MMA Fighting - No Bets Barred: Best Bets For UFC Vegas 81, Plus KSI V. Tommy Fury And Logan Paul V. Dillon Danis
Episode Date: October 11, 2023Following the unpredictable UFC Vegas 80, the world's leading MMA promotion returns with UFC Vegas 81 and an unheralded fight card from the Apex, headlined by a featherweight tilt between Sodiq Yusuff... and Edson Barboza. That's not the real main event this weekend though as influencer boxing returns with arguably the biggest event of the month, featuring matchups between KSI and Tommy Fury, and Logan Paul and Dillon Danis. Conner Burks is out this week for travel so the esteemed Mike Heck once again comes to the rescue to chop it up with Jed Meshew about both major events this weekend. Topics include a number of live dogs on the UFC card, of couple of intriguing prop possibilities, and Mike Heck even placing a wager on whether or not Dillon Danis shows up to the fight. Tune in for episode 65 of No Bets Barred. Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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What is going on, y'all?
That's right.
It's another edition of No Bet's Bard,
and you may be thinking to yourself,
self, that doesn't sound like
the dulcet tones of Connor Birx,
our gambling prodigy, and you're correct.
It is the sultry tones of myself, Jedmishu.
I'm in the chair this week, ladies and gentlemen,
because Connor is again traveling the globe.
I believe he's in Europe for some sort of an event
that I guess we'll talk about as this show gets on.
But in his absence, if you won his gambling picks,
you're going to have to listen to or watch, I suppose,
the MMA hour this week.
You know he's going to have you.
covered there.
But in the interim,
I've called on a man
who's answered the call before
in these very circumstances,
the one,
the only,
the voice of MMAFighting.com,
realistically.
Mr. Mike, heck, Mike,
how are we doing?
Are you excited for UFC Vegas 81?
I think I'm a little more excited now
that I get to place a few bets.
So I guess I'm a little more
into the card
than I was a few,
days back. I got to say that this card is not that bad. I don't like the main event
doesn't jump off the page. It seems like a wonderful co-main event for an apex card. But
some of these fights are really interesting. We're going to get some squashy squashes. We got some
high lines. We got some fades for sure. We got the rematch of all rematches. And I'm not talking
about Islam Makachov, versus Charles Olivera, I'm talking about finality. I'm talking about getting
the answer we've always desired, well, not always, at least we have for the last few weeks.
Is Edgar Chira's better than Daniel Lacerda? Is Daniel Lacerda going to avoid-
at this point? Yeah. Is he going to get finished again? We don't know. Maybe Daniel
Osserter could save his job. That is intriguing to me. I don't think he will.
Or can Daniel Lacerda become the man with the worst resume in UFC history? These are things we'll get
into and more.
I'm excited you, you sort of mentioned
a lot of this at the top because
a couple of things right off the bat.
One, I'm running the show. I'm in charge.
I'm the captain now.
This is going to be a tight one. We're going to keep this
tidy because
look, I agree actually. This card
is better than I sort of initially
gave it credit for. It is majorly
lacking a main event.
But I ended up with a ton of bets
this week because I thought
that there were some spots. And like you said,
the most important thing, Connor and I say this all the time, maybe me more so than Connor.
Look, if there's one way to make a trash card better, it's to put some money down and at least
you're invested.
And so I at least have a lot of play this week.
We'll talk about this.
We're going to have to, and we say have to.
I'm actually pretty pleased to talk about it.
But at the end of the show, if you're not into the influencer boxing scene, if you don't
care about Dylan Danis, Logan, Paul, you can turn this thing off, you know, the last 10 minutes
because we will be discussing that.
But before we do any of it, Mike,
we got to go back a week.
We got to retrace our steps
because I have two important things to say about last week.
Of course, U.C. Vegas Aidea, you know, we all remember.
One of the cards of the year, I think we'd all remember two things from me, Mike.
Again, Connor's not here.
I actually don't know how he did last week.
I would have had maybe my worst week in the history of this show
setting aside the Valentina Shvchenko all in bet.
You know, that's a whole separate issue.
I couldn't pick one to save my life last week.
Grant Dawson, Grand Dawson has a parlay piece.
Grant Dawson by K.O.?
Nope, 30 seconds and I look like an idiot.
Alex Marono, he's just going to outwork Joaquin Buckley.
Not even close to being true.
I didn't even want to bet on, I drew over in a parlay with Grant Dawson.
so that didn't matter.
Alexander Hernandez thought he had a buy low spot,
an opportunity to as an underdog come through.
3027s across the board.
I,
I who have supported Karelynekovo Kavich for the past two years,
been steadily betting on her.
Just like, no, this is the time.
Belbeda's got her.
We're finally done.
I got so many 3027s hung on me last week, Mike.
It would.
It would be a tragedy, except for one.
thing. One thing. And it's Mr. Joe Pfefer himself because I said, you know what? Sometimes you got
a zig. Sometimes you get a zig when everybody's zagging. Joe Piper by K.O. played out. Everybody
knows it. This is going to be his Jack Delamadalena, where you think he's getting the K.O.
And instead he's going to show the submission prowess. Nailed it plus 600.
K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. Mike, how did you feel about it?
last week.
I felt bad for anybody betting on any of these cards because it was just tough.
It was tough.
Even like my official picks like, I think I went 0 and 4 to start.
And I'm just like, man, I suck.
And then I ran off like six or seven in a row.
Got a little gift from the judging gods with the Vanessa Demopoulos correct answer by
decision, which I don't, I mean, I don't think it's as egregious as a lot of people think
that decision is.
But I just know that if I had actually bet Vanessa Domopoulos by decision, which I don't know, I mean, I don't
by decision, which I absolutely would have in that spot.
I would have been breathing a big sigh of relief.
And I would have been pretty happy to take some extra shekels that I may or may not have deserved.
And of course, we also have Bell Tour 300, the chalkiest, stinkiest parlay of all time,
just parlaying up the three champions.
Without no doubter.
I have gone back and watched all of those, Liz Karmush, Chris Cyborg.
And my man, my man, Nirmie 2.0.
not quite ready to call him the best lightweight in the world but man i'm getting there i'm
he's going to be up high he's going to be so high i already think i have him the highest in my rankings
and buddy he's going to be so high coming off just a total one-sided fight there so good week into fights
now we got this week into fights and i got to be honest we said it at the top i didn't think this
was a great card i thought last week's apex was better i thought granddawson bobby green is a better
fight, certainly as a main event and the other fights seem better. But I will at least give
this week credit. This got better the more I looked into it. Still, this is a very, very low-end
apex card. There's not a lot to rope you in if you aren't deeply invested in the MMA game.
But if you're not deeply invested in the MMA, if you're not deeply invested in the MMA game and you're
listening to this, I love you. I love you so much because I don't know why anyone would listen to
me talk if they weren't deeply entrenched in MMA lore.
So without further ado, Mike, we're going to do the same thing we always do.
We're going to chop it up.
We're going to talk about Vegas or Apex 81, and that all starts at the top in your
main event, featherweight contest between Super Sadiq Yusuf and Edson Barbosa.
Let me pull up odds right now because I actually don't line them in front of me.
