MMA Fighting - On To the Next One: Matches to make after UFC Mexico

Episode Date: March 30, 2025

Make it two straight wins for two-time flyweight champion Brandon Moreno following a competitive decision victory over Steve Erceg in the UFC Mexico main event. Is it time for Moreno to be booked for another title fight or should other contenders at 125 pounds get a date with Alexandre Pantoja first? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting’s Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee discuss whether it makes sense for Moreno to return to the title picture especially with UFC 320 announced for Sept. 13 in Mexico. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for non-stop action lightweight Manuel Torres after he scored the biggest win of his career over Drew Dober, 20-year-old Raul Rosas Jr. as he continues his impressive win streak, plus main card standouts Edgar Chairez, David Martinez, and Kevin Borjas. All that, plus a spectacular set of matchup suggestions from you, the listeners. Follow Mike Heck: @m_heckjr Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Where does Brandon Marino go? Does he get a title shot? Flyweight's a little mucky right now, especially with Alexander Pantosia awaiting the announcement of who he will defend his flyweight title again. So a lot going on there. We'll discuss that and much more on today's show. I am Mike Hack.

And joining me is the co-host, the co-matchmaker, the Prince of Positivity. And my best friend, Alexander, K. Lee, AK, happy. Sunday as we record and it is just nice to come on here and do something we haven't done, I feel, in months. Talk about a UFC card that was good and fun. Funny how that works. Isn't it funny? Isn't it funny my best friend, like how somewhat refreshed and rejuvenated and how excited we are when there's like a quality card? If this was the level of UFC cards every week, you'd hear no complaints from us in the so-called MMA media. We would just be like, yeah, UFC is crushing it, not just financially, but critically.

We're all having a great time tuning every week. I don't have time for my family. I don't have time for other sports because I'm so in to these quality UFC cards. So yes, this was a fine showing for the promotion. Great crowd. Great matchmaking. You know, huge props to the matchmakers. I know sometimes people see some of these mismatches on paper and roll their eyes.

But listen, this is kind of how you make great cards. You need fights that are going to lead to exciting finishes. And when you want some competitive scraps on their, as well. And then you want a quality main event, and that's what they delivered. I gave this card a pre-flight degree of difficulty score lower than UFC London, which I think makes sense. I think London, because there's a little bit more, maybe a little more name power, there was a chance for sort of more drama, more excitement, and obviously didn't pan out that way. I gave that card a seven, and it came nowhere close to a seven, probably failed mark, maybe below 50%. This card, I said,

a slightly lower, 6.8, and it came, I think, really close to fulfilling that. Maybe it could have used one more like banger. But it's like a 6.5 at a 6.8, 6.4, 6.5. And that's really good. That's really good. We're talking with fight nights. Free, well, free with ESPN Plus, I guess, or a fight pass description in my case. But yeah, it delivered its promise on paper. And with the UFC these days, that's all you can ask for.

Yeah, this is an enjoyable one. As I'm listening to the Mexico crowd, I just keep in my head, I just kept going through Mark Shapiro's quote of our fans, whether it's a pay-per-view or a fight night on the road or at the mighty apex, it all looks and sounds the same. I'm like, are you crazy? Are you crazy? Can you imagine that car is at the apex? Like, it would have been still okay, but like soulless. The crowd actually, like, made some of the tough scene fights so much better. And by the way, anyone who is against wash, like sort of mismatching and allowing some of these problems, aspects are trying to build to look incredible.

If you have an issue with that, I don't know what you're doing because that rules. Everything about that is awesome. And that's what makes some of these fight night cards better. Boy, wait until we run down next week's car, which I thought was way better in my mind until I actually saw it. Tough scenes. But that's for later on the program. Let's talk about the assassin baby Brandon Moreno, AK, coming out of 2024, kind of a tough, or coming out of 2023 and, you know, of the way through 2024.

Kind of a tough run for Brandon Moreno. Where is he going to go? Is he still an elite fighter? Then he has that masterclass performance against Amir al-Bazi where he just beat the hell out of that man for 25 minutes. Then he gets Steve Ursaig in Mexico after losing all of his previous UFC fights in his home country and goes out there.

Competitive fight. I scored it 4946 from Moreno. I know a lot of other people scored it the same. But this was one of those fights where Erseg was much more competitive than the scores would indicate. It's a fight that I think Erseg is going to go back and rewatch. It'd be like, man, if I just did a little bit more, if I just tried to hurt this man a little bit more,

he might have stolen this one. Like Brandon Moreno looked fine and got the win, and it was nice to see him get a win at home and see the emotions pour out of him. But still, a fight, Steve Erseg could have won, had he done a little bit more, but the story is about Brandon Moreno, A.K., and as you mentioned earlier, Alexander Pantoja is the champion. He's been rumored and reported at about 700 fights and 700 dates on social media.

That shit drives you insane. But one of the big ones early on was he was going to fight Kai Kair, France at UFC 314, and that was something that seemed to be in the work, seemed to have been discussed, and seemed to be a report that people are sort of taken seriously. that fight is not happening at UFC 314. Then there were talks about maybe in June. That's three months away, less than three months away. We're approaching two months away.

Still nothing on the Pantosia side. And since Kai Kar-France got his knockout win against Steve Erseg, Brandon Moreno has won twice. Manel Kopp has won twice. Finishing both of his opponents, both ranked, one in a main event. Moreno has two main event wins. Tough scenes for Kai Karah.

France right now and then on top of this AKs we talked about on the post fight show, the UFC is going back to Mexico on September 13th, I believe, for UFC 320 in Guadalajara. And at this point, you could just bench Pantosia and just have him defend the belt against Moreno on that card because that would make those fans very, very happy. So a lot of craziness going on at 125 right now. Brandon Moreno feels he has done enough to warrant a fourth fight with Alexander Pantosia. and I think you can make a case for that but I ask you my best friend

my co-matchmaker who is Brandon Moreno going to fight next? What is next for the assassin baby after this victory? Let's not forget, he's also beaten Kai Kai twice. Brandon Rano has two wins over Kai Kar-France so I mean I know people go like oh well the most recent fight was so many years ago

but there was nothing that's happened since that's made us call like oh well Kai has jumped over Brandon I mean no other than Brandon losing to Pentosia in a title fight and and people wanted to fresh matchup for Pantosia, which it wouldn't even really be because Pantosia, I think Pantosia has also beaten Kai, right? Am I?

He has been, wait, wait, no, no, no, no, I'm making that up, right? Was it on tough? Oh, on top. I'm sorry, yes, yes, yes. So if you count that, he's also fought Thai, but he would be a fresh matchup, yes, if you are not counting the ultimate fighter, which, again, fair enough. Some people, same with the Moreno trilogy. Some people only called, you know, a two-fight series because the first fight was on tough.

But anyway, the point is he has stepped in. into a cage with Kai Cara France as well. So Kai just really doesn't have an overwhelming case other than the timing working out, or at least we thought it did. But like you said, now that's 214 doesn't appear to be in the cards. Now the timing is wide open, if anything, it makes more sense from an L. Kopp. So that's kind of where I'm going with my Moreno pick, because I agree, Moreno has done enough to earn another shot, whether it's against Pantosia or Kopp,

again, about that has not been booked. I think we talked about it a lot after Cop's win. Kopp has just looked truly fantastic recently. Again, not a fresh matchup because Kopp and Pontoja fought, but of all the rematches or trilogy bouts or tetralogies or whatever that Pantosia could do, I think Kopp is the most intriguing right now. Again, it opens the door for if Kopp beats him. Then you can get fresh match house with Kopp and Karin-France and Renam-Ran.

So that bout like has to happen. I just, I'd really like to see Kopp jump the line. or jump the line that was supposedly there with Kai Karra, France. Get the Pantoja fight. Moreno can sit and wait, like you said, until September. Hopefully Pantosia's next hell defense can happen before then. 316, maybe. Maybe. He's squeezing 316.

And then there's enough time for him to, you know, turn around at 320 health permitting. So, yes, hypothetical Pentosia cop winner for Brandon Moreno. I just can't, I have no idea who he could fight instead. I'll be very amazed, Mike, if you have another option. for him. All I have in my mind is that he fights for the belt of UFC through 20. Doesn't matter. Like, I don't have a name. Like, the pecking order right now, like, if I'm the UFC is the way I'm looking at this, I would have Brandon Moreno at number one. And I would just bench pants until September. Not what I would like typically want to see. Because I mean, anytime I get to watch Alexander Pantosha fight, it is a treat. He is so good. He is our,

number three pound for pound fighter right now. And even that, like, you can make a case that you could put him above Ilya if you wanted to because of these title defenses and how he's looked in all these fights. I wouldn't be one of those people. But if you want to put him anywhere between two and five pound for pound, I think it's perfectly fair. That's how good he has been. And second, I put him in all cop if we're going to get Pantosia in there early, if we need

to fill a spot, June, July. somewhere around there makes obviously total sense for that. Looks like we're going to have two paper views in June if we are to believe the reports because we'll have International Fight Week at the end of the month and then they're talking maybe Newark early June. So could be two cards.

You got to fill those things up pretty quickly. There's talks about Sean O'Malley fighting Marab again. There's the rumored Kayla Harrison challenging Julianna Pena fight. I mean, who the hell knows at this point? But as I said on the post-fight show, and I stand by this. Each day that passes that Kai Kar-France is not announced fighting for the belt is just a bad day for Kai-Kar-France.

