MMA Fighting - No Bets Barred: Closing Out 2025 With UFC Vegas 112 And PFL Europe
Episode Date: December 10, 2025The final UFC event of 2025 is upon us. This Saturday, UFC Vegas 112 takes place at the world's mightiest APEX, the final UFC event of 2025. On top of that, there's a PFL card with weekend with a cou...ple of marquee fights, so No Bets Barred is here to break it all down for the last time this year. This week, host Jed Meshew flies solo to look at UFC Vegas 112 and PFL Eruope. Topics discussed include whether Brandon Royval will actually fight Manel Kape, if the Giga Chikadze vs. Kevin Vallejos fight is a true "so-main event," some undercard gems from the UFC, the massive favorites at PFL Europe, the fall from The Climb at UFC 323, and more. Tune in for episode 145 of No Bets Barred. Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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What is up, y'all?
We are back for another edition of No Betts Bar.
My name is Jed Mishu, in case you are new here.
And this week, we are talking about the final UFC event of the year.
That is right.
2025 is coming to a close, ladies and gentlemen.
And I wouldn't say it's ending with a bang.
This is UFC Vegas 112 that goes down.
We are back in the apex for the final time this year.
Though there is also just a touch, a scoche here of other activity.
PFL, Europe finals is going down.
And while most of that is not interesting,
I'm going to throw just the garbage-y parlay on it on the main two fights for funzies.
So we'll talk about those as well.
but no guess this week
you probably figured that out already
briefly considered getting someone on
and then I didn't want to do that to them
despite the fact that this card has a little more interest
than maybe your average apex card
it's certainly a come down from the heights of 323
and what we just experienced
though I experienced a bad time
UFC 323
another losing weekend
just a horrific year for me
it's so bad that I've considered
doing something incredibly silly
and just going all in to try and get back to even
but if I lost that
which based on recent trends suggest I would
then I'd be doubly in the hole
and eventually I don't have the bank account
to keep doubling down until I can
you know get back to nothing
so not doing that we rock on
not only though did we have another
losing week, we tragically also lost version 9 of the climb. That is right, we were six
steps up the mountain and, you know, on step seven, footing slipped and we fell. We backed
Moravd Válezvili, and that felt good at the time. And who could, who could have foreseen
Peoria putting on an all-timer performance? Because a sensational effort from him,
obviously. Unless you are Al Jermaine Sterling, you do not believe Marob de Valle's
really won that fight. And so we start back from scratch. And we won't start back this year.
Frankly, I mean, I could have climbed PFL realistically. There are a couple of things over there
that, like, wouldn't be bad. But I think maybe I'll change my mind. If so, I'll tweet out,
you know, I'll tweet out the slips. But I think we're probably just going to take,
We've got a long break ahead of us.
The next UFC event won't be until January 24th.
So, you know, six weeks to get back in the gym, get a little better, just improve and come back for 2026 and try and climb that mountain.
30 up, baby.
We're going to do it.
It may take us forever, but we are going to do it.
So let's dive into this weekend's events.
And we will do PFL at the end because I'm only going to talk about the two top fights there.
And let's just go right in to UFC Vegas 112, which is allegedly headlined by a flyweight contest between Brandon Royval and Manel Kopp.
I say allegedly because these guys get booked to fight each other all the time.
And all the time, that fight fails to happen.
Will it happen this time?
We'll see.
We'll see.
You know, at the time we're recording this, we're into fight week and it hasn't been canceled, but that can change.
as things stand though should they face off menel cop will be a significant betting favorite minus
295 to come back on roeval plus 245 um boyval you know bit of an up and down stretch lately he
obviously was the number one contender earlier this year lost to josh van at uc 317 that's
newly crowned champion josh van despite the weirdness of how it happened he is your flyweight
champion uh cop in a much better run he has four and one over his past five contests his
loan loss there being unanimous decision to mohamahev who many people believed he defeated
uh he's on a two-fight win streak right now he t-khaed asuhamabai back in march um you know
looking at the betting trends of this one i will say i think that this is too big of a line
Menel Cop probably just shouldn't be this big a betting favorite over Brandon Ravall.
