MMA Fighting - HOAM | Was the Grasso vs. Shevchenko 10-8 the Most Egregious Scorecard Ever?

Episode Date: September 19, 2023

Alexa Grasso and Valentina Shevchenko put on one of 2023's best fights in the main event of Noche UFC this past Saturday, and while the fight was so great, the story is about Mike Bell's 10-8 scorecard for the fifth round, a score that cost Shevchenko the flyweight title. Was Bell's fifth-round score the worst in the history of the UFC? On an all-new edition of Heck of a Morning, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck reacts to the incredible rematch between Grasso and Shevchenko, the egregious nature of Bell's scorecard, and whether or not the trilogy should be next. Additionally, listener topics include Israel Adesanya's silence following his UFC 293 loss to Sean Strickland, Raul Rosas Jr.'s next step after his quick win this past Saturday, Kevin Holland's performance in a split decision loss to Jack Della Maddalena, Tracy Cortez's flyweight title hopes after her win over Jasmine Jasudavicius, the top of the UFC welterweight division being completely stagnant, and much more. You can listen live to Heck of a Morning Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays at 10 a.m. ET on the MMA Fighting Twitter Spaces. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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September 19th, 2023, and it is indeed a heck of a morning. We are live on the M.A. Fighting Twitter spaces. You can hear the show in its entirety shortly thereafter on the M.A. Fighting Podcast. Network. What's going on, everybody? I am Mike Heck. Hope everyone had a great weekend. Hope you're having a great start to your week. We are coming off of a fun, yet somewhat controversial Noce UFC events. The main event, the rematch, Alexa Grasso versus Valentina Shepchenko.

What a friggin fight it was. Incredible battle between both of these women. in the end Alexa Grasso leaves Las Vegas still the women's flyway champion I don't know what's going on here hang on a second oh never mind okay I'm technically

I just found out I had the day off I didn't even know that so the beauty of live radio how about that but we're still going to do this show I'm not going to wrap things up but incredible fight between Grasso Chichenko

but all the the talk all the headlines are not on the two women who competed. It is on the judge. It's on the 10-8 round 5, which is just absolutely ridiculous. And look, I'm not going to go on a diatribe

about everything, how the judges should be accountable, how the commission should be accountable, because that's already been said. We've talked about this million times since Saturday. Ariel talked about it on the MAR a lot yesterday. But what I will say is there is no fucking way that that is a 10-8 round. There's no way. The only way that I will accept that being a 10-8 round is if you scored round two and

round three at 10-8. Other than that, there is no reason why. And I wouldn't do this. But I know Jed does the live blogs. He puts out his scorecards on M-A decisions. I think he scored a 47, 46 for Grasso, gave 10-8 to Grasso in round two. He gave a 10-8 to Shevchenko in round three. And he didn't even score a 10-8 in a five.

But that's the only way that is an acceptable score. And it's not acceptable. It's a terrible card. It's a terrible, terrible scorecard. And in the end, Valentina Schochenko got screwed. She got screwed. she should be the flyweight champion right now because of that fucking scorecard

I will say she was pissed on Saturday she said some things I don't think she's really gone back on what she said on Saturday but I thought her interview on the MAA yesterday was pretty fascinating it was pretty fascinating I

understood where she was coming from I thought she handled herself herself pretty well. And what I thought was super interesting about the interview is that she is leaving, she kind of wants to leave the next decision to the fans. Do you want me to fight at 125? Do you want me to fight Alexe Grasso again? Do you want me to go up to 135 and fight for the Bannamway title?

Whatever the fans want, that's what I'm going to do. To me, if Valentina Shepchenko can turn around relatively quickly the next six months or so, or whenever the UFC is ready to have this woman's fly away, title on the line. You have to give it to Valentina Shepchenko. You have to. And I know how annoying immediate rematches can be. I get it. But this one isn't solved yet. This one is insolved. The way that it went down, the way that scorecard was scored, that 10-8 fifth round, Valentina Shepchenko should be the flyway champion right now. So you have to do it again. And who is going to be mad to watch it again? That fight was incredible. The first fight,

ended in such drama in such an incredible way and then the second fight was a classic one of the best fights of the year and I see people like oh no no no we get to move on no we don't we got to see it again we got to see it again

now Valentina is banged up she has an injury I believe she broke her thumb so she's going to be out for a minute and if Alexa Grasso ends up defending the belt before Valentina is ready and she fights Aaron Blanche straight on Manon and Fioro or whatever.

Valentina's next fight should be for the belt. 100%. Unless she wants to go to 135, unless she ends up moving up, and then she'll fight for the Bannam White title and probably win the Bannam White title, if we're being honest. So just really bad stuff.

I said everything I really needed to say on the post fight show on Saturday. And it's just bad. Like, it just sucks, man. It just sucks. To have such a great fight. end in such a way because of one judge

who's a pretty good judge all in all just kind of screwing the pooch here. This is really bad. And the fact that like no one's saying anything about it does kind of drive me a little bit insane but that's the way that it is. There's no accountability in the sport,

especially when it comes to the judging and the officiating. And it drives you crazy now. The officiating is a little bit better. Some of the officials will go on and go on Twitter and tweet something out, they'll respond to fans and such. But the fact that like Vegas and Mike Bell or whatever,

just like, eh, who gives a fuck? It drives you crazy. It drives me crazy. But what an incredible fight. Just unfortunate the way that it went down. And now we'll see what happens next. Jack Della Madelana beats Kevin Holland, split decision. Not the exciting banger.

think a lot of us expected, but still fun fight. J.D.M. won. I thought he won the fight. So I have no issue with the scoring. He bounces back and we'll see what is next for him. I suggested Jeff Neal. I think that's a good fight. But there's a lot of options for Jadim right now. Raul Roche's Jr. did what many expected him to do, just icing Terence Mitchell in under a minute. I don't think anybody was really surprised by that result. Daniel Zell Huber. I'm super high on him as a prospect. Some scary moments against Christos Gagos, but he came back and got a nice slick Anaconda choke in round two

to get the win. Kyle Nelson just spoiling the party all over the place. Beats Fernando Padilla. Another close fight. I saw a lot of people scored it for Padilla, but super close. Lupi Godinez, what a performance against Elise Reid. Roman Coppulov, nasty liver punch.

