MMA Fighting - No Bets Barred: Sean Strickland Vs. Dricus Du Plessis And The Best Bets For UFC 297

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

UFC 297 takes place this Saturday as the UFC returns to Toronto for the first time since 2018 and its brought two title fights with it. In the co-main event, Raquel Pennington faces Mayra Bueno Silva ...for the vacant women's bantamweight title, and then in the main event, Sean Strickland puts his middleweight strap on the line against Dricus du Plessis, and the No Bets Barred boys are here to cover every angle of 2024's first PPV event. This week, hosts Conner Burks and Jed Meshew are joined by Alexander K. Lee who is boots on the ground in Toronto for this fight card, where they get a look into the vibes in Canada ahead of UFC 297. Then it's right into the breakdowns where the boys discuss the likelihood of finishes in the main and co-main events, the return of Flyweight Unders, and even some specialty props ahead of what is sure to be a heated pre-fight press conference. Tune in for episode 75 of No Bets Barred. Follow Conner Burks: @connerburks Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:18 The promotion returns to Toronto. T-DOT, the six, Hogtown, is that one? I don't know if that's us. It might be. That is the voice of A.K. Lee, who boots on the ground in Toronto right now? That's right. Well, I'm in, I'm in, yeah, it's essentially in Toronto. You know, I'm not going to get into all the different regions of Toronto.
Starting point is 00:02:41 But let's just say I'm in Toronto. The greater Toronto area. The GTA, as they say. What's up, Connor? It's tough hang, right? Guys, tough hang. We're here to talk Ultimfighter. And wouldn't you know it, Brad Katona on this?
Starting point is 00:02:53 card so it kind of went out for it it was destiny yes uh nice to uh reunite here with my man a k leon as always joined by uh jed meshoo uh how we feeling guys i mean first pay-per-view of the year we were just discussing before we got on the air we uh we hype connor can i just say um that you know there there's people out there saying i'm not sure if this connor barks does he live the does he live the lifestyle he projects on the MMA hour, you know, out there in the world at the live watch parties. And yet here you are. No video, podcast audio only rocking the Maple Leaf hat. I mean, you are committed to USC 297 right now. Yeah, you like that dedication. You like that dedication. I almost put on a hockey jersey just for this to record a no video podcast. I was this close to
Starting point is 00:03:43 putting one on. You're professional. With a crew neck. Yeah, I mean, I'm excited for you. I'm excited for Ford, first favorite of year. Can't wait for the main event. And I've found some things to make myself especially excited for the rest of the card. G.C., you've been to Toronto before, right? I haven't. I'd love to go. Please. You've got to come up here. This is your kind of town. Toronto's a great place. Been a couple times. It seems like my kind of town. I'm not going to lie. It seems like a place that I would just love, especially anywhere I can call Hogtown.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I mean, I'm going to get along with it. Which you can. Yeah. I mean, I guess I could technically call New York. Cogtown too, but I feel like people would look at me funny. Maybe you just be a trendsetter. Just start it, you know? Just be the first. Don't want to bury the lead here, guys.
Starting point is 00:04:26 You know, I know we're excited about UFC 297, but flywood unders are pretty back, huh? I mean, you are listening to a podcast that was the proud owners of a little tiny tweet in the corner of an ESPN Plus broadcast right after the first fight on the early prelims finished up. But there you saw it right there in the corner. Jed Mishu tweeted, our flyweight under's back at Connor Burks, hit with the hashtag UFC Vegas 84. And I mean, I think that question's answers itself. I think it's pretty much rhetorical at this point.
Starting point is 00:05:00 We get the one flyweight fight. It goes under and then we get a tweet on the air. I think they're back. I mean, plus, like one, we got a flyweight fight coming up this week we'll talk about. seems like a very opportune under. A couple of good contestants. Couple of good contestants.
Starting point is 00:05:17 A couple of good guys for the flywood owners. And, I mean, if you really want to, you know, want to think about it, Manel Kopp versus Mateus Nikolao too, fight never even happened. So kind of hit the under there, you know. That's how sure that did not take 15 minutes for that fight to go down, you know. That fight was over in zero seconds. That's how short that one was. So, yeah, I mean, that was a big moment for no bets bar.
Starting point is 00:05:39 A big moment for everyone on the team, I have to say. I mean, it was really special. First, we saw old Mikey Hack, and then to sandwich it, to book in the tweets after the Joshua Van Fight, we see Jed Mishu pop up there. Just an all-time moment, an all-time moment. It was absolutely excellent. Made my night, and it was a good night. I actually had a winning week to start out the year. Jed, how did we do, my man?
Starting point is 00:06:01 I finished down 0.06 of a unit. 0.06, so not even 0.6. No, yeah, just almost, and I have no one else to blame. We talked about it on the show. We knew exactly what would happen. I backed Matthew Simmel's burger, had zero doubt that that was a losing bet at the time I put it in. And yeah. I forgot that you did that.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I'm not going to lie. I forgot that you did that because as that was happening, I was like, I'm so glad I didn't bet on this guy. It just never works out. Yeah. You know, first contender for worst bet of the year. Matthew Simmelzberger, taking the bet that I knew would fail, but I was just thrilled
Starting point is 00:06:45 because, you know, Flywood Under's back, heavyweight overs. Heavyweight overs went to a decision. Yeah. You're the over one and a half, and that bad boy went to a decision. I cruised to the win there. So one, I want to know on both counts.
Starting point is 00:06:58 What a strong start of 2024, you know? If only the judges had done the right thing and given Arlowski a robbery decision win, I feel like we all would have had, we all would weigh. head, I think. Also, I ended up taking an Arlowski by decision. We had talked about it. I got so, that
Starting point is 00:07:15 line moved so much from where, because I got it at like plus 700. It came down to 450. I was like, I was holding the ticket that looked okay for a minute. I was like, maybe, maybe something. I got it not to be. I got it plus 900 on draft kings like day up.
Starting point is 00:07:31 So I was like, I got to put a couple of bucks on that because it's frigging Arlopski. It against Waldocholk Costas is going to the cards. And who knows is going to I scored it for Oloskey. No one likes WCA. I mean, you have to take a point deduction for the, for showboating on a 44 year old. It's not even a 44 year old.
Starting point is 00:07:50 If you're going to showboat, you got to back it up, my man. You can't be dancing in there and then not punching Andreela. Because it's not like you're dancing across from a guy who you're afraid is going to hit you. Andreelowski hasn't finished somebody since the Clinton administration, basically. Like, I think, I think you're going to try it a little harder instead of getting all salsy on it. And then the striking numbers were essentially even.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And when Andre Arlowski landed like a body kick, Waldor Cortez like gave him like a golf clap. He's like, ooh, nice. There you go. It's like, dude, you guys are pretty much landing the same amount. Like, why are you doing this? You know, scholars will dig into that question years to come. Yeah, I say, I say, book him against Tom Aspiron on UFC 300.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I'm a big supporter of that plan. That'd be great. All right. Canada. Has the weather up there in Canada right now, okay? It's not great, man. It's terrible. It's just not welcoming to our, you know, we have our dear Jose Youngs coming up to the coverage with me,
Starting point is 00:08:51 coming in from Arizona. Not that he's not used to going from the extremely warm climate of Arizona to other colder locales. He does that all the time. But it's like crispy. It's crispy cold up here. It's not nice. We don't have, he's not even going to get to enjoy snow.
Starting point is 00:09:06 It's not like, oh, it's cold, but at least it's beautiful snow. everywhere. It's just cold. It's windy. It's not like super cold if that's any constellation for him, but it's certainly cold enough. And I'll say here in New York, it's not that great either. And I think I heard through the grapevine. He has a layover just about 15 minutes away from me. And there is several inches of snow on the ground right now. So yeah, it's just not great. What are the vibes like in the city? Is there just a constant hum of Strickland, DDP, Myra Buoyna Silva, Raquel Pennington.
Starting point is 00:09:39 How many people have you overheard at the coffee shop talking about Rock El Pannington this week? Or Mario Vena Silva, yeah. You know, it's, I want to make a joke here, G.C., but I actually feel like it's, there's a few people I've brought it up to who were not aware that the UFC was coming back this week to Toronto, which is a bit of a surprise when you consider.
