MMA Fighting - On To the Next One | Matches To Make After UFC 275

Episode Date: June 12, 2022

Where do Jiri Prochazka and Glover Teixeira go following their epic battle in the main event of Saturday's UFC 275 event Singapore? What about Valentina Shevchenko and Taila Santos following their super competitive UFC flyweight title fight, along with Zhang Weili after viciously knocking out Joanna Jedrzejczyk in the featured bout? MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee attempt to answer those questions from a matchmaking perspective on a brand new episode of On To the Next One. Future matchups are also discussed for Jake Matthews following his finish of Andre Fialho, Jack Della Maddalena after his breakout TKO win over Ramazan Emeev, discuss the career of Jedrzejczyk following her retirement announcement, and more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It said we were live here on our little screen here. But then we looked on our YouTube page and literally nothing was happening. Nothing was happening. But as you can see, we are live and we welcome you to a very special edition of On to the next one. This week, as you can see, we are in video form following UF.S. RFC 275 in Singapore last night. And a lot of you are here as returning listeners and viewers. Some of you may be joining us for the very first time.

So if you are new to the show, we're going to be doing some matchmaking. Following last night's pay-per-view card, I am Mike Eck. And joining me as always, the co-host, the co-matchmaker, the Prince of Positivity. And gosh darn it, he's my best friend, Alexander Cayley. Hello, sir. That last title, the only one that means my best friend. That is all I could lose everything else.

As long as I'm your best friend, that's what's going to get me through the day. I'm doing great, man. That card, again, I told you I think I missed the pre-lens, but that main card was a card and a half. I mean, really, if you're like me and you only caught the main card, you are satisfied. You are full. I mean, I know there was some nice highlights,

a couple of crazy knockouts on the prelums, but that main card was just ripe with drama and storylines and great performances and controversy. And yes, the mixing of the martial arts, everything that we want to see on a high level MMA card. So it was great. I just want to say ahead of time, first of all, thank you everyone for tuning in.

And for any of our regulars who normally send in picks, guys, who send in picks ahead of time, guys, we tell you, we're doing a live, on the live show, we're probably not going to get around to reading a lot of, a lot of the listener picks. Mostly we'll be attending to ones in the comments. That's sort of the point of doing a live show. Of course, we welcome you guys sending in picks. Just be aware. Picks, questions, comments, stuff that you want to see read that you send me in the DMs.

Probably aren't going to be addressed right now. But I will, as always, try to reply directly. So instead of an on-air shout-out, you may get a direct response for me, which is just as good, if not better, I feel. I agree. It's very personal. And I'm probably not going to do that. But I appreciate you doing it.

But now, normally this isn't podcast form. We, like you said, we read the listener submissions. Yeah, but we're going to throw them up here. We'll get to as many of these suggestions here as we can. Some of these are really easy in my eyes. Others are not. But I am amped, AK, because we were treated to one of the greatest fights ever in the main event. No one saw this coming.

They thought it was going to be one way traffic for one guy over the other. And throughout the history of the sport, our fanmanship. We've had technical masterpieces. As you allude to all time, we've had mixing of the martial arts in competitive form, skill for skill examples that were far better than this from a technical standpoint. But this is fighting, AK. This is a freaking fight. This was Roddy Piper and they live kind of stuff. This is, even though the movie sucks as a whole, this was Rocky Balboa versus Tommy Gunn in the mean streets of Films. Philadelphia kind of stuff. Just an all-out battle, an incredible roller coaster ride. And in the end,

Glover Tashara, the 42-year-old man that a lot of people felt that was going to get run over by the chaotic Uri Prahashka, less than 30 seconds away from probably retaining his title and out of nowhere, Uri Phrashka submits him with the rear naked choke. Incredible fight. One of the best title fights ever. One of the best made events ever. And the reign of Yuri Prahashka has begun, AK. So my question to you is, are we just running this one right back? We're just running this one right back, right? Or do you have another idea?

That would be my number one choice. I do, you know, as far as immediate rematches go, usually not in favor, but hard to go wrong with this one. Even though, even though I doubt a rematch would be able to match the excitement. I think a rematch would actually end in an earlier finish. I don't know what was in the waters tonight. Again, both guys we know are tough as hell. So maybe their first meeting was always destined to go, you know, almost a full five rounds. But to ask them to do that again, man, that's unlikely.

But we certainly should at least get the chance to see if it's possible. I'll throw out a couple of other options just in case they decide not to do Prasca to share a two right away. I'm still in favor. You know, we're all aboard the Mega. met on Goliath train. I know there's no rush because we all think he's getting a title shot eventually. He does have to fight Anthony Smith, UFC 277. But should he win that fight, I'm fine with him getting that title fight. To Chera, who knows, maybe wants to take some time off. I know he said he wanted to fight twice before the end of the year, but I think that was working

under the assumption that he beat you and didn't take quite as much damage. So it could be, he could turn around in three months. It could be 20, 23 until we see it over again. So just in case you have a challenger right there in Angola. And for Tashira, again, should, let's say, for some reason for Hachka's not ready, or they just don't want to book the rematch, I'd like to see him fight Dominic Reyes. We keep trying to find the right sort of comeback fight for Dominic Reyes. And obviously, that's an extremely difficult one. That could be four straight losses for Dominic Reyes, but I'm also sure he wants to come back to a big fight. So that's about as big as you can get without a title shot.

So I'd like to see that fight. I think that's possible. But I would definitely put that way, way behind my interest. and just running this one back. Yeah, we're running this one back, my best friend. Normally, like you were saying, I might advocate for some kind of a plan B, but this just isn't the kind of storyline

you can stick in your back pocket for a couple of years. This is in Connor Nate. This just isn't that. Like, you can't just pull it out whenever you want and you're like, eh, this is a rematch we can do any time. No, because the clock is ticking here on the great career of the 42-year-old Glover Tashara, and quite frankly, who knows how long Yuri can keep fighting like such a madman.

But who knows? This guy is something else. Maybe he can go on like another decade. Maybe he is just like the chaotic Tom Brady of MMA. It is Yuri Phrashka after all. But listen, unless Magamene Ankaa dump trucks Anthony Smith on July 30th. And I mean just runs him over, flatlines him, finishes him in just epic fashion. and it's just one of those performances you can't ignore,

the winner of that fight should just get Janbovich. Like, it could be a fight night made event. You could do that in Abu Dhabi on the main card of UFC 280, whenever the hell it is. And it's a surefire number one contender fight because guess what? There's no number one contender right now. Yombovich is trying and God bless him, he should. But he didn't go out there and just run over Alexander Rockich.

He, Rockich took a step back and hurt his, knee. And it was a 19-19 fight before that happened. And then Ankleyev, yeah, he's at a nice streak, but the Tiago Santos win didn't give us a lot to talk about. We weren't hankering for him to fight for the belt. So he's just got a dump truck, Anthony Smith. That's his best chance. Otherwise, he fights down. But I'll which is still a very, you know, a very good, good fight. But I get, and I also get this side of the equation, like it's, we feel for these guys after a are like that. But again, if we're ever going to see it again, we have to see it next or we're just not going to see it again. We are, no, listen, these people, these, these men exist for our amusement.

They dance. We say dance and they dance for us and they dance the, the dance of death. And then that is that. And then we, and then we discard them. We discard them and good luck in retirement. That is how these things work. All right. I don't want to hear this bleeding heart. Oh, what if they got hurt so much in the first fight? Like, what are we doing here? This is combat sports. These people mean nothing to me. I mean nothing. Clip that. I'll send that to New York, Rick, later. Clip that.

These people mean nothing to me. No, I, listen, I'm a big time story boy. So like you said, Mike, we see that angle of it. But I will say, though, my thing with Blahovitz is, though, is Blakovich, excuse me, is that I had previously said I want him to fight Anthony Smith because I expect Anthony Smith to lose to Ankeliov. So I'm kind of having to stick with my ought no power. path for now. Obviously, so much can change, especially after the way this fight went,

you know, whatever the matchplaces might have been thinking, this is going to give them some new options. But yes, my assumption is that Ancolaev will beat Anthony Smith, so then I want to see Anthony Smith's fight Jan Blakovich. And then, again, we could get the street match or the alternate scenarios that I sort of just suggested might play out. Yeah, Glover, of course, classy is ever in defeat. I think this can be one of those fights where, and he's a pretty positive guy, came out just smiling. Like who comes out and smiles before they fight Yuri Perashka? He sure did.

He was calm, cool, and collected and wants to do it again. So he basically calls out Yuri once to fight him, spends over 24 minutes with him in the Octagon, just an all-time war. And then he says, you know what? Let's do it again. Let's do it again. How can you not love this? But we'll see what happens.

