MMA Fighting - HOAM | Does Alexander Volkanovski or Kamaru Usman Have Better Chance To Pull Off UFC 294 Upset?

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

Alexander Volkanovski and Kamaru Usman, unsurprisingly, enter their short notice UFC 294 matchups as pretty sizable underdogs. Between the two competitors, who has the best chance to pull off the upset at Saturday's pay-per-view event? On an all-new edition of Heck of a Morning, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck discusses Volkanovski's underdog chances against Islam Makhachev in their rematch in the main event, and Usman's against Khamzat Chimaev in the co-main event. Additionally, listener questions include Misfits Boxing's PRIME Card fallout, Dillon Danis' performance against Logan Paul and where Danis goes from there, Magomed Ankalaev vs. Johnny Walker flying way under the radar, what could be next for Max Holloway, and much more. You can listen live to Heck of a Morning Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays at 10 a.m. ET on the MMA Fighting Twitter Spaces. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Tuesday, October 17th, 2023, and it is indeed a heck of a morning. We are live on the NBA fighting Twitter space. You can hear the show, start to finish, in its entirety. on the MMA Fighting Podcasting Network. What's going on, everyone? I am Mike Hack. I hope you are all having a wonderful start to the week. And what a week it shall be,

because after the silliness that went down this past Saturday with the Misfits boxing card, UFC was kind of a pallet cleanser, but we kind of just viewed UFC Vegas 81 as the go-home events for UFC 294. We were just ready for all this stuff to be done so we could get ready for 294. And guess what? It is UFC 294 Fight Week.

We are just a few days away from Islam Makachev versus Alexander Volkanowski to just a few days away from the return of Hamzaa Chamaev, now fighting Kamara Uspen. And the card's pretty damn good. And it's early day MMA, ladies and gentlemen, early day MMA, which makes me so happy. So we will have a watch party on Saturday. It's essentially like the one-year anniversary of the MMA fighting watch party. We started at UFC 280, which was the Abu Dhabi card last year. So this will be a year of the watch party. So I'm very excited.

And it should be a lot of fun. I don't even know where to start with all of this because Edson Barber. was a great, great performance. Dude is a grizzled vet, just came back. Sanique Yusuf had that big first round comes back in Wednesday, UFC, Vegas, anyone. But this ain't the headlines, man. This is not the headlines.

It's not where the headlines are coming from. All the headlines are coming from this prime card event. And we should all collectively just sort of be ashamed of ourselves. This, not that I believe it, but I saw some, I saw some initial reports that it did like 1.4 million pay-per-view buys. And honestly, if that's a number that it actually is, I don't think I would be that surprised,

but it's still sort of odd and eerie to see that number, even if it's real or fake or whatnot. But even seeing that, I thought to myself, yeah, I could see 1.4 million people buying that pay-per-view for $55 and I could see 1.3999 million people being like, what the fuck am I thinking and doing with my life? How did I

get caught up in all of this? Because we all should have known that Logan Paul versus Dylan Danis was going to be one of the worst fights we've ever seen. And we probably should have known that Tommy Fury

versus KSI would be one of the worst fights we've ever seen. Now, I don't want to shit on the entire card because I did watch it. I didn't watch any of the prelims. I saw some of the highlights, but I watched the entire main card. And up until that point where Dylan Dennis and Logan Paul boxed, it actually wasn't bad. Like the Dean, the Great Fight, I forget who we fucks. I don't know any of these people because I'm 40. But that fight was awesome. That was a really fun fight. That was probably the most exciting fight of of the entire weekend in between the two events between that and the UFC the salt poppy fight i know new york's waiting to talk saw poppy slim down looked real good early and then lost to

slim that was fun like it was fun until we got to what people actually paid for and then it was just absolute dog shit it was so bad it was so bad like i'm actually i'm actually mad i'm actually mad i watched it. I'm mad I watched it because it was so bad. And we should have expected it. Somehow Dylan Danis convinced me in some way and a lot of other people that I'm actually going to try. Like, I'm going to try to throw a punch. And I saw something with, I saw some Twitter threads going on and some back and forths. Ben the Bain Davis. Ben the Bane, right? Ben the Bane goes over. in boxes Anderson Silva's son on the most recent misfits card before that one. And yeah, he got bolted.

And he will tell you that as well. He will be the first one to tell you that he got run that night. But he also, like, tried. He threw punches. He at least attempted to have a fist fight. Look, Dylan Dennis did not even attempt to have a fist fight. I think he landed 12 punches and I don't think he threw a single punch in the first round.

I don't think he threw one punch in the first round. It was just so bad. And we knew what he was going to say about all of this. We knew it. I'm the jiu-jitsu dude. I made it all six rounds. He ran away the whole time. Like that's what he was going to say.

And that's exactly what he's saying. I just, I don't know what Dylan Dandis says next. I don't know. Was this good? Even if the fight was bad, like, Dylan Dannis is the reason,

if this does sell 1.4 million pay for you guys, I don't think that's going to be the number, but if it was, Dylan Danis is the reason for it. So he deserves credit for that, but is anyone going to pay $55 to watch Dylan Dennis fight again? Is anyone going to pay $20 to watch Dylan Dennis fight again? It's a big question. Maybe you will. Maybe you will. I came out of that. Just being like, oh, my Lord, stinky. Just super, super stinky. All of it. But I'm so excited at UFC 294 fight week. And let's talk about whatever you want. Let's go. New York Rick is patiently waiting. And it's just an honor and a privilege to have him back here. Good morning, New York, Rick.

Heck of a morning, Mike. I come to you again from the elliptical, so forgive any, like, panting and breaks up breath and all that stuff. You said something very interesting about what I paid $20 to watch Dylan Dennis again. And I've been thinking about, I didn't have an opportunity to say this on the MMMA hour, but I've been thinking about this idea. Of the four fighters, Logan Paul, Dylan Dennis, KSI, Tommy Fury. Of the four fighters that were in the main, the two double main events on Saturday,

if you were a promoter, which one would you rather give money to to headline a card? If you were a fan, which one would you rather see at the top of the bill? And it doesn't have to be boxing. It could be boxing, MMA, whatever it is. Would you give money to see at the top of the bill? my answer is Dylan Dennis even after the stinker of a fight because quite frankly if I'm going to be subjected to any of the four who all obviously can't box to save their lives I'd rather have the one who's going to be interesting in the lead-up and create the excitement about the fight so I'm curious what you think look I get it I get it and yeah Dylan like I said earlier Dylan whatever this does it's going to be successful It's all because of Dylan Dennis. It isn't because of KSI.

