MMA Fighting - No Bets Barred: Who Will Win $1 Million At The Special Thanksgiving PFL Championship Feast?

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

The No Bets Barred boys are back this week with a deep dive into the PFL Championship card on this special Thanksgiving Week episode. On Friday, the 2023 PFL Championships go down in Washington D.C. a...nd co-hosts Connor Burks and Jed Meshew are here to break down all the big fights on this special holiday fight week. Topics discussed include the wisdom of Wiki-capping, which underdogs are worth throwing a few units on, and even another All-In bet from Jed. Will this one backfire like he last All-In bet did? Tune in Friday to find out. Tune in for episode 70 of No Bets Barred. Follow Conner Burks: @connerburks Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:15 I'll go ahead and call this one a special edition of No Bet's Bart. I mean, who else has given this to you? I mean, it's few and far between. We have. back for the PFL World Championships taking place this Friday, Black Friday, special holiday weekend in Washington, D.C., the nation's capital. Six champions will be crowned six million dollar winners. One of my favorite days of the year, don't know about you, Jed, but how we feel in regardless. I mean, it's, isn't a doubly important day because as we now know, Connor, this is actually the premier mixed martial arts organization in the world is now hosting event on Friday. Co-leaders.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Co-leaders in the space as we've been informed. I love that framing of it. Co-leaders. I guess depends who you talk to. Big move by them purchasing Bellator. We'll see how it works out. Don't know if I'd go as far to say co-leaders just yet. I do this flash.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I would not. And I've got a lot of content. I'm part of various pieces of content this week on NMAFindon.com website, where I vehemently deny that. And I will just say that the last person we heard makes such bold claims. This little man known as Chachry Sitjeetong and one championship. And if you've looked at the news lately, one's having a bit of a tough time.
Starting point is 00:03:44 So maybe you don't want to come out saying things like that until you know you can back it up. But that's neither here nor there. Has nothing to do as a championship. I do just have to say, yeah. I mean, you're delusional if you think you're the co-leaders. It's the UFC and then an ocean to the next person. Ocean might not even be a vast enough space.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Like we're talking, we're not talking about between continents. We're talking about between planets in the solar system. That's the gap that you're looking to clear here. I have many, many friends that will casually turn on. the UFC. I don't even know if I have a friend that knows what the PFL is. Do you think, because here's the question I always wanted, I wanted to find a way to ask. If you told people what, like, the concept, hey, the PFL is an MMA organization. Do you think they could even name the letters? Do you think they could get to Professional
Starting point is 00:04:43 Fighters League? I think they probably could just because, just because it's like so obvious. Like, it's like, it's the NFL, but it's the PFL. Like, it's just like, it's so obvious. I don't know. Like, I think they'd get fighter and they'd probably get league. I don't know if they'd get professional, though. It's not the professional football league. It's the national football.
Starting point is 00:05:07 It sure is. So I don't, I don't know. Let's, you know, run a test, ask a couple friends. We'll circle back, you know, when we're lacking content. And then we can solve this, this important question. That is not what we're here to talk about, though. We are here to talk about the PFL World Championships taking place. This Friday, I mean, it's just become synonymous with Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Turkey, football, PFO World Championships. The FFL the Friday after, it's going to be, it's, and now, and now it's, it might even be more synonymous. Now we've got Black Friday football is a new thing happening this year. So you just, you watch Thanksgiving and football, you watch the parade in the morning, you're ready for the Christmas season, you go out, you shop, You come home, you watch Black Friday football, and then you tune into the PFL paper view. And you pay $49.99 for the PFL pay per view. While you're shopping, you might as well pay $50 for this pay per view.
Starting point is 00:06:00 It's a steep price tag. Steep, steep price tag. To say the least. All right. Enough about that. Enough of all that. Let's get into this card. Connor, I just have to say.
