MMA Fighting - On To The Next One | Matches To Make After UFC 326

Episode Date: March 8, 2026

Charles Oliveira is the new UFC “BMF” champion after a delivering a suffocating performance against Max Holloway in the main event of UFC 326 on Saturday night in Las Vegas. Despite claiming the shiny silver belt with a dominant showing, Oliveira’s win was not heavily praised by the fan base. So where do both fighters go after the event? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee discuss what's next for Oliveira and Holloway following UFC 326. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for Caio Borralho after sweeping the scorecards against Reiner de Ridder in the co-main event, Raul Rosas Jr. following his workmanlike win over Rob Font, along with main card bonus winners Drew Dober and Gregory Rodrigues, and more. Plus, the fellas take your matchmaking suggestions at the end of the show. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@MikeHeck_JR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alexander K. Lee: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AlexanderKLee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Have it all with 3-1 Disney Plus. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Well, hello there, everybody, and welcome to a brand new edition of On to the next one. Happy Sunday to us all following UFC 326, a card that, well, I guess ended in mixed reviews. I think that's probably not true. Not a lot of people were very happy about UFC 326. Let's just throw that out there.

But we are here, regardless of if you felt the card was great, if you felt the card was bad, we're always going to be here to discuss what is next for the featured fighters at the event. We're matchmaking following last night's UFC 326 event. We have a new BMF champion. That champion has a name, and his name is Charles Dubranks, Oliver. He dominates Max Holloway and kind of an anti-BMF sort of performance,

but take the BMF title out of the equation. This was an incredible showing for Charles Oliver. He dominates Max Holloway. This fight was not competitive being for a second, but not a lot of people overly thrilled about how the night ended and how the night went as a whole. And we're here to talk about all of that from a matchmaking perspective. I am Mike Keck.

And joining me is the co-host, the co-matchmaker, the Prince of Positivity, and my best friend, Canada's own, stand up for all the Amosahabee fans, the one and only, Alexander Cayley, aka, how are you, my friend? My best friend, there's nothing more BMF

than winning fights, winning fights, cashing checks, setting yourself up for future tell shots and big fights. So big congrass of Charles Olivera. I think this does kind of prove that, like, listen, all belts are props. We say, I say this all the time. Some people don't like it.

I'm sorry, this way it is. Whether you're talking about boxing, MMA, professional wrestling, whatever you want to do, belts are props. Belts are props. In an ideal world, you know, the belt does represent like, oh, the best guy and that there's a, you know, they made their way to it in a logical and meritocratic way.

But, I mean, come on, guys. Even if you guys have only sort of watching, you know, the UFC in the last decade, I think you know that's not necessarily the case. And certainly when it comes something like the BMF title belt, you know it's a fun gimmick it's it was a good idea at the time it's still not a terrible idea and and frankly i don't blame the ufc for like you know putting the bmf title on the line here they they they could not have like predicted that um it would it would turn out this way

could they have predicted that like you know charles when he used grappling to you know a neutralize max and beat him sure but i think you would expect it a submission or finish in there so i don't blame the matchmakers it happens sometimes stuff looks great on paper it doesn't play out that way. But Mike, we've been discussing this like for weeks even before the event. I know you and Jed talked about on the post-fight show. I think we can

kind of put this belt to rest for now, right? And I'm saying go away. It doesn't have to go away forever. I'd be fine if it did. It doesn't have to. Just give a little break. Let's wait for the next right matchup. It doesn't have to be a lightweight. Maybe there's a featherweight matchup. Maybe we finally do the women's BMF next year. Like let's wait. Let us wait.

I kind of wish like in hindsight, you were going to bring this back, you did it in any other division, but lightweight, because I don't think it would have happened a third time. You put it in the best damn division in the sport. You put it in the most exciting division in the sport where all the exciting fighters compete in. So, I mean, when you have Justin Gaichie versus Dustin Porriere and Max Holloway versus Justin Gauchy and Max Holley versus Justin Porier, like it's crazy. And by the way, we all wanted this fight. This is exactly what we wanted. After Charles Oliver done-d dummied up

Matush Gamrot, we were like, like, all right, let's go. Like, this is what we wanted. And I guess be careful what you wish for. I mean, I, this is a smart game plan from Charles. Charles needed to win. No one needed a win on this card. And maybe of all the cards more than Charles Oliver did. Like, people have been counting him out ever since the Islamakachev loss. Like this dude's never fighting for a belt again. All this. he needed to win and he did so so definitively. The problem is you had the BMF, you had everything surrounding that,

the aura of the BMF. And to be fair, I expected a much different kind of a fight. Now, am I surprised that Charles went in and grappled a bunch? Not particularly, but I definitely thought these two were going to throw a little bit more. We're going to get weird and wild. We're going to get the Charles Olivera that was defending the lightweight title

over and over again, who was getting hurt. and getting dropped and then coming out and getting submissions, coming out of nowhere and getting wins, like all these things. You can be, you can have it both ways. You can be totally impressed by what Charles Oliver did last night.

Like, you absolutely can be. The same way you can be totally impressed by what Hamzaa Chamaev did to drink his duplice. But to say, but for people who are like, oh, how dare you say that fight was boring or that fight wasn't entertaining? It wasn't entertaining. It was impressive, but it wasn't entertaining. We're not going back after a night out with our buddies,

ordering a pizza at 2 a.m. and saying, you know what? Let's rev back up the UFC 326 made event. We have to watch that fight again. That fight ain't going in the Hall of Fame. That fight, it's not going to be talked about really again until Charles fights again. Johnings, Zang and, you're saying, is what you're saying? It's not going to be.

No, but again, this is not to take away from what Charles did last night. It was incredible. Max Holloway had laid. had 26 significant strikes in a five-round fight. That's five significant strikes a round for Max Holloway. That's bananas. That is incredible. That is so bizarre.

To look at UFC stats and see like 500 strikes in the Calvin Cater fight to like 100 here, 200 here and 300 here and that's 26. It's crazy. This is an unbelievable performance from Charles Olivera, neutralizing a guy like Max Holloway, who has really good take. defense. But this is not a good, this is not a exciting, this wasn't an exciting fight. It just wasn't. And the, the tough part about it was this card on paper stunk. It was not good. It was not a good

card on paper. The bar was low. We set the bar so low for this, Mike. But the whole thing with everybody's eyes, like, look, this card ain't great. But the main event's got a rule. Like, that main event is just, is, is going to be so fun that it's going to take away from everything. It's, It's going to make up for everything else. It just didn't happen. It just didn't happen. And again, this is not to take away from Charles Oliver. The fight was just not that entertaining.

And again, you could be both things. You could be impressed by Charles and still say, yeah, the fight wasn't all that entertaining. Just because it wasn't that competitive. And that's just the way that it is. This is a tough hang overall. Like, because the rest of the card stunk so bad. And on top of that, AK, the story of UFC 326, had nothing to do with UFC 326.

Nothing to do with it. It was all about the White House fights. If that, I guess I'll throw this question to you that you could add to this. If we got Jones Pereira and Connor and all the fights we wanted at UFC White House, would we feel differently about UFC 326 as a whole in any way, shape, or form?

Because I feel like, well, I don't think the White House card is particularly bad. I also had been around the Dana White, White, UFC for so long where he over promises and under delivers compared to what he says he's going to do. People were livid about this White House car. They were not happy about it. They thought it was awful. I think it's a little unfair. But again, Dana did this to himself by this is the sphere on steroids. This is going to be a sphere times a thousand. All of this. And then we got that and it kind of just took the air out of people's sales. Like I saw it all night in the chats. Like, and these aren't

just like people who complain about everything. These are people watching the sport forever that love the sport, that want to see the sport thrive. People are just kind of over it right now. And then the car just being what it was, it was a tough night, man. It really was. Your thoughts on all of this. Yeah, yeah. I mean, if we had gotten, you know, different White House fights, it would have changed our

feeling of the night overall. I don't think it would have made us forget the stink of UFC 326. I think it's impossible to separate them. You're right. Like looking back on March 7th, sorry guys, I'm losing track of time March 7th we would have remembered it as the UFC 226 and the UFC you know White House card announcement day for sure but I don't think anything going to happen that would have made us leave UFC 226 with this kind of like empty feeling that I think

a lot of us are having right now I just want to say we'll not see about Charles and that said he was trying to finish the fight for the most part maybe later on he settled into like oh I'm up on the cards and and I don't I don't need to take any risk he was trying to finish some of those chokes look pretty rough I think A lot of fighters besides Max wouldn't put away. But the overall sentiment, I think, is correct. Like, people want to see more aggression from Charles, I guess. But he was landing hard elbows, too.

