MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 80 (w/ Leon Edwards, Jack Hermansson, Brendan Loughnane)

Episode Date: April 28, 2020

Leon Edwards (12:00) joins Eurobash to discuss the fallout from his cancelled headline bout at UFC London, how Tyron Woodley is “clout chasing” with his pursuit of Israel Adesanya and to shed light on knife crime in his native Birmingham.  Jack Hermansson (38:00) returns to the show to give an update on his bout with Chris Weidman and underlines his interest in fighting on “Fight Island” when the UFC begins to host events at the location.  Also featured, Brendan Loughnane (1:02:00) gives his take on the PFL suspending the 2020 season and looks forward to his friend and teammate Dominick Cruz being drafted in for a title shot against Henry Cejudo.  As always, hosts Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath discuss all the latest news in European MMA.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's dark and hell is hot. Is that a DMX reference because you've shaved your head? Are you getting more gangster with the lack of hair at the moment? I've always been a little bit gangster. The mean streets of South Church time. Do you know what I mean? South Church is on the rough end, is it? Yeah, it is, yeah.

The rough ends where all the crazy. crazy ass, mofos like McGrath. You have to save up for the own Mercedes out there, what?

Yeah, yeah. Daddy doesn't just dish them out down this end, you know? Well, of course,

it's episode 80, another fantastic landmark for the Eurobash podcast and all. It's an amazing journey we've been on, isn't it?

It is, yeah, it is. 80, Jesus, that's a lot, in it? Yeah,

I thought it was 79 again, but I just checked there and it turns out it's 80. So, what a month, moment you know me and the numbers never be my never be my strongest thing in the world the same in

school like so uh jesus yes yes um yeah i mean a lot going on still the the situation changing by the day it would seem at this stage uh but yeah let we have a look at these news headlines and then we can crack on properly do it ufc still pushing forward with three events on may May 13th and May 16th. Dana White says that international fighters will be able to travel to fight Ireland without complications. UFC Dublin

seems to be on shaky legs as the government the government of band gatherings over 5,000 people until September. From In Thecage.PL, Volcan, Osdemir and Yuri Prohaska was agreed for that event. Jack Hermanson

seems to be in a bind for his fight against Chris Weippen. We're going to hear from Jack later on. Alcer Overheim is set to take on Walt Harris on May 16th Francis Inganu and Gersino Rosentruck's request to have their bout to decide the next interim

heavyweight champion has been shot down by the UFC and the Virginia Commission denies Ian QDLABA as appeal of the controversial USC Norfolk loss just a couple of months ago that's all the news we have but that's more news than we've had for quite a while my friend

yeah you know there's a lot happening obviously with the UFC announcements during the week and you know guys I think are just pushing real hard to get fights at the moment it's going to be tough obviously because we don't know where fight Ireland is and obviously the news about you know

UFC Dublin probably going by the wayside so just lots of stuff mate lots of stuff to digest I think that's an ongoing thing we've talked about for a number of episodes that it's going to be like that so it's just day by day still at the moment yeah Dana Hoyt did a big interview with Kevin Iolia Yahoo Sports gave us some information, despite him saying he'll tell the media nothing on Foyd Island and these Jacksonville cards.

First of all, like I mean, Kevin's question, I mean, the most, the biggest thing I guess to take from it is I think it would help a lot of people here if Dana White just said that people will be getting tested or just explain the kind of testing people will undergo to either compete or attend this event in whatever way, shape or form there to do so. But once again, he won't tell Kevin Ioli specifically what is going on with the testing of fighters. Is that him simply, you know, not wanting to play ball here, or do you think they're still trying to figure it out? I think they're still trying to figure it, hey, Pizzi. I don't think there's something in place. I think, you know, Dan is the type of guy, you know, he'd tell you straight hands and straight up if he actually

had something in place. So I would imagine they're still working on what they're doing. And And, you know, I think sort of a comparison we can make to this is, you know, the WWE of still being going ahead with events. And, you know, there was rumours obviously in the W.W.E. during the week, and that's obviously in Florida as well. They're at their headquarters. And, you know, there's rumors that there was a couple of sick guys going in and out. And there was all sorts of drama online, apparently, from what I've seen there. So maybe the way I look at this is that Dana just doesn't have a clue of what they have in place yet for the fighters. And I think it's critical. that they have something in place. I didn't realize the WW we're still doing events. Because I watched that WrestleMania thing

and that had been recorded two weeks in advance. Have they continued to do their weekly shows? Yeah, their weekly shows in the headquarters in,

in, down in Florida there. So that's where they've been doing it in the Performance Institute. They've been, you know, live as far as I'm aware, on Mondays and Friday nights

with their, they're two different brands and still pumping out the content, yeah. Right, so I mean, From what I've gathered, right, I've been speaking to a few European fighters, the situation and some managers,

the situation seems to be that the only visas that the UFC, I mean, sorry, the US are processing at the moment is for essential workers. That's right, yeah. Essential workers being medics, government officials, things like this. It's put on a huge obstacle on international fighters getting into the US.

Of course, we have Alastor Overeem taking on Walt Harris, but if you remember, he literally just got over before the restrictions were put in place so he could get there Alistair over him of course not one to show away from a fight ever in his life but the

visa issues here for the European fighters and based on what Dana has said to Kevin Ioli I feel like this fight island thing is the only way we're going to see international fighters in action here who aren't already in the US again yeah like you know he's not telling us on him so

it could be fecking Aruba it could be anywhere. Who fucking knows with Dana White. The one thing he has said, the one thing he has said is that it will not, you know, international fighters won't be restricted. Yeah, it won't be in U.S. waters. So it is interesting. I don't know what that means for the U.S. fighters. I just think it's all a bit mental at the moment. And again, I question whether, you know, if there was such secrecy, why, you know, why, why? I know, I agree. I agree. I think if he had it, would have said it, right? Yeah. Well, I mean, for the U.S. fighters, if there's fights going on in fucking Jacksonville, they don't surely have to worry as much.

as the international voters, right? Yeah, well, I think the international fighters, this is going to be a big problem going forward, you know. Yeah. Till after this year, even, till we know what's going on fully, because I think the UFC are just clearly, with the car coming up at 249,

it's, you know, it's obviously a lot of guys that are based over there, and I think that's going to be their thought process going forward. And, you know, we can talk all we want about, um, fight Ireland. So I don't know who it is. My nephew actually did a shit back. That won't put on.

But, it's plugged in but yeah i think um if we look at what's going on there and um you know it's going to be something the ufc are going to have to resolve and notify these fires because we see all the fighters the european guys darn tails crying for a fight all putting me on fight on but dana's been so untransparent with this so you know who knows what's going on anywhere and it's uh like if guys want to get out there like you have the quarantine issues as well like i i really don't know um yeah like i mean till talking about get me to fight Ireland. I mean, he wasn't, the US situation is pretty closed off at the moment, let's be honest.

Yeah, no, and he can't even get a visa in the best of time. So it's pretty, pretty insane altogether. Listen, I don't know. Dana, I just think it's disrespectful to a lot of people that are evolving the sport, including the media and the fighters, that he's not being transparent at all, what's going on here. He's happy enough to let, you know, media go in and cover his events, which he will be open to do. doing as far as I'm aware, if anything, was go by the last schedule card that fell by the wayside. That's totally disrespectful, putting the media's health at risk as well, not letting them know many details of what's going on anywhere. I heard that the media won't be going to that. That was what I heard.

Like, I mean, nobody, nobody's allowed go, basically. Like, it's, which is going to make it very hard for us to prove or disprove what type of testing or what type of testing, what type of testing isn't going on, right? Like, I mean, from what I heard, nobody's going. So, I don't know. Apart from the fighter is pretty much the bare essentials, you know. It's just mad. Well, I think that's the way it should be, yeah.

Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. But I mean, what's the issue doing a Zoom call with a camera? Like, it's not that hard if they want to do post-vite stuff to organize for a big, you know, corporation like the UFC. Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, point out they might do something like that. But I was, I asked you every week, how is your confidence levels on May 9th now? Do you think it will go ahead or do you think the situation could change dramatically once again? I think I said it about three or four weeks ago.

I think I thought Florida, California, you know, Florida. You said two point. I was going ahead as well, though, me. I did say that, yeah, but I think I think with Florida, you know, it's obviously being, you know, one of the states that is sort of more willing to put on fights and sporting events behind closed doors. And I think they've sort of said they're going to open back up. state and uh you know there's obviously been a few issues in the past with it with the governor there as well so um you know it is interesting and yeah what issues with the governor

it's been a been a few little things i'm sure p you're your your your uh our listeners can uh look them up and google them if they want you know i'm not we should do that we're the newsmen here me we're not we're not we're not a governmental podcast but uh it's like you sending me that thing last week um to do a 5k run all right no but i think in terms of that going forward in Florida as I said it's one of the few states that seems to be reopening and opening back up but it's pretty mad all the same

that it is going ahead and three events in what eight days in Jacksonville mental yeah I'm seeing this here I googled the governor of Florida because you've not given us any information whatsoever there and a headline Florida governor

Ronda Santis called state God's waiting room oh he's mentally yeah he's not Yeah, he dealings with Vince McMahon as well back in the day and stuff like that. So I think there's, I better not say anymore. We're going to put on three events here. Direct quote from the governor.

Florida is ground zero for the nursing home. We're God's waiting room. Jesus. Yeah. And then they're going to put on events and open back to state. Mental. Absolutely crazy. Ron DeSanctus.

Just bleed. That is incredible. Roy, will we get on with the first interview today, my friend? Right. we have finally got him. Mr. Leon Edwards, the man you have all been asking us to get on the show. Of course, there was massive fallout from UFC London, an event which was in the end it was cancelled.

