MMA Fighting - HOAM | What's Next For Paddy Pimblett If He Beats King Green At UFC 304?

Episode Date: July 19, 2024

The UFC 304 lightweight bout between Paddy Pimblett and King Green might be the most intriguing fight on the entire pay-per-view slate with Pimblett taking another step up. On top of that, Pimblett says he's fighting out his contract which puts a lot at risk for him potentially. On an all-new Heck of a Morning, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck discusses that, Jake Paul vs. Mike Perry, the UFC Vegas 94 card, PFL continuing to fall way behind the UFC in terms of buzz, and more. You can listen live to Heck of a Morning Tuesdays and Fridays at 10 a.m. ET on the MMA Fighting Twitter Spaces. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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A little bit earlier today. Thank you for joining us live on the M.A. Fighting Twitter space. You can hear the show. Start to finish on the M.A. Fighting Podcasting Network as soon as you wrap up here, I am Mike Heck. I hope you're all having a wonderful Friday. Yes, we are early today. It is 847 a.m. on the East Coast because we got to do it.

We have the Jake Paul, Mike Perry, Weyons coming up. The official weigh-ins going down at 10 a.m. Eastern. And I'm going to be hopping on with the incredible E. Casey Leiden, who is in Tampa right now. He will be in the building. He will have the camera ready to go. and you get to see it all play out. And we'll talk as it's all happening. So that's going down.

I think we're going to go live around 9.50. So I didn't want to not do a show. So we just have to roll a little bit earlier. So of course, we're on the eve of that big fight in Tampa. Jake Paul versus Mike Perry. The press conference was yesterday. It was pretty fun. It was pretty fun.

I sort of agree with what New York Rick has been saying all week that to me this fight doesn't need any of that. I'm excited for it anyways. Nothing that happens at the press conference. Nothing that happens with these face-offs. Nothing that happens in the ceremonial way-ins will change the excitement levels for this fight for me. I'm in. I'm in. I don't say that that often with these Jake Paul fights, but I am in for this one. And that's going down tomorrow night. That's going to be the talk of the town as the folks like to say. Of course, UFC does have an event as well. UFC Vegas 94.

Yeah, it's going to happen. Yes, fights will take place. I've got to be honest with the world here. We will be, obviously, paying attention. We'll be covering it. We'll be updating results. We'll talk about big storylines, et cetera. But it's not, it's going to play second fiddle.

It's going to play second fiddle to what is happening with Jake Paul, Mike Perry. just the way that it is. It's just the way that it is. So, all right, let's get right into this. Let's do a little, uh, let's, let's see where you all have to say. Let's get into it. And we'll go for about 35 or 40 minutes today, I think. Uh, left lane, go ahead. What's on? Mike. Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Uh, um, I'm going to be straight up honest with you. And I don't think anyone's going to disagree. No one cares about this card. Um, really, I, I, I, normally will come on you and be like, what are your thoughts on this cool prelim fight? There's nothing really that I care about.

But next week is pretty cool. Obviously, Paul Ves Peri is cool, but I'm sure other people are going to give their takes on that. I'm just going to watch the fight. I don't really care. I like to fight, but I don't really care. But next week, apart from the main and the co-main event, which fight are you most looking forward to? And which fight, if it's the same one or if it's a different one, do you think has the most stakes on the card? also i know you're going to do the otno and stuff but which fighter do you think with a win

could be looking at like the highest or like the biggest fight next obviously like maybe patty maybe macaev do you think he could get a title shot with a win or cap if he makes weight or maybe ellen giga i don't think there's heaps at stake there but yeah which fight do you most looking forward to apart from the championship fights and then who do you think has like the most to gain i guess if that makes sense so thanks bye Thanks, man. Yeah. Look, there's a lot to like about 304.

I think the main card is fantastic. I don't have anything negative to say about it. It's an excellent main card. Top five fights are all spectacular. They're all great. And I'll get into that in a moment. Looking at this UFC card, look, you're right. Nobody cares.

Nobody's going to care. Will people watch it? Sure. But to be fair, There are some fun fights on this card, some fights that I am intrigued by. Main event, obviously, I mean, this is, if Verna Jandaroba wins tomorrow, this is a very real world where she gets title shot. So there is at least something on the line here.

I don't think Amanda Lamo, she's getting a title shot because she got dusted up by Zhang Wai Li something proper. But if Verna wins, it's hard to deny her. I know a lot of people in the MMA fighting community are exciting that the Iron Turtle is back. Steve Garcia is always fun. Kurt Hollabo and Canaan Khrushcheoski should be a lot of fun. Cody Dern and Bruno Silva is going to be a fun fight. We got Duho Choi back against Bill Algeo.

