MMA Fighting - On To the Next One | Matches To Make After UFC 285

Episode Date: March 5, 2023

Where does Jon Jones go following his quick submission win to capture the UFC heavyweight title in the main event of UFC 285? While Jones' path seems pretty clear, what could be next for Ciryl Gane after falling short in his bid to win the title? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee will attempt to answer those questions and more from a matchmaking perspective. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for new flyweight champion Alexa Grasso and the now former champ Valentina Shevchenko — and if an immediate rematch is the way to go — Shavkat Rakhmonov following his nasty submission win over Geoff Neal, along with Mateusz Gamrot, Bo Nickal, and more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're alive, everybody. Welcome to a brand new edition of On to the Next One. We're live following a memorable UFC 285 events still in New York City. I have pretty much a capacity crowd around me. So if you hear background noise, it's because people want to hear me talk about UFC 285. That's not true. But we do have two brand new champions and John Jones and Alexa Grasso. An incredible main card.

So many storylines heading in. So many storylines heading out. Many questions were answered. A lot more conversation to be had after this card. And we'll have some good conversation right now from a matchmaking perspective because that's what the show is all about. But I am Mike Heck. Hang on by a thread with the voice. And that right next to me is my best friend, ladies and gentlemen.

Alexander Cayley. How are you, A.K. Did you enjoy the card last night? I enjoyed the card last night. I enjoyed Celtic FC beating St. Mirren 5'1 this more. 7 a.m. this morning I woke up to watch Celtic FC. Take care of business. My Canadian boy, Alster Johnson, almost getting his first goal.

It's coming. He's got, he caused an own goal. It's the same thing. Yes, last night's card was entertained. It's almost everything we could have hoped for from an action standpoint, from a storyline standpoint. One big reason I gave the card a 10 out of 10 as far as degree of difficulty. Not necessarily strength of lineup and degree of difficulty are not the same thing.

But it was a 10 out of 10 because a lot of stuff, I said there's a lot of potential for weirdness. And for the most part, we got that out of the way early on the card. Shout out to the world's most dangerous man, Cameron Simon. And after that, it was just like good entertaining fights, definitive finishes. Two very, very memorable championship ballots, probably for different reasons. So we really can't, I really can't complain. As a fan of MMA, I certainly can't complain. People know, I'm sure that people are thinking I might be sour that John Jones won.

I've said many times, but I'm not a fan of the man personally. But again, when I watch fighting, I don't really have favorites. There's certainly fighters I like. I mean, I really like Cilallon. But I'm just focusing on the result, focusing on the performance. And John Jones's comeback could not have been more impressive. And we'll be talking about that for a long. I feel like by the end of the year, depending if John Jones fights, whoever he fights next,

we'll talk about that. But whoever he fights next, how many times he fights in 2023, man, he's already off to an early start as like, you know, fighter of the year. People wait until you see the rankings show. We're going to have some discussion. Where does he sit in the heavyweight rankings right now? where does he sit in the, of course, almost more importantly, the pound for pound rankings.

This is just the main event I'm talking about, too. We could go fight by fight by fight, Mike, and probably have two or three things to say about probably the top 9, 10, 11 fights, and 12 even, really almost every fight. I think every fight has a little, has a bit of spice to it. So, yeah, great card. You know, not a 10 out of 10 on delivery, but, I mean, that's what, 9.5, 9.6,

it pretty much, you know, nailed triple Lindy in the air, nails the dismount. And I think everyone who paid, if you only, you know, if you're one of those people, you're only paying for, you know, a certain amount of cards a year. And this is the one, this is the one you picked. You're very, very happy with your purchase. I would agree.

I mean, there's just so many people down here. It's absolutely insane right now. So here's how this is going to work because it is very chaotic. We're going to talk about specific fights. If you have matchmaking suggestions for the specific main card fights that we're talking about, throw them in the chat. We'll chuck them up on screen. We'll get your thoughts on it.

And we'll do that fight by fight. Down towards the stretch, we'll do our wild card picks. And then we're going to open it up for the last 10 or 50 minutes or so for you guys to just spam a bunch of matchmaking ideas from either main card fighters who we didn't matchmaking for or prelim winners. However, we're going to do it. And then we'll just have a little bit of a free-for-all at the end. But John Jones is the heavyweight champion of the world, AK. He made it look so easy. He submits Cyril Gahn in just over two minutes.

First takedown. That led to another take down. One submission attempt led to another submission attempt. And then that was it. Immediate tap. John Jones is the champion, two minutes and four seconds. He is back, and now it appears he has done our job for us. He is on a collision course with Steve A. Mietich in July.

Is that what you believe happens here? Can I talk about John Jones' performance again a little bit more? Mike. Of course. Is that okay? Of course. You know what this fight reminded me of? I thought about it. You know, when we're on fight nights, we're pretty frantic.

You know, it's not really time to make proper takes or put things to perspective. Mike, this fight reminded me so much. Do you know what I'm going to say? Let me ask you. Did this fight remind you of anything? Did this fight remind me of anything? The way it played out just like moment by moment. Nothing like really came to mind as I was watching it.

The co-main event, I had more of a perspective of a fight to remind me of, but I'll talk about that later if you'd like. But what were you thinking and maybe try to persuade me and take your line of thought? So the official time for this stoppage was two minutes and four seconds into the first round. Oh, sorry, two minutes, yes, two minutes and four. The fight it reminded me of was two minutes and 14 seconds into the first round, also ending in the rear-nicket choke. Mike, this was supposed to be a huge test for John Jones,

coming back from three years away, moving up to heavyweight against a guy who is, we can all agree, is one of the three best heavyweights in the world. Maybe not after Saturday. I know there's a lot of people that are down on CEDL, but I still think CIL is great. I think that John Jones is just so much better, especially, at least on fight night. This fight was not, you know, the Titanic Clashes builds to be. It was more like Mickey Gall versus C.M. Punk. If you remember that, there was, it was pretty much like this.

CM Punk throws one punch, a wild haymaker that doesn't come close. Mickey Gall scouts it easily, takes him down, pummels them. I don't remember that fight lasting two minutes, but I've just, I had to look at it now. Pummels them and then finishes with a rear naked choke. And that's not a comparison that should be made. And we're talking about John Jones versus C.Lagan. But that is how easy John Jones made it look. He made C.D.L.G.O.G.N.

look like CM Punk. That is like, sorry, it's a different show. Rinnaker choke, guillotine choke. He made him look like seen punk. That is like the greatest compliment

and maybe the biggest insult I can make to Cyril. But it was like that. It was one kind of not great shot. The replay is going around obviously circling on social media like crazy. Not Silagan's best strike. I'm sure when he watches what he threw,

he's just going to be like, what the hell was I doing? But it's also, excuse me guys, it's also to John Jones's credit. We talk about his defensive skills. all the time. He's one of the best defensive fighters ever, maybe the best defensive fighter ever. And it's almost like not only does he has gone scouted, but his reflexes are just incredible.

One minute, this heads there, one minute, it's not, he's changing levels. He's going for a takedown. It's an unbelievable transition. And again, this is a guy who has not fought in three years. And for those instincts, to still be so sharp, it's just truly terrifying. Does that make sense, Mike? I didn't see that coming. I did not see that coming. But I appreciate what you had to say there. Yeah. People are saying in the comments, C.M. Gone.

Listen, I'm telling you, I like Cito. I like, I'm such a fan. I said it on Twitter after it loved how he handled himself in the loss. I love how he handles himself in wins. If this were, if this were a, who would I like to hang out with more contest? It'd be Cito gone 100 times more than John Jones any day of the week. But this isn't, unfortunately, this isn't who's the nicest guy contest. It's not who's, you know, who's the classiest person.

It's who's a better fighter. And John Jones looked, again, just looked unbelievably good. So for him, I'm kind of just going with company lines here, Mike. I was, and this will be a trend, I think, with most of my picks for this card. And look, Steve Miochich said on, in an interview at D.C., I'm getting the next tally shot. Dana White confirmed that the very next day. Dana White repeated it on Saturday. He said, we're never seeing France again.

Steve is next. Maybe not international fight week, but that is that sort of the targeted time, but it could be later. But yeah, there's other ways you go. There's other deserving heavyweights who should get a telethhot for sure. But this fight makes a lot of sense. Star power-wise, legacy-wise, it's another one of those fights that's been talked about for a long time with John Jones moving to heavyweight. So, yeah, UFC, that's what you're doing?

Jones, Depe, just makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah, I just don't think there's any other way to go. Cyril just looked super nervous when he came out. when he fought Derek Lewis, like he just had fun with it all. He had fun getting booed, all of it. He kind of trolled the Houston crowd. It was just loose as a goose all week. And I thought this was kind of an advantage for Cyril

because he just flew under the radar for this entire week. This is the John Jones show, and Cyril was just kind of riding shotgun on it. And, I mean, you could tell the second he made the walk to the Octagon that he was like, oh, boy, this is a different fight altogether. But we're going to get Jones versus Steepa, probably in July, be a massive fight. And I am heavily favoring John Jones to win. I believe the opening lines already have Jones as a minus 300 or something like that.

And I feel like that line could be much more, like much higher in the Jones factor by the time they make to walk the octagon. So yeah, we'll see what happens. And Stepe hasn't fought a long time either. It's been almost two years since he's fought. So he's going to be coming in off a long layoff as well. For Cyril Ga, that's where things get interesting. Because whether this, yes, you did. I was going to say, I was going to say, I still think Steve A is a decent challenge for John Jones.

