MMA Fighting - On To the Next One | Matches To Make After UFC 283

Episode Date: January 22, 2023

As the first UFC pay-per-view event becomes a thing of the past, what's next for the new light heavyweight champion Jamahal Hill after his incredible performance against the now retired Glover Teixeir...a in the main event of UFC 283 on Saturday night in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil? What about the now undisputed flyweight champion Brandon Moreno after his third-round TKO win in the co-main event, as well as his longtime rival Deiveson Figueiredo? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee attempt to answer those questions from a matchmaking perspective. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for Gilbert Burns after his near flawless submission win over Neil Magny in the welterweight featured bout, Jessica Andrade following her dominant decision win over the ultra tough Lauren Murphy, Johnny Walker, and more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:25 It's a Sunday morning. It's the first live on to the next one of 2023. So just got to make sure we have the eyes dotted and the T's Cross. We welcome you to a brand new edition of On to the Next one. We're live following the first UFC pay-per-view of the year, which all in all is a pretty fun card, one that gave us two new UFC world champions and Jamal. Hill and Brandon Moreno marked the end of two legendary careers. And in other cases, also marked the beginning or the continuation of some exciting up-and-coming runs in the sport of mixed
Starting point is 00:02:00 martial arts and the UFC following UFC 283. The promotions return to Brazil for the first time in almost three years. But thank you for watching live with us. Thank you for listening or watching after the fact. I am my tech. Please bear with me. Not much left in the old voice department. We're going to battle through it like we always do after last night and joining me as you can see is the co-host the co-matchmaker the prince of positivity and damn he's my best friend alexander kaley a kai i kha how are you my man uh i'm doing great uh konghai fat joy happy chinese new year to all my all my people's out there it is uh the year of the rabbit kicking off possibly the year of the raw dog we don't know still to be determined uh horrible to hear there was a there was a shooting in l a this uh this morning
Starting point is 00:02:43 So, you know, thoughts and prayers and all that. And, hey, people fix your gun control down there. But otherwise, you know, on a more positive note, to everyone celebrating, have a great and safe day today. Yeah, but Mike, our first UFC pay-per-view of the year, I agree. I think it was pretty good. We got a full 15 fights, which really didn't turn out to be that much of a drag. I think, you know, we got the usual deal where because there's so many fights,
Starting point is 00:03:10 they ran through all the prelims in really good fashion. and we had a lot of finishes there, so it felt it felt like a run. Obviously, you hit the main card, you know, then you get back to sort of, you know, that paper view pacing and that happens. But other than that, well-paced, good action, some new names, some new, yeah, dare we say, new stars, new contenders, who knows? This business is so crazy. You go from being the top prospect one second to being a never, a never was within 18 months.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And we saw people on this card who have sort of had been on that. roller coaster and so we got a little bit of everything i think so uh i'm excited man i'm excited i'm excited i just talk about the fights talk about new champions and uh yeah real i real i think tone setter for uh for the rest of the year this this might not go down as like the most memorable card of the year you know when we when we get to uh we get to our year end awards and all that but it i feel like it's set at tone for some of the really really really massive fights that we're going to see in in 2023 completely agree with everything you just said uh someone said happy birthday, Mike. We're not going to flip this whole happy birthday thing on me.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I will say by the time when we do this show after UFC 284, that will actually ring true because that will actually be my birthday after the Volcanovsky-Machachev card. So stay tuned for that. But here's how this is going to work. I see some people asking questions about how this is all going to play out in terms of the peeps. So we're going to go through the main card. We're going to matchmake who we are going to matchmake for. if you have suggestions for the fights that we're actually talking about,
Starting point is 00:04:46 throw in the chat, we'll chuck them on the screen, and then we'll do our wild card picks, and then after that, for the final 10 or 15 minutes or so, we will open it up to the peeps. We'll throw some on the screen. We'll have a little lightning round like we typically do, and we will react to them in real time, and it'll be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:05:04 So we'll go probably for an hour. I'm still in New York, and it is my hope that I get out of here today, okay? is my hope that I'm able to make it home, because this is going to be awful weather-wise this afternoon. From what I understand, where I live in South Carolina, it's going to be awful there as well. So hopefully, fingers crossed, we're able to get back to South Carolina later on tonight.
Starting point is 00:05:23 But let's get into this thing. Jamal Hill, aka the light-heavyweight champion of the world. The results... He's the light-heavy champion of the UFC. Okay, we'll get into that in a minute. We'll get into that in a minute. He's the UFC light-heavyweight champion of the world. We both went.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So like we talked about, the results, all of it. Saying those words into a live headphone microphone, not shocking. We all thought Jamal Hill could win this fight. He was the betting favorite all week and through most of the build. But just the way he did it, pitch an absolute gem out there, sweeping the cards, all three judges scored at 5044. It probably should have been a lot worse on the scorecards than 5044, but that's neither here nor there. But sweet dreams wins the title.
Starting point is 00:06:07 We have a new light heavyweight champion. It took two paper views to do it, but we have a new champion, and he will go down as the final opponent of the game, incredibly tough, former champion and all-around great guy Glover Tashara. And this division, A.K., despite having a champion right now, it is still a hot mess with Yuri Prahashka on the sidelines with an injury. We have contenders who are out there. We don't really know what's going to happen here.
Starting point is 00:06:36 and Prahashka reacted to the fight and Prakashka-like waves in the snow just saying, I'm coming, Jamal, I'm coming. So what do we do here with Yuri Prahashka on the shelf? Do we hope that Yeri just has magical healing powers and can come back faster than anybody else with an injury like this? Or are we going to have to play a little bit more safely,
Starting point is 00:07:00 get another contender in there, and then hope Yuri's ready after that? Yeah, look, in a perfect world, Erie is right about his most optimistic projections for his injury recovery. And yeah, we can book him to fight Jamal Hill sometime in the next six months. But, you know, if only to really bring order back to this division. Because while it's nice to have an official UFC champion, listen, everyone knows the circumstances around which this fight was put together.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I don't know if anyone can seriously argue that he's necessarily better than, you know, Jan Blovich from Meghameneke-Kaliyev. I would think, well, maybe before, maybe after tonight, it might be different. But heading into tonight, if you had matched up Jamal Hill with either of those guys, you know, last year, Jamal Hill would have been a plus 300 underdogs. So the title, having the title, putting on a performance like that against Glover, definitely might change things. I think we're going to see it.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I can't wait to see who he fights next, so I'm on Jamal Hill, what the odds are. Because, yeah, I wonder how much this one win changes how much people thought of him. Because we've always been high in Jamal Hill. I think even after like, you know, the Paul Craig loss, we were all like, listen, this doesn't, this doesn't, this in no way like spoils his chances of becoming a future contender or a future champion because on that night, listen, Paul Craig was just a better fighter. And Paul Craig is very good. I know after yesterday, two fight losing streak, Paul Craig's really good. So him beating Jamal Hill was a credit to Paul Craig. I don't think it said anything bad about Jamal Hill skills. And look where Jamal Hill is now. You know, he's winning a UFC title in the main event. And Paul Craig is losing in the main card opener. So he's, he's, he's, he's, he's bounced back really nicely. I did want to say something about Jamal's character. I just, it was really, really tough to watch. Obviously, I'm a fan of Glover, so really, really tough to watch him lose to Jamal.
Starting point is 00:08:46 This is, by the way, not speaking objectively, and this is not talking about anything about Jamal's fighting skills. Just Jamal recently following the Dana White, you know, New Year's Eve incident where he struck his wife, just completely embarrassed himself on social media with this insane. over the top defense of Dana White. Even this was after Dana had said, please don't defend me the first time in the TMZ interview. He still did it.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I mean, Jamal Hill still did it. It went off on when it's okay for men to hit women. And, you know, listen, people can present all these extreme cases like, oh, well, what if someone was about to, like, press a button that blows up the world? You wouldn't hit a woman then? Like, those hypotheticals and these discussions are so pointless. And I think we all know what we mean when we say a man should. and hit a woman. We all know, except for people like Jamal Hill, apparently. He has no concept
Starting point is 00:09:36 of it. He's a frigging-pound human being with combat skills, and I guess he'd be okay with striking a woman if she shoved him. So that whole thing was disgusting to me. He's not to leave the tweets. If anyone wants to know what I'm talking about, go check Jamal Hill's social media. He did, he went on this rant weeks before he was about to fight for the UFC title. So if he's going to apologize for it, I'd love to see that. I think there's a lot of atonement that has to be done to rehab this guy's image. But again, this is speaking personally. If we're just talking about performance-wise,
Starting point is 00:10:07 that was an outstanding challenger performance. That was, I would not have picked Jamal Hill to win by decision. I said he could totally knock Glover out in the first round, second round. You know, he's just, there's the age gap. He's such a talented guy. I had picked Glover, but I said, if Jamal Hill knocks him out, wouldn't surprise me. Jamal Hill winning a commanding, dominant decision,
Starting point is 00:10:32 that surprised me. That really, really surprised me. So putting aside my, you know, whatever personal, how I feel about his character, and by the way, I'm never going to put that aside completely. It's probably going to come up every time we talk about Joel going forward. I don't know if he could have fought better. The takedown defense was on point, the striking, the timing, the combinations.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Just outstanding. He looked like a top five light heavyweight, which when the rankings come around this week, well, we'll see. We still have some math to do, but very likely, obviously, he's the UFC champion now. He beat a guy who was our consensus number two,
Starting point is 00:11:07 light heavyweight before retiring. I think you guys can guess that he's at least going to be top five. How high? Again, you'll see when the rankings come out. Mike, I don't know how to say. I just go on that little rant, but I had said the... I had said, what I had said?
Starting point is 00:11:21 Oh, yes. Jan Blokovitch and Magelman Ankelaev need to rematch and I wanted that whoever wins that to get the winner of this fight so I'm sticking with that it's not booked yet but I have to I can't see why they wouldn't book yon and mockomet to anytime soon the winner of that Jamal Hill there's your first title defense it's an incredible performance it reminded me of Cody Garbrands went over Dominic Cruz in a in a higher way class it just came out of nowhere and it's not again it wasn't surprising to Jamal Hill won it was just surprising how he did. It was by far his best performance. Glover was too tough for his own good.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Fight probably should have been stopped a round before, but we also didn't know that Glover is just going to flat at retire afterwards, and then Glover takes him down and mounts him in the fifth round, and it was just still, Glover took us on an emotional roller coaster ride, and Jawalho looked great. He showed a lot. He answered a lot of questions. It seemed like the Tiago Santos fight and the Paul Craig fight, those performances were going to stick at our minds every time Glover got this fight to the ground, but Jamal did the damn thing. And he had very little pressure on him.
