MMA Fighting - Introducing 'Anything But Fighting' with José Youngs! | Joseph Benavidez Loves Movies | Episode 1

Episode Date: September 20, 2022

Former UFC title challenger Joseph Benavidez joins MMA Fighting's José Youngs on the inaugural episode of Anything But Fighting to break down his love for the cinema, reflect on some of his favorite movies growing up, discuss some of the most overrated films in history, and which films should have won Best Picture over the years. He also tries his hand at the mysterious Bucket of Questions to close out the episode. Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow Joseph Benavidez: @JoeJitsu Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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available now, only from Audible. We're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Jose Youngst here, MMAFighting.com here with the inaugural episode of anything but fighting. This has been a project I've wanted to do for a long time.

Obviously, I'm going to speak with fighters about literally anything. about fighting. So of course, the man next to me promised you would be the inaugural guest. Dude. I'm honored. I'm excited. But you guys know him as former multiple times UFC title contender Joseph Benavitas. But more importantly, no, you're the biggest cinephile. One of the biggest cinephiles I've ever met. Oh, shit. Met period or just like in MMA? No, in general. Oh shit, I'll take that. Like in life. That's incredible. I remember we did the Oscar show. Joe. And I was like, this will be like 45 minutes. And it was like an hour and a half.

Yeah. We talked about a lot about a lot. The first one, I still, that was just one of the greatest interviews in my life in M.A. For people that don't know, I did an Oscar preview with Joe. And then it was going to be an Oscar preview. And then it devolved into end of the decade conversation. And that. But it was like at a way in or something too. It was at a media day. You weren't even fighting. I wasn't even fighting. I was taking pictures for dapper scrappers. And then we started talking about movies and we both said we should put this on camera and you're just like dude you want to talk about it on camera and then that was even like a 20 minute thing and uh 2000 and it ended because my cameraman casey was like we have to go yeah like he was packed up he was like we have to go now

like we could have kept going but that episode since that episode i've wanted to do this yeah like this specific so i want to interview fighters and some non fighters we might have some non fighters like maybe some pro wrestlers and some musicians they'll talk about fighting and why they like fighting but the fighters are not going to be talking about fighting yes and this is what this has been i've wanted to do this for a long time yeah when you told me this idea i was like dude you are the man for this job and this needs to be jose youngs and this needs to happen and i do want to before we before we get into i do want to give a shout out to nick wolf who did the music for this uh podcast and gorilla the bear who did the guy the god did the artwork

for it. Dude, guys, incredible. So two masters at their craft, helping me out. But anyway, Joe, we're here to talk, we can, honestly, we can talk about whatever we want. We can talk about coffee, yeah, it's anything. You can talk about art. I got a hot take on pretty much anything. But we're going to, we'll start with the movies. So first of all, Joe, you're obviously one of the bigger movie fans I ever see. So that's awesome. How long back can you remember? Like, when did you really become interested in like cinema and movies and everything like that? shit, man. Well, it's crazy, because I think as a kid, when we're talking about movies,

like you just watch kind of like what kids watch. And, you know, I remember liking, like, oh, like, animated movies and I shouldn't cussed. No, you can. I didn't even cuss that much. I caught myself. Okay. But, you know, like, you're watching stuff and every kid likes being entertained by whatever.

But honestly, when I kind of started getting into, I think, like, the deeper things, I remember clearly, like, same thing. with like music like when i heard elvis's voice i was just like yeah music is is cool um it was like but with movies it was um it was like a mix of like pulp fiction scar which i think our generation yeah and our ages like everyone's like oh my god movies are cool and different and like weird yeah and like it was like pulp fiction another one was like scarface yeah and i just remember that ending just sitting there like floored at what I just saw. And even like, not that it's a very cinema type movie, but blood in blood out.

Really? Yeah. I would watch that so much times. And it was more like ironic to me, even though I think it is a good movie, but like I grew up in New Mexico and I just kind of know that. Me and my friend were having a conversation in other days. Like, is it actually a good movie or do we just like love the movie? but like is it good?

I go what you mean. And I'm just like, well, it is like... I have a lot of movies that are objectively bad. Yeah. But I love them so much. Yeah. But specifically, I remember like, like, yeah, I was always watching like, Night at the Roxbury and like funny movies, like silly movies and Zoolander and stuff like that.

But like Pulp Fiction and Scarface where I was like, dude, this is like new and different. Then I could kind of start exploring from there. Oh, this Al Pacino guy. He does classics. Oh, this is Quentin Tarantino. Oh, got to watch all his. Oh, he did a movie before this called Reservoir Dogs. And I start watching that.

And then honestly, it just kind of like grew from there. But those were ones that I remember being like, yeah, these are like, these are like films. There's a select group of movies that when if someone says this is my favorite movie or one of my favorite movie, I know exactly what you know they were born. Yeah. It's like people of our generation. It's Pulp Fiction. It's Scarface, like Shawshake Redemption, Fight Club. Like those are like, oh, this is an adult movie.

And then like newer ones, you have like drive, baby driver. Like, where like- Drive is so good. Where if they say this is my favorite movie or The Matrix, I'm like, I know exactly what year you were born and what generation. And your whole personality. Or like Boondock Saints. Yeah.

Oh my God. Like growing up in New England where it's just like Irish people everywhere, like that was everywhere. Yeah. And I wouldn't even say those are my favorite. I just distinctly remember those that open your eyes. But yeah, those were like, like I said, yeah, like with that gender, you know, like, oh, yeah, those were ones where I was just like, damn, movies are cool. And at one point that one of those was probably your favorite movie at one point in life.

Yeah, oh yeah. Growing, like when I turned 15, I was like, yeah, Pulp Fix is my favorite movie. Like I'm a cinema. I know everything about cinema. Yeah, exactly. And then you watch like, oh, I love Citizen Kane. I'm like, but do I like Citizen Kane? Yeah.

Because that's the thing to say. Yeah, exactly. But does it pass? So growing up, as a little kid, favorite movie growing up. As a kid? Yeah. Oh, damn it. I had, well, you know what's weird?

Like me and my, oh, my, actually I know exactly what this one is. My favorite movie growing up as a kid was La Bamba. It's a very, you must be Mexican. Yes. Yes. Yes, yes. I love La Bamba. And, like, as a kid, like, I'm trying not to count like anime,

Because as a kid, like I was saying, you just love being entertained. And I actually started more appreciating animated when I grew up because I was like, oh, this is a real like complex emotion we're doing. But as a kid, you're just watching them. But like, so I'd watch comedies and stuff. But man, La Bumba was like my favorite movie I'd watch over and over and cry like as a kid. So that was another one. And it wasn't necessarily like open my eyes, but it was one of the first ones when I was young

that I started like feeling in movies more. because that ending Rich Like it just gets you every time But I just La Bamba was probably my favorite movie I think is like a kid

When's last time you saw that movie It's been a long time It's been a long time But me and my brother Still quoted all the time What was the first movie you saw In a movie theater? I know exactly what mine is

Mine was the Lion King Really? Yeah I cried That's amazing The Lion King is incredible The Lion King, seeing the Lion King in theaters is a core memory for me. I vividly remember going. And I didn't know what a movie theater was.

I was like, Mom, where are we going? And she's like, we're going to go see a movie. And then from that, like, there are, like, I can date myself because I remember going to see The Lion King. I remember going to see hunchback of Notre Dame. Oh, my God. I remember going to see Bugs. I remember going to see Anastasia, that animated movie. Yeah.

And I, like, all of those, I remember going to the theater and watching it in the theater. theater more than what I did the rest of that year. Like one of the most traumatic moments of my life was watching James and Giant Peach in theaters. Really? Because that lightning rhino was horrifying as a kid. And we were the only ones in the theater. My mom was like, we're going to see James and the Giant Peach. And to this day, like that is such a core memory for me.

That's crazy. So, dude, I'm super jealous that you have the clarity and the memories right now. I like, I'm trying to honestly think of a movie I saw in the theater when I was young. I guess maybe not the first. What's like an early one you remember saying? You know which one I remember as a kid being young and watching? And this is going to sound weird. People are going to be like, so you watch Blood in, Blood Out, La Bamba where the dude dies.

And this movie in the theater was one of the first movies I remember going to a theater and watching with my mom. Do you know The Cell? Uh-uh. with Vincent Diannafro and Jennifer Lopez is in it. It's actually a trip. I don't know how it would hold up now, but as a kid, it was one of those like,

oh my God, this is the weirdest movie. Like they go inside them. Vince Vaughn's in it. And he's like kind of serious. Dude, it's, you never seen this movie?

No, I've never heard of this movie. Dude, it's the cell. It's so weird. Like you basically, there's like a serial killer and they have to like get inside his mind to find where he like hides people,

like kidnaps people. So like they have to, to travel inside his mind so they like put on these like futuristic suits and they like travel inside his mind they're like in danger in his mind and like just weird like dream sequences happen and it's jlo vince vaughan and vincent diannafrio and um what year did this movie come out dude this was 94 maybe hmm i wish i knew i'm not bad i'm not good with years but i remember me and my mom watching that so speaking of like going with your mom to kind of like a movie that messed up.

I think my mom would just take us to the theater because I had two brothers and it was like the only place who would be quiet. She would just like, thank God. Oh, that's smart. Thank God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's funny enough, I remember vividly the theater I went to all the time because there was a card shot by it and I remember like going in and I remember eating pickles and popcorn because that's a New Mexico thing. Hell yeah. But like I don't remember what movies I was watching as a kid. But like that, that was my first. theater experience I feel was the cell because it was also like a very trippy like visually like dark stunning movie would you go to well they don't really exist anymore but like movie stores like

movie rental oh god yeah yeah oh it brows for hours yeah there's at blockbuster so we had like a proper like local yeah like independently owned oh i think we did maybe Hastings is that a thing i've never heard of i think it's local then yeah we would have some and i would yeah we had local ones i would be seven or six and they would break it up by genre so they would have like new releases even new releases and they would have

like if you didn't rewind it they would find oh yeah yeah yeah but they had the horse be signed and rewind they underrated movie honestly I would sneak into the horror section just to look at the covers because they were horrible they were terrifying as a case your horror

your horror movie can I like all like I go through phases Like for the last three, four years, I've been really into found footage films. Me and my girlfriend just will find any of them. If it's found footage, we'll watch it. And we don't care if it's good or bad. We don't care about the reviews. We love it.

But I found footage, it's not... Like the Blair Witch. Like Blair Witch. All right. It's found footage that's being made into a movie. It's not like found... Okay. I mean...

Okay. It's like... You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah. But that's... Okay. I see a few of those. That's...

That is my jam right now. Yeah. If they're all like... digitally done and stuff. There's like spree and some other one would that. Like Cloverfield would be one. Okay, okay. The Blair Witch, Grave encounters. I guess technically Cannibal Holocaust is one of them. That one is jarring. All the VHSs is, records, like that's my jam right now. But I remember going to the independent movie theater and the movie theater and I would just look at the covers and I would have, they would traumatize me. Like there would be like a woman with like her eye hanging out or like a werewolf like eating a girl.

Those are also core memories. Just like, I don't even know what the movies were. I just remember seeing like, this is crazy. And that's how we got into MMA. Yeah, honestly. Just scarred as children by horrifying images. My dad would rent Batman and Robin starring. Oh, shit, I talked about fighting.

