MMA Fighting - On To the Next One | Matches To Make After UFC Orlando

Episode Date: December 4, 2022

Stephen Thompson looked fantastic in his return to the octagon as he stopped Kevin Holland in the fourth round via TKO. Does "Wonderboy" have one last title run left in him, and if so, what's the next... step he needs to take to get there? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee attempt to answer that question from a matchmaking perspective following Thompson's main event victory at UFC Orlando this past Saturday. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for Rafael dos Anjos after his dominant submission win over Bryan Barberena in the co-main event, Matheus Nicolau following his stoppage of Matt Schnell on the final fight of his contract, Sergei Pavlovich after his eye-opening finish of Tai Tuivasa, along with fellow victors Roman Dolidze, Eryk Anders, and more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:29 It's a thought-provoking sci-fi journey where identity, memory, and morality collide. Robert J. Sawyer does it again with this much-anticipated sequel that leaves you asking, what are you willing to lose to save the ones you love? The downloaded two, Ghosts in the Machine, available now only from Audible. Well, hello there, everybody, and welcome to a brand new edition of On to the Next One. Yes, we had a week off, but the MMA media matchmaking clowns have returned to our heads. Following UFC Orlando, the final UFC fight night card at an arena not named the UFC Apex of 2022. We have one more pay-per-view next week, one more Apex show the following week.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Then the year is a wrap for the ultimate fighting championship. I am Mike Hacken. Joining me as always, he's many positive and wonderful adjectives, but he's the best friend to us all, the most important one. Alexander Kaylee. Hello, AK. I missed you. my friend. Mike, my best friend, hello.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Yes, you missed me because I was not watching Saturday's card. I took a whole day off free of MMA. Just nothing major. Just some friends and family time, just some personal time, catching up and that sort of thing, which I recommend to all MMA fans. This was probably not a great weekend to skip because I thought the card looked really good.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I had said on the preview show, I thought this was like a 9.1, 9.2 on the gymnastics scale, which for a fight night is really strong, especially compared to some of the fight night efforts we've had recently. Again, I did not watch the card. I've caught a few highlights here and there, but Mike, from what I see, it looks like it was pretty decent. It lived, it probably was up in that nine range, for a fight night.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Look over that nine range, right, as far as entertainment value goes. It was pretty good. Prelims were a little slow, and the UFC, like, tried to get right after it, and then it just was so slow that we had to carry over the featured prelim on to the main cards. We end up having a seven-fight main card that started at 10 p.m. Eastern. And the Wonder Boy Kevin Holland fight, it was like 1 a.m. It was, Ariel tweeted it, Ariel put it out best. This was like a throwback to the FS1 days where they just had like super long main cards and they just went on forever. Luckily, all the main card fights got
Starting point is 00:04:23 stopped. They were all finishes. Some of them were late. Some of them were quick. And it was enjoyable, but it was just so many fights. If this card had two less fights, it would have been closer to a 10, honestly. First of all, I did call multiple times, whatever shows, but I did before. I think I said at the Wayans show, and I think I said on the previous show,
Starting point is 00:04:42 that I was like, I don't know how they were, originally there was supposed to be Cortez and Hebas too. And I was like, I don't think they're going to fit nine freeland fights into a three-hour window. And I said, there's a lot of potential for decisions here. I think Cortez and Hebas might have gone into a decision as well. And yeah, we got, what, five decisions, which is unsurprising, give me some of the Angela Hill, Clay Gwita, Michael Johnson.
Starting point is 00:05:05 These are fighters who, they pretty often go to decisions. So I wasn't surprised when over. Again, good thing for them, it doesn't matter. It's all on ESPN, ESPN, ESPN, plus anyway. It just kind of, I guess, changes the order of how they handle the main card broadcast, like how they run some promos and things like that. But other than that, it wasn't a big deal, but I did predict that it would run over. I just didn't see how they were going to do it.