Neither are really in boring fights. I think the low-key banger tomorrow is Hyder Amil versus Jung-Yung Lee. A lot of hype around Jung-Young-Lee and Jung-Yung-Lee, excuse me. And Hyder Emile, I think, is super underrated. I think he's so incredibly fun to watch. Dude is an athlete. And let's be honest, looks good getting off the bus. Dude is a problem.

So that's a really interesting fight. Brian Kelleher fighting out his deal against Cody Gibson, Miranda Mavericks fighting. Like, yes, we do have Mohamed Usman versus Thomas Peterson, and we know what that's going to be. It's going to be the slog-iest slog that ever slogged. It's a guaranteed over two and a half hits, because that's just how these two dudes fight.

And, yeah, I don't think it's going to be a bad watch. It's just outside of the main event, there's like nothing to really dig your teeth into in terms of stakes of where fighters can go. As far as 304 goes, which fight am I most excited about outside of the main event in the co-main event? I think you could ask me this question straight up,

and I think I have, will give you the same answer. And this includes the two title fights. I was actually talking to John Anick about this yesterday. I believe that conversation will go live Monday or Tuesday, I think Tuesday maybe, to get you ready for 304. But Patty Pimbley versus King Green, man, I love this fight. I'm so intrigued by it because it's whoever can get their game plan to work is going to win. Like, if Patty can get this fight to the ground, he wins.

If Bobby Green keeps it standing, he wins. It's just one of those things. And this is probably the toughest fight of Patty's career. Actually, it's not probably it is. But I still don't know, like, what we'll learn about him in all of this. Because this is a win-win fight for the UFC. Either Patty gets over and looks like a star or Bobby Green. I'm sorry, King Green continues his as a sense.

He's getting more and more popular with each fight. He looked incredible against Jim Miller. He looked unbelievable at UFC 300. And if he can go in there and dust up Patty in Manchester, that's going to be massive. And he might get booed out of the building in Manchester, but he is going to be cheered all around the rest of the globe if he does this. And big things would be coming his way. So plus not to mention

Patty revealing that he's fighting out his contract Although Again, I've said this before I truly truly hope that Patty Pimbled does not Reside before this fight happens I kind of feel like he's going to

Because of You know his manager and his manager's relationship with the UFC and all that So I think His manager will likely sort of push him into resigning, but I hope he doesn't, man. I hope he kind of stands on his own two feet

with this one and just lets it fly, man. Like, I respect the hell out of that. And if he goes in there, last fight on his deal, and beats Bobby Green, that's huge, man. Like, that's huge.

The price of admission has gone up if he does that. So I love that fight. It's really interesting to me. It's a winnable fight for Patty. It's a winnable fight for Green. It's going to be good stuff. It's going to be good stuff. And as far as the high stakes, I would say, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a, that's a number one contender fight. That's a number one contender fight. Whoever wins that fight is getting a title shot, whether it's Michael for Medell Cop.

Either one is getting a title shot. So we shall see. But I'm, I can't wait for 304. I'm very Can you hear me? Yes, for on Seiper. Hey, heck of a morning. I wanted to continue the talks about Patty. I was going to ask you about the odds for his fight next weekend. I looked earlier this week, and he looked to be at like a plus 150 underdog, which I thought was crazy.

Just checked a minute ago, saw a lot of money that's come in on him. And if I had to make a prediction, I think he's going to be around like the minus 150 mark come fight night. And also, he spoke on his path to a title if he were to re-signette. with the UFC. I wanted to know if you saw that and what you thought on that. I think he mentioned something about beating Bobby. At one point, he needed to be Anato Moikano, Benio Darius, and then like a top five guy to get to the title. If you saw that, wanted to know where you thought if he were to take a loss, who it would be to or if you thought, you know, his prediction to get to the title was

realistic. Thanks, Mike. Yeah, I'm looking at him right now, Bobby Green minus 130, Patty Pimba plus 110. Obviously, we got the watch party next Saturday. Back to the ATL, we go. Very excited for that to reunite with Manchee C. And, you know, hopefully that's the last one in the ATL at the Jedmishu apex. But we'll see. We're going to flow with whatever we get to do here to make it the best product. And we've upgraded some equipment, so it should be a lot of fun. I will assure you that I will have a bet on that fight, it will likely be on whoever the underdog is. I wish I saw Patty a plus 150.

It probably would have taken a flyer on it, like right there and then. But yeah, whoever the dog is, I'm probably going to take because I do think this is like a 50-50 fight. So, yeah. If the fight was tomorrow,

I would place a bet on Patty Pimble right now, plus 110. I think it's that close. In terms of like his path to, a title shot. Like, I don't even know why we're having this conversation right now. He's just so far away from that. Like, I know he's popular in all that and he generates interest.

