MMA Fighting - HOAM | Was Glover Teixeira UFC 282's Biggest Winner?

Episode Date: December 13, 2022

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when we're done here on the MMA Fighting Podcasting Network. I am Mike Heck. Hope everyone's having a great start to the week. Hope everyone had a great weekend. Man, is there a lot to discuss following Bellator 289, following UFC 282, and a lot of it has to do with the judges, judges scorecards, a lot going on in that aspect.

At least with the Bellator card, I think the right fighter was victorious in the main event. One of the all-time worst scorecards ever from Doug Crosby scoring the Rafion Stotz, Danny Sabatelo fight 5045 for Danny Sabatelo. That's just an awful, awful scorecard. And we thought that might have been the end of it, but no, it was not the end of it because we went across the country to Las Vegas from beautiful Uncasville, Connecticut for UFC 282.

and that card started off absolutely on fire. Ten fights, ten finishes, some great battles, some prospects coming through in a big way, living up to the hype. And then we get to the fight everyone had circled. Patty Pimblitz, UFC pay-per-view debut against Jared Gordon in the co-main event. And the fight happens, goes to full 15.

It is a pretty close fight. Most people, I would say like 97% of the combat sports watching community, whether it be fighters, media members, fans, all scored the fight for Jared Gordon. A couple people scored it for Patty. But for the most part,

everyone thought the only discussion to be had was whether it was 3027, Jared Gordon, or 2928, Jared Gordon. I scored it 2928 watching it live during the watch party on Saturday with G.C. and AK and Mysterious Frank. And I felt like Jared Gould won the first two rounds. I gave round three to Patty.

Although if you wanted to give that third round to Jared, I'm not going to be mad at you. I just didn't think Jared did very much in that round. And if we're weighing damage and landing shots more than anything else, I gave round three to Patty because I think he's the only one that actually really did anything besides Jared just trying to control him against the fence and things of that nature. So I was fine with 29, 28. Of course, Patty Pimboat wins the fight. Everyone has been in an uproar ever since. And then we get to the main event. And I kept saying on all these shows and on the preview shows and other things you did for

in May fighting, the main event, hopefully will crown a new light heavyweight champion between Jan Bojovich and Magamene and Goliath. And I prefaced this. I don't know why I kept prefacing that way. Not that I saw the future or anything, but I don't know, I had weird vibes about all of it. And turns out we get ourselves a draw. And there is still no champion at 205.

But then Dana White at the press conference, like we mentioned this and the aftermath of the watch party. Just pulled Jamal Hill from the March 11th fight. Yeah, it sucks for Anthony Smith and just have him fight Glover to share for the belt. And lo and behold, that's exactly what we're getting here. That's exactly what we're getting. the new main event for UFC 283 in January, in Rio.

Glover Tashira gets exactly what he wants. He will fight for the vacant title, and he will take on Jamal Hill in a fight that I think favors him greatly, honestly. So it all worked out for Glover Tashira, probably the biggest winner of UFC 282. But I'm going to take your calls. I know you guys have a lot to say about the weekend,

but I did literally an hour ago watch Patty Pimbleau versus Jared Gordon a second time. I had to see the fight in just a different environment because while you're on the watch party and you're talking and there's a million things going on around you, perhaps I didn't give it the appropriate amount of attention. It's still a talking point three days later. So I wanted to go back.

Didn't even have the sound on, didn't have anything on. I just wanted to sit down and watch the fight, which is me in a room all by myself, empty house, everything. And I watched the fight. First round, Jared Gordon's round. 100%. 100%. I thought he landed the cleaner shots.

There's just no world where Patty wins that round. Like I can't even entertain you if you feel Patty won the first round. I can't even listen to it. Round two is definitely closer. Patty picks it up a little bit more. There's exchanges on the ground. There's control. But again, if we're talking damage being the priority,

I feel Jared landed the cleaner shots. I think the left hand just continued to land. It wasn't as dominant as the first round. It wasn't as clear cut as the first round. But to me, I felt Jared Gordon won the round, which to me tells me he won the fight. But I do see how you could score it for Patty. He is a little, he does a little bit more.

There is at least a conversation to be had with that one. And the third round is just super close. Because again, I still score the third round for Patty. I just think he did more. There wasn't a ton of strikes thrown in the round. But I do feel that Patty, his strikes meant more than the control against the fence that Jared Gordon seemed to have. And I do agree with Dana White when I said that Jared kind of let his foot off the gas a little too much. and if he kept it standing and kept it striking

and Patty said the same thing. He was compromised. He's basically fighting on one ankle. If Jared had just continued to land shots, this probably isn't even a conversation right now. But it turns out it still would have been because it still would have been a Patty decision even if Jared went all out and just landed the big strike.

So in the end, even watching it the second time, I still scored 29, 28 for Jared Gordon, but I will say that watching it back and just having a clear sense of it all, I was screaming, this is a all-and-out robbery. This is blasphemy. This is one of the worst decisions I've seen in a long time. But the second watch, I don't know if I feel the same. I don't know if I feel the same.

I'm flirting with robbery now. I'm flirting with it. If I see robberies sitting at the bar looking all lonely, I'm going to walk over and have a conversation with it. But I don't feel like I'm asking robbery out on a date, if that makes sense. So I'm leaving it. So if you want to call it a robbery, okay, I don't know if I'm calling it a robbery anymore. I think I've jumped off that ledge. I don't think we're calling it a robbery.

I'm calling it a bad decision. I'm calling it a bad decision. But watching it the second time alone, no sounds, nothing else around me, I ain't calling a robbery. It's a really close fight. I do feel like Jared got hosed a bit, but I don't think it's a robbery. I don't think it's a robbery. And if we want to compare it to the Sabatello scorecard, the Sabotello scorecard is five billion

times worse than anybody scoring it for Patty Pimbley. I do think Jared deserve to win. I do think I scored it for Jared, but again, I've seen what a robbery looks like and those examples of robberies are just not the same here. It's not the same.

So we're close to the robbery. We're like, we're like a frog jump away from it, but I don't think we're there. I don't think we're there. Maybe you have to watch it a third time at like a different time, day.

They have to finish my ice coffee and then watch it again, but still think Jared won, but I don't think it's a robbery. And maybe, maybe I'm about to get annihilated for the next hour, and that's okay. But I'm just giving you my take. I'm giving you my sense rewatching it. And if you haven't rewatched it and you haven't been in a place where you cannot be distracted, if you can just sit down and watch it and turn the sound off, and just pay attention to it from start to finish.