Starting point is 00:09:57 It's been five years, been since 20, sorry, six years. It's been 2018. 2018 was the last time they were here. 2019 they didn't visit Toronto, if I'm not mistaken. So then the COVID happened. We got pretty strict vaccination laws up here, so that prevented the UFC and many of its athletes from coming up here.
Starting point is 00:10:12 So you would think that we'd be starved for some UFC action, especially pay-per-view action, a couple of title fights. Not a lot of buzz. And I would be surprised at the event sells out on Saturday. I will say nosebleeds right now are currently going for about 600 Canadians, so about 500 USD. Jeez. Does it get in the building is $500?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Those are nosebleeds. I don't know that's what it opened at. I think we're at the point where people are reselling tickets. I'm not sure. Or just I don't know what the demand is at. But yeah, it is rough. Nosebleeds. Cheapest tickets are rough, $500.
Starting point is 00:10:44 That doesn't make sense to me. I'd be shocked. I'd be like that's not that much cheaper than what I paid for nosebleeds to the college football semi-final two years ago. Yeah. Like that feels like a much bigger event than, then the UFC coming to Canada. Maybe, I'll tell people, maybe any Canadians listening, any Trontonians or anyone
Starting point is 00:11:08 visiting having a visits from that town, maybe fight night. You can get some scalpers, you know, get a $250, $300. Maybe. I don't know, I don't know how the market works that way. That's still a ridiculous price. That's a ridiculous price for a okay card and okay. Oh, that's, that is being generous to it. I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Be okay is generous here. Well, let's get right in. Let's dive right into it. UFC 297, the return to Canada. We get the main event. the bad blood gets decided. We finally get a conclusion to this saga between Sean Strickland and Driecus Duplessi. And right now, Sean Strickland's your favorite.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Minus 135, Duplice, plus 114, plus 550, plus 600 realm to take the belt back in September. Now the favorite to defend here in January. Going to toss it to you guys, because this is a tough one for me. This is a tough one. Does anyone have a strong read, strong feeling here? That depends on your definition of strong. First, before I get into this, Connor, do you have action on this fight?
Starting point is 00:12:12 I just want to know that before we start. I do, but I'm actually taking a total. I'm on the under four and a half. It is kind of chalky, kind of like what you talked about last week, how you were like, Phil Hawes, whatever, minus 225 for the under one and a half. You were like, I'm just going to take it
Starting point is 00:12:27 because I think it's going to hit. That's what I did this week. Oh, great about it. Two. Let me tell you, that was the best bet I made all week. Yeah, feel quite good about this one. DDP is kind of the middleweight Charles Oliver, if you will. I always bet unders whenever he fights.
Starting point is 00:12:43 He always has exciting fights. So even if it misses, it'll be one of those frustrating ones that feels like it's going to get finished several times throughout the course. I am on the under four and a half. DDP, 20 of his 22 professional fights, I believe, have not gone to a decision. I know Strickland does go to much more decisions, but I think DDP is going to be the one dictating base and I think Sean Strickland will oblige in said pace. Okay, what are your thoughts on this fight? I'm all over the place.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Obviously, there's a ton of bets, a ton of ways that this could go. The first thing that jumped out to me was, and maybe it's because I'm leaning towards a Strickland win. I saw on draft. This is all my odds for the main event here from drafting. Strickland by decision plus 275. And I'm like, that seems okay. I mean, that's, if you're picking a Strickland win, that should be the safe.
Starting point is 00:13:31 bet, right? Him go in the distance outlasting Drixe plusi. I'm not sure. I still don't know about the whole Dracus duplice cardio thing. I know we got the nose fixed before the Whitaker fight, but that didn't go five rounds, right? That's a three round fight. That doesn't necessarily tell us. I have a feeling any cardio
Starting point is 00:13:48 issues he might have are more related to his physique than necessarily the nose thing, but I don't know. I don't know. Maybe he's a cardio machine now, but I do like the odds on a decision win for Strickland 275. If you think he can get a late finish, about the champion.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Strickland K.O. in round five, plus 2000. Again, I'm not too much to tell me to do this. A Strickland by KO is just by itself any round plus 200. But if you're picturing this fight where DDP comes out early and does some damage, it drops the champion, but Strickland survives
Starting point is 00:14:17 and then pours it on in rounds three, four, and five and then gets a late finish, you know, TKO on an exhausted DDP, maybe that's a long shot you want to take. But by KOs isn't terrible either, plus 200, but I think decisions so much safer. I don't know. I'm surprised. Can you guys explain?
Starting point is 00:14:31 I'm not a big gambler. Why is decision so? Why is that, why are you getting such good odds on decision for Strickland? Because I think the way the odds are set up is that they have it somewhat heavily favored that it won't go to a decision. And that DDP will win. No, so my theory actually is like a couple things about this. I think DDP is probably going to come out strong like he always does. I mean, every single one of his fights is is pretty high-paced and entertaining. The one fight that didn't go to a decision or that did go to a decision that I watch was the Brad Tavares one, and like Brad Tavarst just put on like one of the greatest chin performances of all time. Like he was just eating insane shots. I am going to side with
Starting point is 00:15:11 DDP on on him claiming that he has cardio until proven otherwise. Well, we have an avalanche paper towels just falling all over my kitchen right now. I don't know if the, so Mike picked that up. That was, that was terrifying harrowing. I'm going to decide that he does have the cardio until proven otherwise. And if he does, I think he's just going to push this insane pace and someone is going to have the benefit of that and someone's going to get finished. If he doesn't have the cardio, then he'll just gas out and I think Strickland can finish him in three, four, or five. So I do feel like it does not go to a decision. So we teeed this one up for Jed and now we've both given our opinions and Jed is still standing by waiting to give his.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I'm very interested to hear it. So this fight is even better than I thought it was. I can't wait for it. So I've got a breakdown on this fight coming later this week. And so as I was like, I was pumped about this because just on the face, it's like, all right, these guys, their styles match up really well. DDP, questionable cardio, a.K., to answer your question, I think that the belief is DDP's cardio, either he's going to finish this fight early or his cardio will fail him and Strickland cardio machine will, like, like Connor said, get a finish late in the fight. You kind of look at it on paper. it's like at the very top level view just like oh these guys match up really interesting
Starting point is 00:16:32 and then I dove into watching just the shit out of these two I have no idea what's going to happen I know that it's one of two things but I do not know which of those two things are going to happen because all of all of Sean Strickland's strengths line up so well against Drick's Duplessi's weaknesses and vice versa like what Strickland does well is cardio pressure. It's got a great
Starting point is 00:16:58 teep to the body and throws in combination. Drickus Duplice's defense is all high guard. So like his body is open to just get kicked there. He does not throw in combinations, which Sean Strickland is very good at defending one single
Starting point is 00:17:14 shots as we saw at Israel, Dissina. But the same time, Sean Strickland is a very slow starter. I mean, his team said coming into the Izzy fight, we think the first 10 minutes is going to be bad. And it was. We all remember Sean Strickland gets the knockdown at the end of the first round and wins that round and it has his big moment. But without that knockdown, he's probably lost that round simply just due to the fact that he starts pretty slow.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Drickus DuPless C comes out of the gay hot, man. Comes out of the gay real hot. It's so much more physical than Sean Strickland. I think he clearly has the better chin of these two. There are so many little pieces to how this fight can go down and sort of the tactics each man, employee and how it will go. This is the stupidest way to bet, but I cannot get away from a couple of really big things. And the biggest one, and honestly, as dumb as it is, it is the biggest factor in me picking
Starting point is 00:18:11 DDP to win and betting him as the underdog. He and his team are so confident as to be dismissive of Sean Strickland in a way that has sold me. And I know that fighters are all confident. and you hear a lot of teams say this, but I feel like you can usually tell the difference between a team that is saying that, because, like, yeah, we're just saying it
Starting point is 00:18:32 versus someone who is speaking it from, like, the bowels of truth as a fact that the rest of the world is just not clued into. It's the same way that Javier Mendes used to say, like, oh, Kane Velazquez, you as don't know him. He's going to come to the UFC, he's going to be a champion within five fights.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Like, that's just going to happen. That is the exact same way, D.D.B., is talking about the Sean Strickland and it has sold me. It is just straight up convinced me that they know that they are just aware of things that I cannot see because I do think he has a lot of potential like flaws here that that could come up with him. But I think he's just going to come out. Sean Strickland starts slow.