But Tyrone Woodley is aiming himself at a lot of different voters, but none of them are Leon Edwards. Of course, the man who was meant to take on that UFC London main event. So we got Leon Edwards' take on that. The fact that Edwards seems to be going after his good friend, Israel, Adasania, instead of him. And Leon also had some things to say about the recent stabbings in Birmingham, a situation he feels is getting out of hand. And it's great to hear him speak about this using his platform in that way.

So look, let's go and talk to Leon and we'll be back in 15 minutes to discuss further. You have been waiting to hear from Leon Edwards. And he is finally back on Eurobash, one of your all-time favorite guests. Leon, first of all, how are you? Long time, no speak. I am good brother, thank you. quarantine with the family spending time with my son

and my family so it's all good are you yeah same I'm walking the legs off me dog the poor fuckers on the couch he starts shaking

every time he sees me at this stage but is everyone in your family all good yeah all good everyone's healthy that's the main thing you know what I mean

it's all good just been spending time I got a little dog is off so walking my dog going on a bike rides he's trying to stay busy really trying to say active. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Good to hear. That's all good news. I guess we have to talk about

the UFC London situation. I know you're probably blue in the face talking about it, but I really appreciate you coming on to speak to us. Like, I mean, I can't tell you how big this felt as it approached. I had all my casual friends that would only usually watch McGregor fights. They saw that BT promo, and they were going wild for this. They couldn't wait to see you in there with Woodley. The general public interest was huge for you. Did this make it a particularly hard pill to swallow? Because I felt like you'd made huge advances in your popularity and your stock in your general clout ahead of this event. Was that make it even harder for you to not compete, I guess, when the event was inevitably cancelled?

Yeah, for sure. I had this card. This is one of my dreams, you know, I mean, to headline a U.S. the main event in London, in the UK. This is what I've drunk from getting into the sport, you know what I mean. So I'm taking away from me on a week's notice, obviously because of what's going on in the world. It was downstate. It was heartbreaking, you know what I mean?

But I'm praying to God that we can reschedule, we can get it redone and re-books. But the way it's looking, he's running for the fences. So we'll see. Yes, yes, we will speak about Tyron later on. A very strange approach he's taken to this after the fact. But I mean, the reaction that your situation got, I mean, it was insane situation for the UFC to be in. Don't get me wrong.

But you did that interview with Adam Cattrell, the great Adam Cattrell, where you were speaking about, you know, you get a phone call on Sunday morning, basically, like, be in little three hours, bearing arms two hours and a bit away as it is. Yeah. I mean, I don't think anyone, you don't need to explain to anyone why you couldn't get your team together in that quick notice and everything like that. and you had no guarantee to come home, but has it left you with a bad taste in your mouth at all, how this situation went down, or do you think it's pretty powerful for the course when you're in a situation that we're all in very suddenly?

Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? Because what's going on in the rest of the world, you know what I mean? It is what it is. Nothing I could have done about it. I try my best to even say, I'll give me to a Monday, Tuesday, then try to get my team together to try to convince them to leave their family

to go to America. You know what I mean? not not know whether or not we'll come back into the UK after the fight so I was even like pleading with them then but they said I need to leave on the Sunday um because the band is going on on the Monday so you have to leave on the Sunday but it's what wasn't possible to get done you know man so but is what it is like it said fuck it um do you think you've been affected like but at the UFC annoyed with you for this situation do you understand the huge ask they kind of a threw on the table for you like

with three hours and out, surely they understand that, you know, why this couldn't come to fruition? At the time, they was trying to, like, playing some games with me,

you know what I mean? But I think now, now that the, the card's been canceled. I could have canceled it anyway. Monday, Monday they canceled it. So let's say I did go to America

on the Sunday. I would have been stuck there to even now, you know what I mean, without even competing. So I definitely made the right decision and I think now that they're more lenient on me and the more

they're more understandable now. Good, good. And are you you've been compensated? I've heard from a lot of fighters. Are you happy with how you've been compensated for, you know, your whole preparation there? It was all done with the act itself, right? Yeah, he's like everything was done. I was just about to stop a weight cut

basically. It started making weight, you know what I mean, but camp was done. We're going into weight cut week. But yeah, what they gave us, it was all right. you can't kind of cover the camp you know what i mean i thought at least we got show money at least but um that wasn't the case but is what it is nothing we could do about it yeah and i guess we're still in limbo to a certain a certain extent here because of uh you know the world and its reaction to this whole thing going down from what i'm hearing um the u s visa situation isn't all

that um easy for european florids at the moment because they're not really doing anything for non-essential workers right like unless you're basically a government of official or something like that or a medic it's not really happening is that is that what's what your situation is at the moment exactly my my visa runs out in um on june the first i think one so after that i don't know how i'll be able to get get into the states um so if i want to compete you have to be me you know what i mean and that that that's madness but i'm hoping that um this um fight island that going on that um hopefully cars outside the state the state States can go to the island and compete, you know what I mean?

Because I'm young. I want to stay active. I want to stay busy. And if you can get, get a team together and try to try get a fight them. Yeah, I saw Dana. He spoke to Kevin Ioli of Yahoo Sports. And he said the whole idea of Floyd Island was so international fighters can come and go without complication.

Is that what's been indicated to you? Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what I've heard as well. That's what I put in the island. So I'm praying that. Let's see it can actually get the May cards done first. And it's just to Ken and I'm talking to my team and talks to my coaches and see what we can do to compete.

Yes, yes. And you don't know where it is, right? Everybody's trying to find out where Rhode Island is. Yeah. I haven't told you. I haven't got a clue. He's not telling the fire. He's not telling the managers.

He didn't tell no one. So I don't know. It was good to see where it is. Fingers crossed for Jamaica. Some of the fucking tropical. Jamaica would be great. Jamaica were great Oh my God

But um Roy let's get to the elephant in the room Mr. Tyron Woodley It's crazy to me The way this has gone This fight makes perfect sense From a sport point of view Yeah

Even the rivalry itself Like I mean you've got Tyron Big reactions out of Tyron And for not all that much work on your part You just kind of as we talked about before He said some things about his rap music That seemed to light a fire under him

obviously you know you couldn't travel to the US but since then Torren's been calling out every other wealth away in the division it seems how has this been for you to watch this happening when it was winning the grass yeah exactly it's strange

it's very weird and since the fight been postponed he hasn't mentioned my name one bit you know what I mean which I find very strange if I had a fight with a man that are he said I'll really lit the fire under him and blah blah blah

and what's it going to do to me I'll push for that fight to happen. You know what I mean? But like you said, since I've been cancelled. He hasn't once mentioned my name. He's calling out lightweight. He's calling out.

Even the middleweight champion is calling out. You know what I mean? I think the man is just lost. He's up there in age. He's 30 years old. I've done an interview saying, he spent all his money and blah, blah, blah. So I don't know whether he's trying to get some money under his belt before retiring.

But it's calling out everyone, everyone apart from me, which is a very strange, strange film. Yeah, like, I mean, I watched his interview in the immediate aftermath of this situation, basically the fallout of your and his fight on my friend Ariel Huani show. And he was talking about how there's this whole new clown generation that needs to be stamped out, that, you know, Coli, Usman, and how they weren't real. But for me, when I'm listening to this, I think, you know, you have never compromised who you are to sell a fight. You've always been yourself.

And I'm wondering, why is he feeding the fire of this clown generation, if that's what he thinks it is, instead of rewarding you for being real, if you get me? Yeah, exactly, exactly. And he's calling all this clown. But I think he's the one of the, like, oh, everyone's a clout chasing, blah, blah, blah. But I think he's one of the biggest clout chasers. You know what I mean? He's going out, calling out, like I said, middleweight champions, is he in calling it,

calling it just random fights. So I think if everyone is clout chasing, that seems to me, that's a clout chasing, said, chasing down people, clout that's trying to get a fight with them and trying to use their name to build his name, you know what I mean? So, I don't know. Like I said, I think he's lost and it just doesn't know where he stands and what he wants to do. You and Izzy are, mates. What's the crack there? You know that. Like, you'll know more than most people if that voice is even a possibility. I've seen you guys hang out in California and things like that. Any word on that? Do you think that's even...

Nah. Yeah, see, well, I suppose to Izzy when, when the tweet Izzy and my message isy. and he's like, oh, man, fucking kids lost. He hasn't got clear what he's on about. Like I said, he's just trying his clout chasing and trying to find something to stick, basically. Were you on to, is he? Like, hey, stay away from him. That's my guy.

Stop tweeting that guy. Nah, he knew already what a crack is, you know what I mean? We've got to say a management team anyway. You kind of knew, like, what the sketches anyway? You know, that's my work. Yes, yes. Like, I mean, are you confident that that will still happen?

Like, I mean, as I said, the fight makes perfect sense to a lot of people. I'm sure you as well. Like, I mean, is that the number one priority for making that toy room fight happen now for you? My, as my number of priority is to get the bout, you know what I mean? But like you said, them two are busy, Master Bell and Usman. Then Woodley is the next best option. You know what I mean? So I will push, I'll push in for any of them.

Yes, yes. I wanted to ask you, something not related to the fight game as such, you tweeted about the knife incident in Birmingham recently, and I've noticed that you've become very vocal about this over the last year or so. Is this situation getting out of hand in Birmingham, as far as you can see, Leon? Yeah, man, it's getting crazy. That kid that got stabbed on that poster yesterday, It was actually one of my friends, one of my best friend's cousin that got stabbed.