I don't know. I think you should try. I think you should do it. I think you should do it. And maybe you'll get a different sense of it. But I do think Jared Gorda won the fight, but I do think it was a closer fight than I thought it was on Saturday. It's just bad timing.

All this is just bad timing. The weekend, everything going on with the integrity of the sport, everything Ariel talked about yesterday, it makes sense and there's a point to it. but it's a bad decision. I just don't think it's an all-and-out robbery on the second watch. Well, let's go to you guys and see what you have to say. Mikey, hello.

Morning, everyone. How's what I doing? Morning, Mikey. All right, so just going to get a couple things off my chest. I was there in the building that night. As crazy as this sounds, I watched the fight very intentively, despite being surrounded by drunk people yelling. Um, robbery, no.

Petty Larsonie, yes. Patty, the irony of that fight was that that was set up for Patty to have like, especially in the night where we were getting all these finishes lined up in a row. It was building up to him having that crescendo moment, right? Where he's like, okay, all these knockout finishes and it's going to, and then Patty's going to come out there and start Jared Gordon in like two minutes and we're all going to lose our mind, right? And you can just feel the audience kind of getting deflated in a way

where they were just like, okay, this fight's going longer than we thought. And not only is it going longer, it's not even that exciting because Jared rightfully so drugged us in the mud and tried to make it, you know, very, very slow-paced. Listen, Dana White is very harsh for the things he says, but I think if you can peel back a little bit, you can, there's some things he pointed out that are, that seems sensible.

You know, like, if Jared really wanted to definitively finish those rounds and maybe he does get the clear decision, that's a tough thing about it. It's like you can't trust the judges are looking at your game plan and understanding it. He applied the right game plan. The problem is the judges didn't know what the hell they were looking at. A lot of Patty strikes didn't have a lot of probably, I mean, Jared was taking it. And, man, that's just tough, man.

And it's, like I said, Jared deserved that decision, but, you know, people are going to react the way they react. And rightfully so, because it was, it was kind of dubious looking. On that note, too, I got to say, like, why do I don't understand, why do MMA fans do these things where they're like, oh, it's clearly fixed. It's clearly rigged. Listen, if they were going to rig that fight, they would have asked Jared Gordon to take a dive, not wait 15 minutes for Patty to look like crap, and then give them a decision.

You know what I mean? like how if you're rigging the fight why would you rig that why would you tell patty okay patty we're going to rig this for you have a shitty fight and wait till the judges come you know it makes no sense like i understand the ufc can sometimes be a little awkward and shady but like come on you know and otherwise and as for the main event uh that's rough and first of all that dana white needs to calm down the main event was not that terrible not the greatest fight you will ever see it's not going to go down as like one of the best title fights of all time but it wasn't terrible.

And the call for Glover and Jamal to get title fights the right one, it just sucks that Dana White announced it in the manner he did, you know, sounding so capricious and mean. It was the right call, but just like, dude, calm now. You know, anyways, Raul Roses is a star. I know, yeah, he got like J-Pairns, not like the best fighter he could fight, but in the building, everyone loved that kid.

Anyways, that'll be all for me. Be guys to one another. See you guys later. Thanks, then. Yeah. Raul Rose's moment was not too big for him at all. And that was like my biggest question about him. Would he kind of have the first round that he had?

Would Jay Perrin be able to survive? And if so, would it just be an incredible dump of adrenaline after the fact? Because Perrin's a dog. It's very tough to finish that guy. The guy went 15 minutes with Mario Batista on less than a week's notice and went the full 15 with him. If you look at what Mario Batista has done in the UFC, it's not easy to do. Mario is a killer, and he's probably one of those guys in this division that just isn't getting enough credit for the work he's put in and the performances that he's had. So I thought this match was perfect.

I said on the show that should be the exact opening matchup. Throw him in there with Jay Perrin. I think it's perfect. And Rollo showed out, man. He loved it. He was comfortable with everything. I was very impressed with him. I will say this, though.

I don't care what he said on the M.A. hour yesterday. He's just wrong. We're not pumping this dude up. We're not throwing him to the wolves right now. You can't do it. You can't do it. I suggested Kevin to Timmy Dodd, do it International Flight Week. Let this kid save him from himself.

Save him from himself. Let him enjoy the rest of his senior year of high school. I know most of it's homeschooling, but he's still like part of a school system, if you will. and let him be a senior in high school the rest of the way. Once he graduates, throw him on the international fight week card, and then we can have at it. We can get him a little more active, let him do his thing, but let's not throw him to the wolves.

Let's not go crazy with this. Main event was not a bad fight. I actually liked it. I liked it for a while. It was kind of on the edge of my seat a little bit, but it was literally the fight I expected outside of Jan just, really landing those light kicks and making Magamahem and Goliath just super uncomfortable. It forced Ancolaev to have to make the decision to,

I'm just going to run at you and tackle you because I can't take any more of these light kicks. And that's essentially what he did in rounds four and five. I scored the fight for Ankolaev going back and rewatching it. If you want to give Jan the third round, I get it. It's not egregious. I had more of an issue with the, I mean, you want to call round five a 10-8, okay, I still don't see it. I still don't see it. There's just, I just, it's the scoring more than anything.

Like it was a dominant round. Bluhovich didn't do anything really, but Anklev just had control. He landed some strikes. Is that a 10-8? I don't know. I don't know. but if you want to call that a draw, if you scored the third round for Yadda

and you think round five is a 10-8, then it's a draw. It's the right card. It's not horrible. I thought Ankelyev was able to win round three, and then he clearly won four and five, so I scored it 48, 47 for Anka-Lyaf, but it's just one of those weird fights.

But it was pretty damn compelling until the fourth round, first three rounds were had a lot of questions. They're like, oh, boy, is he going to be able to continue on with that leg injury. How bad is it? Can Belhovic keep smashing that leg with his shin? I don't know. But kudos to Ancolaia for turning it around and getting the win. And then I'm with you on the paddy one. I'm with you. I don't think it's a robbery. The fight is closer

than I thought it was watching it live. And that's it. I do feel like Jared deserved to win. I feel like the environment was probably a big catalyst. I do agree with Big John McCarthy there. Sometimes when you're there and you experience all of it, it could be a little much. And it's tough for the judges too. Like you're sitting in one seat and you're watching from one specific angle. They're not getting the same feel of things that we are watching it on television.