But again, just because he can wrestle, right? We know Steve A can wrestle. That's so that he's not going to, it's not going to happen to him. But maybe it will just because, again, Jones is wrestling and offense and defense just on another level. But also just the athleticism. And like you said, Steve A also coming off a long gap. How many high level performances does he have left? I don't know.

But athleticism matters. And John Jones has. always been one of the most athletic fighters we've ever seen in MMA. He's what happens when you have a guy. I mean, look at his brothers. Your brothers played in the NFL. You know, when you have a guy with those genetics, and then you have him mix the martial arts at the level that he can,

that he's capable of. The results are going to be pretty good. So, yeah, minus 300 is low right now. If you're able to bet on now, people, I say get that minus 300 while you can because it's going to go, I think, minus 400, minus 450, even higher by the time that fight actually happens. Yeah, it'll be able to. be interesting to see. Like, if John does run him over, what will John say? Will he call Francis out?

If so, will the UFC make one more attempt to try to make that fight? Because I just don't know what else is going to get John up to get ready for a fight. Like, Steve is obviously one that'll get up for because Steve A's considered the greatest UFC heavyweight in a lot of people's eyes because he has the most title defenses in the longest ray. And so this one means something to John and his legacy, he understands the weight of this fight. But after that, like, I just don't know Curtis Blades will get him excited. I don't think Sergey Pavlitz is going to get him excited. I don't know if like the Ramonovs of the world, the Jailton-Al-Made is,

you're going to get him excited. But maybe they take one more shot of Francis. I don't know. But zero gone is interesting. And I was thinking about it and I didn't really know how to do it. And then like all of a sudden it hit me. I'm like, oh, this is so obvious. And a lot of people have commented on this already.

Whether this fight happens in Paris or maybe the UFC makes a second trip to the UK. and maybe this is a tough one to come back to. But I think Tommy Espinal, Tommy Espital, when he is ready to return, that's probably the fight in my eyes because, and I don't know, like if you want to start Tommy a little bit slower, I get it. But I would pick Tommy Asperol to win that fight right now. So I could certainly see that being the direction the UFC goes,

because it's kind of a win-win. Either Cyril bounces back, still get a good future ahead of him. And even if he loses to Tommy, Aspinall, he's not like out of it altogether because he's still pretty young, still a little green, still has a little more mileage left to go. But Tommy Aspinall has a big moment, beat Cyril gone. He's ready, man. And he shoots up the ladder real quick. So that's my pick. Main event of a fight night card, whether it's in Paris or in London, that's what I'm going with. Are you with me? Are we having a friend's for a moment right now? No, I went with the more obvious Curtis Blase, Sergey Pavlovich winner. It's going down April 22nd. Sergey Wade Wade in as an alternate for Friday. on a Friday, excuse me, for Saturday's fight. And, you know, so he's obviously right there in the mix. Curtis Blades, I want to believe he's in the mix with a win over Sergey, but it's hard to say because he's Curtis Blades.

And he's hit him and Benile Daryush and, I don't know, Arnold Allen. Like these are guys that's just a Bala Muhammad. I don't know. I don't know how many wins it's going to take for these guys. But if you're Sergey, at least you know you were underconsider. You're literally one banana peel slip away from fighting for the UFC title. So you're in there. And again, for Curtis Blades, he deserves a title shot.

I mean, he deserves it without fighting Sergey Pavlovich, but he's got to do. He's got to do. So I went the obvious way. Tom Absinol would have been my second choice for sure. As I was going down, the rankings, that's sort of the name that wasn't booked that I stopped on. He's, yeah, we're assuming he's ready to come back soon. Gone is a super, super tough fight. But I think, yeah, I don't think a loss sends either guy too far back.

They're both pretty young for heavy weights. And win or lose, again, if they want to and they can stay healthy, those are guys who they're going to compete. continue competing for the next five or six years. And it's heavyweight. They could compete for another decade if they wanted to. Not necessarily in the U.S.C. But somewhere. Sorry.

I see a lot of people saying like Stipey doesn't deserve it. So what? When is that? Yeah. Again, again, when does that matter? This isn't bellical. This is the word deserves around here. It's the biggest fight for John.

If you can't get Francis, this is the biggest fight that they can make right now for John Jones. It's the steep a fight. It just is. So there is no deserves. Where we're living in a world where if Leon Edwards beats Kamara Usman in 13 days and Jorge Mazadol beats Gilbert Burns a couple weeks after that, Jorge Mazadol is going to fight for the wealth away title. And we're going to, people are just going to go bananas about this.

So I'm telling you, don't worry about the word deserves. UFC's trying to make money. They've done very well with this formula. That's why Steve is getting this fight. So there you go. With Amex Platinum, $400 in annual credits for travel and dining means you not only satisfy your travel bug, but your taste buds too. That's the powerful backing of Amex.

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For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details. A.K. Alexa Grasso. She shocked a lot of people, and hand up, I was dead wrong about this fight. I was pretty spot on with a lot of things that did happen on this card, but this was one of the my worst takes on a fight maybe ever. I don't know if I'll ever have a worse take up and a

worst read on this fight on any other fight more than this one. Alexa Grasso is the champion. I was incredibly wrong. Stubborn Mike. Boston Mike doesn't admit that he's wrong all that often, but I'm admitting that I'm wrong here. You guys got receipts for days about this. Goes out, submits Valentina to Shevchenko. This one, we talked about this on the post-fight show. Valentina, all three judges scorecards. She's up 29-28. I thought she was winning. round four before the, and we're talking about flight comparisons, the Chris Wyden-esque moments where she threw the spinning kick and Alexa Grasso somehow, some way, was ready for that moment to happen and she jumped all over it.

Quick is a cat onto the back. Wasn't even really like a rear naked choke. It was like just a jaw crusher. Like it was just those pictures, man, are just so gnarly of Valentina's face all red. but right on the jawline it's just all white like it's absolutely insane. It was like upside down strawberry blooming

in the spring. Like it was just crazy to look at but man Alexa Grasso is the champion and this one seems kind of obvious AK but are we going right back to this? We go an immediate rematch or in your eyes will Alexa Grasso's

first title defense be against Aaron Blanchfield? Mike I think we can cue up the band. I think we're both calling for an immediate rematch. One, two, three, quick. Friends forever. Okay.

Yes, listen. It's a small one because this is the obvious pick. Some people are against immediate rematches in general. I know Jedmishu has a policy. Just can't stand to see them. But I'm with the mindset. If you defend your title four, five, six, seven times in a row and you're constantly being talked about as one of the pound for pound best, one of the greatest fighters of all time,

you're probably, you should merit a rematch if you want it, should you lose your your title. And this was a competitive fight. This fits all the criteria for why there should be a rematchez. I think it's marketable. I think it helps both fighters. If Grasso beats Shevchenko again, I mean, let's launch her into the stratosphere, especially if the fight happens

in Mexico City. If you're Shevchenko, I mean, it's obvious. You get another shot at your belt. You get a chance to sort of erase this loss. You get to answer sort of all these questions about, oh, is she passed her prime? Is she washed up? Is she just burnt out? So there's just so again, the fight was the fight was great.

It was if people didn't see the official score cards, it was 29, 28 Shepchenko going into the fourth round. I think if, obviously, if Grasso, even if she had been able to get the choke attempt in but not finish it, duh. I still think Shepchenko would have won that round. I don't think the ground fighting at the end was enough for Grasso to take it. I think Shepchenko had done enough damage on the feet in that round. I'll have to watch it again. but at the very worst, it would have been tied 38, 38

going into round 5 and then it would have been up for grabs. So super competitive fight. So we have a longstanding champion. We have a challenger who still has to prove herself or would love to prove herself again against said champion and we have a fight that was competitive and you can imagine would be competitive again if you booked them.

So it just makes too much sense not to do it. Mike, I will ask so much of the narrative for me into 285 revolved around whether John Jones, his struggles against, you know, Anthony, not struggles, his sort of just forgettable performances against Anthony Smith, Tiago Santos, Dominic Reyes, was because of disinterest or decline. I don't think, I don't think we can ask the question of disinterest for Valentina, but do we think she is declining?

She has been in this game for a long time. Sheen mentioned 20 years in the business. Started fighting like professionally when she was like 14 years old. and at some point the fighting the training just the the the cycle of this has to take its toll on you so she turns she's going to turn 35 in a few days uh is do we think do we think she is that there is a belmont the talus antos you know very close fight and of course not a loss on saturday is this a is a sign yeah because one is a fluke and two is a trend and she's been off the last two fights so So, yeah, look, Valentina, even without, Jed likes to use the baseball references, but even

Valentina without her fastball can beat pretty much anybody in this division. But what I learned probably the most from last night was that Aaron Blanchfield probably has a very good time against Valentin to Shipchenko. She probably does very well. And, yeah, there's, I mean, 20, like, if you listen to the post-fight show, Shaheen ran off, like, a list of names that Valentina Shepchenko made her MMA debut before, and that included names like Roxanne Amadafari, which is just insane to think about.

There were so many. And then Jed was adding other names, like Shogun made his MMA debut, like four months before Valentina made hers. Like, just some of the names that Valentina has debuted before is just insane. Jessica Pene was on this card. We consider, I think, one of the pioneers of women's M.A. in America.