Rival is five and four as an underdog too, so, you know, some credence to the fact that Vegas maybe gets him wrong a lot.
Cop six and one is a betting favorite, though, so they do seem to have him line pretty well.
I will just say that outside, like both statistically and logically, this feels competitive.
I would favor Cop to win this.
I think he is the cleaner, more effective striker, and that is,
primarily where this fight will, you know, be engaged.
But cop's also a bit of a crazy person, you know,
sometimes things just fall apart.
Royval is so spirited.
Like he's such a dog.
He absolutely can compete on the feet, even though I think he will lose.
He is not a sitting duck there.
He can also mix and takedowns as, you know, I don't,
it'll be tough.
Cops very good defensively in that regard.
But, you know, there are opportunities for Brandon Royval to make this closer.
If you want to look at something like a point spread bet,
let's pull that up right now because I hadn't looked it up.
So the point spread bet right now is Roy Vallette plus 9.5 is even money, basically.
It's minus 105 for plus 9.5 points.
That's really suggesting that Cops either going to get him out of there
or he's going to win a pretty wide margin here on the scorecards, you know.
And I, straight up, like, I like a point spread play on Brenno Reval.
I'm debating whether I'm going to double up, because I'm just going to take him as an underdog at plus 245 as well.
I just think the line's too far off.
But that point spread bet also looks enticing, right?
Because he wins a couple of rounds there and makes this real close.
And it's, I mean, if he wins two, if he wins the fight, obviously, you cash, it wins two rounds.
you cash he wins three rounds or uh he wins one round what's that right 49 46 is across the board
yeah wins one round you cash so um i really like that rovall point spread bet i'm probably going to
end up doubling up because yeah man like brand of revol can at least win one round in this fight
so minus 105 i like that i like an underdog play on rovall as well in honor of my dear friend
to Alexander K. Lee, I don't think I'll call this a co-main event. Personally, I would love to,
but this feels more like a penultimate fight to me. It's a featherweight contest as Giga Chikaze takes
on Kevin Vallejos. Vallejos, big betting favorite as well. Right around minus 300, the comeback on
Chikaze plus 240. Giga is on a two-fight losing streak lost to David O'Nama back in April.
Vallejos, two-fight win streak in the UFC. It's only two fights in.
the UFC coming off contender series.
He beat Danny Silva, the unanimous decision, back in August.
A couple of things to note from the betting trends as well.
Giga, also very successful as an underdog, four and two as a dog.
Vallejo's only two USC fights.
He won them both.
He was favorites in both of them.
For those who are longtime listeners, they know I love Kevin Vallejo, so super
high on him coming off contender series.
The thing I always say is before Diego Lopez, Kevin Vallejo,
is the guy who gave Jean Silva the most difficult fight.
He and Jean Silva had a very competitive fight in Contender Series two seasons ago, three
seasons ago now, I guess.
And we've seen what Jean Silva has become in the UFC.
Vallejos is super young, incredibly talented.
This is a guy, I believe, in quite a bit.
That being said, I am a bit concerned with the breadth of the line here because Kevin
Vallejos is a small featherweight.
he is 5-7 and he might ultimately be a bantam weight um he's certainly thick but he's he's a bit
small here and giga giga is is not a small man right and so you know i'm not saying
valetos needs to drop down obviously ilia teporeos a 5-7 bantam weight but he is going to be
significantly small in the giga chikaze coming into this and while he does have great terrific boxing
he's honestly he is
Ilya-esque Kevin Vallejo's
terrific boxing
didn't quite have that same power
that the Tuporia has
and he can probably just make this tough
by being big
Maylon kicking him a bunch
I don't know if I'm
I ultimately like
my head says you should take an underdog
play on Chicadez I'm not going to do
that though just because
Vallejos is my boy and you should always back your boys
so I'm ultimately just going to pass on this
but if I was being totally truthful and honest
I would say Chikaze has some value
despite the two-fight losing streak
despite the fact that he's clearly getting older
he has some physical advantages here
that we've yet to see Vallejos truly navigate
and you know I think he can
but this fight can be close
you know what I didn't actually even look at this
let's see if we've got point spreads up on this
We do have point spreads up on this, and Chikaze is a plus 5.5 point spread for minus 125.