George Clooney and like the George Clooney Batman. Yeah, yeah. Or memories that bad movie? Oh, those are even freaky. Yeah, even as a little kid, I knew that wasn't a good movie. Yeah. But I still love them. Yeah, I just ask because, like, I feel people like like horror movies, like, they're

obsessed with horror movies. Like, no one kind of like dabbles in horror, I feel, which is great that we do. Like, I'll watch like one if it's supposed to, but like I feel like horror people like watch horror movies. That's like their identity. Yeah, I'm in a good chat with Jessica Crystal Queen and Eric, New York Rick of MMA fighting. And we just talk about horror. Because Eric is a big slasher film like Halloween, Father 13 Freddy Krueger. And Jessica's really into like supernatural and ghost stuff. And I just, I love Haunted House movies. But I'm more of like a found footage guy myself. Yeah. One of my first horror movie memories was it. Stephen King's It. The original one. Yeah, yeah, the original. And just, I think maybe that's why I didn't grow up wanting to watch

scary movies because I, like, craving to watch scary movies because I was, like, scarred by it. Like, my, I would, we had to take bath as kids. Sure. And my brother would, like, go in while I was in the bath, my older brother, and turn off the light. And he would just, just like knock and be like, they off. And I'm like in the shower and I'm like getting out of the bathtub all like went naked. So like, yeah, that's enough. That was a memory of a horror movie that, as a kid back to kind of childhood movies and the horror movie. But I remember being scarred by it.

And I still haven't seen like the new one because of it. Oh, yeah. There's two of them. Yeah, I need to watch it. Like those look cool though. Those are generally like good films. They're filmed. That is a cinematic experience.

Okay. so if you're not a big horror guy, like you don't seek it out, what would be your genre? Like, if you just had, if someone goes, what, like, what is Joe's genre of music or movies that he's? Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm trying to cry every time out. So, but honestly, I'm mainly, like, I think when I look at my taste in movies, like, I'm very, like, character-driven. Yeah. Like, when I look at all my favorite movies, they're very complex characters.

and nothing like, you know, um, supernatural or too much. Look, I love like a good fantasy and a good, um, surreal moments and stuff like that. But a lot of my favorite movies, I feel, are just very human general characters, like, not even huge plots, not even, you know, something crazy with a twist. Like, it's like, it's a lot of, like, character. Like, all my favorite movies are like, you know, I can break it down into, like, characters. Sure. Like, what do these characters say about me?

Because you did pick the Joker as the best movie that year. Wasn't, though. I know. You changed your mind. Oh, dude, I always want to say that every time we talk. Remember, I talked about it. I was high off the experience because I went with the family. It makes a difference.

Like, I went to see Doom and my girlfriend, and that's not the best movie of the year, but that's her favorite movie. Yeah. And she's read the book a million times. So she was so into it that I became invested. Yeah. I think you caught me like two days after, too. I know.

And I was on a high and walking. Alkeen was so good, and I was just on a high. And so I can revamp, I don't know if I have, but I'll do it here again. My favorite movies from that year now, which was an amazing year, was that 19? Yes. Or 18. I think it was 19, yeah. 19.

Yeah, because we talked January 2020. I'm going to, that was like the parasite year. Yeah. But my three from that year, Honey Boy. Yep. With Shia, incredible. Honeyland, which is a documentary, which I was big on that year in the interview. and Jojo Rabbit, I'll throw in there as well.

Yeah, Jojo Rabbit was the last movie I saw in theaters that, like, jarred me. Yeah, oh God, it's so good. The scene with when her shoes are hanging. Oh, God. Yeah, the ending actually gets me, even though it's joyous. I feel like I don't like necessarily cry at sad stuff when I talked about crying earlier. Like, as much as I like to like, it's like joyous, like cries. Sure, sure.

Like you appreciated the art. Oh, yeah, and it just like, it just gets. Do you cry when you watch movies, like, a sad movies? Sometimes. I just sit there in silence, and, like, the movie's over, and I just think. You know, what's funny is I don't laugh. Like, I won't laugh in a movie. I haven't laughed in three years.

But I'll, like, cry in a movie. But, like, I can watch, like, the movie. Like, that was the funniest movie I ever saw, and I, like, won't laugh. So you think the movie's funny, you just don't laugh. I won't, like, laugh. I won't, like, be like, oh, my God, that's funny. I just, like, smirk. I just appreciate it.

appreciate like that was good you don't laugh it's like i think you should leave the show this dude i was trying like so i can't like go 30 minutes without talking about i think you should leave or quote i know i probably already did at some point text about it there there's a poster right there that paul bafano poster is a fake um is the fake game show skit um concert poster from the colgate comedy do you watch don't do you laugh when you watch it i kind of laugh like i just like i just like I just shake my head and appreciation a lot. Like, I'm just kind of like, oh, that's so good.

And then, like, I rewind and I'd be like, they just, the way they deliver that. With this show, though, I mean, I've, it's my, like, office or friends. I just every day. Like, if I'm just, like, hanging out, packing, I just put it on whatever episode it's on. And I just gain new respect for every skit, every time.

I actually have a great, there's a post on my Instagram from a while back, and sometimes I just go to it because I said, all I did is watch, I think you should leave this month, no quote, no movie log, but like, throw me some quotes. And if you, like, were an alien coming down and reading that, you'd just be like, what? My mom used to drink vomit so we could get school supplies and trips to Florida. And like, like, stuff like, like, there's just the most random things said. And then I just love that.

But like, no, like, I don't laugh a lot of stuff. I like smirk and I appreciate it. Like, that's the funniest thing I've ever seen. And then I think if I like want to quote it more, maybe that makes it funnier because like, yeah, yeah, but but I don't like sit there and laugh, which is weird. But yeah, I do, I do, I do, I will like shed a tear in a movie. What in cinema, what do you think is a movie trope that you're just, you like, you, like, you get why people like it. But like me, like personally, I'm not a big fan of like the like the grown adult like trekking across something with like a kid. like the road you know what it's like like oh like lone wolf and cub like i just don't like one adult

and one kid and they're on an adventure i just it's just not my thing i get it but like if that if that's the movie i don't want to watch it yeah shoot that's a tough one because hmm i can kind of like narrow down movies that like that's like not for me like i'm not big on like the crazy like super confusing twist kind of thing that it's like you're figuring out the whole time then it happens because I just feel it doesn't have like rewatchability because you're like well if you rely if you rely on a twist you're not going to really get more out of it you know what I mean so I'm not really like big on like twists like that or um huh on our superhero movies a trope just kidding yeah sure I don't want to get I don't want to get too hated but I don't

watch them at all either And this is my reason for that is like once going back to the character part, the thing for me and superhero movies, I haven't watched a ton, is to me it's just kind of like, and I don't want to get an argument because I know you're a big comment, but I don't know if you watch a lot of the superhero movies, though? Not really. Not because I don't like them, just because, like you say there's no rewatchability and stuff.

Like I know what's going to happen. Yeah, and you read the comics probably already. Like, there are some that I feel I should experience. Yeah. I saw the last Spider-Man movie. Yeah. And I actually do want to watch that because I'm a big Garfield fan. And I was the same when we were talking about like our years.

Like I remember like those were some of the first. Those were kind of their first of their kind like superhero movies. Like, you know, besides the Batman's like, oh, Spider-Man. Oh, I should watch that. Yeah. Like that's when they were still kind of like original in a way. Yeah, yeah. They were just kind of cool.

And now it's just like, I can't, you can't keep up. There weren't like seven or eight coming out a year. But like that's Spider-Man movie, I went. the day it came out. I heard it's amazing. It's really fun. Yeah. But what made it fun is I saw it in the movie theater and it was like when Andrew Garfield came out of the portal. Yeah. Because it was like the worst kept, everyone knew he was going to be in it. Yeah. But there was nothing official. Everyone in the theater stood up and clapped. I love them. And I was and the same thing when Toby McGuire came. Yeah. Toby was first, right? Toby was the early 2000s. Okay, okay. So that,

those first three Spider-Man's are super important to my childhood. Like they're not, the second one is the best. I'll die on that hill, but my mom let me skip school to go see Spider-Man one. I was in fifth grade. Our moms are cool, dude. They're great. Or like my favorite superhero growing up, and to this day is Ghost Rider. And when the first Nicholas Cage Ghost Rider came out, terrible, my mom was like,

you want to skip school to go see Ghost Rider? I'm like more than anything. Yeah. So it was like a Wednesday, and we were the only ones in the theater. And I'm like, this movie is terrible. But I'm so glad I'm watching this movie right now. This is my thing with the superhero movies in general. Like, going back to the conversation about characters is like, I just feel a superhero

is just a very, like, shortcut to developing a character. Like, instead of making them go through this, like, complex, realistic, like, human emotion, like just make them fly just make them do this just make them shoot webs just make them do that so their characters in general and they are going through their own battles but i feel like those are kind of like well you can build like a complex like more relatable human emotion but just give them a suit and then they're like cool so that's kind of like it's like a shortcut to character movies and i i like the spectacles of them sometimes like i actually watched like wonder woman 84 which like every super I loved it because...

Guys, I found him. Huh? I found the one guy that likes that movie. But you know what I loved about it is it was what I went in to see. Like, I went to see a giant, ridiculous, over-produced spectacle not to like, if I wanted, like, you know, a character or something a little more, like, grounded and human, like, I wouldn't watch a superhero movie. And that's what people kind of go for now. but I went to see like an overproduced spectacle and I was like this is this is great it's just terrible and disgusting and overproduced and so overdone that it was great and then it's just funny

that people are arguing like you know what was crazy is like she got in the plane and she just like knew how to fly and then this happened I'm like you're watching a girl fly around in underwear like that's my that's the point about it that's my big pet peeve when people say like oh like oh we need like realistic superheroes yeah I'm like the dude can fly in space. Yeah. Like, I don't...

He's a superhero. Yeah. Like, he, like Superman is from a fictional planet. Yeah. Like, Frank Miller, who I have a lot of thoughts on the writers. He kind of went on a rant on this.

He's like, I don't care if Superman has five o'clock shadow. I don't care what he had for coffee. I just want to go see him fight aliens. Yeah. Like, that's all I care of. I don't need to humanize a superhero.

Yeah. Like that. Just go do... Well, that's what I mean. Like... Buildings in a single town. Yeah. Like,

If I want to watch a spectacle, I'll go watch that. Like, I watched all the Jurassic Parks. And I love the worlds even. Sure. Like, the worlds were sick. One, all-time classic. Like, when that damn, Bronosaurus comes out, bro, it's magic. I believe at one point that was the highest grossing movie ever.

Yeah. History of Cinema. Yeah. Like, those are incredible. And, like, I appreciate what they are. And, like, every movie to me, when we're talking about tropes and dislikes and blockbuster and superhero, like, every movie to me is a miracle and the team behind it being made. But, like, some, I just don't like.

Sure. Some just aren't for me, but like there for somebody, and I appreciate that. But, but yeah. So like, yeah, like you're saying, oh, we don't have to make superheroes human. Like, that should be fun. This should be this. Like, you're already flying. Just be fun. Yeah. I hate a movie that, like, doesn't know what it is also. It's like trying to be so many things. It's like, dude, just, you know, be what you are. Is this why you didn't like everything everywhere all at once? A lot of it, yeah. Just overcomplicated. Wow.