She started fighting in 2006. Valentina was fighting three years before her, before a physical penny. It's just absolutely insane. But yeah, there's definitely father and mother time are undefeated for a reason. And look, Valentina, she can do very well being like a Greg Maddox type fighter. Sometimes you don't have your fastball. Sometimes you're not throwing 95 anymore. But it can be very effective throwing 88 and paint in those corners.

And Valentina can still compete. Like I said, I thought she was, it was round four is close. I thought Valentin was winning the round until that spin kick missed. So had she not thrown that spin kick, she could have been heading into round five, up three rounds to one, and we're not even having this conversation right now. But that's why you have the fights. And I was just super impressed with Lexa Grasso's physicality. That was the X factor for me.

I thought Valentin is just pure raw physical abilities. We're going to be a little bit too much. And the stylistic matchup is still tough for Alexa Grasso. Like I still think in the rematch, I'm still going to have questions about the stylistic matchup. But Alexa, proved me wrong, proved a lot of people wrong. She is evolving. And she is living up to the potential that a lot

of people had for her early on. I know Dana White throughout the Mexican Ronda Rousey in comparisons to Alexa Grasso. And yeah, that's her right now. Look, man, I know we're in New York. We got to do a show. I'm in a hotel lobby with like 150

people. This is where we're at. This is how we got to do it. I apologize. I wish we can do it better. Someone, someone remind me I forgot to mention there is a poll. I mean, people can see it. But I just remind me, I'm sorry, I did do a poll. Who was the biggest winner of USC 285? John Jones, Alexa Grasso.

I threw Shopcott in there for another option and also just other. So, again, there was a lot of big winners, a lot of big winners on Saturday. So maybe you thought it wasn't Jones or Grasso. I don't know. So I threw ShopCon that option there. But of course, John Jones ahead right now, 58%. I actually thought it'd be closer with Grasso. I thought it was a closer with 38%.

I would, I mean, look, it's not going to happen. but I would like to see Aaron Blanchfield get the title shot. I would like to see it. Is that your official pick? No, it's not. It's going to be the rematch. It's going to be the rematch. I will say there is a chance that like it might not happen next.

It's all on Valentino. Like if Valentino wants to fight like this summer. If they go to Mexico City, they're going to offer Valentina that fight. If she takes it, great. If not, then Aaron Blanchield's going to Mexico City to fight for the bell. But Alexa Grasso, like if they go to Mexico City, Alex Grasso is defending her title on that card. Whether it's against Valentina or Aaron Blanchfield,

I think Valentina is not going to be one that's going to be like, oh, I need to reflect and take nine months, 10 months off. I think that she's going to be hungry to get back in there and try to get that belt back. So, yeah, this win was huge. And if Mexico City and going there this year was kind of on the fence, Alex Grasso pushed it into the other yard. They're in the neighbor's backyard right now.

They're going to Mexico City, and it's going to be a massive car. Could have three title fights in that card. could have Volk versus Yair unification boat we could do both flyway titles on the line like that has potentially be an absolutely massive part so what a performance from from Alexa grassy uh yeah I hope they don't do the three title fights and I don't think I don't know if they will it'd be cool but I think I think you say you can save because I'm thinking it'd be more it'd be just two out of three I think one of the other fights gets saved for another car it would be amazing if somehow the star is got a line but I think two out of three is going to be more likely um the other thing I want to touch upon was oh my gosh my my my mind just went blank. Mike, we were talking about Grasso. Just, you know what,

come back. Jed, losing all his money? I don't want to, we don't, we definitely don't need to talk about that. We did not need to mention that. No,

I just totally blank. It's good. We can, we can move on. I'm sure it'll come back to me. Shafkat Rachman of, AK, you tweet up a storm about this man.

He is who we thought he was. Good Lord. What a freaking scrap he had with Jeff Neal. I told everybody that that listened to the sound of my voice that I was picking Shafcott to win, but to think that he was just going to go in there and steamroll Jeff Neal, I just didn't see it happening. I thought the line was too wide. And while I had a horrible read on the Shepchenko Grasso fight,

I had a pretty good read on this one. And just Shafcott just chucking in a bulldog chokes standing, just brute strength and just. we don't need technique. We're just going to muscle you into a submission. That was just absolutely insane. Absolutely. I can't get that moment out of my mind where he just bulldog chokes.

The tap happens. And then he just kind of lets him go. And he just collapses. And Jeff Deal just kind of like collapses to the floor. Then he calls out Colby or he wants a title shot. I don't think he gets either of those things. Okay. So this is kind of a tough one for me.

Because without having the ability to see into the future and see the result of the title fight of UFC 286 between Leon Edwards and Kamar Usman, I don't really know where to go with this. So this is kind of cheating, but this is where we're at. Because the way I see it, if Usman wins this fight, they're not going to do it again. They're not going to run it back again. Maybe they'll run it back in the future, but it's not something they'll immediately go back to. If Usman wins, I think Bilal Muhammad probably will get the next shot at the title.

But if Leon Edwards wins, I think Belal-Evon. Muhammad's going to have to fight Shafkaa Rakhmanov, and that is brutal. And the unfortunate thing for another fighter on this roster is, if Leon Edwards loses to Kabar Usman, I think Leon Edwards is going to have to fight Shafkaoqqqqq. So the way I see it, Ousman wins. Bilal probably gets a title shot. If Edwards wins, I don't think Belaw gets a title shot. He's probably going to have to fight Shafkot.

So it's kind of cheating, but my pick is Shafcott's either going to fight Bilal Muhammad or he's going to fight Leon Edwards. And those are my two choices. I will forfeit any potential Otno points, but without knowing what happens in 13 days, I can't land on one specific thing. And it's, I can't, I don't have a great read on the main event just yet with the fight being 13 days away. So, um, Shafcott Bilal or Shafkat Leon. That's where we're going.

What do you got? Yeah, this is a quasi-Friends forever because I also went with Balal. But you're right. It's, there's so many things that have to play out at 170 because you mentioned, uh, I mean, look, is it possible that for Balaal, sorry, who's going to win? First and foremost, who's going to win U.S.C. 286, Usman-Edwards trilogy bout. Burns-Mazvidal. We think, again, if Mazvidal wins and Edwards-Wins, they're going to do Edwards-Mazvidal, almost for sure.

Will Bala even be free? Is there a chance he can get the Colby Covington fight? I don't think so, but if that fight gets booked, that changes the math. Hamzat. Hamzat's out there. It sounds like he's done with Welterweight. I don't know if he will return, but that's not official. He doesn't have a fight book to 185.

I haven't heard him. I think his manager might have comments on it. We haven't really heard of Kamsat say like, oh, yeah, I'm only going to fight at 185. I bet if you ask him, he's probably going to say, I can do both. I'm going to fight at middleweight and welterweight. So that's like four things I just mentioned that we have to see play out in the future. And if you're shop caught, again, yeah, you really have no guarantees. It was a great win, super exciting fight.

He was one of the stars of the night. Like it was just for a fight week, he did a good job too. He's coming off. He's giving off this really like cool, humble vibe. And he steps in the cage. And he's like one of the most violent MFers I've ever seen in my life. He likes hurting people. It looks like he likes getting hurt.

He almost seems to have this like half smirk on his face during the entire fight. At least this fight with Jeff Neal, he looked like he was having so much fun. And I tweeted this earlier Saturday, Mike, that the way he choked him, like the pictures and the images sort of coming out of there. They were, they were, that was a more dramatic movie like finish than the Jake Jalenhall, uh,

J. Haran like knockout. Like it was, it was, it looked, we just hadn't seen a standing guilty and ever in the UC that way. We've seen like bulldog chokes and this was kind of like that. But this was, sorry,

a standing, uh, rear naked choke. Excuse me. This was a rear naked choke. This was not really a bulldog. Um, it just kind of look,

there's almost like a cross between them, I guess, like a bulldog rear naked choke. It's a hybrid. It was a hybrid. For sure. Because there's no hooks, right? There's no hooks.

He's literally just standing. It was a bouncer joke. Chris Wybman nailed it. Chris Wybman, the bouncer. Yeah, that's what, that's a guy's getting, being unruly at the club. You put your, okay, come here, come here, come here, come here. Put your arm running. Get out of here.

Get out of here. Sleep it off. Sleep it off. And that's something we did. He made, he made Jeff Neal sleep it off. It was amazing. And I said they should use CGI. Like forget what they were doing with, with Jake Joel and,

the knockout. They should just CGI his face onto Shavkat's face and just use that as the, as the, whatever, the opening scene for this, this movie, Roadhouse, where apparently he plays a disgraced UFC fighter. You just put that choke in there and then you put an audio like, oh, he didn't let go of the choke. And like, that's how he ends up getting sort of kicked out of the UFC and I guess into the Roadhouse plot. Hollywood, you're having this idea for free. You're still, guys, they're still, they're still filming the movie. You can have this idea for free. I just gave it to you. So I thought that was so cool and so scary. so memorable and shopcott should should be a movie star if we lived in a perfect world so um but yeah i

don't know i settled on bala muhammad but that's that's like almost my default answer uh without knowing how all these other elements at the welterweight are going to play out and mike i remembered my thought that i had it's it's share it please i wish i wish i had remembered it five minutes ago but it was just one thing regarding erin blanchefield and that's that um i saw a lot of people saying, oh, Aaron Blanchfield's going to have to fight again, and that's too bad for her. It's really too bad for her opponent, I would say. It's really not bad for Aaron Blanchfield. It's too bad for anyone that has to fight Aaron Blanchfield next, because I'm picking her to beat

almost anyone that's not named. I was to say, Valentin Shetchenko, but I would favor Blanchfield over Alexa Grasso as well that the fight got made. So that was my last women's flyweight title fight thought. So we can move on now. We can move on now and I can sleep peacefully. There you go. I was telling you this before we hit record.

