MMA Fighting - Eurobash: (w/ Petr Yan, Jiri Prochazka, Jack Shore, Raymond Daniels)

Episode Date: April 30, 2019

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Petr Yan looks forward to his UFC 238 meeting with Jimmie Rivera (11:45), newly crowned RIZIN champion Jiri Prozchaka calls for a clash with Bellator champion Ryan Bader (29:15), Jack Shore discusses his first Cage Warriors title defense (1:06:00), and Raymond Daniels previews his Bellator MMA debut (1:40:30). Peter Carroll and Niall McGrath look at the latest European MMA news. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and use promo code sports for 20% off. It's episode 33 of Eurobash and me and Noel McGra are firmly in the house. How are you, big man? He's just handling that old mixing board over there, like I'll judge Jules back in the day in the height of his prime. Pro, Petey. A pro. That's what we call them.

Pros. Well, used to this shizzle. What's going on? Good weekend. A good weekend, but I have a bit of an announcement to make here, Noel. What? Another one? I know.

There's so many announcements. Another one. Sure. From now on, MMA fighting is going to bring you all of the podcasts under one banner. You can now get all of the podcasts that begins with the MMA hour on Monday with my good man, Danny and my good man, Luke. And it goes to us on Tuesday with Eurobash, the A side with Sean Al Shadi on Wednesdays, and I believe the MMA beat on Thursdays.

And you can get all of these on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, wherever you get them, under the MMA fighting banner. so we'll have a new episode out for most days of the week and who knows maybe we'll add one again in the future. But finally, I know you guys have been asking for a long, long time. So you can now get the podcast on iTunes, Spotify and all those good places. We won't have to be tweeting back about 20 times. Rage tweeting. Rage tweeting.

Listen, it's not up to me. Exactly. But, no, glad that we can finally get that out to you guys. Noel, how are you? I just want to say I'm sorry about what happened at the Manchester United Match, okay? It didn't go well

and I was thinking of you. It's a bad week, a couple of weeks. Bad season. I just wanted the season to end now in France. It was a one-all draw with Chelsea. They took the lead. United usually win when they take the lead and there was a horrific blunder

from David DeGuea. Yeah, it was bad, it was bad. And I think when you know, DeHaye is having such bad form as he is recently that you're in trouble and it was very much the case. And listen, I think they, they started very well, but, you know, they faded off. It was a bit of a spineless display in the second half.

Well, there you go. Well, look, I know what's going to cheer you up. Some MMA news. Some headlines, Noel. You don't get enough of them at all in your day-to-day life. Well, let's start where it all happened on Saturday night, Mr. Jack Hermanson. You and me were saying this looked like a time where he could step up to the plate, and he absolutely did.

It was a masterclass. He looked absolutely unbelievable. He was relentless. you know we'll talk about it more later on but um you know he was brilliant wasn't he yeah i think you used the word there and we used it all fair relentless um we saw everything we thought we would see from him especially as we set up against the cage like a middleweight peter yan yeah yeah yeah he was he literally was and um you know the takedowns you know the guillotine attempting the first it was a dominant five round victory and you can see the emotion afterwards obviously it was that big

breakthrough fight and now I think you know no one's gonna want to get in there with the Joker and you know at one point you probably could even finish to fight two points I think in the first two rounds but it was it was a dominant display and I think as for Jacqueray we talked to a bit later on I think

you know it was the perfect time to get Jackaray I think Jack Ray's on a downward slope now you know 39 years of age not getting any younger absolutely Mike Perry called for a fight with Darren Till after his memorable fight with Alex Cowboy there seems to me mixed emotions on this

like I mean If Darren's staying at 170 I think it's the fight to make though Possibly Are you more against it because I get more for Mike so than Darren I think You know we've talked about it a lot

I think it's time for Darren to take some time off Till possibly You know the last quarter of this year Then get back in there at 185 pounds I think he needs to move up now And not kill his body anymore Because eventually he's going to have to make the move up And that's going to be really what happens here

I think if he does stay at 170, that's a fight that UFC will probably make because I felt like they didn't make it before and they were kicking themselves. Like, why didn't we actually do this? Yeah, they could have done at that time, but then the lads went training with each other, killed it off a bit and, yeah, all that sort of stuff. But, you know, another stupid call out from Mike Perry, I thought afterwards was, was Bobby Governing. Like, that fight is just not happening. Like, what, what, like, some of these guys, like, they need to be more ill-advised

than what they're doing. Better advised even. Sorry, better advised when they're getting on the microphone. you know, plan out things beforehand, have a little thing in their mind. You know, Darren maybe was an okay call out, but still I think Darren's going to 85. I think you have to have something definite, plan it out, map it out, get some interest from the public. And I just don't think really either of those fights are going to happen.

The Cobby one was just stupid. I didn't even hear that thing you said it. Yeah, that's a bit mad. UFC 242 was going to take place in Abu Dhabi on September 7. We talked about this for many weeks now. Kavibna Maka-Madov, obviously going to be fought. fighting that night, but that's the word. Yeah, well, that was the date we

heard about and Abu Dhabi makes a lot of sense now to pay-review. Yeah, and of course, Dustin Porre, I see, has tweeted, location sent. Who right now do you feel will be taken on to be? Well, it sounds like it is Dustin. I think it should be. You know,

if we're going to play by the rules of interim titles now. Well, no, we never do, so. Listen, you don't know, Dustin's pulled out of fights in the past before as well, the Nate Diaz one, we didn't get much answers to why you

pull out of that you know I'm sure Mr. McGregor would be on standby at

some point I wouldn't be surprised if some of those were two weeks before on McGregor

steps in to fight Abebe and listen it probably is going to be

poorly at the moment the way from what we're hearing and what's been said

from both sort of parties yeah it probably will be Dustin listen

you know how I feel about interim belts I'm not I'm

last I'm not going to hate them if there is a number one contender. We all know who it is.

It is Mr. Ferguson. I don't care what anyone says. I know he's out and he's due back, but yeah, it is. It's going to be Dustin at the moment. I think Dana Hoyd actually said in the post-voy press conference that he doesn't think that Tony's ready to come back just yet.

And we kind of said that I was predicted. Yeah, it's probably the last quarter of the year. Which September would be, well, October, no, whatever. Yeah, I would have thought around them. But, yeah, it's an interesting one. I don't know how I feel about it, though, but I think he'll be able to.

go through justin like you would most guys you're sort of grin at me there but listen how can you back against yeah oh no you can't you can't I mean he's definitely going to be the favourite maybe you shouldn't say go through you know I think he's going to beat him I'll go through I mean he'll beat him yeah Saladin Parnasse becomes the interim

KSW Fedaway champion what a talent that guy is absolutely amazing performance against his Manski in Lublin Poland at the weekend there great car we'll talk about KSW again later on Jack Shore defends his cage warrior's title with a third round submission of Scott Malone. A lot of performance. Oh my God.

And, you know, we say it till we're blue in the face. And we'll hear from Jack later on. But he does just get better and better every single time. And you can see the strategy play out in front of your eyes. What he told us last week is what happened in the fight. But the amazing thing is the comfort in which he does. He's the adversity and you're just going. Like, he just doesn't care.

He was up against the cage, a little bit of early adversity. Two takings you can see it. Malone, yeah. He's a European level. doca he's against you know and just swinging elbows cool as a breeze banging them off malone's head and like my loan looks absolutely knacker gone into that third he was brilliant in the first though he was he was really good but but but look how calm yeah i know jack was it's crazy it's just like i think i i think i throw at me i'm gonna you know it doesn't matter in the

learning process it's brilliant in the midst of all those uh those takedown attempts was got malone the thing that showed me how comfortable jack shaw was he tried to throw him himself to throw this you know commonwealth judoka he tried a little uh footswit beep on him. Like, you're like, he doesn't give a, yeah, he doesn't give a shit,

you know, he's comfort. It's just, it's just the comfort in which he looks in there. Yeah. And I think when you've a guy that that's that calm as well,

that always sort of works out for a mixed martial artist that kick on to do, they'll be able to deal with the pressure. And I think, I think he's ready for the UFC now. Reigning Eurobass champion, like I mean,

yeah, five times now, five times. It's too ahead of everyone else. It's crazy. But, and also just as Jack Shaw was doing his post-fight interview when he was kind of saying,

you know, Cage Warriors announced a return date in Cardiff on October 12th and on the poster is Jack Shaw will be defending his title. Now, we did speak to Jack. He's going to shed some light on this earlier. It's not an affront in any way to him. But I guess from what Jack says, and you'll hear later, is if the UFC don't come calling, he will defend his title on that.

Yeah, I think it's boiling, you know, playing up to his assets here now. Let's be honest, man. You know, get as much money for these guys as you can. get a bigger contract as possible and there's nothing wrong with that in my opinion do it all late the Welsh went 7 and O on that card and the professional card during the night

it's not like they're going to have nobody to put on that card Mason Jones fantastic in the common event Corey McKenna the teenage terror as I call her was got back to winning ways they have a conveyor belt of talent there KSW announced a German show as well during their broadcast I don't have the day here in front

of me and I saw that Martin Lewandowski also suggested that they could be on their way to Croatia or Serbia when you look at the guys they have there from Croatia, Solich, there's lots of guys. I mean, they can do that, and it's a good place to move into. That seems to be like some untapped talent source there. And look, from the guys that they're getting from Croatia and Serbia on the KSW cards,

I'd love to see that, and I think it's a great idea. Yeah, they're pretty much, we're going to be touching on a lot of these things later on in the podcast. And just on last week's podcast, a lot of people got on to me about the Martin McGrane interview, Michael McGrine interview, where do I keep on calling Martin? You know, he kind of gave us an interview when he was, he was very, he was full of praise when it came to Connor McGregor. And then obviously an interview showed up on TMZ where he said, you know, I saw countless tabloid papers pick it up over here. It's very total tabloid misquote. Yeah, I don't know if it's a misquote, but I think he was having a bit of fun with it and it was taken the wrong way.

I know for a fact that Michael has been training with Connor McGregor this week at Crumlin boxing gym. There's definitely no ill will there. Yeah, 100%. Just thought I clear that up. And lads, we have a bit of an announcement here for our first guest today. We told us we get him. We told us we get him and we got him. Yeah.

He was absolutely brilliant. Mr. Peter Jan, the Siberian gangster pop boy with the main man in management, Soiat, he works with Danny Rubinstein, and we've been trying to get this for a long, long time. And let me tell you, that man delivered, and he delivered to the end degree. You have plenty of articles to be coming out of this interview. Thank you so much to Soyath. He's been great for me to keep in touch with Peter. And yeah, just delighted to have him on the show.

We got his thoughts on John Lineker's fight, the urnought of a man who he's been targeting since he pretty much started in the UFC. And we got him to look at UFC 238, where not only the bantamweight title will be decided, but Al Jermaine Sterling's fight in Pedro Monos. And of course, Peter Yan will be taking on Jimmy Rivera. Lots of lots of huge bantamway fights taking place that night. So we'll leave you with Peter, myself and Syatt,

and we'll be back to you guys in about 15. MMAfighting.com, and it's finally happening. We are finally joined by the Siberian gangster, Mr. No Mercy himself, Peter Yan, and I want to take this opportunity to say thank you very much to Sayat here, who has helped us keep our ties with Peter since he's been signed with the UFC, and he is going to help us with the translation today. So thank you very much, Syat. Yes, thank you for having us.

Oh, always a pleasure. Ever since the first time I spoke to, Peter, on the phone, I said this would make a great podcast because he's a very funny man, as you know, I'm sure. Yeah. I'm going to touch you, Michelang. I kill you. Well, I've got to ask, my first question, I know Peter is very confident.

I know he knew all about his ability for a long time, but to be on the verge of getting five wins in a year with the UFC, did he expect to be this smooth? Did he expect him to climb the rankings this quickly? He said, you know, that you're very confident in se. You, said, for short period, I've got to four years, I'd have you, that all right? You'd have all right?

No, I didn't, I don't, that all right? that it's, well, so, you know, so I'm in their own in their self, I'm in the pasty

day, I'm sure that I'm going to do it to poise, in the in a simple problems.

Yeah, like, I didn't expect this is going to happen so quick, but I'm still confident in my abilities,

and I believe I can get to the title without too much problems. Yes, yes, and I think it is looking

that way for a lot of people at the moment, but I mean, was, Was it his plan to be this active? Was there any time where he was like, wow, these guys want me to fight again?

