MMA Fighting - On To the Next One | Matches To Make After UFC Nashville

Episode Date: August 6, 2023

Cory Sandhagen kept his winning streak rolling… but at what cost? There’s no question that Sandhagen is deserving of a shot at the UFC bantamweight title, but did his safety-first, wrestling-heavy decision victory over Rob Font at UFC Nashville actually hurt his stock? On an all-new episode of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Alexander K. Lee and special guest host José Youngs discuss whether Sandhagen did enough to jump to the front of the contender line or if he’s going to be left hanging regardless of who wins between Aljamain Sterling and Sean O’Malley at UFC 292, and we pose a similar question for the dominant Tatiana Suarez, who is already being called the uncrowned queen of the strawweight division. In addition, future matchups are discussed for main card winners Dustin Jacoby, Diego Lopes, Tanner Boser, and Ludovit Klein. Follow Alexander K. Lee: @alexanderklee Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is not the cherry sweet voice of Mike Heck. You're hearing your usual lead host. This is Alexander Cayley, his best friend and co-host. And I am joined by one of our best friends, Jose Youngs, who is hopping in doing us a favor because Mike is traveling. Mike was in Dallas for the momentous Jake Paul versus Nate Diaz fight, bringing some spicy hot coverage. And the schedules just didn't work out for him to do our usual Sunday matchmaking show. But we are joined by the more than capable Jose making us on to the next one debut, I think, right? I've never done this.

Wow. How does it feel? How does it feel to put on the matchmaking shoes? It goes against a lot of what I think about in terms of my role in MMA, but we will persevere. I don't normally like to pick fights or make fights or there's fights I would like to see, but I rarely say like, I think these two should fight. So this should be interesting to go against my better nature. Yes, we have a fighting picks channel on our company Slack.

For years we've had, Jose has abstained, much like our pal Aero Hulani. Also, generally does not like to pick fights beforehand. He'll do a little bit of gambling segment for, you know, for our pals of draft kings, promo code, the MA hour. But otherwise, you know, when he's pressed to pick a fight, Arrow won't. Jose prefers not to either. You like to break down fights, but you're not going to, you're not super interested in saying, like, oh, this guy's going to kick this guy's ass or whatever. I like, I like, I'm not an ex-as-and-o's type of guy because I've not, I'm not, I'm not Luke.

I'm not, what's his name? Jack Slack or whatever's name. I'm not any of those guys. I like to break down fights and I give my opinion on who has the probable favorite to win based on based on resume

but not wins but just like level of competition if that makes sense. So like for example who did like the woman that fought Shana Bannon is that her name right? That she fought in Ireland. The woman that she fought like she was getting

all this hype but then you look at the woman that she lost to that woman has fought incredibly high level competition in her UFC career. She's lost most of them. But I don't like wins and losses in the UFC are important, especially when picking a fight. But I just kind of look at level of, you might be 0.4.

But if your four losses are to, I don't know, Marob, Corey Sanhagan, Peter Jan and Rob, Rob Font, and then you fight someone outside the top 15, that oh and four like oh you're on a four fight loom street like yeah look who they lost to so that's that tends to be how i picked fights and matchmate fights based on that like level of competition yeah uh prune and brazil the lady that beat uh shana bannon uh but yeah it's good thank you for explaining your methodology where was your attention on saturday because we did have a lot going on there was oh i was i was locked in i was locked down uc nashville i was

locked in because the the timing worked out actually pretty well okay like eric was on Eric Jackman was on site, doing a lot of the on-site social stuff. So I, and if, for Diaz, for Paul Diaz, yeah, yeah. And obviously, for those of you that watch boxing, there's not a lot of content. And so post-fight because they're not like the UFC where they bring in the winners after every fight. They save everyone for the end. And then it's just a car wash.

So it's not hard. Like, I was watching the boxing matches, especially like, I'm, H-2-0 is very, is an intriguing process. I would like to see him actually fight someone high level. And then I think the Chris, and then for whatever reason, like the Avila Stevens fight, like there was a finish in the UFC

so I could watch that fight. And then when that fight ended, the next fight, so it is oddly enough, like the timing worked out really well. It reminds me of, I think it was when Cyborg fought and Jessica Andrade fought Amanda Lemos,

and I believe it was Serrano, Katie Taylor. They all kind of fought on the same weekend or same day maybe. And like one ended and then the next main card. Like every single one was bang, bang, bang. No, there was not a lot of overlap. Yeah, we had three like somewhat fast finishes on the UFC National main card. And that allowed them to get San Hagen and Font out there at a reasonable time.

And by the time San Hagan Font was over, it was clear runway for, for Paul versus Diaz. So I guess it did kind of work out that way. I was live blogging a lot of the Paul Diaz undercards. So I was, you know, what I had USC Natural on, but I admit I may have missed some of the intricacies. of the car overall looked pretty decent it got one uh michoulin star so you know uh out of out of three so that's good it be you know if you know if you were in nashville you and you and you went uh you know if you probably had a good time if you had to drive there or if you flew in for some reason maybe you weren't like super thrilled with uh with the time and money spent but not a bad fight night

card at all uh i hope the relatively uneventful main event didn't leave a bad taste in beles But it was a huge win for Corey Sannagan. Very, very tough situation. Has a new opponent. And Rob Fott was supposed to fight Uyman Omer and Manga Medov. Walks out with a clear 50-45 victory by, yes, mixing the martial arts. Or someone would argue not mixing the martial arts. Instead, really just becoming a wrestler for a night, which I approve of.

And getting the win, most importantly, staying in the wind column. A lot of booze. Dana White reportedly left after the fourth round. It's usually not a good sign. And his, I don't know how strong his championship case. is right now. So, Jose, as the guest, I will let you go first. What is next for Corey Sanhagen

in your eyes? Erotocracy-wise, it should be the winner of Al Jermaine and Sean O'Malley. Well, let me rephrase that, because Al-Germain's most likely going to go up if he wins, which means if he wins, it'll be a vacant title, which means I would

assume San Hagan is one-half of a probable vacant title fight. Now, if O'Malley wins, I don't know if they give O'Malley, Corey Sanhagen because I think Dana Dana holds a grudge. He doesn't like to he doesn't really like to

reward fighters he thinks don't put on the fight that he wanted, especially once going up against a fight that he very clearly hates and Nate Paul versus Nate Paul Jake Paul versus Nate Diaz. So if O'Malley wins, I wouldn't be surprised if they kind of, if they try to slot in. I mean

when is the Cheeto fight happening? is doesn't Cito have a new fight against Pedro Munoz? Yes. Marlon Vera. I'm just looking this up real quick. I'll just feel free of clicking and clattering. Marlon Vera, Pedro Munoz, August 19th. Same day.

So that's the same day. That on the 292. So if Cheeto and O'Malley both win, I bet the UFC tries to do that, if you're asking me, if I think Corey Sanhagan needs to be fighting for a title next, whether it's against O'Malley or against fill in the blank

for a, a vacant title. Now, Marab and Henry Suhudo seem to want to fight each other. I actually do think that fight makes sense. Storyline-wise, ranking-wise, and all that kind of stuff. Peter Yan needs a not top five matchup. Umar, he just needs another win. I think he's obviously going to be there soon at the top. So if you're asking me who, it's going to be Corey saying in a title fight, it's just a matter of who. Unless O'Malley and she'll win, then I can, I am very willing to bet that they're part of, I bet they're the co-man event for that December pay-per-view. Because O'Malley seems pretty vocal that he doesn't want to fight in New York.

And that's like the next, that's like the previous pay-per-view. January, I'm hearing rumblings of not in America for a pay-per-view. So I bet that December pay-per-view looks real enticing. Yeah. And O'Malley win is probably, I don't want to say it's the worst case scenario, because as much as as Dana White does hold a grudge, as much as people seem to be unhappy about how Corey won that. I won Saturday's main event. He still won. He still has a good reputation.

I hope people don't hold that against him. He should be part of one half of a fight for a vacant title. But yes, O'Malley could end up getting a different challenger. I don't know if Corey will be at the top of that list. So it is true. It is better if there's two spots to be fought for. If Aljo does win and just vacate. I wonder if, let's say, Aljo had a close win,

would Dana White just? throw O'Malley right back into a baking title fight. That's certainly entirely possible. I think, like you said, Cheater-Over could win, and then maybe him and Marab would fight for it. So much of our talk on Saturday's post-fight, post-fight recap show, excuse me, with Shaheen and Jed Michoud revolved around

how badly was San Hagan's title hopes hurt by, you know, fighting such a safe, conservative style. So they're pretty convinced, or Jed at least, Jed is vehemently convinced that he just, like, sunk his stock. really badly. I'm kind of with you. I'm not so sure,

but it is much better if it's a vacant opportunity and not if O'Malley wins. So I think there's a chance. I just feel like San Hagan is not guaranteed anything. Yeah. I think this is a chance

they just rebook the Umar fight, which feels pretty unfair. Because this was the, you know, this was the spot where he was supposed to fight Umar. Beating Ra'Font is not the same as beating Umar.