Starting point is 00:19:13 DDP is going to put it on him and whoever wins this fight is the dude who comes forward. Whoever is walking forward is winning the fight. Strong Strickland cannot fight off the back foot. but Izzy just never put him there. DDP doesn't usually get put on the back foot. So, and to me, that's where this lines. If both men just say, we're coming forward, then they're going to crash into each other in the middle.
Starting point is 00:19:36 DDP can get takedowns and he's a much better grappler and sort of the way he killed Robert Whitaker when he got on top of him. It was, dude, like Robert Whitaker is a damn good fighter. And as soon as DDP got on top of him, that fight was over. Like, it was just over. In the same way that, like, when Luke Rockhold got on top of Chris Wyman, that fight was done, that's what happened when DDP got on top of Robert Whitaker.
Starting point is 00:20:02 If he does it against Sean Strick and I think he can win, and I think the way this fight lines up, that will be part of what happened. So I'm back in trick as duplice. I won't be at all surprised if I'm wrong, but I am getting underdog odds on it. So I feel at least pretty good about this. But I will say that plus 2,000 on Sean Strickland in round 5, COO. that that called to me when you said it, AK.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I thought it would. I thought it would. That's a, I see the path for that very much. I think a lot of people can. I think, like I say, it's either strickland by decision
Starting point is 00:20:35 or strickland by K.O. round five. And I think a lot of the like, well, if I'm thinking it's going to go pass round four anyway, why not just go for the, why not go for the chaos? I might just throw a buck on that
Starting point is 00:20:44 because like 2000's a big number and like, yeah, I can see the path there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think it's going to be a car,
Starting point is 00:20:51 kind of like you mentioned. I think just the way that they've been talking, the way that DDP fights, the way that Sean Strickland is willing to engage as well, I just have a hard time seeing this being like a plotting, you know, just jab fest, like stay at range type fight.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I just feel like they're just going to get after it. I don't know who's going to win. I don't know who that, like, I would think that benefits DDP more because it's almost like he's lived in the chaos for his intent. higher career and he has more weapons when it goes there. But man, it's tough to, it's tough to doubt
Starting point is 00:21:29 either of these guys after their last performances. I mean, because you're talking about what DDP did to Whitaker. Like, the strict on against Izzy thing was watching it back, it was really, it truly was insane. Like he essentially had Izzy speechless. So I do not want to take anything away from that performance because it is. As I rewatched it, I would, was struck by even more so, like more so than any of the other ones, uh, than any of the times I viewed it. Izzy just wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And a lot of that, Strickland taking that out from him, but it's not like Strickland was taking it out by doing a ton of stuff that we'd never seen. Like, he was just enacting a good game plan very efficiently. I'm going to come forward. Uh, I'm parry and all his jabs. And Izzy never, never adapted to the defense that Sean Strickland had. I don't think DDP is going to have that same issue, but if he does, then okay. But also, I think we maybe at least should mention this.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Feels like, and you know, I know Connor, you in particular, don't like to play armchair psychologist. I'm a little bit more willing to speculate in these terms. Sean Strickland doesn't seem to be in a great place mentally with regards to Drixie. And when he gets into a locked cage and starts to fight him, suspect maybe he might be a little more prone. to making rash choices and decisions than he was against Israel Dissan. Yes, which also, you know, that if we're going to play armchair quarterback, it makes me feel even better about the under four and a half. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Again, I mean, if Drixus wins, Drix is finishing him. I do not think there's a world in which Drix Wins a decision. That would be very, very surprising to me. Plus 1,000. This fight alone, this fight alone, what are we at on a scale of 1 to 10 excitement? I'm in like a, yeah, I'm in like a certified 10. Yeah, straight up at a 10. You said it best, Connor, and you said it's going to be a car crash.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And this is like a great, this is about as good as a one fight pay-per-view that the UFC can put on right now. Because we're going to talk about the rest of the card later. And yeah, I'm Mr. Positiveity. I think this card is maybe a little better than people give me a credit for. Having said that, I can acknowledge. It's not a great pay-per-view card. Okay, I understand. It was the first card of the year.
Starting point is 00:23:45 But it's going to end on a really high note, I feel like, and mostly. whether you like Sean Strickland, whether you like Jurykis duplice, whether you're happy with the winner, the crowd is going to be, there's going to be a hot, hot, hot crowd for this fight. Because as much as I've been saying about like, oh, it doesn't feel like the city is like ablaze with like wanting to have the UFC back, they're definitely pumped up for this fight. People are pumped up for this fight. When, if the rest of the cartoons don't be a drag, people aren't like people are going to leave early. They are sticking around for this one fight because they are ready to explode once these two guys lock up.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And I'm talking about like it's WrestleMania. And that's great. That's the best of you could hope for in this situation. So I'm at a 10 for sure. Love it. Love it. I said, dude, I said win this fight. I said win Strickland Juan.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I was like, well, he should fight DDP. And that fight's my most anticipated fight of the year. And this is still my most anticipated fight of the year. Even with a bunch of bangers like coming, very excited. And to A.K.'s point. Final fight of the evening. tends to make people, that's how they judge a card in the aftermath. I'm left with a good, it's like, you know, in rom-coms, they always end rom-coms with some like pop, like happy poppy tune.
Starting point is 00:24:58 So even if the rest of the movie wasn't good, you're just like, all right, I'm exiting in the theater on a high. You're exiting the arena on Saturday, the Scotia Bank Arena on a high for sure. Yeah. And we've seen the opposite too. We saw the opposite the last time they're in Canada when they just went to Vancouver last year with the Nunez Aldana, right? That card was actually pretty good, right? We had a lot of can do. Canadians winning. The crowd was on fire. And then the Aldana, and then, but people look at it as like a bad car just because the Nunes-Al-Dana fight was pretty deplorable.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Yeah, the Canada stuff was magical. Yeah. The crowd was so hot. And then it ended so flat. That was the main event, right? Yeah, it was. It was. So this one. Do you guys want to have your heartbroken? Oh, please try it. Rip it out. Break it. Tatiana Suarez is out of her scheduled fight with Amanda Limosh.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yikes. Limos will now fight McKinsey Dern. at UFC 298. Sure. That's tough for us, Tatiana Suarez's future betters. Oh, hey. Yeah. No, in the UFC, maybe she gets health.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Hopefully it's not, you know, re-aggravation of one of her older injuries. She could walk right back into a title shot or something. So it might be good for you. I don't know. No, and Tatiana Suarez, she's out for four more years. Oh, don't say that. For a couple of reasons. Don't say that.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I get a McKinsey-Dern fight. Let me throw out a couple of other things here for this main event real quick. DDP by submission plus 550, but I think, that's doubtful. Just if anyone's, this doesn't mean more warning people off of this. It's fine. Because it's easy to look at DDP's record and go like,
Starting point is 00:26:24 oh, before he came, like before he like sort of made it to some major leagues, he was like a submission guy, but it's like, he does have submissions. He does, but a lot of fighters rack up submissions on the regional scene
Starting point is 00:26:34 because they're facing guys are just so overmatched that once they get them. He's a club and sub guy. Exactly, exactly. And that's just the easiest way to put those guys away. He's also, he's got sick jits, man. The pass he's using on Robert Whitaker,
Starting point is 00:26:47 that smash pass through was it's filthy. He is deeply underrated on the floor. But Strickland also has a decent ground game, and he's never been submitted. So I would say that's probably a stayaway. That's very tempting. I think I looked at it. I was like,
Starting point is 00:26:59 oh, yeah, because like I said, maybe he hurts him on the feet, subs him on the ground, but I think he hurts him on the feet and just keeps punching away until it gets a knockout. And the other one, a little bit safer.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Connor, I know you're down on the under four and a half. What about over two and a half as a part of a parlay? It's minus 125, over two and a half. I feel pretty comfortable with that. I don't know if you probably wouldn't touch that up in minus 125.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And man, I don't know, dude. Wouldn't touch it. I don't know. Like if you, the way these guys have been talking, not only through the press conference, but then to each other, like, DDP was on the MMR yesterday and said that him and Strickton were talking privately and we're like, we're going to, like, we are going to war. This is not going to the card. Someone is going to get finished.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And like, they're both just like, yep, let's do it. And like, if you just look at DDP's record, I was actually. mistaken earlier. 21 of his 22 fights have have not gone to a decision. I mean, this dude was, he was fighting for titles in KSW, five-round fights and has yet to see a fourth round in his career. He swings a hammer and it's not like Sean Strickland has the world's best chin. Yeah, I didn't even take over one and a half as the Seaburk special parley piece. Yeah, I mean, let's say he does gas. Like they're like, let's say he does gas and Strickdon could finish him.