205 is, it's pretty interesting right now. It really is. but we'll see what happens on July 30th. Maybe Angolaev can make a statement and who knows when these guys are going to be able to return. So I know this seems kind of lazy, AK, but co-made event, we expected have two separate matchups here because I think we all felt that Valentina Shepchenko

would do Valentina Shepcheco type things. But Taila Santo showed up to Singapore and said, I'm not having it. She made things very competitive. She gave Valentina Shofchenko and a lot of betters, a big, big scare. But in the end, Shevchenko wins a split decision.

I scored it 48, 47 for Chevy. No problem with it. I gave it rounds two, rounds four, and round five. One judge gave Shevchenko four rounds, which, by the way, I've seen a lot of complaints about this on social media. 4946 is not a great card,

but it's not egregious either. I went back and watched the fight this morning. There is a case for Valentina winning that first round. It's not a great one, but a good lawyer can argue that Beltona won that first round. We've seen way worse scorecards. That 4946 was probably like the fifth worst scorecard of the night. 3027, Jocelyn Edwards was a pretty awful scorecard, way worse than this one for being honest. And then there's another fight as well.

I think the cool of the whatever, the fight Josh Cool about one, one judge Goet scoring it on the Kionho Kang, scoring it on the other side. Choi, Choi. Joy, excuse me, excuse me, was just ridiculous. That's a terrible scorecard. This was not a, this is a bad scorecard, but it's not a terrible score for card. But either way, close fight, a lot of discussion about it. There's a lot of ways you can go with Valentina right now, which we haven't been able to say that in a while.

Misha Tate B, T, B, Thor, Murphy, you got something there. If she doesn't, you could go to 35, but to me, we just run this some bitch back, Shepchenko Santos, too. Nothing else makes any sense to me at all, my best friend. I think you got to run this back. The clash of heads is crazy. That was the turning point in the fight. I have so many questions coming out of it.

I just want to see these two fight again. Yeah, yeah. I'm all for that. Again, I have some other alternatives just for the sake of the show. Mike, as the great, I'm going to hate myself. I think it was Mike Brophy, I believe. No, it wasn't Mike Brophy? Anyway, I'm sorry, one of my professors at Centennial College,

who was a producer for Hockey Night in Canada, always said the six P's Mike proper preparation prevents piss poor performance and that is why I have these alternative picks and I will and I will pardon my language everyone and I will get to those in a second it wasn't Mike Brophy who am I'm going to hate myself I'll remember I'll look it up later but firstly I want to say I just I don't want to hear I'm going to say this every show I know it's a broken record just people just need to until unless I know that you have read the scoring criteria and you understand it I don't give two Fs about your opinion of whether you thought a fight was a robbery or not.

And believe me, I can tell the difference. There are people who I'm sure will leave comments say, oh, I've read the criteria. And it's like, I can tell within seconds if someone has read the scoring criteria and if they have understood it. Because I will tell you right now, four to five MMA fans have not. I don't mind people saying like, oh, well, I feel this person won the fight because. But when they criticize the judging, that's another story. Because the judges work with the set criteria, which again, does not.

And the criteria does not necessarily jive with what people think, you know, scoring a fight should look like. And that's okay. Like I agree sometimes. I think grappling is, I think grappling is almost kind of not getting enough credit now. I think, you know, they changed in 2017 that big emphasis on damage, right? Everything is emphasis on damage. So I do feel like takedowns, control and things like that are almost getting diminished a little too much. and that's frustrating for fans.

But the fact is, per the rules, damage is the first thing that matters. So I certainly scored the first round for Teles Santos, but apparently those little shoulder punches, you know, the Shepchenko being on the ground throwing punches over her shoulder, little, again, uncomfortable, but not really damaging punches, punches that weren't even registered as significant strikes in the statistics was enough to win her the round on one card. Again, and I don't hate it. I just don't necessarily agree with it. Anyway, people read the criteria.

This will be another fight. I'm sure people are talking about it for some time. So my alternative picks for, don't mean that much explanation. Shevchenko, if they want to just give her a fresh challenger at 125, the Araujo Alexa Grasso winner, August 13th. I think it's too soon for either of them. But again, this is just if Shevchenko wants to stay busy. And for some reason, they don't want to book the Talas Santos rematch.

For Talas Santos, then instead she would get the Lauren Murphy, Misha Tate winner. More likely Lauren Murphy, if Lauren Murphy, one she would get Talasanto's because she wouldn't get a teleth shot again. Amisha Tate wins. She probably moves into one of those pole positions for, can you have multiple pole positions? Anyway, she probably becomes one of the favorites to potentially fight Shepchenko. So that's really more Lauren Murphy thing, Lauren Murphy, Talasantos. But those are just options.

I'm with you, Mike. Magic wand pick. Run it back. Let's see how it goes. Yes. Run it back. But, I mean, Amisha Tate goes out. It beats Lauren Murphy.

You know the UFC's just got to go ahead and make that fight. They're just going to make it. You could actually that could actually main event a card because Misha's a star and Valentina is getting there, if you will. So that's not a fight that's just an automatic co-made event. You could headline a pay-per-view with that card. Is it going to do a million pay-per-views? Probably not, but it's something that will get people interested and people watch that fight. Most M.M.A. fans, especially the old school ones, they all know who Mish Tate is.

They're just getting to know Valentina. Love the fight. I mean, it's just, I don't love the fight, but it's a fight that I think that the UFC will make and we'll jump the queue with that one if possible. So let's see what happens. But yeah, I would rather see them just run this one back. There's too many questions here. And the way Tiles Santos competed, the accidental clash of heads, I think we just need to see more of it. So let's just see what happens.

I feel like Valentina will make some adjustments. I would still pick Valentina to win. But Tiles Santos' stock rose tremendously. and defeat and now she's going to be out for a little while anyways. So maybe it won't happen because she got the broken orbital, but I don't know how long she's going to be out for. And who knows, Valentina is even though she says,

I want to fight two more times this year, she's not really the most active fighter of all time either. So we'll see. We'll see how it goes. I told people tell it to be tough. I told, I will repeat this from the mountaintop so much as I need to. I was telling everyone,

Tyler Santos to be a tough matchup, the toughest matchup of Valentina Shof Chinko's career. So I was vindicated. Yes, that was a pretty spot-on breakdown, that's for sure. Now, before we get into what Zhang Wei Li did last night, tip of the proverbial cap to Yuan Yajek, who announced her retirement following the conclusion of that pretty gnarly knockout loss to Zhang Wei Li. What a fight. Round six was incredible.

One of Zhang's all-time best performances. I mean, she just ran over Yohani and J-Jek in the end, and Yanna was game as hell, but Yonah said this is it. I'm done. I'm 35, 36 years old. I want to start a family. I want to start a business. Maybe she wants to jump into the managerial side of the sport,

but she's not going anywhere. She's going to be attached to MMA. And, but her fighting career is over. Yonah says she's done, A.K., your thoughts on just a tremendous career from Yawanna champion. Yeah, let's just do our happy trails now, right? Because I always say we should save it for the end of the show and then we forget. So this is, guys, we will finally be doing our happy trails and remembering. We've forgotten for several fighters who kind of, some of the more low-key retirements.

This one again happened right in the moment. You could almost feel it coming, I think as soon as, you know, as soon as she got knocked out and once the excitement of the moment kind of passed. And we all kind of took a breath in mind and said, wow, holy crap. Like she just lost like really badly in her first fight and over 800 days. immediately, I'm sure most people were thinking that that could be the end. You know, that, that very logically is the last time we've seen her fight. And sure enough, they gave her the mic after. They gave her her her time.

And she said she's done. And it, listen, she's, I mean, Pioneer is such a cliche and the goat is such a cliche. But, I mean, she is all those things. She really did help build up the 115 pound division, which I think most people would agree is probably the strongest, most interesting women's division in the UFC right now. I like flyweight a lot, but again, you know, with Valentina on top and dominating so much, her contenders usually don't get enough credit. Valentina was also dominant, but sort of in a different way, you know, and her opponents,

I don't know if they were better marketed or they're just taking more seriously the threats, but like Jessica Andrash, Claudio was a good rival for her. the way she destroyed Carla S. Bars in that first fight, in defeat, the war was Zhang Wei Li. She went five rounds of Valentina. That fight wasn't super competitive. There's just so many memorable moments winning or losing. And she had such a distinct style. She was arguably the mistress of Death by a Thousand Cuts. She's not going to go out there and start someone with a flying knee or with a one-punch KO. But you just knew you're going to get this high quality, super fun to watch, striking performance. And a great demeanor about her, you know.