I found out by today, I didn't even know until this morning and said, oh, that's one of my most best friends' cousin. I was like, oh, fuck, you know what I mean? So, yeah, man's getting, like, last yesterday alone was three, three or four standings in Birmingham or dead, you know what I mean, which is fucking madness in the lockdown, you know what I'm Are you Are you kind of

Trying to use your platform And to kind of speak out against this? Like do you see the importance of your platform In that regard That maybe you can speak to these guys I know you were involved in gangs and stuff When you were younger Do you feel like you're in a good position

To talk to the youth? Exactly I feel I'm in the present position You know, I've been there I've done that And I can like try Try my best to show them on another way You know what I mean

But it's hard It's not really like an answer that I can give to, that will fix it all, you know what I mean? But to see, like, little kids like that again, stab to death and broad daylight, you know what I mean? In the lockdown, it's fucking, it's heartbreaking, man, to see it. And as I put, I posted it yesterday, just to shoot a little bit of light on it to see, just let people see how bad it is there and that the kids need help,

you know what I mean? And they need something to happen. You can't just, like, turn a blind eye to it like everyone else does, you know what? And just got, oh, yeah, it's gangs, they're fucking blah, blah, blah blah, if I just leave them to it, which is not a good way to look at it, man. So I try my best to,

I talk to the people I know in Birmingham. I try my hardest to try to help the kids. Yeah, I mean, it's a shocking piece of footage, to be honest, really, really crazy. I mean, like, I guess when you watch that, do you ever think,

like, Jesus, if my mom didn't bring me to that gym that day, you know, I could have been involved in something like this. Your brother as well, I know, I know the MMA saved him as well. Like, I mean, do you guys ever go shit?

Like, that could have been us. Exactly, bro. It was crazy as well, right? My friend, I saw my friend of radio yesterday, and he sent in a picture of like, I was like 15, 15, 16, and sent the picture into the group, into the group chat.

And out, and it was like five or six of us. And out of the six of us, four of us are doing live sentences right now. What I mean? And part for me, I've made that I sent it to. Other four kids, they're all doing life in prison right now for murder. You know what I mean? So I'm very grateful.

I'm very grateful from my mom and what she had done for me and my brother and to show us another path. And I'm happy that we stuck to it. And now it's paying off. Yeah, it's very noble of you, man. And fair play to you. It's great to see you doing that. I'm sure it will speak to a lot of people in Birmingham as well.

as your status continues to rise. I just got one more for you, Leon, and again, thanks so much for your time. We always love having you on. We spoke about this before. When you fought Gunner in London, it was insane because you were a boot on your way out. This time around, as I said,

it felt like you were going to be embraced like a national hero. Yeah. Tell me, what way do you see the public perception of Leon Edwards being by next March? Like I said, Within a year, my stock is risen, you know what I mean?

A crazy amount, insane. When the fort and tails undercard and they was booed me when I was walking out, you know what I mean? In the UK, she was crazy. I couldn't believe it. And now to be able to sell out the O2 in record time, it was like three minutes or so it out in. So I think in next March, I'll be, by the time next March come around, I'll be a war champion. after all this is cleared up with quarantine and lockdown. By next March I see myself being a world champion

and hopefully getting to different about back in the UK. That's my plan and that's what I set out to do and that's what I will achieve. Leon, I can't wait to see it and we are all behind you. Thanks so much for coming on and I hope you get that visa for Fight Island, wherever it may be. Hopefully, John. Hopefully.

A new pair of trainers and all of our team if you go to make it, I imagine. Get some dirt chicken in me. Yes, indeed. Go on, Leon. Thanks so much, man. Talk to you soon. Good, man. Thank you, brother.

Good, bye, bye. Great to hear from Leon Edwards. A man in a very precarious situation, it would seem, as are most of the international fighters, let's be honest. Noil, based on what he says here about Turin Woodley, he feels as though, you know, he's trying to chase every other fight apart from him at the moment. How do you feel about that situation? I mean, is it just too hard to tell at the moment when we don't know about travel and things like that or do you feel as though

Leon will be put in a fight among the higher echelons of the Welterweight Division when he does get back to action? Listen, I think we've always said that Leon deserves that big fight and I just think in Tyrant's case obviously that platform in London

was that for Leon but in Tyrant's case I think there is sort of bigger names that he hasn't fought that he's going probably in his own mind you know, I'm not getting back over to the UK anytime seeing with all that's going on. I've Coby Covington here. I've Camaro Ouzman here. I can play this to my advantage in a different way and go back after that, you know, that strap again and a fight that's probably at the moment.

More likely is a Covington or Usman scrap because they're obviously both based in the US. And I think that's the way he's looking at it because Leon hasn't had that moment yet. And that was obviously the moment. So it's all a bit of a cluster fuck for Leon Edwards. It's a very unfortunate set of circumstances, but I can understand what Tyron's down, and I can understand his tactics at the moment. I don't understand his tactics at the moment.

Like, yeah, okay, if it was Colby and Usman, that's fine, but it isn't. He's chasing Israel Adasania, but it looks of things on there. I mean, that's about, that doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah, it doesn't. I think Tyron, you know, gives out about other guys sort of, you know. Yeah, that's the whole thing I was saying to Leon. I'm like, I heard him on, Ariel show that day.

He literally starts the sentence by going, like, Leon's a good fighter, respect his game, blah, blah, blah. But you got all these clowns here that act one way and then act another way online

and this is bullshit, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, well, you're rewarding those guys by chasing them, surely, like, rather than fighting a guy who everyone can agree

is pretty much straight down the middle. He is what he is. He doesn't try to be anything he isn't, right? I think tyrant's at the age. Yeah, totally agree what you just said there. And I think tyrants at the age now as well,

you know, maybe that's something he wants of things to fit into his considerations is, you know, their money fights, they're bigger fights, their bigger names than Leon Edwards. And as we said, and as I said there a couple of minutes ago, I think these guys bring more eyes to a potential fight

than Leon Edward does, because that was actually his platform in London. Unfortunately, it fell through, and I just think that's the way it is. I don't understand the Eidson, Izzy line and why he's going after Izzy. I just don't think that's ever going to happen. You know, I think it's a mental decision

to be talking about that. he just seems to be criticising everyone now, you know, maybe have a look at yourself and your rap music at times, Tynarine as well, you know? Oh! Man, he is getting slayed, isn't he? Oh, my Jesus.

I mean, the amount of online posts just taking the piss out of poor Tiran and his side project. Yeah, I mean, Jesus. Darren was slating him a few weeks ago and he was on. What does I think? You know, Tyrant slated him

load of times. He's got a pretty rough. Tartre slating himself. He might as well be at this one. but no man I just don't understand that fight you know the UFC aren't going to do that there's other guys and other fights

they need to sort out in the middleweight division and I think there's plenty of fights there for tiring and most notably you know in my opinion the one I want to see and I think the one a lot of other people want to see is the Covington fight because the beef there see just seems endless but who knows if we'll get that

over the line and listen we might do in the next two weeks that's the mad thing because Dana hasn't confirmed if those two other cards after two four nine they're going to be pay-per-view or what they're going to be yet. So the UFC might try and milk every penny they can out of this. And I think they might make a decision even after 2-4-9 what they're going to do four days later

because money talks at the end of the day. And in this sort of environment, I think everyone or anyone's going to pay a bit of bucks to watch some live sport. It just sucks balls that Leon didn't get the fight about USC London fight. Man, it just was building perfectly. It's like, ah, fuck. It's tough, man.

but like, you know, it's just Leon is like, you know, Brendan Lachnan, who we're going to speaking to, you know, he just hasn't had many breaks, man. It's been a shit year for a lot of the guys in the UK. Yeah, it's one thing like, yeah, Leon has any breaks. Brennan's talking about the situation he's in. And he goes, ah, but Jesus, Leon. Yeah, yeah, he did say that.

Yeah, listen, it just shows you. And it's good to see that, I think, you know, the majority of guys in the UK and the UK scene, they do seem to get on well. The majority, I know there's one or two, but it's cool to see and you listen, it shows you what a guy Brendan is as well. When he's saying that,

he's at a rough couple of years, you know what I mean, in terms of fights. I think it's the golden age of UK MMA, I do. Sorry? I think it's the golden age of UK MMA. Yeah, definitely, man. Sure, look.

Just look at the beast that have been coming through and what we've seen come through. we've, you know, Darren Till, who's only 26-year-old. You know, he's already fought for a world title. We've Leon unbeaten and whatever. So what is it, eight, nine fights. You've Brennan-Prov going to be competing for the PFL title or that million-dollar contracts next year.

I think it's June or something on their plan to get back. You've a load of up-and-coming guys on Bellator. You've, his brother, Fabian. Just, you know, so many, so many good guys. And we obviously have bisphing. And people have kicked on. They've seen the inspiration, I think, from, from Biss being in Connor McGregor and Joanna.

So, um, loads of, loads of talents in the UK, man. It's not stopping. Not to mention the ladies. Joanne Collarwood and Molly as well.

You know what I mean? They're right there. Um, yeah, but, um, let's, let's get on the matters a bit closer to home.

The day after we recorded last week was announced that the Irish government would be putting a ban on mass gatherings over 5,000, of over 5,000. Um, right now, okay, it's not officially cancelled, but,

uh, it's not happening. I'm pretty, pretty confident that it is not happening. No. I think, you know, when you talk about Dublin cards, when you talk about cards in Ireland, and when you talk about UFC, it's synonymous with an atmosphere.

And I think that alone in itself, the UFC are just going to shelve this event, and it's very, very unfortunate. Obviously, as you said, the government there, they've banned all mass gatherings is more than 5,000 people until September. So that effectively just draws a line under under Dublin for this year, we thought it was the great comeback.

