, and I want to do more. I study new studies, you know. People don't know this. You know, I graduated two different studies. Eight years ago, I started new studies this year. I want to study MBA and maybe the future be a minister of the sport, you know. But, you know, I have so many ideas. I was a little girl, you know. And some athletes, they like to go home, sleep. I don't sleep, you know.
Starting point is 02:11:54 My big rival is the time, you know, because it's running. You can't stop the time, you know. That's the thing. But right now I want to read. Be focus on my stuff and do some stuff, you know. Enjoy the life, you know. Enjoy the life. Drink some wine.
Starting point is 02:12:11 Bring some vodka. Go some parties. Meet some nice guy and, you know, enjoy the family, you know. That's the thing, you know. because man because i'm an ambassador of a fighter's cancer foundation and very often i talk to the parents to the kids i meet them don't make money my time my love and very often we talk we talk and i'm like guys there when when someone is sick has a cancer not only the person who has a cancer is sick the whole family is sick same with me you know of course you can't compare the cancer of sickness but the thing
Starting point is 02:12:48 if I go to the state, if I train them, my parents, my friends, my family, they worry about me, you know. They pay the price as well. I'm on diet. I can do this. I can do that. You know, every precision, every job, every in this, every situation in our life required something different from us, you know, what I mean. So now is the time for my family because I would not be here without them, you know.
Starting point is 02:13:12 Yes, absolutely. Well said, Joanna. I wanted to ask you about this because I know it's been a lot of the time. of controversy about this in the gym and whatnot, but... Do you like meatballs? I love meatballs. They're my favorite. So catch a playing tomorrow because right now I'm like digging into this meat, you know, putting all season in preparing meatballs.
Starting point is 02:13:31 You're making this while you're talking to us? I love balls. Amazing. They sound beautiful. They sound beautiful. After putting on such an amazing display as you did, and then to have your teammate Colby Covington come out and talk the way he is, Is that hurtful to you or do you see this as just being a part of his act?
Starting point is 02:13:54 It's part of his act. He's not very polite and smart guy. So he doesn't know what to do, you know, and he needs another people to make himself big. So I don't want to talk about this guy, you know. But I can tell you guys that that's a shame for us, you know. That's a shame that he's talking crap like this, you know. It's all ugly things, you know. he's a dirty guy
Starting point is 02:14:20 and I don't want to talk about I don't want to talk about that because he's lying that guy is lying he's such a big liar and I just don't want to talk with I don't want to waste the time to talk about him, you know?
Starting point is 02:14:33 Absolutely, I respect that Joanna and thank you for answering the question but from that to James Arthur I saw this James Arthur playing a gig on Instagram and he shouts you out how incredible is that Man, I love him, you know, and I love music, all kinds of music, but people don't know I'm very emotional, and I'm very sensitive, and I love all kinds of music, but I'm a big fan of James Harper.
Starting point is 02:14:59 So many, you know guys, that my walkout song in Tampa was back from the edge, and every song is very important to me, you know, and I love James Archer, and he is supposed to play in Poland in January, and I was, like, super sad because I was, doing my camp in Florida, but he got sick so he didn't he didn't, he didn't make it, so I'm very happy that I got a shout out you know, like a audience, but I cannot wait to
Starting point is 02:15:34 visit him and watch him listen to his music life, you know, and I love his lyrics, he's very smart and wish him all the best. I think he was a bit of a fun song. I think he was a bit of a fan girl, no? I think he went a bit crazy when he saw that you were watching his video.
Starting point is 02:15:51 He was like, I can't believe this. And he said that you won the fight. I mean, that guy, I think, are you guys friends? Do you know him? No, you know what? One day, I was like, I texted him before Pent Pai, you know? I was like, man, I'm gonna tell you because I want like, back from the edge, be my
Starting point is 02:16:12 workout songs. And he was like, you're fucking kidding me. I'm big fan. I'm like, Oh, my God. No, no, no. Let me make it straight. I'm a fan. Not you. You my idol, okay?
