MMA Fighting - No Bets Barred: Can Jared Cannonier Still Make A Title Run Or Will Nassourdine Imavov End Those Dreams At UFC Louisville?

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

UFC 302 is in the books which means it's on to UFC Louisville. Headlined by a middleweight matchup between Jared Cannonier and Nassourdine Imavov, UFC Louisville features 14 competitive fights and the... No Bets Barred Boys are here to break them all down. Co-hosts Conner Burks and Jed Meshew kick things off with a recap of UFC 302 and celebrate Jed finally getting into the black for 2024 after another winning weekend before diving into this week's fights. Does Jared Cannonier still have enough left in the tank to make one more title run? Will the sad decline of Dominick Reyes continue? Will Raul Rosas Jr. keep impressing against favorable matchups? Plus, Conner and Jed discuss the heightening drama surrounding UFC 303 and whether or not Conor McGregor will actually return to the cage this month. All this and a lot more are discussed on this week's episode. Tune in for episode 90 of No Bets Barred. Follow Conner Burks: @connerburks Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:05 Jared Cannonier will take on Naserdinimov in the main event. Kentucky. Can I have to get some KFC on Saturday? How we doing, Jed? Is that going to be the fight feasts? Is it just going to be KFC? Absolutely no way. Those fight feasts are incredibly time-consuming.
Starting point is 00:02:22 there is no way I'm doing that for a KFC meal. I mean, it'd be kind of dope. Just, you know, just get the family meal. It shouldn't be time-consuming. It's KFC. Nope. I might get KFC and just take a picture with KFC, but there's no way I'm doing a full fight feast.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Fair, fair. I'm doing great, Con. You know why I'm doing great? Not because of this fight card. I was going to say, because we got 14 fights going down in Louisville, Kentucky this weekend. No, Connor, because we did it. What would do, ma'am? I am in the black for the year.
Starting point is 00:02:55 0.06 units up. What a slog. What a battle. Some said we couldn't do it. Some didn't believe. And the skin of my teeth, Dustin Porre in the main event obviously didn't, but it did come down to the main event.
Starting point is 00:03:15 In the gambling comrade, I added a, I realized after we did the show that like, oh, this fight's going long. I was just like, I'm very, like, I thought it was even going to go to a decision. And the two and a half was plus money for the over two and a half. So heading into the main event, a quick finish from Islam would have been a losing week. Still got the over two and a half.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And it was just enough to make it plus basically half a unit, which was just over my minus three quarters of a unit. I am in the black. I love it. Congratulations, my man. How were the nerves when Islam took the back with like four minutes to go in the first round? I got to say, I started to feel like I was dumb. I was like, well, I thought I saw all the angles here. And instead he's going to do what like every idiot was like, dur, Kabib tapped him.
Starting point is 00:04:08 He's going to tap him faster. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, wow. Like, not only are we not going to get the storybook ending, this is just going to be done. See you. Thanks for playing, Dustin. But yeah, I mean, it ended up being a great fight. Glad you hit down the over two and a half.
Starting point is 00:04:26 In retrospect, I'm trying to not play both sides of the coin on fights. In retrospect, instead of taking Polikasta, I should have just taken that fight goes through decision at Plus Money. That fight going long was something that I was very confident in. I mean, that would have been free money basically immediately. You would have felt so good about it. Lord, it was never even close to even potentially getting finished. Dude, that over two and a half bet?
Starting point is 00:04:54 I almost, I was just like, we're good. As soon as it starts like, nope, we're fine. Yeah. Yeah, I bet with my heart, Dustin, didn't work out. Paolo didn't work out. The two bets that I thought were going to hit did not hit in the Marono fight going, that Marono fight I had not going the distance. And like, it took maybe like two minutes for me to be like,
Starting point is 00:05:17 This is going all 15. These guys are just going to slog this one out. We'll get some moments where it looks like it might get stopped, but no, this is going to go 15, and it's just going to be real frustrating to watch. And then Caesar Almeida, yeah, Roman Coppola was just like, I'm going to just take this dude down and he can't do. We talked about it.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Nothing about it. Can't do a thing. We talked about it. And it was so sad. And I knew it was going to happen. Like, fight day, I was like, the Almeida parlay is dead. Roman Coppola was just not going to be done. and I don't feel like such an idiot,
Starting point is 00:05:49 but I'm here. And as soon as the fight started, and then he dropped him and I was like, oh, well, I'm still dumb, but at least this was different. And then nope.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Yeah, man, and it's also just like, when there's like a plus money play that everyone's on, they never win. They never win. I swear to God,
Starting point is 00:06:06 they never win, and I'm on another one this week. That like, it's just not going to win now. It's just like, if everyone's playing it, we're not as smart as we think. The underdogs that I typically hit
Starting point is 00:06:17 are ones that like no one is playing. And it's just like kind of like a random dog. Yeah, never be on the darling dog. It sayser Almeida was the darling dog of the week last week. And yeah, he, yeah, I mean, all the bets that I lost, it was just like so quickly that like I was just like, this ain't hidden. Like Caesar Almeida, as soon as he got taken down,
Starting point is 00:06:35 I was like, this ain't hidden. And then as soon as like Alex Marono took one big huff, I was just like, oh, we're cooked. And then as soon as I realized, Paulo Costa was just going to. retreat the entire fight. I was like, I'm fucked again. This is, but I did it a parlay.