But I just don't know how you can score, no matter where you're sitting or who you are, I just don't know how you could score that first round for Patty. I don't, I just don't understand it. That was the clearest round of the fight for me. Because Jared just kept landing that left hand over and over again. Patty wasn't landing really anything. And anything he looked like to, he landed.

Jared was, was blocking. Jared was blocking. He had good defense. He saw everything coming. That fight went exactly the way I thought it was going to go. Go back and watch the preview show. It's exactly what I said was going to happen. Jared's going to do enough.

when things get real chaotic, which they will at some point, and they did in this fight, Jared just can't get crazy with it, like most of Patty's opponents have. They're in these tough spots. They're in these crazy scrambles. Patty takes the back so well.

He just has to relax. If he can just relax and just embrace the chaos, he'll win a decision. And that's exactly the fight I thought we were going to get. And then the judges came. And it's just wild, man. It's just wild. I don't think it's a robbery.

I think Jared Gordon got hosed a bit, deserved that win. But I'll say this, and we can continue on this conversation. This was by far, like you want to say Glover Tosherro is the biggest winner of UFC 282? That's a great choice. It's probably the correct answer.

The second biggest winner, and I'm not even talking about the fight itself and the judging and anything. The second biggest winner was Patty Pimbley. And the reason is this was the best thing that could have happened to him. He's the talk of the town, whether you like him or not. He's causing debate and will continue to do so. His next fight is going to be super intriguing to everybody. And here's the biggest thing. We learned enough about Patty Pimble to realize

that he ain't fighting a top 15 guy next and maybe he won't ever fight a top 15 guy. And that is spectacular for him. Because what we learned on Saturday, whether you scored the fight for Jared Gordon or scored it for Patty Pimblit. Patty's not beating anybody in the top 50. He's going to have a rough time with any of these guys. Like, there is no world I'm picking Patty Pimbleau to beat Isma Goulof, Jalen Turner, Armand Sarukion, Grant Dawson, all these guys in the top 15.

Maybe Tony Ferguson, but I still think Tony would have a decent chance in that fight because I don't think Patty's going to kill him on the feet. but I honestly think this is the best thing that could have happened to Patty because he gets the win and it's probably the best thing he could happen for the UFC too because you could still book him in England

you could still book him in a main event on a fight night and he could just fight like and I know I picked Terrence McKinney as his next opponent because now it makes sense no matter what happens at UFC 283 in Terrence's fight you can make that fight happen

and I think Terrence could win but I actually think Patty has a shot Because Terrence Terence is just an absolute firecracker. But if Patty can survive a first-round scare and that fight gets extended,

Patty can beat Terrence McKinney. So there's options, but the good news for Patty Pimblit fans is now he doesn't have to fight a top 15 guy. He's not going to fight a killer. He's going to fight somebody decent. McKinney is going to be a tough one for him,

but it's a fight he can, win and then you just keep him far away from these top 15 guys the UFC has learned and we have all learned that the Patty Pimbled championship run or anything like that it's not there and we know that and that's okay and that's okay there are fighters in the UFC who don't need to fight for titles and don't need to even contend for titles Derek Lewis Kevin Holland guys like that guys we just love Guys, we enjoy watching. Guys, we have reactions to no matter what. But they don't have to fight for titles, and that's okay.

That's totally okay. And Patty is now in there. And that's fine. That's fine. And that's totally okay. Boating for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Ugh, what? Sounds like Ojo time.

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Tom, are you there? Around the world in 90 seconds and bring it back. where I started. First point, judges. Topic of the conversation of the evening, absolutely. On the Paddy-Baddy point, he's here for a good time. He's not here for a long time. At most, he's got another 10 fights, absolute most. More probably like 7. I disagree with you a little bit, and I do think that his crescendo will be a Tony Ferguson, because Tony Ferguson is coming down the hill and that dissent can be rather rapid. So I can see a big fight in the UK with a big name like Ferguson because a lot of the UK

fans are not aware of the top 15 that you made out there. There are better fights there for Paddy and fights that he would probably lose. But Tony Ferguson maybe has that right balance of a big, well-known name in the UK. A long time. Let's all let's also remember to Shira. He deserves his flowers. He deserves this. The UFC gods have worked in his favour, and he now has a chance to go down in history

as recapturing the title as a 93-year-old man. It's fantastic. It does suck, as you said, for Anthony Smith, which brings me back to my original point, judges. You listen to Anthony Smith, his analysis on fights. Obviously, he's got a long time to go in the UFC, but surely now with judges, we've got to get a diversity of judges where we have the commission people, but some ex-fighters,

a ground guy and a stand-up guy in that panel of three, or increase that panel to five judges perhaps, get ex-fighters who know the game inside out and are looking for things within the context of the rules, which the judges missed because we're still dealing with ex-boxing judges who are judging UFC rounds I have no idea what's going on. So those are my three points.

So, Paddy, good time, not a long time. Glover to shave her deserves every look of the break of the green he gets. And finally, judges, why are we still dealing with these commissioned dumpties who don't know the bigger picture? Thank you for you time. God bless you all. Thanks, Tom. And looking, I'm with you.

I'm not saying the Ferguson fight is okay, but I don't want to see it. And the reason why is, Patty, like goes out and beats Tony. Like, what's the point? He goes out there and gets a big win over Tony Ferguson. But if he does that, then you have to throw him in there with one of these monsters. And he's just going to get exposed. And I don't think that's what we're trying to do here anymore.

Like Jared Gordon, I like Jared Gordon. Wiley Veteran, been doing this for a minute. Very solid hand. But he's probably like a top 30 guy. And he struggled. Jared beat him up. Jared beat him up and probably won that fight. But can you imagine what happens if you chuck him in there?

Because if he had gone out there and finished Jared Gordon, the fight I've been saying is he needs to fight Jalen Turner because Jalen's an interesting cat, but not a lot of people know how interesting of a cat he is. And you throw him in there with Patty, he gets a big win, he probably just Merks Patty. And then he gets the rub, and that's cool. Like, that's cool.

That's a win-win. Because if somehow Patty beats Jalen Turner, we're like, all right, we were all wrong about this guy. But if Jalen beats him, he gets the rub. A lot of people don't like Patty. So he gets the fan appeal, so to speak, from that. So I liked that. But, I mean, we've seen enough to know that.

And you mentioned it too. Patty's been fighting for a while. It's been fighting for over a decade as a professional, is a professional. He's won a lot, lost few, but what you see is what you get. This is who he is. This is who he's going to be for the rest of his career. And that's okay. That's okay.