But, I mean, this, dude, this is lightweight. This is lightweight. This ain't Walterweight. This is lightweight. Walter weight's fun, too, but, I mean, let's look at the UFC rankings right now. Let's take a gander here. And I'm going to be fair about this. He's fighting King Green, so he'll be ranked number 15.

Would you pick Patty Pimble to be Hafieldo Sanjos? I don't know. Would you pick him to be Jalen Turner? Probably not. Ben-Wasantanee? Probably not. Dan Hooker?

Close. Close fight? I would pick Boycano. I would pick Max Holloway. I would pick Fizziv. Darius, I think he has a chance. But even then, like, I would be hesitant to pick Patty over Betty D.

Like, there's just so many tough fights for him. There's just so many tough fights for him. And I just want to see how he does against King Green. Because even if he wins this fight, it's going to be because he gets King to the ground and takes him down. I just don't know what we're going to learn here. Like, we learn nothing from the Tony fight.

He was a little more patient in that fight. So we did learn a little something, something there. But we haven't really learned a lot. It seems like his attitude's a little bit better heading into this fight. Seems like he's a little more loosey-goosey about things. We know him and Green are going to get after it all week. But, I mean, just like, this is the toughest division in MMA. This is like one of the toughest divisions in all the sports, the UFC lightweight division.

He's just got, there's just a lot of really bad fights for him. Guys who are just as good on the ground and are way better strikers. and that they have that sort of next level grit to them. I'm not saying Patty doesn't have grit to him because he does, but I don't know, man. I don't know. I'm actually surprised they didn't just give him Darius right away. After Darius got rolled by Armand Sauru Kyi,

and I was like, just give Darius Patty. Like, let's just do it. But, I mean, we'll see what he does. We'll see what he does. but like I said earlier, I truly, truly hope he does, he remains a free agent through this fight. Do not resign before. I think that's a terrible, terrible decision if he resigns before.

Because this is a very winnable fight for Patty. And going into quote-unquote free agency as a ranked lightweight is a very good place to be. And PFL is probably going to throw a whole bunch of money at him too that the UFC will have the opportunity to match so it's going to be a real interesting tale we'll see what happens old pat's go ahead so i don't rate patty that high um i don't dislike the guy i think he's a bit of a dick outside the cage sometimes but like he's okay at fighting but he's not really stellar anyway.

Like, everyone goes on about his great ground game. There's way better grapplers. Like, he just hasn't fought him. Yeah. Look, I think there's, I think there's a lot of, I think he's a little underrated. I also kind of think he is what I've thought he always thought he was, which is just a guy with the gift of gab who has some talent.

But he's in just the worst division he could possibly be in. He's just in the worst division. Like, do you really see a world where he beats Armin Seruquian or Charles Oliver or Justin Gauchy or even Dustin Porre? He ain't beat Matush Gamron. Chandler maybe? I don't even know if he beats Chandler. Like, there's just so many really tough matchups for him.

I think he's better that I've given him credit for because I'm trying to like go. back and watch old fights, seeing where the evolution is. But again, like the problem with Patty is that the one fight I thought we were going to learn something on, I thought he lost it. I thought he lost

to Jared Gordon. Like, I thought it was pretty clear. I don't think it was like an all-out robbery, but I thought he won. I thought Jared beat him. And boy, we'd be having a much different conversation if Jared did beat him. on the cards.

But he's going to have a hard time with a lot of these guys. But he is very popular. The UFC knows how to book these fighters very well when they're trying to get him where they want to go. But if he gets to a title fight, man, he's kind of like, man, I just don't see it being a very good knife for him. It's a lot of these guys. Like, I would have just given him Darius right now.

Sink or swim time. Because Patty can still be very popular and still make a damn good living being Patty Pimble. Even if he's not Patty Pimblit, lightweight title contender. Let's keep going here. Just simply Rob, go ahead. Hey, Mike, it's good to see you, my brother, man. I about the Patty thing, man. You know, I think the issue is that too many people are trying to be like Connor.

You know, like Patty, I mean, I couldn't even name anybody in Cage Warriors that he beat that anybody knows about. I think the issue is that he's a likable guy because he's from Europe. He has the accent. He has the cool haircut. So there's that gimmick to him. And I feel like kind of Sean O'Malley went to the same thing until he put out all Jermaine Sterling. But I really think, like you said, heck,

I think we're going to really see what Patty Pimlet's worth. Once he cracks into that top 10 and he starts fighting some of those high caliber guys. But I think that with Patty is just a schick, the way he talks, the way he looks. And even now with his hair braided, I feel like he loses some of that aura. I wonder what you think about it now that he's brating his hair.

