MMA Fighting - HOAM | Is It Do-Or-Die For Darren Till At UFC 282?

Episode Date: December 9, 2022

Darren Till returns to the octagon for the first time in well over a year when he faces Dricus Du Plessis at UFC 282. With just one victory in five appearances, is Till in a must-win situation on Saturday night in Las Vegas? On an all-new edition of Heck of a Morning, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck discusses what is at stake for Till against Du Plessis, and how the one-time title challenger matches up. Additionally, listener questions include Paddy Pimblett at the UFC 282 press conference, if a fight between Pimblett and Ilia Topuria would make sense next regardless of what happens on Saturday, where the winner of the matchup between Topuria and Bryce Mitchell could go at 145, the Bellator 289 main card compared to the UFC's, and more. You can listen live to Heck of a Morning Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays at 10 a.m. ET on the MMA Fighting Twitter Spaces. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You can hear the show in its entirety. shortly thereafter on the MMA fighting podcasting network. I am Mike Heck. Thank you for joining us an exciting time in the world of MMA. We got Bellator 289 tonight. The highly anticipated interim bantamite title fight between Rafihan Stotz and Danny Sabatello. We also have a women's flyweight title fight,

Liz Karmouche versus Giuliano Velasquez, too. We have the other semifinal fight of the Bantamate Grand Prix between Magamed, Maga Madoff, and Pachi Mix. Tremendous fight. And then tomorrow, it's UFC 282 time. Final pay-per-view event of the year for the Ultimate Fighting Championship. A new light heavyweight champion is scheduled to be crowned in the main event between Jan Bojovich and Magamette and Kaliath.

We'll see the return of Patty the Batty Pimblitz. His pay-per-view debut for the Ultimate Fighting Championship taking on Jared Gordon. We got Darren Till versus Drickus Duplice. We got Santiago Ponziadibio versus Alex Baroto. And we have maybe the best fight of the entire weekend kicking off the main card in the featherweight division between Iliotiporia and Bryce Mitchell. The prelims have some fun fights, some fun storylines as well. A lot to be excited about if you are an MMA fan. And that's why we are here on this Friday.

We got Wayans coming up at noon Eastern, if memory serves me correctly. my man AK is in the space. He'll be donning the hosting chair. It's his favorite thing. And I would never take that away from him. And I'm excited to see what happens today, what happens tomorrow. And then, of course, tomorrow night,

once the main card begins, probably about 10, 15 minutes before. We will go live on the MMA fighting YouTube channel. I'll be off to New York. First thing tomorrow morning for the UFC 282 watch party. Yes. myself, G.C. Some special guests along the way.

I'll reveal one of those special guests right now. Joining us for the co-made events between Patty the Batty Pimbledt and Jared Flash Gordon will be none other than my best friend, Alexander Kay Lee. Very excited for him to make his MMA-fighting watch party debut tomorrow. But this is your show. It's Friday. It's a free-for-all Friday, which means we can talk about anything you want.

We could talk about Bellator 289, we could talk about UFC 282, we could talk about whatever you want, MMA or not. And that's what we're going to do for the next hour or so. So let's go, let's go to the calls. And we'll start with my man, Toke. How are you, Toke? Coming on here to say that, you know, you're making money off of me. I put money in your pocket. Okay.

Never mind, not that. I just wanted to kick off that way. But what I want to talk about here, I want to say this UFC card is great, but imagine how great it could have been. I mean, the fights that we've lost along the way, it just makes it so, it's so sad, really. And what I wonder is that now that this has happened,

we've lost these fights that we have, I am wondering which card do you see as more top-heavy? Like which is best at the top? Is that Belator or is that UFC? Because actually this time, I think Belator has an argument. So I just want to get your take on that because there's no doubt, no doubt that the UFC card is like the one with the most quality from end to end.

But this, today, this bellatory event actually seems bigger in the top because it actually means something. And this title that there's, the only title fight on this UFC card is one that will always have an asterisk and we will always say, but are they the real champion? So I just wanted you to elaborate a bit on that.

And yeah, start paying me because, you know, I give you all the views, all the clicks. I am the moneymaker. So see you, Mike. Yes, you are, Toke. And that's why we're glad to have you whenever we can. And your check is in the mail. How about that?

Much like Ariel, nothing that I do, that's be an extra cent. I just do this because I like doing it. And I like doing it for you guys. So just get that out of the way for anybody who questions that. Not that Toc is, but just throwing that out there. just in case. Hmm.

So let's talk about the fight. Seven fights were scheduled for this card that are not happening. Ponziabio Loller, Ponziabio is still fighting. Of course, the original main event, Yuri Perashka v. Glover Tashirea. We're supposed to get Bo Nichols, UFC debut against Jamie Pickett. Cameron Simon was supposed to fight Ronnie Lawrence. He's now fighting Stephen Coslow. We're supposed to get OSP versus Alexander Augustin.

Then it was going to be OSP versus Feliz. Leans and then it was going to be OSP versus Antonio Tricoli and now it's OSP versus nobody. He will not be on the card. So we had seven fights that were at one point on this card, no longer on this card. If we're comparing main cards, I'm going to put this at a position where it's like, if I could only, Mike, you can only watch one. I'm watching the UFC. I'm watching the UFC.

I get where you're coming from with the whole, there's an asterisk on the time. title fight. But if we're being honest, there's an asterisk on the Bellator title fight too, because it's an interim title fight. Sergio Pettis wasn't in the Grand Prix, he got hurt. Although in a lot of people's eyes, they feel like this is the actual title fight. But it's kind of the same thing. And here's, it's an interesting conversation. Like, the Bellator main event, I'm more intrigued by the Bellator main event than the UFC main event. Like, I obviously want to see what's going to happen. I want to see if Jan Boehovic can do it. And the more I've dug into this fight and the more fights that I've watched leading in, I feel like Jan has a better chance

than I originally gave him credit for. I am not, I made the decision, a little spoiler for the preview show going down on 3 p.m. today, Eastern time. I'm not picking Yan to win, although I do think Jan has a chance to win. I think of all the fighters that Magamette could face right now, I feel like Jan has maybe the most difficult, is maybe the most difficult from a stylistic perspective. But it all depends on which Janbovich shows up. Are we going to get the, let's go bananas Janbovich, like we saw against Glover?

Are we going to get the Jan Bolovich, who is incredibly patience in the Israel-A-Sanja fight? Or are we going to get somewhere in the middle? And I think if we get somewhere in the middle, Jan has a really good chance to win this fight. If we get any other two, I think it's Ankylaiaths all day. The fight that's getting the most attention this weekend and will continue to do so is the Patty Pimble, Jared Gordon fight. Anything Patty Pimble is attached to, people are going to watch.

Whether you love the guy or hate him, that is probably the fight that's garnered the most attention and will garner the most attention this weekend. Ponsonibio Morono, it is what it is. But if we're comparing this fight to the Dalton Rasta Anthony Adams fight, this one's first. far more competitive. It's far more competitive. Because we all know what Donald Ross is going to do. He's like a minus 1,000 favorite. He's going to go in there.

He's just going to push Anthony Adams, maybe get him out of there. If not, he's going to win a dominant decision. Then we have the Darren Till, Drich is Duplice fight, which is a spectacular storyline built fight. Like, what Darren Till we're going to get? Which guy is going to show up tomorrow night?