Starting point is 00:06:12 One more thing. Look, on Black Friday, when I've gone and I've spent a hefty amount of money, buying my family, my children gifts. I just paid for Thanksgiving dinner, which newsflash, cooking Thanksgiving dinner for the first time this year. Wow. Did not know that it was like as expensive as it is to get all of the stuff to cook it. You know what I want to do after I've bought and cooked Thanksgiving dinner and gone out shopping
Starting point is 00:06:38 on Black Friday? I want to put another 50 bucks. What's another 50? Go ahead and swipe the card, baby. What's another 50? It's not a 20 spot, not a 10 spot. It's a $50 for this thing. Ain't nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Ain't nothing after I paid for Thanksgiving dinner and all the above. I just want to go back there in that sentence. You have kids. No, no, no, no. I was just that's it. No, no, no, no, no children. I realized as I was saying it, it was going to come off that way. I was like, I'll just power through it.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah, I was going to be like, holy shit, we've done this podcast for like almost two years now. And I had no idea you had children. I do not have children that I know about. But if I did, I would have no issue looking little Timmy in the face and saying, and know that you really wanted a razor scooter, but I had to get you a knock off one because we're getting the BFL Paperview, okay? Let's go.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Go ahead and sit down there, big time. Early Christmas present, Tim. Yeah, enjoy. We're going BFL pay-per-view. Thanks. Appreciate it, though. Yeah, so I have a ridiculous amount of bets on this card. I did last year as well because I was in attendance.
Starting point is 00:07:43 It was at the beautiful Hulu Theater here in New York City. And up until, I mean, just a couple of days. days ago, I was under the impression that I was going to be attending again in beautiful Washington, D.C., one of my favorite cities, got family there. But alas, it didn't work out some unforeseen circumstances. But I had already placed about seven wagers before knowing that. So, yeah, I'm now at nine wagers. I have a parlay that carried over from last week. It was a little Bellator PFL crossover. And I still have one more parlay than I'm waiting to place once the props drop. So, yeah, I mean, I'm littered on this card.
Starting point is 00:08:22 We're not going to sit here and go through every single fight and give our technical breakdowns and the impact that it'll have on the landscape of MMA. Just kind of fire it off. Just kind of go with what you're feeling. So I'll start. I mean, we'll start with the main event. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:08:39 We talked about this before. I was like, how many bets do you have? Because I had two. You're like, I have a ton. And when you said that, I want to be clear, when you said that I was like, well, I can't. I got to carry my own way. So I very quickly just fired from the hip on several of these.
Starting point is 00:08:57 If I'm going to go to a card in person, I'm stacking up the bet. I'm just being brutally honest. If I'm going to be at a card in person, you got to bet your ass off. Doesn't matter if you win. Doesn't matter if you lose. It's cooler if you win. But you got to have all the action. So that's what I thought I was doing.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Now I just get to sit on my couch on Black Friday and have a bunch of bets anyway. It's going to be great. you're going to make all the money you need to cover that PFL pay-per-view price. I hope so. I hope so. I've beaten quite a few lines, but it doesn't mean anything until you cash them. I beat the hell out of the Yaroslav Msov line last week, and that didn't matter at all. He got knocked out in the third round. Shocker. Didn't see that one coming. Did not see that one coming. All right. The main event, I mean, not going to get technical with this. Clay Collar, taking on Olivier Aubin-Mersier, trying to go back to back to
Starting point is 00:09:48 back OAM is. Allegedly, maybe his final fight ever, too. Whoa. I mean, that just ramps it up and makes me feel even better about this bed.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I mean, the resurgence this guy's had in PFL 9 and O. I'm betting OAM. I mean, it's just that easy. What'd you get at that? Laying some chalk on them,
Starting point is 00:10:06 took him at minus 200 flat. Okay. It's coming a little, but so I'm, we're lined here. This is one of the things I shot on except for I'm not betting OAM straight. I'm taking all,
Starting point is 00:10:18 Take a little prop play on OAM by decision. Okay. All right. Plus 225. Like he's won a couple by knockout. I think his last two were finishes. I remember the knee of dude whose name I don't remember. Yeah, three of his last four.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah. But I mean, prior to that, all this man did was he was a decision merchant. Clay Collard, he has been stopped before, but mostly when he loses its by decision, and he tends to be pretty durable. I think plus 225 felt like a good enough price to take stab at. So what I actually considered other than the money line, I didn't play it just because of the number I was hoping it was going to be kind of higher. I was interested in what you were going to say.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Clay Collard, very tough, very durable. I don't see OAM finishing him. But if I was going to take a finish prop, I think I'd take the submission. I would agree with that, definitely. Collard had been submitted three times. OAM, despite not having submitted anyone in a hot minute since 2016, he hasn't submitted anyone. Still, eight wins by submission. He's got a few of them on the resume.