This is crazy because his activity is really, really amazing. Planned you'd be such an active or in some moment you thought, it's kind of a sudden. It's just too much of everything. Like, they're again, I'd like to try to be able to. I didn't think, so it's some of that. I just, you know, manor, you're a smushest. All right.

I'm still, I'm still. I'm I'm I love I love my job I didn't think it was crazy

just my manager is crazy you know my job my job is to fight you know make money

you know I love my job I love what I do so is it yes and we know that he has been given that new

UFC contract which of course was very very warranted but um you know after that Dodson win I think

everybody realized that if he can be John Dodson, he can compete at the very top of this division. But how happy was he with the Jimmy Rivera matchup? Is this the kind of opponent he was looking for? Does he believe that a win over Rivera opens up the championship, his path to the championship? How are you doing with him? How much did he, how you're doing? You think you that the win with him you'll open to fight for the title?

I'm very glad that they gave me that over me in ratings it's very serious. I don't

think that the title but I think she will be closer and closer and more happy that they gave me

Jimmy because he's a ranked higher than me pretty serious opponent and I don't I think like this win going to get me the title shot, but I'm sure this win is going to get me closer to the title contention.

A lot of people felt that Jimmy didn't look the same as he had previously when he fought, I believe it was Al Jermaine Sterling last time. Did he feel that maybe that was a bit of a flat performance from Jimmy? Seamontory did you, see, you know, he didn't show his own level in that battle? Yeah, yeah, I, I've looked at that boy. He's all because it's a from the other It's a lot of it's Does he?

Does he? I think that I've I've seen He was he was that he's He's exactly

he worked So I saw his fight with Sterling and was John Dodson and I don't believe like he didn't show up He just thought his level

And it also depends on what his opening and did, like Aljerman did a good job in stopping him. Peter, I don't think it was like fluff performance. It was his ordinary performance. Right, right. So, I mean, he must feel his speed is going to be a huge advantage here because, as we know, Peter is relentless when he's in there.

I don't think we've seen a bantamweight fight with this kind of style a lot in the US. He must be very confident. Do you think you that your speed will be the key factor? Does it make you I'm sure in this battle? No, my speed

there's a big role not will be here, here's my technique and my ability to think in the ring

in octagon. I don't think like the speed will be the key factor I think like the key factors will be my technique and

my fight acu you know decision I make is the octagon There's not just not just Gramatine, and do it's just Doing different things

and do, I'm just going to Not as much It's just It's just a very It's just Yeah, you don't need to be faster in this fight

We just have to do the right thing At the right time, you know Just that's what I'm preparing for him You have to hit him hard You know at the right times With Tj out of the picture Obviously we know that the title Is on the line that night

But does he think that Wins mean a lot more? when the champion is gone, like, you know, the matchmakers are watching these fights and kind of thinking about who could be next in line. Does he feel like a win is even bigger now, with the champion being, with the championship being vacated and to be decided that night? Uh, uh, uh, Tj is disqualified for two years and now is now champion in this division and in that tournament where you're going to be

you're going to be a new champion. It's a situation, it's is it to play for you in your, in their in their, in their, in their, to fight to their title? Yeah, she'll play

not in a hand, because there will be, again, Sterling, Speed Ritt and my boy Jimmy, I think, that... I'd want, yeah, I'd would, yeah, I'd rather

to, yeah, I'd rather, and I'm glad that we'll be able to be laughing. Yeah, I'm glad that's... Can I already hear him laughing. Yeah, and he said, like, I'm glad that the situation is like it is right now, like a new champion will be crowned the same night. I'll be fighting. Also, Al Jemain will be fighting Petrito on that night.

So he's sure, like matchmakers can watch closely, and it will help. him to get the title line for sure was he surprised to hear about TJ we've heard a lot of reactions about this and obviously guys who used to train with him a lot of them have said they weren't very surprised was was he surprised did he ever have any doubts about TJ? There was he was a bit of a lot of them. Many of his on the co-clubnics, not been

you're not really, you're did it? You've got to he? He's, I'm not really really, I'm actually actually, I'm actually, I'm actually,

get him, he's got, he's not, I'm, bro, Joe, brother, I don't know, I really,

he's like, I don't give a fuck about DJ, like, I don't care what he does, what he did, you know, I don't give a fuck about him.

If he's, if he, if he, he said, like, he, he's, he said, They're d'giby they, they know. And if he's streamed, it wasn't surprised that he got caught,

you know, they're idiots because they knew everything, you know, and who knows what they're doing themselves. Do you think two years is long enough? Does he think that was a long enough ban? Or, you know, some people think that this should be a lifetime ban? Do you think that two years too long-a-old-discuitary? Many do you think, that's too much-a-old. Yeah, no, for-gisnily.

I think two years and so many, in the many of the players of lovili. I think that, it's, like, it's just much for him for him two years. Like, two years is too much.

Like two years is a standard in the U.S.C. So I think two years is going to be long two years for him anyway. Right, right. You know, I was watching John Lineker and Corey Sandhagen last night and I was wondering how Peter felt about that.

I mean, has he watched that fight? Has he watched that fight? Because I know the Lineker fight was one he wanted for a long time. Does he still want the fight after John has lost now to Corey? Yeah. Look, if you were Linnekerer, what you've got about this boy? Do you think about it? I'd like to fight.

If he's still still to fight, he'll have, he won't. He'll have been more than me in rating. I'd like to him to fight. If he's below me than me, but I'd really would have to be able to be. If he, it would, if, you know, that's not. If he's got up, he'll be more than he, than he can't. If somehow he'll be still ranked higher than me, then I can fight him, you know. But if he's going to be ranked lower than me, like, I don't, I don't see any interest in fighting him.

But if that's a fight that you see what you'll want, and this fight will bring me closer to the title, I will take this fight, you know. His head is bigger than his body and it's hard not to hit him, you know. You know? You know, his large head and his white punches, you know, it's like a Aizhanna for me. And what does he think of Sandhagen? Does he think he will be a fixture at the top of the division? Because I know Peter plans to be at the top of this division for a long, long time.

What do you think about his competitors, Corey Sanhagen, you don't think of the top of for for for for for for for for for for for for for He can't get to be able to get him. He's a basic. He's, he's a bit of a different, he's, he's a different, but he's a little bit of a He's a lot of, he never, he never

he never, he never, he never, he's practically, plus, he, and he, I see that, that, the, there, no, he's not having, he could, he could, he could, he could, he could, he, in the, of, in, technically, I don't think, that, maybe, maybe, he, he, I don't know, he, I've never once in a life,

it's a first fight I saw of Corey I can tell like he's a he's a striker you know have a good striking base but I can see like yeah I can see he's like still like fights like an amateur you know he landed the hundreds and hundreds of punches and never like put Linaker in trouble in real trouble so he's scoring points rather than hitting too Yeah, he's like a point fighter and he's like, Peter C's a holes. He's wrestling and grappling too. And yeah, he would like to fuck him up in the future too. Ham, I just, you know, we talked about the, it's nearly like a...

What you smile, brother, what you smile, huh? I'm getting afraid now. I'm getting too afraid from here. But, him... I'm going to be afraid. No problem, man. No problem. Okay, okay.

I got to ask him about the tournament. We talked about, you know, he's fighting, and so is Al Jermaine and Al Jermain's fighting, Pedrito, and obviously then we have at the very top. Marlon Moroise and Henry Sehudo. What does he think of these fights? Who does he think is going to come away with the win? We know he is picking himself to beat Jimmy,

but between Pedro and Al Jermaine, what does he think will happen? And Henry and Marlon. What do you think? Who will be in those battles? Henry, against Marlon and Jedro against Al Jemaine? I think that Marlon Henry 50 to, I don't know, I think if Marlon will never, that this

boy will be able to longer two rounds, I think he'll win. And if, I don't know, I think, that's a big point, I'll see how Gendry will be able to do. I think of Stanley he won't know. So Marlon and Henry fight is pretty even

I think it's 50-50 I think in the early rounds Henry have more chances to win and if fights go longer I think Marlon have an advantage and Pedro and

Algeman I think Algeman is a favorite but it is also hard hard to guess right right and you know I know I know I've asked Peter about this before, but, you know, I can't, I always try to tell people,

the only loss of his career is quite controversial. I spoke to a judge who worked with ACB at the time and he told me that this fight should have been a draw, a majority draw, not a decision loss because he had a point deducted and then the head judge deducted a further point. I know I've asked him about this before, but is it an annoying because we know how valuable undefeated careers are in combat sports? You know, does he feel like this should be in no contest? He said, many people don't know, but he says, you know,

that your perjohnia not should be considered as a result of a lot, that was, it was notherst not because of that the ball, even, even, also, pre-suged you

perjation, it's a lot of, it's, and, like, you, the record, the Lomont, also gives, some benefit.

But it's, But it doesn't really, I understand that I didn't I don't know that I don't have a with a shot, we had a nighia. So these just, like, whi drenna's just, like, three n'nots, and it would be 13-0. And it's all right, it's all right? You know, it's just, it doesn't.

Yeah, it doesn't, I know me too much right now, don't think about it at all, but, yeah, like you said, even with a yellow card, It was a draw and they took this away from me, you know. I could have been undefeited now. And even the headbutt didn't look like a headbut to me. You know, when I was looking back at it, it seems like a very harsh penalty. He said, he said, he said, he was, he was not so much serious.

You know, you, obviously, from my godemad, you know, like in my years of swelna, so he's, like, he felled, like, he, all right, forget, you know, like, sorry son. Yeah, it was nothing, you know. The only reason you know about Magam made it because of me, you know. Just forget about him from now already. Finally, and thank you so much for this, this is brilliant. This couldn't have gone better. But I must ask, what is his prediction for Jimmy Rivera?

I know it's a bit of a cliche, but I've got to ask, what does he think is going to happen? He said, he must ask, he should ask, what he's going to be with Rivera? Prognose to Boy? D' D'emu Pizzle,

brotan. What I'm Progna, go out of To go, To get to do you To grab To say,

N'h Who's next Nah-Nah Yeah, my prediction is To beat the shit out of Him and then

Celebrate the victory And ask Who's next That is brilliant So yeah, Thank you so much My friend

This has been Absolutely brilliant Oh man This was fantastic Thank you Peter Amazing to speak to you again Good questions. Good questions. Good question. Thank you and enjoy the rest of the day in Fouquet.

Oh, is he speaking English? Yeah, a little bit. Oh, very good. Very good. You're going to be so, you won't be as busy as usual, So yeah. Well, what a trip that was with Mr. Peter Jan, no mercy, the Siberian gangster, whatever you want to call him. That was very, very good fun. I'm really looking forward to that whole card now after speaking to him. And now we're going to go over to an interview with Risen Light Heavyweight Champion,

Yeri Pro Haska, who won the title of Mo Loll. It was an inaugural title, so he didn't win it off, I suppose. It was vacant. But huge win. Absolute Masterclass at Risen 15. And he has some big plans. And he called for a fight with Mr. Ryan Bader. So we'll come back to you after this interview and look at what happened.

last weekend. MMAfighting.com and I am joined by Risen Lloyd Heavyweight Champion Yiri Prohasker. Yeri, how are you, my friend? And congratulations on a fantastic win. Hi, everybody. Thank you. Thank you. I'm good. I'm good. Now I'm, I take care to my body after fight because a little some, I crash, a little crack my, my finger. But it will be good. It's not so much big, big, it's so, no horrible. Okay, okay. And I mean, how did it feel for you to return home after getting this title?

Did a lot of people congratulate you? Was there a big reception for you when you came home to Czech Republic? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The people here take it like a big, like big big thing, yeah? It is a big thing. Yeah, like a big thing for

for a Czech Czech, check MMA, you know? It's something like biggest, biggest, biggest, it is probably the biggest moment for

Czech MMA, right? It's probably the biggest situation. Yes, yes. But I take it like, like it's a, It's just one stop on my way. I'm thinking about more these titles. I don't show my full 100%, because I need more fights.

And I know when I... feel like I want, it will be more better. Yes, yes, I understand. I understand. I've got to ask you, Mohammed Lal was the only person who had beaten you in Risen until this fight, and then you got revenge. Did that feel good, given that he had a victory over you in the past? Yes, I feel like that.

