MMA Fighting - Heck of a Morning | Reaction To Zabit Retiring, Sterling vs. Dillashaw Targeted Title Fight, Possibility of McGregor vs. Chandler

Episode Date: June 16, 2022

Zabit Magomedsharipov has officially notified the UFC he is retiring from the sport of MMA. Will he go down as the biggest "what if" in the history of the promotion? That question is discussed on a brand new edition of Heck of a Morning with MMA Fighting's Mike Heck. In addition, listeners submit questions about the targeted bantamweight title fight between Aljamain Sterling and T.J. Dillashaw and if it was the right fight to make, what that bout does for the direction of the potentially returning Henry Cejudo, the rumored fight between Jose Aldo and Merab Dvalishvili, the chances the UFC books Conor McGregor vs. Michael Chandler for McGregor's return fight, the depth of Saturday's UFC Austin card, and much more. You can listen live to Heck of a Morning Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays at 10 a.m. ET on the MMA Fighting Twitter Spaces. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We are at a new start time. I think this is the middle of the second week we'll be doing this. And a lot of you like it. Some people are still kind of mad at me. We moved it from the 8 a.m. Eastern start time. people are claiming that I'm just sleeping in, which is just not true. I know they're joking around, but this is what we got to do, people. You got to give the people what they want.

We can't please absolutely everybody. If I could, I would. It's just not possible. But thank you for joining us. We were coming off just a crazy episode this past Tuesday. I was actually, I can handle a lot. I don't get overwhelmed easy. I was a little bit overwhelmed.

on Tuesday. We had the most amount of callers that we've ever had on the show. It was just nonstop. It was a little crazy because you have to find the fine line of not getting yelled at for going too long and making sure everybody gets a chance to speak. It's a little daunting at times. But I think the show after we added the Adrian Yana's interview to the podcast was over two hours. So you guys are absolute maniacs and we appreciate that very much. Of course, another very busy week. We were on a very busy stretch in the world of mixed martial arts with the event on Saturday, PFL's back,

Bellator's got a card next week, UFC's got a card next week, and then off to Vegas for International Fight Week. That should be just a crazy fight week in itself. So we have a lot to look forward to right now, and I have a lot to look forward to with all of you, because I'm ready to take your calls, I'm ready to get into this thing,

I'm fired up, I exercised. I am just absolutely hammering a giant black ice coffee from Dunkin' Donuts. And I am ready to go. We got softball playoffs. We got BTL today. I mean, good Lord, it's going to be a day in the first band to kick things off. Live from Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

I just want to say this name, so he was definitely going first. Let us say hello to mayonnaise face. McFlanigan, excellent name. What up, Mike? Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Good deal. I'm not mad at you, but your 9 a.m. start time is a 9 a.m. kickoff work meeting, so I haven't been able to join, but I'm skipping it today. So I had to do it.

My man. My man. I'll keep it quick. I have a weird question. For Adasanya to have his double champ status, can you rank his chances against? against Yuri, Glover, Anthony Smith, and Uncleayev. That's my question. Thank you.

Ooh. Thank you. Let's see. So I was saying, I don't know if I said it Tuesday, or I said it on the post-fight show, or I said it on to the next one. I feel like the UFC is already looking ahead with this URI situation, because at some point, if the UFC can get this done, if Yuri and Adasanya

can just run off a few title defenses it would not stun me at all to think that the UFC is already planting little seeds to do a fight between Brashka and Adisadya because that would just be insane. The stand-up chess matchery of it all and just the chaos that Yuri produces with the technical prowess of an Israel Adasania

that just be a crazy fight. That probably be I think all those matches, matchups in a lot of ways, are pretty tough stylistically for Adasania. Anthony Smith, I think he would do okay against. I would probably favor him in that fight. Ankleith, I probably would not.

But maybe not. I mean, maybe I'm wrong. But that just seems like a fight that wouldn't be all that exciting anyways. Yuri, I'd favor Yuri, but it'd be a crazy fight. Glover.

I'd probably favor Otisanya to win that fight. I'm very high on Glover. Of course, I'm trying to call me in the middle of this thing. Don't you know it's past 10 a.m.? God, stop trying to call me. I don't want what you're selling, bro. But anyways, yeah, I think he'd be favored against Anthony Smith. Glover, I think it'd be close.

Yuri, he'd be the dog. Ankelyif, he'd be a bigger dog. So I don't know. But I think Adasanya, Uri would be a really interesting fight. I think it would be a box office fight, if we're being honest, for the UFC. And if the UFC is going to entertain that idea of giving Izzy another shot of the light heavyweight title, you'd have to imagine that Yuri would be the front runner to, you know, match him up with, if they can do it. But listen, Adasania's got stuff to do at 185.

He's got to fight Jared Kennedy Air. That is a tough fight. I know a lot of people that I've seen on Twitter just like, I'm going to run him over. I think it's a tough matchup. This might be one of the tougher title defenses he's had. Jared's looked real good, and Jared gets better as the fight goes.

So that's a really interesting matchup. And then he's got the winner of Sean Strickland versus Alex Pajeda. I have a feeling that even if Pajara loses to Strickland, but then wins his next fight against somebody in the top 10, Pahada would still get the title shot. Anyway, so he's got those two guys, some others as well. You got the Andre Monezes of the world on the way up.

So I think he's got some work to do O85, but if the UFC were hoping for the right fight to do a 205 for Israel, if they're going to try to get him that second title or at least give him the opportunity to do so, I would have to think here he's the guy they would go with first. But we'll see. James Foster. What's up, buddy? Good morning, Mike. How are you?

Good. I saw some fight news yesterday. Maybe you guys reported on it. I just missed it, but I saw that Aldo and Marab were confirmed for the pay-per-view with Usman and Edwards. I mean, if that is true, I mean, that is a banger of a fight. I literally saw that yesterday and just held my hands up like someone just got knocked out. I would love to see that. And also, I had a question about one of my favorite fires of Corey Sandhap. I don't know if you have any news that U.S.C. is trying to book him with somebody. I was kind of looking at the rankings yesterday, the only rankings that matter,

MMAfighting.com, the best website in the world. And I think as Sanhagan and Song Yudong would make a lot of sense, and it would just be a fun, fun fight. And I just want to thank you, Mike, for what you do here, for giving all this crazy MMA fans a point. platform to come on here and just have a great conversations with you. So thank you all that you do and go Celtics and have a heck of a morning. Wow. That might be that might be my favorite call of all time. I mean, just how nice is that? Amazing stuff. Yeah. So from what I understand on the

Aldo Marab situation, the fight is being discussed. And as Ariel reported, it's not a done deal. It's the direction everybody seems to want to go, but to say that the fight is done and that it's definitely happening on August 20th would be very premature, as the initial report stated. It is being discussed. It is not done. I don't know. Like, obviously, Marab is going to be all over this. But for Aldo, like, it's a cool fight. Like, from a stylistic perspective, it's really interesting, and it's a fight that Marab absolutely deserves. But for Joseo, man, you drew the short straw, man. You could have fought Cruz, you could have fought other guys like that,

but then you get Dron Marab potentially. Boy, that's tough. He could have been fighting for the title. He could have been fighting for the title. He had a stellar argument to just fight for the belt, or just fight T.J. for a straight up number one contender fight. Maybe he fights a hoodo.