And I think that's going to continue on right into next year. I don't think we're going to see any international cards bar Fight Island, wherever the fuck that's going to be. But I think it's going to be a long time before we're seeing fighters signed, as we said, as well. So it's going to be a rough year, I think, for fans outside of the US, looking to get fighters on or looking to have events in their home countries, because simply it's going to happen, man, unfortunately.

Yeah, the idea of this, like, I mean, I put out, the report that, you know, it's in doubt. Obviously, we can't say it's absolutely cancelled until the UFC say it up, but it's certainly looking that way. And it's just funny to me, the amount of people going like, what, what do we do behind closed doors? Look, if there isn't a fucking crowd there, there's no point in having an Irish event. Like, I mean, just, just from the USC's point of view, that's what it's about.

Like, they aren't, they aren't bringing the fucking thing over here. Like, you know, why would you do a live broadcast from Dublin if you, if the crowd weren't there? if you weren't, if you didn't know you could fucking get your staff there. I mean, it's not going to happen. The sale of Dublin is the crowd. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's crazy.

Like, I mean, we just talking about UK MMA. I'm sure it's the same in every country, but, you know, just to speak on it from an Irish perspective here, this was going to be a huge year. With Cage Warriors, Reese McKee, Paul Hughes, Joe McCulligan, Ian Gary, James Webb, even,

with Bellator, Quirley v. Pitbull, Gallery v. Eleanor, Liam McCourt breaking through, plenty of fighters breaking through. It's just a shit buzz, isn't it? I mean, it was all, it was all felt like it was, it was going to be a huge, huge year for us this year. It really did. I had that feeling myself. It just seemed like all, all the pieces were set up and ready to be knocked down, but yeah, obviously none of it happening now with the Belfast event being cancelled. Dublin in September, I'm sure, is probably in jeopardy for Bellator as well. And obviously all these great fights and all these great storylines gone by the wayside.

Yeah, yeah, it is. It's a real shame. And, you know, what can we, what can we do? That's the really frustrating thing about it. You know, we can't do anything about it. And we don't know how long this is going to continue. And it is, it's totally frustrating. But, you know, sometimes these things can spur people on to greater successes.

So I'm sure we'll see some real positive stories and success stories from this. troubling times but yeah like there's other guys as well you know I know Joseph Duffy was was you know so set to get back to the three arena and write those wrongs as he said on the show a number of weeks ago

and yeah it's just a cluster fuck for everyone for the coaches for for Belator for the UFC for just so frustrating man and I do my heart generally goes out to all these fighters who you know big stages set for for these events that have been cancelled because it's a crying shame

yes speaking of people in bad predicaments, Jack Hermanson was due to take on Chris Weidman on May 2nd, of course that event is no longer happening, would have happened this weekend. The word is that the UFC are currently looking for new opponents for Chris Weidman, but based on what Jack has to say here,

they're still looking into ways to get them across. Look, it must be an incredibly frustrating situation, to be in preparing for a fight that may or may not happen, that it's probably unlikely is going to happen. Even if it is going to happen, you don't know what date it's going to happen on. But Jack did a great job of filling us in and letting us know the situation

and how it looks from his point of view. But interestingly, the Barbers is open in Norway. I'm very, very jealous. Jack says he's on a waiting list of a week before he can get it done, but I am very jealous. I told him I'd nearly fly to Norway myself to get it done. I'm that bad at the moment. I'll coach your hair first.

for you, Pizzi. Yeah, I'll take the same one as you, yeah. You'd be like brothers. But look, let's get on with Jack interview, and we'll come back to have a look at this 249 card. And once again, we are joined by top-rated middleweight contender, Jack Hermanson, who hoped to get back to winning ways in early May when he faced former UFC middleweight champion Chris Wyatman.

But unfortunately, there has been some obstacles put in the way due to the global coronavirus pandemic we are currently living through. Jack, how are you, first of all, my friend? I'm very good, thank you very much. Thank you for having me. So, you know, I've been just trying to train as good as I can, and shape is not too bad, actually. So I'm pretty happy during the circumstances.

That's good news. How are things in Norway? What's the situation there? It has been pretty strict, but now you can feel that they're starting to release the pressure so to speak because today they opened up the barbershops

and I know the schools are opening now and things are starting to step by step get back to normal but I believe that our like martial arts gym will probably be the last thing that they will

open so we'll see when that will happen. Wow the the barbershops are open and I'd nearly get a flight to Norway to get my hair cut at this stage. My hair is so bad at the moment. It's, it's, it's, uh, it's, uh, I managed to get a appointment, uh, a week from now. So it's one pretty pretty full booked. Wow, a week it takes.

Oh, yeah, I can imagine every guy wants to get his hair cut now, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was two weeks in, in some places. So a week isn't bad. Yes, yes. Um, I'm wondering, Jack, uh, the fight with Chris Wyatman, a lot of, a lot of European fans were really looking forward to seeing you get back in there. where you made aware that you wouldn't be able to travel?

Because as I've heard, the situation at the moment is the US visas are only being granted to essential workers, i.e. medics or government officials. Is that the situation you find yourself in? Yeah, exactly. So right now, I'm not sure when they will be able to get me a new visa, We're working on it and as soon as things are sorted and do you see

think they can make it happen I'm sure they will so it was just I'm not sure which day I got noticed but it was not unexpected you know so I trained hard for the fight

but I knew that this could happen but I'm still training and waiting for a new chance as soon as it will show up. So is the Weidman fight definitely off as far as you know? You and him, because I've heard, I've seen different outlets release articles saying that UFC are currently looking for a new opponent for him.

Both yes and no. Right, right. Yeah, because I know that they have been getting, you know, I am the matchup that they won't, but they are at the same time trying to get reserved. or yeah so I think that you know or that was the situation where we were supposed to to fight as well they got a couple of reserves if I wasn't making it inside of the states but then they postponed the whole thing anyway so right now I'm not sure

you know i'm speaking with eucc and they say they don't want to make the fight happen but uh i guess if they can't make it happen soon enough they will have somebody else for a while now but i'm not sure sure about it yet but uh that's what i believe so wow that is that must be a crazy situation for you because i mean you're you're preparing for a fight that may or may not happen right like i mean is that a crazy one yeah it's really weird uh so It's hard to have that, you know, laser focus. Yeah, the motivation is still there, but it's just like, you know, that focus that you're really, really going to fight that date. You know, it's really hard to imagine when you know that you don't want to lock yourself into that because you know everything can change in a second.

So I try to stay open-minded and in good shape and we'll see what will happen. It feels like to me that Weyven would have been a great opponent for you. When this fight was made, I was like, this is perfect for Jack. It's a really well-known opponent, a guy who everybody knows in the US, a former champion. I felt like it was a really good fight for you to get back to winning ways. Is that the way you were seeing it too? Yeah, absolutely. You know, his accomplishments and his big name was the reason that I was taking this fight.

and you know some people are saying you shouldn't take that fight you should you know take someone else but well not everybody I understand is that I can't just pick and choose you know I want to fight a champ but that doesn't

mean that UC will give me the champ you know and so if I get a few options you know by like some up and commerce or a former champ I'll take that form of champ so I think White Man is a good opponent and I think that

you know the fans especially the fans I don't think the fight are underestimating him but I think their fans are underestimating Wildman right now because even though he was knocked out a few times he was doing really good in all of those fights and he's trouble for anyone that is fighting him so

you know you should never underestimate a guy like Chris Weidman yes no I agree I really like the fight it feels like the more I'm talking to to UFC fighters from Europe, it's starting to feel like Fight Island is what they need to happen to get them to fight.

Is that the way you're seeing it? I mean, I feel like the US is very tricky at the moment to get in there. Dana White has told Kevin Ayoli of Yahoo Sports that Fight Island will be in a location that will allow international fighters to come and go. I mean, do you feel like that's the most likely way that you guys will get to fight you guys

from outside of the US? I'm not sure but if it is possible and if it will happen soon I would love to be on that card because the interest from the world and from the fans

is going to be huge everybody wants to see what is this about where is it, how it's going to look everything like that so I would love to be on that fight island card so if the possibility comes, I'll sign up for sure. I've heard he wants to do lots of events there. I mean, they're talking about it happening in June,

and they might do it every week. I mean, is that the ideal for you? The Whiteman fight stays and you get it in Foyd Island? Yeah, for sure. I would love that. And as you say, it seems like they really like this idea. I feel like even if they didn't need it right now, they're probably going to do it anyway

because people are getting hyped about it. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. It's so much, so much across all the sports world, people are talking about the UFC. Is it the same in Norway, are no sports on at the moment? Exactly, no sports. And the talk has been about the UFC, and everybody's just like, man, is this right, you know,

why are they doing this? Why are they trying to make sports where nobody else does? And so on, you know, So I feel like, you know, even if they're going against it, I feel like they try to do it the right way. They try to do it as safe as possible. And if they do it that way, I feel like, you know, it's safer to have a UFC event and attend that as a fighter than to go at any other crowded place. So I don't think it's as bad as people. It's just like they're going against the stream as usual.

It's just so many guys want to get their haircuts. They're getting angry when you guys can go to the airport. You wouldn't mind if you had to go, Jack, that wouldn't be a problem for you? No, no. Absolutely not. I would go. You sound like you want to go even if there wasn't a quarantine in Norway. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I wanted to get your take on just one thing that seems to have emerged over the last few days. You know, we were talking about the champion and people not just being able to say, I want to fight the champion. It feels like there's been a huge amount of talk about Tyrone Woodley and Israel Adesania after their online spat. Does that annoy you when you see a guy from a different weight division kind of come in and take a shot at the champion? Do you think this is an unlikely fight, or do you think this is something that could happen? I think if Tyrone had a history of a good relationship with some people in the UFC,

like Conor had, he might be able to pull that up, but I don't see Tyrone being that guy. Maybe if he would become the champ again, that would be another story. But I think he definitely will have to get that belt back before I fight like that would be in the talks. Do you think he could be a factor at middleweight? Obviously, you're a guy who's gone from, I mean, there has been a lot of guys that have gone from welterweight to middleweight, even Kelvin Gasselm and stuff like this. Do you feel, Robert Whitaker as well, do you feel like he could be a presence or is it maybe too late on in his career? I don't think so. no

I don't feel like Toronto is going to be a middleweight I don't see that being very likely it's just no no I don't think so but you never know especially

yeah it's trending people are changing weight classes but I think he probably thinks that he has something that could beat Arisania and I think if he could get a shortcut, he would do it.