He's capped. He's reached his ceiling. Could there be like little strategic tweaks he can make sure, but in terms of like his overall fighting style, this is who he is. It's who he is. And he's done a lot with this. And he'll continue to do well as a star, or a star in potential. He'll continue to sell out arenas.

He'll continue to have interest for his fights. He just won't be a champion. And that's all right. That's fine. The UFC has invented titles before. Maybe they'll invent another title for Patty. Who the hell knows? But I'm with you on the Glover thing,

and the judging needs some work. but this is kind of the conversation we're going to be having for a long time, I think. Here's a man who is in Las Vegas for the festivities. My man, Jose Young's. Hi, Jose. Are you there? All right. I'm not hearing you.

Try again, Jose. Let's go to AA. It usually takes a second to get AA connected. Hey, there he is. How are you? Hello. Good. What's up?

Well, the LSC 282 was just a big mess, wasn't it? It was just a big mess beforehand, and it was a mess during, I guess because of the whole light, heavyweight situation. But I've got a question. My question is, what's next to both are Billy Q and Alexander Hernandez? All right, that's all I've got. Everyone, you're awesome. Have a great day.

Peace. Interesting question. I mean, Billy Q, the options are applied. people just want to watch this kid fight. He's the man. I mean, there's no Billy Q, there's no boring Billy Q fights. And what a frigging fight that was with Alexander Hernandez.

So I love the Nate Landware idea. That one would just be a scrap. But you can't really go wrong with him. Just, yeah, chuck them in there with somebody else who's fun. And it's just a nice little, it's a nice little thing to have Billy Q on a card and like seeing him in front of people and in front of big crowds and lend them react to him.

Billy Q's the man. Great win. For Hernandez, I don't know, man. I don't know. Because Hernandez had a great first round. He just, I don't know, he just can't get it together because he looked like a killer in that first round. I'm like, oh, man, maybe 1.45 is his home.

And then we just saw Billy Q turn. turning on. We saw Hernandez just start to fade and I don't know, man. I don't know what you do with them, honestly. It's just what like Hernandez is going to be one of those guys that 10 years from now we look back on and we're just like, man. Because the Benile Daryush win is just, it was such a blessing and a curse for this guy. Because he went out there and just, starched him in seconds. Then he fights Olivia Ob and Mercier and just one of those grindy types of performances that,

I mean, that one actually impressed me more than anything. That actually impressed me more than the B'Neilwit. He hated that performance, talking to him afterwards, but I thought that was super impressive to just be able to control a guy like that in your second UFC fight for 15 minutes like that. That was really impressive.

And then the Seroni thing happened, and it's been all sort of downhill ever since for him. And he just never really got the normal newcomer build that a lot of these guys have had the chance to get. He basically got chucked in there with one of the best lightweights in the world in his very first fight, gets a quick finish. You can't just go backwards from there. You just have to go forwards. and it's just been it's going to be a weird retrospective when we look back on the career of Alexander Hernandez.

I don't know what they're going to do with him. I don't know if he's going to stay at 45 or if he's going to get released. If he's going to just fight at 55, I don't know. He's such an interesting case. I honestly have no idea what they're going to do with him. But Billy Q, just chuck him in there with somebody who can throw hands

and just let's create some fireworks. You can't really go wrong with Bill. But Hernandez, that's a whole different conversation. Let's go to Mike. What's that, Mike? Are you there, Mike? Yep, I got you. How are you, man?

I got you. Hey, Mike. How's it going? I don't know if you can hear me or not. Yeah, my two things. I guess I would have to say would be about with the main event, with Glover and Uncle I have. To me, I'm not really upset with the draw.

It kind of felt. like I felt pride ruled us. I did give y'all in the first three and then going into the last two, that last round was super dominant. So I agree with the draw. I'm happy for Glover to get a second shot. And on the fact of Patty and the Patty fight and this decision-making there and what we got to do with judges,

I think the move, I think each major organization, PFL, Belator, the UFC, they need to do a year-end evaluation. on these judges to give them some type of repercussion. If they're not going to have talking points at the end and have their own press conferences, have the organizations do it privately a year-end or evaluation and give them three, six, 12-month suspensions, if I don't do good at my job, you know, I lose that job or I get suspended or I get, you know, whatever it might be. So, you know, they got to have some repercussions because to have Doug Crosby go from Connecticut

to Vegas in like two-day spans and give out a 55. 45 and then the 2928 to Patty and then give Gordon the third round would like literally flip the rounds around like if anybody says it's Gordon one two and then Patty three and then Doug Crosby to give Patty one two and then give Gordon three it's just it looks crazy um love the show happy to be on appreciate it thanks man I mean I get it I put a little tweak on your suggestion only because the UFC and PFL and Bellator, like, they don't decide who judges fights. It's up to the commission to assign the judges. So maybe you have some judging experts for each organization and they can lay out, they can write up a little, you know, a little report

on certain judges, what they noticed, if there's certain deficiencies that need to be fixed. And they can suggest these things, but they can't change anything. There's nothing they can change. It's up to the commissions to do these things. It's up to the commissions to do suspensions, up to the commissions to have meetings and different things to talk about the judges. It's all on them. It's all on them. Now, could these promotions offer suggestions? Sure. But can they just say, nah, Doug Crosby ain't judging any of our fights? No. They don't have that power. That's up to the commissions to do that. But I'd love to see the commissions have these meetings, open them up to the public. Like, we don't, like the media doesn't even have

to ask questions. Just have a meeting like every quarter, do it on Zoom or something, have a judge come up and jump on a Zoom and then they can just ask these judges questions and we can watch them. We can watch their responses. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. and just the public can watch and see what they have to say. But I don't know. I mean, I don't know how to fix it. CFFC, I remember, this is like 2015 or 2016. They tried something where, and this wasn't official,

they would have like the three judges at Cage site, but just with an experiment, they had three other judges kind of in the back room, like in their own space, where they had headphones on, the broadcast was on, they couldn't hear any of the commentary or the crowd, and they watched the fights,

and then they gave their cards and tried to compare the two. I would like to see something like that. I mean, I don't know how you do it, but I don't know if you just have, like, three individual judging boxes where they just have monitors and headphones, and you have, like, a commission official in there with them just to make sure there's no tomfoolery or cheating or anything. And you just have them judge based on the Bronx.

but not with the sound on, if that makes any sense. Just watch the fights for what they are. They get the angles. They get to deal with that. And then they submit their scores, however they see fit. But they got to do something. They got to do something because this has been a very interesting year for judges and scorecards.