So basically, clean sweep on the cards versus not.
Is Giga going to win the full bore on the cards?
Or is Giga going to win a round on the cards?
I guess DeBlehio is going to win the full thing on the cards.
Honestly, actually, maybe I would do that.
Giga just has to win one round.
I actually like that better than a gigabet
Gigabet straight up.
Like the plus 5.5 that you can get out there
I think that's a little bit better value
because I do think Gigga's going to lose his fight
but he can certainly win around in this contest
and he's just got our hope that way this doesn't finish him
and he might but you know
we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
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Seizek takes on Sezar Almeida in a middleweight contest plus 180 for Almeida minus 224 Olexeychik.
Almeida's 3 and 1 in the UFC.
Split decision loss to Roman Koppelov, so not a bad loss there.
And he's coming off that knockout win over Abdul Razak al-Hassan back in January.
Oleg Seychic, he's making his debut.
He came off the Condender Series.
He is, I believe, younger, but he is the brother of Mikhail O'Ixac.
and, you know, a decent little prospect.
I graded him three stars coming off Contender Series.
He basically fights a lot like his brother, only maybe a little bit more polished.
And so it's why he's only three stars.
McKello, Cessich's been in the UFC forever.
Doesn't seem like he's leaving the UFC anytime soon,
but he's yet to really make a real run, probably won't.
You know, at best is a fringe top 15 guy that's sort of where I see Cesari.
Almeda, I don't know what I'd envision for him.
but this kind of feels pretty evenly matched, frankly, like this line is, I mean, maybe, maybe it should be closer.
You could convince me an underdog shot on Almeda is okay here, but I really want to do that.
I think my best read on this fight is that it's going to be a bit rock'em-sockomy.
They're going to come in, they're going to throw hands, one guy's going to fall over,
and the under two and a half is minus 180, so that's where I am on this fight.
breezing down the line to the featherweight division for melchiesel costa taking on morgan charier a fight that i used would have cared a lot more about had my fantasy roster not already lost to mike heck congratulations mike heck the fantasy winner for season three technically but season two of 2025 uh this fight is a stone cold pick or minus one tens on either side you maybe find a little bit different depending on your book but we're looking at a very evenly lined fight
and a very even fight, frankly.
Costa's on a four-fight winning streak.
unanimous decision win over Julian Arosa in May.
Sharié, three and two in the promotion.
Knocked out Nate Landre back in July.
I think that was at the Parisho.
And it's hard for me to pick this fight.
I think Shariah is the cleaner striker.
I would be backing him in general because he's on my fantasy team.
But, you know, Costa is probably a little bit more dynamic threat.
Charier also takes people down.
I think this fight, my honest opinion is this fight is just totally correctly lined.
And so, you know, I'm going to throw a bet on Charié just for my personal funzies.
But I don't think I support that for others.
You know, it's not bad.
You're not getting net bad value.
You're getting Stone Cold Even value.
And so it's fine.
But yeah, I'm doing it for me just because, you know, support the guy on my fantasy team.
man, I don't have a ton of action on this card.
Just spice things up.
Let's have a little bit more fun as we're getting, you know,
this fight should be like 10.30 on Saturday night.
Give me a reason to be alive for it.
And we move to the final main card fight as Kennedy and Zuchuku,
aka Kenny Nunchucks takes on Marcus Bucccecha.
Another closely lined fight, Nunchucks, minus 130 Buccecha,
plus 110 for the grappling savant.
Kenny Nunchucks is two and one since he moved up to heavyweight.
Did lose his last one, though.
Got heel hooked by Volta Valker in July.
Can we hold that against him?
Everybody gets heel hooked by Volta Valker.
No shame in that loss.
Marcus Bucccia, maybe a little bit of shame in his.
He lost his U.S. debut to Martin Boudai earlier this year.
Something to note from a betting trend's perspective.