I mean, there's all these other interesting options here for Aldo. But I give Aldo credit. If he takes this fight and the pen goes to paper and this is the one they put together, Marab deserves it good on him. And Aldo is a damn G for taking that fight when he's a win away from fighting for the title. He could fight for it right now. Wild. Wild.

As far as Corey Sandhagen goes, haven't heard much. know there were some reports that came out that that weren't actually accurate. But I think, actually, Rob Font makes perfect sense. I don't know how long Fon's going to be out for. I'll probably see him in a couple weeks in Las Vegas. So maybe we'll get an update on where he's at. He took a beating in that Marlon Verra fight. But I feel like that's a good fight right there.

I don't know. We'll see what happens. Maybe they do Sanhagen Cruz. Maybe they do Sanhagen Cruz. that's a fun fight. It's like Cruz and then everyone sort of believes that Sanhagen has a very similar style and you know, Sanhagen's

talked about learning a lot of footwork and movement from Dominic Cruz so that'd be a great fight. So yeah, I mean, 135's fun. They did Song Yidong? Hell yeah, let's go. That's a fun fight. You can't really go wrong at 135 but man, if they do Marab versus Aldo, that's that's freaking crazy.

Let's get Terrence in here then Gary you're on deck Terrence what's up buddy Hey Mike how are you doing this morning Good how are you thanks So I just wanted to talk about like the fact that

Ronda Rousey and calling out Gina which That's always been like one of the fights to make Of course Cyborg would want that fight as well But one How you think that will go And then as well I'm thinking like if they did make that fight

That would be the perfect opportunity to have like a all-women's card and do it like in March, which is international women's month. Another thing that I want to ask you, Rhonda doesn't get the respect because the way she like left the sport and whatever in her attitude or what have you. But she, in my opinion, was one of the most dominant, if not the most dominant woman if you like put all her fights in there.

I know people are like, oh, level of competition, this and that, but the people who they consider, let's say, for example, Amanda at the goat, they fought a lot of the same people. And as far as, like, dominant, a lot of people that beat Amanda back in her early days, Rhonda, like, destroyed. So I want to ask you, who do you think was more dominant as far as, like, their career? Not necessarily wins and losses, but, like, in their wins, who was the most dominant of all, like, for example, Chefchenko, Amanda, and as well as Rhonda.

Thank you very much, Mike. That's all I got for you. Thanks, buddy. Yeah, so I mean, I don't know if Rhonda necessarily called out Gina. She basically was asked, what would it take for you to come back to MMA? And she said very respectfully that it would be for Gina. She would fight Gina. That's the one fight she would come back and do.

And that'd be a pretty big deal. DFC could somehow just get that fight together. That'd be massive. And we know the WWE, who might be in a little bit of trouble right now, Vince McMahon. I'm sure you see in the Wall Street Journal article. I'm sure WWE would allow that to happen, and that'd be a very big deal.

How that fight would go? I mean, literally, I have no idea. I mean, who knows? Ronda hasn't fought since the Nunez fight. She's gone into the wonderful world of pro wrestling. Gina hasn't fought in a long time. I mean, who knows? It would just be anybody's guess at this point. As far as Dominant Women Champions go,

I mean, Ronda was definitely more dominant than Amanda Nunes, in my opinion. I mean, Ronda was just straight up running through women. It just wasn't even close. Like, we just, it got to the point where it's like watching a Mike Tyson fight back in like the pre-Buster Douglas and even, you know, post-prisoned Peter McNeillian stuff. You knew when you were getting a Mike Tyson pay-per-view. He was the main event. Fight was probably in the first or second round. And we were there for it.

And that's kind of how Ronda was. she wasn't winning decisions she was just finishing everybody and then she ran into holly home maybe she was a little too in love with her boxing a little too overconfidence new to his fight not a great game plan

and I know people are pretty sour on ronda because like terran said she left a sport with kind of a sour puss if you will and just a pure neglect and almost hatred for mMA and the fans and the media and all that

and I don't know. I don't know. Domina champions, it's got to be Ronda at this point. And Valentina is knocking on the door of just becoming the greatest women's fighter of all time. It's there. There's arguments we made between all three of those ladies if you really want to go that route.

I have to go with Amanda at this point, but Valentina is very, very close. Very, very, very close. Valentin is the best woman's fighter on the planet right now. I know a lot of people were soured a little bit on the performance this past Saturday, but again, go back and watch it. If you haven't watched it the second time, and Valentina was clearly off. She talked about the injury. I believe her.

I don't think this is an excuse. I don't think it's anything like that. She was able to weather an early storm. I thought she won the second round clearly. She lost the third. One was a toss-up. She clearly won four and five. So it's in my eyes, and I've watched it three times.

I've watched, I put myself through it three times. Scored at 4847 on Saturday. Still scored it 4847 Sunday morning. And I understood why some people would score at 4946 on that second watch. Third watch, I feel exactly the same. So that's what you kind of want to see from your champions these days. How can they do when it ain't going perfect? Because Valentin has had some dominant wins that were not that fun.

to watch and she's had some incredible wins that were really fun to watch that she just ran over great competition. The Jessica Androj title defense is just, it's one of the all-time greats in my opinion. Top five, top ten title defenses of all time. She went out there and just ran over Jessica Andraj and no one can say that. Yonna beat her, styled on her a little bit, but she didn't run Jessica over. Valentina ran her over and was flawless. one of the all-time great title defenses.

Nobody does that to Jessica Andrudge. And if you miss yesterday, Jessica Androge, another big opportunity. I feel like she's the best straw weight in the world right now, or at least very close to it. Her, Jean-Wea Lee, maybe Wei Lee kind of took over with the Yonowin, but they're right, there may be 1A, 1B, 1 and 2. And And Androge is like, I'll go back up to 25. I'll go fight Man in Fioreau.

I'm going to try to thwart this run she's on, make sure she doesn't get to that title fight. Jessica's just such a jeep. She'll fight anybody. It's crazy. Black Friday is here at IKEA and the clock is ticking on savings you won't want to miss.

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Gary Cooper cards. I assume, yeah, I know what it is. Gary, what's up, buddy? Let's see if we can get them in here. The wheel is spinning. Oh, unmute and I think we got you. Mike? Gary, what's up?

Heck of a morning. Indeed. So I just had a quick question. I saw that Dilleshaw and Sterling is now being targeted for a later pay-per-view. I guess with that happening and with Ortega versus Yair and Emmett versus Cater, does shit out of luck, Suhudo, have anywhere to go? That's a great question. That's a great question.

So, yeah, I mean, something tells me, and I have no insight to this. whatsoever. But even Sterling was saying on Twitter that the reports were, I mean, listen, we confirmed it. And if we confirm it, if it's on our website, that means we talk to multiple people and they said, this is the plan. It's been agreed, at least to that point,

if we're going to put it out there for the world to see. We're not going to print anything that we're not sure about. We're not going to go on Twitter and say anything we're not sure about. We're going to go and word things correctly. In the works, targeted. That's the right answer. but even Aljo was like, we'll see what happens. I'm going to break this down on my podcast.