Starting point is 00:12:31 He just went into enemy territory as ended up being the favorite. But even if he lost because of how this division is right now, he was only like a winner two away from getting right back. So he was as close to house money as it could possibly be. But man, did he deliver? This was an incredible performance from Jamal Hill. I'm very intrigued to see how he,
Starting point is 00:12:54 matches up with some of these other guys because he just went out there and he beat the hell out of Glover-Teshirea. But he also took a lot of damage in this fight. He didn't speak to the media at the post-fight presser. Like it was dominant. It probably was like a 50-43, 50-42 in some cases if you want to go that far. But he might be out for a little bit. And I think if we get to late May into June and the prognosis on Yuri is positive in any way, Like, if there's a chance you can return end of the summer, early fall-ish, if it's possible, then I think the UFC will just hold off and do Hill versus Yuri. And I think Yuri is just the kind of cat who can defy the odds and heal at, like, Tony Ferguson-like levels.
Starting point is 00:13:44 So that's what I'm going to go with here. I'm not really confident. I do think Anthony Smith might be the favorite, only because he was the backup. I know he didn't make weight, but I honestly could not care. less about that. And I just feel like of all the names available, if we're talking about who's the more known commodity, a guy who's already fought for the belt, Anthony's kind of on the back nine himself in a lot of respects, and he's very well respected. So I feel like if they're going to give Anthony Smith the title shot, you kind of have to do it now, because
Starting point is 00:14:13 if you chuck Anthony in there with Ancolaif again or somebody like that, I have a hard time believing that it's going to go very well for him. And at the same token, Jabal Hill was supposed to by Anthony Smith in the first place on March 11. So the story's already there. They already have poster drafts ready to go with those two guys, I'm sure. So it's easy from a marketing perspective. So yeah, I don't know. Does Anthony Smith deserve a title shot over some of these other guys?
Starting point is 00:14:38 No. But has that mattered in the past? Absolutely not. Anthony Smith was the backup fighter for this fight, whether you think he deserves a title shot or not. You guys need to understand. This isn't Bellator. We don't live in a meritocratic world in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:14:53 We have it in a very long time. Do you remember the conversation we were having before Leon Edwards and Kamara Usman was official for UFC 286? We were talking about Jorge Mazadol getting a title shot. And Anthony Smith at this point is equally as deserving or more deserving of a title shot right now than Jorge Mazadol is. So let's just put that out there if we're talking meritocratic world. So this division is intriguing in some ways. But like I said, it is a. absolute dumpster fire right now because we just don't know what's going to happen with yuri on the shelf
Starting point is 00:15:28 it just makes things a whole lot more difficult so i don't know what they're going to do so i'm going to my official pick will be yury later this year but who the hell knows what's going to happen so go over to share okay retires at the end and i don't think it was all that surprising but what a career this guy had and the good news is he will be around the sport for a very long time as a coach he's obviously the one of the main training partners and coaches of alex beheda who is the middleweight champion of the world i have i talked about this last night on the post fight show i have been a ring announcer for many new england mma cards and glover de chero was at a whole bunch of them if not all of them cornering six to eight guys in every card and just
Starting point is 00:16:15 winning every single one of them so he's going to be around the sport coaching and being in corners for multiple generations. What's your reaction to Glovercher, calling it a career? I'm glad he did. I'm glad he did. This was a bit of a, one of the things that brought the score down for Saturday's card was that,
Starting point is 00:16:37 and I'm trying to speak sort of from the perspective of the fans in the building. They were robbed of a few like really, of a few like feel good moments. Obviously they would have to seek over win the main events, Davis is Figaredo losing the series with Brandon Moreno now down you know two one to one for Moreno and then saying on the moving up to Bantonway like it it would have been cool if you had won and still moved up to Bandaway and it would have been such a triumphant moment like I've done everything I can I've cleaned out flyweight I'm on to new things instead you know the the news of moving up to Bantway it's got kind of a muted response and then of course Shogun with losing such a pointless matchup so it was it was a real bummer for people and I wish you could see uh on the broadcast, I know a lot of people were commenting on it. Man, why it looked like there's so many empty seats. It looked like really everyone, it just wasn't packed for the retirement of one of the best light heavyweights we've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:17:28 And I think that's true. I assume I guess people, I had heard a few things that some of the cheap seats were a little too expensive for people. So, you know, those seats didn't get filled. And also people had left. They were not happy with the Moreno figurato result. That might have been a handful of people. And then because the main event was so clearly, Jamal Hill winning, they're very, might have people heading to the stands like it was, you know, the Red Sox, Mike, getting knocked out, you know, 16 to 2 by the Toronto Blue Jays, something like that.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Just to bring up a random example, you know, people were probably... Or the Boston Celtics without Jason Tatum beating the Toronto Raptors or without Marcus Fart. Too soon. Or Robert Williams, the third last night. Just wanted to throw that out there. My guys are down. My guys are down. I shouldn't have pulled that card.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah, too soon, buddy. I forgot. I forgot about that already. I tried to blank down my mind. I shouldn't have pulled that card. But yeah, it did, whatever the reason, I did look like we didn't have a full house because, and you could hear it. You could hear everything. You could hear on the broadcast.
Starting point is 00:18:28 You could see it in the broadcast. It just, the moment just didn't feel as big as it should have. But blessed Glover, you know, he made the most of it. Retired in a classy way. Loved him saying, listen, me and Jamal, we're going to walk out together. He saw what happened with Moreno. The crowd getting really agitated, throwing stuff from Moreno as they ran him out of the out of the arena. And then, you know, Cleaver's like, I'm walking out with Jamal.
Starting point is 00:18:50 So you were not going to be throwing stuff at him. So that was such a classy move, really good stuff from Glover. So, you know, the moment itself was great. Hopefully we can look back on it a little more fondly, you know, considering the fight was such a bummer for Glover fans. If you're Jamal Hill fan, you're probably frigging out through the roof right now. You had a great time for Glover fans. You know, definitely a bit sad.
Starting point is 00:19:10 And the way it went too. So one-sided. Probably could have been stopped earlier. I thought the fourth, I thought the fourth round. I would have had no problem at this. corner, didn't let him out for the fifth. But listen, everything ends badly. Otherwise, it wouldn't end.
Starting point is 00:19:22 So hopefully this is the last time we see Glover fight. If it is, nothing to be ashamed of, went the distance with a outstanding performance by Jamal Hill. And I'm glad, like what you said, Michael, we'll be seeing him. We'll be seeing him around. We'll be seeing him around. 100%. And just take it all.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Like, this is my, this is what I want. Like, let Jamal Hill just kind of chill. let him receive his flowers, if you will, let him enjoy the fact that he won the belt. And then let's just hope Yuriuri can come back sometime this year. And then just do Jamal Hill versus Yuri Perashka and just let the rest of this crazy division work itself up.
Starting point is 00:20:03 That's what I want to see. But the UFC sometimes, they'll book cards with like three title fights or multiple cards of two title fights. And then we get to a point we're like, okay, now what are we going to do to fill this card? And oh, yeah, we have Jamal Hill. He hasn't fought in five or six months.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Who can we throw them in there against? Oh, this is too soon, this is too soon. And you know Anthony Smith's not going to say no to any kind of a fight. So, yeah, that's why I'm saying it. It's not my pick. My pick is Juri if they can do it. But again, it's all about timing and it's all about how this all works out. So happy trails to go over to Chera.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Well done. Classy on the way out. And yeah, emotional moment for Jamal Hill. Good night for him. He looked fantastic. It's the matcha or the three ensemble Cado Cephora of the Fates that I've been denichie, who energize
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Starting point is 00:21:45 finishes Davis and Figurato, third round TKO, Dr. Stoppage, nasty cut on the eye of Davis and Figurato. Watching live during the watch party with G.C. and Jose and Frank and everybody else, I thought Moreno won all three rounds. The three judges all gave Moreno one and three. They all gave Figgy round two. One judge actually gave Moreno a 10-8 and a third, but either way, great win for Moreno. He looked fantastic. The Safe Sayyud and the All-Star coaching staff clearly put together a brilliant game plan
Starting point is 00:22:16 that Moreno stuck to. We stay patient through a lot of it. And to me, I think he officially closed the book on this rivalry. Don't even think this one warrants a Friends Forever AK. I think this is a MMA community forever pick. It's Moreno versus Pantosia. Alex Pants finally gets his title shot.
Starting point is 00:22:34 He deserves it. They already had a little backstage run-in. It was all kind of respectful. Brandon Marino thought it got a little aggressive back there, but in the end, this is the fight to make, is it not? Yeah, we can't sing Friends forever. This is just obvious. If this has been in the makings for so long,
Starting point is 00:22:49 Pantoja got slightly derailed by the Lost Ascarov. But again, it wouldn't have made a difference because the Marino Figuigi, you know, feud was in full force at that time. If anything, it just gave Pantosia time to sort of rebuild that clear number one contender status, constantly reminding us of his history with Moreno. beat him on the ultimate fighter, beat him in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:23:10 That's a win if you're Moreno, just for your pride, you've got to want to get back. Plus, it's a sellable fight. So, yeah, no friends forever. Easy pick. This is like, you know, we say we don't get points for Beltor picks. I don't even think we get a point from Marino Pantosia. I'm sure everyone is on this train. So we'll share, you know, we'll share in the joy of the matchup being made together.
Starting point is 00:23:28 But sorry, everyone. I think the Otno Vault stays closed for this matchup. So I don't think we need to, we need to. to pat ourselves in the back too much. But yeah, great performance by Moreno. I still think, honestly, if these guys run it back every year,
Starting point is 00:23:42 they would just trade wins and losses or draws or they're so evenly matched. I loved that fight. I know this was pretty, this was not quite as lopsided as the second marino fight that Marino won. It was still a clear Marino win even before the stoppage.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I had him up all three rounds. And the judges had at 29, 28, if I'm not mistaken. But Figgie had some great moments, too. some of the grappling exchanges, they're striking. It's just beautiful. These are the two best fly weights in the UFC and two of the three best in the world. I would love for them to fight again in the future and a catchweight, whatever works. I don't want this to end.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I want to see them fight again. Give it a year, give it 18 months, give it two years. I still want to see them fight again. I just love watching these two guys go at it. It's like a few years down the line, both guys are ready to move on into another career or into coaching and they don't want to fight anymore. And it's just like, all right, we each have one more fight left. Just do it one more time just for the hell of it because I would watch the crap out of it.
Starting point is 00:24:43 But it was just even though Moreno looked so good, yeah, Figgie had some moments for sure. It was just the kind of perfect ending to at least the championship rivalry. It's wild. So it seems like Moreno is pretty easy. The more interesting one right now is Davis and Figueroa, K, because while this book of this rivalry ends for the flyway title, a new chapter of the Davis and Figurato biography will be written because he's moving up to 135.