Yeah, but I don't take it like a revenge. Yes? Because revenge is I don't hate people. I take it like another fight. Yes, yes. It was for me another fight, another man. And it was in Yokohama, so it was another place in Tokyo. Yes, yes. And you know, we are so excited to see European guys fighting in Risen. How did you get to Risen? Because you, you were. You have been fighting there for nearly four years. Yeah, yeah.

It was, I think, three, four years back before one fight, the one manager from Risen sent me the message, and I don't read it. I don't read it. I think two weeks I don't read it because I was in prepared to fight in Russia. So one time I open it and read it and say that to my manager and he was very excited from this and tell me after this fight from Russia we go to Japan But I don't, I, from in this time, in this time, I don't want to go, don't want to go to rise in and another fight after fight.

And it was, it was, it was, how to say, pyramid, you know, it was more, more fights, eight, eight, eight men. eight men yes a tournament yeah a tournament we took it and

and it was very good it was I think the best best in my life wow I've got to ask you a guy you have fought before

Carl Albrexan he got a win that night do you believe that Risen will try to match you two guys up for the title next

I think yes but I don't I don't believe I don't believe that I think the carol need more fights to be

to say that to challenge for the title yeah to challenge for the title I understand I understand and because you won because because to deserve the title

yeah because because he he has just a one fight in rising and and this one fight this one fight in rising

it wasn't so wasn't so so much great but he won yeah he won and and and

for me he he will be a good opponent, I think, because I know him, he know me, and this fight, second one will be another, another and different. Even bigger as well, because the title is on the line, right? Yeah, yeah, of course. You know, we were looking at you and how you have claimed the title for Risen, and we noticed that Bellator and Risen do a lot of business.

together. You know, we see Horiguchi fighting Darion Caldwell from Bellator. Would you like an opportunity to fight the Belator champion, Ryan Bader? Yeah, this is what I'm looking for. This is for me, I like to have

a big, big challenges, yeah? And I need to have I need to have big challenge, to feel like they want to take my life

when I fight for my life and I fight the best I show my best and this this fight in Bellator title or something like that will be for me the biggest challenge and I will show

my best because my last three fights in Rizin before the title was not so good because the opponents, yeah, opponents was good. But you couldn't get excited. You couldn't get excited for the boys. Yes, yes, yes. That's amazing. You know, when I look at you and look at your striking, I am blown away by how good you are. And I think against Mohamed Laal this time, your striking

was so fantastic. Do you think that your striking would cause problems for Ryan Bader now? I think when I have when I have an opponent I can I can do I can do the strategy for the fight and there

there is no problems for that for Ryan Bader no problems I think I think no I'm looking for I looking for I try to

to punch like I have in my head fight from UFC Lyoto Machida versus Ryan Biden and this fight is my very favorite because

in this fight is their fight showing the best technique the catching the moment and you saw that fight? Yes yes I know what you're talking about you. Yes, it was, it was, it was not so, not so long fight, but this is, this is how

I want the fight, yeah, one, two great punches, but so much precision, so much good moves, moment, catch the moment, and it's over. Yeah, this is for me, the mastery. Yes, yes. This is me what I want. I would love to see that fight, Yuri. I would love to see it. I hope somehow this happens because in Bellator, Ryan Bader doesn't have any natural opponents. There's nobody that you can push up and say, this is the

light heavyweight for you. So I think Risen and Belator should make this fight happen. Yeah, I think I pray for that and I want to do that because this will be, for me,

big challenge and and it's wait wait wait I have translated it could take you to the next level

your whole career would go to the next level right it's no no it's give me the sense yeah for the the show

to give my life in this fight to give everything to this fight yeah yes yes and this is why I'm fighting

think you know when I look at you you are so young you are only 26 years of age right yeah 26 that's amazing you have such a big future it's crazy you agree right I mean many many many more years of fighting yeah thanks but but it's it's a way it's way it's I do that from from I do that from my uh seven team. Now we'll be, now it's 10 years, 10 years, something like that.

That's incredible. Do you someday want to fight in the UFC? Is that a goal of yours, or are you happy to fight with Risen? Yes, it is, but I'm thinking about the don't go to the UFC, Like that.

Like that I am now. I want to go to the UFC or to fight the champion from UFC with some name to do my name bigger. Yeah. To be a champion from, I don't know, from rising, from battle. And then I go to the title from UFC. Wow, that would be incredible. Yes. I need more experiences from fighting and then I go everywhere.

Well, when do you hope to fight again? What is your ideal time to fight again? My idea to fight again? Yes, when in the year would you like to fight again? I don't know. I don't care. I think I don't care. I don't care. I need just two, three weeks now to go to go my things.

Go crazy. Little relax. Keep the way. A little travel, but still keep the way, technique, drill. And then I want to fight. Then I want to fight because I feel, I feel, already all year. I'm not like

I'm not like every fighters because they need two months or three months preparing for one fight and then after fight eating like eating bullshit and

nothing nothing doing I I eating all the year how I want how I feel that how I feel this is that's better best from my body i i am physically ready to fight all the year amazing amazing yuri thank you so much for joining us on the podcast it's been amazing to talk to you i have been very entertained by everything you've been doing and i cannot wait to see you for it again thank you

thank you so much congratulations thank you we did it let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's Let's go for the next challenges. Absolutely. You go ahead and you have a few glasses of beer and you relax for a couple of weeks. Thank you. Thank you. All the best.

Bye-bye. Bye-bye. And it was great to speak to Yiri Pro Jaka. You know, the guy is only learning to speak English and he got on to speak to us and he put his point across as well. And we spoke about this just after that win, Noel. I mean, with Caldwell v. Harriuchi 2 just being announced. I mean, why not put the Risenloid heavyweight heavyweight champion in with Bader?

There's no real natural, this is the next guy that needs to take him on. There's nothing for Bader really. Let's be honest. There's not nothing. I mean, they do Phil Davis probably if he beat the I'm carrier. We've seen that before. We've seen a lot of these fights. You know, they've crossed one before, as you just said there, Harroguchi-Cow.

Well, why not do it again? Why not do it on a show like that? You know, nothing wrong. I'm sure Ryan Bader will be well up for it. It's a fight that very much makes sense. and you know especially in that division across mixed martial arts we need new contenders right at the very top of the game and top of the second best promotion in the world of Bellator MMA

and it does it makes sense to do it with it. And this guy looks like a talent, you know? Like I mean if you're not going to mole all, I mean... Yeah, you're doing something right? Exactly, yeah, yeah. You know, and I think Bellator will be very interested in that because there is, there's a lack of real depth in that division across the board, not just in Bellator but more so,

battles are obviously in the UFC so I think it's an o-brainer to be honest you Peter he's got great hands great hands I'd love to see bader in there against him I mean obviously bader is a fantastic fighter I'm not saying it would be a walk in the park whatsoever but I mean when you're a guy that young you've got nothing to lose you've already won a huge international title why not why not go ahead and do it and I'm going to just fly through ksw 48 what happened there pernasse was absolutely unbelievable again he had a lot more power in his punches he told me before this fight, Noel, that, oh, I don't think I'm finishing him. I'm not such a powerful puncher, goes in there and throws hell for leather. Unbelievable. He's

looking at the referee at the end. T.K. O. The guy, like, here, you're going to do this. Eventually, the ref got involved. Look, this guy's 21 years of age. He's finished all four, I mean, sorry, he's beating all four guys being put up against in KSW. And some of the former champions, Arthur Swinsky, stuff like this. I mean, he is absolutely brilliant. And I would love to see him versus Gamrod. Why not? Again, I'll say, look, he's the interim he's the interim champion gamrots the the undisputed champion i believe so i mean

the thing is saladin told me he thinks that gamrots next fight is to defend his 55 title so he's probably not going to fight him this year but next year my god please please let that fight happen that guy is magic and look you're this you're 13 and oh you're this young in your career you have so much ahead of you

like he there there are mistakes be made by a guy like this it is going to happen but my god when he's in full flight he's absolutely brilliant. I mean, he's such an exciting prospect. Let's hope they do, because Gamrod a lot of the time, and I'm a believer in this, they do sort of let Gamrod do what he wants. You want to see someone that's going to go in there and roughly some few fetters. Exactly, and I think

KSW and Martin Lewandau is going to do that because they were very protective of Matthias after the Norman Park instance and things like that, which went on there. And, you know, a lot of other promotions. Who-e-e. You know, yeah. Who-ah. But, you know, a lot of other guys would have been suspended in other promotions,

I feel. Absolutely. the Jerkowski, a legend in KSW, a man who debuted in their first debut show, it's incredible. He got revenge for his loss to Bekavik, who he fought in the Khamain event. The first fight ended in an injury, their second fight ended in an injury with Juraz getting revenge this time. So maybe not the big finish people wanted, but it was an entertaining fight. They came out in Mortal Kombat year. I really enjoyed that.

That's all you can ask for. okay, SW really. Marion Juleskowski really upset the Apple Card, but it went over Gretan Skazinsky. As we know, Grecann had that big K-O over Paul Redmond, who was referred to as Phil on the broadcast, but

Marion Zulkowski came in and he was absolutely brilliant. He dominated him and, you know, he dropped him twice in the first and second round, which nobody would have predicted, but really fantastic showing from him. And I guess he's taking a lot of momentum because a lot of people thought Grecan was going to be the next guy of

55 for Gamrod if he had to won that so huge momentum steeler there um philippe pedjich from croatia which we mentioned earlier could be a potential location for ksw in the future he got a great win over philip walenski it was a beautiful two beautiful head kicks set up but then he finished on the ground was really really nice um cesare kessich and chamil musayaf had fantastic debuts two undefeated prospects guys i'll definitely be taking a look at uh for the 2020 prospects list because very,

very impressive altogether. That was KSW. Cage Warriors 104 started an hour later from Cardiff Wales

the beautiful Viola where I have been before to see Cage Warriors 100 and again I'll say it again massive day for Wales 7 and 0 on the night

for the professional card but Jack Shore we talked about him briefly at the start this guy do you think he's ready based on what you said, do you think he's 100% ready?

I do as well. 100% ready, especially after the other night. Just as I said there, you know, when a guy is so calm in any facet, even when he's under that amount of pressure in the opening rounds,

it says to me that he's confident enough looking at his face, seeing how relaxed, how composed, how cerebrally was and what he was doing. No question for me that he's ready. You know, everywhere the fight was going, he was comfortable, he was dealing with it,

he didn't panic. It was just such an mature performance from such a young guy and I think everyone in the UFC if anyone was watching should be pretty scared they don't want to fight a guy like that that's that that that's

that that is that cool, calm and calculated yeah and he's so he's so unassuming in the way like you don't he doesn't really talk smack and he never really puts his opponents down he's always bigging up everybody around him I think it's just a breath of fresh air to be honest

I think he's really really kind of a different fighter you know so many people in the past relying on trash talk stuff like this that's 100 miles away from anything Jack Schur does. It is, yeah. And yeah, it is. It's a different approach and it's an approach. I think we're seeing a lot of young guys take these days. Learn for the mistakes of many. Yeah, and I think maybe, you know, it's a new trend.

Not obviously the guy that we have on. We always have a fight on in the background we're watching. Mike Perry's just going on there. Mike Perry is dancing. Dancing like a relentless bunny rabbit on acid. Yeah, that's him. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's my party. But yeah, no, listen, it is. And I think obviously what we saw with Mr. McGregor and Abbey. and all the things that went on there as well,

you know, post and pre-fight. But maybe, you know, the young lads are going in a different route. But yeah, listen, I love the trash talk as well. I can't say I don't. But it's his style and it works for him. Do it. Do it works for you, brother. Mason Jones called for a lightweight title shot after his decision win over Donovan Desme, a really competitive fight.

Donovan gave him a good go. But Mason had too much from Indiana. And I really felt it was a good showcase of his complete Arsenal. We saw some massive wrestling throws. we saw him dealing very well with the ground transitions of Donovan, who was a fantastic grappler. Yeah, so I really feel like when I look at this, I think Mason's next in line for that Welsh kind of, he's going to be the next flag bearer for Wales, you know, if Jack does go. I don't know if you saw Jamie Richardson and Phil Wells. Did you see this?