Starting point is 00:11:28 He's going to have top position, I think, in this fight. So, yeah, I think if you're going to go for that kind of a prop, go for that. Plus 2.25, though. I was like, man, this guy hasn't submitted anyone in almost a decade, seven years. We're only in plus 225. I was like, plus 400, I would really be. I'd really be itching for something. I'm getting plus 225, and he's won a lot of decisions in the last decade, let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yeah, a lot of decisions, yes. I like that. I like that. Co-main event, heavyweights. Hanan Ferreira taking on Dennis Goldsov. Yeah, so Hanan Ferreira kind of interesting, just a giant dude. I mean, he's just massive 6-8, like 85-inch reach or something. But to me, like, he kind of just has like the K-O power.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I've bet on him and lost on several occasions. I know if you go to his record, he's technically two and one in his last three. A couple no contests on there. Kunev and Klits and Abraeu both tested positive after the fact. But he very much lost those fights. He got dominated in both via decision. So he's really two and three in his last five. And the wins this year, Matei,
Starting point is 00:12:44 Sheffel and Mo Green. Not blowing me out of the water. Big Mo Green. Yeah. So I'm actually taking two bets on this one. Goldsov and I'm taking the under one and a half. That just came out this afternoon. Goldsov, four of his last five ended in the first round.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Ferreira, five of his last seven ended in the first round. Think this is, I think it's just a heavyweight bout where someone is going to get got. Thought about parlaying upfight doesn't go to a decision, but it came out of like minus 1,600. So I'm just. Five round. Yeah, five rounds, for sure. Yeah, look, either Hanan's going to put the mitts on him or Goltov probably gets him down and taps him, or maybe some ground to pound.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I'm on the other way, though. This is not a big breakdown. I'm shooting from the hip here. I don't want big breakdowns. I don't want big breakdowns. It's the holidays. I got places to be. I got people to see.
Starting point is 00:13:34 We're having some fun. Spirit is in the air. We've got a lot of cheer. We don't need to bog you down with deep PFO breakdowns. You want to be totally honest? I didn't watch one minute of tape for this. Oh, neither did I. Not even one second. Didn't want to.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I've, I mean, that's why I'm shooting from the hip-on-fair. Been there. I've watched Verre in person. Wiki-capping, baby. I love it. Put the mitts on people and, uh, he hits real hard. He's a real big dude. Very, very imposing individual.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Um, and so it's like, uh, underdog, sure. Why not? Let's have a little fun. Let's have a little fun. I like it. I mean, if that's how, if, what is, what is his K.O. prop? It's got to be something kind of tantle. I think it was like,
Starting point is 00:14:13 plus 210 or something, whereas he's just 190. When, one, one not. Yeah, never mind. But I mean, he's, he's going to win, yeah. If he's going to win, it's going to be that. Yeah, he's, he's, plus I just, I just asked the magic eight ball and it's like, yeah, bet him. It was like, okay, magic ape ball.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Oh, I like that. Magic A ball correctly last week steered me away from, you know, betting Paul Craig as an underdog. It's starting to know what it's talking about, the old magic gate ball. Shout out. Boarding for flight 246 to Toronto is the, late 50 minutes. Ugh, what?
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Starting point is 00:15:45 This needs no breakdown. Yeah, Larissa Pacheco taking on Marina Makina. Yeah, I have Larissa Pacheco in a parlay that extended from Bellator last week with Kura Magamadov and finishes with Kayla Harrison. Hopefully Pacheco will actually be the one finishing it. Yeah, I mean, I got Pacheco, and I am also going to play Pacheco as a single by knockout plus 100. I can't even. I'm honestly shocked that that.