We'll see what Henry Sohudo is doing. Now, at this point, Henry is in the Usada pool, and you have to be in there for a certain number of time. I believe it's six months. You have to be in the pool, pass all the tests, and then you are cleared to compete after you have retired from the sport. And Henry retired from the sport. Back in the pool, it's not like the UFC can give exemptions,

but I think at this point the UFC's done with those because every time they give an exemption to somebody, it bites them on the ass. Brock Lesnar. But maybe they just go do Sehudo Cruz too. Maybe they just go that route. Because you remember, they were talking about Cruz Vera,

so that's there too. But I mean, that fight from what I understood, at least as the other day, was not done on the cruise side. Targeted, it's what the UFC wants. So now we have Sehudo in a very strange place. But so this is what I've been saying the entire time.

Until Sohudo actually gets in the octagon and fight somebody, I don't believe he's coming back. I don't believe it. And I also believe that he shouldn't be put right into a title fight. People, like for some reason, he and so many other people feel like he is the Connor McGregor of the flyweight and bandamweight divisions. Like every time Henry fights, it's a million pay-per-views. It's just not true. It's just not true. And I feel like more people feel like I feel

than the other way around. And again, let me just say this. I respect everything this man has done. Guy is a great fighter. What a pedigree. What a resume in the combat sports world. Incredible. Incredible.

But you left the company high and dry. And the company moved on seconds later. They were over it. He retired. The UFC didn't even wait a day before already having a plan. Jan's, okay, he's gone. Jan's going to fight for the belt next. We'll figure out who he's going to fight.

So we'll see what happens. But that tells me he's going to fight somebody. And he should fight anybody in the top 10. Do Sehudo Sanhagan. I'm fine with that. Do Fon Tsuhudo. Do anybody in the top 10 against Henry Sehudo? Anybody.

someone coming off a win, someone coming off a loss, I don't care. Do Jan Suhudo. How about that? How about Sehudo versus Jan? Do that. There we go. I figured it out. I had to go in a circle, round and round we go, but that's what I'm landing on.

And I will have a lot of respect for him if he takes that fight. Gary, do you have one more thing? All right, we'll try to get you on the other end. How about the energized show? Good show, by the way. Let's see if we can get energized show in here. Energized show, are you there? Mike, what the heck is going on, Junior?

What's that, man? How are you doing, bud? I'm doing good, you? Not bad, not bad, I'm calling you off the coast of Africa, but I hail from Dublin, Ireland. Excellent. What's going on? Mike, I was a bit disappointed to see that TJ Dillich,

I was getting the next title shot over Jose Aldo. I already thought Jose turned his career round at Bantam. might and he deserved that next shot i wasn't as mad on tj win that off that controversial decision over cori san pagan it wasn't for me what are what are your uh what are your thoughts on it would you've rather seen aldo or are you happy to see tjay in there thank you energize show by the way check those guys out um although is the guy i always thought although was the guy i figured if you were going to pull the trigger you had to do it now like let's just what else does this guy have to do i know we fought for the belts a couple years ago but i mean come on

This guy bounced, by the way, go back and watch that Peotre Jan fight because there's, for some reason in history, and I've seen this a lot, people saying that Jan just ran over, Aldo. That is not true. Now, down the stretch, did the tides turn as they typically do in a Peotor Yan fight? Sure, they did. Did it end in brutal fashion in the fifth round? Sure, it did. But the first 15 minutes of that fight was super fun. Really fun.

that fight in Volcanowski Holloway 2 are two underappreciated fights yes Aldo lost he got finished a lot of people were not happy he got that title shot coming off the the loss to Marl Morais and listen it is what it is but what Aldo has done since then he has looked fantastic he has earned every right to fight for that title and in my eyes,

you should have just done Aldo Dilleshaw. That was the fight in my eyes, and then the winner gets Sterling, then there's no debate, no discussion. And now maybe Aldo has to fight Marab, that's just, that's tough, man. That's tough. But it is what it is.

Dillishaw is probably the bigger fight, if we're being honest, because, and I'm curious how the fans are going to look at this fight, because, I mean, even Aljo in Jacksonville was getting booed out of the building. Like when I was at the press conference,

Jan was like, it was like Hulk Hogan walking out to wrestle the Iron Sheik in 1985. I mean, the place like erupted for Piotr Yon and Aljo comes out, he's getting booed out the building. So who's going to be the baby face? Who's going to be the heel? Maybe the UFC's looking at it like this. Maybe we need to give Aljo a big fight,

maybe allow the fans to to turn one way and maybe appreciate Aljo a little bit more. I don't know what they're thinking, but Dillishat's probably the bigger fight over Aldo, which is why they went that rope. But as a fan, as a nostalgic bro, kind of hurt my soul to not see Aldo on that fight.

But we'll see what happens. Our man Jose just needs one more win, and it's undeniable, but he has a strong case for fighting. for the belt anyway after his last few performances. Let's get stealthy in here. You get a long name, my man.

How are you? How are you doing, buddy? What's up, Brad? How are you been? I'm doing good. I remember watching some of WWE pay-p-p-views at your house at your brother. Then, we go way back. Yeah?

What's your last name? Gilman. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. I know, you. Come on, man. But I mean, listen, you know what people call in here and I see this, this Twitter name and I have no idea what's happening, but wow. Yeah.

This is a blast for the past people. You're hearing, you are hearing a reunion from Malden, Massachusetts right now. Dude, bro, I'm so proud of you, man, man. I know you since a little kid, man. And you always had that go-getted attitude, man. And I'm really pumped to see you get to the level where you are at in your career right now. And I look forward to seeing you right next to John Anick in D.C. one day. That's what I'm hoping.

Hey, listen, if I get to sit beside John Anick and do anything, I'm down. I'm down. One of my favorite people in the business. Oh, my God. Brett, you're the man. Hey, I appreciate that. But I want to get your take. And I know it's not UFC Austin and Aldo and not the vision.

But I want to get your take on this because I'm kind of like pumped up about seeing a Michael Chandler-Connor McGrega fight. I'm tired of, I don't want to see Conner McGrega go out for a third time with DP. I don't want to see him go out of a third time with Diaz. I want to see a live fucking in the flesh just hammet tosses, uh, electric, uh, Avenue. Like, I want to see Chandler and McGregor. What are the chances of Ross T and not anytime soon, Mike Eck. Brett, you're the man. Thank you very much. Wow, that was so cool. I think very likely I think very likely we're going to see that fight next

now and it's all about timing too I just don't know like I know there's talks about maybe I know a lot of people want to see McGregor Mazadol after what happened in Mazadal's last fight that was sort of the one everybody wanted to see but I think Chandler deserves this fight

I think it's a big fight I think it's an exciting fight I think stylistically it's really interesting and I think that's the fight Dana White, you know, I live in a world where not everything Dana White says is wholly accurate, but I believe him when he says that that's the fight he wants. And he doesn't, when it comes to matchmaking for Connor, it's usually pretty spot on. So it all depends.

Like, is it going to be anytime soon? Will we see it this year? Probably not. But will we see it early next year? Yeah. I think it's a very strong possibility. It all just depends. I think when Connor's ready to come back,

it all just depends on what's going on with Chandler and when he's ready to return, but I think there's a very good chance to see that fight. And I'm here for it. And I'm here for Jimmy Wang Yang to hop on in here. What's up, buddy? Good. Good morning, Mike. How are you doing? Good.

