MMA Fighting - No Bets Barred: What Should We Expect From Ronda Rousey And Gina Carano?

Episode Date: May 14, 2026

Ronda Rousey and Gina Carano really are about to fight each other. This Saturday, the biggest MMA event of all time will take place when Rousey and Carano square off against each other at MVP MMA 1, ...broadcast on Netflix. Rousey has been out of the cage for nearly a decade, while Carano hasn’t fought in 17 years, raising the question, what exactly can we expect from these two WMMA pioneers on fight night? Well, No Bets Barred is here to tell you. This week, host Jed Meshew is joined by Alexander K. Lee to dive into all things MVP MMA 1. Topics discussed include how Rousey and Carano might look after the long layoffs, whether Nate Diaz should be an underdog to Mike Perry, Philipe Lins’ chances against Francis Ngannou, and the rest of the card. Then, the boys hop over to UFC Vegas 117 where they take a quick look at Arnold Allen vs. Melqi Costa, Daniel Santos vs. Doo Ho Choi, and more. Tune in for episode 156 of No Bets Barred. Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alexander K. Lee: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AlexanderKLee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to MMA Fighting⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out our full video catalog⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Like MMA Fighting on Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:19 What is up, y'all? We are back with another edition of No Bet's BARD and a rarity. Something that never happens, a show where we're barely going to talk about the UFC. Maybe not barely, but they are not the primary driver this weekend. That is right, fresh off the heels of UFC 328. We are now on the road to MVP MMA1, aka Ronda Rousey, returning to fight Gina Carrano in what will almost assuredly be the most watched MMA fight of all time.
Starting point is 00:02:13 But we will dive into all that, the rest of that car. and of course we will also talk UFC Vegas 117, a bit of a full-blown double header, and kind of works out because, let's be honest, the UFC card's quite bad, one of the worst on paper ever assembled. I've been saying that a lot, but it's very true. The Rousey Carrano card, some highlights,
Starting point is 00:02:38 and then a lot of stuff that you just aren't going to know or care anything about in the undercard. So if you blend the two together, You can get one Frankenstein of a pretty good fight week. And we are here to do just that. And I say we, because when you were embarking on a mission to create life in a demonic way, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:03 with some lightning and a full-blown Frankenstein, who better? Who would you want more than the king in the north himself? A man for whom I, you know, got a couple of his brethren competing this weekend, Alexander Cayley, A.K., how you doing, buddy? I'm back. I'm back on the show, Jed. Mr. Don't bet on MMA, the perfect man for no-beds-part, I say.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Jedd, it's been a while since I've been on. Now, this is no-bet's part. Anything goes. Correct. I could say, I'm throwing money off Philippe Lins, and you're just going to be like, you just roll with it. The bet is not bored. It's allowed.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I could say Gina Krono by submission, and you're just like, yep. Also allowed. The only bet that is, that is, that, is barred on this episode is whichever ones you tell me because you have to you're you're coming in as my climb consultant yes we should let people know because we lost the last week uc328 my best week of the year uh finished up like six units i think oh good uh nailed a bunch of underdogs you know i nailed the jim miller bet uh roman koppelov paid off like nailed almost all of my bets last week and one half of the climb went down but the main event
Starting point is 00:04:15 Hamzaa Chimaev. Again, a fight. I thought he won, but not a robbery. Don't start, Jed. Don't start right now. He definitely won. Stone Cold robbery. The judges took this climb away from the A.K.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And so we started new this week. A couple of things we got our eyes on. A couple of things we're circling. But the only bets bar to the ones you say, no, no, no, no, no, no, Jed. We can't be doing that. We've got to be a little more cautious with our climb. Jim Miller, you just took him straight, right?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Took him straight. That was sweet. It was Jim F. That felt so good. It felt good to bet it and it felt real good to win it. The thing is, it felt good to bet it. I was traveling at the time he was fighting, so I didn't see it. I just got the notification on my phone.
Starting point is 00:04:59 And I was like, way to go, Jim F. Miller. We love that for you. Had all of last week nailed except for the main event, which I couldn't have been more wrong on and paid the price. Now, I should tell people, I already, you and I already had an off-camera dispute about the climb. I am saying, so as your consultant, I would like to recommend one step a week for at least the first 10 steps.
Starting point is 00:05:23 That's my, but we have two shows this week. And so I know you are very tempted to have two, take two steps this week. We'll get to that. I think one of them's obvious, but we'll see. We'll talk about it. There are things out there. I'm just saying there are things available with how many, hold on. Let me look this up.
Starting point is 00:05:40 We got 13 UFC fights and 11 MVP fights. It is 24 fights. It's a lot of opportunity to get climbing. We got one championship, too. Oh, there's... Wait, is that card also? I think so on Friday. I think you need to give...
Starting point is 00:05:56 Is that the Rugwork fight? I think you need to give Malikin another chance after he... He destroyed a previous climb. Oh, no, no, you didn't bet that fight. I think you didn't bet that. No, no, he did destroy that climb. He did. 100...
Starting point is 00:06:09 Or no, you... Maybe you're right. Maybe I... Yeah. Maybe you talked me out of betting it. No, or the opposite. I thought I tried to... Oh, was it?
Starting point is 00:06:15 Oh, that night had been right. You said you're like, I'm not touching this. That does sound right. I've lost so many clans at this point. It's hard to keep track. Now is your chance to make it a step. Ooh, Shamil Gassanov versus Kai Tang. Yeah, we got one coming up too.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I mean, it's a one card, so it's like two MMA fights, but some stuff is happening there. Is RugRourg on this card? It's, I'm confused. I think they have. Not on this card. don't think. I know they have a one fights card
Starting point is 00:06:48 coming up. Anyway, we've gone off track here, but yes, I'm looking at, we have gone completely off the I'm so sorry, I'm looking at topology. I don't see it on there, but I believe. Oh, it is. He is fighting on May 15th. That's right. Friday. There's a card on, uh, there are two cards on, on, uh,
Starting point is 00:07:08 wow, one is doing two cards on the same night. It's kind of the same. Jed, you just, you know what? A choice. I don't want you to do two steps, but maybe you should do three steps. Because imagine you just, you go Malikin and you just wake up Friday morning. This is at 7.30 in the morning. So you wake up, by the time you wake up Friday morning, I don't know if the car will be over,
Starting point is 00:07:25 but you can already know, you could already have one step up on the mountain before Rousie and Crown or even starts. And when I get burned, I could just reload right away. You just kind of looked at the mountain and just kind of like, nope. If somebody who watched that first fight and was a big supporter of Anatoly Malikin, I'm not looking forward to watching that on Friday, but you bet I will be doing that because what else are we here for?
Starting point is 00:07:49 But, okay, we are like I said, 24 fights to get to. We're not going to spend an infinite amount of time on most of them, but we need to get cracking. And as I said at the top, we are going to start with the big show this weekend. Full disrespect intended to Vegas 117. The big show is absolutely Netflix's MMA debut, Ronda Rojas, Eugena, Karano,
Starting point is 00:08:11 and all the rest. and we will start at the top. Things are going to be a little different this week, AK, because a lot of these fights I don't have, like, this main event in particular, what can we say about Ronda Rousey versus Gina Carrano? You know, we could talk about their various accomplishments, Ronda Rousey being 12 and 2 in her MMA career, but Ronda hasn't fought in almost a decade with like nine years and some change.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Gina Carrano hasn't fought in almost, two decades, 17 years since Gina Krono last stepped into the cage. The differences in the sport from then to now are astonishing. At some point this week, I thought about doing just a nonsense column of like, here's what was going on in the world the last time Gina Karrano fought because 2009 was a lifetime away. Most of Gina Krono's career wasn't. even contested in like five minute rounds you know like it is we are so beyond any kind of
Starting point is 00:09:20 not like reasonable prediction as far as you know we can't i can't feel confident anything i suspect that gina carano coming into this fight and at the ripe old age of 44 we don't age shame here but 44 years old 20 years removed from any real athletic endeavor almost 20 years like probably not going to come in being the best version of herself and the best version of herself would have still gotten absolutely rolled up by Ronda Rousey. Rhonda Rousey, you know, coming into this, 10 years removed from her athletic, like athletically competing, though you maybe knock her few back, she did do pro wrestling,
Starting point is 00:09:59 a lot of athleticism involved there, but also coming into this after previously discussing retiring from the sport due to severe brain issues. this is a lot of variables let's just say that in this fight but the variables you know for whatever they are the odds makers aren't seeing them or they're simply not carrying ronda rousey
Starting point is 00:10:22 a primitive betting favorite minus 550 for rousey the comeback on crano plus 400 aka gonna be a really big fight I'm genuinely intrigued by this fight what do we make of this fight yeah i love it Listen, I loved it from the day it was announced.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I had no idea this was coming. I still remember seeing that thing pop up, and I was just like, wow, this is like, this is real? You know, you got double check accounts. You're double checking like, oh, is this an I or one in this account in the end? I'm like, oh, this is real. Like, this is an actual thing. And anyone who's listened to me or read anything I've written about this card kind of heading into it is like the overall card I've kind of lost my enthusiasm for just because
Starting point is 00:11:02 it's so, like, actual MMA, you know? And I think a lot of people have been saying it feels like the buzz has died down. Which is understandable. They've been doing a ton of media. Everyone involves been doing a ton of media. Rhonda, Gina, Jake Paul, Nekisa. Even Nate Diaz is making the rounds. I mean, even he has kind of been doing the job and, like, making the appearances.