So, Sadiq Yusuf, your betting favorite at a, well, minus 1,16.
depending on the book.
Come back on Edson Barbosa
is looking at about plus 140
depending on the book.
So Mike, I got thoughts here,
but I want to start with you.
You're the guest of honor.
Tell me what we're thinking about
for this main event.
So I have to take what I feel aside
and I have to actually put
what I feel is the most valuable pick here.
And I have to go back to
the last time we saw Edson Barbosa,
compete. He was taking on a young hungry lion who's very durable and tough to finish.
His name is Billy Corantillo. And what did Edson Barbosa do? He absolutely
gasped him. Ran that dude. He just destroyed him. And it's very tough to do that.
Vicious K.O. knee in the like first two minutes or something. It was awesome. I was on Edson Barbosa
underdog odds. It was awesome. It was he almost forgot moment. And the way I kind of view Edson Barboza
at this point, and I think we've seen it all sort of play out, is if he's not fighting guys
that have a chance to get into the top five, he's probably going to win.
Like, I just feel like his experience, his finishing power, even against guys who don't get
finished, he's just ridiculous, man.
Like, it was very tough to finish Shane Burgos.
Cater did it.
And then he, like, delayed it against, Shane Berg is one of the weirdest knockouts I've ever seen.
and just looking at the betting odds right now, like, yeah, it'd be kind of safe to lay minus 166 on Sadiq Yusuf.
But I'm not here to do that, Jed.
What I'm here to do is find some value.
So unfortunately, I don't know if you've found a line.
Once a line actually drops here, I'm going to bet on either Edson Barboza inside the distance or Edson Barbosa by Keio.
Because I have lines for you.
Oh, great.
Plus 140 is nice.
but so here's the thing because actually in my breakdown i've got it written up right here
i'm on edson barbosa in this fight um for some of the reasons you alluded to look he's
getting older he has fought we talked about this the last time and basically we've talked about it
every time edson barbosa has fought the sheer resume that this man has competed against not wins
and loss is just the people he has fought i honestly believe it stacks up with anybody in the
history of this sport and for him to have fought this level of competition not as a champion usually
if you see somebody's resume like this it's because it's anderson sova who's batting down challenges
or whatever here is edson barbosa's run since 2014 because that's like a pretty clear cutoff
donald saroni evan dunham bobby green michael johnson paul feldor tony fergus anthony pedus
Gilbert Melendez, Benil Daryush, Habibner-Mirgamadov, Kevin Lee, Dan Hooker, Justin Gagee, Paul Felder,
again, Dan Ege with the Featherweight debut, gets a little bit softer in Makwan Amir-Kani,
Shane Bergo's, Giga-Chiccadze, Bryce Mitchell, Billy Q. The worst two dudes this guys fought in a decade
are Amir-Khani and Billy Q. Those are the two worst guys he's fought in 10 years.
That is unreasonable.
It is an absolutely unreasonable run.
He's 37 or almost 38.
At some point, it will fall off.
But I think Sadiq Yusuf is not the kind of guy whose style really takes advantage of Edson.
We know the way to beat Edson the books out.
You got to pressure him really consistently getting backing up, take away those weapons,
and put the hands on him.
If you can get takedowns, that helps.
Sadiq Yusuf, well, pressure.
I don't think he's going to pressure consistently enough.
going to hang around in range too much, try and kick with Edson Barbosa, he's probably
going to lose. That's my read at least, but I won't be super shocked. But like you, Mike, I wanted a
little more, you know, plus 140, plus 145. I ended up settling for the plus 145 because you're
Edson Barbosa by K0 line, TKO is plus 190. The inside the distance line is plus 165. You're not getting
a lot of extra. They are, the books believe that if Edson's win in this fight, it's going to be a
knockout. And I understand that. Five rounds, you got a lot of opportunities.
Yeah, I'll probably just take them straight.
Plus, yeah, I'm locking it in right now.
There you go.
Plus 140.
Plus 140, Edson Barboza.
Yeah, man, this is probably one of those fights where if Edson doesn't finish
Sudik Yusuf in two rounds, then I'm probably just going to hedge and live bet Sodyk,
whatever the hell it is.
Because I really feel like he's going to have to, he's going to have to get him out of there
in the first like seven minutes or he's going to lose.
He's going to lose the decision.
Yeah, I mean, the five-round fights, as that goes on, certainly going to be worse for Barbosa.
But, yeah, the books are prepared that if he's winning, it's by Keo.
And I think he's got a really good shot.
I think Sadiq is talented.
I've had him ranked at various points.
I'm not sure if I still haven't ranked right now, but it's a talented guy.
But I think Edson Barbosa is still, this feels a little bit like y'all must have forgot moment for him.
Again, we just had on with Billy Q.
I think people may be writing his obituary a touch early, though.
I do think Sidique Yusuf is a step up from Billy Q.
So it's a fun main event.
I'm actually looking forward to it.
It's just not a main event.
It's the final fight of the evening, you know.
This isn't really drawn the people in.
I mean, he's only fought at the time.
Like, this will only be, this, this will only be the second time he's fought a ranked fighter,
Sudique Yusuf.
Yeah.
Because he fought Alex Casares, who was not ranked at the time they fought, I don't believe.
Arnold Allen, he lost.
Andre Feeley wasn't ranked.
and he hasn't fought in over a year and
and his last fight was Don Cheneas on like three days notice.
And he submitted him instantly in 30 seconds.
So look, man, I go back to the Andre Feeley fight too, man.
When he fights guys with vast experience against the best of the best, he struggles.
And a lot of people still feel like Feeley won that fight as well at UFC 246.
So I think it's a spot for a dog.
I think this line could be a little bit closer.
So, yeah, I'll take the value at plus 140.
I like saying spot for a dog because I've got to be honest,
I think there are a lot of live dogs on this card.
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And let's get into not some of them immediately, at least not for me.
Your co-main event, the wonderful, your best friend, Alexander Kay Lee, he would say that this is a penultimate fight.
I don't think he'd give this co-main event status.
Maybe, maybe Jennifer Maya gets the nod.
Two ranked fighters.
I think he'd give it to him.
Is it, though, is it, this is, I wouldn't give it to this.
I wouldn't give it to this.
This is pretty, look, I mean, Jennifer Mai guess the former title challenges, so maybe that's enough juice.
but Jennifer Maya taking on Viviani Arrucho
your betting lines at the moment favor
Ms. Maya minus 155.
They come back on Arrucho at plus 130.
Maya on a two-fight winning streak.
Arrucho lost two in a row
different dynamics on where these two women are
entering this women's flyway about Mike.
Do you have any thoughts on this matchup,
any value you're seeing running out there?
Yeah, Jennifer May I should be like a minus 220 favorite in this fight, honestly.
I look, this is, you could not pick a worse matcher for Viviani Arrujo.
You just really couldn't.
There's, with some of these up-and-comers, like if you're Viviani Arrucho, you are hating the fact you're not fighting Casey O'Neill.
And I don't know if she beats Casey O'Neill or not, but she was supposed to fight Casey O'Neill at 293.
O'Neill gets hurt.
Now Casey's fighting somebody else.