This was absolutely mental. So at the end of the second round, Wells basically has Richards and finish. He needs him in the body, which then falls to the canvas. Phil starts he's up against occasion and Phil starts laying in with digs and just suddenly stops so he suddenly stops and walks away

he thinks he's the end of the round Mark Goddard screaming his face it's not the end of the round runs back in the round ends Did Brad say unbelievable He did Of course he did Brad

Brad and Josh were actually brilliant They were all that was great They were really really good though in the Jones and Desmey Foyle found with the with the grappling transition Josh is really good He's obviously a blackdown

I literally did my catching up because it was working starting night and I literally did my catching up yesterday and today on all the fights. Well, let me tell you what happened with Richardson and Wells first, right? So that ends the second round. The third round starts. The exchanges start flying in the last minute. Richardson

again gets rocked. Looks like he's out of there. Goddard's right on top of it, taking a very close look. Then Richardson starts firing back. He ends up separating Wells from his senses with a minute left and winning the fight. After just the round before being completely finished. So Richardson wins

it. You know, I've heard from people there. Some people saw the video and were like, is that an early stobbage? Every single person that I talked to that was there was like it was a perfect stoppage. He was, the camera panned away in the broadcast so you couldn't really get a look at Wells but apparently he was completely at sixes and sevens didn't know where he was, you know? So fair play to Goddard for that one. A brilliant fight. He's got to go back and watch it. Even watch it from halfway through. I watched, I watched Jack on amazing today, yeah.

And Corey McKenna, fantastic. a rare naked joke when she had a very tough first round off Fanny Redmond her opponent who was making her second trip to the competitive cage as a professional so that's her she's now one and one but Corey improves the three and

one and once again looks like she has a fantastic future she thanked you Roy of favour she's over there quite a lot now yeah she was over an alpha mess so yeah that's a big win and I think the the girls she's fighting was a I'm off champ is that correct yes yes that's that is right yeah that is correct and Chris

Edwards took a decision over Josh Abram. That was a really good back and forth fight as well. Josh Reed, relentless top control to get a decision win over at the Pepp, who Jack Shore has faced on his run to the title. And then two great debuts from two other Welsh guys, Obyn Elliott, who a lot of people are very excited about, and Ben Ellis. You know, I think they were predicted to win. They were in against guys with losing records, but nonetheless got the job done.

And as we always say in those early days of your career, it really doesn't matter who you're fighting, just get in there and get about it and see what it all is and get that level of comfort up. So absolutely brilliant now for Cage Warriors. You know, Jack is a loss, but Jesus Christ, they have some amount of talent there, don't they, in Wales?

It's kind of like what they had in Ireland. You know, it is, yeah. It's a similar kind of thing. There's so many guys, or so many guys fans are interested. Like every week I have different guys, different fans getting on to me, oh, you have to look at this lad from Wales.

You know, it's unbelievable what's going on there. Yeah, it is. and it's great to see you know it's obviously being the UFC haven't been great at really scouting out on the Irish talent here so it's great to see it being divided around the UK and the Republic of Ireland

and I think just for the interest and the growth of the sport as well it's fantastic and on this side of the pond definitely yes indeedy did you um did you watch UFC and Fort Lauderdale I did indeed now we talked about Jack earlier on

um I mean the one thing, right, the most impressive thing I found about this is, right? Every time anyone gets in there with Jack Array Sosa, they don't even present the ground in. They're saying like, we know, we know you want to go down there. But not only was Hermanson not afraid to take Jackeray down, he made Jackaray afraid to go down. Because when he went down in the first round, that weird guillotine he sets up with his massive arms that I don't know how he's setting up. It was a half a twister or something about it was just a mild. But that guillotine is so, like to force Jack Array to do that much work to get out of submission,

I don't think I've seen it. Unbelievable. And then the second round, maybe it wasn't the most exciting to watch, but he did not stop throwing digs for that whole second round. As soon as he got top control, and that must have been absolutely energy sapping for Jack Gray. I thought he had it at one point in the second. And then he was very, very clever in the third, as you said. Took it off.

Took it off the pace a little bit, got a bit of freshness back. And then up to it again in the fourth and fifth. Brilliant. Up against the cage, as we thought it. what if it was going to go to deeper rounds, grind him, where on the older guy, as you said, when he got him to the deck, just constantly working and neutralising the anti-that-thing

that Jack Ray was trying to throw at him. Absolutely fantastic. And as I said, I don't think anyone in that top six now, which he's probably going to be in, you know, tomorrow. Well, deserves to be. The stupid UFC rankings that they are. But, yeah, this is a guy no one's going to want to get in there. And momentum, we said it coming in again.

It proves itself to be a massive, massive thing with fighters' confidence. And again, that was very much the case. Jacaray for me he's not the force he once was but still it is that statement it is that breakthrough and I think the UFC in terms of getting new guys interest in Scandinavia

he's very much now for me the poster boy and the guy that could really cause a couple upsets in this year just the way in which he fights maybe it's not always the best fighter that wins but if you implement your skills set and your strengths and what you can do best and that was just textbook yeah I agree

the one thing I was going to say he is, I watched his post-fight press conference, he was actually brilliant really, really good. The best of seeing Jack speaking, you can tell he's just full of energy, full of life after such an amazing win. But what he said is, he's going to ask the UFC,

who do I need to fight to get to a title? Who do you think he needs to fight to get to a title? Wow, that's... I know, well, that's the only thing I can think of really is... That's a million dollar question, you know, it's a fight that would probably make sense for him in terms of... Again, it's a lot of...

lot like the fight we've just seen would be someone like a Chris Wyman. Yes. And that's the fight he was after for a long time as well. That would just give further reassurance, I think, if he was to beat Chris Wybin. I think he asked for Y'all Romero backstage with Megan O'Leavy. He's probably the only man in UFC history that's asked to fight Y'Roy. And Jackaray, nobody wants to fight Jackaray. Yeah, it's very true. So I think what it says about him, he's balls of steel as well. And, you know, I think one of those fights, maybe if any one is their doubts, and I think

we were pretty confident he was going to win last week. I'd say you were more confident than I was, to be fair. Like I was saying he can definitely do it. I'll say with him. I think he has the momentum playing with him. But, like, I mean, Jackerer is one of the greatest fighters of all kind. I think he could have pushed for a finish. I honestly do, but I think he was very cerebral on what he was doing in his approach.

He said in the post fight, he said, I tried for the finish early because that was one of two ways I saw it going. He said, either I finish him with this guillotine or else we're going to hell for five rounds. That's what I thought. And I think the second was probably the round. where he could have finished it and it was just a fantastic word but I think that one would be the one

because let's look at Chris Wyman let's be honest I know he's sort of he's bounced back it's been very inconsistent as of late and I think if you really want to push him on you know Jacques around Chris Wyman that's more or less a title shot for me in the middleweight division at the moment

and I know we obviously have the bit of the log jam there and I'll see what's going to happen well there's no way they're going to match either Israel or Whitiger before that way happens in Australia so you may as well get busy doing something else exactly yeah definitely because

he's not going to fight one of them off the bat anyway so it doesn't make a difference if you look at the the UFC rankings and now Wyman's 6 I'm not sure where Jackaray was Jackeray was four was four okay so he's yeah well like even then like you know maybe Romero is the option makes sense

for him it would make sense so why not why not do it there was something about when he was walking to the Israel Romero the I know it I know we start Chris Wyman, but, like, you know, is he the force? I think he is, yeah. I do.

Yeah, I think he's unbelievable. I think Jack Gray is as well, to be honest. I just feel like Jack Gray came into that contest with everything to lose, and there was Jack Hermanson, who has been waiting for an opportunity his whole fucking life. And there wasn't, like, when I just saw Hermanson walking to the octagon. He sort of knew, didn't you? I was like, this guy is a different energy tonight. He's like, I'm going in there to die, basically.

like I mean and then the jaccarate then came out and he was very strong as well like he kept on shouting overcome overcome and I was going this all right this is crazy maybe he was doubting himself yeah maybe overcome the doubt yeah maybe that's it yeah but I think there is fights there there there's obviously a few we can we can we can shock off as we said and there is as well you know Costa that will be obviously won't be happening for quite some time they're still looking into things there well that's why I don't want to go too crazy on it but yeah listen you could rule that one out for the moment I think and Checking his bushes for Jeff Noviceky. You know, really, why not like Kelvin Gasselham either? Calvin wants to bounce back. I know it's going to be a while before he's back in there. But, you know, these are fights that make sense. And I think, you know, Jack is going to be game for any of them. So there's three or four there that are really interesting.

Definitely. Yeah, well, Greg Hardy is in the UFC. Yeah. He got his first UFC win. and for the first time in my life I'm agreeing with Dana White here. I think that we should look at this a different way, right? Okay, but I can just say for the record,

Smolayakoff looked like he didn't belong in there. Yeah. If you could make Greg Hardy look like he's in the octagon, he looked like he belongs in the UFC, you probably shouldn't be in the UFC. Yeah, I understand that, but I think you have to, if you look at the fundamentals and the basics,

how much there was an improvement from Greg Hardy. Yeah, no, I didn't really note this, because I was just looking at a job or... But he did. He closed off the angles. His strike and looked crisp, sharp. He didn't drop his hands.

He's huge. He is massive. It's so weird. And he does have power. Oh, there's no doubt. There's no doubt. His whole body is just incredible. Like, I mean, he's incredible athletes.

There's no doubt about that. When he obviously got him to the deck, he didn't just lash out. He was very thoughtful on what he was doing, landing the shots. He actually stopped once or twice, repositioned his hands and then landed. So I think you have to give you a bit of credit here to Greg,

to Greg, I know his opponent wasn't up to much at all, but, you know, as they say, and it's not his fault, you know, Smoliyakov thought he turned down the fight, apparently, in the pre-fight talk. So you can only beat what's put in front of you. So, you know, fair play.

If you watch the fight back again, Greg Hardy did a lot of things that were very positive there because everyone shot him, you know, from his first performance, which, yeah, he looked out of it, but way, way, like I'm talking about 100 times better, I thought in terms of technique. The most winning opponent Smolayakov has ever beaten

was in his debut. six and one okay then he beat an O and two guy then he bet a no and one guy then he bet a one and two guy then he bet a one and O guy then he bet a one and one guy

then he bet a one and one guy and then he bet a five and two going got the UFC Dana White can moan all he wants but he's doing it yeah he's the one who's doing it he's the one who's matching them up with these guys so listen

so you want to be a fucking fighter yeah exactly like Greg Hardy go ahead you're him it's just double standards the whole time from from Dana and the UFC so listen I'm I'm hats off to Greg Hardy

in this one. Well, along Greg. Okay. Yeah, so that was obviously a loss for Russia after the main event win. We also had Ian Kutalaba on the card who started so well. We fancied him to have a fast start, but he did not have

that continued presence throughout the fight. He got some in the second round by Glover Tosher. Every time I think somebody's about to get a changing of the guards win against Glover, he does that. Yeah, it's... And look, as soon as he got mounted on the guy I was like this is over.

With Clover, you know, that air of invincibility's gone a long time ago. And I think you know, it's just sort of... Even the air of contendership. Yeah, it's, you know, what is he? You know, it's... He's a very good fighter.

There's too many guys like that in that division. There really is. Very good fighters who can't push on. Yeah, they're just literally gay keepers, top five, six and they're never going to win a world title, sorry. And there's Jones and Carmier. That's it.

Really. And... Don't forget our friend from Sandeman. Oh, Johnny Walker, of course. Yes, yes indeed. And maybe Alexander Rackich, Eurobash veteran Mike Nicka, a splash there later on.

Yeah, definitely. Sorry, we missed Mike Perry and Oliver. What a great fight that was. That was good, yeah. And we spoke about the Darren Till. Who the fuck all that a lot of split decision? No, it was a unanimous? Oh, was it unanimous?

It was indeed. The split decision was Corey Sandhagan and John Linnaker, which was a very entertaining fight again. You heard what Peter Yan had to say about it earlier. he didn't really say anything about the entertainment value but it was a good fight to watch I guess the stoils were so different Sandhagen obviously borrows heavily

from the Dominic Cruz field of striking and John Linnock of course Hans of Stone marching forward planting the body into the head it was an entertaining fight for me to be honest I was thoroughly entertained We talked about this fight last week

San Hagan Thor and O now in the UFC You know look at the guys he's beating as well you know no mugs in there at all Absolutely not. So this is a guy you need to keep your eyes on. And I think Bantamweight really is, with the talent that's coming in from Europe as well, it's becoming like 155 pounds with the depth we've seen over the last two years.