Some of her trash talk here and there, a little questionable. Some of her maybe post by comments, kind of, you know, whatever excuses for losses and bad weight cuts. I know people don't agree with that. But overall, as far as combat sports stars go, I mean, this is what you want. You want this person who carries himself without confidence who is willing to fight anyone who, you know, who just, you know, they always show those gifts of like, of a silhouette of someone. Could you guess who this fighter is? She's, I think, one of those fighters, for sure. If you just showed a silhouette of 10 seconds of her stand-up or something, you'd be like, that's your

want to, you out-chache-you-and-so. And so what regards, you know, her personality, her fighting style, whichever it is that jumped out at you the most, she won't be forgotten for a long time. And I think, I think there's, even though with her two losses to Zhang and her two losses to Rose, there's still a lot of people that are going to look her body of work and say that she is, she still has the best resume at 115 pounds. She has not been knocked off that perch definitively quite yet. And considering how long has been since she lost five, that's, that's, that's,

pretty down impressive. Completely agree. What a career she had. One of the best at the ceremonial way in stair downs. She was tremendous at that. That was an all-time drubbing of Carla Sparza when she won the belt.

You actually felt bad for Carla in that situation. Like you realize the risk of these fighters take, but I mean, she just ran over Carla and it took a while for Carla to come back, which actually makes Carla getting back to the title really impressive. I know we sort of discard the win over Rose. It wasn't a great fight.

But, I mean, a lot of fighters don't come back from a beatdown like that. And Yonah did. Just think about what Jessica And Raj has done over the last few years. And even before she fought Yonah. But Yonah just, I mean, showcased performance. She styled on just gun drudge. How many fighters have been able to say that they went out there and just styled on Jessica Andrade?

You might get a quick finish and like a crazy. You know, Zhang Wei had a quick finish, but I mean, Yowna was just like, watch me, watch me, watch me. She was like Steph Currying out there. And I hate saying that name and I hate using that. Oh, wow. But that's, but that's, I mean, that's what she did to Jessica Androdge. So tremendous fighter.

And I actually agree with a Jetson on the post-fight show. She'd be a good manager, sure. But I almost, I almost want to see the UFC just be like, what do we need to do to keep you around, do something with her. You can use her in multiple facets. She could be an ambassador for the brand. She can, like, I thought Dave Shaw did a nice job with the press conference. But imagine you want to Jacek is like the one stepping in for Dana White if you can't come to a card.

And Juana's out there answering questions. That'd be super cool. So I'm glad she's sticking around. She's going to stay around in the sport. And happy trails to one of the all-time greats, Yane and J-check. So there we go. Yeah, we talk about people being like one of a kind. I mean, she fits out.

Again, I've told another cliche out there. She certainly fits that description. And let me just say, gosh, before I forget, the producer that was not before, one of my influences, someone who taught me a lot, Mark Askin. Shout us to Mark Askin, who was an amazing television producer or is. I'm not sure. I think he's still with Hockenand Canada. Anyway, brilliant mine.

Six P's, proper preparation prevents PIS for performance. Remember that. Tell that to your kids. You can just make it the five P's and take the PIS out if you want. But it makes it a little more punchy and more memorable, I feel. Yes, JJ from the hood. I love that. The brusco.

Yeah, I was like, okay. Yeah, it's just like her spin on Jenny from the block. I was going to say Joanna from the block. All right. Can we ban Nick? Can we ban them? No, stop it. Listen, this series is going seven.

I'm rooting for the Warriors, but this is going seven. They're just so evenly matched. Now, let's talk about Zhang Wei, A.K. Yeah. Spitting back fist was ridiculous. We've seen Yuanah lose and get finished before, but we've never seen her just colded like that. That was bad, bad.

And we know where this is going to lead to. I mean, again, this is not one of those ones where we had to think very deep about it. This is, it's just there. She's going to fight Carlos Sparza for the belt next. Even if there was a discussion point, well, Jung needs to do this or this person gets a title shot, Zhang needs to do nothing more.

She gets a title shot. She might be the best 100. This version that we saw last night might be the best straw weight in the world. She's going to fight Carla next. And boy, we knew her next title fight wasn't going to be easy, but this just feels like a nightmare matchup for the new champion. Does it not? Man, Zhang couldn't just lose that fight and not completely break our rankings.

Our rankings are screwed. They're screwed. After this whole card, dude. The math, it's like, this was like, again, you know, I'm not going to use the MAM math calculator, but it's like if you put in like an illogical equation in a calculator and you get just that big fat E, you know, just error, just like the cannot compute.

How do we even do the math here? All four, you know, names at the top have fought each other, including Yohanna. I am now retired, but would have been ranked in the top four if we're including her, have fought each other, you know, have beaten each other, have rematched each other. It is so confusing. I'll tell people ahead of time, I'm pretty sure I just keep Carla at the top until the fight with Zhang has made. I'm going to save myself the headache.

People could put Zhang at the top. People could keep Rose Nomibunus at the top. People could be Jessica Andra out of the top. Excuse me. So five names. Five names in the mix there. Complete chaos. But yeah, Zhang was just spectacular.

And I mean, you love when someone is, she was way ahead in the fight for sure. I mean, Yonzo was competitive. But boy, she just was not, and you clearly a step behind Zhang on Saturday night. And for her to cap it off, like, that's a, I know I'm ahead. and I could probably win a decision. It's only a three-round fight this time. But I'm feeling real good. I'm really feeling myself.

When you throw a strike like that, that ends up like that. And hey, look, and that's what turns it from a memorable, great performance into like an all-time great finish because that replay will be shown over and over and over and over and over again.

Everything about it was spectacular. What do we do with Zhang? Yeah, I guess it's just Carlos Barser, right? There's no. Mike, you and I joked. I think we can tell people we joked on on Slack. I was saying if she has any sort of

nagging injuries, maybe take a surgery. Maybe take a surgery that's going to require you to be out for you know, getting surgery, you're going to be out for like six months. Maybe force Zhang to take another fight and just buy yourself some time. I'm sure that's not how Carla as far as I think. I'm sure Carla as far as I'm like, I can beat

Zhang Wili. I'm not afraid. But she should be a little worried. And Mike, you said she should just consider renewing her wedding vows, you know. That was a private joke, AKA. You're a married, man. It's never, it's normal to renew your vows like three months after, right? Why not?

It's never too early. It's never too early. It's never too early. So, and she already kind of, I feel like, put off her actual wedding, you know, to accommodate the UFC. So they should do her a favor, let her renew her vows sometime this fall. And it's just push that fight back. I don't know.

But the fight probably happens. And as a lot of us have said, and man, and Zhang's going to be a massive favorite, fair or not. But don't count out the champ. You never count out the champs, right? I mean, anything can happen. Anything can happen. She's a great wrestler.

I mean, Glover Tashara lost to Yuri Perashka. That tells you anything can happen. Especially though, how confident I was, but I'm not going to go back and done that well. We were so close. We were so. Every single round, except the third. I was like, I was so close to be in race. Fans know how good.

Like, I'm one of the least people to, like, have a hot take and like and like really sit on i'm people i'm a i'm a fence sitter i'm a i'm a i'm a take jumper i'm just i change my mind of that so but most fans aren't like me they'll they'll like have a take and they'll hang on to it and that was kind of how i was and you were as well with glover it's like man and they so most fans on like me know how good it feels when you have a take and you've had a take for like six months nine months a year and it's it's justified oh you feel like you're the smartest you're smartest in the world and our take was still justified Mike, but we don't quite get that

satisfaction that we almost did. When Glover took Yuri down in the first round, I was like, yes. It's over. It's all done. And then he got up and I'm like, oh, God, he's going to get knocked out. And then Glover survived and I'm like, I'm just waiting for the

worst to happen. And then it looks like the worst is going to happen in the second round. And then Glover turned the tide and actually won the second round, which is insane. Oh, the fight was so freaking good. I'm going to go back and watch it again. You went through, I think Glover has this. Oh, no, here comes Yuri at least eight different times during that fight.