I mean, maybe they deserve some credit. KSI put the event on everyone. KSai is a big star. Logan Paul is obviously a big star. But of the 1.4 million people, like 900,000 of those at least were not like, ooh, I got to watch Logan Paul box or I have to watch Tommy Fury box KSI. No, they're like, oh, I want to see. either Dylan Danes, somehow baby-faced Dylan Danis,

beat Logan Paul, let's just see how he does, or if you hated everything that he did, he's going to get his comeuppance. He's going to get his come-uppance. And you know what? He lost and was, it was an embarrassing performance, but I don't know if he got his come-uppance. So if I'm Dylan, I actually don't blame him for talking the way that he is,

but I just don't know if like, I don't know. I guess the answer to my question is like if I'm putting on an event, who of those four would I call the headline? Probably Logan Paul. I think he's the bigger name out of everybody. And yeah, against Dylan, I think Dylan obviously won a lot of the verbal exchanges, won a lot of those moments, et cetera. but I think it's probably Logan.

He'll have it. At worst, you get like somewhat of the WWE machine behind it in some way just because of who he is and because he wrestles in WWE and what did he, what did Logan do in his post fight interview? He put over WWE,

calls out Ray Mysterio for a wrestling, a professional wrestling match. It's probably Logan, Paul. I get why people would say Dylan, but I just don't, how, I don't know how many people are going to be like, yeah, let's give him another chance. Between the pullout with the KSI fight to not pulling out of this fight and then performing the way that he did, I just don't know if people are going to buy it anymore. I will say this.

I want to thank Dylan Danis publicly on this program because, as you know, I was on no bets barred. I emptied the click from a betting perspective on Dillon Dannis fighting. That's what I was, that was, I emptied the clip on it that Dill and Danes would show up. It was at plus 140. And the bet was, will the fight happen? And I knew Dillon would show up. I knew he'd show up. I had faith.

People were still saying even Friday he wasn't going to fight. I had faith. Biggest bet of my life. Biggest bet of my life. was that Dylan would fight. And he did. So I'm happy about that. From a betting perspective,

I had a winning week. I had a winning, even if I lost every other bet, and I lost a lot of them. Dylan Dan is fighting Logan Paul on Saturday was everything. First winning week of my combat betting career since I, like, started doing this.

And it's because Dylan fought. So I give him credit for that. And I thank him for that. But yeah, It was a bad performance. But good for you, Dylan. You got the bag, dude. You got the bag.

And at the end of the day, spend it wisely. But it's probably Logan Paul. It's not KSI. I don't think KSI has got a lot of fans either. And Tommy Fury is just not long for this influencer boxer world at this point. So I'll go Logan, but I understand if you'd say, Dylan. Lee, go ahead. Yeah, what's going on?

Mike. Pretty good. Yeah, the last time I was actually on the show was when Jose Auto was fighting Pedro Munoz. But I just wanted to say, I don't know if I'm the first person to dub it, but let's dub this card, the card of the underdog.

Because I'm thinking that Vogue's going to get a finish. And Ouzna's going to put up a tough fight. I think his experience is going to give Shemey's a lot of problems. I do think Shemez does have the athletic prowl to him compared to Usman. But yeah, I'm just ready for fights. And thanks for having me on. Thanks, man.

Yeah. Volk is interesting. I loved his interview on the MMA hour. It was more. And look, there's still shade. If you listen to Jedbish, you talk about Volkadovsky. There's a part of me that sort of understands where he's coming from. Because the whole thing, the thing that's really turned Jen in regards to Volcanovsky is this

notion that everybody doubt. notes him all the time. And even when people were saying he's the best fighter on the planet, and Jed for the last year or so, has been saying, you could make a case right now that Al Jada Volkanowski is the best fighter we've ever seen from a skill and a talent perspective. And yet, when people are still saying this,

and if you get that from Jed, that's saying something, this whole notion that even when Volk's a mind, this 500 favorite. Oh, everybody doubts me. Everybody was picking against me. All of this. I think that rubs some people the wrong way when that's just not the case. Now, from not being a fighter, you have to find a chip on your shoulder. And Calvin Cater has told me this a million times. Like, even when I really liked the guy and I'm not getting any trash talk from the other side, like, I have to like think of something that gives me that chip. And maybe for Volk, that's what it is.

but I think the fight is more intriguing than the Oliver fight. Do I wish we could get full camps? Do I wish this was December 2024 and this was the scheduled fight? Of course. Of course. But as my best friend Alexander Kaylee said on BTL, and I've come more so on his side with this, when the chance comes to do something, you have to do it.

You have to do it. And if both sides are on board, then go ahead and just run with it because you may not get it again. We may not get Israel Adasania versus Drickus 2. That may never happen. We may never have gotten this rematch

because if Makachev does what he says he's going to do, which he feels like a trip up to welterweight is very possible. And I don't know if this is going to be like, oh, I'm going to try to be a two-division champion. I think he's just going to be a welterweight. then you can't get the Volk rematch.

You could, but it'd just be super weird if Volk's jumping up to 170 to do it. So, yeah, let's do it. And I'm intrigued by it. As far as the co-main event goes, I was more interested in the Costa fight, mostly because Costa is a big, strong, athletic middleweight. And I wanted to see how Hamsat Shamaif could handle

a big, strong, athletic middleweight who is pretty decent on the ground, can strike, and is an absolute dog in a lot of respects. I'm not dogging on the Uspin fight at all. I like it. It's a great fight. And if you could throw a curb ball at me,

this is a pro wrestling move from the UFC because I didn't see Uspin coming from a mile away. I probably should have, but I didn't. I was like, eh, maybe the move Michelle Pereira over, maybe we'll get this guy in there maybe they'll flip some things around maybe we'll do this and then all of a sudden Kamar Usman steps in on short notice and you're like

oh this is really interesting since we've wanted to see this fight for a long time I am I am intrigued by it because I don't know what we're going to get my gut is telling me right now they call me do not call me when I'm doing heck of a morning so

you get the red telephone things my gut is telling me this fight is going to play out on the feet and they're just going to beat the shit out of each other. Like this is going to be a war. I don't think we're going to get like Shamiya Burns level of stuff, but I think it's going to be a fun fight. I honestly think Ushman's best chance to win this fight. And I think that's his goal. I don't think his goal is to go in there and be competitive with Hamzaa Shama.

