MMA Fighting - No Bets Barred: Can Kamaru Usman Reclaim Title At UFC 286, Plus The Man Who Turned $1 Into $400,000

Episode Date: March 15, 2023

After knocking out Kamaru Usman in one of the greatest comebacks in MMA history last year, welterweight champion Leon Edwards will put his newly won title on the line in a trilogy bout with Usman this... Saturday at UFC 286, and so the No Bets Barred boys are back, and they've got a couple special guests in store. To kick things off this week, co-hosts Conner Burks and Jed Meshew are joined by Andrew Collins, the man who turned $1 into $400,000 at UFC 285 with a five-fight exacto-parlay, to talk about what some are calling the greatest bet in MMA history. Then the boys are joined by MMA On Point's Alex Ritchings, who is on the ground in London for this week's events, to talk about all things UFC 286. Topics this week include differing opinions on whether Leon Edwards can retain his title, fervent debate on Justin Gaethje's chances to rebound against Rafael Fiziev, unanimous agreement in Gunnar Nelson's prospects against Bryan Barberena, and of course, some more flyweight under discourse. Tune in for Episode 38 of No Bets Barred. Follow Conner Burks: @connerburks Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow Alex Ritchings: @Bayliun_Plays Follow Andrew Collins: @ACTHEHULK Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:58 You gift the good stuff. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. What is going on, y'all? We are back. It is another edition of No Betts Bard. This time for UFC 286. We're heading back to London in the O2 Arena. Leon Edwards v. Camaro Usman 3 for the welterweight title.
Starting point is 00:01:35 A lot to get into there. Fantastic car. Before we get into any of that, before we break down last week, before we jump to this week, we had to bring on a special guest. I guess this will be the first interview in No Betts Barred History, Jed. It's our man Andrew Collins. You may have seen him on Twitter, A.C. the Hulk. He is the man that hit, I guess some are considering it the lotto ticket.
Starting point is 00:01:59 It's the greatest MMA bet I've ever seen. I actually, I'll go as far to say, yes, it is the greatest bet I've ever seen. Just to get you up to date, if you don't know exactly what we're talking about, Andrew hit a $1.1 parlay and turned it into $399,472.71. And that's not the only parlay. That's not the only parlay he hit on the night. He also hit another parlay that turned $1 into $72,000. Let's bring him in. Andrew, first of all, congratulations on the bet. I mean, how has it been? And this was what, UFC 285. So in the last two weeks, last week and a half since, it happened? I mean, how's life been for you? Hey guys. Appreciate being on. It's, it's been surreal, man. It's just kind of people hitting me up from left and right, people at work kind of catching wind of it and texting and calling nonstop. And it kind of came out a great time. I got six kids and kind of been in the process of looking for a house. And so it's definitely
Starting point is 00:03:01 going to help out. I would hope so. I mean, you could get yourself a fairly decent house for one dollar it would turn into. All right. So let's break it down a little bit. So the bet itself was six legs plus 39,947,171, which just saying that sounds fake. Like, I mean, that just sounds like fake odds. You went Driecus Duplessi to win by KO round two. Cody Garbrand to win by decision.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Bo Nicol to win by submission in round one. Shavcott to win by submission in round one. to win by submission in round three, Alexa Grasso to win by submission in round four, and John Jones to win by submission. So let's just break it down. First and foremost, what was your ideology? What was your thinking when you made this bet?
Starting point is 00:03:52 Like, is this something you do often? Do you do it on a weekly basis? Or this was like the universe was just telling you to do this? I was pretty, ironically enough, I was heavy on the Grasso bet probably more than any of the bets. I thought I would have got burned on like the bone nickel, maybe like a club and sub. But I kind of do it every week, you know, a couple dollar bets here and there. And I've come close, but never like this crazy odds.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And the most I think I've hit was like four out of five with like the props. But yeah, in the Dupless C fight, you know, I was watching it. And then I thought like it was already going to be dead. And then I saw the towel come in. And I was like, you know, gone crazy. Then I think the bow nickel was next. That, you know, seemed fairly, like I thought, I felt pretty good about that one. Next was Garbrand by decision.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Oh, the Garbrand, yeah. Next was Garbram by decision, which, I mean, like, I guess it got kind of sketchy at the end, but, like, that was a pretty low-volume fight. Yeah, he started doing his little, like, hopping around, and I was like, oh, this dude's going to get clipped. I was like, just come on. Then I was watching the clock, and I'm like, all right, we're good, we're good. then uh okay so yeah so then we go to shavkot and like i mean jeff nil is just showing the dog in him
Starting point is 00:05:11 bro and like i'm pretty sure that one happened in the last minute of the fight yeah i was looking at my wife and i kept telling her that he always kind of goes for a submission and she's like i don't know he seems like he just wants to knock this guy out and i'm like i don't know have faith and then he finally got it and you know as he's like doing it i'm like oh please get it please get it then we We hit finally. All right, bro. So how are you feeling at that point? That's what I got to know.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Your four legs in. You've got Grasso by Sub round four and John Jones by sub left. Yeah, I was feeling great. And for like a week and a half, I was telling my wife like Grasso sub, round four, like lock it in. And, you know, I had hit Grasso on a, I think it was a round two subverse, uh, Joanne Wood. And I, that's one of the first time I got featured on the show. and I just I don't know someone about Grosso I just it's just like it comes to me and it uh
Starting point is 00:06:07 I just like that one I knew was for sure was going to happen so that I mean that's incredible I mean so that finished off the the Grasso by sub finished off the $1 to win $72,000 parlay and then the last one had John Jones so when Grasso gets the sub you said you were watching with your wife like obviously she knows how big the ramifications are so when Grosso wins by sub and you lock in the $1 $72,631. Like, what is the reaction like? Yeah, so I saw
Starting point is 00:06:38 Shavshanko do like the spinning whatever it was. And then as Gras was choking, I'm like in there choking like my pillow too and I'm like, get this freaking thing. My wife is looking at me like a lunatic and then we see like Shafshanko do like an angry tap
Starting point is 00:06:54 and then I look at her. I'm like, I can't believe I just hit for 72,000. And then she's like, don't you have one more right and i'm like like i totally forgot about the john jones dude i love that too not the holy shit we just made 72 grand there's still we still can make more there's still more opportunity i was i was i was i was good with just the 72 000 of course of course this is like a once in a lifetime head and i'm good like and then uh what is what is the what are the emotions like between so from the time grasso like i'm sure there's there's there's celebration
Starting point is 00:07:31 for five, ten minutes of going crazy. But then, like, you have to settle in and be like, if John Jones gets a submission, like, we turn $1 into $400,000. Like, what is the emotions like leading into the John Jones fight? Like, are you, like, ringing your hands? You're like, oh, my God, like, I can't believe, like, this could actually become a reality here?
Starting point is 00:07:49 Yeah, I'm not a religious person, but I definitely, like, said a prayer. And, like, I know she was saying a prayer. You got to. We know, we were just kind of, I was still, like, trembling after hitting the 72. 2000 and then, you know, watching John Jones walk out and then the whole incident with the tape. I just, I saw the tape and I'm like, this guy's going to wrestle. This guy's going to wrestle.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And, you know, I looked at her and she kind of looked at me and we were just like, just praying. And he went in for the takedown and then, you know, crazy. I mean, you see him, you see him lock it up and then like, you know, the commentators are like, oh, it's tight, it's tight. And then like he lets go of it. Like, it's it like, oh, my God. he gets it again and then the tap like you have to walk us through the moment when when cyrogon taps yeah so so he had him pressed up against the cage and then uh i felt like for sure he was going to get it and then it looked like he kind of like let go a little bit and then he readjusted and then i told him i'm like holy shit we're about to hit this friggin bet and she's like you know she's kind of got new into
Starting point is 00:08:54 like m ms so i'm kind of explaining everything i'm like he's gonna get this he's gonna get this and then it's like he's squeezing and I'm like like once gone tapped I looked at her and I was like I was honestly speechless for the first time in my life I genuinely can't even imagine
Starting point is 00:09:12 like like did you have to go back and look at the slips like where you're like let me make sure I put in everything right like let me make sure everything was good yeah so after the Grosso fight I had tweeted to you the slip the first one
Starting point is 00:09:25 and then I was looking at the the other one with the with Jones on it and I must have looked at it a hundred times like and I was waiting for it to say like you know congrats like and then it took a while for it before it actually showed it as a winner
Starting point is 00:09:40 and then I was like it took me to a whole other level like of enjoyment I would be the stressful point right there of the I know I've won but I need this I need them to confirm it I need to see to see the green hit the bank account to see
Starting point is 00:09:58 the role. I need it all so something crucial isn't taken from me. I can't even imagine those feelings. Yeah, I mean, so you must have seen what? In the corner of the Draft King's account, it said like what, like 40, like 472K or something? Yeah, so initially it said, yeah, like four something, for something, and then it changed to where it took out something like 120,000 in taxes. Okay, so they hit you with the taxes like just automatically. It wasn't like they contacted you and they were like, all right, this is what's going to happen here. It was just all automatic. Yeah, it was pretty much all automatic. I got like an email saying that I got to fill out a tax form, but then it just kind of came out automatically. I mean, that's, that is, that's incredible. And so you sent me these slips and
Starting point is 00:10:45 I was doing a watch party for MMA fighting and like I people got to see my live reaction to it. Like my jaw hit the floor when I read them and like I retweeted them. And like, I retweeted them. And like how many people came at you and you were like, these are fake? These are fake. Like I saw, I saw a dozens of them. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:01 it was like so many people like, this is fake or Photoshop and just, it was crazy. And I didn't know how to like prove it. And then I, you know, I think I posted a picture of like the balance. And then people are like,
Starting point is 00:11:16 oh, it's a different total. So it's got to be fake. And then I had to tell them like the taxes were taken out. Yeah. So. I mean, No, it's simply, it's one of the greatest bets I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:11:29 You mentioned you've got six kids. Any, like, did you do any, like, splurge? Like, did you, like, go to a nice restaurant? Did you maybe, like, are you planning to take a trip? You're taking the kids to Disney World? Yeah, probably do a trip, but nothing yet, honestly. That's smart, honestly. The longer you can chill with the money and be like, and not do reckless stuff with it, the better.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Definitely, yeah. Or, or you now have 400,000 different. one dollar bets that you can just keep reloading keep fired from the hip maybe that that was like the most annoying thing it was uh people are like oh he probably puts like millions of these things and you know i'm i'm doing the math in my head and it's even even if you did even if you did a million it's like you're going to be in the in the red like so it's like it's like come on man like everyone's got to find a negative about it and to me it's it's one of the most incredible things Did you lose, like, did it lose its luster a little bit?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Like, have you still been putting the $1 bets in? Or are you kind of now just like, I did it, I'm done? Like, what's the super parlay for this weekend? Because I'm having a rough year so far, Andrew. I got to do some like tape study, but I'm thinking maybe like Leon by sub, maybe like round one or two. I've seen a couple people with that. Like I think it's like plus 2,200 or something right now. I mean, crazy to think the opposite ends of the spectrum that you two went on emotionally.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Jed, like, invested heavy in Valentina. You hit this 72,000 when Grasso gets the sub. I mean, absolutely insane. Had I known beforehand that that sub was going to be such a monumental win for Andrew, I'd have been okay with the loss. I just been like, all right, well, he's going to make a lot more than I'm about to lose here. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:17 All right, Andrew, thanks so much for hopping on, dude. Appreciate it. Congratulations again. You're forever etched in MMA hour big hitters history. And yeah, man, enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy the wins. You can retire from MMA betting now, dude. You've won the game. You've won the game. You have defeated MNay betting. All right, Andrew, it'll be easy. All right, guys, have a good one. That's annoying. What? You're a muffler. You don't hear it? Oh, I don't even notice it. I usually drowned it out with the radio. How's this? Oh, yeah. Way better. Save on insurance by switching to Bel Air Direct and use the money to fix your car. Bel Air Direct, insurance simplified.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Conditions apply. All right. Shout out to Andrew. I still can't believe that. AC, the Hulk. The greatest bet I've ever seen. I don't know if anyone is ever going to top that. I mean, it was just a thing of beauty.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I was trying to get across to him, like, just how, like, hype were you? Like, and he was like, you know, lost for words. Cool customer. I would have been, dude, I would have been losing my shit. it, man. I just said it to you off the air. When Ryan Span, I had the span sub and sub round one, when he even had the potential of getting that guillotine, like, I was like, oh my God, no way, this will be so sick. Like, I was getting ready to absolutely lose it. And that would have been to win like a unit and a half. And this guy just won like $400,000. I couldn't
Starting point is 00:14:39 even imagine. So shout out to him. Congratulations to him. Shout out. Speaking of last week, I lost again. Reverse shout out to us. I mean, 2023. This is it. This is the official. Fade us. Do not back us warning. This is, 20203 is not my year, but I'm just going to say the turnaround starts this year, or this week, 286. That's when it's going to happen. That's about all I have to say last week. Jed, any words from you? My only thing, I did want to talk about this. I lost a little over a unit last week, tough, tough going, but I got to say, I'm feeling better about this having burnt my whole bank
Starting point is 00:15:15 account thing. Because let me tell you, the stress is so much different when it's literally $5. Of course. I lost $5 last week as part of this. So, like, I wasn't even sad. So I was like, okay. Well, I guess that's the benefit to having just lit my bank girl on fire the week before. Let me play devil's advocate.