I just can't criticize Charles too much with the performance. If you want to criticize Max, I say criticize Max Holloway. Defended himself really well. I think he did the best he could in the situation. But he's the guy who couldn't get out of the situations. What are you going to do? But either way, these things happen. UFC White House.

It was handled in such a weird way, too. I think we all expected, like, just, do it on CBS, do the announcement in CBS. Hopefully have a cool little video package. Don't do anything too different. But, you know, we had, like, I wish they had almost, you know, we had Jeff Proops, right? The Jeff Prope's Survivor tie-in for the intro to the show.

That was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. I wish they found a way to implement that into the White House fights somehow. Like, just, I don't know, like, you use, you know, Survivor as graphics and presentation and bring them out. Because all they did was say, like, oh, it's coming up after the Dober Johnson fight and they just kind of waited. It was after the first round

of Johnson Dover, they were like, after this fight we're going to. Check it out. And I called it too. I was like, I think the UFC's going to be like, they're not going to announce it on CBS. They're going to tell people hey, if you want these fights, subscribe to Paramount Plus. Which is not. Watch the card. Like not the worst strategy. Honestly, not the worst strategy.

Like if you're trying to push, squeeze out some more subscriptions, I guess, then okay, have at it. And then they just did the standard. Here's the graphic. that they do for so many cards, that they throw out so haphardly during broadcasts. Like, oh, by the way, here's the full UFC 324 lineup in a two months. And it's like, okay, cool.

Like, you know, and then we look at it. We throw in our Slack. We talk about it. We make a post about it. We make a post about those, Mike generally, until, like, Sunday. Like, those posters we got Sunday. This had the same energy. And this was, like, breaking news.

This is like, we're all ready. We're all jacked up. We had all the stuff pre-written. And we're like, oh, they've got to make sure to cover all these permutations. And they just do a graphic up there. No vibes, nothing. There was a little video thing. There was a little video, which I kind of dug because it was like, oh, there's

Ilia. Oh, there's Justin, which by the way, I knew that was coming. Sure. We couldn't say anything, but I knew it was coming. And then we saw Pereira. And I was like, ooh, who's it going to be? And the way they put Cyril on the screen. Like I knew it was serial, but I was watching, I saw a clip of our old friends,

DC and New York Rick reacting. And they thought that that was John Jones at first because it kind of looked like them. Like going back, I'm like, how do I think that? And I went back and watched it again this morning. And I was like, okay, I get it. Like, I kind of get it. But I like the beginning of that because it like got us guessing. Oh, here's him.

Here's him. Oh, there's Pereira. But who's it going to be? Oh, it's zero gone. Okay. So it's not John Jones. And then immediately you could just be like, oh, no. John's on on the card.

Wolf tickets, all of this. And then we got the rest of the card. Jed got a huge kick out of Shott of Malian Amosahabhi, which by the way, let me just say right here on this program, and I said it on the watch party. Shout out to you, Aven Zahabi. I didn't think there was a world, any world where you could get this fight,

and you did it. And it just so happened that it worked out great, that Sean was like, put me on the damn card, I'll fight anybody you tell me to fight. Well, best we can do is Aeman Zahabi. Okay, I'll fight him. Not Corey Sandhagen, who's in the crowd, and clearly pissed off about the whole situation.

It was just, this is kind of the card that we're getting. The O'Malley aim and fight was probably the most surprising of all of them. And then, yeah, we got the Bo-Nickel Kyle Dachas fight. And I mean, what did you expect Bo-Nichael to do? Like, who did you think they were going to get Bo-Nichael to? This is, like, exact what I thought. Dacus or Andre Petroski was kind of like what I was thinking. They were going to go any more than that.

They should have on the Colby fight. Like, that would have been way bigger. but Jed had a great time with the announcement. He laughed his ass off when he saw shot O'Malley versus Aman Zahavi. So apologies, Amin. Good for you, buddy. I'm happy for the guys who got on this card. Again, hopefully they're being compensated extra.

I somehow doubt it. I imagine they're just getting their usual rate. But, you know, because the U.C. is paying them an exposure, right? Like, what an honor to be in the White House card, which is a fair selling point. This card is going to draw some massive eyeballs. But also, because the cars, we know the car is going to draw massive eyeballs, I would hope he would, you know, give these guys proper bonuses and bumps up and pay. But pure speculation, I just don't think that's going to happen.

But yeah, look who we got on here, Mike. Zahabi, I'm looking at Zahabee's, and he kind of deserves the spot based on, I guess, just his win streak. This guy normally fights Canada a lot. He did fight, he did fight it. Do you remember he was a UFC 217, Madison Square Garden? Do you remember that? Obviously, GSP headline. That was GSP busting.

So, you know, the whole Zahabi crew was in the house, right? So I guess that made sense. He lost. He lost there. Then he's fought on the apex a bunch of times. He's fought in Canada a bunch of times. And now he's suddenly fighting. Like this will be his first time, I think, pretty sure, fighting in the U.S.

at an actual, like, venue outside of the apex since Madison Square Garden, 2017. That is so weird. Amazingly good for him. This guy could say he spotted Madison Garden at the frigging White House. It's Aeman Zahavi. Kyle Dachas, my boy, Aaron Bronstetter. Speaking of great Canadians, my boy, Aaron Brown's Center, but I had a tweet that said, like,

this time last year, like, Kyle Dachas was, I think, scheduled to fight on a regional card, and he had been, like, begging, constantly on social media, campaigning, I don't say begging, campaigning on social media to just, like, get back in the UFC, gets back, gets a win, and now he's fighting at the White House. I know he's a big underdog.

I know people are reviewing this as, like, a sacrifice to Booneickle, but Kyle Docs, he wasn't in the U.S. He wasn't in the U.S. I think Kyle's got a chance. A lot of experience. He wasn't in the UFC a year ago. And he's now fighting at the White House. Steve Garcia's last fight was headlining at the apex.

He just headlined against David Onama. And now he's playing at the White House. So I'm happy for all these guys. Michael Chalmers, I'm even happy that he got on there. And he's getting resilient Connor McGregor. So that's kind of fun. It's very strange. He's been preparing for Connor for so long.

I think this is the least they could do for him. Yeah, it's a good card. Like, it's a good card. I think this is the sentiment everyone has. It's clearly a good card. I think it's just the hype and the, you know, it's at the White House. All these things that we were sort of promised when it was first brought up. I mean, we knew it wasn't going to have eight or nine title fights when that came up.

So it's fine. It's a good card. People are going to have a good time. It's going to be, I imagine, partially on CPS and Paramount Plus. So we'll all be tuning in. But I understand the negative reaction to it too. It's just kind of a, it just looks thrown together, which is, which as far as we know it was. Yeah.

I still think they're going to add another fight. Who are you hoping for? Who are you hoping? I think Gabe was going to fight out of it. I think Gabe was going to fight out of it. I wonder if, I don't know if they try to get him on the card. And I see some people saying, like, Steveson versus Derek Lewis was perhaps something that was being discussed.

I don't know that for sure. But why would you do that? It seems like such a silly fight. Just throw Gable in there with like literally the one. worst guy on the roster and just let him style, dude. Just, I don't know. I don't know. I still think they're going to add another fight. I think Gable, it does end up debuting on that card. Probably not against a ranked dude, but just let him go out there and just like murk a dude

in like two minutes. Just go ahead and do that. So obviously we'll be discussing UFC White White House plenty over the next several days and over the next few months. Let's get into the matchmaking, AK. Let's discuss what happens with the new BMF champion, perhaps the last ever BMF champion, if I had it my way. Charles Olivera defeats Max Holloway, dominant performance. Charles Olivera fought Ilya Teporia less than a year ago and got absolutely annihilated. He got left in a pool of his own sweat and blood, unconscious on the mat. So there's no chance he's fighting Ilya.