Thanks, Mike. I mean, that doesn't affect anything for me. But who knows? Look, we've seen fighters who for a long time weren't likable. And then, you know, in Patty's case, he's now a dad, he's got kids. He seems really happy. Like, he just seems really happy. Doesn't seem like he's all that stressed out.

And take it from me, man. Like, when you become a dad, it changes. Everything. Everything about your mindset changes towards that. And maybe this is like what Patty needed. It's got to be real interesting to see what Fight Week's going to be like. What's Patty going to be like immediate day? What's the press conference going to be like?

You know, I was curious about the, I was curious about how he would handle Tony Ferguson. Do you put him over as an absolute legend or do you just go full heel? And I think he kind of skirted the line, but he's got something. I mean, he's definitely got something. I just don't, he's just in the wrong, like, I'm like I say he's in the wrong division. He's fighting in the right division. He's just in the wrong division if he wants to be a world champion. He's just, this division is just insane.

It's just insane. Matush Gamrod was the freaking backup fighter for Abu Dhabi last year. and he has to fight Matush Gamrod and now he's got to fight somebody else. Like it's wild. That he's going to fight Dan Hooker. Dan Hooker, who hasn't fought

in a hot minute, Dan Hooker gets to fight Matush Gamrod in Perth. I mean, it's probably the best name he can feasibly get right now in today's UFC. But

I mean, man, he gained, gains nothing from that fight. Dan Hooker gains everything from that fight. I don't know. The way they book Patty moving forward if he beats King Green, and I think he has a very good chance of winning this fight.

Do they do what they did with Molly? Which I, like, I know I was on an island with liking the Molly McCann, Aaron Blanchfield fight. I loved that idea. I thought that was absolutely perfect. Molly was beating the lowest ranked fighters in the division, Valentina had kind of cleaned out the division at the time

at that very moment when that fight was happening. Molly was just rising as a star. And if she's ever going to get a title shot, like now was the time to do it at 125. So chuck her in there with her in Blanchfield. Give her the test. And if she wins, you can just give her a title shot.

And you just give it to her. No one would have complained about it. They would have been like, all right, cool. I get it. and then we found out who Molly McCann was, I guess, to some extent, because Aaron Blanchfield just did what a lot of people thought she might do. Do we do the same with Patty? Do we just chuck them right in there with Justin Gachey next or somebody like that?

And just see what he can do. Do we throw him in there with BSD after he fights Boycano? I don't know. but we're getting close to sink or swim time with Patty when it comes to whether or not he could fight for a belt and maybe Molly will have new life at 115 maybe that's where she needs to be but like would you even as great as Molly McCann looked

in her last fight I don't think there's a single person on this planet who is like you know what she looks so good I think she could beat John Wei Lee. No. Amali's fighting Bruno Brazil next weekend, and it's a fight she should win. It's a fight she should win.

Let's go to Toke. Toke, do we have you? You do. So here, yeah, hello. Here I am walking around in the beautiful sunshine on my 33rd birthday. Let's go. Happy birthday.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. And, you know, the gods. smiled upon me with beautiful weather and it smiled upon me with the monumental UFC Vegas 94 tomorrow where the fight that I asked for almost four years ago is finally happening bill Aljo do do ho joy tell me why tell me if that's going to be fight of the night and if it's not that one tell me what which one it is because I

think it's that one I think it's the perfect matchup that's why I call for it that long ago and have a good day, Mike. I mean, I think we all unanimously agree that the fight of the night is the curtain jerker. Muhammad Usman versus Thomas Peterson. I mean, come on. We know we're getting a 15-minute war there. I kid.

By the way, over two and a half, down to minus 200. Just throwing that out there. I don't even know if we have an alt, an alt total round on that fight yet. We still don't. The fight's tomorrow. We don't have an alt total round on that fight. That's insane.

How is that possible? Maybe it's because it's so, it's like such easy money that the books are just like, no, we can't do this. This is definitely going over one and a half. Over one and a half in that fight is probably minus 750, which is crazy. What, like, look at all these over numbers. Over two and a half in. Holy crap, Ola. Let's run this down. Let's have some fun here. Luana Carolina,

Lucy Pudilova, over two and a half, minus 410. Rajabov, Trey Ogden, over two and a half, minus 238. Miranda Maverick, Deoni Barbosa, over two and a half, minus 345. Brian Keller, Cody Gibson, over one and a half, minus 195. Do we have any other... Cody Dern and Bruno Silva, minus 215, 2.15, over 2.5. Tavares, Jung Park,

over 2.5, minus 2.30, over 2.5, and the main event, minus 166. A lot of people expected a lot of decisions tomorrow. By the way,

for those wanting, Du Ho Choi, Bill Algio, over 2.5, minus 188. I think it's going to be fun. I think it's going to be a fun fight. Do I think it's the fight of the night?

