MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 76 (w/ Joanne Calderwood, Nicolas Dalby, Morgan Charriere, Pedro Carvalho)

Episode Date: March 31, 2020

On this week's Eurobash, Joanne Calderwood (15:30) sheds light on how she is preparing for her championship meeting with Valentina Shevchenko. Nicolas Dalby (40:00) returns to the show and details how he found out about the cancellation of his UFC London co-main event bout with Danny Roberts. Morgan Charriere (1:05:30) explains how he tried to save his interim title bout at Cage Warriors 113 and Pedro Carvalho (1:31:00) gave insight into how he is staying positive despite losing his championship clash with Patricio Freire due to the cancellation of Bellator 241. Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath look at all the latest news in European MMA.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're washing our hands. We're keeping our distance. And we're getting it done. I, of course, I'm in Blanchetstown, the capital of Dublin. And Noel is all the way over on the south side in Georgetown. Noel, how are you? I miss you, my friend. I miss you too, brother.

I'm not bad. It's been tough. It's been the same for everyone. But just getting on with it. Head down. do what we can as you said there you know wash your hands stay away from people and just sort of lock this shit down you know that's all we can do at the moment i know it's frustrating but so is life brother but we just got to got a soldier on and fight this shit yes absolutely i couldn't agree more man

um first of all just want to say a huge thanks to everyone and for the reaction to last week's podcast um huge numbers uh and great we appreciate all of you doing it we appreciate you doing it we appreciate all sharing it out and keeping the buzz going. You know, great feedback on Noel's brilliant interview with Colby Covington, a man who pulls no punches as we know, the legendary Yohanna Yanjacheck, of course, also on the show, and the great Paddy Pimlet of Mason Jones. And we're going to keep on trying to give you the best show we can every week. We know that it is not ideal, the situation we're in, but we know we can all get through it together.

I should also mention that there is three. extra episode, sorry, two extra episodes of the A-side going out every week on MMAFighting.com's YouTube page. So shows every Monday, Wednesday and Friday with Jose Youngs. Today it was Jose Young's. On Monday even, it was Jose Youngs, Alex K. Lee and Alima Leigh McFarland. And I'll be joining Jose on Wednesdays and Fridays for his show. And we have more guests lined up for them as well.

So just make sure you can get on and watch them if you need something to do with. They're going down at 5pm Irish Times. and 6pm for the Central European time all week. But yeah, this week on the show we're going to have Jojo Collewood, who is preferring for that title with Valentina Shevchenko. We're also going to hear from Mr. Locomotivo himself, Nicholas Dalby, who was supposed to play co-main event with Danny Roberts on that cancelled UFC London event. We're also going to talk to Pedro Cavallo and Morgan Sharié,

who both missed out on title shots. due to growing coronavirus concerns and different travel restrictions and, you know, in terms of Pedro, just the cancellation of an event at the 11th hour. But, yeah, it continues to be a crazy week, Noel. And funnily enough, stories are still coming out and throwing themselves in front of us,

as we've seen with John Jones. And more recently, this Habib and Tony fight. Oh, stop it, man. It's headwrecking on John Jones. Again, I know we're going to talk about both those situations in a while, but, you know, totally disappointing. You know, it's almost an annual occurrence of this, right?

And, you know, same with obviously Tony and Habib. It just seems as though it's fucking cursed like we always thought it was. So, yeah, I'm sure we'll talk about them in a bit. Yeah, let's get through these news headlines. There isn't load, but here we go. Habibna Magna Madov has locked down in Dagestan, feels as Ferguson fight is unlikely, which Dana White has been touting as the cure for coronavirus.

at this stage. Tony Ferguson has apparently been offered a fight with Justin Gagee. Ariel Hwani was the first to report that for ESPN. Dana Hoyt has said that potentially the UFC have four or five venues for that two four nine event. He also says that the UFC London fighters will be compensated. As well as that Hoyt has said that he will endeavor to rebook Woodley and Edward, so it seems Covington v. Woodley has come and gone as quickly as, you know,

A glimmer man, basically. Cage Warriors, Birmingham has been moved to April 18th to October 10th, and Cage Warriors Belfast has been moved from May 16th to September 26th. That is all the news we have for you right now. But we're going to be talking about these various European stories throughout the show. But where better to start than this Habib, Tony situation, Noel. Basically, Dennis Goiko puts out today on RT Sport, translation of a live chat, Habib, has done.

He basically says he made his way to Dagestan after the UFC told him it would 99% be happening in the United Arab Emirates. He's now locked in Dagestan and he believes that Tony Ferguson is being offered different opponents. It then comes out that it's Justin Gehchi from Mr. Helwani and I'm sure Habib would have known that as well given that he is a stable mate of Justin Gaich. He's under dominance MMA management. First of all, a lot to be.

unpack here. What do you think of this decision to go forward with the event even though, or it seems to be going forward event, even though the fight that it was all meant to be hinged on, it might not happen here. I'm not surprised at all, Pete, you know, I tweeted out earlier on it. You know, I think this is all about, you know, filling a gap in the market for Dana White and the UFC, you know, more eyes on the sport. People are desperate to watch on it than at the moment.

And I think this is the case, you know. Eyes equal money for the UFC. and this is very much the way they're looking at it. Any sort of fight, obviously they want their biggest stars there, but if they can't get them there, they're going to do everything else to put a card on in the public guy where people are so desperate at this time to watch any sort of sport.

I think we look at even Belarus yesterday. The Belarusian League is going ahead. The only football, I think, on in Europe. And all my feckin timeline was full of people watching Belarusian soccer. It just says to you how reliance people are in sport these days. and I think that's Dana White's thinking that if they get this in the spotlight there's going to be so much eyes on it. I've said this for weeks.

You know, it's money. You have always, you have always said this in fairness. You've always from the UFC's point of view anyway, this has been your lion since this whole thing kicked off three weeks ago or whatever. Yeah, and I'm not changing my mind on that. I think it's, you know, straight away we hear talking about Justin Gaci from Ariel

that he's been off for that fight. Obviously, he's under Ali as well. But the one thing I don't understand and, you know, we did say this I think two weeks ago on the show that Russia were putting, you know, a travel ban in place. So why did Habib go back to Russia? I don't know. It just seems a little bit strange to me. I'm not sure

maybe there was personal reasons. I don't know. Well, he said he went home because the UFC told him was 99% happening in the United Arab Emirates. That's a short flight. Well, yeah, it is. Yeah, so, listen, I don't know. I think it was a bit strange from the UFC, maybe a little bit of...

Oh, Matt. Send him over there. Should have stayed in the US in San Jose. Here's the thing. Yeah, absolutely. And the only reason why he left the US is because they told him to basically. It's not going to happen here. And now you're in a situation where, you know, there's already a tremendous amount of risk here for Habib.

And now it seems like, you know, he can't leave. It's a global pandemic. He can't leave his house. This UFC's fault 100% for telling them that it was going to be in UAE. But what I want to know with, right? Like, I'm looking at this, right? Oh, we're already moving the conversation onto this Ferguson v. Gagey thing, very similar to the way they did with Colby Covington.

and Tyron for the UFC London fight. But why would you do this if you were Tony Ferguson? You're literally risking the biggest fight of your career, the chance to beat the guy who's never been beaten. You're doing this all for the UFC.

I agree. What happens if Justin Gage beats Tony Ferguson and then the fight never fucking happens? You're just literally putting on a fight to get rid of the fight now. It makes no fucking sense. There's one of two things happening here in terms of Tony Ferguson. Tony's obviously getting a big, big payoff, you know, a bigger payoff maybe from the UFC than he would have to fight

Habib if they still want to go ahead with this and this very much looks like the plan. And yeah, it is. It's a massive risk for Tony. And, you know, should he do it? Probably not, in my opinion, because this is the fight everyone wants to see. He wants the title. He's always said that that's what is about for him, beating the best. And the best the moment is Habib. And, you know, it's five fucking times, man, this fight's falling out. But the UFC have to ask, have to, you know, answer some questions now with the balance borders. crazy stuff, in my opinion, for the UFC. So I don't really know what's going on.

But Dana does have a lot of questions to answer. I hope he comes out and addresses them pretty much tonight for me would be the ideal time to do it. No, it wouldn't, because then we'd have to re-record the podcast like we had to do for the last two weeks. We'll talk about that more towards the end. We'll talk about that more towards the end. But, you know, it's just like, right, look,

there's no doubt about it, Noel. Gachi and Ferguson is a fucking unbelievable fight. Unreal. There's no doubt about it. It's a fantastic fight. But I think my good friend Shaheen El Shadi put it best just a couple of hours ago on Twitter when he said,

we've already waited five years for this fight. Why can't we just wait another two months? You know, or three months, whatever it is, it just seems absolutely mental. Yeah. But like, you know, the other thing is, and maybe they might, maybe they might do this yet. Like, you know, we've Karmer Usman,

who's coming out now in a few minutes, apparently on his Instagram live, and he's going to make some statement. And we have, we've had Colby Covington saying let's do the Tyrone Woodley fight in the White House lawn. We've had, you know, Horgee Masvidal as well shouting about it. So maybe they might put on and try and do a different fight and maybe put that off for a number of months. But as I've said all along, I think they're going to play through with something and try and put on something big. And, you know, if we have to wait three, four, five, six months, fuck it, let's do it.

You know, I'd rather see Gaichi and Ferguson fall out instead of missing out in that potential, Habib Ferguson, fight, you know. So there's other fights there. There seems to be other guys that are willing to jump up and, you know, obviously throw down. So there's fights there that are huge potential for viewing figures as well. You know, we talked about, we had them on the show last week. You know,

Calby once Woodley or once Usman rematch. Like, who wouldn't watch those fights or Jorge Mazda? Any of those combinations, man, would be fucking sick. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Well, I guess a lot of things are making me, I'm getting to the point now, a lot of things are

making me feel like we looked at the fact that, you know, we're looking at this. What is Dana pressing forward with this event? And he seems to be selling it like, you know, I'm never going to let this fight. Like this fight is happening. There's no way it's not going to happen this time. Right. You've lost the fight now. Yeah.

Habib can't leave Dagestan. You're not going to put the event on Dagestan. You're not going to move the UFC. You're not going to get US staff into Dagestan or Russia now anyway. But, you know, we brought up last week. Damon Martin wrote an article about it. The credit ratings that Endeavour UFC have at the moment are bad. You know, they've had to pay out 300 million to their investors, Mark Wahlberg and the boys.

But this whole situation where they're forcing through, right, they've lost a fight now. Now they're trying to do a completely different fight, which could, in fact, take away the fight that we're all really want here, which is Habib and Ferguson. It's making me feel like they're in far worse financial peril than I imagined. Listen, I don't know. Is it just an ego thing with Dana? Yeah, I think it is. Is this a business thing? Do you need to make ends meet?

I think it's a little bit of both. But, you know, he's obviously under pressure to fulfill contractual obligations per year. I'm sure that's, you know, obviously on his mind. He's a businessman first and foremost. But it's a large part of this is Dana's ego as well. It's, you know, we talked about it. You know, there's a hole there, as I've said, you know, for the UFC to, you know, come out of this in terms of a business. and financial model in terms of getting eyes on them,

there's a huge gap. And Dana's always tried to exploit those gaps. And I think it is ego. I think a huge portion of this is ego in terms of proven other people wrong. Dana always has that chip on the shoulder right back from the days when he was knocking on the offices trying to sell his pay-per-views to providers

who wouldn't pick it up back in the day when they first purchased the company. So it's very much similar Dana mindset all the way through. And I think that's the way he's working. and I don't think he's going to give up. I think we're going to see something. I really do. I generally think we're going to see something on April 19th.