I think his goal is to go in there and shake up the world because if he goes in there and beats Shemaya, he does exactly that. I honestly think Ushman's best chance to win this fight is to keep it on the feet and try to lull Hamzaa Tchamayev into just a sloppy striking battle. Because if you can get Shamiyev in that place, you can beat him.

And Ushman hits really, really hard. And if Uspin lands his best shot on Shemayev, he could win. He could win. If Uspin gets Sharmov, Shemayev down, can he keep him there? I'm curious about that, especially if it happens late. If Shamiyaa gets Ushman down, he's going to kill him.

He is going to kill him. So I'm curious about that. Can Ushman stay on his feet? Can Ushman avoid being on his back? Because if that happens, it is going to be a rough, rough day for him. Not saying that it wouldn't be a rough day for Shamiya if Uspin gets on top, but we saw what Leon Edwards did and Leon was able to hold Usman on his back

if Hamzok gets him down there he is gonna whoop him so I am intrigued by the fight I really am could it be the day of the dog possibly but fascinating I even sit on our round table with my best friend and Damon

that because one of the questions like does it make the card better I don't think it does but it doesn't make worse and I guess by definition it does make it better because most times when you get short notice replacements in these spots it's just a guarantee

that it's going to be worse it's just a guarantee like we lost Yuri Perhashka Glover to share a two in December we got Jan Blahovitch versus Machimed Ancolaev instead as the new main event and that was one of the worst cards that was just

not a good, it was just bad it was just bad it's very rare when you could replace two huge fights with equally, if not slightly worse, interest levels. But I feel like these even out, because I do think the main event's more interesting. Co-made event, yes, still very interesting. Personally, I wanted to see the cost of a fight for a lot of the reasons that I said earlier. But boy, you could have done a lot worse than this.

And I give the UFC and all of the fighters, not just who has been in Volk, I give Hamzaq credit, and I give Islam-Machachachad credit, and I don't see him getting enough credit for this. In fact, I think he should get more credit than Volk should, than Volk's getting. Honestly, I, it's a whole different fight for him. Like, Islam is about to cruise into Abu Dhabi and work Charles Oliver again. And now he gets a whole different fight on 10 days' notice.

He could have said no. He could have used this as a negotiation. thing. But no, he's like, no, I'm the champ. Let's go. If it's Vol, let's go. And it's pretty, you don't see that. You just don't see that anymore. So I dig it. As you can see, I'm really excited to talk about UFC 294, because I'm, I'm pumped. Boating for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Ugh, what? Sounds like Ojo time. Play Ojo, great idea.

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I mean, I did too. And I'm not even getting reimbursed for it. Oh, you, yo, I thought you were getting reimbursed. No, I was about to say you can. I was like, you know what? I'm just going to do it. Because I don't trust, I'm not going to lie. I tried to stream it.

but I couldn't figure it out. I couldn't figure it out. So I was like, fuck it. I'm just going to buy it. Like, rough scene. Yeah. Yeah.

I bought it too, but at least I had regional pricing, so it's about $15 for me. So that's a lot better, a lot more digestible. Yes, it definitely is. But I had a good time watching it, actually. But that's mostly because I saw, I mean,

I thought I have $15 for a circus, and I got a circus because I got in right as the tactic. boxing match was going on. And that was a lot of fun, I gotta say. I was impressed. Of course the rest of the card. No, The Great was also good and the old puppy fight that he lost was also really good. It was just the fights that actually were the ones you were paying for, they were just shit, and that's just what it is.

Anyways, I basically only came on to talk about that and quickly just the tag team matches, give me more of them. That's my whole point about that. And then if I had sent in the pick of Edson Babosa versus Ilya to Poria, it would not have been read on air because that is the most horrible pick AK has ever made. And he stands by it in my replies. And I'm just, I can't. This is just horrendous. And I'm glad that you called him out for it live on air as well.

because that is just oh i can't even believe that he said it uttered the words um so yeah that that's all for me actually it was just a little story about about the mistress cards and then just calling out AK once again see yeah yeah that was that was a stunning pick from AK it really was and it hurt my soul to to save my piece but to be fair AK has called me out on many of my picks as well and it's okay. We're not, you know, not every pick is for all people.

I've made some stinky ones to. I've, I've delivered the doo-do as well on that program. So, if I call you out for doo-doo or AK calls you out for do-do,

don't take it personally, because we've both done it too. But, man, when AK has conviction on certain fights, he somehow, has this way of willing them into existence. So maybe,

wouldn't that be, how friggin crazy would it be? If they booked like Holloway or Volt versus Toporia in January and like two weeks before the fight, one of them goes down and they do an interim title fight and the only featherweight available to take it is that's a Barbosa,

we'll never, it would be the flex of all flex. from my best friend. Let's go to Nick. What's up, Nick? Ask a question, really. What sort of reach advantage is a husband giving up? It's a good question. Let me pull that up.

I don't think it's, honestly, I don't think it's a ton. Let me pull it up. Let's look at the statistics here. There we go. It's not coming up. Son of a biscuit. Bear with me. I will find it.

I have my ways. All right. So Kamar Ustin, a 76-inch reach advantage. Hamsat Shemai F. Ousband has the one-inch reach advantage. And Yusman usually does. Usman usually does in his Walter rate fights as well. So I'm not really surprised by the numbers.

there. But it's just the physicality of Shemayev, man. He's just dude is a horse. It's an interesting fight. I could be reading this one completely wrong. I really could. I just feel like if Shemayev is able to get

a hold of Usman and lock his hands together, Ousman's going to get chucked around. And if Shemai gets him on his back, it's going to be a problem. But I think these two are going to get in there and chuck them. I really think this is going to be a super fun fight.

I don't think it's going to be a fence war, a fence clinch battle. I really don't. I think they're going to start chucking at each other. I really think, and that's why I feel like Usman's best chance to win

is to keep it standing and just force Shamiyev to get reckless on the feet. That's Usman's best chance to win this fight, I think. Let's go to soon. that we're going with soon Sony? Are you there?