We saw some bad referees. but some good officiating overall because they went to the replay, overturned things to a no contest, but it shouldn't have been that way. Edgar Chires and Daniel Lacerda ends in a no decision due to the premature stoppage by Chris Tione.

That was pretty bad. Tracy Cortez, good win over Jasmine, Jazz and Jast Abizius. That was a fun fight. Charlie Campbell knocks out Alex Reyes in a little over three minutes. And Josephine Knutzen, just kind of runs over Marnikman. Again, not a very surprising result.

But all in all, I thought Nocha UFC was incredibly fun. I loved that. This wasn't at the apex. I loved that it was a theme. The fans were into it. Everything about it, the presentation, everything was great. It was great.

I loved it. I loved the build to it. I loved how it was made a very big deal. I like how they went outside the box with the ceremonial way. doing it outside. Like, I loved everything about the mariachi band. It's okay to have fun. And at least the UFC is trying to do more fun things.

They're trying to lean into things a little bit more. I love what they've been doing with the retirements. The Robbie Lawler one sticks out the most. They're trying to do fun things. I just wish they would do these fun things more often because now we know they're capable of doing it. If they really want to do it, they could do it. And they should.

they should absolutely do it so all in all is a great event ends in controversy it's unfortunate but the fight main event was incredible hats off to both ladies Alex degroso and Valencia Shepchenco I have a feeling that fight's gonna end up on

people's fighter of the year fight of the year lists maybe in the top five but it's just great fight great fight great event and let's hear what you all have to say about it four on sniper kick us off yes sir what's up hey heck of a morning

I feel for Valentina Shepchenko. I honestly did not see this happening. I don't think anyone saw her end up getting 10-8ed in the last round. Well, she didn't really get 10-8ed, but some guy decided to give her a 10-8 round. I just wanted your quick thoughts on, what was it? Damn, I lost my train of thought. The ref from earlier in the night,

who stopped the fight prematurely, I think it was the Daniel Santos fight. I personally didn't see anything wrong with that stoppage being that when he got a little closer, Daniel decided to let his arm flop down, showing that he was unconscious. Is that a fight that they're going to run back, or do you think they just move on from that?

What do you see it happening there? So at first I was like, yeah, I get it. I get it. I think other referees may have done the same thing, but the more I talk to people in the know who know more about the stuff that I do, Harry Dominic Cruz, who I don't love his commentary

all in all, but I thought he did a really good job explaining things in this one. I thought it was a really bad stoppage, honestly. Like, there was no... If Chris Toyote had, like, raised his arm up, Daniel Seder's arm up and it flopped down, sure, stop the fight. But his legs were still under him.

He immediately protested. and it was just a bad stoppage, man. And he knew it was. Chris Tione knew it was a bad stoppage. So Daniel Lacerda at least avoids going 0 in 5 with five stoppage losses. So that's something. So maybe he gets another chance. And it's been a weird year for Edgar Chires, right?

Edgar Chires has been on an end of two just really weird submissions this year. One was the Gianni Vasquez one, which I did that big feature on in March, where Gianni was unconscious. Ref didn't stop the fight. He transitions to an arm bar. Ref still doesn't stop the fight. The arm bar wakes up Gianni Vasquez, who was unconscious from the choke. And then gets his arm badly, badly injured. And that's Edgar Chiris.

And then he gets a short-notice play with Tetsu or Tyra. Fun fight. loses and then honestly if this went in the 30 seconds I think he probably submits Daniel Osterta there so now it's a no contest I know he's appealing we all know what's going to happen

there nothing do you run it back I mean I don't care run it back if they run it back great it all depends on whether or not the UFC's just going to keep Daniel on the roster I think they'll keep Edgar on the roster not sure if

they'll keep Daniel on the roster because he's winless in five fights even though it was a weird one he's probably going to get submitted anyway so it's tough very very tough what can you do but that was bad that was pretty bad

Justin go ahead I just want to know what's the guy's name Diego Lopez is he the best player coach in the sport right now that's a great question he might be he might be

I'm trying to think like who else who else it could be that's a great question I have to really think about that one he might he's up there for sure at worst he's up there he's a fun fighter he's done a lot for Alexa Grasso's career

that's for sure he's gonna fight an MSG coming up I love that question I'm gonna have to really think about that one I'm gonna have to really think about that one I don't know how you did I think Gilbert Burns is getting more into the coaching aspect of

so I would say he's probably up there. There's, man, there's a lot. There's a lot to think about, but I fucking, God, I love that question. He's definitely up there. Love that. Thomas, go ahead. Got a couple of things. I just wanted to say in terms of the best ever sort of free fight nights.

I thought that's definitely in recent times up there with, in terms of the best free events in fight nights. It was a brilliant event, I thought. Is it a bit worrying that Valentina said that she's going to fight for years and years yet? She is 35 and she's brilliant, but if she fights for another 10 years, is that dangerous? So she fights in their 40s. She obviously lives, breeds martial arts. Last thing I would say is boxing, I've got a really bad record in terms of their scorecards

and some of that horrible scorecards you see in boxing. UFC is a lot better, but it doesn't obviously make it acceptable with that 10-8 and round 5. Yeah, it's a bad card. It's a bad card. Look, 48, 47 either way is totally acceptable. I've watched the fight three times now. I scored it for Valentina all three times. Now, if you want to score round four for Lexa Grasso, fine.

I got no issue with it. Super close. I mean, very, very close. Shit, man. If you want, if Mike Bell had scored it a 10-10 fourth round, like, I would have had no issue with the draw. None. Absolutely none. that's about as close as you can get.

That's how close that fourth round was. And I understand Alexa did some damage of those knees, and that was kind of the moment people turned to when they score for Alexa. But I thought Valentina won most of that round. But still, I have no issue with 4847 either way. You scored it for Grasso? Great. If you scored it for Scho, great.

But to cost Shvchenko, a chance to win the belt, on such a bad card is just it's bullshit it's bullshit and they don't give a fuck which drives me even crazier let's go to Mikey what's up Mikey for a second I was in the building that rivals any paper review I've ever been to

that was the best women's title fight next to Joanna and Wei Lee I scored it 4847 for Valentina I think she got rounds two four, and five. If you had it one, three, four, Alexa Grasso, I wouldn't be mad at you. Tenet was egregious.