And I wouldn't be surprised. April 18th. Jesus. I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of the four fights that mentioned. But I wouldn't be, you know, let's just see what happens with Tony and Habib. You know, I'm sure they're trying to look at something or do something. It looks like it's dead in the water. But Habib is sort of, as we listened to the Instagram post earlier on, you know,

he is sort of clutching to straws at the moment. He said that they're obviously trying to look for a new opponent for Tony. So, listen, fingers crossed, but I don't know. It's just very headwracking at the moment. There's so many different permutations and what's going on. And it's all over the shop. I saw Casey, the great Casey, Lloyd, talking about it earlier. It's like, this situation is growing more grave by the day.

Like, we nearly have a million cases worldwide here. New York is the epicenter of the situation here. There's a good chance that in three weeks' time, America isn't looking so good. Like, I mean, if you think this is bad, in three weeks, it's 100% going to be worse. Like, there is no, there is no two ways about it. Yeah, 100% going to be in a worse situation. 100%. How the fuck can this even go ahead if it gets worse than this?

We can't do it in this situation. Three weeks later, with the situation getting so much worse day by day, how in the fuck are they going to put on an event then? It's just, it's madness. It should be cancelled. It really should, you know, but Dana just doesn't act like that. He doesn't work like that. he's going to pull every little bit last ounce out of this if he can't and I think you know probably

what's going to happen is as you said there it is going to get worse worse worse and worse and the doctors are going to tell him to pull it that's what's more than likely going to happen in my opinion but I do I do still think he's going to try and put on something on the 19th and listen it's day and I wouldn't be surprised if we saw it either like he's it's just such a conflicted um talk process in my mind you know, and we talked about this when we were obviously watching Cage Warriors a few weeks ago. But yeah, it's going to get worse. Like we haven't even hit even here in Ireland.

I know the States is, you know, growing rapidly day by day. It's getting worse. So they're two, three weeks, even a month away from possibly being at their highest case of this pandemic. Absolutely. Let's move it on to the first interview of the day. It is Joanne Collarwood returning to the Eurobas. She, of course, is preparing for a fight with Valentina Shevchenko. which is scheduled to go down on June 6th in Perth, Australia

for the Floydweight title. However, it may look as though that Habib and Tony isn't the only title of weight we might not be seeing on a certain date. We'll leave it to Jojo and we'll be back in a few minutes. Talk to you soon. And she is back, the great Jojo Collewood, the Fighting Pride of Scotland,

who is gearing up for a flyweight title fight against Valentina Shevchenko on June 6th in Perth, Australia. This is crazy times. How are you? How is the preparation going? It's, you know, considering what we're going through right now, as everyone knows, like, the world's kind of upside down right now. But apart from that, like, everything is going really good. I'm lucky enough to be engaged to my coach

and training's not really stopped. I'm just missing all my training partners. But to be honest, this time right now, we've had a lot more time to do, like, fight study and not get away from game planning. So I'm kind of enjoying this downtown, down time, just obviously missing the company that I strive for. Right, obviously it's a crazy situation, as you pointed out there.

How are things in Vegas? In Dublin here, we're in kind of lockdown at the moment. What does it look over there? It's crazy. It makes me worried because even last week there was like lots of kids in the park. There's still people like I'm seeing on my social media still like even people part of the gym like out meeting other people. but this week I think everyone's

kind of got on okay shit this is serious because obviously Trump is now ordered another 30 day he's extended it to April 30 if before everything goes back to normal well potentially so I think

people are starting to get that but I was on the bandwagon straight away like I kept myself to myself I'm like one of these people that kind of doesn't want to do anything wrong. Like even if, like, people are saying, oh, this is bullshit and I don't believe in it, and it's just a flu and all that. But I'm like someone that likes to play by the rules.

So I was like straight away, like on top of that. So we've been good. And yeah, it's strange times. I feel like I'm living in a movie, but trying to stay positive. Yes, absolutely. I think you've summed it up very well. It's a bizarre feeling, something that we've certainly never encountered in our lifetimes. But I'm sure this puts all types of weird strain on a camp, right? Not only the, as you mentioned, you don't have training partners. But I mean, the fact that the uncertainty of everything, right? Like, I mean, we don't know when life as we knew it is going to go back to normal again. I mean, right now, are you confident that this fight will go ahead on June 6th? Well, we got word last week that it's going to get pushed back, not because of this whole thing, but something on her end. So I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say that, but we know for sure that it's not going to happen on June 6th. So I don't know, I'm not sure of what happened or what's what, but yeah, it's being pushed back.

But it could be like a blessing in disguise. Yes, absolutely. Well, I think that that allows you, gives you a lot more space and as you said, you're allowed to be a lot more thorough in your preparation, right? Yeah. Right now I'm enjoying this like one to one in like just, you know, this is a very important fight for me and I just feel like it's just all this is happening and I'm just going to take the best out of this situation. Yeah, absolutely. Like, I mean, now that you've heard that, I guess, you know, you don't have to get into the severe camp mode. You know it's going to happen after June. But, I mean, did you guys make plans for it? How would you sparrow?

I know you've put some great posts up of you playing a VR game, which looks great, by the way. But, I mean, what was the plan for that? Or would you just be, you know, would you just use your coach, basically, as your only sparring partner and to lead up to it? So we have plans right now that we have another girl who is in strict quarantine. So we're keeping our circle small. And obviously we're cleaning the gym before and after everything's closed. But yes, she's the only person that we are, it's me and my coach and her basically right now. And she's a really good hard, great Southpaw partner.

now so we're getting some great working and I trust her and that right now we're just doing lots of drilling and lots of game plan stuff. That sounds amazing and I'd say that's an incredible ask as well to have to ask your aspiring parent to basically just wrap yourself in cotton wall and come to the gym and let me beat you up for a while. It's a bit of it's a two-way street she's beating me up to you know right right it's it's it's crazy right because this means a lot to european fans and the fact that you're fighting for a title this is a situation we we've been hoping for for a long time and i guess the thing about valentina at the moment is she's considered one of the great fighters in the sport um i feel as though you know you you can challenge her in a way that

we haven't seen her challenge before do you feel that way as well do you do you expect this to be maybe a far more competitive fight than we've seen Valentina have as the champion's offer. Yeah, for sure. Like, I have every confidence in myself and my team, my coach, he's like, when it comes to game planning, I see him being the best. And I've seen what he does workwise with other people on the team. He's very knowledgeable in the, you know, the UFC game. I see what he can do in there.

And I'm like, yeah, I think a lot of this game planning comes down to the errors. And maybe the errors that you come down and put into the UFC game. But, you know, I have full confidence in myself. And, you know, like, a lot of people, she's earned disrespect of a lot of people thinking she's unbeatable and she's so dominant. and all that kind of stuff and I respect that but at the end of the day I've got a job to do and the only thing I can have

is the confidence in myself and the training and going into this fight and showing up on the day. Is that a motivator? Like it seems like JoJo when you're speaking about there, the fact that she is, has this status as this immovable object at the top of the division, I'm sure that is the type of person

you want to be fighting for a world title, right? For sure, like this is why I got into MMA because before in my Maitai career I was like chasing the best and just wanting to I was like chasing UK number one refash down at the time and like just couldn't get that fight and I was like because there's so many other different titles in politics and my Thai I just couldn't get that fight and I was getting sick of it and then the whole MMA world came into my life and I was like, man, this is awesome. And I was like, obviously women wasn't in the UFC at the time,

but as like Cage Warriors and Invicta, and it was like you could see that the trend was, okay, if you want to be the best, you have to fight the best. And that's why I was drawn to it so much. And I've always, that's been my plan. I want to be the best fighter I can be. And to do that, you have to fight the best. and this opportunity is great.

You know how sometimes like pinch myself like you're like from Scotland and you're like in the best organisation and this is like this wasn't supposed to happen. Like there's so many people that if you told them that at the time then they would like knock you down and be like, yeah, right, that's not going to happen. so it's like yeah it's awesome yes it is it's an amazing journey you've been on and i'm just i'm just wondering um you know the fact that this was going to happen in australia a lot of a lot of

travel involved there as well i'm sure it's not the worst thing in the world there that you won't be flying halfway across the world for this point like especially in these in this situation right yeah we were planning to go two weeks before and you know that i think it's like 24-hour flying time. Crazy. You're talking like two-day travel. So, yeah, that was going to be. But I love Australia, so I wasn't going to complain about that.

It's a great country. And I know there's a lot of UK and Scottish people over there. So, yeah, I'm just hoping now it's maybe in the US and it will be closer for everyone to kind of meet in the middle. Have you any idea of how long? long it's going to be pushed back by or anything like that, Jojo? No, I'm not sure. Obviously, what I told you, I don't think it's happening when it was supposed to.

I don't really know too much else detail. Right. Is it hard being away from your family. I know you have great relationships in Scotland. Obviously, I know you have great relationships in Vegas as well, but is it hard when a situation like this is going down to be away from your family? Yeah, but we have. Even though we're so far away from each other, we've kept that connection.

I've been travelling now for like five years. And obviously it's harder when it was harder when I was in a tougher time. But now I feel like I've found my groove and I'm in a better place. And like you say, I've got a lot of good family around me. found my man my better half so that makes everything better and I'm in that really happy period of my life so and they're very supportive and happy for me too and we still have that connection and the technology nowadays like I can keep their relationship strong with them and I'm very grateful for that every time I see you you're just beaming you look so happy and you know

What kind of impact does that have on your fighting, your training? I mean, the mental side of this is so important, as we know, we always hear the elite fighters like yourself speaking about, you know, how being positive helps in every aspect of this game. But you being so happy right now, so happy in yourself, is that having a great impact on your fight game? Yeah, like for luck and opportunities, everything's like, I feel like so when I was like kind of in a dark place,

and I was getting injured a lot and just my lifestyle was like taking a kicking and I just feel like I was kind of like I don't want to say victim but like you know I was like there was so much shit going around going wrong around me but the difference was I've changed my lifestyle

and I've changed my mindset and started with small baby steps but I started to see like my luck changed and my body started to react better so I wasn't injured as much. You know, this sport takes a toe on your mental side and your physical side. So that's really important. And I do really think that opportunities come around and just try you start to see the light at the end of the tunnel when you do start to change. change, I guess your actions and your mindset. So that would be the biggest thing, I think.

And yeah, your training, like, although my training never really stopped, I feel like I am being more deliberate and I'm being more productive with it. Before, like, when I was at Strawley, I was over-training and just killing myself. and you know when stuff isn't going right outside of the gem or the octagon you're like try and hammer yourself and you're hard on yourself so you're probably not being the smartest and making the smartest decisions of oh i just need to train harder kind of thing so yeah it sounds to me like you've put all the the pieces of the jigsaw in place for you to become a world champion in 2020 would you agree Yeah, and I've had like, if you look at my career, there's been like times where I could have just been like at the end of my reach being like in place for the next title holder or, you know, I was in the ultimate fight or I was the second seed on that. Like all the kind of things were there in place. But if you looked at my, if you knew what was happening and kind of all. around me, then you would

like, now me looking back, I'm like, no, that wasn't the right time. I wasn't a champion at that time. I didn't have everything checked and everything in order. So now I feel like I do and the ball was rolling and everything's going good

and I'm ready to take that step. That's amazing, Jojo. Great to hear all this. I just have one more question. We've been asking everybody. Obviously, we have a lot of listeners on the show and they are bored. They are really bored because they have nothing to do and they're locked in their houses. Do you have any recommendations for workouts, books, movies, TV shows, and of course, video games.