Starting point is 00:25:15 He'd be teasing it for a while, confirmed it after the fight. I thought he was going to retire because he had the gloves, looked like he was going to put him down, and then he just took the gloves off to say, I'm retiring from 125, I'm just moving up to 135. There's so many fun fights for him at Bannamweight. What's the one you landed on? Because this is so interesting.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I saw a lot of people, I think, on social media. And I haven't looked, I haven't taken a good look at the picks that it was sent directly to us, Mike. But I saw a lot of people saying Dominic Cruz, which, I mean, initially, my was like, I was like, no. Because I just think Figuerado is just a huge favorite at this point. You know, Cruz still got some moves. He'll be the bigger guy presents matchup problems to Figgy for sure. I just think at this stage of their careers, though, Figgy's going to catch him with something and just put him down and I you know it's a sellable fight if you're just trying to find what's the most
Starting point is 00:26:06 marketable fight for him sure give figgy Cruz in his first fight I don't know if Cruz is interested in that but okay I understand the appeal behind it I understand why the UFC would do it's not like it's not like a crazy thing that said I went a little bit further down I'm like okay well I can't go too far outside the top 10 this guy's friggin again arguably he's at least the third best flyweight in the world and again on any given night the number one flyweight in the world he's that good so I I want him to immediately be in a relevant fight. So I'm going like,
Starting point is 00:26:39 Corey Sanhagen, win, lose, or draw against Marlon Vera. Okay, we know those two are fighting February 18th at the UFC Apex. If Marlon Vera wins, I mean, he should get a title shot. That's just, he does not need to fight anyone else. Corey Sanhagen, I don't know if they'll be in a rush to give him a title shot again. He's got that defendant of loss to Aljo. He fought for the interim title. He did do them a solid, which is nice.
Starting point is 00:27:02 I just think he does need. to do a little more work more than more than Cheeto does. So I'm going to, so I am going to lean towards San Hagan have a no fight one more time, no matter what happens. And I think him and Figgie would be a really, really fun matchup. Again, listen, Cora presents a lot of the same problems as Dominic, but younger. But that to me is, that's why I want to see. I think it's a more competitive fight than the Figgie cruise bout.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Give me Figgie San Hagan, regardless of how San Hagan's next fight goes. Yeah, I mean, it's not a friend's for a moment, but it could be. And someone, I pulled somebody's comment up because they're a bunch. This is like the most popular one amongst the chat right now of matchmaking. But again, Figgi versus anybody in the top 15, Fingi versus some of the guys like in the top 20 to 25 are super fun and compelling fights. And we're seeing this band and weight division kind of get put together right now because we have Adrian Yannas versus Rob Fon.
Starting point is 00:28:00 We just found out Marab de Walsh, Billy, and Pieterian are going to fight. Chito Vera, Corey Sanhagan are going to fight. We found out Chris Gutierrez is fighting, who's he fight, Pedro Munoz, Jonathan Martinez has a big fight coming up against, I believe he's fighting Saeed and Maghamedoff. We got Umar out there who's just running through people. The band of which there's a rumored fight right now between Ricky Simone and Songu Deng. So like now there's what we're putting this all together.
Starting point is 00:28:26 But I landed on the loser of the Marlon Vera, Corey Sanhagan fight. Whoever loses that fight, Chuck Figgie in there. I want to see the answer to any of these questions should be Marlon Vera. Like, Marlon Vera should be, like, when Henry Sohudo was going to come back, I've been saying from minute one, go fight Cheeto Vera, you beat Cheeto Vera, then you can go fight for the belt. You'll not, you beat Cheeto Vera, you get no complaints from me. I'm just that high on that guy, and you prove something if you can survive a fight and beat that man, especially at this stage in his career.
Starting point is 00:28:58 So there's not a lot of ways to go wrong here, but I'll go with the loser. of Sanhagen Vera and I think it's time for him to move up, stop the crazy weight cut. I'm happy to see that he's doing that. And I'm excited to see what he looks like at 135 and some of the potential matchups that he could have. It's going to be wild. So yeah. It just keeps getting better.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Like, it just keeps getting better. Bantamate is so ridiculous. We're adding Davidson figurado to the Bantamweight division. That's insane. If you're, I have to, if, if all Joe keeps defending the title, I have to, I have to, to bump him up the pound for pound because this is like this this is the most insane division i still think it's the best i know again lightweight will always be great and uh i i i really feel like bantamweight has kind of past it like it's how and and narrowly i mean it's any any given night
Starting point is 00:29:48 you could watch a a card full of great lightweight fights a card full of great bantamweight fights a card stacked with both but bantamweight's definitely up there i mean if anyone who's still hanging on to like jed msue that lightweight is clearly the the best division in all of ms i'm like bantameter something right up there, man. Absolutely. I feel like Gilbert Burns his performance with everything that happened last night. It kind of, it's flying a little bit under the radar. And I don't know why, because he just went out and he shut down Neil Magne.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Neil just had nothing for Doreno, and maybe it's, I think the result is kind of what we expected, but just knowing Neil Magne in a lot of his fights, we thought this would be a little bit more competitive, but Doreenio went out, flawless victory, he doesn't get paid by the hour. and depending on what happens at UFC 286 right now, A.K., Gilbert's knocking on the door of a second title fight. He calls out Colby Covington. Again, I get it. I just feel like calling out Colby at this point, if you're anybody, unless your Hamza Atchamaya makes very little sense to me. Because I think there were better options here. I think the Mazadol rub is in play. They've been building this up for months.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Trash talk interviews back and forth. We still have Edwards Usman to come. Things need to sort of play itself out. And I feel like the Mazadol rub was in play, and that's there. And I think it's a fight Mazdaal would take. I thought Bilal Mohammed was a great call it as well, considering how the media day went and what Gilbert had been saying, building up to the fight.
Starting point is 00:31:27 So I thought Bilal would have been a great call it as well. And to spoil my pick, Burns versus Muhammad is my pick. That is what I'm going with at this stage. But what did you think of the call-out? And if you liked him shooting the shot for Colby Covington, what did you think of that? And if you did like it, is that where you're going with here?
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah, I love it. It's straight into the point. Does it greatly increase his chances of getting that fight? I don't know. I don't know. Colby does seem like he's at that point where he can pick his opponent when he wants to. I think he's made a good amount of money in the UFC with whatever, you know, advertising deals he has.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I think he's made money. I think, you know, I've often criticized him, his persona, the persona he chose to take on. But whether it's because of that or just because he's a damn good fighter who, you know, has put together winning streak and beaten really big names, he has kept himself relevant and I assume kept himself pretty well compensated. So he just doesn't need to take fights with guys like Gilbert Burns if he doesn't have to. I am picking that fight totally a magic wand pick. it is not what I expect to be next
Starting point is 00:32:32 this is just if I was the matchmakers if I could somehow you know if I could if I could pay Colby Compton enough to fight anyone right now Gilbert Burns would be the choice I just don't know if that's the way to go but yeah no issue with a callout I rarely have issue with callouts that are
Starting point is 00:32:48 you know extravagance or over the top unless it's like something completely crazy like some guy made his debut and it's like and it's like oh I want to like I want to fight you know so or I say someone was like I want to fight Valenciennes Shofchenko after one fight. Then I might be like, why are you doing this? But for Burns to sort of be aware that he's not, it wouldn't be crazy if he got a title fight,
Starting point is 00:33:11 but I think he's sort of reading the tea leaves and just seeing like, okay, maybe I'm not next. These guys got to take care of their business first. Let's get a fight that is arguably as big a money fight as you can get outside of a title fight with Colby Cumberton. So good call out. Is he going to get it? I doubt it. I would make it happen if I could.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah. I don't dislike the call it. I just don't think it's going to happen. That's my issue. Gilbert, to put it in perspective, I think Gilbert was in a better spot to call a Colby than Bolal has been, if that makes sense. But we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:33:46 We just don't know what's happening with Colby at this point. So I feel like calling him out is just kind of nonsensical at this point because we don't know when and if he's even going to fight at this point. Like he hasn't really said or done anything since. the alleged incident in Miami Beach with him and Mazadol. Like, it's been almost a year since you've heard from him at all. Very uncharacteristic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Very uncharacteristic. So, yeah, I'm not really sure what's going to happen here. But to me, I just feel Burns versus Bilal, it's like right there, true number one contender fight. And if Leon Edwards ends up beating Kamara Usen again, like, it's clear. Winner that fight gets the title shot, we're good to go. one thing we didn't really learn this last night a k but it just continued to rain true just gondrage is a freaking monster she just showed it again last night she just trucked loren
Starting point is 00:34:39 murphy and the leg kicks early it was just so painful to watch because i don't think anybody saw that coming her just tree trunk in loren murphy over and over again with leg kicks and loren to her credit this ended up being to her down detriment, but I actually thought this is what made this fight so interesting. Lawrence is so damn tough and durable. And at this point, she was too damn tough for own good. And her quarter should have stopped this fight for the third round. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I know it's her husband, and I know she's been around these guys for a while, and she trusts them. And she listens to them at the end of the day. And you want to go out there and go on your shield. I get that as a fighter. But this was a one-sided, vicious beat down. This was 10-8 across the board. It was just bad. It was tough to watch.
Starting point is 00:35:26 and I was just hoping somebody would step in and stop this fight. Didn't happen. That's neither here nor there. Let's give Androge her flowers for this performance. Major player at 125, major player at 115. This fight was at flyweight. She keeps saying, I'm going to go to straw weight. And then she ends up booking a fight at flyweight.
Starting point is 00:35:42 So we don't know what the hell is she going to do. Lots of options in both divisions. Where are we going with this, AK? Should we ban her? Should we ban? Just go, Andrage, should we give her the Kevin Hall and Banhammer for jumping? It's harder for her because, there was a lot of benefit to banning Kevin Holland from the show
Starting point is 00:35:59 because he wasn't like in the title picture and like so it was even one he was willing to fight anybody I was Jessica Androges too but it was a wider range where Kevin Holland was when he was doing this and he beat Jacqueray but he was still like I don't know could fight anyone like the top 20 And then he kept jumping between divisions and we're like it's so unpredictable We're just we're just banning him until he stops taking short notice fights every like two seconds So I don't think Jessica Andrade is quite in that territory yet I do think there are some obvious matchups but yeah It is a bit difficult to figure out, is it going to be 125?