Starting point is 00:11:20 So they've been doing what you're supposed to do when you're promoting a fight, but it's weird. It's just kind of, I guess there's no super compelling angles. Rhonda and Gina are very buddy-buddy. So, yeah, it's kind of lost some of its steam. And, yeah, as for like, you know, from a betting perspective, I'm very curious. I would love to know. I don't know how odds makers work in general. I would love to know where they started with this.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Because it's just like, yeah, you know, clearly Ronda is the more accomplished better fighter, younger. I would think, I think considerably better athlete. But yes, when you've taken two people who haven't fought in years and years and years upon years, how can you set a reasonable line? So I think they did okay. Like, I think the line makes sense. But I don't know. I don't know if people feel like Ronda should be minus 1,000 or should be less of a favorite.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Because like you said, saying, hey, I probably shouldn't get hit in the head anymore. Um, yeah, it's, but I, I'm just still think, regardless of the rest of the card, I'm really looking forward to this main event. I can't help it. I'm looking forward to it. I'm, I'm with you. Like I, that's the thing, man. I, this is appropriate matchmaking in that I think I know what's going to happen. I'll be pretty surprised if it doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It won't be stone shocked because again, there's such long layoff that like, I can't, maybe Ronda's just completely fallen apart in the ensuing 10 years. We can't strike that out of the possible. possibility. But it's just, it is, this is absolutely kind of a train wreck sort of like, I got to look, I got to see, I have to know what this is. If this was Ronda Rousey returning to fight Valentina Shvchenko, I'd be far less interested. It was like, Ronda's just going to die. Like, Ronda is just going to get clubbed around. If she came back to the U.C. to fight Amanda again or Kayla, yeah, Ronda's going to die. But that's not. And so this is interesting. on top of how does their personal dynamic play into this?
Starting point is 00:13:12 Because as you mentioned, they have both been Super Buddy Buddy. They have tried to couch it and say like, we're competitors. We're going to really compete. But the core concept for Rhonda returning was, as she has stated many times, you know, Gina Crono just looked like she was in a really bad spot in life. And I wanted she meant so much to me to be the sport. I wanted to lend her a hand if I could. and this felt like a way to do it.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Okay, fair enough. Like, are you going to not break her arm off instantaneously when you get in there? If that's the case, is this going to look more like a, you know, a friendly sparring session between teammates? We have seen fights break out like that. Where people who, you know, don't have animosity, maybe don't try as hard, especially when you're this far removed from really competing, I think it's very possible that, they just probably wouldn't be that sharp anyway, given the sheer amount of time off. But like, how does this break down? How of all of that, I'm super fascinated.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I will tell you, A.K., a lot of props I'm looking at. But the big thing here, of course, is Ronda Rousey for Climbbet this week. Minus, you know, slightly over the line. But within the plus minus of what we accept here, is this an okay climb bet for you? It is. I wholeheartedly support it. I don't like that. little bit out of the range.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I think your range is minus 500, right? That's like the maximum. Minus 500 is the, that's the magic number, but minus 50 is okay because at various points we'll hit a minus 400. I have a,
Starting point is 00:14:50 next to my desk, I keep a pace chart, basically. So also, great point in time. I always forget to do this for possible new listeners. If you don't know
Starting point is 00:14:59 what the climb is, the climb has been my obsession for not quite a year, but eight, nine months. The goal is to string together 30 minus 500 bets and roll them one over the other. Originally we wanted to start with $100 and if you do that, you get to over $20,000 if you can make it to the top of this particular
Starting point is 00:15:20 mountain. I got two step 21, which was, I mean, just riding high before that came crashing down. And I have not since made it back to double digits, so much so that I was losing so much money on this endeavor. We have now knocked it back to a $50 wager and instead of a $100 wager because a $10 wager is just like nothing, you know? And so we might get to a stage where that just becomes the goal. But it also feels like I would be a little more risky with a $10 wager, at least a $50 wage. There's enough weight there to make me not totally bottom it out. And so I keep a chart next to my desk of like where, how many climb bets, where do I want to be, what's my pace for I want to be going?
Starting point is 00:16:06 So minus 550 is okay. We can work around that. Yeah, Jedd, because you know why? Because this is the one that's going to work. And if however many X amount of attempts have failed, maybe you've got to tweak the formula a bit. Maybe you got to say the limit is minus 600 instead of minus 500, right? Maybe you got to throw a few minus 550s, minus 525s in there. You know, you can't be so rigid because this is the one that's going to work.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Now, that's said. That's set. Did you consider the sexier rousey by subbet for the client? So I did not because that just... Two to one. That's one well beneath the target number. That feels more like a bet that you would just be making too bad on it because it's two to one odds. True, true.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I was kind of interested in... And this is moving away from the climb. I'm a little interested in the overs here. You got your alternate over lines. This is a five-round fight. I doubt it goes five. But again, I am curious if they've both been out so long, are they really slow to get going?
Starting point is 00:17:14 Are we not going to put the pedal to the medal to the medal? The thing about Gina Carrano, it's hard to make assumptions on how she will fight because it's been almost two decades since she has fought. When she previously fought, you know, she mostly was pretty aggressive, throwing the hands, power punching. Rondo, we know, got famous. for finishing fights in the length of vines, you know, 10 seconds. So obviously the book has weighted the unders to be the favorite there,
Starting point is 00:17:42 but I just do kind of wonder. I'm getting, you know, plus 145 and the over one and a half. If they simply, if Rhonda simply just doesn't try our hardest, do we get there? I don't know. I'm curious. It's got me thinking, and this is how Vegas wins. It is.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Can you imagine, like, you know, this is listen to the first ever I may event on Netflix. Maybe there's a gentlewoman's agreement to just kind of be like, okay, let's feel that a little of the first round. You know, not to say, oh, I'm going to let you beat me or I'm not going to, you know, I'm going to fight so, so poorly that I'm just like that we both look terrible. But like, hey, listen, Ronda's been in the pro wrestling world. She knows how to work a match. She knows how to work a crowd. She knows how to tell a story, as it were. That is the fear.
Starting point is 00:18:24 That is the fear, I think, for anyone that's, like, locking in, like, oh, under one and a half, like, boom, that's easy money. Or, you know, Ronda round one, submission. Rounder Round 1 knockout. There's a little bit of a concern. They just haven't fought in so long. And again, even if you put aside all this talk of it, yeah, this possibly being predetermined handshake agreement thing, it's like, it might just take time to get going.
Starting point is 00:18:44 It just haven't fought in so long. I don't know if someone with, like Rhonda, who, look, I know her whole life has been combat sports. I still don't know if she can just instantly lock in and take someone out. Like that's what I think will happen. That's kind of what I want to see. But again, I'm also not, you know, part of the show. I don't know what Netflix is expecting.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Like, I think on one hand, they'd be super thrilled with like, oh, our, you know, our first ever event ended with this historic 15-second submission, classic rousy, great clip to throw around. But I also think that they don't want new viewers to be like, oh, what the hell was that? You know, I mean, I know that I'm not paying anything, but it's like, oh, I put in all this time to watch the show. And that's, it's over in 20 seconds. So it's weird. It gets possible. I think I do ultimately lean towards, when the bullet starts flying, Rondo, will just fight on instinct, that that instinct, her style has always not just been, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:36 judo throws and trips, but into submissions. That is, was always sort of one of the dynamic pieces of her game. I mean, everybody knew that she got finishes, right? But the way she got finishes, you know, she, arm barred Kazzingano instantaneously because it wasn't like, oh, I'm going to take down and then set it up. It's, she's just kind of always fetching for those. and I, you know, at the end of the day, it's probably going to be one of those ones
Starting point is 00:20:03 where we look back and like, she just taking submission round one rousy parlay, whatever that pays out. Submission round one for either fighter is plus 120. And so it's just like, yeah, she's probably going to arm bar her in the first three minutes. And as long as it's not a 10-second thing, I don't think anybody would be upset, right?
Starting point is 00:20:22 They come, they feel each other out. Krona tries to land something. Rhonda, you know, hits a big high amplitude throw, works away to an arm, Bob's your uncle. And so we're going to lock in Rhonda Rousey for a climb leg. Love it. I've made no bet. So we are building my betting card this whole show. So that's, I'm writing that down for the car.
Starting point is 00:20:42 We will punch that in post show. Now, Jed, what about the Carrano side? Do we have any intrigue? Not for us. Let's talk about it for the viewers. You know, the viewers just want to have fun. Views were like, ah, I got, you know, I have a budget of $10 for fight nights. I do it.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Just sprinkle a few dollars here. The thing, I don't even think you're getting good value on any of the Corona actually. Because like, well, Corona right now in my book, I'm looking at it. It's plus 400. But if you, I think if you're going to bet Corona, you should bet Corona by finish. And you should really bet Corona by knockout unless you're just trying to have a ball and go sub or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:15 So you go Corona by by finish or by K.O. And it's like plus 500. You're not getting much extra there. That's not bad. That's not. I mean, you should still do it over betting her straight. but like that's not you know that that that is not the number that I'm like oh now I'm interested it's like okay yeah I just would bet this over her straight up now what about Carano by points
Starting point is 00:21:38 what about Carano by decisions yet uh these those don't seem likely to me can I interest you in plus 2,500 odds those are the odds that are trying to interest you but they do not interest me I will be the only way I think it goes to a decision is if this is not a fixed fight, but everybody, you know, this is a Jake Paul, Mike Tyson. I'm not going to hurt this lady. And so then we cruise. But in that scenario, Gina is not winning on the points.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I was thinking of like a scenario where like they get gas, but if they get gas, it's not going to go 25 minutes. It's going to some, someone at some point is just going to end up on top of the other fighter. If this is a three-round fight, you could open my eyes to the particular. potential of, okay, maybe something gets wonk and we go to the cards. Five rounds is that extra 10 minutes. I just don't think they will stay and not do anything for that long. A finish is coming of that, I feel, some level of confidence in, which, AK, I would also say, you know, the numbers are too high, but if you are at home looking at a climb, you know, the under two and a half is minus 450. I think that that's probably in play.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Pretty good. Pretty good. Can I get, can I, can I, can I do my best Long Island Luke impression for a second? Absolutely. Jed, do you know what the record is for fighters coming back from a near 17 year layoff? Has it happened? There is no data on this. That's why I'm right.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Yeah, I don't, I've never. I'm just reinforcing this client bet people. People that do not. I know anything can happen in M.A. I know Gina Krona is a strong lady. Do not bet Gina Kano. Any K.O. points. Uh, money line, anything.