Starting point is 00:06:53 My biggest bet of the night was the, was the Kevin Holland Jeltenol made a parlay, both in it in the first round. I mean, that was smooth sailing. I was nice and easy. I finished down like two units. Didn't bet a lot, not betting a lot again this week. So, you know, we lived to see another day.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I also did the other thing, which we never succeed. I hit a sub prop. Yes, yes. Kevin Holland by sub. That's huge. That is huge, man. At the big number of plus 260, but we hit it. And then as I was looking at it after, I was like, honestly, if I just not bet with my heart,
Starting point is 00:07:29 if I was a coward, I would have made more money, but it was fine because I lost Dustin Porier and I wanted to believe in Deonté Wilder in boxing. And, you know, that one hurt more than the Porre lost. Porre loss was exciting. He had, you know, he was competing in there, exceeding expectations. The wilder loss was, that one hurt me a lot. Time to retire. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah, I mean, the Port-A won, I have to say, I know I bet on Porre, but I feel like I kind of nailed that one. I said it all week on multiple outlets. I think Poré is going to have moments where Porier fans and backers can get excited, but ultimately, Islamakshed is going to win. And that's what happened. There were some moments where I was really excited. It was looking real cool.
Starting point is 00:08:15 But Islam is, he's just so damn good. He's very talented. He can strike. He can grapple. He's a beast, man. It's crazy being the best fighter in the world. Yeah. You kind of win fights a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:30 I'm ready for him to fight Armand so I can start backing him again. I was a perennial Islam backer until the Volk fight. And now the last three fights I have bet against them and it is not enjoyable. I was having that conversation with people, less from the betting standpoint, just like this is a guy who has been sneaky incredibly exciting for the last like five years all like getting a ton of finishes the one fight he doesn't have a finish in fight of the year against volk and like under normal circumstances he would be a massively popular fighter but the fact that he came in and was sort of like habib's little brother and then his first title defenses are
Starting point is 00:09:09 against the most beloved fighters in the sport in volk twice imporier he has been He took the belt. Took the belt from potentially the most popular 155 or in the game. Yeah, I mean, it's just like... He's been the villain, and he's not that. You say all that, he's still wildly popular. Like, obviously, in America, I think he has fewer fans
Starting point is 00:09:32 just because he is fighting our favorite fighters. But, like, in Russia, like, he is just an absolute mega-dega star. I mean, he's got as many followers on Instagram as, like, John Jones and Israel out of Sonia. Like, you talk about Star Power. He's right. up there with all of them. And like the backstage photo catalog that this guy is putting together with just absolute
Starting point is 00:09:52 legends of the game, we're going to look back on this dude's career and be like, God bless, this guy was something special, dude. I mean, this time next year, there is a world where he's 28 and 1 with four lightweight title defenses and a 170 belt on his mantle, a double champ. Like the resume the guy's building is supreme. So yeah, I mean, anytime we get to watch him fight, it's a treat. It is. And you might notice at this point that we're talking a lot about 302.
Starting point is 00:10:25 It's because I don't want to talk about Louisville. I got to tell you, Connor. I got very few bets down. So when I inevitably have a losing weekend to get back in the red, at least it won't be that big. So we can climb back out quickly. I do have a few bets as well. I'm excited to see who you're under. underdog is this week. I have no underdog action right now. I kind of want to get to a fifth bet.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I got four bets right now. Okay. I have two parlay pieces. If we can find a third parlay piece, I will make a second parlay. Um, yeah, I mean, what are we doing waiting around? We might as just dive in. KFC Yump Center. We'll be brief, you know, I mean, it's, uh, it's a solid. It's, there's some fights that I'm, I'm looking forward to. I think we're going to get some knockouts. This would be a good apex card. It's a, it's a bad road show card. I'm putting. I'm putting some pressure on the Kentucky crowd to show up. It also starts at 5 p.m., which is nice. I mean, Kentucky, show us what you're about, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I think we're going to get some knockouts, though. Didn't get any on 302. It was a very hard card to watch. Yeah, honestly. The actual worst of the year. That main event, like Loki saved it. Oh, yeah, for the worst. Like, of course, like, no matter what, if you say something negative about a UFC card,
Starting point is 00:11:39 like people will come for your throat and be like, what do you mean? What do you mean? That wasn't the best card we've ever watched. Like, yeah, those first 11 fights were the Almeida and the Holland was good. The, was Billy Golf on this card? I can't remember at this point. I mean, Almeida and Holland are like the only real highlights. There were some other fights.