You're a video game connoisseur now, of course. Anything at all that could help our listeners pass their time while they're in isolation? Well, I would recommend the VR, like the PlayStation VR. That game that I was playing was creed but there's also like there's lots of like horror ones and stuff and just you know we're all stuck inside or we're kind of uh restricted to where we're going so i feel like VR virtual world is like where it's at for us anyway and you can get lost in those games and they're pretty funny and fun to do but uh i just watched last night the platform don't know if you saw it oh on Netflix. I haven't seen it yet, but I have been looking at. It's really good. Yeah, it was good. It was

so strange. It kind of made me have weird dreams last night. But we're also still on the black mirror seat. I think we've got one more episode of that. And I feel like there should be an episode on this whole thing that we're doing right now. So yeah, that and I'm going to watch the hunt tonight. So, Obviously, Dana White put that out there that it's looking good. It was good and I watched the trailer so it looks good. And workouts, luckily we've just put our, put like weights together and there's so much out there. And we were like, do we have to like put workouts out there?

Because so many people, there's so much on offer already. But we done a little pad session that we're going to put out. Yeah, just keep it simple and baby steps. Like, don't go all out. Oh, I'm going to go on a marathon today. Rest assured, there's no fear of me going to run a marathon tomorrow Jojo. But amazing suggestions. It's great to hear from you.

We can't wait to see you fight for that world title. And I hope you stay happy and stay healthy. And I hope your family and friends do too. Yep. Thank you so much. And all the same to you. and thank you for having me and thanks for your support as always.

You're a legend, Jojo. Talk to you soon. And thank you so much to Joanne Collewood. What a crazy experience it must be preparing for a world title fight with this situation going down. She can't even train, basically. She has another fighter wrapped up in cotton wool so they can spar ahead of this fight.

It's crazy. Some great recommendations there from Joanne Collewood as well as to what we can do with our spare time. And based on what I've seen on our Instagram page, them VR headsets look absolutely unbelievable. I think Moyle Lane would love that too if I can get one. But I'd be afraid she might box the head off me on that boxing game, and that would be parts.

But, Noel, a situation that we've been talking about for the last two weeks is the UFC London fighters not being compensated yet. You know, we're seeing people like Leah McCart come out and talk about. And we know Leah is very close with Molly and stuff. like that. I mean, we're going to hear from Nicholas Dalby in a few minutes now who basically confirms

as positively as he possibly could in fairness to Nick. He's like, you know, I think it's going to be resolved. We haven't been paid yet. But I mean, is this insane? This is meant to be the biggest fight league in the world. The week before, your biggest rival had to cancel an event and they paid everyone

straight away, win bonuses too. Like, yeah, it's bad, right? It's terrible. it's, you know, all we want is clarity and it just seems to be across the board in general at the UFC at the moment and we talked about obviously a few minutes

in relation to 249 it's just a mass cluster fuck everything that's going on at the moment there's no clarification and I know the situation in the world but they need to start making decisions and laying them out and executing these decisions

and another couple of things I want to mention as well I've seen a couple of interviews with Dana White this week and I can't understand why a couple of our colleagues haven't asked these questions you know these are prominent questions for the fighters that should be asked from journalists.

We need answers to this. It's very, very frustrating for obviously the fighters, you know, their families to feed, especially in times like this, when guys, you know, some guys obviously we know, they work other jobs as well. They own gyms. Their gyms are closed. They need the fucking money.

So there needs to be a decision made and needs to be executed and done quickly. It is pretty disgraceful that it's gone on this long. I have to agree now at this point. You know, I gave the UFC the benefit of the day for a few weeks, but you know get your shit together make a fucking decision and pay these guys what they should be paid because it's it's getting disgraceful at this point yeah now in fairness he has been asked about and he said he would compensate them which is all well and good but they haven't been paid yet based on our conversation with nick dalby and i mean look it's an erratic fucking line of work to

be in um you know you can guarantee that these fighters are expecting money coming in if they're to fight on the 21st they're expecting on the week of the 23rd and they have a lot of expenses they probably have to sort out then with the money that's coming in. And when that money doesn't come in, you're leaving them at a really dead end in a horrific situation where we need to be buying a lot of food. Can I just jump in there? Sorry, don't mean to interrupt you, but for anyone who's listening to this, very interesting breakdown, Miles Dury, former UFC fighter, Bellator fighter, actually does YouTube videos and he's actually, he does his whole pay cut of what the breakdown is. So it's just interesting if guys want to go have a look at that and see how fighters are actually paid. It's really,

really interesting that Miles breaks down to the tea, what he's to say, his coaches, his team, his nutrition, tax, all that. Very interesting stuff. Thanks for cut me off there, Noel. But, you know, they're expecting this. It's not happening. And, you know, it's all well and good to say it, as I was saying.

But to not do it at this stage is crazy. And I mean, does this again, and I'll say it again, does this again point to Endeavour UFC being in big financial trouble? Because this is what it's saying to me, or is it just the fact that they're trying to sort out all these events and stuff that they aren't sorting out the people who have been working for three months? I just don't understand it. I think it's a bit of both.

I really do. I think it's very similar to what we were talking about earlier on in terms of Dana, you know, pushing for these fight cards to go ahead. I just think the organisation at the moment is just so much going on that they're trying to work so fast and it's such a fast pace to try and get these events on and fighters here logistically. It's obviously a pain the hours for everything. But yeah, this should have been sort of.

it out, you know, minimum of last week. Like, it's getting ridiculous at this point. And, you know, in terms of getting compensated, they should be fully compensated. It should get their win money as well, as far as I'm concerned. I think it's mental. It's just crazy situation that they're in. But yeah, it's just a total cluster folk at the moment the UFC. Like, look at, look at what's going on. Just look at everything. It's like, you know, it's great. Boom. Your head is just thinking 15 different things at once. And I'm sure Dan is in that situation as well, but it's mad. Just mental. Aaron Chalmers put out last that no one had been covering this

obviously I sent them all the stuff we had done you know Aaron's a good lad but um you know we're working very fucking hard at the moment and of course we are always given a voice to the likes of the fighters and we have featured on this podcast fighters talking about this topic

for a long time but look this is not an easy situation for the fighters to speak about I mean how many times have fighters been punished for this kind of thing a lot and so I have a lot of credit for Nick Dalby coming out and speaking about this. You know, he isn't, he isn't in any way being aggressive about the situation. He's not even being negative about the situation.

But it needs to be said that these people haven't been paid yet. And all the fighters should thank Nicholas Dalby for coming out and speaking about this. Because, you know, we saw Ashley Evan Smith talking about it. We saw Jack Shore talking about it. You know, you've got to respect these situations. There are so many people here asking, why aren't the media doing the job? when we are actually doing our job, but they won't speak about themselves.

This is why a union needs to be founded. It's absolutely ridiculous. That's on the fighters too. But I really hope they get paid, especially someone like Nick with a young family there. Crazy, just craziness. And it's a very stressful situation, especially when you have young kids.

And to not have a few quid in your pocket only makes it far more horrific. So look, Nick is in a good place. He seems very positive about the season. situation seems like the situation be resolved but um yeah crazy crazy situation for him being the co-mate event of london two years after turning his life around basically after winning the cage warriors total in one of the fights of the year against ross houston then coming back in copenhagen with that fantastic fight um just what a roller coaster this guy's been on and we're going to go to our interview with nick now and we'll be back in about 15 minutes it's a man we have been waiting to hear from

He was supposed to fight in the co-main event of UFC London last weekend on March 21st. But unfortunately, coronavirus concerns led to the event being cancelled. It is none of the great former Cage Warriors champion. And Danish great Nicholas Dalby. Nicholas, how are you, my friend? What a week you must have had. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I'm doing good, thanks.

And yeah, it's been a crazy couple of weeks. That's for sure. You, how are things going, first of all, at home? Is everyone all good? Is the family safe? Yeah, the family is good. We've had no, like, illness or stuff like that. And so everything's good.

And to me, actually, the last couple weeks, has kind of felt like it always does after a fight, where it's kind of like downtime. And I have a lot of time to spend time with my daughter and my girlfriend. the difference is just that the rest of Denmark is in the same situation as me now. Yes. What is the situation there? In Ireland, we are in lockdown. We aren't, they aren't calling it lockdown, but it is pretty much lockdown. You can only go out maybe for the, to go to the shops to get something or for a brief exercise. Otherwise, you have to stay in. What's the situation in Denmark? Well, I guess it's more or less the same.

The situation is you're not allowed to gather more than 10 people at a time. You are allowed to go outside, but you have to stay, you have to keep distance to other people or gatherings. So it's not like, it's not by law that we have to like stay indoors, but it's highly advised, of course, to limit the contact. with other people. And then, yeah, I guess every, every shop, but besides, you know, convenience stores are closed, stuff like that. Right. Is it, is it interesting having, of course, your daughter?

Like, how do you explain this to your daughter? Of course, she's so young. Is it, how do you approach that? Do you, is it hard to explain to a child of that age? Yeah, she's only one and a half. So she, like, she gets basic stuff. like you can ask her to take stuff to the trash can and stuff like that. But explaining more complex stuff, that's a bit difficult right now.

But I felt for sure some frustrations from her because she's used to going to a nursery every day. Yes. So she's the last week, last week she was kind of like frustrated, I could feel. And of course, taking it out on us because like why are you not taking me to the nursery? Yes, of course. So she got a bit frustrated with us. understandably so, but this week's been pretty good. I felt she's adjusted now to being with us the whole day

and me taking her for a lot of walks and taking her to the playground and stuff like that. Well, that's good to hear. Yeah. It sounds like you guys have got a good handle on the situation, but of course, I'm sure it was a lot more dramatic two weeks ago when, you know, we began to get reports that UFC London wouldn't be happening. and you had a hell of a fight on that card. I mean, anyone, like, everybody I spoke to was looking forward to you and Danny Roberts so much.

The style matchup just, I think it would have been impossible to let us down, us fight fans. Everybody was really pumped for that. I guess about two weeks out from the event, you know, events start being cancelled. I mean, before you had touched base with the UFC, where you kind of thinking, right, this isn't going to happen. And how does that feel when this awareness is coming to you, when you, when you're, You are probably in peak shape. You're two weeks out from a huge fight. How do you react to this as you see events closing down around the world?

Well, I felt pretty confident that the event would still happen, but probably just behind closed doors. My good friend Damia Hatsovich, who was fighting in Brazil, and that's what they chose to do there. So maybe I was just naive or optimistic, but I felt like that was what's going to happen. but yeah it was it was interesting for sure to be following that situation and reading all the mhmia media like i i just took a day from day today and almost hour to hour um so and i think

in the back of my head i kind of prepared myself for the the the option that it might be cancelled um but but it seemed unlikely because the ukay was so uh relaxed about the whole situation so it seemed like it would be able to to happen but then that US travel ban came in and and was decided and I think yeah that that apparently made the whole thing a fall apart so so I was kind of prepared for it but it still sucked and I was I was yeah very frustrated about it yeah I can imagine I remember the first the first we heard was that they were trying to reload Kate, specifically Leon Edwards and Tyrone Woodley.

A lot of people were saying, have the other Florida's been contact, how did this relocation option, you know, been suggested to you guys? Did you hear anything about you and Danny possibly moving to the US as well? No,

and I knew when that got suggested, that was only going to be regarding Leon Edwards and Woodley because it was specifically just that fight mentioned by Dana. And, you know, anyway, that would allow me entrance to the US.