I totally understand that. But he kind of did what he was supposed to do. He signed on for the U.C. National Main Event. He did the thing. he won the fight but it just makes if you're the matchmakers

you're pretty much likely holding Sanhagen stock in neutral and just saying yep let's see him beat Umar we want to see him fight him more right and did you listen to his post fight interview in the cage? What did he say exactly he thinks he tore his tricep in the first round? Yes yes

so that's also a factor depending on how bad that tear is if it is a tear he said he's been having a lot of arm issues in general and he thinks he tore it so if he's on shelf is he's on the shelf like we saw you for haska was the champion and he quote unquote had the worst shoulder injury danaway has ever seen in the ufc and then he hasn't fought more than a year so it's wonderful to match me of cori san hagan against anyone on the top of the team but if he has

one arm i mean honestly i'd favor cori san hegan one arm against a lot of people in the ufc literally i just want i want to see him 100%, especially if it's for a title and especially if it's against umar and margumato and depending who you are as we've seen in the ufcc waiting can some times be hugely to your benefit. Again, I don't know if Corey's standing has that kind of cachet. I would like to think so, given the wars he's put on for the UFC. Yeah. The highlights he's put on for the UFC.

Stepping it on a short note for a short note's total fight already once, you know, getting that that Piotr-or-Yon opportunity. Or was that interim title fight? Against Yon, yeah, because that was when Al Jermaine had the neck shirt or something. Yeah. So I feel like Corey's done them a solid already. I mean, they would argue, oh, well, we gave him an interim title shot, whatever. but I mean, I think he did them a solid by taking the fight.

So I hope he's in good standing. But you're right. Maybe we don't see him for a while if this shoulder injury is serious. And that could be the classic blessing in disguise. But we will see. I'll read out some Sanhaken suggestions later from the fans. I haven't actually taken much of a look at those. But I assume most people are calling for him to get some part of a title shot.

Now, if he wants a legacy fight, like say they go, say O'Malley wins. and Cheetah wins. They're like, you know what, Corey? Like, we're going to do this fight. We're going to strike where the iron is hot. Like, especially if O'Malley and Cheeto have a run in backstage and they can like play that and like the world is clamoring for Cheeto O'Malley too. I would not, and I can guarantee you both men would not be opposed to Sanhagen, Dominic Cruz.

Corey Sanhagen has been pretty vocal that Dominic Cruz is one of his idols growing up. not like I want to emulate this man as a human, but like he's one of his favorite fighters to watch. And I remember that was kind of a storyline early in his career, especially in his first couple fights in the UFC, Dom Cruz called them. And Dom was like, I guess I could see the similarities.

I think that would be a very fun legacy fight, especially if Dom wants to go out. Or if Dom wants to, Dom would not say no. Corey San Higgins ranked fourth in our rankings. Dom Cruz is ranked fourth. I don't think he's going to say no to a top five fight. And I think Cruz's possible last fight might be enough to entice Corey Zanagan a fight outside the top 10.

I wish we got more. We've talked a lot about Dominic Cruz legacy fights. I still wish he'd fought Aldo. We've had none of them. We've had none of them. We've had none of the same fight, although Frankie Edgar. Frankie Edgar, I would have loved to see, I would have loved to see a Dillishar rematch. That didn't happen.

I guess Marlon Bear is the guy. But that's weird. That felt like it had no storyline and it ended quite horribly for that. That was a fight that Dom even said like this is for a title shot and stuff like that. Like that was an actual like meritocracy. Like that fight made sense. It was a main event. It was in his hometown.

Like even if it like I think Dom, like Dom Cruz gave a list. He wanted a crowd. He wanted a higher ranked opponent. And he wanted a main event and he wanted to be healthy. So that's four things. And he got all four of them. So yeah, the, the cruise fight was sad to watch, but it made sense the match. making ones. Well, let's meet those conditions again.

UFC. Give, give, uh, Corey Sanhagan and Dominic Cruz a pay-per-view spot and an actual venue. Main event and fight night wouldn't be bad either. As long as not the apex, yes, as long as not the apex. I agree. I don't think, I don't think Cruz is ever going to go back to the Olympics. No, he won't do that. If you remember when Sanhagen fought Cheeto, that was supposed to be at the apex and then the UFC booked it for San Antonio. So like even the UFC was like this, I don't think Corey Sanhagen is fine for the apex anytime soon. Good. That's that's nothing but good news.

Yeah. I hope the same can be said of our next winner, Jose and our next woman. Her passing is pretty clear. Well, on paper it would be, but then there's a murky situation at top of 115. Tatiana Suarez, officially back at 115, she did have her comeback fight a few months ago against Montan de la Rosa. Look fantastic. Took it at 125 wisely. You know, her first fight back in a long time.

Didn't want to worry about a weight cut. It was the rare sort of very appropriate MMA tune-up fight. We just don't see two no fights in MMA. And with respect to De La Rosa, that's what that was. And then now she makes a proper drop down to Womteen. Was supposed to fight Vrana Janjoba instead gets matched up with an even bigger name. Tougher fight. On short notice.

Yeah, tougher fight. Jessica Androj, didn't make it look like a tough fight. Big, bigger. She's a big, strong wrestler, took Jessica Andros down, submitted her in the second round. All five of our staff who regularly make picks, pick second round submission in a rare moment where we were actually right about something. Jose, I'm going to go to you again because my pick is kind of me

but yeah, break it down why it's you know, it's not quite obvious to give Tatanas a title shot and where you're going with this. Because there's Jan Jan Janan sitting there too and I'm not saying that Jan is a better fighter. It's just she's been active and she's also

beaten Jessica Andraj in her last fight. So she did it before Tatiana and this was when Jessica, like it's at the time it was more impressive. You know, it was like a, like, Jan Janjan is not someone known for knocking you out. It was, it reminded me a lot of when Carla beat Jan. Like, like, we, a lot of the narrative was, oh, Carla needs to look impressive to get that title shot. And then she went out there and ran through

it. And that got her to the title shot. Same thing with, with Jan. Like, she lost to Carla Sparza, and then she lost to Marina Rodriguez in a very, very close fight. I think that's a fight people don't remember. And then beat McKinsey Dern in front of, uh, Mark Zuckerberg and then went out there and knocked out Jessica Andrade So I think like And I'm not gonna lie

The possibility of especially if Wei Lee beats Amanda Lemos If the UFC goes back to China A Yan versus Wei Lee fight In anywhere in Asia is big numbers I think If Jan was if Janjana was not there It's how Jena so I would be fighting for a belt

I just think The Asian market is obviously huge in anything any sport like look at the NBA like remember when Yao Ming was on the rockets and and every single starter on the rockets would get voted into the all-star game just because of Chinese fans voting like Rayfer Alston would make the all-star team they'd be like I don't know he was close yeah and no one and I would not have complained I wouldn't need this because I wouldn't hate if it's tough because I don't want that I don't want someone to knock off a

contender because Whaley is not someone that seems to struggle to make straw weight. So it's not like her time is fleeting at this weight class. I want to see her active. Yon versus Whaley would be a lot of fun. I don't think we need to rush Tatia on Tottaille's shot because I think not that she is because she lost so many years of her life. I think she's going to get the belt eventually. Like I think she's the uncrowned champ.

The problem is I have no idea who you give her because already beat Carla. Rose is going up, just beat Jessica Andraj and Amanda Lema is just fighting for the belt. Those are all the people ranked above her. I have absolutely no idea. Unless you don't want an injunction comes out of retirement, then I have no idea.

She has to fight back. I think we're going to... She cannot... It's weird. We're talking about can Corey Sandhagan afford to wait. Touching on Sorars is clearly a hotter property right now, but it feels weird for her to wait just because she just came back.

Like she just came back. And there's a lot of buzz after Saturday night. We ran a, we ran a poll on the YouTube's during the post-fight show. And it was, who was the biggest star of Saturday night? I mean, Nate Diaz far and away, 55%. And he ran away with that. But, and Jake Paul was second. Suarez was third.

So well ahead of Corseille. I think San Higgan was like 7%. Wow. At Tatiana came in 12%, 13%, so she impressed. She looks like what we keep saying she is, which is the, what do you want to say? the female Habib, the most dominant grappler among any woman in the UFC, maybe any woman in the world in MMA. She has just looked fantastic. And I'm with you.