Starting point is 00:12:01 There was one banger. Mickey Gall. The Mickey Gall fight was pretty good. Oh, Galhafas. Yeah. I actually still haven't seen that fight. I missed a couple of years. I was good.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I was doing, I was watching the box. for early prelim so I missed them. I don't know if you need to go back and watch it, but like it was pretty good. But yeah, other than that, I mean, the Coppola fight was pretty good. That fight was terrible for the last round though. Okay, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:12:28 But like, man, the first round was fun. Jake Matthews fight, last two or. Grant Dawson fight was rough. Man, but Selecki, that a big underdog play on, not a big play, but a huge underdog, I had a little half unit on it, early in the first round, I was like, oh, boy. He's looking all right.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And then nothing. All right, let's dive into this one. Main event, Jerry Cannonier, taking on Nasr D. Nassadineemov, main event of the evening right now. You can get Nassadianimov minus 122. Draft Kings got Jared Kinnear plus 102, the underdog, the killer gorilla. I am actually taking Nassar D. Nassar de Nisimov, Canaaner, 40 years old, coming off an ACL injury, year layoff.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I just think the youth advantage, 12 years younger for him and Bob, he's going to have a grappling advantage as well. He's never been knocked out. And I just think over the course of the five rounds, he's going to be able to either outpoint him or maybe even get a finish, man. But I just like the metrics lining up for him above against the 40-year-old in Canaanar. Full agreement, actually. This is one of my four bets is the main event.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And if I was only picking one bet, you know, it's not a lock by any means. But of course. The bet I feel the best about, given the odds. He's 40 years old and he's coming off in ACL. Like that's... Fighting a 28-year-old. Yeah. You don't, when you're 40, everything is worse.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And also your recovery from injury is just, it's just objectively harder to do. And like, you know, maybe at their peaks, I probably would pick cannoneer to stuff to take downs and be a more powerful striker. But Imovob's bigger, younger, faster. stronger. More athletic. He's never been knocked out. Very athletic as well. Like athletic, like if he does get grappling going, he is going to be the one in charge
Starting point is 00:14:16 of that. Like this is a really, this is like the worst possible fight for Canaanier, who I know still has aspirations of getting back to a title fight and he's coming off this long way off. And he's getting a guy who's going to be very tough and probably doesn't even get him back there. Like if Canaaner pulls this win off, he's still going to have to try and beat Sean Strickland again or something.
Starting point is 00:14:38 So tough position for Jerry Cananeer, and I think that this is the loss that puts the final nail in the coffin of his title aspirations. This is one of the parlay pieces that I'm looking for the last spot, the over one and a half. Imov eight straight, all of his UFC fights on a one and a half. Canonere six straight. And like I said, I honestly think if someone's going to get a knockout earlier,
Starting point is 00:15:00 it'll be Canineerer but Imabre never been knocked out. And Canaaner hasn't been working like that as of late. So yeah, those are the thoughts on the main event. and we roll on. Support for this show comes from the Audible Original, the downloaded two, ghosts in the machine. The Earth only has a few days left. Rosco Cudulian and the rest of the Phoenix colony
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Starting point is 00:16:37 To the co-mate, Dominic Reyes, taking on Dustin Jacoby, the return of Dominic Reyes, and he is a big underdog right now. Jacoby minus 230. Reyes plus 190? Man, I think this all just comes down to how washed do you think Dominic Reyes is. Like, he's actually going to be the younger fighter in this one at 34 years old. Jacobi 36. But, I mean, man, this is his first time back in 18 months. Been caoed in three straight losses.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Has not won in almost five years. I feel like we really avoided something with that Oldberg fight. But yeah, I mean, it's just like how washed do you think Reyes is? because Jacoby has 12 wins by knockout four in the UFC, and that's a very likely outcome. But I'm just staying away. I'm just staying away. Really just based on the fact that, like,
Starting point is 00:17:23 Dominic Reyes, like, at his, the peak of his powers, was an insanely good fighter. Many people believe that he beat John Jones. And the guys that are knocking him out, John Blahovich, no shame in that. Yerri Prakashka, no shame in that. Ryan Span, you know, not on those as levels, but still has insane power.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I just, I don't, I don't know if, like, Jacobi's just going to flatline them. Or, like, if it gets extended, like we could see Dominic Gray is having success. I'm just staying away. I was going to be a boring episode because I fully agree. Like, there was a piece of me that wanted to zig when everyone's zagging, that wanted to Costanza this and be like,
Starting point is 00:18:04 might be so crazy. It could be sane here that Dominic Reyes, taking some time off, gets his head on straight. Dustin Jacoby is not. like a high, high level fighter. Like he's, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:15 top 20-ish fringe guy. But like Reyes could come in here, maybe even shoot some takedowns, show off different parts of his athleticism. But you just, it should be throwing money down a, down a wish and a prayer. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:18:29 that's really what it is. Like, you, you're, you're hoping. Yeah. Exactly. It is,
Starting point is 00:18:34 it is wishcasting that the Dominic Reyes, who should have beaten John Jones and, like, should have had this incredible, moment to his career and was denied that and then never got anywhere close to that again can salvage his career make something of it and it's i hope that that happens for him i feel he deserves something good like that and it's it could happen but the odds aren't good enough for me to throw a bet behind a wish i might as well throw 20 bucks in a wishing well and get the same
Starting point is 00:19:06 outcome yeah i'm supporting him i hope he wins but uh yeah a lot of interesting nickname on this one. Devastator versus the Hanyac. There's some other good ones to come as well. It's a you know, when the KFC Yom Center is available you got to stack it with the best you can find. And that's what we get in the feature
Starting point is 00:19:26 bout of the evening. Pretty Ricky, Ricky Terseos taking on El Niño Problema, Raul Rosas Jr. right now Rosas minus 230. Ricky Tercios plus 190 Tertios
Starting point is 00:19:40 Not convinced he's He's like UFC level Is it that he can't stop a takedown From a strong gust of wind? Well I was going to say 45% Takedown defense But also just go back and watch that
Starting point is 00:19:55 Amin Zahavi fight If you really want to just If you're betting on Tersios this weekend It should be required viewing For you to go back and watch that 15 minute Amin's a hobby fight Because you will question Your bet
Starting point is 00:20:07 If you go back and watch Yeah, 45% take down defense, seven times against Notte Dade, six times against Brady Highstand. I think the game plan is simple for our Roses, get takedowns, and either just dominate on top or get a finish. Yeah, I mean, this is one of my other bets. It's very straightforward, very simple. He, man can't defend. He's been taken down like seven times in a UFC fight.