Starting point is 00:28:17 For sure. Like I was a little more flirtatious on an under three and a half alternate line. Like getting a little. It's a better line. It's for sure a better line. But I decided to just take the stab at four and a half. I think four and a half smart. That's smart gambling.
Starting point is 00:28:32 That's how you play. All right. A couple other props just to get into bet on line offering these up. Now this is where the value is. Strickland's first F bomb at the pre-fight presser. Fucking. Fucker. Uh, ing is minus 200.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Er is plus 250. And just a straight up F bomb is plus 400. I originally, I thought, you know, to go with the chalk just because, you know, he drops fucking like their commas. Uh, I do think just straight fuck at plus 400 is, feels like some value there. You know, just get a what the fuck. Um, fuck this guy. Like the very first words out of his mouth could infathe. fact be, man, fuck this guy.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And no one would be surprised. So plus 400, I feel like that's the value of the three. Over under six F-bombs during Strickland's post-fight Octagon interview. I would hammer the under on this. 120-H-A. Not even kidding. Hammered the under. I've said this about Strong Strickland for years because I think there's a very clear
Starting point is 00:29:45 perception of who Sean Strickland is. I'm not here to argue that point. Sean Strickland in like that was that was a big narrative coming into the title fighters like what's Sean Strickland going to say like if he if he does win and he's your champion on the mic and I was very adamant like he's not going to say anything bad because Sean Strickland you know your mileage can vary about the quality of person he is but he's a pretty predictable one in the fact that he's not you know in pre-fight press conferences he might get a little untowar but every time he's been in a post-fight interview it's always the same lines it's always the same stuff he is to some extent cognizant of his position and what's expected and so it's like yeah you know i had a good fight
Starting point is 00:30:29 we trained our asses off he's pretty mellow though like he's fairly mellow uh in like after he's gotten the demons out through fighting he's pretty mellow dude so i would hammer the under on this one what happens if he loses and they don't talk to i was just about to ask that's the tricky thing i feel like that's a no i feel like that's a no bet at that point yeah it says no interview no action no i'm no action i was going to say though i think they will interview him if he loses and then you're i think you get a ton of f bombs so this is this kind of goes along with that's the thing i think if he loses he'll just be like there will be some but i think it'll just be like i don't know i fucking sucked i hate losing that i hate losing that piece of shit but i i six is a big number for an
Starting point is 00:31:13 that only ever last two minutes. They go really quickly, though. Once those F-bombs start flying, they go really fast. I mean, think about it this way. You remember when Danny Sabatelo did that, did the interview with John McCarthy at Belator, and John McCarthy was like, Danny, please don't curse or whatever. And Danny was like, I don't give a fuck, I'll do whatever the fuck I want. And John McCarthy started counting it out behind his head.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I think Sabatello got up to five when he was intentionally trying to curse. Like, six is a big number. That's a good one. So you say Hammer, the limit is only 30, but I mean, that's still like to win a half unit for me. Like I might, you're kind of talking me into this. Hammer six. I mean, I think it's good that they limit your experience on this. Anyone out there listening, if you could just hit any of us up on Twitter, let us know,
Starting point is 00:32:02 has there ever been more than six F-bombs in a post-fight interview? Now I'm kind of wondering. Nothing comes to my, Nate Diaz? No. Will Strickland make a gay reference? to DDP at the presser. Yes, minus 220, no plus 155. I don't like betting on this.
Starting point is 00:32:21 It seems like yes, it's a correct answer. Yeah, I'm not going to bet on it, but yeah. I was surprised. It was like minus 200 is value if you are comfortable betting on things like this. I mean, I think this should be way, I think this should be like minus 500. So please. You think it's like minus 1,000. Please don't, don't bet on this if you're out there.
Starting point is 00:32:39 But if you're a true degenerate, you can get the 55 on this one. That's really money they made there. I think you're limited to like winning $25 on each of them. One last one here. Strickland cries in his post-fight Octagon interview minus 500. No, yes, plus 300. There's just no world in which he cries, right? That's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I'm thinking there's just like this guy. I mean, especially how pissed he was after the crying on Theo Vaughn. Like he was just like, ah, this is bullshit. I don't think there's any way that he cries. Yeah, I don't think win or lose. I can't see it. Also, yeah, I just don't even know how he'd get there. Because the Theo Vaughn, like, I see why you cry there.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yeah, 100%. I don't think that that's, it doesn't feel like that's how Daniel Cormey is going to steer the conversation in the gauge. So let's talk about childhood trauma. It's like, no. Like, all right. So, yeah, no, I think that that would be a great parlay piece if you're looking to have some fun. Crazy that Bet Online has those.
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Starting point is 00:35:03 Rock Al Pennington taking on Myra, Buena, Silva. And right now, MBS, your favorite. Minus 162. Pennington coming back plus 136. This fight is terrible. I mean, yeah, the fight is. I want to bring the negativity and then egg hit and come over the top at the end with the positivity.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Bring it for all of us. I also dug into this on the tape and I was a little more positive coming into this. It was like, all right. MBS is on a great run. Seems like maybe she can be someone. And I think we all have. Like certainly in the MMA fighting, you know, back streets. We're talking about MBS.
Starting point is 00:35:41 you know, number one Banim weight in our rankings. Like maybe she can just be fun and exciting. As I watched a lot of tape, I was like, I think we've all just told ourselves a story because the truth is a world we don't want to live in. And the truth being this weight class is the worst weight class in sports. And no one, there are no saviors on the horizon. This is just going to be abysmal because MBS is on a good run,
Starting point is 00:36:09 but she is not, I don't think the ways that she makes hay are going to do well against Rocky Pennington. That being said, I'm Bettner. I'm Bettner minus 155. I don't feel great about it. I'm doing it almost as a supplication to the MMA gods that she wins this because Rock Hill Pennington can't finish people. I think she might physically be incapable of stopping opponents at this. juncture. And if she wins, on a great run, she was six in a row or whatever it is. But
Starting point is 00:36:45 if she wins, it's probably by split decision in a fight that isn't all that fun, whereas if MBS wins, at least there's a chance that she just dumped Rocky. Now, it's hard because Rocky's incredibly durable, but MBS is at least some level of finish her. So I'm taking MBS. I hope she approaches this with the same fervor she did with Holly home of just, Dude, I don't care. I'm just going to get in and try and roughhouse you because that'll at least make it some level of interesting. But if they're just doing, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:18 cardio kickboxing for 25, this is going to be a tough hang. How dare you question Raquel Panthers' finishing ability? She is second most, Jed, in submissions in the UFC's Women's Bantamint Division behind Rhonda Rousey. Rhonda Rousey has three. Raquel Payton has two. You hear all those qualifiers? You hear all those qualifiers?
Starting point is 00:37:38 I didn't hear them. Second most commission victories in the women's bantamway. I should add she is tied for second. She does not have. Tied. She is tied for second. It's probably two. It's only two.
Starting point is 00:37:52 So probably several other people. So she chisian and then when was her last finish prior to the Macy Chieson fight? And technically that fight and that's not even part of it because that wasn't a bantamway fight. That was a featherweight fight. So that's not even in there. Actually, that was like a 150 fight because Jason blew weight. featherways. She bulldog choked someone a long time ago, and then a rear naked choke of Jessica Androge,
Starting point is 00:38:15 which for the life of me, I cannot remember. I can't even believe that's true. I just pulled it up. Her last, like, reasonable finish is Jessica and Drodge. Jessica and Drodge. When she was a bantam weight almost a decade ago. It's even worse than I thought. It's still a good win.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It's still a quality win. You were saying about MBS before. Yeah. We were probably, we at the NBA fighting rankings committee, we're probably giving her a lot of love just for ending the reign of terror or folly home. We told ourselves a lie because she got three finishes in a row, and that is a magic act at women's 135. It is.