And now we had an event that started off so well that all the first 10 fights in a vacuum are all exciting and cool and fun, but all we're all. we're talking about is judging and it takes away from the athletes and you never want to see an event end like that where that's the talking point let's go to michel hello michel are you there all right try again let's go to viking and then we'll go to frankie we'll try to get michel one more time that we'll go to frankie see if we can get viking hello viking hello Hello, Mike, can you hear me? Yes.

So I was listening to the Five Disciple podcast, which was hosted by the UFCBT Sports presenters, and they were talking about Darantil, and one of the hosts said in regards to Till that he still not able to let go his previous losses. and those losses are haunting him and that's why he's not performing in his fights this was the first time I saw Darren Tills fights so I don't know what happened in the past I don't know what was the story of his every fight from the past

so what are your thoughts on that not letting go statement I mean I know he's not going to be the champ or will be because, you know, he has to go through guys like Bonicle and Dagestani, Doodikram, who was on the floor unconscious for five minutes when my brother Hamzat knock him out. And about judging, it was the same Ron McCarthy, you know, who was able to see that female fighter tapped at the apex.

when even camera person did not have an angle on that area of an octagon, but he was unable to see Jared Gordon scoring more points than Paddy. And is Jose still there or not? Because I have a question for him. No, he's not here. All right, then. I'll ask him on the time. Thank you.

Thanks, buddy. Yeah, Darren Till's an interesting one too. that was a crazy-ass fight. That was a 10-8. Could have been a 10-7 in a lot of people's eyes. And then Till came out in like the final 30 seconds of the first round and landed some shots and took some momentum over and had a great second round.

And it looked like he might get DDP out of there at certain points. But DDP ends up finishing him in the third round. Yeah, he's another interesting tale in this sport where, I don't know, man. He could have, this guy could have a seven-fight losing. streak right now. Think about that. A seven-fight losing streak. Because he lost a Wonderboy,

100%. You want to, I mean, the Gasill one was just such an awful fight, so it doesn't really batter all that much. But yeah, interesting. I don't know where he goes from here. He's going to say he's going to take some time off. He says he tore his ACL. I don't know how much truth there is to that. If that's real or not, maybe it could have just been like the aftermath

of the fight. I don't know. but I actually kind of agree with DDP because he DDP is the one that kind of put that out there originally like eh I don't think he's gotten over the losses I think they're hindering him moving forward but he also said at the post fight he doesn't think Darren's a middleweight Darren should be a welterweight he's just he's just not big enough

not strong enough I'd like to see TILBaka 170 if we're being honest but it's just up to him he's got to make that decision he's got to take the nutrition part of it seriously and take some time use this time to heal up and transform your body back to a middleweight it's not like he's 35 years old he's still in his 20s but i think that's his best that's his best route go to 170 do it do it in a healthy way and try to build your way up there because man it's freaking crazy all right let's go to frankie frankie hello Frankie, are you there?

Frankie, you've got to unmute yourself. Inshallah, brother. How are you? How are you? Good, how are you? What is your name, sir? My name is Mike. Okay.

Do you want to speak about something real, or do you want to speak about nonsense? Well, what do you want to talk about? Do you understand the mission of the UFC? Do you understand why they exist for influence? Fighters fight for influence. When the top fighter is in the top. top position and he has the top influence over the world. You understand this?

So you realize Mr. Habib Narmagma-Ga-Madro's mission, do you not? I know who Habib is. You all need to take a knee and follow behind him because he is our best hope. Inshallah, brother, you need to understand this. Do you understand this? Inshallah, Habib does not fight anymore because he already proved himself to be the greatest fighter in the world, all times, greater than Muhammad Ali, greater than anybody else. And all he's trying to do now is lead us to the light. And now we have fighters like Alexander Volcanovsky,

who are demons. A lot of people who fight in the UFC are demons. They are there to destroy and cause chaos and destruction to the world. Inshallah, brother, I will defend Habib's honor and his mission with my life. If you want to stop us, you have to kill us. You understand. this? Sounds good, my man. I appreciate your passion. And Halbib is one of the all-time greats.

Can't deny him. He's one of the all-time great coaches now. He's on his way. That's for sure. I wouldn't call Volkovsky a demon. I think he's far from that. But, hey,

it's your opinion, my man. Let's go to Tom. Hey, Tom. Well, yeah, I don't know what that was. That kind of just, for me, off guard, but a odd way to jump in after that. But yeah, I was really just going to agree with you on the whole Darren Till thing. I mean, we saw it.

I don't know about you guys, but it looked like at least a 10 to 15 pounds size disadvantage for him on Saturday. And in the division where you have guys like Paula Costa, Alex Bahaya, who are cutting 25, 30 pounds, it's when you're only cutting 10 pounds or so like Darren Till is at that weight class, it doesn't make sense. You need to go back down to 170 when you were a big welterweight had a good strength, size advantage. You don't have that at middleweight. His power hasn't really translated too much to middleweight either, so 170 has to be the next route. And just kind of agreeing with you on there. And next, one I'd really like to see after the other night is, what do you think, Chris Curtis, DDP, after that?

I'm really intrigued by that performance, two guys who are going to go out there, put on a very entertaining fight, two good personalities. So there we go. Thanks, man. Yeah, I don't think they'll go that route. I think DDP beating Darren Till the way that he did, undefeated in the UFC,

it's on a great winning streak. I don't think Chris is going to get that fight. I think DDP's going to get maybe the loser of the main event on Saturday or maybe he gets like a Paul Costa.

Maybe he gets I don't know, somebody like that. I think DDP deserves maybe Barbatory type somebody like that, but I don't think he's going to step back and fight Chris Curtis after beating Dary and Till. Now, Chris, look, Chris looked good. No doubt about it,

but Chris also is coming off a pretty definitive loss, short notice or not, to Jack Hermanson. So, I don't know, maybe do DDP versus Roman DeLite. That's fun as hell too. So, yeah, I don't think I'd go with Curtis in that spot, but we'll see what happens.

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Chi Jioch? I hope I have that right. Are you there? What's up, Mike? How you doing? All right. Got a couple questions. So let's talk about the Chris Dawkins

and his fight last week and how he needs to drop down to middleweight because I don't think, I think he'll be a little bit, outmatched in the light heavyweight division just because those guys are fucking monsters and uh also his brother i felt like his brother might need a cut cut a little bit more since he is a bigger guy i felt like i feel like if he cuts down to uh what is it like what to wait i feel like he'll have a better chance of uh actually getting you know some notable

wins under his belt And second question is, now that they announced the Glover and Jamal Hill fight in Brazil, do you feel for the flight weights and how they don't get a main event spot? Like, I really thought this Brazil car was going to be, you know, that flyweight main event, and they finally get, you know, they finally get the last fight. But now that they announced this, the vacant for the light heavyweight title, I feel like this is obviously the new main event for UFC Brazil. Appreciate you.