Starting point is 00:23:25 She had fought nearly 17 years. There's almost no way. There's almost no way, Chad. Let me tell you. Also, I just wouldn't be betting Rousey if this weren't the first step. If I was step 15, I'm not betting on somebody who hasn't fought in 10 years. I don't really care. I just wouldn't be doing it.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Step one, I'm fine with it. Step, you know, if I'm up the mountain, nope, not going to do that. Let us move on to the co-main event of the evening. Was not originally announced when they first announced the Rouse. Corona thing, but came in later and has moved to the co-main of its status. Arguably the most interesting fight of the whole weekend. Probably not the best, but arguably the most interesting. Nate Diaz taking on Mike Perry in a welterweight contest.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Perry, your betting favorite minus 220 to come back on Diaz plus 165. A.K. Should Mike Perry be the betting favorite over Nate Diaz? I mean, I'm going to say something bold. here. Nate Diaz is a better MMA fighter than Mike Perry. It was bold.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I feel. You've gone on a limb. I feel. He's a better. He's a bit older. Jed, can you name who Mike Perry beat in his last
Starting point is 00:24:40 MMA fight? Just the last, his last MMA win. Can you name his last MMA win? Oh, I have no idea who his last MMA win was. UFC Vegas card.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I believe his last of a fight was the Danny Rodriguez fight. I think you're right. His last win, UFC Vegas Car, June 2020. Mickey Gall.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I believe this was the infamous his fiance slash wife at the time was cornering him. Do you remember that? And everyone was like, sure do. There was the sparring footage in the back and feel like,
Starting point is 00:25:08 what the hell's going on? Anyway, he won that fight. So she's undefeated as a coach, I believe, as a corner woman, I believe. Dude, he fought, I've pulled up Mike Perry's resume and I always was like, Mike Perry's got something.
Starting point is 00:25:20 He had a heck of a run in the UFC. I mean, he lost a, lot of these, but like, Jake Ellenberger, Alan Joe Bonn, Alex Reyes, whatever, Santiago Ponzanibio,
Starting point is 00:25:34 Max Griffin, Paul Feller, Cowboy Soroni, Cowboy Olivera, Vicente Lucque, Jeff Neal, Mickey Gall, Tim Means,
Starting point is 00:25:42 Danny Rodriguez. Like, that is, that's a lot of good dudes. He did fight a lot of good dudes. Nate Diaz is better than him. No. Right?
Starting point is 00:25:52 100%. Natez is a superior and May Fighters. Big question, though. Nate Diaz is 41. I believe he turned 41 last month. Mike Perry, several years younger. Obviously, Mike Perry has
Starting point is 00:26:08 been much more active lately, though primarily in bare-knuckle. He's done a little boxing too. Nate's done a little bit of boxing, but, you know, Nate has not been superactive basically since the Conner fight, really. I originally thought, man, I kind of want to bet Nate Diaz.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And as I thought about this, I'm like, man, I don't know, it is a five-rounder. And that historically feels like that favors Nate Diaz. I don't, the question is, like, how is Nate beating Mike Perry, right? Like, is he going to take, he's got to take him down. He's probably not going to win them just punching each other a bunch, because that feels like the younger, stronger dude is, who has been doing a lot of this is more well suited to it.
Starting point is 00:26:57 But am I wrong? Is Nate going to win a stand-up fight here if he wins? He's going to have a reach advantage. I think he just is the better striker, but I agree in a five-round fight. The power can kind of mitigate that. I think Perry's going to get hit a lot. He's going to hit.
Starting point is 00:27:13 He's probably going to bleed because his Nate and he always bleeds. He probably should consider a shot at some point because I do think he has a big advantage in the ground game. And that's why. That's why I like the Nate bet so much. Like, I haven't seen the props. I don't know what Nate Byleg submission is. I imagine that's probably better.
Starting point is 00:27:29 If you're picking Nate, just do that. But Nate could win on points too. Nate could win points too. So I don't hate that. I think Nate DS could win a decision. It could be a little controversial. Could be taking a trip to Splitty City? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Might be a little uncomfortable to watch if you put some money on Nate Diaz. But I like him as the underdog. The line doesn't surprise me. I'm not saying it's a bad line. If anything, I think they've lined it right because they've tempted Goose like me to probably put money down in Nate Diaz. So yeah, I like it where it is,
Starting point is 00:27:57 but I really, really, if you're, for all you Diaz army guys out there who are like waffling, just do it, man. You'll feel good about it. You'll feel good about it no matter what happens. I kind of think I'm going to do it. Yeah, got to. I do think he's better in the clinch.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And the five rounds gives me something. Nate can compete on the feet. And if he does get takedowns, I think this is very, very over. There's also just a chance that Mike Perry he starts hitting Nate and thinks that this is the way to victory and then gas himself because Nate is very durable. And so I think I'm going to take a shot at Nate Diaz.
Starting point is 00:28:33 This is, this was one that I certainly was considering. So we talked through it. Plus, let's live a little. Let's have some fun. You know, like, let's, let's have a party. Mike Perry has never gone five rounds in MMA. He has gone the distance in Bearknuckle, but Bear Knuckle rounds are two minutes, right? That is not remotely close.
Starting point is 00:28:51 not to mention again not having to mix the martial arts, right? Boy, yeah, it's funny, and you had to remind me that this is a five-rounder as is the Ngano Lens fight is also a five-rounder.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Totally forgot about that. I feel way more... I actually, like, I'm just, you know, guys know, I'm spectatively betting when I'm on this show. I may have to put down real money on an ATS bet.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I'm feeling really good about this right now. That's what the show does to you, though, isn't it, Jed? I mean, it really does. And that's, yeah, the, like, the 10 minutes versus 25 is just...
Starting point is 00:29:20 Huge. It's just not remotely. same. Mike's not quite in a shape. Yeah, I think I'm just going to take a spec bet on Nate Diaz and let's have some fun. Do you do you like go the distance at plus 104 or if you're going
Starting point is 00:29:33 the distance anyway, do you have to just pick Nate? Is there's no point if you think it's going to No, because I think Nate can tap him. So I wouldn't be saying that those are analogous. I did look at the over one and a half. The numbers moved a little higher
Starting point is 00:29:49 than a climb bet, a Now it's my $6.50 at my book. But maybe piece that together with a couple of other pieces of action, and you can get that into a reasonable climb if you're doing something, or you just want a big chalky soup, something like that. If it's a finish, it's obviously I would say Nate is going to get the finish. And so if you want to do a finish-only bet, which are bets that I have taken a liking to the past couple of years,
Starting point is 00:30:18 where if it goes to a decision, Beck gets canceled. Nate Diaz is plus 130 as a finish only winner. So I don't think Mike Perry is going to stop Nate Diaz. So I don't hate something like that either. But I'm just going to take the dog shorter Nate. Let us move to the feature about the third leg
Starting point is 00:30:40 of the tripod that is at the top of MVP-MMA-1. Francis Inganu takes on Felipe. Linz in a heavyweight contest with some of the biggest odds you'll ever see in a fist fight. Inganu, a minus 1,600 betting favorite over Linz who is a plus 800
Starting point is 00:31:01 underdog right now. More money keeps coming in on Ingana. This was, he was minus 1400 yesterday. I think, okay, we know what this fight is. The odds, these odds tell us one thing, A.K.,
Starting point is 00:31:17 don't bet on Francis. These are odds that are designed to make sure you don't bet on Francis and you bet on Felipe Lins because you're just giving us free money. That is what these odds are designed to do. Francis, though, again, you know, he has not fought in a long time. October of 2024 since the last time he fought at all. No boxing in there, no nothing. Funnily enough, though, AK, did you know that,
Starting point is 00:31:46 do you know the last time Philippe Lens fought? That's what I was going to ask. Has Francis fought more recently than him? Sure has. Which is insane. That's not good. March of 2024 for Filippins. It is, I mean, look,
Starting point is 00:32:02 Filippe was a moderately successful heavyweight. Tournament winner. He's got a million dollar novelty check hanging in his place, his mention, all right? Correct. Moderately successful heavyweight, who bumps down to light heavyweight and actually was quite successful in the UFC
Starting point is 00:32:22 when he was able to get into the cage at that weight class and has not fought in two years against, you know, I'm going to assume that this is no longer peak Francis Ngano he is pushing 40 himself, but a guy who was pretty good at defending a takedown and hits real super, super hard and has a pretty good chin. I think we know what this is. Francis and Ghanu can't climb with the Makeda.
Starting point is 00:32:48 He's simply too big, but do you have anything else to add about this fight? I don't. I'm trying to figure out how you get any value on some sort of Francis bet. I'm just looking at it right now. I kind of just ignored it because I don't think there's anything. Fight goes the distance minus 1,400. This is I'm looking at Fanduil right now. Oh, golly me.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Francis by K.O. is like minus 500? I mean, honestly, that's, no, that's, I don't know. I think that that's fine. I don't have that up at my book. Is that true? Because I would 100% be climbing with that. Oh, you would climb with that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:24 That actually is, yes. Well, we may have to have an offer. That's not currently available at my book. Okay. I got this on, this is on Fandual. I have, I have Francis inside,
Starting point is 00:33:33 or to win by finish, which is a minus 650. Okay. That is sort of the other thing about the K.O. It is likely, but Francis does sneakily get some submissions in there. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:33:44 time. He would love to show up his jiu-out live on Netflix. I'll tell you, what an introduction to a new audience that would be? Like, oh, who is this guy? He's got part of the Gracie family? Who is this guy? Philippe Lins plus 830 money line. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:33:56 K.O. plus 1,300.3,000. This is just, I, again, unless you guys have some crazy parlay going, or you've got, like, Drake money, and you're putting down, like, $10 million on, like, Francis to, you know, money liner by K.O., there's really just no value here. I wanted. to parlay him up with a couple of other people to do a multi-leg climb leg. Like we did last week,
Starting point is 00:34:22 did parlay two people up for one climb leg. They both cashed. And then Hamzat killed us. So that's still on offer. I've got that sitting in my pending. So, you know, as we go through, we'll see if the other legs, if you look at this all together and are like,
Starting point is 00:34:40 you know what? Yeah. Let's do a second climb leg with four. Or dudes in it or whatever. Oh, man. Not saying that would be smart. Maybe that's what happens. Well, yeah, we got to talk this through.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Okay, so we're going to put a pin in that one. Another fight that, you know, maybe he gets a pin. Saladin Parnas taking on Kenneth Cross in a lightweight contest. Parnas, mega, mega betting favorite, minus 1,300 for Parnas. at this stage of the proceeding. So, you know, a little bit big, 27-year-old. I think he's 27, let me, 28, sorry, he's 28 years old. The French phenom, the KSW multi-weight champion,
Starting point is 00:35:28 getting an opportunity to shine here on American soil as he takes on Kenneth Cross, who is a dude. Has a great name. Great name. Did a lot of, you know, fought in Bellator, Once, maybe more than once. I remember once that he lost in Bellator and has done a lot of work at the XFC and tough enough. And we also know what he's being brought in here to do.