I'm kind of surprised that the most non-memorable thing that happened on this main card was sort of the low-key banger that everybody was excited for. Like, Matouche Gamrod and Jalen Turner was a scrap, but it was like the fifth most interesting thing that happened on this card, which is crazy. That just tells you, like, the memories of this card and the storylines afterwards. But Matush Gamrott goes in as a pretty wide favorite. He gets it done.

it was a close fight. He just kind of out-gritted Jalen Turner with the grappling prowess. And Turner was in it most of the way. I thought he had his moments, but the grappling was just a little too much. When Gamrod needed a take-down, he got it. And I think the big key to this fight was Gamrod just having that extra experience. Dude's been doing this for a minute.

I know he's a little bit newer to the UFC audience, but he's been fighting high-low pretty good competition and big fights and big spots for a long time. the short notice thing didn't worry me all that much i picked gamrott to win by decision wasn't fully confident on it but it was a fight that was really good and i think even with the loss i think jalen turd still got people excited about his future but gamrash is such a stud in the scrambles and in the wrestling but how does this play out we're in a weird division where we talk about ranking squatters there's no more there's no division that has more ranking squatters than the lightweight division right now

because of all the names that are there, but Gamrock gets a big win, back on track. He got the shot with Darius in the fight prior to that. Where do we go from here? I like him to get the Justin G. Rafael Paziv winner. That fight's going down 286, March 18, so happening soon. So the timing would work out if everyone's healthy. You know, everyone gets a fight,

and everyone doesn't get any unavoidable, you know, medical suspensions. I've probably matched up someone with the winner of this fight before. So either of these names, I think, you mentioned squat, like, I don't want either of these guys to squat. I don't think Gaichi should get an immediate shot at Makachev if he beats Viziv and vice versa. I don't think Viziv should get an immediate shot. It's not out of the question.

It's just there's other names at lightweight that I could see being slightly ahead of them. So if one of those guys does not get a tell of shot, Gamrod is probably, that's probably where I want to go with it. It was a great fight. I saw some, it was, it was just, Gamrod is, he's relentless. I mean, this is a guy who I said it when we were chatting amongst ourselves that you cannot take a second off from him. He just always, there's always something going on with him.

It's not like he's like he's the fastest fighter, but there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a pace, there's a pressure he puts on. And he's very effective with what he does. He's very clinical. Like, he's, he's, he's very, he's technically good. He's not, I don't say he's just a pressure fighter as in like he's like a wild man, like, with, like, infinite cardio. He's smart with how he, he, he strings his techniques together. It's really fun to watch. And again, that's just not where Turner is yet in his career.

Turner's a few years younger, has a few years less MMA experience. So it's fine. So it's taking a split decision loss to Gamrot for me. It doesn't hurt his stock and all. In fact, Mike, I was going to ask you, after seeing that fight on Saturday, if you had to bet, which if only one of them was going to get, end up, like, competing for a UFC title, or I would say winning it? Who would have a better shot of winning a UFC title?

I mean, which I pick Gamrot or Turner. Oh, man. I'm leaning Turner, but I'm not all that coughing. This division's just, it's so crazy and it's so unpredictable that anything can happen. So I just think Turner's physical abilities, the advantages he has, like, the reach and the length and just being so big for this division, I think that's going to get him a lot of ways. And I think when the overall skill set develops to reach that, I think he's going to be just a massive problem in this division. but yeah it's kind of a flip of a coin honestly i can't really land on one of the other but i would slightly lean jalen turner yeah same same with me i i there's there's his his striking and his finishing instincts and his freakish size for 155 are just so intriguing to me

and uh again it was a split decision there's there's a chance he could have he could have won that on the scorecards i have no problem with the decision at all super competitive fight uh and there's just this this conflict of the damage that turner was doing versus is the how much control gamut had and gamut landed a lot of ground and pound as well he ended he ended those rounds really strong like not just in like resting and holding position he's throwing elbows throwing punches so for people who didn't think that ground and pound was effective that to me was like the definition of effective ground and pound so I don't know you run that one back you know five times I don't know I don't know who wins throughout a five it was a really great

competitive fight but if you run it back a year from if you told this a year from now I would certainly favor Turner I just do think he's going to going to fight for a UFC title someday. Just has some gifts you can't teach. And there's skills that you can teach that once he gets them, he's going to be a top three, top five lightweight for a long time. So I thought we're going to have a friend for a moment here. I'm actually going with the Gaichi Fiziv loser.

Okay. Whoever loses that fight. I just think either way, I don't think you can really go wrong. I think he's going to fight one of those two people that are going to be fighting in 13 days. Timelines perfect. Gaiti loses, it's not like he can really say no. And if Zeeve loses, that's just a scrap and a half. So, yeah, I think that that's the direction to go.

He has to be in that mix. He has to be in that mix at this point, Gamrod. Certainly. He has the reputation, the experience, the ability. I think he'd be competitive against pretty much anyone in the top eight, top nine. So he has to be in that mix. Again, apologies for the background. There is, like, a ton of people in this lobby right now.

Like, there's like a hundred people down here. I didn't see this comment and there's some music going on. I hear some singing. Okay, what's next for Bo Nickel, A.K. A weird fight. But, yeah, please speak. First of all, let me say,

I threw up a new poll about should Grasso and Chavchinko immediately rematch so far. Yes, jumping ahead early, 68%. Bo Nipple. Bo Nickle. I'm all, I was late to the train, I think, a little bit late.

I don't know if you can be late on the train since he just, what, started fighting. He made his amateur. debut what uh 20 21 20 20 20 make his amateur debut mic my what am i what am i missing here hold on let me i'll look this up so we don't have to uh uh 2021 september 2021 uh made his amateur debut he won a couple amateur fights now he's turned pro 4 and o and just looked unbelievably impressive but i am late because again i i'm familiar with the name but i don't really follow american collegiate wrestling so I see the accolades three-time NCAA wrestling champion,

but I don't know how to separate that from other NCAA wrestling champions who have entered MMA. So I got to listen to guys like smart people like Damon, people like that who to follow the hype. But I've gotten on that bandwagon as quickly as I could. There's still room. There was still room. So thank you, everyone who let me on.

Because it is filling up quick. After Saturday, after Saturday filled up even quicker, though maybe not as much as it could have because there was a low blow in there. that was certainly a talk of of the much of the result post fight I kind of caught it lie but I thought like okay maybe it was like glancing blow it was pretty bad it was pretty bad it's not going to get turned over

it's not going to the appeal is not going to go anywhere I understand his team doing it I don't blame them I think they should do it on the outside chance that it works also just let people know they're doing something I mean I don't think you're a good management if you see a foul like that you're just going to move on yeah at least let people let people know you made a protest and and and that you feel that you're fighter was was was was uh you know done wrong but even without that uh that low blow it was going to be

one way track traffic for bow it was unfortunate that that happened but i don't think the results all too different maybe it takes a little bit longer to get the finish maybe it even goes the second round i don't think so i think i think nickel first round finish was written in stone so i'm really high in him i've said i think he'll fight for a title by 2024 but i might for his next matchup it might not seem like I'm pushing him in that direction, but I want to see him beat a guy with more like actual, a winning UFC record first. So I'm giving him the tough Jun Yang Park. Jun Yang Park is six and two in the UFC.

Listen, not the biggest name. I get it. Most people couldn't pick Jun Young Park out of a lineup, but he's got the experience. He's beaten good competition. He's on a win streak. So there's no, there's no saying like, oh, well, we're just setting him up with another guy who, you know, hasn't been successful because Pickett was coming off two straight losses. Jung-Yong Park just beat in Dennis Tallulin.

Yeah, Dennis Tallulen. Finished them inside a round. Looks great. Had another finish for that of Joseph Holmes, a guy who lost to Jay Pickett. So make of that what you will. And beat Eric Anders. So good stuff overall, like I said, six wins and eight UFC appearances. It's been, I can understand the temptation to bump him higher, throw him in there with

some of the top 20 give him a ranked opponent even i understand i understand he's a matchup nightmare for a lot of names in the top 10 like if you put him in there with alex put put out of pedeta we've all said it he probably beats alex but i think something has to be done as far as building someone up the proper way so let's at least you know give me three fights give me three fights i said give him again top 35 top 30 guy in jun young park top 20 guys next fight top 10 is next fight 24 we're talking to tell a shot so that That's it. I think there's a pretty clear platform. If they want to push them faster, I have no problem with it. But for now, I'm just going with someone that's a little bit closer to the middle of the pack in Jun Yong Park. Not a bad pick. Not a bad pick. Yeah, it's kind of tough. Yeah, that knee was pretty bad.

There's a case to be made. You could just run that one back. I wouldn't do that because I think the result is kind of what we expected anyways. and I think we would have gotten there anyhow. But Jimmy Pickett, you know, to his credit, took the fight, but he's on the lower end of the rankings, probably like the bottom 10 of the entire roster. So I do want to give him a step up, not a giant one. And I like the Iron Turtle pick. I'm going with Punisoriano, AK.

