MMA Fighting - No Bets Barred: Is Reinier de Ridder Fighting For A Title Shot At UFC Vancouver?
Episode Date: October 15, 2025Is Reinier de Ridder fighting for a title shot this weekend? This Saturday, UFC Vancouver goes down in The Great White North, headlined by a middleweight main event matchup between two-division ONE c...hampion Reinier de Ridder and short notice replacement Brendan Allen. De Ridder was supposed to take on Anthony Hernandez in a functional title eliminator, but now that he’s out, will a win over Allen get RDR the same opportunity? No Bets Barred is here to break it all down. This week, host Jed Meshew flies solo, taking a look at all things UFC Vancouver. Topics discussed include RDR's chances to keep his run alive and maybe sneak into a title shot, whether Kevin Holland is on the decline and if Mike Malott can take advantage, Jasmine Jasudavicius and her shot at upsetting Manon Fiorot, the return of Chito Vera, the next step of The Climb, and more. Tune in for episode 140 of No Bets Barred. Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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And we are on to another fight week.
UFC Vancouver goes down this Saturday night.
Rogers Arena,
obviously in the aforementioned Vancouver,
British Columbia,
Canada.
It's right.
We head to the Great White North again
to visit our wonderful neighbors up there.
And frankly,
pretty decent card.
Right? Like, all relative.
Main card has several fights that are really good.
I think that there are four very, very good fights on this main card and two totally reasonable fights.
And the rest of it is filled out with, you know, your sort of standard issue.
Oh, yeah, we're going to Canada.
Let's play the hits.
Let's break out all the good people.
But before we get to that, do have a bit of housekeeping.
That housekeeping specifically being UFC Rio.
took place this past weekend.
Charles Olavera got back in the win column against Matush Camrod.
And we got back in the win column for the first time and forever.
Actually, I think technically we had a very slightly winning week before.
But up a couple units last week, still down massively on the year.
Make no mistake.
I am losing money in 2025 gambling.
But it was nice.
We had very limited bets last week.
But cashed them all.
Charles Olavera, Mario Pinto Cash.
We had a parlay that ended up being a straight bet on Bia Mosquita because Volta Valker was forced out.
And most importantly, the climb, easy does it.
No stress whatsoever as Joel Lauerz cash is.
Step three of the climb, advancing the bankroll up to $175.
And we have a climb bet this week as well.
So we will keep moving up the mountain.
If this is your first time, you don't know what the climb is.
it is my attempt to string together
somewhere between 28 and 30 consecutive bets.
30 is the sort of big, fancy, beautiful, shining number on the hill.
Mine is 500 or better.
You string together enough of those bets.
You roll them one into each other.
You can turn 100 bucks into 10 grand.
And that is what we are trying to do.
This is iteration 8 of the climb.
Eight is my lucky number.
Hopefully we can take her all the way this time around.
But enough of U.S.
Rio an event, which frankly I still haven't even seen all of. I was on vacation this past weekend.
While it's coming out just a little bit later than normal, I was living my best life in the Isles of
South Carolina. But now I am back as we move to the Isles of Canada, wonderful British Columbia
and Vancouver, a truly tremendous city. So lucky for all the fighters who get to visit there this weekend.
and for all the fans who are attending this weekend, I think you're going to have a good time.
This is a good card, and it is capped off by a middleweight contest as Renier de Jardder takes on Brendan Allen.
Obviously, originally this fight was supposed to be RDR versus Fluffy Hernandez in a potential title eliminator.
Dana White, the UFC CEO, has not specifically said that RDR is out of the title mix,
but it does seem pretty likely with Fluffy pulling out now and stepping in that unless he does something totally
crazy, probably not fighting Hamza Tchaimaev next, though I personally would love to see that.
Instead, first though, he does have to get past Allen, and that is no joke.
RDR is your betting favorite at minus 200, the comeback on Allen plus 165-ish.
RDR surging in the UFC Forno since coming over from one championship.
Most recently, the split decision winner of Robert Whitaker at UFC Abu Dhabi back in July.
Allen most recently fought at UFC 318 also in July
He is three and two over his past five
But he is coming off the unanimous decision win over Marvin Vittori
To get back in the win column
I love this fight as far as a short notice fight goes
Obviously the fluffy fight was the one to make
But there's just when it comes to Rdiard there is no wrong way to eat that Reese's is
He is my boy longtime listeners of this program or any of our other ones
Will know I am a most
the very first adopters of Reiner de Ritter on our website.
Honestly, one of the first big supporters of him amongst the broader MMA media space.