Oh, probably more. It's like once or twice every single round. It was absolutely nuts. Now, with the comments here, one of the more popular names that we heard, and rightfully so after this performance, is one Jake Matthews. The best he has ever looked last night, runs over Andre Fialo. And by the way, if you listen to No Betts Bard with myself and Jedmishu, I told you that Jake Matthews is super live and to go.

and just get after it. Put that coin on Jake Matthews, the underdog. Definitely didn't see this thing coming and this performance coming. But Jake Matthews had Andre Fialo, with all the hype behind him, on skates for pretty much the entire fight, puts it away in the second, sensational performance, cashed a fake dog ticket for me, a real dog ticket for Jed, aka, where are we going with Jake Matthews after this incredible performance? Man, a pre-fight, I said, I need to see the dog and Jake

Matthews. We saw a friggin Rottweiler on Saturday. That was insane. I feel at least better people having hearing a lot of people say, Shehann was one of them. That was not Jake Matthews. That was not the Jake Matthews that we, the warm and fuzzy Jake Matthews that we know and love. That was not him. That was a savage. That was a, that was not a mixed martial arts combat sports athlete. That was a fighter. Capital F, capitalize all the letters, fighter. It was amazing. He wasn't settling for anything less than a finish. He wasn't shying away from a super aggressive, Andre Fialio, he said, bring it on, got the better of him on almost every exchange and just looked amazing. So, yeah, good for him. He's only 27, 28 years old. Maybe this is his prime. Maybe this is,

Scott McCraight parading as Cad Bain's revenge. Man, change your name back. Maybe this is Jake Matthews 2.0, and this will be a turning point. Because you've seen a lot of them in the UFC, but maybe everything was just preamble to this. So I want to see him get a super stiff test. Again, And he is technically U.S.U.C. veteran. So it's not like he's anyone that needs protection. Let's get him in there with a guy with a similar record, a super exciting fighting style, and someone who also always feels like he's on the cusp of the top 20, top 15.

He had to pull out of a fight recently. So hopefully everything's all right. But Elisuzaleski, Alexu Zaleski, Jake Matthews. Let's make it happen. I don't think they've fought before, right? Sorry, guys, I normally check the stuff way ahead of time. But we've been, they have not. I don't think they've been booked against his show.

other, which is surprising. Because their careers are pretty lined up with their time of the O'C. So, yeah, give him Elizabeth Zaleski, awesome fight. And whoever wins, I think maybe he's in the top 15. Some people might have them in there already, but certainly a much stronger case. Yeah, I think this is probably the toughest one because, I mean, it's tough, but it's really not. Because you could give him a rank guy and no one would be upset about that. Or you'd give him like a top of 25 guy and no one would be upset about that.

We don't want to go backwards. I saw someone say Miguel Baez. I think that's way too far backwards. And plus there's another wealth to wait on this card that we're going to talk about that is, you know, making moves himself. So I landed on Alex Baroto, AK. Alex Marono would probably want to take a flight to Paris. I would be shocked if they don't throw Jake Matthews on this Paris card.

I'd be shocked if they didn't throw all the Australians on that Paris card because they all seem to want to fight in September. in Paris. So yeah, you can't, I mean, no one's going to complain about Jake Matthews versus Alex Marono. You have two guys that are pretty much in a similar spot, try to break into the top 15. And if Alex is ready to go and he's ready to go relatively soon, let's go. And by the way, thank you, Jake Matthews for saving us from the onto the next one, reign of terror of Andre Fialio, because we, we love the guy. I love watching him, but we were like, do we ban him from the show? His whole thing is he wants to fight like once every like six weeks so we can't even match make for him and by the way

i will tell me well depending on his medical condition after the fight it was pretty tough he probably is still planning to fight again like two times for the end of the year if anything he might be more eager to fight again to rebound from the sloth so don't think i mean it's entirely possible maybe jacques punch some sense into him and he's like okay maybe i'll just maybe i'm going to chill first of the year but it's also possible he just goes i hey i want to be in paris too i'm fine i'm fine i'm I got knocked around a little bit, but no, no broken bones, no torn muscles. Put me on that Paris card. So you could see Andrefielio again.

The guy is really unpredictable. Yeah, there's, I mean, there's a lot of options. The D-Rod one was an interesting one. I like D-Rod Randy Brown. That was kind of the direction I was going with that one. But, I mean, again, he put himself at a very good spot. Welchewate is one of those divisions where you got to make moves and you got to get some height to try to get a ranking spot because it's not easy.

Ask Sean Brady, how tough it is. to climb those rankings once you get into the top 15. But we mentioned another welterweight who made a strong move. That man is Jack Della Madalena, AKA. He is officially legit, fought through some adversity in a tight anaconda choke, muscles up, gets out of it, and then just beat the hell out of Ramazzan Amiv, up to the body, dropped him with a nasty body shot, and then became the first man to finish Ramazon Amive in the UFC.

and the question is, how high do we want to go here? I think I have the perfect one, A.K. I think I have the perfect fight. I've been waiting. This is a very popular name, and I've been waiting for the right spot to say this name, and I think we've got it. Jack Della Madelana versus Mr. Chaos Williams.

Get it on the books. Let's make it happen. Next couple of months, if we can. I love that matchup. I think it's the perfect next step up after beating a Ramazanamiv. No more. I mean, listen. He wants to keep ticket on those Dagestani wrestling challenges.

That's what you're saying at the post-fight press conference. But he wants to fight Chaos Williams instead. That's just such a banger. That's really good. That's really good. I thought I had the perfect matchup, who, as it turns out, is booked. But I went with, I really want to see him fight Jeremiah Wells. Pretty much two and over two and O.

Jeremiah Wells is set to fight Cort McGee, U.S. Austin, June 18th. But I'd kind of be okay saying given the winner of that fight. Court McGee, again, has had like 20 UFC fights. So there's that experience. There's that gap in experience there. But I'm so impressed. I was so impressed by JDM that, like, I'm willing to throw him up there. I'm willing to throw him up there with Cort McGee.

A guy who's a real stalwart, super tough out, very difficult to knockout. If Mattelena can get a, any knockout, I don't care, first, second, third round, knockout against Cort McGee, man, I'll be, I mean, I was super impressed after Saturday. I don't know what I'm going to think about it after. I might just totally freak out and put him in the top 10. That's probably a bit of an overreaction. but yeah let me see him versus the Wells McGee winner but I do I do love that chaos Williams choice though yeah can't go wrong kick a wrong go up fun fight someone with

the name let's go I see some court McGee action uh court's booked I believe and what's crazy about that's like it's Wells and they should just push that fight back to August 20th should they not I mean yeah yeah my Wells yeah yeah Yeah, I mean, come on. Cortman Gee is from freaking Salt Lake City. Wait, that's not, oh, as in you, I just said that's an Austin, right? Oh, yeah, that's silly. Yeah, just, I mean.

That is silly. Just push it back. I don't know how many fights are on the card, but, I mean, just push it back a couple of months. Come on. Hey, listen. And also, by the way, Bobby Maximus. Can we get by Maximus in Salt Lake City? Can we get by him?

He lives there. I know the UFC is like, probably like, do we really want to sign this guy? He's 40. What is he 40? What is he's 40? I, I just about I interviewed him. I should know. It's 43, I think.

I know he's a 43-year-old, but look, he can compete at heavyweight. Everyone there is old as hell anyway. He's insult. You don't have to even pay for his accommodations travel. He's there. He's there. Give Bobby Maximus a fight. Yeah, give him Francis Ngano.

Give him Francis Ngano. Let's go. What a story. Have a couple of 40-year-old champs. So I want to pull this up real quick. Uh-huh. We talked about this at the post-fight show. Mark Goddard, actually.

addressed this because this was a talking point during the fight. This was weird. This is weird. It looked like a, there are a couple of moments in that fight. If you watch close enough, you, you questioned it. You were like, huh, did he, did he just have? And then we realized, like, it is Yuri Perashka,

but he probably didn't, but did he? So Mark Goddard, who is the referee and one of the all-time great referees, was asked about this on Twitter. What I like about Mark Goddard so much is that if someone hits him up, and there's something that's being debated about a fight that he was a part of, he will answer the question openly and honestly.

So he was asked, what's the view on the perceived Yuri tapping if you watched it back? And Mark Goddard's response was, LOL, LOL, Yuri was actually congratulating and encouraging his opponent. He did it a couple of times during the fight,

and I told him it's a risky game, but it's very clear what he was doing and intending. Let's celebrate the incredible fee for both gentlemen. So basically, he didn't tap. He was almost like, almost like, clapping in a way like he's literally like good job Glover yeah like that was a good move listen

this is why Mark Goddard gets these big assignments and not like a Jaron Vallel because a Jaron Vallel part of him like oh my god and just and just said oh he tapped out and then we would and Glover would still be the champion and you and I Chris Tyone would have stopped that fight I don't know and then restarted it somehow oh my bad

listen yeah he did he did actually physically tap it was very strange. But this is why you have good reps because they have to perceive intent. Yeah, it's in the rules that tap out signals submission, but also he can hear what they're saying. He can see the intent behind the tap.