Starting point is 02:16:22 Let's make it straight and keep this way, you know? And we started, like, talking, supporting each other, you know? And I'm very happy for him, you know. And I love people like this. I went to Lady Gaga's concert last time, and she's such a powerful. But, you know, music, sport, it's all the same. It doesn't matter if you want to be a doctor. If you want to be a lawyer, if he's a lawyer,
Starting point is 02:16:40 if you want to be a successful businesswoman or athlete or singer, it's all the same. discipline, sacrificing yourself, hard work, believing. You have to believe in yourself, you know. Absolutely, Joanna. It's been a pleasure speaking to you. I'm just wondering, you know, you're already told us that you're doing 10K runs still. No days are for you, of course. But I'm wondering, you know, you said you want to take a holiday.
Starting point is 02:17:04 Because I'm fat, you know, I'm eating in a good. Not a kid status, you know. No, I'm good. I'm good. You know, I'm still like, my body still. like swollen, you know, this trip and everything, you know. And, you know, I have a big bruise.
Starting point is 02:17:22 The bruise from my forehead went down, so my neck and, and, like, chest is bruised. And it's still hurting a little bit, but it's fine, you know. It's fine. It's fine. You think we could see you foy? So I need to do some exercises. Do you think we could see you foyd this year again,
Starting point is 02:17:40 or do you think we should wait even to maybe 20-21? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. I don't know. Well, I hope you have a wonderful holiday. Right now. I need to. Yeah. I need to. I need to. I just want to rest. You know, thing about the fight. Like I said, I live in the bubble, you know. I'm still living in the bubble after the fight and I feel great. I'm more calm, more with myself.
Starting point is 02:18:08 You know what I mean? I have to digest this, you know. Yes. But I'm happy. I'm happy how I show up. I'm happy I gave you this. you know and it's all about winning in your life you know it's all about learning in your life and i'm very happy i i learned a lot that's it you know well joanna you're a true legend of the sport you're one of the greatest of all time i can't thank you enough for coming on the show once again and speaking to us and i promise you whenever you're saying to people like this any time anytime man if there is going to be show in dublin in july yeah in august august 15th
Starting point is 02:18:46 August, I'm coming. Hey, my birthday, August 18. Wow. We're going to have a big party in that bit. Yes, you absolutely should. We should definitely make this happen. I'm coming, man. I'm coming. See you then, Joanna. All the best. Thank you so much. Thank you so much to the great Yohanna and Jacek. What a surprise that was to have one of the greats call us up and get it done after one of the great fights of all time with Wiley Zang.
Starting point is 02:19:12 Great to hear that her face is recovering. and she is looking forward to some vacationing time. And, you know, obviously when this coronavirus finally leaves us, that is, she's looking to get away. And look, don't know if we'll be this year when we see her, she isn't really sure, but fantastic to talk to her after such an iconic fight. How are you passing the time in corona isolation, my friend? Jesus, yeah, like, I've actually been really busy. I swear to God, I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 02:19:44 You know, obviously. All right, we don't care. We're trying to give people alternatives what they can do at home here. So if it's like, look up. Jesus Christ. Okay. Fucking hell,
Starting point is 02:19:52 take me fucking head off why don't you. Yeah, no, just fucking literally on Amazon, equipment, review all that sort of shit at the moment and a lot of that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 02:20:02 And the drone, I've been whacking up my drone a little bit creeping around with that. That looks terribly. I look unbelievable. I got it up now. I'm not probably not supposed to be saying this, but I got it up like 600.