I don't know how it was for you guys at home watching, but I rewatched most of the prelims and I'm just to the middle of the main card. How proud, how loud that crowd was, it doesn't do it justice, ironically enough. They were so loud. Like, Lupi Godinez's performances lit that place up in a way I hadn't heard. That wasn't the main card fight. And it was barely full. The energy was so great in that event.

He had to be there. You had to be in the building. That's one of the best nights ever. And a curious note, so I ran into Sal Diomato and Jaron Belal after the fight. And Jared Bellel told me something very interesting, or not interesting, depending on how you feel. They want to talk to the media. They want to explain their decisions.

He told me and admitted to me that he screwed, up, Valerie Leterno versus Joanna back at UFC 193. He knew he knew he should have stopped the fight, but he messed up. So and Sal DiMato, we talked briefly about his score, but I was mostly joking about

how I don't like his scores. But he's like, then he gave me shit because you know, he was the one that scored it for Valenzina. So I thought that was interesting. But anyways, I think Chira Lacerda should be run back if they can. Curious, who you think Daniel Huber,

Zizel Hoover should get next. Raul Roses, you know, basically all the Mexicans that won, where do you feel they should move up? Should they get a ranked opponent? Should they get one more, quote-unquote, you know, prospect development fight? Or should they be throwing into the deep end? And how soon do you think Tracy Cortez should be fighting,

not fighting for the title or be in contendership? So, all right. Be kind of one another. Thanks, guys. Thanks, man. Yeah, I mean, there should be an option where, because I know this is a whole thing before, and Ariel had talked to like Andy Foster and stuff.

And Andy Foster, like when there's events in California, they have sort of a little meeting at the end with all the reps and the judges, and they kind of go through everything and evaluate the job that was done. And for me, hearing that Andy Foster is like, yeah, if the media wants to do it, like they want to be a part of it, they can.

Vegas should do the same, man. Like, they should do the same. And it kind of drives me insane that they don't do that. So it's good to hear that refs and officials want to talk about these kinds of things because I have no issue with that, but it just, it just drives me nuts, man. There's just no case for that scorecard. Unless, again, like I said earlier,

if you scored round two at 108 and round three a 108 and then you scored round 5 at 108, like, okay, I'll listen to you, but you can't not score two and three. You can't score two and three, 10, 9s, and then 5, 10, 8. That makes no friggin sense. Makes no sense. Watching on TV, the crowd was awesome.

you could hear it and you hear it with like pro wrestling events like the crowd can make an event or it can break it event uh and i thought the crowd was on fire about the crowd was on fire translated very well they were into everything and i loved it absolutely loved it what's next for some of the mexican fighters who got wins uh if you listen on to the next one i suggested nazareth hackperass for daniel zell huber not ready to give him a ranks guy just yet, but I think he's a decent step up. He's coming off a win and a hard-fought fight with Len Quignonez. And Nazareth's been around a hot minute,

another vet. Krishos Gagos, that was his 13th UFC fight. So throwing him in there with Nazrat is not like a bridge too far, I don't think. And I think it's a fight. Daniel can win. So I like that idea. Raul Roses Jr., I am not rushing him at all.

I forget who I I forget who I picked for for Roses um actually I remember Johnny Munoz is fighting October 7th against who is he fighting

uh reach Grichy Lang I like that one that's fine that's not like a crazy step up those are probably like two top 50 bannam weights in that range 48 to 50 range.

I think I have both those guys, 48 to 52. So, yeah, I think that's fine. And then Tracy Cortez, who did I pick for Tracy? I picked Cranei Silva for Tracy Cortez. I think it's a good fight. My first pick was Lauren Murphy. It just depends on how quickly they want to get her up there. I think Tracy is getting over big.

I think she could be a star for this company. the problem is she's just not active enough. She's fighting once a year, and that's just not enough. That's just not enough. She needs to get in there and fight two, three times a year to really get over and climb those ranks. This division is a, it's full of killers right now.

And I understand that she went through a lot heading into this fight. I understand that she dealt with a litany of injuries, but she's got to find a way to stay healthy. otherwise it's going to be a very, very, very, very slow burn getting to the belt. It's got to take forever. I mean, just look at this, look at this division. Look at this division. Let me pull up my rankings right now.

We have Grasso, Chivchenko, we have Aaron Blanchfield, Manon Fioro, Tyler Santos, Jessica Androj, Lodge, well, Liz Comrooshes is in my, these are NBA fighting rankings. Kailen Chukagin, Lauren Murphy, Jennifer Maya, Macy Barbara, Natty Ice. Natty Ice has gotten over big because she's active and she's getting good wins. Amanda Hebas, Viviani Arrujo, Casey O'Neill, Jazz and Jasmine. Like, we have all these fighters coming up right now. Creeney Silva's another one.

You can't fight once a year in this division. You just can. So I like what she said at the end of the fight. I'm going for the belt next year. She went out with Ariel and Ariel asked what she wants to fight again. She said at the beginning of next year,

kind of would like to see her get one more in if she can. I know that was a hard-fought fight, but if she can get one more in in December, I would like to see that. She needs to get active. She needs to fight at a much more frequent pace than she's fighting right now.

Or else she's not going to fight for the belt. But Lauren Murphy's a good choice. I picked Karine A. Silva. They're both on the way up. And if Chase Cortez could beat Kriene Silva, man, it's a great win. That's got to tell me a lot about her.

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Conditions apply. CV, go ahead. Hey, Mike, heck of a morning. I want to talk about the Komen event and specifically, again, about Kevin Holland. I know I came in here last Friday. I told you that I have a 65% chance or feeling that he'll become the Volta R champion one day.