It's just availability is your best friend. And if they were to book that at UFC 314, would have been okay. Fine. Available guy. This is about getting Pantosia out there, fighting close to where he trains in Miami, which would be a big deal.

But yeah, man, I feel like Kai Kar-France just continues to lose out here with all this. time that that goes by. So I think Marina will fight for the belt in Guadalajara. It'll be a very big deal and there you go. But you, but you do think that cop could get a shot before then, right? Like the timing will be tight. Yeah. But okay, okay. Because you can't have to happen in June. It's going to have to happen on one of those June cards. Yeah. Yeah, it has to. And I really, I really think they should do that fight because you're right. Again, health permitting, hopefully they make this happen. Otherwise, yeah, it's because it kind of feels like a pretty, a pretty neat schedule for

the flyweight title this year if they can get Pentosia in there in June. But if they can't, then yeah, it kind of sucks for cop, right? Because you're right. UFC 320, you almost have to headline with Moreno and Pentosia. But then again, I don't know what cop's going to do. He can't, he should, cop should not have to fight again either, right? So I don't know.

Yeah, and who knows? Like if Pan's fights cop and wins, he might just say, F it. I'm out of here. I might just go to 135 and and fight Marab. Like Marab and his team have talked about that fight a lot. You have to imagine Marab is probably, going to fight O'Malley in a rematch in his next fight, just because the UFC loves Sean O'Malley and all of that.

And I think Marab will win that fight again. Marab versus it, Pantosia is really, really interesting. So maybe that's just a new challenge for him because he's fought and beat pretty much everybody in this division already, including Mid Al Cop. So if he goes out there beats Cop again, like what else is there for him at 125?

Do you just wait for Timoroff to win a bunch of fights and get up there? because, I mean, I just don't know what else he can accomplish at 125 at this point. So, and Demetrius Johnson certainly isn't coming back to fight him. There's the Kyoji Horo Gucci factor. They are teammates, but I think for the right price, championship stakes, they would fight each other. But who knows? Maybe pants would just step aside and let his teammate get his opportunity. So, yeah, 125 is a mess right now, but in a not a terrible way.

Because there's a lot of interesting matchups, though. That is what is next for Brandon Moreno. Let's go to Manuel Torres, who just bodied poor Drew Dober, thanks to referee Mike Beltran, who just allowed poor Drew Dober to just get hit a million times with huge punches while he was not defending himself at all. I saw some people in the post fight show commenting, well, he was grabbing a single leg, he was trying to push forward. Yeah, man, because he's getting punched 15,000 times. He was unconscious. Of course, every time he got hit, he was just like leaning forward a little bit more. This is a horrific stoppage from Mike Beltran.

It was 12 punches too late. And it almost takes away from the biggest win of Manuel Torres' career. Doing it in Mexico, doing it against a veteran like Drew Dober, almost sort of steals the shine from him. But let's put the shine back upon him. Jed and I both sort of agreed on this. There's a lot of fun ways you can matchmake Manuel Torres right now. He is just action-packed. He is super fun.

I'm giving him Benoit Santini. I'm doing it. UFC 320, Guadalajara. We're just building, we're just building a pay-per-view card right now, A.K., we're just building up a pay-per-view. Manuel Torres, Ben-Wasantini, opens up the main card on pay-per-view in Guadalajara.

That fight absolutely slaps. Amazing fight. I can't pick it, I think because I picked BSD for someone recently, Hoofee, Rufei, Mauri. Marisio Rufi? I don't know. I think I wanted that.

fine again there's a lot of great options for bSD yes fighting in in uh in guadalajar would be perfect i do think he'll come back a bit sooner though but maybe again maybe bsd fights before then maybe he gets back in the wind column and then maybe he ends up fighting um manual torres because man um manual torres four and one ufc right now all of all four of his wins post fight bonuses incredible stuff uh just a very exciting guy yeah what a moment you talked about at the beginning mike like how ridiculous it is to say that the apex atmosphere is the same as going on the road. And I mean, again, this and some of the other fighters we're going to mention. They had such amazing moments.

And in front of a great crowd, so much emotion, you really cannot recapture that in a sterile environment. So I'm just going to go with more bonus hunting here. So not pushing him to the top 15. I know that's what he wants. He wants to be on the Guadalajara card. He wants a top 15 opponent. He could certainly get one because by beating Dober, he kind of takes that top 20-ish spot that I think Dober was still hang on to. but I went with Ludovitz Klein

Ludovic Klein. So just more excitement, more chance for someone getting punched out. Oh, your type, you look, is he booked? I'm checking. No. I don't think so. I don't think so.

Okay, he's not booked. He's not booked. I think we've mentioned him. I think you have booked him on this show. I feel like you have booked him against a lightweight who was won this year. I could be wrong. Or he comes up a lot in listener picks or something. Yeah, because lightweight's awesome.

He's on like a really good run. Very exciting. Nobody for these guys to fight for. now. So I think I saw a report that he's fighting Gamrot somewhere, but that was on social media. And I believe about 30% of what I see on social media, especially Twitter right now. So we'll see. I mean, there's no, there's no wrong way to book this man right now. Well, maybe don't throw him in there at Grant Dawson. Stay away from that idea. What do you think about? Could Cot Torres get Gamrod? Yeah, I think so. Again, only because of all the rumors. Like, I think Cameron himself keeps tweeting stuff. like, oh, I've got a big thing coming out, doesn't he? So I was like, oh, maybe he has a matchup already. So, and, you know, this was before UFC, Mexico. So I'm like, okay, so it can't be Manuel Torres.

Like, he must have another matchup. But like you said, a lot of people tweet stuff. I don't know if he means stuff is in the works for a fight soon. He doesn't have an opponent. Because that was a risen up pick. I was looking through the top 15. I was like, who can kind of shake out here? And I'm like, Yamrod would be really interesting.

Definitely a tough style matchup for Manuel Torres. But again, if he wants a top of dean guy, you can't pick chess. No, I just want strikers now. I just, you know, you're going to have to face some people who might target your weaknesses. So I thought about Gamrod, but I do think Gamrod probably is going to announce like a fight will be announced for him in the next like month or so. So I passed on that. But I would like to see that.

I'm curious to see who they're booking him with. Yeah. I don't know. A lot of these guys. It's going to be really tough for these guys to move up the ladder. Like Joel Alvarez, Dawson, Torres. I think Torres and Ruffie might have like the best chances because they like to go to those markets and they like to showcase those guys.

more than some of the other names on that list. But yeah, huge performance for Torres. Shame on you, Mike Beltran. And on we go to the 125 pound division. Edgar Chiraz. You want to talk about emotion pouring out. Goes in there. And shout out to Edgar Chyres for getting a first round submission,

which gave me the victory in our pickum contest. Because had Edgar Chiraz won in any other fashion, I wouldn't have won. I wouldn't have got that extra 10 points to put me over the top. I think it would have lost to you, my best friend. Yeah, in topology. I think I was tied with Casey, I think, or I don't remember who I was tied with. Yeah, we actually did really well with all of our picks for once. Oh, I forgot to celebrate the top of the show, Mike, that I picked a fight night main event

correctly this year for the first time. Yeah. Yeah. Brandon Moreno breaks his Mexico City curse. He's now one, two, and one in Mexico City. And I am now one and seven on UFC fight nights this year. So this, I almost jinxed it because I was like, I think this is the easiest. I think of all the fight nights that I've been this year. This feels like the easiest one to pick, but I think I thought that was some other matchups too. So yeah, great job, Mike. Yeah, Shirez was, I picked Shirez

first round, knockout. And I was, oh, is that, it was so close. Not, not, knockout wasn't close, but I'm saying I was, like, we were that close. But you deserve it. Well deserved. Great night of picks for all. And, yeah, you just, you just edged out.

You're up with your Shirez subpick. Well done. I went super lazy with this. I'm just not going to lie to you. I just had him fighting Kevin Borjas, who had a great win in his own right, pulling up the big upset. So hopefully you have something more interesting to share with our listeners because I just sure don't. I don't know if it's more interesting.

I mean, it's just I love it's Alessandro Costa. I think Alessandro Costa is a good matchup for him. Maybe people might rank Costa a bit higher. I don't know. Again, Flew is not that deep, so I have them very only a few spots apart. And yeah, so I want to see Costa come back and get a tough opponent. And I think Shires is, I don't know what we have with him, but he had definitely a memorable moment getting that win

and just crying his eyes out like a real man in that arena. So yeah, great, great night for Edgar Sharis. He did not get a bonus, right? Yeah, he got a bonus. He did get a bonus. Okay, there had four performance bonuses, right? Two of them went to contender series signings and then, right, Manuel Torres and Shires.

Man, good night for Edgar. Yeah, all finishes got bonuses except for poor Jamal Embers, who I guess is a little too old to get a bonus. Didn't get a bonus and also like didn't get I still is not worth deliberating that much over but like it's so weird to me that that was announced a TKO like that was a knockout. That's a not that was a KOKA. He battered him into unconsciousness like he I mean again the referee should have stepped in earlier it should have been a TKO but he got those extra two hammer piss in and left Miranda limb.