And then so I knew when that was debated that that was only regarding the main event fight. Right. And I wasn't contacted about it either as well. But presumably because they knew that neither Danny I would have the right visas to be allowed into the US. Was it ever an option? I know that Fabinski and Darren Stewart went and competed on that Cage Warriors card in Manchester, it turned out to be on the day before UFC London. was going to happen. And of course, you and Graham, great relationship. You were a cage warrior's

legend. Was that ever an option that was floated to you or Danny for the cage warriors card? I don't know if Danny was given the option or how his position was on it. I was given the option, but for several factors, it wasn't possible. Like, of course, it's me stepping into the cage, but I depend on a tight-knit team to be able to do that. And there was just simply too many unknowns for that to be able to take place unfortunately. So I was offered the opportunity, but it wasn't possible. We officially got word, I believe it was, Nick, on the Sunday before the event. So the event was going to happen on Saturday, but we got an email.

Yeah. I think it was Sunday saying, right, it's officially been cancelled. Was that the day you guys found out as well? I know you probably knew at this stage, right? At this stage, it was all trending towards the event being cancelled anyway. But was that, no, like,

no, all my knowledge about the situation unfolding I got from the media. Wow. And that might sound a bit weird,

but, but like my manager is based in Europe as well. So I think what happened was that all of these decisions was sent out to, to managers who then relayed on to the fighters.

And because some of the fighters were based in the U.S., you know, the work got out to the media and the press. So instead of, just trying to keep it in. I think U.S. He just released a general statement, but that was probably during the night in Europe.

And before my manager had the opportunity to wake up and relay information, you know, I might have read it on some page somewhere. So, you know, it is what it is. Information moves fast in this world. So you can always count on getting the information in such a rapidly developing situation. You can't, you know, expect to get it from. from the true source all the time. You weren't expecting a phone call from Dana Hoyt, basically.

No, I don't think I'm in his phone book yet. Yes, yes. A couple years down the road, that might have changed, but not yet. Is that a frustrating situation to be in? You know, I can, I'm trying to put myself in your shoes, and I'm kind of thinking I would be so anxious if I was in that situation, trying to debate, is this happening? Is it not happening?

Do I have to leave my family? Am I going to be able to go with my team? And then to not really be hearing anything directly from the horse's mouth, the UFC. Is that annoying, frustrating at the time? It was frustrating at the time, but I get how it's set up because once you start communicating directly

to the fighters, perhaps. And I guess it kind of depends on what setup you have. I'm set up, so my manager relayed information to me instead of me getting indirectly, which in some situations are good. Most situations it is. That's how I've chosen it to be. But in some situations, yeah,

you kind of maybe you miss out on getting the info two hours before. But like in the big scheme of things, how much does that matter? But yeah, for sure, it was it was a bit interesting for this particular situation to kind of reading the MMA websites and stuff like that and see what was happening. But again, this is a quite exceptional situation. So, you know, I'm not, I don't want to nitpick about where I got my information. Like, it evolved so fast.

So, like, it was better to have the information coming out anyway. Just, yeah. There has been a lot said about the payment of fighters. There has been, we were speaking to Ashley Evan Smith last week, who was supposed to fight Molly McCann and she, you know, had flown in from America only to be sent back as soon as she got in. We spoke to Jack Shore as well. I know Dana White has since said you guys would be paid

and we're very glad to hear that because we know the immense work you guys do ahead of these fights even before you step in the octagon. But have you been paid yet or is that process still ongoing? It's still ongoing. It's still unresolved. And I think before there's any, you know, clear. clear definition of what's going to happen. You know, it's not a subject.

I feel needs much discussion until it's kind of resolved, if that makes any sense. Because, yeah, until things I decided, it's difficult to come with any, yeah, proper inputs on it. I get. You guys haven't been communicated, like, if you're getting show, win, all that kind of stuff.

Is that what you're saying? You don't really know the nitty-gritty of it, so to speak? Not yet. All I know is my manager is in dialogue with UFC. And I think what's happening, what's going on is this is a huge situation and they had to cancel more cars. And they're trying to take a big picture look at how they're going to do things. And I don't know if there's insurance in place and they have to take account for that or whatever. but it seems like they're taking their time

and they're doing that because they want to be able to make proper decisions and not just rash in the spare of the moment decisions. So it's taking some time and it's a bit frustrating. The first of the month's coming up and I got bills to pay,

but I'm pretty sure it's going to be resolved in a nice way and if it doesn't, you know, then we'll take it from there. but I feel confident. Yeah, I really hope it happens. I mean, you guys are the pinnacle of the sport. You are elite athletes at the very top of your class.

And I feel like just, and this is just me speaking, Nick, like for Bellator to come out and pay their guys, I know their fighters had weighed in. Just in terms of PR, it doesn't look great for UFC when their biggest rival is maybe sorting their fighters out like that. But I'll move on. I know we don't want to spend too much time on that. How are you, though?

I mean, after all this happened, like, I mean, like, do you come away with this with some type of post-traumatic stress because of the, the ordeal? Because it's insane. As you said, this is a situation none of us have ever been through before, including the UFC, including the organizations. I mean, is it actually, is it hard to just kind of comprehend what happened here? In a way, yes. And in a way, no. I think I heard like, I think, I have. A couple days after it was canceled, I kind of hit a wall where I was feeling a bit annoyed with everything regarding this situation. And like, especially when I had like Canada reminders come up for, oh, now are you supposed to take this flight to London and stuff like that? I got, I had a, had a couple of tough hours inside my head.

But I think because this situation is affecting not just me, but like everybody on the fight card and everybody on the globe. Yes. It kind of, I think differently about the situation. Like, had it been me who got injured or had it been me who made some mistake that, you know, got the fight canceled or whatever, I have felt, I would have felt bad about it, but this is just, you know, it's a global situation. And many people are way worse off than us.

So, and, you know, I'm healthy and in shape to fight another day, and that's, you know, the most important part. Of course, I still hope that the specific fight with Roberts is going to happen when we're able to go down the road again. But in the big picture, you know, I'm still healthy. I'm still able to fight almost whenever. So it's a bummer that this fight didn't happen for many, many reasons. but like what can you do? Absolutely. I mean we were speaking about it just before we came on air here,

but is that a nice reminder for you to, you've posted about how two years ago you began your comeback? And look where you are now. I mean, I know you didn't get the fight last weekend, but you were going to be the co-main event of UFC London after one fight, after coming back and having a sensational fight in your return, and after winning the Cage Warriors title, I mean, does that,

kind of allow you to kind of be thankful for everything that's happened in this in this two-year period yeah like in the in the looking at a big picture a big picture you know it's i'm i'm i'm in a rather good situation um i'm way better off than i was two years ago uh personally and and professionally so it's unfortunate it's fucking annoying to have this thing happen but again it's it's a global situation, it's out of anyone's hands, basically. So you just got to roll with it and get the best out of it. Am I annoyed that I won't be able to fight in the co-main event of UFC London? Yes.

Of course. We all are very upset about this, Nick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the point I'm getting to is, like, I have so much self-belief. I'm just talking personally now. Like, that opportunity is going to come up in the first. future regardless. So it didn't happen now and it sucked because this fight was going to be like almost to

the date on my 10 year's anniversary as a professional fighter and UFC London was the first UFC event I went to as a fan so you know O2 Arena it was there would have been many like things happening for this fight that would have been like full circle moments. from that perspective it was annoying and you know I was very excited for the fight felt in shape but but none of it's like training wise I'm still in the same shape I'm still as good technically now I even have more time to just kind of heal up from some of minor injuries you get throughout fight camp and stuff like that so like in the big picture it's unfortunate but but it's not like a huge setback well that's good it's fantastic to hear your attitude towards all this

we have, as you know, we have a lot of listeners who need some suggestions, some advice on how to deal with this time. And I see you, you're always outdoors, many activities all the time, always up to something as Nicholas Dalby. So I said, I better ask you, what would you recommend our listeners do with the great Eurobash followers? Well, I think, okay, big question. I think in general, if it's allowed or an option in the country you're based in, yeah, get outdoors. Get some fresh air, get some of that sun if it's out. You know, go for a long walk, maybe one or two hours. You know, get your body moving.

Do some exercises. That always helps as well. This is something I usually do anyway and something I've done a lot since I kind of came out of depression as a way to alleviate. slipping back into that. So yeah, just, you know, try and make the best of the situation. Get out, get some exercise. It is what it is, you know. You can't really change what's happening.

So you just got to make the best of it. And yeah, staying active for sure helps. Oh, you know, do projects that you usually don't have the time for, stuff like that. All fantastic suggestions, Mr. Dalby and I want to thank you so much for coming on and speaking to us about this and I hope you and your beautiful family stay very safe and you continue to enjoy your walks and I hope your daughter doesn't get too annoyed with you for keeping her out of school. No, I think she's good. I'm actually very much enjoying spending some time with her because usually when I'm training

for fights it's pretty hectic and I don't have too much time. So the good and the bad situation for the last couple weeks has been that I felt I really connected with her on an entirely new level that I haven't felt before. That's amazing. Yeah, so all is good. But yeah, I hope you and your nearest one stays safe as well. So thank you for having me on. Thank you so much, Nick.

And I hope they get that fight back on. And I'm sure a UFC London Comain event will come your way again, my friend. Oh, yes. Stay safe. All the best, Nick. And always a pleasure to speak. To the Great Dane, Nicholas Dalby. What a man. What a haircut.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so I mean, speaking of Nicholas Dalby, a Cage Warrior's legend as he is, we must talk about the cancellation of Cage Warriors Belfast and Cage Warriors Birmingham. Not cancellation, post-bowman, but significant post-bombing, especially when he consider a lot of the hype for Cage-Ores-Belfast was the fact that Rees-McKee was potentially. going to fight was going to fight for a cage warrior's title and then of course we had ufc dublin coming in august and um you know we taught that and everybody seems to think and graham boilin pretty much told us had reese won that fight he would have been straight to the ufc um you know who said it was definitely a possibility anyway um i think you know that was needed that event to really solidify that for

Reese to become a champion to win when he is the star attraction in his hometown the ovation the love he would have got there would have pushed him over the line for me is it enough to go to the UFC now on the back of a win over Hacken Foss

Noil? Yeah that's the interesting thing and I actually you know I reached text me the other day and he obviously you know massive frustrations but I think you know known Reese and and known what he's capable of down and we saw that basically, you know,

starching Hack on Foss with a job. We've talked about the touch of death for years, man. He's very frustrated, but I wouldn't be surprised if Rees tries to push for this UFC card now because they're going to need local talent. I think it's always sort of a theme and a narrative the UFC look to implement on regional

European cards. And why not? Why not give him a one-fight deal? Why not give him a shot? Because they're going to need guys. That's never going to happen. A one-fight deal's never going to happen. Yeah, that is true. One-fight deal is very unlikely. But why not. You know, Reese is a guy, I think, you know, he compete very well in that UFC 170 pound division. I'd have no qualms about throwing him in there. But, you know, whether it's enough, I'm not too sure. We don't know what's going on as well at the moment. The UFC might push this back to September as well. You know, we just really don't have a clue, Pizzi, in the next three months what's going to happen with this pandemic. So, yeah, with the right call from Cage Warriors to call it off, definitely 100%. But, yeah, Reese is a guy I'd be comfortable with going to. to the UFC now at this point? Oh no I mean

of course we you know of course we want to see an Irish going to UFC and he's a fantastic record he's one world titles at lightweight I mean there's no he's top of the list we've been saying this for years there's no doubt about it but like you know that is a huge thing he's missing out on here like there's no doubt

about it like the fact that you don't get to do that I don't like I think he I think he's in a far more precarious situation like I don't I felt as though that fight happens he definitely goes and now I'm like I don't know, man. I really don't know.