And now instead, you have to fight Jennifer Maii.
inside the hallowed apex.
Yikes, man.
Jennifer Maya is,
she's not going to be a world champion.
She's not going to be a number one contender,
but she's better than a lot of these girls.
And she is the queen of giving vet lessons at 125 pounds.
It probably was Caitlin Chukagin for a hot minute.
And I kind of think Jennifer Maya is in that spot right now.
So I don't know what the line is.
Maybe you can give me some insight.
At least give me an idea of where it drops with Jennifer Maya by decision,
whatever that is going to be,
just screams at me.
I'm sure it's plus money.
I'm sure it's better than minus 155.
So whenever that line drops on draft kings,
I'm going to take it.
So that's where I'm going.
So you would be half correct, Mike,
in that I can definitely give you the line.
I can give you that line because I'm on that line.
Jennifer, Maya, by decision.
Not only am I on that line, Mike,
the robots are on that line.
It's the chat GPT bed of the week.
We tossed it to the robots for this one.
Fight odds were close, and I thought, you know what?
Let's just see what they're doing.
Unfortunately, Chad TPT lost.
For the first time and a long time, the Chad GPT better the week lost last week.
Very, very disheartening, but we persevere.
We press on.
It was Alex Murano, by the way.
It was a chat GPT better than week last week.
Still 12 and 6 plus over four units at this point.
Chat GPT is still printing money.
And I like where it's at here.
It's decided that Jennifer Maya by decision.
I don't even need to read you the breakdown.
It was just Maya beats her pillar to post.
Mostly, Arrujo has some moments with a takedown on the second round,
but not a lot going.
Maya is just going outworker and is too good a grappler to get caught in anything fishy there.
So, but where you were incorrect,
Jennifer Maya, by decision is not plus money.
Jennifer Meyer straight up is minus 150, as we said.
By decision minus 105.
I'm still on it.
It's minus 105.
You know, it's paying out close to even money.
And even though, you know, I just said not getting enough juice on Barbosa by K.O., here's the thing about this one.
Jennifer Meyer's average fight time is 14 minutes and 57 seconds.
Viviani Arrugio's average fight time is 15 minutes and 39 seconds in the UFC.
These two women fight 15 minutes is what they do.
They are going to go to the judge's scorecards.
uh,
general by decision at minus 105.
I was like,
how is that possible?
And I forgot that Viviani Iroo
fought in a main event.
She's got a couple of main events.
Um,
she got a couple?
Uh,
actually maybe she only has the one.
I know she has the one against Grasso.
Yeah,
that was the one.
Yeah,
it actually may just be that.
And then yep,
looking at it.
And then she has one third round knockout and then everything else's
score cards.
Okay.
It's just,
it's just what it is.
So,
yeah.
This fight is going over.
I would say personally, I think the over two and a half, that particular number is a veritable
lock as far as a parley piece.
I'm not using it because I have, I don't want to be doubled up on this fight and I've got
another little weird parley cooking up.
But I think we see this in lockstep.
This is General Maia's fight to lose, which brings us to a featured Banimay fight.
Jonathan Martinez versus Adrian Yanez.
Current odds have this fight as basically a pick of minus 110 on each side.
I got to admit, I was a bit surprised by those odds.
Mike, are you like me?
Were you expecting there to be a clear favorite coming into this matchup?
I kind of thought Jonathan Martinez would be favored in this one because he's on,
what, he's on a five-fight win streak right now.
Adrian Yonis just got bolted.
However, it was by Robert.
Bob Fant, who is one of the top 10 best Bannamwaits in the world right now.
In your eyes, at one point, maybe was the best Bainterman.
Could have been the best.
It could have been the best Bannibal in the whole world.
So some say.
I figured this would be really close.
I thought Martinez would be like a minus 1.30 or something like that.
But I'm not really surprised that it's this close.
People love Yanez, man.
They love him.
So I could understand.
I could see this one opening for Martinez and then just a closing for Yannis because
people just friggin' love him, man.
I'm one of those people, Mike.
I thought Yanaz was going to be the favorite.
And so I straight up just took him at this at Pickamod's here.
I think this is a great by-low spot on Adrian Yanez.
I could be absolutely incorrect.
Lord knows I've been incorrect many times before.
But I think Jonathan Martinez is a good fighter,
but he has not like overly impressed me.
Maybe I just can't sort of get the missteps out of my mind,
the Davy Grant one, et cetera.
but I'm willing to give Yanez a pass on the Rob Font fight because it's not like Rob Font
dusted him. Rob Font finished in the first round, absolutely. But that fight prior to Rob Font
hurting him in an exchange looked like I thought it would. Look like most people thought it would.
Yanez had the jab going. The boxing is so crisp, so clean. It's got such good timing,
such good accuracy. And Rob Font's face was busted up. Rob Font just happens to be tougher than a
$2 steak, never been knocked out in his career, and we saw that, and managed to land a good
sequence in sort of an ugly exchange, and then just put the hammer down, and Yanaz couldn't
get off it.
I don't think Jonathan Martinez has that particular bag in him when it comes to Yanez,
and I think this is, I think this just lines up really, really well for Yanez.
I think he is the better striker, the better boxer, and I think he is going to kind of remind people,
And I was a bit, I genuinely thought he would be favored.
I knew, I know Martinez coming on the big win streak, but to me, I didn't take a big loss from the Rob Font loss.
So just, yeah, sometimes veterans are going to do that in one of the deepest, most difficult weight classes in the world.
I think this is a great spot of Yanez, and I am on him.
So I'm basically just looking for value here.
And like this fight could go either way.
It really could.
I could see Jonathan Martinez winning a 15 minute decision is very positive.
possible. However, I'm going in a different direction. I don't know what the line is yet.
Shout out draft kings. You'll, you're just, you're meticulous and I respect that.
I like Adrian Yonaz my knockout here. Like, I think if I'm going to bet on this fight,
it's got to be a propy one. And I think I can get some value. Look, here's the thing.
Yon is by KOTKO plus 200. That's where I'm going. I'm going to lock that in a plus 200.
I don't hate that bet. Look, man, Ziviad Lavis, Lajusville.
Alejandro Perez, Vince Morales, Cubbs Swanson, God bless you, Cubby, there's going to be a damn they're good on you someday.
And Saeed Narbaga Madov.
All very fine fighters, all have finishes in their careers, but very few of them at the time that Jonathan Martinez fought them.
Did you feel like, you know what?
Jonathan Martinez could get one hit or quittered here.
Like, these dudes could just land one big shot and finish the fight.
I don't think you felt that way about Jonathan Martinez fighting.
any of these guys. The one time I really felt like it could happen, it did. Davy Grant
friggin annihilated him. And that wasn't that long ago. It was in March of 2021.
Davey Grant absolutely annihilated him. I can never get that fight out of my head with an overhand.
It was just a nasty overhand left. I think Yannis could clip him, man. Like I think if he lands a
clean shot, because he is quick as hell. And Jonathan Martinez is very textbook, man. He's very
textbook. I think if Yannis can land that fastball at any point over those 15 minutes, as long
as he doesn't go crazy. I think he learned a lot from the Rob Font loss from the interviews I've
seen. I think Yonnas can land something. I think he's going to do some damage, man. I think this kid can
hit really, really hard. And like you said, it's not like Rob Font just 101 struck him to two
in that fight, but you could certainly tell that Adrian hadn't been hit by a guy who hits as hard
is Rob.