So anyway no bonus no knockout knockout for Jammer's. Hey, at least he still got his. his win bonus and he's still in the UFC so good for you Jamal yeah and I gotta tell you just briefly going through the listener picks some people given some big steps up

for one Jamal Emmer so more on that to come let's go to the bantam weight division that's where we'll stand for the next couple of bouts Raul Roses Jr., Chihuahuee's all around for the 20 year old Mexico is on fire

fights the wily veteran in Vince Morales, Jedmishu, and all the climbers around the world who put their faith in Raul Roses Jr. had to sweat it out a little bit. A lot of people I saw online scored that fight for Vince Morales. I thought Roses won 29, 28. A little bit of a hairy one, no doubt about it. Saw a lot of people kind of dumping on Raul Roses Jr. I think that's really dumb and really silly because the kid's 20 years old. He's still trying to figure out who he is. He's a decade away from his athletic prime. So to win all these fights as a 20-year-old is absolutely ridiculous.

So I will let you go first on this AK because weekly listeners of the program know exactly where I'm going here because I already laid this out in this exact way a couple of weeks ago. So this is an interesting one, AK. The listeners are all over the place with this one. Raul Roes Jr. versus who next after this victory. Yeah, and I don't blame the listeners, man. He is tough to match me for.

He is really tough to match me for. not just again who's he going to fight next but again yeah the evaluation of how good is he first off the climb stuff with jed was just hilarious i mean anyone who lives in no that's part was like you know rosa seemed like a pretty safe pick and then he chose to do a double step he also picked uh rafa garcia on the prelims and people who saw that fight i mean it was not like a i guess in the end it wasn't that close in the cards but if you were watching the raffa garsia vince bachel fight you were like is raffa garsia losing this fight like like I think, to maybe like one and a half rounds, you're like, he might be losing at this.

He certainly wasn't dominating. And if you were Jed, you were sweating your ass off. And then, yeah, Raul Roses, that choke, boy, that choke in the third round looked. I didn't think he was going to tap out, but it looked bad. I mean, the camera angle was perfect. It looked like another fighter might have tapped out to that. So, yeah, good for him. Perfect matchmaking, by the way.

Vince is a season, season veteran, exactly the kind of test Raul Roses needs. and anyone who's disappointed that rule didn't like finish him or dominate him is like keep in mind like 20 year olds don't normally fight someone like Vince Morales who was that much experience I don't care that his UFC record is what I think three and seven now or something if you have if you don't watch Vince Morales fight you just look at his record you would think oh this guy's like a job or something but if you watch his fights he's competitive he's he's missing that extra gear right that's going to make him you know that's made him you know an actual like top 30 guy or something in the UFC but

he always gives people a tough fight. So this is perfect matchmaking. This is how you build someone up. I don't care that people want to see roses just run through people. No, he's 20. He's 20, and he's fighting people that he probably wouldn't know. But most 20-year-olds would not be fighting at this stage of their careers. Mike, I'm just going kind of dirt-boarding with this one.

I wish I was like you. I wish I'd set the stage before. Muin Gaffarov. Mouin Gaffarov. We just saw Gaffrov kind of defuse another prospect recently. if Raul stays on the feet with him, he might get killed or not, or we see improved stand-up from Raul. But again, Mouin's last fight was against a wrestler who for some reason chose not to wrestle. I don't think Roe-Wil would make the same mistake.

But again, this is another veteran guy who, you know, we're going to test where we'll is. But I don't want to push Roses Jr. up too quickly. So kind of staying in the same rankings range. And if he beats this guy, again, it's a day-to-day conversation. where you book him. But yeah, what was the, what was the,

what was the, um, homework you did for this again, Mike? Uh, two weeks ago, this gentleman got a submission went over Cody Gibson

at the World's famous apex. His name is Demand Blackshar. Um, and that's who Rall Roush Jr. is going to fight next. I like that. That's what I said.

So after Rall Roush Jr. beats Vince Morales, he will fight Demand Blackshar next. Nice little step up, like not a huge step up. I know Raul Rosh Jr. wants a ranked opponent. I think he is absolutely insane for putting that out

into the universe. No, no. You cannot do that. Who would that be? Let's go to the UFC's rankings. When he says, you know, we have our own rankings, of course. I'm fighting global rankings.

Let's look at the UFC's rankings. Let's go. So just 15, 14, 13 is Montel Jackson way too early. I do. I would favor Montel Jackson. I bet the odds would be close, though. Yeah, maybe. I think the casual better.

I will unload the clip on Montel Jackson. Um, 14. Amon's a hobby. I actually think that'd be interesting. I mean, Amon's a little busy. He is, he is.

He's fighting at 215, right? Yeah, he's fighting freaking Joseo Alto. God. I had literally hit for God. Yeah. We were so positive towards the bachelor's and then we mentioned Joseo's name.

Marcus McGee is an interesting one, too. That's number 13. I still think it's too early. But I don't. I wouldn't hate that if it happened. I just think, again, we're maybe pushing those. And then after that, no way. 12, 12, Kyla Phillips, 11, Aldo, 10.

I would do. Phillips would be interesting. I think, I think Phillips would be interesting. Because he can out grapple Kyler, man. He can't, but the experience gap. Experience gap. He's not that much, though. Well, no, if you look at the actual amount of fights, I think, I think, like,

Kyler, because he's had a lot of inactivity, right? He actually doesn't have a lot of just fights from a number's perspective, right? He only has 15. 15 pro bouts. But I don't know. Maybe I'm just looking at the age. Maybe I'm just looking. He probably started obviously a bit earlier.

I guess if you're just looking at the amount of fights, it makes sense. But I still think Kyler. I don't know. I would favor. I would favor. I would either be favored or close to a pick-up against any of these guys. So maybe he's not crazy. Maybe he's not crazy and turning into top of any guy.

I just don't like it. I just don't like it right now. He's a little crazy. He's a little crazy. I wouldn't throw him in there with Jonathan Martinez. I wouldn't throw him in there like a Chris Gutierrez. No. I wouldn't throw in those who are not ranked, by the way.

Not ranked. All the guys who names are not ranked though. Yeah. That's funny. So he could theoretically get one of those guys and not be fighting a ranked opponent. Yes. Or maybe I would also keep him away from this next name we're going to talk about. Okay.

Do not give him David Martinez. No. Don't do that. This would be a really bad day at the office for a Raul Roses Jr. here. David Martinez, hardcore fans, those have been who watched the sport outside of the UFC, knew who David was. One of those guys where we saw his name pop up on the contender series roster and we were like, why is he fighting on the contender series? This dude is a straight signing if there ever was one. But David goes in there, wins his fight, gets a contract,

and then just annihilates his opponent with relative ease. And I like this kid. He's got something. He's experienced. I love the Dr. David Martinez gimmick. I love everything about it. I think they have a potential star on their hands with this guy. And I am ready, AK, to just give him, give him a big name, give him a former champ. A lot of people think Raul Roes Jr. deserves to win this actual lottery. But it is not.

It'll be Dr. David Martinez versus Cody no love Garbrand. Next. You could do it in Guadalajara. I don't care. You can do it anywhere. It does not matter. That is a big fight, and David Martinez will more than likely get a massive victory and move his way closer to the top 15.

I think they really do have something with him. Let's just give him Cody and go from there. Mike, you told me on Fight Night that you'd be doing this. You'd be pulling the Cody card. And not a bad pick at all. Not a bad pick at all. Again, Cody Garbrandt is a, I feel like, is a fighter that the UFC needs to employ strategically at this point.

There's, you know, there's certainly fun fights you could go them in there with veterans. But if you're not going to do that, yes, maybe using him to build up the next generation of band and weights is not the worst idea. I'm sure there's people who, I think like me, my first reaction was like, oh, he's going to get killed. But I'm like, he has to fight someone at some point. We cannot, unless Cody Garbrandt retires, we cannot protect him from some of these

killers at 135. And it's a division full of killers. So you could do a lot worse than giving a name for David Martinez. Hey, maybe Cody wins. maybe he dolls back the clock and wins. I don't know. But that's what makes it intriguing, right? I went way more conservative as I do with anyone making their used to debut,

anyone who's like, you know, less than 15 pro bouts. I'm always going to just pull back a little bit. So I just want another, I want another chance from the Chavez striking. I'm going with Gaston Balaños, Gaston Balaños. This is assuming a quick turnaround. This is assuming we can get Dave Martinez back in there within the next three months. If it's a longer wait, I would definitely would rather see him fight someone with a name. but if we're just trying to get him reps,

trying to get him familiar with the, you know, the UFC audience. Yeah, just keep throwing on bodies in there, fights at bat ball and he'll probably be minus 400 favorite against something like that. So yeah, let's do that. It's okay. We need to build these guys up. He looked great. Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap.

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How do you feel about having been involved in bringing sexual trauma at other people? I don't even know how to answer that question. Allison after Nexium from CBC's Uncover is available now on Spotify. I already match made for Kevin Borhaus, AK. Did you match week for Kevin Borhaus? I did. I kind of not struggled. First off, Aviva Peru.

Love my Peruvians. I picked this upset. Let me say, I think I was the only one on staff to pick Borjas. I just didn't like what I saw from Ronaldo Rodriguez in some of his previous fights. Like, he always gets rocked early. And he did again. He did again in this fight. Like, he just cannot.

He's tough as hell. But he just relies on that so much. He relies on his chin so much. And I don't know how long that's going to last for him. exciting guy, very popular guy, but I was like, yo, Kevin Borjas is going to touch his ass up. And sure enough, sure enough, one on the card. So good for Kevin.

Pretty sizable underdog, I think he was. And he pulled it out. So I struggled a little bit because it's not like he's a world beater. I don't know where he is as a prospect. I think he's a guy that at the years he keeps around, get a ton of exciting stand-up battles out of him. So I'm going with Felipe Bunez. only because I was looking at like,

okay, Borjas is with the Pitbull Martial Arts Center while Philippi Bunes trains with the Pitbull Brothers. So this Pitbull Gym versus Pitbull Gym Mike, that's the gimmick I'm going away for this matchup.