He's fought Gage. He does have a whatever Gage. So if Gaiji pulls off a miracle, perhaps you can do that. And Charles is like pretty much fought everybody. So it's kind of a, it's kind of a weird spot for him to be in. I'm completely thieving something from Jed that I was thinking as well. So I'm going to go with that. But I'll go with you first, A.K.

What's next to Charles O'Vare? I was really dreading it, Mike, when you said that we had to matchmake for him and Max because I am so, I had trouble for both, man. I was like, they both fought everyone. I mean, Max has more fresh matchups at lightweight, but it feels like some of these lightweight pieces are kind of not necessarily set, but they're in movement already, and I don't know if Max can factor into that.

So, Charles first. I think I just settled on, and keep in mind, I think the Surukion, trying to get a Surukian rematch makes the most sense for both guys, but I don't know what to do with Surukion. I think the last time I talked about Surukion, I said, I want him to fight BSD, and I still think that's possible

just because the UFC does not, feel like they need to put Armand in a title picture, sorry, in a title fight, any number one contenders about it. They do not care. He is the number one contender. They do not care. And they're justified in some ways with some of his antics. So I kind of have Armine off the table.

I think I'm just going to tentatively put Olivera against the Toporia Gatjee winner from the White House. It's a rematch either way. But yeah, it also feels like Toporia may not be long for this division after White House. So perhaps I'm just saying Olivera as one half of a vacant title fight, but until we know for sure what's going on, I'm putting a pin and him getting the White House main event winner. So Jed put it out there. I was thinking the same thing at this point. This way I think's going to happen. I think I'lli Taboria is going to absolutely destroy Justin Gaci. I don't think

that fights can be competitive at all. And I think I'll get Taboria is going to say, I'm done. Islamakachev. what's up. I'm going to go up and fight him. And then I truly believe that'll be the last time we see Iliate Tuporia fight in the UFC. I think he's just going to be done after all this because dude doesn't need to fight. It's one of the few guys on the roster that certainly doesn't have to

makes plenty of money and has lots of it. And we'll continue to make lots of it. So we're going to have to have a vacant title fight, AK. And it's going to be a rematch that we got from UFC 300, Charles Oliver versus Arm and Sarouki. into for the vacant lightweight title at the end of the year. And there you go. Yeah.

I see your solo server, but he should fight Armand, at least before moving up again. I 1,000% agree with you. We all want this. We all want this. He's not fighting him. And he doesn't have to. Saddest thing is like, we all want this hard. We all educated hardcore, you know, MMA fans want this.

Of course we do because we're smart and good looking people. But the UFC does not need, the UFC does not need it. they lose nothing by never booking this fight. We'll always look back. This isn't like Habib Tony, which I think we still feel like something was lost, and they had a little bit of, I don't want to see mainstream,

because I don't think your average person knows who Tony, who Tony is, maybe Habib by now. But the most part they don't, but like Ilya and Armin is like even farther than that. You can make a case for, of course, Ilya having some more global fame, which is fair. But in the grand scheme of things for the UFC, whatever baggage Armin has and what however difficult it would be

to set up that matchup, they'll just be like, it's cool. We'll move on. We have other options. What about Arvin saying you could fight for the title by the end of the year? I just gave you his title fight at the end of the year. That's what's going to be the title fight. He's going to fight Charles Oliver for the vacant belt. Like that's what's going to happen because Ili's going to be Justin,

and then he's going to vacate the belt and go fight his amok, Jeff. So, no, he's not going to fight Arm and Sarukia. I hope he does. I hope he does. I don't want to see another fight more than that one at this point, but he's not going to fight him. He's going to fight Justin. He's going to prize fight the shit out of this thing.

That's what he's going to do. Although Armand is very popular right now. But that fight would be incredible. That would be such a fascinating matchup. I really truly hope we get to see it. But yeah, we shall see. I had a harder time with Max Holloway, though, AK. I had a much different time.

No idea, Mike. No idea. I have two options, AK. Maybe we can go through this together. Okay. What I landed, what I eventually landed on was Benoit Santini

from Max Holloway because that fight's just bananas and at this point like one of two things is going to happen one Holloway is going to win a car crash knockout which would be awesome

or two BSD is going to do what Charles did but actually but really heard him on the ground like just beat the brakes off if it on the ground because that's what Benoit Santini does

I mean that makes a lot of sense Benwasantini's ranked number five it's great the other option AK the other option AK the The other option, and there's nobody to pitch this two better than you. What about Max Holloway versus Patty Pimbled?

What about Max Holloway versus Patty Pimbleau? Are you into this idea? Is the man who has matchmade Patty Pimbleau into the position he's in now? Do you like Max Holloway versus Pettie Pimbleau? I do. Not enough that I think we need to deviate from Patty Pimbleau and Dan Hooker. Like that was sort of our thing coming out of Dan Hooker's last fight. He lost, but I think most of us said win, win,

you kind of just do the fight with him, Pimblit. That's certainly what I said after Pimbleau lost to G. So I'm not off of yet. It makes a ton of sense. If it happened, it wouldn't surprise me. Dan Hooker, I don't know when he's going to get back in there again. He's kind of wishy-washy these days. He's got a lot of lingering injuries too.

He's just been around for a long time. So if he's not free, certainly you pivot to Pimble and Max. Because I don't think Pimbleau could do to Max what Charles Olivera just did. But Pimbleau is, does have some pretty smothering grappling. And he is a big, strong guy. He would be definitely bigger than Holloway. So that's my one fear, which sounds crazy because proud of this fight, I didn't think even Charles could do that to Max.

We'd just never seen Max dominate on the ground like that. He's always had good take-down defense and good submission defense. We've never seen that before. But now it feels like that door is kind of opened and I'm concerned. And I don't want to put Max down this Tony Ferguson path where, you know, it feels like we have these logical matchups that, oh, he should have a chance to win. but then he just keeps, you know, losing and losing and losing. And then I can see it.

I can really see it. As great as Halloween is obviously far ahead. I would put him from Tony Ferguson. I could see that path. So I'm not against it. I would just warn people. You could get a similar flavor to what you saw on Saturday. You're not worried about that at all, Mike?

No, because I think, I kind of think the peak of our worries that it comes to Max came after Alexander Volkovsky perfect gamedom. I mean, that was, Halloway had nothing that night. Like, Holloway, like, at least did, he didn't do much last night. He did lend 26 significant strikes. It doesn't seem like,

like Volcanowski just styled on him for 25 minutes. And I think people were just like, yeah, he's done. He's got nothing left. And then, you know, gets a nice win, ends up fighting Tuporia, has a good first round, then gets obliterated. And then he has the greatest knockout ever.

and defends the belt against Porreier and all that. So, like, I mean, no, because I think I would pick Max to beat Patty. I don't know if I'd pick Max to beat BSD. So, and I don't know if the UFC would just go right from, okay, we learned our lesson with the Gaichi fight. Maybe he just gets dummied up by Holloway, too. I just don't know if they're going to do that. So I agree.

I think if you're going to do Patty versus Dan Hooker, I think you kind of have to do it now. because i think we're running out of time here because i don't know how much dan hookers got left in him at this point a lot going on with that man so bsd is by choice patty versus hooker just makes perfect sense although if they do holloway versus patty i'm fine with that too so there you have it let's continue oh i didn't i didn't give my sorry mike i didn't give my my apologies also by the one thing i got to say i see a lot of this in the comments first like oh you don't appreciate how exciting grappling is if you have little while like you have to listen every

pro sport is difficult. You got to understand. Every post sport is difficult. I understand how difficult was what Charles did. I understand how difficult Max Holloway's submission defense was. Like, we're not denying it's like so respectable and impressive and what a great athletic feed it is for sure. That does not mean you have to appreciate it from a spectator standpoint. I know a lot of people who hate baseball. People who don't watch baseball, they don't like baseball. Hitting a baseball is hard. Throwing a baseball is hard. Fielding a baseball is hard. I wouldn't criticize if you said, oh, I don't watch baseball. It's boring. I don't like it. That's fine. You don't. that's your opinion as a spectator

but it doesn't I don't get to say to you you know a hardest to hit a baseball you know hard to throw baseball and you're not having you're not enjoying this same with I don't know people American football oh there's so much pauses and oh I don't like what offensive line

you're boring blah blah running the run you can appreciate something and respect it and give the athletes their credit and you can still say I did not find it exciting and I did not find entertaining that's that's okay and that's okay but don't go people do not go admonishing other MMA fans who did not enjoy that fight like it's

That's so silly. And vice versa. If you didn't like that fight, I wouldn't go to, I wouldn't go to grappling. Like people who enjoy grappling, go like, oh, that fight sucked ass. Like, it's just grappling. Grappling is boring because that would be wrong too. So I'm essentially doing my usual thing where I'm sitting on the fence and telling us to hug and kiss each other, Mike, is what's happening here.