Starting point is 00:35:55 It is to lose to Sadine Parnas, a.K., the one thing I will note about this fight, all four of Cross's career losses. That is a twister right there. Nice. Did not intend that, but that is a tongue twister. All four across his career losses have come by. by way of submission.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Three rear naked chokes and one triangle choke for old Kenneth Cross. Solidine Parnas, man who knows his way around to submission. I don't have this available in my book right now, but, you know, like half of Parnas' stoppage wins
Starting point is 00:36:33 are by sub. I am, if I'm betting this one and we're not going to lump him in with a Francis Parnas, one other person, three leg, let's get her down to a climb. I'd be looking at the submission prop victory odds here. Do you do, sorry, you say you don't have a submission prop number? I don't have it on my book.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I have one on his fan duel here. You're going to like this number. Okay. Plus one 35. For Parnas by submission? Per Nass by submission plus money. I mean, gonna have to do that. That's not bad.
Starting point is 00:37:02 That is not bad. How do you not do that? I, yeah, you really, yeah, I didn't even, I didn't even look at that. Like I was just looking at. So I, I will say I have Parnas as the second leg of a three leg parlight. Radna Rowsy number one. This is a heavy, heavy favorite favorite. partly. Ronda Icy number one,
Starting point is 00:37:15 Parnasse number two. And I actually got Parnas, I believe I did this on Tuesday before we recorded the show, Jed. I actually got Parnas at minus 900. I'm seeing now, that was yesterday. Now I'm seeing on, I think even on Fanduel. I think I'm seeing him at minus 1400. Oh, yeah. He's
Starting point is 00:37:31 blown up quite a lot. He is reasonable. He might be at Francis numbers by the time Saturday rolls around. It's a lot. It is certainly a lot. Get that subbed. Get that subbed in.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Wow. Because that might have a lot of scumming in on it by Friday, too. That might be minus by Friday. I will say, to be fair, he has not scored a submission win in some time. A lot of ground and pound victories. But I just think there's something viable going in there. I agree. We move on.
Starting point is 00:38:05 What do we move on to, AK? To the heart of the card, that's what we move on to. Oh, gosh. Junior Dos Santos. takes on rebellious to Spain, a heavyweight contest, JDS. He's back. Unclear why. In a phrase, it's becoming offset on this pod.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Do you know the last time JDS fought AK? I do not, off the top of my head, no. 2022 was his last MMA fight. That's not too bad. But his last fight was in 2024. He did fight in Gamebred FC's bare-knuckle MMA a couple of times, but he is also basically two years out of competition as well. He has been talking this week about maybe potentially getting to rematch for Insengano.
Starting point is 00:38:56 He is 42 years old, and he is taking on rebellus to Spain, the king of karate combat. And to Spain, a shockingly big favorite to me, AK, minus 650. in my book at this time. Come back on DeSantos plus 375. Tell me what you feel about this heavyweight contest. I shouldn't, but I love DeSanto as an underdog. I love it. I just,
Starting point is 00:39:24 I know our last, like, UFC memories of JDS are probably not great. You have to go back really far, I think, to have, like, a positive outlook on a JDS fight. But Robillis to Spain is not, Good. He's super fun to watch. Obviously, the Crouty Combat stuff, the how fast can he, you know, break out your stopwatch? How fast can this guy is he going to win by knockout? So cool. Great gimmick. I hope he's making a ton of money. Great content for, like, karate combat. Like, you can not even watch a show. You've probably seen a lot of rebels of Spain over the last couple of years just because they'd be like, oh, he did it again. Six and a half second knockout. And he could very well do that to Junior. Okay, obviously, we know that Junior is essentially retired from, you know, actual MMA. probably because getting hit in the head so much as he did during his career. Not great.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And now you have someone who's probably on par in terms of power and accuracy with anyone he's fought in his career. But Rebels to Spain can't grapple, Chad? Yes. I mean, we don't think Junior's gonna just tackle this dude? That is, and I felt so bad about this. This is one of the ones where I'm like,
Starting point is 00:40:34 I'm gonna bet Judah DeSantos. And all he has to do is tackle him. V's just tackles him fights over. That's it. And he's got jujitsu. He does have jujitsu. I love him. I love him at plus.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And I'm not, maybe not an elite wrestler. I do think that's the concern. I think there's a little bit of a thought like, wait, like how does junior? How elite of a wrestler, Waldo Grotesa Costa and Austin Lane?
Starting point is 00:40:57 Yeah, okay, fair. Austin Lane played football. He could tackle. You know, he knows how to tackle someone. Yeah, but neither of these are wrestling. Like, he just,
Starting point is 00:41:04 you just tip him over. Waldo's quite a bit younger than Junior. So there's like a, I would never call Waldo like explosive, but he's certainly more explosive than Junior Dos Santos. Like I think it would be super depressing to see Junior like telegraph a shot from four feet away and just get destroyed.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I think that's the fear. My fear is the junior's going to come out and try and throw hands with him and then just get obliterated. Of course. If he tries to box for a second, he will die. It's so dumb. And he might because he, oh, man, he might. Well, I just tackle him and tap him.
Starting point is 00:41:35 And at plus 350, sure. I'm going to take a sped on him. What about submission? plus 2,000. Heavy weights, I mean, that's a big number. Just tackles them, wears them down, gets the back. It's a big number. Weird, naked, choke.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Heavy weights just basically never get submissions, but man, that's a big number. He has only scored one submission in his entire career. This was his second MMA fight. At that point, we're basically praying for rebellists to tap to strike. Which I think counts the KO. I actually think that counts the chaos. So I don't even think you would get the, I don't think you would get the money there.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Okay. Forget it. Listeners, forget I said anything. A funny thought. If it goes to the ground, it'll probably either he wins a decision or, or beats him with ground and pound or something. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Do not do not do the submission thing. That's just wasting a few dollars. I am on it, though. I am feeling JDS as an opportunity. So there we go. We move to, sure, this is a fight. We're onto the prelims. We're going to take these prelims.
Starting point is 00:42:39 much quicker than the main card here because there were a couple of good fights on the prelims. Those fights fell through and now there are fights on the prelims. Nama Fizil taking on Jake Babian. I did go back and watch a little bit of tape on these two. Babian just did not impress me whatsoever. He has a gaudy record.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I just not impressed by him. Fizil actually, like he didn't seem like a world beater but hard-nosed probably like actually the caliber to be in a real like a real organization. He is listed at 6-1. I just don't think that's true. I think he's much shorter than that. So I think he's going to be giving up some size to Babian. But I, you know, Fazil is minus 375, Babians plus 260.
Starting point is 00:43:28 For a guy who I think is okay, but not great, I'm not going to lay these odds. I know, yeah, Namo is a pretty big favorite. I don't know, guys, I do not know a lot of these gentlemen. I assumed Fazil is some sort of like MVP pushed fighter, some MVP promoted fighter. I could be wrong. I feel like he's obviously clearly meant to be the A side here. He's kind of making waves and he's like talking crap about Armand Sarukia and stuff like that. So there's something there.
Starting point is 00:43:55 There's something there from a promotional standpoint. If you guys are smarter than me, yeah, I don't know. Feel free to lay something down on this, but I would just, this is a stay away. You know, he has a bit of a following. You know, he's got like several hundred thousand followers on Instagram. He has sort of been around the block, right? Like he's competed at one, UAE, karate combat. Like, he's, it definitely seems like he is,
Starting point is 00:44:25 but I don't know what sort of association he may or not have with MVP other than, he's clearly being set up for success here against Jake Baby. who does look good getting off the bus, just doesn't seem like much of a fighter to me. A catchweight bout, spantam fly, I don't know, a 130-pound bout, Adriana Maraisch, supposed to take a Mahamahev. Mahev could not get a visa,
Starting point is 00:44:48 and so that fight fell through, and instead, arguably a much more difficult fight for Adriana Marias, maybe not a more difficult fight, but at least people know who Mahav Mahav Mahav is. Fumin Kuta is you know the underground sleeper of the flyweight division for many years
Starting point is 00:45:07 your best friend Mike Keck has repeatedly talked about how this guy's going to do some stuff I do not have odds on this one AK but I will say I like Fumina Kuta and I think Marias has looked quite bad lately
Starting point is 00:45:23 Fumi's got real good grappling I think he can get takedowns and probably win this fight I have I only see this from fight odds.io. They list everything. Great site for you betting maniacs out there. I only see bet online has it. Betonline to EG.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Minus 110, pick um, minus one 10 for both gentlemen. It is a pickum. I think that's really interesting. Again, I agree. I'm probably just not going to touch this. I'm a huge adrenalineer ice guy.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Fumi, I think I'm a fan, but I definitely not as much as Mike. I probably don't know as much about Fumi as I do. Of course, about Adrianos had quite a bit of exposure when one was still doing. already shifted. Oh, really? Fumina Kuda is a minus 200. Favored?
Starting point is 00:46:04 Uh-huh. Damn. Okay, well, I have no betting advice for this. It's immediately shifted on that online. I have no betting advice for this. I love this matchup. It would have been cooler to see the Mikhail fight for sure, but Fumi has, you know, kind of been deserving of a bigger platform for a while.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yeah, so cool that he gets to be on Netflix, but yeah, I'm not touching this. Yeah, I think he just short notice. I just pass on it. but very good fight, one of the gyms of the prelims. We continue on to the Walterweight Division, Jason Jackson, former Bellator Welterweight champion, takes on Jeff Creighton. This is also a swap matchup. Originally, Jason Jackson was supposed to take on Lorenz Larkin.