The situation is screwed up. UFC should have waited to book Jan versus Zhang instead of going great for Amanda Lomuch getting that title shot. But that kind of, it was kind of confusing because Jan beat Andraj. We saw Andrash beat Lomash with that standing arm triangle not too long ago. I get it was a timing thing. Maybe Yon just wasn't ready for the date that they wanted or they feel like they could have had Yon fight after.

But now here comes Suarez, who clearly deserves a title shot. Now, the thing I'll say with that is, I agree the timing sucks and I don't think it's, I actually, I don't agree with the, they should have waited to make Yon because Amanda Lemos I think also deserved the shot at the time

because they booked that fight before Yon had fought on Jessica Androdd. So at the time, I actually think it did make sense. Now, I don't know how much you pay attention, but I had a blast when I covered Road to the UFC, road to the Octagon, whatever you want to call it. Essentially the Asian markets version of,

it's not even the version of anything. It's kind of, it's an actual tournament. It is a real, it is a real, whatever, what MMA fans always want in the UFC, it's a real tournament. You were going to say the ultimate fighter, then you stopped yourself. 100%. Jose, mentions of the ultimate fighter are not only welcome

on onto the next one but encouraged. So please feel free to save the ultimate fighter as many times you want. This is essentially the ultimate fighter without people living in the house. Yes, without the, we can swear on the show, the bullshit. And let's let's go. Without the rigmarole and Tom. The rigamarole. That's better.

So I, I covered the first episode, the first, because it was in Singapore. And I thought it was awesome. I had a lot. I thought the fights were very fun. I thought the product was fun. I thought talking to the fighters is very interesting because, because there was fighters from India, there was Thai fighters, there was Japanese, Chinese. Now, the road to the UFC is, I think that it's kicking off or it's the second fight.

I don't remember what rounded is at this point, but that's on the Singapore card in August. Now, the finals of last years was supposed to be in Korea because that was going to be Zombie's final fight, but then the zombie got hurt. And remember they moved the entire car to the Apex. That was, I think, Derek Lewis Spivak. And that's why it was in such a weird time slot. because that was supposed to be in Korea. Now, if the UFC goes to Asia for the finals again

and Whaley wins, there's your main event. Whaley Yon in China, in Singapore, and wherever. Like, if you put, like, you and Casey obviously can speak to this more than me, but I think that's what they're waiting for, especially if they want to do that because last year's, it wasn't a disaster because the fights were great, but zombie even apologized. for getting hurt because he kind of robbed the Asian fighters

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on magazine. Yeah, it feels like it has to happen. Yahn has been talking about wanting to fight Jean Wili for a long time.

So this isn't like some new thing. She's up, you know, as she was coming up, she was getting asked. Like, oh, would you ever fight Jenks? Of course. Of course, she would answer country women. But of course, of course, she understands the magnitude of the matchup. So that does have to happen. I just settled on Tabitha Ritchie for Tatiana Suarez.

It's a stay busy fight with apologies to the baby shark, who's a fun fighter, exciting fighter. I'm not sure the UFC sees her as world champion material. Not to say she can't get there. I think just right now, she's somewhere in the top 10 at 115. It is a dangerous fight. mean, if you're Suarez, it's a gained very little fight for sure. But unless she wants to sit, which really, I don't want to, you know, I don't think she can. I think she does a fight.

So Tabitha Ritch's name that I settled on, but as you mentioned, Jose, you could rebook Vyuna Janjarova, but Vyana, I believe, had a knee injury. Who knows when that's going to clear up. Otherwise, there's just not a lot of options. So I do think she fights again. I'll go Baby Shark. And, of course, if you're Ritchie, you jump on that opportunity because, who knows, maybe you get the upset, steal some shine.

We have four more main card fights to go through here, Jose. So we can go kind of quickly because a bit of a smorgas board. It's not a lot of people who are like immediate contenders. They're kind of in the middle cluster of the rankings. So we don't have to dwell over these too much. For Dustin Jacoby, I will say I went with Yuan Kutalaba rematch. They fought a couple of years ago. Pretty close fights, split draw.

I had on a previous show where Kutelaba had won, I wanted him to fight Modestus Bukascus. Bukascus is booked to fight Vitor Petrino in November, which on my Otno score card freeze him up, my dance card, I should say, freeze him up. And I still want to see that rematch. I think I've called for this before. I think listeners have called for this before.

I just think it's a fight that makes sense. So run that one back, him and Kuchelab at Jacoby. Don't hate it. I like his call out of Volcanoz de Merr. Vulcan is sitting at 14. I think he made a very good point where he, especially in his post, did you listen to Post-Fade interview at all? I did not.

So when he laid it out, because he's not in the prime life, he's like right at the tail end of his prime, I think. He was an incredibly high level glory kickboxer, which seems to be all the rage in MMA these days. He's a strong base. For those of the that don't know,

Justice Kobe fought Alex Pereira in glory. Like, so I would eventually see that rematch in the U.S. in MMA, I would be all about it. He's so dangerous that he was strong. struggling to find his Jan Blahovic, like high-ranked guy willing to risk it against, like, an incredibly dangerous unranked striker. He's like, the last few fights, I've had to fight back. Like, I deserve to fight forward now.

And I agree. Like, I hadn't really thought about it because I was like, oh, you know, maybe the loser of Anthony Smith and who's Anthony Smith fighting? Crylov. Is he fighting Krylov? I think so. I could just be making that up. You could be, but you wouldn't.

He is fighting, Ryan Span remand. Oh, Ryan Span. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that's correct. So he's not going to fight Anthony Smith because they're teammates. Now, if Ryan Span wins, that would be a fun fight. If Ryan Span wants to keep the storyline going against that camp, the Mark Montoya camp in Denver,

I personally like the O'S-Demar fight because he said it. And I think as media members, we can all agree when there's a name that someone said. in their post-fight interview, we all love it, and it gives it something to talk about. That's my pick. Vulcan Ulster America, he's ranked 14th. I think it's a good litmus test.

That was, I think Vulcan's kind of become a good test for a lot of fighters breaking into the top 15, especially at this point in his career. He can beat anyone, he can lose to anyone. So that's my thing. If Mike were here, he would first say, well, he'd say, well, thank you, Jose for taking over for me. And then he would say,

sometimes we don't like it when fighters do our jobs for us on to the next one. We were a little offended. We do get a little offended sometimes. We also have a thing on Otno where if a fighter is already booked, and I'm not blaming you for this. You are simply going with Dustin Jacoby, Dustin Jacoby Callout. Oostomere is booked. I don't know if it's, I can't remember if this was announced or it's just reported and it's out there in the wind.

He is supposed to be fighting Azamat Murzacanov on September 2nd. I don't know if we confirm this inmatefighting.com, so it might not be 100% officish, but that is the rumor. So we call these, when these kind of mistakes are made, and not you, Jose, I'm blaming Dustin Jacoby. Sure. We call these do-do picks. So a little bit of do-do, but I get it. Listen, maybe Dustin knows something we don't. Maybe he means he wants to fight Volkan winner-win or lose.

Maybe he ends up getting the winner of that fight. No, well, he already beat Osmond. In kickboxing? No, that was Osmond's last loss. Oh, wait a minute. That was April. Yeah. Okay. That's, so.

So Falka, like that heat, you know, like light heavy weight. like just fight everyone fights especially in like ranked 15 to 30 that would be weird if Vulcan wins and then Dustin has to beat but Vulcan does I mean as much as Matt it's the name yeah yeah and Azamette would be ranked above Vulcan if he beats him

Vulcan does have the name and he's a former world title challenger so there's a pedigree there so wow thank you though there go dude to pick for me because I totally forgot that that I was like just happened I was like I feel like that fight because I remember that fight being weird for like Jacoby beat him but it was like a decision fight

you know yeah so yeah could so could be could be vulcan other way so you know what maybe you know Dustin and and Jose I apologize maybe not maybe not a maybe not a duty pick maybe it still makes sense yeah maybe it still makes sense other way Vulcan is a guy like his only losses are to cry love who is incredibly violent and the facts that he reached a decision against crylov that's a win because that rarely happens so vulcan's love to cry love off the top of my head Vulcan Yeri Prohaska, Dominic Gray, Anthony Smith, Daniel Cormier. Yeah.

All champions slash contenders or challengers slash Dickie de Kroff. Jose, I wish you were here in the ranking show like six months ago when the boys were busting my proverbial balls for having Volkan ranked in my top 12 for like forever. Like, why aren't you dropping on Volkan? Why aren't you drop on Volkan? I'm like, who has he lost to?

They were bullying me, Jose. It was ugly, man. And I was trying to tell him like, who did he lost to? I think the problem. is in that scenario. Our co-workers are incompetent? Well, we watch MMA, which I can't say for,

I can't say for everyone at MMA fighting. You know? I'm not saying I agree with you, but I'm not not saying that. Well, to that, like, because like, people can, you know, just because a fighter exits the case doesn't mean

we have to forget what happened, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's move on. On a nicer note, Diego Lopez. It's got something good.