After the loss, I think I'm going to drop the projection to 64% now this time. But in all seriousness, yeah, watching Kevin Holland's super frustrating because I know like he was in

that fight I just didn't know why he didn't try to wrestle Jack more but yeah I think

Kevin Hong's like the most frustrating fighter to watch just because you know he has the potential

to be great but yeah his execution leaves a lot to be desired and one more thing

I noticed in like in your last couple shows that you mentioned that I don't know if it was just like a slip or not but like is the UFC really coming back in Toronto this January just to confirm and if you heard anything about it

that's all for me thanks so I started I mean we've been talking about this for I don't know over a month now Toronto is definitely in play but it's it's a matter of time you know because hockey is going to be underway um

there's the maple leaves and stuff so there are like some open dates but i just don't know if it's going to line up with like what the ufc has in mind unless they want to run multiple events like multiple pay-per-views in january or something so that is in play that is a plan if the ufc had their druthers they would like to go to toronto but again it's just a matter of can they get a building will the timing work, et cetera, et cetera. And as we know,

plans change very, very quickly for the UFC. Now there's talks about maybe going to China in December. That wasn't in play before. There was talks about Atlantic City. There were talks about Minneapolis. There's been talks about multiple different cities. Now I'm hearing Orlando might be a possibility again. They might go back to Orlando.

It's just, it's unknown in trying to report locations is like harder than ever. And it's been that way for a little while. Because I remember before the Dominic Cruz Cheeto Vera fight, that was going to be in Boston. Like that was going to be the return to Boston. And then Ariel started talking about it and all of a sudden it moved to San Diego

and I don't know if that one thing, one hand washes the other in that aspect. But I don't know. Toronto is definitely the front runner. That's where the UFC wants to go in January. They want to do another Canadian card. I know there's certain fighters who have been approached about that. But again, it's all about whether or not timing is going to line up.

And then with the Kevin Holland thing, look, this is why this is who Kevin is, man. Kevin is just wants to go in there and have a good time and fight and make money. He doesn't care about the belt. He doesn't care about rankings. He just cares about any of that. He just wants fun fights and wants to have fun. What do you do right after?

Said real quick, sorry, man. Let it slip away. Made no excuses. Just said, yeah. I fucked it up. And then he called out Neil Maggi for a hair versus hair match, which is just the best. Super Kevin Hollandey.

Love it. Absolutely love it. But, yeah. Yeah, 64% is also too high, by the way. There's a reason Kevin Holland was banned from on to the next one for like a year. Because the dude could just fight in two weeks. Like, you can just come back and fight in two weeks. there's a decent welterweight fight on the books for anywhere

where the taxes are not bullshit Kevin's been like okay or even a middleweight fight he'll just be like all right I'll fight him that's where he's at right now he wants to fight all the time he wants to be active and he wants to make a bunch money doesn't care about the belt but I get if you're a Kevin Holland better

if you're a Kevin Holland fan and you want to see him win the belt I understand why he's frustrating but this is who he is this is who he is slip and roll go ahead Hey Mike, how's it going, man? Got it.

So we talked about this already, but what did you think about how Shelfshanka handled herself after the draw decision? Like, especially her talking about the Independence Day for Mexico and all that stuff, you know, which could be controversial. But I do think that she obviously won the fight. Also, like, I want to know what do you think her wanting to fight in Kyrgyzstan in her? her own country. Is it even possible to do that at the stage of the UFC? She wants to do that for the rematch. I don't know if you heard that. Also, one last thing, you don't have to answer this question because it's been more than a week. I just wanted to know your opinion on the subject. So what do you think about Izzy being silent since the loss? You think he's just

conceding the idea that he doesn't deserve the rematch? He understands the situation. He kind of wants the division to move on for a bit, and he gets to rest a little bit. Thank you. So lots of talk about there. With Chifchenko on Saturday, I didn't love it, but I also understand that this is a woman who should be the flyway champion right now, and she got screwed. She got screwed by a judge that cost her the title. She's pissed.

So I get it from that aspect. Like you put everything into this, you thought you won, and then to have it score to draw because of one of the worst individual scorecards in the history of the sport comes about, you're going to be pissed off and you're going to say some shit. You're going to get emotional. She kind of carried that over into Monday.

And look, could you make a case that, you know, maybe Mike Bell is like, maybe I scored the fourth round wrong and this is a makeup call? I mean, maybe. But again, we don't know because he's not saying anything. Vegas ain't putting anything out.

There's going to be no statement about it. From what I understand, they're going to have some sort of meeting on Wednesday about what a 10-8 round actually is. I saw Ariel report that. I was told something similar. So we'll see what happens there. At least they're trying something.

But it didn't make Valentina look great, but I also understand that she just got fucked. she just got screwed and she should be the champion right now no matter how you scored it I scored for Valentina it's not obvious but the fact of the matter is without that 108 round

if you just scored it 109 valentina is the flyway champion right now so it's not like a robbery per se because it's pretty split a lot of people thought Alexa Grasso one but kind of is a robbery she kind of got screwed she did get screwed 1,000% she got screwed

and I thought that was cold as ice when she was like, listen, Mike Bell is going to have to live with that scorecard for the rest of his life. And I was like, ooh, that is just ice cold, man. Just ice cold. The Izzy thing, Izzy's got a documentary that's going to be released worldwide, I believe, or it's going to get a big release next week, I believe. So I think he's probably focusing on that right now, getting his story out there so people can get a different side of him. And, And perhaps that's when he'll break his silence. But it is interesting.

It is interesting. I am curious to hear what he has to say, but I'm sure he's going to do that on his own. I don't think he's going to go on the M.MA out or anything unless he just happens to be in New York and wants to do it. I know Izzy's not a, is he's not like a Zoom chat kind of a guy, unless it's fight week and he has to.

Izzy will do interviews, but he likes to do him face-to-face. So, but I kind of have a feeling like he's going to drop something on his own channel if there's going to, if there is even going to be a reaction to it. So I don't know. It is kind of telling. But take a break, man. I respect the fact that he's not saying anything. I kind of wish he stays this way. Like, I know he's going to say things with the doc and everything, but I kind of wish he just stays away for the next six months.

Like, let people miss him a little bit. Four quarter sports, go ahead. Hey, Mike. Really enjoyed your, Notcher, UFC. I hope that they can continue doing something like that. Continuously. I feel that, you know, it was an excellent card. I actually scored it three rounds to two, Alexei Grasso.