Starting point is 00:15:39 When you finish up like six and a half units, you'll be like. Winning's winning. Damn. Winning is winning. I only won $32 this week. No, no, no. Winning's winning. All right, I can feel that.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Also, who knows if I'm ever going to win again? That's true. It seems impossible to win this year. Flyweight under's alive and well. Another easy winner. People just need to stop doubting them. I'm doubting this week. Oh, I hope you are doubting, Jed.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I'm here for the doubters. I'm here to expel that. So that was last week. Oh, yeah, actually one last thing I have to say on last week, I said I wasn't going to play Bellator at like the 11th hour. at like 5.30 on Friday night. I was like, this part of it sounds good. Throw it in. Loser. Loser. I played, what did you have? The over two and a half in the, uh, oh yeah, and Moldovsky. Yeah, I was like, all right, Jedlikes over two and a half. I'll play the over one and a half and
Starting point is 00:16:31 it'll hit easily. Nope, first round finish. I was like, well, this is why I don't play. It doesn't make any sense. I'm tying up. I got. It doesn't make sense to me. I have fewer bets this week, fewer units of exposure. And I feel good. I feel good. This is the bounce back. I needed to be humbled. That's what needed to happen. So let's move on to UFC 286. And we bring in another special guest. It's a two-guest episode for No Best Bar this week. Yes. And I'm very proud. I am very happy to have this next one. It is Alex Richings. You may know him from MMA on Point. He does e-sports commentating. If I'm not mistaken, Alex, we can find you this week on the UFC watch-along. That's correct. I'll be hosting the watch-along this weekend.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Jen's is on holiday, I think, so they have kindly asked me to do it. Damn, bro. I mean, Jen's the man, steps away for one card and they're like, let's bring them in. Let's bring them in. You're going to be inducted into the Hall of Fame as well this weekend. Is that just the new thing? I feel like they would have told me. I don't think there's an e-sports category yet, so, but we'll give it a couple years, maybe.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I mean, to be totally honest, so this is an audio-only podcast, despite Alex having a fantastic camera setup and a very professional feel. you may recognize the voice. I mean, now that I'm sitting here with you on the podcast watching this, I'm just like, this is an MMA on point video. Like, it's just like the voice is phenomenal. I have to say, along with the accent, like it is 10 out of 10. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I don't think I've had so many compliments in the first two minutes of a podcast in my life. So I'll graciously take. Thank you very much. That's what we do here. I mean, we may be down. We may be negative in the money in 2023, but we stay positive. That's what we do here. That's good.
Starting point is 00:18:13 In love. So, Alex, you said it's a little bit later for you. Where are you located right now? I'm actually in London, just to add to the whole theme of what was happening this weekend. I was going to say, you know, I didn't want to hint at it. I can give you some boots on the ground feel. You know, we've been going mental these last year or so just because of all the events we've had. You know, we were starved like much of the world.
Starting point is 00:18:36 There's a bunch of new fans, you know, people who never really got into it. I get into it. And yeah, London is a buzz, especially. especially at the MMA on point office because we just have a lot of going on and it's, you know, fight week. Everyone has got a ticket to go see the show. I had a ticket.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I'm not going now, obviously, because I'm doing the watch along. Yes. Actually, I mean, dude, that's not a bad problem to have.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Like, are you going to get to host the watch along for the UFC? Are you going to get to go to UFC to Washington? It's true. It's true. It's a great little combo. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:07 the first one around, I was a guest on the watch along. And then the one after that, I got COVID. And now this one, I was like, I can finally go to these new London shows. They asked me to do the watch like again. So what can he do? So in the last year, this will be the third London show and you've managed to go to zero.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I've had a ticket for all of them and haven't been to any of them. That's incredible. Let's dive right in. I mean, there's no better place to go than to start kicking this thing off and start with the main event. Y'all's boy, Leon Rocky Edwards, gets to defend, get an opportunity to defend. to defend his title in front of his home crowd in the O-Tun Arena. It should be absolute scenes when this man makes his walk.
Starting point is 00:19:49 As the A-side, we're going to get him in the red corner this weekend. I cannot wait for it. I think the place is going to be in hysteria, especially after the co-main event. Right now, though, Camaro Ouson, a minus 245 favorite Leon Edwards, coming back at plus 205. The over-under is set at four and a half,
Starting point is 00:20:06 over minus 195, under plus 160. Alex, you're in London. I will let you kick this thing off. Does Rocky defend his title on Saturday night? Well, like, I've done a breakdown video for this. And the unfortunate thing is there aren't many moments in this fight where Leon's actually able to stop Usman from doing what he wants to do. He gets out jabbed, he gets pressured to the cage constantly,
Starting point is 00:20:30 gets controlled against the fence a lot, gets taken down a lot. And there's a couple of things he does right. I mean, the best part of the fight for Leon is really the last two minutes, where he sort of switches on a bit and starts to counter everything that he's been dealing with. I don't know how much of that is a confidence thing. You know, I think that's the big argument. Everyone's trying to make Willie go in with a new confidence, more, you know, aware of his ability to actually do damage to this man. But I can definitely see why Usman's still the favorite.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I mean, he won almost every minute of that fight. So if you're asking me, which, you know, you obviously are, I'm going to lean towards Rocky in this one. I think having the ability and the memory of knocking him out, I think Usman is going to probably change the game plan as a result. And Rocky just needs to be a bit more offensive. He's just got to let those hands go. He's got to refill that space and not retreat as much. So I'm leaning towards Rocky on this one.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I would bet on the underdog, not heavily, but I would throw some on it for sure. Yeah, I mean, for me, it's what you just mentioned. It's the confidence. Like you have to think Leon Edwards' confidence is through the roof now, and you have to wonder where Kamaru's confidence is. I mean, looking at his Instagram, looking at the way he's been talking leading up to it,
Starting point is 00:21:42 it seems, you know, to us, to the public, like his confidence is unwavered, and he's just, this is status quo, he's coming to get his belt back. Nice shot, Leon, but, you know, I'm the rightful champ and I'm coming back for the belt. But I still have to wonder, I mean, you know, is he going to be all right?
Starting point is 00:21:58 The way that I looked at it, the way that I am going to make my comparison to explain how I got to my pick, because I have bet Kamaro Usman in every fight that I've watched Kamaro Usman fight in, and I guess I'm just not going to get off the bandwagon
Starting point is 00:22:15 just yet. I'm going to have to... The train went off the tracks with headshot dead in the fifth round last time, killed all my parlayes. Shout out to Leon Rocky Edwards for that one. I'm just going to have to let the train get fully off the tracks before I stop backing Kamar Usma.
Starting point is 00:22:30 For a lot of the reasons you just said, he was finding a lot of success. He obviously was up on the judge's score, card's going into that fifth round and you know if the knockout doesn't happen which it did i fully understand that it was not a fluke it was a fantastic shot fantastic setup by leon edwards if it doesn't happen he remains champ we're not even talking about having a third fight uh one that i will make the comparison to rose versus zhong rose gets the head kick chaos obviously that one happened in the first round i backed rose in that second one and i was like i you know i have to wonder if jang's confidence
Starting point is 00:23:03 is wavered. John came out and was incredibly competitive. A lot of people even thought that Zhang may have won the fight, but it wasn't like her confidence was shaken. She wasn't punchy. She didn't like, it wasn't like her chin was obliterated or anything like that. So I'm going to lean that's the side that Kamaro was going to have. I think it's going to be a highly contested fight. I think it's going to be incredibly close. I think it's going to be a fantastic back and forth affair. I'm excited to see Leon fight at sea level rather than up in altitude. He did mention that being an issue for him. But in the end, I sided with Kamar Luisman to get it done this time, get the belt back and I backed him at Moneyline minus 200 jedd your thoughts on the main event
Starting point is 00:23:39 i haven't made a bet on this and some of this is probably me just being afraid that i can't pick a winner to save my oh no the confidence is shaking this you are kamara usman this week i was saying you guys were talking about usman and his confidence level where it's at mine is rock bottom right now so uh because kind of reflect All of the not fighting parts of this make me want to pick Leon Edwards. Historically, the guy who's won the rematch in a trilogy fight, overwhelmingly likely to win the third fight. It's only happened a couple of times in history where that hasn't been the case.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And there's usually been an outlier reason for that, Vitor Bell for. A quick statistic for you. I believe it's in immediate rematches where the challenger took the belt in the immediate rematch, they're 11 and 3 defending the belt. The guy that gets the belt taken has only taken it back three times. And that anecdotally just tracks
Starting point is 00:24:45 sort of with how it should work, right? Because let's be honest about what happened the first fight. I don't care about what happened the first 20 minutes of it. The reality is what happened in that fight is the same thing that happened in Grasor of Chivchenko.
Starting point is 00:25:00 and it's it's something I say all the time the most difficult thing to do in this sport and maybe all of sports in general is to defend a UFC title over and over again because there is simply so much tape on you that small minutia which can determine the fight can get exposed we saw it chevchenko grasso came out i was training this back take you saw our back as soon as she spins i'm going to do it you saw before after leon did it he was training that setup for that head kick because that is a trigger that Usman has. That doesn't go away and there's only more time. Usman probably,
Starting point is 00:25:39 I've been saying Usman's been athletically declining for a while now and that's still very true. All of that makes me want to pick Leon Edwards. I cannot get it out of my mind, though, that of the 39 minutes these two have shared in a cage, Kamar Usman has won 35 of it. like the first round in this last one, Leon got the take down held position. Usman had nothing for him at that. And then the one head kick with a minute left.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I cannot get that out of my head. I think if I'm going to place a bet, it will probably be, I've been looking at a same game parlay for Usman. At Usman and over one and a half rounds. I just don't think this fight ends early either side. realistically, I think this fight most likely goes into deep waters, same as last one. So in general, I also just kind of like over one and a half, the Connor Burke special as a parley piece. I mean, you know I did it.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah. But if I'm going to bet aside here, it will be, I would never bet Usman at this price anymore. So I'm probably just going to end up staying away on this fight and maybe just using the over one and a half as a parlay piece. but I also have a bunch of other parley pieces in this fight too. So it's tough. It's tough to know what I want to do here. I was hoping y'all would both be aligned and be like,
Starting point is 00:27:05 this is the move and that's not what I got here. For me, I mean, like, sorry, Kama. Go ahead, Alex, go ahead. I was just going to say, we were talking about the confidence. Like, for me, a big part of why Leon didn't have a lot of success because it didn't seem like he had any confidence. He was constantly retreating and giving space and backing up. And you talk about tape, he can go back and watch.
Starting point is 00:27:24 that fight and be pointed out at everything that he did wrong and also the moments he did right which is going to help in both sides of the coin so it is really interesting i know i'm just continuing to like analyze a fight that we've already discussed now but like there i think the confidence still goes both well it's appreciated that's a good point because like i've i've heard a lot there's just so many unknowns kind of coming into this in that way of like will leon come in with a lot more confidence based on the fact that he won even though he didn't have his best game how does the KO affect Usman like all of that Kent Usman similarly can just go back and be like oh i mostly just stop this man doing anything i have to just not get kicked in the face again so i don't know man
Starting point is 00:28:05 it's a tough one for me to have a confident read on yeah i mean i i'm with you jed i do think he goes longer i did use the over one and a half as a parlay piece uh i think it's like 13 of leon's 14 ufc fights have gone over the one and a half and then Usman it's like 14 of his last 15 uh it feels like a fight you know especially there's a world where where Usman is like a little gun shy to start out like maybe not maybe he comes out full confidence but yeah i think over one and a half over two and half i i think this likely goes along and there's a real world where it goes to a decision as well let me tell you another parley piece that i'm uh i'm interested in from this fight using and it's fight it will not be won by split or majority decision that's only at minus 750 so we get a finish
Starting point is 00:28:56 or you be either way which seem to me by far the most likely outcomes for this fight uh because if if leon hadn't knocked him out it was a very clear unanimous decision i just don't really see how it's tough for me to imagine a back and forth fight where this is you know the competitive rounds either way I think one guy is going to be having his way. So at only minus $750 for a fight won't be won by split or majority, I like that as a juicy parley leg. I've never heard of that before, honestly. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:29:28 I was scouring to try and find action on this fight that I could feel confident in. And that was the first one that I looked at and was like, okay, that's something there. That's interesting. Yeah. I guess I'd say that it's probably not going to end. in a split decision, but I can't say for certain. It's kind of hard to tell because it also feels like both guys can take each other down.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And if one guy gets top position, that could be how the rest of the round plays out. So you can't see a scenario where they kind of trade top position throughout rounds as well. Yeah. Or, you know, maybe it's, I guess maybe it's clear rounds. Has there been a, at Leon Edwards does have one split decision against Gunner Nelson. Actually, it's two split decisions. It's another one against Claudio Silva. He thought Gunner Nelson was like a lifetime.