So that's interesting, because Darren's a star and people care about that. and then we have, in my opinion, the best fight, the most competitive fight of the entire weekend is Bryce Mitchell versus Ilya I will also say that Bellator probably has the second most compelling fight from a

just a competitive standpoint. I love the Magamad Magamatov patchyvix fight. That fight is not getting enough attention this weekend. That fight frigging rules. I love that fight. But just nobody, really knows who these two guys are, especially Magamadoff. People know him as like the guy who has a win over Piotr Yan, but that last

performance he had against Enrique Barzola was an eye-opening performance for me. Because most people looked at Magamah Maghameda is like, oh, he's just a he's a Magamatov, he's just going to take him down over and over again and sit on top of him. No, this dude can strike too, and he got to show that a little bit more. Apache mixes a freak athlete, still in his athletic prime. that's going to be a great fight. The last, Carmouche Velasquez is interesting as well.

I mean, look, you have a case to be made. If you want to make that argument, I'll listen to you, but to me, the bigger card, the more star power for sure is on the UFC card. And, yeah, even like the prelims on the UFC.

Even the Belator, like some of the Belator prelims are good too. Kyle Kretschmer versus Jilliel Willis is a great fight. It's a great fight. It's a perfect step up in competition for Kyle Kreacher. So I have questions there. I have questions about a lot of the fights, but all in all, it's a damn good weekend to be an M&A fan. I'm going to try to watch as much Bellator as I can.

I know I work in the space and all that, but I have to wake up at 3 o'clock tomorrow morning so I can get ready and go catch an early plane before 6 a.m. So I will watch what my physical being will allow me to watch. I will have it on. And if I fall asleep, I fall asleep. and if I get through the whole thing, I get through the whole thing. But I mean, listen,

if you're an M.A fan and you don't have to wake up early tomorrow, you're frigging good to go. You got fights upon fights that are really, really interesting. But to me, I think the UFC main card is better. But it's not by much. It's not by much.

Mikey. Mikey. Oh, Mikey. Mikey, jump back in. I'll get you. Let's go to Tom. Hey, what's up, man? How are you?

Tom, how are you? Tom, how are you? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. So I know you said, obviously, the most competitive, most compelling fight is the Mitchell Toporia. And I'd agree with it, man. I've been analyzing this, rewatching their last couple of fights. And I'm still just scratching my head on it, man,

because I could see Ilya Tuporia going out there sparking him. But I could also see Bryce Mitchell ragdolling him, even as good and credentialed as Teporia is on the ground, man. It's just everyone's been calling the Patty Pimbleau-Jared Gordon fight, obviously the people's main event. But man, I think far away, the best fight we have this week is, is the Topori Mitchell fight. And really, really excited for that one.

Completely agree with you, Tom. I love this fight. Excuse me. I'm looking at the pulling up betting lines right now. Toporia, minus 140 favorite, come back on Bryce Mitchell plus 120. If I look at, this is like a, hey, and I use this example all the time. So it's become cliche. But if this is a, hey, here's 20 bucks.

You got to put it on one of these guys. based on the betting odds. I'm probably putting on Bryce because I think this is kind of like a dog or pass situation. I think it's a 50-50 fight. And if you're giving me plus money on either of these guys,

I'm taking them. Even if Bryce was the favorite and Toporia was plus money, I'd jump on Ilya. That's just the way I would look at it. This fight is great. I think Ilya is the better fighter. He's definitely the better striker.

Although Bryce is striking is better than people give it credit for. The thing is, here's my one cause for pause on the Toporia side. Bryce Mitchell has fought the far better competition. There's just no doubt in my mind that he has fought the better competition. Let's pull up Bryce's UFC run.

And then I'll compare it to Ilius. Bobby Moffitt, that was a, Tyler Diamond, won the tough finale, he fought Bobby Moffat, got the twister against Matt Sales, fought Charles Rosa, which everyone thought was like a big step up, and he just dominated him, dominated Andre Feely. And then, I mean, he 30, 26 sets in Barbosa. And that's a pretty solid run. It's a pretty solid run.

And then we go to the Ilius side. And Yusuf Salal, short notice fight, won a decision, knocked the hell out of Damon Jackson, finish Ryan Hall. And then went up to 155 after being slated to fight Charles Jordane at UFC 270. He had weight cutting issues. So we went up to 155 and he knocked out Jai Herbert. So look, AK, I'm sorry to say this.

I love you, buddy. And I know how deeply you feel about Ryan Hall. But Ryan Hall isn't even his best win. The Damon Jackson one has aged much better. But still, I think Bryce consistently has just fought better guys. But, I mean, it's not saying like Depore has fought bums because he certainly hasn't. But because I think Yusuf Salah is a good fighter. Jai Herbert is probably not.

UFC caliber, if we're being honest, even though Jai looked pretty good in that first round. I just have so many questions. I don't know what's going to happen. I honestly don't know what's going to happen. I mean, the biggest question I have is, can Teporia keep this thing standing? Because if he keeps his standing, he's going to win. He's definitely going to win in my eyes. Although, like I said, Bryce's striking's got better.

He outstruck Edson Barbosa. He landed some good shots against Edson. And people thought, well, if this thing, if they have any exchanges, Edson's just going to take him out. No, that didn't happen at all. Bryce was able to use those, use that striking and lance some takedown. So, golly, that fight's good. And the same question I kind of have about Stats Sabatello I have with this fight. Will Ilya Teporia's gas tank down the stretch match up to Bryson's or even come close to it? Because that's the question I have with the Bellatory main event.

Because if Danny Sabs can take one of those first three rounds, we got a fight. We got ourselves a fight. Because four and five, Danny's just, Danny's going to be the same guy. It's going to be the same dude. But can Stats go four and five at that same kind of level, at that same kind of energy with the same kind of wind? I don't know. And I feel kind of similar about this fight.

I think Bryce winning the first round is crucial. It's crucial. but god i can't wait for that fight it's the best fight of the weekend from a competitive standpoint it is the best fight of the weekend bikey do we have you yes morning oh good and they are just freaking had a late night and i don't have to go back out there again for the way-ins and stuff so in the titoom you must a boy me uh meet and greet afterwards so but um but yeah man it's uh look first of all just to get on what uh what toke said earlier i said this before when Daniel Cormier won the title when

John Jones vacated, people we need to normalize the idea that you can, that two things can be true. You can be called the light heavyweight champion in the world winning a vacated title while also saying that you need to beat the person who vacated it. You know,

like you don't have to denigrate somebody winning a title, you know, because they didn't beat it from the person who last had it. I get the logic and I agree, but at the same time, it's not, you know, it's not Anklea's fault or Jan's fault that Yere vacated. And by that logic, would it be even more of a legit win if they beat Glover? Good Glover's, what, just because Glover's next champ? You know, it just gets tired of something because everyone wants to try and denigrate

all these fighters. And it's like, you work so hard just to get to the title. And then you're going to tell them, oh, you're not the real champ. I'm like, wait, did he not fight a legitimate contender? Did he not fight someone who was just as good? It's not like they handed him the belt. You know, it's not like Yeri vacate the belt and gave it to the next person in line. You know, they have to fight for it. So that's grown to bother me because it's just like these guys worked so hard and you know how hard it is just to get to that level and to achieve such an accomplishment. And like imagine walking around saying, you know, you're not really a champion because

you never defended it eight billion times. You know, like, I'm a GSP fan. And I remember when Matt Serra beat him for the title. and then Matt Sarah's first title defense was the immediate rematch and he lost the title. I remember saying, ah, you're not a real champion because you didn't beat the guy that you eat in a fluke. And then over the years, I just became like, you know what, man? Matt Sarah gets to walk around for that one time saying I beat GSP for a title. And he gets to take that to the Hall of Fame or wherever he wants to go with it, you know?