It's really grown as a flourishing division to really excite the fans. And I think we're going to see some superstars here in the next couple of years in that division. Especially from Europe. Sato got a second round, ground and pound win over Ben Sanders. as Noel predicted, Andre Olofsky goes to a split decision. Very, very, uh,

one eventful fight, we'll say. Carla Aspires have got a unanimous decision win over Verna Janryboba. I definitely not say that name right. Gilbert Burns, masterclass of jihitsu. His class burns.

Oh, stop. Second round submission over Mike Davis, absolutely brilliant Dorino. I saw my, uh, my friends from the Royal Grapplin Academy. I saw that WhatsApp group, group absolutely lighten up when that,

when that fight was. went through one. Jim Miller would win again over Jason Gonzalez, second round rear naked choke. Angela Hill

with a unanimous decision win over Jodie Escobel and Diego Lima got things off to start with a split decision over Court McGee. So that's everything from the UFC card

and we got a word with Mr. Jack Shaw the champion of Eurobache, the reigning, defending champion because we wanted to just clear up what was going on if he'd heard anything

and... Yeah, just really with the stuff what Boylan said after the fight that he was headlining in Wales as well. Yeah, yeah. We've got all that stuff there for you. Always a pleasure to speak to the champ and we'll be back after this in 10 minutes.

MMAFighting.com and the champ is here. Mr. Jack Shore after his successful defence of the Cage Warriors Bantamweight title against Scott Malone on Saturday night in Wales. Jack, thanks so much for getting back onto us, man.

I really appreciate it. me how does it feel to finally defend that title yeah it feels good um fight well exactly as i thought it would um but yeah you know it's always always nice that the couple of days after fight to uh to see the hard work pay off and you know and especially when you put a good performance like that it says it's nice to um to see what you're doing is paying off and obviously working yeah and i mean you saying you call this um i mean you call it to a tea when you're on with us you expected that a fast start from scott who did very well and the first round but I mean was that what you expected like coming up against a judoka of his level

like one of the best in the europe when he was competing and did you expect that kind of early take down offense from him yeah I knew he's going to come out fast um obviously when someone like scott being being at the level he was with judo he's also done it all his life so they've got you know a different kind of strength um to what your normal normal fighter is so I knew coming out the blocks he would come fast and hard and it was just a matter of you know not letting him sort of uh use that explosion of at explosiveness but but just let him burn out you know make him work in the exchanges and when i take down the fence and and you know and then see him out there you know towards the end of the you know second third fourth round was the plan and obviously that's just how we went

he um he tied out a little bit i think after such an explosive first round i think my my my mid kicks and stuff like that out to slow him down as well yeah yeah i will ask you about that now in a minute, but I was just wondering, was that why you were forcing the exchanges a lot? Like, I mean, you didn't seem to show you away from them, even though maybe he scored a couple takedowns in the first. Was your plan to just make him work, work, work for as much as he could in the early rounds? Yeah, that was it. Also, I got a lot of faith in my defensive wrestling, as well as my offensive, because not a lot of people have really seen me, you know, defend too many takedowns, because usually I'm the one who ends up with a top position. But coming in against someone

like Scott, I knew there was obviously that chance where I was going to, I know my defense is very high level, you know, I got guys in the gym were big strong rest, there's a lot bigger than me, and they struggled to get me down with ease and keep me down. So it was, that was exactly it. You know, I didn't try away from the exchange because I knew if he did it, then the entry, you know, for the takedown or the clints, and I would be able to go on my own and make him work. And I knew he wouldn't be able to settle or just get me down and keep me down. There seemed to be a moment, I believe it was in the second round. It could be wrong, where you kind of, as you said earlier, you caught him with a kick across the midriff.

And from that point on, it seemed very clear that you were the guy with the momentum. You were the guy that was pushing the pace and you were the fresher fighter. Did you notice that in there? Did the body shot have a big payoff for you there? Yeah. Just before I felt I felt I found my range, I'd worked his timing out. There was a nice right hand, right, just before the body shot. Yeah, I was making a miss of a lot of his shots.

He was over-reaching. I was able to catch him with a jab on the right hand. and then that mid-kick, you obviously could see it in there, you could see the look on his face, I seen it hurt him. But again, you know, he was still dangerous

with the clinch exchange, so I didn't want to pull those forward and try and get him out of there and then because I knew, you know, his natural reaction would be to sort of change level and try and get all the main keep all. I knew it was on long left in the round,

so I thought, just keep tripping away. And I knew, obviously, you know, it was a massive shot. I seen it there and then, so I knew there's no way you would be able to recover from that even with the end of the round and then coming out for the third.

I could see, you could see in his pace and his body language, you know, that it had slowed him down. He wasn't throwing as much. He wasn't as sharp. He wasn't as keen on shooting for them entries. And, you know, that ultimately led to me, obviously, coming out and then turning the momentum of the fight. Absolutely. Absolutely. Now, Jack, you spoke to us beforehand and you spoke about the UFC.

If that call came, you'd be willing to take it. I can't believe the amount of people that are online talking about Jack Shaw needs to be in the UFC. This is the performance. I mean, after that, you said you'd know you'd be ready after you fight Scott and you got the win as you had forecast. But does that, does that even, is it even more stronger now you're feeling that you're ready to fight in the biggest, on the biggest stage in the world? Yeah, 100%. I think, you know, domestically, I've beaten everyone there is to beat Scott and Mike, you know, apart from me, would probably wipe out the majority of the, you know, anyone else in the, in the Bantamake Division in K-Dawries, fight Scotland. Two great fighters, of course, yeah.

They're going to be in for a tough. night if I didn't even fight either of those. So, you know, I feel like I've dealt with those guys. And that's not disrespectful shout to them. You know, they both very high level itself. But I dealt with them guys, you know, I didn't, I haven't took no damage. I've looked good doing it. I've managed to get the finish twice.

So I think it just goes to show that, you know, I'm capable now of calling for that shot at the top level because I think it's not, you know, I've known it for a long time. But I think everyone else can see now that the way I'm dealing with these guys shows that I need the sort of step up and get that chance to show that I can compete with some of the best in the world. Now, it was your manager and your father, I believe, your coach, who told you last time, when they approached you first when you were 3 and 0, that it probably wasn't a great idea. I think they were right on that one, given how famous you are.

Your stock is just huge at the moment. But what are they saying now? Are they in agreement with you that this is the right time? They've got to be right. Yeah, my coaches are all for it. Obviously, my old man, Carl and Gary, they're all for it. And they obviously, that's what they want. I haven't had chance to speak to Graham yet, also him with intensity,

but I'm sure he feels the same way. You know, we had a small chat after the fight, and then that was the vibes that everyone was giving off. So I'll get a chance to hopefully speak to him now this week, or my father will speak to him. You know, I'll give him a chance to chill out after the show with him. They've had a stress a weekend, I imagine. We know what it's like running the show.

Of course. I'll give him a couple of days, and then I'll be on their case, and then hopefully we'll know a bit more then, obviously, in the coming weeks or whatever. Yeah, I got to ask because we obviously saw the announcement, the October announcement for Cardiff again. And of course, like you fully understand the promoter putting your face on that poster, you know, saying there will be in our total defence there. But is that for you, do you feel like that will be the case only if the UFC doesn't come? Of course, that will be the priority at this stage.

Yeah, yeah, obviously, you know, I love fighting for cage warriors and fighting in Wales. So if the UFC doesn't come, then, you know, I'll always come back to Wales. and fight and fight for K George. So, you know, the feeling of fighting in the, in the, um, the vial arena is second than none. You know, it's something I've never experienced before. You know, that can ever be topped by that, I don't suppose this, this early in my career.

But, you know, that's sort of the backup plan in my head. I've got, you know, if they don't come, then I'll happily go there and defend again or whatever they want me to do. But, you know, hopefully, hopefully I get our call up. And, you know, we can go from there then and see what, you know, maybe get a different fight date or whatever, but obviously if I go and do that, then you won't catch me complaining in a morning,

put it that way. Absolutely, yeah. Now, that's what I figure would be. But again, we come back to the situation, Jack. Here's the issue. Who's going to fight you next for that title? You know, I'm sure there's lots of people

that would put their hands up and say, I'll do it. But, I mean, there's no 100% this guy is the natural contender to Jack's title, right? I don't feel like there is at the moment. Do you? Yeah, that's it. I mean, when I beat Mike,

you know, Scott called for the shot on the night and in old phaenus you know he'd had two big finishes especially beating josh reed as fast as he did you know that's no that's no no easy thing to do um so in all like you said he was the standout guy he was you know well he's got to be next he's got a garry's shot and in and in old fairness he yeah he deserved the right to fight for it but at the minute there's like you said there's no there's plenty you would probably come forward and say that they do it but there's no one that stands out that sort of deserves it in my opinion and to fight for a battle like the cage or i feel like you should have to earn the shot as well.

They shouldn't just be handling it out willy-nilly. So, yeah, at the minute, there's no one that really stands out to me. But, you know, I suppose we'll cross the bridge when we come to it. Is there any, like, I know I'm, you know, tempting a little bit here about trying to be a bit clickbait, if you will, but is there any ideal opponent you'd like, I mean, in the UFC to start off with, like, do you think that much? Like, I mean, who would be the perfect guy for you, or is it just a matter of, I'll fight anyone? Yeah, it's a matter of anyone.

Obviously, just all I need is a date and summit to put in a diary and I'm good to go. It's not that the opponent doesn't matter, obviously, when I get a name, it'll be different. But there's not like I'm gunning for anyone specifically in there right now. I just love to have the shot to compete on that platform. And, you know, let them know a little bit more about me, you know, let them know who I am and what I'm about. And then, obviously, I'll start calling for this and now, then maybe when I'm in there, and I start building a name for myself. Absolutely.

I mean, to go 7 and O for Welsh pros there, I think that, Was it probably an extra stress for you going into that fight there, given how well everything had gone for the Welsh fighters. Did you know that they were on an unbeaten street before you got in there? Yeah, it's a bit of a matter because in December, obviously it was me, Josh and Chris on the card for the gym as the pro team. And Josh and Chris, obviously, unfortunately, both lost in December. So it was sort of all on my shoulders together when on the night, you know, so that the team didn't,

so that we all didn't lose. and then this time round, obviously all the Welsh boys won so I thought I thought I can't be the only Welsh guy to lose especially in the main event, you know, and I'm sort of the poor supply. I thought the best pulling out of the bag. But no, looking back is obviously shows that Welsh MME is on that and it's moving in the right direction.

Obviously, to have, what was it, 7 and 0, I think you said? Seven and O, yeah. To be 7 and 0 on a show like Cage Warriors, especially in our backyard is only going to encourage them to come back and keep putting on these big shows and giving the boys a chance to, you know, get those lights and cameras out and give them chance to get a name out there. I got to ask you, right, final one, Jack, you know, if you go, like, there's no doubt about how much you mean to the Cage Warriors brand in all over it. Like, I mean, everywhere.

But I mean, in Wales, particularly, you are the guy. There's absolutely no doubt of it. But you have been the guy for a long time. Who do you feel will be the next poster boy from Wales? because there's so many. There's so many different people that could be. I honestly don't know.

Yeah, I mean, like you said, there's so many. There's obviously Mason now. I just had a big win on the weekend. So he looked sharp. Wouldn't surprise me to see him, fight for the belt, fight the winner of Grant and Jay Irvert.

So, I mean, that, obviously, if he fights for the belt and he gets the title there, then there's your answer. But there's guys coming through as well. Obviously, Josh Reid's back on a two-fight win streak now. So, I mean, he's going to be back

He's going to be back in the mix now with a big fight, I'd imagine that. Chris Edwards was always a ticket seller, you know, when everybody's on the card. Great to watch. He's going to come and have a tear up, win or lose or draw. The vet, as we like to call him in the gym, the vet comes and put it on the line every time. So he's always a selling point. And then obviously people like Oban coming through as well. We've got Oban Elliott and Jordan Peak.