Starting point is 00:30:16 ago. How long ago was that? Doesn't mean he can't go to split decisions. I think that was only three fights ago for Gunny because I think he How many split decisions? It's actually probably very true. 2019, I think was 2019. Yeah, it was 2019. Does Usman have any? I don't think he has any, and this is off the top of my head.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I can look it up. But he had one of the Ultimate Fighter House, pretty sure the split in the Ultimate Fighter House. Okay. He had a majority against Michael Graves and the tough house. So it's just split. It won't end in a split decision or majority won't end in split or majority.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Well, there's two splits in a majority in history. All right. Minus 750 is a very acceptable price for me for that. Bankroll, you can unload the whole bankroll on it? No, no, no. That's just one of mini parley legs. We're going to get into it this week. I have way more bets than I should.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Oh, geez. I have way less than I normally have on a pay-per-view. I can promise you that. I think I have nine total bets across singles and parles and that's There were just a lot of stuff that I liked, but then also there's just a lot of parlay fodder on this car. Okay. See, me too. There was a lot of stuff that I liked, but I restrained. I had to like really love it this week for me to play. I have eight parlay pieces that I haven't made any parlay from, but there are just eight parley pieces sitting in front of me that I'm going to tie together in some fashion. Or I'll just roll them all together.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Well, if you've got eight parlay pieces, then we've got to keep this thing moving. Let's move on to the co. Any last words on the main event? anything from you guys. On to the co-man. We go then. Absolute banger in the lightweight division. We're getting Justin Gaetchi taking on Rafael Fazeev. Right now, you can have Fizif for minus 225. Gaetchi coming back at plus 190.
Starting point is 00:32:01 The total is set at one and a half over minus 180 under plus 145. I personally, I like this matchup for Fiziv. I mean, there's really no threat of a takedown from Gaichie. I mean, we've had, what, 10 UFC fights? he's never completed a takedown even if he tried to Zeeve has a 92% takedown defense. And if it's just going to stay striking, I'm going to go with the guy that has 50 professional kickboxing fights
Starting point is 00:32:27 that, you know, got a bronze medal at the Muay Thai World Championships. I think he's going, yeah, yeah, exactly. I think he's going to find a lot of success with the leg kicks, with the body kicks, you know, and I think he's going to cause problem for Gachi. And as the fight wears on, I think he's going to be able to get Gaci out of there. Yeah, I mean, I completely agree with you. I think one thing Justin has shown vulnerability to is the body attacks.
Starting point is 00:32:51 You know, we saw Eddie Alvarez exploit that, Dustin Poir exploit that, because he was very good with that lead leg to the liver. I see him land in that over and over again, which I think makes Justin desperate, which I think in a fight against Hafer here, he's probably going to be out to out-speed him, out-maneuver him, with the footwork, cut some angles, drop some shots down the middle,
Starting point is 00:33:09 and I think he's going to crack Justin, who probably will end up resorting to sort of war mode, Justin, as he usually does. And as good as his gas tank is, it does feel like he does punch himself out a little bit sometimes and starts to slow down, where I think Fiziv is going to stay fresh throughout. It is obviously going to be far too chaotic to really try to figure out a winner in this one. And I think if Justin doesn't bring his leg kicks in and just starts boxing, he's going to have a real tough time trying to manage that range between Fiziv. He's just going to start screaming in his face and dancing around him there. So I'm with you, Connor.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I would go for Zee for sure. So I'm going to preface all of this by saying that Justin Gaichi is my large adult son, and I would never ever pick against him. So take everything else with a grain of salt. Oh, wow. Y'all can eat shit and die. Justin Gaichi going to win this fight. Sure, all of the things you say are entirely accurate, and I can't really refute that.
Starting point is 00:34:07 But, Alex, you did say something in there that is very important for me. in the way I've constructed how this fight should go or will go, it's leg kicks. Justin Gage is the nastiest leg kicker in MMA, certainly one of them. And because I wanted to find a way to sell myself on betting Justin Gachi, looked it up. Hafeel Fazeve in his UFC career,
Starting point is 00:34:33 not very good at defending leg kicks. Or body attacks against him as well, statistically. And that actually just bears out if you watch the tape, too. If you go back and look at it, he is 18.82 leg kick defense, essentially. Like, overwhelmingly, where his defense has shined is drawing people to go headshots or he's very nimble, cuts great angles, has great footwork. Trump movement. Yeah, Trump, yes.
Starting point is 00:34:59 They said that in one of the fights, too. Like, look at the way his torso moves. So he draws people into that and they get away from it. But, Connor, just something else you said at the start of. Gacy's not going to go for takedowns. I think that's absolutely correct. I also think that's the best way to go about fighting Hafeel Fiziv.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I think where RDA probably made a tactical error was forcing takedowns and it made it a clear dividing line of I'm trying to do this, you have to do this and you can just get your game off. We've watched Fiziv fight other dudes who are going to strike with him, Brad Radell, Bobby Green. Like, they've had
Starting point is 00:35:38 success. Hanato and Mercano had a lot of success. Now, granted, he got knocked out very quickly into that fight as well. But I'm still banking on Justin Gaichi having that war mode in him and controlled chaos is what Trevor Whitman calls it. I'm banking on that. I'm banking on leg kicks and a good game plan to at range make this a competitive fight. And then Fiziv will get into a brawl with you. Like he is willing to chuck him if it comes down to it.
Starting point is 00:36:09 and that's just a tough way. People have had success with Gachi doing that, but it takes a lot. If Fiziv is the guy and he's the next coming and he may well be, we talked about it at the beginning of the year. I have a future Fiziv future champion ticket, so I won't be that surprised, but I'm taking plus $1.95 for Gachi because I can't let him down.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I don't mind that, dude. I mean, he's like a big under. dog and they're, I have in my notes. Like, if Fizziv's going to lose, it's going to be turned into a just all out brawl and Fizizizade gets dropped. Like, we've seen him knocked out in the UFC before and obviously Justin Gachie is very capable of finishing people. So that, that is an outlet. That is a route for this to go. One thing I will say, and I do have to, I do have to admit it. I have to break down the fourth wall here. I took Raphael Fiziv two months ago. I've been sitting on a Raphael a Zeev ticket for two months.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I took him at minus 110. It took him at minus 110. That's pretty good. I think if he's gone, dead. No, no, go on. I was I say, I think if he stands toe to toe with Justin, it's a completely different fight, right? You mentioned how he likes to chuck hands.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Like, and he extends his combination sometimes, and Justin really, you will sit and wait in that chaos and rear up a cut left hook. He's done it multiple times on pretty much everyone he's fought recently. He's landed that combination, and that could change the whole fight. So I think you're right. how do you all feel about over one and a half minus 175 wedding you're going to be sweating I feel like I'll be alive quite durable I mean yeah you change very durable yeah you change sweating anxiety uh insanity to yeah being alive uh I mean I guess yeah if if that's what you want to do
Starting point is 00:38:02 you're going to feel alive because one thing about this fight we might disagree on who is going to win, I can almost guarantee that this fight is going to be sick. Like, I just see a way where it's not just a banger. Like, I think the London crowd is going to be going nuts. She's literally never had a boring fight. Yes. And Raphael Fazeve is a fantastic dance barter. I think the London crowd is going to be going insane. I think it's going to be this beautiful appetizer to just crescendo into the main event when Rocky makes his walk. The roof is going to go off the place after this thing gets him hyped up. Like, I think they did just a fantastic job. If you're not going to make it a title fight, just making an all-out sick war for the comment.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Unless someone gets eye-poked, obviously, then. I mean, we can't talk like that. We can't talk like that. Don't put that bad jukechior out. 13 seconds in, groin kick, no contest. We'll re-rack this one at a fight night at the apex. As long as it's Fiziv who's doing the illegal, Justin Gage, you'll fight with one eye. For sure.
Starting point is 00:39:03 That man would just be like, it's fine. Let's do it. Well, he couldn't see for age. Could he? Sorry, just to touch on that. He had really bad vision for the long of his time, right? So, yeah. He doesn't need to see to do violence into me.
Starting point is 00:39:16 No, he doesn't. Have you watched the, the embeddits this week? No, no, yet. I didn't see the two. I've got it heathed up. The one that dropped today, Gachie's talking basically about the fighting for Zeev, and he's just like, I don't really want to say it because it seems rude or whatever, but I've basically won fight of the year every year since coming to the UFC.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And Fazeep seems like a guy that's going to make that happen again. I was like, hell yes. Oh, my God. I think no matter what, this fight is going to deliver. I think it's going to be awesome. We disagree on the pick. Me and Alex siding with Fiziv. I was in the dark just going to pick Gagee because I love it.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I actually didn't know that you were like a Gachie, a big fan of it. He's the most exciting fighter that's ever been in the sport. Everyone should be where I'm at with him. I just want to see him do violence. He is fantastic. Winner lose, it doesn't matter. Just do violence. All right, well, let's roll on on the main card.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Next up, we have a welterweight bout. It is Gunner Nelson, aforementioned Gunner Nelson, taking on Brian Barberina coming in on short notice right now. You can have Gunny for the price of minus. He is a big favorite in this one, minus 425. Brian Barbarana coming back at plus 340. When this first got made, I was like, man, maybe like Brian Barbarana wouldn't be like a terrible dog. Like he literally has the dog in up.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Like he's one of the most game fighters in the UFC. He's always down for a scrap with anyone. Then I watch some tape, dude, and I just cannot get over the glaring fact that there is just the clearest path to victory for Gunner Nelson. Take down the man who has been taken down 26 times. in his last six fights and one of those fights was just a brawl with Robbie Lawler where zero takedowns were attempted so over the course of five fights he got taken down 26 times that's over five times a fight listen like Brian Barberana he's an exciting fighter but the way that he finishes people is usually accumulating damage on them TKOing them he doesn't really have that like flat line you
Starting point is 00:41:28 thing gunner's also pretty durable I think even if Brian Barberana has early, The opportunity is going to present itself. This flight is going to go to the mat. And once it's there, it's Gunner Nelson's world to work with. I think he gets it done and I think he probably submits Brian Barbarana. Yeah, I mean, I think I'm, I think you're right. I mean, Gunner's not fought in a year as well. So I feel like he's going to be relatively fresh, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:52 So I think he'll be ready for whatever Brian puts on him. But he's such a finesse guy, you know, I feel like he can make this quite clean and then just get a take down and get to the back. I mean, RDA just subbed him, you know, then his last fight. the same path to victory right there like you said. Brian again, yeah, he's just going to want to make it a war. Toge Toe, power for power. That's how he likes to fight a slug fest.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Gunna never really ever fights like that, you know. So I don't know if it stayed on the feet. It's an interesting style matchup just because of the striking. Well, I expect him to just fully level change as soon as he gets an opportunity. And yet, like you said, look for the back and then get them out there. Maybe even, you might even want to go first round submission on this one. Yeah, I mean, if it stays standing, then I, I, I full well deserve to lose this bed.
Starting point is 00:42:35 That will be a frustrating one. But I did use Gunnar Nelson as a parlay piece. So I'm a thousand percent with you in the pilot piece. I didn't even for a minute think that Brian Barbraina was live. I was like, yeah. I saw the name at like plus 350. I was like, man. And then I was like, no.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Yeah, I was just like, this is going to happen. I know exactly what's going to go on here. He's going to get tackled and tapped. So for sure have Gunny as a parley piece. Other things just in general, because we were here not that long ago, Connor. You recall, I mean, everybody remembers the fantastic. What was that the, is that the first London card? I think it was the first London card.
Starting point is 00:43:18 The Sato defensive showing of all time. Man just gave up his back. He went into the fight and was like, I'm not getting submitted. I don't care what happened. I'm going to win, but I'm going to morally win by ruining everybody's gambling day. That's what I'm going to do. That was the one bet I lost that night. I got to tell you, Brian Barbrain is here to ruin a lot of days,
Starting point is 00:43:44 but it's not by focusing purely on defense. He's not coming in here to play the game when Gunny gets his back. He's going to get tapped. So I've got Gunny as a parley piece. I've got Gunny by submission at plus 100. And I'm also, you know, looking at Gunny by submission. You said round one, Alex, but I'm thinking round two, because four of his seven finishes in the UFC,
Starting point is 00:44:12 second round submission, and last fight for Barberina, second round submission. So plus 450 for the sub in round two. I might throw a buck on it and see if we get paid. Oh, yeah, I forgot. Yeah, a buck. So 0.2 units. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I like that. I like that. We're in full alignment there that the path of victory is relatively clear for Gunner Nelson. He knows what he has to do to get his hand raised. Let's keep it rolling. Next up, a women's flyweight bout, Jennifer Maya, taking on King Casey O'Neill. Right now you can get Casey O'Neill for minus 165. Jennifer Maya coming back at plus 140.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Your guys' thoughts on this fight, Alex, I'll let you lead. It's a really interesting fight because I think a lot of people will, will count Meyer out, but she's so good at shutting people down, nullifying games, controlling against the fence, holding top position, and just being quite difficult to deal with on the feet. It's not the best part of her game, but she can offer problems. And Casey's been out with an ACL injury, if I'm not wrong, right? So we haven't seen her comeback. Her last fight was split against Roxanne, when Roxy, again, is kind of one of those sneaky
Starting point is 00:45:22 strikers on the feet. And Roxy had enough to kind of nullify the ground game as well, because Casey, I think, a brown belt, if I'm not mistaken. So there's a BJJ battle that's going to go on. It really depends if Casey can get her kicking game going. Because I know she's been down at Tiger Moitai. I don't think Maya really ever employs too many kicks. But physically, I can see a fight where Maya is able to lock her down against the fence,
Starting point is 00:45:48 drag her off, get a top position and make it difficult for Casey. So I'm going to lean towards Casey because there is also this thing that happens in MMA, where if you're the same age as Casey, and you're out for a year with an injury, you might come back and look twice as good as you were because you've just been studying and observing and doing visual learning when you can and just training and just training for a fight. So I'm going to believe in Casey in this one. I'm going to lean towards nine and no.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I think she goes 10. All right. I mean, I do think it's going to be close. I do have to say right off the bat, you know, this is, I guess I guess I got two heart picks here, two heart bets. The first one was Usman, a guy that I've rid with his entire UFC career. and then Casey O'Neill, big friend of the program over at the MMA hour. I've bet on her all our UFC fights as well.