Like that win puts him into Hall of Fame alone if you want to put them in there, you know? Like, who's going to tell Matt Sarah you're not a real champion because you didn't defend the belt against GSP? Who fucking cares, honestly. All this shit is semantics. You know what I mean? Like, you reach that level? You win the time, like, who's going to, like, you're a Boston fan, right? Like, are you going to say that anyone who didn't beat the Patriots

when Tom Brady was there wasn't a real Super Bowl winner? Because everyone had to play 18 games to get there to get to the Super Bowl and had to be a, you know what I mean? Like, when you achieve something, you achieve it, you know? So, anyways, that's my rant for this morning. Be kind to one another. Talk to you guys later, man. I love it, Mikey.

Yeah, I agree with you. It's not either of these guys' faults. We also can't control what the fans think and what they say. And most times the true fans are in spaces like this, and they watch our shows, and they're talking positive. And no matter what sport you deal with, you're going to deal with the people who are just going to hate on everything, no matter what.

So, I mean, I'll say this. I mean, whoever wins this is the champion. There's no doubt about it. And if Jan Bolhovich wins, he's definitely the champion in my eyes because I feel like Maghamed ain't alive, even with Yuri in the picture, I think Mogamette's the best light heavyweight in the world. Like I think he beats Yuri. I think he beats Glover. I think he beats John. I think he beats all these guys.

Now, will that be an exciting, rainish champion? I don't know, but we'll see. A lot of people thought Habib is boring. And then all of a sudden he won the belt. And he's just going out there and finishing everybody. And that narrative, that title placed upon him over the years as he was building to get to that point, all went away. And maybe Magabed could be that dude too. And Magabed's had some exciting performances.

There's no doubt about it. But I actually went back to watch. I went back and watched that Tiago Santos fight again. And golly, that is a tough watch. It's a tough watch. Agileve won that fight clearly and cleanly, but it just wasn't the most compelling thing. theater. All I, I just hope this fight delivers. I just, I hope this fight is entertaining. I hope this fight is good. I hope both these guys bring it. I hope it's not the patience kind of

fight that I'm sort of expecting it to be. And hopefully that's what happens. You just get two dudes. You're just going to go in there and throw hands at each other, throw feet at each other. And let's just see that the best man is in that aspect. I understand we're mixing the martial arts. But in this fight, I kind of hope the martial arts don't get mixed that much. I hope we get a little bit of a brawl. We'll see what Anka Lyev can do. I don't want to see Anka Laiv get a bunch of takedowns, although that's probably his best path to victory here.

But we'll see what happens. And you can watch it with us. We'll have fun. And even if that fight's not all that interesting to watch live, G.C. and I will make it interesting. How about that? We'll figure out a way to have some fun. Let's go to AA.

Hello, AA. Good, how are you? I'm good. I've got a comment that I want to your opinion on, and I've also got a question. My comment is about the World MMA Awards and the female fighter of the year. Now, I'm a Valentina fan.

I'm a big Valentina fan, actually. I have her merchandise and everything, but let's be real. She didn't deserve female fighter of the year. she fought once and she arguably lost. I think that's, I think someone like Wayley deserved to win that award. And my question is,

Ken Hooker recently came out and said that he would, he would destroy Patty Pimler. He's crazy, right? He is crazy, right? I love Dan Hooker, but he's crazy, right? Anyway, that's it from me. Heck a heck of a morning, Mike. Everyone listening, have a heck of a morning.

You're awesome, and I'll catch you on the flipside. Peace. Thank you, Double, I'm trying to just pull it up real quick. All right, let me pull up Valentina. Let me pull up Valentina Shepchenko real quick. Because I want to pull up all the nominees because you have to keep in mind, too, that. And I just, let me pull it up.

Let me pull up the old topology and see what we're dealing with here. This isn't like when you, when they, when you have these awards, and I know it's in December, a lot of people think to themselves like, this is from this to this, right? It's from January of this year to December of this year. It's not how it works. It's actually, it's July, July 1st, 2021 to June 30th, 2020. That's what we're looking at.

So it's not one win for Valentina that's put into this equation. It's two. it's the Santos fight and it's the Lauren Murphy fight and she dominated Lauren Murphy but I get I get where you're coming from who are the other nominees Julianna Pena Chris Cyborg Kayla Harrison

Raquel Pennington I don't think Schifchenko winning that is all that far-fetched I saw a lot of people coming out in saying otherwise but you have to this is the time frame it's July of last year to June of this year. It's not this year. It's middle of last year to middle of this year. So Shefchenko's

two and oh. Tough fight with Santos, but she did get a finish of Lauren Murphy in a fight that she dominated every second of. Pena, one win, cyborg, basically was even, it was kind of easy money fights, if we're being honest. Kayla Harrison didn't fight really anybody all that great. And on it like if out of all of these names and i understand like title fights mean more and all that stuff let me pull up the only other one like on merit based on all of this rquel pennington's three and oh kianza finished base c cheson beat aspen lad at ufc 273 so she would have three wins yeah i don't have a problem with chepchenko winning that now for we're dealing with this year like in the m-ma fighting

awards that we're going to have at the end of the year, I don't think Schifchenko's going to win that. I don't think Schifchenko is going to win that. I think Zhang Wei Lee is a pretty clear-cut winner. But this is, again, from July 1st to June 30th of this year. So Chifchenko, two wins, two title defenses, one finish. I don't have an issue with it. Boarding for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes.

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Hi, Mike, big fan. Just a quick one for you. given like the way the press conference went yesterday i was just wondering if you had to put money on it do you think patty and ilia eventually fight i know they're different weight classes i'm just going to see if uh what your opinion on that is i'm going to say no honestly i i think i think i think i'llia tunes him up like i don't think that fight's even all that competitive and i'm not just saying this to doggone patty i just think ilia as a fighter is just way better and we've seen Paddy's striking have a ton of defensive holes.

And you can't have defensive holes in the striking department fighting a guy like Ilya because he will knock you dead. And I think his ground game can hang with Paddy's. Patty's sneaky as hell. But the only way this fight happens is if, the only way this fight happens is if both guys lose badly tomorrow. Like if Bryce Mitchell is, just goes out there at 3024s, Ilya,

and Patty goes out and gets submitted by Jared Gordon or something. I think the UFC might maybe go to that well, because at that point, I mean, what do you got to lose? It's just you put Patty on a UK card, have him to sell a bunch of tickets. That could be the main event. Like, I'm not talking about the March one, but you know they're going to go back later this year.

Well, let's just say they go back in, like, July or August, and they just do a fight night. Patty versus Ilya would be one hell of a main event that's going to sell a shitload of tickets. But if both guys win on Saturday or like Patty wins and then Ilya loses or something, I don't think you could do that fight. I don't think you could do it.

It doesn't make a lot of sense. I understand there's beef there. But if both guys go out there and get melted tomorrow, that it makes sense. Because it's like, all right, Patty ain't moving up the rankings. Ilya ain't moving up the rankings right now. takes a little bit of a step back from going towards a title shot or anything like that. Momentum slows down a little bit.