Starting point is 00:46:44 That fight was hot fire. This fight is not. I will not lie to you. I do not know almost anything about Creighton. I know that he was on tough, So I'm sure you are much more versed in the Jeff Creighton experience than I am. I've interviewed him. But I don't have a lot of, I don't have a lot to say about Jeff Creighton.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I do think Jason Jackson is a good fighter. And let me see if we've got odds dropped on this. Jason Jackson, a considerable betting favorite minus 400, it looks like here. Yeah, I see that. I see minus 300 on bet online and cloud bet. even minus 400 that seems low to me that seems so like he
Starting point is 00:47:31 why is he not in the like in ganu parnass range and again I guess Creighton's like Creighton's not a bad fighter like he's not like a total can he's got some wrestling which is always good a lot of wrestling goes a long way but Jason Jackson is also a good wrestler
Starting point is 00:47:44 good defensive wrestler very good defensive wrestler like he should be I really think Jason Jackson should be like minus a thousand this guy recently this guy recently beat Amosov that was not long ago that he K-Oed Amosov
Starting point is 00:47:58 this is a weird one for me I would tell people if you... Sounds like I should be climbing with him but my book doesn't have odds up there. I don't know. I would just still, yeah, if you're out there, straight bet on Jackson,
Starting point is 00:48:08 if you get up minus 300, even minus 400 right now, I think that's actually surprisingly good value considering he should be higher. He should be minus 1,000. All respect to Jeff Creighton, a guy who I like. But yeah, short notice
Starting point is 00:48:21 and just the accolades are in level of competition is not remotely close. We move on to the featherweight division. David Magoyan takes on Albert Morales. Super random fight. A couple of dudes from up next fighting are now just fighting in the prelims of this.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I have a little bit of experience of McGowan who lost on Contender Series. I actually did like him, though. My notes, I went back and looked at my notes. One, he is still just 21 years old. He is super young. he's an ATT guy and my notes on it were you know super young but there's something to build on here I Compton to Ronnie Yaya in that he can be like a fun tricky little grappler with ugly striking he's 21 I don't know if he's improved like a great deal since then
Starting point is 00:49:13 but I guess we're about to find out he is a massive betting favorite here minus 550 over Albert Morales, who, you know, that's probably too big a betting favorite from McGowan anyway, just given how young he is, how unproven. But he can grapple, and Morales loses a lot by submission, so probably A plus B makes C here. The only thing I like here is, and the only thing I can really see,
Starting point is 00:49:41 I don't see a lot of props for this fight, frankly, because if I could, I would try to find, like, that I'm going by a knockout or something like that, like, you know, ground and pound knockout. I think I think I'm going can get a finish I know the guy the guy is Mariles quite a bit more experienced I understand that but I'm seeing on Ben Online
Starting point is 00:49:57 plus 174 under one and a half minus 125 under two and a half I think I'm going will finish him but I don't have a good gauge in whether he just like blow him out in the first or wear him down and to get a finish in the the other guy do you forget Albert Morales This is long tenured UFC run.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I 100% did. He amassed a very respectable one, five, and one record. I'm sorry, one four and one. He fought five times in the UFC. I fought six times. He had a draw. He won a split decision over Andre Sukumta. He got knocked out by Tommy Almeida.
Starting point is 00:50:42 He lost to his defense. Brett Johns, Benito Lopez, Mani Bermudez. And then he fought on the Liddell Ortiz 3 fight card, which was an abomination. Yeah, you know, he had a UFC run. He has fought in Bellator. He is a professional fighter. And I do think this is good prospect matchmaking as this is a guy who knows how to fistfight. And you've got a super young prospect with some talent.
Starting point is 00:51:13 let him cut his teeth and see how he does, but I would not be laying these prices on Magoy. No, no. Well done with the matchmaking, I guess. Aline Pereira, the sister of Poetan, Alex Pereira, Tate. The actual sister. The actual sister.
Starting point is 00:51:29 The actual sister. We're not doing a bit here with Alice Pereira. This is actually a great chance. This is a fight that's happening. It sure is a fight that's happening. Ostensibly, it's a set-up fight for Alice Pereira, who is a minus 425 betting favorite against Wong plus 300. I have never been impressed by Al's prayer.
Starting point is 00:51:52 A part of me even wants to take a dog shot on Mason Wong, who isn't good, but has been in a bunch of striking organizations, and it's not like we're going to do a lot of jiu-jitsu here. But mostly, I think, you just shouldn't bet this fight because you've got a problem if you're betting this fight. Yeah, and I can't find any props right now. I don't see any like put out of by not. Yeah, those are nothing up yet.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I'm a little more familiar with Jade Misanwaan, of course, from my fellow Canadian. Not, again, not a great fighter, not a great fighter, certainly tough as hell. You know, I guess that's damning a fighter with the most faint praise that you can. Definitely a tough person, like you said, she's been in other combat sports. Not afraid to get punched in the face. That's certainly true. Yeah, I wouldn't bet this one. Aileen Pineda kind of looking to join, like, Rebellis, right?
Starting point is 00:52:40 because she's also got these viral karate combat knockouts. So maybe she picks another one Saturday. But yeah, I don't want to touch this. Yeah, no one should want to touch this. And that brings us to the opening about of the evening, Chris Avila taking on Brandon Jenkins. And I, you know, Avila plus 260 dog Jenkins minus 375. And A.K. mostly, I just want to highlight the power of friendship.
Starting point is 00:53:04 But a shout out to Chris Avila, who the entirety of his actual career is just, I'm friends with Nate Diaz. And that's, that's fine. Like honestly, I wish my friends are bombs. And then none of them are famous or successful enough for me to just be like, let me have a career by being in your orbit for long enough. And Chris Avila has done that. And, you know, shout out to Nate Diaz, always getting his boy paid.
Starting point is 00:53:37 So, sure, this fight's happening. And he's not even favored Jed. Like they didn't like they didn't line up a can or something for him. Like he's he's a heavy underdog. He's a huge underdog. Yeah, he's at least at least two to one. I should say huge. But I'm just saying when you consider what you just like said that we know he's on here because he's Niteez's guy.
Starting point is 00:53:59 And like wouldn't they try and find him a favorable matchup? They certainly did for Eileen Ferreira and David Mowoyen and Jason, you know, they found a good replace for Jason Jackson, name of Fezile. like why couldn't they find someone that Chris Avila could just like style on or does that person not exist? I don't know. Brandon Jenkins has a lot of experience. It's got a lot of experience.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yeah. And it's like Chris Avila, when was the last time he fought in MMA? It's been forever. That's a really good question. To 2020, 2021, I will give you, AK, I want to be super clear here. I don't have this. I will give you a million dollars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I don't own. $1 million. I will have to rob a bank. I'll have to put together a crew to rob a bank to pay you this. I will give you a million dollars if you can tell me who the most recent person Chris Avila fought in MMA is. No, no. I'm looking at it anyway. I'm looking at it right now. Oh, did you? Yes. And a gentleman fought our president, John Kennedy. With a with a sterile, he beat this guy. Hey, first round knock out of a guy with a sterling 9 and 33 record heading into their fight. So well done, Chris Avila. Good job. John Kennedy Slap Daddy.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Why? That just doesn't why couldn't they bring John Kennedy in for this fight? Rematch. I'm clear why Slap Daddy was not.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Oh, funnly enough, apparently Slapped Daddy also lost to Tommy Gant who is fighting at the U.C. This weekend.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Little Parley? Are you doing the presidential A little Chrisabilla Tommy Gant parley? The, uh, the, uh, the, uh,
Starting point is 00:55:32 he slept. Oh, gosh. What's the guy's name? Um, oh, it's so bad. What's my American history? Who was the assassin?
Starting point is 00:55:38 Assassin? John Wilkes Booth? Oh, no, the John... Are you going to do the Lee Harvey Oswald Parlay? The Lee Harvey Oswald Parlay? Oh, man. Man, the Lee Harvey Oswald Parlay is pretty fun. This is...
Starting point is 00:55:53 We've gone down a dark path. The problem is I'd have to have Chris Avila and Lee Harvey Oswald. And you don't parley underdogs. You don't parley underdogs. You don't want to parley-a-Ris-Vil. But guys, if you're out there and you do parley underdogs, we're just saying... The Lee Harvey-Oswole parley is so good. I'm going to have to go back and look
Starting point is 00:56:09 and see if any other fighters have beaten a former president or, you know, John Kennedy. To be fair, he does not spell it with the H. 11 and 43 this man's pro-M-A career is. God bless him. Just keeps getting back in there. Look at you go, buddy.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Keeps getting in there, man. I'm happy for you. They should have called them up for this event. It's kind of shocking that they did. UFC White House counter-programming, right? Oh, you've got the White House. We've got John Kennedy. We've got John Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Don Kennedy. Oh, man. What a place we have gone here. Where are we right now, Jedwar. Why did we do that? Jedwar are we right now. Well, we're moving on from MVP in May
Starting point is 00:56:51 at the almost one hour mark to go to a UFC card that I think we're going to breeze through pretty quickly. UFC Vegas 117. Let me tell you, the rest of this card, deep fried buns. I mean, this is a bad.
Starting point is 00:57:07 card. This main event, I really like this main event a lot. This main event rips. It is Arnold Allen taking on Melchicosta in a five-round featherweight contest. Your betting favorite, as things stand right now, is Arnold Allen, who
Starting point is 00:57:25 comes in at a minus 185. The comeback on Melchicosta. Well, that's a round a plus 150, Allen. A bit of a tough stretch right now. Two and three over his last five. coming off your unanimous decision lost to Jeanne Silva in January. So at least he's getting back in there.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Two years in a row where Arnold Allen will have fought multiple times in a year. That's a nice change of pace for him. Coast is writing a six-fight winning streak. The spinning back kick TKO-KO win over Dana EGay in February. A.K. This is a ripper of a fight. How are you feeling about it? I love it. You and I, again, have kind of talked about this before the show.
Starting point is 00:58:05 we can let people know now, I think, that there's a climb consideration here, Jed. A climb consideration which I told, the science backs you up. I totally support it. Like, if this were, if it were only one,
Starting point is 00:58:19 like, if it were only this card this week, I would say lock that in. You are, like, guaranteed. Let's tell people what it is, what is your climb coming out of this fight? You know, it's going to be looking at the over here.