Yeah, but, but, you know, the UFC Dublin card might be pushed back. We don't know where we're going to be. I know, you know, if some, buts and all that, you know, so it could actually work out in his favor if it is pushed back a little bit. But, yeah, Reese's head is wrecked, totally wrecked at the moment. He's moving gaff as well, I believe, in this sort of climate, you know, it's not easy. A lot of things going on in his head at the moment. And, yeah, but Reese is the kind of guy, you know, we've seen him in the past, deal with adversity.

It's not going to stop him from his end going to his dream. He's a very... No, it's not. I'm not for a second suggesting that this is nothing to do with Reese but it is, you know, the whole thing was that event gets him there.

Definitely. You know? It's a lot of upset for everyone. Yeah, and the buzz in the Irish scene. Like, I mean, that,

like, I mean, it was the semi-final as we talked about, PITC. It was that build up to that UFC Dublin card. Yeah,

it was, it's a big one. It's a big, it's a big event to lose out on for Reese without a doubt. Let's see. Well, Again, as you say, we don't even know if August is going to go ahead with the UFC, so we'll have to wait and see. And look, Natoyas Vedrick is another guy there, a middleweight as well.

And they are crying out for our middleweights in the USC, you know, and he's just beating Webb for the title. He was going to get that chance to main event in Birmingham. So, I mean, you know, I feel like this is a very tough one for those two guys in particular, right? Because they were going to have that hometown moment that we have seen do so much good, good work for fighters who are trying to get to the octagon. Yeah, it's just, it's, yeah, it's heartbreaking for those guys, but it's just the sort of, you know, timer in at the moment. Like, you can't really rely on anything happening from one day to the next, literally, which is just fucked up. I never thought we'd see a moment like this. And it's very, very tough for a fighter at the moment to wrap their head around anything.

And, you know, I've talked to a lot of guys, and I'm sure you have with the situation. It's, you know, what? Cutting weight and everything, like, do you know what I mean? And they don't know where it's happening or not. And we saw that, obviously, with the last sort of U.S. FC London and Bellator cards. It's just fucked up shit, man. But there's nothing we can do about it.

You know, it's out of our control. Speaking of people who miss out on a title opportunities due to coronavirus, we will now go to our interview with the great Morgan Charié, a man who is so passionately supported in France. Morgan Charieree? Did you ask him questions like this, Pizzi? Yeah. Morgan?

Right. So he, like, he left France early to get to that event. Yeah, I know. He rang his opponent and was like, you're going to get locked in your country if you don't leave now. This is, this is according to Morgan. The opponent says,

oh yeah, we'll definitely leave. Morgan gets there on Monday. And on Wednesday, his opponent rings and says, I can't travel anymore. So devastated. He returns to France on the Wednesday then.

Doesn't even stay for the event. And look, it's a crazy situation for him. And he has, he dropped a bit of a bomb there on Mads Bernel. What's he said? You know, Mads Bernel.

it seems like Morgan isn't too confident that Mads will be fighting with Cage Warriors for his next fight. He doesn't know and he's kind of saying if Mads Bernal doesn't fight me, he's going to get stripped of the title. I'm fighting for the title whether it's Mads or it's not. Now nowhere, malice really there, as he said, to Mads,

but just the situation, that's one to look out. I know Mads has recently signed with Ali Abdel Aziz and Dominance MMA. Someone who would definitely be a good man to get you to the UFC and imagine. Yeah. But yeah, interesting one. Always a pleasure to speak to Morgan.

A crazy, crazy situation. Of course, that led to the cancellation of his interim title fight. Very interested to see what happens next here. But here's Morgan. We'll be back in about 15 minutes. Once again, we are joined by the Fighting Pride of France, Morgan Charié, who was supposed to fight for the Cage Warrior's interim title last weekend in Manchester, an event which originally was meant to happen in London.

But unfortunately, for Morgan, his opponent did not travel to the event, and he even tried to make a new fight when he found that his opponent would not travel, but he couldn't make it happen. Morgan, a lot of people were very excited to see you fight last weekend. Obviously, the coronavirus situation has had a big impact on the sport in general, but how did it feel to have everything fall apart at the last minute? It was heartbreaking, you know? where me and my team

we travel on Monday to be sure to leave the country the France before the lockdown so we have taken our flight early and I have

I've had a chat with my opponent and I said to him you need to come right now if you don't want to get lock out you can go back to your country after the fight, but you can't come if you are locked down. So everything was good. My opinion was saying, yeah, I will come and I need an hour.

And then the day, the Wednesday, he said, I don't come. Wow. And so everything was fucked. We tried to find a replacement, but find someone on two days notice to make the 155, it's really hard. So more fight. Wow, that sounds incredibly frustrating. How are you very angry with Darko Banovich because he didn't get on the plane when you said?

So I remember you tweeted that you were traveling early and this got a lot of traction online. I mean, did you think after talking to Darko that he would leave immediately for the fight? How do you feel about him in general? Yeah, I'm a bit angry because I think he knows he didn't want to come. know, and I think his way to pull out honorably. So he makes us trust him and say, yeah, I'm coming and coming, but he know he wouldn't, and then he didn't, and he let me like that, like that, no fact. And if he, he just tells us, you know, I don't want to come the situation and I can understand.

And we maybe we could find someone in one week notice, but two days before the, the fight. That's six. Yes, absolutely. So what happened when you got to England? Did you arrive in England on Monday? I'm sure it was a very confusing situation. I mean, the event was supposed to happen in London. It gets moved to Manchester. As we know, coronavirus is spreading around the world as this is happening. What was it like to be there in London on Fight Week? It was really stressful, you know because so in like in two hours with my team we said you know what we go right now so we have booked ticket and we're coming from France to London we take the OroStar and we have in London we have taken an Airbnb and we have staying in it so we don't you know we don't go where

there are too much people to don't get that various and we have 20 and in the Airbnb We stayed there. I was getting weight and that's why the stressful situation because about one day in London they say, okay, no, we go to Manchester. So we have to book another tickets to go to Manchester. And I'm like, oh, I hope I'm going to fight because it's really hard. You know, I'm not in my house. It's hard to cut weight when you don't have everything you are used to. So this was a bit stressful and then my opponent don't come and everything. It's crazy. This is so crazy. So what day did you find out Wednesday that your opponent pulled out? On Tuesday night, I think my manager started to tell me maybe he would not come and they are trying to find something. And then on Wednesday morning, they tell me they are trying to make something.

And then on Wednesdays day, they tell me they are trying to make something. And then on Wednesday, they tell me, no. you're not going to fight, get back home. Wow. So two days before the fight, that is so, so hard to take. Did you try to seek other opponents? I know Perry Goodwin and Steve Amable were on the card too. Did you try to see if one of those guys would fight you instead?

Was there any options on the card? Yeah, what happened? Definitely. What I've tried, what I've said to Steve and Perry, if one of them want to fight me and those are one that should have a fight with a guy who they find to take on short notice there's a this will be a fight on lightweight but none of these or this both of these guys say okay they say no we are going to fight each other so they say no oh no I understand but I would prefer that one of them take the fight against

me, but I do, you know, they have prepared, they fight, they have game playing, so I understand they don't want to fight. So when did you go home? Did you stay? Did you go to the event on Friday? How did you play it? Did you go home on Thursday when you knew you weren't going to fight or what did you do? No, I'm going straight back to France on Wednesday.

Yes, yes. Yeah. I'm sure you feel as though that's a good idea in light of everything that has happened. Yeah, it was better because if I don't know, maybe everything got pretty fast and then everything got local, then I get blocked in London. I prefer to come back home and stay there with my family because I had no fight, so I had nothing to do in London or Manchester. So it was preferred to come back. What is the situation like in France? Are you and your family and friends safe? Yeah, yeah, we're set, but I think all the world are in the same situation, no?

So everything is locked up. We don't get out or just to buy food, but we don't go out. We are not allowed to go out, so we are just waiting until two weeks again, and maybe they will say we still get confined, so we'll see. How are you dealing with everything after this situation happened? And I'm sure you had completely changed your life in preparation for this fight only for it to be taken away on two days' notice. And now you can't even leave your house. Is this a hard situation for you?

Yeah, because for this fight, I've made everything to win it. So I've had a hard preparation. And I was just doing training, sleeping, training, sleeping. I know I'm stuck in my home. But, you know, I'm staying positive. I know I will fight again for that title. So that's just a matter of time. So I'm training in my house.

I have a small room where I have weight. I saw bike and row. So I still manage my shape. And I'm just waiting to all of this be over. And then I will go back to training. I will still be in good shape. And I'll be ready to go and fight someone to get title.

Yes. You said you know you're going to fight for the title. Did Graham say that you will be fighting for the interim title, or do you think you will be fighting Mads Bernal? I don't know. I don't know what Mads is doing, but I think he didn't want to come back to Cage Warrior. He's taking his time and he's the champ, so he had to defend his belt. And he had one time where he can say, um, he's taking his time.

doing other things so I was supposed to fight to the rental him title bell but no this fight he is gone he don't have a lot of choice he he come back and we fight or he don't come back and he gets striped I think that's logic who would you do you think um you know who do you think you should fight for the title a lot of people are saying perry goodwin I mean if it's not mads a lot of people think perry goodwin put on a fantastic display against steve amable a guy who fought Mads for the title recently. Do you think Perry Goodwin would be a potential opponent if Mads Bernel is stripped of the title

and you need a challenger? Yeah, I think this is the guys who had his win. He's on three or four-fight with win streak. I think he made some good performance. And right now, if you look at the Fezor Ray Carlyreier, he's one of the guy you can see fighting for that title. So, yeah, maybe.

I'm not the one in charge of that, is the matchmaker, but, yeah, Perry could be an option for the Cage Warrior. Yes, I would definitely love to see either you and Mads or you and Perry, two great fights. But I really wanted to ask you, Morgan, everything, the last time you were on this show, I was saying, like, everything is set up for you in 2020.

You are fighting for the Cage Warriors title. You are clearly a hugely famous, fighter from France where the sport has just become legalized. And now this happens. This is crazy. Everything was supposed to happen for you this year. It felt like it would. Is that, is that, um, hard to deal with the fact that it all seemed to be right in front of you within touching distance. And now there's so much uncertainty. Yeah. Yeah, really. Uh, like, I was like, yeah, this year is my, yeah, I'm, I'm going to kill everything. And if, uh, yeah, you, you, you, you, This is why this is helping.

Because I should be right now the Kays Vario World Champion, after World Champion. And then in June, I would pass off meds maybe in London. And then if I got this win, got the UFC call for a French show in Henan in 2020. But no, I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah. You know, that's the fight game.

So I just need to be patient. keep winning, keep doing great performance and maybe I will still get this call in the hand of 20 or maybe next year, but I just need to win that belt and stay in the champ. Are you still

able to film your show? I know you told us last time that you have this hugely popular show on YouTube. Are you still able to make content for your fans or is the show taking a break for a while? No, we are still doing thing.

My friends or Camel, who lost the weight, is still doing things. I'm still doing thing. We don't make any of the show I don't know how to say it, but... In the same format, the way it usually is. It probably is different. Yeah, yeah.

It's like we don't put anything on YouTube we let it do this, but we continue, we continue to work. Even if he's confined, he's training and hedging good, but we can't, you know, find an edit right now. It's a bit complicated, but we are doing other stuff. Like, I record my training.