I had a, what's the quote, round two, round four. I know round four was the 50-50 type of a round, and round five. I'm okay to listen to other people say that it was 10-8 round, round five, although I don't heavily agree. But what do you think is the likelihood that they just read, they do the trilogy in Mexico City next year, just because they put that graphic out there that the U.S. is going back to Mexico, well, targeting at least. And then for Tracy Cortez, I mean, if she wants to get back to a title, she's going to have to fight at least. three times next year. How many fights do you predict that she actually not gets booked, but actually

steps into the octagon next year? All right, thanks, Mike. Thanks, man. I completely disagree with you that you're willing that anyone, like there's an argument, at least the discussion to be had for a 10-8th round. There is no discussion. That is not a 10-8 round.

Valentina won more than half that round. And then she made a mistake, got put in a tough, position. That's not a 10-8. That's not a 10-8. Fight was not really close to being stopped. And trust me, as a man who makes awful predictions most of the time, on the preview show, I said, look, Valentin is going to make a mistake in round five, and Alexa Grass is going to tap her at the end. So I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to look like Mystic Mike. Again, I've had a good run of just predicting weird shit to happen, and I almost had it again. It would have

and unbelievable. But that's not a 10-8 round. It's, there's, no. No. Two and three, you have a better case for a 10-8 rounds than round five. But it's a whole model. It's just the whole scoring model

makes no sense. It makes no sense. It's a boxing model. And if you watch boxing, it's easy to score. If it's a knockdown, it's automatically a point. It's 10-9.

And if you knock somebody down, it's automatically 10-8. You can't do it. It's not the same in M.A. The rounds are longer. There's so much going on. Now, I kind of like, now Tyson Chartier has been, he's the head coach and manager of a lot of the New England cartel guys, cater and fawn or whatever.

And he's been pushing this like scoring system that he's had in mind ever since Calvin Cater kind of got screwed in the Josh Emmett fight with a judge actually scoring round four for Josh Emmett, which absolutely no sense. His system is, if you haven't seen this, I'll read right now, each round winner determined by judge's majority, meaning at least two of the three judges scored the round for you. Majority winner of round gets one point.

Loser gets zero or less, minus one for a traditional 10-8 round, et cetera. Open scoring, I don't think you need open scoring. talked about this a lot if you want to do it cool but who gives a shit i don't think it changes much stall calls available with possible point deductions to deter fighters up on scorecards from coasting at the end no must system a truly close round can be determined a zero zero round winner is determined by whichever fighter gets more total points i don't mind that like that's different that's more of like an mma style of scoring it's not a must system it's not a boxing model

And if you do something like that, will there be a bad decision from time to time? Sure. Will we, especially if it's open? Are we going to complain more? Probably. But still, we don't have to worry about the egregiousness of just awful scorecards. As much anyways. But the scoring needs to change.

We talked about this forever. It's never going to. And that's it. It's fucking stupid. Cortez, I think she can get there pretty quick, but again, she's got to fight more than once a year. If she can get one more before the end of the year and then come back in like April or May and get another win,

she's right there, man. They're going to push her to the moon. They're going to push her to the moon. They know they have something with her, but you can't really push somebody who doesn't fight. And I understand she's gone through a lot and personal life, physically, mentally, emotionally, I get it. Like this last layoff, like, I'm not taking anything away from her.

But you got to fight more than once a year. Like, no matter what is happening, no matter what is happening, you have to find a way to get in there more. That's how you move up the ranks. But if she can get in there and be more active fight every four or five months and keep winning, she's going to get there pretty quick. someone asked earlier about doing the trilogy and well we had Mexico City

and then Valentina's like no man like let's do it in my hometown the likelihood of that unless that government agency is willing to spend millions of dollars to bring the UFC out there there's zero chance that happens zippity do da

zero even though even if they like Valentina there is no chance they go unless it is being funded unless they're being paid to go there. And that's it. Could it happen to Mexico City, maybe. But if I'm Valentina, I'm like, no, I'm not going to Mexico City. I know Vegas is in Mexico, but I don't know.

We'll see what happens. We'll keep on going. Cole, go ahead. Good morning, Mike. Yeah, just on that Tracy Cortez, I think her accent needs to be studied on a McKenzie Dern level. I don't know how somehow she's getting more Mexican, but, uh, yeah, there's a case of my ass that that's a 10-A.

I mean, that's crazy. But if you, I have a question for you, you could have any interview today with any fighter. Who would it be? And I think I have a guess of, like, who you would pick. I know you like to interview Colby. I think you'd like to interview about, like, why just, like, around this fight, why this fights taken so long. But yeah, who would you like to interview if you had one interview scheduled today with

anybody? I mean, Colby's obviously a good one because maybe we'd get an update on everything. It's a good question. I mean, I'd love to talk to Alexa Grasso right now, find out how she's feeling about everything from Saturday night where her head is at. We heard from Valentina. We have not. Mike Bell would be a great interview to have right now.

Jeff Mullen would be a good one. But if we're talking fighters, I mean, Connam McGregor would be an interesting one, obviously. Not just for numbers, but I would love to see where he's at. Izzy would be a good one. I think Izzy is probably the correct answer. And then if I just want to boost my mood, it'd be Brandon Moreno. Because I'm a big fan of interviewing Brandon Murray.

I haven't interviewed him in so long, which, like, hurts my soul. but what can you do but yeah Izzy's probably the answer right now because I'd love to hear the hows and the wise after the Strickland fight Strickland be another one I haven't heard from him at all

outside of him breaking the belt and somehow getting his hands on a flame thrower dude is such a character Riley go ahead two quick things one I know we're only in September but who would your women's fighter of the year be

right now. For me I scored this fight, 48, 47 Grasso, so I'd probably have Grasso as my female fighter of the year, given that she beat Valentina when she was number one pound for pound and just fought her to a drop. And then

secondly, real quick, what do you think is next for Roman Copilov? He started off 0 and 2 in the UFC, now he's won four straight, all by knockout. So what do you think next for him? Like a Cusp top 25 guy or maybe even top 15. What do you think?

Thanks. Thanks, man. I mean, Gras is probably the fighter of the year. But if they go back, if they go to, if the UFC does go to China and they do Zhang Wei Li versus Jan Jan Janan, and she just absolutely runs Janjan, I'm probably going to vote Zhang Wei. I mean, she put the wood to Amanda Lemos. I mean, that was, she didn't finish her, but she basically tortured her for five rounds.