Dude, this is where we have a very big difference. That's my favorite movie of the year. Is it? I absolutely love that movie so much. I went with, well, this is why you and Andre are friends. Yeah. Because I went with him and I ended it and I just like looked at him. And I was like, pf.

And he goes, fuck, best movie I ever seen 10. I was like, what? I was like, did we watch the same thing? Yeah. But like those are other tropes. Like when I talk about like the twist and stuff, Not necessarily that had a twist, but like it was just so overcomplicated. It's like you could have got to whatever point you were trying to convey in like a more like straight.

Like you didn't have to overcomplicate it. But you didn't have to. Sure, sure, sure. I mean, I guess if you're looking at it like that, you know, like if it's about the multiverse. But then it is it about the multiverse or is it about this immigrant family trip with your mother? It's like if it's about the multiverse, I'm in and let's see some wackyverse. shit, which was wacky, but then it like, no, let's bring this in. It's like those comedies, it's like, you can't just be funny.

You have to have like a super emotional moment. It's like, just be funny. Barb and Star, pure comedy. Insane. But it's like some other ones you're like, oh, is this like drama, you know, rom-coms, obviously everything's good, rom-dram, dromedes, whatever. But it's just kind of like just be funny or just be that with that. And the other thing, like I said, is just over-complicated.

Sure. Like, dude, the thing that actually, when I was just done with it, was the damn bagel. I was like, dude, a bagel? Like, what? And I was just, I just couldn't handle it anymore. Just the weirdness? That's why I loved it, though. Yeah, but like, I like weird, but, like, it's just, like, weird for the sake of being complicated.

Sure. To me. That's what it was. I enjoyed that movie because it was original. Like, it wasn't based off of anything. And I read a lot of the interviews with the directors, and they had been writing that movie. for like 10 years because they were like doing research and everything there's insane details in it and look once again going back like there's magic in every movie and i appreciate every movie

and i think there was some amazing you know um details production thought went into it like i'm not saying that i just saying an amazing movie an amazing accomplishment just like wasn't forming for those reasons and like the directors that took that movie took so long for them to write and make that in that time I don't know if you watch Rick and Morty or know anything about it but that has a very that's an animated TV show

has a very dedicated fan base and they had a whole season about the multiverse and then obviously it's like the Spider-Man did the multiverse just now and the directors

became depressed because they had Spider-Man beat him to it both of those beat him to it but like they were putting so much thought and effort into making this multiverse idea

and like the science behind it and they were just like, oh, it's a magic portal. They hop through. And they were like, damn it. We're actually, like, putting effort into this. And you're just like, oh, Dr. Strange magic. They're overcomplicating it. No.

They're not. They're putting more, they're putting great care into it. Yeah. Instead of just like, hey, it's their baby. And maybe I need to know what the multiverse is to appreciate everything everywhere all at once, but I don't know what that is either. So I was just kind of like what's happening. Yeah, I feel like it came out at the right time.

because of the Spider-Man movie and the TV show. Like the multi-per, if it came out like six years earlier, no one has heard of a multiverse. Yeah. Unless you've read comic books, because the comic book multiverse has been a thing for a long time. What's one movie that you saw

that you just don't understand why people rate it so highly? Like in the annals of time. Oh. Well, I'm just, I'm very big on like the first thing that comes to mine and what popped in my head. I mean, it should be, right?

Yeah, yeah. The first reaction is usually, the right one. I'm just going to go at it and say prisoners. Really? I hate it. Why? The one with Hugh Jackman.

Hugh Jackman, Jake John, and Dono and Dano. Paul Dano. Yep. Terence Howard. Danie Val Nueve. Yeah. Incredible director. I don't want, like, this is the thing with this movie.

Sure. It's not a bad movie. And, like, I'll watch it. I'll be like, oh, that's fine. And, like, I watched it, like, you know, whenever it came out like seven 10 years ago whatever and i was like all right that was like a good thriller it was fine but then i think since you asked like why people rate it so highly and i think my like disdain for it is how other people view it because like eight years later people are like

prisoners is the greatest thing ever and you know i saw basically like somebody said it was like better than seven and I just decided like wage a moron and I was just like no like it's not even like in the same thing like if you compare everything that seven does like basically like a psychological thriller and like what needs to happen in the psychological psychological thrillers the the red herring the killer itself the this or that like if you get all those and put sevens and those together like they don't even compare um look the acting is good and the the But like I said, it's mainly how people view it. Like, I forgot about the damn movie.

And then, like, 10 years later, people are like, one of the greatest things ever, seven, all this. And I think that's mainly it. But to me, the script is actually, like, a mess. And it's, this is, it's very, like, disguised by Villanueb's direction, good acting and actually incredible cinematography. but the script when you actually watch it on screens a mess I mean the dude like has a trunk full of snakes with blood like crawling around his feet and he opens it up and it's actually full of not clothes of murder children

but clothes that were stolen no no bought at like a goodwill in a bag so people would think they're murdered and then but it's also filled with snakes and snake blood and like when you're like you actually think of that on paper you're just like what what the hell does the maze mean all that stuff and i'll actually say this like the script is i have a lot more thoughts on it but like even like the killer the the old lady and everything like that was a twist but she doesn't like her and even the ending like they wanted to be um what's it called ambiguous ending but it's like everyone knows

he gets out like they hear him and then it's like that and i guess they filmed it the script is him getting out and everything, but like, let's just leave it here. And I was like, it's not ambiguous. Everyone knows that's happening. Whatever. The killer, like, didn't even kill anyone. Like, everyone got away. Like, kids got away.

Paul Dano got away. The kid that has the snakes and the maze thing, the weird kid, this the red herring. He got away. So, like, is she dangerous or, like, like, she's not that scary. She's like an old lady that looks like bad grandma, like, in a comedy or something, like dressed up. I'm just like, but who did she, like, like hurt like because this kid's out this kid's out they're like psychologically messed up but like

she's a killer the other two like tiny girls get out so i'm just like where is like the actual good things but it looks go so good cinematically dark roger deacons i think um is a cinematographer villain away the actors are so good and it's just very like disguised to do that but i will tell you one thing about it also the guy wrote the script got paid a ton of money and the script, since it's such a mess, set on the shelf for like three years. Oh, really? It's like, this is what?

I love that, though. Yeah, and they're just like, like, what? This is. I love that. Trash. Yeah, yeah. Like, why would anyone like, like, this is just a messy script.

Like, I can't do anything with it. It's a mess. They actually hired Villain Away because that's his first American language movie because he did the French movies. Yeah. From Canada. So they kind of like brought him in as, you know, like the ringer like hey we're gonna make you big state side if you do this script that we paid a ton

for and has been sitting on the shelf because no one else wanted to touch it and why did no one else want to touch it because it's a fucking mess but everyone loves it sorry that was a long I've only no dude I this is what we're here to talk about I saw that movie in theaters and I enjoyed it but I it wasn't you didn't think like I'm gonna go watch that again or that was a masterpiece classic I honestly I left being like that was a good movie and then it got nominated for a bunch of Academy Awards. I'm like, oh, did it? Yeah. It did? Yeah. Oh, I didn't think. And I was like, it's right, but I'm like, it was fine. I don't think it did. I think it did. I think it got nominated for stuff. Because that was the other thing I say is like when I watched it, it wasn't

anything. And then all of a sudden, it's all a thing. I was like, well, why didn't it get nominated for anything back then? If it was so good, if it was so good. But people are just coming around to it now. I don't know. But like I said, it's more how people treated it. Sure. And that was, I guess, kind of the question, why do people, and like, yeah, it just, it just pissed me off. But the one guy, someone said it was like, yeah, better than seven, I was like, no. I disagree. What's one movie? Sorry.

So then the- That was a long one, guys, I'm sorry. No, this is what we're here to talk about. On the flip, then what's one movie that you saw, like, whether it be in theaters or wherever, you saw it for the first time and you're like, this is a masterpiece. But then no one else, you felt you were the only one carrying the flag. Dude, this is so, this is so hard these on the spots. But I will say, because when I look at a question like that, it kind of falls into the kind of like underrated category. Sure.

I mean, where to me, well, actually, there's a few like straight masterpieces that I think are like no one cares about. And one actually is a movie called Brigsby Bear, which is incredible. Oh, dude, it's so good. And that's a masterpiece. That's by Kyle Mooney. Really? Yeah. Wow.

Did he even though he made anything? Kyle Mooney wrote it. It's really just like an inspiring movie. And you know, when I talk about masterpiece, I think it's like taking an idea, executing it well, but also in a very, like, original way. with a very solid theme as well. And like there's better movies in it, but like another masterpiece in that realm, like a modern masterpiece I think is misunderstood.

And I think people judged it wrong, Don John. Oh, for sure. Okay, okay, okay, good. Oh, for sure. Okay, good. Because I saw that movie and I thought that was an amazing, like it was well written, it was well acted, it was well put together, everything.

Oh, good, good. No one else was talking about it. I was like, you're all missing out. Yeah, and I think it's one of those things when almost like a boogie night, where people are like, well, is that the Mark Wahlberg dick movie with porn? And it's like, yeah, but like that's not what it is. I like Don John.

Oh, is that the one where he's addicted to porn? It's like, he's addicted to porn, but it tells a whole story of people, you know, and their expectations for life and relationships and everything and what is really important in those relationships in life. And that's why I thought like it executed that idea so well. Brie Larson, best not cameo supporting role

and it doesn't say a word the whole time and then just like finally speaks up and basically like throws out like somewhat of a thesis at least of the

yeah of the movie in a way but that was another good one another few under I'm just like throwing them off now like I thought have you seen Thunder Road that one's insane

by Jim Cummings who did like the Wolf of Snow Hollow and he just did the beta test this year that one's insane um dude i know there's a bunch of other ones um that's like such a hard one because on the i'm gonna be texting you there but dude this was yeah yeah yeah but you know on the spot how it is it's like but those were the first ones that like popped into my mind because those are kind of like my my underrated i guess ones um buffalo 66 uh was another one danny castillo Steele actually showed me that movie.

And so obviously he knew about it and thought it was good enough to show me. And like we had like a little movie week we did always. And basically when he showed it to me, I was like, wow, how have I never like known this movie? And why doesn't anyone really know about it? Buffalo 66 with Vincent Gallo, wrote, acted, directed. He actually like made original music for it, like did everything for it. And with Christina Ricci, it's a great movie. There's a movie

might be called prospect It's like a sci-fi movie Okay I think who's the Who plays the Mandalorian? He's like is it Pedro Pescal Is that his last? Pedro Pescal? He's, I think it's called

I'm gonna have to look this up later It's a sci-fi movie It's him and a girl Which I just said I don't like that trope Yeah But this is why I think it's underrated Because it hooked that hooked me So it's a trope that I don't like

But I left that being like this is the type of movie where he goes into, I feel like to use their whole budget on the opening shot because they're in space and the whole, the rest of it is just, it's just those two. And all the other characters are wearing masks so you don't even see them. But he's, it's called Prospect because he's like, I think it's called Prospect, but he's like mining a material on this, on this alien planet. Okay. But he's, and it's with this girl, this like teenage girl.