I'm good. So I just wanted to touch on a couple things that was already said. So I agree with you with the Ronda thing. I definitely think the way she was just beating people in what? It was like inside of a minute. And then in her first, what, three, four title defenses, it was what, a combined 90 seconds of her fight time.

So it was definitely Mike Tyson S. Just with judo. And I have to appreciate that because I did judo when I was 12. So that was just crazy to me. So I definitely think she's still from a, I think she's the only woman we ever, put the question on, is this girl she's fighting going to get out the first minute

of the first round? Not even just the first round, the first minute. So I definitely give her that. And I think I like you said, maybe Val really was her. That does

seem like it might play a point. But I also think people would not give Talia enough credit. Maybe she could make some adjustments in the second fight. Maybe she could. but I wanted to ask you how would you, who would you side with? I know this fight ain't made. Yeah,

I know they say it ain't close, but who would you edge out in the John Jones versus Steepi Miotis fight? Heck of a morning, Mike, thank you. Yeah, there we go. Let me just unmute myself and then we could do this like a professional. It's sometimes you're trying to get a cup of a sip of coffee,

sometimes your kids asking you questions, and we do all those things. Yeah, I mean, I give Tyler lots of credit. I believe she is the second best 125er in the world. And I would favor her to beat anybody in that division

besides Valentina Shepchenko. And even if she fights Valentina again, if they go the immediate rematch, which I don't, I mean, maybe her next fight will be against Valentina. It won't be Valentina's next fight just because of the eye and the orbital break and the surgery

and all that stuff. So it could be a while before Tyler's back, but that line will be a little bit closer. And I would favor Valentin. I think Valentin will look a lot better in that fight. But I give Tyler lots of credit. It was a great game plan. She was able to,

because I thought one of my concerns heading into that fight on the Tyler side was I couldn't ignore the Mara Borrell loss because she just wasn't herself. First UFC fight. Sometimes those jitters get to you. And that was one of the concerns I had. And when she walked out to that octagon, that was one of the first things I noticed.

Valentina looked like she was ready to murder somebody and Tyler looked like she was ready to cry. But Tyler got some confidence going early and that's how the fight went. And then the unfortunate clash of heads changed everything. But yeah, I give her a lot of credit. It was a great fight. She gave Valentina a really tough run.

And yeah, I mean, that's that's huge her stock rose tremendously in my eyes john jones stepe i would favor john but again we don't know what john we're going to get we haven't seen john since the dominic rayus fight we know how we know how much bigger he's gotten who knows maybe heavyweight was the way maybe the weight cut did something to him maybe that's why he hasn't performed to the lovely normally performance i don't know but i would favor john i just think he has more ways to win but that's the fight to make for

sure let's go to we're gonna go yasser then it's not Islam and then ben and then we're gonna keep on going here yasser are you there oh how are you Mike what's up buddy thank you for giving me this this opportunity I want to to ask you about the future of Jose Aldo in his last maybe fights or sometimes he goes up, sometimes he goes down. So do you think that he has the ability to get back to the top? Or what do you? Another question, sorry.

The people say that Glover Tshara is too old to get back. to get back to that, you know, to fight again. But I think he has, you know, we all saw his ability. He took Brouaska down many times. He dominated on that fight. He showed that he, you know, more experience but i don't know why people say he has not any chance

so give me your thought about those things sure and thank you again oh sorry i didn't mean to cut you off but thank you sir um although i think aldo could fight for the belt right now and i think he could win so i think he's got plenty of gas left in the tank if he fought alger right now it's a close fight. It's a close fight. I would actually pick Al-Jo to win that fight, but it's close.

It's definitely a close fight. And with the Glover thing, like, how can anybody, like, listen, the guy's 42, I get it. And he, at moments in that fight, he looked a little old, but the dude's heart is ginormous. He has the heart of an 18-year-old. And the guy went hammering tongs with Yuri Perashka for 24 minutes. It was winning the fight. He was winning. He was 28 seconds away from this conversation not even happening of him retaining the title.

He won three rounds on two judges' scorecards and was on the way to winning a fourth. And then the fight just ended the way. Of course it was going to end the way that it did. Because why wouldn't it? It's a freaking Yuri Perashka fight. And we have the chaos mode still enabled. We forgot to turn that off. So, yeah, I don't think he's too old.

He can do whatever he wants to do. Give him an immediate rematch. I'd watch the hell out of it. I would favor Yuri the second time around because it's just so tough, man, to go through a war like that. You're winning. You got it.

It's in the bag. You just got to last 28 more seconds. And you win. And then you lose. Then you get submitted out of nowhere with less than 30 seconds. left in the fight. You lose the title. The fairy tale ends. Glover's ability to hang with Yuri is still going to be there. But man, spiritually, mentally, that's got to take a toll on you.

And just the war itself has to take a toll on you. So for Glover, I would like to see the rematch. Just do it one more time. And that's it. I mean, if Glover wins, just run another third time, then let him run back into the subset. But like, I don't want to see him fight Ankyos. I don't want to see him fight Yan. I don't want to see him fight. Anybody else. Like, that's the fight. Just do that one. And do it now because you're never going to get it again.

You probably have a year tops to make that fight happen. Well, all these other fights that are, you could do Jan, you could do Magamahen, Ancolaev, you could do Anthony Smith against Yuri. Like, the fight to do it, like, if you're going to do the rematch, you've got to do it now. This isn't Connor Nate. You can't just put it in your back pocket and be like, hey, if we have nothing going on, we can just go to this well. it's a huge fight. We don't have that here.

You only have the hourglass is turned over and the sand is slowly falling through the cracks there. So my opinion, do it now. That's it. Not Islam, Mike Chess. What's up? Just unmute and we got you. Not Islam. Are you there?

Yeah, can't get him. Sorry, buddy. Try again. Ben? Ben, what's up? What's going on, Mike? Can you hear me? Hi, Ben. Hey, so a couple things. First of all, might not like this,

but I'm picking Gamrot to beat Syruki-in next week. So I was wondering if you could kind of break down that fight. I'm sure you've talked about it, and I know you're a huge Syracian fan, but you're at least very high on him. But I was wondering if you can kind of break down how you think that fight's going to play out. Second, I'm a big fan of Shauna Valley,

and I think he's going to probably knock out Pedro in July 2nd. So my bold prediction is that by the end of 2023, he's going to be the champ. And I think a lot of people would disagree with that. But we're going to find out pretty soon because he's touching the top 10 here. So we're going to see what he's all about. And then lastly, just I agree with a lot of your takes. But I will say, I always find it funny when Boston Celtics fans complain about flopping.

It's just ironic with like smart and Grant Williams. I mean, those are some of the biggest floppers in the NBA. So I think it kind of evens out of the end. But overall, love to show. Have a good one like. Thank you, Ben. First of all, you're wrong because the Celtics would never flop. They're a professional organization, and they would never do such a thing.