But I don't think he wants to go up and go through all of us to get there. No, that doesn't sound like fun. Not for me, definitely not. I think that's the case. If you can have a shortcut to the belt, he would do it. But, yeah. All right. Thank you so. Jack, that's all we have for you.

Thank you so much for joining us again, my friend. And I really hope that this fight can happen, and you guys can get over there and compete because we're all dying to see you guys in action again. Yeah, I really hope so too. Thank you so much for having me again. Great to hear from Jack Hermanson. Crazy situation there.

My heart goes out to him. It's weird, like, you can hear that he still wants it to happen, but at the same time he's like, oh, gee, you know what I mean? It's just, it's crazy. Like, I mean, if they're telling him, you know, we could possibly do this, he can't really stop training it, right? Yeah, not at all. and it looks like Chris Weibin stopped training

from what I saw he was down last night. He was on playing FIFA with some American footballer or not FIFA Madden. That's all he used to be in. The other tournament on ESPN. Oh, do they? Yeah. He doesn't look for each room.

Oh, wow. Fucking hell. Noel McGraw taking shot to professional athletes here today. That may indicate something. I don't know. Listen, who knows what's going to happen with the fights going forward? I don't want to

I don't want to rain on his parade but the likelihood of that probably going ahead is unlikely if you're a European fighter in my opinion you know you fly in there you're going to have to do two weeks of quarantine so like I just can't see where they're going to fit people in

unless it goes ahead on fight islands which who knows we should call a fire island no but um Okay, let's have a look at this card that is allegedly going down on Saturday, the 9th of May in Jacksonville, Florida. I think you've pretty much put the mocker's on it now by saying it's going to happen to be honest. But Tony Ferguson is going to be just in Gece.

If you take that fight on its own, it's fucking unbelievable. But I just have this feeling inside me that Gachi could play the spoiler here to the fight that people want more than. any other fight in the history, history of the sport, maybe. You do, you get that feeling, don't you? I get that as well. Oh, man, big time. Big time.

Like, oh, I don't know. Like, Tony's incredible. Like, if you, if you put these fights together, fighters together at any other time. You're done, yeah. So, like, yeah, now, Tony, don't, Tony to get the job done. But just with everything and, and the kind of,

the, the, the, the, the way that it puts the Habib fight at risk, I think it's, it's just, oh, we're tempted to fight. here, lads. 110% and you look at the fight and you go shit, like it's a

typical fight that he could just sit in the pocket and start throwing those leg kicks and land one on Tony and I think it's going to be a

slobber knocker regardless of what way we look at it put in terms of a risk man, I've said this all along. Tony is some man for showing up,

not back and down, you know, making weight mentally two weeks ago and just just unbelievably insane like fighting the ghost and the guy is

an insane athlete and I think going into anything this fight Tony's going to have a lot of support because people really want to see that fight. We all want to see that fight and I think subconsciously everyone's going to go, fuck it, you hope Tony win, regardless of what way you're looking at this.

But he stepped up, he stayed at the show but yeah, I just have that sneaky feeling that gate you might just come in here and do something to know, I really do. I totally agree with you on that point, but, you know, what way do you see it going down? I know we're going to talk about it more next week. Yeah, I won't get it into

how I see it going or anything, but I just wanted to ask. You know, I guess one of the big things everyone's talking about is, oh, this could ruin the Habib fight. Is there any way that Gaiji, the way he fights, incredible, okay, seven, seven bonuses and six UFC fights. This guy goes in and puts on a statement, which results in people on having a similar appetite for Gaiji v. Habib as there was for Ferguson v. Habib.

Is that possible? No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

I don't think so. No. No. I'm just being straight up. No. it's not. It's what Tony's done. You know, since that loss to Michael Johnson back at the Ultimate Fighter finale, whenever it was, he's gone on an absolute rampage since then. He's beaten everyone that's been put in front of him.

He's stepping up on short notice. He's had those obviously fallouts with Habib, whatever, five times or 20 times, whatever it is now, I don't know. But it's just that run. It's the record. It's the five people who want to see. Tony's sort of being the bridesmaid all along. And he just wants him to finally get that, opportunity to fight Habib and it just needs to happen. I think what people are sort of forgetting

here is, you know, if the UFC are looking on putting on, you know, a big summer fight, we're still in this situation, you know, Ramadan has started now as well. Habib's not going to fight for the next two months. You know, if the UFC look at a quick turnaround, if it's possible they can get a quick turnaround from this fight, you know, does it even for Tony Ferguson guarantee Habib, you know, would they look at Connor and Tony in the summer? I wouldn't be surprised, you of strike while the iron's hot. If there's still not a lot of sport, it's a perfect time to put on a big,

big pay-per-view fight, and that one would definitely be there in two months' time. Yeah, I mean, I feel like just like the legacy, Habib and Tony's legacy is kind of, that fight needs to happen. And it might be like

the most Tony Ferguson thing to ever happen that his will to fight sacrifices that fight with Habib, if you get me. 100%. And I think not just, the two lads need it. I think for the MMA community

and the sport in general, we need to see this fight. We've been talking about it for what, three fucking years fell out five times. It's for the longevity, the legacy of the sport, we need to see this fight. You know, on paper, in my opinion, I've said this openly for the last feck in year, it is the greatest matchup

in UFC history in terms of an actual contest. Yeah, I mean, there's so many good fights on this, but I wanted to ask you about your comfort levels with Dominic Cruz stepping in to play Henry Suhudo. I love it.

I think Dominic has a chance. You know, I definitely do. You know, Dominic, I think it was the T.J. fight.

I think Brenn mentions it. You know, when he fought TJ, when he came back and put in that performance. And a guy, you know, you follow him on Instagram,

you follow him on Twitter. He's always in the gym. He's always training. He's, you know, he's a guy that never looks out of shape and he's never out of shape. And he's,

you know, he sort of dispelled the ring rust theory for you. years after that performance. It was absolutely insane. If there's someone that can do it, it is him. And I think he does match up well against Henry Sejahedo. I think it's his speed. Sehudo. Sehudo. How many years is this being gone? Fucking since Sehudo was born. True. But I think it's a, I think it's a fight he can definitely win. I love it, man. I think it's better than the Aldo fight. And I don't think you feel the same way, do you?

This conversation a couple of weeks ago? I, like, I don't think Dom should be the first going in line, but I think based on the situation, like, that's what it is, man. Like, people can't get in. You know, Al Jermaine Sterling's girlfriend at COVID. I mean, like, those, those two are the guys that should be fighting. Aljo's just coming off the back of that injury. So it makes sense in that regard.

I think Cruz is a fantastic athlete. I think he's one of the greats in the sports. So it makes sense from that situation. I don't think if they had a full, a full roster to choose from that, he should have got the shot. but I certainly think it makes it very interesting. But I think most importantly, it's getting the fucking Bantamweight division moving again. Like I think that's the most important thing here.

And we need to have some moving pieces here rather than just this buildup of contenders. And we need to give it a shake and see what's happening then. And look, if Jan and Marois happens in June as as Jan expects it to, I mean, he's going to be next in line anyway. Yeah. No, I agree. I think, you know, that's the benefit we have. here, you know, Henry's sitting on the shelf for so long and talking about fighting women and all this garbage coming out of his mouth. You'd probably be a good thing if someone else came in

and beat him at this point because he just wanted to sit there and look pretty with a crown on his head and call himself Triple C and not fight anyone. So it's great now that we're getting moving again, because there's five or six guys in there, Petezie, and you know this as well as I do, that could be world champion and you wouldn't be surprised if they're a world champion. Most notably, I think, as you said, Peter Yan. and you know, Dom Cruz goes in there. It just changes the dynamic

and I think it'll be it'd be good to mix it up because we need to get it moving again. It's good. It is good. I'm happy. Let's talk about the all-European fight on the card. Francis and Ghano against Netherlands

Jerzino Rosenstruck. We're clutching to straws there. What do you think of this? All-European clash. Cameroon versus Aruba. How dare you? No, I like it, man. It is good. It's a real test for Rosenstruck to, you know, to really see where he's at.

I know he beat Alastair over him and, you know, Alastair's, you know, probably, you know, coming down a little bit from where he used to be. And I think in Gannu has obviously come back since that criticism from Dana White and put on, you know, three really, really good performances, most notably. Last time out in the last summer, I believe it was against JDS when he knocked him out. and I think it's a tough one for Rosenstruck. I am going to favour, obviously, our French counterpart and our European Eurobacher, Franny and Gannu in this one. But we'll talk about that more next week.