That's looking good in the UFC. I heading into this fight with Gavin Tucker, I had kind of warned people a little bit not to give him like too much credit for a great, a good performance against Mosov-Rov that did result in a loss. I think some people are kind of like giving him a moral victory. He did lose that fight, but clearly talented. And I didn't pick Gavin Tucker for the fact that Gavin Tucker, my fellow Canadian respect, is a little old.

It was 37 heading into the fight. And I hadn't fought in over two years. And that just smelled disaster to me. So I did pick a Lopez win. And Lopez is a great, amazing submission, amazing Arm Bar. So he lived up to whatever height people have been building up from. He lived up to it. I cannot tell at all where his stock is.

Jose, I would love to know where you are placing this guy right now. And, of course, who you'd like to see him fight next. I'm, he's a very good talent. He's very, more importantly, fans love him. I don't know if you watch the ceremonial way. but he got a pop. Like people love this guy. I think his debut

against Evovlo really like endeared him to fans, taking the fight on short notice and almost winning. I just don't know because I'm, I'm, he's so good, such a good grappler.

I'm worried that he might, I'm not worried, that's not the right word, but like Joel Alvarez or who's the guy that Dan Hooker beat in New York? Claudia, Claudio, uh,

What's his last name? Oh, wait, we got to be talking featherweights here, Jose. No, I know. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, these aren't my picks. I'm comparing. Oh, you're going on a journey. You're taking me out of journey. Okay, okay.

My bad. Yes. So like these, Claudio Poyas, yeah. Claudio Poyas and Joel Alvarez, like, they were winning and winning impressively and having good fights. Oh, I see. And then they're like, oh, this guy is a, is a prospect. And then Joel Alvarez, like, I think, fought like, Arm and Sarukian.

Yep. And then Claudio fought Dan Hooker. And they did not look good in those. fights. They got Molly Wads. I'm worried. No, worry is not the right word. I think that I don't want that to happen to Diego Lopes where he gets all these, these fights that play into his favor, and then gets thrown against a veteran, and then gets beat bad. So I would not mind a slow buildup with this guy to gauge his level of skill. The advantage that Lopez has, and I think why some people were high in him, even going into the Moldstar fight, like people were kind of, not that they thought

he would upset him, but they were like, oh yeah, this guy's a lot, because he was a replacement, I think, but they were like, this guy's a good replacement. He's been, he's 28 years old, so he's in his prime. Yeah. He's been fighting since 2012. He has almost 30 pro fights. And before coming to the UFC, he had fought several former UFC fighters. I'm just looking his record, Honey Jason, Marco Beltran, Mascio Fulin.

So he's fought guys. He's fought experienced guys. And I guess that's why people are so eager to push him up. Because, you know, we do like to give a lot of credit for, you know, sometimes people ignore the pre-fight UFC records. This guy had a whole career before coming to the UFC already. and now he's coming into the I believe he's Alexa Grasso's

jujitsu coach too there you go so there's a lot there's a lot to like there so I get people wanting to push him up high so I'm sorry I don't think if I got to clear how high do you want to go Jose still outside the top 15

but I would like a I have a pick who I want to see him fight I want to see him fight Damon Jackson next they both fought on the same card Damon Jackson just lost to Billy Q Billy Q has lost to Gavin Tucker so I think if with Diego beating Gavin the way he did

Billy beating Damon I would like to see because Damon Jackson is also he's no spring chicken either he has like what 28 fights whatever he seems to be another guy that had he had 20 plus fights under his belt before getting the UFC as well and his only losses are to what Ilya who I remember just got

folded he folded Damon Jackson Dan Ikeye who he also folded and then Billy Q three very tough guys, has beaten everyone else. I think Diego Lopes is the, versus Damon Jackson is, I think, a fun fight too.

Damon is incredibly durable. Whether Damon wants another fight against a high-level grappler is another thing, but that's my pick. I liked your use of MMA math there with the, you know, Tucker beat Quarantillo, Quintillo just beat Damon Jackson. So Lopez is kind of now Lopez.

Yeah. Now Lopez beat Tucker. So he's cast to be in that mix there. Good. That was off the top. You didn't use the MA fighting calculator, right? You know we're not allowed to use that anymore. I don't know what that means. Okay, good. Okay. Oh, you don't know. Okay. The MA fighting. Well, it's my fault. I kept using the MA fighting math calculator, I like to call it, that our company has. And it costs 86,000 US every time. Yeah, yeah, every time. So for like two minutes of use. So that was my fault. We're not allowed to use anymore. I'm impressed that you did that off the top of your head. So if our accountants are out there, we did not use it. it please don't get angry with us. That was straight. Rhode Island education. New England education system. Yes, sir.

Wow, impressive. Whoa, it represent. I kind of went along the same lines. I went with another veteran. These guys are really tightly packed in my rankings. They're both around the 20 to 30 range. I went to Dale Paneda. I can't remember Panetta last fought.

He's coming off a loss. But same idea. Kind of serves the same function as Damon Jackson. Respectable record, action fighter, and would be a nice name for Diego Lopez to have his resume. He just lost to Casares, Bruce Leroy. Yeah, but it was the beginning of the year? That was June, if I remember correctly.

I think that was on the Ka-Car-Franzao-Farzzi fight. Yeah, yeah. He is coming off a loss. So, yeah, but I'm fine with that. So I like Damon Jackson. I like Pina. I like both of those fights. I think we both agree someone who has like a similar amount of overall pro

experience, but not necessarily a top 20 guy. And just tough, a guy that's, tough to finish. Yeah. Because Diego has, like most of his fights are first-round stop, stoppage wins, which is why I'm,

I just, I need someone to test him. Well, I don't know, Paneda and Jackson would probably, but could end in another fast finish either way. Yeah, they're both action against.

Tanner Bozer. Speaking of, we talked about Gavin Tucker. Talk about Canadians. Tanner Bozer. Jose, they say you don't get a second chance to make a first impression,

but here he was. Fighting at 205 again, you know, after a lack, I don't say lackluster. He got, He got caught by Yuan Kutjalaba. Many fighters have.

And he got beat. He got beaten in the first round. It happened. So he gets his fight with the returning Alexa Kamer, another guy who is, I think he hadn't fought in 777 days on the dots. So it picks up unanimous decision, you know, maybe not a fight in the night winner. Maybe not a fight what we're talking about by the end of the year. But to get that first W-O-205, a pretty big deal.

Again, we talked about this sort of being the smorgasbord portion of the matchmaking segment. I just had to look at my internal rankings. and go Maxim Grishen. Why? I don't know. Maxim Grishon is available. He's about the range where I would rank Tanner Bozer right now.

And, you know, it's just a credible opponent. Otherwise, a lot of other people are booked. So I don't know. Jose, what do you like for Bozer? What's his face? I'm literally just thought thinking it on it. Who's the duels?

What's his, the duelist, Ehor? Ehor, Puertoria. I think he has a fight. Let me check. I could be. wrong. Like I, because he just lost, he just lost in May. I know that. He got, you are, he got smashed by Oldberg. Oh, he got smashed by

Ulberg. Uh, yes, you're right. He is not booked. There you go. Why not? There you go. He's in the range. I have him ranked, uh, 31st. Well, wow, actually heading into Saturday's card. I have not updated these rankings. I had Potaria 31 and Tanner Bozer 32. So there you go. Get out of my rankings, Jose. Get out of my hard drive. Get into my car. Get into my dreams. I think we can move on from there. And then opening the card. That's funny. The wild card of the lightweight division.

Ludovic Klein, I have no idea if this guy is good, but he keeps winning fights. He takes a lot of short notice opportunities. He's actually since returning to 155 March of last year, 3.0 and 1. 3.0 and 1 wins over Devante Smith, Mason Jones, and now Ignacio Bahamandas,

and he had a majority draw at 286. So against Jai Herbert. So undefeated technically in his last four fights, not a bad run for Ludovit. He's missing that finishing form that got him on the UFC's radar. But Ignacio Pohamandez came in as the favorite, I'm pretty sure. And Klein gets the unanimousition odds. So where did you go in the stacked lightweight division for Ludovic Klein? Well, it's tough because Lodovic Klein.

I remember his UCD debut was on Fight Islands when he fought Shane Young. He missed weight. He missed weight. But I interviewed. was the fight card. I interviewed everyone from city kickboxing on the couch together. And Shay Young was like, eh, he's all right. Kicks a lot of people in the head, but he's

look at the level of competition. I mean, losing the Michael Tarzano-Nay-Landware is no, like that's, they're good fighters, but then Devante Smith at one point was a name, Mason Jones former champion in Cage Warriors. Jai Herbert is

a huge human being, like a physically huge human being. And I know Herbert got deducted a point. So, but he also, how many fights does this Lord of a Klan have? Like 25, 26, something like that. He's a 24, uh, 25, actually. I think you're right, 25. You got to give him someone a little higher ranked.