If the UFC sees something in Ilya and they think he can win and they think he could build him back, you could do that fight. I also would like to see I'll just say, I'm done with featherweight, and I'm just going to be a lightweight, and then that fight makes even more sense. But to me, I don't think it happens, but the best chance for it to happen is if both guys lose tomorrow. and in a way that's it's clear cut. Like if Patty loses a splitie or or Ilya loses a splitie,

I think it makes a lot of sense, but if both guys go out and just lose clear cut, losing a clear cut fashion, I think you put that on the table right now. No. I just don't think that does much for either guy, really. It's just a, it's a beef fight. It's a beef fight, and we like beef fights,

but it's just got to make sense for all parties, and I just don't think right now it does. But if they both lose, sure. What the hell not? World Corner Sports, hello. Good morning, Mike. I wanted to talk about DDP versus Darren Till. Now, my whole thing is everybody keeps up saying that Till's a name.

I'm sorry, but when the fuck is this guy going to actually get a win? This guy hasn't won. Since the last time he went, what was it? The Madison Square Garden Card. is 2019. Since then, we had a president change, right? The pandemic. A bunch of stuff has gone up gas prices. When is this guy going to get a win? I mean, I feel like this guy had a controversial decision against gasoline. And I think you could have given it to gasoline. I feel like maybe Jed is right. This guy isn't a good fighter whatsoever. I mean, Casey Leiden has gotten a win

recently over, you know, Darren Till. So, I mean, like, when is this guy going to get a win? I mean, if he doesn't get a win, what's next? I mean, is he going to fight, like, your Ian Hinesh of the world? Are you going to be going to be? Yep. I lost you. But I understand where you're going.

It's four corner sports. Yeah, if you miss BTL yesterday, find your way to get to our UFC 282 discussion because Jed Bishu just went bananas on Darren Till in his resume, in his, I believe he called him the president of the failing upwards club. But he's not wrong. And four-corner sports is not wrong. Like to me, you can make a case, and I actually feel this way, that Darren Till's best performance of his career was the Robert Whitaker fight,

and he lost that fight clearly. It was close, but I think if we're looking at where Darren could go, and the type of fighter he could be if everything clicks, I think the Whitaker fight was his best performance. Honestly, I do. I think it was his best performance. UFC resume, Wendell Olivera, second round finish. Goes to a draw in Nichols-Dalby.

Nichols-Dalby's a good fighter. Decision against Jessin Ayari, and he missed weight by six freaking pounds, or five pounds for that fight. Decision against Bojan Villari. But his last like real win, like his most relevant win is the Soroni knockout. And Soroni is a career. Soroni's a white.

He's a lightweight. And he folded him. And that was a big performance for him. And then he gets to Stephen Thompson fight, which I don't care if you're Darren Till's brother or sister or best friend. You will never, ever be able to convince me that Darren Till beat Stephen Thompson. he didn't Thompson Wonderboy won that fight

and that fight happens anywhere else in the world Wonderboy wins that fight the fact that it wasn't even a splitty is insanity to me it's insane then he gets a title

thought with Tired Woodley just gets thrashed and what does he get from there after getting thrashed he goes and fights Jorge Mazadol and he had a moment in the first round but then Mazadol just absolutely obliterated him

in the second. Then he moves up to 185 and fights Calvin Gasol. Now, I'm not going to get, I'm not going to, I'm not going to take a ton away from Darren Till with the Gasolm fight, because if you remember, Darren had a lot of travel issues, and he basically didn't even get to New York until like, early Friday morning.

So basically, like, all he had, he gets to New York, checks into the hotel, and then basically had to cut weight, made it, fights Gastilum, performance wasn't great. Now there was Gastilums. But you can make a case that Calvin won that fight. He had a great performance against Whitaker.

He lost, but Whitaker is the second best middleweight in the world. And then the Derek Brunson fight, he says he was really badly hurt heading into that, but didn't want to pull out because there were four fights on the books, and he didn't make either of them. I don't know, man. Like, Darren Till is an interesting cat. But I will say this.

I think Drick's 2 plus C is going to win this fight. But if we're looking for a stylistic matchup that could lead to a bounce back performance, this is the one. Like, this is, this is it. This is the fight. Darren Till from a stylistic perspective, has a chance to win. because Driggins duplice is just a chaotic individual. The dude just is balls to the wall.

Chaos overtakes technique. And even when I asked him after the Brad Tavares win, he was like, oh, no, I'm more technical than I get credit for. Yeah, maybe. Maybe you're getting a little bit better, but you are full of chaos. And you're striking, he leaves himself open for big time counters. And Darren Till could hit like a truck, man. So if we're trying to build Darren Till back up in some way, if you're the UFC,

this is the perfect matchup for him. Because I don't think Darren beats a lot of these guys that are ranked above jerkish right now. I really don't. Like, I think Andre Meadis would just roll him. I don't think he beats a lot of these guys. Like, I really don't. But I think from a stylistic perspective, guys that are ranked, guys who have a little

bit of street credit, if you will, this from a stylistic perspective, is his best chance. Like he's not beating Imovov. He's not beating Muniz. He's not beating Brunson. Hermanson, maybe. I would probably pick Hermanson. Strickland's interesting,

but I think Sean, if he fights Smart, would win. Costa, I think, would win. Vitori would just take Till down over and over again. There's just not a ton of, I don't know. This is it.

Like, this is the one. Like, if Darren wants to get back into the title discussion, he has to win. He's got a win and he's got a matchup that he could do it with and he could be exciting. He could do it here. I just don't know if he will. Darren Till is the biggest mystery on this entire card because we just don't know.

How much is training with Hamzad helped him. He's obviously in tremendous shape. He's in great spirits. And we'll see how that translates tomorrow. But I get it, man. I get people questioning the resume for sure. because he could be on a there's a world where he could be on a six-fight losing streak

heading into this fight. He should be one in five at the very least heading into this fight. Because Wonderboy, you want to make a case that Till beat Gasolm, okay, but you're never going to convince me that he beat Stephen Thompson that night. You're just not. I mean, technically it's a win on Darryantil's record,

but no. Wonderboy won't. that fight. But we'll see. That's why it's an intriguing matchup. Till even after all these losses, there's still some intrigue to him. Because we've seen him fight well. But can he put it all together? Let's see. Let's go to Emperor G. What up, Emperor G. Hey, Mike, how you doing on this fine Thursday Thursday? It's Friday. Oh, it's Friday. Oh, it is Friday. Yeah, it's fabulous Friday.

It is a fantastic. I'm a silly goose. Look, man, you know, look, I wanted to touch on a point that you made in regards to the Ilya, uh, I'm, um, I'm, um, I'm, you know, you mentioned a world where, you know,

they both lose and it makes sense for them to fight. I actually disagree with that in a sense. I think that we can see a world where Patty wins and he simply, uh, and Ilya loses. And we see a where, you know, I'llia actually, or excuse me, patty welcomes, you know, ilia, you know,

to the 145 division. So that's kind of how I envision it. Um, I'm, I'm all on Bryce Mitchell this weekend, but I wanted to ask you a question, you know, there was a photo that surfaced late last

night of Ilya, drinking wine with the boys. How do you feel about that? You know, the night before a weight cut, you know, it just doesn't seem like he's taking this, you know, super seriously here, you know, for those that are backing the Tepuri side, it's, you know, when that video surfaced, it's not necessarily what you want to see in a fighter, right? I mean, is he really going to, is he really taking this fight seriously? Because I think we all know what Bryce Mitchell brings to the table with that chain

wrestling. And, you know, he's not the type of fighter where, you know, you want to go. go against and just kind of slouch around and throw loopy shot. So I was curious to hear your thoughts on that picture and if you had seen that surface this morning. Thanks, man. I have not seen that picture. If that is in fact the case, I mean, I don't really have a thought on it, honestly.