Starting point is 00:36:29 Is it going to be 115? She's a top five fighter in both divisions, top three maybe. She's so frigging good. I'm going to stick with flyweight just because that's normally what I do. Unless it's like something weird where a fighter jumped up for a one-time thing and clearly they're returning to their division, then I'm going to continue booking in the division they just fought in. This is the situation we don't have with Andrage where if she goes to flyway, she goes to strawway. she's winning fights in both, beating contenders in both.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So with beating contenders in mind, this sucks because this woman, the last time she fought and won, I sort of said, just saw her in there with Valentina. But as we know, Valentina is going, like is going to fight Alex de Grasso next with a date still to be finalized. But she does have her next held offense. So Valentina now is off the board for the foreseeable future, which means now, Fero, I think, has to fight again before getting a shot at Chauchenko. Fero is a great fighter.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I don't think she has the kind of pull to just sit and wait for the winner of Grasso Shevchenko and get that title fight. She has to stay busy. Could she fight someone lower ranked? Yes, that's certainly a possibility. But I think people would want to see. She has sort of said herself that she wasn't sure if she's like ready to fight for the title. know she did she she she she wants to everyone at 125 wants to once you hit that top 10 but she
Starting point is 00:37:54 didn't like make this all and all call out like yes i'm next for valentina like this has to happen there's just that little bit of doubt there and i think because of that people would like to see her fight again and fight a top name if she beats jessica andrash no doubt number one contender then you beat jessica andrash then you can sit out for six months seven months eight months nine months until valentina's ready you deserve a title shot no matter what nothing else you have to do as it is she still has work to do jessica andrash i think needs an important opponent at 125, assuming she doesn't go back down immediately. And I, uh, and now Firo, she's, uh, she's drawn that straw, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I just, I have to pull this, this up because I looked at it last night and I totally forgot about it. Um, what am I doing here? Is there a rumor, is there a rumor fero about that I'm not aware of? No, there isn't. Uh, I'll figure this out in a second, but Aaron Bronsetter tweeted this out 12 hours ago, AK. I don't know if you saw this or not, but. Lord Murphy officially absorbed 161 significant head strikes in her loss to just gone drudge. Now, to put this in perspective, AK, to put this all in perspective, that's what I'm looking for. Do you remember it was a fight, it was kind of a compelling one, might be one of the greatest fights of all time.
Starting point is 00:39:10 John Wee Lee fought Ioanni on J-Chek for the first time. Do you remember that fight? To put this in perspective, vaguely, those two women absorbed a combined, 192 significant head strikes over five rounds. So Lauren Murphy, in this loss of just Gondrage, absorbed just 31 less strikes and over three rounds than Zhang Wei Li and Yohanna and Jacek absorbed combined over five rounds after that first fight.
Starting point is 00:39:39 That is insane. That is insane. That is an insane stat. That's even higher than the live stats. I tweeted, I was like, I was like 140. The live stats, unofficial stats on screen, they throw up 148 head strikes. So to know that it was even more, which I believe, by the way, I, 148 seemed low.
Starting point is 00:39:59 So to know now that it actually cracked the 160 mark is just scary. And Lauren Murphy, super, super tough. We cannot laud her toughest enough. We do it all the time. Anytime she has a fight book, anytime we're predicting how a fight's going to go. Toughness is probably like the first thing that comes up. We're talking about Lauren Murphy.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Not to take away from how much she's improved in other areas. She's always had that toughness. And at 125, it's just been an absolute tank. And I was someone who, Mike, you had said she'd probably be able to, you know, drag this one to the later rounds. And I think you thought she'd do a little bit better. I thought she was going to get knocked out the way the, early, the way the fight was going. I thought I was for sure correct.
Starting point is 00:40:35 So credit to her for being tough, but big finger of shame to her corner for not. I don't know if they weren't considering it. But just based on what we saw on the broadcast, did not seem to be something that came to their minds. to even stop the fight. And we say this all the time. Of course, fighters don't want it stopped. I'm sure if they'd even asked her straight up,
Starting point is 00:40:56 she would have said, hell no, I'm going back in there. Just let me give me that last five minutes. Just let me fight my fight. Let me have my shot. But it's the corner's job to know better to protect their fighters.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And by the way, I almost give no, I go very little blame to referee Osiris Maya, who, to put it nicely, is not one of the best referees in the world. There's a reason he kind of only does the Brazil events. But I don't blame him,
Starting point is 00:41:18 because based on what he's seeing, he's seeing Lauren Hill is, Lauren Hill. I love that. I look Lauren Howell. Anyway, Lauren Murphy, Lauren Murphy is there. She's in the pocket.
Starting point is 00:41:30 She's getting battered. Yes, she's not getting knocked down. She's not turtling up. She is throwing back. All of us watching concedes, you know, she's getting straight up, you know, smoked. It's not effective. But if you're the referee,
Starting point is 00:41:43 if he had stopped it, no complaints. I think everyone would have been completely fine with it. But I really don't blame him because in my mind, she was doing the bare minimum enough to stay in the fight. It's her corner who has to, I think, go above and beyond and say, well, regardless of how she looks in there, we know our fighter. We should know she's probably not coming back from this. She's not going to land a Hail Mary shot. She has no history of it. That's just not how Lauren Murphy wins fights.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And we should put a stop to this. So I understand people being mad at the referee, call this in like a whatever, Herb Dean, Iblevin. uh, Steve Mazagati, you know, Yamasaki situation, whatever. But I think in this case, Osir's Maya did okay. Um, he could have stopped it, but him not stopping. It isn't like the worst thing. This was on the corner. The corner has got to do something there.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Yeah, I would say Andrage's performance was too good to be true. I couldn't take my eyes off of you. It was just an incredible performance. And just to, just look at the stats. Andrade, 61 of 107 significant strikes in round one. 75 of 121 in round 2, 95 of 141 in round 3, AK. That's just wild. I mean, just statistically a shocker.
Starting point is 00:42:58 But this is what we're doing here. And I thought about this, and I didn't know what I was going to do. And then Drake was on the watch party, and he just threw out all the different, like, puzzle pieces that this could go. And it seemed like all scrambled, but when he was done talking, I was like, there's only one fight to make. And this makes all the sense in the world. and it can have impact on both divisions if need be. They could certainly do Jean-Wei-Lie versus Jessica Andrade's for the Strathaway title. They could do Zhang Wei-Lie versus Rose Domitunis for the Strath-White title.
Starting point is 00:43:28 They could do Zhang-Wili versus Amanda Lemoche for the Strawe-Wite title. If I'm the matchmaker right now, I'm doing the latter. I'm doing John-Waley versus Amanda Lemosch. Let's get a fresh face in there at 115. And in the meantime, whether they do it at. 115 or they do it at 125. Let's just do Androge versus Namayunis 3. Let's close this chapter.
Starting point is 00:43:55 If Androge wins, she can go fight Zhang Wei Li. If Rose wins, she can go fight Zhang Wei Li. Or if this fight happens at 125 and Rose, who's been teasing a move to 125, beats Jessica Androge at 125, she can fight Zhang or fight Valentina Shipchenko. Because you know if Rose Namuonis goes up to 125 and wins one fight. She's jumping everybody else and getting a title shot. So for better for worse, whether you agree with me or not, 115, 125 doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Andraj, Nami Unis 3, title implications. That's the fight to make. I'm with you. That's what should happen. I still think Nama Junis is going to stroll back into a Zhang trilogy bout. It's very possible. The UFC just loves giving her title shots and his story's there 100%. So main card opened up.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Johnny Walker did kind of Johnny Walker things. He, I don't know. We were talking about this on the post-flight show. Was this Johnny Walker being fun Johnny Walker again? Or was this Johnny Walker getting the benefit of fighting Paul Craig, who's just kind of a wild man? I think it's more of the latter, but still, it's nice to see Johnny go out there, get a big finish and have a moment in Brazil. So what do we do with Johnny Walker right now? Is he back?
Starting point is 00:45:06 Is he fun Johnny Walker officially back, or do you still have questions? I think this is a Johnny Walker we haven't seen before. I think, listen, we were very critical of the move to SPG and what that did. to his once lovely free-flowing fighting style. But maybe he just needed time to find the balance. You know, you change teams and you lose your form. You know, you have to do this new thing. And theoretically, it was supposed to help him win fights.
Starting point is 00:45:30 It didn't do great in that regard for a while. He has beaten two back-to-back Wildman now. You want Kutalaba and Paul Craig. I would not call them the most defensively responsible fighters. So, you know, beating them doesn't make him like a superstar again or anything. But it does restore some confidence that he can be that finisher that had us so excited about him at light heavyweight. You know, when he started with the UFC and had people talking about him as a challenger to John Jones. Google the people.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Google Johnny Walker, John Jones. This was a thing at the time. Would he be able to fight his way to bones and maybe even be a guy to spoil the run? He was a very compelling challenger. And he could be again. He could be again. He still has a lot more work to do. I like him to fight, or is my thoughts on this?
Starting point is 00:46:19 If I had a magic wand, Mike, I would say Rockich. I'd say, you know, Rockich heals up. You know, you know he wants to come back in 2023 and make a statement, him and Johnny Walker, great fight. But it was last May that Rockich got injured. I don't know if he's going to be on the shelf a whole year. If that is the case, best case narrow, that's another four-month wait for Johnny Walker.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And like we said, Johnny Walker's building a lot of steam. He probably wants to stay busy. I don't know if you would want to wait for Rockich. Plus, it's a tough matchup. Why wait for someone that's very likely going to beat your ass? So I lean towards Anthony Smith. I actually kind of like everything you said at the top, Mike, about Anthony Smith. You know, being in the championship picture, he was literally one banana peel away from fighting for the title on Saturday night.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Right. So it's not crazy that he could be in a title fight in 2023. But I don't know if he gets to just turn that reserve spot into an automatic title shot. So I think he has work to do. He matches up really well with Johnny Walker. I think that's like a pick-um. I think that a really, really good fight for both guys. And whoever wins that one, then you're really talking about them.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Anthony Smith, again, could maybe get a title fight based on his history. Walker beats Anthony Smith. He's maybe won away from getting back to getting to an actual title shot, which had been, you know, we talked about, but he's never really come close to. Maybe it actually happens for him. And he can, he can continue with Destiny trying to be the next, the Brazilian Brandon Vera. Because I don't remember him talking about, like, wanting to be headway champion before. but I'm thinking about now
Starting point is 00:47:43 his arc is so Brandon Vera like right now with the exciting finishes early on, faltering against some more notable names, coming back with some big wins, and then always talk, and now if I talk about becoming a two-division champion, light, heavyweight heavyweight. So New Age Brandon Vera, I salute you and whatever's next, whether there's Anthony
Starting point is 00:47:59 Smith or someone else. I'm actually looking forward to Johnny Walker fights again, Mike. It's weird to think about, and you don't get a lot of second chances in this life, AK, because they I think in hindsight, if the UFC could do it all over again with Johnny Walker, they would have not booked him with Corey Anderson
Starting point is 00:48:18 because that was just horrible matchmaking, especially so early in his career. It was just, and it just crushed any momentum he had. And then he had to go back to the drawing board, suffered other losses. And then even like some of his wins on the comeback trail were just not fun and compelling.