Starting point is 00:05:25 So one thing, after a fight night card like this and where things stand in a lot of respects across multiple divisions and in the UFC in general after some news has dropped over the last couple days, I'm not sure how you felt about it. I know you didn't watch it live, but obviously you kept up what was going on. In terms of putting together matchups, this was one of the toughest ones I can remember from a fight night card. Like usually there might be like a paper view or two where I have to like really think about stuff
Starting point is 00:05:59 oftentimes with these fight night cards because they're just kind of globed together we're just chucking darts anyways and then the storyline kind of takes us on one of two paths but where we're at coming out of this one without knowing a lot of things this was one of the toughest ones I could remember in the history of doing the show at least for me.
Starting point is 00:06:19 What say you? I didn't have much of a hard time with it. maybe that'll say how I'm wondering if I My thing is I'm wondering if I May have picked names that I've already picked recently That may have been an issue But I didn't think it was too difficult
Starting point is 00:06:34 Like I mean I think for our main event Just for order of elimination I think it came up with a pretty easy pick But otherwise Oh I will say later I did have to resort to a lot of Facing the winner of such and such upcoming fights So there is some of that
Starting point is 00:06:49 I mean there was a little bit wishy-washiness on my part I wasn't quite able to like stamp down exactly who should be next. But no, overall, I wasn't too stressed about it, my best friend. Well, I'm very intrigued by all of this. Yeah, maybe I was just overthinking things, but we'll see how this all plays out. Let's start with the aforementioned main event. Let's start with the ageless Stephen Wonderboy Thompson, apparently, because this dude, what a damn fight, what a damn performance. This is just fun all around, like everything about it. I expected sort of a chess matchy, intriguing fight.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Didn't really know what to expect. I expected either Kevin Hall, it was either going to be a typical Stephen Wonderboy Thompson decision win, or it was going to be one of those sad moments where we watched Kevin Holland knock Wonderboy out. But this just exceeded all expectations. Everything about this fight goes out and stops Kevin Holland after four rounds. There's a corner stoppage before the fifth. Love the decision by Bob Perez.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Kevin clearly had enough Wonderboy with a I'm not going to say a vintage performance because I think this is actually better than a vintage Wonderboy performance there's a thrilling fight probably one of the best 10, 12 fights of the year the dude ain't done A.K.
Starting point is 00:08:04 He ain't done. What's next? Let me say first, I am never picking against Wonderboy again when he's facing a striker. It's just all in the lead up to this fight, Mike, I said, I was breaking down like, man, Stephen Thompson, like, he only loses to grapplers, or at least fighters who are well-rounded and capable of grappling,
Starting point is 00:08:23 Bala Muhammad, of course, a great example. And then Gilbert Burns, right? Guys who could strike as well, but they need to take a fight to the ground. They can absolutely impose their will and do that. So, but then we talked about Anthony Pettis. Yes, that's one striker who did beat him, but it was, again, he got caught. He got caught. He caught Wonderboy, it happens.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And then there's the Daryntil fight, which is pretty controversial. A lot of people thought Thompson won that fight, and Daryntill is a lot bigger than him. So that was the only decision. That's the only decision, Darren Till, it's the only decision he's lost to a striker. And I knew all this, and I repeated all this multiple times in the lead up to Saturday's main event. And I still picked Kevin Holland. I was still, I've been, again, I have been very ageist lately.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I've picked against, you know, and sometimes vindicated, you know, Frankie Edgar, Marmarais, things like that. Sometimes not. Hafele San Sao, and now Stephen Wonderboy Thompson, a great performance. Again, big cage, very conducive to his stuff. against a guy who, as we learned after, and could have kind of assumed going into the fight, there was like a gentleman's agreement not to put any emphasis on anything besides striking.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I know Kevin Holland grappled a bit later in the fight, which was smart because, you know, at that point, he's just trying to win. But yeah, there was some of an agreement to strike. And if you're doing that with Wonderboy, you're really putting yourself at a disadvantage. So I will not pick, unless it's, I'm trying to look at the top of the rankings here, unless it's like some, I don't know if there's anyone above him who's like primarily a striker? I don't think it knows anyone in the top seven. That's actually primarily a striker right now.