Oh. Because, I mean, look, Bo's real good. The ceiling is high. Let's throw them in the middle of the pool. you know, maybe he's still got his floaties on a little bit. His toes are just kind of touching the bottom of the pool. But then we can chuck them into the deep end a little bit more. But I think Puna is a scrapper, and Puna will go after him and try to fight him.

I would favor Bo Nickle heavily to win that fight, but I think it would be like a good next step up to fight a scrappy dude like that who has finishing ability. So that's what I landed on. Hypothetically, do you have Puna like what, top 40? Top 40 at middleweight? I'll tell you that. There's like 60-something middleweights in the UFC.

And Bo, you put in the same range somewhere in the top 40, or you wouldn't have him in the top 40 yet. I don't know where to put him. I'd probably have him higher, but we're developing him at the same token. So, yeah, so I'll go with Puna for now, and we'll go from there. I'll tell you right now. I had him debut in the very exclusive, Alexander K. Lee, personal rankings. This is only UFC only

UFC only so it does not include like Johnny Evelyn God's like this is just UFC rankings. Bonicole, 33. I'm 33 out of 60 something so not quite in the top half but just to, again, I might be maybe I should rank him higher. I don't know. But based on just beating Jimmy Pickett, that does not give him like a huge UFC standing for me.

Though again, jump in the 33 spot in your fourth pro bout and your first one UFC fight, I think it's pretty good. I have him above guys like Barrio who just won on Saturday. Jacob Malcun, Eric Anders, has way more UFC experience in Bo Nicol. I have nickel above him. Abdulazak al-Hassan. Yeah, I have him above some pretty good, more experienced names. So I think this is actually like a really high debut.

But again, I don't know. I don't know how people handle their personal rankings or if they would even even think about them beyond like the top 25. I see a lot of people suggesting the Andrei-Betroski fight. Maybe. But Petroski's booked and he's not fighting till May. He's fighting Arm of Petrosian. So we can't do that right now. And I think they fight someday.

Again, he might be the option for the, after, you know, my hypothetical Juniong Park pick, a Petroski beating Arm and Petrosi, if he beats Armin Petrojean, might be the choice. I think I think I'd like to go a little bit higher. But, hey, Petrosky would be 5 and O. I don't know. I might have to rank him again, top 30, top 25 at that point. That might be the right name. So I like what people are thinking with their head is out with that.

And he's a great, he's a great graph way. Yeah, it'd be a good fight. And who knows, if we can get Bo back pretty quickly, that. Maybe we can line up the timelines here. All right. Let's go to the wildcard round. I mean, it's just getting chaotic here. Yeah, yeah.

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we have not matched made for yet. It will match bait for him right now, aka who's your wildcard pick for UFC 285? I'm with Ian Machado Gary. I thought he was impressive. I thought it was impressive. Mike, you had some questions about matching out with Sankan. And it almost kind of played out the right way for you because you had said just, you didn't really see the point in it. And I think if he had gotten knocked out by Sankan, that would have just been disastrous. And kind of would have gone to your point of like, this guy isn't even a big name. So like beating him doesn't do a lot for Gary, but losing to him would hurt him very badly.

However, the way it played out, him coming back from the knockdown and then, you know, he would look good around one anyway before getting knocked down. and then bounce back, continued sort of the work he was doing early in the fight. Great, striking, very diverse, mixing in the body work. This is what people like about him so much. So in the way it worked out, you were right on paper. It was kind of a weird matchup, but the way it played out, it turned out to be the perfect matchup. So I think overall, great job UFC matchmakers on the Machado Gary.

Sankan matchup. I'm going with Phil Roe next. I just don't feel the need to rush him. I do want to put him against someone else who's on a win streak. I actually have Roe ranked a little bit below him but again it's once you reach that area they're all kind of like clustered together so I just think Phil Roe good challenge

again there's no need to rush in Machado Gary into a big matchup he's 24 years old he's 24 he's he's not Connor McGregor he doesn't have that kind of one shot kill power he doesn't have that kind of sort of another or unorth like unique movement he's just very very solid

and having some great great great training right now He's with the right team. He's right where he needs to be. So he's not Conradger. And he's also not Patty Pimblit. I think his ceiling is much higher than Patty. Star power-wise, I mean, Patty's probably going to be way more famous than him throughout their careers.

But as far as actually being a contender, maybe getting a number next their name, I think Ian Machado Gary has a much better chance. So I don't want to rush him. Phil Roe. Again, I know not the sexiest pick. But that could be like, I think that could co-main events a fight night card. But I don't know. I don't know if you went with a different name and a little more, a little more drama. Oh, I want a different name.

Phil Rose, tough fight. He is? He's huge. Yes. Interesting. Yeah, that's interesting. Maybe think. I'm going with Cody Garbran, K.

I tease this on heck of a morning. Oh. I'm fully on board with Jedmishu here. Cody did not look good last night. I know he's saying he had a neck injury of some kind, but I mean, and I, sure. But, I mean, I just, I need to see him tested. Trevin Jones is not the guy to do it because Trevin Jones had a chance to do something here and he did nothing. Like, he literally did nothing.

It just wasn't a good fight. I see a lot of people going with Cody Garbrandt v. Dominic Cruz, too. And I like that idea. That is not what I'm going with. That is not what I'm going with. This is a very tough division. This is a deep division. and it is a very difficult division to make any waves in,

and it's a very difficult division to just come in there and fight topped, ranked competition, even if you are a former champion of a lower division. And this fight was already made before. It didn't happen, but let's do it now. Cody Garbrandt welcomes Davis and Figurato to the Bannamoyt Division, and we do the fight there. good fight, a big name for Figgie to get in there.

We're not pushing him too fast. And it's a fight that's going to make Cody fight a little bit. And it's a fight that's just going to be fun. Like if we're looking for a fun Cody Garbrand fight, that's a fun, Cody Garbrand fight. And he could win that fight. Like, he could win. I would pick Figgy, but I just don't know where we go with Carbrand.

Like we gave him as big of a step back as we possibly could. And he squeaked out. He barely won a decision. He won, but it just wasn't a great fight. But, yeah, I just feel like that's where we're at right now. I mean, the last pick I had was Adrian Yannes for Cody Garbrand. So I think this is still a tough one. But yeah, I think this is the fight.

Just get him in there and check him. We don't have a lot of time left with Cody. Let's just see if we can get him back. Like, if this fight doesn't get him going and get him fired up that we get vintage Cody in any kind of a way, then we'll get the answers to our questions. Because we still have them. I think he's on the wrong side of it at this point,

but there are some people who don't think he can. So that's what I'm going with. It's him and Figgie. That's the one I want. Mike, you've said it. I know Jad hasn't pushed this hard on social media. E. Casey Line is a fan of the Garbrand Figuie Match. I'm going to go to the people here, Mike,

because the people are always correct, as we know. I'm going to go to the, especially the YouTube comments. People in YouTube comments are a font of wisdom. So here's what people are saying. This kills the Garbrandt. R-I-P, no love. Cody's going to get worked by Figgy. Bro wants to kill Gar-Brandt.

I think Bro is you, Mike. Cody getting slept by Figgy. Cody dies in that fight, all caps. Figgy beats Cody EZ. Listen, I'm not, okay. I'm not saying that we have to listen to these comments. I will just say I agree with them. I hate this fight.

I don't know why. It's been brought up before. Again, Jed has been harping on it for a long time. I hate this matchup. I don't understand why people want it other than the name value. I don't think Garbrandt can win that fight. Figgie to me is one of the pound for pound best fighters in the world. And if this fight happened at flyweight, he'd be a friggin minus 600 favorite.

So why would it be different if it's at 135? Mike, I hate it. I can't. I hate this matchup. I'm sorry. It's sink or swim time for the. man. That's it. No, it's not. Why? Why does it have to be? He already sank a little bit on Saturday. He did not look good. Did not look good. Against the, there is no further step back. That's it.

Sink or swim. Then give him only a slight step forward. Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why do we have to go from Trevin Jones to one of the top pound for found fighters in the world? He didn't earn that. He did not earn that. This is not like he's had enough time, dude. Like he's had enough time. This is it. Like, we just just got to do it. This is the one we're going to make. We don't have to like it. We don't have to do it. Why? We don't have to like it. What is the time? What is the urgency with Garbrandt right now? He has to, like, he's, he just has to fight somebody that's going to get him going. I mean, Ronnie Ayah isn't going to do it. He couldn't, he couldn't look good against

Trevin Jones, the best stylistic match for him. What is, what is Ficky going to do? Like, that's going to get him up. That's going to get him killed. He's going to get in the pocket and have to throw punches and actually try to fight. That's not going to end well for him. Well, then they should just release him then because there's nothing else left for him to do. How can he fight Victor Henry? Why can't he fight? Holland Paiva.

Why can't he fight? There's so many other people he can fight. This is not a binary thing. I do not understand this binary decision making around Cody's career. He's only 31. I get it. He has a level of fame that dictates certain matches. but I think the Trevin Jones step back made sense

and you can keep gradually going back up from there. I don't think there is a rush to go him into a contender fight. I don't understand. Why is he so special and nobody else is? That's what I'm saying. He's not special. Why should he get the Figy fight? Why?