Starting point is 00:38:51 She is undefeated, competing at 135, not just in the U.S.C. in her career. She has never lost at 135 pounds. She has some losses on her record at 125. But I, and you said you are betting her. You are going to take her at minus 155. I'm betting her. I also have a prop. that we should talk about, but that we can do that in a bit.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Rocky is a fine underdog pick. I see plus 136 on Traff Kings. I mean, really, if she doesn't get finished. She doesn't get finished. I don't think Mara Brenno Silva is going to put her away. I don't think Pennington is going to put her away. So if it goes the distance, Rocky's not bad at winning decisions. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Is it crazy to think that Rocky sneaks out three rounds if it goes all five? Not in the slightest. She's a very, very nice underdog pick, fortunately. I was really interested. I was really interested. in finding a Rockout Pennington wins by split decision line and hoping that it's a big number and taking a little bit of a sprinkle on that. It's like plus 2.10.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Yeah, I'm sure it's not. I couldn't even find one yet. Have you guys? I thought about MBS by decision too, but then that just feels a little dumb given that she's three finishes in a row and it's not like Rocky Penitenton's a spring chicken. So wouldn't stun me if she got a finish. Have you looked at a lot of the finish props? No.
Starting point is 00:40:07 for either fight. They're all like plus 600 or higher. Yeah. I don't need to do. They know what they have to do against someone. Can I hit you as a fun stat boys with regard to that? Because in the year, 2023, 73% of UFC women's bantam weight fights went to a decision.
Starting point is 00:40:28 73%. So there's a reason no one's anticipating finishes, even though of the very few ones that, didn't, Meyer Boy and the Silva was a key contributor to those ones that didn't go to a decision. Sure was. This weight class is heavily reliant on judges. And so that's why I have taken the over one and a half as part of a nonviolence parlay, the Connerberg special for this fight.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I'm taking it. Yeah, much else to be said there, Raquel Pennington, 14, straight over one and a half, 20, over 23 in her career. NBS, I know three straight finishes, but four of her last. have also gone over one and a half. Bennington is tough to finish. I like the over one and a half. Why are we not just straight up betting fight goes the distance?
Starting point is 00:41:14 I see minus 105 for fight goes the distance. Are we not all just like? There is a world where there is a finish. I'm still believing Mara Buenos Silva can do the damn thing. And so I just don't think, even if she does the thing, I seriously doubt she does it before seven and a half minutes or up. These are famous last words, I feel like. I mean, definitely over two and a half.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I feel pretty comfortable. but I think it's going all the way. I think you should vote over two and a half than instead of goes to decision. I just go. I just don't see them. I just don't see them either one finishing either. McCle Payton is really tough to stop. She got like annihilated by Amanonnes and didn't even want to go out for the fifth round,
Starting point is 00:41:54 but still made it to the middle of that, of the, almost made it to distance against Amanda Nunes. And then I'm trying to see what was the other time she was stopped pre-UFC. Yeah, Katzengan. I know. Nymard, Armvar, caught by a gill, jump that gilly. Yeah, yeah, man. I'll say anybody in the world is tapping to the gilly she got on Holly. Oh, boy. No doubt, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:16 All right. All right. I like the over. I'm telling people out there, I think, I think go in the distance. I'm sorry, I think going the distance, but if you guys want to be safer, yeah, 1.5, yeah, that's fine. All right, let's keep it rolling. Next fight. We can move a lot quicker.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Okay, all right, all right. At this point. Neil Magny, taking on Mike Malott, Walterweight Division. in Mike Malach, Canada's future, the hopes, everything lies on the shoulders of Mike Malott, the entire city of Toronto. And he is currently a minus 345 going up against Neil Magny, which is a decent jump in competition. Like his last few fights, Adam Fuget, Johann Linesse, Neil Magne. Feels like a jump. However, he's also very undersized in this one.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Neil Magin have a pretty big, pretty big size advantage on them. Seven inch reach. Seven inches of reach. Stay at range. Neil Magny, vet, lesson. I still think he's going to get this thing to the ground. And once it gets to the ground, I think he has a sizable advantage over him. And Mike Malad will be hopefully finishing the Niagara Top Team parley for me.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Ooh, love that parlay. Just a heroic bit of effort from you there. Love a good gimmick. So I could maybe talk myself into that. Let's let me think. A.K., tell us about your Canadian brother, while I make some determinations here. People, my Canadian people are not going to like this because I feel very comfortable of picking Magni in this fight.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I think GC is right. The ground is always a problem for Magni. If Malat takes it there, then, I mean, submission or just, you know, grinding out a decision win, very likely, probably submission win. but the he was being i think he was understanding before i think the level of competition that we're jumping here um with respect to adam fugit johan lanis micky galle neil magni is levels above these guys levels and i know magni hasn't looked great in recent years i know he's getting a bit up there in the age i think he's 36 now he's still like a top 20 welterweight in the world now i get it
Starting point is 00:44:21 maybe people think malott is too maybe they think he's there and of course we're all like He said, we're all hoping. We like Mike Malott. He's got a bit of an it factor. He could be a real Canadian star. I think there might be a bit of reality check on Saturday. So my Canadians out there, I am so sorry, but I like the plus 300 or whatever you can get for Magnet.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It's going to be up around there, hover around there wherever you look. So I think it's right now. Yeah, the biggest you can get, you can get plus 300 on Neil Magny right now. I like it. I like it. I super don't like that. Yeah, I think there's just a really, really solid chance that. Neil Magne's washed.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Or if not all the way washed, like on the well-done side it cooked. The Phil Roe fight is just tough. Like Phil Roe is not great. And Neil Magne struggled a lot. And I was holding a ticket that required Neil Magne to win. And I was concerned for a long time. So Mike Malott, like, yes, this is a big step up in competition. But dude is looking very good.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Um, I flirted with Mike bought inside the distance at minus one 95 just because the, the big advantage on the ground. I do think you can get those takedowns. My question for you, Connor is just, because I'm, I'm interested. You're talking me into the Niagara top team parlay. Sure. Because one, I love a gimmick parlay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Another Niagara top team individual, Zach Powell fighting at unified him on Friday, he's an underdog against a man named Mark Holmey. Are you, is he in the Niagara top team? Is it a weekend, Pauli, or just a Saturday Niagara top team? Well, he sure is. You can get a line on bed online right now. That's what I'm looking up. Yeah, no, he's not going to be a part of it.
Starting point is 00:46:08 It's just going to be Jasmine Jezevicious and Mike Mila. That's a great catch by you, though. I'm not going to lie. And I'm floored right now that they actually have odds for that. That's what I was looking at. I was like, I think this other dude's fighting because I was looking through things. I was like, oh, there are odds. Well, when we talk about Jasmine Jazz DeVicious, let's circle back
Starting point is 00:46:28 Because I may jump in on the Niagara Top Team Palais, But if I do so, it will change a later bet So we'll circle back when we get to there. While we have just kind of been talking here, you know, most ranking systems only go to you know 15, 25 if they're if they're really thorough So like fight matrix goes very deep Yeah, that's good. They love it.
Starting point is 00:46:53 They do have they have Neil Magny ranked 18th. I'm currently in the 200 still trying to find Adam Fugia. I've found him the 217th ranked
Starting point is 00:47:04 wealther weight in the world. So we're jumping about 200 places here. Mike Millott ranked in the 70s as well. So a fair step up and old competition here for it's huge. And if the UFC gets this right, I mean this is why they keep guys
Starting point is 00:47:18 like Neil Magne around. So the booking makes sense. I, I get it. He should, based on the trends, he should beat him. But I, and, Jed, you're right. If you're like just watching Neil Magnet's recent fights, they're not inspiring. That's why the nicest way I could put it.