Starting point is 00:09:52 So yeah, but I want to match him up with another striker. I'm with him. Let's just give him fun fights. If he slides back into a title shot at some point, great. That's what he wants. If it never happens, then let's at least have him go out fighting opponents with like styles and that's appealing to the fans. So I had to go with. So I don't know if you had trouble with this one, Mike. This is pretty easy. I had to go with DeMolli D'Or, Michelle Pereira. I mean, I just think at that fight, never happens. It just be super sad. I think it's a great style matchup, personality matchup. That's another fight night headliner, or you can throw it on a pay-per-view somewhere. It's a cool fight. So I'm down with him and Demolador.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I love the pick. I pick that one for Demolador after his last fight. This is what we're doing. We have to do this. And they didn't go in that direction. They did something completely different, and they gave him Kevin Holland. So it's obviously a two-horse race. After a fight like this, I feel like the UFC, I'm not going to say they're going to full throttle push him towards a title fight, but I think they're going to put him at least on a path where after like a win or two, we're talking about it again. And here's where things get interesting when I talk about the theme of tough picks. Because De Maldor's great pick, it's not the easy pick for me. I have an easy pick. The problem is
Starting point is 00:11:19 another broken hand for Stephen Thompson. Another one. It happens in every fight. He landed that left hand a thousand times, so I'm not really surprised. And when Stephen Thompson is broken hands, this isn't like, I'm out for three or four months. It's like I'm out for a year. So I'm concerned about that. But who knows? Maybe Wonderboy, the ageless man, he's actually going back into his youthfulness and his recovery. So if for some reason, if some way he can get back in the first half of 2023, as much as I love the pehata fight, there's only one fight for me that makes sense. And it's the rematch with Jorge Mazadol because it accomplishes so much for the UFC.
Starting point is 00:12:06 It keeps one of these longtime veterans going towards a title shot. Hate that sentence or not, ladies and gentlemen, but it's true. this is a true sentence, whether you like it or not. And one is likely just straight done chasing a title maybe forever. It just makes sense. And I think just the fan of me, I just want to see the versions of these two fighters in 2022-22-23, do it again.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Because the first fight happened in 2017. This is before Mazdaal went on the reality show and became straight Jesus and got the whole persona, all of that. And Wonderboy's just always been kind of the same guy. these guys sort of encircling each other. They're both been sort of respectfully calling each other out. This is the one I want. And guess what? If Mazadol wins and Leon Edwards beats Kamara Usman, guess what fight the UFC is going to make, my friends? We're getting the Mazadol, challenging Leon Edwards, whether you like it or not. Might be wishful thinking, but if I had the pencil,
Starting point is 00:13:04 I am doing my damnedest to make this fight happen. And also, for the, because Mazadol, Mazelal isn't hasn't he's on the three-fights skid the two losses at Usman and Colby and people have just kind of turned on him and it's more so not because of the performances it's because of like the interviews and some of the things he's saying he ain't gonna like go all out there
Starting point is 00:13:29 and just rip on Stephen Thompson like this is gonna be like a respectful build like he's gonna say like he'll probably say like I'm gonna knock this dude out I'm a posterizing or something like that but it's gonna be a very respectful build on both sides and maybe we get to see kind of a softer side of Jorge Mazadal to get him back in the good graces of the fans. So I don't think you could go wrong here. The one concern is just how long
Starting point is 00:13:53 is Wonderboy going to be out for? How bad is this hand injury? So the BMF coming for the NMF title is what you're saying? And vice versa, baby. And vice versa. That's true. If Wonderboy, yeah. Yeah. When I first saw this come up, I'm sorry, I didn't get a chance to watch most of the previous show, but I think I saw Pillar React. I assume you had brought this up on Sorry, on the post-fight show, right, Mike? You'd already brought out the possibility of it. Yeah, maybe that out of the press conference, one of the two. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And at first I was like, why, you know, why this fight happened? Like I said, we saw them fight pretty one-sided. Though, again, like you said, this is five years ago. They're definitely different fighters now. It is one of those rematches. I would think it might not have a different result, but it might play out at least differently, maybe even more competitive outing from Mazvedal.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And I'm just looking back now at Mazvedal, where he was when he fought Wonderball. I'm just looking at the record right now. And I forgot like he wasn't like we had kind of written him off because he he lost that fight before that he had lost a pretty like competitive fight with Damian Maya. It was a split decision. I think I scored it for Maya. It was a good fight. It was one of those like, oh, how much grappling, how much, sorry, how effective was like Maya's grappling versus what Mazvedal was able to do, you know, when the fight was on the feet. It was one of those fights. I remember there were people after saying like like, like, oh, well, Masvidol did all the damage. Why didn't Masvidal win that fight? Like yes, he got controlled for, you know, on the ground for much of it. So. So he had that two-fight losing streak, and it was kind of that two-fight losing streak that had a lot of us kind of writing Jorge off. It was kind of like, yeah, he's a good fighter, but he's not a, he can't beat a top-five guy in Maya.