I'm with you in a lot of ways, but, I mean, come on. That fourth quarter was an abomination, especially the first half of it. You know it. You know it. Whenever the Celtics sucked and sucked real bad, but they got a lot of momentum, and those officials just sucked it. out of them. They just took the momentum vacuum cleaner and just sucked it back into the tube there. It pissed me off. And then they just fell apart and that's it. Now we get game six and I feel good

about it. So the Surukion Gamron fight, I just love the fight. It's so good. I just think Surukian is way more ways to win. His grappling is unbelievable. He's huge for the division. So tactical. The man can strike two. He can crack. Gamrod is the footwork. work, the style, the dude can scrap, he can wrestle too. I actually think Sirukian on the ground is better than Gamrod. Gamrod's wrestling is really good, but I think Sirukyam, once you get on the ground, scrambles, position, I think Armand's better. And I just think he's stronger in a lot of those cases.

And he's just a tremendous finisher. We didn't see it early on in Armand's career in the UFC, but these last few fights you've seen it. Gamrod, too. He's looked great in his last couple fights. I think the betting lines are spot on right now. Armand's a minus 240 favorite. Come back on Matush Gamrod is plus 195.

Spot on. Spot on. I can't wait for the fight. I can't wait to see it. And some people are complaining about it being a main event. How dare you is what I say. Brent, you're up. What's up?

I got a quick question for you. There's been, it feels like there's been a real uptick in the popularity of Gamble. on MMA in the last 12 to 18 months. My question is, is it possible that this could lead to like an uptake in corruption or even possibly fixed fights? And that's my question. Thank you.

Very interesting. Interesting question. I think we just have to, I think unfortunately we just have to wait and see. I'm going to try to stay positive here and say no, at least in the major organizations. could we see it regionally? I mean, we've seen it before. There are instances of, you know, there's different things. If you go search Google for, you know, fight fixing in MMA and things like that,

there's very few examples, but I'm sure it is happening more often than even we know in some of those organizations. I don't think it's happening in the UFC or Bellator or anything like that. The PFL Challenger series thing was kind of, kind of, tough because they were putting out betting lines for a card that already happened. So that was a weird one. Hopefully they learned their lesson. They never do that again. But that was just a dumb move.

Like you can't do that. You can't put out betting lines for fights that already happened. That's just silly. But again, it might have been at oversight. So I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. But yeah, I don't know. And that's kind of one of my,

for a while, was on the, because we were talking about judging and stuff, and we're not going to talk about open scoring or any of that nonsense right now. But fixing judging was a big topic of conversation. A lot of people were, and I was one of those people too who we need to get fighters in there. We need to get fighters in there to do judging. And while there's a lot of value to that, there is some, that's one of my concerns more than anything. If you get fighters in there judging fights and they know these guys or,

they've trained with them once in the blue moon, like once upon a time or things like that. Maybe the judge or scorecards go a different way. I don't know. I think it's something we have to watch very closely. I'm sure if you have that concern and others do, I'm sure some of the people running these sites, some of the people in high spots in these big organizations, they're probably thinking about that too, because that's the last thing they need, especially like if you're the UFC is to have some sort of tomfoolery going on.

That'd be a tough one to come back from, honestly. Let's go to the Natural Grappler. Dom, you're on deck. What's up, Natural Grappler? Make sure you unmute. There we go. Mike, what's going on? What's going on?

How are we doing, man? Hey, glad to be here. Hey, real quick, man. My phone's going to cut out. But first of all, the ESFL is an e-sports gaming league. They just had a big event in Las Vegas. It was amazing. And I just want to know your take on that.

Thanks, buddy. On the ESFL? I'm going to take your word for it that it's a great event. Not my cup of tea, but I know it is very big. I know there are a lot of fighters who are in the gaming community that enjoy very much. Max Holloway, DJ, to name a few, and there's more, Megan Anderson. There's plenty of fighters who are involved in the gaming world.

Robert Whitaker's another one. It can be very lucrative. Not my thing. but I'm not hating on anybody who likes that stuff because it's probably very fun. I bet if I actually got into it, I would like it. Tom Elliott, you're up. What's going on, Dom?

Just got to unmute and we're good. Oh, hey, Mike. Hey, Mike, how you doing? Good, how are you? Yeah, good man. Someone touched on the heavyweight situation with Jones and Steepay. do you think that's going to happen on the same night as the Dillishaw title fight?

And do you think the Aspinall fight and the Garn fight, do you think it's the nature of the performance of the win that will dictate who gets the winner? Yeah, I think so. Thank you, Dom. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to place, I'm confident that John Jones will fight Steep A in the next year. that's i think i think the fight will happen am i confident that's going to happen in three months not real i don't know it's just it's too risky it lines up with the timelines like i know jones

mentioned september i know stepea won september so it would line up time frame wise and make sterling dillishaw a little more interesting does it not put jones stepe in the main event there as of right now I'm trying to I know Boston is in the running to get that card Anaheim might be in the running as well but I know Boston is being discussed

because that August 13th card I believe I think it was August 13th yeah the one that is the one that is looking like Vera Cruz will headline that was that was supposed to be in Boston there was smoke to all of that but now

maybe September 10th Maybe Bossa gets a pay-per-view. Maybe they get John Jones versus Sipe, which should be freaking crazy. I have to say, we can have all the performances we want. We could have Aspinall go out there and do the damn thing. We could have Curtis Blades go out and do the damn thing,

gone, et cetera. The winner of Aspinall Blades is probably the front runner. But if Tai Taito Ivasa beat Cyril Gahn, he wins no matter what, in my opinion. that's how I would do it. In fact, I would have given him the shot immediately. Like, if Jones just wanted to go and Steepie wasn't ready, and they just wanted to move this thing along and get the interim thing done,

like Ty should just get a shot. If Ty beats Cyril gone in Paris, he gets the shot. Because what else you're going to do it? Like, you have to do it quick. If he beats Cyril, you have to give it to him. Because he's the biggest, he's the biggest draw out of all those guys. Sure, Aspedal is huge in London, but they're not going to do Aspinall versus Jones or Aspinall versus Stepe in London. They're going to do that in Cleveland or Vegas or somewhere else where Aspedal is not going to get the baby face rub.

But Tai Tuivasa is a baby face anywhere. People are cheering him in freaking Houston when he was fighting Derek Lewis, for God's sake. He is over like Rover right now. So I think if Ty wins no matter how he does it, he's getting the shot over Aspidol, Blades, anybody. but the good thing for Aspedal Blades is whoever wins that fight, if they get a quick finish, if they come out relatively unscathed,

they can't get Jones on the books or can't get Steepa on the books, one of those guys can just slide right in. So good plan. You have those two fights spaced out nicely where you could still do Aspinall or Blades if you need them, but if it's just,

if all things go the way they want, both fights happen. Somehow Joan Steepay gets on the card for September. If Tai Tui Vasa beats Cyril gone, I think he gets the shot no matter what. Motivated Andy, then Toc, then Kenichi. What's that, motivated Andy?

Motivated Andy. Yo, Mike, sorry. I was getting a call. There you are. You change it to the West Coast now I'm in the middle of work. I had a quick question, Mike Peck. Who fights first this year?