Starting point is 00:46:34 So yes, I did back King Casey O'Neill. I wish the price tag was a little bit closer for all the reasons that you just said, especially in regards to Jennifer Meyer and the, you know, the struggles that she can give people and the experience that she has over King Casey O'Neill. But at the end of the day, what I decided on is the volume aspect. If she can get things going, then, I mean, it's going to be Maya lands one, King Casey Lance, too. I mean, she's, Jennifer Mayas has been outstruck in eight of her 10 UFC fights, and we just saw King Casey land 225 significant strikes on,
Starting point is 00:47:09 on Roxanne Marta Ferry. Like she, she puts out the volume. She stays busy. She gets things done. There is a world, you know, I mean, you said the BJJ battle. There's a world where, where Casey O'Neill is able to take this to the ground and maybe be able to find some success. I mean, obviously Jennifer Maya is not, you know, a fish out of water there. her own right. I think she's going to out volume her. She's going to out strike her and it's going to be a close decision, but she gets her hand raised. I do think this goes through decision. I mean, two very durable women with not the craziest finishing acumen. So I think we see a Casey O'Neill 29, 28 decision victory. Interesting. So again, take everything I say with the expectation that I'm dead
Starting point is 00:47:52 ass wrong based on how this year's going. I did lead in. I'm biased. I'm writing. I'm writing. storylines in my head for Casey O'Neum. No, I'm just interested to hear because my first note on this fight is, what the hell am I missing? I was shocked that the line was this close. Really? I don't believe in Jennifer Maya.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I've never believed in Jennifer Maya. How might you go up? Pump might you go up on this part. You shouldn't believe anything I say. I've never believed her. I'm not going to start believing in her. She is an exceedingly competent fighter. But Casey O'Neill is, look, she is not Aaron Blanchefield.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I know she can talk better and is trying to put herself in that air, undefeated prospect. Not the same game. But she is the new, and Maya has just been a solid, you know, solid enough competitor, but she doesn't do anything spectacular. She maybe is a little faster on the feet than O'Neill, but O'Neill has very good shot placement and way more volume. I don't think we're going to get to a lot of grappling exchanges.
Starting point is 00:48:56 If we do, I would favor O'Neill in them. But I think if those happen, they're largely going to be initiated by O'Neill. But I think mostly we're just going to get a boxing match. Maybe some kicking from O'Neill. We'll see how the, it was a reconstructed knee, right? Yeah, ICR. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:14 We'll see how that holds up. But, I mean, look, Roxanne Mataferri is not a great fighter, though she is kind of a great fighter in some ways, certainly longevity. I'm not to describe, in it. Meaning, yeah, she's a tough cookie. But O'Neill had to work very hard in that fight, but she landed like 300 strikes or something insane over 15 minutes. She doesn't put everything into her punches, but she is active.
Starting point is 00:49:42 She's so active. I think she's just going to double or triple up the strike totals here. And this should be a pretty easy formulaic decision for her. So I took her straight. I'm looking at a bet on her by decision at plus 120. And I like over two and a half on this fight because Maya is incredibly durable. She only been finished twice. Valentina Chifchenko couldn't get her out in five rounds.
Starting point is 00:50:07 She's incredibly durable. So I also like the over two and a half as a pilot piece. Yeah, I mean, I think unless something is really wrong happened with this injury and she's not ready to come back, I just don't see a world where Casey doesn't. at the very least outstriker numbers wise by a significant margin like it just it just feels like someone that has a ton of output a ton of volume against someone that does not and is typically getting outstruck in most of her fights yeah don't forget that first round against valetina though can you where she just held her against the cage and beat her up and shut her down completely so i mean she did
Starting point is 00:50:44 have some decent success like i mean she only ended up winning one round but but yeah i mean and you you just said it jed like her durability could very well be the thing that wins the fight here. I mean, if Shevchenko could not finish her, I don't see a world where Casey O'Neill does. Yeah, it just seems very, very unlikely. And you shouldn't factor this in too much, but I can't help it to let it sway me. It's very clear who the UFC wants to win this fight. This is very clearly a set-up fight for Casey O'Neill to take these step up into the top 10. This isn't, they didn't put this together with Sean Shelby and Mick Maynard going.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Well, let's test her out. Let's see if she's good enough. It's like Jennifer Maya is on her way out of the top 10 in the next couple of years. This girl's the new one. Let's boost her up, get her into that, and get her on a collision course with future champion Aaron Blanchfield. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:36 We're doing some matchmaking here. O'Neill Blanchfield, UFC, what, 292? For the strap? Yeah. It depends on how long it's going to take Blanchefield to get the belt. If they're going to rerun Grasso-Shvchenko immediately, then Blanchfield will have to wait one. more. I think that's what will happen. All right. So we we think that Casey O'Neill will get it done there. Let's move on to the last fight on the main card. Middleweight bout. Marvin Vittori, Roman DeLise,
Starting point is 00:52:02 what a way to kick it off. And right now, you can get Marvin Vittori from minus 2.75. Roman deletes coming back at plus 230. The man that has cashed as an underdog three straight fights, all three wins by finish, they are giving you the underdog price tag again. I mean, for me, just kicking it off before I toss the UJed. I think this is a sick fight. There's a chance that it could be boring if Vitoria is just having a bunch of wrestling success, but I think this is going to be a sick fight,
Starting point is 00:52:31 the way that DeLite fights. Where does DeLite go from here if he gets a win? Do we start talking title shots? This guy, like, in nine months, become like a huge underdog. If he wins, he's fighting Drickas Duplice for the next middleweight title shot. Give me that fight.
Starting point is 00:52:47 That is a meme fight. That is a meme fight waiting to happen. Like, this dude was an underdog to Kyle Dawkes in June of last year, like a plus 210 underdog. And I bet Kyle Dawkes, like a dumbass. And like, now we're talking about if he gets a win here, we're talking about title Eliminator fights. I mean, it's incredible. Overall, I think Vittori, like, is probably the better fighter.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Like, maybe this is where it ends. But, Jed, what do you think, then? Oh, yeah. Look, love me some Roman Deleadze. backed him the last couple of times to good effect. He ain't won in this fight. You're off the train. You're off the train.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Yeah. Look, my biggest concern for betting against Roman DeLite legitimately is that Marab just won, and so maybe Georgia's on a role right now. I was going to say, like, we're going to go against our Georgia guys like that. We should respect that. This is not a good style matchup for Roman DeLite, because Marvin Vittori is not a good style matchup for almost anybody.
Starting point is 00:53:52 He's a Terminator. He can't be killed. And Roman DeLizze has thrived a lot on a very good finishing ability. And he's not going to be able to do it here. And instead, Vittori is going to Vittori all over him, just infinite forward pressure, combinations out the ass, clinching along the fight, just stuck in the fight away minute by minute. and just piling up points without ever getting close to a finish. I respect the hell of Marvin Vittori's game. It ain't pretty.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Nobody here will tell you it's a pretty thing to watch, but it's incredibly effective, and I think this lines up very well for him. I like Votori. I like a shot on Votori by decision, and I like the over two and a half rounds, because Votori almost exclusively goes to decisions, and DeLi DeLi-Dleidze is not that way,
Starting point is 00:54:46 but Vittori's incillable. Your thoughts, Alex. I mean, I actually think this is going to be a much closer fight than you think that, Jed. Just purely because what I like about Deleite, what you mentioned that, Connor, is that we don't, it was surprising to see him get all those wins, but that's because we don't really know much about him. And every single time he has surprised the heck out of us. Like that Jack a Manson finish was insane.
Starting point is 00:55:09 I've never seen a finish like that, dude. Like, the guys are gold medalist at the ADC. Asian, like invitations, whatever it was, to get his ADCC. And he didn't get that. The trials, exactly. Thank you, Jed. But, like, he's got, like, a very interesting game. And I do agree, like, as stylistically, you know, Vittori has a lot of output, right?
Starting point is 00:55:30 So, Roman waits. He's super patient. He just tries to swing and take your head off when he sees the opportunities. And I could definitely see Votori just coming forward constantly throwing combinations and just tagging him up. But I think if Vittori shoots for a takedown, who the hell knows what's going to happen? That sweepie hit on her mouth. handsome was beautiful. He could sweep Vittori. He could catch a neck when he goes for a double
Starting point is 00:55:50 leg, go for a guillotine. He could find himself in top position in a mad scramble. I am slightly backing Roman here because I just don't know how good he is. And he's got some real tricky jiu-jitsu and grappling. So I actually think he's going to make a mistake though. He's going to shoot takedowns. He's just going to hold him along the fence. He's not trying to get him down. He's just trying to hold him just to hug him on the fence because that's Marvatorre's special, I mean, that's my thing. Is it what you just said, dude, if he goes for the wrestling, if he tries to wrestle him, I think that might be a bad idea because you're taking it to Roman DeLite's strength.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Like if it turns into a BJJ match, like Roman Delizze has the better chops in that area than Marvin Vittoria. I really think, like, Marvin's best plan is to, you know, work the clinch, stay striking. And at the end of the day, I never got around to a play on this just because of there's a world where it does hit the mat and Roman DeLite throw. arrives, but also just the fact that the dudes won as a dog three times in a row and the way that Georgia MMA is on fire and me being from Georgia, state, not the country, but still, you know, pretty much the same thing. Me being from Georgia, I can't go against them. I looked
Starting point is 00:57:02 like an ass last week going against the Georgian fighter. I looked like an ass going against Dalia, Teporia, against Bryce Mitchell. I'm not going to let my own people make me look like an ass again. But that's the thing. Mara. Mara, Mara, Marvorti is like, middleweight Mara. He's going to do a decent comparison. Same shit. Listen, man, we're not telling you to not play it. You play Marvin Vagorri minus 300,
Starting point is 00:57:26 but don't come crying to us when Delite caches is an underdog again. I can see your mindset. I just have the man by decision, baby. I can see your mindset as well because we just saw Mnese, you know, someone who was a finisher, go up against someone he couldn't finish and just like have no success whatsoever. So it might be a case of that where he just hits another wall and a guy that he can't finish him to me knees,
Starting point is 00:57:45 gets himself in a little. lot of trouble. I think the Klingelah, I mean, I could see it well where Marvin holds him against the fence, but, you know, Roman's a big, big strong dude, man, some knees up the middle, fire some underhooks in there. I don't know. I wouldn't bet on this one, to be honest, personally, but that's how it goes for me. No, death taxes and Vittory by decision. All right, all right. Unless he's fighting a disin you. The Italian dream. Get some lemon cello shots ready for when you celebrate your victory there, Jed.
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Starting point is 00:58:40 Visit bestwestern.com for complete terms and conditions. All right, that is the main card, five fights. I'm really much looking forward to this main card, especially the last two fights. The co-man and the main are going to be fantastic. But let's move on to the prelims. The featured prelim of the night, it is a featherweight bout.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Newly, anointed featherweight, newly, he moved up a weight division. Jack Shore is now a featherweight. He is taking on Makwan, Ameri, Mr. Fendlin. Right now you can get Jack Shore for minus 500. Machuan coming back at plus 400, the over under is set at one and a half over minus 160 under plus 130. Just keep it brief here for me.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I use Jack as a parlay piece. I really think he's just the better fighter wherever this goes. I think moving up to 45 is going to be good for him the way that him and his father have been talking in the media. It really seemed like he was struggling with those cuts to 35. And Makwan is essentially early submission threat. And if he doesn't get it, then he's, he's likely going to get beat on and eventually quit. And, I mean, just I respect Jack's ground game.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I mean, even if he gets taken down, he has a great get-up game. We saw it again in that team of a leave fight. And I know he got subbed by Ricky Simone, but that was more of a club and sub. Like, Ricky Simone is just a freak. Like, I was at that fight live and the way that he just body slam Jack Shore through the canvas. Like, he was nothing. Ricky Simone is a problem at 35. I don't think Machuan Americani presents the same issues to Jack Shore as as Ricky Simone did.
Starting point is 01:00:17 And I think Shore gets back in the winning column here. And I think he makes it look pretty convincing. I am failed. I know who you were picking. You own at least one Jack Shore shirt. I do own a Jack Shore. You know, Jack Shore Army, Team Tank. You knew where this was going.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Anyone who's undefeated. Pretty damning evidence on the darts thing yesterday. Don't know about all that, but we are still Team Tank over here. The darts thing's a bit sus, but that's neither here nor there. Yeah, I'll be interested to see how he looks at 145 because his, I know he had talked about it, but he didn't lose to Ricky Simone because he was cutting too much weight. He lost to Ricky Simone because they were not doing the same sport. One of those men is an incredible athlete and it's not Jack Shore.