Starting point is 00:20:33 By Kevin Nant Didad. Yeah, that's so many times to get taken down. in one fight. And I have never been as high on Raul Roses Jr. as many have. I am, you know, patiently waiting for a really good time to fade him. I think that they've been matchmaking pretty well and that this is a very like, Raul Wester's Jr. wants to take you down anyway. This isn't like a, I wonder if Roman Koppelov will think to shoot the takedowns.
Starting point is 00:21:00 We know he's going to do it. Seems very likely he gets him and gets to have his fight. Thought about playing, you know, something. inside the distance. But because I'll be honest to you guys, this is not the most effort I've ever put into prep for a fight card. I was much more focused on 302.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I'm just, I'm taking the low-hanging fruit and I just have Rau-Rosa straight. Mine is 2-14. Taking down seven times against Kevin Navidata, who had never landed to take down in the UFC prior to that. 0-N-3, Ketan-N-Dade, by the way.
Starting point is 00:21:30 So, yeah, I am also on Rala rosa in a parlay. And I'll get to those other two legs right now. Bruno Faheda, taking on Dustin Stolfis right now. Fahedda, a sizable favorite on Drafking Sportsbook. He's sitting at minus 270, Stolstfitt plus 220 coming back. I am not on a side here. I am on the under two and a half, for as long as fight, six minutes, and eight seconds.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Stolzfis, nine of his last 11, have not gone to a decision using that as the next leg of the Raoul Roses Sparla. Ooh, I kind of like that as a parlet leg Because yeah, Bruno Verhaed is not He's not there for a long time He's also the minus 280 favorite I'm a big favorite Like his most likely outcome of victory Is knocking Dustin Sulfentz out
Starting point is 00:22:23 I do not currently have any action But I may I may while we're doing this Put together a parlay Because I do really like the under two and a half On that leg Like I think that that's a very good parley leg. So I might see what I can build as we go on here. But yeah, no, no action for me on this one.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Think forever I was going to win. But one of the things about this fight card, too, this fight maybe not, but as I'm kind of looking ahead at what we're about talking, not a lot of names jump out of you. Like, this is not one that your friends are going to be asking you about the outcomes. A lot of very competitive matchups, though. Like, a lot of very evenly line fights. Like, I get what the matchmakers are doing, even if they're not selling a lot of tickets with, you know, Dustin Stolfeits is not getting people in the door. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Let's go to the next one. Julian Marquez, the Cuban Missile Crisis is back, baby, taking on Zach Reese. Another good nickname here, Cuban Missile Crisis, not bad. There's a very good nickname. Savage is whatever. Yeah, it is very is whatever. Again, I do not have a side on this one, but I am taking the under two and a half. That's the third leg of this barlet.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Julian Marquez, nine of his last ten of not gone through a decision. Reese, never been out of the first round in his professional career. Interesting amateur career for the savage. Fought Kevin Holland back in 2012. Said, I'm done with this sport. Took five years off and then came back, and now here he is. Take it on. See him see.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Found his way to the UFC. on the main card can work his way to a fight with i mean that's really speaks about this he's on the main card coming off a lost cody brundage uh and there's the thing i don't have a bet here i really looked at julian marquez just because i don't think a ton about zach ruse but morquez has been a guy who has has hurt me a few times believing in him and you know two fight losing streak little mercurio i'm trying to be a little more more cautious since I finally got into the black. So nothing here.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And I don't want to add this to any parlay I build. So I'll pass. All right. We keep it rolling to Puna Soriano against Miguel Baezza. Right now, Miguel Baezza is your favorite at minus 192. Soriano coming back at plus 160. This should be a fun fight, man. I mean, both guys have power.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Should be interesting. But there's no way I'm betting on this. Puna has lost four of his last five. Baezza has lost three. straight. I just don't really want to put my money in guys. I have no idea where they're at in terms of their career. Yeah, man, this fight
Starting point is 00:25:07 is going to be very fun when I saw it on the car. It's like, ooh, both of those two dudes are usually in pretty good fights. And then I forgot that Miguel Baezza lost Andre Fiajo who that's a tough person to lose to in the old game. And then