Like, Rob hits super hard.
And he fought David Grant.
He took Davy's best shots.
But Rob just hits harder than Davey.
I think Yonis can get him, man.
I think he can get him.
And my pick is Adrian Yana's plus 200 by knockout.
I think he does.
I think he gets the finish here.
I think that's where the best value is on this fight.
I love it.
I also love that you mentioned something.
I didn't want to break out the calculator because, you know,
AK will get on you about using the MMA fighting calculator.
It's very expensive.
but the Davy Grant, you know, MMA Math does say one of these two men should win.
That man should be, Yonnes.
Also, a quick shout out because I don't think I realize this, or maybe I just forgot,
that Jonathan Martinez at one point was a flyweight.
Shouts to you, buddy, that couldn't have been healthy.
Could not have been healthy for you to be competing in flyweight.
Shout out to the silence behind the violence, Jonathan Martinez.
Bringing us to our next fight.
this fight
I have
I got so many questions
Mike I don't
I don't even know
what to do here
I'm talking of course
about the UFC middleweight
debut of Michelle Paheta
is taking on
Andre Petroski
your odds
currently for this one
where are the odds
for this one
I was going to ask you
the same thing
because I totally forgot
this fight was happening
until you just said it
from a betting perspective
so not all books
have them up
the odds
Wow, that number moved from where I got it.
Okay.
The odds are minus 170 at this point for Michelle Paheta.
Some books have them as low as minus 150.
Come back on Petroski a plus 145.
So, Mike, Michelle Paheta, you know, making his way up the well-to-weight rankings,
having an opportunity against Wonderboy Thompson.
Oops, miss weight.
Now we're at middleweight.
He's taking on Anche Petroski, who fine fighter, you know, coming on a good little wind streak right here, five in a row since joining the UFC, making a bit of noise.
It hasn't beaten anybody great, but quality wins nonetheless.
This is a big-time fight for both guys, and I got to be honest, I'm going to lead us off here because I don't know what to do here.
Like, I've been a big Pereira guy, Paheta guy, since he came into the UFC.
me and AK were on him from back in the day of doing missed fist and him being a lunatic on the regional circuit.
And even his UFC debut, his first couple of fights, he was doing all the crazy stuff.
He's obviously settled down, but he's still a super talented guy.
He was a super talented welterweight.
And I think there's a world we're coming up to middleweight.
He looks better.
He's no longer cutting that enormous amount of weight.
Cardio has been an issue for him historically, both because of the acrobatic lunatic
stuff that he does and the fact that he's just a gigantic dude who's losing a lot of weight in a
short period of time.
I think there's a world where he could look really good here.
But Petroski has never really blown me away, but he has just been rock solid, just a really
rock solid guy putting in the work, getting very workman-like wins, showing a good bit of
grappling experience and performance.
And I'm not entirely sure.
I think the smart thing, honestly, for me, would be to not bet this, just not bet this at all.
but that's not what I did.
I decided to back Paheta because he was my boy for a while.
I want to back him and his move up to middleweight.
And I think he's got the take down defense chops to make Petroski fight on the feet with him.
And if that happens, I really like his chances to win.
But it also could be, hey, he's actually not big enough for middleweight.
And Petroski's just going to sort of take him down immediately and have his way,
you know, go for that anaconda, that arm triangle, that sort of headlock series that he has.
So where are you at, Mike?
I'm on the, I'm not touching this of the 10-foot pole side.
This is dogged pass for me, man.
Like, Andre Petroski has no pressure on him at all.
Took this fight on like a week and a half notice, if that, against a guy like Michelle
Barrera.
And I kind of like this fight logistically better.
Like, I just think it's a more fun stylistic matchup.
Had we still gotten the Mark Andre Barrio fight?
I probably would have taken a dog shot on MAB, honestly.
The number one contender for the middleweightiest middleweight title.
I think Michelle Paheta can make inroads on the middleweightest middleweight title.
He's trying his ass off.
The fighter he's become lately is pretty middleweighty.
Now that he's up in the weight class, there's a lot of opportunities.
You should have jumped up like two years ago.
You'd be the guy right now.
Yeah, I'm just, I'm going to just say.
sit back and and let the intrigue play out without any pressure on it.
I think that's a smart,
smart move,
but I'm dumb.
And I took a couple,
this is not the only fight.
There's another fight coming up we'll talk about a little bit where I just blatantly
backed one of my people's.
I was like,
I was on this bandwagon before a lot of people.
I'm just going to ride it and see what happens this week.
Because why not?
I'm looking for ways to be invested in this fight card.
So this is like a good way.
That brings us to a fight we mentioned before.
A flyweight rematch, the rematch, the biggest one in the sport, the one we all needed the answers to.
We no longer have to live in a world where we don't know whether Edgar Chiris is better than Daniel Lacerdo.
Whether Daniel Lacerdo was robbed by some shoddy refereeing and he was about to author one of the greatest comebacks we've ever seen.
We're doing the rematch right here.
Edgar Chiraz, Daniel Lacerda, two.
currently the books have Edgar Chiraez
as a pretty healthy favorite minus 305
come back on Laceda at plus 245
and Mike I'm just going to take this away again
because I got two things to say
the first thing
a month ago September
however long ago that was a little bit over a month
something like that Lacerda was a plus 185 underdog
so after watching that fight
the sports books are much more confident
that Chiraz is going to win
and I agree
and not only do I agree
but Mike you know who else agrees
oh no
the eight ball Mike
the eight ball agrees
we brought the magic eight ball back
the eight ball had a tough
tough go of things last week
it went oh two and one
one no contest
as one of the eight ball picks
of the three ended up not happening
the Filippe's fight falling off
the other two
it didn't do so hot
but I asked at this time
I was like
look I mean Edgar Chau
We all know Edgar Chow is going to win this fight.
My question was, is he going to win it?
He's going to stop him again.
You know, is he going to stop him?
But this time is it going to take?
Do I really want to be laying a price like minus 160 on Edgar Chiraz inside the distance?
And I asked the eight ball.
And the eight ball said, without a doubt you do.
So our first without a doubter from the eight ball says Edgar Chira is inside the distance.
And that is what I'm on for this fight.
What's, um, what's Edgar Chir is by submission?
give me just a moment and I will that's a so that is a much better price because I I vacillated between maybe just going by the sub but uh chires by sub is plus 250 by TKO KO is plus 185 so I'm gonna play I'm gonna play the sub one I'm not I'm not gonna go crazy here but Chira's usually subs dudes like he he he should have had a submission win he already subbed Lacerda once he already subbed to once he already subbed to once
I think he does it again.
And it's just so funny, man, that the year that Edgar Chiraeis has had has been something else, man.
And with the two submissions that he had, the two submission victories that should be in the books of submission victories.
One was full of controversy because of an awful referee letting one go too long.
And the other was awful refereeing, allowing a fight to not go long enough.