Starting point is 00:16:14 is plus 100. That's a terrific price. Yeah, like, if we're just, if we're just like really putting the number, she's minus 650. Can I still get, can I still get that price? Uh, minus 105, sitting right there for you on, uh, bet online right now. And I'm sure it's going to populate on other books for a similar price. We're going to get ourselves involved in that. Minus 650, Larissa Pacheco. Minus 325, fight doesn't go to a decision. Yeah, just, gosh, you kind of feel like that's, that's, That's my best bet here, you know. I mean, I'm a square. I'm a chalk donkey.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I love it. But, I mean, if you look at the- Might be the best bet in the history of the sport. You look at the PFL for her. She's got five rounds to do it. Seven of her 11 wins in the PFL coming up by way of knockout. Now, here's one argument you could make. Marina is tough.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Never been finished. Went to three rounds with Kayla Harrison, survived. I think the only other person in the PFL to survive the full distance other than the rest of Pacheco. But I don't know, man. Pacheco is just. She's a hammer. Hammer, dude.
Starting point is 00:17:17 She blasts people. Like, it's, I think just a, I think in her last fight, yeah, against Kalesnik, they gave me Pacheco round one, like minus 1.30. That was like the biggest highway robbery of all time because she had already. She finished her in 64 seconds or something. And then she finished. No, the first time she fought, she finished her in 64 seconds or something. Yes. Yeah. No, she had already beaten her twice in the first round,
Starting point is 00:17:49 and then they gave me like minus 130 on first round again. I mean, it's just absolutely insane. So, yeah, I'm on Pacheco, and I'm on Pacheco by knockout. I'm on that Pacheco by knockout, and I have Pacheco in a parlay, which we'll get to the, it's a two-leg parlay, and I'll get to the second leg of that parlay as we continue moving through. And we continue to move through to another tournament championship this time. A lot of tournament championships. Six of them. Six millies. Six millies giving out big old
Starting point is 00:18:20 checks coming into the octagon, into the smart cage. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I could be, I could be up to 300 minutes of tournament fighting. Is that right? I think that's right. Either way, at the welterweight division, Magomed Magomed Karamov taking on Sadie Bousai, the defending champ from last year, attempting to go back to back. And I'm on Magamemad, Mogamov. It's a minus 138. So am I. This feels like a bet I'm either going to look back on and be like, wow, that was easy money. I'm surprised it was that closely lined or I'm like, yep, they got me.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Vegas got me. Sadie Bousai. I was on Sadi Bousai last time out and I almost pulled my hair out of my head against Carlos Lille. I mean, that was very low volume. Leal. I honestly watching it live, I thought Leo won. Like I, I was watching it on like an 80-foot TV too at a, at a bar. Thought Leo one was surprised that I cashed the Sadiebu ticket.
Starting point is 00:19:27 And I mean, Magamette, Magamette Karamov is, he's nasty. He's nasty, dude. So yeah, I'm riding with, plus when you got two Magameds in your name, you're probably getting my money. Double Magamette, strong. Yeah. Yeah. Sadd Bousai is a fine fighter, but not a very good one. Magamem. Double Magamad has probably been like the best welterweight in PFL these past two years, depending on kind of what Ray Cooper's where he's at. But circumstances have convened to kind of keep him out of the spot.
Starting point is 00:20:03 And now here he is. He's going to get his finally get his chance. I think he's going to convert. I'm with you on him. Just wanted to throw it out there, too, just two years ago. This is actually Mago-Meghame-Karamov, Sadi Bousai 2. Magum-Mah-Makam-Karimov taking the first fight via decision. Thought about taking a little poke on Karamov by knockout, plus 400, but I think I'm going to just ride the money line. I'm riding the money line.