Starting point is 00:25:23 Puna lost the Stolfo's in Kappalov and it's just, you know, not beating Lungam Bula is not great. I'm totally with you. They've been a lot of losing lately and not a lot of impressive performances, even if, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:39 both of them have shown some flashes. So I think the wisest answer is just to pass on this one. Yes. And that's the main card. That's the main card. I mean, we're whizzing through this bad boy. Let's go to the prelims.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Theago Moises is taking on Ludovic Klein. Right now you can get at Diago Moises at plus 104. Klein minus 125. This is the bet. This is the dog that I'm on that I see way too many people on that. It's now making me nervous that they're on them. I love this for you.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yeah, so, like, I think he can be competitive on the feet. And I think once he gets to takedowns, he'll be able to have massive moments from there. And I honestly, I do believe that, like, he has fought the better competition. I mean, if you look at his losses, Benoit San Antonio, is Lamakashev, Damirez, Magula, Benil Daryush. The one kind of outlier is Joel Alvarez, but Joel Alvarez. was double his size. Joel, is a big lightweight.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah, he's a big dude. Yeah, man, I think he can hang on the feet. And when he does get takedowns, I think he's going to have the much better moments in this one. So Tiago Moisesis, as a dog. I love that dog bet for you because I looked long and hard at it. And then I ultimately just decided to stay away for a lot of the same reasons. I do think this fight will be competitive.
Starting point is 00:26:59 and that the odds, he's not like a big dog. Certainly, I don't know what you got him at, but I mean, the line is close to a pickum at this point in several books. So I have two plus 115, so not too bad. Yeah, I have stayed off it, but I just know I'm picking him to win this fight, but it's really, really close. So I've stuck off it. Love the bet for you.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Let's hope it cash is. Let's be knock on. Yeah, I mean, no more, no more. No more curse of the darling dogs, you know. No more curse of the darling dog. All right. Let's roll on to Charles Radke versus Carlos Prates.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Chuckie Buffalo in the house. He is back well-rounded. Coming off a underdog win against Urbina and he is the underdog once again. Plus 195, Prates minus 238. Yeah. Like, I feel like this will probably be a pretty close fight,
Starting point is 00:27:56 competitive, but Prates can turn your lights off, man. long, good striking, technical, the younger fighter here. So I'm not going to be playing Chuck as an underdog, but I'm just staying away. I actually am on prates just because he is long, good dude, good striker, more, I'm certainly the more dangerous guy on the feet here. And I know Charles Radke has been cashing and cashing, I think he's a dog in both UFC fights. Maybe he was a favorite over Mike Mitha. I don't remember, honestly.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Was he? Okay. But it just doesn't, has never really been sold on him. And I like prates coming off contender series. Wasn't like a top prospect there, but still a guy with some flashes. And I think given his size advantage here should get the job done. So I've got to bet on him. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Next up. Bracketon is taking on Jesse Butler. Massive biggest favorite one on the card. Shout out. Brackettona minus 600 to Jesse Butler's plus 440. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I mean, you know, the two-time, the two-time tough champ, Bracqueton? Yeah. The ultimate. The ultimate, that's right. Never been finished.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Don't think he's getting sub by Jesse Butler. I think he rolls. Not playing him. I so strongly considered betting Jesse Butler just because Brad Catona is extremely good at losing fights in the UFC. He's very good at
Starting point is 00:29:31 winning the ultimate fighter, but when he gets in, then he starts losing. And I was just like, particularly because, you know, last time it happened, it happened kind of the same way, gets in, does he get his first win and then loses a bunch, granted good competition.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Then he comes in off that loss to get at Onfield, but I can't do it because he should beat Jesse. But like, he should win this fight. But for the lulls, I almost bet the underdog just is the biggest underdog on the card. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Might not be a bad idea for old U.S. Louisville. Let's roll on Andrea Lee, taking on Montana de la Rosa. Right now, your favorite Andrea, KGB Lee minus 148, Montana de la Rosa plus 124. I'm staying away,
Starting point is 00:30:17 but I like this as a second parlay piece that over one and a half in this one, minus 600, over one and a half of the main event, minus 500. I just need one more parley piece. I don't know, maybe I'd chalk it up and just throw Kettona in there and just hope for the best. So I was, when I started, you know, I took the Fahedah Stolfo's under two and a half from you. And I started looking, I don't have any bets, but you know I love my overs and flyweight fights.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And particularly with these two women, they are really doing great work in the over community. So I think I will add this as leg two to the over under parley I'm building here. and I'll see where I can find a third leg to get something a little bit better. All right, so we're both on the hunt for a third leg. We both need a third leg. Let's see if we can find one. We still have infinite fights left on this card.