I record a lot of things. So people keep saying things and keep and staying active and they see a lot of things. So we keep doing all things. I just hope he doesn't get fat again because you've put an awful lot of work in, Morgan. You don't want this guy eating all the cake. No, I send him message every day, like, what are you doing? What are you doing right now? I wanted to ask you about your dog.

A lot of people have been tagging me in videos of your dog. He looks incredible. Is he giving you a lot of fun in this time of isolation? A dog is a great friend to have in these circumstances, right? Yeah, really, really. He's a really funny dog. He's young. It's like one year old, but he's a dog.

but he's really smart and he i don't know why but he's funny he's doing everything rare but i'm training him and he you know a lot of stuff uh a lot of of um i don't know to say but he can do a lot of things but sometimes he do weird things and then i record this and people like to see yes i look i love the video of him sitting down with his arm resting of a chair, amazing. Yeah, he do this every time, on the car, and everywhere. I don't know why he sits like that. What's his name?

Aris. Oh, beautiful. That's a great name. A great name for a fighter's dog, especially. Yeah, really. So, I know we don't know when we're going to be getting you back in the cage. I know a lot of our listeners want some advice on what they should do during their time in isolation. Do you have any films, workouts, video games,

any TV shows, films, our listeners should check out while they're in isolation? That's sad because I think they don't all speak French. Yes, true. Every day at 6 p.m., I do a workout online on the Instagram of Descartes. It's a French. Oh, you know? DeCathlon?

Yeah. Yes. Yeah, so it's a sport market in France, big one. And so I'm working for them for the confinement. And every day at 6pm, I go live on Instagram and I do workouts and people can follow it. Wow. So that's good. That keeps the people active and positive and I'm doing my stuff.

Everybody does you like it. That's good. Do, will I be able to do the workout? or is it for athletes because I'm not very athletic? No, no, no, no. I try to make it available for everybody. You know, I say you can do this if you don't have the level or you can do that. And then me, I do the artist level and sometimes I do the EZE.

So everybody who watch can do something. Amazing. I'm going to check this out. And I hope all of our Eurobash listeners also check it out because they are big fans of yours, Morgan. And I really, really hope that this year gets back on track for you. I think you have the world at your feet. And I hope you can get everything that you're looking for in 2020. And I hope you and your family stay safe as well, my friend.

And your dog, Aries, of course. Yeah. All the best, my friend. Thank you. Thank you. Bye, bye. And thank you very much to the great Morgan Charié. Morgan Chattier.

As we say in Blanchetown. And his dog, Ares, what a legend. Great to hear about him. I love that dog. Who was it to tag me in there last week? I think it was Sean Denny, the great Denny Rants. He had, he tagged me in some pictures of air. He's a beautiful doggy.

I hope everyone is staying safe in France, of course. Yeah, big time. Let's talk about it. John Jones. Again. Oh, God. Does it ever end? Is there a year we can just go without John Jones, not getting in trouble?

Seriously, it's fucking madness. Like, when is the guy you're going to learn? Like, come on. It's, you know, he's going to out get locked up. He's going to get stripped to the title. The UFC are going to have to act on this. And this is another interesting thing that, you know, in the next few days, if we hear from Dana what he's going to do? And, like, what do you do with him?

Like, it's got to that point now where he's had so many chances. Like, what do you generally do with him? It's bonkers. Yeah. And for those of you who missed the news, the UFC light heavyweight champion faces multiple charges, including aggravated DWI from an arrest on Thursday, morning in Albuquerque, you know, with that the footage has been revealed of him, you know, doing the sobriety test, claiming he, you know, I think he says he has ADHD or anxiety when he's

trying to do the test. But like, look, before, you know, I'm not here to lambast to do. Jesus, we've done that like every single time and obviously doesn't, um, doesn't really do much for the situation. But this guy clearly has an alcohol or drug problem. and it hasn't been dealt with no matter how many times he's pretty much made an example of himself this is a UFC product

this is a guy that they took into their roster as a young kid he became one of the youngest champions ever he has been dominant he's had run-ins with USADA he's had run-ins with the law you know he's a problem child he's a problem child to the UFC without a doubt

but he's got a problem he's got a drug problem he's got an alcohol problem certainly some type of problem with substance abuse and it has not been corrected. You know, even when we hear him speaking to Ariel Elwani and stuff like that, these big interviews he did, you know, on his redemption tour, he talks about how he's still drinking and he still smokes

and just not as much I have a handle on it. That's crazy, man. You clearly don't have a handle on this. You're out of control. It's insane to think our LeBron James is on the side of the road and, you know, with a gun in his car, smoking joints and talking to homes people, basically. I don't know.

This is all alleged, of course. You know, from the police reports that Mike Heck wrote up for MMAFighting.com, it seems as though, you know, they were responding to a gunshot and there's a bullet beside Jones's car. Like, this is fucking wild. It's worrying not just for the people around them. It's worrying for him and everyone else that's involved with John Jones. I think sort of the interesting thing as well you can sort of take from this is a lot of his

team aren't really aware of what's going on. I think we've spoken with members of team before in this show. And, you know, there's a sense of he's the sort of master manipulator, John Jones, of every sort of situation. And it is. It's very worrying. And I think the UFC have to act immediately on this and make a very swift and harsh decision, whether it's them helping him out and, you know, put him into rehab or, you know,

stripping the title, maybe all of the above or maybe suspending him indefinitely for a longer period of time. And I think that example does need to be said at this stage because, you know, he's jeopardized. his health and the people around him and the public around them obviously, you know, getting in a car under the influence again. It's just crazy.

It's, like, how many times does this happen? Like five, six times? Countless, but like, I mean, here, like, I mean, why do we suddenly expect UFC to do something responsible? That is true. You know, like, I mean, Jesus,

there's a global pandemic going on. They're trying to get as many international fighters into the fucking confine space as they can. I mean, what is the right thing to do? Like, I feel like, You know, I think you've got to, you know, strip him of the title. You've got to strip him of the title. But I think cutting him, that could lead to even bigger problems.

You know, you're kicking a guy into the mud when he's already down there, you know. I don't know if a guy who has this substance abuse issues and stuff like that would react well to being cut from a roster, even though, as you said, this is not the first time. And, you know, it's hard to think it will be the last because people don't even care anymore. Do you remember you got into an incident in a gentleman's club last year or whatever it was? No one even gave a shit like the next day it was coming, it came and went. And, you know, it's just basically that's the behavior they expect from John Jones now. And this guy is like, he gets so annoyed and, you know, he has this air about him that, who are we to be asking about this? Like, people are genuinely concerned for one of the greatest fighters of all time.

Definitely. This is mental. I agree. And I think, you know, I'm not sure the way the US system works in terms of, you know, what they do with repeat offenders. But he must be at a stage now where he could be looking at a lot of jail time because it just seems that he's not learning his lesson. And he's going to be in front of a judge again, I would imagine, soon.

And you can't imagine when it's accumulating as much as it has over the last year that it's going to be a good end result for John Jones. And maybe it's a blessing in disguise that something like this might happen to him. here's another thing noyle it's not like it was when he was this untouchable dude um he's not been the most convincing champ at the moment either like i mean he's had two exceptionally close fights recently um does that change the situation when it's maybe he isn't box office tv he isn't uh putting exclamation marks on his wins is it a different situation uh because of that maybe yeah well maybe it is you know who knows what day

Dana White's thinking, I don't mean to laugh about that, but, you know, it really is up to Dana these sort of decisions at the end of the day, and he's never had the greatest relationship with John Jones, and that's not going to help either with this happening again. So, yeah, maybe the UFC might just be glad at this point to, you know, wash their hands and maybe get rid of him. You know, who knows what's going to happen? I do think the UFC need to make some sort of example from John Jones here this time more than ever, but, you know, I wouldn't bank in that either. You know, who knows with Dana, but it's going to be very interesting to see what happens in the coming weeks with this because as I said there you know the you know if he is in front

of a judge again it can't be too good for John Jones is he a loss cause I think so at this point I'm not surprised you know like you just go off for fuck sake here how many times can you throw the world away like I mean it's this is a guy it's the world at his feet uh since day one and you made a great point there his performance of definitely deteriorated we sort of gave him that sort of bit of leeway in the fight against Santos, you know, that you know, he's back from

a long while out, a couple of injuries, all that sort of shit. And then we saw the performance, obviously, against Dominic Reyes, but, you know, Reyes was very good in that fight, so was Santos, don't get me wrong, but it was far from vintage John Jones. We didn't see some of the improvements we saw when he fought Cormier.

So, listen, I don't know, it is a mad situation, but yeah, there could be that element of it as well, that he's on the downward spiral in terms of his fighting career and that they might just go, let's just forget about it. It's a very, very tricky one man. But just disappointing again.

It's nearly lost in the shuffle though, isn't it? I mean, it's just so much, like this thing now. People, as you said, they're a peatsy. People have sort of, we've forgotten about it already after 24 hours because people are so fed up of this happening. They're so sick of it happening. It's such a regular occurrence that we've moved on to the next biggest story, which is obviously Habib and Tony sort of fallen by the wayside,

by the looks of it. So that's what I mean. Like it's not this long dragged out sort of saga anymore where people invest so much of their time and emotions into it that they sort of just don't give a shit anymore because he's just a lost cause, possibly at this point. All right, going to your head, did they strip him out of the title? Yeah, I think so.

Do they suspend them? Yeah, I think so. Right. Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. They don't cut them though, I don't think. No, I don't think so, no. Right. Yeah, well, look,

let's hope John gets a handle on a situation and I mean that genuinely from the bottom of your heart it's terrible to see a talent like this one of our greatest ever fighters continue to go into this spiral but look we spoke to Morgan Sharier about his title opportunity

with Cage Warriors being taken off the plate on fight week how about it being taken off the plate on fight day because that's what happened to Pedro Carvalo ahead of his fight with Patricio Pippel the biggest fight of his life absolutely unbelievable.

We've had Pedro on the show a number of times now, but every time he's on, we learn something new about him. And what a story he tells today about how the birth of his son completely led to this unbelievable run he is putting together with Cage Wars. He is in Portugal now and joins him with Belator.

Sorry, what did I say? Cajwerners. Oh, sorry, sorry. I was already on the next sentence we had. Bellator, of course. My God. Yeah, look, it's great to see. Portugal, he's enjoying some time with his family.

You know, we know that Pedro spends all of his time in Ireland and, you know, his family are in Portugal, so I'm sure this is a very, very nice time for him, despite all the craziness of his title shot going amiss. But look, let's go and talk to Pedro. We'll be back in about 20 minutes. So talk to his then. And now I am joined by Pedro Carvalho all the way in Portugal, who was supposed to fight Patricio Pitbull for his one.

world title. Last weekend, it's, sorry, two weekends ago now, Pedro, the whole of the European MMA space was nearly in tears when we found out that you had successfully

weighed in for your fight with Patricio Pitbull and then the fight was off. I have so many questions. I even heard that this was out there in the public before the fighters found out about it. I don't know how it happened. I'm dying to find out. But first of all,

how are you? Are you safe? Is your family safe and are all your friends safe? As you go and Pete, yeah, everything is fine, you know. We follow the rules as everyone, or at least as everyone should be. And we are staying home, you know,

and that's it. There's no much else to do, you know. That's it. But everything is fine. That's good to hear. That's good to hear. Obviously, health and safety of family and friends is our main concern at the moment. And of course this growing concern,

And the spreading of the coronavirus is what led to your Bellator title bout with Patricio being pulled. But can you let us know how that went? I mean, you had weighed in and everything, right? Yeah, so on Wednesday of fight week, it was told me that the fight was still on, but you will be close to the public. So I was just like, fine, you know, what matters is the guy show up and I can beat him. That's it. That's the only thing that I want. And then, wagons came.