What did he do on Saturday to earn that fight? I just want to see him fight. I just want to see it. I wanted to see it at 125. I hate it so much. If it happened to 125, we wouldn't even be, if this is a flyway,

wouldn't even be talking about this fight being possible. And just because they're both one, back at 135 or say Cody's back in 135 and big he's going to be 135 now it's an appealing matchup it just makes no sense to me I hate it I'm going with it as is your God given right as an American yeah all right I'm trying to see if I just I it's just too loud here might have to we just might have to wrap this at this point I'm sorry I just don't want to pit people I don't I said that bad it's not kind of bad for me but I don't know how it is for the people are reacting and I don't want people that have to like hear it the entire time.

Yeah, just complaining about everything. I know, but I, you know how I feel about audio quality. I know. You know, I'm already, I already have to go through the headphones because the mic I travel with is just not working well. So I'm already like up against it here and I already feel bad about it. So, um, all right, you know what? Pick some picks.

Okay, five minutes. All right. Yeah, yeah. Send us your, I'm going to tell Bill. All right. Phil, send us your picks out. Stop complaining about the audio. Stockman's the audio, send in your voice.

Let's go. By the way, 75%. Send them in. 75% want to see the instant rematch with Grasso and Shepchenko. So, man, there you go. Let's see. Okay. Only few big.

Simon versus the loser of Gravely versus Henry. Barrio versus Eric Anders. Ian Garrier versus Phil Roe. All right. Barrio versus Anders. Thank you, Dogg, the Value Hunter. Barrio versus Anders. Boy, that's a middleweighty.

Where are we on Barrio? I said the fact that he won and finished a fight, I think actually hurts his chances of being a middleweighty, middleweight champion. I don't know where you found that. I thought if someone wins a decision that that would make it. The fact that he finished, I'm like, disappointing. I think that moves Marquez up the middleweighty, middleweight rankings. So I don't know.

I didn't know how to feel about that. That was a middleweighty, middleweight fight. Oh, my gosh. Like a very middleweighty middleweighty fight. People told me, I didn't believe them. I said, no, Marquez. isn't a middleweight, middleweight? I was wrong.

I was wrong. I love this comment. Mike Hack is committed to this show as Cody Garber and is to remaining conscious in a fistfight. Oh, come on. Okay. Okay. How about this idea? Cody versus Davy Grant.

I like it. I like it. Are you joking me? No, I'm not joking. It's a good fight. Do you see how hard that hits? That dude hurt Adrianianianianas in general. I've seen a hard,

Davidson Figurato hits. Yeah, at 125. I, again, but it's a hard. Again, but I think at 135, I don't think it's going to be tough. I don't see a massive difference here. I really don't. Well, either way. Cody just fought.

Figgy doesn't have his, go back to Jedreb. He doesn't have his fastball anymore. He doesn't. But what's this? He does not have a fastball anymore. So with this, again, with that fight have been different at 125, Cody and and, and Figgie? I don't know. I think it would have been, I think it would have been worse back then.

I think it's better now. I don't know. Listen, Cody got smoked by one. 25 are in Kikar, France. That's true. I don't know. I don't know the difference. I like to be a grand metup.

Dude, Figgie's up there, man. Fingie 25. Fingie's getting up there in age. Listen, he's, he's, we've seen him go fight at the highest level with Brandon Moreno multiple times.

He's still very, very, very good. Leagues above Cody Garber. Speaking of people who want, um, names and former champions to be annihilated and or possibly

badly injured in fights. Let's go to Tristan Gordette. Tristan. Amanda Hebas versus Tatiana Suarez. What do you think of that? I don't hate it. It's not going to happen. Would you, would it,

I'm trying to think, would it make, that would be 115, right? That would make more sense at 115, right? Yeah, I don't think it happens. Tatiana is way too hot. Like, Tatiana's closer to the top five at this point. And Yachal Nantz booked against Jessica, I don't know, maybe.

If it's not, if like Tatiana wants to fight like too much, Shafcott versus RDA? Oh, no. The name value, the name value. I mean, a shotgun is huge favor. Are you kidding me right now? Yeah, huge. The name value, I'm saying.

It's a former UFC champion. I'm not even going to get into this. No, do it. Are you going to compare it to the figgy Garbrand situation? What's the difference? RDA is going to get destroyed in that fight. RDA has actually won fights in the last like three years. It's not even close.

You're comparing him to Hodi Garbrandt. Hodi deaded Hafiel Assum. So, like absolutely annihilated that man. How long ago was that? It's like two years ago. Three years ago, Mike, June 2020. There was like three fights. That's like two, three fights ago.

Oh, come on. RDA is actually winning. Arda is actually winning fights at 170. It's not even close. You can't compare them. There's no comparison. There's no comparison. Batush Gamrod v. Gregory Gillespie.

Cameron Simon versus Eretchi Lang. I'm tired and stubborn, so I'm going to keep fighting this. You're not alone. I know Jed and Casey are going to, I know, they're going to be on it for the next three months. I just know it. This, he, Tristan has a great suggestion here.

This could be for the middle-weightiest middle-weight title. Mark Andre Barrio versus Jacob Al-Coon. That is like super middle-weighty middle-weighted. That's almost two middle-weighty. Isn't there a limit, Mike? Don't we have to draw a line? Like, no. No, this is two middle-weighty.

This is, pull it back. Pull it back. That's too much. That's crazy. Oh, my gosh. That's a good, that's a good pick. Tabith Ritchie versus the Michelle Waterson-Gomez Pinero winner.

I don't, yeah, that's fine. I like it. Pinear, yes, yes, yeah, I like that because I have, I have them close together in the ranking. Ritchie versus Emily to Cody, don't mind that one. Yeah, I saw a lot of that. That's very popular. DDP, uh, DDP kind of flying under the radar versus Jared Canada in the air. That was, um, maybe DDP might be the middleweightiest middleweight champion, AK, because that, I mean, that dude is like, I don't even how to describe GDP.

He's just, you just know it's going to be a scrap against anybody. It's just, I don't even know how to describe. describe this performance. I have to read I have to read a message we're talking about middle weighty middle weights I do have to I have to read a message from a first timer I always like to do it so CV thank you for sending you much first timer some pretty popular picks Jones steep Grasso Shvchenko too but he was asking more importantly when are you guys going to release the weighty the weightiest weight rankings for each weight class that's a tongue twister for you very important question I will say though it doesn't apply to every weight class right you'd

agree there's no system like I wouldn't say like the welter weight welterweight, the light, like, it's, it's kind of a back. It's a middle weight. It's a middle weight and above. Okay. You can do it at 205 easily. You can definitely do it at heavy weight. Oh, one exception, women's bantam weight.

There's definitely, there could be a women's, that's good point. Women's bantam weight. So there. Yes. In the, in the men's divisions, it's, it's 185 and above. Yes. I mean, we already, we're still trying to figure out how to like track Otno points at this point. And that was like, it's been like a thought.

three-year journey trying to figure that out. It's gone off the board now. Yeah, it's off the board. Bo Nickel versus the Gerald Mirr-Chart Joe Piper winner. Sorry, a lot of that. Jeff Deal versus Sean Brady. Brady's got a rib injury. It's pretty bad, so he's going to be out for a minute.

Ian Gary versus Nichols-Dalby. I kind of like this. I like that one. Good, good, good pick. Very tough test. Let's see. We are going with flow. Barrio versus Ian Heinish.

Apparently Ian's on the road back. That's not a bad one. Do a very good match. Jeff Neal versus Jack Delam Adelaide. A lot of people suggested Ian Gary versus JPM. And I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Please no. At this stage of the career, JDM annihilates it.

We're not doing that. We're not doing that. But I like that Jeff Neal, man, wow. That would be super entertaining. That's there you go. It could be another 50 Gs for Jeff Neal. nobody cares about the audio, stop making excuses to end early.

Look, I'm on the desk no matter what. I got nothing else to do for another hour. So I could sit here for another hour, no problem. There ain't no excuses, my friend. Wow, it's like that. Come on, people. Shafka versus the winner of Mazadol Burns. So I don't know, like, how Burns factors into this,

because I know Shafcott does work at Kilcliffe, which means he probably has worked with Gilbert Burns. So I don't know, like what their relationships like. So I kind of like have pause with that, but I mean, if we could do it, let's go. Yeah, it's one of those big super teams too. So I don't know how close everyone necessarily is. It's such a huge team. And Shopkat already said he worked with Usman too and that he would fight Usman, no problem.

So yeah, I don't know if Shafcott is like is super personally tied to those guys. He's trained with them. Like I said, he spent time with them. But he seems like he'd fight most of these guys if he had the option. Masvidal, no. Maswydal if he wins is doing nothing. Oh, Masvedal, if Leon Edwards wins is not doing anything but fighting Leon Edwards.

There's no way. 100%. Ian Gary versus Jeremiah Wells? Yes. What's Jeremiah Wells been up to? It's one of those friends. I feel like probably fought more recently than I remember, but I just can't.

It's been a while. It's been a while. Yeah, it's been a minute. Oh, he smoked Cort McGee. Right. We were talking about, we were talking about Jeremiah a lot. Yeah, last June. So it has been a long time.

I don't mind it. I don't like it as much as some of the other suggestions we've got. I'd like to keep Ian and Jeremiah Wells away. Bo, Nicol Phil Haas. Nothing else really new here. Gone versus Spivak. Oh, yeah, I saw that. What do you think of that?