No. I don't. I'm going with Jung Jung Lee versus Heider Emile. It's a fight of the night. That's going to be a good one. Again, I don't think, like this card, no one's watching tomorrow. It's just all the eyes are going to be on Jake Paul, Mike Perry. Even if you want to sit there and be like, oh, don't know talking about Jake Paul, blah, blah, blah.

You're going to be paying attention to what happens in that fight. Mostly because of Mike Perry, I get it. And this card's going to go on and. we'll cover it and do results and all that stuff and discuss it. But it's a poo-poo card. Like outside of the main event, there is literally nothing on the line here. Nothing. And Verda Janjeroba is the one with like everything to gain here.

She probably gets a title shot if she wins this fight. But other than that, it's just like, golly. Miranda Mavericks probably like the highest ranked. fighter on the card outside of the main event. Yeah, it's just not great. And like before the UFC was just printing money, these fight night cards were great promotional tools for them because they would just put a good fight night lineup on

with a really good main event, a really good co-main event. They knew people would watch and then they would just use these cards to promote the pay-per-view that they want people to spend $80 on. You ain't getting that here. I mean, it's just not happening. It's just not happening. I'm curious how 304 actually will do on pay-per-view. I don't think it does great.

Even though, like, the hardcore fans like this card, and I like, I think it's a tremendous main card. It's, to me, this is worth 80 bucks. This is an $80 main card if there ever was one. But it has zero casual appeal. Zero. Leon Edwards Blah Muhammad. That's a hardcore fans fight.

England will be tuning in, and that's it. Tom Aspinall, Curtis Blade, same thing. Patty, Bobby Green, or King Green, excuse me. Wehaheuf, Medell Cop, love that fight. Arnold Allen, Giga, Chikazze, great fight. That's just, it's going to do fine. It's going to do like 350,000 pay-per-view buys.

if that there's just no star power on it it's okay I'm very much looking forward to it what else we have on that card Prachio and Modestus Poccuscus that should be a fight that happens Colin Lockren

Romone Tavares Obon Elliott's back okay against Preston Parsons good old Mickey Parkins back against Lucas Brechke Molly McCann massive favorite of Bernard of Brazil and Nathanie Wood

massive favorite over Daniel Paneda. Totally. Diffanyl Woods a minus 485 against Daniel Paneda? Ooh, I might have to take a stab at Mr. Paneda at plus 370. I mean, Wood should win, but Panada is just

an absolute savage. Sam Patterson, Kiefer Crosby, Sam Patterson, minus 360. God, I might even take that. I think Patterson should be a much bigger favor than minus 360 in that fight. but I got to tell you I think a lot of you are with me

Christian Leroy Duncan versus Gregory Rodriguez at 304 on the prelims that's a damn good fight Robocop the underdog holy smokes I'm going to have to take some early stabs here

see I'm talking myself more and more into this card and I was already really excited for it let's go I'll take a couple more Joey go ahead Joey Joey, Joey.

All right, bounce out, bounce back in. We'll try that. Bree, do we have you? Yeah, what's good? What's up? That's it? I don't know what you're talking about. I just joined.

Why did you bring your hand to speak? Yeah, Joey, it can't hear anything you're saying. It's not coming through. So try, if you bounce back out and bounce back in, it might work. Let's see if, yeah, yeah, I could get through. Yeah, yeah, do we have you? Yep, yep. I hear a big mic.

What's going on, man? What's going on? No much, man. So I know we've kind of just been seeing how PFL Africa is going to be starting in 2025. As African myself, I'm pretty stoked about this. How do you feel that PFL kind of got ahead of the curve on this versus UFC kind of, you know, took their time? But, you know, hasn't there any concrete plans yet? What do you feel about this move?

I know you're not a big fan of how the PFO does and how Don Davis talks and stuff, which I understand. But yeah, what do you feel about that? Thanks, man. It's smart, man. Like, it's a smart move. It's great.

There's a lot of talent over there. And this is a good way to sort of introduce that talent. Obviously, having the attachment of Francis Ngano is big. The fact that the UFC did not go there when they had three African champions is promotional malpractice. This is going to be one of the biggest mistakes they have made. Overall, I think it's, I don't think the UFC has any regrets.

I don't think, like, Dana has any regrets. But I think there's probably a small part of him that's just like, shit. Like, we should have done this first. But then he turns over and goes into his Kleenex box. And instead of pulling out tissues, he pulls out $100 bills and he dries his tears. And then he throws a $100 bill in the trash can because they make, so much money that he could do that. It doesn't, at the end of the day,

I don't think the UFC truly cares that PFL is going to Africa. I know Don Davis is going to come out and say, ha ha, we got there before the UFC, another win for the PFL. That's why we're the co-leader. That's why the fighters should come here, blah, blah, blah, blah. The problem is, yeah, yeah, you should be excited. I'm intrigued by it.