Starting point is 00:47:33 But I still feel like he has enough to spoil the party here. And it's going to be a rough, like, lead up to that Strickland DDP fight, by the way. They might see Mike Mollat lose and then five rounds of MBS in Pennington. And then hopefully that main event delivers. I thought you were the prince of positivity. Let's keep it rolling. Let's keep it rolling. we're still on the main card 45 minutes into this bad boy let's get it moving here
Starting point is 00:47:55 chris curtis mark andre barrio uh right now chris curtis your favorite minus 198 mab coming back plus 164 um yeah minus 200 chris curtis he's one and two in his last three he was he was well on his way to losing that imov fight um i don't know i mean he gets out struck and then like he kind of finds the knockout shot. I know we saw MAB get iced like two years ago against Cheaty, but like that's the only knockout loss he has. I don't know. I don't know who's going to win,
Starting point is 00:48:30 but I'm not going to back Chris Curtis at almost minus 200. I think that that's a terrific choice. I consider, and I guess I'm still considering a underdog shot on Mark Andre Beiro, but I got a few underdog plays. I kind of just don't want that many. on a fight that I don't feel like I have the best read on, but here's what I do have read on, ladies and gentlemen. It's that this fight's going to go over one and a half rounds.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Okay. You know, it's, of their 16 combined UFC fights, 12 of them have cleared that mark. Chris Curtis is not a big finisher, certainly early on, gets them a little bit later. It may be not nearly as durable as Chris Curtis, obviously, but I just think we're, I think we can clear the seven and a half. this is leg two of my non-violence parlay NAB plus three and a half minus 155
Starting point is 00:49:23 Don't hate that Don't ain't that at all That might be better than an MAB underdog shot Yeah I don't know I just feel like if it goes to a decision He will have one at least one round Very likely Yeah I'm not I'm not touching this one
Starting point is 00:49:38 I like the over I like the over Jed This fight could get middle weighty It could get a little middleweighty It could be So I think you're over one-a-half is solid. Yeah, I think, you know what? Adding bets late when I've kind of cemented it, it never works out well. So I'm just going to stay away.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yep, stay away. I agree. We roll on to the main card opener, Arnold Arnold, Almighty Allen, taking on Movesar, Evluwev right now, Evlwev, a favorite and growing. He is now minus 198 at Draft King Sportsbook. You can get Arnold Allen for plus 164. Plain and Simple. Team Almighty.
Starting point is 00:50:16 That's it. Arnold Allen's my guy. I'm betting on him. I got him at plus 145. Still took it. Oh. You know what it is. You know what it is.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Outside of the fact that I knew Arnold J'boy, and that's going to happen. Had to happen. And, I mean, one, Evlov not having a great week. Just these some things on social media that aren't lovely about him. I love this. We're diving into Sneiko stuff. Yeah. And we're not going to address the man by name.
Starting point is 00:50:51 That's unnecessary. Not giving him that shine on. Snakes. Not giving him that shine on, I mean, on UFC Vegas' number one betting podcast. We're not going to do that. But yeah, tough week there. And Arnold Allen has never had a tough week in his life in that regard because he's just a gym of a person. And also, I think he's got a pretty good job, man.
Starting point is 00:51:11 I did you all see the video today of them signing posters in the same room? I did not. Oh my gosh, yeah. So they're doing the poster signing and they were just sitting across the table from each other. Obviously being cordial. But I would have paid anything to be with Arnold Allen when we left the room just to hear what he said. Like he had to have just been like super calm about it, but just like, what the fuck was that? Why was I sitting across from my opponent?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Like that was ridiculous to me. Yeah, all the things you said and more. I'm sitting on a plus 145. You can get them at as high as plus 168. Ah, I see a plus 173 out there. So, yeah, we ride with the almighty. I got them at 165. Listen, I wasn't, you know, I was going to say I'm not part of the wolf pack, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:59 But can I join for this? Because I wasn't going to pick a winner. Our pack grows by one. I will absolutely go with our underdog pick. I didn't, that's a good looking odds. But my lock, this fight, though, has my. lock of the night. Over one and a half?
Starting point is 00:52:13 No, I'm going to say all the way it goes the distance. Over one and a half for sure. But I actually think it'll go the distance. What's over one and a half? Over one and a half is like minus 550. What's Arnold Allen by knockout? Yeah, that's the thing. I don't know how I feel about it over one and a half.
Starting point is 00:52:28 What's Arnold Allen by submission? I think Arnold might come in here and just get rugged. He's not a, he's not a fast finisher. I mean, this is not a... Arnold Allen by submission plus 750. Arnold. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:38 In round two. Don't tell this to Dan Hooker. That's one guy. Dan Hooker can run over. Okay, that's fine. I'll tell this to Sadiq. Yusuf, Nick Lentz, Gilbert Melendez, Jordan Rinaldi, Matt's Brinnell. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:52:51 I think he's best served by just coming and getting a little rugged in there. He is. If Mavsar can't get takedowns, Arnold Island is 50-50, if not substantially favored to the fight at that point. I'm not sure he can. But also, Mavsar can get into brawls. We saw Diego Lopez draw him into some brawls. Lovov can get in some dicey spots, too.
Starting point is 00:53:10 That's why I kind of mentioned. the submission angle probably won't happen but like if i wasn't already on arnold allen uh as just a straight underdog i would be tempted by ronald allen by ko i mean plus i think this is almost i think there's almost no chance either these guys finished the other guy yeah i think this i'm so strongly on this going the distance over one and a half is probably smarter minus because minus 550 minus 500 is not like that big a big difference so over one to half i think is that's a very firm walk i can't can't see anyone just bumrushing the other guy and taking them out.
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Starting point is 00:54:47 And right now he is your favorite on draft kings going at minus 198, armfield plus 164, the exact same line as Mosaar versus Arnold Allen. Yeah, I mean, we got AK here. It feels like a little reunion. We're talking a tough fighter. You know I'm taking Brad Kay. I mean, he's got to stand up for the ultimate fighters out there. Just come in here
Starting point is 00:55:09 Just make it a Brad Katona fight man Don't get too crazy Take him down Make it boring Win by decision I just your handraised I like I like Garrett Arnfield
Starting point is 00:55:22 But like I think this would be my most shocking result If he beat Brad Katona Two losses by sub We've seen him struggle to get taken down Okay Yeah Like I uh Yeah I feel like where he struggles
Starting point is 00:55:34 Cotona excels I think so as well Yeah Can't bet against them. Can't do it. I'm excited to hear you guys say this because in my notes, I just have one line that says default to the tough hang crew. They obviously know what's going on as far as this goes.
Starting point is 00:55:50 And Brad Catona, you know, minus, get them like minus 180, minus 185. All right, punching in a bet. Let's go. That's a, that's a tailor-made 3027. Yes, sir. Bray-K. Taylor-made. Bray-Kat-Hontown, not hometown, sorry, home country pop.
Starting point is 00:56:06 What's a Brad Catitona? a minus three and a half points, huh? What's a Brad Katonel minus three and a half points? I'm looking at plus 155. Maybe a little sprink. Maybe a little, another unit on old Brad K. Maybe. I'm going to do that instead of Bracketon or straight.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I don't mind that. Plus 155, that feels better. Yeah, plus 155. All right, let's keep it rolling. Next up, Charles Jordane, Air Jordane, taking on Sean the sniper Woodson. And right now, Charles Jordan, your favorite, minus one. Woodson plus 145.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I do not have anything here. I got love for Sean Woodson. He's going to be bigger. He always is. But I'm just going to pass on this one. Are you concerned that Woodson's going to have built up a lead, but then heading into the final round, you know, third round Jordan will strike again.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Oh, God. And ruin your bet. Is that what's keeping you away from being John Woodson? You know what? I completely, I'd completely, I'd completely blocked that out of my mind until you brought that up. A.K., I don't know if you're aware of who third round Jordan is. No one is safe.
Starting point is 00:57:17 No one is safe. No one is safe from third round Jordan. And just want to remind you, he has won in the third round. In the last, like, how many fights does this guy have? 21. Well, he's got three first round, third round finishes. in his entire career. And he has won in his last, like, 17 fights.