Starting point is 00:15:20 He can't beat a top-10 guy on Stephen Thompson. But this was during a stretch of he had beaten Ross Pearson, Jake Ellenberger, Donald Saroni, so kind of the next tier of guys, or a couple tiers below, then lost these two fights, then knocks out Daringale and then goes on, you know, the Street Jesus run. So, yeah, it's like he wasn't like a bum the first time they fought. He was actually in a pretty good, on a pretty good run himself. So, yeah, seeing him fight again now. Jorge's even more famous.
Starting point is 00:15:49 You know, Thompson shows, shown he still got it. I'm not against it. I'm not against it. Mike, didn't love it at first. I could definitely see it be made. And as you said, it's a bit of a, you know, paving the road to the Edwards-Mazvedal fight, which we just feel like has to happen under some circumstances. Otherwise, it's one of the most wasted opportunities in recent combat sports history.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Yeah. I mean, Henry Sehuda walked into a title fight. Maybe Mazdaal could do so as well. All Mazdaal needs one win, and I think he can get there. He would obviously need Edwards to keep the belt against Usman. And then this Wonderboy story, if you can get him to a title shot at some point before his career is over, I think the UFC would probably look at that direction because how could you not want to promote that guy? So positive.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And who knows? Maybe he would be a great BMF champion. He admitted spent a couple of days in the seventh. Ellie, you know, a little skinny-dipping incident, spent a weekend in jail, might be a, maybe he's more BMF than we think. So great win for Wonder Boy, Thompson. With Amex Platinum, $400 in annual credits for travel and dining, means you not only satisfy your travel bug, but your taste buds too.
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Starting point is 00:17:27 Brian Barbarina to know, honestly, I don't want this to sound like Brian Barbarina is not good, because he is good and he's exciting. This fight went exactly the way I thought I was going to go. This is one-way traffic. Barberie just had nothing for RDA. This was a masterpiece from the former lightweight champion, and then he goes on the mic and he calls O'Connor McGregor.
Starting point is 00:17:46 A lot of people didn't like this call it. I love the call-up. Unfortunately, I just don't see that one happening anytime soon. And again, we're on this road to, what the hell do we do with this guy? Because he could fight at 55, he could fight at 70. He's not fighting for a title in either division, probably ever. he wants fun fights and big names
Starting point is 00:18:08 and there's just not a lot to check off all those boxes that he already hasn't fought so this one I took a long time on I landed on Jim Miller AK and don't you and I can't for all this is like oh about to do to Mike no you're not about to do to me because this fight can be a 55 and 70 Miller's fighting Mowgli Benitez in February
Starting point is 00:18:31 I know but I feel confident Jim Miller will win that fight and if slash when he does, let's just give him RDA because I can't believe they've never fought each other. Not only that, this is a classic AK stat, I don't even think they've been booked to fight each other ever, ever, throughout their entire runs. How is this possible? This is honestly a really tough choice. I mean, you could do like a Chandler kind of fight, but not sure where Chandler's at. I think there's like bigger, like I think that Connor fight is more in play for Chandler than this.