Starting point is 00:48:35 They were just not Johnny Walker-esque. Last two fights were seeing signs of, fun Johnny Walker, he's kind of getting some of that mojo back. I understand the rackets suggestion. I understand the Anthony Smith suggestion. But again, we have a second chance here. I think we need to feed Johnny Walker, like fun-style fights, like competitive fights, fights he will grow from, but fights that will keep him going in this entertaining trajectory that we all fell in love with him for. And he may not like this,
Starting point is 00:49:13 and some of the people may not like this, but this is what I'm going with. Johnny Walker versus the winner of the April 15th matchup between Dustin Jacoby and Osamaa Mirzokhanov. Because they're just going to get in there and they're going to chuck them with Johnny. Like there, they ain't going to be a lot of scrambles.
Starting point is 00:49:30 They're just going to go in there and just chuck fire at this guy. And Johnny Walker will chuck them right back. And it's just going to be fun. So I'm going to go with that. He's just kind of in a tough spot right now because this division is, like we're like eight good months away from this division, like eveninging out a little bit. So, yeah, I like that fight.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I just good win for Johnny. He's building back up, but I don't want to throw me. Like, I would pick Anthony Smith to be Johnny Walker. I would pick Rackett to be Johnny Walker, like pretty confidently, just the way they fight stylistically, they're smart fighters. I feel like Johnny could finish them both, but I feel like you could put a game plan together and beat Johnny Walker and frustrate him.
Starting point is 00:50:19 But let's just keep building his confidence back up because they have something with him. He's got star potential. Let's just keep building the highlight real. Let's get him in there and fun, exciting fights. Jacobi, Mursa Kanoff, both those guys, craziness, absolutely craziness. Can you believe he hit the worm again?
Starting point is 00:50:35 Can you believe he's back doing the worm? That was sensational. Should he not, like, you know what? You know, he's incorrigible. He's incorrigible. The man wants to warm. Yeah. Hey, listen, I will take, if he wants to wear him great,
Starting point is 00:50:50 it's better than him, like, doing backflips off of cages and doing anything if you could really hurt himself. I'm okay with that. Boarding for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Ugh, what? Sounds like Ojo time. Play Ojo. Great idea. Feel the fun with all the latest slots and live.
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Starting point is 00:51:48 and we will make a fun fight for them now. I have a feeling we're both going to pick the same guy, but maybe I'm wrong, and I have a feeling you're going to hate my pick, AK, like just trash it, but that's okay. And then after this, get your picks ready, and we're just going to go rapid fire. wild card your your matchmaking suggestions across the board for the next 10 15 minutes will react to them so a k what's your wild card selection uh i want to we didn't talk about this but we both banned
Starting point is 00:52:17 ihor porteria right he was banned that was we unofficially banned one for for beating the legend just so badly beating the legend and then his post-fight antics this was i suppose this wasn't trending hashtag read the room ior because what are you doing You're in Rio. You just, you beat one of the most beloved fighters in every day history. You're doing this very confusing dance, which made it look, which he later explained. He, if anyone didn't see, he did like, I guess, a sort of an Olai, point the gun at Shogun. But I thought he did.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Did he not point an air gun at Shogun and go like, like, pop off at him? No, he pointed it and then he pointed it at him and then he put it up in the air, then shot. See, very confusing. Very, it looked like he was shooting a shot. his nickname is apparently the duelist. So he was saying like, oh, it's like when you, you know, you pistols at dawn, you know, it's like a duel. So I wasn't shooting at him.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I was shooting in the air almost as a sign of respect like we had a duel. And I'm like, that's not, that's too subtle. That's not coming across on live television, my man. You've got to know what's going on. He tries to do this like, I'm the, I'm next. I'm coming thing right after. And it's like, buddy, keep your speech short. Be humble.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Give the mic to Shogun and get out of there. if ajor beat portaria becomes the next big thing at 205 over the next year i apologize then because maybe this was the this promo was the beginning of something huge but just so poorly timed and not that well executed uh Tiago moises mike uh i just have one pick for him not patty pimblit that's that's i have an official i have someone to get to but i did want to touch on moises he called up patty pimlet great call out you're not getting that fight because everyone knows you would kill him and if you're the UFC, don't be dumb. Don't even think about making that match up.
Starting point is 00:54:05 There's ways to build up Patty Pimblit. Throwing him in there with Tiago Moises, not it. So Mike, I settled on Jelton, Almeida, will be in my top 10 at heavyweight when the new rankings come out. So I got to give him someone in the top 10 and the guy who's, I have him right behind, Alexander Volkov.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Let's make it. Okay. Okay. I like it. I do feel, I want to go back to Patty real quick because any time that name comes up. up we spent 45 minutes on him do it do it yeah this is the question i've gotten a million times do you feel like terrence mcicki versus patty pimblit do you feel like and we're a little while
Starting point is 00:54:43 away because patty's you know dealing some injuries and stuff do you feel like we are closer to that fight now than we were two days ago because i feel like if terence won they probably wouldn't have given him that fight um but the way that that fight played out and the brutal knockout that he suffered do you feel like the chances of them booking McKinney versus Pimblit are better now than they were earlier this week? I bet are they better? I would say maybe this. My first instinct was the same.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I did see people putting out that sentiment. I just don't know if it makes a lot of sense. The optics aren't great, I guess, because we know Terrence McKinney is dangerous and now he doesn't even have like the luster of, you know, should Patty beat him, then suddenly it's people are going to go like, Oh, this guy lost two of his last three fights.
Starting point is 00:55:32 So people who hate Patty are going to crap on the win anyway, even though we know Terrence McKinney's a good fighter. I mean, he lost to Ismail Bonfim, who the Bonfim brothers might be contenders in two divisions. We don't know. I know it's early to say, but they both look good before the UFC and had UFC debuts that you can only dream of. So I do think he's lost a little bit of his luster. So I'll lean towards it's not more likely. I don't think it really hurt the chances that much, but I don't think they wanted to make McKinney and Pimbled happen anyway.
Starting point is 00:56:00 So I don't think the chances were great going in, and they're just, they're slightly, I think they're slightly worse after Saturday. Fair enough. I am also going with Jelton Almeida. I'm so sorry, A.K. I'm so sorry. I need to see this man against a hammer.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I need to see him against somebody who is going to bring the fight to him, who is going to try to knock his head into the fourth row. And somebody who will get over big if he beats him and somebody that will help get Jelten Al-Meda over if he beats this person. And this, he is going to be a plus 2,000 underdog in this fight, but I have to do it. A.K. I apologize, but my wildcard selection
Starting point is 00:56:52 is Jailton Al-Meda versus Taito Ivasa. I got to see, I got to see what Jelton-Lamata does with somebody who's going to try to polarize him. Yeah. Yeah. I need and now you see it. I feel like, I feel like ties the guy to bring that out of him. Like if he's
Starting point is 00:57:12 going to face, if Jeltsin's going to face any adversity in this buildup to where he's going to go, I feel like Ty to Ivasa is going to give it to him. Like he's going to, we're going to get some questions. Now, is there a chance that Jelton Almeda will just run across the cage and tackle
Starting point is 00:57:30 tie two pasta and mount him and beat the hell out of him like he did last night sure that is a strong possibility but tie is sneaky good with his grappling and tie's going to punch him in the face and i want to see what happens when a guy like tytuivasa punches a guy like jails al-a in the face how will he react to that i have questions i still have questions i'm not ready to annoy jails that i'm made of the next heavyweight champion we have to build him right and i feel like to me as much as I feel bad about it because I feel like Jailton will win and we'll probably finish Tai Tuva at some point. I do need to see what he's like when he is potentially the nail and not the hammer because Ty's going to punch him in the face and Ty's going to be a tough out.
Starting point is 00:58:18 So yeah, that's what I went with. I'm not, I feel a little icky about it, AK, but that's my pick. I don't hate it that much from like, oh, if he runs through Ty, well, I feel bad about it. Look, and listen, Ty is playing with house money at this point. He's gone farther in the heavyweight division than a lot of people thought. I always thought he could, not, I shouldn't say always. Once he started, you know, once he snapped that three-fight losing streak, it started getting back up there with some fun performances. I was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Like, it's not, this is heavyweight. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Ty becomes the top five heavyweight. And he got the right matchups. He beats Derek Lewis becomes top five heavyweight. So is that his ceiling? It's quite possibly. And there's no shame in that. You know, to become one of the top five fighters in division at any point is a great achievement.
Starting point is 00:58:59 And Ty has done that. So I don't hate it that much. It's certainly a way for Jelton. He beats him. Then he takes a top five spot. My only question with your logic, Mike, is I don't know if Ty lands a punch on him. I think Ty is really good.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I don't know. I agree. If he hits Almeda, I'd like to see it tested. I could easily see this be a Thai lands less than five, if not zero significant strikes against Alameda and just gets bludgeon on the ground. That's how high I am in Almeida. He was outweighed. by 31 pounds on way and day.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And he picked Shamil Abdur Akimov up like a child and slammed him. There wasn't like a takedown. He dragged him down later. But the first takedown was a slam. And I'm like, this guy is, I thought Abdurakima had a chance to make it to a decision. And his defense wasn't bad. But not only does Almeida have this explosive power, man, he just puts it on you. That pressure is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:59:56 So I have no problem with the match, but I'm like, I could see it being made. I think I just went with someone coming off a win. That might have been the only difference. But we do have Tuivasa ranked higher than Volkov. So yeah, if you're looking higher up the rankings, Tuivasa, certainly reasonable. To be fair, Jeff Almeida could literally do that to anybody in this division. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:14 He could. There's a very good, there's a chance he can do that every single person. If we're basing matching up Almeida on like, well, oh, we shouldn't match him up with this person because he's going to crush them. Really, Charleston Almeida should never fight again because he's going to crush everyone. I honestly, it's early. in the year let me make an ass with myself now like you could put him in that gone john jones title fight like god you know cross your fingers nothing happens to that fight but if he was called up as
Starting point is 01:00:39 a replacement i would be one just as excited and i would give him a real real chance to beat either of those guys i'm that all in i'm that all in comments light me up roast me uh i i'm so all in on the gelton almedia experience uh yeah he needs to fight better competition for sure uh probably at least i'd like to see a couple of top him go to a couple of top ten guys but before he actually gets at that world title shot. But hey, throw him in there anytime. I'm watching. I'm watching and I'm picking him.