We'll see how he looks at the scale. Like if he goes, if he misses weight by like three pounds, then I'm going to have a big problem with it. And if he comes out and just sucks tomorrow, then maybe there's something to that. But I don't know. Maybe he just likes to have a glass of wine. I don't know if he drank 14 glasses of wine. I don't know if he got, you know,

Paul Costa wine drunk. But, you know, maybe had a nice last meal wanted to have one glass of wine. It's all right. You know, apparently there's some goodness in there. I don't know. We'll see what happens on the scale today. That's one thing.

As far as booking the patty fight, like, I just don't think it makes any sense. I don't think it makes any sense because I honestly think I'llie would beat him, I think Tepori would be Patty. And if Patty beats Jared Gordon in a fight that many consider to be his toughest test, they're going to push him as a guy that's...

They're going to push him towards the title. So they're going to give him matchups. So for Patty to fight Ilya coming off of a loss, who's not a lightweight, at least right, not right now. And you have guys like Grant Dawson, and Jalen Turner and Armand Sarukyon and Damir Izvogulov and other guys like that. Dan Hooker, you know, says he likes Patty, he doesn't want to fight him, but he basically dominate him.

I mean, those guys are there and they probably deserve that opportunity more. They need to fight Patty. Like, they need it. Ilya fighting Patty is just two guys who don't like each other fighting. And there's, and we'd like to see that, sure. We'd like to see two guys who don't like each other fighting. But at the same token, if Patty beats Jared Gordon, if he goes out there and finishes Jared tomorrow,

he's going to fight a top 15 guy next. There's just no way around it. Or he's going to fight somebody with a name. Like, he's going to fight the names. One of the guys I just mentioned, or he fights like Hanata Moikano or somebody like that, because Boycano's got some buzz right now. Him fighting Ilya coming off of a win against Jared Gordon makes no sense.

Outside of just, hey, let's settle around. I believe. It doesn't make any sense to me. There's nothing to gain for the UFC from that fight other than just a short-term game of just throwing two guys who hate each other into a fight. But if they both lose, then who gives a shit? Just throw them in there and fight. Because Ili is out of the featherweight title discussion for a minute.

Patty's clearly out of the lightweight title discussion for a minute. Not that he's there yet, but if he beats Jared Gordy, certainly going to be. You know they're going to push him into favorable types of matchups to build him to a title fight. But I don't think, like in the long run, I don't think it does anything for the UFC. It does more for Toporia than it does Patty, if it goes down that way.

Like if Patty wins and Ilya loses, this does everything for Ilya, it does nothing for Patty. So I'm just looking at it from like a long-term perspective, but if they both lose and who cares, we're not building towards anything. We just throw these dudes in there and let them punch each other in the face,

and that's cool. but the UFC is clearly trying to build Patty towards something bigger. So I'm just kind of looking at it from a promotional standpoint. If they want to book that fight, I'll watch the hell out of it. I'll watch it. I'll be into it. And I'll see if Patty can prove me wrong again. But I think long term, I don't think the UFC is interested in that unless there's just nothing to it.

It's just two guys fighting for no reason. There's reason because they don't like each other. but for a very matriocratic standpoint and moving guys where you want them to go doesn't mean a whole lot. Viking, hello. Good, how are you? I'm all right.

I just want to ask you about why there was less people than usual at the press conference last night. I don't know. I have no idea. So Paddy the Baddy is not a biggest draw yet, right? And in the comparison to McGregor, what a joke, man. And Gregor fought like man in and outside the octagon.

He taught fighters how to get dressed for the press confidence. I'm 100% sure that McGregor would have said, I had to fuck this pain instead of popping someone else's vocabulary. And that blonde prostitute is video dancing like a cheerleaders where McGregor has the iconic walk and many, many biggest sports at least does his walk. I think the UFC PR made him work he is outside London and the other thing is his accent. So I just made a lot of adjustment on my Instagram. You know, the not interested adjustments to Instagram, but that guy still shows up on my Explore section.

So F, the Paddy the Baddy, you know, that superstar, my star, might come just like McGregor, maybe not. But Paddy is not that guy, not Hamza Chima or O'Malley. There's one O.G. In terms of selling fights and chaos and excitement, thank you, brother. I take it you're going to be rooting for Patty tomorrow. I'm just joking. Look, he's not there yet.

He's definitely not there. He's certainly there in the UK. You can't deny that. you can't deny that if patty had the ufc announced tomorrow i'm pulling patty off i'm pulling patty off this card and it's going to main event the pay-per-view at oh two the place is going to sell out it's going to sell in five seconds patty's a star over there's no doubt about it he is a star he's getting there here now i don't take the press conference attendance into accounts because honestly it's the holiday season and most press press

conferences I've attended outside of International Fight Week, which is on a kind of a holiday week, there's not that many people there. There's not that many people there. It's December. There's a lot going on. Christmas shopping, all this stuff. I don't take that into account. It's not like Patty's, maybe Patty isn't popular. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I noticed that myself. First section was pretty full. Back section. There's like nobody there. But I mean, honestly, like, who wants to go to these friggin press conferences? They suck. They suck.

They're terrible. I would never voluntarily go to a press conference. I wouldn't. Not unless there's, like, a massive fight. Like, if it's a massive, massive fight, like, why would I even go? Why would I go? After, like, the first five questions, after the first, like, five reporters asked questions, It's just a mess.

It's just a mess. So maybe people are just like, eh, like, why travel there when I can just watch it at home and just be just as annoyed? Because that's how I feel watching these press conferences now. It's tough. It's a tough watch. We had some cool moments like the Ilya Bowman and all that. But I mean, you think I want to listen to Patty Pimbley and Jared Gordon argue back and forth about whether or not they rolled together for 12 minutes.

No, I don't give a shit. I don't care. I just wish they wouldn't, like, I get the press conference. Like, I totally get it. But you want to do it and build a fight? Cool. But don't send all of them to the media day beforehand. Because what else is there to talk about?

What else is there to talk about? We just heard from all these guys for 15 minutes. They all went up one at a time and sat at a table and got asked, The same questions from the same people. And now you're bringing every single one of them back up to the dais to do it again. It makes no sense. It makes no sense. It drives me nuts.