Starting point is 00:20:28 No props on this one for me. Plus 450 by knockout. Yeah, I'll still stay away, though. We keep it rolling right along. Do we have one more tournament bout? We do. We do. the light heavyweight division we actually have two more uh but we got on the main card yeah last one
Starting point is 00:20:45 on the main card it is impa kassangana taking on josh silvera um and yeah this is actually one of one of two vibe bets uh that i have for the weekend i'm i'm rocking with impa i'm just take him i've liked the way he's looking plus what a story it would be he started this year on the pfl challenger series now finds himself 4-0 fighting for a chance to go 5-0 and a chance at a million dollars just two years removed from getting cut from the UFC
Starting point is 00:21:19 and now he has a chance to be a champion and the co-leader in the world of mixed martial arts yeah it's just a vibes bet I actually have two bets on this one and the under two and a half which is still sitting right at minus 144 I was actually surprised this opened there
Starting point is 00:21:35 Silvera 11 of his 13 fights have not gone the distance. Four of five ended in the first round. Empa, seven of nine, seven of his last nine have not seen a third round. I mean, both these dudes can crack. Both these dudes can finish. I, uh, yeah, I'm actually surprised at this one. And this could just be an incorrect line, but under two and a half, minus 144. And, uh, if you roll over to fight doesn't go to a decision, minus 325. I know it's a five-rounder. Actually, I just put two and two together
Starting point is 00:22:11 that it's a five-rower. But either way, under two and a half, that's what I will be on. I like that under two and a half. I also, you know what else I like? I like that our vibes are just, they're not the same this week. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I'm on Josh. Give me Conan's baby boy. Yes. Getting out there. Pure vibes. Like, I won't at all be surprised if Impa Impa has looked real good. but I think Josh has looked pretty good.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Dude has a presence when you're around him. He certainly seems to believe he's the next big thing. Sure does. And if you can't beat Impa in the co-leader, you know, then you're not it. So my vibes are on the underdog here. Matt Josh Silvera, great guy. Really does. He has an aura about him.
Starting point is 00:22:56 That's what they say. When he gets the orange shorts on for 205, those orange beautiful orange shorts, there's an aura about him. Let's keep it rolling on the main card. Kayla Harrison, taking on Aspen Ladd. Short notice for Aspen Ladd here, this fight's supposed to take place at 145? Do we see Kayla Harrison weigh in at 146 pounds or less on Thursday morning?
Starting point is 00:23:21 Sure. Why not? Either way. I think this is going to be Kayla Harrison. I know she's coming off the loss a year away. But I mean, let's be real. like Larissa Pacheco is not just like some can that that upset her like that was that was a very close fight and Pacheco is just really good I think she just continues to get better and I think I'm I've Aspen Ladd is is Aspen Ladd and and I think Kell Harrison gets it done she is a parley piece for me uh I'm always always fully with you on this one uh I've got Kayla Harrison on BTL this week we pre-recorded since Thursday is, you know, Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:24:03 We're not going to show on. It you give. On it this week, we, I compared Aspen Ladd to a quiz. You know, she's not a test. She's certainly not like a final exam or anything major, but it's at least interesting to see what Kayla Harrison looks like coming back, but it should be pretty easy for her to get this handled. And this is the other leg.
Starting point is 00:24:27 It's a two-leg chalk parlay. It is Kayla Harrison. It is Larissa Pacheco. It is a beautiful minus 330. And you know what we're doing on that minus 330, Connor? We're going all in. Oh, yeah. We're taking the full bankroll outside of the other bets we're making here.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And we're shoving it all in because I got to tell you, I've never been more confident in my life about a bet. Oh, yeah. When have minus 600 or greater women's MMA bets ever failed us before? I can't think of this. They've never failed. They've never failed. once this is I would bet like I'd bet a toe on this one like if wow that's that's how confident I would
Starting point is 00:25:09 bet a digit on this so that's actually kind of how I feel honestly because I got three units started with kura magamadov ends with pacheco and Kayla Harrison yeah I feel like they get it done seems really likely feel pretty pretty confident that they're they're going to get that bad boy done uh thought about Fight doesn't go to a decision minus 175, but I don't know. I could see Aspen Lad surviving, like just a dominant loss. Could be.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I could also see Kayla Harrison just finish here. Kelly Harrison by submission plus 465. Wait, Kayla Harrison by submission is plus 465. Yeah, not a bad. We're going to bet that. All right, we're doing it live on the show right now. Yeah, we're going to get in on that. Let me find that.
Starting point is 00:25:56 There it is, bet online at AG. Only one with the props right now. only one with the proper doodle do's killer harrison has six ones by submission I mean I won't like shove in on this because you know maybe she just gets you know top position pounds are out
Starting point is 00:26:12 but Kayla Harrison by sub feels like that's a half uni on her very possible I'll throw a half uni on her and we're doing all this and then it's going to be uh Kayla Harrison wins by knockout on the rissa pacheco wins by submission well then it happens you know that's okay because I'm going all in as long as they win that's all that matters to me All right, we keep it rolling to another main card fight.