Starting point is 01:01:05 We need him active this year. We need him fighting a lot, three, four times. We've got to see this guy every quarter for sure. Let's build this. Let's build them up. So this is time. We'll go rapid fire next 10 minutes or so. We're just going to react to as many of these as we can.
Starting point is 01:01:18 So I see a lot of Elmada picks. Let's start with this one. Kind of up in the air because you don't know what's going on with this guy, but I got to tell you the second I saw it, I was like, oh, man. I don't know if it happens now, but it's going to happen someday, and it's going to be electric. Almeida versus Tommy Aspenol.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Gauda, man. Minus 250 Almeida. Probably right now, yeah. I don't mind the Jarzini fight either. That's very possible. Minus 450 Lameda. He's, yeah. Come on, keep going.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Oh, let me just remind people to send in their picture. I should pin this. Yes, let's do that. I'm going, send all caps, multiple excitation points, people. I've seen people sending in their pictures. throughout the show. Now is the time when we will read them. What else we got? Let's see. John Jones would exploit him. Walker. All right. Just go ahead. Daniel Marcos. Oh, here we got a lot of them. Christian Kenionez, Ismail Bonfine versus Mafrevola. I like that
Starting point is 01:02:17 fight. Bonfine versus Matrevna. Makes sense. Almeda versus Romanoff. One of the tougher matchups for Almeida. I mean, there you go. That that's one of the tougher matchups, I'll say. Almeida minus 500. I'll go minus like 300. I think it's higher than that. Bonfine versus Orion Kosey, Neil Magny versus Kevin. Do you like Neil Magny versus Kevin Holland? Yeah, I have no problem with that.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I'm trying to think if that would, yeah, and Kevin Hallin should want that fight too. Because we know Magnus weaknesses is submission specialists. It's just a fact at this point. That's not what Holland is. So yeah, fun matchup. That's a Co-Mane. That's a quality Co-Mane. A lot of Magny picks.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Magny versus Muslim Salikov. It's Muslim Salikov. I got to check. By the way, I'm doing some quick doo-do checks here, Mike. I just want to make sure. Again, I know they're coming in Fast and Furious. I know we're doing a live show today. We're going with the YouTube viewers who, you know, might not have the time to put as much thought in the pictures they like.
Starting point is 01:03:12 He is not. Yeah, just blame. Oh, yeah, yeah, people, just please. If you make any weird mistakes, like matching up teammates with one another or, like, put down a fighter who's already has a fight coming up or you get the wrong weight class. We're going to call doo-doo, live doo-do on this show. Someone's saying Magni versus Mazvedal. Masvedal is not, I don't think so he's not getting out of bed for that one. He's in this, he's just being super picky with fights now.
Starting point is 01:03:35 It should happen. It's just, it's just not going to. Another guy that deserves some flowers after his performance, and he deserved a bonus last night. No disaffected Jailton Almeida. We all are very high in this man, but he deserved a bonus over Jailton Almeida, in my opinion. Bruno Ferreira versus Mikhail Olegze-Chuk. I would have loved to, I actually did not even know what the bonus were until now. I knew the main event won the fight of the night.
Starting point is 01:03:59 they should have given out multiple performance bonuses what a shame that they just settled on oh let's just give the two performance bonuses this is your return to Rio and I know we've spoken about the crowd maybe the gate wasn't what they were hoping for but you probably still made money hand over fist in this one UFC give these guys there
Starting point is 01:04:17 they're extra 50 Gs if you're not going to again raise fighter pay and all that which that's a whole other discussion Ismail Ball and Feene versus Braddow Brad's taking some time off so yeah And I don't know if that's a tough one to come back to after we saw it happen. Ron, Ray, why do that?
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yeah, why do that? The Braddow says, I want some time off. And you say, let's throw him in there with a frigging stone cold killer in Ismail Bond theme. Figgy versus Song Yidong at 135. So you're probably seen the reports. Ricky Simone versus Songue dong. April 22nd, perhaps.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I'm told it's not completely done yet. That's what the UFC wants. we're told that we don't see a world where that doesn't happen, but it's not done yet, if that makes sense. It'll probably happen, but it's not done, done. Ricky Simone versus Song Yudong. So just throw on that out there.
Starting point is 01:05:16 What else do we got? What are you got? Selk off of some books. We know Burns versus Cutman Tate. What is that from? What is there some sort of beef there? What's, am I not aware of?
Starting point is 01:05:29 Oh, they just like, they mess around and they mess around each other. It's, it's fun little relationship. Al Mata versus the Sergei Spivak, Derek Lewis loser. I think Almeida is ahead of both of those guys right now. Like, I think it's a big step back for Almeida. Let's just, let's give this guy something in the top 10. That's strictly, if anything, you would give him the winner, you would give him Derek Lewis of, Derek Lewis, if wins that.
Starting point is 01:05:48 100%. Derek Lewis, unfortunately, is that guy who people, like, Sergey Pavlovich, Taito Ivasa, you kind of knock out Derek Lewis and you get to jump into the top five or whatever top six it would be however far you know Derek Lewis keeps getting knocked down the rankings so I understand the logic behind it I just yeah I think there's more more interesting that yours figgy versus Umar figgy versus Umar oh my god's a tough that's a tough that's hey welcome to 135 whiz uh where do I have umar umar is right now is just in just UFC not counting other promotions my number eight my number eight UFC bantam weights so he's in that range that I do
Starting point is 01:06:24 want to see Ficky fight, but boy, that is, I mean, I would, I would favor Umar on that one. I think a lot of people would. Figy versus, I believe this is probably Cody Garberant. Cody's fighting Julio Arcei. Yes, and I'm in the way.
Starting point is 01:06:37 If Cody wins. No. UFC would make it. So again, what if Cody looks spectacular? Name value. You know the UFC would be thinking about it. So not a bad suggestion at all.
Starting point is 01:06:49 It's kind of a back nine fight. Sure. Paul Craig versus Kennedy and Chuchuku. All Craig versus Kennedy and Zichukwu. Yeah, I mean, listen, Paul Craig, we say this, we keep saying wild man, wild card. It just feels like on any, he beat Magumann and Goliath. He beat Jamalil.
Starting point is 01:07:07 It feels like on his best night, even on his worst night, he can just like catch you with something. The guy is a finisher. And I don't know if that's conducive to him someday going on a run that leads to it like a title fight. But man, it creates a lot of fun fights. So, yeah, if he needs to take a little bit of a step back from the competition, he's been facing and Zuchuku is a good name. Okay, there's one person on the planet that wants to know what's going on at the ultra
Starting point is 01:07:32 fighter. Shrayan Shmishra asking, what's going on with tough? Well, I mean, the house is being used right now, but or sorry, was being, I guess I assume it's filmed. I know we don't want to talk about this. Is that, is that show already filmed and they're just showing? Yeah. They're showing, okay.
Starting point is 01:07:48 So we're, of course, I'm about power slap and it's being filmed in the tough house. So I guess that's one more reason for me to hate power slap. It probably delayed the next season of the Yilded Fighters. So no news on that front, guys. I don't know what the plan is. Again, they keep wanting to find the right coaches. I always say you should just get find two interesting coaches, regardless of whether they're going to fight or not.
Starting point is 01:08:09 But I don't know. It's not dead. It will never die. But as far as I know, I haven't heard about what's up with the next season. I'm going to pull up Alex McAdam's pick right now because I suggest this on the watch party last night. What about Alex McAddle? What's up? The Jack Della Madelena
Starting point is 01:08:26 Randy Brown winner versus Neil Magny. Very good. That's great matchmaking. You're friends forever with Alex McAdam at least for this, well maybe not friends forever.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Friends right now. Another Figy versus Cruz. Gabriel Bonfine versus Michael Morales. Golly, that's a fun fight. Gabriel Bonfeme versus Michael Morales. Michael Morales. I don't know if Morales is booked or not, but golly, that's a fun fight down the road.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Is it not? Hold on. Michael Morales. Am I confusing him with someone else? Michael Morales. Okay. Who am I thinking of? I was thinking of a middle.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Who am I thinking of? He's a Welter way. He is a Welterweight. Anyway, that's good. Mike, I think Mike Mallet. Isn't he? Mike Balat is a Welterweight.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Mike Belada is a Welterweight. Okay. Anyway, I'm getting confused with someone, I know. But anyway. But yeah, no, that is not bad at all. Michael Morales is a hell of a prospect. And I don't believe this early in their careers, the UFC careers,
Starting point is 01:09:22 I don't believe in necessarily protecting people unless you're like, you know, sure, oh, this guy's going to be a, you know, a championship contender with three wins. I don't know. Michael Morales is 23. So we still don't know what we have with some of these guys. Throw these young killers in there together
Starting point is 01:09:36 and let's see who emerges. I'm fine with that. Gabriel versus Jake Matthews. Some Gabriel Bonfeme love coming in. How can it not be? How can there not be? Another Michael Morales. What a debut by two brothers, eh, on the same card.
Starting point is 01:09:50 You know, most siblings, including them, I think, say they would rather not fight on the same card as their sibling. I remember, I remember Angela and Christian Lee said the same thing. They're like, it's cool, but gosh, it's just so nerve-wracking. But hey, when it goes like this, it's a night to remember forever, right? Cody Stamondon got back in the wind column versus Montel Jackson. I don't know if Cody's going to stick at Bannamway because of what he said last night. He said that the weight cut's killing him.
Starting point is 01:10:17 He wants to be able to enjoy being a fighter. weight cuts just brutal. It just kills him. And then he goes in and has to fight. So he thinks his future might be at 145, which, boy, he's going to be a small featherweight overall, especially with like the length and the height and the reach. He's already like such a detriment with the reach and all of that anyways.
Starting point is 01:10:37 And all of his fights, he was, I think he had like a 10-inch reach disadvantage last night. Something crazy. Yeah, you could see it. Yeah. But he looked good. He looked good. But, I mean, Stan Montel Jackson is a great fight.
Starting point is 01:10:49 he wants to stay at 35. Yeah. I liked it. Yeah. And he said he caught, what, arrived in Brazil and Sunday. He said he arrived in Brazil and Sunday. I cut 22 pounds during the week.
Starting point is 01:10:56 I know guys do crazy weight cuts all the time, but it's always, it still hits me every time someone actually like, it just flat out says, yeah, this is how much I cut like 22 pounds in six days. It's just insane. So if he can avoid that, that'd be great.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Maybe he's one of those guys has a second life just by moving up in division. Yeah, size-wise is going to be some problems. He's not Alexander Volcanovokinowski. I mean, not even just skill-wise, but physically, people always forget, Volkanowski has weirdly long arms.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Like, I don't know. It doesn't like always come off on TV, but if you look at like Volkanowski's reach, he had like a reach advantage over Max Holloway, which seems impossible, but he did in all in all their fights. So Katie's Cody Stamen does not have that his little gift. But you can only benefit from not cutting weight. So there's winnable fights up there. How far he can go?