Canadian Inzuchuku is 6 and 5 as a betting favorite.
that is bad that is bad bad uh and he could come to 500 right now like marcus
buchetia could absolutely uh square this up i mean if look if walter valker can heel hook you i'm
going to guess all world grappler buchetia could probably find a way to heel hook you
that being said i mean buchatia is not very good he's not bad but he's not good and
And Zuchu has historically had good takedown defense.
He can hit.
You know, Bouchetch has never been knocked out.
It's hard.
Kennedy just sort of fails every time you think maybe he's going to put it together.
He's got talent, not enough talent to overcome his many deficiencies.
I am debating the Bucccecha bet is what's happening here.
Because I don't even like it over under because there's absolutely a world where Kennedy just avoids him at all cost.
Um, Buchetia's never been knocked out. So I don't know. I think I'm going to end up betting
Buccecha for again, just to feel alive. 10 p.m. start time. Let's let's end 20, 25. It's been a porously
terrible year. Let's have some fun. So I think I'm going to bet Buccecha. Um, maybe he'll hook him.
I don't know. This is a, this is a wonky heavyweight fight though, which is pretty fun. Um,
the heavyweight bouts on this card are very silly. And so,
So, well, one of them I don't know anything about.
But two of them, very silly, and so I'm at least kind of interested in them.
We moved to the prelims, and I don't actually know of the bout order here because this fight got announced yesterday.
And we're not going to really talk about it because I don't have anything to say, but I do just want to put it out there.
King Green is now fighting Lance Gibson.
I genuinely think this fight was announced Monday, maybe Tuesday.
Like, it's, you know, it's right in there.
He is a, you know, betting favorite minus 2.30 to come back on give him.
It's plus 190.
Two-fight skid for Green.
He lost a ruffie back in March.
Gibson's making his debut.
He's fought in some other places.
I don't have any thoughts because this fight got announced super short, didn't do any research.
In general, I think King Green's a better fighter than Lance Gibson, but he's definitely on the decline.
I would avoid this one.
I also don't even know why this fight got booked.
It's not, to the best of my knowledge, a replacement fight.
It just got booked.
It's a catchweight bout, even, at 160 pounds, I'm assuming because of the short notice.
Amanda Lim, you know, maybe, honestly, maybe the answer is just King Green was like, oh, it's about to be Christmas.
Let me call the UFC, see if they'll give me a fight, and they said, yeah, sure, why not?
So we move on to a really, really quality fight, frankly, on the prelims.
I don't know why this is on the prelims.
This is top 15 ranked straw weights, but UFC going USC, I suppose.
There are a couple of prelim fights that should be up on this main card over.
And this is one of them.
Amanda Limos takes on Jillian Robertson, Robertson minus 185.
They come back on Limous around plus 160.
Limmer's been alternating wins and losses for her past six fights.
The most recent was a loss, a unanimous decision to Tatiana Suarez in September
in one of the worst fights of the year.
Robertson, conversely, four-fight win streak.
putting it together right now, making a legitimate run up straw weight.
Arguably, prior to Zhang losing to Valentina Shepchenko and likely returning,
Robertson might have gotten a title fight with a win here.
Now that's probably unlikely, though I won't say it's impossible.
She T-Ked Marina Rodriguez back in May.
This is a competitive fight.
You know, Limosha's 4 and 5 as a dog for a reason.
she she cashes some tickets when Vegas underestimates her
and they're underestimating her here
and she's got a path, right?
Historically, Robertson is a much better wrestler and grappler
and so that should carry the day and I do think it will
but we did see Limosch stuff a lot of Tatiana Suarez's takedowns
and Suarez is a better wrestler than Robertson,
not nearly the controller, dangerous grappler,
but a better wrestler, certainly more physical.
And Limosh really dialed it up
and improve that.
So if she comes out
and can stuff
a lot of Robertson takedowns,
this fight gets very,
very competitive very quickly.
I'm still just going,
I think this line is right.
I think Robertson should be
a slight betting favorite.
So, you know,
I'm ultimately avoiding this fight.
I think you could look at the overs here,
but I don't,
just didn't want to do that
because Robertson can be dangerous.
We've seen Limers get submitted before.