Starting point is 00:58:31 But as I had won, as the price got higher and I sort of spend more time, like, I know, because I really like Arnold. And I've been a fan of his for a long time. I think he is durable, much more well-rounded. This is sort of the style of fight that I think historically he can succeed in where he can mix the martial arts, whereas Moki Coast is mostly going to just try and kick his head off.
Starting point is 00:58:54 But Costa's on such a run right now. Arnold feels like he is plateaued at this point. And so, again, the level of competition he has faced has been outrageous, right? Like, he has just fought bangers all day long for the last, like, seven fights or whatever. But he's just not getting a lot of wins over this time. I mean, his wins are Calvin Cater, who hasn't won in a lifetime, and Gigacizekadez. How good are we feeling about a Gigacizade win in 2024, you know? Great, his loss is Movsar, Max, John Silva.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Very competitive in these fights, right? Like, very competitive against Mobsar against John Silva. Even against Max, who's very competitive. But competitive losses still aren't wins, and I am a little concerned that he is not winning enough right now. Especially 25 minutes, Malky's more dynamic fighter, kind of think of Melke might be in for the upset this weekend. Yeah, and honestly, even,
Starting point is 01:00:01 I was kind of hinting out of before that you were considering an over for the climb, which is fair because Arnold Allen always, always, always, always, always. Always over. The man is exclusively an over merchant. But I think one, Melkees on a finishing streak.
Starting point is 01:00:17 So if you're picking Melchie, there's a chance that he just ends inside the distance, right, totally spoils any over a bit. It will be tough against Arnold Allen, don't get you wrong. But vice versa, I think because Costa has that style, it would open the door for an Arnold Allen finish. Again, I know it's rare, but I do think Arnold Allen has finished ability, especially with, you know, sometimes you just need the right opponent, right? And yeah, maybe John Silva should have been that opponent. Like, I'm a little surprised.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I'm sure there are people who took an underbet there and probably didn't pay off. I mean, you could, you could chance the over still, you know, as a climb thing, but I would, I would stay away. In general, Jed, you know what I'm saying. I would really like us to only do one climb bet this week. But I think Arnold Allen, I think Arnold Allen money line is pretty good. Maybe better as a parley piece. I wonder how many parlies people are getting out of this UCC Vegas card. That's really my question. I mean, not as many as we're going to get.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I guess you would parley with the MVP. Just because there's, I mean, there's so many big favorites. People are just going to start throwing all the favorites together into a soup. Yeah. And, yeah, I think I'm not going to bet Melki because I like Arnold. And I've been betting a lot more with my heart than my head lately because the head hasn't worked. and the heart is up like 10 units over the past three weeks or whatever. So vibes are ruling the day right now.
Starting point is 01:01:37 But I do kind of feel like this seems like it might be a good spot from Elki Costa. I guess we will find out. So climbing just Rousey. Just Rousey is the only climb we've got right now. We still could pair up, you know, Saladin, Parnasse, Ronda Rousey, and some others and see where we get with it. it because you know those two right now is around a minus 700 we get one more leg there we can get them to my we can get them to the thing uh won't be on this fight though is uh we head to the feather
Starting point is 01:02:12 way division do ho troy takes on daniel santos both men on winning streaks choy two in a row knocked out nate landware uh december of 2024 so been over a year since we've seen him santos tk oed uh jusong u at 320 in october in october I have two important notes about this. Oh, I know what one of them is. Very quickly, actually. I don't want to say, okay. You do.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I'm sure you know what one of the is. I absolutely do. Okay, because I want to read you, I want to read over. So these are the notes I took at like, I think, three or four in the morning. I don't know. I had to woke up and I was like, I need some notes. I need some U.S. Vegas 117 notes.
Starting point is 01:02:47 So I don't know. I woke up thinking about UFC Vegas 117. I did. I did. Had to get my thoughts out. Okay. So this is just what I wrote down. Is Cody Brundage do?
Starting point is 01:02:55 Okay. Don't respond yet. Don't respond yet. Williams fighting in May again. That's the whole thing. My whole thing was like there was a time when Chaos Williams was only fighting in May, like the Mighty Tarasque,
Starting point is 01:03:06 just coming out once a year to sate his hunger. And it worked out pretty well. I think he did lose once in May, but it was looking pretty good. So he's back in May. It's going to be May with Chaos Williams again. It's going to be May. It's going to be May.
Starting point is 01:03:18 I'll get to the Daniel Santos note last then. The my opponent is fighting with less than a week's notice parlay. Okay, there's Pocascus and Gantt, minus 107. We can touch back on that. Shana Bannon, Fala Viana, Keltland Baerra,
Starting point is 01:03:32 all underdogs, question mark. Okay, so those are my random notes. And then, of course, Daniel Santos, colon, he fights Korean guys. He is some, is he the Korean, this will establish if he's the Korean killer or not. This is so weird. This is his third South Korean opponent in a row,
Starting point is 01:03:50 which I think everybody figured that out. Yeah, of course. But it is super weird that he fought, Zhang Yang Li and then Zhu Sang Yu and now he's fighting Korean Super Bowl, do who Troy. Should he prove victorious here? Perhaps Korean zombie comes out of retirement. Has to.
Starting point is 01:04:08 And we just keep doing, I don't know if Johnny Munoz is of Korean ancestry or something, but it's a very strange thing. I think he's been leveling up appropriately too. I do think that's the order of like how I would rank these guys, the order he's fought them. Pretty sure. Yeah, I think that's right. That feels correct.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah. And it's not even like, as far as I know, I don't think they're from the same team. So it's not even like, oh, well, he beat one of these guys and they're sort of like a personal like, oh, well, let's send this other guy up to get him. I think they're pretty sure they're all different teams in South Korea. I guess it's just a quirk of the booking. I can't imagine. We should have gotten our own Guillermo cruise on this.
Starting point is 01:04:44 I'll check the, I'm going to check the data just right now. See if he's written this up what is going on with the Korean matchmaking. But yeah, real weird. But 2 and 0 so far, Jed. So how is that informed your your betting on this fight? So my betting on this fight is is pretty Pretty tough because I mean a lot of options One Korean killer does seem like you should back him
Starting point is 01:05:06 I will say this though the other the other note And I do occasionally like to look at this You know Daniel Santos's name Willie Cat His nickname? I love one of my favorite nicknames From the Thundercats What Willie Cat is Well AKA I can consult with our
Starting point is 01:05:24 dear friend, the great Jose Youngs. And I asked him, Jose Youngs, has Superboy ever faced the Thundercats in the world of comics? Because we have Korean Superboy and one of the Thundercats. And Superboy has not, but Superman.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Superman has done a crossover with the Thundercats. And they were not very effective at combating Superman. I don't know if Superboy can be a little bit you know, easier for Willie Cat to take on. But the comic iteration
Starting point is 01:05:58 of this fist fight suggests that Willie Cat might be outnumbered here. That being said, I'm still going to bet Daniel Santos. I think this man wants to be known as the Korean killer. It feels like that's in him. And then, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:13 he, because the truth is that there's a Brazilian killer out there. But he can't, but he, there just aren't that many people that Nicholas, you know, in that weight range for him to go back at Denmark. And he never fights them in a row. I don't think he ever fights them in. I think maybe a couple.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I feel like he's never done a run of just like Brazilian Brazil. No, but he has like seven Brazilian. In total. And never lost it. I never lost. It's just, um, crazy. But I think this is just an opportunity for Daniel Santos to, uh, just continue building on this Korean killer reputation.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And I think he's going to take it. And so give me Willie Cat, uh, minus 180. Yeah. I think that's the way to go. It's a great gimmick. It's a great. Honestly, if he pulls us off, it's a great gimmick. We love a gimmick.
Starting point is 01:06:57 We love a gimmick. It'll make matchmaking real easy, too. I got to figure out if there's any, I got to look at the roster here and figure out ahead of time. Is there another Korean fighter at 140? 140. 140? No, 130, 145.
Starting point is 01:07:09 That is correct. We move on to, I'm not going to call this a feature bout. I'm going to call this the third bout from the top here. it is Juan Diaz taking on Malcolm Wellmaker Pegajoso versus the machine not the Morad de Valisraeli machine the other machine Wellmaker minus 275 betting favorite
Starting point is 01:07:34 The comeback on Diaz Around plus 225 Wellmaker lost his last one out Ethan Ewing on short notice Just whisted the barrage early And then kind of took over as that fight went on Juan Diaz coming off Continuous
Starting point is 01:07:50 series making his UFC debut, AK does Wellmaker get back on track here? I have to ask you, I got to refer to you here because Juan Diaz is a contender series guy, right? He is. What was your scouting report on one Mr. Juan Diaz? I thought that he showed some ability can mix the martial arts a little bit, but I was not overly impressed with his athleticism or was going on.
Starting point is 01:08:15 A gaudy record, 15 and 1. It's his thing. honestly not even like a terrible resume mostly fought pretty good dudes but uh his victory on contender series over uh won il kwan was nasty he was a nasty spinning back elbow uh but prior to that i just he just kind of didn't jump off the page at me whereas well maker also contender series guy very much jumped off the page at everybody the question with him was always well he's old you know he's he's 32 31 sorry only 31 years years old.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Soon to be 32, though. And, you know, just getting started in the sport. Nice dude. interviewed him before. I think this is a good matchup. Yeah. Okay. I'm just looking at that.
Starting point is 01:09:05 It's not bad odds for Diaz. Only two to one dog from what I can see. So, yeah, people know more than I do. And I imagine the odds have been affected by, of course, Wellmaker suffering his first loss to Ethan Ewing, which, again, shouldn't say anything bad about Wellmaker. Like Ethan Ewing is really good. But yeah, I bet Diaz would have been a bigger underdog if, you know, this was, what's the, what's the welcome, two and one in the UFC? This was three and O in the UFC Wellmaker instead of two and one.