Not higher ranks, but like, who should he fight? Ah, I know. I just, I just thought of a name. He was, so Lord of a Clown was supposed to fight Jim Miller, if I remember correct, right? Am I making that up? UFC, uh, June 3rd, the car of France, Albaazi card.

So they were supposed to fight. Yes. Give him Clay Guida next then. Clay Guida is coming off a loss. Lord of a Client was supposed to fight one veteran. Give him the other veteran. I want to save Jim Miller for UFC 300 against whoever. I don't think Lod of a Klein should be the fighter for UFC 300.

I think that'll be like a Bobby Green type person. That Bobby Green seems pretty interesting in that fight. I wouldn't much. So the next tendered lightweight, Clay Guida. Clay Guida is what, lost two of three in his last few fights to Claudio, who he got knee bar. and I think Rapha Garcia and then he obviously beats Scott Holtzman in the split. Give him a load of accline.

All right. I like that. I like going the veteran angle. Always a fun way to go. I'm going with another, someone's event, again, a bit closer to him.

I should stop throwing out of this name because this guy's schedule is so hard to predict. I think he's just had bad luck with injuries and other things preventing him from fighting. But I like Mike Davis. I want to see Mike Davis fight. Mike Davis. Yeah. We throw him out there on onto the next one a lot. Very popular listener pick.

But he fights like one. year. Did he fight this year? I don't know, man. He's so, he's fun, man. He's so good. He's so fun. But since 2019, he's fought three times, I think. I think in the last four years, he's fought three times. He fought

this past October, and I didn't hear anything about any injuries since, but again, hard to tell with him. Hard to tell him. Just does not fight frequently. So if he's available, him and Klein make a lot of sense. Otherwise, again, it's pretty wide open for Klein. And really, the past three guys we mentioned,

It's probably out there. Is Zudas manage a welterweight now? No, he is a lightweight. Oh, that's... Sorry, no, no, no. He, I shouldn't say it. He is a lightweight, but you're right. He took his last fight at welterways.

Yeah. But he was short notice for replacement, right? I can't even... I don't think so. Not to my knowledge. I mean, he should stay there because he looked really good. He should. I mean, I want to see that fight,

not because I think that's like an incredibly high level competition or anything like that. But I interviewed both of those men within a week of each other. And I get those two confused so much, Lodaviklian and Udoz Medich, that they just need to fight because they

need to determine which one I need to remember. Like that's just a Jose, like fight to, fight to determine who stays in the Jose brain bank. Yeah, yeah. This is, they need to do this for you. Yeah. Not for any, not for you. Not for you. Not for you. I don't think that's legal. Yeah, yours, well, you spoiled my wild card pick because I want to see, I had forgotten that that was a one time thing at Walter Wade.

So I was like, oh, yours Medici would be a good opponent for my wildcard pick, Carlson Harris. Because I think Carlson Harris, I think he hasn't had a chance to fight in the main card yet. So I don't know when I'm ever going to get to pick for Carlson Harris. And I like him. And a comeback win of the night. I mean, it looked like he was going to, he was cruising into decision loss. I don't know. I should say I don't know.

I'm sure smarter, more grappling, intelligent-minded people than me can tell you why Jeremiah Weld was not able to finish his choke on Harris earlier in the fight. It looked tight. It looked uncomfortable, but Harris never, Harris never looked like he was panicking. He didn't look like he was panicking.

He didn't look, I don't think he was close to tapping. And I swear, I'm like, he's going to go to sleep. I thought Jeremiah was, what Jeremiah was going to put him to sleep, but something must have been off with the technique.

And then Jeremy Wells showed. sorry Carlson Harris showed Jeremiah Wells how it was done so impressive for him I want to give him a fight I'll go with Medeach if he stays at 170 coming off a really nice win over Matthew Semmelsberger but again it could he's in the sort of third tier of welterweights right now so I don't know where they're going to go cross and Harris but I had to give him a shut up big ups big ups CH do you have a wild card pick Jose is there anyone you'd like to it could be a look it could be someone who lost the fight wild card is is anyone on this card who competed yes I I would like to see Sean Woodson fight one of two people.

Oh, either Nate Landware, because I think that's just a fun fight. I think Nate Landwar is very durable. He's very exciting. I think Sean Woodson has not had the opportunity to showcase how good he really is because he's on that Mike Davis schedule where he's fought once a year since he got into the UFC and all of his wins are fun. He almost didn't fight on this card. They moved heaven.

an earth to keep him on Saturday's card. They gave him four different opponents. And he's a guy, I think he's a very fun interview. I think he's very charismatic. I think he has an exciting fun. I'm not going to say he's going to be a superstar, but he

has the, he's I don't know how to phrase this. He could be like a Bobby Green or like a Mazvi doll. Like he's about that life. I think he's a, and he's, more importantly, like He's very good in media days.

Like he has interesting anecdotes. He's not playing a character. Like, his, the story of when he got the throat tattoo and he was trying to hide it from his mom is very fun. He called me out on one of like Mike interviewed him. So when he beat, I want to say when he beat,

I can't even remember who he fought because it was so long ago. I went on the Holloway-air fight. Sean Woodson won on the undercard like beat him bad. And he was like styling on him like, and like, and like making faces and showboating and the thing. It was fun. And then I go, so Max says he's the best boxer in the UFC.

And Sean Woodson kind of went on a tangent why Sean Woodson is the best boxer in the UFC. And then the next time Mike Heck interviewed him, he's like, your boy stirring the pod. And Mike's like, how do you know that he's my boy? He goes, I recognize him from your post shows. Oh, my gosh. Oh, great. Sean Woodson's the man. Oh, that's real.

Fan of the product. So Nate Landwar, because I think that would be a fun, like just two guys banging into each other. Maritocracy-wise, I think the loser of Cubs Swanson, Akeem DeWater. I think it would be a fun fight. Oh, I like that. I like that. Hakeem-de-Water, like, I think Hakeem, he obviously missed weight loss time.

Who did he lose to? Julian? I'm going to look this up because I'm not even going to guess. My memory on these things is terrible. As everyone who listens to the show are going to know. I think it was Julian Orozah. I think it was in December. He lost a unanimousion to Julianneurosa on September 10th, U.

U.C. 279. That was, yeah, that was the, what, September. So that was the Nate Diaz, the Nate Diaz. Correct. Yes, he missed weight badly. Yeah. And I know Sean Woodson has lost to Julian. I think that was his second or third fight in the UFC.

Julian's obviously in a different fighter now. Eventually, I would like see that fight run back. I think that's a fight that Sean Woodson took too early in his career. I think, so yeah. And then Cubs Cwanson, if he loses to Keen, can't really say no to anyone. and then if Akeem loses, he also can't say no to anyone. I think that's a fight that Sean Woodson, I think he deserves a high, like a fun scrap.

Because if you, you know, like, Sean Woodson got into the UFC by beat it, by knocking out Terrence McKinney with a flying knee. Yeah. And then piecing up Kyle Botanyak in Boston and Kyle's hometown. Like, I really like Sean Winston's style and his personality. Yeah. And I just want to see him actually stay active.

He's distinct, too. like he's market old because he's massive he's he's tall boy you see him yeah i think i i think i just watched him fight with my mom once or something and she was like who's this weirdo or not weirdo it's a mean thing to say but like he stands out like she she she stopped what she was doing she got she her eyes raised up from her tablet to watch him fight she was like i this and i think she thought she's like oh he's so skinny like he's going to get killed and i'm like no it's you know watch this guy he's he's interesting so uh so anyway so he has a bit of you know he has some So that's my definition of crossover appeal.

You know, does it get my mother's attention? But yeah, listen, he's only lost Julina Rosa three years ago. It could be time to run it back. I don't know how interested Julianneurosa would be. But again, if he loses, how much state does he have this next matchup? If he wins, how much state he has you having this next matchup? I don't really know. So good stuff, Jose.

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Okay. As I said, sure. Over skateboarding. Oh, okay. Wholesome. Um, so Julian and Jalen want to do a game of skate, which is a horse, but skateboarding. And I ran into Jalen in Salt Lake City. He was like doing guest fighter stuff.

And I was like, you guys are going to play skate? He's like, hey, man, if he wants it, he can get it. And I was like, I'm, wherever it is, wherever this exists, I'm going to be there and I'm going to film it. So Julian Orozah has more important things to do. He has to prepare for a game of skate that I'm going to instigate. He has better, he has more, bigger battles to fight. Yes. because Jalen, no one is beating Jalen Turner skateboarding in all of MMA.