Starting point is 00:19:05 for RDA, but RDA RDA just seems like a lot of fun. We might have to wait a little bit to get there, but I went with that one. You can't really go wrong with RDA, but that's what I landed on. My best friend, that's a beautiful pick. That's an elegant pick. We don't see you use that word a lot. That's an elegant pick.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I was sticking strictly at 170. Of course, he has a lot of options with 1-2-5. Jim Miller would be awesome. Just the combined fights experience, just the classiness of the fight would just be so good. I think RDA would be like a pretty, at least like a minus 200, minus 250 favor in that. But I don't know, Jim Miller has fought some tough people and proven me wrong. So I have no problem with that. Yeah. Whatever happened. Even if he loses to Moog, well, maybe he has to win.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I don't know. Even if he loses, I feel like that's a magical. I think you do it if he loses too. Yeah. I'm in for one 70. And yeah, I kind of went with what you're saying. He's just looking for like good fights, fun fights, looking to keep those checks coming in. I imagine RDI's given his tenure with the promotion, being a former champion. He's probably making good show money, good win money. He just wants to go in there again, keep doubling up on those checks. So I think Gunner Nelson, I think Gunner Nelson be a fun fight. Just a cool stylistic matchup.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Someone who's a little more well-rounded than Barbarina. Because, yeah, I think a lot of us picked RDA to win, whether by decision or as he did by submission. He's just a master of mixing the martial arts. As deplorable as I find that to be, Mike, he mixes the martial arts. When he does it, It's quite lovely, I will say. If you're going to mix some martial arts, please do it like Hafeld dosanos.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Yeah, because the man's a fantastic boxer, elite jiu-jitsu. Good wrestler, too. He knows that it gave people down. He's such a fun guy to watch. So, yeah, I don't know. Got an interesting style matchup. Keep those checks coming. And depending how that goes, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Maybe we talk about even bigger matchups. But yeah, like you said, can't really go wrong with him. Mateus Nicolao needed a finish last night. He needed to get a finish. and did he ever get it? Bald Matt Schnell, unfortunately, will not be a mythical MMA creature, but Pateas Nicolao,
Starting point is 00:21:09 he might be a mythical creature. Although, as he put it, he's now an unemployed fighter, A.K., he fought out his deal, did so with some vigor and some gusto and some grace. Again, another tough one, because with this flyweight title picture
Starting point is 00:21:26 kind of potentially up in the air right now with everything going on. Like, I don't know what it's going to look like. I don't know who's fighting, who's going to end up fighting who in January. Like, I literally have no idea how this is all going to play out. And Nicolao might just become a very interesting piece of this puzzle. So again, maybe overthinking, but perhaps there's reason to overthink. But what would you like to see next for Nicolao?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Obviously, if he gets himself a new contract, which I would be stunned if he doesn't. First, regarding Matt Schnell, we salute you for shaving your hair. shaving much of your body to make the weight that's fantastic. However, Mike, that was now 0 and 2. UFC fighters, 0 and 2 this year, you know, undergoing extreme shaving to make weight. Shana Young also chopped off what looked to be like 10 pounds of hair before her fight with Miranda Maver. And still had a lot of hair left. I remember we saw her hair she cut off.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And I got so excited. I was like, oh, bald Shana Young? And then she showed up. She had so much, she had almost like past her ears still. And I'm like, how much hair did she have before? It was like, it was like when Topanga got a haircut. Yeah, it's still just a lot of hair. She cut off all that hair, but she still had hair like to her shoulders.