We waited, we did mocking wagons. And we arrived to the fight day, you know, and I was at my room, having some rest, about to take a nap. And then I

received a message from my manager. And then I went to Twitter and I saw a Twitter from Scott Cookers announcing their Bellator show will be canceled and man that was

that was heartbreaking that was a heartbreaking moment but and I need a couple of hours you know and and even like three days after I was like I was arriving in Portugal and I was

collecting my luggage and I was such on a weird feeling. I would look like I was in a bad dream, a weird bad dream because I was coming back home with nothing, with nothing, when I mean nothing, with like no belt, no fight, no nothing. And it was like really weird.

I'm not going to say bad. It was bad, but it was more weird than the bad. But in the end of the day, I'm happy that Bellator made a decision. and it only proves that they also are concerned about our health, you know, and our health is a priority to them. And I'm really happy that they made the decision. And they showed us that our health, our lives matters to them,

and not only the money or the profit of the shows, you know. So I'm really happy that they made that decision. Yes, I mean, it must be a very strange situation, Pedro. When the goalposts are changing all the time, Everything seemed to be changing day to day, as you said, behind closed doors and then eventually the cancellation. But I know that fighters visualize a lot. They visualize what the crowd will be like. They visualize how they walk out.

Was it very stressful when things were changing, like when it got pushed behind closed doors? And I'm sure even traveling to the event was a concern in some ways because this was ramping up all the time. It kept on getting more and more severe every day, even every hour it felt like. To be honest, like, I was, man, like, I'm always like that, but especially for this fight, I was like 300% focused. I really didn't care. One, bullocks to that, you know, like, I didn't care. Like, things were changed, but I just was so focused on a fight that I just didn't lose time thinking about nothing. Like, if they came to me and say, Pedro, look, we only can do the fight at the lobby of the hotel.

okay for you okay bring me the gloves doesn't matter I didn't care at all I didn't care at all you know but you know it is what it is these kind of things is out of our hands and like I've said before like

these sensitive times it's time to not be selfish and I think about oh I could be like world champion on this and they're like listen I will be world champion sort of later so these times are no times to be selfish and think about ourselves.

And we must, we must, like, be on all of these together as one. And just do what, you know, the high entities tell us to do. Because the fastest we do all this together, the fastest we get back to our lives normally. Absolutely. Well said, Pedro. I'm just wondering, like, I mean,

we've been talking about your amazing story, you know, how you basically move to Ireland and put all your chips in this basket, all your chips on the table to become a world champion, and there you are about to fight for a world title, and it gets taken away by a situation that's completely out of your hands. Is that an emotional moment when you find that out? Like a man who was given up everything

and gained so much over the last two years, then to find out this isn't happening, is that an emotional moment when it feels as though maybe your dream has been taken away, at least postponed until a later date? you know like it was tough it was really really tough on the first like two hours you can imagine specifically specifically at the time that i found out was really really tough but then i cooled down then um like it's it's kind of okay because um me being world champion is something that is inevitable

be at the top of this sport it's something that is inevitable so it doesn't really I don't really care if it was on the 13 of March or it's going to be someone later this year or next year. I don't care. That moment will happen. Maybe at the top of the sport will happen. So I really don't care and I'm not even thinking about, oh, that was my chance. No, I will have plenty of more chance. I will be multiple times champion, you know, like so I don't care.

You know, I visualize myself be at the top of the sport. I know what I'm capable of. I know that, you know, I did the hard part that is be where I am right now. Be what I am right now is, believe me, the hardest thing to achieve. And I did it. So whoop these guys' eyes, it's just the fun part. So I'm not really, I'm not really, and I don't want to really lose too much time, think about, because that's bad, you know, that's bad for your head, you know, hit with a lot.

head on the wall like oh i could be world chamber right now oh i miss my chat like fuck it i don't care i will have my chance i will have my chance and and beside you know i have a contract so i know for sure sooner or later i will find patricio inside of the cage and and besides like i just said i know where i'm going to be i know i'll be in the top of the sport so it's not a thing that worse me you know i know what i'm capable and know what i'm going to be well it was going to to ask you, is it hard to find motivation? But you certainly have answered that already. I feel like you still remain as motivated as ever.

You know, yeah, you know, like I found myself probably as same or even more motivated than I was, you know, like because, not only because all this situation, you know, it just made me more angrier, more, more, I want more this than ever. but also because, like I said, I tried to find positivity and good things, especially on the bad situations. And on this particular one, you know, like almost the first two weeks, when I came to Portugal, I didn't come straight to meet my girlfriend and my son. I was at my mom's house, you know. I did there the quarantine just and it was really

I was really grateful to have the experience because I didn't I didn't spend that that much time like straight like sleeping and and living at my mom's I was like since I moved to Ireland basically and

and be back there when where everything started you know and see the posters that I had when I was a teenager dreamer and and and and and and and and and around all of that environment where a few years ago I was only a dreamer you know dreaming that I will be what I am right now and it just gave me such a boost and and a proud feeling of myself you know and and and right now I couldn't be

even more motivated to do more and want more so you know that that's that's what I tried to do and I think everyone should try to do. It's a complicated time, but we should focus on the positives, or at least find a solution to find the positives and not focus on the bad stuff. What posters were on your wall? No, posters, like, you know, the show posts, like the first shows that I participated. Wow. Cool.

Or other stuff, like, when I was, like, really a kid. you know like like fight stuff you know like really things probably 10 years ago or something and you know it's it's it's it was pretty pretty good and pretty cool you know and it was just fine to be surround and and be around you know be in in my house in my in my home grown house and and everything the atmosphere everything you know it was was just cool was like an every day was kind of a meditation to me like be on my own, do my workout and then

be surrounded and think man 10 years ago I was dreaming to be in a position that I am right now and that's just amazing the feeling that I was feeling was just amazing and right now I'm just super pumped and I'm just focused on that I'm just focused on that

I'm not I don't really want to think about like when it's going to be or how long this is going to be like I'm in a good place you know I'm with my kid, I'm with my girlfriend, I'm healthy, and I'm happy. That's what really concerns me. The rest is rest, and when the time comes, the time will come, and when the time will arrive, I will become the Federal World Champion.

So no rush about it. The things will happen. Yes, that's an amazing insight. And I'm just wondering, you know, you spoke to us before the fight, and you were kind of talking about how you spent, you know, you didn't get to spend an awful lot of time with your son as much as you would have liked while you were preparing for all of these fights

and this fantastic run you've put together with Bellator. But what's that been like? I mean, I saw the post that you put up yesterday, I believe it was, or over the weekend at some stage, and you look so happy. So happy. And your son looks so happy. I mean, this must be an amazing bonding moment

for you guys in this crazy situation. Yeah, it's been crazy, you know, because, so this goes all back to 17, 2017, when I just had my first fight representing SVG in Cage Legacy in front of like 100 people. And finally, because it was a tough year, it was our first year in Ireland, and it was really tough.

And finally, we got like a really good thing. That was my first fight that just won. And we come back, and my girlfriend, told me that she need to talk with me. And she said that she was pregnant. And then all of a sudden, I have no floor. I didn't know what to do. And because basically the things, our salary was only to pay bills.

That's it. We didn't have much more money to anything else. So having a kid, it's an extra, extra thing that you have. it's extra extra bill that's it absolutely yeah and so I didn't know what to do and then we came out with this solution that she went she will come back

to Portugal I will stay in Ireland and then we'll see and so she could also have the safest pregnancy possible so then I have my second fight for Kage Legacy I won and like one month later that's when I got a message from John from John Kauner

about the first fight in Bellator one fight deal and yeah and then there was like my son and then I went to London you know I quit my job before

before the fight I won the fight I got my contract and then basically and then I went to Portugal my son was born and I came back on August and they stay here and basically

for 18 months There was my fight against Luca Vitale in Italy, Deracampos and some Sicilia, all those fights. My mentality was, losing never was an option for me. But in this particular case, I couldn't even afford to that because I knew if I would sleep,

there would be extra eight months, or at least eight months away from my son. So I was fighting, I was fighting not only for my, my son's future, but also to bring him back close to me, you know, to be able to have financially, well, to be all together in Ireland. So all those three, I was just in killing mode. And the results are visible because those three fights, three fights, three finishes,

and that's just represent what a man wants really something. And that's what I'm referring when I say that. All these guys, they say they want this, they want this, but they don't really know what means to want something, you know, to be able to, you know, to give your life to something. And that's how much this sport, all these, it's not about me being the best, only. It's much, much, much more else.

And that's just the quick example. So, like, coming back to your question, being able to now be close to my, my kid, you know, do my workout or whatever and finishing and be able to work him and be close to them. It's just, it's a blessing and I'm grateful and, you know, life is good. You must be very proud of yourself, Pedro. That's incredible. That's an incredible story. I mean, look what you've done since you found out that, you know, your partner was pregnant. That's incredible. Yeah, like, like I always say, it's, um, you decide what you are.

and what your life is like you want, you know, like finding a solution or finding an excuse, it's always an option. And for me, finding excuse never was an option. Always was finding a solution, stay positive, and, you know, good things sooner or later will happen. And that was mainly my focus from 13 years old. I know when they haven't made thing for me never was a thing. because I believe that everyone around me will say, come on, Pietro, MMA will never give you a future.

And I doubt and I say, man, you will see, you all will see. And all the way to this situation with my son, be away from my son. So I always kept positive. And I know what I'm capable. I know what my work and my belief together are capable of. And I just say faithful to myself. And I know, you know, beating guys, whooping their guys, that's just the easy part.

And I'll go back to the question that everyone made me the most before this fight. There was fighting for the World Belt and fighting a guy like Patricio, bring me extra pressure. And I just answer them. Like, fighting for doing what I love and fighting for a World Belt just doesn't bring any pressure to me. Pressure to me is doesn't know if I will have enough money like I was when. when I was living in my mom's house, if we'll have enough money to have food or pay the bills, or when I was living in Ireland,

if I would have enough money also to pay the bills or this or that, that's pressure. That's real pressure. Fighting for a world title or doing what I love doesn't bring any pressure to me. It just is just joy, it just enjoy. So that's it, you know, that's pretty it. That's an amazing story, man. You should be incredibly proud of yourself for everything you've achieved already,

and you're going to achieve so much more, as we know. But I wanted to ask you, we just were talking about financial pressure, Pedro. A lot is being made of the UFC London fighters not being paid yet, as opposed to you guys who were all paid show and win money after weighing in. I know you were teammates on that card for UFC London, which was cancelled on the week of the fight. Like, did you expect the UFC to pay up at this day? I think a lot of people have.

And in fact, a lot of people think it looks bad that the UFC haven't paid these fighters given how Bellator compensated you guys immediately. Yeah, like, I don't really have an opinion about how UFC. You know, I'm a Belator fight. And what concerns me is that the company for the work for, they just, you know, they did the unbelievable and great action there they did. You know, they took care of.

of their own athletes and that's it. I think that just gives the impression of the right impression because if you have a company and you have your workers, their work on daily, you know, they have their families, they have their bills and they are working to keep the best show for you and they go out there, they cancel the fight and they don't pay the fighters. They're just, you know, they're just bad. You know, that's just really bad.