Starting point is 00:31:11 We have some time. Oh, really? Yeah, we got three more to go. Next up, Daniel Marcos, John Castaneda. I mean, this thing has a potential would be a banger, dude. I mean, Castaneda is well-rounded. He's aggressive.
Starting point is 00:31:23 He's a dog. And Marcos, like, yes, he's undefeated. He did. He's a little bit green, but he's had glimpses of being a good fighter. It's a coin flip fight. I'm just going to stay away. But, like, I think this fight could turn out to be really good. This fight is definitely going to be fun. We were just before this recorded a rankings podcast with the wonderful A.K. Lee and some other people in the MMA fighting great website staff. And beforehand, we were kind of talking, looking at this card ahead.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And everybody pretty much universally agreed that the sleeper card, quote, unquote, or the sleeper fight of the card was Marco's Castaneda. It won't even be a sleeper because everyone will just agree that, but by the time this fight rolls around. But yeah, I mean, Marcos is always fun to watch. I think he's going to get his hand raised. I don't have a bet, and I'm comfortable just keeping it that way. When I got a great deal on a great gift at winners, I started wondering, could I get fabulous gifts for everyone on my list? Like this designer fragrance for my daughter. It's just $39.99. How could resist. This luxurious
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Starting point is 00:33:02 I did mistakenly forget. Now we have three fights left to talk about. Eduardo, Mora, taking on Denise Gomes. Right now you can get more of minus 162, Gomes plus 136. And I am on. Denise Gomes, going back to the well of Dog, Denise, cashed it against Yasmeen Haragi at like plus 400.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Yeah, pretty much a striker versus grappler here. I know that Hill got the grappling going against Gomes, but I mean, I have no idea if Morris is going to be able to do that. If she's on Hill's level and if she's going to be able to do it for 15 minutes, we haven't really ever seen her extended. Don't know if she's going to make weight. And Gomes can absolutely crack for a 115er. She's only 24.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I think she's continuing to get better. And I'm just going to trust that she can deal with the grappling and either get a finish or, extend this fight and outpoint mora i think she's a live dog here so denisi goms that's a dog that i don't see many people on we stand opposed because i'm on edward mora all right just all the stuff you said i think is going to happen um she's a much bigger fighter than denisi goams i was impressed with her on contender series she would have been a fighter that i would have put in the higher prospect ranking but for the fact that she was 29 years old and that's a little old to be like
Starting point is 00:34:22 calling you a prospect at that point. Like you're a grown-ass person when you're 29. But, I mean, a very, very skilled grappler, pretty decent wrestler, you know, two fights under the UFC banner and has a 100% take down success rate. Short statistics. Not a big sample size there,
Starting point is 00:34:41 but she's pretty good at getting fights to the ground. She's very good at working on top. And we have seen Denise Gomes kind of lose in exactly that way. So I'm backing my other contingency. series person here. Very curious about the way ends. 119.5 last time out. I mean, that's just great for me because the odds don't change if she blows weight and
Starting point is 00:35:02 the fight happens. Take those edges. I was going to say and the fight happens. Andre Lima getting cheating his ass off last week in the cage and outside the cage, but it's still cashed my bet. We could get the fight canceled, though. There's only so many times you can. I mean, yeah, but then that's a wash for me either.
Starting point is 00:35:21 or so. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying, I'm very curious as to, yeah, what you're going to, you feel like you miss weight by five pounds. Then you're probably like, all right, time to go to fly weight. Five pounds is not a small miss. But we'll see. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I feel like if you miss weight here, then it's time. If she misses weight here, they are probably going to demand she not compete at 115 anymore. Yeah, I feel like that's where you force her. All right. The fight that I forgot about, Cody Stamen, taking it on Taylor. Lappellus, another Frenchman. You could throw together a little Frenchman parlay on this one. Taylor Lappellus, a sizable favorite, minus 270 with Stamman coming back at plus 220.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I've got no action, but maybe Lapolis, maybe the over one and a half, that third leg I'm looking for? Kind of looking that way, and I don't hate it, honestly. I mean, I know that Cody Stamen at one point was like a top 25. guy like a fringe maybe he can make a run it contender i think those days are past certainly getting a little older um but lap and you know lapless lose nothing wrong with losing to a basharat but i don't know i don't know if i feel confident in that i think i'm staying away is this the third leg i can't speak for you but i think i'm going to stay away as third leg here yeah i don't know I need a
Starting point is 00:36:50 third leg How often do these guys go under the one and a half? Taylor Lappalus He did it just a few fights ago But before that It's It's been a while
Starting point is 00:37:04 He doesn't do it often Yeah 10 of his last 12 Over the one and a half Cody Stamen A couple first round finishes in there Couple first round finishes in there Other than that man Besides those two
Starting point is 00:37:19 Man You're trying to talk yourself into it and can't quite get there. I'm doing the math here. I mean, 22 of their last 26 fights have gone over the one and a half. I feel like that might be the third leg for me. Either way, let's- Don't commit to it now because I... You still have one more, then you got action on?