Starting point is 02:20:14 feet there yesterday in the air it was like a duty hit a fucking airplane so they go up high it's it's actually Wi-Fi base so it's actually interesting right I was saying this to fill the other night that it just shows you how many people are working from home
Starting point is 02:20:30 the signal hasn't been great on it the last few days and that's due to the amount of people using the Wi-Fi in the area so it's fascinating it was gone 150 feet like nothing there the other day it's settled down a little bit now but it just shows you the many people working from home with this situation but doing a bit of that
Starting point is 02:20:44 and literally head stuck in. I think it was 5am by the time I got sleep last night. Just doing stuff online. And just I think everyone, like if they want to do something, now's a fucking great time to start a vlog, doing that sort of shit. Keep yourself off.
Starting point is 02:20:58 Anything that keeps yourself occupied and you're not thinking about the situation. I think that's very, very important. And, you know, live stream, you can do with a phone, whatever. Start a vlog, doing that sort of shit. I think it's very therapeutic in many ways for people. And that's going to be a major struggle over the coming months
Starting point is 02:21:12 is people being stuck in and getting depressed and things like that. So get out, do what you're going to do. Anything you wanted to do in the past, why not do it now if you can do it in a remote situation and set up? The fuck, you know what I mean? You've got to be positive, Pete.
Starting point is 02:21:25 You've got to be positive. You just said talking about depression, mate. Like, what are you talking about? That's what I'm saying. I'm trying to help people out here, be, you know, be positive. And I might start doing a few tech videos as well. Wow.
Starting point is 02:21:35 Well, this is all riveting stuff. Yeah, it is. Fuck you. Well, what the fuck are you saying? You're not contribute out in your fucking gig, I guess. So shut the fuck up. I went online on Amazon. Shut the fuck.
Starting point is 02:21:47 Jesus Christ. I want to know. Because a few of my friends have said Tinder's turned into a fucking Oh, it's a war zone. Dumpster for her. Oh, yeah. It's terrible. I've actually been staying off and I'm scared of it at the moment because
Starting point is 02:22:02 these freakish women. What happens when there is no end product say? There is no date there. That's what you're saying to them straight away. like is there any point that's actually messaging because we're not going to see each other
Starting point is 02:22:15 for four months. That's it like so you're like, it's been definitely a little bit slower on the contact front and messages being replied 100% so yeah, listen,
Starting point is 02:22:26 shit happens and I think this is obviously the most important thing at the moment but I think there's going to be a lot of corona babies born so that's going to be interesting. Listen, I'm sure there's people going up to other people's houses
Starting point is 02:22:37 straight off the bat now with the frustrations and things like that of single people. just rubbing their boots off their windows or whatever just use protection do you have you seen this
Starting point is 02:22:47 this amazing Tiger King on Netflix I've watched a little bit of it I watched oh my god I watched four episodes of it last night is it about the same guy is it he's a con man is he
Starting point is 02:22:57 no no there's loads of them he's got to watch it man it's unbelievable I've never seen such a wild bunch of freaks like I thought the MMA media was the wimpiest and the weirdest but my god well these guys aren't wimps that's terrible of me to say
Starting point is 02:23:11 Of course, there are alpha males who surround themselves with big cats. Perish the thought of me crushing that illusion on them. But you got to check that out. Have you been drinking a lot? Because I feel like I've been drinking a lot. Like, you know, as in, there's nothing else to do. And I keep drinking. That's all I can.
Starting point is 02:23:30 To be honest, I haven't. I don't think I've drank. Like, I had a couple of cans every sort of night. Yeah, well, that's still drinking. Yeah, I know. But it's not like the massive binge drinking. you'd have on a Friday night where you'd sink 20 points. So I'm definitely down on my overall intake of points 100%.