Just beat that ass all over the place. It was about as dominant of a performance as you will see in a title fight. So I think Grasso is the frontrunner right now. I think Aaron Blanchfield is in play. I think Tatiana Suarez is in play. Yeah. I think it's between Grasso and Zhang. Grasso's got it now, but I think if Jean,

gets another fight before the end of the year and wins. It's probably her. At least in my eyes. For Copilov, who did I pick for Coppulov? For Unson, next one, I just said he should just go. You know what? If I'm Roman Coppulaf right now, I am going all in on the Roman deletes a fight.

That's what I'm going for. Hey, you need somebody to fill in for Derek Brunson, who's no longer in the UFC at MSG, hashtag Roman versus Roman, do it. That's what I would go for if I were Sam. I would push for that fight. I would push for that fight. I don't know if he gets it,

but you don't get what you want if you don't ask for it. So I would go that route. If not, I'd go, I mean, like a Chris Curtis fight would be interesting. Gregory Rodriguez would be interesting. I mean, there's options for him. It'd be someone fun that would stand there and strike with him. But if I'm here, I'm going, I'm going all in on Roman Delitz area right now.

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Good. Thanks, man. What's up? I'm just wondering, what do you think is next after that absolutely incredible performance by Raoulosa Jr.? Do you think he gets a fight with someone in the top 15,

think or like why you fought on up? Absolutely no to top 15. Look, Raul Roosier Jr. did what he needed to do. He's 18 years old, so I always take that into account. But he fought Christian Rodriguez and lost. And Christian Rodriguez is what? Let me see where I have Christian Rodriguez in my personal rankings. I have him at 46.

So he fought a top 50 guy and lost. So no. He's so far away from top 15. It's not even funny. There is no need to rush this kid at all. He just beat stylistically. And I don't want to sound like a jerk, but we knew what was going to happen when he fought Terrence Mitchell.

Nobody on the planet picked Terrence Mitchell to win that fight. And very few people on the planet picked Terrence Mitchell to get out of the first seven minutes of that fight. But Terrence is the perfect guy. He's like the perfect guy to get you back on track at Bandomway. You just throw him in there with Terrence. Terrence is going to try to get after you. And he's going to get got.

And most of the time he's going to get got. Me and Jed talk about this all the time. There's value to a fighter who gets got in spectacular fashion. And Terrence Mitchell is one of those guys. He's a great opponent in those types of situations. but to go from Terrence Mitchell to a top 15 is just way too fast, way too fast. So I wouldn't go any higher than another like top 50 guy. Honestly, on to the next one, I picked Johnny Munoz is fighting a Ritchie Lang, October 7th.

Winner or loser of that? One of those two guys. That's fine. I wouldn't go any higher. Let this kid cook a little bit. He's only 18. Let's just get him experience. Let's get him some wins.

Build his confidence. Give him those. I mean, he looked great. He did what you're supposed to do. But, yeah, top 15 is way too fast. We're so far away from that. We're probably like two or three years away from that. Good, how's good, man?

I'm doing good. So I'll just have a few things to ask. I'll start off with this one. I saw a post a few weeks ago on Twitter, Instagram. there's a rumor that the UFC is looking to host a card in Indonesia. Can you confirm or deny that those rumours are possibly true? And the other two things I just want to ask. I'll start off with the upcoming fight with Bryce Mitchell and Dan Ige on Saturday.

What is their stake for both of these fighters like? Let's say the trajectory of the career, if Dan Ige was to win, does he put himself back at a light change? of becoming a tender at the featherweight division again? Or will he just be at best a gatekeeper? And for Boris Mitchell, if he, I don't think he'll lose this fight, but let's say if he was to lose this fight, would this be very concerning in the fact that he might not be

who he seems to be as a fight in the sense that his potential to be a champion might not be so imminent and he was just, I guess, overhyped. and the last thing I want to just briefly discuss on was basically what we've all been talking about, the Grasso and Valentina fight. I think what a lot of people don't realize this, I don't think the 10-8, the way that the fifth round was scored for 10-8,

that was definitely stupid. But in my opinion, I will still say that that round goes to Grasso. Just off the fact the last two minutes, she did the most important stuff in that round, did the most damage, she put Valentina almost two or three times in the submission show, and one of them being the same way that she submitted Valentin the first time.

So, in my opinion, I think Grasso won that fight because overall I was looking when it really mattered most. She did the most damage and also, you know, had no problem hesitated at challenging Valentina on the ground. You know, I will give Valentina props. I think she did very well on the stand-up, and she definitely was good at the counter-jab punch. But, you know, I guess everyone has different opinions. And hopefully they rerun this match sometime next year, Mexico City, or whatever.

Yeah, that's all I have. Have a great day, man. Yeah, I mean, look, there's no 10-8 to be had. There's no argument on earth for a 10-8 in the 5th with the way that fight was scored. As I said earlier, the only way I will even entertain that is if that fight, round 2 was scored a 10-8 for grass. so and round three, you scored a 108 for Valentina. If you're consistent and you go 108, 109, 108, I'll listen to you. But other than that, there's just no way.

There's just no way. And look, I'm going to say something that might be a little, little cray cray, but I don't give a shit. You can make more of, and me, this isn't so cray cray, but you can make a much better case for Valentino winning round five. than you can for Grasso winning 10-8. Like, if you go re-watch that fifth round. Go re-watch that fifth round.

I would not score it 10-9 for Valentina. But you can make a case. You can make much more of a case for Valentina winning round five than you can for a 10-8 for Grasso. I mean, it's just, it's just insane. It's just insane. And if you scored it for Grosso, that's fine. If you gave round four, like, round five is not, like, obviously is the talking point of this fight.

But most people feel Grasso won round five. It's round four. It all comes down to round four. And it goes either way. It's all round four. Round four decided that whole fight, except for Mike Bell, who screwed up everything. But like, here's the thing. If Mike Bell had scored round four 10-10,

I don't think he'd be getting as much of the beating, would you? Like that round was so close. It was so close. We don't see 10-10 rounds. But go back and what's that fourth round. You want to make a case for a 10-10? There's a case there. You can make a case for a 10-10 in round four.