They look very good as well. Two guys from Wales who have just signed to Cades Warriors through the academy scheme. They've just gone pro, so, you know, don't be, you know, every one of those guys are capable of doing exactly the same, or going on exactly the same path as I've gone down, you know, it's just a matter of it clicking and the timing and stuff like that. And, you know, I, you know, there's, oh, and Aaron Khaled as well, obviously. Yeah, I've got so bad for Aaron Khaled.

I forgot about Cardo because he didn't get a fight on Saturday. But, I mean, if he beat Tom Watson on Saturday, which I think he would have, then, you know, he would have probably been in a mixture of title shot as well. So there's plenty of strengths in depth and wills, and, you know, like you say, about tempting fate, if I do move on and whatever, then, you know, there's no drama about the show still being full of talent.

So what's the plan for the celebration? I mean, are you going to go crazy now for a while? You know, or what's the plan? Or do you just chill out and take it as it comes? What's your kind of a moment of a veranda? I'm not much of a party, boy, mate, to be honest, I'm the reason I've talked so long ago today, I'm down 10 people with my girlfriend for a couple of days,

chilling out, so we was out and about. So I thought it'd be a couple of days now, I'll go and celebrate with my friends on Sunday. We got a night out planned. And then I'll just be back in the gym Monday then, you know, ticking over, getting better. I've got a little bit of time now to improve my technique and get sharper.

And then, you know, all day coming up and stuff like that. But it's just more of a relaxing period, you know, letting myself feel up after a tough 12 weeks and just get ready to go again. Jack, an absolute pleasure. You blew my mind with that performance and you have been doing this for a long time now. So I hope everything comes to you that you're looking for.

And I can't wait to see you fight no matter what promotion it's with next because it's always a pleasure to watch you. Thanks, Peter. I appreciate it. And always appreciate you have me all, mate. It's always a good crack. Now you're five times veteran. Five times.

You're the reigning champion. Someone said last time I just as well beat the course. So if you ever stuck for a course, give me a shout. I'll step in, no problem. Brilliant. I'm going to kick Noel out. now. Yeah, yeah.

Kick into the curve, get the champion. All the best, Jack. Thanks so much, man. Bye, buddy. And great to hear from Jack Shore. What a man. Very interesting to see what's going to happen with him next.

What do you think? Gun to your head, do you think, UFC or Cage Warriors' toilet? UFC. Yeah, I do too. I really do. Especially, like, even what he said there in the interview, I mean, the fact that his father, who was a very well-respected member of the UK and Irish MMA community, Richard Shaw and his other coach,

they're telling him to go. I think it's got to be, it's got to be this time, I think. And look, if he has to go and defend his title again, it's not the worst thing in the world. No, not at all. But he's ready. As I said to him, like, there's no natural guy

that you're looking at and going, I'd like to see him play, Jackshaw. Because he's beating all of them, and I think. They're scumulm alone and Mike Eckin day are savages. Really good fighters, yeah. So, you know, you're just going, what's next? He's had, obviously, you know, opportunities to go before,

so I'm sure that opportunity is going to rise itself in the next couple of months and I think this time he might very well just go, yeah, and now is the time to jump on board because, as we said, that was such a calculated performance and so impressive from such a young man. Indeedy-duty. And we've got the next European series event this weekend in Birmingham. Birmingham. Brent Primus takes on Tim Wilde in the main event,

a huge opportunity for Tim Boyle, the man who has been ploughing his trade for a long time across the UK. and Ireland. You know, it's a big step up, but Tim's been in there with a lot of great fighters. That could be Norman Park. If Norman Park had I taken that fight

a number a while ago. Yeah, well, there you go. They were matched up a long time ago and then just like... Signed for several promotions and ended up with KSW. Yeah, there you know. But I mean, is this like too much of a task

to ask for Tim? I think so. Do you, yeah? Yeah, I think so. I think you look at Brent Primus. He's a guy who's... Primus. Primus. Primus.

Optimus Prime. I call him Prime. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it is Primus, but I think it's primus. He's just impressed me a lot and I think, you know... To win a decision over Chandler, like... Yeah, exactly. You know, that was... I'm sorry, it was a first round. Sorry, that was actually a dodgy. That was actually real dodgy. That was actually real dodgy. Yeah, okay, sorry. Yeah, immediately take that back.

But yeah, to still go out now... You went the distance with him. And do that is, uh, is impressive. And I think, um, we look at, you know, Tim Wiles, you know, he's got back up there. He's a veteran in the scene. I just wonder sometimes whether it's the right move. taking this fight maybe needed a you know a fight or two maybe to settle in

and you know it's a big stage as well sometimes it can be very nerving it's probably the biggest stage of him's career if we're honest about it maybe he will harness his inner Jack or Manson well Jack was just like

listen that was next level shit but yeah no I do fancy primers in this one I think all around probably a little bit too much Pedro Carvalio's room with Bellator has been flowing under the radar he's 2 and oh I think so far

and of course that win over Daniel Crawford I believe kicked it off from him, which was, like a lot of people didn't see that happening. You know, a lot of people thought Daniel Crawford's a blue chip prospect. And he went in there and got a decision. Went out.

I thought he won clearly that fight. It was a split decision in the end, but then he went on about Luke Vitale down at Bellator 2-11. And now Derek Campos is here in a very experienced campaigner. He's fought at 145 and 155. Well, I think it's at the litmus test he needs.

And I think it's a good sort of measure to see where he's at face the guy like Derek Campos, yeah, definitely. And Campos has been around the block, you know? Yeah, he sure has. I think he might have fought, competed for the Fedorway title in the past. He's had about 100 fights in Bellasor.

I mean, he's one of those guys that they just got him from zero and zero and just builds him all the way up. He obviously hasn't, but he's definitely being around the block in Bellator fighting championships anyway, definitely 100%. He's fought Michael Chandler. I wasn't far off in Trees.

Melvin Galardi has a win over. you know Bellator debut is Bellator in 96 in 2013 so yes well he's coming off two losses to Patrickie Pitbull and Sam Cecilia

no slouches by any means but I mean you're dead right if Pedro can do this he's really establishing himself on the international scene isn't he yeah and he's making a move up and for the Bellator

matchmakers and obviously Scott Coker and those guys it's a statement of intense to say you know I'm ready to make this transition up into the upper echion divisions.

Yes, yes. Fabian Edwards against Falco Netto Lopez is also on that main card. I wanted Fabian Edwards,

a big fight on nearly the main event of this card. Like, I feel like he is there or thereabouts at this time. Obviously,

the opponent didn't present themselves. He says he wants the winner of Van Stenis and Mike Shipman, which is coming up in June,

I believe. So that's going to be very interesting. I do expect Fabian to get the job done. Yeah, I think you would. A test of experience

again. Yeah, but is it, maybe should it have been a little bit more of a jump this time? Well, I feel like when we talked to Fabian after this fight, well, just ahead of when this fight was announced, it was the week of Leon Edwards. Yeah. And he kind of said, look, there's no one stabbing up to fight me and I need to fight. Yeah, I think that could be a problem with him, man. But if you look at the opponent level, like, we know Lee Chadwick.

We know the power that guy possesses. He's also on the card, yeah? We know the dangerously possession. For Fabian to do what he did to him sort of says to me that, you know, maybe... Let's step it up a bit. Step it up a little bit. But yeah, you know, if that's fair enough, you can't. Give him Gaygard.

I'll tell you what, let's not reel that out in the next year. Yeah, yeah, maybe not. Raymond Daniels, who will be talking to later on, takes on Wilcar Barros, a short-notice replacement upon him. But, you know, Raymond is 0-1 from 2008. Like, there's no reason where he should be going in with a... Kickboxing legend. Yeah, and Wilker is also a decorated kickboxer.

So, I mean, we might not see this hit the ground, but, I mean, I'm sure that it will be a... something to watch for the Bellator Birmingham crowd. Our very own, Brian Moore takes on Sun Libin. I have a video coming out with Brian during the week this week.

It's not watching its crap. Huge fight for Brian. It's not in focus. Huge fight for Brian at 135. You know, do you feel like this is a turning point in his career in a way because of the 135? Like, I mean, oh, he's watching him Sparrow, man.

He is a big guy. We've said this for years, Pizzi. Yeah. About how good his hands were. And I think we saw that in the last fight in fairness until that second round where he just got, you know, he's had a problem with those hands broke both hands in that round.

He's boxing so crisp, so clean, so good in and out, so fast as well. And I remember, I think it was, when was it, we were down watching when Belta was come to Dublin, and myself and yourself were just going, man, look at Brian in here, man. He's probably the best looking boxer in SBG. Yeah, he's really, really technical, yeah, yeah, yes.

And, you know, it is a turning point down now. I know it was very unfortunate the fight against Noat when he broke the two hands. He was definitely on top of that fight. until that happened. Obviously a massive, massive hinder in block, you know, breaking both your hands. Breaking them very badly as well.

We saw Brian in surgery and his social media. But, you know, the promotion aren't going to care about whether he's breaking his hands or not. They're going to go, oh yeah, he looked good. He still lost the fight. That's the bottom line for Brian. Brian needs to go in here and make a statement of intent at 45. And I think he's a type of guy

that has really sort of channeled his focus since he's become a full-time fighter in mixed martial arts. People don't understand that about Brian as well, and I think we need to mention that. It was only his last two or three fights that he's actually been training mixed martial arts full-time. A young family, his own business, I mean, Jesus. It's a lot.

But I think Brian now, with the mindset, I think he's become a lot, lot stronger over the last two or three fights, and I think he feels as though it's all coming together now, and I think we've seen that. It's just if he can just keep those injuries out of it. And, you know, I do hope it works out for Brian, because he's a fantastic talent.

We've got a tough champion against a former, Cage Warriors title contender with Saul Rogers V. Aiden Lee I think this is a very big fight of 55

you know Rogers as a guy that we've been wanting to see compete in the Do you think it's a bit too soon for Adenly

to make the jump did you I know I know it's obviously Bellator and you know maybe is this a 55 or 45?

45 I'd assume was 45 but it says 55 here my topology but Saul.

Saul was a better way, yeah. Yeah. Last fight was 155 for Saul. So maybe it is. Maybe Lee stepping up. Interesting one. I think it is a little bit, you know, Saul, we know

Saul, he's a guy who's obviously got upset very badly at ACB against Oriole Peretta, I think the Romanian. You know, the failed. Contract, obviously, the UFC, all that happened there. was very disappointing for Saul. Saul's a lovely guy.

I had a lot of ups and downs in his career, and I think it's to be very interesting now that he has this opportunity with Beltor fighting championships to see if he can jump back in there and really make a go for it. Because I think it's one of those cases now with Saul. It's now or never. And I think really he needs to go in there

and take Aiden Lee out of it. But that's, you know, Aiden Lee's a pretty bloody good fighter. We've seen how good he was. I was very shocked at what Dean Truman could do to him, you know? Yeah. So I would favor Saul, I think you got it.

But what a scalable would be for Aiden at this time in his life. Oh, yeah. I think Aiden might have jumped the gun a little bit, signing for Ballator, but, you know, obviously. Well, especially with the Fedaway title now for grabs. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. It does. You know, it's about these different directions guys want to go on their career.

And, you know, it's up to that. Maybe the money was good, so somebody couldn't turn down, you know. Yeah. We're just taking a look further down the car. Jimmy Wall had a look to make a 2-0 of Bellator. He takes on Georgio Petrini. James Mulheron at 205 against Lee Chadwick who was moving up to 205 two veterans there man two absolute savages of the UK seeing taking on each other

that should be a good one and Mulheron's debut at 205 for Bellator didn't go his plan but um you know I think he has plenty left in the tag especially when you see the way the legs of KSW heavyweight champion Phil de Freese talks about him you know Phil de Frees wasn't comfortable calling himself the best best heavyweight in England until Mulheron went down to 205 so that will say something for it um Dominic Wooding against David Calso, I expect to, like, you know, I think... It's a total mismatch in my opinion. Yeah, you know, two and four Calce against five and two Wooding, and Wooding is taken on,

as I mean, there's lost. Wooding's, like, five and two, like, his two losses, it's a very deceptive record. Yeah, I mean, it's, I think he was, like, O, taking on Andy Young, you know, that's crazy. He's a guy... I made one mistake and lost for it. He's one of those guys where you go... He's unreal. He sort of just rewind back a little bit.

Maybe they should slow a guy down. He's unbelievable. Yeah, he's unbelievable. They should need to, like, slow him down. He's a guy maybe. that does jump into fights too quickly. We have to talk to him soon. I don't know how we have to talk to him.