John Jones, Carr-Magrigger, Henry Zahood. Great question. Again, it's Jesus. So hard to put confidence on either of those guys. I will say, I'll say John Jones, number one, I can't believe I'm going to say this. So hoodo number two, Connor three. I'll indicate, I mean, listen,

Connor is throwing freaking kicks on heavy bags with that broken leg or previously broken leg. So maybe he comes back sooner, but from all accounts, I know Ariel has talked about it as well. It looks like early next year for Connor, February, March. That seems to be the plan. Although plans change, this is MMA and chaos is a constant. But that's the way I would, that's the way I kind of look at it.

It would be, I think they'll do Jones-Stepe this year. Then Sehudo, because I think he's going to, Sehudo will just complain about not getting a title. shot. But eventually he's just going to have to realize he's going to have to take a fight. He's going to take one. And then Connor next year. That's what I think. I could be wrong, but that's the way I look at it. Toke, you are up. Good morning, sir. Yo. So, well, I'm just wondering, I'm going to use the gymnastics scale and say that this UFC Austin card, that's for a fight night card. This is basically all.

almost a nine. This is an amazing car. And what I'm seeing is also, and I want you to speak a bit on this, Daron wins trying to make middleweight again, which he has failed, I don't know how many times at this point. So that fight might be a banger or it might just not happen because again, Duran win, he can't make middleweight. I mean, and this hinges on his UFC life. He's going to get cut if he doesn't make it this time. So, yeah, I just talk about the card in the low-key bangers and then go on to Diron win. And yeah, that's it. Thank you, Tokyo. I love this card.

It's really good. I tweet about it last night. Top to bottom, very solid. Main event's excellence. Co-main event, nostalgic, but still a really fun fight. Tim means Kevin Holland is a banger. Buckley Jariath's just going to be nuts until it's over. Isma Gulov, Kutatsalazzi is awesome.

Maybe the best fight on the card, total. Marquez Rodriguez will be fun. Yanez, Tony Kelly will be fun. Jeremiah Wells, I mean, tough draw against Court McGee, but Jeremiah Wells, if he beats Cort McGee, he's a legit player in this division. Jazz and Jazz DeVizzi is back against Natalia Silva. Maria Olivera versus Gloria DePaula.

Danny Chavez, Ricardo Hamos, a good fight. Cody, Stam and Eddie Weil. could be a banger. Docus Alizze. Interesting. I favor Daucus. Haas win. Yeah, it could be fun.

Could be fun. But Wynne's going to wrestle his ass off. But Haas also has really good wrestling. So I don't know. Low-key banger. Hmm. I mean, Yonnas Kelly's not really low-key banger, but that fight's going to be really good.

I'll go Stamin-Wiland. I think that fight's going to be a banger. I'll go with that one. but I love the card. It's really solid. Very solid fight night card. Great follow up to 275. This fight, as I said before, Kichich, I'll get to you a second.

But this fight, as I said before, on paper, top to bottom, better than 275. Now, 275 at the top three fights, this card does not have that. But top to bottom, first fight to last, this card's better. All right, Kadiqi, what's up? Yo, what up, Mike? Can you hear me? Okay. Yes, sir.

All right. Thank you, man. This is my first. I'm speaking, so a little shaky, but I just had two hypothetical questions for you. But, you know, yesterday I read the news about Zabit. And also, sorry if you guys talked about this earlier, I joined a little late. But, you know, when I first saw I watch MMA, like DeBit was, like, basically dominating everyone he was fighting. And then at the same time, on the women's side, I was watching Tachana Suarez kind of do the same thing.

So, you know, I know she has the intentions on coming back, but she's, like, battling. you know, injuries and stuff like that. So I guess my first hypothetical is if Tatiana never came back or she came back as a shell of herself, who would be the bigger what if, like Zabit or Tatiana? And then second question, you know, back in the day when you know your boys with your hanging out, you do the F1, Kill One, Mary one game, right?

So I wanted to put it in your shoes, Mike, but a little different. You're a coach, right? And I want to give you three names, the guys. I think they're all like top 15 and you're running. rankings, but, you know, kind of still young and coming up. So you basically got to pick one guy that you would, like, you're all in on. You're going to coach him until he retires. Like, he's your boy.

You got to pick a second guy that you'll coach for, like, one camp. You know, you'd be open to working with for maybe one camp in their career. And then one guy you're just going to, like, you have no interest in coaching. And the three guys would be Alexander Romanov, Sean Brady, and Sean O'Malley. I know they're all different weight classes, so you could technically coach them all, but just for the game's sake. those three names. That's all I got.

Thanks, man. Damn, dude. That's a tough-ass question. This Abit thing is just crazy, right? It's not really surprising. I think he's one of those guys where we sort of held out hope. Maybe we get another fight out of him. But, again, this shouldn't be all that surprising.

This has been kind of the direction this has been heading for a while. But now to see it actually official, we first reported that Zabit has notified the UFC he is retiring. And, yeah, the thing. Tatiana part of this is interesting, but it's got to be Zabit. It's just got to be Zabit at this point. Tatiana has looked real good. She's had some great wins, and there's still more of a sample size that I need to see, but I feel like what's the beat, I mean, it's close, but I feel like Zabit, just being

as young as he is, and just seeing how much he could possibly grow, how high is feeling actually is, and soares the ceiling is very high as well. But I feel like it beats the answer for sure. Man, the other one, coach forever. Coach once, not coach at all. I will go Sean Brady coach forever. Romanov coach once. O'Malley, O'Malley, fine.

I mean, O'Malley doesn't need me. So he'd be like, okay. You know what I mean? That's probably the way I look at it. I'd like to coach all of them, but if I'm leaving one out, I'll leave O'Malley out. O'Malley leads, like, things done a certain way. He's very specialized. He's got a great relationship with his coach.

He probably wouldn't train with me anyway, so I'll leave him out of the picture. But Brady, I feel like we could do more with, and he's super talented as is. And then Romanov, I just want to do it one time. Because once Romanoff comes to my gym and starts ragdolling dudes, no one's going to want to come to my gym anymore. So I'll just take it for one camp and I'll promise the rest of the squad that he ain't coming back.

You guys can come back to the team. You won't get suplexed. Tadjik Bay, Andre, you're on deck. And then Brian Cashman. What's up, Tadjik Bay? Oh, hello, Mike. Can you hear me okay? Yes, sir.

Okay, great. You know, it's a heck of a morning here. So, yeah. It is? Yeah, I wanted to give some thoughts maybe from what previous listeners spoke about. I think with regards to Cyril Ghan, what's going to happen is that should he beat Bam Bam Friwasa,

he's going to fight the winner of Curtis Blade versus Tom Aspinall, and it's going to be for the interim title. Because I think the discussions between UFC and Francis at this point, I kind of at impasse, and it's hard to expect any breakthrough soon, so we'll see how that pans out. But I think in all likelihood, we're going to see something like gun fighting.

Tom Ospinal, I think Tom Aspinall should beat Curtis Blades here. Yeah, and in terms of the card that we're talking about right now, I think maybe a couple of quick predictions. I think Donald Seron and Joel Ozon, I see this fight to be a pretty interesting fight. I think both fighters will retire. after this fight despite the outcome and I think the most logical outcome that I see for both of them the perfect rather is going to be a draw so I'm going to be entertaining you know I'm I think I'm going to be playing the draw here Serrona versus Lozon I think it's going to be interesting and one of the favorite underdogs that I like for this card I think is actually is going to be a drone win I think their own win is going to make weight he looks to be in a great shape you know he's in a great camp going in and I have a lot of confidence.