That's never going to happen. You're calling it. He's the pound pound best. Jalen Turner, if Jailen Turner took a year, two years off or a year off from MMA and folks on skating, he could go pro. This is a. Jalen Turner is so good at skateboarding. This is, I have not up to date on this.

The last thing I remember was Gregor Gillespie's a good fisherman or something. That's where I am on. Jailen Turner is a better skateboarder than Gregor Gleger Glessby. be a fishing. Okay. All right. This is some, this is some type of way. Dylan Turner is a better skateboarder than steeply is a firefighter. I don't know what makes a good.

That seems unlikely. So I don't know. I don't know what makes a good fisherman either. So I can't even begin to make this comparison. I'm just, I'm just talking. Let's go to the listener picks here. We've got, go to my emails first, Jose. We've got Tristan Gordet, a friend of most of our programming.

What's up, Tristan? Billy Q. versus Joanson Brito, Diego Lopez versus David Onama, Ludovit Klein versus Matush Rabetsky and Asu Almabaya versus Alessandro Costa. So thank you, Tristan, for filling in some of those. I don't think, I think Lopez is the only guy really talked about.

Oh, Klein. We taught me. Casey Carpenter, hope you enjoyed your vacation. I did, Casey. Thank you. Love your background in the YouTube videos, just showing how you got the dog in you. I don't know if that's what it shows.

It shows me in there with the dogs. it doesn't show the dog in me. If you could pick an animal to be inside you, like I, instead of saying, because we all know we hate the phrase, I got the dog in me. When's the last time you used that phrase uniron? You're with me, right?

We just need to stop using that, right? Yeah, that's such a stupid phrase. No, I don't, the thing is, I don't even think inherently it's a bad phrase. I think it's like a cool. You think it's just overplayed? Yeah, I think the first time I heard it was like, yeah, that's a cool thing to say.

What a cool way to put it. I laughed at the means, that the means really funny. And holy crap, it got played out in about two weeks. And I'm like, that's enough. We have to be better than this. What would you replace Got the Dog and Me? Nothing.

Can we just say, does everything have to be so colorful? I know that's our job. I know we're in the media. I know we do some broadcasting. We have to use colorful language. Could we just say someone's tough? Someone's durable. I guess durable is also overplayed.

I guess there's a lot of ways to see someone's tough. And we have to keep up. All right. Based off of that then, we're replacing dog with whooping crane. Whipping crane. Yeah, because in the 1940s, they were on the verge of extinction, extinction, and battled back, and now they are fully populated and no longer on the verge of extinction. If there's a definition of tough, it's the whooping crane.

There was almost none left in the world, and now they're everywhere. All right, I'm still going to say, even the Indu part I'm over. Like, can it just be like, I'm going to say something like, that guy battled back like the whooping crane, something like that. Yeah, I like, or has the potential to be better. Because you know why? Because with that, people go, why the whoop and crane? And then you explain it and then they learn something. You're teaching while also using fight talk.

The most important thing in M&A. And six months from now, some Schmo, not the Schmo, some Schmoe, is going to be using that phrase and not crediting you. And so, oh, I don't know how it came to me. I just, you know. Because it'll just then eventually just be in the zeitgeist. It'll be a guy's a guy's trying to pick up a girl. A girl's trying to pick up a guy. Guys trying to pick up a guy, whatever flavor you want.

And they're going to be like, did you know the word? Whiff and Crane was almost extinct in the 1940s. It would be like, wow, that's so interesting. And then they're getting married and having kids. Yeah. Oh, that escalated. Casey says, love watching Get Into It with Jed on the Post Fight Show. It's all love, baby.

It's all love. Safe travels back to Mike. I'm sure he'll be glad to get away from the idiotic Dallas sports fans. Whoa, I should not have read that out. What's that about? Have you been to Dallas? Have I been to Dallas? Have I been to Dallas?

Have I been to Dallas? the whole the the the the the the spot of Amanda Nunes versus Juliana Pena too of of you were there Miochukes versus junior dos Santos Frankie Edgar Yayae Rodriguez you were there for Aaron Woodley versus Darren Till yeah I've been Dallas uh the fans are fine right well I can't stand any fan from Texas in any okay that's uh Brian Tucker big Dallas man oh I've the Dallas Mavericks are turds. Okay, all right.

Let's move on. San Hagan will fight morale for the vacant title. I'm sure the USC wasn't thrilled by the fight. I don't have any idea who else they could put up in the vacant title fight. If Sterling doesn't move up, doesn't move up, San Hagan could rematch him. They're not going to do that right away. But after he gets the easy win, oh, wow. I think Sterling will move up and hopefully get both for a max.

Oh, easy win over Mallee, I guess he means not San Hagen. I think Yon getting the next title fight against the winner of the 292 co-main. Hold on. Jan Shownan. Okay, right. So why not Dern versus Suarez? I don't think they want to do that to McKenzie Duren. They like her.

They won't book that fight, would they, Jose? Unless Mark Zuckerberg wants it. That's true. McKinney Dern is favorite fighter. Lopez, Billy Q, Jacoby versus Kirolov, Phillips versus Ricky Simone. Why does that fight?

Sounds so weird to me. Durdon versus Bruno Silva. It's being shown on topology.com. What? Hold on, hold on. Kyle Phillips looks good. Kylea Phillips is a very good fighter. He is.

He's trained with... He's a mallee's buddy, right? He's a mallee's buddy, right? They're not like fully teammates, but they came up together. Yeah. Him and Casey Canney. Why is Cody Durdon versus Bruno Silva on Tapology? That's not a thing.

That can't be happening. Then Cody fought like less than 24. He fought 12 hours ago. But that's what I'm saying. I think this has been on, and I don't think this is new, I think this has been on Tapology for a while. So I'm not sure why that happened. that's very strange.

Was he not supposed to, was this, was this Jake Hadley fight? No, he wasn't late notice. Oh, he was. I'm sorry, this was, I'm dumb. Jay Cadley, yes, okay. So I assume the Bruno Silva fight is off because Jay Cadley was supposed to fight to gear Ula and Beck off. Cody Duren was a place for him.

So that fight is presumably off, though. I guess we don't know in the O.C. We don't know for sure. If Cody Durdon wants to make that date, I'm sure he would still do it. I'm sure we'd love to get another paycheck so quickly. So, yeah, that's a weird situation. If that's not having Darden versus Macheliel.

Yeah, Machel, where are you? Come back. Machelel is a fight, doesn't he? Did I make that up? Does he? I don't think you did, but I feel like it's been a while since we've seen him. I definitely made that up. I'm thinking of Tim Elliott.

My topology fingers are... Oh, no, he's supposed to fight David Dvorak. He was a 209. Didn't happen. I was there. You're everywhere. You're everywhere, and producer E.K.C. Liden, not producing this show today, is from everywhere.

That's a whole other discussion. Every time I ask Casey, I get like, oh, yeah, I've lived in Wisconsin. I'm like, what? When did you live in Wisconsin? I'm like, yeah, I'm from there. I'm like, no, you're from Houston. He's like, no, I'm also from Wisconsin. It's like, what?

From like Mississippi. Yes. California. This is a whole other thing. I can't go down this well right now. Okay, going to the Twitter machine. And yes, we're called Twitter.com. The Twitter.com machine.

Yeah. Yeah. Legally, I can still say that. Sure can. Four Corner Sports. I don't want to reread. Again, Corey, Sanhagan versus Marab, a very popular pick. so we're not going to keep rereading that one over and over again.

Rob Font versus Song Yadong, rebook it. Was that supposed to happen and didn't happen? Say it again? Rob Font versus Song Yadon. Was that supposed to be in Boston? Oh, I see it. So did Rob just get moved to this fight? They just took them out of it.

Oh, Song withdrew. Okay. So then Rob Palm was free. All right, yeah. Who am I reading there? Four Corner Sports. Great suggestion there. I thought they just pulled font from the card.

I don't remember. I don't know. Dustin Jacoby versus. Oh yeah, maybe that's why it says with true. Yeah, that's why we have. Anyway, Dustin Jacoby, Dominic Reyes? I don't want to do that to Dom. Yeah, I don't like where that one goes.

Diego Lopez versus Ryan Hall. I heard Ryan Hall was there. Does he train with Sandhager? That's interesting. I heard Ryan Hall was in the building. Sean Woodson versus Nate Landre. There you go, four corners. I forgot Ryan Hall was a fighter.

Don't say. I mean, he's more than a fighter, though. Oh, right? We would agree on that. No, I mean, I'm on record that I've never been overly impressed with Ryan Hall as an MMA fire. You're going to edit this. I was going to say, I'm going to edit this out, but I think you're handing a lot of the production. So you're going to edit that out.