Starting point is 00:26:34 The final one. Non-title one and our final fight on the main card. Ray Cooper, the third. Not the first, not the second. Not the fourth, but the third takes on Derek Brunson, making his PFL debut, Blonde Brunson. Welcome to the MMA co-leader. Just lateral move from Derek.
Starting point is 00:26:55 You know, he went from co-leader, co-leader. Pretty much. I mean, it doesn't get much better. than this. I am almost certain he's making a shit ton of money doing this. I can't imagine that he's not. But dude, we've seen UFC fighters come to the PFL. Some decent names come to the PFL. Tiago Santos, lost Rob Wilkinson. Shane Burgos, one and two this year in the PFL. Knocked out. Knocked out of the playoffs. How's pretty Tony Pettis doing? Is that a second under a well? One and four for old Anthony Pettis.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Rory MacDonald came over to the MMA co-leader. Did that go well? Did that go well? Two and four. Just recently saw Marlon Marius come over. Oh, and three, knocked out and... Well, that one at least right off because he was already like four and, like, oh and four in his run to the U.S.C. So that one's a little bit better, but these other ones are tough.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I do have to say, Marlon Marius. Anthony Pettis as well, Marlon Marius is a kind, kind soul. I really feel bad for him. I've never seen a downfall so steep. I mean, the guy in like, what was, when did he fight Henry Sehudo? And he was like, on the live odds, he was like minus 400 or something to win the belt. And then just like two and a half years later, he's. Henry Sehudo ended his whole career.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Well, yeah. He was this quote. He was the favorite. He was the favorite to become UFC champion. And then within like two years, he was on a seven-fight knockout losing streak. It's fucking insane. It actually might be the biggest, like, fall from grace or collapse or however you want to phrase it, like the biggest decline that has ever happened in the sport.
Starting point is 00:28:46 It's insane. Regardless, everything that we just said, Terry Brunson ain't getting a bum here in Ray Cooper. Derry Brunson is not getting a bum here in old Ray Cooper the third. Two-time PFL champion? Is that right? So here's what I will say. Brunson is going to be much larger than Ray Cooper.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And there is a world where he just wrestles. And we just see Derek Brunson win a 15-minute decision. On the flip side of that, how motivated is Derek Brunson? Like, what's the end goal here? Is this a rejuvenation? Or is this just like, man, PFL is throwing the check? the bag at me and I'm getting paid to show up and, you know, he's obviously going to try and compete, but, man, Ray Cooper cracks. Ray Cooper cracks. Derek Brunson now has seven losses coming by way
Starting point is 00:29:39 of knockout. I say all that to tell you I'm on Ray Cooper. Oh, baby. Oh, oh, oh, no, we're not. Sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm a stuck that. I'm going to pull this out of the audio. You said you're on Ray Cooper. You should leave it in. You should leave it in. I'm going to definitely not. leave this in. That was terrible. I, in my head, the way you were phrasing, I was like, oh, he's going to be on Derek Brunson, because I'm on Derek Brunson. You thought me going through the history of how terribly UFC fighters have performed. Yeah, because you said, you were like, I said all that to then say this. And I was like, oh, this is where he swerves it. I actually don't hate the Brunson bet. Ray Cooper hasn't fallen over a year and he's a welterweight. I won't be shocked if he
Starting point is 00:30:23 just like cracks Derek Brunson and falls over or if Derek Brunson gets takedown, gasses himself out and then gets punched and falls over. But I think he's just going to be way bigger than Ray Cooper and Ray Cooper hasn't fought in a long time. So at plus 190, yeah, I'll take a shot on Derek Brunson at those odds. To us the night before the gathering and all through the house, the host rapid cozy cashmere throw from Homense for their spouse, kids toys for $6.99 under the tree and crystal glasses for just 1499 for their brother Lee, a baking dish made in Portugal for Tom and Sue,
Starting point is 00:30:58 and a nice $599 candle, perfectly priced just for you. Happy holidays to all, and to all a good price. Homeless presents perfectly priced. All right, we keep it rolling. I love how much dissension we have. This is going to be fantastic.