So anyone who missed it, yeah, it was twice. I think I want to say it was the second round. Glover was on top in Mount. I think he was in mounts. And, you know, looking for some, not even really, not like in the middle of a submission, but definitely looking to advance, doing some ground and pound,

trying to set up arm triangles, things like that. First, Yuri tapped on his head, not open palm, but like a half, like this, almost like an open fist. So that was weird. And I saw that and I'm like, okay, why is he doing that? Like I know it's not a tap, but that's very strange. And then right on the side of his body, a very clear, like a three, like that. That was so, and that was so strange.

But again, Mark Goder clearly was looking at, you know, Uri's expression, probably listened to him talk. He could see that there wasn't really a submission hold being applied, that Uri was not showing distress, wasn't in danger. So it was like a pat like good job like man you're really like you're really giving it to me. Good good work. So I don't know if that's the smartest thing to do, but there's about a half dozen things that fight that Yuri Parashka did where we're like that wasn't the smartest thing to do. And guess what? He's the UFC light heavyweight champion. So yeah.

To us and everyone else don't tell him how to do it. All right. Yeah. It's just hilarious because you know Yeri is probably like, hey Mark, Mark, I'm not tapping right now. Okay. I'm not about to tap. I'm going to give him his props. Oh, Yer.

You're a Glover. Nice job, dude. Really good. But it looked, it definitely looked like it. But again, Goddard's right there. It's Singapore. It's that market. So the crowd is just kind of quiet. So Mark could literally hear everything that was going on. You could probably hear every breath that was taken. You could probably hear every word that was said. I'm sure Yuri was talking to him the entire time in a lot of ways. So it's just such a crazy fight. Can you can you pull up this comment from C&C Comedy Factory? I like that. I like this. sarcastic tapping oh no I'm so in danger as a fan of sarcastic clapping I like to do the I want to believe that that was the mid-flight equivalent of that like oh yeah you really got me oh yeah I'm really

yeah I like that that is my yeah it was either encouragement or sarcastic tapping which again probably not a smart thing to do I don't think a lot of referees can discern between sarcasm and actually being in trouble but if you want to try it go for it Yeah, Herb Dean would have been like, uh, it's not a... You know what? You know what? Stop. Stop.

Fight's over. Oh, Herb team. The first one, the one against the head would have it going like, ah, ah, and when he saw the second one, it's like, oh, no, no, no. This is just getting too crazy. Herb Dean would have been doing the Cupid shuffle, going to the left to the right, kicking, and then doing the turn, and then finally would have stopped him. What a, God, what a vastly different fight that could have been if Herb Dean was the referee instead of Mark Goddard. Wow. Thank you. Thank you, Mark Goddard.

Let's go to the wild card round, A.K. And we're going to select one fighter. We have not matched made for yet. And we're going to do it right now. So it could be someone from the main card that was not victorious that we have not matched for yet. Could be anybody from the prelims. You're up.

What do you got? Mike, I cheated. Oh, no. Hashtag rules rule. Always, of course. But I didn't really see the prelims. I saw the highlights. I have not watched the prelims.

Oh, you did the same thing I did, didn't you? Menel cop No, I didn't do it. Okay, okay, good. Menelcault was supposed to by Hoagiero Bontarine. Unfortunately, the day before the fight, Bontarine withdrew. He had to go to the hospital.

He was hospitalized with the kidney issues, which were related to his weight cut. He has had issues making weight in the past. He missed for a bantam weight out against Matt Chanel. So that was kind of troubling. It's a fly weight bout. And, you know, we'll have to look at that in the future. And I'm sure Menel Cot would be happy with running that one back.

But at the same time, he's ready to go. Let's just get him, listen, And we got cards in June. Let's get them ready to fight. Let's send them to Paris. You know, whatever you want to do with them. But I think we want to see, we want to see. We were raw.

This is an amazing card. And we could have had a Manel Cop fight on there as well. Think about how much that might have put it over the top. So, yeah, whatever it takes, book this. That's my pick. Manil Cop versus whoever, whoever's ready to go. Let's get this man back in action, get them booked as soon as possible. Yeah.

And the answer is the year of the raw dog, Brandon Royval. That's the fight to make. Do it. Do it July. 30th in Dallas. I think that's the perfect card to put it on. We get the flyweight's in there. We got another big flyweight fight between Pantosia and Perez. That'd be a nice little addition to that card as well. I mean, come on. What fight? I can't think of a better fight. I mean, you probably could, but realistically, a better fight that would lead into a pay-per-view event

coming off of an ESPN prelim, the freaking Minel cap and Brandon Royval. Oh, my God. That would that would give you some pay-per-view buys for sure. I also cheated AK. I cheated, and I cheated a different way because I chose a fighter that I think we did officially ban from the show. And I'm unbanned him for the sake of this because, listen, no disrespect to anybody from the prelims who got wins. But there's, I mean, you can match those winners up with anybody.

And it makes sense. Like, you're not wrong. I'm going with Andre Fialo Matthew Semmelisberger That's just a fun scrap Just let those guys get in there Listen Andre Fialho I think we've realized

And I said this many times In the lead into the fight Super fun guy Has the power to knock out Anybody in the first round It's possible But from a skill versus skill level

He's not going to be a top 50 He maybe cracks the top 50 At some point I actually don't think he will But he's not going to be a guy is going to be fighting for a title or anything. He's going to be sort of in that Nico Price, which is a great place to be where every time your name comes up, people are like, yes, let's watch this dude fight. I think Fialho is going to be kind of in that boat.

So let's just give this dude fun fights. Him and Semmelsberg would be a super fun fight. Semmelsberger would hammer and tongs with K.S. Williams for 15 minutes and limped to tell the tail. And not many guys can say that. He did. And that's just a good fight. So that's the one I'm going I was going to say Samelberger is also an option for Jack Delamadena, I feel. Yeah, that's a good one too. So if you guys. John Ray. Yeah, I mean, Cool about versus Elkins.

Yeah. I like it. So if you all want to, you do Cap versus DeVorek, I mean, I think Cap's kind of way ahead of Dvorick at this point. Not way ahead, but, yeah, I mean, that's not a bad one. I just don't. Dvorik's not the most active guy. So I think we're looking to get him in there quickly, right?

Yeah. This is our goal here. Yeah. I mean, if he all had won Kevin Holland, if he beat Tim Means. Oh, that'd be so fun. I see a lot of, I've seen a couple of these. But Joe Beheada versus Jake. I mean, what does Alex Behead have to do to get himself a top 10 opponent?

What else does this man have to do? But Jake looks fantastic. Okay. Jake looks fantastic. Yeah. But Pahed is just winning. It's five in a row or not? He's five in a row, right?

Five, that's, is that if you count the Diego or if you don't count the Diego? Diego. I think it's if you don't. So six for me, probably. It's like real quick. It is five in a row, not including the Diego disqualification. Yeah. I mean, we need to, Pajeda has earned the right to see how good he is. Like we need to put it. He deserves a top 10 guy or at least someone ranked ahead of him. We test him. Let's see if this guy's the real deal. You got to do it now. And Jake is still a young man. He's got time. He's got time. Ponson, good pick. I like that.

That's a fine pick as well. Okay. I'm into that. I'm into that. There's your, I mean, he's not top 15 anymore, but I mean, he's right, he's been in there, and he's right at the edge for me. I love the love for Glover Tashara. Let me, where is it?

I just. Listen, if you don't love Glover to Chera after that fight, if I see anyone criticizing Glover to share after that fight, you can, I was going to say, I just, no, listen, no, we're all friends here. We're all friends here. But if I see anyone talking mess about, and you know I'm serious because I despise everyone from the New England area except for Mike Heck and Glover de Scherer. So this is how strong, this is how much this man has won me over. I'm calling John Anick right now.

I'm going to tell him what you just said. Oh, he's trash. He's a great broadcaster. It's a shame that he's from New England. Is it time for Brennan Allen to get another. shot of the top 15 fight. My answer to that question is no, because you can, I thought Brendan Allen won. I think the judges got this one right. However, a lot of people felt like Jacob Alcoun won that fight. And in Singapore, I thought there's a very good chance that he's going to get a little bit of

home cooking and judges who aren't all that aware of the new scoring, because you saw some weird scorecards throughout the night that didn't make a whole lot of sense. So you can make a I thought we're going to see maybe a sputty for Malcoun, and it wouldn't have been a robbery. I scored it for Brennan. I don't know, man. I just, Brendan's a good,

serviceable fighter. I just don't know if he's, I don't know if he's a top 15 guy. I just don't know, AK, maybe it's there. He's still pretty young. He's not like he's 35 right now,

so he's still got time. I don't know what else he needs to do. I just, I just don't, he's close. He's like, teetering on that line. And just to me,

just it's just not quite there yet in my rankings i have him this i'm sorry ufc only rankings i have him 18 i have him 18 he took a hit when he lost to uh chris curtis that definitely hurt his his standing he was he was probably i probably had him at 15 before that and just kind of knocked him down he's got some great wins i think colerobson's a really good win caldakis i think is a really good win tom breeze the time was a really good win kevin holland uh that's I know, again, kind of, yeah. Yeah, he's on the cusp, you know. What was the original question?