Starting point is 01:01:05 He's a fine athlete. Ricky Simone was moving in a different sport. speed. Yeah. That's not going to be the case for Akon Amir Kani. He has six minutes of cardio, and he's not even like a massively high output fighter, which is weird. He just kind of gasses just to gas.
Starting point is 01:01:25 So even if Amir Kani has a good start, gets a good position, he's a good top position grappler, I don't think he can finish Shore. And then I think Shore's just going to take over. I have Jack Shore's a parley piece, and I also have made a note. that in general it's just worth to look at the live lines of a Makwan Amir-Kani fight because he has decent first rounds. And if that line gets a little closer, I will for sure be betting on Jack Shore, you know, between rounds one and two.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Yeah, I think I agree with both for you, really. I would definitely take Jack Shaw. You could put him in there for a palet piece as well. But, you know, I mean, Macon's very good at attacking the neck, you know? Jack wants to go. Yeah, I mean, he's a dangerous. I guarantee you there will be at least one moment of stress here. as me having a Jack Shore backer.
Starting point is 01:02:14 It's not going to just be like easy and clean. There's going to be one or two moments where you're like, all right, we're good, we're good. Okay, all right. Okay, we're good. Yeah, we're good. Like, that's, it's going to be, there's going to be like a dicey moment or two, but I think in the end, I think Jack Shore gets this done.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I mean, Lorone Murphy, like, I know Machuan is really nice with the subs. He is super slick. Ron Murphy doesn't have the greatest grappling in the world. And, like, he essentially, was in being dominated that entire first round and was able to survive it. I think Jack Shaw would be able to do the same, even if it does get rid. It runs a lot physically, like, you know, bigger than Jack, though, for sure. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Big, big strong guy. So, I mean, there's that to factor in as well. But I think, I think what Mac won one about his last five, you know, he's not really been having the best end to his career, I suppose. That's all right, though. He's, he's got enough going for him outside. One of the greatest tap-on and the ogles of all time. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:11 There you go. I've seen that. Oh, yeah, yeah, all time. Just a ridiculous tap-off, which has nothing to do with fighting. It's incredible. All right. Let's keep it rolling on the prelims here. It is a lightweight bout.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Chris Duncan taking on Omar Morales. I'll kick this one off, dude. I hope you do, because I have literally zero thoughts about this. Oh, dude. I don't know. I was going to say, dude, this is a fun fight. I don't know how much tape you did on this, but if you've got two minutes, just two simple minutes,
Starting point is 01:03:40 go and watch Chris Duncan, Charlie Campbell, on the Contender Series, because it is crazy. Chris Duncan gets dropped twice, and then he's up against the cage. He looks like he's going to get put out, and then he just throws a haymaker and just puts Charlie Campbell on his ass. It's one of those ones where the commentators are just, like, losing their shit throughout it.
Starting point is 01:03:58 I mean, he was on Contender Series before against Slava Clause, almost got put out at the end of the first round, then he just gets flattened in the second. like the dude comes to brawl he has no issue with getting hit like he's he got finished by slava claus but that's because slavaccahs like put him like removed him from his consciousness like he was completely out cold like he is a dog he is going to come in here and brawl and i think omar morales is probably going to engage with that like Omar morales is more technical he's more patient but going back and watching through the tape like he is not afraid to engage in the brawl and he will
Starting point is 01:04:33 throw haymakers like he looks to counter strike a lot which i think think he's going to find success against Charlie, against Chris Duncan here. I mean, that's how Slava Claus put him out, just with a beautiful counter left. I think he's going to find success. But I also can't trust Omar Morales, you know, two straight losses, got finished in both of them, he's 37 years old. I don't really know where he's at in his career. What I did like, I took the fight, doesn't go to a decision at minus 160. I think in front of this crowd making his UFC debut, Chris Duncan is going to.
Starting point is 01:05:06 do what he does and engage in a brawl. Like he's okay with getting hit, but he's going to hit you two and I think someone's going to get dropped. The one warning I will have for this, it could be one of those fights. If you take fight, it doesn't go to a decision. It could be one of those fights where it looks like it's going to get finished like eight to ten times throughout the three rounds and it's somehow last to a decision. You're sitting there, you're like, how did that go to a decision? Like, there is a world where that happens just because I watched back Chris Duncan versus he fought someone in between the Jonathan Carlos in between the Contender Series fights and like, dude, it looked like Carlos was going to get put out like
Starting point is 01:05:48 15 different times. I sat and watched the entire 15 minute fight and somehow it went to a decision. There's a world where that happens, but I don't think so. I think someone gets put out. I think this turns to a brawl and this is a really fun fight for the London fans. Yeah, I mean, I also feel like someone in the matchmaking theme likes Chris Duncan and trying to set him up for a nice debut here. You know, like Omar's the perfect guy, really. Guy's going to stand with you, a guy he's got a chance to knock out. I mean, there's, like he said, like he might take a few shots and might get put down again. We saw him get knocked out and nearly knocks out in every performance we've seen him, really at this point.
Starting point is 01:06:22 But that's also like a risk he kind of take with this guy in any fight you give him. So, yeah, I think it's just going to be a great fight. And, yeah, I would favor Duncan for sure. I mean, one thing going for Duncan here, if you were looking to play a side, and I see a lot of people playing Omar Morales, which I really do view this as a coin flip fight. Omar Morales doesn't have, like, insane power. He might put everything into his punches,
Starting point is 01:06:44 but like his knockout on contender series, I believe it was. Like, it was a TKO as TKO gets because he just essentially kicked dude's leg raw and he couldn't even stand on it. So he just, like, punched him out TKO. Like, it wasn't like he flattened him or anything. and like Chris Duncan gets dropped and he gets hit, but like you got to put the dude out. Like he,
Starting point is 01:07:05 you really got to, you got to knock him out to get him to quit. So like as much as he gets hit, the durability could be a weapon here for, for Chris Duncan, but at the end of the day, think it's a fun fight, think someone gets put out.
Starting point is 01:07:20 No notes, Jed? I, I watch his Eurotape on this because I came into this Connor trying to be more responsible and have fewer bets. And I was like, I'm just not even really going to take that much action on the undercard. I hope you watch the Chris Duncan Charlie Campbell fight while we were just O'Pining right there because that's as long as it takes. It's a minute 43 seconds.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I was piecing together a Scotland parlay to see how that's, to see how that goes. We got three Scottish fighters pays out at a healthy plus 3.78. I mean, I get some haggis. I actually favor. I actually like kind of low-key favor all three of those fighters. I know. You were selling about Casey on, and Chris Duncan.
Starting point is 01:08:08 I like the other two. But, Jed, you also have to remember. What's the other Scottish cuisine? I see it as a coinful of fight, i.e. why I'm not playing Duncan at like plus 100 right now. Instead, I'm taking the fight doesn't go.
Starting point is 01:08:19 What's rule number one is have fun? Scottish parley is fun. Some fish and chips. Be ready to go. I mean, I do love them more. I don't, I'm, I got haggis. That's all I got.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Yeah, I mean, you can have a weed brown. The ignorance of whiskey, you know, that's fine. Yeah, you could get some Scottish whiskey. I don't think I'm allowed. I don't think I'm allowed to be drinking whiskey while I'm coming to fights. All right. If you haven't watched it, go back and watch the Chris Duncan Charlie Campbell fight. You watch the Chris Duncan Charlie Campbell fight.
Starting point is 01:08:54 You will be excited for this fight. I can promise you that. I think this one's going to deliver. Let's keep it rolling though here on the prelims. Lightweight bout. Next up, Sam, London's very own, England's very own. I like some Sam.
Starting point is 01:09:06 He's good, man. Yeah. He's looking real good. Brave FC, got some good experience over there. He might be a sneaky guy to watch climb the rankings right here. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah, I think he's got some potential for sure.
Starting point is 01:09:18 He's taking on Yannal, Ashmov. He's a big favorite. Right now you can get him for minus 280 as I pull up the odds. Minus 265. Ashmoff coming back plus 225. Huge. Dude is huge for the lightweight division. Like 6'3 as a lightweight fighter.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Like, I mean the guy is giant. You're high on him. You're excited to watch his rise in the rain. I mean, you know, that was good, man. Like, I like how it's, you should pay attention to the fact that he is above, like, Makayev on this card and a bunch of other UK fighters who have already had a ton of, like, UFC fights already. so they're also looking to promote him regardless.
Starting point is 01:10:02 But yeah, I mean, I feel like Sam can get this one done. The future is like a nickname, but it a lot of people have the future. I was going to say, I think he's like the ninth fighter in the UFC currently on the roster to be named the future. I honestly, like when I first looked at just like the size discrepancy, he's going to have a six inch height advantage and whatever the reach advantage is going to be, it's going to be there. I was like, oh, that could be interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Like, I wouldn't mind Sam Patterson as a parley piece. Went back and watched, like, his contender series fight. Don't love the striking. Like, he's a little bit, like, of an awkward striker. He doesn't have the greatest defense. Like, he did get his head, you know, whipped back a few times in that one. Where he thrives is the ground game. Like, he does have good grappling.
Starting point is 01:10:46 He's able to get a lot of submissions. And I was like, maybe, you know, all as a dog, when watched him, dude, there are quite a few fights where he is struggling in the ground game. I mean, I went back and watched his PFL Challenger series fight against Dennis Hughes. He pretty much got controlled the entire first round. CFFFC, Ryan Risko was just
Starting point is 01:11:05 finding a lot of success before getting knocked out on the ground. There's a real world where this goes to the ground and Sam Patterson just submits him. Ultimately, at the price, I decided to stay away. But I like that you're excited for him because now I'm more interested for it. I'll cheer for Sam Patterson,
Starting point is 01:11:22 but I'll watch cautiously. Anyone from London's fight, you know what I mean? They just, they did a good job of stacking a lot of dudes from the UK on this one. Yeah, I mean, I think 12 or 15. Wall to wall with future talent,
Starting point is 01:11:33 right here, you know, it's good. Jed, any thoughts on? We just have to put Patterson in a parlay, given Alex's confidence. I was like you.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I was like, I was like, eh. Don't put him in a parlay, dude. Come on, that's a. I'm not going to bet him straight at minus 265.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I mean, I mean, Jed, you can stay away from fights. You can just enjoy it. If you go, you just enjoy it. You're so.
Starting point is 01:11:55 You're so confident in it, though. And I was like, I watched a contender series, and I was like, I should just not bet on two guys coming in on their debuts. It just shouldn't, shouldn't do it. Like, in the dark, Patterson feels likely, but you're so confident it makes me want to be like, maybe this is the last time I get this price, you know? Maybe next time Patterson's not coming in. I have to quell this storm a little bit. I imagine this is not the last time you'll get minus 265 or better on Sam Patterson. He's the future, Conner.
Starting point is 01:12:25 There will be moments where he'll be in the minus 100s for sure. Fine, I'll be more responsible. I know he's for some good guys over in Brave as well. Like he wasn't fighting. He is like, yeah, yeah. His resume is not just a total bunch of money. Yeah, that's the thing about Brave man.
Starting point is 01:12:39 It's a good promotion. There's some good competition out there, you know. All right. So enjoy Sam Patterson and we will cautiously root for him to fly up the rankings in the UFC. Moving on to... Time to get into it. Some more. UK talent, I suppose. It is a men's flyway bout,
Starting point is 01:13:00 Mohamed Mahayev taking on Jafel Filo. Right now, you can have Muhammad Mahayev for the very short price of minus 800. Phelow coming back at plus 575. More importantly, the over under is set at two and a half under minus 145. Doesn't matter what the over is because it's not hitting. Alex, if you're new to the program, if you're if you're unaware of the, the doctrine of flyweight unders. Let me just update you on some stats. So, 2023, we are currently sitting at 7 and 0 in 125 pound UFC bouts.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Now, you might be like, what about Charles Johnson and O'Day Osborne? Catch weight of 130. I know it went to a decision, not a flyweight bout. What about that one road to UFC fight? Exactly my point. I was going to say, I remember, but you're not counting the road to the UFC fight. It was the road to the UFC. Anyway, the road to the UFC fight missed by 41 seconds.
Starting point is 01:14:01 It's still ended inside the distance. So I say that to say, we have yet to experience a flyweight under loss in this one. And I mean, why start now? Philo 14 of his 16 fights having gone to a decision. Mahayev, seven of his 10 have not. What do we think? Mahiyev's submission? I mean, he just finished Malcolm Gordon, who's a black belt, right? I mean, if you can tap, if you can tap anyone, you know. Unfortunately, he finished Malcolm Gordon at four minutes and 26 seconds of the third round. That is also true. That is true.
Starting point is 01:14:37 But that wasn't unfortunate because it was, if you remember, that was a one and a half. We were long dead. It's still unfortunate. You don't want to bet that. Yeah, for sure. I know, but you're thinking, unfortunately, like, man, we missed it by a minute. I'm thinking unfortunate the bet failed and I'd mention this at the top I'm I'm in the doctrine like I'm in this I'm in the boat like I can't get out of the boat so we're at sea and I'm
Starting point is 01:15:02 here I mean if you weren't I would I would think you were crazy at this point I'm in the boat coming into 2023 and they have I didn't doubt I asked a question and you had the same question I did you've doubted flyweight unders entering 2023 and they like quite literally have just smacked you across the face with winner after winter after winter I didn't doubt I took it every bet. I just asked the question. Did the magic hold up? It obviously has. I'm not, I'm, in the boat. I'm just saying there are few people in the sport, in the fandom of the sport, higher on Muhammad Makayev than I am. Like, I'm future champion. Like, but I've been saying it since day one. Beautiful. I would love to discuss this. Future champion. His last two fights have
Starting point is 01:15:45 me concerned that he might be an enemy of the flyweight understate. Okay, that's what I was going to say. Is the warrant currently out for Muhammad Muhammad's... He's a person of interest. He's a person of interest. I like that. Okay. He's a person of interest in the case because as...