I do, I like it. I think people are fucking underestimating Rosenstruck a lot here, man, to be honest. Stevens and Cater is going to be a awesome fight. I fancy De Castro to do a number on Greg Hardy. I love Luke Ian Price as well That's a good scrap Part 2

Yeah Well Seroni and Pettis is very quiet Isn't it It is it's headlining the The ESPN portion of the card It's part two as well So there's a couple of

A couple of rematches in there Yeah it is It has been quiet It was supposed to happen Originally on the card What card was Mregor back at 229 was it Two 9 was it Two no no

It wasn't 2246 246 Jesus me in numbers Holy God me it was originally supposed to happen on that card team peddus were offered um seroni's we spoke about in the show

back then and then he got words that Connor McGregor was interesting fighting pulled out so we're seeing that now so um yeah looking forward to that one as well I think it's an absolutely barn burner of a scrap imagine Alexei Olenik chokes out we're doing with his Ezekiel that would be fucking European glory all over the place

it would be amazing there's some good fights on it there's a lot of fights here that could like you know headline a regional event luke and nico price is insane um jaccaravi urea rioia hall is a great style matchup a classic style matchup and a lot of lot of great fights man um outside of the top three say ferguson gaethe se hoodo cruz and ganu rosentruck what are you looking for the most yeah also looking forward to you know michel waters and carla spurs i think that's a good scrap um on the cart um you know michel obviously a lady who brings the whole time carla former champion And that tickles my fancy.

Charles Rosa, Bryce Mitchell's a good little scrap as well. So, yeah, listen, top to bottom, it's bloody stacked loving the card. Luke A. Price is going to fucking deliver. That's a fight. That's a fucking great fight. But anyway, let's move on to our third interview of the day. It is with Brendan Loch Nain, a man who had a big, big year mapped out in front of him with the PFL Fedaway tournament.

Of course, he'd be entering the tournament for the first time. We know he had eyes on that crown for, as soon as he signed. basically and he's been obviously studying a lot of Lance Palmer a man who's won the tournament two times in a row but we got we caught up with Brendan all the way in Thailand and we got his take on the situation

obviously and not ideal for him but he gave his outlook and what he's planning for the rest of the year so we're back in about 20 minutes to talk about this shite you have been asking for him and finally he is back it is Brennan Lock 9 all the way from

Thailand now Brendan a lot to get to here with the cancellation of this PFL season and everything else but how are you first and foremost? Yeah, great to be back on the show with yourself again and yeah, this time I'm from Thailand

it could be the States, could be anywhere with me nowadays, who knows? But yeah, you know what? The world's going for a mad time and it turns out I've probably been in the best country in the world for it right now because, you know, we've got total freedom pretty much apart from the odd restaurants

and bars are shut. But we can get around us normal, so I've been kind of looking. It's not really got any cases here, so I've been really looking to be honest. That's great to hear. That's great to hear. And you're able to train away pretty much as normal over there, which would probably be most important to you, of course.

Well, yeah, well, the gyms are closed but, you know, we're just doing home sessions now. We've got mats. We've got pads. I've got my padman that comes on with a wrestling guy that I wrestle with. So, yeah, I'm happy, to be honest. it's a very different situation, right? Like, I mean, I know, of course, you wanted to be, you know,

front and center at this, the, the NFL tournament this year, but, I mean, being away, being able to avoid this kind of life for yourself, it must be a good feeling all the same. Yeah, 100%. I mean, there's no complaints from me at all. I've got one of my best mates here living with me. We've got top training all day and night. I've got world-class opposition here.

And it's just a real good energy. So, yeah, I know it's a bit of a bummer. the NFL, you know, I was, like you said, I was ready to take that million. That's still going to be my million. It's just going to have to wait another year. In the meantime, yeah, I'll just take my foot off the gas a little bit and, yeah, wait around, really, like everyone else. Yeah, it's interesting, though. I mean, unanimously, I feel like the MMA community have applauded the PFL's approach to this,

you know, suspended for a year and putting you guys on this monthly stipend. Is that all, are you, are you, like, as a contracted for you there, Would you be able to receive that stipend? I think that's a great gesture. I know a lot of people in different promotions would certainly be very welcome to it if they could start something like that out, you know? Yeah, 100%.

I mean, it's pretty funny. I didn't even know what stiff end meant. Go, don't. I was like, big care, what they're giving me here? So, yeah, it's not started yet, but, yeah, obviously I'm a contracted fighter with the PFL, so yeah, yeah, we'll be getting that. So, yeah, obviously, a big shout out to them

and looking after us for a difficult time. Yeah. I mean did you feel like, you know, compared to the other promotions, do you feel like they've done very well here? I know a lot of people with Bellator, obviously, they paid their fighters when they had to cancel that event. I mean, do you feel like it's a particularly good

one compared to the other guys, or have you been paying much attention? No, it's a double-edged sword, though, really, because, you know, at least if you're in Bellator, EURC, is a good chance you'll fight this year. Like, you know, I've got to wait now until next June, May June, it's insane, really. That's another year.

the shelf and it's not what i wanted coming into my primal years um so yeah there's not much i can do rather like say it's unforeseen circumstances out there right now in there yeah like i mean it's funny right because i mean i feel like the uk was poised for such like a lot of big moments this year like with till middleweight leon fighting tyrant which of course fell apart and then you in this tournament it's kind of like i mean i hate to say it but we have had this conversation many times, Brandon, where it feels like you're just on the cusp of this, everything going the right way, and then it's suddenly gone. Don't say it. Don't even say it anymore, mate.

I don't even know what's going on. I'm thinking of pluck it all in and putting a rain jacket on and starting digging the roads or something. It does feel like this could be the golden age, though, right, for UK MMA, and it's just, ah, we're kind of stuck in limbo now with this. Oh, God, it's like, you say, I feel extremely sorry for Leon. You know, finally, oh my God, finally getting his big one, what he's deserved and he's earned. And then, yeah, a couple of days before getting told that, I mean, the kids just can't catch a break.

So, like I say, it's not just me out here. There's plenty of others in my boat. So, you know, like I say, I'm in Thailand. They've got great people around me. You know, there's no complaints from me. I wanted to ask you, right, because I'm sure you've been watching Lance Palmer for a long time. Obviously, the two-time fed away champion, two-time tournament winner there. and he's kind of getting into this space that I kind of see

Valentina Shevchenko in, say, for example, like where everyone seems to think that there's a person at the top of the division with nobody that can, you know, bridge that gap, that level of elite. And I know you wanted to go in there and make a big impression. But first and foremost, what do you think of Palmer? Do you think he is one of the best 145s in the world base on what he's done? Well, what you've got to look at with Lance Palmer, He's 10 and 0 in the PFL.

He's made $2.5 million, probably more, in two years. And you can't take away what the man's done. It's very boring to watch. Nobody wants to watch it. And I think everyone was really happy, like, that I was going to get in there and actually give him a fight. And, you know, I'm not just trying to lie there, really. Because that's all he does.

Let's be honest, like, there's no action, really. I mean, he's only finished one guy out of the 10. Like, I mean, there's no disrespect to him but fucking hell and it's like watching paint dry when I look at the names he's even faced I'm like this is maybe it's a bias

because you know I've been following your career for so long but I feel as like there would be there would be a huge international response to you taking him on you know like that would be a really big deal for PFL with you in the tournament with the stakes as high as they would be like do you feel like that that's

one of more appealing fights that PFL could put on even though it's a tournament situation of course results dictate who's fighting here but do you feel as though that's one of the most interesting fights they can put on of 145 yeah 100% that is the fight to make i mean i'm gonna tell right now when a five-fight win street come in there with a lot of hype he's at the top of the heap and that's the guy i want to fight i was really looking forward to it as well uh to be honest and i've been training my arso for it so what was it two days ago it was a massive massive blow when i first got told the thought you know then it really sank in about a day or two later i was like oh shh

shit this is another year on the show like just coming up to hold contender thing where they got let down there then getting in here like right and finally getting the break here and fucking else starting again what listen what we're going to do mate what are we going to do i mean it's it's kind of not working in his favor though when i was kind of thinking about it i know you you got to find positives in this situation i guess but i'm thinking he's 33 years of age now another year on the clock by the time this season starts, I mean, and you're in the prime of your career, I'd say. Would you agree with that? Yeah, 100%

I'm just coming. This is what I feel like I'm coming into my physical prime, just turned 30 in December. And yeah, I mean, the guy, listen, 10 and all, he can't knock the guy what he's doing, but everyone's really looking forward to that fight. And not bums either. There's a couple of them guys in that tournament are not bums that he's been beating. He's been fighting legitimate

opposition as well. And he's just a strong, extremely strong man in it. And like if he gets older, you've got a problem. So it's got to be on my tolls ready for next year. And that's been the game plan all along, really. Yeah, and I know you would be a guy that has always been prepared for wrestlers throughout your whole career because you're so good with your hands.

It's just something that you've got to do. And of course, you know, you went to the US and trained a lot. I wanted to ask you about that because Dominic Cruiseman put in against Henry Sehudo here. And there's a lot of buzz, a lot of talk about this. Crew is obviously one of the great. this bantam weights who ever lived. How do you feel about that fight?

And do you feel like maybe people are not giving Dom the credit he deserves? I feel like some people are kind of thinking this would be a walk in the park for Suhudo given how long it's been since we saw a victorious Dom Cruz in there? I mean, what a story? This man's been to hell and back,

you know, with his injuries, both knees, both hands. He's literally done every muscle and every bone in his body. It's incredible. And to come back after, how many years he was out to beat Dillashore the way that he did, who was unstoppable at the time, and now he's about to come back and get the belt again. I mean, what

a story. I mean, the guy's an inspirational man, I'm proud to call him a friend that I can't wait to watch. Do you like that style matchup? Like, I mean, you obviously understand Dom's game a lot better than a layman like myself. You know, and you know, Sehudo, his strengths. Do you think this is a really good

matchup for Dom, or how do you feel about it? Yeah, I actually do because, I mean, if you look at like Mighty Mouse and all the other guys that he's fought, they're all like shorter guys, Uriah Fabor, and Dom's made the name of these shorter guys fighting him and his style lens to it because he's tall and Ranger at the weight. And I don't know what really do think he's going to win this fight.