I feel comfortable in saying that.
He is goofy, and I love him so very, very dearly, like a member of my own family.
He is a big boy and great grappling skills, dangerous everywhere.
What we've seen in the UFC that is probably the most compelling part of his game, though,
or his work in the clinch, specifically his knees, he has really turned that into a dangerous game.
A composite game is all the pieces kind of interlocked together to make a tough riddle for even veteran awesome fighters like Robert Whitaker.
And we've also seen dude's tough because Robert Whitaker damn near killed him.
I mean, landed just one of the cleanest right angel ever see and RDR managed to work his way through and survive and still ended up winning that decision.
which I don't frankly hate.
Can Brin and Allen replicate what Whitaker did but more successfully?
I have my doubts.
He is developing as a striker, but Brinand Allen, his bread is buttered on the ground.
And I do think RDR is a good enough defensive wrestler to really prevent Brinand Allen from sort of getting his way in that sort of a battle.
And moreover, I think that he can take Brennan Allen down.
He can control the grappling aspects of this game much better.
He can be a handful in the clinch just with his physicality and frankly the size of it.
him. And I like Brennan Allen. I do think that the short notice might even be a problem for him here.
I don't know if he was training for somebody else, but five rounds is always tough.
But the most important thing of all this, one of these boys is my boy, and I will always, always, always support my boy.
Ryder de Ritter, first bed of the evening, minus 200 is the ticket price I got him out.
And we can move on down the road to the co-main event as Kevin Holland takes on Mike Molotny.
Walterweight contest Holland.
Two and three over his past five that is split between welterweight and middleweight.
It's the same if you just talk as welterweight's, though.
Also two and three, and he's coming off a unanimous decision lost to Daniel Rodriguez at UFC 318 in July.
So, you know, Kevin Holland and Brennan Allen both fought at UFC 318 in July.
They're both fighting again.
They're getting their miles worth here.
Mike Malott last fought at UFC 315 in May.
was, of course, up in Canada.
Mike Malat comes with him.
And Mike Malat is 5'1 in the UFC,
knocked out Chuck Buffalo at UFC 315.
His lone loss is that comeback loss to Neil Magni.
And he is the very slight favorite minus 118 to Kevin Holland,
close to even money.
Holland has had some fun quotes this week.
Specifically, he didn't realize Mike Malott was not,
shit, who the hell is it?
Oh, Jake Matthews, sorry.
didn't realize he wasn't fighting Jake Matthews until Jake Matthews lost to Neil Magde.
Whether that's true or not, it does sort of speak to some extent a truth about what's going on.
Mike Malatt does feel like the Canadian Jake Matthews.
So how will that play into this fight?
Hard to say, man, I'll just, I'll peel the curtain back.
I'm on Kevin Holland here, but I'm specifically on Kevin Holland because he is on my fantasy team
and I need him to come through.
He already fought once and did not deliver.
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So is Kevin Hollen.
He might turn around fighting December.
You never know.
But he has not looked good lately.
Every time he fights, it seems worse.
I do believe he's better at Walter Waite.
But then you look at his resume and realize, man,
who's the last guy in his prime that Kevin Holland's beaten?
And Miko Loxychicchic that's a middleweight.
It's also Miko Liksechik.
How good is that win?
Tough to say.
Tim Means in 2022, you know, like we're closely coming up on five years since he's gotten a good win in a weight class, not a win over a Vicente Lucke, who is clearly old.
So Mike Malad is a tough customer in that respect.
Honestly, I think Mike Burlott should be the favorite.
And if I'm being totally real with you, probably should be a bigger.
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It takes us to the feature bout of the evening,
a bantamway contest is Marlon Chito. Vera takes on Amin Zahabi.
Vera, your underdog, plus 105, Zahabi minus 125 is the very slight betting favorite.
Vera, two and three over his past five, a two-fight losing streak coming into this one,
and a unanimous decision lost to Figgie Smalls is the most last time we saw him out.
Not this past August, the August of the year before that UFC Abu Dhabi.
So he's been out of action for over a year now.
meanwhile Zahdi not out of action man is is fairly busy a six-fight winning streak and a unanimous decision win over Jose Aaldo in May at UFC 315
Some people thought that Aldo won even I am not one to be like yeah, it's reasonable
I think at worst Sahe would have deserved a draw there and a great finish from him as the fight kind of
petered out towards the end he just kept putting it on Jose
a terrific effort from Amunds a hobby and sort of the win that made me be like,
okay, he's real because I have thought Amin Tahoeba is all smoke and mirrors,
favorable matchmaking, because nothing he does really jumps out.