Also, I just think stylistically it would be good. But yeah, Pitbull Martial Arts Center versus Pitbull Brothers. Not the same thing. I had to be sure. I'm like, they're not even in the same country. So just as there are many pit bull fighters, yes, there are apparently many teams

that go by the Bid bull moniker. Boros is like, the way I saw people talking about Borhaus was kind of hilarious. They're just like, this guy's a bum. He's just going to be there. He lost to Josh Van and Alessandro Costa. Like,

such are like very excusable losses. Josh Van is probably going to fight for a belt. Alessandra Costa is very exciting. And how about this run for Kevin Borhaus? Three fights in the UFC all in front of like big ass crowds. What a run. Get to. fight at UFC, he got to fight at MSG in his UFC debut, that he fought at UFC 301 in Brazil,

and then he gets the Mexico fight in the biggest gate in Mexico at that arena's history. So how about that? Just a kid, just a kid from Lima with a dream. That's what, that's what it's all about. That's what it's all about. Speaking of dreams, let's go to the wild card round and matchmake for one fighter we have not match made for yet, AK, who is your UFC Mexico wildcard? fighter. You know, you would think, sorry, I wrote down who I was matching up with, but not who the person was.

Okay. You would think I would go with a woman who proudly reps Canada, Lupi Godinez, who looked great, great, very fun fight with Jula Palastri. We could have gone Mr. Jamal Emmer's again, who just kind of got overlooked. We could have gone with top prospect of Teba Gautier, who did exactly what he was supposed to do and just trashed Jose Medina. I mean, that was, that was a mismatch on paper. That was a mismatch. That was a mismatch. match on the scale. That was a mismatch during the faceoff. Anyway, so great, all good options. I can't wait to look at the listener picks, have not vetted them. I'm very curious where they have an expert Gautier, Gaudinez, and some of the others. But I'm going with Melchie Costa, Melchiesel Costa, because I've overlooked this guy a lot.

Guy has talked to him a few times. He's got a great story. But I thought that I'm not going to part of me thought that's all he was, was like a great story. But he's kind of, he's producing results. I'm not saying he's beating top tier competition in the U.S.E. But he's got some good wins now. He's got Andre Feely on there. He's got, he just beat, what would he be? Christian Rodriguez.

Christian Rodriguez is a prospect killer. Not that Costa's a prospect, which is probably why Christian Rodriguez lost. Costa is now 4 and 0. 4 and O in the UFC at 145 pounds. He has a loss that was in a lightweight bout. Something's clicking here. Something's clicking here.

Or there might be, but we should find out. Give me Costa and another guy who was, on a streak recently before losing it before taking his first years he lost. Costa and William Gomi. Costa and William Gomi. I still have Gomi ranked higher than him. So if I'm trying to move Costa up a little bit or give him the chance to move up, so I'm ready. I'm going to go with that. Okay. You know me. You know where I was going with Mr. looks terrific off the bus, way better than Jose Medina, Mr. Gautier. What do you got, Mike? What do you got? look here's the thing there is a gentleman who is employed on this roster in this division for a reason

and you're going to see that six days from now at ufc Vegas 105 because he is taking on the one and only if you smell what torres finney is cooking and he's going to get suplexed through the damn mat at the ufc apex and then he gets to fight go t a after that uh after robert valentine loses to Torres Finney on Saturday at the apex. He's going to go fight Gautier next. But even if Robert Valentin goes out there and pulls up the victory, he will be rewarded with the Gautier fight either way. So yes, he's fighting Robert Valentin no matter what happens on Saturday.

You have relegated Robert Valentin to Barry Horowitz duty? This is what you think of. this is this is this is this is why we're here okay this is this is why we're here if if i'm the ufc i'm having go to your fight jose medina for the next 10 fights again right it back three years just every every three months give jose medina another chance in beating this guy because you have like this is how you have to book him just he's super young he's green as grass slow just just like just let him just annihilate people for a little bit, let him boost some confidence. And then after a couple of years of doing that, of just obliterating people, then we could start

throwing him a test or two, someone who's good at singular takedowns. And then we could start throwing him in there with guys who could chain wrestle and just shoot all the time. And if they don't get the first one, they'll get him on the second or third. Then we can start getting there. But for right now, let's just have fun with this guy. throw them in there and just let him obliterate people. That's

what you do with the gentleman like this. Middleweight Francis, as people have been calling him. Sure. So, yeah, just let this guy cook. He's 22? Yeah. That's crazy. I think it was the great Caposa who's tweeted. I didn't even know they made middleweight prospects under 25.

This is true. It does feel like when we get new middleweight. That should be a heavyweight AK 22. Jesus. It would be a baby. Like, again, those don't exist. No one becomes a UFC heavyweight. Like if you're 22 and you're athletic, you're still pursuing some other sport. It's not until you're like 26, 27. You've had a knee surgery or something.

They're like, okay, maybe I'll try MMA. And then that's how MAA heavyweights are born. Again, this would be like a top. This would be like if who's the guy who just won the incidental blades show, Wyatt Hendrix, Wyatt Hendrickson, what's the guy's name? Yeah. It'd be like if he, and I don't know how old he is, but it'd be like if he decided, yeah, I'm going right into MMA right now.

It's like, no, it doesn't happen. He has other dreams he's going to pursue. and then maybe when he's 28, 29, needs some money. He's going to try to become a heavyweight fighter. But yeah, 22-year-old at Tebow-O-T-A, intriguing guy to watch. I wonder how often he can get in there this year because, like I said, Mike, with the right matchmaking,

we're talking about a breakthrough fighter of the year candidate. Again, this is very early, very early. One fight, one matchup, which he was clearly, you know, favored to win. But how can you not be intrigued? Yeah, I think of all the fighters in the, car where we can't wait to see this guy fight again i feel like gottier was was the guy more than probably anybody else so what a performance just did exactly what he needed to do

shout out to jose medina and his chin for lasting as long as he did he was trying to have fun in there oh he's bringing it he's like he's like he's like yeah smiling laughing like come on i didn't even feel that he got neat in the face and then it was over uh all right let's go to the peeps uh we do have sort of a we have an explanation. It's not a great one from our big story from last week's show.

We will get there in a matter of seconds, but let's go to the peeps. First off, let's say hello to Joe Kotke first-timer, AK, AK on music.

Welcome to the party pal. I'm sorry, typing something. I didn't want people to deal with that. Welcome to the party pal, yeah. Joe Kotke, listen, he is who he is

and he's not here. to mince words, not here to hide who he is and where he's from. Hey man, first time, I'm not no submissions. Milwaukee guy here, so I have to match me from my man, Crodd, despite the loss. Crod versus Morgan Chariere. I like it. Melchaisal Costa versus Sidie Guesteph, Raul Roos Jr. versus Cody Garbrand. Emers versus touchy-feely.

Rinaldo Rodriguez versus the return of Jeff Molina? All right. Lazy boy versus Jeff Molina. I almost had Jeff Molina for, I think, like, Borjas. I definitely was doing the math. But I'm like, November is a bit of a lot. He's eligible, I think, in November to compete again. I'm like, that's a bit of a long wait for some of these guys.

Like, these guys need to just keep getting back in. Borhaus versus Clayton Carpenter, David Martinez versus Ericci Lang. Gautier versus Cody Brundage, probably the most popular pick, if I'm being honest. Manuel Torres versus Dracar Close. Edgar Chires versus Charles Johnson. Oh, man, that's a fun one. two very, very big, tall fly weights getting after it. So he was with you with Cody, Cody and Raoul.

No, he was with Cody and Raoul, where I was with David Martinez and Cody. David Martin. Oh, I'm sorry, he's with you. Wait, he's, oh, but he said Raoul and Cody. He said Raul and Cody. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Do you like that idea?

I don't. I'm not against it just for the, like, the reasons that, yeah, it would be a name to give him and people would like, oh, if he won, he'd be like, oh, my gosh, he'd be Cody Garbrand. He'd be former UFC champion Cody Garbrand. But I just don't, again, I don't feel the need to do that right now. Like, I feel like we can take so much time building this guy, even though I know he has stated many times.

His goal is to become the UF's youngest, you know, champion in UF's history. I think he still has two years to do that. So like, let's just, I don't know. I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready to give this young man to push the push yet. Because I just, I don't know, I see him so far away from beating the likes of Marab or Sean O'Malley or, many people like the O'Malley matchup because of the grappling, I understand. But I just see him so far from the top 10 top of the team.

I don't know. Dan Trenadu. Hey, Mike, thanks for reading my picks last week. Here's what I got this week. I don't think this is correct. He said Pulashtry versus Amanda Hebas, but I assume he means Luby Godinez versus Amanda Heapas. I mean, well, Hebus is coming off the loss, right?

I mean, maybe. Does he have a pick for Lupi? Is there a pick for Lupi in there or just for Pallas. There is not a pick for Lupi. I'm assuming this is a typo of some kind or just a, you know, stayed up too late watching fights thing. By the way, the only fight for Julie Pallastry is

Carly Judice. Those two, I mean, that's just, that's just gold right there. Even at the apex, that fight friggin rules. Just two absolute psychopaths getting in there and chucking him at each other. Malkazio Costa versus Alex Casaris. I think Rollers has earned a big name.