I just think it's written in the stars for him, honestly God. Never met anyone like him. It really is written in the stars in this fight. It kind of feels like the same energy ahead of that 2016 fight with T.J. Dillard doesn't it where everyone's like, we don't really know what to expect, and that was unbelievable when he won that decision. I mean, you're dead, right?

If he went in there against the Hudo and did that, it would completely turn again. Like, this is just so typical of the MMA fan base. They'll be going one second, oh, who's this guy? He'd win that fight, and everybody was like, he's the greatest fighter of all time. You know what I mean? It would be like that moment, wouldn't it?

Oh, listen, it's a really fickle sport, mate, especially when you end up. Oh, everyone's your best mate when you've won a fight, and then nobody rings you when you lose. And that's just the top and bottom of the game, And this story now, though, we've never seen anything like it in sport, really, or combat sport, for a guy to be plagued so much and come back and win the world title again. So I think it's written in the stars.

And like I say, there's some other screamers on that card. Screamers that Ferguson and Gates it, all like, oh, I can't wait to watch it, to be honest. Yeah, everybody, like, I feel like my friends who, like, never watch MMA. They're like, is that definitely going to happen? You know, everyone's just really, really chomping at the bit for some Lloyd's Sport, more than anything I feel. What about Jeremy Stevens and Cassav? What a fight.

Holy shit, yeah, that's an incredible fight, man. Well. Two of the absolute best 45 is out there, just swinging it out, can't wait. Both great strikers. One's a savage knockout ice. One's a technician. It's going to be great. Can't wait.

I wanted to, I need to ask you. This might be a bit awkward, Brendan. We had, we had Fiona Jan the show last week. And I know you've been doing a bit of training with him. But he gave. Tom, a terrible time when we asked him about this, so who don't fight? Like, I mean, do you have to separate that business

and training kind of situations there? Like, obviously, Piota's trying to get himself in that mix as well. Like, do you just kind of have to say, right, we just got a train together here, and we know we have to say some things to put ourselves in positions every now and again. Let's just get on with it. How do you deal with that?

Is it awkward? I know, mate. I know, trust me, trust me. I know exactly what you're saying. Do you what I mean? Like, but listen, it's business. We're in the fight game. This is what we do to make fights happen.

you know and total respect to them both to be honest like it's not you know it's not my division they're both you know the good training partners for me and made a best man win end of is he is he what's he like to train with obviously yan um i mean we we don't get to speak to a lot of people who have who've done any rounds with them like i mean did you find him decent oh yeah yeah yeah yeah savage and he's an absolute savage his resume speaks for itself um but we've got the same coaches here now we're both working with the same guys. Obviously he's been here a lot longer than me but absolutely top

fellow, really nice fellow, Jan. And yeah, I really enjoyed training with him and another guy, Fabio Pinko, one of the best strikers ever. So we're training with him. I've got some amazing training partners right now. I'm spoiled, to be honest. Who gets a better suntan? You are Piotr?

Me or who? You are Piotr, Jan. Who gets the better suntan? Is that how you say it, Piyahua? Yeah, I mean, I keep on going between the two but I think that's how you say, yeah. it's like the lock name lock man situation all over again i was thinking who's he talking about yeah yeah i'm not doing sure man i hear different people using different things i always

i should just stick to one though you're right i should either say peter yeah just stick to one mate you know the confusion bit but who gets a better tan i want to know oh tan me i just sit and absolutely fry with that irish skin irish skin be russian skin i was very interested in this battle you know exactly how it is the abuse finally what is a

toy roast like that is not dirty I'm not trying to break up anything to rock it up here but you were having to roast dinner before I called you and I was wondering I can't imagine they have Yorkshire put over there or anything like that how does it go oh mate I am not joking you now

it's the best roast it's better than England I'm no joke controversial there there's a guy from Manchester who's got bar here and it's absolutely incredible. We get it every Sunday. We've been having it there, but obviously, see what, yeah, we usually go to his pub and have a pint with it, but

he's closed down, obviously, so we get it delivered to us now, so we all sit around, get our roast going, mate, it's our proper look forward to us Sunday. I'm having this chat with you now. Literally lying on the bed, I can hardly breathe. That's brilliant, man. That's brilliant. How long do you plan to stay in Toiland

until this kind of blows over it? It sounds to me that, you know, you've got to you've got a good way of going about your business there anyway. There would be no point in really going home and maybe, you know, having to isolate yourself some more. Would you say you're going to be in Thailand until this kind of, until the travel restrictions at least kind of open up again? If I told you what my plan was,

I'd be absolutely lying that there is no plan right now. I mean, I'm on the shelf for another year and I'm not happy about it, to be honest at all. So who knows what I'm going to do? You know, I've got a bit of time to, you know, I'll have to pull myself out of camp now and just kind of just take over, do I mean? So who knows if it's worth me being here, do you know what I mean? Until I have to come back for serious training next year.

So, yeah, I don't know. I don't know, to be honest. I'm just kind of playing it by day now. Would there be any way you would look into maybe trying to get, you know, a clause for one fight, maybe a release to go fight somewhere else? But obviously still with the PFL, is that something you might look into? Or how are you feeling about the situation? Yeah, we're trying all types of different things now.

to be honest, nothing's set in stone. But if I could stay active, that's all I want to do. I don't even care about the money. I don't care about any at this stage. What I care about is being active. And, you know, I've had a couple of inactive years sometimes in my career. As I get older now, I just want to get going. You know what I feel in my prime.

I just want to fight. And the main thing I was looking for was you were seven fights in a year. That really made my mouth for twice in one night. That's what I wanted to do. And now obviously, you know, a pandemic happens. and you're back on the shelf run. So, yeah, that's what's going on. Is it, is it the fear of losing your sharpness?

Like, what is the need to fight here? If it isn't for financial gain, as you said, like what do you feel, like, in your mind, why is it so important to get out there and compete? Yeah, exactly. You just hit the nail on the head. I don't want to compete. I'm a competitor.

I mean, I'm a martial artist. I train every day. I can't wait to test my martial arts against other martial arts in the world, and that's what I live to do. And you tell me that I have to wait a year to do it now. it's annoying but like I say money will always come and go but legacy is going to be forever in it and I just want to be in there with them big names and be talked about you know for when I've got my grandkids on my knees you know that one absolutely absolutely you've already got plenty of those

moments but I mean if if that is an option do you think that will be something you'd take if they were open to maybe you guys fighting you know a couple of fights in a different organization before returning to pfl in 2021 that would be something you'd you'd probably be interested in Oh, thousand percent. Absolute thousand percent. Nothing's set in stone yet. We're working on a few things, so hopefully I'll have a bit more news for you soon. Very interesting.

You always have a few spinning plates on the go at one time, Brendan. You're never just waiting for your next Friday. I'm always got me handing something. Let's just put it, aren't we? I've got my fingers in a few pies. Right, Brendan, go on. I'll talk to you, mate. Thanks so much for getting on to us.

and I look forward to hearing about your next move. Thank you so much for the call, mate, having me on again. I really appreciate it. All the best, man. Talk to you soon. Take care, mate. Bye-bye. Thanks so much to Brendan.

Sounds like at least he's getting the old roast going in Thailand, so I'm happy to hear that. Crazy, crazy time. It's just every week listening to these guys, it's so rough for the fighters, man. You know, as sole traders, essentially, especially these guys in their peak years, it's like fuck you know it's such a such a you know it's such a speed bump i guess yeah no definitely

you know especially for brandam and you know just the injuries then sort of not wanting to commit to you know multi contracts and fights and then he finally gets an organization um after that ufc debacle and where the ufc clearly should have signed them in denny white's contender series five fight contracts or whatever it is for the world's um uh tournament at BFL do, sorry. Firefight contract or whatever. No, do I mean a multi-fight deal, I should have said,

just off the bat. But no, it's very frustrating for me. He's a guy that's just been so unfortunate the last three years that he's had no fluency and now having to sit out for probably next summer. It's just so unfortunate, man. And hopefully he can come to some sort of resolution, as he said there, and try just get back in there

and, you know, take a sabbatical out of his contract and be allowed to have, you know, maybe a one-fight grace on that deal with some other promotion because, you know, it's a long time, man, isn't it? Long, long time. Yeah. I mean, he didn't even know what Stip-Bent meant.

So, I mean, I don't think he's banking on, you know, I think he would take a fight rather than take the stipend and then return for the tournament next year if that was the way they wanted to play, you know? Yeah, I think he said that as well, you know, that he just wants to get back in there. That's what it's all about from. And Brennan is, in fairness, one of those lads.

He just trains the whole time. Like you see him, I think he was, as he said there, he would Peter Jan train out with him and just, blasting pads and lads in Thailand and I think that's basically sort of Brennan's mindset like he's a tough guy and he loves to throw down

and he does he needs that momentum to kick on I feel blasting lads in Thailand who that's there that's gonna be and you just said to me off air two minutes go out of dirty minds

get the fuck out of here Carl get out of here Carl listen man you're the one blasting lads on the brain I can't I can't compete with that but Noel you've shaved your head you said you would

on last week's show how did it go talk us through are you happy with the result great yeah it's grown so fast that I actually

I messed it up when I was shaving it last week I put a tree all over a blade three and then I got out of the shower

and I saw there was a few bits that were sort of sticking up so I went and got the head shavers out of the thing

and I took a lump out of the back of it was oh no I'd forgotten to put the blade three back on from zero

so I had to just bite the bullet and zero it all off. But it's literally growing back. It's like a three now anyway, so it's Grant. Yeah, that's great. A wrap of pace. So yeah, it's great.