Starting point is 00:57:43 But for some reason, people love betting. Third round Jordan. They love it. Apparently, his first time fighting in Canada in the UFC did not realize that. I was what I was saying in the UFC, yeah. Yeah, yeah. First time fighting in Canada. No, certainly not.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Far for TKO. He did. So first time in the UFC. This is his first time in Toronto. It's definitely, yeah. It's just a Montreal, dude. He's a Montreal boy. I kind of like him at plus 175 to finish.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I'm going inside the distance plus 175. I think he's going to find something. Do you think it's going to happen in the third round? It could happen in the third round. You might as well do the third round. Yeah, so I'm playing it safe. Oh, I'll just pick third specifically go for the big juice. No, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I could see it happening early too. I think he's going to be juiced up by the, by fighting in Canada. So I'm going, I'd like a finish. I mean five first round finishes, four second round finishes, three third round finishes. But he is, you know, the legendary creature that is. third round. Jordane in the UFC won
Starting point is 00:58:40 finish via third round. 11 fights that he did not get a finish in the third round. But people will be betting it. People will be betting it third round. Jordane. Shout out. Shout out. All right. Let's keep it rolling. Sir Hay, Cidi, taking on Roman Tavaris.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Right now the rematch. Everybody's waiting for. I know Jed's been waiting for it. I do have to say that. We got defer to him on this one. I was going to say Cidi, your favorite. minus 180, Tavares, plus 150. And that's exactly what I will do here. I will defer, as you defer to us on tough,
Starting point is 00:59:14 we will defer to you on Contender Series. They fought just a few months ago. I mean, given my track record on Consender Series predictions, I'm not sure I would stick with that. Tough outs for my number one draft pick from Contender Series last week. Oh, yeah, Tom Nolan, he got iced. Tom Nolan got real clubbed real bad. I mean, look,
Starting point is 00:59:37 Jean Silva delivered. I was right on that one, so 50-50. So I'm staying away from this fight. I'm honestly, I was tempted a little bit by a shot on Tavares. Coming out the Condender Series, the first fight is nonsense. It's one of the worst stoppage in you'll ever see. Terrible stop.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I mean, Citi was probably winning the fight before then, but not, you know, not in a way that this is meaningful. And then Tavares did rebound with a really impressive win over. He was massively favored over on the contender series finale, killed him in like 20 seconds or whatever. Tavares hits real hard. Citi is a better grappler, much bigger,
Starting point is 01:00:22 and can compete on the feet. I don't feel confident laying the favorite juice on Citi, even though I think he's probably a better prospect. I had him listed as a special teamer in my breakdown, whereas Tavares was just another guy. But I think there's a world where Tavares get this done, but I'm just not going to be involved in this fight. Too many outcomes.
Starting point is 01:00:45 No need to place a wager on this, but it would be a doggar pass for me. Yeah. Yep. Passing as well. I agree with that. Let's keep it rolling on to the next one. Gillian Robertson taking on Pollyanna, Viana. Right now, Jillian, your favorite, minus. 250, Pollyanna, Viana, plus 205.
Starting point is 01:01:08 This could be a fun fight. I do feel like Gillian Robertson is going to get this to the mat. It might be sweaty for a little bit because Viana, you know, she can knock people out. She's got some hands, but I do think Robertson is going to get it to the ground and she's going to use that jihitsu, that grappling. And she's going to get it done for Team Canada. Give me a round, G.C. Do you have a round in mind? I'm going to say round two. I'm actually going to say knockout instead of submission.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I'm a zig where everyone's zagging. I'm going to say she's going to lay down some heavy elbows and round and pound. I hate to hear this. Oh, my God. Why are you guys taking Gillian Robertson by submission? Specifically round two. So I think that's good. We did it.
Starting point is 01:01:49 We did it. We did it, Jed. We did it. I was ready to come on this podcast and I was setting up the third round Jordan for this fight. So we're talking about second round Robertson. Round two Robertson is much more. of a creature third round jordane five of her nine wins have come in the second round most of those
Starting point is 01:02:09 are submissions i think there's one tk o in there uh paulina viana has never been uh knocked out but she has been finished she has been submitted a couple of times i do think she's going to get this fight down and so i have taken a little sprinkle on uh robertson round two submission i'm by sprinkle i'm putting a half unit on it a half unit plus 700 for round two robertson there you go we all remember the Sarah Frodo fight are you getting almost from out round two
Starting point is 01:02:37 I mean it can happen plus 2,000 for round two Robertson K.O. Am I seeing this correctly where I'm looking? That's what I'm seeing yeah and you're gonna are you actually gonna half a unit? Definitely not half a unit no two 10 I don't know what your units are
Starting point is 01:02:52 I just say I don't know what your units are I would maybe put like point like five bucks on it point one okay okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't know I don't know if I'm gonna take that I was kind of pulling that out of my ass. I didn't know everyone was prepped with a round two. I didn't know AK was prepped with round two Robertson.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Let's do it. I'm just saying we're trendsetters. We're on the forward edge of, of MMA kind of understanding. Round two Robertson. It's the new third round Jordan. I love it. Round two K.O.
Starting point is 01:03:20 plus 2,000. I mean, that's just throwing a dart. That's just throwing a dart and hoping for the best. Yeah. All right. Let's keep it rolling. I am on her money line. though it doesn't I took it back in November it was a much better price minus 140 back in
Starting point is 01:03:37 back in November on draft king sports book uh we roll along though Johan lioness Sam Patterson Sam Patterson making the move up to welterweight uh in this one and he is your underdog plus 124 lioness uh your favorite minus 148 uh man can't trust Sam Patterson here I mean, he was massive, that lightweight, massive. Six inch of height, 10 inch reach advantage against Yanalashmous. And he got sparked out, man, sparked right out. Now he's moving up to welterweight, taking on a proper size welterweight in Johan. I mean, if Johan is pulling the trigger, I think he's just going to knock Sam Patterson out.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I'm a more bold man than you. I have decided to place my money on Sam Patterson. Again, much like with Matthew Simulsberger, knowing how this goes wrong, being fully aware of how this goes wrong and just saying to myself, you know, there was a lot of belief in Sam Patterson coming into the UFC.
Starting point is 01:04:45 And yes, he gets knocked out, but Johan Lennes is not like the best fighter. I think he's going to be slower, certainly a lot slower than, you know, Alash moose. And so it'll be a little bit harder. I also think moving up to Walter Way is probably good for Patterson. I'm going to channel be able to take things a little bit better, fill out a little bit more,
Starting point is 01:05:10 underdog against a guy I don't think is very good versus a guy who at least at one point had some hype to him. Didn't Patterson get wobbled pretty bad on the contender series, though? I don't recall. But again, that's what the move up to Walterweight is for. You know, you don't cut as much You're stronger guys No, but you don't cut as much weight
Starting point is 01:05:32 So you're you can take those blows and get it going Yeah, best of luck to you man Again, I know how this loses when it loses I have clear eyes to the path to defeat here He does it, he is a talented kid I bet on talent, bet on talent That's what I'm doing here I have no comment on this one
Starting point is 01:05:56 or the next fight, but I am, I do have a parley note for both these, this fight and the next one. So I will save my comments for that. All right. 125, flyweight, Jasmine, Jazz DeViscius, taking on Priscilla,
Starting point is 01:06:10 Cachewara. Great name, name bout here. Jazz Davicius versus Cachewara. Great. Jasmine, your favorite, minus 375, Cachewara, plus 295. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:23 I mean, one time, I bet against Jasmine. How'd that go for you? She 30-26th, old Gabriella Fernandez. At least she didn't make you hear about it, you know? It tweeted at me from the locker room. I mean, I'm talking about like instantly after the fight, tweeted at my ass, you know, letting me know she stole my money.
Starting point is 01:06:45 She took my money right out from under me. And then I was like, I'm always going to back her from now on. She fights Miranda Maverick, Caches as a massive underdog. It's okay. She lost her last fight. I will always be on the Jasmine Jazz Divacius train. She is the first leg, the second one I'm talking about, of the Niagara Top Team Parlet. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:07:06 So, please, please go. Just real quickly, again, yeah, I don't really care to pick a winner here. I mean, I do think, I do think Jasmine is going to win. Yeah, I was going to say it is Jasmine. It is Jasmine. And I think the fight, I think over one and a half, I think I saw that also at minus 300. Pretty safe. Yeah, Jasmine doesn't finish anyone.
Starting point is 01:07:24 She's never been finished. If it does get finished, it'll be some weird thing that happens in round three for one of the fighters. It will be catchware throwing 90 elbows in a row. Right. Something like that. Just spamming left elbows. So take the one and a half, play it safe. That's what I say.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Don't be hero. I have done that. That one and a half rounds out my tripod of nonviolence. Nice. Which pays out at plus 118. Feel pretty solid about that particular parley. Here's the question, gentlemen. And I'm a big fan of the Niagara Top Team Parley.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I didn't take it. I had Mike Malat and then I didn't really have a parlay leg for him to pair with because they didn't want to put him in the nonviolence. It was just sort of floating. And then I knew you were going to be on Jasmine Jazz DeVicious. And as I looked at this fight, I was like, why would anyone ever bet Jasmine Jazz DeVicious to win a fight when you can bet her to win by decision?