He's one of my faves. He is brilliant. He's a fantastic fire to watch. Craig Turner v. Ashley Reese. Everybody's very excited about Ashley Reese. Kane Mousa is making his debut. Another great personality, an entrepreneur, a man who has turned his life around since an early prison sentence.

He takes on Matthew Piscorce. Yeah. Daniel Castle v. John Nichols. Mohamed Yahya against Gavin Hughes. We have Yanik Bahadi against Adis Dadovich Joseph Whelan versus Simon Ridgway Kieran Lister v. Constantine Nusareev.

Yeah, Nusareev. Yeah, that's how you've been saying that. Sorry, man. And then we have Echigbo versus Percival and Wanliss versus Sam Slater. SBGs. I think Sam is coming off a loss. Am I right there?

You came off a loss in Dublin. Yeah, so a lot of... Very highly talked up young lad, Sam Slater before that last devil a day. So probably one to watch there see if you can bounce back.

I think he came from a kickboxing background and you know he was very very a lot of the SPG guys were singing his praises so I mean you know you can expect to hicc up early in your career when you're changing over from the sport but 19 fights again man that's a long night's work for me man

it's too much yeah it's a lot of promises made the fighters there though so I guess you have to see it on it yeah that is no listen listen in fairness we did at least these guys are getting paid and they're actually getting active now,

so that's definitely a benefit for me. Indeed. Sorry, moving on to the UFC card, of course. All right, and a how boy. Yeah. How are you by you?

That's a big fight at 155 at the top of that card, man. Yeah. It is. And, you know, what, why do you sort of put this? Cowboy, you know,

a little bit of a resurgence as of late, you know, had that little flirting period, about 170 pounds had a kid seems to be very much the case went back down to 155 pounds and now

he thinks he's going to win the title again I just don't see it I just I really don't see it why Cowboy you know I did think Alec Hernandez would beat him I think Alex's problem

in that fight was maybe a little bit of youthful exuberance in the fight was very reckless very raw surprisingly compared to his other fight before that when he finished who did he finish in his UFC debut? It was Benial Darius, I believe it was,

in such spectacular fashion. And I just think a guy like Al-Aikinta is too clever. He's been around the block. We've seen him fight Habib. He's a guy that's going to, you know, he's not going to go out there and force the issue. I thought we saw a very patient Al-Aikinta against Habib. Obviously, you know, bounce back with that win against Kevin Lee.

you know, a little bit of an argument there for me whether he won that fighter or not I think that was up for debate as well from quite a lot of people

Oh, then I thought I'll won it. Yeah, yeah, listen, Grant, I'm not going to sit here and fucking moan

about it for two hours but, but, I think but the people watch the moment this is a fucking nightmare for a cowboy

this fight. I think Ally Kinta is just the last two fights especially he's learned a world in those two fights. And his hands are fantastic.

And his hands have got better and better and better. And I think, you know, he's going to push the pace here in Cowboy, you know, level change, if possible as well. He's very, very good, underrated ground game,

Alley Kinta, but I think he's going to have enough here in the feed to really get inside Cowboy in trouble him. Derek Brunson v. Elias Teodoro isn't setting my heart a flutter. No. I don't like any of Teodora's fights, to be honest, I'm not going to lie.

I think he's often quite laboured in many of his approaches and things he does. He doesn't stand out in one particular area. like a big step up for him. It does, but he's sort of been floating around for a long, long time where he hasn't really probably made a step up to a substantial level

to Derek Brunson. And I, you know, I worry for Brunson as well. A guy who's lost four of his last six fights coming off that to loss to Jacaray and Adisania. Good, a lot of finishes in there as well. Knockouts. You wonder if Theodore

is going to grind him out here now and do that sort of of game plan, which he has implemented quite frequently, but then on the other hat, Bronson has incredibly good boxing. So it is an interesting fight, but yeah, it's not, it's not getting my heart racing pizza. No, it really isn't. Swanson and Burgos, are you excited for that one?

Yeah, that's, you know, Cobal was in really good fights, and I think... Three on her own, yeah, and I remember watching Burgess and Qatar at UFC 223. That was a great fun. In Brooklyn, yeah, so listen, it's a, it's a tough fight. It's a one that sort of keeps Cub in the... there there rates sort of relevant

still and I think the winner that as we said you know at that way class

there's really some killers row and I think if Burgos gets a win there he's into that he's into that

because Calvin Qatar is a stove man as well like Kevin he is yeah he is a lot so

what a tough debut that was for Chris fish gold yeah Jesus Christ fishy

fishy fish SBG's Brad Gtona takes on Mirab Devilisvili on the main

card at 135 I expect Brad to get the job done there to be yeah Mirab

Dillavision really Coming off Who did I say he beat there And his last one He's going off a win Against Oh Jesus I was just looking at a two minutes

My brain is fried It's too late Tyrion Ware That's right That was in Russia And I was telling everyone Not remember Good money

The clever money's on Tyrionware There That's right He got absolutely Grappled Just on the ground For three rounds there Sorry about that last

Now Brad's looked Brad's looked decent And I would expect him To get the win And he of course was helping Brian Moore. The two of those boys would have been working together.

Prine themselves for the same weekend. Iron sharp as iron and I saw Nicolai in there with them as well. Brad sort of reminds me of the water boy. Watch. Bobby Bouchébigh.

But he's good. Like he's been impressed. So we have Mirab who is actually from Georgia, which is on an intersection between Ural Asia and Eastern Europe, so we'll take him. But Brad's kind of got his foot

in the old European waters as well with SPG. But we have Sergei Spivak, who takes on is Walt Harris. He's making his debut. He's a WWFC champion. That's just... WWF is like, what? That's the same promotion that Orleans Blaine O'Driscoll won a title.

That's right, yeah. Kiev. Yeah, so that's it. Walt Harris, like, straight in there. No kissing. I think we should go, I think we should actually go to Kiev for a fight sometime. You know what? Get a bit of chicken, Kiev. You know how much a point is in Kiev?

Go. 70 cent on draft. 70 cent, Peter. Jesus. And 90 cent, apparently, for a bag of cans. Wow Imagine that We get arrested

Oh yeah That's the given It would be a problem We just bribed them Also in the European interest In the prelims We have Namar's bodyguard Nardin Talib

Where was he when he was throwing Diggs at the weekend Against Coil Probolic Of Canada So that's really all of our European interest there

Is he not Canadian now Or what's the crack? No he's French He's not made his mind up No I'm taking him Any other fights there you're really looking forward to? Macy Chalston looking forward to seeing her back in there. That's a tough fight against...

Morose. Yeah, cheesecake. So that's an interesting fight. You would, from what I've seen from Macy, really improved in our last outing, obviously, from winning the ultimate fighter. It looked really, really good against Gina Manzani. Absolutely, you know, sparked poor Gina out badly in that one.

Change the weight class as well. This is a potential contender. we have here so I'm expecting her to to take this one with ease we'll see yeah amen Zahabi return to action as well he takes on Vince Morales uh brother of Faraz Zahabi to celebrate a coach a try star head coach um arjun bullire as well on the card against juan adams the first man to wear a turban to the the octagon as we know um yeah there's a very few decent fights there i'm not jumping up and down about it for something right right i'm not really i know but i'll tell I look the main event a lot.

The main is a class fight, right? Right. But that, I think, fight does have significant permutations. Oh, yeah, at the very top. Oh, yeah, yeah, it does. You know, you have a potential opponent there for Connor McGregor or Tony Ferguson. Yes. And I think that's the way, you know, if Dustin does get this fight, which you listen,

I won't believe Dustin's getting that fight for these two weeks. It's in the octagon. You've two opponents there waiting for something to happen. And I think, you know, The way the division is panning out, and it's been such a shame the division over the last number of years. We haven't seen so many the fights we've all wanted and dreamed about seeing, which has been such a shame that now I think is really the time for this to happen,

or it's shit I get off the pot really for a lot of these guys. Yeah, no, I think you're right, and you're right with the permutations, and I mean, that makes a lot of sense. And I'm sure the guys know themselves that they're going in there to claim a spot against one of these guys, because 154 is all over the place. It's not. it needs to sort of the literally it's like the top

of the division was in the whole for six years like literally with the fights that we could have seen that we haven't seen it's like crying fucking shame and you're right in the way that it kind of feels like it's going to happen again a few times it was of course it was like you know we look at you know Dustin and Diaz last year yeah no absolutely

fell out so right well to look forward to the weekend we spoke to one of the greatest kickboxes of all time Mr Raymond Daniels we got some time with him on his birthday as well so I mean I feel extra bad for that, but yeah, we'll see. It's about 10 minutes to wrap this baby up. MMAFighting.com, and I am joined by the greatest of all time,

one of the greatest kickboxers ever, and a man who will make his Bellator MMA debut this weekend, Mr. Raymond Daniels. Raymond, how are you? I'm doing great, man. I can't complain, brother. It's actually my birthday and Fight Week. It's a birthday of Fight Week.

So, you know, I'm out here chilling with some of great friends and my fiancée. So blessed, blessed. Congratulations. I didn't realize it was your birthday. Oh, yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. It happened to be my birthday. I didn't really get to celebrate like I would normally do,

but I figured I might as well celebrate it this Saturday. Yeah. In a big way. Yes. And we're all looking very much to see that. I mean, the first time I spoke to you, Raymond, I believe it was when you were in training camp with Rory MacDonald ahead of the Wonderboy fight.

And at that time, you told me, you know, you had already signed for Bellator kickboxing, but you said at the time, you know, if the right opportunity presents itself, you might like to test yourself in MMA again. But could you explain to us how this came together? You know, it kind of came together as like my evolution, to my fighting me growing as a fighter and as a person. You know, I don't like to look forward and to a film

until I accomplish what my goal is until I finish and follow through what I had plans on accomplishing. And when I spoke to you then, I wasn't the kickboxing champion at the time. And then so now I've accomplished that, I've defended my title, and now the opportunities presented itself for me to be able to go and challenge myself and kind of correct a past error that went wrong, so to speak, in life, with my last MMA event when I first fought and strike force all those that decade or so ago.

So, you know, I'm looking forward to the opportunity to getting back in there and mixing it up. And now that I've accomplished and won that Belator kickboxing title, you know, it's time for me to look towards the in the May one now. Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, how different does this feel compared to your MMA debut, I believe it was in 2008? How different do you feel in terms of your all-round game compared to them? Oh, man. I mean, I was a young.

I was a young. I was 27, which is older, but you're still young. in life. So I saw a total different experience, a total different mindset as far as, you know, when you're a little bit older, you're able to reflect on life and understand what you did and didn't do in order to prepare yourself correctly. And when I did that all those years ago, I didn't prepare myself honestly at all. I was a young fighter. I was an undefeated kickboxer. And I'm like, oh, I'm knocking everyone out that I fight. I'm knocking out within second. I was just going this M&A ring and knock this person out too. You know, that was a lot.

That was my mindset as a young man. And I think sometimes when you're undefeated, you know, if you don't have anybody to steer you or guide you in the correct direction, it can be one of the, it can be what happened to me. You know what I mean? And so I think that was, honestly, a blessing in disguise, even though I didn't recognize it at the time. So now I've actually prepared myself with the wrestling.

I've actually prepared myself with the MMA. And I feel that I've even, at this time, from where I was, then have matured so much as a stand-up fighter. So I'm really excited to go out there. I've actually been looking forward to this for quite some time. And now the time has actually come for me to, I guess, allow me to reintroduce myself. Yes, absolutely.

And I mean, how... The MMA world, really. Yes, yes. And how did you prepare for this? I mean, were you using a lot of different facilities, a lot of different gyms, different training partners? How did you go about it? Yeah, I've got a chance to use a whole bunch of different training partners.

I'm very fortunate, less, to have had the success that I've had in my stand-up fighting. So I've gotten an opportunity to meet and link up with people as, like, GSP, Roy McDonnell, I got stage, I got Kit Dale, I got Joe Murphy, my classic team with Joe Murphy and Tyler, got my boxing coach Ramon and Spada. and so I've had a whole bunch of different people that have come through for me. You know, I've come through for a lot of them, you know, during their times of need or whatever the case is. And so they've all been more than happy to come and help me out and give back to me. So it's been actually a great experience. And I think the reason why I never really wanted to do it before is because I didn't really enjoy the wrestling

and the grappling. I wasn't enjoying that side of it. That's why I always stayed in my lane with kickboxing. But I think as I've gotten older, I've matured a little bit differently. And now I'm starting to enjoy that grind of that wrestling and of that, that you get to. So I've gotten to training with some amazing people that have helped me, that it's given me the skills that I need to take on this level. And then I'm looking forward to getting more skills in order to, you know, take on that next level.