And they're like tied or stuck together because they have like a breathing. thing between them. Sure. Sounds wild. They're not, like, they weren't supposed to be there together. And then there's like a rival people trying to get this material. I saw it in an independent movie theater. And I left.

And you're like, this a masterpiece. And I left saying, I was like, this is the best sci-fi movie I've seen in like the last 10 years. Oh, wow. And then no one has heard of it. Huh. It's so good. My girlfriend, that's sci-fi is or things.

She's like, I've never heard of this movie. Huh. And. I never heard of it? And that is a pretty big actor. I mean, Pascal, the stuff he does is pretty big. There are two people in the movie that have, like, lines. That's it.

It's him and the girl. Everyone else is, like, yelling and, like, shooting or throwing things. Yeah. Like, that's it. And the whole thing is shot could have been in a rainforest. It's just, like, a foggy thing. And they're, like, trying to, like, they pick up this alien, like, egg. And they have to, like, cut it open.

It's, like, a whole scientific process behind it, and they, like, can't figure it out. And you watch and you're just, like, this, how it was no one talking about this? Yes. I was captivating. the entire time. I love when that happens. Two more I'll throw out there on the question, just real quick, because I already mentioned it, Honeyland.

Masterpiece straight up, and I'll tell anyone that, and like no one watched it, even though I got supported for some Oscars. But even in 2020, which wasn't the best year for movies, there was a really good movie. No one talked about. It's just devastating, like, drama. So if you're not, like, ready just to be, like, depressed and devastated, then maybe not.

But pieces of a woman. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was, that was a, I was like, when it came out, I was like, oh, oh, my God, this is going to, like, sweep the Oscars. Like, this is such a good Oscar movie and it was just devastating exactly what they need. And then I think it got like one acting nomination. I was just kind of like, no, no one cares.

But that was, that was a good movie. Like I said, just devastating, but yeah. Well, this will end this first segment. Oh, I'm glad we ended. We got some good ones. I'm glad we ended the conversation the way we did because it will lead directly into the second segment, which we will be back. after whatever commercial plays on the podcast network.

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I know how to do this. To segment two. Okay. I haven't thought of names with these segmenting ads, but I thought it would be fun to, to since I'm excited I know in MMA

I know we weren't going to talk about fighting but like in MMA everyone talks about you know top 10 top 15 that I love lists

so I thought everyone loves it so I thought it would be fun to do a little bit of a listing but specifically for Joe

okay we've talked about this topic a lot then now I want now we're going to make it official because we've talked

about this before we're like oh we should do something like this later okay so we have the last 10 years

Oh my God. Of best picture winners. Oh, shoot. And Joseph Benavides should I be looking at this? If you want. Okay. And Joseph Benavides

is going to tell us what should have won. Should have won that year? Yes. Oh, well, I'm going to have to remember the nominees. I got them right here.

Oh, you do? I got them right here. King. The thing is, I watch the Oscars every year. Me and Jose have big talks about it and everything.

But, you know, it's really hard to be like, oh, which one was? was that so I love it I love this so if you want to write it in you can should have not have we'll get oh we'll get there and I there's a very specific this I know the best game I've ever played I'm so excited right now if you want to write it you can or I can write it in for you it's kind of like a retrospect that's what I'm saying the last time we did this we did our

Oscar preview show can we go um who should have won best actor actresses everything next time maybe that's up I wanted to do top 15 because the UFC does top 15 but I'm like I don't think there's enough hours in the day This is the best. I dream of stuff like this. I know you do. This is incredible. And I left, you might have noticed, I left 2008 off.

Because I know what year you think. That was the day there will be blood year. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because it's 2007, 2008 Oscar, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So anyway. I love this. We can start at the bottom and go up.

Yeah, let's go with the decade. So we can start at the bottom and go up. Let's go top to the bottom. So keep it recent. Do you want to write them in? Or do you want me to write them in? I can write them in if you want. Or I can just reach over.

It's up to you. Anyway, so start at the top. 2021, of course, Coda. Children of death. Children of death. Children of death adult. Yeah. That one.

Should not have. That shook me. I mean, I grew, my, we were saying before we went live, like, there was a lot of deaf people in my family. My family is pretty invested in the deaf community. So my aunt was bawling her eyes out when she saw it because they hit home. It was an incredible movie. So what do you think should, do you want me to read the name of the nominees off?

Or is it still fresh in your mind? Because that night, me and you were just texting. I mean, it's really weird because, you know, there's Oscars and we've talked about this on our thing, but then there's like favorites of the year. You know what I mean? And so we're picking from the nominees. That's up to you. We're not like this should have won even though it's just like some obscure foreign movie. This game, you can decide the rules for this. If you want to base it just off the nominees, you can. If you want to just pull something out of your ass. I might get a little more, but I'm going to try to stick with the nominees. Yeah, because there's some of them that don't have.

I'm going to throw some in there. Yeah, because that just opens up another wormhole. So the nominees, do you want me to read the nominees off? Do you remember? I'll read them off for the people. So I know this year in general, Andrew Garfield should have won best actor over Will Smith. I'll just say that for kick. I'm in that camp.

Anyway, Cota won. The other nominees were Belfast. Don't look up. Don't look up. Neither of those. Drive my car, Dune, King Richard, Liquorice Pizza, Nightmare Alley, Power of the Dog, and West Side Story. Yeah. Well, Power the Dog definitely should have won, and we talked about that because we did an Oscar episode on my old video podcast. I think we both did that, right? So Power the Dog should have definitely won out of the nominees. However, my favorite movie was like a kind of a three-way barb and star, go to Vista Damar, Riders of Justice, and the worst person in the world. But I also really liked it. Red Rocket, Green Knight, which we're...

Green Knight was my favorite movie. Yeah, and I can't believe that it got zero. Get me started. And another one, yeah. But yeah, Power the Dog definitely should have won this year. Can I do this? Just read it however you want. I know, but I can, like, get in the camera like this.

Power of the Dog. So, 2021, the Academy Award goes to Power of the Dog. And we're doing... We'll stick nominees because if not, I'll be... like well that was my favorite movie correct so we'll just would just go since we're oscar people we're award people we are we are we're high we're high brow over the only other media person that is this invest into the oscar is you know matt ericsson for mabre junkie he is he's into it he like he can tell me who's gonna win like months before because he's like

break goes well it got nominated for this and won this which means the academy award might have like voting fatigue for this it's like he breaks it down to a science um anyway You know what? While I'm at it, I'm going to like search his best movies of that year just so if something comes up, that's not a nominee. I can kind of. Is that all right? Or is it distracted? Hey, this is your game. This is your game. 2020 Nomadland won. No. The other ones were the father, Judas and the Black Messiah, Mank, Minari, promising young women, sound of metal, and the trial of the Chicago 7. Of the nominees, I would say the father or Monari probably should have won. Actually, and I think I wanted Minari to win of the nominees, it was my favorite the nominees. But that year, I really liked, like we already talked about, promising young woman.

I really liked. So I think, yeah, that, everyone held out that year. I'm not promising young woman. pieces of a woman. I actually didn't like promising young woman at all. Really? No, no, I thought it was it was kind of bad. But yeah, of the nominees, Manari, and I think I wanted Minari to win that year. You and Casey. Of my pick. I remember when I think of Minari, I think of you, your media day scrum before your Askar-Assar-Assad fight, I asked you for your pick, and then you were just like, everyone go away. We're going to talk about Minari.

Dude, I love that. We've been doing, dude, we've been disrupting Fight Talk forever. Yeah, so that's, and then Casey and our Slack channels, it's like, talk more Minari content. So, are you going with Minari that year? I'm going with Minari that year, and my, oh, I know my favorite movie of that year. I'll use for the bad handwriting, anyway. I know my favorite movie of that year. And it actually won Best Foreign Picture?

No. Did it? Yeah, I did. because Minari wasn't in foreign for some reason because it was like half English. One best foreign, didn't get a best picture nominee,

but best movie of 2020 going back to the masterpieces we talked about in segment one, another round. Oh, my God. I remember... Oh, my God. That was the Jacksonville,

the first Jacksonville UFC card after the big pandemic. You walked up to me and it wasn't like, hello or how's life. were just like, have you seen another round? And I was like, hello, Joe. And I was like, and I was like, hello, Joe. I didn't even say hi. I'm sorry. Did John ride it into? I'm sorry. Well, we are sticking with Oscar nominees, so I'm just going to behave. Yeah. Because if not, if not we're to be right.

That's funny. But yeah, Oscar, I remember, it's all coming back to me. I'm really bad with years. Yeah, yeah. And like, long term stuff like that. Like, dude, like when I fought like Juicy A Formiga for the second time, I thought I was like, oh yeah, I fought him like two years ago. It was a good win. Everyone's like, that was six years ago. And I was like, it was? So anyway, so I have no like concept of time. But yeah, that year I specifically remember like our best pictures,

Minari, I hope gets it. That wasn't a very strong year for movies. No, no, because everyone was holding out because the pandemic and the releases and stuff. But another round was one of the, was the best movie of that year and like one of the best I've seen in recent memory. God, that was so good. 2019 Parasite won.

I saw this movie at the independent theater in Arizona. I love Parasite. It was good. The other nominees were Ford versus Ferrari, the Irishman, Jojo Rabbit, Joker, Little Women, Marriage Story, 1917, and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. It's a strong year. 2019 was the strongest year.

Like, my two of my favorite movies aren't even nominated. What I will say about Parasite, I like it too, but it's more about what we talked about earlier, like, how people like it. Sure. You know what I mean? It's kind of like, it was really good, but like, I think everyone just was like. So hyped on it. So hyped on it.

Like, is, as good it is, best picture worthy. Like, it's still overrated just because how people like, treat it. People say it's one of the best ever. Yeah. And it's like, it's really good. But like, super unique. And it's, and it's Oscar worthy, but like, I just hate how good people think it is. And it's super, super unique movie.

I'm sorry, man. No one. This is what it's all about. 2019, if I'm a best picture guy, am on Oscar Academy, like, if I was in the Oscar Academy, I'd probably maybe give my ballot to Little Women, which was like... Really? That is not what I thought you were to say. Oh my God. I loved Little Women. Love Greta Gerber, Gulloch, Sertia Wormon. Roan. but but if I was on the Oscar ballot like as me

I would try to breathe some new life and genre into it and give it to Jojo Rabbit yeah so I thought Parasite was my pick that year if I had a vote I probably would have gone with Parasite

but Jojo Rabbit would 1917 was so fun though yeah it was really good Jojo Rabbit it's between those two I think 1917 and Jojo no Jojo and Parasite

I don't think I couldn't go on with either one. I felt I had more emotions from Jojo Rabbit for sure. But I remember leaving Parasite and I was like, that was such a unique movie. Yeah. Like the storyline and everything like, because I'm a big like, if I can't predict what's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah, I'm into it. Yeah.