I can't wait. I can't wait until we go back to a world where the UFC media days before a pay-per-view or a big card are the way they used to be. where each fighter sits in a chair in front of a banner that has their name on it. And we can go up and just have quick four or five minute chats with all of them. And then we're getting different things out of all of them. And you can choose what you want to watch and what you don't want to watch. And then you can bring them back to the press conference because for the most part, it's different. But when you have one fighter sitting having a press scrum for 15,

20 minutes and then they have to come back to the press conference. It's brutal, man. It's brutal. Because anybody who sat there and watched Media Day scrums on M.A. Fighting's YouTube channel or they watched the live stream on Wednesday, you've already heard it all. So what's the point of getting your ass into a vehicle and driving over to the arena to attend a press conference when you already know what we're going to get? Now, did we get Patty and Dillia almost fighting each other at the Media Day? No. so that was different

but other than that it was the same thing it was all the same all the same stuff so I mean just for me I would not voluntary go to a press conference

if I'm asked to work it sure I'll go what the hell like that's my job but if they're like hey Mike you want to go to the press conference to me I'm like nah dude

no I'd rather do almost anything else you FE hello you're there but you have to There we go.

No, I agree with you, bro. I do get the point ever since they switched over to the new, like, format of the press scrum in front of people. But I also do think, like, you know, from a fan's perspective, a lot of the times, like, you know, they travel to these events, you know, they'd never, like, sometimes, like, imagine the first time you actually went to event and how excited you are, you know, like, some people are so pumped up for those press conferences. You know, it's more of, like, the experience, you know. I don't think it's the listening to what they have to say. Because at the end of the day, like before we had Connor McGregor, before we had, no, mostly Connor McGregor, because he's the one that elevated those press conferences. Like, he was the one that made it a spectacle, you know, something you want to see.

Now, I guess it's not so much that just because it's not tailored to the type of interactions that the fighters have, you know, now with each other. But back in the day when, like, we had Connor and, like, really those kind of personas, is they really elevated those experiences because those are spectacles. I know I still go back sometimes and watch Connor McGregor press conference highlights, you know? I look like I said,

I agree with you. I agree with you on that aspect. Like if it's a Connor presser or it's for a massive fight, sure. Like I'll go there. I would go to that. But this card, like it's a good card,

but it's not like a massive card. Patty's on it. But again, it's the, timing of everything. Like July, it's international fight week and like everybody's traveling. People are coming from all over the freaking world to not only go to the fight and go to the press conferences and do that,

but they're going to the fan expos and they're doing all that. Like they can make a week out of it. It's December. They ain't traveling. Most people aren't traveling to Las Vegas to watch Yombollahovic fight Maghameh Ankolaev. It's mostly you get some people, sure.

Like, even Patty said, like you flew out a bunch of his boys and a bunch of his mates. So like they're there. But if Patty, if this fight was happening in like September in Las Vegas, that press conference is full because it's not December. People don't travel that much in December. And if they do have to travel, it's for work-related purposes or it's family-related purposes. They ain't going.

They're not traveling for the most part to Las Vegas to go watch a vacant light heavyweight title fight. They're just not doing it. But I get where you're coming from. Big ass fight. Like, Conner's there. That's a whole different story. That's a whole different thing. That's compelling.

We don't know what the hell is going to happen. But with this, I'm not surprised by the turnout. I'm not surprised by the turnout. That's all I'm saying. Like, I just miss the old Media Day style because it makes things interesting. And if you are traveling to the event, like, I, sure, I recommend you check out everything. Like, if this is your first time going to a UFC event, this is your first card you're attending live. and you want to experience all of it,

go to everything. I get it. Like 100% do it. But most people in Las Vegas who are going to this fight, they've been to like a thousand press conferences. And for years, they were getting them like every month

before they started like really traveling and more states approved the sport and all that. Like, they've been there, done that. There's just not a, it's just different. I think the month heard it, honestly, in a lot of ways, December is just a sucky month of travel.

And most people in Vegas, I'm like, eh, I don't stay home and watch it. But I can't wait to go back to the days where, and I feel like next year it's going to happen where we go back to the old school media days where it's a little bit different. You could kind of pick your poison when it comes to that stuff. But it's tough, man. Those press conferences are really tough. This episode is brought to you by Peloton. A new era of fitness is here.

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we have the press conference and we have that kind of stale format. But the one thing you can maybe get from this that the UFC want for wider coverage and viral moments is we're looking for that radio Rahim to this day moment, you know, in the post-press conference moments. So I think I get what you're saying completely. I also get what UFEs say. as well. I think the reason the UFC do this is still to look

with those viral moments to see if there's some sort of chemistry with fighters pre or post press conference or something in the backstage. They're just looking for those viral moments. So whilst I agree with your kind of state with it being bland and kind of tried and tested particularly in Vegas this time of year,

for them, they get one of those moments. They spin it for the next six months on YouTube etc. So it is good for the viable moments and the fishing for the for the for the kind of viral clips but i do agree with you that these fighters just want to just can get the heads down and fucking get get get it on tomorrow so you can understand why they do it but it is questionable why they do it does that make sense i think two things can be true at the same time oh 100 percent 100 percent and like like i said to uh emc earlier hold on one second trying to do multiple things here um

Got some breaking news here. Sorry. This is the tough part about doing the show. You may have seen it. I just tweeted it out. But so more on this UFC gambling story. I am told by a spokesperson for the Alberta Gaming Liquor and Cannabis, they have reinstated UFC betting markets on Playalberta.

I just got this response moments ago. Here's what it says. With the recent announcement by the UFC that James Krause, his managers and fighters will not be permitted to participate in UFC events pending Nevada State Athletic Commission's investigation, Alberta Gaming, Liquor and Cannabis has reinstated UFC betting markets on Playalbeta.ca.

Protecting consumers in Alberta is of the utmost importance to AGLC, we will remain vigilance in monitoring the situation and ensure players continue to have safe and secure gaming opportunities on Play Alberta. So that is pretty big news right there. Now we'll see if the other, we'll see if Ontario does the same, but that's a wrap.

How about that? How about that? So very cool stuff. Let's move on. Tristan, you're sorry. I'll go to the end, then I'm going Tristan next. Am, hello.

Am, are you there? All right. Couldn't get him. Tristan, how are you, sir? Hey, Mike. How's everything? I'm good. How are you?

As far as down to this concern, I just think the UFC really likes him. And they're going to give him any opportunity you can to try to make a title run. I think they just like his personality, and they like that he could promote in self-ights and talk crazy. I think the UFC loves that about him.

Jedman Shue said it on BTL yesterday. He fails upward. He'll lose, but still get an opportunity to fight the top fighters in the division. So I just, they're going to, the UFC are just going to give him every opportunity to get back into the title hunt. If he beats some DDP tomorrow,

you know, he's going to fight someone big again. So that's just what it is. when the UFC likes you, they're going to give you every opportunity to get a chance to get a title shot. You know, I think you guys mentioned on BTL as well that when he was champ, when Israel Adasana was champ, he wanted to fight Darren Till. And it's like, yeah, but this guy hasn't won. And I just don't think he cares. I just think the UFC loves him. And they're going to, again, they're going to keep giving him opportunity. So it is what it is. As far as the card goes for Saturday, my question to you as well is what Edmund Jabazzian is facing here.

This is a big opportunity for him. I did hear him speak in the media scrum talked about that he's going to put on a performance. I do like to change that he got away from Edmund Tavarian, and he's now with Extreme Couture with Eric Nixick. and he's listening to everything what they said. They added a lot of things to his game. And do you think that he could get back to what he was before the three-fight losing streak, going on another run,

you know, building himself back up again, winning multiple fights, and seeing that he could be a top prospect again. I mean, he's 25 years old, he's still young. So do you think he can get back to that? And also, too, what do you think about, the prospect here who's kicking off the actual card. Cameron Simon, I think I know, I watched him on Dana-Wy Contenness Series.