And I don't think the reaction would be what it is today. I think people would be like, wow, that's a ballsy scorecard. But I don't think anybody would be like, oh, that's bullshit Valentina got screwed. I think they'd be like, wow, like, good for Mike. Good for Mike for putting out a 10-10. I think there should be more 10-10s. And the big reason why is like, round one going the way that it did. And then watching Grasso drop Valentina in round two and treated her like Heath Herring,

and Grasso was Brock Leznor, knocked her. the freaking cage. I just don't think you can score, like, both those rounds are 10-9s. Like, how could you compare those two? You know what I mean? So that's why I think there should be more 10-10s. But what do I know? It's just bad.

Like, it's just so bad. And we'll never, ever, we'll never hear otherwise. We'll never hear about the car. We'll never hear from Vegas. There'll be no statement. that's fucking ridiculous, man. It is ridiculous. Octavone blog, go ahead.

What are doing? First of all, I put $1,000 on Sean Strickland. Maybe you remember this. 65% Secondly, Mike Bell, I think he belongs to,

you know, I don't want to say a political system in the UFC, now top TKO etc but I think he was I think Valentina Sevchenko is right he was under enormous pressure all referees I think

it was a totally misjudgment I want to hear your take about all three referees not only Mike Bell thank you and I predict before I close down the fight the third fight will be in Paris and the co-main event will be Manon-Fioro versus the girl from

New Jersey Aaron Blanchfield. Good luck. Maybe. I don't know if they're going to wait. I mean, I guess it could. Like if Grasso fights again,

nah, I mean, that'd be tough. That'd be tough. Because if they go to Paris, they usually go in September. But I don't know. Maybe. Maybe they'll go a different time. I kind of feel like Grasso is going to fight either Blanchfield or Fioro first

and then Valentino will get the winner. I kind of think Manon Fioro lost the most out of anybody here, because I think Blancheville will get the rub before her. But I don't know. It all depends on kind of like when Valentine's ready to go. Let's look at the other cards. Mike Bell's is just ridiculous. Sal DiMato scored it 4847 for Valentina,

gave her rounds 1-3-4, the same way I did. and Camijo gave Grasso 2-4-5, which I have no issue with. I have no issue with 48-47 either way. None. But 10-8 and the 5th is just horrendous. It's horrendous. Banda.

First time? Nope. Stunner. Latino heat. Oh. Wait, is my mic on? yes sir i'll just make sure good morning first thing foremost and well this ain't well the first thing it ain't a question it's just what i think i think alexa roso should fight someone else for her next fight

so the division doesn't stay in the stand still and then after whoever wins that fight gets shoshchenko but my question is who do who what fight do you find more entertaining KSI versus Tommy Fury or Logan Paul versus Dylan Dennis and who you think is going to win? Honestly, we're going to cover it. We'll cover it obviously because people will be somewhat interested in it, but I don't give a fuck. I don't care. I don't care. I am so over Dylan Dennis.

It's not even funny. I was over him before all this, but now like, if Dylan Dennis is just like never part of the combat sports community ever again, it'll be. too soon. I'm just over it, man. Like, I'm just over it. I have, Dylan Dennis took the vaite, like the,

the slight interest I had in this Logan Paul fight. And within three days, I was like, all right, I don't even give a shit. I don't care. I don't care. So I guess by default,

it's KSI Tommy Fury. But I think Tommy's just going to beat KSI. Like, he's just going to beat KSI. Just KSI is not a boxer. KSI is not a boxer. Tommy Fury is not a great boxer, but he is a boxer. He's going to piece up KSI.

He's going to beat him. He's going to go in there and win a decision in a fight that doesn't matter or doesn't count. It's good for Tommy. He's going to get some money, but other than that, like, it's not even a pro fight. I'm with most of you. Like a lot of, like, I'll look at, because I do allow with the pod network and, like, want to make sure that's where it needs to be and stuff. So, like, I listen to, like, I see what the. comments are and stuff like that.

And most people are like, hey, we love you guys, but stop talking about this influencer boxing shit. And I'll be honest with you. I'm with all of you on that. Like,

if I could avoid talking about it, I would, but you just can't. You just can't. Because by the time these fights come, like everybody talks about them. And people want to know what happens. Now,

are they going to spend the money to watch them? No, but they're going to go to M.A. fighting and find out what's happening. They're going to go read the library. blogs and stuff like that. Like, I don't think you understand how popular those things are. Like, they do such huge numbers.

Like, you can't ignore it. You can't. But that's the world we're in now. I thought Kingpin was going to be like a thing. But apparently that's not going to be a thing anymore because they can't make any money. But, yeah, I mean, I don't know how much longer KSI is going to do this. I don't know how much longer Jake Paul is going to do this. but just when we think like,

this is this Jake Paul thing over? Goes and fights Nate. And I was there, man. People were into that. That whole building was like on fire the whole time. They were on fire. When Nate came out, the place came unglued. Anytime Nate landed anything close to a punch,

the place went bananas. People care, man. They care. But yeah, it's tough. And look, as far as Valentina not getting the next shot, there's an injury there, so you might get what you want. But if like Alexa, if the UFC goes to Alexa Grasso team and says, hey, want you to fight in March, want you to defend your title again in March,

the next call is going to be to Valentina Shepchenko. It's going to be. You have to give her the shot. No matter how you feel about immediate rematches. Like, is he getting an immediate rematch? No, it makes no sense. Because Robert Whitaker said it best. If we're giving Izzy the immediate rematch, just give him the belt.

Because if he's just going to get a rematch every time he loses, like, then this is stupid. He got worked by Sean Strickland. It was a one-sided fight. It was not competitive. No immediate rematch. Sterling has a much better case for an immediate rematch against Sean O'Malley. but he has no he has absolutely no power in this situation Sean is the A plus side in this conversation

Aljo's the B side what Sean wants Sean's going to get and as much as Aljo deserves an immediate rematch he's not going to get it he's not going to get it he got deaded by Sean O'Malley he got knocked out in two rounds So even the case for Aljo, although it's better than Izzy, he's probably not going to get it.

But Valenzhen of Chenko 1,000% deserves to run this one back. She should be the champion right now. She should be the champion. Today, on this Tuesday, we should be talking about Valenzhenish of Chanko as the flyweight champion again. Because one judge screwed her with the all-time worst scorecard ever. you have to give her the shot you have to give it back to her and if that thumb injury is bad is

really bad and if they say alexa we're fighting in march and they call valentina she says no march is too soon i'm not going to be ready then yes go alexa versus erin blanchfield go alexa versus man in fioro whoever's ready and then valentina gets the winner but if valentina is ready to go whenever that the ufc wants that title defended again she is the first phone call, and she has to be. This is one of the rare cases where you have to go back to Valentina. Because she should be the champion. This is a different situation.