You obviously know a lot of what's going to happen. Yeah. Because it's based in like historical setting anyway. But one of those two. So you're going with Jojo. I'm going with Jojo. Like I said, Little Women was in my top five. that year. I have a tough year. I love marriage story. It was very Oscar worthy as well. But I think the

Oscars like need something like that, something fun, some satire, like a bit, you know, to win these things. And so if I was there casting, I'd be like, this would be good, I think, for the Oscars. And probably was my favorite movie of the nominees as well. But Little Woman was strong. What, 20, we're on, in 2018, this one I have a big issue with. I got huge issues with this. I don't even think Green Book was one of the top 10 movies in the year. Nah, nah. I'm going just off the bat.

I know Roma, the favorite. And I actually really like to Star is born as well. So that year, Green Book won. Not even Spike Leith thought that. It was Green Book, Black Panther. Fine. I like that it was nominated. I agree.

I think all movies should have, like, no movie, like, the Oscars shouldn't be so high-brow that, like, movies don't get nominated. I think they could give it to, like, Red Rocket, like, we talked about. 100% agree. Like, they should have fun movies. It was. I just don't think it was one of the top ten movies. Yeah. But I think it's an hugely important movie, and the side note, Angela Bassett is obviously going to be one of the main characters of the sequel, and she's already getting Oscar buzz for that role in that movie.

In Black Panther? In Black Panther, too. Yeah. See, I think that's cool that movies. like, you know, superhero, big budget movies get nominees, so I'm fine with it. I'm sorry, you're going. So it's Black Panther, Black Klansman, Bohemian Rhapsody, the favorite Roma, the Starsborn, and Vice. There's a lot of movies in here that I didn't think should have been nominated.

Bohemian Rhapsody was one of the maybe most overrated movies in the decade. You know that one, best editing? For the worst editing there's ever been literally ever, like ever. It's bad. Like when I watched it, I was like, you know what made this movie mad? like the editing was so terrible. Like it looked like a high school student was like exploring. And then it won.

And I was like, and even the actor, no, no. Bradley Cooper singing his own songs. Another guy puts in, like, Rami's cool, whatever. I'm just speaking the truth. Literally puts in fake teeth and lip sings. Yeah. And Bradley Cooper's over there transformed and singing himself, which is acting. We're playing acting.

He's singing. One guy's lips singing with fake teeth. and wins. Anyway. Anyway, so what do you think should have won that year? It's between Roma and the favorite. Roma is my pick. Roma's so good.

I'm going to give it to Roma. I'm going to give it to Roma. I love the favorite though as well, but best picture-wise, I think I think Roma was a little more meaningful for a best picture. Yeah, that one hit home too, obviously. God, it was beautiful.

2017, shape of water one. I actually love that movie. It was good. Shape of Water One. The other nominees were... Oh, this was a good year. It was. Call me by her name.

The darkest hour. Dunkirk. Get Out. Lady Bird. Phantom Thread, the Post, and three billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri. This is a good... This is a strong year.

So right now, I'm between... You were a big Lady Bird fan. Favorite of the decade. Yeah, I remember. Once again, just simple, character, complex. something you can continue to get more out of, you know, every watch as well. I'm definitely, I love Padam Thread, big PTA guy, but I'm going to be between, what was like the same?

Call me by your name? Call me by your name and Lady Bird. So it's really weird because when we're, like Lady Bird, I'll say it was my favorite of the decade, like straight up. Favorite movie. We'll watch it. Instant Classic when I watch it. We're going to watch it. rest of my life. Comedy by your name was like a best picture, like challenging movie to watch.

I was really, like we talked about it earlier where you like when you see like Black Panther get nominated, like those types of movies. I was really happy a monster movie, like essentially a monster movie. Ship of a water. Yeah. I thought that was awesome. I'm like, good on you. I also love Gamma D'Oro. Yeah. It was obviously like another deaf actress. So it was like it's cool to see like. You didn't love my nightmare alley this year? No. Yeah. No.

No. Kiyamo is the man, no. I understand that movie is a good movie. I just wanted more of the carnival. Yeah. Like once they left the carnival, they lost me. Yeah, yeah. It was kind of definitely split into two.

Well, I can't not give it to Lady Bird. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how great would it be for Lady Bird to win a best picture? I have terrible handwriting. Hey, we both do. Best, best movie. Best movie of the decade.

I already know what should win this year, 2016. What actually did win for like three seconds. Yeah, so for the listeners and the viewers, Moonlight, of course, won. Do you remember any of the other ones? Nominees, off top of your head? Dude, like I said, I'm so bad with yours. Once you start throwing them out. This is, I think, really top-heavy.

Strong year? It's the top of the list, like the top three or four, all have an argument. Yeah. But it's like a fourth film race. It's Moonlight, a rival, which I was really happy got nominated. Rival's nice. Fences, which was a very good acting, I think. Okay.

Hacksaw Ridge, not my thing. Okay. Garfields. Hell or high water. Hidden figures, La La Land, Lion, and Manchester by the Sea. There's some weak movies in there. There are. Very weak.

So when I say it's like top heavy, I think Manchester by the Sea, Moonlight, La La Land, and arrival were my big four that year. Yeah, some in there. I'm just like, what? Hidden Figures was an important movie, Hell or High Water. Actually,

Heller High Water was really good. They were good, but they were just like, not run of the mill, but like run of the mill for what they were. Like, oh, cool, like, country violent, like, Western. Oh, cool, like, kind of like biopic of an important, like, lesser told story. All just very, like, simple, simplistic in those ways.

but like best picture winners no but la la land all day yeah i mean like that's that's that's that's i said that i was one of my favorite of the decade i probably would pick manchester by the sea for myself just because i've actually been to manchester by the sea oh yeah yeah are we putting both of us no this is all you man this literally this says joe's list oh shit i'll take it this is joe's list we're both joe kind of right yeah yeah that's true anyway you're the more Mexican joke. My last name is Youngs, which is Irish, and you're Benevita. But Jose is the more Mexican joke, I guess.

That's the most Mexican name there is. Anyway, 2015, Spotlight 1. I remember the mission of won. I really hope at some point I pick a winner. Like, I'm like, that was the right choice. And I think I see it in 2014. I think this was, I get why Spotlight 1 and like growing up in New England. This is the most fun game I've ever played in my life.

I'm so happy you said that. So Spotlight was a big deal. back in New England because it obviously took place in New England. It was like the whole thing. But Spotlight One, the other ones were the big short, which I had a lot of fun watching. I didn't understand a single like concept they said. Neither did I. Bridge of Spot. The big short Bridge of Spies, which was I think well acted, but the plot itself was pretty just straightforward. Yeah. Brooklyn, Mad Max Fury Road, which is my pick that year. The Martian, the Revenant, and room.

It's a lot of star power in this one. Wow. Because you got Leo, you got Breed Larson, you got... Wow, wow, wow. That's really... I don't think there's a lot of strong ones there. I think Mad Max Fury Road is the one to go with in my mind.

That movie was bananas to me. You love that movie. Oh, I think that's the best... No, I don't even think. I know. That's the best action movie of all time. in the history of a lot of people will say like...

I would say that because also the way it was filmed was everything. Like it was an actual action movie. A lot of people picked Die Hard, but I think Mad Max Fury Road is the best. That cleaned up that year. That won everything. Mad Max did.

Oh yeah, I was so surprised because I didn't love it. Just because I'm not an action guy. I respected the craft of it. I was like, wow. This costume design, this set design, this... I was just, I guess, you know,

of the whole, like, for an, once again, there's things you get from certain movies. So if I want an action movie, I'm like, well, the action will have, like, a very, like, thought-out plot. It was just aesthetically such a beautiful movie, like, unique movie. Like, like you said, the costumes, the setting, the cars, everything about it. Plus, like, selfishly, I really like the lore in the world of Mad Max. I love that franchise. Mel Gibson aside, I just, I love that franchise so much.

and I'm really excited for Furiosa when it comes out. That's going to be awesome. So I don't really think that's a strong year. The Revenant was really popular. The Leo, we got eaten by, like, ripped up by a bear. Yeah, and then you won his first best actor. So. Room is also really good.

Yeah, this is your game. Can I maybe, for this one year, since I don't like the nomination, step out of the best pictures? This is your game, man. Because if it's the nominees, I'd probably do the Revenant. Sure. Just for the achievement of it and the story and everything. Like Mad Max was the achievement, but it was kind of like just too, like, fun, less serious of an achievement.

Or like the Revenant kind of had a little of everything. And I'm a big Inor Reto fan as well. But my best movie of that year and didn't get a nomination, X Machina. Wow, that didn't get, I wasn't aware that that was that year. That didn't get nominated? I think it was, dude. That's crazy. 2014.

Oh, yeah. So 2015 Oscars, right? Well, wait a second. Oh, yeah, we're going to give it to it. Sure, why not? It's your game. I can't believe that to get nominated then. Yeah.

if I'm wrong and someone's like oh dude that was this year uh because we're bad with years then I'm gonna go revenant so 2014 is very strong so this was a good year and I actually super strong I think I'm with the Oscars on this so this one I had it came down to two three I think the top 10 I think the top 10 were the top 10 of that year and it's a three person race and I birdman won which I am completely fine with. Yes. The other ones where American Sniper wasn't a big fan of. Boyhood, which I

loved. That's the one where they filmed once a year. Boyhood was incredible for like 18 years or something, right? No. Yeah, something like that. Grand Budapest is my favorite. Have you seen the Sunrise Trilish? Of course. Greatest thing. Grand Budapest Hotel. Okay.

imitation game. Which is just a biopic. Yeah, yeah. Selma. With Benedict Cumberbatch. Yep. Selma. Fine. movie, great soundtrack, theory of everything, which won the best actor that year, and Whiplash. So to me, it's between Birdman, Boyhood, and Whiplash. Whiplash coming in strong there.

I'm going to go, I'm going to stick with Birdman. Yeah. I'm going to stick with Birdhand. Love Boyhood. Didn't actually love Whiplash on the first watch, but the second watch, I was like, oh my God. I think the first watch, I thought it was, like, so overdramatic for, like, jazz. Yeah.

And like I got obviously the like obsession theme, but I was like, he's playing the drums. Like, why is it so crazy? Sure. And everything. And why is the teacher so extreme about jazz? But then the second time, I guess I kind of missed the whole part of him saying how he was even putting on an act as an actor. Like as the teacher was kind of putting on an act because he was told you kind of have to push to your limits for that. And like I got that theme the whole time as like, oh, he's pushing him to his limit.

But the fact he kind of went back on his own behavior and said, like, this is why I did that to you. I was like, oh. That was a good ending, though. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was great. So you're going to stick with Birdman? I'm going to stick with Birdman, baby.

Yeah. Did you ever see that video clip of Michael Keaton putting his speech away because he didn't win that year? Everyone thought he was going to win. Oh, no. And then obviously Eddie Redmayed one for Theory of Everything, which is he did a really good job. but I just thought Michael Keen was better. But, like, so when Eddie Redmayne's going up, like, to accept his award, you see in the background Michael Keaton and, like, putting his speech back in his...