It was actually this past August. What do you think, him coming into the UFC, is making his UFC debut as a prospect coming in? He's also from South Africa, so I guess he has trained with DDP. So just your thoughts on that? everybody have a heck of a morning thanks thanks man enjoy the card uh yeah cameron's good man um steve coslow i spoke with him earlier this week uh very respectful very impressed with this young man um it should be fun like it's gonna be a good fight it's gonna be a good fight um i'm excited

to see what he does he's got a he could have a very bright future ahead of him no doubt about it The Till thing, you're not wrong. Like, you're definitely not wrong. The UFC likes him. People care about Darren Till. Darren Till could lose 100 fights in a row and people are going to react to every single thing he does. Darren has found a way to get himself over.

Whether he fights or not. Whether he fights or not. People love him on social media. Most people, anyways. And even if you don't, you still want to react and have sort of social media conversation with him. Darren's done a nice job of getting opportunities and at least getting himself over. Now, eventually his fighting is going to have to translate into wins.

And like I said earlier, this is good matchmaking. This is good matchmaking because one of two things is going to happen. Darren Till's going to get a highlight real finish against a guy that stylistically he could get one against. or DDP, a guy that a lot of people are excited about is going to get a huge win on his resume, at least in the eyes of most UFC fans. Like everybody knows who Darren Till is. Not everybody knows who Brad Tavaris is.

And Brad's good. And Brad's been doing the damn thing for a while. And I respect the hell out of that dude. But most people who have any interest in MMA knows who Darren Till is. And that means something. That means something. And that's why with the whole. Patty situation, I want to throw

them in there with like a Jalen Turner or even a Demir Isma Guloff or a Grant Dawson. Like guys who hardcores are excited about but not a lot of people know who they are. And if Patty beats them, us as fans are going to be like, holy shit,

like that's a great win. This guy's good. Or the casualized to be like, all right, I didn't know who this Grant Dawson dude was, but he just beat Patty Pimbleau. That's got to be a big deal. So you have to look at it in that direction. I think that's exactly what this fight looks like. Now, if I'm the UFC,

am I kind of hoping Darren Till wins? Probably, because he has built this persona and he has done the damn thing in that respect. But if Drickus wins, like, it's not a loss for them. Like, damn, we just, this guy's over now.

And it's like, Derek Brunson was already kind of where he was and some of the other guys he fought have already been sort of established and have been fighting for a long time. Like the Rob Whitaker win didn't do a ton for Rob. because Rob was already the freaking champion.

He was already on his way back up anyways. But for Drickus, him beating Darren Till is a very big deal. It's a very big deal. Maybe not to like us, because we look at Darren's record. But again, for those who are kind of fringe fans, they're going to be like, ooh, I got to learn more about this Drickus duplice guy because he's beat Darren Till. So that's how I'm looking at it.

But you're not wrong. I mean, the UFC definitely likes Darren Till. That's why we're here. let's go to the baby seal they'll go to the am cryptocurrency and then j and then we're done hello hey mike how you doing good how are you a real quick question um what do you think is next for the winner of ilyathoporia and brys mitchell and um with this whole glory mhm a thing what do you think is happening with brandon morano in the figurado fight oh jesus uh second question i have no idea I literally have no clue.

I don't know what's going to happen. From what I understand, at least for some of the guys, like Marcel Rojo is able to fight. Julian Marquez apparently went to Vegas, so he's finishing up camp in Vegas and all that. So I guess it seems like he's good to go to fight Geron win. Moreno, I have no frigging clue. We know Jeff Maline is not fighting.

Jimmy Flick anymore. Jimmy Flick's not fighting Charles Johnson. I don't know if that's related or not, because no one's saying anything, but I literally have no idea. I literally have no idea. As far as the Mitchell-Tuporia

winner, probably Mobsar? I'd like to see that. Maybe the loser of the interim title fight. Maybe Arnold Allen. I would say, like, my first answer would be Calvin Cater,

but he's going to be out to, like, the end of next year. if that even if that happens. But yeah, I mean, they both have options. They're both moving up. I would go with the lawyers. That'd probably be my number one pick. But if they went to Arnold Allen

or if they went to the Josh Emmett, Yaya Rodriguez loser, I'd be cool with that. Now, I'll say this too. If they wanted to throw Max in there with one of those two guys, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I wouldn't have a problem with it.

I do have a problem with Arnold fighting Max Holloway because Arnold's right there. Arnold's there. Like you could throw Arnold into a title fight right now and no one would complain. So Arnold, in the spot he's in, him fighting Max Holloway doesn't make any sense. But the winner of this fight fighting Max makes sense. Because even if they beat Max, like they're in the discussion. They're knocking on the door. But I don't know if they jump Arnold out.

You know what I'm saying? But if Arnold's like right there and you could just slide right into a title fight right now, why would you have him fight Max Holloway? It makes no sense. So the options are plenty. It's a big, big fight. There's a lot on the line here between these two guys. And I'm excited.

I'm excited. It won't be Giga. Maybe Bryce could fight Giga. It definitely won't be Teporia versus Giga. I don't think. But yeah, I think we're looking if Loya have maybe Ortega, like that range. Someone in the top seven or eight.

But yeah, a lot on the line here. So it makes this fight even more compelling. Diem, are you there? I thought I was not next online. So I want to do it back to feed my chickens. So I have a question about the MMA Awards. Who is behind them? and like who gives these awards and based on what because

Tim Habib and and Hafir Mendez they did not get anything even though they have been they have champions in multiple organizations UFC, Belator and PFL they have like people who are going to fight for titles in other organizations they did not get one single award last night

I call this by I don't know based on what you give awards. Machachev, he fought, like you said, the year is from last summer to the summer of this year. So between that period, he fought four times and he had submissions and all of them. I don't know which submission did not make it. I don't know why the Hafir Mendez or Habib Normagumid al-Gumidav did know when, like, Coach of the Year, even though, like I said, they have all these champions

and these contenders in multiple organizations. What do you think about that? And who is the, I mean, who is behind this MMA Awards show? Who is behind it? Thank you.

Thanks, man. So the MMA award show is, it's hosted by Fighters Only magazine. They're the ones that have been putting this on for the last 14 or so years. And it's all, it's a fan vote. It's all fan vote.

So the nominees come out. I don't know how the nomination process works. I'm sure it's just people who work within the magazine that they kind of put these all together. But from there, I honestly have no idea. And then you put the nominees on and then you vote and you go from there. So for Makachev, the ones that counts are the Tiago Santos win, the Dan Hooker win, and the Bobby Green win. Those are the only ones that count for the voting. those are the only ones.

Now, I will say this. If I don't think it's biased, I just think it's the timing of it all. Like, I think it's the timing of it all. Like, Mokachev, nice, good, that's a good run right there. That's a good run. But there's just, Volkanowski is, I mean, Machachev was still in the mix. Like, he got nominated, so that's good.

But no one, no one was beating Volkanowski. Nobody was beating Volkanovsky. Nobody was. now next year it's going to be different because those two are going to freaking fight each other so makachev heading into next year already has olivera and winning the belts that's there already so that's already on the list for the 2023 awards if he beats bolkinovsky that's the second win those two wins alone should give him the nod but dan hookers is best win i mean look it's it's a nice run no doubt

about it, but with the impact of winning titles and all that, he did win the title, but not in the timeframe. Not in that, it's just what, not in the timeframe. That's all it is. That's all it is. But Makachev got nominated and that's pretty freaking cool that he got nominated with one top 15 win. All right, I'll take a couple more. Cryptocurrency.