So, you know what I mean? You got to crawl before you walk. and that's also with experience like in life. You know, when I first fought that first MMA fight, I fought somebody had like 16 MNA fights on my first debut of the MMA fight. That is being young and not understanding that you've got to crawl before you walk. You've got to walk before you run and you've got to run before you can fly. So, so yeah, so I've, like I said, I've trained with some great people for this camp.

And I'm looking forward to going out and being able to use it and implement the skills that they've blessed me with. How comfortable do you feel with grappling now? I mean, it's such a different thing to striking, right? It's a completely different skill set. How comfortable do you feel now with that? Oh, man. I don't think that anybody can ever feel comfortable, to be honest, with grappling from what I've understood about grappling.

What I've learned about grappling, there is no comfort of them. I've had an opportunity to train with, like I said, I train with Kit Dale, I'll train with Ryan Hall, I'll train with Sean Strickland. Brilliant training partners. It is so crazy because, Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, those are some of my training partners.

It's like the crazy thing about it is everybody has like with kickboxing or boxing, you know, everybody has a certain tool set that they can come at you with. And I understand this tool set, front, back, inside out, up, down, left, right. It doesn't matter what direction you come or throw it at me. We're on our feet and I understand it. With the whole like grappling aspect of it, It's such a different, different sport because everyone has that different, they can translate in a different way.

When you look at you just, if you just look on YouTube or on Instagram, everybody's coming out with brand new technique, brand new guard, brand new defenses, brand new ways to submit you. So, you know, I think it's such a crazy game. So I don't think there's ever and will ever be a necessary, I would say, a comfort level that I would have there. I'm comfortable being uncomfortable. It's, I guess, how I kind of look at it and how I'm taking the Jiu-Jitsu.

I've been working more online. I would say anti-Jiu-Git-Soo. Because I think there's so many ways to, you know what I mean? There's so many ways to skin and cat with Jiu-Jitsu. It's just like it's ridiculous to how many different ways and tools that people have. I think it's amazing. And that's why I said now I'm able to enjoy and understand the beauty of that end of wrestling as well. And just a grind in wrestling of what it takes.

in order to continuously push at that pace. And I know you had an opponent change. You take on Wilker Barros now, and I believe your first opponent was John Durand. Does that change anything for you, or was this more of a kind of, you were kind of more focusing on yourself ahead of this one? Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm focusing on me more than an opponent. The opponent has two hands, two feet. You know, so I usually don't worry about my opponent.

A lot of my coaches to do that. I mean, the main things that did change for me is Durant was a softball like myself. So I was excited because I actually have a lot of experience fighting in South Falls, but I haven't had an opportunity in any of my full contact fights to actually fight at South Paul. So I was excited to be able to unleash my South Paul tool set, so to speak. You know, and then it changed to Burroughs. And, you know, now it's just an adjustment he's an orthodox fighter. So now my skill set changes.

So my fight is based sometimes off of what stands my opponents. And a lot of times me, I can switch my stances back and forth. But I'm really focusing on myself more than my opponent because there's a big learning curve for me with wrestling and with the jikis. You know, so I've been really focusing on developing those skill sets. So therefore, I mean, I never overlook an opponent, but I plan on rising. to the top. So, you know, it's one fight at a time. This is the first step towards my ultimate goal of being the greatest of all time, God over all things, which I always like to call myself the goat. So this is just that one step towards that.

I have to say, like, I'm very excited about this. I've been watching your kickboxing fights for a long, long time, and I think you're one of the most spectacular strikers, one of the most spectacular showmen in all of combat sports. I mean, do you feel like, you must feel like you're bringing something new to Bellator here. It's MMA portion with this very unique story you have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a high-risk, high-reward type of guy when I fight. You know, not a lot of people are willing to go out and do in risk

by doing the techniques that I do when I fight. And I think that the reason that is is just they don't take the time to practice and understand those techniques. I've done it for over three decades now. You know, so a lot of the stuff that I do is kind of like second nature to me. It's kind of like throwing a jab. You know, it's very, very basic. But, yeah, I'm really excited because I know that, you know,

the memory world hasn't really kind of seen necessarily my style of fighting before with the flash, with the showmanship. You know, I know there's fighters out there that fight similar to my style. You know what I mean? As far as like Mike Page or a Wonderboy or Pettist or even Connor, you know what I mean? But I don't think, and I don't take anything away from any of those guys because I'm a huge fan of all of them. But I have a different style and skills that feed me and all of them than all of they do. So I'm excited to see if I can go out and do what I do in kickboxing and implement that into the M&A world on the high.

level, you know. So, yeah, it's a really exciting time for me. I'm going to be honest. I've prepared for this fight harder than not prepared for any of my fights ever in the past. I guess your next fight is always your most important fight. But, yeah, I've prepared for this one in a way that has never, I've never done before. So I'm excited to go out and reach the fruits of my labor. Absolutely. And I mean, do you see this as a bit more of an experiment is this is this a chance for you to test yourself in m m m and you know be fully invest in that or do you feel like you're going to defend your your bellator kickboxing title as well um or how do you see it like what what's your plan here or is it all depending on what happens on

siderday oh that's that oh no that's an awesome question i mean i'm going to say truth i mean i could have brought off into the sunset with my bellator kickboxing title and uh not risked anything i'm going into the MMA world because I feel when it comes to stand up fighting, there's not a lot of people that can actually deal with what it is that I do. You know, they have to more try to figure out me than me figure out them just because that's my forte. But for me, it's about stepping outside my comfort zone. It's about continuing to challenge myself. And I, at the end of the day, you don't want to have any regrets in life. So I'm doing it because I want to do it, because I enjoy it because I want to challenge myself because it makes me uncomfortable.

And I like to be comfortable being uncomfortable, if that makes any sense. But no, I don't look forward to as far as leaving the kickboxing behind. I look forward to still maintaining my kickboxing world title and rising to the top and becoming what I like to call the champ champ. My version of the champ champ is the kickboxing champ and the MMA chance. and I think it would be nice to have belts from multiple sports on my shoulders. And then I figure after I win the M&A belt and I have the kickboxing up, I'll just call out whoever the boxing champ is and go for the hat trick.

It's a champ, champ, champ. Yes, yes. I love it. And I can't wait to see it, Raymond. And thank you so much for joining us today, especially on your birthday of all days. I mean, wow, they're really putting some rigorous press for it for you. Yeah, yeah, no problem at all, man It's my pleasure

You know, I'm just kind of relaxed Max and relaxing And the accumulation of my birthday Is actually going to be This weekend As I finish this fight In a spectacularly fashion So that's going to be me blowing out my candles

Okay, Raymond Thank you so much for joining us I look forward to the fight All the best And thank you very much to Raymond Daniels Great to speak to him again a long time's I spoke to Raymond. Legend.

He didn't remember me, let's be honest. Who was? Yeah. I'm not very memorable. But, yeah. The long-out episode this week, this is the record. Is this the first time

we've had four interviews on the show? Yeah. This is the launch our Apple and Spotify. Too many. You're born as fuck out of our listeners. That's just you, mate. They'll unsubscribe now. Ah, here, we can't, but you need to be nice

and put in nice comments and subscribe and all that nice stuff. That's it. Yeah, you have to subscribe, share, read, after all your belly aching. Like all the people getting on to us. We've got it now. They have to share the fuckers. Comment on it.

Every person who wanted it on iTunes has to comment, has to subscribe, has to like. Or you're getting a virtual speed of. Give these two guys millions and millions of euro. All that stuff. All that shit. You know what I mean? We're two gods here for God's saying. Free drinks when we go out.

All that shit. 100%. I'm thirsty. I'm very thirsty tonight. I feel angry. I swear to God. Well, look, these things happen, Noel. So United

have definitely lost fourth place now Is that fair enough to say? Yeah, no, it's very disappointing, very depressing Yeah, no, I think it is Unless, top four has been mental the last few weeks

But I think that was the final nail, the final push. I think even if they win the two now, still, I think Chelsea's you're going to do enough to get that fourth spot. So, no, next year. That's tough. You're up to date with Game of Thrones.

You weren't last week. I'm not loving it. No. You're one of the only people have heard saying that. loving it. I think it's just not too long outdated, too many fight scenes, like, oh, just same old rubbish. Jesus. Game of shrowns. Game of moans with you talking about it. It is indeed. But are you going to watch the fights this weekend? Are you going to have to catch up with them again? I'm working again Saturday night. Oh, lovely. I'll get the main event in anyway. And then, yeah, I'll get the main event in anyway. Yeah, that's Sunday night, sorry. Oh, yeah, that's true. No, I'll get to watch all them. Well, there you are now. Like a can. though.

You'll have to be fresh then for the next day when we're recording this. But other than that, all good. I was at a wedding there last weekend. Oh, I forgot about your wedding. How was your wedding? Yeah, it was really good. It was actually brilliant. We met Katrin Ansber.

She's getting married, went to college where she's a great girl, a legend. And she was a wedding. The marriage hasn't changed her at all. She was on a mad one. I went to bed early because I had a five-hour drive home the next day. But the M.M.A. fighting team got. me to call into a meeting at just the right time when I was, um, had a skinful in me now. Lovely.

And I started telling all types of stories and then eventually, thank God, my signal went somehow and I got crashed out. We've all, should we've all, we've all, uh, attended work meetings. Yeah. Or being on national airwave sauce. Yeah. We've definitely done that. Yeah.

But, uh, these things happened, but it was a great time. Um, I got an end of my dad's car because I didn't trust the lion's car going down there. It feels amazing. Where is it on? Mayo. All right, lovely. My old man was in their wedding on Mayo as well. Was he?

Yeah, it wasn't at that. Westport? No. Just not. No. Could have given me a shout when you would have went for a few points. No, no. No.

I had a call. I had a few on Friday night. That was it now. Nothing spectacularly mad. I saw John Elliott slapped him in the face on Instagram. I slapped him in the face. I saw that. There was slaps.

I bought a new camera. Look how exciting our lives are. Yeah. That's pretty much it. trying to better myself by buying a fucking camera. That's all for news. Then you instantly regret it after. They could have been 1,200 points

instead of 1,200 fucking pounds. So, oh, I sure, listen, it's done now. Sure, what can he fucking do? But I'll get an iPhone as well tomorrow, so I'd an upgrade tube, which was a nice... I think he's having to thrown himself from a bus, by the same thing's here. I got a claim off, Dougal Bus.

I got a... I checked my phone last night, my three online and whoever my cell phone your cell phone provider my cell phone provider and I was doing

upgrades two years ago since I left sure it is so I remember that I was out up north shooting video for a GAA player and we stopped off

in the garage right and we stopped off to get food so Shane the fellas went into the petrol station it was the night remember the snowstorms we had here last January oh yeah Jesus

and I had the phone like four or five weeks whatever and I pulled the phone. I was looking for an SD card. So I sort of opened the door of the car and I put the phone on top of the car. I was like, fuck, well, fuck, where's it? Where's it? End up fine. I got, oh,

Grant. Got back in the car. Shane jumps in. We drive off down the motorway. I hear. Phone dropped off the top of the roof. I left on the top of the roof on the motorway. Oh, my God. Yeah, I couldn't even see. It was pitch up dark. Look back about a half an hour and I just got the phone about 10 months. So

I had another iPhone, crappy 5S line around. So I'm getting a 7. For free, it's grand. There you go. You know, look. I see. It's always darkest before the dawn, as I say, I know. It's been a long fucking dawn. It's been a long day.

So we'll leave you there. We did lots of work for us this week. We got it on Blatin Spotify. We got it on Bleating, iTunes. Start subscribing and saying those things about us. And if we aren't, we're going to be very angry next week. I mean, if they aren't, if they aren't there. Yeah, look.

Virtual headbutts. All right. There's one. That's just the taste. I'll give you one. out of it. All right, see that? Loafed from every angle.

I'll talk to you later. All the best. Love you.