And he will put on the great fight. And then finally, I think the one who will emerge as a contender here after his main await fight is going to be Josh Emmett. Very underlooked. I think Josh Emmett right now comes in his prime of his career. And I think Calvin Cater right now is probably at the downside. And if it wasn't for the Holloway defeat that having. defeat that Kater has sustained.

I think he should have been a dessert favorite here, but I believe Josh Emmett will be victorious here. So yeah, a couple of predictions, couple of matchmaking here. Heck of a morning, always great to join. And yeah, thanks again. Thank you, Tadjik Bay. Yeah, I mean, hard to argue with a lot of those things. I do favor Keter to beat Emmett.

I just think Emmett's great. Emmett's a really good fighter. I just think the volume could be a little too much for Emmett, but Emmett has that equalizer for sure. Emmett can also wrestle his ass off. But Cater's a very good wrestler, too, just doesn't really need it all that often. So I love the fight.

I'm intrigued by it all. But I understand why people would favor Emmett, and I would understand why people would favor Cater. Great fight. We're going to keep it moving here. Andre. Hey, fellas. Thanks for letting me on here.

Appreciate it. I definitely agree with you. Tajik Bay, I think that the biggest play I'm going to be making is on Duran win. I think he comes in with his life on the line, in the best shape of his life, has just put in a full camp with Khabib over at A.K.A. And my boxing coach is actually his corner man. And he told me, like, years ago, like, Duran's freakishly strong. If he could get this guy focused, he's a problem.

And I talked to him yesterday, and he's like, you have no idea. This guy's locked in. Haas has got no chance. He's going to get gassed out. We're going to wrestle fuck the shit out of him. So I think that Duran Win comes in and completely puts on a career performance, dominates Phil Haas. I got him in quite a few parlayes. I also think that Cowboy is going to liver kick Joe Lozahn's ass and beat stop him, especially just the trajectory of like their names.

I think like they're both, you know, very well-known, but Cowboys just got that, that aura about him. I think they're going to send him out on a high note. And then the last two I wanted to give out was I definitely think Kevin Holland is going to knock out the dirty bird. Tim Means. I don't see Tim Means being able to keep up with the speed. And lastly, I do agree with you in the sense that Calvin Qatar is going to outbox Josh Emmett. Josh Emmett has tremendous power. And like you mentioned, he's got a wrestling acumen.

He could take him down and throw some elbows and whatnot. But I just think Kelvin Qatar, after watching what he did to Giga, I mean, I had Giga on that big time. So I thought Giga was going to be like the future of the division. And then you see Qatar absolutely beat the brakes off him. And I was like, all right, let's take a look at some of these old Qatar fights and, you know, take away the Holloway fight. And this guy just looked like a sniper, you know. He looks like a guy that's super calm in the pocket under pressure. And when you're fighting a boxer that's that good, you have to box with them.

They get in your face and you have to be able to hold off their volume. And I just think that if Michael Johnson was winning a fight before he got shadow-reled by Emmett, what is a superior boxer like Qatar going to be able to do? So thanks for letting me speak. Thanks, Andre. Yeah, the Wynn-Haw's fight is interesting. I think that's the biggest difference in the fight is, can Wynn just chain wrestle his ass off and gas fill Haws out?

That's a huge question in this fight, and that's why there is value on Duran win. And Duran's coming off of victory, I believe, in his last fight. Let me just make sure it's been a while. I know Wynn was booked. This fight was booked like 14 times, I believe. And then Haas took a few others in the means of it. Yes, Wynn did win his last fight against Antonio Ojo.

And, yeah, I mean, it wasn't the greatest performance of all time. But again, Phil's had moments where the gas take has helped him, and he's had moments where the gas tank has let him down. So, but Haas can absolutely crack. And we've seen, we've seen wind fade down the stretch too. So it'll be interesting. wind seems in great shape, seems in great spirits. He seems to be in a spot where he doesn't care what anybody thinks about him.

And that's huge because that wasn't always the case. Normally he cared about what these guys talked about and what the fans had to say and how people reacted to certain things. And I feel like he's maybe past that. And I think that's a big thing for him. All right. Brian, then Jay, ahead. You're going to wrap us up.

And then we're out of here. Brian. Heck of a morning to you, Mike. What's up, buddy? I got a couple things for you, and I'm going to apologize for my language in advance. But how about your guy, Danny fucking Sabatelo, on the MMA hours the other day? Absolutely. I mean, what a moment.

What a moment. You know what? Because there's a few instances where I was like, keep an eye on this guy, keep an eye on this guy. And when I interview them and put him on the feed, everyone's like, oh, who the hell is this guy? No one gives a shit, blah, blah, blah. Now look at him. Now he's on Ariel show. You're right.

That was amazing. Yeah, you were the first person I saw her interview. doing them and I was like, dang, I got to keep watching this guy. So there's my first thing. And my second thing, with the booking of all these heavyweight fights with other than Steve A and Jones, do you think the UFC was like, who out of these four can beat Curtis Blades and who does Tai Tuivasa have the best chance of beating? Do you think that's how they matched them up? Because, like, if you look at those four guys, I mean, if you match up Curtis with Ty. It's just a no-brainer. Curtis Boyd is going to beat him. And if you match up

almost anyone, it doesn't seem like he could beat any of those guys. And at least Cyril's going to strike with them. So do you think that's how they kind of looked into booking those? Try to get Aspinol and Ty to the next level. That's all I got for you. And Danny fucking Sabatelo, baby. Danny Sabs. Yeah, it was cool seeing him on the MMA hour. I interviewed Danny. I think it's on the podcast feed from a couple of weeks ago. Just unbelievable stuff.

Some stuff that he didn't talk with Ariel about. So go back into the podcast archives. Check that out. Just really great stuff. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I just, I don't know. This is what they came up with.

There might be some truth to that. But I honestly have no idea. But there might be some truth to that. I think stylistically, and I, at first I hated the gone fight for Ty. And then kind of watching some tape and just seeing Gone lose to Nganoo and the effect that might have on him. Like if you're going to fight Gun, now is probably the time to do it. And Ty Ty's on a nice little run right now. So yeah, maybe there's some truth to that.

But I think this is the only way you could really do it. So Jay and then I hid and then we're out of here. What's up, Jay? Hey, it was something, Mike Heck, good morning, man. What's up, buddy? So you kind of foreshadowed this question a little bit earlier, but if the Marab and Aldo fight is going to be official, what's next for Peter Yon?

The only person that's in the top fight is available, Sanhagen. And maybe they might want to run it back, but I was actually kind of hoping they actually set up Marab versus Yan. That was actually the fight I was looking for it. But, yeah, I just want to get your opinion on what do you think is next for Jan. And then also another point I wanted to bring up is why is Jessica Contra going back up to 125? I mean, yeah, I admit she's a G for doing this, but do you think it's kind of risky if she loses this fight, then she might not get the strawweight title shot?

So yeah, so do you guys know any reason why she went up or does she just decided to take it? So thanks, and have a heck of a morning, man. Thanks, Jay. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. But it's also the biggest fight she can get right now. She's not getting the title shot right now because Zhang Wei is getting the title shot. She could fight Marina Rodriguez, maybe.