Oh, no. And I was like, oh, that's heartbreaking. Anyway, 2013, a lot of... A lot of movies that I think aren't... Like, there's one, like, the nominees, like, Grand Budapest Hotel, like, Boyhood, Whiplash. Like, these are, like, cinephile... Cynophiles love these moves, but maybe not the... the wide public. They're not blockbusters. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I think 2013 had a lot of really popular movies that were nominated. So 12 years of slave won. The other ones were American Hustle, which had every actor in it ever. Captain Phillips starring Tom Hanks, which was a really popular movie, Dallas Buyers Club with Jared Leto and Matt Oh, I know. I know. I know. I know. We're getting it there. Gravity, which I thought was a fun movie. her That might be That's on my Overrated movie list

Because when I went to When I went to see that movie With my friends I said Imagine if this is how the movie ends That would be so dumb and silly And that's exactly how the movie ended And I was like

God I hate this movie Nebraska Philomena and Wolf of Wall Street Now we all know What Joe's get a pick Oh yeah we're going to Wolf of Wall Street

has to be Probably should have won actor too Should have won Well that's why I hate Dallas Byers Club Because McConahey and

Leto Beat Jonah and Leo And then Wolf of Wall Street didn't even win Best Picture Told her his life is really good

Yeah No I mean it is And it's important I just But would you would agree Like There are a lot of popular movies on this list

It's not like Just cinephile Yeah Yeah, there is. I felt the same way, was that 15 with like the Black Panther and some of those other ones? Black Panther was 2018 with like Roma and Starsborn. Oh, yeah. One of them had some very popular.

2017 was pretty big. Yeah, I'm going to go with Wolf of Wall Street, Best Picture. Just right, wow. Top five Scorsese. Yeah, just right, wow. That's a long name. that was your that was your um performance of the decade yeah performance of the decade it was um

top five scorcese as well um i'm gonna give a shout out to american hustle though that was gonna move because i just really like the acting in that and bradley cooper and christian bell are so good at that oh yeah bradley cooper amy adams and everything uh Jennifer lawrence right and jeremy runner jeremy renner so i went there too anyway that's a great movie. 2012, top heavy two, I think. And I actually really like...

Did you see that movie? Right? I saw that movie in theaters and my heart was pounding at the end. That was a tense movie. Yeah, it was, but you know what I mean? It's once again, like, it's one of those ones that's like tense and then you're just kind of like, oh, you know what happens?

There's also, like, Ben Affleck wasn't nominated for best director. I don't think. He wasn't? No, but it won Best Picture. And I think that's one of the... Or he got nominated but didn't win. And usually if you win Best Picture, you're probably... going to win best director. I always think that's weird because the director

makes the movie and then they don't get nominated? Like, uh, Dune is past year. Yeah, yeah. That was crazy. Dune literally gets everything the director nominated for everything the director actually does. Yeah, he did not for best director that year. What? But it was in one best picture. Anyway, the other nominees were a more beast of the southern wild, which is a super underappreciated film, I think. Amorah made me feel really weird. Oh, yeah. That's a tough movie.

Django Unchained, Life of Pie, Lincoln, which won Best Actor. Les Miserables, Silver Lining Playbook, which a lot of people love. My favorite. And Zero Dark 30. The Master wasn't nominated. What? Huh. Best picture.

I'm going to go with... Of the nominations. So the master not being nominated is crazy One of the best And they didn't they must not they didn't win oh well It's Daniel Day Lewis for actor Silver Lining's playbook is probably my favorite movie of the bunch That's a lot of you'd be surprised at how many people I meet

That's their favorite movie ever in general It's one of those like I'm just going to watch it all the time Because it kind of gives me a little of everything It has a proper amount of like sadness funniness, Bradley Cooper's She won, yeah. Which I think she actually

overacted in a few scenes. But she was fine, whatever. But I'm actually going to go with Django. That movie rules. It's wicked soundtrack. Best picture, and it's such,

it's a cinematic experience. I remember watching that in the theater and I was just like, wow, like one of the few movies where, because I think I can, I can watch like a violent movie, a horror movie, because I'm like, I'm like, this is just a movie. This isn't actually happening to a human being right now.

There are scenes in Django where I'm like, this is hard to watch. Yeah. I can't watch this right now. And I'll like kind of like turn away for a bit. Yeah. When they have the two guys fighting in front of the fireplace, yeah, and there's no music, it's just like the sounds of human flesh. Just the sound of thuds?

That's much like the apex. Yes. Or when the runaway slave gets like ripped apart by doll. I'm just like, ah, this is brutal. Yeah. This is brutal. At least in a Tarantino movie, they can kind of like bring it back. Yeah.

With Christoph Wads or doing something funny and just being overly, overly violent. You know what I mean? Yeah, because there's violence like Kill Bill where it's like cartoonish violent. Yeah. You cut a guy's head off and just sprays. Yeah. Or like Pulp Fishing. But that stuff's like tough.

Yeah. Because there's no, because I think that's one of the best soundtracks. Yeah. Like top to bottom. but like when they turn the music off, because the music is so good that when there's no music, you notice it. Yeah. And I think obviously that's why Quentin Tarantino was a master. Anyway, wrapping up 2011, the artist one.

Oh, I remember this was such a weird year. This is my pick, because we were talking about movies that you see that you just don't understand the hype. Yeah. This is one of mine. Really? I did not care for this movie at all. It's a silent film, right? Yeah.

Until the very last second, I did not care for this movie. I was also in my senior year of college, and I went to school for film study. Wow. And everyone in my class was like, this is the best movie I've seen. I'm like, is it? Like, is it? Like, you're just saying that. You're just saying that.

You're just saying that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm not a big fan. I'm not a big fan. Anyway, the descendants, extremely loud and incredibly close. The help. Hugo, midnight in Paris, money ball, tree of life, and war horse. Well, I know my favorite of the bunch, midnight in Paris, no doubt.

Hmm. Um, oh my God. Tree of Life feels like a best picture winner. That movie was a trip. Crazy movie. Crazy movie. I was trying to get into Terrence Malick for a while. I got in like, I got in like three movies.

I can do like one a month. I did, yeah. I did a few, but I actually, I did like Tree of Life. Feels like a Best Picture winner. That one like everything else that year. Midnight in Paris, 100% my favorite. favorite of the bunch. But you know what other movie was that year?

Drive. I believe. Talk about a great soundtrack. We're going to go nominees and I'm going to go midnight in Paris. There you go. Love that one. I don't even know what I would pick that year. War Horse, I thought, was pretty overrated.

Hugo was fun. Streaming out and incredibly close was good. Weird year. Health was fun. I liked Moneyball. because I like baseball, but I don't think that was one of the best movies of the year. I thought the descendants was really good with George Clooney. Yeah, moneyball was good too.

Bennett Miller, where has he been? He hasn't done something in a while. There you go, folks. There we go, guys. The top 10, Joe, I think you picked one of the only, well, Birdman was the only one. I know. Birdman was the only one. Which is the most egregious winner. That means shouldn't have won.

Yeah, like you are just, like some of these, I'm sure, like Parasite wasn't your pick, but you can understand why it won. Yeah. Same as like moonlight and spotlight. I think Greenbook, I think it's pretty egregious. Yeah, I'm actually going to say, given the competition, probably Green Book. Yeah, I'm going to actually say, yeah, probably Green Book. And I think it's kind of known in movie circles.

It being the most egregious winner. I actually think Cota is up there as well, but I give it to it once again because like that belongs there and it should happen and it has a certain, you know what I mean? Like, it has a certain set of people that it like touches. Like Green Book, I guess does too. It's a true story, Green Book, right? But Coda, once again, like, even for having that and doing everything different, I love the deaf actors winning.

But it just felt like the theme of it was like pretty simple. You know, like the different, what stood out was having real deaf actors in the story. But like the concept, the theme of it, like the story, the plot was just the very simple, like, oh, this is going to be a good, like, feel good movie. And that's kind of what it was. But I'm going to go with Green Book. I remember Spike Lee did like his little press conference. Especially for the competition. Like they had Roma, the favorite anastar is born awkward.

Like I remember Spike Lee won for Black Klanzenman for screenplay. And he did like, you know, they go and. they talked to the press right after. And someone asked him about it. He just looked and just started drinking a champagne. He's like, no comment. Yeah, yeah, good job. Anyway, this is Joe's list.

This is great. Tell us in the comments whether you're wrong or we're right, but, you know. I can't wait for the comment. I can't either. Anyway, we'll be back with the third and final segment. After any other thoughts you want to say about any of these things, Menari is a good one. I forgot that movie even existed, but I might have to go watch it again.

I only saw that movie once. Yeah, 2020. was another round. God, Ex Machina not winning is a weird one. Or not winning nominated, yeah. No, I mean, they're all pretty good. I mean, I'm glad we did it with nominees because we're awesome people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because other than that, like, if I had to do a list that year, I think it'd be a little harder. We'll do another one with acting next time. So anyway, this is the list. Tell us your list in the comments and this and that. But we'll be back again after whatever commercially you get on the podcast network.

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We talked a lot about movies. So now we're going to bring out, we can get this out of here. This is my curtain. Oh, yeah, I was like, pull it off. That was cool. This is the bucket. I'm going to call it the bucket. And I think of random questions.

at every point of my life. And I said, I should ask, but nothing, none of it has to do with fighting. It's just like random stuff. So we're going to pull. Jazz legend, Marcus the Worm Hicks. Sorry. So I'm going to pull a question out of this bucket. And Joe, you can give me one word to answer.

You can ramble. These are the most random questions. They're just random. It's not movies? Some of them are about movies. Some of them are about food. Some of them about music. This is the most fun time I've ever had.

I'm glad you said. Anyway, first question out of the bucket. Jason, Michael Myers, or Freddie Krueger? I'm going to go Michael Myers. And like I talked about earlier, I'm not a big horror fan, but my friend used to dress as Michael Myers. I love how he's, like, silent. I think the mask is, like, nice and simple.

So Shatner mask. Yeah, it's one Shatner. Someone called Jordan Peel, the greatest horror director ever on Twitter, and Jordan Peel goes, I will not have any John Carpenter. Like, I will not let anyone. one put me over John Carpenter.

Oh, nice. So like, good on you. But yeah, I agree. Michael Myers. Did you watch? Did you watch? Nope. I saw it in IMAX the day it came out.

Oh, okay. Loved it. We'll talk about it later. I loved it. Anyway, Tupac or Biggie? Well, there's a biggie post, Biggie and Tupac poster right behind us, a portrait. Um, I'm going to go with Tupac. Um, I just listen to it.

Me and Megan actually talk about it all the time, but we basically are biggie and Tupac. We're like, that's why the post. posters in here because we're like east and west coast we're basically it's a metaphor like we're total opposites but like for a moment well that's captured there but our moment in life is like we are you know you're i mean we are as one so i think pop because i think pauc is i think i listen to pock more and i think he has a little more um i think paq is the greatest rapper ever but i think biggie has the greatest flow ever pock was a much better freestylesist biggie was not

a very good he had good freestyles it wasn't that good off like off the dome yeah um from from the East Coast. Yeah. I got to say biggie. But, like, Pac, I think it's the greatest. I think Paul's a little more iconic as well. I agree. He was more of, like, he's an icon.

Yeah. Anyway, when's the last time you completed a crossword puzzle? Never? Oh, wow. Anyway. I love, like, trivia and questions, but it was just never something like I did. Two people you wouldn't mind being stuck in the middle of on a cross-country flight. My wife and my dog.

But if we're going to go. Could be anything. I would say, um, Tim Robinson and Taylor Swift, I think, would be pretty cool. I thought you were saying Kanye and Taylor Swift just for the back and forth. That would be great. But we were talking about Tim Robinson already. Yeah, yeah.