The problem is we're probably, probably none of us you're going to be able to watch it, which is annoying as hell. We put out this big press release. We get everybody excited, and then they're going to have an event, and then no one's going to be able to watch it, outside of Africa,

which is super weird. They're just doing all these different regional tournaments, and it just doesn't make sense to me. Like, Africa, I think, is a place, like, where it makes sense. Like, the meta one, like, no one cares. no one cares the european one kind of cool that's how we got dakota de chava but what pfl doesn't realize and it's something that i think we should all start to realize is what they are going to become is they are going to become a feeder league for the ufc and they've already kind of done that

and it's a different kind of feeder league this is not like lFA this is not like cage warriors this is not like CFFC where you get up-and-coming talent, the UFC can snatch you up at 12 and 12 and all that. The UFC sees the PFL not as a threat, but as a partner, almost a silent partner. And we talked about this on BTL yesterday. These free agents that are getting notoriety, like the Paul Hughes's of the world,

they are going to become free agents and they're going to talk to the UFC and the UFC is going to lowball the shit out of them because they can because they are the UFC. They have globally lapped the PFL now 52 times. Like that's how far ahead they are. Paul Hughes is going to go to PFL and he's going to win a bunch of fights. He might even win a he might even win a million dollar tournament or the season. and if he does that and his star power begins to rise that's good PFL probably give him another

contract and he'll go and try to defend his title or whatever. If that happens the second Paul Hughes becomes a free agent, he's going to the UFC. He's gone. He is gone. Just like Kayla was gone. Just like

Dakota de Chable will be gone. Just like all of their rising stars will be gone. when they're at the peak of their powers, when they're just below the peak of their powers, and they can negotiate with other organizations, they're going to the UFC.

They're going. If you think Dakota to Chavez is going to be a lifetime PFL fighter, it ain't happening. Kayla has sort of began the process of what this is going to look like. In my opinion, I could be wrong, and if I am, the hand will go up, accountability, I'll say it. but the PFL is not a threat to the UFC at all. They do not view them that way.

Data laughs them off and he should at this point, but they keep acting like they have won the race. It's so annoying. And then they introduce PFL Africa, which is a very big deal. But like what they should have done is done a freaking pay-per-view in Africa. First, like, that's what you should have done. Francis and Ghanu's PFL debut

should not be in Saudi Arabia. It should be in Africa. That's how you introduce the market. Not doing a regional season. You do that after. You think the UFC is doing the ultimate fighter Africa and then doing a pay-per-view? No.

They'll do the pay-per-view first, then they'll do the ultimate fighter Africa, then they'll open a PI and all of that. PFL just does everything back, which is man they just it's just frustrates me man because they could be something good their leadership is

atrocious their attitude is awful this whole we've already won it's just a matter of time before the co-leader the amount of excitement that people sort of had for them coming into this year and then we compare it to where

people are at with them right now. Like, it's bad. Like, it's so bad. There's no buzz around them at all. None. Like, this PFL Africa thing was cool. Francis is involved.

And then, like, five minutes later, it was just like, okay, that was fun. Now we're on something else. It's ridiculous. All right, going rapid fire. We get five minutes. I'm going to try to get to all four of you who are lined up. Drew, go. Not connecting.

MMA dog guy, do we have you? Yep, I'm here. Can you hear me? Yes. All right, sweet. So I kind of wanted to keep it on like the PFL topic, I guess, but I was listening to the Bissing podcast. And Brandon Loughnan was talking about potentially coming to the UFC after this year. It seemed like he was like pretty interested in it as well,

like specifically wanted to fight Patty, like a Manchester Liverpool type thing. So just curious, if Brennan Lof's name came to the UFC, do you think he would be, like, well received by, like, UFC fans? And who would you pair him up with? That's it. Thanks to Mike. Love the show. Appreciate it.

I mean, look, in his region, sure. I don't think, like, like, the hardcore fans obviously know who he is. But I just, like, if the UFC, if the UFC couldn't get him, like, the UFC had the chance to get him at entry level pay. and they didn't take him. When he had buzz, when Brennan-Logney had a lot of buzz as an up-and-coming fighter,

he went on the contender series, had a good performance, and the UFC could have taken him there and paid him 10-10. And they said, no, they didn't take him. I don't know if he, I don't know, it's going to be interesting to say

how they view him. To me, like, there is no to, and I think Kail, took a pay cut as well to go to the UFC, but I'm sure she's being paid still really well compared to other fighters on the roster, and she's probably the highest paid women's bannam weight by a country mile.