I don't feel massively confident.
in the lines you're getting but really competitive fight very interesting for the straw
weight division i'm looking forward to this one i was looking forward to you anderson brito
versus melsick bagdasarian but that fight is no longer happening instead uh bagdasarian is out
and brito is taking on a guy named isaac thompson an alpha male product making his debut
uh there are no lines up for this fight so i won't even really go into it i don't know
anything about Thompson. I just looked at his
tapology. I'm going to assume
Brito wins, but I truly just don't know anything
about him. You know, if he can Pat Sabatini
him, maybe he gets a big mega win
in his debut, but I got no thoughts
on this fight, except that I'm
sad. I really did like the Bagdasarian
fight. Alas,
maybe they'll rebook it down the line.
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Neil Magny taking on Yaroslav Amasov in a welterweight contest,
another terrific fight that should probably be higher up on this card.
You know, I don't know why, but Neil Mav
magnate perennial top 15 dude he's not anymore but he has been that way for a long time and he's
on a two-fight win streak right now you know putting it together yet again he will not go quietly
into that good night amosov former bellator champion uh making his debut uh in the uc did fight in
c f fc i think that was right back in march and he submitted curtis millinder um you know
ATT product waiting to get here ready to get here see if he can make some noise probably a little
past his peak, but still
certainly very good. These odds are
very long. Amosov's minus 410
to come back on Magnus, plus 320.
You know, I think Amosov's going to win this
fight, but Neil Magny
still has the juice. The issue
is Magny's never been a great defensive wrestler, and so
Amosov's probably just going to do that.
But, you know, Magnus is
just, again, sort of
a career overachiever. Amosov,
you know, I know he beat Curtis
Millinder. Before that, he had
the sort of the shocking loss to Jason
Jackson he's going to win this fight odds feel long i don't want to take a dogshot on magni though
but uh something i saw and i get why like looking at it mathematically um it makes sense magni
you know doesn't hit this a lot and frankly neither does amosov but i really like the over two
and a half in this fight and it's minus 115 um emosov's not like an incredible finisher and
magny's super durable in general like this this feels like a fight to me that's going to
to last the whole way neither man is is going to really establish themselves and get a finish so
i really like that over two and a half at minus one 15 maybe i'll look like an idiot mat like historically
they actually don't hit that over a lot either of them but it jumped out to me and so i jumped on it
uh a heavyweight contest we don't need to talk a lot about sean shoroff taking on stephen aspland
Sharaf lost his debut, not in October, October of 2024.
He debuted against junior Taffa, I think on short notice, if I'm remembering right.
He knocked out because it's junior Taffa and he's heavyweight.
Aspen's making his debut.
He is the contender series guy who, you know, nicknames concrete, big fella, you know, formerly a fat guy who was open about, you know, his battle with obesity and, you know,
MMA helping him turn his life around and uh seems like a genuinely good dude you know we don't
know I'm sure he'll get milkshake ducked um he is the famous one for say you know telling dana
white I'll suck your toes if you put me in the UFC despite having scored like an eight second
knockout he's obviously going to get a contract a bit of a weirdo bit of an oddball
it's probably going to knock out chansher off but like don't bet on this these are bad
heavyweights um no just just don't don't involve yourself uh in this if you're doing anything just
do the under one and a half which it's still like minus 170 but they're probably just going to come
and throw punches so very good um just a couple of more here before we pop over to pfl very quickly
melissa crotin takes on luana santos in a legitimately pretty significant interesting
bantam like women's bantam weight fight uh we don't say that
that all the time, but we get to say it today. Neither of these women are ranked, I don't believe.
Let me actually. I could be wrong. Oh, no, Luana Santos is ranked. I just pulled it up. She's number
15. And Croden made her UFC debut earlier this year and wanted what she, what she do? She TKOed
Tynar, Lisboa. That's right. In October, Santos submitted Lisboa in May. So two women who beat
Tanara Lisboa are fighting off Santos
Form 1 in the UFC, still super
young. She's
25, which is
super young for a women's band-in-weight prospect.
This
is like a rare
up-and-coming women's bannam weights
are fighting, and it's lined appropriately
minus 155 for Luana Santos, plus
130 for Croton.