He is a tri-star fighter in the negative senses of those words to me,
Jack of all trades, nothing.
There's nothing to hang his hat on, nothing to go back to when he needs to.
But he hasn't need to.
In these six wins, he is just, he's tough, he's well-rounded, he keeps,
fighting, make some good plans, not bad. Is that enough against Malinvera? Could easily be that the
issue with Cheeto. Chito has lost a lot recently. It's all been to very top opposition, but that's the
issue with Cheeto. He can lose to worse opposition because he simply won't do anything for so
huge stretches of the fight. He will just not be active. And that's what cost him as a dynamic
finisher, a terrific athlete, a dangerous guy who kind of fights against himself in many respects.
And so it makes this a compelling and tricky matchup to call as a guy I've never believed
in versus a guy who should believe in himself more or maybe believes in himself too much.
I don't know which it's a fine line that he's walking now.
I don't know which side he falls on.
That being said, Zhabi is not known for like a super high work rate either.
and so I think this could end up really bogging down into a much slower contest.
And I'll fight like that.
Marlon Vera is the guy who throws the more damaging single efforts.
He is the more dynamic fighter.
Getting that plus money, I'm going to take Cheeto Vera.
And I might be pulling my hair out in the second round as Cheeto is still simply doing nothing.
But we're going to ride that roller coaster one more time at least before we finally get off.
It takes us to a flyweight contest as monomical.
Fior, Fiorho, sorry, takes on Yasmin, Yazadavisius in a really, really good fight.
You know, like this could easily be the main event of an Apex card.
It could be the main event in this card, frankly.
Menon Furo is 4 and 1 over a past 5, was undefeated in the promotion.
First loss was against Valentina Shibchenko at UFC 315 for the flyweight title in a fight
where she was competitive but did lose.
Yazavishius, the other end of the spectrum,
now on a five-fight winning streak, right?
She is the one that's surging to get to Valentina Hssepchenko or potentially
Zhang Wei-Ly.
Submitted Jessica Androge with a rear-naked choke at UFC 315 in May.
So same time off for both women, though they are coming off different outcomes.
And I think this is a really good booking.
It's a great match-up.
I'm very much looking forward to it.
I do think this is a fight that favors Fioro.
She's just a hoss.
That's her whole thing, is that she's a whole thing.
is that she is a physical specimen.
She is difficult to, quote, forced to do anything.
Shevchenko had some success going takedowns and controlling position,
but even that was to an extent limited because Fioro is so physically strong.
Yazdavis is not as strong as Shvchenko, a good, talented grappler, but a grappler she is.
I think Fioro can stuff most of these takedowns, keep this on the feet and use her sort of
uninspiring but undeniably effective clean punches trade punches volume to just sort of pile up and win the fight over time against uh as an officer as she defends takedowns and so i am on minot furor at minus two 25 but
ladies and gentlemen this is our climb this week step four of the climb is the over two and a half in this contest at minus four fifty
Furo has hit it in six straight fights.
She had two finishes in her UFC debut and her sophomore effort in the promotion and has gone to decisions six times in a row since then.
And might I just add, that includes her last two fights, which were both 25-minute affairs.
Meanwhile, Yazadavish has hit it in eight of her 10 UFC bouts have gone over the two and a half mark.
And one of those bouts that she didn't, I mean, it was as great.
closest could be she got to finish at 228 of the third round against ariana de silva so three seconds away
from hitting that close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades but still both women tend to fight long
the over two and a half is this high for a reason i believe it's going to hit and we will have
four legs down as we move on up the mountain and that takes that that's the big four right there are four
very good fights and then a couple of other fights our main card though
continues as Cody Gibson takes on Ariricely Lang in a bansomweight contest.
And it's an interesting one.
Gibson's two and three over his past five coming off his submission lost to
Desmond Black's year in March.
Ritchie Lang,
two, two,
and a no contest over his past five and a unanimous decision lost to Raul Roses Jr.
in September of 2024 at the Sphere Noche card.
That's a long time to lay off.
But more importantly,
Orichie Lang is not the best defensive wrestler.
and Cody Gibson is going to look to do that.
Half of Richie Lang's eight UFC opponents have taken him down three or more times.
Cody Gibson is a guy who is going to look to do that.
That's why he's your bidding favorite at minus 165-ish.
It's why Richie Lang is a plus 140 dog, and it's why I can't bet a Richie Lang.
I don't have massive confidence in Cody Gibson.