So he's had a weird year.
and this is the rematch of the year.
This is the one everybody called for,
not Shevchenko Grasso 3, not this.
No, no, no, no.
This is the one coming out of Nochi UFC
that everybody needed to see again.
And gosh darn it, we're going to get it
and we're going to get a nice, healthy
Edgar Triress, submission win,
and I'm going to break the curse
of sub props not cashing on this program.
Yeah, we're historically bad at them.
Another fun fact, just to note,
about this particular fight.
The over under at one and a half rounds
and the under is minus 185.
Ooh.
They do not anticipate this going long.
Flyweight unders are,
are desperately hoping to return this week.
But we press on to the final main card fight
is a Bannamweight matchup between Cameron, Simon,
and Christian Rodriguez.
The odds makers currently of Christian Rodriguez
is a minus 162 betting.
favorite with the comeback on Simon at plus 136.
Mike, how are we feeling about this matchup of two pretty damn good prospects?
Woof, woof.
Woof.
A little, a little, oh, oh.
This should be a closer line, man.
This should be a closer lie.
Cameron Simon is good, man.
Now, does he, has he cheated a few times?
Perhaps.
Did he get penalized for some of those cheating moments?
he did
but this guy's a dog man
and he's not going to do
what Raul Roses Jr. did.
He's not going to have moments
in the first round
and then just completely gas out
and then let Christian Rodriguez
take over the fight.
I think Cameron Simon's
one of the best prospects in this division.
I think he's super talented.
He's super young.
I think he's really, really good.
And while I like Christian Rodriguez
and I think he's a fine fighter,
I think Simon is just a better athlete
and I think he's just a better overall fighter.
I think he's a more complete fighter
and as much as AK hates to
hear this. I actually think he's got more of that dog in him than Christian Rodriguez does.
That's saying that Christian doesn't have any dog in him, but I think Cameron's just a little
more of a gamer here, and he could deal with adversity a little bit better.
Christian Rodriguez coming off of a huge win. It was a huge get-up for him in his career,
stopping the hype of Raul Rocha Jr. But Cameron Simon has just kind of quietly,
just amassed a really impressive record. And he's had some fun fights, man. He's had some really
fun fights. He's been in the dirt and been able to come through. I think this line should be like,
I don't have an issue with Rodriguez being the favorite, but minus 162 just seems awful high for me.
So I think there's value on Cameron Simon. I'm taking it at plus 136. I bet Cameron Simon
at plus 145. I thought, I think this fight should be a pick him. And if not, I honestly think
Cameron Simon should maybe be the favorite. I really like him. I think that this kid has been sort of
I slept on prospect because he's still even super young.
And Cameron Simon, 8 Raul Roses Jr.
If anyone listens to anything on this network, they know my thoughts on Raul Roses Jr.
That he is far over-hyped.
I don't think Cameron Simon is hyped enough.
I think he is an extremely live dog.
I think he can win the grappling exchanges.
And he's a higher output striker.
I think, you know, some people don't like to take
this sort of thing into consideration, but I like genuinely do.
Teams coming off a big year.
Drickus Duplessi, we all know where that man's at.
And I think you need to respect and not just what Drickus is doing, but the way he's doing it,
the game plan they had for top level fighters.
That is a gym that feels a bit to me like it could be on the precipice of breaking out
in a major way, like city kickboxing did, you know, several years ago or whatever.
CIT, I think that there's something.
some of that there.
Cameron Simon,
I think he has a lot of great things going for him.
And the most important thing,
going for him, Mike,
the most important thing.
This is the kind of analysis
that people come to this show for.
We just want to be clear,
because nobody else is going to say this.
Nobody else, any of those other podcasts
or any touts online,
they're not going to tell you the things you need to know.
But I am because Mike,
can you tell me who Christian Rodriguez
lost to in his UFC career thus far?
A little man by the name of Jonathan Pierce.
Oh, yes, JSP.
That's right.
That's right.
He lost a JSP.
Can you tell me what Cameron Simon's fight nickname is?
It's MSP.
You think he's going to lose to JSP and then beat MSP?
No, get GSP in this bitch.
He's going to lose to him too.
KSP, FSP, pick a letter of the alphabet SP and he's cooked.
He got no chance.
I don't know what the odds makers are thinking with this one.
It's so clear.
It's so obvious.
And that's why you come here because I'm going to find those nuggets for you.
But the house on Cameron, Simon.
He can't lose.
He can't lose.
I might have to put an extra couple of units on that after that breakdown.
Can't lose.
What a job, man.
You should host a gambling show.
The prelims.
On to the prelims, ladies and gentlemen.
And I have a little less to say about several of these fights, but not because his first one.
Because his first one, I have a little bit of honest interest here.
And I don't have a bet down.
But I'm leaning one sort of way if I were to bet.
And I'm talking, of course, about a featherweight matchup between Darren Elkins and downtown T.J. Brown.
I don't actually...
The odds, sorry, I was trying to pull them up.
The odds are minus 205 for T.J. Brown plus 170s the comeback on Darren Elkins.
Mike, you mentioned something about this earlier and a couple of other fights.
This one, to me, I don't know that I want to bet on.
on Darren Elkins, given the fact that he's almost 40, et cetera.
This feels a bit dog or passy, though, right?
I mean, Elkins feels like he could be alive.
Dog Brown has given up a lot of takedowns in his career.
Elkins can still do that.
And much to the chagrin of Alexander Kay Lee, we know he has that dog in him.
So what are your thoughts on this matchup?
I'm kind of in the same boat.
Like, if I were to bet on it, I would have to take a shot on Darren Elkins.
but I am currently living in a world where I've never bet on Darren Oakenz.
And I feel like that's a great place to be.
Because I feel like it's just a heart attack waiting to happen every time you fights.
It's never fun.
Yeah.
So for me, this is one that I kind of looked at.
I just could Darren pull it off?
Sure.
I just kind of feel like T.J. Brown is kind of run them here.
Like it ain't going to be pretty.
But I don't want to have money on a fight like this because I just feel like I don't think
it's going to go very off of Darren Elkins.
And if he wins and paint me stupid,
but I kind of don't think he's going to win.
And I just can't put minus 205 on T.J. Brown.
I can't.
I very much agree.
Which brings us to our next fight,
a women's bantam weight matchup.
That's right.
This weight class trudges on.
We, in fact, have several.
That is multiple women's bandam weight matchups.
This is the first one we're talking about.
It's Tainaro, Lisboa, versus Ravina Oliva.
the current odds makers have Liseboa set as a hefty favorite at minus 360 to come back on Olivera plus 285.
Mike, I'm going to be super impressed if you've got action on this fight.
If so, please tell me what it is.
So I don't have individual action on this fight.
I like Tanaoara Lusboa, man.
She is just a freaking gamer.
She just fights her ass off.
And I just respect it so, so much.
anybody who lost her pro debut to Bannamate, featherweight, hybrid Norma DuBond.
I mean, that's just a great place to start.
Right there.
Prior to that, lost Muay fight to Valentina Shivchenko.
That alone should tell you that her experience matters in this fight.
She just kind of blew the doors off Jessica Rose Clark.