Does he deserve a top 10 or top 15 guy? Should he get a top 15 opponent next? Top 15. Yeah, I'm with you. Again, I didn't see the fight, but he had, it was split in and made decisions. Nine people had it for nine media scores, had it for Malcoun, 84, Brennan Allen. And Brandon Allen himself after did not sound very enthusiastic about his performance. He was almost as bummed out as Yeri was.

Yeri called his performance horrible. And he won by submission. He won a UFC title. So I guess I can't imagine how Brendan Allen was feeling. He's also kind of stuck in that middle of the pack where there's like a lot of good options for him. Some of these names are already booked. But there are, there's no, there's just no rush, I think, for the UFC to put him into the top of thing. I think as you mentioned, Mike, I think he mentioned his age.

He's 26, turns 27 this year. he's almost like a middleweight Jake Matthews type where it's like let's just keep, you know, running him into guys that are around his range. Why push him up? Let's see what we have here. Because yeah, a very talented guy and a tough fighter.

Can he take it to the next level? We'll see. I say, again, give him someone else again in the 16 to 30 range before the end of the year. And then let's revisit this in 2023. Yeah. Chris Hewitt puts out the suggestion Brennan Allen versus Edmund Schabberg.

I don't know if I love that idea. I feel like that's a nightmare fight for Edmund Shabazzian because Bren is just so big for this weight class and he's got really good top control. I just feel like Shabazzian is just going to get put on his back and for 15 minutes. And I think at this point, the next fight you book for Shabazian is something in his wheelhouse with a fellow striker that he has a chance to win. I think you've already missbooked him a number of times. of this point you got to get this guy a win and Brennan Allen is probably not the guy now

Daniel Edwards had this a suggestion I like this fight a lot I think this makes perfect sense at 185 Jacob Alcun versus Nick Maximoff yeah it's just gonna be a scramble fest so if you're into that kind of thing go the scrambles over those 15 minutes between these two guys is just gonna be ridiculous so I love this idea that's a that's a deep cut I like that um and yeah in regards to Shabasian man I keep thinking he has a fight booked or at least has had a fightbook that's fallen through, but we've had not even a whisper of a matchup since his loss to Nasoridia Mavov, which was in this past November, November of last year, guys.

So that's kind of crazy. He is, we are approaching, well, I shouldn't say. We're actually a few months off from it. But he is at two and a half years since his last win, like Brad Tavares. Two and a half years. For a guy who is for a guy who is 24 years old and should be like in the, you know, be in this nice busy period, taking three fights a year, building his resume, getting experienced. To not have a win in two and a half years is crazy. And by no means is it too late for Edmund

Shabazzini to turn things around because frankly, frankly, he hasn't even begun. I mean, his career, I think his career hasn't begun. But we have seen MMA fighters go from promising prospect to never will be very quickly. I hope that's not the case for him. I do, you know, he has made very substantial changes to his management, which is, that's a start. That's a start, right? So he's at least trying to do something. He's not just ramming his hands to wall. But yeah, Brendan Allen might not be the one you want to give him the business right now.

By the way, do we have any extracurriculars? I don't know. I honestly, I did not have a chance to check. So again, hey, listen, listen, I'm told all our usual DM guys, usual listeners, pay-per-view shows. I'm sorry, we big-time, we big-time people, we go live. We big time the people who made us But like I said

I'll try to respond to all y'all And if there's any individual Otno points to be handed out Maybe we'll carry it over to next week Mike maybe I'll take a look And then we can mention individual Otno appoint assignments On next week's next week's

All right so if you have bashby suggestions Go them in the chat Keep going And we're going to get after this Probably for the next like 10 minutes We're just going to rapid fire your picks Yes let me also by the way Let me shout out Daniel Edwards again

I know he just gave us that great Malcolm Maximo This is his first time. He's a first time Otno contributing. So he sent me a DM. So I appreciate it. He sent me a DM and he tuned into the show. So Daniel Edwards, good job.

So I'm going to, at first time, I always like to give him some shine. He had also just wants to see run back. Not run back. Excuse me. He wants a run back of Jan and Glover. So he's saying, let's do that one first. And maybe the winner of that, then we figure out, I guess, Gatspurajka. I don't know.

And he wants Yuri to face Enkaaev if he beat Smith. So I'm kind of on the same page as that. And he writes, I like the Glover. Yon rematch as it occupies the old guard in a big fight while fresh blood gets their opportunity. All right. Here we go. Jeremiah. Oh.

Joshua Kulab versus Joe Anderson Brito. Okay. I like that one. I'm into it. I'm into it. It's a good fight. Yeah. I had a look.

I didn't know Brito was booked. He is not coming out the winner of Andre Feeley. But geez, Louise, what a fight. I mean, that's just going to be pure chaos. I love it. Gene Tidwell, Ron, back valentina tyos antos too not tiago yeah i mean we want to tell us i just yeah i think we're a lot of us can you can you grab this question from cameron batco about the the that

montage they ran during the prelims apparently that was narrated by bisming oh my god we'll get to that i'll get that i'll get down yeah grab it when you can grab it when you can uh blue raider 1086 You know what? Blue Raider 1086. I love it. People always talk about number one contenders match. People never talk enough about the number 16 contenders match. And that is, right? Why don't why don't people build this? Like this is this number 16 on the line. Not for all the, for this this fight is for some of the marbles. Oh, that is tremendous. Well done. Well done. Blue Raider. I like that. It could be the headliner of a contender series card or something. I mean, that is just unbelievable. John Wake, if they made Usman Mazadol too, there's no reason they can't be Glover-Rurie, too. I mean, I think there's different circumstances here. We're talking about Mazadol who stepped in on like a week's notice to fight Usman, cut all that weight.

Wasn't the most compelling fight. And at the time, I mean, Mazel is probably the best financial. And you're trying to, you're trying to sell tickets to an event in Florida. first one in the crowd since the pandemic started. I mean, I just didn't see any other way if you're going to put Usman in the main event spot for being honest, but unless you get somehow lure like GSP back,

which we do wasn't going to happen. Another big difference. Usman and Mosbyt all didn't murderize each other for near 25 minutes in the first fight. So, yeah, that's that to consider. Yes, going through here. The thing that just likes to jump around. Oh, I think I got it perfect there.

How about that? What did you put? Yeah, I mean, we're going to answer this. I know Dan, I've seen this a million times. No, she did not get robbed. For Valentina. Robbery Review incoming Monday. And I may change my mind.

Like I said, I do have to. It's the second round was the swing round. I do have to watch that round again. My thoughts were, Schochenko did enough damage on the feet to, to overcome the very little offense that Santos had in talk control. But I will watch the round again. But I'm thinking not about it.

A lot of Brennan-Lennon-Brand-Betrosky. Oh, like that. That's a big jump up for Petroski. I mean, and listen, Petrosky called out Gerald Mearschart and Brennan Allen, Gerald Mearsherrard are like bros. So there you go. Brennan versus Makkah Mirdov. I don't know if Murdof is booked.

I think he is booked. I didn't think it's a recent one. Let me just look it up real quick. Let me look, go to the old topology page. Check. I believe he is booked. He is booked against. Oh, my God.

I just, Abu Supion Magomadoff. Oh, Abis. Abus, you can shorten that to Abis. Abis, Magamato, sure. There you go. Let's see what else we got. Shabazi might not fight for a while.

Yeah. Why? Why? What's up? I mean, listen, he's going to get better. Take some time. You're right.

I encourage, if he can afford to take time off, I encourage it. You're right, you're right. Kane look good against Dana. What do you think of Kang versus the winner of Eddie Weiland versus Cody Stamen next week? Love it.

Love it. Nicky Jose, terrible profile picture. It is for anyone who's listening to this in podcast form. It is, of course, the Frankie Edgar's face getting deformed by a friend kick from Cheeto Vera. Terrible. Terrible profile picture. Hector, how about Brennan Allen versus Calvin Gaslam? Good fight to get Gaslam back on track and a chance for Alan to elevate himself.