You have a good morning. Thanks, man. Yeah, I mean, I get it. The timing is what it is. But again, here's, this is kind of, it's kind of worked out for the UFC because we haven't heard anything about Brandon Moreno since this James Krause news came out. We haven't heard anything.

Nothing. There's literally nothing. Like, we don't even know if this fights 100%. percent happening yet or not. Like, we just, we don't know. So, worst case scenario, this is a backup plan. Like, if something happens and Moreno can't go, we can't get that fight on the books, we got Glover headlining in Brazil, which is what he wanted to begin with.

So they did, that, that card needed another title fight or another big fight. That one was hurting real bad. But now they got a second fight. And I guess you can kind of feel for him, but who knows what the talks behind? the scenes were. That fight when it was first put together for this card wasn't meant to be the main event. It wasn't meant to be the main event. They were, they were hoping to land something else, maybe get Nunes on the card. But that wasn't, that was just there as a title fight, but it wasn't, it wasn't positioned to be the main event when it was first initially booked. At least that's what I

was told. Now it's a co-main event and it is what it is. I don't really feel bad for those guys, because, but I also don't know what's going on either with this whole James Krause situation and how Moreno feels about it and all of that. So, yeah, that was tough. And I don't think Chris Dawkins has dropped it to 185. That's, that's wild. Four-quarter sports. Hey, good morning, Mike.

I do feel that I want to talk about Patty briefly. I think we've found out his limitations. The man, I mean, I think you have mentioned it before. he's like the person that the WWE would try to put out there to fight like locals, like your Funakis or your Jimmy Wang Yangs. He's just fighting lower to your guys at Lightweight.

I can't see him at any point in his career maybe dropping down with the weight class, but it's not like by the way it would actually make it any better. I mean Lightway is just a shark tank full of killers and he's just not going to get anywhere near the top 20,

top 25, in my opinion. But I wanted to talk about Darren Till. Well, we saw what transpired in the first round. And I don't know if how you saw the first round. Did you think

that they should have stopped it at some point? Because at one point, DDP was blanking him 60 to nothing when it comes to stripes. And I thought that, I thought at one point they could have stopped it. But if there was a 175 pound division,

you think Darren still could exceed? because I just felt that Darren Till struggled to make weight, you know, at 170. I know he should probably move down to 170. But, I mean, what's your thoughts on that? And then also, I don't remember who said it. I don't know if it was D.C. or Rogan that said it, but they had said, you know, when Till was shaking hands with Bisfink, that Bistink was the past, Till is the present, and then Patty is the future.

I think we need to give some respect to Leon Edwards, because he is actually the wealth-to-weight champion of the world. And he is from England. And he is somebody that, you know, we didn't expect him to knock out Kamar Usman. And Darren Till, for all that's worth, I mean, what, his best win was Cowboy Soroni. And that was, you know, Cowboys Serrani at the back nine of his career.

So I don't know. I think Darren Till is just somebody that he needs to take some time off. I think that, you know, he needs to fight, you know, people that are lower tier at middleweight if he wants to remember. remain at middleweight, but if he wants to go down to a welts away, he's really got to, you know, figure it out with the nutrition aspect. I mean, one fight that I would like to see, and, you know, I feel like he'll be fairly competitive just because this guy would bring it.

It's Kevin Holland, Kevin Holland and Darren Till, you know, make it for 170. I think that could be a very good stylistic matchup for both of them, and both of them have a big name. I mean, that could feature to a fight night main event. I don't know, what's your thoughts, Mike? Thanks. I mean, you could do that at 170 or 185. and it would work.

So, yeah, I got no issue with that. I got no issue with that. Attil has just found his way. And, I mean, I'm not going to recap everything Jed Michoud said, but Jed said essentially that, you know, he's one of the best at just failing upwards. Lewis gets knocked up by Mazadol and gets a big fight and lose, all this stuff.

Like, he's still a start. He's still a name. So, but with that, you have to, he's just in a top. spot right now. He's just in a tough spot because he's just going to be, his name's going to be used to elevate newer talent, just like we saw with, with DDP. But if you want to do him in Holland, you want to just do fun fights with Darren Till, I'm cool with that. But we don't need to make either guy cut to 170 to make that fight happen. We can just have him fight at 185. And it's the same. Neither of those guys are contending for titles. So you can just, they're big names and

they can just fight each other. That's okay. We'll go to Crying Belly. We'll go to Crypto next. Then we got a couple more and then I've got to get out of here. Crying, how are you? I was listening for a while and I just wanted to kind of defend Paddy Pimbley a little bit. I feel like everybody's like putting him on the level of expectations as if he's like a contender or something like that.

And personally, I think he won the fight just based off of the, uh, of what I saw and also the the total like fight stats or whatever just because like I don't know if the I haven't watched the USC for too long but like I know that if Patty threw more significant strikes or landed more significant strikes and through more total strikes he was more busier I think the control means nothing if you didn't do anything with it and I think and I think Patty went a third round

the second round. And I think people are talking him down as if he's like a contender and comparing him to Connor McGregor. And it's like Connor McGregor is a legend for a reason. You know what I mean? So I think Patty has a bright future and I think people are just

like discrediting him. You know, how do you feel about that? I mean, I appreciate that. How do you define bright future though? Like if you're defining bright future as a title contender, then I just don't agree with you.

He got, I mean, Patty got, I don't like to use the word exposed, but I think most people who've watched Patty fight, even in Cage Warriors, realize that the guy's got limitations. And now the vast majority of people can see what those limitations are. He's not going to be a champion. He's not going to beat a top 10 guy of 55. And this is not a knock on him. It's just the world we live in and the evolution. of the sport and the guys who are in this division.

I mean, outside of maybe Tony Ferguson, who's clearly on the back nine, he's probably on the 17th right now for being honest. Is there one guy at 55 you think Patty is even competitive with? I don't. But again, that's okay. That's okay. You can have a great living. You could do very well in this sport without fighting for a title,

especially in the UFC. Patty is not going to beat a lot of top 20-55ers. She just isn't. But that's okay. That's okay. And again, if you want to score it for Patty, like it's a close fight. I don't think it's on second watch earlier this morning.