Hello. Can you hear me, Mike? Yes. No, yes, I can. Perfect. Mike, okay, so free reflections from the press conference. Three interesting things. I want your take on.

First thing being, I don't know if anyone else noticed, but Dana White clearly said that Yuri was devastated when he had to vacate the belt. I just found that to be an interesting choice of words. It wasn't that he was devastated when he chose to or when he realized that he won't be able to fight. He literally said when he had to vacate the belt. I'm just going back to this. I truly believe that the UFC played a big role. in him vacating this belt,

having some type of a deal with him that when or even if he returns, that he will get a title shot. It was just an interesting choice of words that he had to vacate the belt. Maybe a little slip of the tongue, so to say from Dana. Maybe he didn't realize what he actually said there.

But, yeah, I don't think Yuri vacated the belt completely by himself. I think there's more going on there. So that's number one. Reflection number two, Mike, have you ever seen a fighter with lower confidence than Darren Till during the press conference? I mean, I'm not a huge Durantil fan. And I've said this before,

that we will most likely just remember him as the guy that used to hang out with Chimaya. But even for me, Mike, it was sad to see. I mean, he just looked uncomfortable, out of place. Just the comments he made to DDP. I mean, he already looked beaten. I mean, it was sad to see. And I think that this is it. This is it.

DDP is going to win tomorrow. I think the pressure has gotten to Darren Till. I think he realizes that this fight is very important for his future. And Jed is absolutely correct. I mean, I don't know why. I don't know how it's possible. but this guy keeps on getting these top fights, even though he's losing or not performing very well.

I don't know how it's possible, but I think just a moment has gotten to him. It was really sad to see, feeling very comfortable that DDP will win. And the third and final thing, I just want you to take on Mr. Dushbag, Patty Pimblet. Did he actually, I mean, I don't know, this is the thing, Mike. I'm from Sweden, so I don't know how people take the word

a mongrel, but that to me seemed to be a bit over the line. And I'm not the type of guy that brings up the good old Euro racist card, but calling someone a mongrel several times just because he's born in Germany and lives in Spain and fights under a different flag. I mean, isn't like wasn't that a bit over the line? I think it's quite funny because, of course, Patty Pimlet is this good old, good old, yeah, let's not bully anyone. Let's be nice to each other. And suicide is a really serious thing and so on. And still, he goes out there and calls this guy a term that, at least to me, and once again, Mike, I'm not from the U.S.

I don't know. Maybe people think that it's okay to call someone a mongrel, but I want your take on that as well. isn't that a bit I mean yeah he he definitely went over the line according to me but I just want your take on that thank you Mike yeah I mean again

I'm not proficient on scouser talk and what one word means over there and what it means here because a lot of those guys like Till and Patty they drop the C word all the time

and over there it means one thing and over here it's like one of the worst things you can say. So, I don't know. I honestly have no idea. I don't know. But I'm with you on like the Till stuff and we'll see.

The thing with Till is like we know we know there's something there. Like there's something there. Like Darren Till's never fighting for a world title. Especially in a world where Israel Adasania is not the champion. Like if Izzy had beat Pereira and Till beat DDP and Izzy was like, I want to fight Darren Till. The UFC probably would have given him what he wanted. But at the same token,

Pereira's a champ, that's probably off the table now. But we'll see what happens. We'll take a few more. We're running into time issues here. Jay, hello. Yes. All right, so not waste time. I saw that Chris Dawkes said that moving down to 205

is a possibility in the future. and if he loses tonight against Gersino Roastring, do you think that's the option for him to go or should he stay at heavyweight? And the next thing was, I believe like three days ago, I saw Jose Young's tweet out the list of fighters who retired and Kiesa responded to him and said that Luke Rockhold is actually not retiring

and he may be planned on fighting again. So what do you think about that? Do you think Luke Rockwell should come back or should you also stay retired? All right. Thanks, Mike. Have a good morning, man. That is an interesting question.

I would like to see Luke not fight again. I like to see Luke not fight again. I mean, he lost to Paul Costa. The fight was bananas. But I just go back to how I felt about that matchmaking from Jump Street and how I felt about that fight leading into it and how I thought that fight was going to go. And then remembering what that fight actually looked like

and how it played out. And to me, that's like one of the best ways you can go out. right you go out and you left me what like i didn't think i would be leaving the paul costa luke rackold fight saying to myself you know what if luke fights one more time i ain't mad at it like i'll watch it and i actually felt that way after that i actually did i don't think this guy's a title contender i don't think he's that at all but you know if they want to like do that like anthony smith fight or something down the road like i'll watch the shit out of that i'm fine with it But other than that, no real interests

because I just don't think there's a better way for him to go out. Because I think if he fights anybody else that the UFC would probably match him up against, I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it. I just don't, I think the ending is about as happy as it can get, considering where Luke's at in his career right now. So that's what I think.

All right, let's go to today. I had a hid. He was going to close this out. but if he jumps back, we'll close with him. But today, are you there? Just got to unmute yourself. Are you there? All right?

Okay. I hit him, giving you 10 seconds. I'm giving you 10 seconds. All right. Casey Martinez, you might be closing us out here. Casey, hello. Hello? Hello?

I was a long-time listener anyway from Utah, but I was just wondering if you caught the Bryce Mitchell and Ilya, the video Dana sent, Ilya was trying to like talk crap to him and Bryce just like starts quoting the Lord's Prayer. Did you see that? And was that not hilarious? Yeah, I saw it and good little face off.

And yeah, I mean, if someone was like, give me 10 guesses of what Bryce Mitchell is going to say in the faceoffs, I probably would have guessed it right. It would have been something like that. But that's just two Bryce's, man. And I don't agree with a lot of what he says, honestly. And I think you know what I'm talking about, but I'm not going to make this about that.

This is about those two dudes getting in there and fist fighting each other. That's what I care about at this point in time. But that face off, that was a cool face off. Those two were jauna each other. Maybe Bryce is tapping into his inner Rose Damai Yunus, because Rose did the same thing before the Yawanna fights. So, yeah. Let me see if there's anything else here.

What do you think about Islam versus Alexander Volkanowski? Great fight. It's a great fight. I can't wait to see it. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. I was intrigued before the face-off. I was all in after the face-off at UFC 280,

and I'm getting more and more all-in the closer we get to February 11th. Because that fight, that fight interests me a lot. I'm very curious to see how it plays out. That's going to be fun. But we got a couple months before that. All right, we are done. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

Don't miss the live UFC 282 weigh-in show, M.A. Fighting YouTube channel, top of the hour. And then we will be back 3 p.m. Eastern. Hopefully, that's the plan right now. 3 p.m. Eastern. We're going to do the live preview show for UFC 282. I say that's the plan because you never know what the hell is going to happen. Because that was the plan for UFC 279.

And clearly that didn't happen because all hell broke loose. And maybe all hell will break loose today. Who knows? But if that doesn't happen, we'll see you at 3 p.m. Eastern. We appreciate it very much. And then tomorrow, tomorrow I'm off to New York for the watch party for UFC 282. Have a great rest of the weekend. Enjoy the fights.

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