But yeah, I just don't like the mentality of, oh, this is so hard. So you have to, you be entertained by it. No, that's every sport. That's every pro sport. Well, I hope you have, I agree with you, but I will say this. if you have this energy about Charles Oliver and defending it, you better have that same energy when we start talking about Roll Roes Jr. That was the definition of a fight that transpired.

Like, at least Charles tried to hurt backs in this fight. Roller Roos Jr. to do any of that. But like, if you like elite grappling and Dominic grappling, you got it with Royal Roos Jr. He just did nothing with it. So there you go. So we'll be getting that fight. Someone saying, someone said, so you have to love Power Slap.

I, what, are you listening to where I'm not saying that? But if you like it, if you like it, if that's what you like, then that's what you like. I'm not going to hate, I'm not going to hate on you. And Power Slap is extremely dumb, but I also imagine, yeah, probably pretty, I mean, probably at least from an endurance standpoint, probably difficult. Like I put that in the lower end. I think that's an extreme example. And honestly, not a bad counter to what I'm saying.

But no, I'm just saying, don't yuck anybody's yum. It's like, you're totally. Yeah, you like what you like. you're totally fine with criticizing something. And at the same time, you're totally fine with enjoying that same thing. I don't think there's an objective like, well, if you are this, if you claim to be this, then you have to enjoy this. No, you can be an M.A fan and you can like these kinds of fights and you can not like

these kinds of fights. That's okay. That's okay. I think I draw the line. I'll definitely, I'm with some of these guys, I'll draw the line. If you're saying like, oh, Charles fought, like, I don't know, like badly or like, I totally disagree with that. I think that's a person.

And same with Max. I know I was criticizing Max. But the defense is amazing. That's kind of why you end up with a fight like this. is surviving Charles for five rounds in those situations that Maxcott put in is crazy. It's great. It's a credit to meet to his grappling, not a detriment. Obviously, we'd like to see a little more and be able to counter and blah, but that's hard.

It's easier said than none, right? But like, I like, lazy bed saying, like, you can say like, hey, Charles Dominate, but he, at points, I would say from the third round on, he played it safe. Yep. And that's fine. And that's fine. And that's fair. And he won't easily.

You don't have to be hurt by people set by someone saying Charles fought safe. He fought safe and he won and he's probably going to be making more money because he won. That is a good thing. That is not a bad thing for Charles Oliver. That is a plus I approve of Charles Olvera's fight strategy. My soul to hear that man get booed. I know. Never did I think I'd see the day where Charles Oliverer is booed by 19,000 people.

But again, people are allowed to. Listen, like I said, people allowed to have to have it. I don't have to agree with it. People are allowed to have it. Also, Michael Chandler. Michael Chandler, when lose your draw. I just like to see him fight Max. Sure.

This thing would be awesome. Again, you're getting your, if Max is allowed to just keep the BMF title and if we must you know, push on with this, there you go. Let's give him and two fighters coming off potentially losses to for the BMF belt. Yeah. You could do Max Dan Hooker. You could do could you could you do Max Connor McGregor? I guess.

I mean Max has always always will have a lot of options. He's beloved. He's, he's Max, freaking hallway, man. At Desjardin Insurance, we know that when you're a building contractor, your company's foundation needs to be strong. That's why our agents go the extra mile to understand your business and provide tailored solutions for all its unique needs. You put your heart into your company,

so we put our heart into making sure it's protected. Get insurance that's really big on care. Find an agent today at Dejardin.com slash business coverage. Let's go to the middle-late division, and I will say this, and I feel actually very confident about this, A.K., especially after looking at our Slack channel during this co-main event, there are, no one had more fun watching Kyle Bahalio versus Ryan Yoder-Ritter than Jedd Michoud and I in the watch party. Nobody. I had a blast watching that fight, as did Jed. Nobody else seemed to from what I saw, but I loved it. I thought it was great.

We had a great time. Ryan Ritter is just hilarious to watch compete. It ain't mixed martial arts boat. And Kyle went out there and did the damn thing. He called out for, he called out Drickus Duplice, as he could, has been doing for a while. That's been his gimmick for a bit for a minute. Drickus Duplice, where are you at? Now it makes sense, okay?

Now it makes a ton of sense. So ultimately, did you land on this? Are we going Kyle Bahalio versus Drickis Duplessi next? I love the callout. perfect callout i'm glad he's he's maintaining this i think that is the right way to go i i just feel like the uh maybe the timing might be a bit off because um i'm trying to think when when will they when will drickis get back in there like i think he's doing the smart thing and recovering so let's say obviously this wouldn't let's say they they got matched up it wouldn't happen at 327

no it wouldn't be 328 no i don't be international fight week so june so that's not July 11th is international fight week. So that's not crazy long. The only thing is they do have cards to fill up before then. 327, I think they're pretty solid. 328, I do think they're going to need big fights for that. It just could be a bit of a weight for DDP. And I had previously said Brandon Allen deserves to fight him.

So I'm kind of like not deviating from that. So I do think if I'm going crystal ball, I think there's a good chance that, you know, after last night they're definitely strongly considering Bahia and Duplis. see. But if I'm not taking Brendan Allen DDP off the table, why not Baha'allio and the Adisanya Joe Pfeiffer winner from UF Seattle? Oh, what, what is that? I hear music. That's weird. I hear music. What is that? Oh, count out one, two, three, friends forever. Yeah, there you go. In the Trump dance. That makes sense, right? Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, think they're going to go bread and out i i just think they're going to do it as much as i i don't

love that fight i just think that's what they're going to do at this point um i think they i think you're right i think you have to get if you're going to do kio you're going to have to wait till july or august like you're going to have to wait a hot minute for that fight and i don't think you can wait right now for dd i think you got to get ddp back in there ddp is fun people love them they love watching him fight he's uh he's a goofy man in all the right ways And I don't think you can shelve him another three or four, five months. I just don't think he can. So I love the Kyo DDP fight.

If Cairo has incredible healing abilities, it can fight in May or June, it can fight in May or June, been cool. But I just don't know if you can wait that long at this point. So, yeah, I think the Piper Adasania winner makes sense. And then you can, you can space that out all you want. So there you go. let's go to the panam weight division. Let's go to the aforementioned Raul Roses Jr.

who is now going to be a ranked bantam weight after defeating Rob Fon. There were 30-27s. I could not have hated those 30-27s more, A.K. I thought Rob Fon clearly won the first round. You want to know why? Because he actually did stuff. Landed punches, landed strikes. And then Raul Roses Jr. tackled him and controlled him for two and a half minutes.

And that's literally all that happened. Rob landed strikes, did some stuff. Roller versus Jr. was bleeding from the nose. Damage, by definition, was done by one Rob Font. And nothing was done by Roller's Jr. And then the rest of the fight was Raoul just taking him down a whole bunch. I have to pull this up real quick because I want to make sure this is true before I say it. We've got some stats, Mike?

I'm going to pull up some stats because we're talking about how much we all love the grappling and all that. Ah, there it is. There it is. Raul Roes Jr. last night. 16 takedowns. 16. That is double his significant strike total. Rob Ross Jr.

Outstruck in this fight by Rob Font, by the way. Significant strikes. 10 to 8 in favor of Rob Font. Raul Roast Jr. related eight significant strikes and 16 takedowns. I don't know if I've ever. ever seen a stat line like that. Tough scenes.