Starting point is 01:11:39 I don't know. But, you know, if he's just trying to make some money for the next five, six years of his fighting career, maybe that's the easiest way to do it. Burns versus the loser. of Edwards Usman 3. I would love to see him fight Edwards someday and to fight Usman again someday. So yeah, whatever has to make
Starting point is 01:11:55 that happen. If it's not, you know, again, if it's not a title fight, fine. I'd love to see him in Usman again. And I would think most people, people tell me in the comments, would you favor Gilbert Burns over Leon? You know what? Mike, I'm throwing up a pole. I'm throwing up a poll. I don't know. People listening to this on podcast forum later. I will
Starting point is 01:12:13 let you, I'll try to remember to read out the results. But I'm throwing up Future Fight to look out for Shopcott versus Bond theme He's laying it out Not today, but not now You don't get an odd no point for that
Starting point is 01:12:27 If it comes to fruition Because we don't predict that far into the future But something we can look out for Greg Rodriguez versus Joaquin Buckley, AK Greg, Greg Cop versus I'm sorry, is Greg for Zook? Buckley Buckley
Starting point is 01:12:43 Buckley, I like that fight Listen, these guys are in the fun 185 fun section, excuse me, the 185 pound division. Could Griguerre Rodriguez or Joaquin Buckley or some of the other guys just like, you know, eventually put together the three or four fight win streak and fall ass backwards and their title shot?
Starting point is 01:13:03 Sure. If that happens, great. Gravy, happy for him. If it never happens, keep throwing them in there and just have them chuck hands and giving us highlights. Yeah, I like that. Is Munoz fighting somebody already? Otherwise, Munoz is Fugierrez.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Moorneux is fighting Chris Gutierrez. So maybe Figgi versus the winner. that would work. Dobby versus Barbarina. Sure. Have you never been booked? I have them literally right next to each other in my rankings.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Has that never been even booked? I don't think so, right? Yeah, I don't know. I'm so natural since that's such a logical two guys have been around. I mean, Dalby's had some trouble getting in the cage, but yeah, yeah, make that happen.
Starting point is 01:13:43 That's a good, like, crystal ball pick. That's like, if that was booked some, like, next week, I'd be like, yeah, sounds right. no mazadol should not get a shout up burns cut the BS out i mean you must be a newer fan and i'm not saying that to like i mean just the way because this is the ufc there is no deserves there's no meritocracy there is no the rankings are just there for posters because none of this matters none of this matters mazadol could masadol we're talking about mazal if kamar ozman
Starting point is 01:14:19 had the hand injury, we know who the first phone call would have been for Leon Edwards. It would not have been Gilbert Burns. It would not have been Belal Muhammad. It would not have been Hamza-Shimaev. It would have been Jorge Mazadol, ladies and gentlemen. Whether you like it or not,
Starting point is 01:14:34 it's about this. It's what it's about at the end of the day. This isn't FAL. This is the UFC. Can you grab Jay Blomstedt? Jay Blomstead comment here. I'll read it out while you look forward. How long until Alex P.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Oh, sorry, no, there's another one. It's a later one, more recent. How long until Alex P moves up to 205? Can I pick him versus Jamal Hill next? That won't be soon. But hey, listen, if both guys managed string together one or two title defenses, Alex B, go up there because I think he'd be favored against Jamal Hill,
Starting point is 01:15:08 depending how Jamal Hill looks, if he does defend this title and beats a Pro Hachka, beats Ancalaia, beats a, you know, Blackovitz. It's going to change a lot of fuels. It's going to really upgrade peels of opinions of Jamal Hill. So yeah, it could happen in the future. I think that would actually be a cool fight. Or even down the road, if things change,
Starting point is 01:15:26 and Alex P is no longer the middleweight champion and Jamal Hill's no longer the light heavyweight champion. Maybe Alex P goes up and fights him anyway. It's a cool matchup and definitely one one you would talk about after Hill's performance on Saturday. So I kind of like that. Give me Almeda versus Christakis, man. Minus 800.
Starting point is 01:15:41 More. Higher. Higher. What was he? Oh, yeah, because he was like minus 1,000, I think, against, was he against him, Eric Kim up, according to Tampal,
Starting point is 01:15:49 minus 1,100 according to topology. So, that's a tough one. Bruno Ferrer versus Calvin Gasolome, AK. Oh,
Starting point is 01:15:58 wow. I'm good with it. I'm good with it. I don't think he'll do it, but if they booked it, I like it. Can you pull that up again? Do you still have that handy?
Starting point is 01:16:11 Can you pull that up again? Is it lost to comment? Lost to him. I just want to give him credit. Show some love to who came up with that. Jay, Jay Blomstead. Jay Blomsted again with another killer.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Yeah. Yeah. There is. Calvin, sweet. Calvin cannot pick opponents. And he knows that at this point. He just, he needs to get in there and fight someone.
Starting point is 01:16:31 So it doesn't matter. Is it a guy in his first UFC fight, second UFC fight, 14th UFC fight, Calvin Gaslam, if he's still serious about competing and, you know, being a notable name in that middleweight,
Starting point is 01:16:43 he has to fight someone. And it would be great, actually, to go against a guy who, looked very impressive, but it's relatively inexperienced. So I like it. That's good thinking. That's good thing. I usually don't go for those like, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:56 super veteran guys versus guys who won first, second, third fight, but it's middleweight. Middleweight is just funky, man. This is an interesting one from Ashutosh Bhashai. This could be a thing. This could be a thing, especially with how
Starting point is 01:17:14 last night played out. Of course, we have to see how things shape out March 4th, but I think we're all fairly confident that it will go the way that everyone believes it will. So here we go. Greg Cop Rodriguez versus Bo Nickel. Bo Nickel is scheduled to fight Jamie Pickett March 4th at UFC 285. Should Bo Nickle do what many are predicting he will do?
Starting point is 01:17:40 Do we just throw them right in there with Greg Rodriguez? I love it. For me, it's you fast track Bo Nickle as much as you can. Hope, you know, best case scenario for him and the UFC, you know, wanting to push him is he just runs through Jamie Pickett. He's going to be, have there been any odds for that fight? There has to be. I'm just going to take a quick glance. Someone must have posted some odds.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Just going off of quick Google search. Okay, I see it the first thing I see is minus 1,800. That's almost, I mean, I guess that's where you have to set it or whatever picket is. I don't know what he is. Probably plus in similar range, like 11. That's where you have to set it to give people even a chance of betting on Jamie Pickett. And I don't even know if I would take that.
Starting point is 01:18:25 That's how big people are on Bo Nicol. And again, if you've seen his MMA performances, and of course, he had a little wrestling career before that you might have heard of. He just really looks like the real deal. And sure, you could say, well, let's get him five, six, seven, eight, MMA fights before we talk about it. But if he's ready to go now, he's ready to go now. You cannot discount that elite of the elite level wrestling experience.
Starting point is 01:18:48 had. That is combat sports experience. It's not MMA. That is combat, but that is combat sports experience, and he's got it. So Gregor Rodriguez, totally in the cards. I think he'd be massively favored, depending how the picket fight went goes, could be even higher than he was against picket. That's how, like, elite
Starting point is 01:19:04 a prospect, Bonickle is. I'm into it. As a fan of Greg Cop, maybe not, I'm not so much into it, but we're just talking about, you know, what's good for the business? Could be the one. Yes. just to put into context
Starting point is 01:19:19 how people are viewing Bo Nickel right now. Future line on Bo Nickel versus Hamza Tchamayev. Hamza Chimayev is only a minus 300 favorite against Bo Tickle, which is wild. That's crazy. Wild to think about. John Ray, I like this one.
Starting point is 01:19:35 I actually think this makes a ton of sense. Paul Craig versus Dominic Reyes. He says we won't have to worry about Reyes getting K-Oed. You might still have to worry. I mean, if we're going to trot, if we're going to trot Reyes back out there, I kind of feel like that's the only fight we can do. Yeah, it's a very good match. It's a very good match.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Yeah, it's, it's, if he gets, if by some chance he gets caught by like a Paul Craig haymaker and get knocked up by Paul Craig, then you really know it's over. If he gets submitted by Paul Craig, whatever. So a lot of great fighters get submitted by Paul Craig. No shame in that, you know, Dominic Reyes, Reyes can still get back in the lab, maybe think about continue fighting. If he gets knocked out on the feet by Dominic Reyes. Forget that.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Blanchfield versus Murphy. Are we calling this up for do-do purposes, Mike? I think we are. Blancheville is fighting Tilos Santos. Come on, Andre. In February. Come on, Andre. Maybe he's just, maybe he's predicting the future.
Starting point is 01:20:33 I don't know. Or maybe it's a winner-lose. Win or lose, Blancher-Bet's stone. You've got to clarify. People, you got to let us know that you know, if you're going to pick a fighter as a fight book, you got to let us know that they got a fight. Bobby Green versus Izzy Bonfame. Bobby Green is also booked.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Bobby Green is fighting. This is new, newish. Jared Gore. I don't care. Thank you. Oh, we're in the doo-do portion of the show, I see. Okay, great, great. This is kind of interesting.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Lauren Murphy versus Molly McCann. Luke Palmer. I like that one. Luke Palmer, thank you. Now you are, now you are getting it. You've got us back on track. Murphy versus Molly McCann. Great match up.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Listen, we always talk about Lauren Murphy's toughness. We do the same thing with Molly McCann. We talk about her toughness. So something's got to give or at the very least you're getting a three-round, a three round brawl. So that's fun. Luckily says moving out of Welthway. Oh, this is true. This is true.
Starting point is 01:21:21 No, that's right. I heard it. He said it on, I think on an IG live. I don't know if he's done, if he, like, put that post up.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Sorry, made that into a formal Instagram post. I should have checked that. Until he moves down, I still think it's fair to match him up with middle weights. But yeah, Walterweight is sort of where he should have been.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Yeah, there's no replay of it. He did mention on an IG live. That's what I'm saying. But until he moves down, where he should be, 170. I'm okay with it.
Starting point is 01:21:47 people calling out in the late fights. That's not due to. Bon Vim versus Kutadalate. Man, that's a big step up. But it's a fight I would want to see. Like Bonfine, I think Bonfim is a real deal. And I'm very high in Qatat de Late, so. Josani Nunes versus Jermaine Durandami.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Listen, Josie, if, if I've died, Josie in my, in my, believe it, I, like, I keep women's featherweight rankings. Does that show? Did that disturb you? Listen, I'm going to give the fan to treat. My rankings are normally a secret. I'm going to do a favor, Mike.