And I know that wind doesn't mean as much as it might have two years prior to that.
But Jessica had nothing for it.
Jessica usually could dog her way through some of these fights.
not against Tynoira Lisboa.
So this is a parlay piece for me.
It's a three-piece parlay.
And this is the first piece.
Lesboa at minus 360 as part one of a chalky three-leg parlay.
Might be four.
It might actually be a fourth leg added to this now that I just saw another line drop.
But yeah, I definitely have three.
And she's one of them.
I'm excited to see who this.
goes, I have no action and I have a couple of very specific reasons for no action on this fight.
The first being in the dark, I assume, that Lisboa is going to win this fight.
We did get to see her fight Jessica Rose Clark, but we talked about, Connor and I talked about it before that fight.
Coming into that matchup, Lezboa's, the combined record of Lisboa's opposition heading into her UFC debut was three and six.
Three and six, this is a combined record of the seven fighters before she made the UFC.
Now she is at a classy 14 and 14 with the win over JRC, but still, I have a general rule where I would not be betting on fights between fighters with less than 10 total fights apiece.
This one falls under it.
And on that same token, Olivera, nine and eight combined record of her nine opponents, seven of those opponents had no wins.
five of them
there was her
their fighting debut
I cannot feel
confident betting
this fight at all
and I decided to pass
so I like I said
based on what I know
Lisbo is better
but I got a lot of
question anything can happen
with sort of chaos like this
and speaking of chaos
Mike Heck
this man we're about to talk about
we know what he's going to do
last I checked
there weren't lines up
because this fight originally was booked against somebody different.
This was originally Terrence McKinney versus Chris Duncan.
Chris Duncan pulls out with visa issues.
Now Terrence McKinney is taking on Brendan Morote in a lightweight fight.
Have odds dropped since this?
No.
So we are recording this on Tuesday.
There's a couple.
Oh, do you see some somewhere?
A couple books have it.
Oh, I just see.
I see minus 450.
Yeah, and a minus 450.
Minus 450 for Terrence McKinney plus 300 from Marotte.
Look, I'm not going to put him in a parlay, though he's obviously going to win.
I haven't done a ton of research on Maroote, but I'm going to say the same thing that Connor and I say every time Terrence McKinney fights, and I'm going to say it forever.
Look, we know what's happening here.
Terrence McKinney, 20 professional fights.
16 of them have ended in the first round.
15 of them have ended under the 2 minute and 30 second mark in the first round.
If you're betting Terrence McKinney, just bet him in round one, get that little extra value.
This fight is not going to exceed five minutes.
I'd be quite shocked if it did.
That's my breakdown.
Mike, is this part of the Chuck Parley soup you're trying to build?
It was going to be, but you've talked to me into Terrence McKinney in round one.
Like whenever that line drops, it's probably what I'm going to go with.
This fight's...
15 of 20 fights have ended under two and a half.
minutes.
That's...
Yeah.
I like Brendan.
Nobody else is doing to like him.
I like Brendan.
I've been watching him fight for a long time.
He's young.
He's only going to get better.
He's one of the cartel guys.
He just...
He's got some decent wins.
Like, Dan Dubuque is...
I don't know if he's a New England legend,
but he's like...
It's like a Cunsony, New England guy.
Dionne Rubio is a really solid hand.
He was like coming through as an Ammy.
everyone's like, holy shit, this Dionne Rubio guy, like, watching for him. And he just knocked the shit out of that guy.
He fought Lionel Boogs in his last fight. Boogs Young and Lionel Boogs Young is, you know, tougher than a $2 state.
Dude gets in the scraps, but he's also lost way more than he's won. And Brennan-Ross as often as he's won.
And it's a tough place to be.
Treated him accordingly, if you will. So I like Brendan, good fighter.
It's just a tough one to debut against, man.
Just a hurricane like freaking Terrence McKinney.
But yeah, I'll probably, I'll go McKinney round one.
But, you know, congratulations, Brett and Barat.
You made it to the UFC.
Probably got there a little sooner than you expected.
But you're in, baby.
Let's go.
You're in.
Now you just got to keep it.
Hang on to the job.
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Next fight, the other women's band-in-wave matchup on this arena, Alexiva, taking on Melissa
Dixon. Oddsmakers have Dixon as the betting favorite at minus 148 on draft Kings and plus
124 the comeback on Alexiva. Mike, this is the fight I alluded to earlier where I was going to do
something dumb. Look, it's a match
between two women with a combined
11 fights between them.
Shouldn't bet on it. But
Mike, you'll know this.
The MMA
you know, verse out there,
they won't know this, but
we talk about
Bantamway being a bad division. And in our
rankings panel, one
of us on this program, who's not
you, may have
sent a message to everyone that it's
we should burn this division to the ground, a message
that has gathered steam over
the years. And I sent that message when, uh, I forget who it was who by default was forced out of
our women's ban and weight rankings for inactivity. And we had to find a replacement.
And to do that, that might be right. Might be correct. And I, there wasn't a replacement that was
obvious. There were people on horrible losing streaks. And so I had to go dive into finding
who is a prospect who's not awful. And I found Aries film.
and watched Melissa Dixon, who in the year of Our Lord 2022,
racked up four wins.
And that was good enough for me to rank her,
particularly because the win over Darya Zelanokova is actually not an awful win.
Darya Zelnikova incidentally was supposed to be the original scheduled opponent for Tainoa,
on this card before Ravina Oliva stepped in after Zelinakova stepped out.
So both women could be making their debuts,
instead. Here we are. Melissa Dixon, I think she was also previously scheduled somewhere else
and got bumped, but I can't recall. Yes, she was originally scheduled to fight.
Gisela Mojeda back in Ares, and then this happened. So I'm backing Melissa Dixon.
This is a dumb bet. I don't encourage anyone to follow me, but she's my girl for a minute,
so I'm rocking with her. She is tough. She's got pretty decent takedowns, particularly from the clinch.
I am saying that this against Alexiva, who just tapped Stephanie Eggers,
who decently accomplished Grappler, ADC, you know, competed in Slicy Gabby Garcia,
and Alex Eva knee bars her, but, you know, Alexiva's beaten multiple Stephanie.
She just has a knack for beating Stephanie.
Melissa is a whole different name to defeat, and I'm rocking with a girl Melissa Dixon here.
Do you have any thoughts on this fight, Mike?
If you think you're bet's dumb, I'm actually.
thinking about making an even dumber bet but i don't know what the numbers are so i ask you jed meshew
do we have an over under on this fight over is two and a half rounds over is minus 170 under plus
140 i'm going under two and a half on this fight jed on a women's ban on white fight because i think
this either alex eva is going to catch her in something weird in transition on the ground
or Melissa Dixon is just going to pound her on the hell out of it.
So I don't think this one sees the cards.
I don't think we get to round three.
I'm actually going to take the under two and a half in this fight.
I'm not taking aside.
I think whoever wins is going to win it relatively quickly,
where the judges could just sit back and watch it.
So I'm going to go under two and a half in this fight.
I think plus 140 is just the line to get me there.
I love the aggression.
I love it.
Two last fights on this card.
and we'll wrap it up pretty soon here.