But to me, Brennan Lockney is probably taking a gigantic pay cut to go to the UFC if he wants to do that. That's what I think. It would be cool. If they did it, it would be like, all right, full circle. he got there i mean it took the ufc forever to sign MVP so i don't i don't know he's an interesting

one because again they could have had him they could have had him and they didn't take him when they could have gotten him for nothing so yeah he's an interesting one all right we'll keep this rolling uh carlo and city go uh you're one of the most really transparent and unbiased guys year with the whole Pth-L spiel. So I really do appreciate that. I got two quick ones for you. Is there any value on Mike Perry, man? I'm seeing it, I'm seeing plus 300, plus

390. Is there any value there? And is Boloho on the Dagestani chicken? I don't know if you've seen his new picks, guys looking shredded. How do you think that one goes down, man? Have a great weekend. I think there's always value on Mike Perry. I think if I have to bet that fight straight up, I'm probably picking Mike.

Let me see what, how does Draft Kings have this one? Where is Draft Kings? Where the fuck? God, you can bet on, get bet on everything. You bet on canoeing? Maybe I have to look into the,

to the canoeing world. Jake Paul minus 425, Mike Perry plus 300. Yeah, if it's a straight up, I'm probably taking Mike, but I don't think Mike's going to win. I don't think Mike's going to win. It'd be the best if he does, though.

It truly would. be the best. But I don't think he's going to win. I think he's going to lose a decision. But it's going to be one of those. It's going to be like, I view this in a similar light to the Nate Diaz fight, where Mike's going to lose on the cards, but he's going to have moments down the stretch.

He's going to bust Jake up. He's probably going to bust him open. Jake's going to bleed. And Mike will have the momentum coming out of the fight. But Jake will win and Mike will gain a ton from it. and it's going to be cool. I think it's going to be cool. If Mike Beech, if Mike Perry goes out there and beats Jake Paul, holy shit.

That would be insane. But yeah, I do think there's a little bit of value there. I would say, what is Jake Paul, Mike Perry? No way. Jake Paul versus Mike Perry to go the distance. no is minus 205? I would say yes. Yes is plus 150.

That seems like a great bet. That seems like a great bet. What's Jake Paul by decision? Plus 250? I think that's where your money should go. Jacob, go. Hey, can you hear me? Yes, sir.

So I was watching something on Larissa Pacheco, and I'll just keep the PFL train rolling. How would you do against some of the top women at 135 pounds? And then also, real quick, there was a tweet circulating on Twitter. It said that the sport is borderline unwatchable now. I disagree with that, but I'd just like to hear your opinion on that. Thank you. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that one up.

Laris Macheco would be, I mean, she was in the UFC before. Let's not forget. She'd not do very well. But she's coming to her own now. It'd be interesting to have her back. her at 135. I don't know. I don't know.

I kind of think she's where she needs to be. Like, she's about to fight Chris Cyborg, apparently. Like, that's about as big of a fight as she's going to be able to get right now. I don't think the UFC would, like, book her to fight Kayla again. Unless she goes out and just dust her cyborg. That might change things. That might change things.

But, yeah, I saw the tweet, and I saw the screen grab. and the social thing. I think it was M.M.A. on point that posted it. I saw this and I was like, okay, this is certainly a choice to put out there,

but at the same token, it created some interesting dialogue. It's certainly not unwatchable. Like, you can find positive as in everything, but there's just some awful freaking cards. Like, there's just some bad ones. And, like, I really wait, there's just too much.

And plus it's just a little too much of it, if we're being honest. What I want the UFC to do is something that, you know, Jed and I have talked about a lot. What the UFC should do is three cards a month. Instead of going like 17 Saturdays in a row, you mix, you do one pay-per-view, maybe two, depending on what's happening. If it's a crazy-ass month, you know, there's the, you know, there's the, you do. occasional months to do two papers and five. One fight night, one world's most famous apex card, and then a week off

in between. I think that would be a much better system because the problem with the UFC is even though they're printing money, especially with the live crowds, and the reason they're printing money with the live crowds is because the live crowds have had the chance to miss them. It is a valuable lesson in this sport. we cannot miss you if you do not go away even colby covington was missed

and we know how a lot of people feel about colby colby went away after the mazadol situation no one heard from him in a year and then all of a sudden he steps on the scale in london and people are like oh shit it's fucking colby covington wow and then people started consuming his interviews and all that like they were like

holy shit, we haven't seen this guy in a year. It's good to see you. I feel like Izzy was sort of at that point where it was just like, man, you fight almost too much. Like we need a break from the Frozen Lake Elsa lines and all that stuff. And it seems like it hasn't been as long as Colby was out for, but he stepped back a little bit. That was going to go fight DDP.