Starting point is 02:23:46 Yeah, but it's the daily, the reoccurring drinking, that's the problem. Yeah, no, like, yeah, a couple of nights I have, yeah, nothing out of the ordinary. But I'd say give that another week now and I'll be, I'll probably be lying in my garden at fucking 3am in the morning, smashed, you know what I mean? Like, so the longer this goes on and obviously it's going to go on for a while, I probably, the more of an alcoholic I'll further become. You should get a dog. they're great
Starting point is 02:24:10 it's the best thing about this whole this whole thing is just everyone being at home did you start that dog trend on Twitter was that you no it was actually Gavin Casey all right from the 42
Starting point is 02:24:23 yeah so he gets on to to miss Casey she puts out Simba and then she tagged me so I did it and then tagged a few people all right okay I didn't know what the fuck was going on
Starting point is 02:24:35 I was there I'm obviously happy to do anything for Red I'm telling you, I should get a dog because I'm sure it would be a way to strike up conversation
Starting point is 02:24:46 with singletons you see down in the park but obviously that would have to wait for after the social distancing thing gets done. It's going to be a long time before we're stopping these social distancing, Peter.
Starting point is 02:24:59 So no. Listen, I hardly feed myself no mind a fucking dog but you know what I'm going to the shop and I come back with fucking 12 cans of beer and no food.
Starting point is 02:25:10 Did you wear? Did you get your mammy a card yesterday from Wednesday? I tell you what I did. No, I don't fuck those cards and shit like that. The better thing to do was just buy them, show them love. I'm joking. No, I brought her, I sent a takeaway down. Chicken Wings, what's called them?
Starting point is 02:25:27 Not Rebecca. Elfin and Castle, Chicken Wings. Order them in. Oh, yeah? Yeah. That's a good deal. 38 euro. It's better than a card.
Starting point is 02:25:36 So there you go. 30 euro? Yeah, two portions sent them down. mom and dad so oh that's legendary you see I can't get that delivered I'm very jealous that you can get that well I'll tell you that's the interesting thing
Starting point is 02:25:47 checking your delivery you can get way more stuff delivered now because all the restaurants obviously people aren't going out to the restaurant so a load of them are actually delivering and they're delivering further than they normally deliver I've had got an Indian there a couple of nights ago as well I think it was last Monday actually
Starting point is 02:26:01 and they never used to deliver up here until the coronavirus struck so it just shows you that people aren't going out and they're struggling so They're delivering. So what's the procedure there? So you get the ring on the door, a guy, you open the door, he hands you a bag. Are you wearing a glove now, or how do you do that?
Starting point is 02:26:19 Well, what they can do is they can leave it at your doorstep. Make sure you're there. And I think they stand like two or three meters away. Leave it at the doorstep. And either you can just go out and they open up the delivery bag and you just pull it out of there yourself. That's what I do. I can just wash your hands and shit afterwards.
Starting point is 02:26:38 I think you'll be all right. most of them have helmets on and stuff like that as well because they're driving on scooters and bikes but yeah it was good and there's a lot more options at the moment and you heard Mickey Dees is closing down though here today Ireland man we talked about it
Starting point is 02:26:53 me and Patty did as well it's very very troubling information I went to Mackey Dees yesterday morning because me Elaine and my dad stayed up and drank a bottle of vodka and a bottle of tequila on Saturday night so I was a bit rough on a Sunday morning so I had to go down and get
Starting point is 02:27:09 myself a grand mac meal and the chicken selects just to balance myself out you see me drink tequila before remember york oh yeah uh no it's not good with me no spirits are good with me really i just think to the guinness these days now you're poison and uh tequila is certainly not from me or else just like you know for people judging us know that it's poison and be aware that we're poisoning yourselves so don't be too surprised if we get a bit fucking wild yeah no wild is the fucking word to you's no fucking doubt about it holy shit man fuck that shit i i i i I just avoid all spirits. Maybe you had gin and tonic here and there.
Starting point is 02:27:43 I'd ship a whiskey, but fuck me. I love it, Janentonix as well. Ment. Yeah, so have you set yourself? Like, I've sent myself a few things I want to do. Yeah, big time. It's isolation time. I got a few books I want to read.
Starting point is 02:27:56 I still haven't read that. I care a comic thing. I need to read that. I can't wait to read that. I just didn't know how to actually read it for a long time. I've got a few books. I've got, and I got a video game, because I haven't played a video game in so long.