No, I'm actually going to put it at the beginning. Okay. That's going to be the stinger. That's going to be to listen to the rest of it. Like, oh, people are going to be like, oh, my God, he's off the rails. The hell did we get to this? I got to listen to this whole show. Yeah.

Matt Kennedy coming in. He wants Otno points, future Otno points for saying Tanner Bowes, would be a PFL champion in 2024. Okay. PFL, I like Tanner Bozer. I'm not sure he would win the the FFL tournament.

That's tough, man. Whenever someone asked me about the PFL, I always just, I go, just go tweet at AK. Like, he's kind of our.

You should. I care of, he's kind of our PFL time. Shout out. Shout us to Hesu's Panato for making the final. After missing weight, I don't,

I don't, I don't, I don't hate the product of PFL at all. Not at all. Not at all. I don't, like, as a stat,

guy, I don't, people complain about like the crowded screen. I don't really, I don't really care. I think they're honestly just looking for things to complain about because it's not the UFC. I, I don't hate the product. PFL should introduce the punch clock to follow MLB's pitch clock because I've quite enjoyed the MLB. I don't want to send you on a whole baseball talk.

I know that could be another two hour long conversation, but I like the pitch clock. And they said the punch clock where if you don't punch every, you know, 15 seconds, If you don't throw a punch or a kick every 15 seconds. Or a take down. Or to go for a take down. You're going for submission attempt. That's fun. That'd be fun.

Yeah, some sort of penalty. John Ray, sending to me and Mike. Good thing he sent to both of us because, like, you know, Mike is not on here. He says, just throw Almond by him in there with Hand Hadley. He's also confused about Durdly being scheduled. Durdling, excuse Durdley. Durdens being scheduled. That's a Harry Potter character.

That's Dudley. Klein versus Pueis, Phillips versus Chris Gutierrez. Suarez Asparza, too. Sparza is happily enjoying being a mom right now and has no urge to get trucked by Tatiana Sparaz again, I assure you. Diaz, oh God, fights for Dias. Dias versus Poirier, finally somewhere, I guess. Interest in that, Jose?

If they come, if, if, if they come, if, if they come back to UFC, that's the fight. That is the fight to make. Unless they do the Connor three route, if Connor ever fights again, that's the only other fight I would accept. The Porier fight or the Conor fight? We have Francesco who always introduces himself as our big Italian fan.

He's now you are, he is now your big Italian fan. I'm a quarter Italian. You're a quarter Italian. Stop it. My mom is Mexican. My dad is Irish Italian. I need, we need to have you and Casey do a competition to who has the more storied lineage because you guys are just from and, you know.

Yeah, both of my great grandparents came from everywhere. Both of my great grandparents came through Ellis Island. and they were both deaf and they were all dead and three of my four grandparents great grandparents were deaf through Ellis Island you guys got to write up

we should write a book yeah uh francescoe also like suraise versus derr guys are not guys there's not I don't think I do that's darned jacobobbos if he beats uh don jung in his upcoming fights that's interesting kickboxer

or his kickboxer oldberg did not fight in glory though right that he's not a glory kickboxer he's a former he's a kickboxer not a glory kickboxer so that'd be interesting uh wild cards Carlson Harris chaos Williams

another caller phillips Ricky Simone. Okay, so I'm guys kind of glossing over here, guys. German, Corey for the vacant title of Aljo, vacates Lopez versus Pat Sabatini, Al-Bai of Nessimento. Everyone again asking about the dirt in Bruno Silafite. Guys, I assume that's not going to happen.

Could be wrong. Tocke Gerting Jensen, what's up? Toc says, I hate being like this, AK. I really do. Sanhagen versus Song Yodong. Sorry, Sanhagan. A win in this way just doesn't do it. Font versus Umar.

Again, sorry, bro. Suarez versus Jan. Makes too much sense. have both just beaten Jessica Andrade Andrage obvious number one contender fight. Yeah, I don't know if we discussed that but I think you and me are thinking they don't make Yon do that.

Like they just have to make that. Are there any picks for Billy Q? Yeah, there's a few. So I'll throw one out here from Tocke. Billy Q. Doho Choi. I think that's a super fun one. Ooh, especially if they do that Asian card at the end of the year?

There you go. That's a scrap. I like that for a lot. Jake Paul versus Mike Perry, MMA or boxing? No. Neither? No interest.

I'm not interested in anything Jake Paul does. But if Jake Paul fights someone, it's probably Tommy or KSI or Nate and MMA. You know, I feel the same about Mike Perry. So we're somewhat in agreement here. Bear O'Reilly. It's been a while, what the kids call a minute. Nice start to the season for Celtic. That's right.

Celtic FC, the only Celtic team that matters in the world with a 4-2 victory over Ross County and the Scottish Premier League. won. We got another, we got a lot more trophies coming. Very excited about that. Woodson, Ricardo Hamos, Charles Jodain winner. Wow. A banger no matter what. I thought, like, Charles Jardin was going to be my pick from Sean Woodson before that fight was kind of like that was kind of what I, my gut response was, but if Charles has, like Charles has the fight, I don't know, because Charles has been fighting for a long time. And I don't think Charles would take that fight. Not that he's afraid of

Sean Woodson, but I just think he's like, at the point of scurrie, he's like, I want to fight up. Yeah. And Sean Woodson is fun, but I think Charles Dordane has taken fun fights and it's not worked out for him. Yeah. I think he's going to be a little more realistic. Especially if he wins, because I would have Ricardo Hamos probably ranked higher than Sean Woodson. So if he beats Hamos, it would really be fighting back at that point.

Yeah. And I think I love Sean Woodson, Charles Dordane. I just don't. Charles deserves a little higher rank. Yeah, that could happen someday, but it's 100%. 100%. Maybe just not next year. Corintillo, Jack Shore.

Shores out for a while recovering from surgery. That's good as I want. That's good. That's good as I want Billy Q to take a break as he is always in wars. Winner of this gets a top 15 ranking or at least an opponent. So good luck with him. Carlson Harris, Alex Marano. Harris slowly lost his shopcott and has looked good in every other fight.

He's ready for the top 15 gatekeeper test against the Great White. I think that rhymed. Very well done. I'm impressive. Tanner Bozer. Tanner Bozer versus the Rock. For what? If Boecer wins, the Rock has to pay him money for wearing his shoes.

I don't know why he singled out. Did he talk shit on his shoes? I don't know. Barry, I apologize if we're missing some Tanner Bozer quote. Or maybe Bozer is just the right size for it. Maybe just like size-wise on the card. That's the guy who would make sense. Jacobi versus Alexander of Rockich.

Rockich must be near a comeback on the top of the division is mostly booked. It must be a solid test. Well, not feeling too hot about it. I think if Ratchik was just in a number one contender fight and before his knee blew out, I would like to give in someone in the top five right out of the gate. Oh, oh, you don't think rockets should have to fight back.

That's possible. This is fair. Also, like, a knee injury, you shouldn't, like, there's some light heavyweight fights seem to play out. Like, you got Span and Smith. You got Johnny Walker's fighting, Ancalaev and Abu Dhabi.

Eventually, that light heavyweight title will be announced between Alex and Yeri. I think Ratchew should take literally, until the last minute of the 11th hour to like let all these play out. Don't book a fight now because all of a sudden

by the time you fight the division is just wonky again. And we got to bury another Tatiana versus McKenzie Dern. A lot of people want this. Maybe I think I don't know. The only reason I mean that say is because I don't think Tautiana

should deserve to fight someone above her but there's none. But meritocracy-wise, that's literally only fight that makes sense. And name value. McKinsey Dern's super popular fighter. Sanjayano Suarez is up there, but McKenzie Duren is really, really popular. And I'm sure Suarez would love to test herself in that matchup.

So thank you, Barry. Thank you for those picks. Chris Martin, last one on Twitter. I don't think there's a lot new here. Another PFL recommendation for Boz. What is it about Bozer? That's Crean's a Belfl. Is this contract over?

Maybe. Yeah, Tanner Bozer versus Martin Hamlet in the first round of the next PFL season. So specific. Well done, Chris. Anything else new here? Yeah, Tanner Bozer is a free agent. Okay. Well, there you go.

Hey, so good job with the people. August 5th was the final fight of his contract. We kind of talked about this, but Chris just wants to know, do you think Corey hurt his title shot chances with that performance? I don't know if we got that specific with it. What was your thoughts on that? It didn't help, but I don't think it hurt. Like, now there's not a clamoring.

Like, the fact that this is a question answers it, again, like, let's see who wins. Let's see who wins. I think if Al Jermaine wins, I think Corey will be in one half of the title shot, title fight. If O'Malley and Cheeto win, that's the fight they're going to probably make. Okay. We got more Tanner Bozer-Fraise Talk to. We'll wrap up on Instagram here. Robbie Ryan, he likes Bozer versus Dova.