What do you think about that idea? I mean, that's the top. If you want to throw him in there with someone on the top of Dean. I mean, that's the guy, right? You know, Calvin Gaslam, I mean, we just want to get him. he's had such a weird run like he's someone i still consider to be an elite middleweight maybe it is just the fumes of the uh the israel disinia fight that i've never which by the way that's well three years over three years ago now um but i i don't know i just he's only lost to like

the best of the best the best guys and darren till and that was a close fight so i don't know i don't know how much we can knock him down um and they keep matching him up like he's a top guy nasordine amavov uh Drickus duplice. You know, these fights just didn't happen. But he's obviously, the U.C. does not view him as someone that needs to give an easy fight. So yeah, maybe Brandon Allen is the right name for him. And if you're Brent Allen, I mean, you definitely jump at that one.

Alan versus the winner of Buckley, Dariah. I think if Dariah wins, that's an interesting fight. Buckley, I mean, Buckley could not, could clearly knock out Brennan Allen. But if Brandon gets fight to the ground, I just don't, I don't like his chances. So, yeah, not a bad idea. Another Alan Petrosky suggestion from Jay. what was the JDM versus

what was the the comment Cameron Bradcoe I believe was the name of the commenter and he just wanted to know I didn't see this again this was on the prelims

I was made there you go Cameron Batko excuse me what were your opinions on the media package that this being did during the prelands that showed all the brutal

knockouts now I missed this again I was I was out of a family family occasion of course MMA's number one sadist

Kristen King immediately messaged me saying did you see that that was amazing. That's a great. She's like, that's the greatest thing I've ever seen. And I'm like,

and she described like, oh, they just showed all these injuries. Fantastic. And I'm like, okay, fair enough. So I don't know if it's on YouTube, if they're throwing up on YouTube

or it's on their social media, probably is. So I will, well, I should ask you? Like, should I look at this? I'm pretty squeamish.

It was, do you ever see, do you ever watch the show Kirby enthusiasm? I have not yet. And I don't know why I should. Okay. So there's this, there's an episode.

where Larry David has a freak, like a freak show book. It's about, it's a book of like freaks. And he gave it to Ted, to try to give it to Ted Danson as like a birthday present. Ted Dantz that was like kind of effed up. So there's a,

there's a scene where Larry David and tennis player John McEnroe are like going through the freak book. And they're sitting in this like VIP lounge. And they're just reacting to all like the freak photos and stuff for whatever that is. That's what this package reminded me of. It was the whole thing about, Yuan's face after the first Zhang Wei-le fight, then the brutal knockouts,

but not just the brutal knockouts, what they looked like after. So you saw like Devin Clark's teeth all knocked out. You saw Alastair O'Rean's lip. You saw all the gnarly like sort of gruesome moments from that aspect.

It was just weird. Why? It was just a weird thing. This is a very this is a very W-W-E-ish kind of a It was just a very strange package. Do you think they, do you think they showed that in the Singapore broadcast?

I don't know. Because they're not, I mean, again, we're basing this on kind of one's presentation of what they say the fan base is like in Singapore and in Asia. They usually don't emphasize that sort of thing, like that kind of grotesquery. So I am like, yeah, I don't know. I am really surprised that happened.

I don't know why they would do it. It just doesn't sound like something that's good for, that's good for business. So I don't know. Truly bizarre. So I don't have to watch this, right? I mean, you could watch it. I'm sure you will. As a media member, am I required to?

Not really. It's just so, it was just so weird and like out of place. It just was. So somebody pitched this for the first time. and they were like, let's try it. And it was just weird. And so we are saying Kristen King is the Larry David of at the Amay world then. Yeah, she texted all of her friends.

She probably FaceTime them. Watch this. And they probably were all reacting together. There's probably Instagram stories about said reaction. Okay. I'm going to tell her to listen to this later. Kristen, don't get me a freak book or anything or a freak, I don't know, a freak book, NFT or whatever version of that exists online.

I don't want to see it. Let's run through some of these quick. Bonfish Kang versus Kyler Phillips. Yeah. I don't think Kyle Phillips is like so high that he shouldn't be taking on like tough fights like Jungo Kang. Ghost Phantom 98. Oh, we didn't even mention. Have we mentioned.

Have we mentioned Marina once on the show so far? And you know what's funny as I mean, it was like 5 a.m. as this is happening. But even when Shaheen was talking to the White Division and he listed off all the names, he didn't mention Marine either. Marina has been left out of this conversation altogether now. And she sounds like she, again, and she's kind of had this attitude after some of her other big wins.

She's kind of sounds like, again, like, yeah, I understand that. Because she said before the fight, talking to Jose Youngs, by the way, did incredible work on site in Singapore, 12 hours away on the other side of the world. She said like, yeah, you know, now I'm angling for a fight with Rose maybe in August. You know, she wasn't like, it wasn't like a proper callout or anything. but she sounded like, she sounded like,

yep, I know, I'm not, and this is before, by the way, this was before the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh,

the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, she was just like, she's read the tea leaves. She's read, I guess what we've said in the media, what Dana White has kind of hinted at,

uh, not hinted at that, sorry, what Dana White said straight out this week, whoever wins that fights getting a tell a shot. So rather than kick and scream, she just says, give me another fight.

Give me the friggin' former champion Rose Namajunus and I'll, and I'll beat her and I'll earn the tell shot that way. And I don't know, man. It is crazy. But I think it says something else with that, yeah, we hadn't even mentioned her up until this point. So maybe she fights Zhang. I don't know.

We got to talk about Manashata. Ooh. I love this fight. Jeremiah Manashata versus Euros Medici. Love it. 22 years old? No way. No way.

I saw somebody else say Manashata versus Slava Claus. Okay. That's not a bad one. there it is right there question for host can rackage lay and pray his way to the title probably not but you know who could maga man ankle i could do that and i'm not saying that like oh i i think he finishes yuri oh really yeah i don't think so i know people are saying oh well glover couldn't do it i think there's a athleticism gap um that helped yury and that's not taking away from yurie's also his insane preparation,

his natural, like he's just a really skilled smart fighter. But I think Magamah's not going to F around. I don't think he's going to jump for a guillian in an opportune time. I think he's just got that super solid ground game that's going to break Uri down. And I think he actually will.

I'll call it now. He's going to finish him. Wow. Jake Matthews. Rematch? I mean, I would pick... Rematch? Let's do it again.

I don't think he wants to fight that guy. Jaden Rosario, Do you not remember when frigging, uh, Lee Jinglang, nearly gouged his damn eyes out? So, uh, yeah, I don't know if we can see that one again. That's just funny, but I love it. And I agree with you. Glover deserves to be a big star.

He should be. He's every like in a perfect world, you know, Glover would be like Connor McGregor big, but we don't live in that world, sadly. Shout to versus Natan, love you. That would be fun. I like that. Yeah. Yeah.

They're around the same spot in the rankings for me. I like that. Kirkland. Come on. No. Kirkland, Middellon. Come on. It's Jack Della versus Sean Brady.

I love you, buddy, but really? You said Sean Brady back to Jack Della, Madelana? And I just think it's way too soon. It may be a fun fight, but I just don't think we need to see it yet. I'm not going to pull this one up because we didn't read the, we didn't read the, about a shot at the versus Bobby. Come on, Bobby Green's fighting Jim Miller. Very soon, too.

Hold on. I need to shout. Let me see if I need to shut out any. Oh, yeah, let me shout out another first timer while you're digging out some comments here. This is from Bick Squad, brick squad on email. What's up, Brick Squad? I'll just read out some of these. Kyeongho versus Casey Kenney.

We've got a lot of Casey Kennedy matchups over the last, I feel like three episodes. I used to get in there. Brendan Allen versus Wellington Termin. This would be a battle of two guys who have beaten Sam Alvey, right? Or did, did, do you know? That was such a weird fight. See, this is what, see, guys? You did, yeah.

Normally we have time to prep. But listen, I can't think of any other matchup I want to see more in the history of the UFC than the battle for the number 16 spot. Yes, you're right, you're right. We've settled on Brennan-R-Lar. And there's a story there because Yako just beat Gerald Mearschart. There we go. Now we get a story to tell. No fight for tournament as of right now.

How do you feel Josh Kulabal versus Lucas Al-Meda? I think people mentioned that in our show last week. It was like Al-Meda versus the Kulabau-Choi winner. So I think that's just simple. It's almost like kind of following up on that. Jack Delamadalina versus Maseranduba. Hmm. Francisco Trinaldo.