I saw people mention that one. I mean, yeah, I mean, why not? It just depends. I would favor God to win that fight, but I don't know, man. Spivak is tough. The grappling again, right? If Gahn's grappling is really, like that listen we knew it was a weakness

in the Francis and Ghanu fight and but we made the excuse of like oh he wasn't prepared he wasn't prepared for Francis to grapple with him so we're like okay give him time to properly train for a grappler now he gets destroyed by John Jones and then you can make another excuse well not every grappler is John Jones maybe it's not as as bad as it looks but Sergey Speedback

is a very strong grappler and if gone really isn't taking that like development seriously of shoring up that weakness he could really lose to Sergey's feedback 100% he best versus the the injury Lee, Macy Barber winner.

I actually not fought either of them. I have so much trouble keeping track of her because she's bounced between the two divisions. Yeah, she hasn't fought. Yeah, okay, those would both be fresh matchups, I think. Simon, Kyler Phillips. Is that too soon? That's way too soon, right?

Well, if he's allowed to fight like he usually does, I mean, Cameron and Simon can beat anybody. We haven't even seen him grab the fence yet. He's got tricks that people aren't here ready for, fish hooking. Has he bitten anyone yet? I haven't seen him bite anyone yet. If he bites Kyler Phillips, I'd just give him a chance.

DDP versus the Vittori DeLeeds a winner, AK. There's so many good fights for DDP. I mean, that guy, listen, I think he can compete with anyone. He just, I just love how after the first two minutes of every fight, it's like, oh, man, he looks gassed. Oh, his mouth's open. He's, like, kind of laboring. Like, that's just how he fights, man. That's how he, his mouth is open.

He's a little weird, like, not quite like Keith Chardini, but he's just a little herky jerky with his movements and he gets hit a lot and it just always looked like things are going bad but that's the trick is duplicacy experience and i hope it never changes so yeah i don't know a lot a lot of ways to go with him what else you got here bo nickel versus jack her manson wow david sandine thrown right into a ranked opponent uh mike what are the odds there what's the opening odds in that fight i think bo nickel's the favorite how much how much what do you think Wow. Over like a top 15. Can you imagine that? Like how much respect that would mean if he came up minus 250 over Jack Hermantz and the guy with again top 15 guy who's been top 15 for like a lot like three or four years. So much more I may experience and yet a minus 250 line sounds reasonable. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. DDP versus Paul Costa. I'd love to see this fight. I just don't like it. I don't think it happens.

What do we think? What's going to happen with Paulo Costum? What do you think? Crystal Ball? Crystal Ball. Do he has one fight? Is it he has one fight left or he has no fights left on his contract? So he says.

I mean, he said, this is my last fight on the contract like three times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Already. So, but he says he kind of has like a ticking clock, but it's just a, the UFC could just mess with him too. And just, you know, do not waive any negotiation period, stuff like that. but yeah i don't know i just don't think paul's gonna be like yeah i'll fight for 75 and 75 against trickus two plus C although that would be a super fun fight i like ddnepi versus brend and allen like i'm cool with that i think i think i saw that one come up i saw one uh bo nickle someone

recommend them sorry i forgot their name someone mess with me bo nickle versus brendan allen i don't know about that right um bo nico versus brendan allen yeah man yeah no i don't want to do that nickel versus termin yeah you could do that again that's got oh termine i think just got I'm not going to call that doo-doo because I'm pretty sure this just happened or was least reported. Yeah, I think so. He's fighting. What's the rumor? What's a hot rumor with a middle-weighty, middle-weight Wellington tournament?

I don't even remember. I can't even find it. That's how just rumor is. He was by decision with the easiest money I've got. Listen, I don't bet, but if I did, if there's one thing I would have bet on in this entire card, he was by decision. You said that on the preview show. You said that is, that was your lock of the night was that he was by decision. What about MAB versus Bo-Nickle?

Yeah, yeah. Again, it makes This is where he is And a lot of these names are thrown out He's in this cluster from somewhere from 35 to 50 in the U.S.C. Again, his reputation and his potential clearly higher, we'd be comfortable like putting him up against anyone in the top of Dean.

But you just, let's respect the process a little bit here. Ritchie versus Hill, after Hill's next fight, Hill, the always avenges the Penne La. Always Avenges Jessica Penelot. She is her, yeah, listen, they are best friends and Angela Hill is always willing to do a solid for Jessica Penning. Lauren Murphy versus the Maya O'Neill. We're not going to do that.

Cannon Air. Oh, Hebas versus Lauren Murphy versus Lauren Murphy or Maya O'Neal loser. DDP versus Canonier. Yeah, yeah. Marcelos, Cody versus Haione. Bo stays in Las Vegas and fights Abis Magaatoff this weekend. Do we go back to Jalen Turner, Dan Hooker? I think so, right?

I think so, too. I was very disappointed. I shouldn't even make this joke because no one's going to remember it. But when our dear friend, Oscar Wells, announced that fight, he announced it as, he meant to tweet, Dan Hooker is fighting Jalen Turner. And then he actually just tweeted, Dan Hooker is Jalen Turner at UFC 285. And I had a big laugh about it. And I was very disappointed that we did not actually get to, I was reminded Saturday morning thinking about it.

We did not get to see Dan Hooker actually transform into Jalen Turner on Saturday, because that would have been quite a show. So if we can make that transformation actually happened, then that would be fantastic. DDP versus Strickland? I saw that. That'd be wild. Meritocratically, it makes sense. I don't want to say. Sean Strickland is not that fun of a fighter to watch fight.

No. And maybe DDP can bring that out of them. but I just don't know because if he gets somehow sort of sucked into a Sean Strickland type of winning performance I don't know man

that's tough that just doesn't seem like it's going to be all that fun when we can have a lot of fun with DDP DDP versus like literally anybody else is fun and I feel like Sean Strickland would have like some weird things about say about like South Africa

and I don't I don't want to get into that I don't want to hear that but But this from Bullfrog actual would not surprise me if that flight is booked. It would not surprise. Turner versus Joel Alvarez. Two huge lightweights. Yeah, put him in there, sure. Gamera up Poria.

I think they're teammates. So that fight wouldn't happen. And even, Poria could fight for the belt right now. Like, he is in a position where he could be at the title shot. Yeah. So I don't see him. If he didn't want to fight Benile there, he would.

She certainly wouldn't fight Matush Gamrop. But I think they train together anyway. So does really matter? Yeah, because he's going to be off the win over. Chandler how silly would it be how much would it suck if like Chandler beats like McGregor and got a title shot over him would just be so bizarre it's incredible let me see Figgy versus font fonts booked against Adrianianna so I mean could maybe the loser that fight versus Figgy but I still want to see the Cody

fight I don't know I'm just gonna be stubborn as hell and die on the hill at this point I see more eat Gary versus JDM can't do it no it's too too much too much too soon I'm trying to find some do it. Put this one, A.K. DDP versus Chris Wydenman. I don't know. Honestly, I'm really worried about Wydenman just being completely like washed when he comes back. We're talking about a coming back from Mr.

I want to see him fight. I want to see him fight. He deserves it. He wants it. By the time he comes back, he'll be almost 39. He might be 39, so by the time he comes back, he wasn't looking like a world beater in the, Mari Akamato fight.

The Nehrya Hall fight we didn't really get to see. It ended an injury so quickly. But even his most recent win, again, about two and a half years ago, it was okay. He gutted it out. It was a clear win over Amaric meta, but it wasn't like super exciting. So I don't know if you want to put him with anyone ranked. I just think it could end really badly for him and be super sad. So I'm a Chris Wyman fan.

I hope he comes back and is able to, if not be a contender, at least, you know, streamed together some wins or go out on a high note but i i don't like that uh the dp matchup in particular is trachshan gore booked no and i had someone throw out him and you're going to say him in bonickle yep uh yeah i had someone throw that out there i like i could do the trachian one's interesting trachan's got a little buzz because that like incredibly weird submission that he got it was like the nastiest gillie i've ever seen uh shop got versus wonder boy come on No. I saw people recommend that.

I'm not entirely sure why, but it's out there. It's out there. And if you're, if you're Wonderboy, no interest. Zero. Zero. Ian Gary versus Matthew Semmelsberger,

that is a, that's a slapper. Fun fight, but man, he got to be careful, though, like, it's weird because I was going to say, I was going to say,

you know, if it was someone else besides Sankana. But Sankanaan has power. So, I mean, he did survive, he did survive a knockdown from it from a hard hitter. I think Semmelsberger is actually a level of, a slight level above.

that though i don't know if he could survive a knockdown against him but uh like i said you got to start pushing him up gradually eventually so maybe maybe salberg is the uh the right pick there ddp yoga is kind of good that's hilarious uh how about yeah neil versus jdm i i do like that yeah i don't mind that yeah that's a fun one that's a fun one um what else trying to go through here uh i mean there's so many comments about me just being stubborn as hell about cody versus figgy stand by it though. Oh, I'm going to do. I mean, I'm like Dana White right now. Like, you already buried Francis on the way out, even though the world wants it. You can't come out and say like, oh, we'll talk. We'll call them tomorrow. Like, you can't say that. You have to just,

you've already, you've already made the bed, so you kind of have to lie in at this point, at least for now. Now, come July, that's different. You could, you can maybe go through, but yeah. Did you see this just pop up from Anarud Gulipali? I believe he's a regular heck of a morning calling could be confused someone else. Ian Gary, Ian Machado, Gary, Kevin Lee? That's interesting. On paper, I think Kevin Lee obviously is a much more experienced

and skilled fighter, but also, again, he's a little shop worn. He's, you know, and he would be giving up size, I think, to Ian Machado, Gary. I mean, Kevin Lee is just never, is not going to be a big welterweight, even if that's the, you know, that's the way he probably has to compete at going forward.