He just wanted me to say this and pronounce this on the show. Dovletzan Yag Shimuradov. That you're going to get me, Robbie? You think I'm not a Dovletzadzan, Yajumirav, Stan. Come on now. I've practiced that name a lot of times. and then ask if PFL were to acquire Belator, do you think they'd keep the two brands and keep PFL the tournament league

and make Belator the Super Fight Division or would they just mash to hold them together as PFL? They would mash. I think they would like to keep their, well, no, the Superfight Division would work perfectly because PFL has a super, do they call it Super Fight League? Super Fight League, their pay-per-view division? Superfight League, the Indian promotion?

No, not the esteemed SFL. the you know the Kayla Harrison Francis Ghanu I don't remember what it's exactly called but there is something but those are like Francis and Jake Paul and Minesirano just signed for it on the MMA hour which you can watch Mondays

and Wednesdays live on the MMA fighting YouTube page yeah probably I don't remember what the exact title is called it would make it and PFL Bellator runs tournaments too so the brands like I think Belator would have to stop running tournaments that's the only thing

Oh God I can't do another seasonal Bellator again it just brings me too much PTSD. That's and it's coming back. All right. We got another belt, especially, and they're going to come back.

They have a lot of bumps in the road this year. It's, you know, thankfully they signed Francis. That's all people are talking about, not really how wonky this year's tournaments were. But I don't know. Shout us to us at Bres.

Brandon Haley, also likes Carlyfell's Chris Gutierrez, Diego Lopez, Jonathan Pierce. Whoa, that's a, that's a tough fight. That's a super tough fight.

That's a tough fight. And Billy Q versus Lauren Murphy, both in November, at MSG for electric pay-per-view prelims. Dak Mitch Oh, Dak Mitch just wanted to ask if I was okay after being

bullied by Shaheen and Jed. Yeah, I'm fine. It's all loved. What do they bully you over? Listen, don't watch the Post-Fi show. It got ugly. It got very ugly and it got very loud. With Jed and Sean? I don't want to go down this road again. But I was just saying

if he were to fight an MMA, Jake Paul, that it doesn't have to be like the best options are clearly Nate Diaz and Connor back. There's no arguing that. But that's not the only thing that I was saying he could find if he wants to win an MMA, I think he can find someone with a name that he can actually beat.

I unfortunately could not come up with a name of the time so that did hurt my argument. But I do feel like there's someone out there with a name. Well, see, the problem with that, AK, is you're making sense. And that's not allowed on post shows with Shagin and Jett. Yeah, it was, I was attacked. I was attacked. Get out of here.

The greatest respect for both those guys. I get what they were trying to say. They didn't get what I was trying to say. That's the problem. I get what they were trying to say. Tino Alvarez, not a lot new here. Tanner Bozer, Ehor, Potaria. You are in lockstep with some of these.

Are you sure you don't want to do the show more often? Because Carlson Harris, Gabriel Bonfim, Sean Woodson versus Melsic Bogdasari. I like that. Oh, man, that would be a barn, burner as well. That would they would just be mean mugging the whole time. That'd be I just want to nasty too. Uh, Marcus who sends a nice little scrap spreadsheet. That's a spreadsheet. Nice little graphic here. Uh, San Hagan, Marab, Rob Fons,

song, your dong. Another Jacoby Rock Determination, another Lopez Ryan Hall recommendation. And how about Ludovic Klein versus Gudam Kutatslazze? I am going to, I am going to wrap here. We are going to, not long, but I do want to end on a first timer. What is up Kyle? I see a Canadian flag in there. What's up Kyle? Oh yes. Hello,

fellow Canadian. First time auto picks, long time listener. Welcome to the party pal, first of all. I rushed through these, so hopefully no do-do. Alma Baia versus T.

J. Vergara, Woodson versus David Onama. Durdon versus Sumadairji in parentheses. We love controversy. Let's not go there. I've already moved on

from those Cody Durdon comments. I'd rather not think about them. Billy Q and Nate the Train. Which means Dirtle. Dirtle. Yeah, Dirtle. Dudley. You just combine Dudley Durdly.

Dudley-Dardly, yeah. Carlson Harris versus Muslim Salikov, Karlo-Fillips, Sayy, Nermagammedov, Ludov, Ludovic Klein, Joe Salaki. Bozer versus more can't until it gets better for a fighter with 30-plus fights. And I'm from Edmonton, so it hurts to say this. Oh, that's harsh.

Tough love. Diego Lopez versus the damage, Darren Elkins. Jacoby versus Metafield, Suarez versus the Rose Philho loser. That's a flyweight. Kyle. Kyle, come on, man. And Sandman versus Umar.

So there go. Anyways, thank you, Kyle. Even those sprinkling of doo-doo in there. Thank you for those picks. And thank you, Jose,

for joining us this week. You did an amazing job. Always do. Representing New England's in Mike's absence. You know, I don't care if people say about your New England boys. You guys are, you guys can be my wingman anytime.

And to be, for the record, I agree with a lot of what people say about New England boys. You are proud Arizona. in now. Phoenician. That's what they call us. What do you call?

I live in Phoenix, so we're Phoenicians. Oh, you are Phoenician. You are, which I've heard it's like 50 degrees Celsius down there right now. I don't know what Celsius is because that's Tom Fulery. 200 degrees Fahrenheit. Close. Close. Well, to put it into perspective, the low this week will be 107.

And the high on Tuesday, so next Tuesday. So let's say we're recording this Sunday So nine days from now It will be a hundred and twenty degrees That sounds fun And I will not be here I will be in Rhode Island

Actually I'll be in Boston For the next UFC pay-per-view That's right And that's two weeks away But next week August 12th we have We're back at the UFC Apex Everyone's favorite spot

We've got Vicente Lucke Facing Raphael dos Anios welterweight main event. Khalil Roundtree facing Christakis. Chris Dachas finally getting to make that drop down to 205. We'll see how that goes.

That is not an easy fight for Chris Daukas at all. Super dangerous fight. We have a strawweight belt between Polyana Viana and Yasmin Lucindo. Let's make sure I got this schedule right here. I'm reading off of Wikipedia, which is always a little,

always a dangerous proposition. Here we go. Now I've got the ESPN. Cubs Swanson, Hakim Dawadu, which apparently, according to ESPN, is the co-main event. AJ Dobson, Tefon, and Chukwe, Josh Frammed, Jamie Pickett. So I'm sure that these have been canceled.

And then on the prelands, we've got JP Bayes, Marcus McGee, Landauvinata, Mike Breeden. I think that one is not happening. Sorry, that I think has been canceled. Francis Marshall, Isaac Dolgarian, Josh Bresian, Martin Boudai, Jacqueline Amarine, Montserrat, Conejo, Desmond, Desmond, Damon Blackshear, Brady, Heastin. Nope, that's also been canceled. Juliana Miller Luana Sento

has not been canceled So there you go I mean not a Terrence McKinny It looks like I stepped in to fight McBride Oh on like super short notice Yeah I think that that was announced like two days ago

Yeah Terence is playing with a lot of fire With his career I know I get what he's trying to do But hey maybe he wins And we get to talk about him on to the next one I'm not sure He's on that uh I mean he's training with Kevin Holland now

Are you surprised I'm not surprised If he's taking career tips from him This is what you do but boy, he's fighting a lot of tough competition on not a lot of notice. He just seems to be jumping right in there. So anyway, that is next week's card.

Thank you, Jose. I can't wait to have you back again. We will have presumably have Mike back next week. But if we don't and you're filling in again, what a pleasure that would be. I'm like the Brock Lesnarvance, the next one. Coming in now and then, and it's a big deal. Any part, well, let me also say

I had to bribe Jose into getting on the show. I promised I will make a denoche. a donation to comic books for kids and you guys should all do that too that is www.combooks for kids, F-O-R, not the number four, comicbooks for kids.org slash donate. So always a good cause. Thank you, Jose, for coming on. Yes, I'll let you have the last word here before I sign us out. Donate to comic books for kids.

It's important. If you have comic books, you don't listen. If you don't want anymore, you can also donate those actual physical comic books or obviously buy all their stuff because it goes to kids with cancer who need to get distracted with the enchantment of the mind, which is infinitely more important than anything we have talked about on this podcast, which I think AK would agree with. I agree 100%. So yeah, go donate to kids with cancer.

It is not that hard and it will make you feel good. Thanks again, Jose. Guys, go donate. Go do something nice. Go enjoy your day. Go think positive thoughts. and we will this this has been how does mike sign off again thank you for this has been on to the next one the podcast the podcast the podcast