Hello there. I just got to unmute. Yes, hello. Wow, it's an absolute pleasure actually to be online. I've been yeah, I've been listening to heck of a morning between the links and all of these shows

for the better two years or three years now and never thought to be plug in and come to speak. So yeah, I really appreciate and really enjoy your shows and really look up to you as a host, Mike. And since I'm doing a podcast myself, so I'm always asking myself,

what would Mike Heck do if I'm pulling up a show? So, yeah, much appreciate. Anyway, ask better questions. Ask better questions to yourself. Not what would I do? Okay. Would you do? Well, yeah.

Well, I've got two questions actually today. with this first being with the Volk versus Makachev and it's starting to seem to me a little bit that Makachov is becoming like the Volkovsky is to Max Holloway in a way that he's trying to really beat the guy but you know I don't know it's only going to be the second time they meet but

Wolk seems to me like a really competitive guy and really determined to achieve his goals and everything so So yeah, I wish him best of luck, but just wondering if that becomes kind of like this, trying to chase this one guy who has beat me and then, you know, can always end up backwards as well. The second thing, the same card involved, Usman and Volkovsky being sort of, yeah, swapped in last minute. is it fairly safe to assume that they were probably compensated generously for coming in as well? That's all for me.

Thanks and have a good day. Thank you. And thank you for the kind words. Compensated? Yeah, I would assume so. I would assume so, especially Volk. So, yeah, I assume they got big checks. Should it be more?

Probably. Should everybody have gotten the pay bump for this? I hope so. Just not sure if that's the case. And then to, you know, your comparison about the hallway Volk to Volk Makachchev, maybe. But again, like the situations are so different here. Because they just fought in February.

I don't think this fight really was on, I mean, I'm not saying it was off of everybody's radar, but I think people were like, okay, I definitely want to see these two guys fight again after the February fight. It's best fight of the year to this point. And I think people wanted it. I think people were ready for it. But it was, but it was I make the high school girlfriend

analogy a lot. Like you meet the woman in high school. Like you feel like you got your love and like I'm going to marry this woman someday, but I don't want to marry her right now. I'm going to come back to this. That's kind of what this fight was to be like, all right, we don't need to do it right to second.

But a year and a half from now, when I've gotten some of these other things out of my system, we're going to come back to this. And it's going to be magical. So that's what I was hoping for. December 2024, we get the rematch. And that's it. But this is what we're getting. And now's the time.

So Volk gets the call. And it's really interesting hearing Volk's reaction to all of this. You know, we get a lot of the classic Volk stuff. But just hearing him say, when the phone rang and I got the opportunity, I immediately smiled. that's one thing. But the thing that really interests me the most is like, hey, yeah, I know I have another fight kind of locked and loaded for January, but I don't want to wait that long. This is like perfect.

I remember just saying, you know, January just seems like such a long time. And then as I'm getting that out of my system and as I'm having that internal dialogue of myself, the phone rings and this opportunity comes along. So pretty crazy, man. Pretty crazy. but I just want to be really clear about this fight and something that I know we're going to see and it's going to piss me off beyond belief.

If Alexander Volcanovsky is not going to use the short notice thing as an excuse, neither should you. And I don't think he's going to. I don't think he's going to. He is coming in and he's saying all the right things. I was excited for this. I was ready for this.

I kind of had a feeling this would happen. I've been training. I'm ready to fight this guy. Short notice don't mean nothing. I'm going to go in there and finish him. I don't want to hear any bullshit about, well, is on beat him, but it only because it was short notice. No, that doesn't work here.

It doesn't work. You can't use that. He said yes. He signed the contract. Volk saying the right things. He's not going to use this as an excuse. You can't either. If he's not going to, you cannot either.

Do not not respect Islam Makachev if he goes out there just 50-44s him on Saturday. This isn't a, well, you only did it because it's a short notice. No, it's not. So I want that left behind. If Volk isn't going to say it, I don't think it's fair.

Anybody else says it either. Let's go to Kat. Morning, Mike. Can you hear me? yep i got you how are you good how are you doing it's pleasure to be back um i have a couple of questions i'm i'm sorry if somebody asked this already i came in kind of late today unfortunately regarding hamzat and usman do you think because of hamzat's inactivity if usman manages to pull you know do the unthinkable for some that it would put a huge stop to hamzat's type train you know he hasn't been fighting as much people doubt him after the war with gilbert a lot

um and usman you know it's not to take away from Usman, he's one of the most fearless champs, but he is, you know, getting older. So if he was to pull that off on Hamza, do you think that would put a stark stop to Hamzot's hype train? That's one. And two, I would like to headbutch you because what you said about Charles, uh, that, uh, Islam would steamroll him again. I got to disagree. You guys got to remember mental game and positive momentum is a huge thing. Islam got the damn title shot off of Bobby fucking green, y'all. And, uh, you know, Charles. had to go through a lot more adversity to get there.

And I feel like losing your, you know, belt off a half a pound. It just messes with the mental game. I'm not making excuses for the guy, though. He did get steamrolled. I love him, but he got steam rolled. But don't y'all doubt my boy, y'all will respect Charles. But that is all.

Thank you for having me up here, Mike. Let me just say something to you right here. That was incredible. Thank you. Thank you for the promo. Fantastic. Look, I'm never, like, you'll never see me disrespect. Charles Oliver. Go back to the heck of

a morning leading into UFC 280. What did I say? Who did I pick? I picked Charles Olivera. Even though I knew everything on paper told me that Isle Mokachev is going to do exactly what he did. And I was just like,

I can't, I just can't pick against Charles anymore until he loses the chaos factor he brings to the table. But just guys, just sometimes matchups are just really bad for you. And Islam, by all accounts, is just a really bad matchup for Charles. Now, do I think that Charles would have been more competitive this time around?

Yeah, I do. I think you would have been a little bit more competitive. But at the end of the day, it's just a bad fight for him. It's just a bad fight. He's got Charles, Charles has all the records for submissions and all that. I get it. he's very solid off of his back. And it's dangerous off his back.

But against not high-level top position grapplers like Islam-Makhachev, nothing Charles could do off his back is going to do anything to Islam. He has no threat off of his back to submit Islam-Machach at all. And that was like a big narrative heading in. Well, if Islam gets him down, Charles is going to lock up a triangle or an arm bar. I'm like, I don't think that's true. So, yeah, look at what Charles, what Charles Oliver has done over the last three years, it's really incredible. Really incredible.