Who did he pick? Oh, he picked Cody, I think. I think he picked Garbrandt. And his reasoning was, Roles earned a big name, who just showed he can be submitted in his last fight. Manuel Torres versus Nazareth Hacquist. And Gautier versus Cody Brundage.

It's a very popular one. Some going to sit around one. Cody could, like, really spoil people's plans. I don't think people are giving Cody Brunage enough credit. He's almost like, he's got like a Sam Hughes type quality, I feel. Where it's like, oh, you throw, oh, he's minus 800. He's going to kill. It's like, well, guys got a lot of experience, man.

Got a lot of experience, a lot of pep, can grapple. He can grapple. and that's that's a tough one i don't i understand the reasoning and a team would be a huge favorite going to that fight but i would not bet it and like i don't think that's the right way to go next maybe let me see one more fight with goatea then we can talk brundage yeah knuckles hey mike the mexico vibes are much better than the l vibes sure could not agree more brandon morano versus minel cop for the potential number one contender how about just chucking morano and cop in there it would have to happen soon right they They both deserve a shot, though.

Don't they both deserve a shot? I know this is the fight game. I know you cannot sit and wait. It's happened before. We've seen people sit and wait, but in general, the U.S. he doesn't like that.

I think these days it's hard to sit and wait with the, you know, however 40, 50 events they have a year. So I don't like it. I don't like it. I want to see the fight. I want to see Moreno and cop fight. Don't get me wrong.

But I'd love it for it for it to be fulfilled. What's going on with Brandon Royval? I mean, he's like sort of the Jared cannineer of this conversation at flyweight. Split, not over Moreno, right? Technically, you beat him recently. I mean, close fight, but he won.

They're one-on-one. Brandon versus Brandon three. Maybe you save pants for Guadalajara. You do Pantosia versus Cop, co-main event, and then you chuck Brandon versus Brandon three on that same card. Okay. That's a Jedmishu idea, but again, a lot of sitting out, a lot of unsureity there. Manuel Torres versus Carlos Diego Faheda.

I don't hate that. Edgar Shires versus Cody Durdon. Raul Rost Jr. versus Garrett Armfield. Okay, I could dig this matchmaking. Very good. I thought about that as well. It was definitely on my list.

Yep. And on a good day for Garrett Armfield, he could win that fight. Yeah. He's very solid. But this is where we are. With roll. I don't think there's any real walkover as a bantamate.

It's a very tough division. So every fight he gets is going to be risky. David Martinez versus Cody Gibson, Borhaus versus Charles Johnson, Gautier versus Ozzie Diaz. No. I'm sorry. No, you can't do that.

Too big. Too much of a step up. Ozzy lost. No, he won. He won his last fight. Oh, yeah, because who did he fight again? Who just, like, totally, like, threw it away. It was just like,

again, I think Ozzy was a pretty big underdog. Jordan Santos. Oh, gosh. Yeah. And credit to Ozzy, Ozzie took advantage of an extremely sloppy performance from Jordan Santos. Yeah, you're, you know, you're right. Yeah, maybe not yet.

Maybe not yet. Ozzy's not like a can. It's not like, you know. Oh, man, what is that dude's name? Oh, it's driving me crazy. He fought at 85 and at 205, and he just, he either got or he either got dude or got got in the first round of like every fight he was in. He's still with yours name. But people loved him.

Yeah. No, I know. No, he's not anymore. Shit. He's got to drive me crazy. But when I remember his name, bring him back. Bring him back. Because that's the kind of fight we need.

The pleasure man? Not the pleasure man. GFL. You want to stunts this man's growth? GFL star, the pleasure man, Anton Tricoli? It's driving me crazy. He's a very delightful, very kind, guy, man.

I don't know. How do I not know this? I wish I should know. I should be able to read your signs by best friend. I just. Hold on, hold on. Now it's going to drive me crazy. I think Waki Buckley fought him at some point.

Hold on. We're going to find it. Okay. While you search for that, I will mute. about um Jordan right that's who I'm thinking of

Jordan right yes Jordan right yes yes Jordan right where is he gone but I mean has he fought recently is he retired I don't think so but Jordan right is like the perfect

kind of opponent that would be amazing uh for Gautier I looked at topology Fury FC 88 he won his last fight against Zach Barago Yeah.

But yeah, this is a man who lost five of his last six to beat Jamie Pickett, then got knocked up by Bruno Silva, knocked up by or submitted by Mark Andre Barrio, finished by Dusko Todorovich, even lost to Zach Pauga, who fought at a dirty boxing one eight nights ago. So maybe you give Jordan Wright a call, maybe he gets back in the UFC.

Jordan Wright, what a poll. What a poll. I knew. I was driving me crazy. Harry, Maderas versus Rongju, Emers versus Bogdan Grad, Raffa versus Tom Nolan, Lupi versus

Lucindo, Melki versus Muhammad Naimov, Atiba versus Nick Klein. Perfect. Yeah, same way. The Nick Klein's of the world. Warhouse versus, yeah, Roja, Lucas Rocha, Martinez versus Kaelan

Lockren. Martinez versus Keelan Locker. Let me, hold on. I don't love that. Like, Kailen's kind of a dog, but he could make David Martinez, like, not all that fun. I don't mind it. I don't mind it.

Again, just from a rankings perspective, I do have Keelan higher just because he's fought more in the UFC. I don't hate it. Okay. He's with you. Harry's with you, AK, Roses versus Moeen Gafferoff. Okay. Chiraz versus Kavanaugh, Torres versus Estebanovich?

Oh, my God. That's a terrific fight. Damn. Jeez. And then Harry gets a little bit of doo-do. I'm sorry. It was a question mark, so maybe it's on a full pick. He asked Marino versus Royval two.

It would be three. It would be three. That's where the doo-do comes in. Do-do-do. Left lane. Moreno versus Kioji, who by the way, hours ago, it was official Kioji-Horoguchi at the rising card vacated his title and said, I'm outy, going back to the UFC.

So Kioji back to the UFC. And left lane says, let's just do Kioji versus Brandon Moreno because I really don't know what to do with Moreno. And that's just a cool fight. Yeah, I don't know why I hadn't thought of that because that actually makes a ton of sense. Again, it could happen before, again, it really, I don't know when Pantos is defending his title again.

But yeah, if the UFC is squarely about giving, about potentially booking Moreno, Penthoja, 4, which I imagine they are, again, because the second fight was great. It was really close. I feel like if they hadn't had the history before, there would have been a rematch sooner. But again, because they fought three times, they were not going to do it. So if you really want to make Moreno work for it, you go with Horaguchi. And I don't even mind if Moreno beats him. I know those people out there who'd be like, well, why not to give Horaguchi an immediate title shot?

But there's complications of that because, of course, Or Gucci and Pantoja are friends, training partners. They've credited each other multiple times and sort of like elevating each other's games to help them get to where they've been. I do think, I think we all agree. I think that they would fight for a title. You know, the money's right, the opportunity's right. But maybe you make Kioji fight for that opportunity and give them a little more time to think about it. And again, and if he loses, then you remove that problem of having to negotiate that at all. And you can get that Marino, Pentosia third runback.

So I, that's actually, I don't know why I didn't think of that. I don't know why I didn't think of that. It would, I imagine, though, the problem is it would have to happen before September unless you're going to make Kyoji wait all that time, which is, you could, I guess. So, but I like the match up. Yeah, it's, because I guess like when, when it was first reported that Kioji was on his way back, Iser J-Bahn or Izerjibon, what's the name of that country? Azerbaijan, Azerbaijan, yes, that Horguchi is like,

rumored to be a part of that card. I don't think Moreno's going there. A couple of months after winning in Mexico. I think he's going to sit and wait for that opportunity. So perhaps if that's just kind of how things work out. Erseig versus Almabayev, Shires versus Borjas,

Roses versus Cody Gibson. Seriously think any notable step up goes badly for Raul right now. I don't disagree. Martinez versus Adrian Yanez in Mexico for 320. That's fun. Gautier versus the Dumas. Mikhail Olexeychuk winner

after UFC 314. I thought about Mikhail Oaxeichek, but even it's just so, it's just such a experience gap there. Maybe Dumas, but I don't know, even then, I just, there's just no need to rush Gautier right now. Melkeye versus Melsic,

tremendous name gimmick, I suggested by myself after the Seattle card. Crod versus Yadier del Valle off of DWCS. He's literally the only signed 145 or outside of the rankings who's undefeated outside of Hyder Emil

which definitely won't happen. The C-Rod prospect killer gimmick can never end. We just want to test it. That's quite the explanation. He beats a prospect. He goes up and fights a more veteran guy. Maybe wins or loses comes back, fights a frost. Yeah, it's a great gaming time. By the way, weirdly, I feel like we've had all the

Cody's mentioned. We've had Cody Gibson mentioned Cody Durden and Cody Garvin. No Cody statement, unfortunately. I think he's no longer with the O.C. But, I know. Demone Blackshar's out. there somewhere just look at his chops the Cody kill the Cody killers just me he's coming for one of these guys I mean he's already got Gibson yes uh Palashri versus judis dope fight as you said Garcia versus Ispil Bonfame embers versus Danny Silva maderas versus Slava Claus John Maderas versus

Taco Padilla emmers versus doho Choi man that seems like quite a step up for Jamers after being out for over a year and then beating maybe the five lowest ranked fighters on the divisional roster. I guess the thing with Jamal is he's older. He has a lot of pro experience. I think he'll just like, it's now or never. It's now or never. Just like, let's get him in it.