Starting point is 00:37:44 No, I don't have action on it, but I've tempted to have action on it. Yeah. Pugetamor's bad. I was, all right. Let's get into this. Boucher Tomar is making her debut. The Cyclone from India, 8 and 4, been finished in all four of her losses. Most of her wins come over.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Just some cans. 0-0-0-0-0-0-2-1, 6-8. Yeah, she's not great. And I didn't, I'm not going to lie, I didn't just sit there and bank tape. But I watched a couple of these fights. Yeah. To be clear, the six and eight women she beat B-Win, she also lost two in a Muay bout and won, because she just, she just was the punching bag of one championship.
Starting point is 00:38:35 If you watched one championship cards in the last couple of years, you won't remember her. She was the Indian woman getting thumbed up on those periodically. Yeah. So I don't think it's like, I don't think it's a terrible idea. Like, I mean, do we play Ryan, Amanda, just straight? That's kind of where I'm headed, because, you know, she lost in her UFC debut, lost in E.C. Gomez. Also, has beat a lot of real bad people, though. And so that's where it gets thing.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Like, she has more beating bad people, but it's not like her wins are jumping out of the cage either at you. So I just don't know. It's tough. What I might do is instead of betting the over one and a half in Lee De La Rosa, I might just make that the over two and a half and just have a two-leg parlay. And it won't pay out huge. It'll be like a minus 165 or something like that. Which would be fine. I might just go with the lapolis over one and a half.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I just, I cannot bet on this women's fight is so low level. It's, I truly don't understand why it's happening. There are 14 fights on this card. You do not need to keep either of these. I don't understand my Puget Tomar is in the UFC. Well, because she understands how to manage a career. And so after just getting walloped all around one championship, she went to the world are now Matrix Fight Night.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I mean, everybody knows Matrix Fight Night. It's one of the biggest promotions in the world. And picked up four wins against mostly terrible opposition. And four wins in a row. get you into the big show. Yeah. I honestly think, and I'm not saying this because we are like,
Starting point is 00:40:30 I am a good fighter. I think that I could manage a way to get me into the UFC just by like beating some real nonsense humans in random shows. I would fucking love to see this attempt happen. Like you just got to have, you got to be a connection.
Starting point is 00:40:50 manager who's willing to be like, hey, I got a guy who's eight no ready to step in on a moment's notice for any fight. It doesn't matter of all those wins are over total bombs, the Jelluses of the world. Like you could get there because look at what Pooge has done. How old are you right now? What am I? 35, 35. 35 year old prospect coming in eight and nine. Prospect. Started his career at 35. 35. Maybe that'll be our 2025 mission is just really cultivating. So then you guys can all bet against me and make a killing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Bet the house. Then we finally take a sub prop and you get subbed. And then, of course, you end up getting knocked out instead. Yeah, that's either way I'm losing if it happens. Yeah, what a dream. Savannah Marshall making her MMA debut over a PFL Europe 2 minus 700 you got any action
Starting point is 00:41:48 I did look at the PFO Europe and I was like oh my God what is what are what's it happening over there all of these lines almost all of them are monstrously big monsters like they're really they've gone into
Starting point is 00:42:06 I'm not going to lie I might be working it so I might have to If I'm not working, I'm not watching. PFO Europe is really doing the Bellator maneuver. There are one, two, three, three, four fights with a favorite of smaller than minus 300. And there is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, fifteen fights on the card. Eleven of these fights have bigger than minus 300 favorites on them. Minus 650, minus 400, minus 400, minus 300, minus 300, minus 300, three, seventy,
Starting point is 00:42:43 400. I mean, it is just ridiculous. 800, 500, 300, 300, 500, 550. Yeah. All right. This might be it. This might be it. Shortest episode. I think we're already past our shortest episode at this point.
Starting point is 00:42:58 But we gave it a good run. You know, and next week you are out. What is our next week? What's the card next week? The worst apex card I've ever seen. I mean, four. the sake of the people, I will attempt to find a co-host. This is not what I would call
Starting point is 00:43:21 just ballpark. I don't even look at the card. I just speak from the soul. How many fighters on this card do you think have Wikipedia pages? How many fights are there? Five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen fights. I'm going to go, so it's 26, five, six, five. I'm going to go nine.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Good guess. Ten. Ten have Wikipedia. Also, that's including Jekka Sarri. Sargi. Oh, Jekka Sergi. Sergi, the road to UFC person. Wilson.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Who very, like, super should not have a Wikipedia page. But, you know, anyone can make them. Yeah, Winston Wilson is probably getting sacrificed again. I mean, the Tagiru and Bekhov Joshua Van fights pretty good. Icrom Alaskara fighting as well is like cool, but he's like a minus 1,000 favorite against him. It's fun to have him fight because it's been a minute, but yes, it's demolition.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I like Carly Judas, like as a prospect. Oh, against Gabriella Fernandez, who I bet against Jasmine Jazzdevicious, and she got 30-26th. Yeah, you should not bet against her. Carly Judas. Jimmy Flick, our guy, shout out. Shout out Jimmy against Nate Benes.