Yeah. But obviously over 10 minutes of control time, it was, it was great take down displays, but he did really nothing. I don't know what to do here, AK. Like I, again, I was torn between two guys. Roll Roos Jr. versus Cheeto Vera makes sense. The obvious one, yeah. But like Cheeto just, I don't know, man.

I kind of like Cody Garberamp versus. Cheevera. I just go ahead and do that. I think so I'm going to go that. So I'm going to go with Raul Roes Jr. versus the former UFC flyweight champion, Figgie Smalls himself, Davis of Figuerito. That's what I'm going with.

Call that the test. He fights a former champion. Whoa. I just don't know where else to go here, man. Like I don't, like, I don't want to put him in there with David Martinez. And I don't think the UFC would put those two dudes together. And I think they're going to try to push him up a little bit. they're going to give him a guy ranked higher than him.

And I think, like, of all the options that are available, I think they're going to do Figgy. So that's what I'm going with. I know we do the listener picks later, but Lazy Bed saying he wants Jose Aldo and his emaculate take down defense to come back for a time and to face for Ossus. If that ever, if that happened and, Jose was an underdog, Josie was an underdog,

I would be betting Jose Aldo all day. I think, I honestly think this version of Josie Aldo with a proper fight camp, like just given the standard, like two or three months, would still be Roe Roe versus Jr. And I think, I don't want to be down on Roel, like No, he's 20. He won.

He's a ranked fighter. He's 21. He's 21 years old. He won. This is not the same as the Charles thing about that. Charles was trying to finish that fight. And did, really did substantial damage to Max. I think those elbows, some of those elbows were big. You know, Miles Revere in how you feel about the submission attempts.

Some of them felt close, but again, we don't really how close they are if you're not in there, if not the one in those exchanges. So, you know, and also we shouldn't be comparing Roel Roses Jr. to Charles Oliver anyway, so not fair. But just as far as the grappling goes, there was a difference. It wasn't like, well, they both won the exact same way. Yeah, really hard to gauge Roel right now because I think Fon was the perfect match for him. And I just had never thought what would happen if he won. And he was favor and I did pick him. So I don't know why I didn't have like a pick in the pocket ready still has so much growing to do you you just don't want to throw into the wolves too quickly

so so like that is why i'm landing on chito uh still a tough matchup but someone i think just based on right now with his particular skill set and with his uh uh youth and athleticism that's what makes that a winnable fight after that i'm really and have no idea what's if he beats chito i really don't know what to do he'll be probably in the top 10 i'm not sure how far cheetos fall in the rankings um but yeah let's keep giving him veterans hopefully this helps him round out his skill set because it's looking, like, it's looking a little Makayevy at the moment. Yeah, that's a little Makaiavi. It's a good comp.

Cheevera's ranked number 10, by the way. Okay. So that spots there for the taking. I, and I don't want to get this debate again, I'll just say quickly. Like, I, man, we got to do something about this anti-fighting. And I'm not saying grappling. I'm not saying grappling in general because some people, some grappling is beautiful.

Like I said, I enjoyed a lot of the main event, actually. I love watching Charles Oliver grapple. It's just so, I don't know. It's just incredible stuff the way he can, manipulate his own bodies and opponent's body. That stuff is great. But we are having guys like Roses win without trying to damage their opponents. And that is just so against the spirit of the scoring system.

We got to find, I don't know what they can do. I don't think tweak the rules, tweak the mentality. Fighters, they're just trying to get their paychecks. So whatever, if that's working for you, you keep doing it. But again, just speaking for fans, it's a bit of a tough go at times. So I'm not sure what needs to be done. Yeah, kind of tough to book here. I think it's kind of Cheeto or Figgy. But again, I led it on Cheeto versus Cody.

I think that's fine. Cody calling out David Martinez feels like one of the biggest missteps of the night. I was just like, no, Cody, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He was struggling with Shao Long. And he was David Martinez. He was struggling with Shao. Okay. He should have lost that fight

It's he He did the thing He actually did his job But still like Is he your wild card pick? Is Cody your wild car pick? Can we spoil this now? Because I just want to know if we're going to talk about this fight later

No, he's not my car pick Okay, we should talk about this fight then My wild car pick is truly wild Oh my God It's truly wilder than the fight Wilder than the car ride He is a very This man takes his matchmaking very seriously

I respect the hell of it I don't know if he's into fun and while if the true definition of a wild card, this is what my wild card pick is. But yes, Cody Garbred. That was. Should not have won.

By the way, like, insane. I'm actually clipping off stuff to make a little highlight of that fight, the third round and the decision. When Bruce Buffers said all three judges scored at 28, 27, we were like, I saw you.

I saw you guys. Yeah, I was like, Cody. Joe won. Great. Anti-Cody Parley hit. The anti-Cody Parley hit.

Nope. We turned around. We see Garbray with his arms raised like 10 seconds. I was like, What? How in what world did Cody Garbrot win that fight? Apparently, he won the first two rounds according to two of the judges. Round one had 10,

two of them had 10 nine Garber. Yeah, which is insanity to me. Absolutely insane to me. Zalong did not deserve to win that fight. Let's be fair. Zalong did not deserve to win that fight based on his shenanigans. I don't know what he won all three. He won all three rounds.

He won it, except for the fact that he couldn't stop kicking his opponent in the balls. Like, just don't kick your opponent in the balls. He was, he was dominant. dominating that fight. Dominating, Mike. What was going on? He was, oh, my God. There was a, I guess it was an excellent headbuck.

I think he poked Garber in the eye earlier. What a, like, that was a headbutt earlier. That was one of the funniest fights ever. That was one of the funniest fights ever. It hurt me because I did have the anti-Cody parlay going. But if I was going to lose it, like, that was the best way to lose it. I was just laughing. I was like, I don't feel bad about losing this.

That was super hilarious. But, yeah, I, like, I would give anything, anything, anything, anything. If I could have been with like a group of casual or non-MMA fans, like tuning into CBS for the first time and getting their reaction to that fight because a guy got kicked so hard on the groin and he puked Mike. He puked.

We didn't get to see it. You coward, CBS and Paramount Plus. We did not get to see it. But we did get a great picture captured by I do want a shout out of Zufa photographer Chris Unger. Chris Unger, just one of the

maybe one of the 10 greatest UFC pictures of all time of COVID. Cody just face down in a bucket, puking his guts out. So well done. Well, well done, everyone involves.

Let's, uh, let's continue. We have to, we have to move on. We had, uh, there were some betting discrepancies,

some line movement with the Drew Dover, Michael Johnson fight. At one point, most of the major betting sites pulled it all together. Could not bet on any part of it. Money line, props, whatever,

uh, pop back up on Fanduelable, about an hour later after it got taken down, the fight when is scheduled. And after the first round, I was like, all right, you know, no shenanigans here. Michael Johnson looks pretty damn good. Thought he won the first round.

Thought he was winning the second round until Drew Dober just dove across the octagon and knocked him silly with a nasty combination, gets the knockout win. So Drew Dober gets it done, AK. What do we do with Drew, who has fought almost everybody not going to fight for a belt, may not be a ranked fighter again anytime soon or ever again? And that's okay. that's just fine. He's a fun action fighter and a veteran and, you know,

I'm man enough to say it. Damn handsome man. But where does he go here in terms of his next UFC fight? Rafael, is he? Oh, okay. Yeah. You're giving him the rank fighter. Yeah, I wasn't sure about it.

Because with Dober, you don't need to, like, he's not one of those guys when he wins. You need to like, look, necessarily look up the rankings. You know, he's going, okay, cool, he won. Now, who can he fight? That's like five within five to ten spots to him. It doesn't really matter. Like you said, Mike, he's been in there forever.

They've used him to fight other sort of like fringe contender guys. They've used him just for fun fights. You could throw him in there with anyone from like 10 to 50 in the UFC lightweight rankings, and it would make sense. In this instance, it's just because I think he's fought so many people in his range right now. Or there's people who are booked, who would make sense for him. I landed on Fizizier. They just haven't fought yet.

I think he'd be a cool fight. Fiziv would be a huge favorite, probably at least like minus 300. But again, this is Dober, man. you just never know with this guy. That fight went about exactly as ever predicted. Dover sometimes starts slow and then wins late. Michael Johnson sometimes starts fast and then loses late. And what do we get?