He's just not a fighter who speaks to me.
And so I'm probably just going to pass.
Ritchie Lang can be dynamic, can be a little bit threatening.
but I think you do a lot worse than betting Cody Gibson here
because stylistically this fight does appear to favor him.
And let's move on to the final main card fight of the evening,
the opening main card fight on Saturday,
as Kyle Nelson takes on Matt Fervola in a lightweight contest
that I don't have a clue what's about to happen in.
Nelson's your underdog even money,
Favola minus 120 or so.
Both men up and down last little bit.
Forvola 3 and 2 over 5 on a two-fight skid,
knocked out by Foresziam in September of 2024.
And Nelson also coming off a TKO lost his to Steve Garcia in September of 2024.
Don't know how to feel about it.
I think these odds are probably exactly correct.
This fight is close to a coin flip with maybe a very slight edge towards for Volo.
Favola has historically been a better fighter, accomplished more.
But shout out to Kyle Nelson.
a.k.a. my former co-host and our
dear, dear friend Connor Berks, who is
fighting Matt Frivolta comes in, anything can happen.
Neither dude is the most durable. Both dude swing a hammer.
Hard to have any level of confidence about this fight.
And so for me, stone cold pass.
But if you want to look at the under here,
I also think that is a more than reasonable outlook to pursue.
Moving on to the prelim card, and I'm going to level with you.
We're going to move pretty quick through this prelim card,
because in general I think card like this doesn't deserve.
We don't need to spend 30 minutes talking about it.
And mostly I have very limited thoughts on a lot of these fights.
Charles Jordanian taken on Davy Grant.
Jordane's a slight betting favorite minus 170.
Grant plus 142 in this bantamoy contest.
Grant's on a decent run, 4-1 over 5, two-fight win streak,
beat Demone Blackshear in July.
Jordan beat Victor Henry in November.
Jordan, you know, I think these odds are about right.
Jordane, I do believe this is a striking battle.
Neitherman shoots a lot of takedowns,
but I do believe that Jordane is the more dynamic of the two,
better kicking game.
You know, he was a longtime joke about third round Jordan on this program.
Not really a thing, but Davey Grant should not be discounted,
not counted out.
He's on a good run for a pretty solid reason here.
And to me, this feels odds are about right or maybe Davy Grant is being undervalued.
Honestly, like, you could sell me.
His loan loss is a split decision to Daniel Marcos in this current run of his.
And Jordane is not super impressive.
Maybe he gets a boost from the crowd.
To me, this is a dogged pass position, and I am taking the pass.
And we do a flyweight contest as Bruno Silva takes on Heng Song Park.
Park, your betting favorite, minus 260 to come back on Silva plus 2.10.
Penn Park, 3 and 1 in the UFC coming off road to UFC, suffered his first loss this last time out,
face cranked by Tutsu, Tira, in August.
No shame in that.
Silver, 3 and 2 over his past 5, he's on a two-fight losing streak and knocked out by Josh Van in June.
Also, no shame to that, given that Josh Van is fighting for the belt in December and may well be
the new flyweight champion of the world.
I do think this fight just strongly favors Park, right?
He's younger, strong grappling base.
The only concern is Silva has only lost too good opposition, frankly, and is Park that good?
We'll see.
Again, no shame in losing to retire.
I simply don't have a great read on this.
I would favor Park, but I think the odds are about appropriate.
And so no action for me on this one.
Similarly, the middle-way contest between Danny Barlow and Jordan Santos, Barlow, a pretty big favorite at minus 330.
Santos plus 270.
to some extent it makes sense, right?
Barlow does have some wins in the OCS two and one,
but he is coming off a knockout loss.
That being said, you know, he had some hype on Conditionary.
I rated him as a middling prospect.
Simply no defense, but a terrific action fighter.
That's mostly held up.
Jordan Santos is a guy who he is just a generic middleweight.
He can hit a little bit.
He's not great.
Too big a number on Danny Barlow for a guy who does not have
the defensive responsibility, no involvement in this particular effort.
We will have a bet, though, on this lightweight contest as Kyle Preppelick takes on Drew Dober.
Dober a big favorite, biggest on the card, in fact, at minus 500, I believe that's right.
And Kyle Preppelich plus 390 to come back.
Straight up, this number is huge.
Dober certainly has achieved the higher highs.
Frankly, a lot of this is a little bit Kyle Nelson Matt for Volta.
Drew Dober has accomplished much more than Propelac, but Drew Dober's on a one in four run right now.
You know, he has lost four of his past five.