Starting point is 01:22:23 I'm going to read out my entire women's featherweight rankings. That's right. I'm reading out the whole list. It's a worldwide exclusive. I'll give you the 45 seconds to do it. Number eight, Danielle Wolfe. And by the, Leah Letson was in there, and she just retired apparently. So this seems to be a list of nine people.
Starting point is 01:22:41 This list had nine people once. Number eight, Daniel Wolf. Number seven, just lost. Zara Farron. Number six, Eileen Perez. These three fighters, by the way, have no U.S. wins combined. Number five, Chelsea Chandler, probably dropping a bantam weight. Number four, Jocelyn Edwards, who has fought a bantamette. I think she's recently fought at 1.45. Number three, top three women's feather
Starting point is 01:23:01 weights in the world. Norma Dumont. Number two, Josie Ann Nunes and number one, of course, the Tampa Man of Nunes. So we're this close to Nunes on Nunes. We're this close, Mike. To go by my rankings, I fight should happen tomorrow. unbelievable T-Rex versus Dakar close Bonfine versus Tony Ferguson okay Oh Luke Palmer now you've lost
Starting point is 01:23:28 We were getting along so well Why would you do I talk about experience all the time But I just think like man These bomb fiend brothers are frigging dangerous And I don't want to see Tony get in there And get smashed by one of them That's not fun
Starting point is 01:23:42 That's not a good time You're not a good time Who's normally demand fighting She just got booked, didn't she? Yes, she did. Don't tell. Carol Hosa. There you go.
Starting point is 01:23:54 There you go. John Ray, just put it up. Nunes versus the Dumont Hosa winner. Sure. Whatever. HK's list sounds might as well be a made-for-TV hallmark lead actress list, and I'm pretty clear. Jay Blomsted, very true, very funny.
Starting point is 01:24:11 He's killed. Listen, people in the comments, they don't even know if half those names I said are real. Like, I could have honestly made up half of those names, and people wouldn't know. That's pretty funny. Romanov versus Abdulahimov. Romano. I actually liked that fight for Romanov because if he doesn't, if he doesn't get Shamil out in the first round, how will he respond? Because we just saw in the Marchion-Tibor.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Like, Romanov is going to 10-8 pretty much everybody he fights in the first round. It doesn't matter who you are. maybe not Jelten Almeida and some of the upper tier guys, but most of the guys that realistically he could fight, he's going to 10 to 8 his opponent in the first. But if he can't get him out of there, he just, he fades. He just completely fades.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Should have Drew akema, not just retire at this point? I know that's a mean thing to say. It's a rude thing to say. Should he not just retire? He hasn't won a fight since 2019. He's been fighting good guys. It's not like he's getting washed by, you know, non-ranked people.
Starting point is 01:25:12 But it's tough. He's, uh, he just turned 41. I don't know. But it's also heavyweight. If you took 41 at heavyweight, you can probably compete for another like seven years. All right. We'll take a couple more. Magny versus Tony Ferguson. I don't hate that. I don't hate that.
Starting point is 01:25:28 We've been talking about Tony making a formal move to 170, like an actual move to 170 for a long time. We used to throw out Mike when we were first doing the show like Ferguson Woodley. We're like, oh, that's a fun fight. So Ferguson Magny, that's not bad. I don't mind that. Mike, let me read the results of the poll real quick. Mike we pulled 100 people and the survey says
Starting point is 01:25:50 who would win who would you favor Leon Edwards was Gilbert's Gilbert matchup Leon Edwards 56%. So I may have been overstating Yeah I mean for me I'm like A lot of recency bias I just saw Burns run through a guy
Starting point is 01:26:02 So now I'm going like oh well Burns is what would beat him But I do I do think that our viewers are right on YouTube I think that when the If this fight got made Leon's like minus 170, minus 180. I do think he would be favorite. I'll take a minute due to stream for Burking.
Starting point is 01:26:18 No, I'm in the hotel lobby. I'm in New York. I'm supposed to fly home today. So I have to give you something. I got to do it from somewhere and it's either this or out in the street and it's too cold outside. Dolby versus Jeremiah Wells, interesting. Von Feemeen versus Fokritinoff. Sure.
Starting point is 01:26:35 How soon as AK doing Almeida versus Pavlovich? That's one crazy five minutes. I mean, it's going to happen probably. But these guys are, these guys both have, I don't know if it's going to happen. title they both have a lot of fights ahead of them the only thing that's going to stop it is if almeda does kind of run through the heavyweight division does not get matched up with palovich along the way and then just drops back down to 205 that's really the only situation but otherwise if he stays in heavyweight i mean these guys are going to cross pass eventually and that's that's a
Starting point is 01:26:59 really cool fight yeah speaking of reading the room pavitch probably learn how to read the room better when he post things on social media because that was just awful and ridiculous i didn't see it i don't what is this something we shouldn't we shouldn't uh like you can go you can go check for a So he might have deleted it, I don't know, but this is a big talking point yesterday. Gosh, okay, I missed that. It's pretty wild. And you'd always pick over for, yeah, he pulled it up. You guys saw his tweet, right?
Starting point is 01:27:29 Yeah, if you can go find it after the show. You can hit me up on Slack and give me your thoughts on it. It's pretty, it's pretty ridiculous. So I think we're done. I think we're done. All right. We've had a hell of a show. A heck of a show, one would say.
Starting point is 01:27:44 And some amazing, like, viewer, live viewer suggestions. Great job, guys. For everyone who sent in DMs, don't worry, I'll try to respond to you guys. Always appreciate, always appreciate the DMs. I know you guys want those Otno points, but, you know, post-paper-view Sundays are for the live crowd. So, yeah, thank you everyone who tuned in and for everyone who's going to listen to this later on the podcast network. You know what I might do? Like, you might, like, because there's no UFC card next week, right?
Starting point is 01:28:09 So maybe we'll just go through the DMs next week. Listener special? I mean, just do what's their special. Sure. We'll make up for it. We're going to need things to talk about and stuff. Because we got to get ready for February 4th, or should I say February 5th, when the UFC is back with just.
Starting point is 01:28:27 In prime time. In prime time, Mike. 1 a.m. Eastern main card, headlined by Derek Lewis versus Sergei Svevac. Bellator's on CBS. That is going to be, that is going to be an interesting night. That is going to be an interesting night. I'm just looking at that.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Oh, it's also the road to the UFC finals? I'll put this up. Where can I listen to a heck of a morning live? Twitter. M.A. Fighting Twitter Spaces. That's where you can listen to it live. All right, Brandon, only on Twitter spaces, but it's a great time. Jump in there if you can.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Even if you're at work, put it on when the boss isn't looking. And call in, call in. Bother Mike live. Morning Mike. Morning Mike, morning, Mike, is a whole other, is a whole other beast. Why the time change? Because this car was supposed to be in South Korea. And there was talks in.
Starting point is 01:29:15 rumors and innuendo about the Korean zombie possibly headlining that card against Giga-Chiccadze and then Korean zombie got injured and they built the reason they were doing that card was for him by all indications and once he was unable to compete they didn't feel the need to do the show there anymore because yeah they just couldn't sell an arena so they booked they basically shifted the card to Vegas and they're shifting the time to like primetime in South Korea, if that makes sense. Or just a better time for Asia in general, because we also, like I said,
Starting point is 01:29:53 have the road to UFC finals. And I guess for anyone who's, oh, top, oh, top no, I guess for anyone who's been keeping up with that overseas, probably a better time for them to watch the show. Plus, you got, you know, Doho Choi, Don, John. You've got fighters from that region on the main card. So, but my God help,
Starting point is 01:30:13 Derek Lilliv's and Sergey Spadback, having to drag their asses out there at, like, I don't even, as Vegas, I least. So I guess it's more like midnight 1am local time for them when the main event rolls around. That is. I don't think you're getting these guys their best is what I'm going to put this out there right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Twizzy Rich. I'll give you 10 seconds to throw a question up. That's like answer rule. Yeah. I saw your comment. I didn't put anything up. I don't believe this. This is classic.
Starting point is 01:30:37 The old, the old, oh, they're never going to read my question out. Yeah. I think everybody got pulled up at some point. And that's, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:46 And if I missed you, then I'm sorry. It's hard doing up 5,000 things I want some like 87 minutes of sleep. So we're done. Yeah. We'll give a second. You probably left. All right. Well, I'll do a long goodbye and then we'll get into.
Starting point is 01:30:59 So maybe we'll do something next week. You're not going to do the rundown for, oh no, we'll do it. We'll do it on the listener show. No, you know what? Let's give the people what they want. Let's give the people what they want. I mean, it's probably be a tough hang with the pronunciations, I'm sure. but I will help if I can.
Starting point is 01:31:17 I don't know who's this before. Let's pull up February 4th, which is the Go Home Show, which is the card that is essentially put together to promote the next pay-per-view. And this is what we're getting at 1 a.m. Eastern, the main card. Derek Lewis versus Sergei Spivak, Daun Jung, Devin Clark, your co-main event. Tibora Ivanov, feature about the return of Korean Superboy, Du Ho-Choi versus Kyle Nelson. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Saku Konashita versus Adam Fugitz. So five-fight main card, I could deal with that. And then we have the Road to the UFC Final Fight. We have Anjul, Jubilee versus Jaka, Saragi, Jaii versus Jiang Yong-Yong-Yang Li, Rinyan Nakamura versus Toshiyomi, Kazama, Hian-Sung Park versus Siyang-Gochoy, G. Jan Kim versus Mandy Boehm, Jonyong Park versus Dennis Hulian, and Tatsuro Taira, taking on Jesus Aguilar. There you go.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Tetsu or Tower, the sort of the unspoken, like, rookie the year candidate last year. Do we have some? Oh, Twizzy Rich. Mazel of Thompson, too. I think that's maybe why we didn't pull yours up because you're just, maybe you weren't doing 283 picks specifically. So usually we just skip over those because we're focusing on that.
Starting point is 01:32:36 But we got you up there, right? So we need to hell well. We're a show for the people. Twizzy Rich, we appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you, Twizzy Rich, and everyone to listen. And we should be, again, more for the people next weekend with the next show. Yes, that's what we're going to do.
Starting point is 01:32:48 So we appreciate you very much back next week on the podcast network. And then we'll be back live here following UFC 284 when Islam Makachep and Alexander Volcanowski battle out in the main event of the UFC's return to Perth, Western Australia. So appreciate you all very much. If you're watching live, you're the best, good on you. If you are listening after the fact, we appreciate that as well. And we'll see you next time right here on On On. to the next one. Always remember our big rule. Don't take
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