Kanye and Taylor Swift would be incredible. That would be very. Oh, man, dude, that's a fire question because I could go on forever. But I think Tim Robinson, let's go to this. Tim Robinson and Kyle Mooney for my comedic chops. Kanye and Taylor Swift for my. my music and then that's fine. Whoa.

Five favorite Marvel superheroes. Doesn't have to be the movies. I don't know if I know five. Batman? That's D.C. Joker? That's a D.C. supervillain. That's not a superhero.

No. So it would be the Avengers, Spider-Man, X-Men, Wolverine, Dr. Strange, all those kinds. Iron Man? Yeah. I'm going to go Iron Man. Iron Man? So we'll just do top one. Iron Man?

I'm going to do Iron Man. That's cool. Respect. Respect. Ooh. What's one basic word you can never spell correctly the first time? Funny enough, like, even today, prefer. Okay.

Because I forget, is it like prefer or perfer? I can't spell definitely. Definitely? I always like add an extra tea or an extra out. I can't spell fatigue either. Oh, hilarious also. Because I always think it's. I think it's one L and I always think it's two.

Hmm. I think it's one right? It is one, right? It is one. Yeah, I always think it's two. Like hell hilarious. Five best Halloween candies. There's a lot of words I can't say, though.

Which is funny. Halloween candies? Five best Halloween candies. Oh, shit. Smarties are classic. Especially, I mean, any actual, like, mini-sized candy bar? Yeah. because like candy and candy bars are different.

So many candy bars, I feel like really changed the game with Halloween candy, like Twix, Snickers, Smarties. I think we need something like sour, like a sweet tart. Okay. There you go. No wrong answers. Those were just the first. No wrong answers.

Once again, it's the mind thing. Sure. It's like those came into my head. They must be right. My mind must have told me for a reason. This is a question that I'm pretty confident. Almost no fighter will be able to answer. Okay.

How many prime numbers can you name? I'd be shocked if just people in life can name five prime prime like prime numbers. Oh, like 81? 81? 81? Well, no, 81 is not a prime number because that's nine times nine. A prime number is anything times a full number. So one, two, three, five, seven, eleven, thirteen, seventeen, like nothing times nothing.

Something times something can't equal 17 if it's a whole number. Like obviously, you throw decimals in there. So it's weird, it's weird numbers like that. Oh, dude. No. Yeah, see? I threw that in there because I, because I based, like, when I have to pick a number, I'm always like prime number.

Seven. There's some guys out there that they could do it. I'm sure. But I threw that in there because I always ask people that. I'm not the guy. I ask everyone that and almost no, I don't know a lot of people I can name. I like math, but. Ooh, Charlie Brown Christmas or how the Grinch stole Christmas?

Grinch. All day. Live action or animated? Live action. Yeah. But I'm also going to throw in Muppet Christmas is there. Good times. Most overrated musician.

Most overrated musician. So I guess it could be like what's one, like we talked about what's a movie that you just don't understand the hype around and you show those prisoners. What's a musician that? You're just like, I don't get it. Um, damn it,

damn it, damn it, damn it. There's a ton of them. But I'm actually going to, dude I'm drawing a blank it's not good because I can think of musicians I like

but not that I don't well honestly I wouldn't say I don't get it but dude I was gonna say I don't like like Drake but like I

I get why he's like my people like him I guess I don't because it's very like a formulamatic like sound copy paste but I guess I would I guess I would I guess I would say Drake. That's my answer for sure.

Even though like some like this is the thing I used to hear and be like, oh, this is cool. But then I heard more. I was like, is that the same one or whatever? So yeah, I go. Go Drake? I'd go, I'd go Drake. And probably any of the people that I don't know that everyone likes. Like all the new rappers that I'm like, oh, what does this guy sound like?

Like whatever like crazy like name. Like little yard. Amigo. Slousane, like knife, like knife master tire thumper. That's a dope name. Or whatever.

Sure. And then you just like listen to it and you're just like, dude, why? So like all those ones. Generational music, I guess. Is a hot dog a sandwich? Only if it has a banana instead of a weenie. Okay. Sure.

No wrong answers. Yeah. One art piece, the most captivating art piece you've ever seen. Ooh. the most captivating art piece I've ever seen, it's actually two, and one is a modern version of a classic piece. The classic version is Hieronymus Bosch, the Garden of Earthly Delights. And the modern version, inspired by that 3D and way bigger, is called Triptych by Dustin Yellen.

and I could stare at that. I mean, I did stare at it forever every time before I went in a gym. It was out there. But triptych by Dustin Yellen and Hieronymus Bosch, Garden of Earthly Delights. Go look it up, folks. Joe knows his art. Joe knows. You could have done an episode on art, honestly.

I got a Jeff Coons and a, well, that's not really a Jeff Koont. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's actually famous artist, but then I was looking at the Miracami album. cover, even though it's a Kanye, Kid West, or Kid Cody. If you had to star in a musical, which musical would it be? La La Land.

Because I love the character, Sebastian. Probably would have picked Rand. I love Rent. One fictional character you would love to fight. One fictional character I'd love to fight? Oh my God. Dude, these are so hard because I'm drawing a blank. A day doesn't go by,

then I like watch a movie. I'm like, God, I wish I could punch that. guy. You know what I mean? And then you get the chance to actually punch him theoretically, and you're like, who would it be? Mine is Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter. Without question. Yeah? Oh, yeah. I think that's a lot of people's pick.

Dude, this, I mean, I've never seen the Harry Potter's. This is really hard. I just don't have one off the bat. We'll circle back. We'll circle back. I'm sorry. You know what? me? I'm retired. I'm retired. I don't punch people anymore. There you go. Coke or Pepsi. Coke? Sure. King Kong or Godzilla?

King Kong? Sure. He sounds cool. He's dope. Oh, Judge Dred, Predator, or Alien? Predator. I don't really know why or any reason. It just... Have you seen... Okay. Have you seen Prey, the new movie on Hulu? No, I heard it's good, though. That movie is Bad or good? Unbelievable.

Oh, it's good? I was floored by that movie. That's already the best predator movie ever. It is unreal how good that movie is. The characters, the writing, the setting, it's so basic. I love that movie. Everyone actually said it's incredible. And it's a remake.

That's why I think everyone's not a remake. It's like a prequel. It's like a pre-year-old. Everyone says it's amazing. Okay, two-parter. Five Best Tom Hanks movies. Not Elvis, even though he's just, the porting but um sure that was terrible he almost ruined it for me that's my favorite movie so far

twenty twenty two but anyway five best tom hanks movies that sucker well forrest gump incredible big incredible dude there's so many there's so many there's so many there's so many because like the musical one is really good but a league of their own is really good the burbs is super underrated. It's fire. I'm also not for nothing, a big toy story fan. Toy Story, yeah. I forgot.

Road to Perdition, I think, is also incredibly underrated. Road to Perdition. That, well, Forrest Gump. I'm trying to think. Philadelphia. Yeah, Philadelphia, but it's one of those, like, you know, like traumatic movies, and it's like, it's good, but, like, I'm not going to like. Sure, you're not going to rewatch it again.

Watch it a bunch. Well, what did we have? Forrest Gump. You said Forest Gull. You said the burbs. And I said, Dude, I'm doing... Big.

I'm doing... Oh, big. Big is the one. But I feel there's another, like, old one I really like. I mean, like, the money pit was really good. A lot of people, like, castaway, too. Yeah. That's fine.

I'm a big toy story guy. Yeah. Dude, big... Captain Phillips is popular. Big is the one to me. And a league of their own. There you go. Oh, Turner & Hooch was nice, too.

Terminal a lot of people like. Yeah. That thing you do, fire. All right, then second part, most overrated Tom Hanks movie. Most overrated Tom Hanks movie. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. I think it's Captain Phillips.

You think Captain Phillips? Or Sully. No, Sully, I think. I don't know if I've seen Sully, so I'm going to go Sully. There you go. There you go. All right. It's pineapple acceptable on pizza?

Yes. But this is the key component. Because this is actually a good question. Food questions, you got me all day. Sure. This is the key component of pineapple on pizza. Everyone does it with ham, and it's too much sweetness. It's a Hawaiian pizza.

Oh, yeah, pineapple with pizza. And it's just too much sweetness, and the pineapple stands out so much because the ham does nothing really to counter it, and it just doesn't go good together. What you need to do is pepperoni and pineapple. I just... And it's the saltiness of the pepperoni with like the acidity sweetness of the pineapple. They make a better combo.

And if you really want to get crazy and throw your taste buds in, throw some jalapenos. Halapeno, pineapple, pepperoni. You had me with the jalapenos and the pepperoni? I can't do pineapple on anything. No? It's the only food in the world that I will actively like, no thank you. Oh, really? I'll try anything.

Okay. Like there are foods that I don't, I won't seek out. I'm not a big olive guy, but if you give me something with olives, I'll eat it. Same as mushrooms. Oh, I love a good. If you give me anything with pineapple, I won't touch it. Wow. And so Esther, Esther Lynn, the old photographer, I'm making.

She thinks that's like a genetic thing. I love you, Esther. Because you know, like some people can't have cilantro because it tastes like soap. To me, pineapple tastes like if you took a watermelon and just let it sit out in the sun for a week. And then it's just awful. Really? Like it makes my mouth hurt. I love the citrus.

It's such a good citrus fruit. I immediately gag when it touches my tongue. That's so weird. I thought you'd be like allergic to it or something. No, I can't do it. Like, I just immediately, I'm just like, like, immediate. So you, even if it was good, you wouldn't like it on pizza? No.

It's not like a pizza thing. It's a pineapple thing. It's a hundred percent of pineapple thing. Okay. Pep and pine. I'm telling you. Two-parter, Rihanna or Beyonce. Two-parter?

So Rihanna or Beyonce is the first part of the question. Okay. Well, it's different. I think musically. well, Beyonce has a better catalog because Rihanna really hasn't made an album but her album she made is actually incredible but Beyonce has a better

I think body of work I think Beyonce is a little more iconic so I'm going to kind of go there Destiny's Child or TLC TLC All right well three more because it's kind of late over here Damn it! I mean we can go all that I'll do all of them. No I don't care I don't care

No dude do whatever you want it's your show Okay, five best horror movies. Five best. You could do one, you could do three. I'm not very good about it. Let's try three. Three. Dude, I'm so bad with horror movies.

And I'm just like, I feel the rapid fire are so hard to get. You mean, it's like when someone asks, like, what's your favorite fight? And you're just like, well, which one happened last? Well, I know Hereditary is one of them. Dude, I'm so bad with horror movies. That's just, I would say, I think. Because it's good. Hereditary is up there.

I think the best horror movie ever is The Exorcist. The Exorcist, yeah. I think that's just a good movie, whether it's horror or not. I like Get Out a lot. Get Out if that's a horror movie? Yeah, we'll go with that. I really like, because a lot of people don't, they don't think of it as a horror movie, but it 100% is the original alien.