Because he's not getting any younger. So if he's going to have a chance, any of these matchups, it has to be now. But yes, I, it is, if we're just talking pure ranking standpoint, he's not like in the top 40 right now. I don't think. No. No. I'm a 50. I bumped him up to 52.

Wow. After this win. So. Yeah, it's just been too up and down for me in a division like this. Garcia versus Rievovich, Costa versus Nathaniel Wood, Gautier versus the Dumas Olegzechuk loser, Martinez versus Carlos Vera, Rosas versus Kyeongho Kang. I mean, this is what we're talking about right here. This is it. Manuel Torres versus the winner of Jim Miller versus Chase Hooper at UFC 314.

Wow. I like that. Like, you know, a year ago, I would have said Manuel Torres is, or 18 months ago, maybe he's too much for Chase Hooper. But sorry, I leaned away from the mic there. But if Chase Hoover beats Jim Miller, I think we had to accept Chase Hooper is a man now. And that's a fight he could win. Like, I wouldn't, I think Manuel Torres would certainly be favored. Chase Hooper could win that fight, though.

He definitely could win that fight. I think, you know what? I think if Chase goes out, if Chase goes out there and does to Jim Miller what he's done to, like, his last couple of opponents, I kind of think you have to make a fight like that. just to see what Chase has at this point. Like, I'll just throw them in the wolves and see. Steve Urseg versus Tim Elliott and Brandon versus Brandon three. Come on, UFC. I love Ersek Elliott because Ersek is kind of the new Tim Elliott.

He's kind of someone who got a title shot, maybe faster than feel expected. Tim Elliott got off a reality show, obviously, after a previous run with UFC. But yeah, he's kind of in that stage where like always tough, never going to get blown out in a fight. Maybe the Kai Kar-Fran's fight you called out a blowup. But other than that, you know, again, and Tim Elliott also has, I'm sure some loss in there where he didn't look great. But you keep this guy around. He's going to test veterans. He's going to test up-and-comers.

So I hope Ur-Seg can have a similar career to Tim Elliott as far as, like, you know, being a long, tenured fighter for the UFC. Certainly. Chris, good bounce back event for the UFC. I agree. Chris, like Steve Erseg versus Jeff Molina. That's fine. That's fine. Yeah, I don't mind it.

I'd like to see Erzik take a bit of time off. And then Chris is just choosing. a lot of violence here. Manuel Torres versus Bobby Green or King Green. Drew Dober versus Micta Beck-Debec Oralby. Shirez versus Temeroff. Roses versus Ricky Simone. This is interesting.

It is. I don't love it. I think it's too big of a step up. But Roses can just run through the whole damn family because Vince Morales and Ricky Simone are cousins. That's right. So we could go from one cousin to the next. So there's a story there.

Interesting. Yeah, I was sorry. I was going to say, and Ricky, let's not forget up until he bounced back with that win recently. We were all kind of like, is Ricky kind of done, you know, as a fighter? He's not an old guy, but just his results,

his most recent loss before, again, he came back with a win. His most recent loss, he looked so just deflated. And we were like, Ricky is not an old guy, but he's been in this game for quite some time. He's fought very, very, very, competition for quite some time and if you had matched raoul with him um again after his most recent loss roo would have been pretty heavily favored i think maybe not maybe not heavily relatively

speaking he would have been like a minus 250 i think raoul just because of how poor rickie's results had been but he looked good in his in that bounce back wins so i'm not sure i'm not sure i feel about it but it's a matchup i can certainly see being made it's not it's not crazy it's not a crazy match up. That is as high as I would go with Rowell. Okay. And even then, I'd be like, I'd be, I'd be nervous. I would place a bet on Ricky Simone right now, if that fire were booked.

Because he'd be like, they would, he'd be like a plus 185. True, true. Oh, right now. So the, the betting odds would just be way off, in my opinion. David Martinez versus Vince Morales, Costa versus Hyder Amil, Godineas versus Tisha Torres. Torres is booked, I believe. So I don't know if that can happen. I think she is, yeah.

And she's actually Tisha Pennington now, just for future reference. Rapha Garcia versus Matush Rebekchi, Emers versus Steve Garcia? Holy smokes. Steve Garcia was about to fight Edson Barbosa. Yeah, and he's on a big win streak, too. Yeah, he's like the 19th ranked featherweight in the world right now. Man, that's quite a bit of a step up. Maderos versus Vince Pichel.

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Can you remind people what happened with Robbie last week? So Robbie Ryan last week we were talking about let me just pull this up for let me just get the reference everything we need here, all the there's Robbie

do do do it was a lightweight matchup. He was a lightweight matchmaking. Yes. And it raised erase the eyebrows. Oh, yes, there it is. After UFC London, made some good picks,

and then suggested that Chris Duncan fight the winner of Mark Jacasey versus Gadsie Rabadanov. And I looked at this, and I was, I don't think I've been more confused on this show. Even, like, throwing a bunch of contender series guys that got contracts that I've never heard of before. Even then, I didn't scratch my head as hard

as I did with this one. And I'm like, how could this fight happen? Because Jacasi and Rabadanov are fighting in the PFL tournament coming up in the lightweight division. And we were wondering why. By the way, we actually got, I actually didn't even see this actual explanation.

But the big reason was he showed a photo of the Tapology lightweight rankings. And Chris Duncan and Jacasi and Rabadanoff were sort of all around. here's the explanation. Okay, firstly, I accept the doo-doo. Explanation, I looked at the topology rankings in Sajikaze in a similar spot in the rankings, a more experienced guy who is capable, but not a huge jump in competition for Chris Duncan,

but it's a small step up, but Jacaysi is booked. I honestly didn't know that Mark Chacayze was still longer with the UFC. I assumed it was just one of the now regular fight night cards with people I don't know, admonish me. I appreciate him. Yeah. at least accepting that that might be the most questionable pick in the history of the show. I just had this hilarious image of him accepting the doo-do.

Just like him on down on one knee, head tilted down, his hands out in, you know, remorse. And you take you with a paper bag, a small paper bag filled a doo-doo planted into his hand and like, you know, just a polite knot. And then on your way, good sir, on your way, good sir. All is forgiven. Enjoy it. WWE style. I just pull a rope and it just all falls from the same. Oh, no.

That's not what I was thinking. It was disgusting. That's it. That's not that. But, uh, yes. Click. Just do that one extra click. Do that one extra click.

Because that's what would have saved Robbie Ryan's in trouble. Just like, oh, I wonder what event this fight is on. And then he would have seen, oh, it's in the BFL. It's not even the UFC. But a funny, a learning moment for us all. Yeah, we love the rock. Uh, manuel Torres versus Tiago Moises. I actually really like that idea.

Yes. I don't know why I didn't. Yeah, there's just so many good options for Manuel Torres right now. Another Martinez, Kalin-Lockerin suggestion, wildcard Lupi Godinez versus Denisi Gomez. Interesting. How about this AK? Robbie's suggesting,

I kind of like it too. Raul Roses Jr. versus Christian Rodriguez, too. Although Rodriguez is now at featherweight. Yeah. Can we catch weight this? Like, come on. He's Ronald Roses Jr.

for God's sake. Can we do it at one for? They hate doing catch weights in the UFC. I can't imagine that this matchup has enough juice for them to say, well, wait, so many unanswered questions. I actually like it. I think Christian Rodriguez beats him again, though. You do? I don't know.

I'm terrible picking rematches, though. I thought Hibas was going to beat McKenzie Dern again. I thought, what was the other rematch? I thought Roman was going to beat Martin. I'm sorry, I thought Marmotori's meet Roman again, and those are both way off. So, yeah. Christian Rodriguez is still really good. Like, I just think Christian Rodriguez is a good.

I mean, Raoul's not undefeated anymore, so it's like a different fight. It is a different fight. Role is certainly a better fighter than he was on that night. Not for me. Not for me, my best friend. Fair enough. I appreciate the extra effort there. All right, A.K., you're up.

All right, let's find some of these real quick. Casey Carpenter, what's up? A long-time friend of the show. He says he had it 40, 47 Marino, sure, five close rounds. Moreno versus Raw Dog 3. Yes, Vinnie Siggs versus Albazzi. Torres versus Ludovic Klein

Yes, I agree Chiris versus Carpenter Rarosa versus sexy Mexican which one's sexy Mexie again? That's John Castaneda John Castaneda I still think that's two veteran But I had eyed that for sure

Lupi Godinez versus Angela Hill That's a two That's a two Robbie Casey Sorry Robbie That's a two That's a two come on now way that fight is definitely happened.

Costa versus Goldme? Oh, we're back at it. Brandage Gote, another one. Borjas Aguilar and Steve, and Rafael Garcia and Elvis Brenner. Shout out to Dr. Jed. Okay. Jay Donaggy.

Okay, I don't need to reread all of these. Again, we've had some of these read. Chares Reis Saruya. Fun grappling that, sure. I thought of this. Roses and Brady Heastand. Sure. Sure.

It makes a lot of sense. sense, but I do feel like they want to go more veteran. It's hard to find that sweet spot. And again, some of the, some other matches we've already mentioned, don't need to go for all these. Tristan, Tristan, Tristan, Gordet, Jamal-Emor's, Isaac Dolgarian. Oh. I like that matchup.

That's good. Yeah, because I want to see what we have with Isaac. Isaac, like, I really think could be a player in that weight class. And Emmer's perfect veteran test, perfect veteran test. David Martinez, Bernardo, so pie. Yeah. Yeah, I think they have something with Bernardo, so I don't know if they want to put these two prospects against each other. But, again, they don't like to protect people either.