Chris Gutierrez taking on Alentang Gilli.
I can't ever pronounce this man's name.
Aletang Ali.
Aletang Ali.
There we go.
Gutierrez, your betting favorite minus 325.
The comeback on Aletang Ali plus 275.
Yeah, this is a parlay piece for me.
I'm taking Chris Gutierrez.
I think this is a huge step up for Aletang.
I probably would have gimmicked Gutierrez with Yanez
if Yanez wasn't so close to like a dead pick-em
just because I think Adrian Yanez and Chris Gutierrez
are suffering the same thing.
They both took a veteran loss against a guy
who's really good specifically in the areas they are.
With Yanez, there's Rob Font, who could jab with him
and has that really, really good boxing.
With Gutierrez, it's Pedro Munoz and the leg kicks.
Chris Gutierrez, obviously, has a ton of leg kicks,
but Pedro Muno is exceptional at defending, exceptional in his own leg kicks.
Just a veteran loss.
Those types of things happen.
I think this is a great get right spot for him.
I think Alatang needs takedowns and those are going to be very difficult.
And as his leg gets chopped out more and more from him, those aren't going to come.
I like Chris Gutierrez here.
And I think this is a pretty good line.
I have a minus 250.
So pretty decent for me.
This is leg number two of the chalky chalk parley.
Chris Gutierrez.
Yeah, I think this fight kind of plays out the way you said I will.
Ali's kind of crazy.
Gutierrez isn't so much.
He just knows what he's good at and you can prepare for all you want, but it don't matter.
You're going to get kicked in the leg.
You're going to get kicked in the leg a lot.
And then eventually you're going to fall down and just going to put you out of there.
And I think that's what's going to happen here.
So you meet Chris Gutierrez, as much as it pains me to watch this fight,
knowing that we were supposed to get Chris Gutierrez versus Montel Jackson last week.
And that fight was just way more interesting to me.
way more fun, way more interesting.
Montel Jackson gets that big step up, a competition,
gets a name, a man who was in the rankings,
and then he's out.
Just the story of Montel Jackson's UFC run,
and it breaks my freaking heart.
But now Gutierrez gets to be a good value spot on this parlay.
It's going to pay out plus money when it hits.
Boom, and that brings us to our final fight of the evening.
I also forgot Chris Gutierrez was ranked in the UFC's ranking.
So you're getting a ranked guy in the almost curtain jerker.
an interesting lineup set here.
Anyway, your main card
opener, Ashley Yoder, taking
on Emily Dukati in a
straw wapout,
a women's straw wapout. The odds
makers have Dukati
as a major favorite minus 360
Yoder at plus 285.
Mike, this is feeling
chalky. Is this ingredient three
in the stew you're building here?
Yes, because if there's
if someone said
Mike here's $20, there's no betting
odds. Put this $20 on the fight
or your most confident will win on this whole card.
It's Emily to Cody.
It's Emily to Cody. Look,
I respect Ashley Oder. She gets in there
and she fights for a living and
she's won a couple,
but she loses almost all
of them and she's
somewhat competitive in some
of these. She's just
not very good. Emily to Cody
is pretty good,
not great. I think when she
came into the UFC, I think
we thought she might have been a little bit better than she actually was.
I think she learned some lessons along the way.
And I think this is just a perfect get-back opportunity for Ashley-Oder
hasn't fought in a hot minute.
I think she's six-and-six as a pro total for Ashley-Oder.
I think she's got a sub-500 record in the UFC, keeps getting new contracts.
I think Dakota just beats her.
I don't know if she finished her, but she beats her.
And honestly, I'm more confident Emily DeCode winning on Saturday than anybody
else in this card. So that is the final piece of the parlay. Decode, Gutieras, Lisboa pays out of plus
118. Mike, you said something there that I think is really important because you may not know
if Emily Decode finishes Ashley Oder, but I know that she will not. And here's how I know it, Mike,
because this is the second leg of my parlay with Chris Gutierrez. It's not Emily Decode. It is
the over two and a half in this fight, which is at minus 350.
In 13 combined UFC fights between Yoder and Dukadi,
13 of them have gone to the scorecards.
These women, they want to keep the judges in Juicy Couture.
They want the judges earning their pay.
Each time out, they are going to make it to the final cards.
Of that, I am extremely confident.
So getting plus 350 for the over two and a half.
It felt like a happy parlay piece.
for this opening bout.
And that's the end of the fight card.
We're not quite done though, people,
because the biggest event this weekend,
certainly the event that's going to draw the most eyeballs,
the most attention,
talking, of course, about misfits 10,
A.J. Misfits Prime, misfits boxing.
KSI versus Tommy Fury.
Logan Paul versus Dylan Danish.
The posters aren't going to say it,
but I'm also going to throw out
Salt Poppy versus Slim Alibizi.
And Dean the Great versus Wally's Sharks,
Not anybody talk about that one.
We've got influencer boxing, Mike.
We've got to talk about it so I can put it in the thumbnails.
We can up that engagement.
And let me tell you, the boxing odds that I found, they're not everywhere.
They're tough.
Couldn't find odds for everything either because I wanted odds on Salt Poppy.
I wanted odds on Dean the Great and I can't find them.
But KSI versus Tommy Fury, Tommy Fury minus 350 were the latest odds.
I saw KSI, the comeback getting at plus 275.
We've talked about it some this week.
in various channels.
How are we feeling about this influencer boxing super fight?
And do we think the KSI is a live dog here?
No.
Correct.
We don't.
We don't think it's a live dog.
In fact, I have placed an actual bet on this fight.
I place an actual bet on this fight.
I'm not betting Tommy Fury at those odds because why would I do that?
Because Tommy Fury is going to cook KSI.
And then he's going to put the man out of his mess.
misery. I have Tommy Fury by
K.O. at plus 120.
I love that. So I didn't
look at any prop odds. I am
betting on Tommy Fury. I'm putting him as the third leg
in my parlay with the Dukadi
Ashley Yoder over two and a half in Chris Gutierrez.
Those three legs payouts plus 131.
Here's the deal. I don't think Tommy Fury
is very good at boxing, but he's a boxer.
And that was my exact breakdown coming into the Jake Paul
matchup.
up and I got talked out of picking Tommy Fury by, I don't think you were among them,
but there was a certain contingent of the MMA fighting universe who was like, nope,
Tommy Fury is trash, hot trash.
And we're like, they were the most adamant people I've ever seen.
And I bought into their confidence because for years, I was like, I don't know, man,
like he's not good, but he's big and can sort of box.
And that's probably good enough.
and I said that for months
and then a certain man
whose name starts with a D
and ends with an Aman Martin was like,
no, no, Jake Paul's going to kill him.
Tommy Fury sucks ass.
That may be paraphrased.
And I got talked off the ledge
and I regret that.
I regret it heartily
because let me tell you,
KSI is not as good a boxer as Jake Paul.
No.
I will say KSI is a crazier boxer
than Jake Paul is.
KSI is much.
more willing to make this a more interesting fight if things start going poorly.