Starting point is 00:31:16 This is what happens when you shoot from the hip. How many dog bets you got? That is my second, Sorry, my third dog bet, and we may have one still to come. Let's keep it rolling to my first dog bet, featherweight title. First dog bet, second vibes bet. That is our man, Jesus Panetto. Let me just set the scene for you.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Jesus Panetto coming into this one, I mean, a relative unknown, you know. I know he's got a great record, 22 wins in professional mixed martial arts at this point, 20 entering this season. But I mean, a relative unknown. comes in faces Gabriel Braga loses by split decision. The season is not off to a good start. And now he fights a man by the name of Brendan Lochnang, defending champion, man who was on an unbelievable run. He seems borderline unbeatable, plus 375 underdog. And guess what he does? He goes out there and he knocks him out in the very first round. He couldn't possibly do it again, right, Jesus Panetto, there's no way.
Starting point is 00:32:26 He takes on Bubba Jenkins, the runner-up from last year's PFL World Championships. Again, disrespected by the books, plus 300, knocks them out in the second round, punch his ticket to the PFL championships in Washington, D.C., and a shot at a million smackers. And guess who he takes on? Who could be? Man that he started the season with Gabriel Alves Braga. You think he doesn't remember that split decision?
Starting point is 00:32:55 You think he doesn't remember everything that Gabriel Alves Braga took from him? You think he's going to let him take a million dollars off the table? I think not. Jesus Panato, the Peruvian champion, gets crowned on Black Friday. I mean, you've painted us a great word picture. I wanted to bet Braga, but this fight's probably a coin flip. So why would I bet Braga at minus 120 or whatever he's at? if it's a coin flip doesn't seem smart.
Starting point is 00:33:25 So it would be dope. Panato has been very impressive since that loss. So I could see it. I could see it. Yeah. It's going to be fun to cheer him on. I mean, you know, I could easily start this card with like multiple losses and just have to try and dig my way out of a hole.
Starting point is 00:33:45 You got anything on Bubba Jenkins and Chris Wade? Sure do. Who? Bubba Jenkins? Absolutely not. I'll be backing Chris Wade. Chris Wade is an underdog. Kind of these two men have fought.
Starting point is 00:33:58 They actually fought twice. Sure, this is the trilogy. This is the trilogy we've all been waiting for. Bubba Jenkins won that first one. Chris Wade was upset. Thought that didn't give a great showing. They fought. They fought in an event this year.
Starting point is 00:34:11 PFL won in April. And Chris Wade won pretty handily. No, no, no, no. Vice versa. But, boy, Bubba Jenkins won the one. in April? Yeah, Chris Wade won the first one, Bubba Jenkins, the one this year. Well, then whatever. I'm just going Chris Wade anyway. This is what happens when you're Wikipedia betting instead of like looking at things.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Damn right. We're wiki-capping out here, baby. Just like, just stone guessing. Yeah, I'm still thinking Chris Wade. I don't know. They've split them. It's fine. Who cares? The bet's already in, so I can't unbet it. Please step bet. Before even double checking, that I absolutely love that. I'm going to stay away just because they've split them. It's probably going to go to a decision. It's probably going to be close. What's the over? Like over this
Starting point is 00:35:02 and a couple of the unders is probably a really nice parlay. Yeah, it's minus 260 on the over two and a half. Yeah, take that and then just like mix it in with the under you know? Oh, mama.