Starting point is 01:09:28 So he'd definitely be a bigger underdog then. He probably wouldn't be getting the fight, though. That's true. It would move Wellmaker in another direction, yeah. It does feel like this wants to be a set up fight for Wellmaker in general. But Diaz might. Very live dog. I do think that is sort of the thing.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I would never bet Wellmaker here at this price. I think this feels like a dog or. passed to me. Diaz, much more experience. He was, I think, Lux Fight Champion. You know, like, he rips the body, get hit a little bit, so that's probably a bad thing
Starting point is 01:10:04 against the well-maker, but yeah, pretty good little fight. Like, I'm interested. I'm not betting it. No, I wouldn't either. We moved to the 215 pound division, the rarely seen cruiser weight, I guess, MMA division. As Modestis, Bukowskas takes on Christian Edwards, this is a replacement fight. Bukakis originally was supposed to take on Hadoffo, Balato, Bilato withdrew like a day
Starting point is 01:10:32 or two ago. It was very, very recent. At the time that I was putting this together, A.K., I did not have odds for this fight. However, there are odds. Bukowski is a minus 300-bedding favorite. They'd come back on Edwards plus 250. I don't frankly just have a lot to say about this particular matchup.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Do you, AK? I'll just mention again, if you're not doing the Lee Harvey-Ale Oswald parlay, but you'd want to do a parlay with Gantt. Again, him and Bukascus, both got replacement opponents this week. Buccascus was supposed to fight Balato. Gant was supposed to fight Triogden. So they both had more experienced guys and now replaced with Christian Edwards. And who was Gant fighting?
Starting point is 01:11:16 Gant is fighting. Artur. Artor Menev. So that's not about, so I got numbers on that probably minus 107. That's two-leggar, very safe. Very safe, two-leggar, minus 107. If you really think that, now, Menev is probably the shake, like, sorry, Gant has to say to shake your leg because I've seen some Menev stuff, but Gantz, both guys undefeated,
Starting point is 01:11:36 so it's a little unpredictable. But if you like, like, if you've seen Gant and you like Gantt, I think you can put him with Bukascus. I'm very confident in Bouskascus. Christian Edwards, you know, I've seen him in Bellator. He's fine. He's a fine 205er normally. But I would favor Bokascus.
Starting point is 01:11:52 But not enough that I bet him solo. I would put him together with Gant. That's a fun one. Do we throw him in a good old-fashioned parley? With? Francis Inganu and Saladin Parnasse. I don't have that much confidence in Gant. I will say.
Starting point is 01:12:09 I don't have that much confidence. Gant is the shakiest leg by far. I probably just don't know enough about Menev. So Gantz is a really shaky leg. I would not do that. Let's move on to the 135-pound division. Timi Kualamba taking on Bernardo Sopaj. Quamba is riding a two-fight winning streak.
Starting point is 01:12:27 UD. win over Chengho Li in November. Sopaj, one-on-one in the promotion, took a decision off Ricky Terseos in January of 2025. So well over a year since last we've seen him. Okay, my thoughts on this are pretty simple. Coombe is a plus 125 underdog. Sapaj minus 155. Sapaj is really not impressed me, but I don't want to bet on Kuwamba. So this is just like a, eh.
Starting point is 01:12:59 In theory, Kuwamba feels like a live dog, but I don't want to place the bet on him. So he's just not. Yeah, I wouldn't either. I do like Supai. I do think I've probably been a little more impressed than you have. I'm not saying he's like, oh, he's blown me away. This guy's going to be a future champion for sure. But I do kind of like what I've seen from him.
Starting point is 01:13:18 So I think the odds are right. I think I would actually take Supai straight. I actually think like minus whatever. What did you say? Did you have your is minus 150 something? Minus 155. Dude, I would sell people like,
Starting point is 01:13:29 I don't think that's bad. I wouldn't go in a parlay. I would just keep on its own. I don't know about the method of victory. I think I would just take the money line. I like him. We move to the UFC prelims now. Because I think that was the last main card fight.
Starting point is 01:13:44 I've lost track. It was the last main court fight. Nicola Veriteneck. taking on the aforementioned Chaos Williams back in May. There was a three-fight stretch where all Chaos Williams did was fight in May. He's back. He's back. He's on a two-fight winning streak in May, so we can say that.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Veritinochov, you know, win one, lost one in the UFC for a while. T-KO. Nico Price in February, make of that win what you will. Chaos, two-fight losing streak. deed by the other Gustafsson, Andreas Gustafsson, at 316 in June, so almost a full year out from him. The odds on this fight are extremely close. We are looking at a coin flip fight here, and I think the reason we're looking at a coin flip fight is this feels like a coin flip fight to me.
Starting point is 01:14:37 So, you know, you can maybe find a little bit of plus money on Veritinochov, but not enough to entice me to make a bet either way. I do think Veritinov is maybe like a little more technical or whatever, but that just might not matter because Chaos Williams hits real hard and he can get hit. I don't bet against Chaos in May. That's it. That's a strict rule. Do not bet against Chaos in May.
Starting point is 01:15:05 That's a good rule. I think, you know, if you wanted to even find like a Chaos Chaos. K.O. prop, that might be some fun you could have there. We move on AK. I mean, we are flying through these prelims for reasons I think you can understand. The 205 pound division as Tucco Tocos takes on even Erzlan, Ivan Erzlan. Not Igbo Aslan. Not Ebo Aslan, even Erzlin.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Tokos plus 165 the comeback on Erzlin minus 200 about a 2 to 1 betting favorite. Despite the fact that even Erzlin has lost a whole lot, all three of his Eofc fights. he has come up short after joining the promotion from KSW. Tokos meanwhile, armed atopha, or sorry, arm triangle choked atafa in July of last year. So, AK, you surprised that even Erzlin is a two to one betting favorite
Starting point is 01:16:02 despite being 0 and 3 in the UFC. This is a horrible fight. Is that a good one? Is that a mean thing to say? It's bad. It's true. This is a really bad fight. Ursula has 0 and 3 in the UFC.
Starting point is 01:16:20 He got reverse can opener last time. Is that true? I don't know. That's how it's listed on Sherdog. I honestly don't remember. That's so terrible.
Starting point is 01:16:30 That's not good. That's not a good way to lose a UFC fight. You shouldn't be getting caught by one of those. The quote-unquote UFC level. I am shocked that... I'm not shocked that he's favored because not like Tilco is a world beater anyway. But the fact that he's even close to like minus 200 is bizarre to me.
Starting point is 01:16:48 That is, who can have that level of confidence in either, man? It seems pretty nuts to me. Stay away. Stay away. Please stay away, stay away, stay away. Yeah. Yep, that's honestly just a great full stop on that one. We moved to the lightweight division.
Starting point is 01:17:06 The aforementioned Tommy Gantt taking on Arter Minnev. Hold on. have odds up here. Let me see if I've got odds on this one. Now I do. Gantt minus 225. The comeback on Minyev plus 200. Gant might also be a little bit bigger depending on your book and what I'm looking at right now. Gantt undefeated joining the UFC off the contender series from last season. Minive head hunter also undefeated, a battle of undefeated's, right? coming from Fury FC, making his UFC debut, again, as you mentioned previously, on short notice.
Starting point is 01:17:47 A.K., what do you got here? Any other thoughts to add to what you previously said? I just like him with the parlay of Bucascus. Minnav, though, coming off a win over Derek Campo. Remember Derek Campos? Belator's Derek Campos? Multiple Dio. Sure.
Starting point is 01:18:00 20 times for Bellator almost. He beat him. Campos probably a little past his best before date, if we're being honest. So maybe that win doesn't mean as much. but that is notable probably the biggest name on either man's resume but yeah again i like the parlay with buchas and i i think gant is decent so um but menev's a bit of a wild card guys he's a wild card yeah i truthfully just don't know that much about menev i do like gant um i did not grade him
Starting point is 01:18:27 super highly coming off contender series only him two stars um because his primary issue is he is old he is malcolm mowmaker was kind of old in contender series time of gain is 33 um You know, he is, he's old. Yep. And he is working with Daniel Cormier. He's an NCAA All-American wrestler. But, you know, the other guys who have been that age and gotten into the sport with that background were better. You know, Daniel Cormier was a world bronze medalist multiple-time Olympian.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Gregor Gillespie was, who's kind of, I think, the closest comp I had for Gantz. Greg Gillespie was a four-time All-American in one of the deeper weight class in American wrestling at the time. Tommy Gant was a good wrestler, but not a great one. He's All-American. One-time, All-American? NC State. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:23 That's a good wrestler. It's not a great one. You are a collegiate champion. You are a youth champion is what being a collegiate all-American. Sure. It's, fortunately. So, you know, just not, I think he's probably going to get this W. And I do want to see, like, what noise he can make in the limited amount of time he has.
Starting point is 01:19:43 But I think his ceiling is fairly limited because of getting into the sport. Of course. So very late. We move to a cracker of a women's fight. Probably, like, arguably the best fight of this weekend is not the main event? Before we do this. Can we do Bures-Garule first? because I kind of, and I know it sounds such respectful,
Starting point is 01:20:03 but I do kind of want to lump the women's fights together, but only because there's a, like, that's sort of a betting trend thing, like I need to point out. Okay, buddy, if you want to do it, you're, you're jacking up my whole style here. I know, I'm sorry. Also, I feel like for the sake of expediency, uh, perhaps.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Let me move my notes. Okay. Scroll through the notes here. I'm so sorry. To get to Bres and Garulet. And also let me see if the odds have shifted on this fight at all, because I don't know if they have. have or not.
Starting point is 01:20:33 We move at AK's request to the flyweight division for a contest between Daniel Perez and Luis Garoulli, which is basically a stone pick of minus one tens on either side. Berez coming into this fight, having lost two of his three outings in the UFC as a lone winning coming over Victor Altamorano, most recently fought in March of last year losing to Andre Lima. Luis Garouli, meanwhile. Oh, and three. So we could do a parlay of oh and three guys who are not betting underdogs because he most
Starting point is 01:21:12 recently lost to Alden Coria in February to drop to O'N3. This feels very much like a pink slip derby. A.K. I got not a lot going on here. I do strongly anticipate this one. We'll go to the cards. I'm not trying to bet in over here. I'm just not trying to be involved in this fight.