We were talking about, I mean, just think of how we were looking at Charles Oliver heading into UFC 280. That if he had beat his on Macha Chef, we're talking about his run being better than Habibs. And there was a real case for that. and you don't know what's crazy about Charles Oliver after that? We didn't see him fight again for like eight months. Supposed to fight in May. Doesn't happen. Fights in June.

You want to know what happened between losing the belt and now? Charles Oliver is a bigger star now than he was then. Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? He's a bigger star now than he was. when he lost the belt and got finished by Islam Makachov. That's friggin insane. And that kind of leads into your other question.

If Hamza loses, will the same thing be true? I still think the intrigue's going to be there. Will it kill his momentum? Will the hype train be derailed forever? No. Because I still think, I actually think it makes him a little more interesting. And I'm going to bring AK in a second, but AK and I have been on the same page with the,

Gilbert Burns fight from Jump Street. A lot of people felt Hamzat lost the momentum from the Gilbert Burns fight, that people viewed him, oh, he's not as good as we thought he was. I took way more away from that than him just finishing Kevin Holland in the first round. We realized that even on a bad night, when he's kind of lured into a game plan that he wasn't supposed to have, brought into a fight, he wasn't into a style of fighting. he wasn't going to implement on that night, but still found a way to win

and got hurt pretty bad and had to dig real deep. I learned more about Hamza Tshamayev in that fight than any other fight he's had. And if he loses to Kamar Ushman, we're going to learn a lot more about that man. How does he bounce back from a loss, especially one like that?

Because that's going to be a tough one. He's going to have a real rough week. but if they bring him back and he fights like Marvin Vittori or something in his next fight, it just annihilates him. We're going to forget all about it. That's the beauty of the sport. You can make it back. It just depends on how you handle the loss.

You handle it with class. And then you overcome that adversity. People love a comeback story no matter who it is. So, no, I don't think it kills his momentum altogether. But yeah, it's going to have a comeback. a rough week. That's for sure. My best friend. Hello. Never mind. A.K., I don't know what's going on to your internet. Or is this somebody else? Oh, maybe we got A.K. All right, Daniel, you go first. A.K., you mute. Hey, I can be the best friend for today. Thank you, Mike. I appreciate you bringing

me on. Yeah. That's an introduction. No, all jokes. Just keeping it quick here. I know you're a betting man more talking about these lines. What do you think about this over under one and a half round? for the Hamzat-Uzman fight. Plus 150, I believe. Last I looked at over one and a half, I think it's about minus 190 for the under. What would you take out of those two? Thanks, Mike.

I don't see it on Draf Kings. What I would assume it's probably going to be around there. I'm going under. I'm going to go under in that fight. Either Usman, either Shamiab's going to put him on his back and just kill him, or Ousman's going to catch him with something and knock him out. So once it drops on Draft Kings, I'll probably take a closer look at it.

But I think it's, I don't, I don't think this fight's going to the cards. I really don't. I think it's got to get finished pretty quickly. So I will probably go with the under, depending on the line once it drops on draft Kings, but I like under. All right, I.K. Hello, can hear me. Hello, my best friend.

Thank you, Dan, for filling in on the best friend duties. That was fantastic. God forbid, Mike, should something happen to me, and I won't, I'm going to live for 100 years. But you have, it's good to know, you have a replacement best friend just in case. So thank you, Dan. I had to step in, Mike, to defend myself for the Barbosa, Ilyatho Pira pick. Toc, I love you. Tuck, I appreciate the replies, as always.

Appreciate the criticism. So, you know, it's, I kind of explained out, no, but I do think I rambled a little bit. I didn't quite get to the heart of it. So I had more time to think about it after. Now I don't have a counter to If you know if they want to set up If Volkanowski beats Makachev and leaves the featherweight division for the foreseeable future And they need a main event for you know

UFC 297 in Toronto Max Holloway A Tupore is a very logical pick But I think I explain like for me I am banking on I think Machetech is going to win again I think Volcanovsky does return to featherweight So I don't want to see an inter I like to avoid interim titles where possible, even though I get at him jumping up between the two,

you know, jumping between the two weight classes seems to precipitate the, you know, an interim title. I get it. I just think it's avoidable. And I think Volcanovsky winner, should he lose, would still be ready to compete again within first quarter of of

2024. And I know he said he wants to fight Toporio, but I'm also thinking if he loses, he's probably not hopping in on the Toronto card. So I was juggling a few things here, but primarily my idea is like, I don't think Toporia is going to headline that card anyway without Volcanovsky. And I just want to avoid the scenario

where Max Holloway beats Toporia, which is very possible. I know Topori would be favored. I think we'd all pick Toporia. But there is the possibility he beats him. And then we're possibly setting up Max Volkanowski four unless yes, Volk wins and has left the division. But I really just want to avoid that scenario. but I get it. I get it.

So I think DePore is not going to headline anyway. I think you have a nice fight with him Barbosa. I just want to see him Barbosa fight. I think that would be sick. It's not like my favorite pick. I think, again, if people listen to the show, I had like three other options that probably made a lot more sense for Barbosa.

But I still just don't think it's ludicrous that DePrippa or Maboboza could happen. And if Barbosa beat DePorea, yes, that would also suck in a different way, but at least you get a fresh matchup, should a Vokonowski still be the champion and opponent for him? because I just don't, again, we're not getting, I just don't want to get Holloway and Volcanovsky again.

I think I, look, I'm with you. I'm with you. I don't think there is no one who wants to see that fight less than I do. We've seen it. And after the, I thought Volk won every single fight. I thought he won the first one clearly. Second one was really close. It's one of the most underrated fights in the history of the UFC.

It doesn't get enough credit. but I've watched that fight a million times and there's not one time I've watched that fight where I was like, you know what? I was wrong. Max Holloway once. I just don't feel that way. And then the third one was just a pillar to post asswopin

from Volk. And that's like everything we needed to see. After that third fight, I mean, that was one of the best performances in a title fight I've ever seen in that fight from Volk. So I just don't think that is enticing at all to Volcanovsky. The third fight wasn't enticing to Volkadovsky, but he was just like, all right, fine, I'll do it.