Starting point is 01:16:02 I'll go ahead and jump to it. I'll go ahead and jump to it. He's an enemy of the state if this doesn't go under. If he doesn't, he is. A flyweight of his nation. And that's the thing. As high as I am on him, and I think he's going to win this fight out. I'm using him as a parlay piece at minus 800 because I think he's going to win.
Starting point is 01:16:19 He concerned me his last two fights because he doesn't, he hasn't shown a mean streak in the UFC. And you really got to have a mean streak to really ascend to the top level. But he's instead just been a positional control monster, which is good. He's only 21. There's plenty of time for that to develop. But it's the same thing with McKinsey Dern. Like she can control the shit out of you on the ground, but she's not doing any damage. She's not putting
Starting point is 01:16:47 you behind her in the count and so to speak. And so if she doesn't control you the whole way, it's a problem for him as he continues to climb with the ranks. If he doesn't frankly just strike more on the ground in dominant positions, I have a question about where he goes
Starting point is 01:17:03 ultimately. And even in this fight, like there's a world where this is just Charles Johnson redux where he gets to the back a bunch, but because he's not punishing Johnson, Johnson can play the Takashi Saito, I'm just going to protect my neck the whole time and we'll go to a decision, which would then make him a flyweight under enemy. I'm still taking the bet. I just have
Starting point is 01:17:25 concerns. I'm not going to lie. Like I will take this only to win a half unit just because of Muhammad Mahamahev being a person of interest under the nation of flyweight unders. And like, yeah, dude, like I don't really love him at minus 800 here coming off of a shoulder. surgery and yes you can't really say the last ones have like worried you because he's won every round like he was up 2018 in
Starting point is 01:17:55 the Gordon fight and he ended up finishing that he did beat Charles Johnson 3027 across all three scorecards but I guess it was just London last year the way that he finished I believe it was Cody Darden in such emphatic fashion so quickly like it just like
Starting point is 01:18:13 it feels like he has an impressive me enough to like I wish this was a minus 350 and then I'd be like I'd be shooting baskets of Muhammad Mahayev parlay piece minus 800 I don't like I don't love and I actually am kind of with you like to win a half unit on the under do you know how many strikes Mohammed Makaiev has landed in his total in three UFC bouts oh hey under a hundred by a mile under 100, not even in the neighborhood of 100. Whoa. Well, I mean, you have to give them like a little bit of a break because the first one was only
Starting point is 01:18:52 a minute long. But yeah, landing 12 strikes against Charles Johnson. He's landed 35 total strikes in three fights. Even taking into account that the first one was basically an insta sub, he still landed 33 strikes in two fights that went almost a full 10 minutes. Yeah. That's concerning. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:19:11 I'm with you. Like, yeah, dude, I mean, like, yes, people are landing less than a strike a minute on him throughout his career so far, but he is only landing 1.15 strikes per minute in the UFC. Like, that is, that is, like, erroneously, like, whatever the word is, I need a big word to describe how low that number really is. Like, that is ridiculously low. Now, granted, he's averaging almost nine takedowns per fight. but I'm with you, dude, if someone can start stuffing his takedowns
Starting point is 01:19:44 and he can't find success on the ground, like, I mean, Philo's dangerous, dude. Yeah, he's dangerous. He's dangerous. All 14 wins,
Starting point is 01:19:53 if I'm not mistaken or by finish, maybe he has one win by decision. Like, Subs and KOs. Gordon did have him in some sketchy areas in that last fight. And he, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:05 He takes risks as well, Theo. He takes risks as well, which might work for him, might work against him. I think it's going to be necessary in this fight. If you tweet Michael Mohammed that like his strike output, Jed, I literally think you'll light a fire enough under him to actually get out there because I feel like he wants to put on a show and wants to put on big performances and wants to like generate hype. And he did that in his debut. But like you said,
Starting point is 01:20:26 since then, it's not really been there. So just just rock the bow a little bit and rock the bow a little bit and he'll get out of it. He'll try and show something. Do you think there's a world where he has so much hype on him? He's like this huge process. aspect. Everyone, like, writing him in as a shoeing to become champion. He was 23 and O in his amateur career. Now he's eight, nine, whatever it is, uh, in his pro career. You think that he's just like, this is how I can win the fight. And I'm just going to do that. Don't care if it looks boring. Don't care if it looks sketched other people. It's what's going to get the job done. And that's why he like doesn't want to put on a show like just like let the strike and go or do you think he's just not
Starting point is 01:21:04 there in his game right now. I just think it's not there. Yeah, I think you're right, Jenna. I don't think he's there yet. He hasn't really had enough time to develop as an MMA fighter. And the problem is you have to be an MMA fighter to win world championships more than often. But you have to be there. And this is the time where he should be practicing and getting those kinds of opportunities to work on his striking in real time in real situations. But this is not a great guy to stand on the feet with and bang it out because he's dangerous. Yeah, I mean, Connor, even in his AMI career, I overwhelmed.
Starting point is 01:21:38 majority of those fights or decisions. He just, I don't think he's got the tools on the feet or, more importantly, just on the ground. Like, he just needs to punch on the ground instead of worrying so much about positional control because that will open up things a lot more for him.
Starting point is 01:21:56 But he's also 21, maybe he's 22 now. Certainly. He's plenty of time for this to develop. But there's a world. Like, this guy's going to win, be the youngest champion ever.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Just two years. Flyweight's soft. He could just get there. And now I'm like, that's not going to happen. And I think fans will start to like change their tone of, you know, no doubt he's going to become champion. Can't believe the hype on this guy. Yada, yada, yada. To more of like, when is this going to develop in his game?
Starting point is 01:22:28 If we continue to just see these sort of lay and pray decisions where he's not doing a ton, you know, fishing for submissions here and there, obviously, you know, two of his three wins in the UFC are by submission. But yeah, it felt like last year the Cody Dernan finished, that's when we were all like, this guy's a champ. So I put the belt around him. Last two. I'm very curious to see what happens in this one. Look, if you can submit Cody Durden,
Starting point is 01:22:53 you're probably the best flyweight in the world. I've always said that. Is that what we said? We've always said that. Atlanta's very own Cody Durdon. Shout out to him. At the top of that division is so the guys are so well-rounded. like Brandon Moreno so well-rounded for greater so well-rounded it's like you've got to have it all 100%.
Starting point is 01:23:12 100%. So an interesting one to watch out for. I've another fight on this card that I'm sneaky excited for. Next up, featherway bout short notice. Lorone Murphy taking on Gabriel Santos right now. You can have Lorone Murphy for the price of minus 165. Gabriel Santos coming back at plus 140. short notice for Santos, but I think he's going to be game. As long as like the travel doesn't affect him and he's good to go, if he's even, you know, 85% coming to this one, I think we're in for a great fight. An O has to go, right? And O's got to go, man.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Man, I mean, people probably won't know who Santos is, but he's very, very good. He just beat some legit guys. I've got my notes here, but Jose Delano, like, I know that guy was hyped. and in LFA as well, that's almost as good as it gets pre-UFC. Dude, they did it nasty too. Yeah. Ripp into the body. I love rips to the body.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Yeah. Dude, no. Santos was like at first glance, like I think when draft kings dropped these odds, Murphy was minus 1.35. And at first glance, I was just like, oh, I think I'm going to have to take that short-notice opponent. UFC debutante has to travel all the way to London to take this fight. And then I was like, let's see what Sansa is all about.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Like, yeah, I'm with you all, dude. I really think he's a dog. I mean, he's fought, like you just mentioned, like some high-level competition. He's got a win over Elvis Brenner who just won a UFC 283. Talk about going back and watching tape. If you just got 10 minutes, go back and watch the Duncan Contender Series, and then go watch round one of the Barbosa fight. Like, dude is a dog.
Starting point is 01:24:50 He got dropped bad, fought his way back into it and ends up getting an early second round finish. It was one of the best rounds in all of 2022. Like, he is a dog. And another thing, like, I'm not going to bet him just because of the short notice. I don't know fully where he's at. Not going to bet Murphy, though, because one area that Murphy does struggle with, as big and as strong he is and as, you know, competent of a striker he is, he does struggle in the ground game.
Starting point is 01:25:14 And we've seen Santos take it to the mat many times, especially to bail himself out of situations where he isn't as comfortable on the feet. A lot of people are pouring money on the Murphy. I am not near as confident. I hope it works out for them, especially in front of his home crowd and everything that he's gone through. But coming back from this bike crash, too, I was going to say that. Not fully sure where he's at. I think it's going to be a fantastic fight, dude.
Starting point is 01:25:39 I think it's going to be sick. And I think some people might be looking overlooking Gabriel Santos a little bit. I'm with you. I am not on it. If I'm betting, I'm betting Santos. I'm less concerned by the short notice. Honestly, he fought at the end of January, basically like a week before. who was
Starting point is 01:26:00 Lauren supposed to fight originally Lorone Nathaniel Wood Yeah Nathaniel Wood I was about to say Yeah very sad man That was such a great fight Yeah that fight wasn't great
Starting point is 01:26:10 But yeah He fought like a week before Wood pulled out So I have relative faith that he'll show up in shape And kind of prepared to do the thing I don't really want to bet against Lorone Murphy in London I don't know that just doesn't seem like
Starting point is 01:26:26 A This is just a fight that I'm just going to enjoy. Yeah, it seems like a way I should not fight bet. So if I'm betting, it's dog or pass, though. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's going to be an interesting one, dude. It's, it's always interesting when someone's, someone's always got to go.
Starting point is 01:26:40 I mean, this could be, could be the birth of a career for Santos. It's going to be fantastic fanfare to watch. Let's keep it rolling, though, on the prelims. Middleweight bout. CLD, baby. Christian Leroy Duncan getting in the cage against Dusko Todorovic. Right now, you can have CLD for minus 125, Totoovic coming. back at plus 175. Alex tell me, like, is there, is there real hype? I've seen it on the timeline
Starting point is 01:27:03 a little bit this week. Is there real hype for CLD's debut here? I mean, anyone coming from Cage Warriors, there's always hype behind it, just for anyone who pays attention to the English MMA scene, or if you're in England and you're an MMA fan, chances I watch Cage Royers. It's the biggest promotion we've got here. He was the champion. And, you know, seven and a note for most people that'll look at that and be like, oh, he doesn't seem like he's, you know, really ready. But he had a long amateur career, like 25 fights, something like that. And he thought a lot are good guys. He got a lot of good experience at amateur as well. So, yeah, I mean, we'll see how he does. You know, it's hard to tell because the step-up in competition is, is so evident once you
Starting point is 01:27:37 transition from Cage Warriors to the UFC. And we've seen former champions not always performed the way that we thought they were going to, but I think this is a great, great debut, great way to make you debut as well. So I'm excited. I'm excited for it. Yeah, I mean, for me personally, I did bet on Christian Leroy Duncan. I think this is a pretty good matchup for him. I mean, going back and watching some of his tape, dude. He's an exciting fighter. He, like you mentioned, how much experience he got on the amateur scene. He's been doing this for years.
Starting point is 01:28:05 I know he's still young, but he's just ever improving. And on the feet, dude, if he can keep this, like if he can keep, yes, dude, versatile, dynamic, always moving, has a toolbox of strikes that he can throw. And against the guy like Dusko, who doesn't move his head off the center line much, is very hitable, has been knocked out on several occasions. I'm not going to call him Cheney, but he has been forced to quit in a few fights. I mean, I think, I think CLD is going to have a lot of success throughout now. Obviously, when you watch the tape, you see the versatile striking.
Starting point is 01:28:39 You also have seen him get taken down a few times. And he has been controlled for the latter parts of rounds. And that's obviously concerned. But to go against that, even if DUSCO has success, CLD's got a great gas take on him. And I think he'll be able to wear through that. And I think eventually he's going to get DUSCO. go out of there. I think this is a good spot for him to debut, especially in front of this
Starting point is 01:29:00 English crowd. I like him here. I played a minus 178. Christian Leroy Duncan, to the move, baby. If you're talking about prospects coming out of Cage Warriors, he is definitely one of the best in the last few years, 100%. I mean, and Cage Warriors produces some damn good fighters. They're middleweight champion history. I've heard of one and two of them. They're former middleweight champions. That's a list of strong dudes. looking at it now, Martin Campman, Gaygard Musassi, Jack Hermanson, Jack Marshman, just Oscar Pia Shota, like a lot of guys who can scrap in there. I didn't bet it just because this is, I don't know if it's a step up.