Almost a perfect mixture of that, a second round, brutal second round. Almost one with this. Almost one with Drew Dover versus Jim Miller. But I said, nay. I'm not doing that. What I am doing, AK. I'm not going quite fazevish. but still fun and crazy and weird.

There's no way this is not a car crash. It's not a rank guy, but is an exciting man who's never in a boring fight, even though he doesn't win a whole lot of them, especially as of late. Drew Dober versus Matoush Rabetschki. Let's go. There's no way that fight doesn't absolutely rule,

and someone's going nighty night in the first seven minutes and 30 seconds. I thought two things there. I thought you were going to, I had to check if Terrence McKinney was booked, because I thought that's where you were going. He is fighting Kyle Nelson in Seattle. And they fought already. And they fought already.

And sure enough, it ended in the first round. But I would run it back again. I would run it back again. And at some point in the future, I think Vegas would take, like, the under off the board. I think, don't think they'll let you. Like, it's just no point. It's just we all know, or it would be minus $100,000. Just no incentive.

But yes, Marebechki. Oh, man. Adobar. Dober's so fun. I hope health-permitting, he fights another like 20 times in the UFC. It's just awesome. Oh, yeah. Just absolute lunatic.

Let's go to the back to the middleweight division, AK. We have the ageless wonder that is Robocop, Gregory Rodriguez, Greg Kopp himself, knocking out Bruno Ferreira, getting the big win in the rematch, exercising the demons, one right hand, right down the pipe. Ferreira goes down in a heap. Rodriguez stands over his lifeless body, gets the win. And since the Jared Cannoneer win, four in a row, AK, right? Four wins in a row?

Finishing three of them? Guys on a nice little run right now. He's been fighting very frequently, too. So where I'm going, AK, is this manager's got a big win. I think he deserves one last opportunity to, like, get in the ranking, I mean, to get up in the top 10, give him an opportunity to see if he could be an interesting guy in this division. One of two things can happen here.

One, he gets the win and now we have another really exciting contender that's really intriguing and you know, maybe he can be this guy who could beat this guy and this guy. Or option B is, okay, this guy's not going to fight for a belt. It's not going to be a top five guy,

but he's just going to be an absolute heaters every time he fights. So, probably a fight nightmate event. I would say probably at the world. most famous Apex, Gregor Rodriguez versus Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. I think I hear, I think we need the band.

Hold on. Oh, now? Now? All right. Three, two, one. Friends forever. Robocop versus the fluffster. I mean, we got to do it.

I think that's just kind of the way to go. I think Gregory, yeah, it is time for him to get another crack at the top 10. He just, he really has the skills to do it. And also we kind of want to see, really want to see how Fluffly bounces back because tough loss of Sean Strickland. I mean, a lot of us predicted that that could happen. Very, just very tricky guy to fight, you know, a former UFC champion. And Gregory might be the test. Could he totally overwhelm Gregor Rodriguez?

For sure, for sure he could. Could he also kind of get hurt by Gregory Rodriguez and outg grappled, especially early in the fight? Yeah, that could happen too. Are we talking an apex main event? Oh, it's definitely an apex. Okay. Definitely an apex man. It has to be, has to be.

All right. Love it. Okay. Let's go to the wild card round AK. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to let the anticipation build for my super dupey wild card round. Roman Deleide's A is booked by the way, solar serpent. So we can't do that just yet. Let's select one fighter we've not match made four and we'll match make for them right now. AK, who is your wild card selection from UFC 326? I lied before. I forgot. I did big Cody, Garbrant. I did pick, great. I was like, I was like, oh, yeah. I did. Okay. So I We don't want to take up with the Xia Long Fight again.

We just did. Cody Garbrandt. I got to stop saying just Cody, because again, we had to remember. This was a three Cody card. We had Cody Brundage, and we also had Cody Durden. Garbrand, listen, you got away with one here. You got away with one again. You totally got out of a fight.

Again, I don't think you deserve to lose. You didn't deserve to win either. And I hope your, you know, the particular area is healed and feeling fine, as well as your gastrointestinal. I've made this pick before already, and I think I made it for Cody. I think the last time Cody won a fight I made a pick.

He has to pay for breaking up the anti-Cody Parlay. And he has to do it again. I can't believe this hasn't been made yet. They made my boy, Desmond Blackshare, fights someone else and catch an L. But guess what? I still think he, Cody Garbrandt cannot escape his fate. This is a final destination situation. You cannot escape the Cody killer.

Give me Cody Garberant and give me Desmond Blackshear. It has to happen. I'm sorry. It has to happen. What a time. What a time. All right. Time to get real weird.

Because while Jed and I had the most amount of fun watching Kyle Baha'iolio versus RDR, what I came, the biggest takeaway was that, oh, Kyle Bahaio is back in the wind column. He's back on track, good performance. My biggest takeaway is, yes. Now, Ritey to Ritter can leave middleweight and go up to 205. Because the fight that Jed Mishu put out after he got absolutely annihilated by Brennan Allen was to me the perfect fight. It was RDR moves up to 205 and fights Dominic Reyes. This was the perfect fight. Now, A.K., Dominic Reyes is booked.

He is fighting Johnny Walker. So RDR needs some time to get up to 205, maybe lift some weights, do a little crossfit, get those numbers up on the barbells, right? there is a guy at 205 who held a belt who is taking his time recovering from injuries I think he fights this year but maybe not until a little bit later we could space this out a little bit so my wild card selection following UFC 326 and a light heavyweight matchup in a co-made event of a numbered card coming near you Rineer during you Rineer Ritter makes his UFC light heavyweight debut against sweet dreams Jamal Hill. That is the next fight for Riteer to Ritter.

I hate you. That's it. I hate you. And I guarantee you, Jamal Hill will dare to be greater than he's ever been. And then when he ultimately gets need in the belly by Ryanier to Ritter, he's going to say, came back a little too soon, but I wanted to get out there for you fans. Nobody better in this spot than Jamal Hill. That is such a light heavyweighty, light heavyweight fight.

That is the new, like, you know, we talk about middleweighty, middle weights. Like light heavyweight has become that division now. You just look at something in the matchup, you're just like, oh. Like these matches make sense, but you're also just like, oh, like, am I going to enjoy this? But that might be, I agree, Mike. I think that would tilt towards more the fun end of the light. heavy weighty, heavyweight ladders. Ladder Hill, I don't know.

I mean, there's just no way that fight is absolutely bonkers. Had not contemplated this fight for potential to fight for a single second like before this moment. So well done. Thank you. Thank you. I think that might be my best wildcar pick ever right there. I feel so good about it.

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Enjoy in-store prices without leaving your home. You'll find the same regular prices online as in-store. Many promotions are available both in-store and online, though some may vary. All right, let's turn it over the peeps, by the way, shout Scott McCrae. Remember, for 39 months said he had more fun watching the watch party. You're not alone in that. I woke up to a whole bunch of DMs of people telling me the same thing. Like I said, nobody enjoyed watching UFC 326.

Really? But nobody truly enjoyed watching it more than Jed and I did. We had a great time. We always have fun. S. McGee, Super Chat. White House card feels half right. Should have been Ilya versus Armin. Alex, Sean versus Corey, nickel versus Covington, Chandler versus Edwards, like Leon Edwards?

I think you mean Mazol versus Edwards. You have to be Moswell. That fight. Mazdaul Edwards should one billion percent been on that card. Steveson versus Lewis. That's a good one. I still am not, I'm holding out hope, holding out hope that Gable Steven still fights on that card. That would be a huge like get for him if he becomes the like the extra fight. like the secret fight because again they didn't really give a ton of pomp and circumstance to this lineup so like to be to get his own individual announcements somewhere down the road would be would be really big that'd be really huge yeah all right let's go to to you guys lise bids is rd rdr versus jang ming yang sure sure we're getting crazy now i you know he's going to 205 the sky is the

limit honestly this guy's oh yeah he's got to go to 205 like he ain't RDR could fight for a bell of 205 he never fighting for a belt of 185 in the UFC it's never going to happen but 205 two wins and he's literally there right now so be real fun uh Joseph Charles versus BSD Kyle versus DDP Roses David Martinez Dober Torres Robocop Fluffy Cody Garber and Kyler Phillips I have already admonished Joseph in the comments for Torres and Doberra fought. Oh, no. And Torres is already booked. Torres is fighting, uh, Darius, I think. Yes. Two days. Three days out. Yep. Tristan also, uh, threw that out there as well. Come on, guys. DJ's already out. Dober versus Jalen Turner for science. I actually,

golly, I actually like that. That makes a lot of sense. There's so many good matchups for him. Yeah. Okay. I go away. I love your dover. Fregan rules, man. Jared Oliver Serukin 2, no BMF. Yes. Max BSD. There you go. Kyle Adasania Piper winner. Roses versus Venetius Olivera.