So certainly, certainly a possible matchup. Going to Instagram, I was going to Instagram, just a couple of here. Chris Carey, Chris Carey, Magic Wand. I don't want the Sahudo fight. Let's go Moreno versus Horaguchi UFC 320. Oh, right, because we've talked a lot about previous episodes of Moreno and going up to 130. fighting um fighting uh so who know but i don't think that's going to happen anymore anyway yeah marina horaguchi ucc 20 right right and then we do we talked about this okay ursac versus kaya succour in perth yeah

where is kai right now where's kai securr uh Torres versus fersezyum sure yep this is one i'm surprised i don't like it but i'm surprised more people didn't mention it um rossus junior and peyton talbot mike give me the give me the give me me the odds give me the odds for uh roses and tellbett well since this is a recency bias sport rosa minus 250 oh i actually think it might be even i think might be a little higher maybe not that much yeah i think you're in the right range again i think people are really down on peyton after that which again he lost to a way more experienced fighter i don't think people should be that down on patent talbot um but i could see people being down on them and like you said the

recency bias. Roses has got that heat back. Four straight wins now. Four straight wins. I don't mind it. I'm surprised when people didn't mention it. I just don't like it right now because it feels like you're not building both guys. It feels like you're trying to build Roses there. I don't know. It could happen, but maybe down the road. Tino Alvarez. Markell Medeiros, Nicholas Motta, Jamal Emmerz, Fernando Padilla. This is a little bit closer.

David Martinez, Gaston Balanos. Thank you very much. Edgar Chires, Kevin Boras. There you go. like Manuel Torres Matt Favola in Guadalajara. I like it. I have Favola ranked, I think, ahead of, slightly ahead of Manuel Torres. So maybe that is the way to go. But again, it's a bit of a wait.

This is the only problem for picking this Guadalajara card for some of the fighters. That's a wait, man. That is six months, right? That's to be six, seven months. Six, seven months. Six months. It's a bit of a wait. I don't know, man.

He's been, I mean, it gets decent competition but frivolos been knocked out in his last two fights like pretty viciously so it's i think torres might have jumped up might be past that now i mean he beat drew dober and then got just obliterated by ben wasantini yeah and then got obliterated by ferez i am back in september so i have torres above frivolo right now like i know losing to b sd and zayem or excusable losses, but yeah, man, lightweight, it's, you can't lose it lightweight. You just, it's so deep and so loaded. So I, I would watch it, sure.

Finn Hamilton, all right, Finn Hamilton. Lupi, Heba, so what I'm sorry? Gotev versus Al-Hassan. I understand the thinking. Al-Assan is no longer in the UFC. There's no longer, maybe you could bring them back. If that were to happen, again, those experience gap is too much. experience gap is too much.

I just, I don't like it. But I understand the thinking. That's it. That's someone, someone's getting chaos. I get it. Rodriguez versus a scale.

Come on, guys. He's at 145 now. He's at 145. Leave the man alone. Let them live. Some, a lot of fights we've already had.

Dover hopefully takes a break. Beltran. No, he's talking, they're talking about lazy boy. Uh, what did I say? Oh, not Christian.

Not Christian. I'm so sorry. Yes, I'm sorry. Guys, you got to, I'm reading these really quickly. You got it. Yes, yes, run up.

because he just put Rodriguez. Rodriguez versus Sabatini Brito Loser and Rodriguez versus the scale. So guys, you can put first names, you know, if there's two guys with the same, same, last name on a card. Though I should have, I should have suss that up. Yes. Miss wait. Finger of shame.

Finger shame. Bad week for Ronald Rodriguez. Roses Jr. versus Montel Jackson, win-lose-dra versus Marco's stuff fights coming up. So I guess people want to see him, again, right on the edge of the top 15? I don't know, man. I think Montel takes them, but maybe I'm underestimating. This isn't 19 year old Raoul anymore, Mike.

This is 20-year-old Raoul. It's a totally different beast. I mean, if he needs to negotiate, I believe both fighters are managed by the same guy. So there you go. DGB, DGB MMA, Lupi versus Robertson Rodriguez winner. Yeah, she hasn't fought either of them, I don't think, right? I think we maybe have matched her up hypothetically. I guess she's fought so, she's fought so many times.

No, that'd be a nice step up. I mean, stuff. I kind of like that there. Costa versus Calvin Cater, Mike. McHeusel Costa, Calvin Cater. Don't hate it. Don't hate it. It would make sense.

Okay. Okay. I kind of like that. But Calvin Cater's got to fight at some Barbosa. So what are we doing here? Braden O'Neill. Moreno versus Copp. I think they're going to do Car France for the title shot.

Okay. Right. Okay. So we've discussed us of possible of this already. Manuel Tours versus Tom Nolan. I don't mind the matchup. I just think Manuel is quite a bit ahead of him. Yes, if we're talking about, frankly, as wise.

Yeah, it's too much. Goate versus Jordan Santos. Now I'm, now I'm listening. I actually like that more than the Ozzy Dia. I couldn't be listening harder right now. A lot of good, a lot of good matches here that I've already been said. Thank you, Braden. Four corner sports.

Always an adventure. Okay, I'm going to assume four corners that you nailed. Ersig versus Sero-Tyra. Yep, like it, dig it. Yeah. Manuel Torres Verbechki, dig it. What else we got here? Raoul Roses Jr., Cody Garbranch.

sure Dave Martinez Vince Morales I think someone else said this right yeah I hope they keep Vince Morales around I like again got loopie and Angela Hill this is a two this is a two do people not remember this first fight I mean I know I just had to kind of like look it up but if people not remember this Kalam Kalam by the way Kalam thank you for uh he originally sent me a Google Doc and I was like please just copy and face this into a DM and yeah I'm very lazy I'm very lazy we've been no we've we've done the Google Doc thing all right we've we've done the Google dog thing. We did no more. We banned the Google Doc thing. Oh yeah. I remember the Google Doc thing and the the screenshot of of your notes on your phone. I don't even understand. I don't even understand

the point of that. Like guys, I need to cut because I like to copy and paste these and compile them somewhere and like I didn't have to reach it anyway. We're lazy guys. We're lazy. Caleb just again, anything interesting is anything new here. Manuel Torres, Marisa Rufi. I love it, but let's keep them away for now. I love it. Somewhere down the row of these two maniacs have to fight each other. Let's keep them

kind of moving them towards a higher ranking. It'll happen. It will happen. I thought about this, Mike, but again, experience gap. Roses Jr.,

Jean Matsumoto. Ooh. I thought about it. You like? I kind of like. Because I would put Matsumoto in reality

around the Ricky Simone range. Maybe a couple spots behind him. I mean, look, dude, the Rock Final fight was a huge step up. Close fight. It was a huge step up. The grappling would be super fun there.

I'm okay with it. Okay. I don't love it. It wouldn't be my first choice, but if the UFC booked that fight, I would say, okay. I thought about it.

And I like, I want to talk, this is David Martinez, Charles Jodain, USC 315, late edition. Dude, yeah. We need it, man.

Like that card is, uh, look, we, we know what this card is, is going to be the highest level pay pay per view card that not a soul will pay $85 for. So you might as well put, let's boost these prelims up and at least try to pop a rating on that Saturday. Yeah, man. Dave Martinez, Charles Ardena. Yeah, that's, I would do that. That's a good matchup.

Yeah, I'm surprised Charles Reda has not been announced for $3.15. Again, it is a ways away. I'm sure, though. Something for it. Uh, good job, Keill. Marcus McGahey The Steve Harvey edition We didn't even talk about this

Buffer loudly loudly proclaiming Gabriel Miranda the winner of the Jamal Emmer's fight after just getting bludgeoned That was why I feel It happens to all of us Buff Buff is still a great announcer

But yeah that was very funny So yeah Steve Harvey edition Super Magic wand picks He really Marcus really wants to see Marina Horaguchi And Torres versus M Jones J. Stevens winner

what am I doing here? What is this? Mason Jones, Jeremy Stevens. Right, that's a lightweight bout, right? Jeremy, I don't think Jeremy fights again in the UFC after Des Moines. Marcus, Marcus notes this. He says, I realize Stevens could be won and done. So he is kind of hedging here. Borjas versus Lucas Rocha.

There's another go to Azi-Diaz. Again, some fights we've already seen. Lupi and Ketland-Suzza. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Sure. Good picks. Good picks, Marcus. You try to turn Loopy around for Montreal? I would like to. Yeah, I would like.

And you know, she's, you know, she's down for it. You know, she's down for it. More Canadian content, please. Toby Kinsella, Marino Kopp, Ersec, Elliott, Torres, Torres, Hock Press. I actually love the Torres Hock Press thing. That's a good type. Yeah, I think I just picked someone else for Nasra recently. Goteer-Almeida.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, combat sports experience, big gap for sure. I mean, M.M.A experience not like that. Not that different? I think it's a little soon. I think so, too. But I would say two more wins for Gatier, then we can talk about that.

Give him two more lower level wins, and then we could talk about Sazer. Because Sajor ain't going to shoot takedowns on him. He's going to sit there, and he's going to, he's going to throw hands and feet with him. So for that aspect, I don't mind it. I just think it's a little. Yeah. Again, I like the thinking behind a lot of these goate picks.

It's just, as some people are just a little too established. Barry O'Reilly, Jamal Emmer's Kevin Vallejos, veteran test for the new hottest prospect at Featherweight. Oh, wow. Build up Vallejos against a 30-something fight veteran. This boy. That's not bad. Again, the thinking is good. I feel like the logic is this. This is Barry O'Reilly, our friend Barry.