Starting point is 02:28:08 I got Resident Evil, the remake of Resident Evil 2. For what? For PlayStation 4? You have one. My fucking nephew, the little shite is texting me every evening and going,
Starting point is 02:28:18 oh, I bought a load of games. He's online playing. That's all he's fucking down. Yeah, I mean, I'm not very good at them though. I just don't, I can't give myself the time to, like, you know,
Starting point is 02:28:29 about half an hour, I need some shit to happen. I can't just be walking around this mansion. I want some zombies trying to eat my face and I needed to happen quickly. I was always into the sports games. I was never into the sports games. Zelda, Zelda maybe back when this is, I'm talking Super Nintendo days.
Starting point is 02:28:44 That was a great game. But bar it out, you fuck all else. Madden. I used to have FIFA, Pro Evo, all that sort of shit, you know? Even now, I used to love those fight night games as well. They were deadly. But yeah, that's why I'm going to get. I used to play Resident Evil, so I was like, I'll get that, but decent stuff.
Starting point is 02:29:02 Have you seen, do you remember that imagine thing that started going around with the coronavirus? Have you seen the face of pain that Casey made? Yeah, it's brilliant. out there. I actually only saw it today. I don't know how I missed it yesterday. It was only released last night. I was it. All right. That's why I thought it was fucking yesterday. All right. Yeah, no, I only saw it today. It's pretty good. We should do one. The European media. M.M. He sent it to me and asked me to get it. But I was like, oh, geez, I don't know. Any European that would do that would do that. But then everyone in the video did so well. I could have, yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 02:29:31 In hindsight, when I saw it, I was like, oh, they would have done that. I think we should do it. I think we should do in a Eurobash one. But they've already made it. They've already made it. We'll do something different. we'll do some form of video now yeah well we'll have to think about it maybe people can send us suggestions suggestions we can do something among the bash hashtag euro bash suggestions we'll try and get some
Starting point is 02:29:52 we'll try and figure out a way for you guys send us in some questions or something for next week even if it's just an email address or something that I set up but yeah I'm gonna need to fill up I'm working on something where the guys can interact with us more in the coming week so we'll keep you posted on that
Starting point is 02:30:07 okay um right yeah so whatever we'll figure out a way that you guys can ask us questions for next week because um we need to fill up some time on this bad boy too as well as our interviews because nothing is happening but stay safe wash our hands love you be nice to each other keep your fucking social distance yeah two meters just do don't be a hard man don't we feel like some people are trying to be fucking tough guys like this doesn't apply to me it's not about you you dickhead it's about your family yeah you know it's about everyone else around you it's what this virus can do
Starting point is 02:30:38 because it's so contagious. And it's about not making me feel stabby when I'm walking around the ends. And if I see someone not making their social distance, I'm going to start carrying a blade and I'm going to start chopping people up. That's what I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 02:30:49 There you are. You're on fucking blast people. Lock this shit down. That's what Leo needs to do. Are you doing it? I'm getting two meters away of fucking people. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:58 Jesus, I'm getting in the fucking shop. I look like a fucking... You know what I look like? You know what I look like? I look like a fucking ultra. I swear to God, if this scarf around If you see me on Instagram, I put it up a few times my daily trip to the shop.
Starting point is 02:31:09 And I look like a fucking Ultra who's about to smash someone's head in. And people just, I'm getting some awful looks in the shop. But I'm going, I've got it down to every third day. I'm going to the shop now. So that's, I'll still go for a walk. Six times. I go for a walk every day. I just, yeah, I don't even, man, like, it's actually taking me a lot.
Starting point is 02:31:27 Like, I'll, I'll fucking beat off the shop. Oh, geez, that's wrong word. Teas. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll sort of put. off the shop, going to the shop for about two hours before I custard the merge muster, fucking hell. I'm going mental here, fucking hell.