I don't think Vinci's fight in Bannon Way anymore. He said, I mean, he says he is though. I don't think he's been any. Oh, no, no. He said he wanted to go to 145 and maybe fight Aljo, right? That's his whole thing now, right? Yeah. If I go up, but I don't think he would like locked in.

I don't think he would like locked into that. Dober Rebatchie, Johnson, Jim Miller, loser, retires. Boy, we need more of those. more loser retires fights retirement fights like just add some sizzles of the steak i love that i don't know we're only 74 events away from ufc 400 i feel like we need to keep jim around a little bit longer i kind of think jim would win in that fight anyways at this point but it's fine uh contender series i still say and been saying for years that guys on like three or four fight losing streaks in the ufc that are like both fighting for their jobs and the ufc are fencing them they should just put them

a contender series main event and the winner gets resigned to a four-fight deal and loses out. I think that's terrific. Robocoff Fluffy, Garbrand Munoz, too. Munoz is like, is still fighting. I think he's still wants to fight. I don't think he's been released for anything.

He's just... Yeah, he's just... He's doing anything. I always say he's like a Uriah Fabor nickname guy, like the Young Punisher. I love it. Never changed it. Who was the last... I thought. I had to look it up. Just right, but I'm looking at it right now.

Amon's a hobby. November 24. So well over. Wow. Well, yeah, it feels longer, right? All right. Just noticed the Mike Heck Jr. I made fighting sign behind Mike.

Didn't think that was year yesterday. It was there. It's been there this entire time. It is a cool sign. Had a local person. Carver a little wood. Got a couple of things that they made. So shout out to them.

I don't remember their name. I'll try to get it for you. But they were really good. They made a lot of stuff from my family for Christmas presents. So really cool stuff. Found them at like a like a craft fair. Like something that's happened like across street from our house. And we saw their stuff.

And yeah, they were incredible. So excellent. What else we got? Solar Serpent. Oliver BSD, Holloway Patty, Bahali O'DDP, RDR, Fluffy. Roses versus Cheeto,

Font versus Jackson. Montel Jackson's booked, by the way. Rodriguez versus Roman Deli. Roman Delizte also booked. So a little bit of doo-doo there, Solar Serpent. Come on, Solar. A little bit of do-do there. We're all friends here.

We've got some bickering in the check guys. We're all friends here. We call out do-do with love, and so we can all be better people. Because trust me, Mike and I have had our fair share of do-do on this show. I can't remember a couple of weeks ago. It was like, I think I booked someone to fight someone who fought like a week ago. It was just horrible. I don't even want to bring it.

I think I blocked it out. It was such a horrible pick. Yes, Montel-Jackson fighting Hione-Barsell-Sel-Fort. I believe April 4th. I'm in April first supported by the great folks at mayfighting.com. Roman Deleuze is fighting Christian Leroy Duncan at UFC London. Right, right. U.C. London, right.

What else we got? What else we got? Dober versus Foreszzium. No. No. Fores deserves a ranked dude. I don't know. I don't know.

To Drew, but I mean, what else is this guy to do to get a rank guy? Max Holloway? Oh. Can you remember? They would never. I can't. They would never do that. Max wouldn't say no.

Max wasn't said. Max, I'm actually fine. I'll buy whoever, but I can't see the UFC. Why would I would love to see it? Uh, you're surprised Lewis isn't on the White House.

Yes and no. His last performance was tough, man. That Waldow fight was, was not good. So I am a little bit surprised. But I don't know. We could still get another mystery fight. It's very possible.

Maybe we'll get two. If you do Gable versus the worst dude in the roster, and then you do Derek Lewis versus like the second worst dude on the roster, like both those fights are getting in very quickly. So it doesn't take up a lot of time. But I don't know, man. Paramount was on one last night. They're like, what can we do to make this broadcast go as long as we possibly can?

And they were just like, let's just make all those decisions. What a slog. Terrible. Terrible pacing. It was so bad. And they were doing so good. Like 325, I felt so good about things. They fixed all the problems.

It moved swiftly, even though the card, like, had very little stakes. But it moved great. We saw all the walkouts, like all the things we disliked about the UFC 324 broadcast. They picked things back up for 325 and then 326 is the worst of them all. So stinky. This was just a dreadful watch for so many reasons. Oh, good Lord, man. I'm glad.

You're lucky you guys at Paramount Plus. We're still paying a 79-99-CAD for pay-per-views up here, by the way. And we're not the only ones. Other countries, too, man. Other countries got to pay that pay for you. Hermann, Olives, Armin, 2, Kyle Fluffy, Rosace Chito. Oh, no, we didn't. No, no.

There's a lot of people. Justici, RDR Costa, 205. I like that. Font versus Asakura. Yeah, I've seen a lot. I think we had this last week, too. Oh, Mikey, maybe this is the episode you weren't on. But yes, I've had some people recommending 135-pound matchups for Kyosakar,

which is what I think should happen. I'm tired of him. I just don't believe in him. him being a contender at 125. I think it's a huge cut. And I just think he'll be a better or more refreshed fighter at 135. He'll be giving up size to people in some matchups. That's fine.

It happens. But yeah, I welcome all Kaiusakura of phantomweight matchups. I do hope that's where he ends up staying. Sorry, I had to be apparent for a moment. Oh, okay.

No worries. I'm just looking at the comments. Do you have anything else? Do you have anything else? And the lights kept going out. Yes, that happened too. Oh, gosh. What a disaster.

What a disaster. I know I know you guys said the Paramount Plus broadcast had some issues. I was watching a blackout during the main event. Just two minutes of the freaking main event. That's rough. And then I like on the watch party, we switch it to the Portuguese broadcast and it played fine. And then a minute in the Portuguese broadcast.

That one shit the bed too. It was just, it was unbelievable. I bought it through Fight Pass in Canada and it was all good. No issues. Good for you. Yes. Lucky me.

Lucky me. R. R versus Cleal Roundtree at 205. I like Jamal Hill he'll fight better. I think so too. If he beats Jamal, we can talk about him and Khalil. If he beats Jamal, he's a win away from fighting for

the belt, probably. Yeah, and maybe it's Kalil. Maybe it beats Cleal. Maybe it is. Do we have anything else? Can we talk about Patchy makes getting soccer kicked in the Sun-Sniffer? Boy. Tough run for Patchy. To a teenager, man. To a teenager. I can't know who it was that tweeted it. I know I know Gravaca

man retweeted it but something like i maybe was him that said it but like um the guy who beat um the guy who beat patchy mix i'm sorry i should remember i wish remember his opponent's name kioma akimoto a teenager um is a more exciting young prospect than rollo ral rosa's junior and i'm like who he is yeah he is very good don't i mean he's he is a talented kid no doubt about it but this kid at 19 already that polished like he's just nuking everybody that's a great win i think Patch is a minus 450 favorite heading into that fight. He just beat that ass, man. Crazy stuff with patchy mix.

Really, really crazy. Do we have anything else? Oh, Lazymede. Bellamy or NCAA champ. Match make her a debut fight. Oh. So what would... Now, hold on, hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Has she not... She has competed in M.A. She has. Yes. All right. So let's go.

Let's take a look what she has to be. No. debuted at a catch weight. Okay, so, you know, around, let's say just her most recent fight. Flyweight. So she made, oh, that was weird. It looks like she made 125. I'm just like a topology.

It looks a bit funny, but. So, yes, I imagine we're aiming for 125. I think that is the goal. I am saying she weighed in 130. Maybe she can't. Maybe she's a bantam weight. Hmm. What does?