Starting point is 01:08:13 And the by decision prop for her is minus 125. I mean, that's just it. So the question is, do I go just take Jasmine straight and parlayer with Mike Malat? Or do I just stick with my original guns, Jasmine Jazz DeVicious, by decision? I'm not going to do both. I'm not doubling up on jazz. I think you go by decision, but then you hear me out and you actually do double up in a way. I was going to say.
Starting point is 01:08:38 But here's how you double up. You take yourself the Canadian favorite parlay, which I have done. I was wondering if we were going to get there. We have to, yeah, we're going to, I've made a note of that as well. How many legs is the Canadian favorite? Favorite parley? Favorites only? Eight legs.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Yeah. Eight legs. It's a healthy parlay. Malcolm Gordon, Jasmine, Jesdivis, Johann Linus, Julian Robertson, Sir Hay Cudy, Charles Dordane, Brad Cotonin, Mike Mila, plus 2534. I did throw a quarter unit on it to win 6.35. And yeah, I mean, I'll be singing O Canada all week if that bad boy is.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I mean, just going to end immediately. He almost... Yeah, this is a very, very good chance that this puppy dies on the first fight of the night. Yeah, I guess I should mention now, if by some chance you're failing first-gain, doing all Canadians, period, and you want to throw on Mark Andre, who's the only Canadian underdog on the card, it juices it up real nicely. Oh, it juices it up for sure. On Drap Kings, it goes up to plus 6,657.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Legitimately, I... That's way more interesting to me than the Canadian favorite parlay. I actually don't think either are going to be that interesting because I think it's going die fairly early. It was a very, very good chance it dies quickly. If you want to have a Canadian part, besides the excellent Niagara team part, that's probably the safest one. I love it.
Starting point is 01:10:01 I'll probably jump on that instead of the suggested one. But if someone's feeling crazy, I think Jasmine, Lainis, Gillian Robertson, Jardine, Cotonna. I think that's plus 582. And I think you're okay. If you really want to have some fun, because I think a lot of the other legs are shake. We'll talk about the Gordon leg in a second. That leg is extremely shaky. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:21 I don't think. Like I said, it could end right at the beginning of the night. That's no fun. I mean, that's what we wanted to do. Is she born there? She's born there. She trained in Florida, I'm pretty sure. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Yeah, she is born in that. So you just teased it. Let's get to it. The last fight of the night. First fight once we get to the actual card in the men's flyweight division. Malcolm Gordon taking on. Jimmy Flick. Right now, Malcolm Gordon,
Starting point is 01:10:51 is your favorite. Malcolm Gordon is the favorite at minus 166, Jimmy Flick coming back at plus 140. Yeah, so like, why even choose aside? I mean, when you're looking at two guys with losing records in the UFC at earlier, it was close to coin flip odds. I guess a lot of money coming in on Malcolm Gordon and respectively, they've both been, you know, they've both been finished six and seven times apiece. So who do you trust? The good news is, We don't have to trust anyone, baby. We just get to trust that this one's going to be a good little scrap because flyweight unders are back, baby.
Starting point is 01:11:29 And this happens to be a fight taking place in the men's flyweight division. And boy, did we get two good candidates to keep the flyweight train rolling? Jimmy Flick, 14 straight fights have not gone to a decision. Six of his last seven under one and a half. Malcolm Gordon, 12 of his last 13, have not gone to a decision. 11 of those 12 finished under the one and a half. I mentioned both have been finished many, many times. They almost exclusively lose by finish.
Starting point is 01:12:02 I think they have 14 losses together, and 13 of them they've been finished in, and they get finished. They get finished and they get finishes. I think this one is not going to see the scorecards. And it happens quickly, my brother, because of their nine combined UFC fight seven under the one and half.
Starting point is 01:12:22 I love it. And that's the flatweight under I'm on. I'm on the under one and a half. I'm on the under one and a half. And I have the under two and a half in a parlet. Love it. Are you guys seeing on the bet online under two and a half minus 105? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:36 That's a mistake. If you actually go to bet online, it's under one. I would hope so. Oh my gosh. I was like, that's free. That's free money. That would be the first ever 10 unit or. I would have been a 10 unit.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I'm not kidding. I did see it. And I immediately went to bed online to confirm. firm that that was a mistake because I was like like Connor I was like all right we're about to we're about to have a good day I said uh I mean I saw that like it was there and I think it was there for five minutes I saw one guy be like oh man this fucking line was crazy I dumped on it and then they immediately shifted it to the one and a half still good one and a half still very good if you're hunting on bed online when these things open up you can get some insane insane
Starting point is 01:13:18 lines. They typically are fairly limited, but still, they, they give some crazy ones. Uh, so that's that. To start the year on Flywood Unders. Whoop. Oh, we're so bad. That's so fun. That's so fun. That's fun. Uh, yeah. So, Flywood unders on even years. Odd years were out. Even years, we're done. I like that. Ooh, we need more data, but okay. I like that. I'm going, uh, I'm going Gordon Flick under one and a half, Gillian Robertson, Money Line, Brad Cotona Money Line, Arnold Allen Money Line, Dup Plus East Strickland under four and a half. Parley, Niagara Top Team, Jasmine Jazz DeVisius, Mike Milott,
Starting point is 01:13:52 and then a prop parlay, Gordon Flick under two and a half, Linnes, Patterson, under two and a half, Buena Silva, Pennington, over one and a half, and then the Canadian favorites parlay that I mentioned earlier. Strikas duplice, Maya Buena Silva, Arnold Allen, just a number of straight Sam Patterson.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Brad Cotona. We added Brad Cotona in. Big BK! We're round two Robertson by sub. Round two Robertson, obviously a thing. Jazz DeVicious by decision and then of course Flyweight unders their back baby and non-violence parley
Starting point is 01:14:25 Curtis, Mark Andre Barrio, Jazz DeVisius, Casuala and Pittington Buena Silva all over one and a half. That's my action. What's that? Eight, nine bets? Pretty decent. I did not write down all my bets so people just rewind the episode if you want to
Starting point is 01:14:41 quick tally those. Some of them I'm really all in on. A lot of these overs. A lot of these overs. A lot of these overs seem very, very safe. Bingo. On this card. So they go. If you want to make a decent...
Starting point is 01:14:52 Of course they're safe. It's Canada. It's a nonviolent country. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's a country about respect and being nice and genial to
Starting point is 01:15:03 the visitors there. And making people money. There you go. Hopefully. Who bet on overs. What are your favorite overs for this week? Instead of the bets, what are your favorite overs,
Starting point is 01:15:12 I like I say, I feel so strongly about Arnold Allen of Lov. I know. we think if Alan does come out firing, that's the way he wins the fight. We just don't see it very often. He doesn't. So, over, I mean, listen, Alan Ivoev,
Starting point is 01:15:27 Pennington, Buenos Silva, again, another fight I know if MBS is going to win, people like the finish, but this is going to the distance, man. I'm sorry, not that these two are finishing each other. Can we be real hair? And Curtis MAB is also a good one. So really, three, and of course, Jasmine and Kachwera. So Jasmine and Kacharra and
Starting point is 01:15:46 Allen and E. Floyd, those are my two favorite overs. People might disagree with the Allen one, but I feel strongly about him. All right. That's that. UFC 2 97 Toronto, Canada. Absolutely cannot wait for this one. Enjoy boys. I mean, we're back.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Paper views rolling right along. AK, you're going to be in the building? I will be in the building. Great Jose will also be there. Let's be a party. Let's go. Since AK will be there, like they're all week. week, we could unload on those Sean Strickland presser props and just get him to sort of nudge Strickland in the right way.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah, you might have to delete this episode. Our count is down. Like we're going to need some more fucks or whatever it is that we're looking for. So just just ask him, hey, Sean, can you say fuck that fucking fucker and get us to where we need to be? You might have to delete this episode. Otherwise, we could be in a lot of trouble. That's all I'm saying. All right, John, next week, no card.
Starting point is 01:16:45 we'll be back in the great month of February to preview Naserdin Imova versus Roman Deleet. A big month, big month for the country of Georgia, big month for anyone from Georgia, which is me and Jed. So see in two weeks, see in February. Enjoy the first pay-per-view.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Love y'all.

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