And then he worked him. So I get where you're coming from from that aspect, but what if this is the one? What if this is the time where Holloway has found his match? And then the Teporia fights even bigger. But who knows? I mean, again, it's hard to even say anything until we watch. watch what happens Saturday. Volka could go in there and like punch Makachchev in the face

and knock him out in 45 seconds. Like I don't think that's going to happen, but like that could happen. And then it's like, oh, shit. Maybe Volk can fight in January. And then we don't need to worry about any of this stuff. So yes, I, you're still my best friend, A.K. Don't love the pick. To me, you've had better.

But I understand your reasoning behind it. and it's more so for the we just don't want to see a fourth five between Vulcan Holloway and I get it I totally get it uh Justin with a Y hello hello how do I sound wonderful okay so I have a couple things one the Tony Ferguson situation I think we should go back in time and go back to when I suggested Jay Ellis fight him I think that would be much much more appealing to everyone involved And also I wanted to know if you think Hamzat versus Kamaru is worthy of five rounds and if you would want to see it even after the Gilbert and Bilal fight. Is it worthy of five rounds? Of course. Is it worthy of five rounds on less than two weeks notice? Yes, but not ideal. And this almost this whole situation of the fight happening on 10 days notice. and all that in being a three-rounder, it actually makes it more interesting to me

because I think the fight's going to be a lot more fun as opposed to, all right, each guy's had 12 weeks to prepare for each other, the overthinking and all that. I think things get a little more interesting here. I think things get a little more chaotic and wild and wacky. And that's why I like this fight. That's why I like this fight.

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Thanks. Just wanted to ask a couple questions on the card and then just kind of the suggestion for Barbosa that I don't think I've heard yet, but I haven't heard all the weekend coverage yet. But for the first thing, who do you think is smarter for taking the shot? Do you think it's Usman or do you think it's Volk? I know this would be Volk's second chance to do double champ status. I think that's a little risky. But I honestly think Usman's a genius for taking this.

You don't have to go up against a middleweight first, and you might still get that middleweight title shot after, or you will, like Dana said. And then also it's kind of a good step up, because if it's not, he does have that welterweight back down. He can go beat a top contender and then be right back in the title picture. And then I just wanted to see what you thought about Barbosa and Holloway. I know Holloway is kind of getting saved for Toronto. But I think that's just kind of like a Korean zombie type fight where I think the fans would just love that, maybe put it in, maybe try to put it closer in Hawaii, maybe, or even like Brazil or something. Just wanted to get your opinions on those.

It's fine. Wouldn't be my first choice. I mean, Holly just did it. Like, he just fought zombie. And at this point, I mean, if Holly wants it, cool, then do it. Just doesn't seem like this really on his radar right now. I definitely want to see that fight at some point. I just don't think now is the time for it.

So that'd be interesting. I would rather see Holloway fight Charles Oliva. Like that's what I want to see. At this point, Holloway Gaichi is like the fight I have to see at some point. That is like the fight. If there's one fight, then I need to see over the next two years. If I could book one, that's it. Gachie McGregor is up there as well.

I mean, Gaichy versus anybody really hits the mark. But if I can't get Gaichi Holloway, then give me Oliver a Holloway. That's the fight I want to see. We didn't really get it before. Let's do the rematch. Do it at 55. And let's do it. That's what I want.

I would rather see that. And I completely agree with you on the Ustman side. This was a no-brainer for him. That phone ringing in them saying, hey, let's go. very smart on his part because he was pretty much out of the welterweight title picture altogether

until all this happened like Kamara has to do something he never thought he would have to do he has to root for Colby Covington to have any chance of getting a welterweight title shot but now everything changes

and now he is in favor with the UFC if he goes out and loses so what Usman's in a great spot. And if Colby wins, they could still do Usen versus Colby, just because Usman did them a solid. And Colby could very well just call for Usman,

because I know Colby wants it to run that back. Colby feels like he won the second fight. It feels like he got cheated in the first one. I don't agree with that. But that second fight was really competitive and really close. and I know Colby would love to have that one back. So I think this is brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

This is as good as it gets for Usman right now. This is as good as it gets. His really only other realistic option right now is that he fights Shafkat if he beats Wonderboy or he fights Bilal Muhammad. And Usman doesn't really gain a ton from beating Bilal Muhammad. And it's a really tough fight for him. That's a tough fight.

So this is great. This is actually brilliant on his part. Absolutely brilliant. Jay Mack. Oh, hey, Mike. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay, perfect. So I got a question for you.

There's four fights I'm considering betting, and I want to get your opinion on which one you think has the best value. So there's Javid Basharat versus Victor Henry. Basharat's a minus 550. and then Victor Henry is a plus 400. And then I'm thinking like, I want an underdog here, so that's what we're going for. Then we got Tim Elliott, who's a plus 350

against Mohamed Makayev. He's a minus 500. And then, of course, you got Karmaro Uzman plus 220. And then Kazimaiov is a minus 275. and then finally got islam makachev minus 265 and alexander volkanowski plus 210 out of those four fights which do you think has the best value and i'll go off the year on that thanks mike hmm from a dog perspective maybe usman maybe i'll tell like like just looking at the cards right now um for like dog upside. I think Abu

is Itar, plus 170 has upside. Like, Srederike Dumas is a minus 205 favorite. And look, Sedrike is a fun guy, but is he a minus 205 favorite? I don't know, man. I feel like Javid

Basharat, it's actually kind of puzzling to see him as a minus 535 right now. But I think, I just think he's that good. And I, people know much I revere and respect Victor Henry. I think Javid Basharad is is for real, for real.

And I love this fight a lot. I'm glad it's happening. I think Muhammad Yahya at Doggods is very intriguing at plus 130. Actually, the Tim Elliott line's not bad. We're going to learn a lot about Muhammad Makaya from this fight. I don't love a lot of them. I mean, maybe Elliot. I think he's just so chaotic.

I like Mouin Gaffarov at plus 170. I think that's not a bad line to take a shot at. Yeah. Probably Usen. Usen's enticing at plus 225. I don't love it. I feel like Shemlyev's going to win, but I think Ustman should probably be,

that should be lined a little bit closer. All right, let's keep rolling. We're going to go rapid fire here. Just want to get some of the newbies in here. Absualia, go ahead. Joe, what's up, man? I have two things just want to ask. Firstly, what are your predictions for Maham Makhive and Tim Elliott?