It's a shame the Eagle FC thing fell through because he was finally, to fight 165 pounds. But five pounds makes a difference. That's a height thing. So that's not bad. That's interesting. And that's a name for Ian.

If you're really looking to push Imichato Gary's name now, that's the direction you're going. Again, I've just been going with the thought of like I don't care about boosting his name right now. I'm with like giving him, you know, relevant fight experience. That's what matters to me, not the name. But Kevin Lee makes sense if you're going name wise here. Who would you pick in that fight right now?

I would pick Gary. Again, I've just kind of lost a bit of faith in Kevin Lee's abilities to win, like, high-level fights, but I do like the match. Again, it's going to test takedown defense. That's a big thing, right? I don't know if Ian Gary's really been tested that much in that regard. Kevin Lee's great takedowns, great jiu-jitsu. So, yeah, a plus athlete.

It makes a lot of sense. I like it. I almost wish it. I hate to say it's better than my pick. It's better than whatever. Phil Rowe. Bill Road's solid, but I think Kevin Lee's better. I saw a bunch of people say Turner versus Moycano.

I don't mind that one. Yeah, yeah. Mycano, listen, there's some money matchup waiting for him. I heard that or Gamron. Also, Gamron, one of the guys from that fight, I think makes a lot sense. So the meeting of like 100 people has broken up. So we can go for a few more minutes. Esteban Rivavitt versus Anshul Jubilee.

I like that. That's crap. I see a lot of Gary versus Bam, Bam. BAMs both fight. BAMM's fighting Gunner Nelson in 13 days. I know the UFC broadcast said D-Rod, but D-Rod's out of that fight. D-Rod's injured, so he will not be fighting. Yeah, there it is.

Okay, we're starting to catch up here. We're starting to catch up. A lot of good picks, a lot of good picks. Thanks to you guys, everyone who's tuned in live and everyone who's listening to this later on the podcast, but for listening. This was a, I told you, man, 2.85, a lot of storylines, a lot of entry coming out of it, A lot of directions, a lot of these winners could go, and the losers too, frankly. Maybe in the wrong direction. But, yeah.

How about this? Mike is appalled. From Max Rapkin, Simon versus the 10-point scoring system. Listen, Cameron, Simon, if you're out there, and I know sometimes fighters listen to these things, if you're going to keep winning, you just keep doing what you're doing. Okay. I'm an idealist. I get it.

If it were possible, I would wish that no fighter ever committed five. No Fighter ever cheated. But I think him kicking Manna Martinez twice in the Yabo's and later poking him in the eye probably wasn't great for Manna Martinez's performance and could only have been beneficial to Cameron Simon eventually going on to win a decision and cash a winner's check. So I'm glad he's saying the right thing to interviews. Like I'm not a cheater. Obviously, these are accidents.

I don't mean to do these things. But until you are disqualified, until you get so many points taken away from me that cost you a decision. Cameron Simon, you're a young man who's winning fights. You're undefeated. You keep doing what you've got to do to stay undefeated

and to keep getting those two checks. That's all I'm saying. I'm not encouraging cheating. I'm just saying, what do you think of this one? Booneckle versus Joaquin Buckley. Booneckle with Wachle was Wachian Buckley. Good match up.

Booneckle, huge favorite. What did we say he closed that with chain pick? It's somewhere around like minus 1400. It's minus 2000, I think. Min is 2000. Yeah, it's right around there. I almost feel like with Buckley, and we always talk about it.

Buckley, like, is really someone who's not, he's kind of a smaller middleweight. So there's just a lot going in Bowes, advances away. I don't think it'd be as high as Pickett. I think Buckley has the name, has the cachet from that crazy-ass knockout, of course, that'll last forever. But I still think Nickel, like, minus 1,000.

I think he's still in the double digits, like, favorites. Or quad digits, whatever you want to. Against Walking Buckley, I don't think he's that high. I don't think so. Finest like $5.50,600. So it's still super high. But yeah, not astronomical. But I don't know, man.

I think this is a style-wise. I think it's a great matchup. Okay. So this is, I mean, look, this will be the final pick. Yeah, okay. And this is the pick. There is no other pick that is better than this from the entire card, from the entire week, from the entire weekend.

Jake Gyllenha, versus E. Casey Liden, UFC 300 main, card, Casey minus 500. Too low. Too low. Yeah, this is where our minus 1,000 should come in. Minus 2,000 happens. Jake Jill, the size might be an issue, Mike? I mean, listen, I, Casey line pound for pound.

I mean, again, top 10 pound for pound fighter, but Jake Jiloh, looking like a bit of a juicy juice boy at the way-ins. And when he stepped into the cage on Saturday nights. But listen, I'd have faith in Casey. I agree. the odds of being in his favor. So thank you, David Sandine, for that suggestion. I'm a fan of Jake General.

I don't want to see him get smashed, but if this is what the people ask for, you've got to give the people what they want. Patrick Dano is saying that Buckley's moving down to 170, and that might be the case. He's been saying that forever. But if the UFC called him on the phone right now and say, hey, you want to go fight Bo Nickel

instead of dropping under 170, are they walking Buckley saying, okay, I'll fight Bo Nickel on a main card of a massive UFC pay-per-view, probably international flight week. So, yeah, I think that's probably where you're ends up. So all right. I think we are, I think we are done. We have, we have done it. We have survived. I mean, we had a capacity crowd here. And then they just left. Once, once, they didn't,

they, they disliked the Cody Garbrandt Davis-Figuero fight more than anybody in the chat. No, as soon as I brought that, they were gone. I don't think it was the pick itself. They dislike. I think it was the discussion. I think they sensed the, the, the tension in the, in the community. And they were like, um, bad, bad energy coming from there. So I I don't think it was the pick itself necessarily had a problem with it. Yeah, I'm digging my feet in the sand. You're all convincing me that maybe I'm wrong. And even if I am, I can't admit it at this point.

Like, I just got to go, I just got to go and stick to my guns for like another week. And then we'll move on, we'll move on to other things. Knowing my luck, it's going to get booked, by the way. Knowing my luck, I feel like I've made such an airtight case why it shouldn't happen. And it is like almost definitely getting up books now. Incredible. Yeah. incredible. All right. So you guys are the best.

Emmy hour back tomorrow. I'm sure there's going to be a lot to talk about. No doubt about that. I will work on the audio stuff. All right. I brought a mic with me. I promise you. We tried to use it for the Q&A. It didn't work. So this is what we had to do. Sometimes you just got to get after it with what you can do. But I will make sure for the next live show or two live shows from now. So we're already back in 13 days with another pay-per-view. So I'll be back in New York again. it'll be my goal by UFC 287 to have a traveling microphone that I can work so that these audio issues are no longer a big deal.

So, but you guys are the best. Hope you guys enjoyed all the content. Shout out to Jose Young's, our boots on the ground, crush it out in Las Vegas. And then we're going to do it again, 13 days. UFC 286 next week, a card that is really flying under the radar. Let me just pull this up real quick. in Las Vegas, not at the apex, because the apex is being used for some other events that I'm not going to discuss. But this is actually better for UFC fans, because it's going to be in Vegas, it's going to be at the theater at the Virgin Hotel, a nice little intimate setting, with fans who will actually make sounds.

Peter Jan versus Rob DeWa Lich, really. Earlier start time, too, I believe the main card starts at 6 p.m. Eastern, which I'm very excited about. Yeah, Jan versus Marab. Good main event. Nobody's talking about it. And it serves a little more praise. Alexander Volkov, Alexander Romanov. We have Saeeda de Margarna v. Jonathan Martinez.

I love that fight. Vitor Petrino versus Anton Turcaldge. Ricardo Hamos versus Austin Lingot. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Vitor Petrino versus who?

Anton Turcald. Mike, what's his nickname, Mike? I think you meant to say Oh, yes. I think he meant to say Vitor Petrino versus the pleasure man. I forgot all about that. Continue, I'm sorry, continue, I'm sorry. The rebooked, rescheduled Nikita Cryoff, Ryan Span fight is going to happen on this card.

Lucas Breske versus Carl Williams, J.J. Aldrich, Ariani Lipski. Mara Batista is back fighting Guido Kinetti, Tyson NAM versus Bruno Silva, Tony Gravely, Victor Henry, Carlson Harris, Abu Bakar, Normaga, Adolf, the aforementioned Davy Grant, fighting Haffiola Sunsoe, and S-D Dumas takes on Josh Friend. So that is your UFC Vegas One card? Is that what we're calling this one? I am not using hashtag UFC Las Vegas.

You cannot make me. Nobody can make me use that hashtag. I can't wait for the beating tomorrow to talk about this. This is UFC Vegas 71. I don't care that it's not the apex. Come on, UFC. I haven't seen their official hashtag for the event yet, but I have seen people doing hashtag UFC Las Vegas,

and I'm like, that's ridiculous. Yeah, don't love it. That's an absurd hashtag. All right, so enjoy the rest of your Sundays, everybody. M.A. are back tomorrow. And obviously, we have a lot of stuff going on this week. To recap this, talk about the storylines coming out of UFC 285 and everything else.

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