I don't hate it. Huge experience gap. But like I could see the UFC just doing it. Zhang Wei versus Esparsa. Yeah, if you want to say, Hitt. Brick Squad, this is just juvenile. Head Batina Borchenko versus Tilos Santos, too.

That's it. Come on. That's amazing. Come on. I do always like when people... I do always like when people are making like an insulting nickname, and they'd use both the first and last name. Because some people...

He could have gone with... He could have gone with Head Batina Shepchenko. He could have gone with Valentina Borchenko. He said, no. No. He's like, I'm not choosing one. I'm going both. I like when people do it,

where it's almost unrecognizable who the person is talking about. That's commitment to insulting someone. And, of course, they just want to see... Clover and Yuri run a back. So thank you, Brick Squad, and thank you for that amazingly creative insults at one of the greatest fighters of all time, Valadina Shepchenko. A couple more. All right. Does Israel out of Assange have any chance to get Jerry Pashka?

I feel like this would be, I feel like if the UFC had their druthers, this would be the fight they would build towards, like in the next two years. Like, Izzy just keeps going. Yuri goes on a run. and I feel like this would be the one that it would lead to at the end. Like this would be the end of the road would be these two guys. Now you're asking a lot of both guys, especially Yuri Perashka. But if that happens, let's just say both guys run off three to four title defenses

in the next 18 months to two years. You know the UFC. Dana, I'm telling you right now, if Izzy beats Jared Kandonier, when I'm in Vegas at UFC 276, I guarantee you that Dana White is going to be asked about Izzy versus Yuri for Hashgai. Guarantee it. The seed will be planted then and there. But if these guys run off title defenses, that is where the UFC probably wants to go with this thing at the very end of it, right?

I remember when the Israel-Evasanja-Lajajani, Jan Blyhoj fight was made. I think I was like a lot of people. I was pretty excited about it. But stylistically, it did feel a little imperfect. It did feel a bit odd. But, you know, I mean, who didn't want to see? Edison, you know, put this unbeaten run on the line and another division. So that was cool.

I think you're right. I want to see a build towards it. I don't know how soon it would make sense. I guess it depends, yes. It depends how Edison just fight goes with Canaanier. If he fights someone else in middleweight because there are guys out there, Andre Munez and the Alpsaheda, of course, the rematch. So, yeah, it feels like it could happen.

And now Yidi also would have to go on a streak, right? and we're not even sure if we gets past Ankleyev. So a cool fight to talk about. I'm definitely leaning towards it probably never happening. I don't know if you're with me on that one, Mike, if you had to bet like, if you had to throw up arbitrarily a percentage on there, I'd give it like a 20% chance of happening.

I don't know if you feel stronger about it. I'm probably a little higher because I think that's what the, like I think that internally, the UFC's already talking about this fight as a possibility. just build it up but again we're asking a lot of both guys we've talked about it at nauseam it is so hard to be a UFC champion and just continuously defend your title against these contenders I feel like I feel like the gap is a little closer at 205 not saying that I mean not saying that is he can't be beat at 185 but I feel like he'll beat Jared Kennedy Air even though

Canadaer brings some stylistic challenges Alex Paheda I mean that's look what they do with Alex Paheda. Alex Pahela had like, what, four MMA fights, and he's already a win away from fighting for the title after three UFC fights. That's wild. We knew they were kind of kind of build to that, even though deep down, it didn't make a whole lot of sense, like from a meritocratic perspective. But here we are. And if Alex Paheda beats Sean Strickland at UFC 276 and Izzy beat Jerry Kahn and Air, that's going to be the next fight. Unranked to title fight, AK. So I guarantee you they're like initial discussions are like, man, can you imagine if we get Izzy versus Yuri in there? That's a big deal.

But yeah, I don't know. I can believe there's internal discussions. I can buy into that. I can buy into that. I just don't think it happens anytime soon or frankly, in my opinion, possibly ever. Yeah. Let's go. Let's see if we can find a couple more here.

and then we're going to get out of here. Kenzie Dernish champs soon. All right. Hey, it's changed your things that happen. And I said on the post-fight show, I always love fighters that have an A-plus skill. You certainly need to see them rounded out. But like Glover-Degers is a perfect example. Well, he has like multiple A-plus skills.

He was like a really great concern. Looked out as a really outstanding elite boxer before he started really, you know, sort of using his jiu-chitsu more, which was already also an elite level, which didn't see him using it to finish. It wasn't at his like his, his method of his preferred method of finishing to the first whatever 30 fights of his career. Now he's gone, he went on this incredible submission street.

But yeah, so I always like McKenzie Duren's chances. She's a plus athlete as well in the division. So anyone wants to count her out. I understand why. But the UFC wants to give her a chance. I think she's closer than people think to being a legitimate threat to win a title. Maybe I'm selling it too much. I don't know.

I think we've done enough here. I think we have match made. I think you guys helped us a lot. There's a lot of comments. I didn't think we'd get a lot of people, especially after technical difficulties with the first link. We got the second link. We're up to like 6 a.m. talking about it and trying to come down from just a ridiculously crazy

UFC 275 main card, an insane main event. So many storylines. I can't wait to talk about it throughout the week. Oh, hold on. I ran a poll, Mike. I ran a poll. Oh, we had a poll. Yes, there was a poll.

Let me end the poll now. So in the spirit of future matchmaking, which fighter are you most excited to see again after UFC 275? Yiri Parasca ran away with it. 65%. Zhang, Valentina, and Tyler were all in there. Zhang second to 17%. Valentina 10%.

Tyler's really low, 6%. But I guess just sort of compared to Yuri that no one really stood a chance because what a performance that was. What was it? What was Yuri and Glover again? It was just a year. I just put Yuri. I just put Yuri.

Your and Glover would be the top two easy. Okay, okay. So I should have put a Glover in there. But I want to show Tyler Sandh. It's fine, time. Yeah. Also, it's only four. I'm surprised.

I'm surprised Yeri isn't higher. I'm not surprised Zhang isn't higher. Yeah, that's good foot. That's a crazy knockout. And I assume people just want to see the title fight, right? So, but yeah, but I mean, Yeri's just so fun to watch. You know what?

You put on one of the greatest fights of all time. What a shocker. People want to see you fight again. And, like, I do want to tell people, because we probably have some, a lot of viewers that we don't normally get, send your picks in in the future guys because you know we love getting your comments on youtube is a super fun way of doing it but if you do become a regular if you are a new listener a viewer and you want to be and you become a regular listener again we do this podcast after

every card send me your picks people on my dms are open everywhere instagram at alexander k lee excuse me twitter at alexander k lee just the 1k email alex dot lee at sp nation dot com M underscore heck JR is where you can submit your Otno picks. By the way, if you enjoyed UFC 275, I have a good feeling that we're going to enjoy even more fights next Saturday because the UFC is returning to Austin, Texas. And I really like this fight card. On paper, I felt that this is the top to bottom better fight card than UFC 275. Now the bar is set extremely high.

Calvin Cater versus Josh Emmett, the main event, Donald Serroney versus Joe Lozon, Tim Means versus Kevin Wallen, Buckley, Albert Dariath, Demir Isma Gula versus Gurum Kutatsalate. That fight is friggin' awesome. Julian Marquez, Gregory Rodriguez. That main card is nuts. And Julian Marquez versus Gregory Rodriguez, that's perfect.

Beautiful matchmaking. Beautiful matchmaking. Adriennez. On the prelims. Yeah, Adrienne is on the prelims against Tony Kelly. I think Adrianiannaz is going to be quite the fan favorite in Austin and around the world. Jeremiah Wells, Cort McGee, Jazz and Jazz DeVee. versus Natalia Silva, Gloria DePaula, Maria Oliveira, Danny Chavez, Ricardo, Hamos,

Cody, David E. Weylin, Kyle Dawkins, Roman DeLizze, Phil Haas, Duran win, all going down next Saturday in Austin. I love it. And by the way, not loving, all these fights are good. I'm not even going to complain that it's a 14 fight card, but we have a 4 p.m. Eastern prelim, 7 p.m. Eastern Main Card, I believe. And I like that a lot. I like that a lot. So a lot to be excited about these next bunch of cards are going to be great.

Because guess what's headlining the card after that? Oh, that one of, oh, yeah. The hardcore fans delight. Oh, we know what that is. It is Matush Gamrod versus the future. UFC lightweight champion, Armand Serupian. Five rounds, baby. Let's go.

And with that being said, so much to look forward to get some sleep. Get some sleep, everybody. We appreciate you joining us the day after chaos for A.K. Lee. I am Mike Heck. Always remember the golden rule of this show and just MMA fighting content in general. Don't take this stuff too seriously.

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