I don't think it's a robbery. I don't think it's a robbery. I do think scoring the first round for Patty is ridiculous. That's bad judging. It's bad judging. Because that was the clearest. round of the fight. You can make cases for both guys in two and three. You can't make a case for Patty in the first. You can't. I don't think it's a robbery. I think Jared won the first two

rounds. I scored the third for Patty as well. Even live, I scored the third round for Patty because like you said, I don't think the control meant a whole lot. And neither guy did anything really in that round, but Patty at least landed some strikes that had some significance to them. I also I just hate the significant strike statistic because like what the hell is a significant strike? Like what is it? Like how do you define a significant strike? Like I know it's easy to say. Well, even watching it live like some of those rounds like in the second round like Patty was patty was throwing and he was a little more active in the second but he wasn't landing anything. He wasn't he was hitting Gordon into the arms. Gordon was evading a lot of the damaging shots.

but Gorda was hitting him in the face over and over again. Patty was landing some shots, but a lot of those were blocked by Jared Gordon. And you notice that like it's not the same as the Chris Curtis-Waqeen Buckley fight, but Buckley was landing against him and he seemed to be kind of pulling away a little bit. But if you go back and watch, Chris Curtis was getting hit in the arms like 80% of the time. That's why Chris even posted on social media yesterday.

Like, face is fine. My arms hurt because I blocked all of his strikes for the most part. So, yeah, I don't think anyone's, Patty's put himself in this position. He doesn't say a lot of good things. I do like the mental health. It's just weird how he could just flip the narrative so quickly on himself. It's wild. he says these just awful things during fight week and then you know i don't want to see any bullying

happening but yet we see him trying to bully people and all these different things i i don't know i don't know guys got a ceiling on him he's got a ceiling he's reached it in my opinion in terms of skill and evolution he patty pimblatt is this is who he is this is who he is as a fighter If he fights top 30 guys, he can hang with some of them. He's going to lose to almost all of them. That's just who he is. And again, that's okay. Kevin Holland is the man.

He's a star. People love him. He's an exciting fighter. But Kevin Holland's not going to be a world champion. That's fine. That's totally okay. Let's go to Crypto. Crypto, what's up?

How are you? So first of all, regarding the significance strikes, I completely agree. And for anyone that would like to see that put into practice, watch, for example, the Marlon Vera Rob Font fight, where I think, I don't remember, but like Font landed at least twice as many significant strikes. Maybe even more. I don't remember. But like, if you looked at the stats of that fight, you would be like, oh, yeah, Rob Funt won

that fight. But when you looked at Rob Fond's face compared to Marlon Vera, you realized that. that significant strikes is there might be a correlation, but it doesn't tell the complete story. Secondly, Mike, you started off the show by saying that you actually, yeah, if you saw robbery at the bar, you might go over there and have a talk. You're not going to ask robbery out for a date. For me, Mike, if I see robbery at the bar, I'm asking robbery to marry me, and one year later, we're raising a kid, because that was disgusting. the judges did to Gordon. I think that we need to say what we actually witness. We need to

call it like it is, Mike. Because you said it yourself, Mike, there's no way that the judge could give the first round to Patty. There's no way. And that was the decisive round. I was so upset when I heard Dana talking about the third round saying that Gordon basically didn't do enough. He took his foot off the pedal and so on. Well, the third round was actually scored for Gordon. So, I mean, if that's not a robbery, then nothing is a robbery. I mean, what, like, that's so crazy. And also seeing Crosby, I'm so tired of this guy, Mike. I mean, Sabatelo is one thing, but I think, I don't know, I think it was Frankie Edgar and BJ Penn wasn't that one fight where he scored, I think he gave it like 50, 45 to Edgar. And Frankie. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean,

this guy is complete, I mean, he's a complete lunatic. And there's some other issues. with this guy. Conflicts of interest and so on. I'm not going to get into that. But it's, I mean, if this is not a robbery, Mike, I mean, I don't, like, it's, it's impossible to score that first round to Patty. And even a certain, a certain known person criticized his own son, okay, that also was a judge in that, in that fight and said that there's no way, no way Patty won that fight. It's, it's absolutely crazy. So if the question is if Patty won the second or the third round, sure, you could have that discussion.

But if the judges would have scored the second and the third round, the way they did, but gave the first round to Gordon, which we all agree is the obvious decision, then Gordon would have won. I think it's absolutely disgusting. And also seeing Patty after the fight asking Dana for fight of the night. I mean, come on. This guy has completely lost it.

And I think that for anyone that thinks that Patty, that this is like a game he's playing, almost like Kobe Covington becoming this bad game, this is not a conscious choice. Okay, this is, this is who Patty is. He is a douchebag. He is a complete delusional douchebag. He absolutely 100% believes that he won that fight, that he dominated the fight, and that he is the best fighter in the world. He truly does believe that.

And maybe that is what you need to believe if you're in this game. but Mike, please just let's push for Paddy to get a fight against Jalen Turner let's just make that happen so we can stop talking about this guy I mean this guy annoys me more than Henry Sehudo to be honest with you. I mean

I'm just if the continuation of Paddy will be against mid-level fighters on London cards and we have to see him once again bragging about how great he is I think I'm actually Yeah, I'm unsubscribing. I'm not going to watch any fight cards with Patty anymore

because I'm just so tired of him. If he's that freaking good and great, give him Jalen Turner, give him Armand Sarukhan, give him a good opponent. And let's see how freaking good he is. Let's just, I mean, it's, I'm just so tired of him, Mike. So, yeah, I want you,

yeah, I want you take on that mic, because as you said, if the first round is an obvious round for Gordon, then how is that not a robbery? I mean, the second and the third round, let's keep the scoring as it is from the judges. But you said it to yourself, Mike, the first round, it's impossible to score that round for Paddy,

hence it is also a robbery. Yeah, that's it, Mike. Thank you. Hey, what can I say? That's just how I scored it. Like to me, yeah, the first round is atrocious. So, I mean, it's the closest thing to a, like, out and out, all-and-out robbery, as you're going to see this year. But just me watching it in the vacuum, how I scored the fight,

as a whole, it's not. You want to give two to Patty? I don't think you're right, but there's a case to be made. And the third could have gone either way. Because if we're looking at it from the way you're putting it out there, I thought it's not clear, but I thought Patty, to me, the second round is the swing round. Because I thought Gordon won the first, and I thought Patty won the third. So, you know what I mean? If they score it that way, they give Gore, it's still, it's still going to be a Patty fight.