You can't go to Barbers or anything. So you can't even buy clippers online. There's like a three-month waiting list or something on feck and Amazon, like everything else at the moment. So I just said, fuck it. I cut it. So, yeah, Grant, it's handy as fuck. You know, an hour in the chair.

You had a very public spot with your internet provider last week. How did that go? You must have it back anyway, you were talking to me right now. Yeah, just about, but a, you know, went off for a couple hours today. I was a bit concerned, but then I saw a lot of other people

were having problems as well. Not on the north side. Nothing on the north side. Yeah, sure. Who wants, who wants to live out in those sticks? It says the man from Gildare. Anyway. It was,

it was infuriating because I'm not the time of person to shame companies online or anything like that, but it just got to a point over, you know, customer for years and cutting off our bloody lines doing work on the neighbours and then not sending someone out till the Thursday it was like nah that ain't happening mate not at absolute chance like and then they messed up when they came out the first day they didn't have a ladder high enough to fix it there was no communication from what actually happened in the neighbour's house to the guys that

came out and did it so they had to eventually get the guy out who cut the neighbour's line to do it and fix it all up so they put a new line into our house they didn't even bother asking us when they cut it so so yeah great service unbelievable like yeah deadly i'm not being sarcastic When was the result? Thursday. So you said, we're going to have to wait until Thursday. Absolute no way, mate. And then they just did it on Thursday.

Because they sent people out on, on, on, sorry, happening on Tuesday. Send people out. I was gone mad on Tuesday. Send people out on Wednesday morning, first thing at like 7 a.m. He was there for four or five hours, basically did nothing. And then couldn't get it done.

So he basically ended up leaving the house here. in a huff. Yeah, in a huff. And so I was like, all right, see you later, pal. You better send someone out tomorrow. So then I had a big bitch and trying to get it confirmed for Thursday morning first thing. And your man eventually came out on Thursday

and got it sort of. But yeah, just a royal pain in the hole. After they cut the wires, like didn't even bother checking to see if we were virgin media customers. Great stuff. Sounds like they're taking the piss out, you know, to be honest. Sure, listen.

What can you do? What happened on my watch? That's all I'm saying. But I have another bound to pick with you. So last week Andy Stevenson doing a great thing You know

He nominates me in this thing To help our frontline workers I don't usually run I went down and did it I donated the money And I nominated Noel McGrath Not only did he not donate He hasn't even ran the fucking thing

Or the other way around Whatever way is worse What's your story? What's your excuse? I told you I told you What read out what that message said I told you and I was totally right

He said Help the Frontline workers, me going for a run, they've already got enough on their hands. Exactly. 110%. That's it. 100%. You wouldn't throw them enough for a point now, the L5.

Of course I will, yeah. Of course I will. Jeez. Of course I will. You've had to be publicly shamed into it. I don't be publicly shamed. Literally, if I ran five kilometres, I collapse and die in the condition I'm in at the moment in terms of my fitness, literally.

Just go in your scooter. Well, I have. I've done 150 kilometres in my scooter. So, we're laughing. That's basically like, in 5k. Yeah. It is,

of course. It's very, it's very stressful on your back and your hands. You know what I mean? It's tough work. Like, nothing you're not into,

man. You know what I mean? Gets the lungs going, man, you know what I mean. So now, yeah, like,

literally I'm not, I'm not joking. I would be in a bad way if I tried to do that. I, I never ran 5K in live. I've done four since then. I'm fucking gone for the Olympics

at this stage. I have plenty of times, but Jesus, my lungs are in rag order, man. I literally collapsed. like. Yeah, it's good to do though because you realize I won't fit your

when you do and you're like, oh, holy shit. Why did I become a monster? Yeah, I did about fucking eight years ago now at this point. I used to play the odd bit of five-aside football, but when that went away, Jesus Christ, they can hardly walk up the stairs these days. Full-blown 11 and so-it match happening out on the park there today. I was like, guys, this isn't what they had in mind. It's mad, like it's so noticeable at the traffic around and people getting

and, you know, complacent and stuff like that. And, you know, as you said, like, there's been, you've heard stories of parties and you've seen it. It's shocking. People should be literally locked up for putting other people's lives in danger. It's shocking. It really pisses me off. And, you know, I saw it, you know, even there last Sunday, you know,

on certain occasions and you're passing by parks and stuff like that. You know, people just sort of taking the piss at this point. It's not cool, man. It's not cool at all. So I'm reading fucking comic books, everything, man. I'm trying out loads and it was shit at the moment. It's not too bad. I'm actually not finding it too bad at all.

Yeah, so you're like your comic book talks with that fella. Upsetting Pitcher. Upsetting you. You're spending too much time when it's upsetting me. Have you? I haven't said any time.

You have. You're like, you're having these Twitter. Oh, I watch this. I watch this. Look at this comic. This manga crap.

What the fuck is that about in crystals? What is wrong with you? What has happened to you? Can the real Pety please please come back? Comic books? Comic books and crystals. No, they're fucking garbage about them. That's, there you have it.

What was the comic books when you were a kid that were probably like the dandy and stuff like that? The fucking Beano and shit, Dennis, the Menace, like a solid shit. That stopped in 1972 or something, didn't it? Fuck you. Oh, you could probably make a few bit of quitted. You make a few quid if you still have them. And you know, Roy the Rovers. I'm in the bars as well.

That was my day. Bad time. When it was your day. When it wasn't all this fucking garbage that they fucking write now and corrupt. people's minds with shite. The world was in black and white when I was a kid. You're smarter as fuck, aren't you?

You swear you were 21 the way you go on, like, Jesus Christ. Give us a break. I look 21. You're trying to be, at least I'm not making any fucking excuses that I'm not like this fucking hipster into manga and fucking crystals now.

Where the fuck did this come from? Are hipters into manga? They must be, like, look at the state of that two brush head, pencil neck fella. Like, do you know what I mean? come on speaking about how you're you're spending too much time with him now it's gonna have to stop it's upsetting me look i can i can i can feel how upset you are you know i really can it's it's disturbed you a lot have you uh did you watch the last dance yet i did great man i haven't watched

three or four yet so i'm have a whole night set up here to watch i actually got up this morning early to watch them oh i don't know how you do that it's like the waste of a night yeah i know i was just i actually enjoyed it that much that i was really excited about it. And I do. I love sports documentaries and I'm just mad to see the characters and, you know, just the little intricate things that spark them off to go and runs and the shit with

Dennis Robman and the shit. All right. Don't run the fucking episode, mate, yeah? I'm going to tell you all. But it, no, it's deadly. It is. I really, really enjoyed it. And I'm going to watch that right out to the end now. It's just, I'm pissed off on Netflix because normally like, normally they just release all in one. Like, I prefer it like that. It's really annoying. Well, I like it. Well, maybe

I suppose at this time it's good, but still fucks me off a little bit fuck you Netflix if I'll be included in the story obviously after I won the first year Hearts Town unisex basketball tournament about a talk about me possibly count of the balls

so I mean I wonder if I wonder if those chats I had with Jordan will be featured basketball yeah I was fucking savage pretty pretty savage at everything the only sport they wouldn't let me play is rugby because they thought out to injure all those south side fairies

that was a direct quote yeah from the IRS you I'd say you were the lad that was picked last in the teams, me? Yeah, I was actually, yeah, to be honest. I was always the captain. Yeah, not far off. All my mates were class, though,

so I couldn't have just played with them and everyone thought it was deadly until they isolated me. They were like, hang on, pizza shit, this. Last pick, last pick. Yeah, those were the days. It's the way it goes. So you made up for a later life with your

flying, floating seal jitzy. When he taught... Yeah, I mean, I've been a pioneer of many sports. basketball, jihitsu. I don't know what I'm going to do next. Probably jogging now. I am jogging. It's a new fat.

I wonder how long I keep this up. I am a fatty, like I'm mad like that. Like I'll go through phase. I'll like on something. I'll get mad into this for like two months. I'll all the stupid headbands and everything and that'll be like, ah, fuck it. No, I'm not doing that anymore.

Yeah. I've never understood the point in jogging. Yeah, it's very boring. This is. You know my ears are fucked up from the grappling. Not in the outside. I don't have cauliflower ear on, but the inside of my ears,

they don't take them the plug. So, I mean, every time I'm running, they just fall out my fucking ears. And then when you, you don't even have anything to listen to it. It's just a disaster. Yeah, mine are the same.

My feckin, these plugs I have on at the moment are doing the same. They're fecunding my fucking ear drums. They're in that tight. Trying to keep them in. If anyone has a good idea of headphones that I can use on a run,

that aren't, like, oh, like I have beats there, but I don't we fucking wear them. These ones to do for you actually, they're called, what do they call, Amy? They go right into your ears

and they plug, they go the opposite way on your ears. So you put them at the back of your head. Oh, I know the things you're talking about. They're actually not bad for this sort of setups. They might be go for jogging and shit like that,

but I wouldn't. Yogging. New fad. Yes. Well, look, we'll let you guys get on with your lives and we'll continue with ours. And hopefully we'll be back for episode 81 next week.

will it or will it not happen next week it's happening stop cursness telling me I'm cursing it you're cursing it now well I'm just being practical Noel you're being optimistic you know we have to be optimistic I mean where did that optimistic

get us on April 18th mate you know fucking disaster I can't I can't fucking win I can't just end of show I can't fucking win all right love his loads and I hope everyone who is practicing has a safe and rewarding Ramadan. I know it's a very tough time

in terms of the old food. I would... My hat goes off to you. I'm really bad. I need to eat all the time. So fair plate you. I hope it is a good one. And look, we'll see you next week.