Starting point is 00:44:49 You know, like, and these are just one of those things where it's just a really bad card, but if you're deep into the game, there are some moments. I'm excited about Tituotara getting a shot at like a top dude. I like the Tatsuro Tira fight. It's not the worst Apex card. I overrated that. I actually think it still might be. It's really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:45:08 It's not good. The Laron Murphy, Edson Barbosa card was pretty stinky, too. That's true. But fortunately, Connor, it doesn't matter because we've got UC303. Or do we? I'm getting worried, man. The silence from the UFC is seriously starting to concern me. It's super weird because, like, there aren't a lot of reasons for you to just be quiet about it that make me think this is going to be resolved.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Because if it was like, oh, yeah, here's an issue, but it's all fine. You just come out and say, here's an issue. Okay, let's be clear. There is an issue. There is no doubt that there is an issue. Here is the thing, though. It's either the silence is either them waiting to try and figure out if it's salvageable and they can still have Connor McGregor on the card or they are scrambling like madmen to try and find a replacement.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I believe it's the latter because that makes more sense to me. It could be the former. It could be. The shitty part is. is like there is no saving a Connor McGregor card that loses
Starting point is 00:46:19 there's no saving this card we were talking about on the ranking show go check that out on the pod network they have there are no other options for this like
Starting point is 00:46:29 if if something is wrong and this can't go on the way the schedule has broken because it's not like you just elevate the co-main event of this
Starting point is 00:46:37 and okay it's not great but it's still like there the co-main event is Carlos Oldberg versus freaking dude Jamal Hill. That cannot be a main event.
Starting point is 00:46:46 You cannot let Jamal Hill fall. You cannot let Jamal Hill just trip, stumble and fall into the UFC 300 main event and the international fight week main event in the same year. Yeah. And with no, nothing on the line in this one. So the only have seen. Oh, yeah, that's not even for a title. It's not for anything.
Starting point is 00:47:05 It's not for a title. So there's no, and there are no, like we were trying to figure out and there are so few realistic options of people who aren't already booked and mostly just like stars who can and would accept a fight on three weeks. Like it's so...
Starting point is 00:47:21 Would Oliver do it? Would Charles Oliver do it? But who would he go against? And for what stakes? Winner gets Connor McGregor. It's so hard. The all I like the rumor is out there. I don't know if anyone's reported, but the rumor is certainly out there that
Starting point is 00:47:37 Max Holloway is kind of for the BMF belt. versus Michael Chandler is being floated. Max? You put Ilya and Max at risk. No, yeah, you for sure. Like, Ilya Max probably doesn't happen. I actually think that that's not all the way bad
Starting point is 00:47:53 because you can just pivot to Ilya versus Volk. The issue is Max, I think that if we don't get Connor, I still am holding my hopes out that Connor's going to happen. But if we don't, I think that is the only answer that works. And to do that, they are going to have to pay. Max a lot of money to say, hey, we know you've got this featherweight title and like shot and this will jeopardize it for sure, even though I think he would beat Michael Chandler. Like still, I think they are going to have to say here is an extra zero behind the paycheck,
Starting point is 00:48:28 but it's the only answer. Like there's no other choice for them. I do not envy the UFC or the matchmakers or anyone right now. Yeah, I am Over the last 48 hours I have gone from Oh, that's not a big deal to Oh, this is sketchy too
Starting point is 00:48:47 Now I'm like, I don't know if this is going to happen I when the fight was finally officially announced You know, people were understandably like I'm concerned, I don't know Like it's been a long time We're finally getting it. It's pump faked
Starting point is 00:49:00 And I was so adamantly like, nope, Connor signs on a dot line, he's going to show up Michael Chandler would show up as long as all of his body parts are attached to him he's not going to turn like not won't show up and connor is never not and then this happened and i'm like dude the silence is really the part that makes me think like they're trying to find an answer because they don't want to just present a problem they want to present a problem with a solution because they just come out and say fights canceled we're working on something then it's really bad look so and the silence to me also just like a thousand percent
Starting point is 00:49:35 confirms and obviously Chandler tweeting through it and everything that this is an issue with Connor McGregor. Correct. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it has to be serious. So it is tough. So hopefully, knock on wood, that's not what happens. But I'm already
Starting point is 00:49:52 getting text from people outside of the MMA bubble being like, yo, what's going on? I'm like, honestly, it's one of the very few times I can't tell y'all something that I know. Like, no one knows. So wild times. That's that.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Hopefully we do a UFC 300 pod. But I will be gone next week. Big things happening moving out of my apartment. And then U.S.C. Saudi Arabia. Let's go. Whitaker, Shemayev. Great card. That's a very good card.
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