And I say if when, when he's just getting jabbed up and kind of bodied around the ring,
he is probably going to be willing or dumb enough, as some might say, to try and mix it up
and brawl with him, which probably gets him popped and to your point finished.
But KSI just doesn't have the tools to compete here.
and I could see this going finish.
I could see Tommy Fury just sort of, you know, having some acumen and that being enough here.
But Tommy Fury is kind of get his hand raised one way or the other.
But really the main event this weekend, at least as far as the MMA world seems to be concerned,
is the one guy who ostensibly is an MMA fighter to some degree, still in Danis.
It's fighting Logan Paul.
The odds are Logan Paul minus 580, Danis, the comeback plus 450.
Mike, perhaps the most relevant odds would be,
is Dill and it's even going to make the walk?
It's fight week.
It's fight week and theoretically we think he's still there.
Is this fight going to happen?
I have placed another bet on this fight,
and I bet that it is going to happen at plus 140.
So there you go.
So I put a unit on that because I think it's going to happen.
I would take that.
That's plus 140?
On Bet US, it's plus one.
yeah okay I'm gonna actually take that I do think this fight's gonna have as a matter of fact on that
website it's the only thing you can bet on with this fight I mean you couldn't even get actual betting
odds for the fight you can get KSI props for the Tommy Fury fight like that's where I got KSI by
Kio or Tommy Fury by Kio plus 120 but the only betting lines on that website are whether or not
the fight's gonna happen and yes is plus 140 so I took a stab at it because I think it's gonna happen
Dylan Danis is in England, it's going to happen.
It's one of those bets where if I lose, I'm going to feel like the dumbest man alive.
But plus 140 feels like that's actually really good value.
Because I do think we're going to get it.
I'll be honest, I've no idea what to expect.
We haven't seen Dylan Danes do any sort of combat sport in several years.
Logan Paul has looks like a bad boxer every time I have watched him box.
He's apparently an exceptional professional wrestler.
you could speak more to that than I can.
I've seen some for the site, but that was never my bag.
He is a very big dude and very athletic dude, and that's probably enough because Dylan
Danes says when we did see him fighting MMA, his striking was abhorrently bad, like actually
physically painful for me to watch.
But I will not be betting this one other than that.
I think that's a great line because I do think, I just don't think Dylan Dennis can back out
of this one.
that one, if he's already in England, that's just who I'm not sure he could pull it off.
I do have one other bet that I literally just placed.
Ooh, let me hear it.
It is a quarter unit play on a draw at plus 1,300.
Oh, heck yeah.
Something real dumb.
Yeah, I want like draw slash because if it's like I wish there's a line that was like
draw slash DQ slash like no contest or like.
like no result.
The stupidest answer.
Yeah, the stupidest outcome.
What are the dumb outcomes that can happen?
So either I get a hit the draw plus 1,300 or like the fight's going to end in a weird way where it's just going to be in a push anyways.
So I'm going a little small sprinkle.
Let's have some fun with this shit plus 1,300 on a draw.
I respect it.
I will also say that if odds, if I can find odds between now and then a couple of undercard
matchups that are, you know, they're fighting for some sort of misfits boxing belts of some
kind.
You know we salt poppy gang, slim poppy, he's taken on Slim Albaher.
I think people believe that New York Rick was the Salt Poppy progenitor, the man who pushed
him.
And I am absolutely dead certain I was the first man to be like, at least among our side.
I was like, this dude actually has hands because I had to cover all the stupid.
to early misfit stuff was like
this guy's actually kind of good
and so I'm going to ride with my boy
I don't think you know
losing a three round fight just by activity
not really anything else
you know it's a learning lesson
similarly
Dean the Great Wiley Charks 2
there are odds on that
the odds I sort of saw a round
that I saw I couldn't verify but I saw
people floating had Dean the grade
of like minus 185
he's actually
probably the best of the influencer boxers.
Maybe Jake Paul's better.
But, like, Dean the Great actually has real hands.
He's already beaten Wally Charx.
He's definitely going to beat this again.
I would unload a clip if I can find a betting option on Dean the Great.
Because watching this dude work, he looks like a legitimate club pro boxer.
Like a guy who does this.
Not a guy who's going to make a run, but like a guy who is a true box.
So that's where we're at.
And that's it, ladies and gentlemen.
I have one more bet.
You have another bet.
I have one more bet on this card.
One more bet.
Let's go.
Is it KSW?
Did you make a KSW bet?
No, I made another bet on this fucking misfitz.
Unfortunately, I have to bet against MMA here.
I know I have a lot of respect and a lot of admiration for Anthony Taylor.
I really do.
I think what he has done with his career after being where he was like four or five,
years ago when I had spoken to him and he was in a really dark place to where he's at now,
just kind of being a cog in this influencer boxer wheel and just doing it right.
I give him so much credit for this.
Unfortunately, he is fighting a dude that might actually be the second best influencer boxer.
King Kennyman, he fought Wenderson Nunes.
And I thought Wenderson Nunes was the dude.
He beat the breaks off Wenderson Nunes.
Like, that fight was not competitive for a second.
King Kenny is long, rangy, and the more he fights, the more he learns how to actually box.
And as much as I admire Anthony Taylor, as much as I like the man, he is, it's going to be like,
it's going to be like a puppy fighting, a kangaroo dude.
Like, it's not going to go well.
You're just got to get boxed up from a distance.
King Kenny is just got to pick this dude apart for five rounds.
it's only a five-round fight.
Give me King Kenny minus 260,
two units on King Kenny.
That's how confident I am in him.
Boom.
I would also say,
I think King Kenny looked a lot better
his last couple of times out.
He took a little while to get going.
I think he lost a phase temper
in one of his early fights.
I remember covering that,
being like,
oh, this guy isn't very good.
But he has definitely shown himself
to be better as things have developed.
So who knew that this is where our life
would be my kick this is where we'd be in life talking about you know uh influencer boxing um
and and guys like king kin kinney and salt poppy uh it's gonna be great but that's all we have also uh salt
poppy's opponent slim just beat anthony taylor so or i just lost anthony taylor so i mean who's
really slim here is it slim or is it salt poppy because that's
Slim Poppy is, we're going to see, maybe he's not as good as slim poppy, but that's it, ladies and gentlemen, just over an hour.
We got you covered for UFC Vegas 80.
We got you cover for KSI versus Tommy Fury, Misfits Prime, whatever you want to call it.
And next week, boy, next week, good things are happening, Mike Heck.
I'm very excited about next week because that is next week, right?
Do we have a week off?
No, UFC 294 next week.
Newark. Okay. We have a week off after that. Okay. I was just to say, it is next week.
Next week, we get the rematch back in Abu Dhabi, Islam Makachev, Charles Olivaara to
Polo Costa Hamza-Chamayev. They could just frankly rename this fight card,
Russia versus Brazil, because all of the fights are Russians versus Brazilians, basically.
It's going to be big time fun. Maybe not the best fight card in the world, but it's good to have a
pay-per-view back. The main event is spicy as
as Mr. Mike Heck himself.
And so, I'd like to thank
Mr. Mike Heck for showing up.
Stepping in, as always, when the call is issued,
he answers it every single time.
I appreciate you for that, buddy.
And until next week, we love y'all.
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