It's like Izzy got robbed and it was a close decision. No, Sean beat his ass. He took round two off because he almost finished Izzy in the first. So no, Izzy doesn't deserve an immediate rematch. Even John Annick, even John Anick said Izzy doesn't deserve an immediate rematch. Aljo deserves it much more, but you ain't going to get it. But Valentina, in this situation, she's got to be the first call. She's got to be the first call.

If she ain't ready, you don't wait for her. You fight somebody else. But if she's ready, she has to get that shot. She has to. And then Blanchefield and Fiore could fight. And I kind of want to see them fight anyways to see who the real deal is. Pandit. Mike, how are you? Can you hear me?

I'll be short and sweet. First things first, I'm definitely going to back you up. I don't want to watch his. He gets another eerie match. Just holding up the division. And at this point, you do have two or three, you know, top contenders, top guys that would be pretty interesting to see what a trick is two plus C or maybe a hums out of Chimayev or maybe even a Paulo Costa does in that division

if he does get a shot against Sean. So we'll see. You know what I mean? And then secondly, let's go with division down. Okay. Do we even have a, a, a, a, a, top 10, top 15 fight booked at middleweight? Like, what in the world is going on there, Mike?

I know I always ask you about Kobe. I know I always ask you about Leon, but how about just that division as a whole? What in the world? Is Bilal Muhammad Gilbert-Gibhber Burns the last top-10 fight in that division? Is that the last one we saw? Yes. Top-10 fight?

Yes, it's the last top-10 fight. It's the last top-time fight. which is, goes to show why I hated that fight being on UFC 288 to begin with. Made absolutely no sense to put that fight on that card. Zero sense. Made no sense. And from what I understand, there were, like, actual talks about doing a Sean Strickland-Pollo Costa fight on that card. But both guys wanted it at 205 and the UFC is like,

I mean, it didn't get really far, but from why I understand, like, that was brought to the table, and they were like, if you could do it at 185, cool. And they were both like, no, fuck that. And the UFC is like, okay, we'll go another direction. And now, like, that Muhammad Burns fight

has aged so poorly that, like, people forget about it. The timing of that fight was horrendous. Can you imagine if they just waited and we got it, like, October 6th? 7th, instead of, or October 14th, like instead of, you know, Grant Doss and Bobby Green being a main event, which I don't like dislike that main event, but I mean, we're just coming off of a fight night headline by a title fight. We got Fiziv and Gamrodot and then we're going to Grant Dawson, Bobby Green, then we're going to Sidique Yusuf Edson Barbosa, not your typical main events. Like, what a great spot to have those two guys fight, right? but we just we we wasted it because we had to have a co-made event because we lost charles olivera

and benny der a yush and we moved it to june and like that fight did nothing for the card it did nothing it didn't get a single extra pay-per-view by it did nothing it was just it was a five-round ballal mahomed performance he dominated and he looked great but now like all this time is passing and this isn't what have you done for me lately sport and now like if shock got like fights kelvin gasolm or something in november and just ices them like you think anyone's going to be saying oh member one valalby gilbert burns no no they're not going to say any of that stuff so yeah it's very weird i don't know what's going to happen um i still believe coles Colby Leon will happen before the end of the year,

either November or December. I think they're still finding a spot for it. I think both guys are probably getting ready for that for one of those dates. But we're getting close, man. We're getting close. We got to figure out what's going to headline in December. We get to figure out what's going to headline in January. But the clock's ticking on all that stuff.

So maybe we'll get Wonderboy versus Ian Gary. Maybe we'll get Wonderboy Kamara Usman, I don't know. I don't know. It's just a weird division. It's a very weird division. And until we get this title flight, like nothing really makes sense and we can't really do much with it, that's why I hated Balala and burns on that May card. Just was a waste. Such a waste.

But it was a big win for Balala. And by the time some of these other top 10 welterweights get shots, like, Like, everyone's going to forget about it. And it's crazy to think about. It's crazy to think about. I talked to Sean Brady a little bit last week. He wants to fight at MSG or before the end of the year. So there's like interesting matches there.

Maybe do JDM Brady. Luke A's in the mix for one of those guys. I mean, there's options, but man, we need to get some of these fights booked. Move this division along a little bit. All right, we're done. Thank you all very much. We'll be back on Thursday.

We'll do it all over again. And we'll have a good time. Thursday will be a busy day. We'll have BTL as well. And then Friday, we'll be back here again for free-for-all Friday. Get you ready for UFC Vegas 79. Actually, before I go, I'll talk about, someone asked about the stakes for Bryce Mitchell, Dan Ege.

I don't think they're like huge, but it's a good fight. It's very good fight. If Dan wins, I think you have to give him some, I think you have to give him a shot against, like a guy ranked higher than him, like a top 10 dude,

someone ranked above them. And you throw him in there with like an Arnold Allen or something. I know Arnold just had a close fight with Max, but maybe that's like an option. And if Bryce loses someone was like, this is the end of the hype dream. No. Like Bryce,

like I always thought Bryce was a pretty talented guy, but I just think that his, like his overall skill sets would win him a lot of fights, but against guys who are super well-rounded, he wasn't going to do great against. Like, I was very confident that I was very confident that Ilya would win that fight. And he did.

But we'll see, we'll see what happens. Like, Danny Gay is, you know, Daddy Dan is, on another level. I think either him and his wife had another kid or they're about to have another kid. So he's like more motivated than ever. He's coming off of a good win. I love that fight a lot.

I really like that fight. We're going to learn a lot. But if Danny Gay wins, I wouldn't call Bryce a bust because it's kind of where I thought Bryce would be. Like a top 15 kind of a guy. Probably not going to win a belt, but be a top 15 guy

and there's nothing wrong with that. You got Fiziv Gamrots, great fight, can't wait for that. Not a bad card. Not a bad card this Saturday, but we're at the apex, three straight events. But more on that on Thursday.

So thank you all very much. Have a great rest of your Tuesday and as always, have a heck of a morning, everybody.