Barry. this is this might be your best work oh you like it i love it wow this might be the best pick for jamal emmers out of all of them like this is this is where jamal is man like jamal could beat vallahos it could happen yeah good for sure yeah this is this is terrific job outstanding you may you you you may have won no today i think you'll like some more of these how do you feel about goatee and Antonio Trocole. Yeah. Go to a very young

experience match him up with the worst or second worst middleweight on the roster. Yeah, it's probably a baby Tricoli and Medina down.

Yep. Down in the bottom. Sorry, guys. Ooh. Ro Rosas versus Adrian Janies. Ooh. I don't know.

I don't mind it. Yeah. If you're okay with Kyla Phillips, you should be okay with the Yanyes matchup, I feel like, right?

It's like... Yeah. No, I'm not, let's just be clear. I'm not okay with Kyla Phillips. But like if if he has to fight a ranked guy, I would be like the most okay with that.

Right, right. Yeah. I think Giannas actually makes sense, man. And I like this. This is a sneaky one because I think I wasn't aware that this would be a rematch. Aguirrege-Shirez versus Jesus Aguilar dos. Fun rematch for Nocha UFC in Guadalajara.

Sure. Sure. They fought at a ultimate warrior challenge show in 2020. Of course, you remember this, Mike. I don't know why I'm, I don't know why I'm explaining this to you. So UFC should sign Gianni Vasquez, by the way, because he's fought David Martinez and Edgar Chires. He beat David.

He's the one man to defeat David Martinez in a fist fight. And then the Edgar Chiraz fight is one of the more memorable regional scene fights. I was going to say, you did a deep dive into this fight once in a pod time. And it's truly, I would say, disturbing ending, I think would be the accurate description. And Johnny Vasquez has done nothing but win ever since. Is that right? The up next fighting flyweight champion, I believe. He's just running fools over over there, man.

Like he's just winning all the time. That guy should absolutely be on the contender series this year. And by the way, he's done this without repairing his arm because he couldn't afford to do it. Oh, no. He's basically fighting people with like one arm and physical therapy. No surgery, no nothing. and he's still just beating everybody. He is so good, man.

We got to get this guy. There's history with so many fighters and just sign them. It's just fun. I hope so. Well, I hope we got an arm fixed first, but yes,

would love to see Gianni in the UCF. Four and O, four and oh, four and oh, since the Chirres fight. Wow. And let's close out with Speezy 32, banger of a card in Mexico.

I agree. It was a fun one. Moreno versus Sohudo. Okay, well, not everyone's given up on this, I guess. Torres versus CDF. Sharaz

Husse Aguilar did not put the two Speeziered. I guess you're not, you're not up to date with the Shares Aguilar feud. Raul Roses versus Saeed Nirmagombedov. Oh, yeah, I don't know.

It doesn't do anything for me, but I get it. That's a fine fight. That's actually, that's really good, actually. Kevin Borjas, Baby Barbosa versus Daniel Berrez. Atiba Gocee-Azzi-D-Sid.

You have people really like the Gocee-Az-Dias thing. Yeah, I'm kind of with you. Like, it doesn't do much for me. And Ralph Garcia, Tom Nolan, Jamal Embers, Morgan Shariere. That is, that makes a ton of sense to me. And Markell Maderos versus Kurt Holobot.

Guys, you did, can I just say the listener did some, I think, amazing picks this week. I think the listeners were so on point. Again, hey, listen, great card leads to great matchups. And I think, I think patting ourselves in the back, we mentioned Barry Horowitz earlier. Here was a little pat in the back, Mike. I think we had a great show today. Thank you, we had a great show. Yes.

And hopefully we can carry some momentum into next week's show. definitely. I got to tell you. Boy, oh boy. This, I was actually really excited for a while about this. And then I actually looked at UFC Vegas 105. By the way, we're back at the world's most famous Apex because before a pay-per-view, you really want to sell a pay-per-view.

You want to get people to spend $85 on the stack card. You want to get as many eyeballs as possible on your product before asking them to spend $85, the newer fans who have not bought a UFC pay-view for. You throw a card. back in the world's most famous apex, which, according to Mark Shapiro, is exactly the same as Mexico City. And a terrific main event, sarcasm goes away, at least for this few seconds. Josh Emmett is back for the first time since almost killing Bryce Mitchell in the Octagon, facing the unbeaten Lorone Murphy.

Terrific fight. Absolutely A-plus main event right there. Then we have to, uh, then we have to, uh, then we have to, strap in our hardcore seat belts. Joe Anderson Brito versus Pat Sabatini. That's good. Should be fine. Cortavius Ramius versus Chang Ho Lee.

Kennedy N. Chichu versus Martin Boudai. Oh my goodness. Gerald Mearsharp versus Brad Tavar's. I mean, you want to talk about all-time middleweighty Hall of Famers.

These are two of them right here. are ready to do battle. Have they never? Never. How? I'm super looking forward to that. And I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this right now.

My prediction for fight of the night will be Gerald Mirshav or spread to ours. It very well could. They have been like, they've both been fighting for, I don't mean to date these guys, like 40 years, I feel like. These guys have been around forever. And I've never even, I was trying to look like canceled matchup, like fizzled room. I don't see. They never. I am looking for that.

I'm really forward to that. Then, Robert Valentin, right before he has to fight, Gautier, taking on the finally debuting Torres Finney, who, after three fights on the Contender Series, gets his opportunity, gets his contract, and makes his UFC debut. We have Luis Garul versus O'Day Osborne, Davy Grant versus Daniel Santos,

Diani Barbosa versus Deanna Belbilt, I mean, you want to talk about hashtags. Deoni versus Deanna. Love it. Terrific job. So good. Daniel Frunza versus Reese McKee. Get that win.

Get that win. Oh, and four across two stints with the O and four. Who is Daniel Fernza? I have no idea who this man is. No, contender series, no? He is a contender series guy. Okay. He was signed.

Okay. I remember from CES. I remember from CES. So he's probably going to be Reese McKee because, well, I don't know. I mean, if Reese McKee doesn't win this one, I just, I don't know. Mike, he's due. He's due. Brandon won in Mexico City.

I picked a fight night correctly. He's due, man. And then we got Victor Henry versus Pedro Falcao, Vanessa Domopoulos versus Tolita Allencar. And then the opening fight, I have to tell you, I am friggin livid that I have to say this. This angers me to no end. Loma Lekbunmi is fighting Estella Nunes. And why does this anger me? First of all, it doesn't anger me for the Loma Luke Boonme side of things

because she's probably going to get a finish. And that's great. Estella Nunes is supposed to fight Molly McCann two weeks ago. Two, a week ago, eight days ago. They push her back to the world's most famous apex to have Molly McCann get absolutely. dumb trucked by a fighter and then retires in the middle of the octagon when she could have fought Estella Nunes, gotten a first round finish and got me like 275 fantasy points. What is the thinking here?

I'm so frustrated by this. According to Apology, some visa issues with Stelan Nunes. I don't know. Again, this is just hearsay. I don't know for a fact. So you may have been, you may have been screwed by paperwork, my friend. But yes, it is very funny. yes not only like molly mccann would still be fighting today i would probably get a second

fight out of her if that switch had not happened molly mccan would not have retired like her career would it last another six months like she would have gone somewhere and fought again that's wild to think about and instead now she's being fed to loma look with me uh still newness is instead that is very what a what a game we play golly so that's ufc vegas 105 that card ain't great and let me tell you something else the start time also ain't great stop 6 p.m. prelims 9 p.m. main card

What in the world is going on here? Is this because of the final four but why wouldn't they do this early to get it out of the way, right? Isn't the final four next weekend? Yeah. Why wouldn't they just do it early and get it out of the way

so that people could watch the final four after? What other events? Hold on, hold on. This is the, for, Okay. Yeah, there's nothing else. There's Joyce Hergevich that day, but really unrelated. PFL's on Thursday. Oh, my God. It's right. The world tourney.

How could you forget? Who is fighting? What weight classes, Mike? I'm going to put you on the spot. What weight classes are fighting? Okay. He's already shaking. I'm going to say, I'm going to say featherweight and heavyweight, because that's who PFL likes to put out there first.

I feel like welterweight. Is it not welterweights that are kicking at least one of the divisions? I'm not crazy. You guys look at you guys out there in podcast land. I'm saying. April 3rd. Hold on is a da da da da featherweight. All right.

We both got a point. It was featherweight and weather. Yeah, yeah. We got there. We got there. Yeah, yeah. We got there. Oh, yes.

Jason Jackson versus Andre Koreshkov, the main event of PFL1. Jesus Panato versus Adam Borich. He's a good. Those top two fights are really good. Jason Jackson, Koreskov and Panato Borts. The other fights I like from a matchup standpoint, but not stylistically. Like Jeremy Candy, Movla, like Kabbalayev, I like more in theory than how it's probably going to play out. Oh, yeah.

Umalodov and Logan Storley. Yeah, man, PFL is so back this week. They will be in Orlando at Universal Studios, which, by the way, I love that idea. It's a great concept. That's great. Yeah, very smart, very smart. Very WCW Saturday night. Respect the hell out of it.

So yeah. Get ready, MMA fans. So much action coming your way. And we will be back next week to discuss the fallout of UFC Vegas 105 from a matchmaking perspective. So we will see you then, everybody, for AK I am Mike Heck. Thanks for listening. Always remember the golden rule. Don't take this stuff too seriously.

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