Ah, okay. I think that is an unbelievable horror movie. Yeah. And then the original Halloween is unbelievable. Yeah. I think that's a good movie. Limp biscuit or corn. Corn.

five best romance movies so you can do like three well I love romance well I'm actually gonna like give silver linings a romance I'm gonna do midnight in Paris

was really good and then for the final three I'm gonna do the before trilogy uh huh there you go before sunrise sunset and midnight and that's those are the best romance movies I think

ever. How old are you when you learn to ride a bike? I was pretty young probably like five. Favorite soup? Huh. Huh. Maybe like fah? Ooh. What's one classic movie you're embarrassed to say you've never seen?

Since we just talked about it, alien. Really? Yeah, that's pretty embarrassing. I played it off well. It is. You know, for a long time, mine was sound of music. Yeah. And then I finally watched it. Yeah.

And it was fine. Dude, the thing is, no matter how much you like movies, there's always, like, some of those obvious ones you just, like, haven't seen. Like, I've never seen Lawrence of Arabia. Yeah. That's probably mine. I'm embarrassed. Yeah.

And I think there's a ton of them. But with Alien, it's like, I'm not necessarily a horror guy and I'm not necessarily a sci-fi thing. And I know it's considered, like, the best of its class. But it's, like, since those aren't my genres, I haven't seeked out the most classic one of it. which is alien. So when you just said that of the blog, I was like, yeah. What's your favorite book?

The Bible. All right. Okay. Three best fictional dogs. Three best fictional dogs? Dude, holy cow. Scooby-Doo? Sure.

Snoopy? Sure. This is more like, can I name three fictional dogs? Well, you got wishbone, you got slinky dog from Toy Story. you got Pluto and Goofy from the Mickey Mouse. I'm going to go with Pluto. Okay. Yeah.

Is Goofy a dog too? Yeah. He's a bipedal dog. Oh, he's a terrible father. Yep. Best birthday present you got as a kid. As a kid, I don't know, but as an adult, my wife. Well, I always, like, asked for shoes for Christmas, so I got some cool shoes.

But as an adult, Megan, my wife. There you go. took me to Cuba invited my two best friends to meet us there as a surprise. We all hung out in Cuba for like four days and then on the way back in Florida we went to see Taylor Swift Reputation Tour

and that was an incredible birthday gift and also one time she took me to the Coliseum in Rome for her birthday. So that was cool, too. First celebrity crush. First celebrity crush. I think it was like Tyra Banks. Okay.

Or like Brooke Burke. Remember her? Yeah, of course. I'm wild on. Yeah. How old were you when you learned to tie your shoes? I don't know. 30.

Star Wars or Star Trek? Star Wars. Good answer. Because I've only seen him. Are we just going through? Yeah, we've come this far. We're just plowling. Yeah, if you just see one, we'll just go for it.

Indiana Jones or Han Solo. Indie. Andy. You excited for the new movie? Is it a New Endo Jones 5? It's going to be his last time playing them. Let's get it. Dream car.

Dream car? Dude, I hate cars. Me too. Like, I literally, like, I don't care about cars, so I'd probably just get, like, a nice, like, Cadillac, sedan, Seville. My best car I ever had, which is actually my dream car, was 86 Lincoln Continental. Wow.

And that was my favorite car, and so it's kind of my dream car, too. Favorite bread? Favorite bread? Sourdough? That's the correct answer, everybody. Dude, oh yeah. That is the correct answer. 100%.

Snowboarding or skiing. I love bread, dude. So do I. All I do is eat bread every day. Snowboarding or skiing? Skine. Sprite or Mountain Dew? Skeen's more classy.

You know what I mean? Sure. Sprite or Mountain Dew? Yeah. Why I order Sprite more? Sure. But like Mountain Dew is a real treat. Sure.

You know? I can't even remember the last time I had Mountain Dew. I can't either. Yeah. But that's because it's a treat. It makes my teeth hurt. Like, Like Sprite. Sprite I can just order at any time.

But like Mountain Dew, I'm like, I'm raging. First CD you bought with your own money, if you can think of it. Dude. I remember vividly buying mine. Outcast the Queminai. Wow. That is such a good first album to buy. Mine was Ride the Lightning by Metallica.

Oh, nice, dude. My neighbor had to go with me to buy it because I wasn't 18. Yeah. Because it was like parental advisory. That's a good one. Outcast to Querminai? But at the same time, that was like my first CD. I had a tape that I, like, lived for in my tape player.

And all I had and played in my car was Chaudet Diamond Life. Julia's restaurant has a Shade a Sunday. That's a milk. Yeah. I think you know the answer to this one. Coffee or tea? Coffee. Joe's, we could also do a whole episode on Just Coffee with Joe.

Three favorite movies starring The Rock. Um Jumanchi Sure Loved it Pain and Gain Oh yeah That's a fun movie

That's a wild one And then There's two Jumachis There you go Three favorite Three favorite kung fu movies If you can name three Oh

You kill Bill? Sure You do that one I think mine would be Because I'm a big Kung Fu guy Drunk and Master 2 starring Jackie Chan I think it sets the bar

enter the dragon of course and then what should have been a game of death i think it was called their tower of death with starring brusely where he goes up it's where he fought fights kremanman vandal jubar that never got made never got finished he died yeah that's like if i could change one thing about movie history it would be finishing that yeah uh first film to make you cry the bomba there you go mine's lion king because that's nice balled my eyes out uh what one song lyric gives you chills. Depends on the day, my friend. Depends on the day, but there's, there's, there's quite a few.

There's, there's quite a few Taylor Swift lyrics that actually really get me. But, yeah. Best sports movie. I think you said a league of their own. You like a league of their own, right? Best sports movie? Yeah. Well, if Rocky and Raging Bull count and Bloodsport, those, yeah, Rocky Raging Bull and I like the

fighter and blood sport and finally uh what's your favorite shoe in the history of shoes sneakers sneakers like not brand like do you have like a like a sneaker that i like a like a sneaker that i like a lot yeah the thing is i love style and i love shoes but i don't have like a specific um a specific um sneaker that i wear a lot um but there is this pair because i really just wear like normal things. Sure. Right now I have a pair of ASICs that I really like, but I don't even like know the name of them. Sure. Exactly. I think Stan Smith are really a nice classic shoe, but also have this pair of an Alexander Wang, Adidas collab that like I never seen anywhere and I really like those.

I'm really bad on the sneakers. I'm a big P.F. Flyers, huge P.F. Flyer fan. Like I grew up in Converse. I've seen you wear them all the time. And then I like Thursday boots a lot. Oh, okay. Big Thursday boots fan. And Doc Martin's, obviously. Yeah, Doc Martin's. Oh, those sneakers in?

Well, I'll say shoes in general. Okay. Because sneakers are, I'm not a sneaker head either. Yeah. Like Mark and Monday of ESPN, all he does is talk about sneakers. Like Ray, my friend and cameraman in ESPN is like a huge sneaker head. They'll be like, oh, the 83 Jordan Blas. I'm like, I have no idea.

With the lime green. Yeah. I know we don't talk about fighting, but like Nate Diaz at his press conference yesterday. He was wearing Travis Scots. there are like $2,000 sneakers. Yeah. And he had a bag of ice on his knee, and it melted, and it soaked his shoe completely. And he was like, these are soaked wet Travis Scots.

And I could hear people's heartbreaking. Really? Because they're really expensive sneakers that were just waded down with water. The thing is, in my closet, I mean, I literally have like 12 rows of shoes. Sure. But I like, they're just regular like boots, Doc Martins, you know, do your classics. Sure. A few loafers, a few white sneakers.

Anyway. Three A-6. That's the bucket, guys. If you can think of any questions, throw them in there. I'll add them there. That was fun. I'll be driving,

and I'll just be like, this would be a weird question to ask people. Can I send you questions to put in there? Absolutely. All right. If anyone wants to send me a question, I'll just throw them in. This will have,

this bucket will have to get bigger. That's a good one. Like, I'll be driving. I'll be at a red light and be like, I wonder what everyone's favorite type of bread is, and I'll just, like, write it down, put in the bucket. We should get a,

or you know what I'm glad we did all that but you should do like I'm going to draw I don't know do we have a number at first or we just kind of play the gauge

I think I was gonna try I think we were gonna I was gonna set of time and you just kept getting into it I mean and then we got so far I was like might as well just finish the damn bucket off it's the first show

sure let's go big or go home anyway thank you guys so much for watching slash listening to the inaugural episode of anything we're fighting this was a dream come true this is to do that Oscar thing

and everything I was like dude Thank God. Like, I love talking to people, but like about this was perfect. Yeah. You're the best. I'm really happy. This is going to be amazing.

I'm really happy this happened. And, of course, we'll, I don't know how often. Like, we'll probably do like one or two episodes a month. Okay. I know I've talked to the few fighters that definitely have ideas that they want to do. But thank you so much for being the first, the first guest. Dude, an honor. When you asked me, I was like, dude, like, this is, this is a dream of you.

And you're going to have, well, you will come back for the Oscar episode. Oh, hell yeah. For sure. We're going to have to do a coffee episode. slash art. And more importantly, we're going to have to do a, I think you should leave bracket. We have to. Which we talked to. So when season three comes out, whenever that does, that will be that episode. We'll do a bracket. Dude, we have to. Well, the thing with season three, I'm just going to say it, we'll have to wait a while because I feel with the show, like, the more you watch it, the more it festeres into your brain. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you can't give it one watch, then be like, that's a

a good one. So like one and two are so perfect right now. I'm down to do that. It's great. You know who's a big, I think you should leave fan? At least every time I go on Twitter, they like the stories and everything and sometimes quoted is Ben Folks. Yeah. Oh, he's huge into it. He's so into it. Like I remember I posted something about it and he mentioned me like, oh, like you like, you did. You saw how I liked all the post. Oh. Oh. And then I saw you up. Yeah. Immediately. The thing is about the show, it's a language, bro. It is. It's a language. It's a language only you understand. Like I talked about like the posts I have on my Instagram.

Like if you went to that post and didn't know the language of I think you should leave, you wouldn't understand it. Just like when someone speaks French in front of you, you're just like, or another language, Spanish, anything. It's a language. You're just like, what the heck. But when you hear somebody somewhere else speak, you know, your native tongue or the I think you should be done. You're just like, wait, wait a second. So I literally saw you like a meme. I was like, hey, dude, you watch it.

I think you should leave. I saw you like this post. Like, heck yeah. And then like we just went off. I got too much fucking shit on me. I can't see shit out the side of the chin kills. Oh dude. I can't handle it.

But you know what I mean? It's it's a language in that and that manners. Like you only understand it if you like know it. But also in the way of like you have to be engulfed in it. Yeah. Like it's not something you can be like, I watched it once. I understand it. It's a lifestyle.

Yeah, it's a lifestyle. Do you watch what we doing in the shadows? Yes. I love one. I think that's the funny TV show ever. It's incredible. That's, uh, it's perfect. That's like me and my girlfriend, like, that's our language.

Oh, what we do in the shadows is amazing. I'll just be like, my big time girl. And she'll, she'll just be walking by. She'll be like, my rotten soldier. And she'll just like point out of me. Oh, oh, I love it. Well, but we'll, we'll bring you back for the, I think I bought making some, um, what we do in the shadows, uh, merch on Etsy.

Oh, yeah. I, I, I routinely walk around with an energy vampire shirt. It's the best, dude. Routinely. Oh, Colin Robinson. Anyway, thank you so much. This has been Joe. This is Jose.

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