I really liked how Croden looked against
Tynarlesboa. Big, you know,
mean, aggressive.
I do think Luana-Santo should
favored much more proven um younger that's always just a huge edge sort of as these things go but uh i am
very interested in this fight i uh the thing i've decided i think the over two and a half here looks
okay it's minus 250 it's a big price but um this just feels like a fight that's going to be a back
and forth affair neither woman is dynamic enough i don't think to really get a finish here and both
are fairly durable in their career so over two and a half something to
look at. Another fight we're not going to talk about, the other heavyweight fight,
Alan Frye taking on Garamee, Pat, both dudes are debuting. I know nothing about them,
didn't find that much to view about them. Pat is a slight betting favorite at minus 165.
Don't bet this fight. You can do other things. This isn't, this is a contender serious fight
that's been chucked on this card for reasons unknown. And then we open the proceedings up
with Jamie Lynn Horth taking on Teresa Bleda in a decent little women's flyweight fight.
horse coming off unanimous decision win over venezta nemopolis in june bleda uh ud cabriela fernandez back in june of
23 30 months since teresa blaida fought that is a long long layoff as far i was originally
booked for june and blada withdrew so it would have been at least only 24 months then um you know
if bleda is the same fighter she was almost three years ago she you know i would favor her to win this
fight. I don't know. Honestly, I just took a stab on Jamie Lennon Horth because of the super long
layoff. Blade is a more physical fighter. That long layoff is deeply concerning. I do believe in
ring rust, and that is, that's a whole heck of a lot of it. So it's where I'm at on the UFC
Vegas 112 card. Let's pop over to PFL very briefly, and here's the thing. I don't know which
one we're going to do here. There's a possibility, I'll just say, Yolo F it, and do, and do
a double climb. Otherwise, we're just going to put together a silly parlay of the two favorites
and the two big fights. Christina Giustino, aka Chris Cyborg, is taking on Sarah Collins
in a fight that, that fight's happening. That is a fight that is going to happen. And while I think
it would obviously be incredibly funny if Chris Cyborg found a way to lose this fight, I don't
think that's possible um it just doesn't seem likely that that is going to happen uh i suspect this
fight is going to be over incredibly quickly uh you know sarah collins credit to her she did choke
out leah mccourt her last time out but uh yeah no i don't i don't like her chances uh and
you know cyborgs like a minus 700 betting favorite so uh the other one is vedine nymkov taking on
Hinnam Fahedha.
Nimkov is just going to tackle Fahedah, and that's why he's like a minus 500 betting favorite.
He just got to tackle him.
And, you know, that's okay.
Hennam Fahara's not a bad heavyweight.
This is a reasonable heavyweight fight.
You know, the standards of heavyweight are what they are.
But we know how this fight's going to go.
Frankly, neither of them are really like great climb bets even because the odds are too big on Chris.
And I don't know what the odds I have.
can get it depends on the book for thing maybe we'll do it just to do it but probably now probably
just going to hold off and wait until 2026 i mean i will just throw those two in a parlay together
for you know minus 300 odds or whatever at the minimum and have a good time so that is all the fights
this year and 2025 is going to be in the books after saturday um working on our no bet's board
schedule because like i said it's going to be six weeks off it's going to be a long time we're
going to at least have a couple of shows in there.
We will do the customary at the start of 2026 show with the year in future, you know,
year in champion futures market predictions.
And maybe just kind of some discussion about what we envision for 2026.
I'll get a couple of guests on.
And trying to looking at working around a 2025 recap episode where, you know, we do the best
bets of the year biggest upsets yada yada yada um maybe those end up just being one collective episode
i'm not sure yet uh it certainly won't be next week so and it almost certainly won't be
christmas week either but you know end of the year look for maybe something to happen for us
thank you for sticking with us this whole year uh i genuinely hope you have faded my bets because
they've been so bad this year and i'm so sorry if you joined me on this
big losing streak. But rest assured, we will plug away. The climb. I mean, it's going to happen
in 2026. I feel it. I feel it in the bones. But again, thank you for listening. Love you all so
much. Talk to you soon.
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