How do you see that fight playing out? Personally, for me, I see Mokaiv taking advantage of his grappling. If he can get on the ground, I think he has a chance to win. The other thing I want to talk about is about Vulcan Islam. I just want to briefly touch on the first fight. I was watching Dimitri Johnson's live show yesterday where he was breaking down the fight, and he brought up a lot of interesting points

from his extraordinary fighter's IQ, you know, breaking down that fight. He mentioned round two as a very close round, and I was watching that very closely myself. I disagree with him on the fact that Volk possibly won the round because to me it was very clear Islam won that round just due to the fact he got some very good clinches, he got a few good knees to the body,

he also outstrike Volk, and he also managed to get him on the ground. Yvot Valk did a very good job at, you know, pace pressuring Islam and keeping a lot of good distance. He fumbled up. And also, you know, seeing Demetri's analysis of how Valk was able to counterpunch Islam, because Islam was, you know, obviously they're both using the same, like, dominant in how much of the right hand and twisting the same way. But what Islam did was he would rotate with his right hip and, you know, right leg to set up the punch. but Volk would, you know, obviously a master of changing stance,

he would purposely let Islam lead with him with the right hook to, you know, try and catch his left, but then he will, you know, it was, I think during round three, he just, you know, literally tried to, what is it, like, wobble Islam with the right punch after. You know, and I also, like, with that analysis, watching round three and five, which was ugly Volk's first round, especially round fire, I don't understand where this narrative came from from MMA fans that Valk only won that round because of the last one minute. When I was watching that entire round, he was outpacing Islam.

He was literally on fucking Godmode, just brutalizing that motherfucker. He kept putting pressure, optical control. He even managed to handle the scrambles well concerning the fact it was the fifth round. And when you were facing a competitor like Islam, who's amazing at that Brazilian, judo samba technique is very very and difficult to do that and volk literally ushered through that very well now why i'm mentioning this because with the second fight upcoming um obviously there's a lot of stake here i think volk has a lot of upsides and downside equally like his upside uh he has nothing to lose from this fight but he also obviously he's not exactly in camp shape he is in shape but then

he's also come off an injury so i'm just curious to see you know things like the hydration clause, you know, the last minute time traveling. I'm sure, you know, it's really hard to adjust to that time zone with maybe at most being there for about seven to eight days. You know, and Islam obviously has the adventure of the hydration

clause now. So I think that might take an effect on how his cardio work throughout the fight. I'm really curious to see, man. Like, I really hope Woke wins. But if Islam wins, I wouldn't mind it. I think it's also good for the lightweight division to move on. We need some new

proper 155 but if Volk wins I'm really curious to see if the UFC is willing to do this fight eventually at UFC 300 or down the line later next year thanks man have a great day it's going to be a great fight

it's going to be a great fight I think Mahamahev's going to beat Tim Elliott but it's going to be competitive it's going to be close I don't think we get a maybe we'll get a finish I don't know I think it's to be a fight where Mahiaf almost finishes Elliot in the first round

has a really good second round But Elliot is a moment in the second round that kind of changes the tide. And then McLeiff just kind of battles through it and wins round three. So yeah, that's what I think. It's going to be a good fight. All right. Let's keep rapid fire going. Go ahead, mayonnaise face McFlanigan.

Okay, didn't go through. CV. C.V. Go ahead. Yo, Mike. Just two quick ones for me. Not really a hot take, but is Middleweight the most intriguing division right now? just because obviously we got a lot of calls here

everybody's hype for the Usman she may have a fight regardless who wins and if they do get the title shot against Strickland I think both fights would be intriguing in their own way and even if Usman loses and he goes back to wealth weight like you know that was nice

he moved up for one fight and obviously you got like a bunch of killers in middleweight I mean you still got Whitaker there you got DDP and you got like some upcoming guys like Joe Pfeiffer. You got bow nickel lurking there too. So just to get your thoughts on that. And on the prelims, like, what's the low-key-banger?

And why is the Trevor Peak fight the correct answer? Thanks. Low-key-banger. It's probably Basharad Henry. That fight just fights is super fun. I think honestly, and look, I really, I'm going to say this answer just because I'm putting positive jujuwa into the universe.

Okay? And I know it's kind of cheap because it's the featured fight, I believe. But I'm actually going to go with Magamenekelai of Johnny Walker. Nobody is talking about this fight. Nobody. These guys potentially could be fighting for a title shot

at 205. Obviously, Jamal Hill is the dude if he's ready but if he's not ready one of these two guys could be fighting for the belt in their next fight. It's very possible and yet

no one's talking about this fight does this have potential to be a absolutely horrific fight you bet your ass it does but I kind of feel like Angolaip is not going to be that guy anymore

and I kind of feel like He can't. This dude, Magamenekelaev is probably the best 205 in the world. I would pick Magamette Ancolaev against pretty much everybody. I would pick him against Uri. I would pick him against Alex. I would pick him against Jamal Hill. I would pick him against pretty much everybody.

But he's just not fun. He hasn't been fun in a while. And I think he's starting to realize that ain't just about winning, you gotta be fun too, especially with some of these absolutely chaotic murderers at 205. So I think the fights actually get to deliver. And no one's talking about it. It's frigging insane.

And those two are not going to make a single headline at all this week because all eyes are going to be on Shemayef and Usman in the top two fights, as probably it should be. Is middleweight the most intriguing division of the sport? No, but it's up there. It's in a much better place that it was a year ago in terms of intrigue. I actually, I mean, I was with Chris Wyden for a lot of the day yesterday and we actually talked about this and yeah, he's pretty intrigued by that as well.

Sean Strickland's the champion. There's so many different doors open now than there were when Izzy was the champ. So, yeah, super fun. Uh, Willie. Go ahead. What's going on, Mike? How you doing? Good.

Uh, just a few things. So first of all, you were saying a lot of people aren't talking about Oncolaev and Walker. I think that might be the underdog of the week. Um, Ancoliive doesn't deal well with leg kicks and he usually resorts to his wrestling is like a, a last resort in Walker's huge frame. We could see him, trap him against the fence and the clinch and just rain down those like Paul Craig type elbows that he, he just put him away with.