Sherdaugh classifies her is a bantam weight. Okay, so let's play it safe. Let's say for her first fight, also let's say, you know, not worried, but a big weight cut, bantam weight. Oh, boy, let me dig into my rankings here because I don't know if I could name 10 women's bantam weights out the top of my head. There's a lot of options. I'm not sure who's booked here already. Let me pull up my rankings. Haley Cowan.

I think she is booked, though. Oh, yeah, that's perfect. Pretty sure. Pretty sure she is books. She's like Alice Pereira. There you go. So, you know what? The winner of that, there's the Bellamere sweepstakes.

How about that? But I have a feeling we won't see Bella. I mean, I don't think she's at that level yet where she could be in the EOC for like at least a year. Let let her keep fighting the regional scene because she's doing fine. She's doing fine. She's getting finishes. She looks good down there. Obviously, she had taken some time off away from M.A.

To focus on her wrestling career. Very good decision. She's now an NCAA champion. But yeah, I think it'll end up being someone in that range. I try to see if there's arena, Alexiva. Arena, Lexiva. Yep. Josian Nunes.

How Josian, how dare you? Not my Josian, who I once thought would Chelsea Chandler, someone threw out. I think that's pretty good.

Yeah. She could bake. I don't know if Chelsea can make 135 at this point in her career. Yeah, that's kind of it. But she's not fighting anytime soon.

She wants to make an Olympic run for what, 2028? 2026. No, 2020. What are you're in now? We're in 2020 now, 2028. Yes, 2020, 2008.

So I don't think we're going to see her do this for another couple of years, maybe three, four years. I don't know. So it could be a minute, but. She got time. She got plenty of time. Yeah, Haley Cowan is probably the perfect about it, if we're being honest with ourselves.

But it'll listen, by the time 2020 rolls around, we'll have some fresh bantam weights, I'm sure, to put Bellamere up against. I think the UFC is targeting international player of Connors' turn. Yeah, it's pretty obvious. there's no reason to put him on the White House card you need Connor is uh Connor's a money bad guy like he makes you money so putting him on a whitehouse card where you don't sell a ticket is silly gooseery yep and bad business so of course the UFC is making money hand over fist but why not make more money that's the way I see it so

all right I think we have done this uh we have we have done the matchmaking here A.K., we are back. So back at the world's most famous Apex next week. We are very much back. Mike, I haven't looked. Is this card better than 326, like from the co-main event, like down? Well, let's see. I'm looking with you.

Okay, I've written up these fights, and I honestly just don't remember what you. I know I've written up with these on the website. Okay, let's go. All right, well, let's pull this up. Duke Bad Duck, Charles B.S.D., Kyle Pfe, or Izzy winner, Dober, Oki. he wins next weekend Robocoff Fluffy Bellato everyone does the Bellator thing

versus the Kazakh light heavyweight that fought the same night Oh yeah DR yeah DR yeah Shut up, shut up Norgazai yeah Okay Is this card top to bottom

better than 326 You guys in the chat decide Main event This clearly is not on paper better main event than Max Hollowe versus Charles Lovera. I do think this will end up being more fun than Max Holi versus Charles Lover. Yes. And I think we're also comparing it to like, like I said, let's say we're comparing from like

Marul Roses and down. Like not, I know you can start even start at the Coleman event. Like I think this would be a more exciting fight than, uh, Baha'ioteo DDP. And that wasn't a bad fight out there. Bahio DDP was fine. Um, I think this would be more exciting than that should be. Josh Emmett versus Kevin Valleos.

I think we're, we all know what the UFC is trying to do here. But Josh Emmett hits really, really hard. So we'll see. Co-main event? It's a good one at 115. Mandalayas, Julian Robertson, we've rebooked that one. Featured about Omar C versus Iwan Kuchelaba. Unless we get D1-E-1, violent potential.

I hate this of the Apex. This man was cheered like Connor McGregor in Paris last time. Umar C. This is ridiculous. Just putting him in Apex is so stupid. I don't know when they're going to Paris again, but God, at least like any international card you have coming up, does it has a fan base outside of America. Andre Feeley versus Jose Delgado.

Okay. No, I mean, I, when I, when I first was like, they're going back to the apex, I was like, I bet they're doing Marwan Rahiki versus Harry Hardwick at the apex. I mean, with London coming up, like literally two weeks after that, like, we have to put this at the apex, right? Got to put Harry Hardwick at the apex. What the? Yep, that's the thing that's happening. Why? Yep.

Vitor Petrito versus Stephen Aspland. I'm starting to think this might not be better than USCT26 on paper. Okay, go on, I'm sorry. Bruno Silva versus Charles Johnson. That's going to be fun.

Yes. Brad Tavars versus Eric Anders. I could get a double retirement here. So middle lady. In the Apex, Eric Anders, his last fight? Like,

I know he's not a future Hall of Fame. I think this is true. I think this is literally the last fight on his deal. Yeah, he said that. He said many times. His last fight. His last fight. Oh my gosh.

Uh, could we not have, uh, whatever, it's Apex. Okay. And there are people there now. That's what, 1,000, 2,000 people now? Okay. Chris Curtis versus Micta Beck to Beck-Oryl by. Oh, action man all the way. I'm like oddly fascinated by that fight.

Yes. Every Chris Curtis is fascinating. It's fascinating. Because Chris Curtis is like elite take down defense. But Mick DeBac is just such a beast. Uh, we got Bolaiochi versus Manuel Sosa. We got Luan Lucerta versus. Hecker Soza, Hatcher.

So it's like, excuse me, Bia Mosquita is back. Oh, first sponsor on Rendon. Elijah Smith is back against Sue Yang-U and Piero Rodriguez versus Sam Hughes. The Sam page. I hope this isn't finalized because you should put Bia Mosquita on the main card. I know it's women's Bantamway. I know it's like one of the more lacklister divisions, but I do think she's like a finisher. Yeah.

I would put her on the main card, but all right. Yeah. I think that's fine up yet. Yeah, that's the lineup. Oh, gosh. I'm hoping before the end of the week, you can still get tweaked because. Yeah. Like, Charles Johnson, Bruno Silva should also be in the main card.

Ranked fly weights. Like, that fight's going to be really fun. Chris Carter's booked a back oral buy should also be on the main card. And B.M.Skeeda should also be on the main card. So we should shuffle a bunch of stuff here. It's a weird card. I don't think it's better than 326. No.

Okay. But it's pretty tough when, like, we have to. when we have to think about it a little bit. Yeah, should not even be a, should not even be a discussion. Good news. 5 p.m. Eastern prelims, 8 p.m. main card.

And there you have it. That is, what's this? UFC Vegas. 1.14. 114. 114 is what I'm seeing. UFC Vegas 114. And then after this is London.

And then after this is Seattle. So rocking and rolling. Then back to the world's most famous apex. And then to Miami we go, April 11th. So lots going on. When's our next break, Mike? I believe. Not for a while.

I'm clicking ahead. Like sometime in May we did. Yeah, yeah. I think after we, oh no, Burns Malat. Oh my God. This is nuts.

Wait, Burns Malotte is in. Okay, there's a. April. Oh, April. Yeah. After Perth, it appears. Oh, no, because I think 328. Yeah.

I think it's after. It's May 9th. Yeah. They're not going to do a card May 16th. Yeah, so that's it. So, yeah, May 16th, because they're not going to do a card when they do Ron to Razi, Gina Corado. That'd be absolutely silly. That's a long time from that.

Yeah. Good. And they're going to Macau and May 30th. So still the dreaded TBD versus TBD for that. So, yeah, get some rest, everybody. I know the clock sprung ahead a little bit that throws us off a little bit. Yeah. You know, maybe go to bed an hour earlier tonight.

Let's catch up on the sleep that we lost on Saturday. And you guys are the best. Thank you so much. Yes. For stick with us. Obviously more on the fallout of UFC 326, UFC Whitehouse, all of that coming up up throughout the week on BTL, other programs. Have a fun interview with Ghizim.

Salmani coming up, who is the former WWB tag team champion. He has BKFC debut this weekend. So that's coming up. And of course, we'll have some other stuff as well. So for A.K.I. I. Mike Heck. Thank you so much. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, everybody. We're out of here.

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