Starting point is 01:29:39 It's probably a bit of a step up. They're not a huge one, but just everything else surrounding this kind of feels like I didn't need to get action down because Disco can surprise you sometimes. But a part of me is interested in a Chris Duncan parley. You've got Christian Leoy Duncan and Chris Duncan. I mean, how do you not parlay the two Chris Duncan's together, guys? Yeah, do the Chris Duncan parlay and then also do the former Cajun parlay. Do the Scotland Parlay and then also do the former Cage Warriors Champions Parlay.
Starting point is 01:30:11 I believe Jack Shore was also Cage Warriors' Chairman. I'm loving how this is going. Oh, yeah, was Joanne Wood? Maybe. I don't know. Oh, I'm not confident. Now you're getting a lot of crossover action here. Yeah, and Jaycheck was.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Maybe that's where I'm getting confused. She's my jays. She fought once in Cage Wars, but was never a Gage Wars champion. Molly McCann was the flyweight, and then Panny Keenzad and Rosie Sexton were former champions there. So look, I'm just saying, how often are you going to get a Chris Duncan parlay, you know? Never. You're literally never going to do that. This is the one time.
Starting point is 01:30:46 That common of a name. It's not that common of a name. I can't believe there's two on this car. Sure, I'll support you in that. Why not? You know, we're here. I'm just going to have like eight stupid parlay. You're going to end up with like 27 bets
Starting point is 01:30:58 and then you're going to be like, how did I end up down units again? Oh, no, I won't ask how I ended up down units. I'll know. All right, just a few more fights to get into here on UFC 286. Appreciate y'all tuning in. Appreciate our man Alex joining us here on No Betts Bard. Next up, we get another flyweight bout. Jake Hadley taking on Malcolm Gordon.
Starting point is 01:31:20 As aforementioned, Malcolm Gordon, we just talked about his fight with Muhammad Mahayev. Right now, Jake Hadley is a big. big favorite. He's coming in at minus 365. Malcolm Gordon coming back at plus 300. Tell me how you feel about this one, Jed, because I know he didn't get the same. Really? Really? That's interesting. Well, so there's a major difference right now. The line is over under one and a half. Oh, I mean, obviously, I'm waiting for the two and a half. There's no doubt. Okay. So if we're just waiting for the two and a half, I'd feel a lot better, frankly.
Starting point is 01:31:52 But one and a half, which is currently what D.K. has up. I don't feel any level of confidence. Yeah. No doubt. I mean, though I will say, Malcolm Gordon, 17 of was on notice.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Nah, no, no, no, that was Muhammad Mahia of luring him into that. That's why that didn't go under. Malcolm Gordon tried his hardest to do that for us.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Because 17 of his 20 pro fights, historically he's been very good. 11 first round finishes throughout his career. So, I mean, maybe that's why it said it the one or half. I will be playing the two and a half, no doubt.
Starting point is 01:32:23 I'm waiting on that line. So we can wait. Okay. I mean, Malcolm Gordon is just kind of like he's just a little bit of a wild fighter. He really has like no striking defense just going back and watching some of his fights. Like he gets hit quite a bit. Like people, people can jab through the hand defense at pretty much will. And like on the ground, yes, he's capable, but like he also either puts you in a bad position or can be put in a bad position.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Jake Hadley, if it stays on the feet, I think he's going to be able to outbox him and probably find the chin. and if it goes to the ground, I think one of them ends up getting a submission. I feel more confident in this one, under two and a half. I think they find the flyweight under force. In terms of money line, maybe wide on Hadley,
Starting point is 01:33:06 but I feel like he wins. I like the under two and a half. That's all I'm going to be playing here. Alex, your thoughts. I mean, I think if you've been following any of Jake's social media, he's looking absolutely shredded. He looks in the ridiculous shape.
Starting point is 01:33:18 It's crazy. I also love his style, just like Southport kickboxer just stalks you the whole fight and he'll kick your body, he'll work the hands up top. And like you said, he'll look for takedowns as well against the cage. That didn't really work out in his loss. He kind of got stuck where his game didn't work and didn't really have a way to change the game plan.
Starting point is 01:33:35 And against Gordon, like you said, he is a black belt, but he does get himself in some dangerous positions as well. I just want to say shout out to Jake as well, because I met Jake. All right, he came to our studio. He was a really nice guy. Shout out. Shut out. And I was like, this guy in a dick. This guy's lovely.
Starting point is 01:33:49 So I were like, you know, like. Pick of the week then. Pick of the week, Jake has. break down the narrative of that this guy's a dick because he was lovely so uh well i actually hadn't even heard that narrative so that that's been just put the bed immediately uh for me well the matchmakers the matchmakers didn't want to sign him you know uh sean shelby and uh what's his face mc main had on after contend series they didn't want to sign him because apparently he was a bit rude that's what but dana weren't having it mate so thoughts jude
Starting point is 01:34:19 Damn inside. Well, I mean, we really just covered, I already covered it. It's, I strongly suspect that Jake's can get the dub here. And historically, he's shown to be a very good finisher. At under two and a half, feel great about Flyway Under's under one and a half. A little sketchy. That's all right, man. Maybe sometimes you got to live sketchy.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Ah, no. We'll get the under two and a half line within a day. It doesn't feel like the spirit of it to me. I disagree. The linemakers want us to lose. We don't play by their rules. We play by our own. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:55 I like to play by other people's rules all the time, Connor. We'll see how I feel. What a life to live. You know? I am looking at. I am looking at Jake Hadley's IG right now. And yeah, dude. That's so when I wasn't talking is because Alex said,
Starting point is 01:35:11 I was like, let's go take a look. I mean, this picture of him in the sauna, like, might as well just be like a diagram of, like, the human muscles. like he's just, dude's probably 1% body fat right now. He's super committed to the sport as well. I know everybody is,
Starting point is 01:35:25 but like after talking to him, he is 100% locked in night. All right. Next up, it's Jed's third leg of the Scottish parlay. Joanne Wood taking Luana, Carolina right now. You can have Joanne Wood for minus 190.
Starting point is 01:35:39 Carolina coming back at plus 160. Thought about playing Joanne Wood just because there essentially is no threat of the takedown from Carolina and a fight that's just going to stay standing. Similar to Casey O'Neill, I guess it's just something about these Scottish fighters. I feel like Joanne Wood is just going to out-volume her to a decision win, and it's just that easy to get her hand raised. But at almost minus 200, she's lost four of her last five, I think.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Granted, all five, I believe, have fought for the belt in the last five years. The level of competition is like sky high. Yeah. I still just, I still just stayed away. I just don't want to get burnt lame minus 200 on Joy. That's how much people have been scared for better than Jojo, because she's so credential, but she's got a great moiety.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Yes. But she keeps filing herself in these fights where you feel like she should win, but she just doesn't. But like, what a change in competition. Didn't she just fight Grasso? And now she's fighting Caroleo. Santos, Lauren Murphy were her last three.
Starting point is 01:36:39 When she fought, when she fought Tyler Santos, like people, like she was like the dog of the week. people were like, wow, you're really parlaying up Tyler Santos. Like, Joanne Wood's going to be able to get this done. Like, obviously she didn't. But, like, that proves the, like, the change in narrative on Joanne Wood over the last, you know, two years, last 18 months.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Like, I think she gets it done. I will be cheering for her. You know, I think she's great anytime I see an interview with her. Yeah. Also, like, another thing that does kind of make it dicey, like, she is 37 and she's talking about, like, you know, maybe one or two fights left. it's kind of time to start wrapping this thing up. She got married. Maybe it's time to start focusing on a family.
Starting point is 01:37:19 Yeah, like cheering for Joanne Wood. I hope she gets it done. I think she likely does get it done. But I've got enough bets on this. There's some better spots that I like. Well, you've got to take into account the psychological damage that Carolina is going to be going through because her last fight, she was in that same arena, right? And she got a spilling elbow chaos. So this is honestly my favorite bet of last year.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Is this going to say this is like probably just. such a tailor matchup for Jojo. Just give her the girl that got chaos in London last year. Please, let's get Jojo a win. Everybody loves that. Like, I mean, currently it's still good, but. PTSD issue. If Jojo doesn't show spinning back fist in round three of this fight, I will consider it
Starting point is 01:38:00 a personal tragedy. You have to at least try. You did. You got to go for it. Just throw the back elbow. Plus, Molly's reach, if she got it in there, you know, you could believe Jojo can make it work. Yeah. Um, Connor that's smart.
Starting point is 01:38:14 I think you're not wrong just because John Wood has pulled defeat from the jaws of victory before. But this would be the worst loss of her career by a wide margin. Yeah, I think so too. Her last loss is for people who aren't looking at her Wikipedia page right now. Alexa Grasso, Tyler Satos, Lauren Murphy, Gina, from I, Caitlin Chukagi, and Cynthia Calvilla, Jessica, and Trudge. All of those women are top 10. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:44 I think everyone other than Cynthia Calvio has fought for the belt. Yeah, Calvia did. Yes. Calvio hasn't. And Calvio has fallen off in recent years. But there was a time when she was hot ship prospect before losing five or six or whatever she's at right now. So six of her last seven losses have been to title challengers. I want to Carolina is not that.
Starting point is 01:39:05 I definitely don't think that. She's, I can say very confidently, for whatever my confidence is worth, that this woman will never fight for a UFC title. This would definitely be the worst loss of the, of the wood generation. I don't know about the Calderwood generation, the Calderwood era, but of the wood era, this would
Starting point is 01:39:25 be far and away the worst. I think losing to Marina Moros is still a better loss than losing Dulhanna Carolina at this stage. It wouldn't totally surprise me, but Scotland Parlay, let's go. Also, over two and a half is another parley piece, just because... Yeah, I feel like that's a solid play there.
Starting point is 01:39:43 feels free almost. Unless Carolina goes to PTSD mode and just, you know, gets spending back fist again. Yeah, but she shows in the third round. Yeah, as long she does it in the third round, you know, then I'm okay with it. All right, two more to get into quickly. I don't have a ton on this one, but it is a lightweight bout. Jai Herbert, getting the fight once again in London going up against Ludovic Klein. Right now you can have Ludovic Klein as the favorite at minus 190,
Starting point is 01:40:11 Jai Herbert coming back at plus 160. I stayed away. I was leaning, Klein, but ultimately after watching some tape, like, Jai Herbert is a good striker. He's ranging,
Starting point is 01:40:22 and he's going to have a massive size advantage in this one. So, yeah, that just kind of scared me off of it. Just another fight that I think I'm just going to sit back and enjoy. Yeah, I mean, Jai's been training with Leon as well,
Starting point is 01:40:33 this whole camp. I mean, Jai was, when he came out of, of K. He was such a great prospect. So many people were hyped on him. And you can see why.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Like, He's so good. He's so dynamic. He's so accurate. He has all the tools, all the weapons. Like, his shot selection is really, really good. He just fights really good guys. And, like, you know, he gets finished in some of these, like, crazy fights.
Starting point is 01:40:54 So I think he's probably going to take this against Klein. Although Klein did just beat another Cage Warriors' champ, Mason Jones. So there's some hype there that was in London as well. So I don't know. It looked easy. Like, made it look kind of easy in that one. Yeah, I would take, I would take, yeah, I would take, yeah, for sure. Jai Herbert, former Cage Warriors champion.
Starting point is 01:41:12 if you want to keep working on the Cage Warriors champion, Parlo, yeah. You know, I don't, I just can't trust Jai Herbert with money. Like, he should win. I mean, do you remember when he was tuning up Ilya Tuporia? I was going to say there was a brief, there was a brief moment in time last March where Jai Herbert was about to take Ilya Taboria's O
Starting point is 01:41:32 in front of the London crowd. I feel like I could know this year, right? Like, that's a different weight class. He was going to do that as like a plus 450 underdog too. Yeah. But yeah, like, I remember watching that fight and being like, I was on Ilya Tupuria and I was like, I've made a terrible mistake. It's bad. I did the same exactly. And then Ilya reached down into the depths of hell and removed Jai Herbert from the Octagon.
Starting point is 01:41:59 And I can't get that image out of my head, frankly. So Ludovic Klein is not nearly as dangerous to fighters, Ilya, but he's scrappy, man. Man, scrappy. I just, I don't feel good enough about making a bet. I have way too many bets on this card already. What are we sitting at number wise? Oh, God. I have to count up. So I'll count and you can move us on to the next one.
Starting point is 01:42:21 All right, cool. Yeah, I mean, last thing on Jai Herbert, like it felt like there was a little bit of like residual effects from that knockout in the Kyle Nelson fight. Felt like he was a little more timid, a little more careful, which could end up being good for him in his fighting career.
Starting point is 01:42:40 But I'm curious to see what he looks like here against, line total count is uh there 24 pieces of action that's a fucking lot eight so there are two four-legged parlays which count into the 24 pieces of action uh the scy okay the scyllan parlay and the the chris duncan parlay also you know bringing their own and then uh 11 or 12 individuals i can't remember how that math worked out all right all right that's not as bad so like actual bet's placed is like 15 or 16 Yeah, I think it's not as bad as I thought it was. 24 bets would be just ridiculous. Yeah, 15 bets, but you know, individual pieces of action is 24.
Starting point is 01:43:22 I'm at nine bets and I'm not adding anymore. I'm done. I've done my tape study. I've done my research and I'm good to go on what I've got. So let's get in to the last fight we will discuss, but it is the first fight of the night. It is a women's flyweight bout. Veronica Hardy Macedo recently married to Dan Hardy taking on Juliana Miller, the sweetheart from Tough last year.