But another thing is a lot of dames have been thrown out for Max Holloway in January, but it's pretty obvious he's going to be the backup opponent. I think Alexander Volcanovsky turns around win or lose. Why not make him and Al Jermaine Sterling to co-main event of that? And if Ilya or Volk can't fight, then make that the main event against Ilya for the interim title. And then just the last thing. I've also heard some talks about 298 taking place in Arizona,

and a talk for that card would be Bo Nickel and Joe Pfeiffer. Thoughts on that? I've heard nothing about $2.98 in Arizona. Not saying that won't happen, but I've heard nothing about that. I wonder if they're going to just go back to

Australia again, which would be kind of interesting. But if Volk's fighting in January and Izzy's not fighting, than kind of a tough sell for being honest. Holly Sterling is very interesting. I just don't know where Holloway's mind is at right now. Not Halloway.

Sterling's mind is at right now, whether he wants to fight at 35 or go to 45. But to me, if he goes to 45, Holloway is the guy. There's nobody else that makes sense for him. At least if you're from a Sterling perspective. Because there is a real world where the UFC could just be like,

nah, dude, you're going to go ahead and fight Mobs are a boy. Win or lose in his next fight. Like, they could just do that. It's very possible. But if you're out, Joe, you go all in on the Holloway fight. Like, that should have been his plan from Jump Street.

This whole thing of, well, I'm going to try to get this rematch. Zero chance he's getting that rematch. He's never fighting Sean O'Malley again unless he wins the featherweight title. Unless he wins the featherweight title, and Sean goes up to chase. him for the featherweight title to do the two division shit he ain't fighting now joe again he's not going to do it so if it's all about the rematch that's how you get your rematch and

there's no other way you get it so i like that idea i like that idea i don't think it happens as soon as january but i like it uh four corner sports then yvm z and then i got to go go ahead four corner sports all right didn't go through all right why vm's take us home i gotta go hi hey mike ike of mooring quick a quick question for you um uh jake paul announced that he was going to fight on december 15th do you think it's going to be against mike perry and two um do you think audissania is holding out to fight to see the uh pera outcome thanks so much um i think he's holding out no i think he i think he needs time away from the sport he needs to leave

leave the sport for a while. He needs to leave the sport for a while. He's got things with his personal life. He's got to address. Dude has been just engulfed in all of this for so long. He needs a break from it. He needs a break from it. So I respect the hell out of him for realizing that.

And he needs to get himself right before he gets anything else right. So I don't think he's holding off for anything. I think after the Strickland loss and after, you know, we saw the drunk driving charge and all that, I know that that doesn't define him. It's something people are going to give him shit about. But look, I've said this a million times, and I said it after he lost to Sean Strickland.

People have kind of turned on Izzy. And it's the whole pro wrestling narrative. We can't miss you if you don't leave. We cannot miss you if you do not leave. And especially in this sport, absence makes the heart grow fonder. Look at what it did to Colby. I mean, people were just kind of done with Colby. And then he leaves for a year.

No one even hears from him. Like he was like, he said nothing. He said nothing for a year outside of doing like sponsored content. and then he just walks on the scale in March, in London. And everyone's like, oh, shit, Colby's here. And people went crazy for it. And then he did interviews and people kind of went back to how they felt about Colby. But you kind of get where I'm getting at.

I think he just kinds of hit me to hit the refresh button at this point. And I think he'll find his way in a title fight no matter what. Like he comes back and probably fights for the belt. so that's what I think and unfortunately I forget oh Jake Paul who's Jake gonna fight God Mike Perry would be the best

I hope it's Mike Perry I doubt it is I doubt it is I don't know who I honestly it's not KSI I don't think I think they would make a bigger deal out of that will it be Nate

I don't think he'll do the Nate rematch I don't know who he's gonna fight let me look it up I think they put out odds on it. Let me see. We don't even know where the fight's happening yet, so that's part of it. Sports spinning AG released odds for 14 fights is the possible next opponent for Paul, setting KSI is the clear favorite at plus 200.

I mean, that honestly, that is the only fight that makes sense here. For real, that's the only fight that makes sense. Derek Brunson, it plus 300. Dylan Danes plus 500, Tommy Ferry, plus 600, Mike Perry plus 800. Mazadol plus 1,200. Won't be Mazadol. Look at all these lines.

KSI, Derek Brunson, Dylan, Dennis, Tommy Ferry, Perry, Mazadol, Delahoya. McGregor, Alvarez, Mayweather. Pac-Man Jones. Jesus Christ. Steeping? Logan Paul and Mike Tyson? Golly.

I honestly have no idea. I have no idea. who he's going to fight. I hope it's somebody good. I kind of want to see the Tommy Fury fight again. But KSI makes all the sense of the world. And then we can just kind of stop the influencer boxer stuff.

Like I feel like that's the last one we need to see. And then we can just be like, all right, you're either going to be a boxer or not. But I honestly have no idea. Derek Brunson's interesting. Well, like, will anybody care? You know what they should do? is throw fucking Phil Haas in there.

Phil Haas's been talking some greasiness. I don't know if Phil still has UFC contract or not. Phil Haas would be fun. Wouldn't. I mean, I don't, it draws a little better than Brunson because Phil will talk. We'll see. They should just get back in there.

Why the hell not? Get another bag? Even if it's the same outcome, it gives a shit. There you go. All right, I got to go, guys. Thank you so much. Screenshoting Panda, JSTAT,

Ani, boom, there you go. Thursday show, you three jumped a lot. But appreciate you all. We'll be back Thursday, 10 a.m. Eastern, we'll do it again. You guys may have seen the announcement. New show coming to M.A. fighting, some new content. It's called Swing Rounds. Playing golf with fighters.

Playing golf, having some chats. Chris Wyden, first guest, had a lot of fun. it was a long-ass day I'd wake up at like 2.45 in the morning 3.30 drive out to his neck of the woods and

I was just exhausted man and I played like shit I played so bad I was just exhausted played the worst round of golf I played in like three years and you'll see it it's so I played so bad

why I've been just why I've been playing pretty rock solid Wyman's cousin played with us another friend of his played with us really good guys it was just a lot of fun so not sure when that's going to drop I think we're going to start

the editing process on that next week after 294 but yeah it's going to be an ongoing series this is the first one I shot it all by myself which is something I've learned I cannot do again because I need to get a camera person to join us for this it's just impossible to do it all

but learned a lot. It's going to be a fun little series. And a lot of fighters, a lot of people in and around the sport, very interested in participating. And we're going to get them all involved at some point. So stay tuned for that. Thank you all. See you Thursday.

Have a heck of a morning, everybody.