because the judges that scored it for Jared would score for Patty in the third. So I don't know, man. We're going to be talking about this for a minute, but it is what it is. All right, we've got to take two more. I have to go. I know a lot of you are waiting,

and I apologize, but it's just one of those days. So we'll go to George. We'll go to Tristan. David Wayne, the longest. I'm screenshoting the rest of you all, and you guys will jump the line on Thursday. George hello all right

nothing there Tristan listen you know I was watching out know yesterday and you really think Dan Hooker

could just run through Patty Pindlet listen I'm with AK I don't know that I think I think Patty has a good chance against Dan Hooker and I even think he has a good chance

against Michael Chandler but this is the whole thing about squatting in your rank because I don't think Dan Hooker and I don't think Michael Chandler should be in the top 15 because I think they're on the downside of their careers. Yes, they're exciting and they're big names,

but I think they're on the downside of their careers. I think their chins are gone because, yeah, you know, Hooker beat Clodier Pellas, but Clodian Fers is not a good striker, right? And we've seen Hooker get dropped time and time again. We've seen Chandler get time and time again. And here's the thing about Patti. Say what you want, but that guy has a great chin.

That guy could eat shots, then come back in the fight and just be chaos. So listen, I'm not a biggest Patty fan. And again, I'm not, listen, I don't think, I don't think, I'm not sure. Obviously, it'll be difficult. I don't think you could be the armist, Rukki, and G. And J. Lantern is the up and coming process. This is the whole thing about scouting your ranks, I mean, squatting on your ranks

because there's people in the top 15 that we think that doesn't really deserve to be in the top 15. You're Tony Ferguson. Dan Hook is one of them. And I think Michael Chandler as well, like, because, and you talked about on out, like, this is not, Michael Chandler, this is not. Bellator Michael Chandler. You know, this is not, this is UFC Michael Chandler, who's aging. And I, listen, I disagree against those two Pacific fighters, Dan Hooker and Michael Chandler.

I think he got a shot. I think he had a chance to beat those two guys. And that's the tough part. If he goes out there and beats Dan Hooker, he's in the top of team, now it's like, you're kind of screwing him because now he's going to be facing killers that might be under him or above him on things that nature. So, you know, like, A, K, and you said, and you said, oh, I don't know. Like, if he fought Michael Chandler, you think Michael Chandler would win,

but he can make it interesting. I think he can make it definitely interesting against Dan Hooker because those Hooker's chin and Michael Chandler's chin, they can't hold up anymore. I think they've taken a lot of damage, and Patty Penland, he shows that he could eat a lot of shots. Like, every time he got hit by Gordon yesterday, he just shook it off, you know, like and look he he hasn't been finished he's been he's he hasn't been knocked out he's been

finished one time i think early in his career he got submitted but other than that this guy you can i mean i i think in his first fight he got cracked so many times but he ate it like it was nothing and i was just like oh okay this guy could hold up so if he goes in there and goes and just scraps with dan hooker and michael chanler i think he got a shot you know again i'm with a k i think he got a shot So I saw I have to say about that. Thanks, Mike. I think you're absolutely insane. I think you're insane.

Sorry, I think you're nuts. We, like, it's amazing. And I'm not saying you're doing this, Tristan, but it's amazing just looking at how people react to Dan Hooker as a fighter. It's just hilarious. The dude went hammer and tongs for 25 minutes with Dustin Porier. Like, it was a super close fight. Corey won in the fifth

he gets bolted by Michael Chandler who by the way has bolt has dropped and hurt pretty much everybody's fought since coming over to the UFC and the reason why I think the Chandler one's interesting is because I don't think

I don't think Chandler I think Chandler has become like has gotten to like fun fight territory at this point so I actually think that makes a little more sense you could just do that because I don't

I just don't see Chandler fighting for the belts again anytime soon with the way this division looks. And hooker ain't fighting for the belt either, but, I mean, his losses are to Porie, Chandler, Islam Makachas, who is the best layweight in the world, and he dropped to 145 and fought maybe the best featherweight, the best surging featherweight in this division, and he got cracked. I just don't think Patty does the same.

And Dan, Dan actually would be a really interesting opponent because I think, if Jared Gordon can drag Patty into the mud Dan Hooker's going to bury him in the mud and not saying Patty can't get out of it but it's a whole different thing man it's a whole different it's a whole different thing

it's a whole different style I just I think I actually think it's a really hard matchup for him I think it's a really tough fight for him but I don't know I don't think we're going to have to worry about it anyways because I don't think the UFC's got to put him in there with Dan Hooker, because I don't think that makes a ton of sense.

Now, I wouldn't put him in there with Chandler now. Bellator Chandler kills Patty. If he can find some sort of middle ground, like if Chandler, if his whole game plan is just, I'm going to go in there and use my best weapons to my advantage and I'm just going to win and not worried about I'm here to put on a war for the fans, that Chandler's going to whoop Patty Pimble. But I just don't know if he would do that. I don't know if, because this is a different.

guy. This is a let's give the fans what they want kind of guy. This isn't all about, of course, he wants to win, but it's more about let's give the fans what they want and give him a show. But I think Chandler's going to be pushing for that Connor fight and he'll probably get it. I don't know. There's fights for Patty. I love the Terrence McKinney idea because that's a fight. That's a 50-50 fight to me. A lot of people think Terrence just kills him. And maybe he does. but I think Patty's durability makes that fight really interesting. Because Terrence is fantastic in the first like six minutes of a fight. But if he starts to fade, Patty can take over.

So I like that fight and that's a fun fight. You can main, you can headline a fight night with that one. But to say like Patty has a clear chance against these guys, I think you're crazy. I think you're all crazy. I think AK's crazy. My best friend is crazy. Dan's a minus 200 favor in that fight in my eyes. But that's just one man's opinion.

All right, I have to go. Time is running out. FPL, Joe, Gero, A.U. George, Julio. Come back on Thursday. Come back on Thursday. I'm going to screenshot a second time, so it's just banked in my memory.

Boom. There you are. Come back Thursday, 10 a.m. Any you six gentlemen jump in at any point, you cut the line. You cut the damn line, baby. That's how it works. So I'm sure we'll be talking about this and a lot more. We have the final UFC events of the year coming up on Saturday.

So we can talk about that, talk about whatever you want. But until then, everybody, thank you very much. Have a great rest of the day. And as always, have a heck of a morning. network.