But like I said, like I, that's... really don't bother me because and I don't care because I don't have much to say because I'm not a UFC fighter, I'm a Bellator fighter and what concerns me is that Bellator took care of all the athletes in

the show there was council and that's for me it's just amazing. Yes it is. It's very admirable. I must say that as well. Just finally Pedro, a lot of people listening to Eurobash, they need some things to do. They're bored. They have nothing to do. Do you have any film

recommendations? Do you have any fight recommendations? Do you have any workout recommendations? Anything you can tell them to do at all here? They want to be like a champ like you. Like, first of all, like, I think, I think the most important aspect to, you know, to have anything in this life, it's a mental part, you know. We, we must believe, must stay focused and we must stay faithful to our priorities. But in these times, you know, just trying to, like, Basically wise, it's good to do anything. Just anything. It's better than stay in the couch all day.

Just anything like the circuit of syrups, push-ups, something like that. The minimal, at least, is always better than couch. And film-wise, you know, that's so much stuff, you know. I just finished the second season of Narcos, Mexico. Is it good? I really enjoy that. From all the narcos, like the other narcos never hooked me up. And this one got me stuck with it from the very first season.

I like that was my favorite one. But, you know, there's so many shows. And people just, you know, I think as long people watch something they like, that's what really matters because, like I said, we are going through tough times. And as long people stay happy. stay focus on good stuff and that's that's where it matters and if it's possible to people see something that he actually has some content that will inspire them and make them you know re-evaluate some

stuff on their lives you know because we are on the period that we can do much we are stuck in our homes so I think people should embrace these times as they have no much to do to you know re-evaluate all their life, you know, see, look at the past, look at the present, and look at the future and see what they really want, the place they are, and what can do, you know, change if they want to something else, you know, because it's never good to really, really, really stay in a comfort zone. So I think people just took this as a blessing and maybe, you know, do something else, who knows, you know, if these bad times cannot be a good opportunity. to people change their lives. So I think that's the most important stuff.

You're an inspirational man, Pedro Carvado. That was an incredible incredible insight into your mind. I am so happy that you are being so positive and you're surrounded by your loved ones and everyone is safe and healthy. I can't wait for you to fight for that title, Pedro. But until then, thank you so much for joining us again. It was a pleasure. Thank you, Pitchin. It is always a pleasure to me to have a shot with you. It's always a good crack. I hope your family stay safe and of course you stay safe and we'll talk to you again soon hopefully.

Yeah, absolutely 100%. Stay safe for you and your loved ones and stay positive, that's it. Amazing. Talk to you soon, Pedro. Yeah, see you later, busy. I have a good one. And great to speak to Pedro again. What an inspirational duty is. Yeah, he is. His story is unbelievable, man.

Just such a welcoming, friendly guy and very focused and real family guy as well as you said there. great great great great sort of representative for for portuguese mixed martial arts of credit really yeah absolutely absolutely um yeah so how have you been i guess i haven't is all your family's still good everyone's still healthy yeah well look yeah no listen like it it's affecting everyone really at the moment a couple of friends think they have it they've been tested and stuff like that so a family member of mine is waiting on results they're okay though they're improving um um so It's worrying, man.

It's worrying for everyone, you know. It's just sort of the nature of the situation we're in. But listen, you've got to look to the positives. And just sort of be grateful that we can try and get all over together. I think the Irish people in general are doing a great job here. Like, I put up a couple of drone shots you might have seen on Twitter and there of people actually staying in. Yesterday morning was crazy, man.

I put the drone up for like 10, 15 minutes around double 14 here. And there wasn't a sin around the road. Like, this is 10 o'clock in the morning. No one. It was like a ghost town. And the same this evening at Rush Air. There was three, four cars in the roads. So people in general in Dublin are doing their thing.

And I just hope it is the same across the rest of the city. I know there's been a few incidents. So people just need to cop the fuck on. If this can go from one person to, you know, hundreds of thousands of people around the world and cause so many deaths, it can happen to anyone. It's right on our doorstep. And I just think people really need to grasp that home now.

But it's, yeah, listen, it's just tough. And I'm sure you're the same as well over there, but your farms and all your, you're worried about your mom and dad and you know everyone's that way it's a stressful time but we just got to think of the positives really i just am already thinking about conspiracy theory here because if your people are getting tested and the north sodas aren't i'm starting to scratch my head my good friend colin morozo has been waiting for a test for three goddamn weeks yeah that's that happened to my friends well i think i think he only has one symptom that's why though you know i don't even has it anymore to be

honest yeah that's what what has to happen you have to have severe symptoms have had um you know their tests sort of go ahead and stuff like that. So it's just mad, man. It's a mad situation. It's unprecedented. And I think they obviously have to look after the people who are ill are first, which is, you know, which is understandable,

really is. Yeah. I'm drinking a lot still. I'm not going to like to you. It's still happening. It's mad. Everyone's saying that. I don't know.

You said this last time, but you're still having a few cans on the daily. No, no. I wasn't daily. No, not at all. That's rubbish. No, no. Honestly,

I swear to God, I Friday, I had four. That's what you said to me last week. I did. Maybe, well, I haven't been drinking, I definitely haven't to be drinking cans daily. Not at all. I've actually drank less than the last three weeks than I've drank in years.

I'd four cans, half cans. You know the small little pale ale cans? I had four them. What? That's, yeah, Chiefton they're called. No, no, I had Brooklyn IPAs. They're the same size can as a chief in like 3.30 mil cans of Coke. I'd four of them, and I had two cans last night.

And that's, I didn't drink. That was the... I'm still drinking over a week, 10 days before that. That's still drinking. No, but I'd normally go out on a Friday and Saturday night on Sunday probably. And drink 15 on a regular basis. It's not that shocking that you're drinking less seen as the pubs are closed. Yeah, well, I am.

Like, you know me. I'm a pub guy. I love my few pints in the booze. And I'm, I'm missing it dearly. I'm missing the banter with the boys I have over in church saying stores there. And as we said, what we're going to do is when we get over this shit, that's our first protocol for the Eurobachian. and the boys are going to give us the room in the back there as well.

I've been chatting to the owner and we'll spark up a Eurobash classic in there. But drinking the shit out of points. Just start sending it. Oh, yeah, sending it. We probably won't even finish the podcast. Sending it. We'll be fucking. Imagine how drunk we're going to be that night.

We'll be very drunk. I'm going to join a rugby team. I'll be so shit-faced. So you're looking up at the moment. You're looking up all types of equipment. Is that taking up most of your time? I'm getting back into the books. I'm reading books like a fucking lunatic.

It's great. Yeah, I am. I'm looking up, like, literally, I'm not taking the piss. And I said to you there earlier on, like, I didn't get to bed at 8 a.m this morning. That was largely due to watching. So hard. He works so hard. Reviews products.

That's been me for the last fucking month, you know. I've been looking at. Yeah, it's mad. I don't work at all. No, I'm not saying that. I'm trying to rush forward this gear we're buying because of the current situation. And a lot of equipment and stuff is actually out of stock. So it's trying to source and get the right price.

There's a huge amount of price gouging going on as well, which is fucking disgusting. I have a 50 euro webcam here and it's been sold the same one of Logitech for 300 euro man like what the fuck these scumbags online so gear is really tough to come by to moment because everyone's sort of broadcasting at home you know the fitness industry

you know remotely radio stations are doing the same thing as well so there's huge demand for that sort of stuff and it's just tough trying to source the gear at the right price as well you know so I'm getting at a whole load like the man you should see the shit I've ordered already like bloody hell fantastic we're blown it out of it

the water. It's, um, it's, it's, it's important obviously to keep, uh, fit, keep, keep, keep, keep moving around. I've been, I've been running 10 miles every day. I've been going out with the dog. I've been going out with the dog every day, obviously, but I'm actually going to start, uh, like something about indoor workout as of next Monday. So by the time I'm, um, I'm, I'm recording next week. I should be, at least have my first workout out of the way. I just need another week of eating everything. I'm just fucking eating so much. I mean, I feel like, like, I'm, obviously after my conversation with Patty Pimlet last weekend, he's continued to send me his, uh, his food, which is absolutely amazing.

Like, I mean, he makes me so hungry, man, the shit he's sending me. He's just destroying it. He's having the best isolation I've seen just based on the food he's eating. So I need to keep that up. I think Joe McCaragan's the same. He's putting on serious weight. I was texting him there today. Dude boys are ripped, like it's a different story.

But I'm already fat and I'm just digging myself into a grave here, basically. I haven't eaten red meat in a month tomorrow. It's been a month. That's incredible. Yeah, it's good for me. I've had a little bit of chicken. I'm not going to lie, maybe once a week. And barred that, it's up, being all like pasta, um, vegetarian sort of stuff.

And it's been tough. I saw you're a buckle for the old elephant and castle chicken wings there earlier. I had to. I treated myself. I was like, fuck it. But, um, no, I definitely feel the bloodiness has gone away. Like, you know, I don't feel as, uh, that sort of thing

but to be honest I'm not going to allow you pizza I think tomorrow I might get a Bunsen delivered down to the gaff just like at least in a month like I'm not going to be meat on a regular base

as much as I used anymore why not am I allowed to? Do you think so? I'm going to allow it yeah I'm going to allow it absolutely I think so

I had a bizarre experience actually on them I was out for a walk with a line in the dog and we're walking up a big huge main road and suddenly everybody's out in their balcony's

clapping and it's obviously for the help. My nephew, the same thing. You didn't know what was going on. Oh, man, I was walking around. What the fuck? I was like, everyone's out on the balcony, clapping like, yay! But I mean, it was mad.

Then we're walking the road clapping, obviously. There's people on the other side of the road walking. They're clapping. But I mean, it's actually scary because I've never seen anything like that happened before. And it's like... My nephew ran home. 21-year-old nephew ran home. We didn't know what was going on.

Yeah, it's... I know, but I mean, in all seriousness, It's crazy that like this is happening. Like it feels like a throwback to, I think Alain was saying like it nearly feels like something that you'd read and good night, Mr. Tom, when the Blitz was going down or something. It's fucking airy, man. It's incredibly unsettling some of the stuff that's happening at the moment.

But we're all in it together, as you said. I mean, we're all feeling the same way. It's very strange. We've never dealt with anything like this before. So, yeah, we just got to keep our head screwed on and keep on reacting because That's the tough We can do. That's the toughest part,

you know, really is. It's keeping that mental focus straight. It's very, very tough and, you know, you're worried about people constantly, but you just have to,

you just have to keep a positive outlook on it. And I think that's very important. I've struggled with that the last three weeks, but I think, you know, another good thing here, you know, we've fucking darkened, you know, we're fucking round here. It's great that the clocks have gone forward,

so we've an extra bit hour and you can see the daylight creeping in there. And that'll give people spirits. They'll be able to sit out in their garden. And it's still cold enough here, but it's gradually getting a little bit warm. and I think that's important as well. People get out and get a bit of sunlight

and don't be just confined to your house 24-7. You don't know what I mean? Even if it's, you know, walking around the garden 20 times or whatever, just fucking do it. Like, you know what I mean? Get your 10,000 steps in, there you go.

I fucking need to start dealing. I'm actually, I've been doing all the interviews for the show on that today, so I haven't got out yet. So I'm going to do that right now. I'm going to go out and for a good brisk walk. unfortunately Reggie has already been brought out by Elaine so I'll be going solo but um yeah I hope

everybody stays safe and I hope your families are safe um it's going to be a very trying time we're going to be here for you always every Tuesday morning keep liking keep sharing keep this movement growing and fuck me is it growing it's this is great um in terms of you know how many people are engaging with the show and and listening to the show it means a lot to us definitely keeps us going as well and um Look, just be safe and be kind to each other because it's going to be, it's going to, it's going to, it's bad and it's going to get worse, unfortunately. Pizza, I love you. I love you too, bud.

Stay safe.