And then, so basically it just kind of weighs it out. Like, Jessica's not going to say no to any opportunity. So that's probably the correct answer. They probably just went. So here's how I was told the talks went, at least from one source that I spoke with. Chikagan was injured, was out of the fight. Five minutes later, Andrade was in.

They probably just called her. She said yes, and that was it. And Andrade's versus Fioro is probably a bigger fight than Androx versus Rodriguez. And it's not Brazilian on Brazilian crime. It's Brazilian on France crime. She could be the away team. Who doesn't want to go to Paris? You saw it after UFC 275.

The entire Australian card wanted to go and fight on that card. So, yeah. G move, love it. And for the Pejorieu-on thing, just do Sehudo. That's the fight. Do Jan Sehudo. Perfect. Sohudo wins, gets his title shot.

No arguments for me. And if Jan wins, he makes a strong case to run it back with Aljo a third time, or maybe he fights Dillashaw. If Dillishaw wins, there you go. But that's it. I mean, it's all there. So who does So hoodo's it

That's the fight Do Sohudo I will have Again I've said this a million times I will have immense respect for Sohudo If they book this fight Pen goes to paper That's the one they go with

I will come on this program And I will I will cut a five minute promo On the respect I will have For Henry Sehudo If he takes that fight So that's what I would do

All right ahead I'm on pins and needles My man Close the show to end, you got to finish, what is it, the best finished last, save the best for last, didn't it? No, I'm just joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. But listen, firstly, I wasn't going to talk about him, but I heard Duran win, and that was a familiar name, and I was like, oh, yeah, that's the A. A.k.a. guy, and it's also the guy. Like, I was thinking, that's the last guy watched,

whose fight was so boring. My goodness, it's like some, listen, I get it. It's M.A. and it's wrestling. I get it. Fine. Advanced position. Posture up. Do something. Even if it's a Bilal type thing. It's like a little,

those little punches on the ground. Fine, fine. But not some weird dry-humping type rubbish. Like, it's him and it's Jacob Malkoon as well. That was just so ridiculous to watch. No, man. And get Mike and everyone. Get ready to listen to D.C.

shit about his boy, Duran, because you know D.C. is unfortunately on the commentary table this weekend, and you know he's going to lick out Duran Wins are so bad on the commentary table. That's how he does for all of his AKA boys. He should not be on the job for AKA boys.

He clearly cannot maintain a professional state when his AKA guys are fighting. And I'm, okay, fine. That in itself isn't professional. but you accepting the job when you know you can't handle yourself, that's unprofessional. So I wasn't going to talk about Duran win, but someone brought him up. So yeah, but let's talk about something else. Obviously, bad to wait.

Mike, what is up with you and Henry Suhuda? Did he like, like, what do you say to you, man? Like, even I've got an opinion on Henry, which I'm not going to say because I don't want a backbite. But listen, even if Henry's Henry, Mike, you put up with so many. personalities in the MMA world. Someone mentioned Danny Sabatello, who's got a voice squeakier than Mickey Mouse. And it's like, you put up with it.

He's got those weird glasses, bro. You put up with him, but not Henry. Listen, for me, I, again, I could say a lot of things about Henry. I don't want to say it because, again, I don't want to say anything mean. I will say something to mean about his coach, Eric Albersene, a narcissist of the highest level, who calls himself, captain you're not jack sparrow but like the thing is right henry he's done what he's done i think for me i personally want to see henry the title fight because there's fight with dillashore and al germain

it's not confirmed uh al germane's gone out on twitter and said he hasn't signed a contract he's he was he was still calling out henry so i know al germain wants it henry wants it even if it has to be pushed back to october on november that seems like the fight because here's the thing Mike. If you do that fight, you can do Peoria and Dillashore. And then the win of that fight doesn't get a title shot because Piotrion, if it's for some reason his stock has dropped a little bit. I don't know why, but no one's as excited to see him in a title shot straight away. Dillishaw is a cheating little crackhead so he can forget about it. And then Aldo deserves the next title shot. And I've got to disagree, Mike. I think this is actually really good matchup for

Aldo. Think about it. Aldo's not Marlon Marais. He's much more well-rounded on the feet. Stellar take-down defense and just really good cardio. I think that's what you do with the Bantz. And the thing is as well, if Al Jermaine wins, yeah, you can do Al-O-Aldo. If Henry wins, Henry will move up and then you can do an interim title. So therefore, you're able to use more people in the bantam weight of issues. So it creates less of a backlog. Right. And lastly, as well, you know you were talking about oh henry doesn't sell as much as the illustri we're talking about like the numbers like the thing is is this like aljama is the champion and i like al jermaine but i have to be brutally honest I defended him against the trolls, but I really have to be honest. Al Jermaine couldn't sell water to an Arab in a desert.

I'm deadly serious here. Even if it's Madison Square Garden, New York, you can't put him as the main event ever. It has to be Charles and Marketshire. So it doesn't really matter what they do in the co-main event. Because if you put Charles Markachev as the main event, that's selling. That's selling. Aljo is not doing anything regardless of here it is. I'm sorry.

I just have to say how it is. Thank you, Mike, for letting me wrap it up and let me go on and on. Much appreciated. I mean, this is why we left a hit for last, everybody. Dude just has his takes. They're fiery. And he stands by everything he says. Yeah, I mean, listen, we'll see what happens.

But we're going to get Sterling Delishaw. I know it's not signed, sealed delivered. As everybody was reported, it's not signed sealed delivered. It's been pretty much agreed upon. That's the direction they want to go. I don't think Sterling's really in any position to be making demands on who he should fight and when he should fight and that. And I agree with you.

I'll just, I mean, none of those guys, Suhudo's not a main eventor. He has made events in cards, but he's not a main eventer. He's not selling 500, 600,000 pay-per-views. He's not, especially if being out for so long and the unreliability behind him, But I think they'll just go ahead and do that fight. And then, like you said, it'll be the co-main event to either Oliver Amachachev

or maybe they'd get Joan Steepay done, co-main event for that one. I mean, I just don't know what else you could do, really. It's got to be one of those big fights. So that's it. We are out of here, hour and 15 minutes. I said I'd go an hour, but screw it. We went a little bit longer. 3 p.m. Eastern, everybody.

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M.A. Fighting YouTube channel, BTL returns. And then we'll be back here. on the Twitter spaces tomorrow, 10 a.m. Eastern, we'll do it again. Maybe as the UFC, I don't know when the UFC Austin Wayans are, but we're either going to be doing it while they're happening or we'll be reacting to it after the fact. And we'll preview show 3 p.m. Eastern, PFL on Friday, and then Saturday, People's Pre-Fight Show, 3.30 p.m. Eastern, M.A. Fighting YouTube channel,

because it's an early start time. 4 p.m. Eastern prelims, 7 p.m. Eastern main card, post-fight show. On to the next one. All that fun stuff is we're on the, Road to International Fight Week. UFC 276 in Las Vegas. And I will be there, baby. And we have some fun stuff planned for you. Let me tell you.

But until that, everybody, I am Mike Eck. We are done. Have a great rest of the day. And as always, have a heck of a morning. Yeah, podcast network. Okay. Only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line.

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