And I think people are like, all right, cool. Like, it's good to see it again, you see. And I kind of feel like that's the way it is with the UFC sometimes. Like, it's almost better to like, like, UFC 300, that time ruled. Like, everything about UFC 300 and the build the UFC 300, like, it was all awesome. And then you got a week off afterwards. And we got to, like, talk about it for another week. Let it, we got to digest it a little bit more.

We don't get to digest shit with this. because it's just like it's on to the next thing immediately. And it's like I hate when that happens. Just like this card, like 304 is awesome. This card fucking slaps. I love it. That main card is really, really good. And we're going to talk about it for like two days

because we immediately have to transition to Abu Dhabi, which is an awesome card, by the way. It's excellent. We could have. Just think about this. We could have win from 304. Imagine if we took a week off. We had Denver,

we get this card tomorrow, then we get 304, then we took a week off. And then we did Abu Dhabi, then we did 305. Like, that's a damn good stretch right there. But you know what gets sandwiched in the middle between Abu Dhabi and 305?

We get a fucking apex card headline by marching Taibora and Sergey Spebac. Like, come on, man. Try. We know you're kicking everybody's ass. We know it. We know that people will go out and sell out arenas no matter what you do. But like, try a little.

Try a little. Who's been clamoring, one, for this fight to begin with, and two, who's been clamoring for this to be a five-round main event? leading into a pay-per-view. Oh, golly. I can't wait for this TV deal to be done because I can't wait to see how it's structured. And I hope it's less shows.

I do. I hope it's instead of doing 43 or whatever it is, it's like 35. It's okay to have a week off once a month. It's fine. It's fine. Let's let things breathe a little. bit. All right. We'll give Drew one last shot and then we got to go. Drew, go.

On here, Mike. Got you? Yeah. Amy. All right. Quick thing. You just mentioned Kobe Covington. You saw on John Anix podcast about Dustin Porier going over those opponents. I would love to see him one last chance, you know, even the Gagee, the McGregor fight, just those money fights. But, and as much as I'd like to see Diaz, I think Covington versus Poirier would be spectacular. Just with, you know, all the crap Colby's talked about him. And it seems like Colby's the one that doesn't want it. Because Poyer always says he's accepted and all that.

I don't like a lie, I would love to see Poyer beat the absolute crap out of him. So let me know what you think if that fight is in the cards for Poyne's last round. I guess. But we have to remember, too, Poyer has, Poyer didn't say Colby's name. They did. And Poyer was like, yeah, probably one of those guys. and in the past Dustin has said he doesn't want to fight Colby because one he doesn't want to give him the platform

I mean that's that's mostly what it is he doesn't want to give Colby like the attention or whatever having said that I don't like Dustin's chances in that fight I don't I think it's a bad fight for him Colby's durable Colby's bigger

and Colby does something that Dustin although Dustin's take down defense certainly improved in the Islam fight Colby's just got to take him down a whole bunch man like that fight is not going to be exciting it's going to be tough and I think Colby kind of does

to Dustin what he did to Mazadol and we saw Mazadol have a moment almost had Colby on wobbly legs a little bit but I don't think that's a great fight for Dustin I don't think it's a great one it certainly isn't the most financially happy fight

like Colby's popular but like that fight does that fight headline a pay-per-view? Probably not would Dustin Nate headline a pay-per-view? Yep. Would Dustin Connor headline a pay-view? Yep. Sure would. Dustin Gachie did headline a pay-per-view.

So yeah, if Dustin has one more fight, I don't think he's picking Colby. I really don't. I think you'd go Nate, Connor, Oliver Gagachie. I think that's the order. But if they offered him Colby and it's the date, the time frame, the money he wants, then yeah, he'd probably do it. But I don't love that fight.

I'm interested to see where Colby's at right now. I was one of the few people that Colby did interviews with. Now he doesn't, I don't know, he doesn't talk to me for some reason. I don't know why. I don't know. maybe he heard that I was maybe heard my comments after the Leon fight. I also respected the fact that he was injured, but look, we have eyes. That was not a good performance.

It was a bad fight. It wasn't a great fight from Leon either. It was just a, it was a boring ending to that card. But I don't know what's there. I honestly don't know what's there for him. Like, is it Ian Gary? Like, is that what we're doing? I kind of feel like that's the biggest fight Colby can,

reasonably get right now. But we'll see. All right, I got to go. I'm going to get yelled at. King Cat, I'm sorry. Hop in on Tuesday. I'll get you right at the front of the line. But I have to go.

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