Starting point is 00:35:15 In the Casson, in the Impa, Josh. Props just dropped on the Biajio Ali amateur fight on betting amy's over here. Biajio Ali Walsh by Kio, minus 150. I'm going to go ahead and smack that real quick. Yeah, I mean, he's fighting Joel Lopez.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Shout out to Joel, but like this is, the PFL essentially is like a feeder program for Biaggio Ali Walsh. They love that and Ali is fighting in their promotion. Keeps staying as an amateur for whatever reason. Every single time he fights, I'm like, all right, sick. Finally, Ali Walsh is going to fight a real fight. I almost, I almost bet the under one and a half. And I was like, man, you want to know the math here? I was like, man, every one of his fights has ended under one and a half. And the guy that he's fighting, all three of his fights have also ended under one and a half. I'm like, this is minus 180. Of course I'm going to play it. That's crazy. God, it's an amateur three by three. So three minute rounds. So the under one and a half would
Starting point is 00:36:28 actually be a minute 30 into the second round. Instead of nine for nine under the one and a half, that changes things up a lot. That actually makes it five of nine under the one and a half. I mean, that's a huge difference. It's a huge difference. It's a large difference. That's true. But yeah, the L. G. Oliwashed by K.O. 150 just played that live on the air. Five wins all by way of knockout. He's minus 700. Why is K-O. only minus 150? Because it's nine minutes.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Maybe he just hangs real tough, you know. Could be. And we fights. But I mean, I'm looking to lose as much. I like the energy. Looking to lose as much money as possible on this card. Is this? Are you going to lose any more money, or do you have any action on any of the other two fights?
Starting point is 00:37:17 I have one more. I can't believe this. I'm so proud of you. A guy that I just heard of this. week, I'm laying minus 220 chalk on. Do you get any more plus EV than that? I don't think so. Phil Caracapa?
Starting point is 00:37:32 Oh, yeah. Yeah, minus 220. Let's go ahead and put that one in. Go ahead. Call up the bookie. We're going to need to put that one in. Thanks. Taking on Kai Wu.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I did go back in that. Coming off a loss. Coming off a loss. But you know what Kai Wu does? This is wiki capping at its finest. He doesn't beat guys that are over 500. Love that. One in four in his career against guys that are over 500, the one win coming last time out against Kimbert Alintozan at Enter the Dragon 09, which was a split decision victory for him.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Phil, by the way, is not great, but he does fight decent competition. last four wins coming by by guys over 500 he's also fought on Contender Series lost the split decision to Ricky Steele yeah I mean this is one that like if it if it loses it could be one of the most embarrassing bets of my career
Starting point is 00:38:38 if it hits it's just like that's what you get for doing the research you get winners for doing the digging for doing the research shouts to Kai Wu though who in his topology photo is wearing your shirt that says, do you even train and like old school headphones with the cord as he's punching mitts in what appears to be a rocky mountain landscape?
Starting point is 00:39:02 Shout out to Kai Wu. Shout out to Kai Wu wins. Shout out to Kai Wu. But I don't know if he can handle the bright lights of Washington, D.C. Give me something here that like Phil is from. Oh, Phil's a Jersey guy? It's just that easy. It's just that easy.
Starting point is 00:39:18 His name's Phil Carin Kappa, of course. He's a jersey guy. This man was born Jersey. That's all I needed to see. That's all I needed to see. He's fighting out of Jayzy? Come on, good. I'll be at a New Jersey devil's game on Black Friday.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I mean, it's only right. Look at Phil's photo. Look at the people behind him in his topology photo and tell me that Phil isn't a small-time enforcer. Yes. This looks like an episode of The Sopranos and he was supposed to become the boxing world champion, but it failed out. And now he's just an enforcer for Tony. Yeah. That's Tony's, oh, that's Tony's nephew who's supposed to be there now.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Here, look at him. This is exactly who he is. Most Jersey man's ever been. Shout out. Yeah. So, I mean, if I lose money on that, you know, I'll be wearing a New Jersey Devil's hat at the time that that fight takes place. So I will be supporting.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I have nothing on Jesse Stern and Josh Blyden. Do you? No, and that means we're done. All right. So, like, I already had, like, eight bets. Added. What did I add? Biajio Ali Walsh by Kio, Kayla Harrison by submission,
Starting point is 00:40:23 and Larissa Bacheco by Knockout all on the air. And that's that. I have way too much action. I have nine bets, so I'm right there with you. It's going to be a fun one. I'm going to have 11 singles and two parlayes. It is going to be a fun one. I can't wait for it Friday.
Starting point is 00:40:42 We'll be back next week. UFC Austin. Very good card. Very good card. Very good city. The arena is going to be on Friday. fire excited for that one but uh until then enjoy one of the best days of the year pfl world championships black friday see ya next week happy thanksgiving that's a you love you love y'all
Starting point is 00:41:04 that's a great point happy thanksgiving everyone you're listening to the vox media podcast network

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