Coming off a knockout, lost to Manuel Torres earlier this year.
You simply shouldn't lay this number at Drew Dober.
But even despite the fact that Kyle Propeleck hasn't accomplished too much, a bunch of losses in the UFC,
some wins in the regional circuit made his way back to the promotion, but then lost to Benoit Sandini at UFC 315.
basically here because he's,
Kyle Puppolak appears to be the line between exactly,
exactly good enough for the UFC but not good enough to win, right?
Like in the UFC, when he is in the promotion, he loses,
and when he's out of the promotion, he mostly wins.
So can he get the elusive first UFC win?
They're not setting him up for success,
but I wouldn't discount him because Dober is just a crazy person at times.
And so instead, I think what I like here is the under two and a half,
because I think you're getting a really good price at minus 160.
The way Drew Dober fights, each of them over their past five,
they've hit this under four of the five times.
I think you're getting a good price at minus 160 here.
Dober is going to come out.
They're going to chuck them.
One dude's going to fall over.
It's probably going to be Propa-Lek.
But instead of laying all that juice on Dober, give me the under two and a half.
Another fight we'll have a little bit of action on
As we just have three fights left in the evening
Stephanie Luciano, a women's straw weight contest
against Ravino Oliva.
Luciano, a minus 300 betting favorite.
They come back on Olivera plus 240.
Luciano, a split decision lost to Sam Hughes in March.
She's one in the promotion.
The loss, not controversial because the fight was just a total toss-up.
She could easily be two and Olavera.
Lost to Tynara Lisboa in 2023.
She has not fought in two years.
She's 0 and 1 in the UFC.
Luciano, I believe, is a good prospect.
I had her rated as one of the top ones coming off Condonniercees in 20203.
A bit of a setup fight here, unless Oliver spent the past two years getting much, much better at fighting.
I like Luciano, sort of tenacity and aggression to take the day for Rondinia.
And so I have her in a parlay with one other fighter, another fighter who I think is a good prospect.
And next up, it's Azamot Bekoev in a middleweight contest against Usri Belguri.
totally butchered that probably
sorry about that Bekhov minus 290
betting favorite
Belgari plus 235
Bekowev LFA champ
2 and O in the UFC
stopped Ryan Loder in May
kids got some juice at middle weight
let me just tell you
and Belgari
interesting because originally this fight was
Belgari was a two-time
continuous fighter he lost his first time out
came back last year
got a win but Dana White declined to sign him
despite the fact that
he is a glory kickboxer, has a glory kickboxing tournament winner,
and even has a win over Alex Pereira at glory kickboxing.
UFC still didn't sign him.
They did later sign him, though, as a replacement for an opponent.
Beckhoev, I believe the opponent was Torres-Fini.
I believe Beckwith's supposed to face Torres-Finny.
Finney withdrew.
Belgari stepped in, but Visa issues forced them to bump this fight back.
This is a straightforward fight.
Belguer is a kickboxer.
Beckwith pretty well-rounded.
And like I said, I think of a very talented, talented prospect.
He is going to tackle the glory kickboxer, and he is going to beat him up on the ground.
Bekoev parlayed up with Luciano.
Those two get you to a round in the neighborhood of a minus 125.
So that's where we're at.
And the opening bout of the evening, we are functionally not going to talk about it.
It's Melissa Croden taking on Tenora, Lisboa.
And I just simply don't have much to say here.
I have never seen Cruden fight.
she is a Canadian fighter
she is six and two in her career
she competed at LFA
you know
last few fights were at LFA
haven't seen her fight
just don't have any sort of concept
about what she brings to the table
conversely
Tinaura Lisboa
she is a fighter
she has fought three times in the UFC
she did beat Reveino Levera
so she got that going for
and beat Jessica
Rose Clark, but she did lose to Luana Santos her last time out.
My guess is Liz Boa should be the favorite because she is accomplished something at this high
level, but I simply do not know anything about Croden and can't make an educated statement
about this.
So no bet, no action.
And that is UFC Vancouver in the books, which means we're very, very close to UFC 321,
Etty Hald Arena Abu Dhabi, Tom Aspinall, Cyril Ghan, Vinojani-Makensi Dern, Dern's season finally upon us.
Pretty decent friggin' card at Abu Dhabi next week.
We have a guest.
We will be joined by Luke Noseda of the Main Car Minute and Morning Combat Fame to break down the pay-per-view, as we have been want to do lately.
Until then, enjoy the fights this weekend.
Thank you so much for tuning in this week.
Love y'all.
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