Starting point is 01:21:33 I don't think I can find. Did you find odds for an over? Oh, I'm sure that there must be odds for it. I'll grab a round. Oh, they're definitely your odds. Over one and a half? Oh, pretty, pretty tough. Minus 400-ish for the over one and a half.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Over two and a half. I'll just go to the distance at that point. Go the distance minus 160-ish. Okay, I mean, possible? I will not be partaking of that. I was asking. I was just going to ask, why is
Starting point is 01:21:59 Guru Le who is like 0 and 3? How is he even to pick him here? And then I realized, Berez is a 37 and a half year old flyweight. Yeah, he's not very good. That's a, that's really old for flyweight. And he's not very good.
Starting point is 01:22:12 It's important to remember that he's not very good. Okay, well, I was trying to dance around that, but fine, fair. We are an hour and 20 into this show. I'm not, there's no, there's no dancing. No, okay. And that's why let's, I got to wrap this. got to wrap it up So you didn't ask for this, A.K.,
Starting point is 01:22:29 but you want to do all the women's fights together? I do, I do, I'm sorry. So we're going to go to the middleweight division for the last men's fight we'll discuss this weekend. Oh, there's still another fight? Oh, God. Oh, okay. Andre Petrovsky takes on Cody Brundage in the middleweight division.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Brundig plus 170 underdog Petroski coming in as the betting favorite at minus 2.10. A.K., let me tell you. the middle weights, they're going to middleweight in here. Petroski, he has lost two in a row. Cody Brundage, yet another man who's lost three fights in a row. We got a lot of fighters who've lost three fights in a row. You want to put them all together.
Starting point is 01:23:11 You're going to get some healthy odds there. You know, at least Brundage is a dog this time. The others have not been underdogs. Brundage is a dog. This feels to me, AK, like we are going to just be middle. waiting all over this cage. Go the distance plus 120. I mean, unless you can get plus on like any other.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Not unreasonable whatsoever. Yeah, yeah. There's like start round three minus 136. But now, man, be brave. Go the distance. Go the, it's going all the way. If you think it's going around three, you think it's going the distance, all right?
Starting point is 01:23:44 So just take the plus. Genuinely, probably just a straight up, no doubt, like good bet. Man, is Cody do, though? I mean, one, so one four and one, won no contest in his past seven fights. This is his second fight in 70 days. He fought in March.
Starting point is 01:24:00 This is six fights since March of last year. You've seen a lot of Brundage. If you tuned into a random UFC card over last year... You saw him losing. There's a good chance you saw Cody Brundage in action. That's crazy. And I think every time he fights, I'm always like tweeting or like talking on the next one saying like,
Starting point is 01:24:17 you know, Cody Brunich just take a break. Like, I know a man's got to eat, but he's just take a break in there? No, he's hop right back in. get paid. He's been losing to just bad, bad people too. Oh, Cody. Hey, Cody, as long as the checks keep coming,
Starting point is 01:24:30 I keep getting in there, I guess. Keep getting them checks, baby. And now we move to a triple header, a trifecta of women's bouts across a couple of weight classes. You know, we're not, we don't have the full Neapolitan. We don't have one of each,
Starting point is 01:24:48 but we do have one women's bantam weight bouts, the bantam weight bouts. The bantam weight bouts is the way we'll start because on paper, arguably, the best fight of the weekend other than UFC's main event, we have ranked women's bantam weights going at it as Ketland Vieira takes on Jacqueline Cavalcante Viera plus 140 to comeback on Cavalcante minus 170 as your betting favorite. Cavalcante coming in off the split decision loss to Norma Dumont in no, I'm sorry, Riviera coming in off the split decision lost Norman Dumont in November.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Kevukante, meanwhile, riding a heater in the UFC. Since joining the promotion in 2023, she has five wins in a row. And, I mean, this is the one. This is much like, you know, be a mosquito and everybody else. Jocelyn Edwards were finally getting an opportunity to move up the rankings against Ketland Vieira. her most recent win was a unanimous decision over Myra Buena Silva in November, aka an undeniably quality women's bantam weight fight is going down on Saturday,
Starting point is 01:26:04 buried in the prelims. How do you feel about it? I don't tell how I feel about this. I'm seeing Veda. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm seeing Calvacanti around minus 180. Jet, are you seeing that number as well, minus 80? Is there minus 200 anywhere?
Starting point is 01:26:18 Is there minus 180? Yeah, minus 180. is around what we're looking. I'm seeing Alice O'Dellion minus 205. I'm seeing Nicole Calliari
Starting point is 01:26:30 minus 235. None of these women should be two to one favorites. I think this is ridiculous. Calva Conti has the best case, I get it,
Starting point is 01:26:42 but she also has the toughest opponent of all those women I just named. Like I know 10%. Maybe Kelman Verda, okay, where she's just,
Starting point is 01:26:47 like you said, maybe she's just a number to be taken to this point. Totally possible. Like, I mean, she could be like,
Starting point is 01:26:52 I don't look at Mara Vena Silva, she's on a, what, like a four-fight losing streak. Maybe that's where Ketland is, too. Like, I thought she'd beat Norman Dumont. She didn't win that fight. So maybe that's just where she is. She's just declining. I don't know. But, and that line is closer to, but I am surprised that Cavalcanti is almost two to one.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Alice of D'ralian, again, how could she be two to one against anyone? I know Pollyanna Viana has not been in great form, I understand. Crazy to me. And once again, no call Kaliari. Minus 235. What is going on, Jed? What is going on with these odds? None of these women that I name should be two to one favorites.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Do you agree? I might be okay with Kevokane being it. A hundred percent on Ardellian and Kaliari. I mean, to be fair, Shana Bannon, the fact that her name, she's not, Shauna the Cannon Bannon, offends me. Okay. But also is very not good. Caliari is, oh and two?
Starting point is 01:27:50 Though she does have a win over the Sartrean. Yes. Why is she not closer lines? Look, I agree with you on all this. I thought you were going to want to talk about the Vieira Cavalcanti fight for a very different, very specific reason. Tell me. And since you didn't bring it up, I have to. A.K., not that long ago, you told me something.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Wasn't on this show, but you told me interpersonally when I was debating the climb. I was saying, you know, can't get things going. I think one of the big issues I'm having with the climb is that unfortunately, I keep betting the over in women's fights, and I'm getting crushed. Alexa Grosso is finishing people. You know, who was the other one who did Tatiana Suarez finished,
Starting point is 01:28:44 and they ruined my climb over two and a half. And you said, for science, what you need to do is Jocelyn Edwards, Norma Dumont, you take the over two and a half on that, And I did, and the science, it worked. The over two and a half for Kettlein, Jacqueline Cavalcanti, is minus 5.25, AK. This is a Ketlin Viero who has gone to. I'm going to count it out right now because I lost the number.
Starting point is 01:29:14 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, nine decisions in a row in the UFC. It is a Cavalcante who has gone to all five. UFC fights have gone to the cards and even a couple of fights before then. The over two and a half in this fight is minus 525. Unless you give me a very good reason, this is at least step two of the time. I'm supposed to be your advisor. I'm supposed to be taking a hard stance. I thought we agreed just rousey.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Just rousey shit. I wanted to talk about this because this is, how is that number of my minus 525. I want you to this, I want the winning client to begin with a step,
Starting point is 01:30:00 not a hop. How is this a minus 525 though? Can you just bet it and not include it as part of the client? No. Or would you would feel foolish
Starting point is 01:30:08 if you did that. I would rather bet this than Rousey, quite frankly. This relationship is already off to a rocky start. As many great working relationships.
Starting point is 01:30:19 It's for science, A.K., we must fly closer to the sun. I really don't see how this ends in a fin of Yeah, because you've never seen Jacqueline Cavalcanti finish. This is our first. You're right.
Starting point is 01:30:33 This is our first. I mean, we've, you know, we've worked informally for many years on this kind of, on this climb project. This is my first time I feel like as officially part of the team. Against my better judgment, we're going to hop on. We're going to hop on to that first under the mountain. Yes. Two foot and hop. Two foot and hop onto the mountain.
Starting point is 01:30:50 That's right. We're just going to start. Get some real momentum. Because you're, you know, you trip. Oh, guess what? You chip. Oh, you fight back on your feet. It's perfect.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Okay. Yeah, when I was looking at this, I was like, I'll probably get burned. Jacqueline Cavalcate will somehow score finished for the first time they never. Just spinning head kick. But it'll be fine. As far as the Bannon Kaliari, I do honestly just think if you bet all three dogs, it probably isn't bad math. Like just, I'm not going to do it. But if you wanted to do it, boys.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Not parley, not parley, by the way. We're saying separate. I will say I don't love a lot of the overs in these others. You know, Kaliari gets finished or gets finishes. Correct. Yes. Same thing for Adelian. So, like, I don't think you can do the, like, let's just smash the overs on all of these.
Starting point is 01:31:41 But the women's band and weight fight, all of the math suggests that this fight is going 15 minutes. And that price is only minus 500. That seems like something we should we should invest in, boys and girls. I still can't play our Dileon is a two to one favorite. I think I saw that like yesterday. And I was like, I like her. She's very famous. I like her whole gimmick.
Starting point is 01:32:01 I love, I think her, her social media stuff is so funny. Like, I like that they have her on the roster. Good for her. She should not be, should not ever be a two to one favorite. That's great. She's famous, and that means you get a little extra love from the public. Good for her. A.K. you get all the love from me because you have been on this journey with me for 90 minutes
Starting point is 01:32:19 talking about these two fight cards, which together make one pretty decent fight card apart. make 25 fights of watching um hopefully it'll be fun we'll have a good time and uh we'll see what this whole mma MVP experience is you know we are i think it's going to be it's certainly going to be big we'll be talking about it you know it will break contain to the broader public in general and uh we'll see if if it has any long lasting effect so this is something they can continue to build on or if this is just a shot you know one shot in the Japan. After that, we're going to have a week off, AK. There is no major MMA next week that we are covering, to the best of my knowledge. And thus, there will be no bets barred next week. We will take a week off before we head to Macau for you to see Macau. And not a bad card. Certainly got some action going on in that card. So thank you all for tuning in to No Bet's Bar this week. Good luck on your bets this weekend. AK, of course. appreciate you. See y'all in two weeks. Love y'all.
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