Starting point is 01:43:51 It felt like, you know, she grafts all the fans up right afterward. And, you know, she's kind of been off the radar. This will maybe be a reminder to a lot of those people. She's a very interesting character. I'm honestly looking forward to this. Like, I think this is a nice little way to start out the card. Oh, yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 01:44:10 or like she, dude, she pushes the pace and she looks for finishes. Like she does not come in here to like win by decision. She, she like, she's not the greatest striker, like kind of awkward on the feet, but like she will get it to the ground. And once she's in the ground, it feels like every fight that I watched of hers, at some point, if not multiple points throughout the fight, she has full mount and she's just throwing elbows, trying to get chokes. Like she's, she is a, she hunts for finishes.
Starting point is 01:44:36 And I, and I have to appreciate that, especially in the women's flyweight division. on the other's hand, which could end up being, you know, the way this fight goes. I mean, Hardy hasn't fought in three years. Can't say that it means that much, but like on her Instagram, it doesn't look like it looks like she's just been working as an analyst. It feels like the fighting part is sort of like a part-time job for her right now. That could be her downfall. Like, I mean, this could be Julianna Miller just kind of like running through her.
Starting point is 01:45:10 At the end of the day, here's what I went with. I think this fight hits the mat for sure. Like, no doubt. We've seen Meseido struggle off her back, but we've also seen her throw up crazy submissions against Pollyanna-Viana. I think this fight does not go to a decision. That's what I played. I played it at minus 1-15.
Starting point is 01:45:28 Three of Mesaido's five UFC fights didn't go to a decision, and four of Miller's professional fights, if you're counting the tough ones, didn't go to a decision. I think that's a fair price. I think Miller is going to push the pace. I think there's a real world where Macedo just isn't really that prepared for this and Miller gets it done. Yeah, I'm kind of rambling at this point, but fight doesn't go to the decision. That's what I'm going with.
Starting point is 01:45:52 I mean, you talk about looking at their Instagrams. I mean, like, Killer Miller, her Instagram, she's just nonstop training picks. It's her life. Doing seminars. She's all over the place, and she's been doing grappling tournaments when she's not been, like, training from Mayfights. Like, she is, her ceiling for growth is pretty big, man. And there's like the size of her as well at that division. I've got some belief in Killer Miller right here.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Like I think she's going to give her two, three years. She might be making a way up to the top 15 and we'll see what she can do from there. But yeah, I like Hillamiller. She's, she's good. After the end of that season and where she won as well, it was very impressive. So, yeah, it's going to be tough for Veronica. I don't think, I think she's only got one win in the UFC. Yeah, she's won for it.
Starting point is 01:46:34 So reality of the situation, I mean, tough competition as well. But like you said, I think she's better off her back. then most people would maybe think based on her performances. I know she's a great grappler. So we'll see. I'm sure she has been training. You know, I know she's been doing countless work,
Starting point is 01:46:47 but I'm sure she's been in the gym as well. Like it's also her life, but maybe in a different kind of a way. But I'm sure that's all she's been doing is going to the gym as well. So we'll see. I would definitely lean towards Miller in this one for sure. Yeah, I don't have much to add to y'all here.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Seems pretty obvious that Miller should win this one. I mean, on top of just if they, if Hardy had been fighting regularly, I'd still feel stylistically she should lose this fight. Three-year layoff, I can't possibly believe in her. I just didn't bet it because as Ravardi established, I have a lot of bets and didn't need any more. But, yeah, I think Miller should win this and probably get that finish. Yeah, I mean, I like, I know.
Starting point is 01:47:36 playing minus 450 on an inexpe, a woman who has three professional fights to her record, uh, like feels unjustified. But I think this price might be justified. Like I, I think there's a world where, where Miller makes this a bad night at the office for, uh, for Macedo Hardy. Uh, plus, like, if we really want to get 10 foil hat, get deep into it. Gillian Robertson submitted, uh, you know, Veronica Hardy, Killer Miller's latest Instagram posts. Gillian Robertson in the comments seems like they're good friends you know maybe gave her some tips
Starting point is 01:48:09 could see the same thing happens Julian Robertson says the most submissions in women's Well she's nasty on the ground She has the most nasty on the ground Yeah But yeah I think it's
Starting point is 01:48:20 I think it's like you said I think the ceiling is high For Juliana Miller if she's putting in the work And it certainly looks like she is So I'm going to go with her to get it done And I think she gets it done by finish I took fight doesn't go
Starting point is 01:48:32 Just to defend myself from Macedo getting a submission as well. I think that's also a possibility because it's not out of the realm of possibilities that Miller puts herself in a bad situation because she did once or twice in her previous fights. Boom. And that's it. We did it, fellas. UFC 286, the O2 Arena, London, England. Alex, thank you so much for joining us. Before you go, any tips, any, I'm getting English breakfast on Saturday morning. That's become a tradition for me on these UFC London cards.
Starting point is 01:49:05 Let me, let me just, let me get your approval or your rejection. This is what I've ordered. We, we do a watch party for MMA fighting as well. I got some snacks.
Starting point is 01:49:16 So I got Walkers, prawn cocktail crisps. They are just lays, by the way. They just rebrand. I mean, yeah, like it's the most ridiculous thing ever.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Like, at least change up the logo, just a touch. Like, it's, yeah. But I figured I'd try that. Some Percy Pig gummies. Sure.
Starting point is 01:49:32 I mean, I'm not really, big fan of sweets, as we call them, or sweeties. But, yeah, person picks not a bad one. Perfect. It's not a couple of here, right? There we go, yeah. Yeah, a couple of other sweets.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Maltzers? Maltesers. Maltesers. Yeah, those are lovely. Those are a good choice. They are lovely. They are lovely, Jed. You mother fuck.
Starting point is 01:49:53 I'm looking forward to those. Oh, yeah. Jamie Dodgers. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Yeah. Jammy Dodgers are fantastic, yeah. And then last one.
Starting point is 01:50:03 one, Walker's, mega monster crunch, or mega monster munch pickled onion flavor. Yeah, yeah. So, like, this is the thing about England, right? Because, like, you guys,
Starting point is 01:50:15 obviously, we say biscuits instead of cookies. Yeah. Okay, yeah. A jammy dodger. Well, this applies for chips as well in a second. A jamming dodger isn't, it's not a cookie. Like, that's a biscuit.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Like, cookies are cookies over here. You can buy cookies. They're the same as American cookies, but there's a vast spectrum of biscuits. So Jamry Dodger is a biscuit or a cookie. And the same thing with Monster Munch. Like, Monster Munch, you cannot call them chips. Like, they are weirdly shaped, crispy, crunchy, pickled onion-flavored, like, things that kind of flaking in the mouth.
Starting point is 01:50:46 They're crisps, right? The crisps, right? So it's like, we have chips and we have cookies, but they stay in their lane, biscuits and crisps of the spectrum. I don't love it. We call Monster Munch's chips either. I mean, you probably would just because it's a broad category. but I'm looking at the now because I wanted after he's just like yeah it's like what do you call him
Starting point is 01:51:07 it kind of looks like a pork rind frankly yeah yeah I get pork rinds and it's kind of like it's kind of like a chito in terms of like the the texture when you buy it okay all right yeah I'm looking forward to it it's an aerated crisp the jambi dodger like we would describe that like just off glancing at it as like a shortbread cookie like that's right cookie with jam in is exactly what that is. But we have short bread, right? And that's short, like, proper short bread. So, like, you can't say, like, a shortbread cookie because, like, that is not a shortbread.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Okay. All right. I can't wait to try it. Really looking for a gym. Jamie Dodgers. Look like I could, I could fuck with the Jamie. Oh, yeah. The Jabba Dodgers are good.
Starting point is 01:51:48 But is this for your breakfast? Is that what you're having? No, no, no. So this is, I will eat these on the watch party and, like, just live react. Like, this is, like, what I think of them. And, uh, yeah. The breakfast itself, though, I'm actually, I'm becoming a little bit of a vet now. This will be, this will be my third one.
Starting point is 01:52:07 Love black pudding. I like it way more than I thought. I'm actually not as big of a beans guy as I expected. Like, don't really like the beans. What kind of beans you got to interrupt? What kind of beans you get in there? Typically the Heinz. Right, okay.
Starting point is 01:52:24 And you got those over there right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because American beans are like pork flavor barbecue. Yeah, no, no, no. It's the typical beans. I don't know why it's just like it's the texture and the flavor mixed with like because beyond the beans, like it's mostly a traditional like it's similar to a traditional American breakfast. For sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:41 So like it's almost like I'm having a normal breakfast and then there's just beans in it. And it's like, oh, this is kind of weird. Yeah, I could get away. You would have beans and pancakes, you know? Exactly. But like deep pancakes with all the rest of it. So I don't know. Love the, I love tea.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Like I love the tea. I, first time I did this, yep, I posted with tea without any milk, and I just got flamed. People were like, you have to put milk in the tea, dude. What are you doing? It's true. Oh, no, it's actually pretty good, Jed. It's good. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:53:11 It's just, I don't need it. How are we eating this breakfast, by the way, Conn? This is specific, because I used to work with study abroad students when they came to London. That was like my first job at London, like, taking them on excursions and stuff. And I would take them to dinner a lot. And a lot of Americans, if they get, you know, a meal, they would eat one thing at a time. And in England, you get like a little bit of everything. No, so like I'll go like, I'll get some eggs in.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Like, I'll go one bite where it's like a little bit of eggs, a little bit of tomato, maybe a mushroom. Then like, you know, add in some some black pudding. Like when I'm going through this, this isn't like polite etiquette eating. Like I'm just, I'm scarfing it down. That's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to mix it all up because like to eat all the bacon and then eat all the eggs and then you're just being weird. No, that's not my style.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Yeah, I think actually for the first time I'm going to go. I'm going to say hold the beans. I know some people might get offended, but I think I'm going to go hold the beans just for my own. Have you got any tomato in there? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the roasted tomato. Yeah, like grilled. You know, you stick it on the pan.
Starting point is 01:54:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do some tomato instead of beans, maybe. That's good. Yeah, so I cooked one myself. Actually, I had a ton of help for my girlfriend, who was actually a very good cook. And it ended up pretty well. Like, I got some pretty good reviews on it.
Starting point is 01:54:23 It is a lot. There's like a lot that goes into it. Like, it's not really like a simple, you know, thing that you just make at your house. So you got to have a few pans going. So I went out for the last one. And very much enjoyed going out. It feels like an authentic. It's called T and Sympathy.
Starting point is 01:54:42 It feels authentic going in there. I don't know if it is or not. You could probably be a much better, like it's, you know, like, it's really not like. There's just a lot of ingredients. I think that might be my biggest complaint. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Also, I didn't know where to find black pudding in this place served black pudding.
Starting point is 01:54:57 I mean, like, I don't think anyone really buys black pudding and cooks it at home. Like, usually that's if you go out to a cafe or a greasy spoon, as we call them sometimes. Oh, nice. I have heard that. Okay, you've had that. Any other wrecks, any other, you know, English culture wrecks. What beer are you drinking? Are you drinking any English beer?
Starting point is 01:55:17 No, I have not, no beer just because I'm, like, technically on the job. Okay. Any drinks, any English drinks. That's not how we do the podcast to watch a log at every moment. point. We do not do it like that. I mean, you could go, I mean, there's some nice English IPAs if you're into that. Or you could do something that's like a brew dog or something right now. That's a Scottish brewing company, but they've kind of swept the nation as well. So we just got one right next to me. That place sucks ass. What's it called? Brew dog.
Starting point is 01:55:45 Oh, wow. Yeah. They put one on the belt line like right next to me, Connor. And I went and I thought it was just like a cool brewery and instead it just sucked ass. Do you remember what you had to drink? I don't remember. All of the beer was very mediocre and the food was also very mediocre. Wow, look at this one. Hating on the recommendation.
Starting point is 01:56:06 There we go. That's fine. I would expect Alex to hate on the chain restaurants of America too. If Applebee shows up next door, don't fucking go. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I like, you know, Sonic. pretty good. I've been to a sonical tea, you know, that's
Starting point is 01:56:23 a... Oh, Sonic isn't bad, dude. I don't have the cherry limeade, right? Yeah, now we're talking. Lymades are okay. Any non-alcoholic beverages, you recommend Oh, blimey. I mean,
Starting point is 01:56:36 you'd have to drink tea, where else are you going to drink? I wouldn't drink tea. I mean, yeah, not really, no. All right. Well, I think that'll do it. I think that puts a nice bow on UFC 286. Leon Edwards, Mara Lusman 3 at the O2 Arena in beautiful London, England.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Alex, thank you so much for joining us, man. I mean, this has been fantastic. They can follow you on Twitter at Ballion. Alien underscore plays. Yeah, that's right. Balian underscore plays. That's B-A-Y-L-I-U-N-U-N-U-N-Score plays. You can find a lot of his work on it.
Starting point is 01:57:11 We'll have the link in the description. M-M-A-on-Point, UFC sports commentator. And this weekend, on the UFC's watch-along. You can find him there as. well. It's been fantastic, man. Thanks so much for joining us. For our other listeners, UFC San Antonio, San Antonio next week. We'll be back with that one. Until then, enjoy UFC 286. Peace. Love y'all.

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