Starting point is 02:31:44 Get the courage up to go to the shop. It's mad. It's fucking mental. I am freaked out, but... I just... I'm just... What I found is is, like, I'm walking a lot around with a state rather than going to somewhere where you should walk because every time I've gone to the park, 800 fucking
Starting point is 02:32:00 people there and, like, you know, nobody's keeping their distance and shit. Like, and even youngflers, when I'm walking around the little gangs and all you're like come on lads do I mean
Starting point is 02:32:09 like yeah I get it I get it that you know you want to be outside and you're a hard man and all but I mean it's not about you guys right like you guys are the carriers you're at a little disease carriers
Starting point is 02:32:18 that were all worried about so well I think that's why the government here have to you know I think this week we need to do it and I think there's something coming up now in the next hour here in Dublin announcement
Starting point is 02:32:27 but they need to enforce this and you know like what they do and did in Norway there was a guy who was diagnosed a coronavirus I need a mild case of it, went out to a party and the Norwegian government
Starting point is 02:32:39 fined him €2,000 earlier this afternoon. So that needs to come in place and they need to get the military in the streets and start to fucking jail for that one. Listen, like if everyone stays in their own spot for two weeks, just imagine that for two weeks. If everyone abides by this law
Starting point is 02:32:54 stays in for fucking two weeks, imagine the difference that will make. No, but like, even go out, but be smart about it. Don't go, don't meet anyone. Just go out. If you're like getting cabin fever, just go and walk by yourself, you know, keep away from people, you know, don't wait for someone else to get out of your way,
Starting point is 02:33:11 get out of people's way, you know, we're all help each other here, like it's, uh, we're going to have to come together and because tempers are going to be getting very fucking short in the next couple of weeks. Yeah, I'm getting short already and I think, um, I just think we need to just go on total lockdown for two weeks, fuck it. You know, it's not going to kill. You know, it's not going to,
Starting point is 02:33:28 um, you know, it's going to be the better for, for everyone else in this country and we don't have the virus spreading further. I was even saying, Like if it takes like me waiting till 2 o'clock in the morning to bring the dog for a walk, I'll do it. Like I don't, I don't care. Like whatever, whatever is a whatever is working for everybody else.
Starting point is 02:33:46 I do feel as though more people are understanding though as it goes on, right? Like I mean, that video you put up today, that poor guy is a patient in Kerry, I believe it is. Scary, scary, scary stuff. And it's, it's just, I guess people need to be aware of that these are the consequences of you. you know, 100% going out for a chat with your mates or whatever. And I think people, and I know it's obviously tough for them, but I think we should see a little bit more of the patients
Starting point is 02:34:12 who are affected with coronavirus and they're in hospital. It would be great if they, you know, are sort of in recovery and they can put out videos like this sort of warning the young guys because there's been very few and far between. We've seen people actually come out and talk about it. And I think the more chat you get out there from actual patients who have had it will put the shits up these young guys
Starting point is 02:34:32 and keep them off the streets. and still they'll hopefully engage in social distancing that's my feeling absolutely um i hope all the mcgras are safe and well yeah same same but you're you're a lot as well in the lane and and all the guys there definitely absolutely guys uh we hope you're all very safe we hope you're washing them fucking hands and keeping your distance and plugging your face into euro bash every tuesday um just a reminder the a side is out now on three times a week on monday wednesday and friday Fuck Jose Youngs. To help you guys through the struggle at the moment.
Starting point is 02:35:05 We had a great episode last week with Jose Torres and Ashley Evan Smith. They are on, when this comes out, there will be an episode yesterday for them with, I believe, Anthony Smith is going to be on the show this time. So it should be very, very good. Right. Send us some suggestions of what we can do to pass our time. some hobbies we can get into and possibly some videos we can do
Starting point is 02:35:34 that will pull us all together under the flag of the European Union. Yes, absolutely. Stay safe. M-a-a.

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