Starting point is 00:22:34 She's fine. She had a lot of it. Either way, hair cutting to make weight 0 and 2 so far. I don't know if anyone else is going to do it before the end of the year. And she lost a pretty lopside decision to Miranda Maverick, too. So maybe it's not the magical advantage that I was hoping it would be. But yeah, so for Nicolao, a guy who I'm super high on, who I wasn't sure if he'd able to get that finish that he needed, as you mentioned. he's a pretty safe, like, methodical fighter.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Can be exciting. I think he has, like, really sharp striking. I think when he gets going, he's pretty fun to watch. But for the most part, he fights smart. He controls the distance. Well-rounded guy. Mixed the martial arts really well. But I guess Matchnell was the right guy,
Starting point is 00:23:14 because Matt Chanel is pretty good reputation for being a super exciting flyweight fighter. Did this hit, did this hit a fly? Was this another flyweight under? You damn right it was, I, Kay. Wow, 144 of round two. So just, like, by like, just, less than a minute.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Less than a... Wow. I gotta stop doubting these. I know. I heard Jed talking... I heard Jed talking about it. And I was like, I think this one might break it. Because Nicola is a pretty decision...
Starting point is 00:23:40 Decision frequent guy. There it. There it is. I think Matt Chanel's fight should always be flyweight under. I think that's my... Definitely, Matt Chanel is involved. But yeah, great finish. Yeah, I don't think he gets a title shot next.
Starting point is 00:23:54 He's certainly done more than enough to earn it. He's one of those guys, so I feel like if he sat on his ass long enough and certain people fall out, certain people are unavailable, certain fights turn out a certain way, he, like, maybe he could just, like, walk into it. But if the case, that doesn't happen,
Starting point is 00:24:10 and he does have to fight again. He doesn't fight super frequently. I think it'll be at least six months before he'll see him fight again. And in that time, hopefully Brandon Royval, wrist injury will have cleared up. I think that's a great fight for both guys. And then whoever wins that one should definitely get a title fight.
Starting point is 00:24:25 So fingers crossed, one of these that either Brandon Roy Val or Matthias Nicolao gets a shot in in 2023, whether it's to fighting each other or fighting someone else. Both guys are worthy. Yeah. I mean, Royval's wrist injury, we just don't know how long he's going to go for. I don't think it's going to be that long. So, like, if they're going to pinpoint a specific matchup for like the first quarter of
Starting point is 00:24:50 23, it's probably that one. But again, it's almost impossible to matchmake here, not just for him, for anybody sort of in that top six at 125 right now, because with the whole James Krause situation and everything going on with Glory MMA and all that stuff and this new sort of edicts the UFC has put down, this ultimatum, if you will, for glory fighters, like is Brandon Moreno going to fight
Starting point is 00:25:14 Davis and Figurato in January? Is this going to happen? Because if not, will it be Pantosia fighting Figgi for the title? Because he told our own Guillermo, he's going to be the backup fighter. I honestly don't know what to do. So I think Royval is a good answer,
Starting point is 00:25:32 but I just don't know. It's too wild right now. So here's what I'm going to go. I'm going to go completely different from you. You're going to get not no point. I'm not for my answer. So my chief answer is just I'm not taking any points. I'm just going to give you advice.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Get a new deal and stay ready. If Alex Perez somehow can't make it to UFC 284, because this man has had a hard time finding his way into an octagon over the last couple of years. Mateus Nicola, when that phone rings to get a nice flight to beautiful Perth Western Australia, you jump right on there, you get yourself a seat, you fly in, and you go fight Kai Kar, France. You go in there and get it done. So sign a new deal, get your money, son, get those extra Buccourinis, and keep that phone not on silent because it's going to ring.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Something weird is going to happen, and you just got to say yes. and say pay me more money and I'll do it. They will and you will. And big opportunity will come your way. So yeah, it could be Royval, but I think it's going to be something else. I think he's going to have to answer a call at some point. So again, maybe I'm overthinking, but that's her, Matt. That'd be amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I just hope we're talking about Mattis, Nicolaalov more in 2023. I'm a fan of the guy. Tough Brazil. You've been higher on him for a while. Tough Brazil never die, man. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. Yeah, he's really good.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And he needed that performance. And thank you, man. match now. I think you're the right kind to get him over. Speaking of getting over and being very scary, Sergey Pavilich might be the scariest man in the UFC's heavyweight division, maybe even more than Francinezano after seeing reactions from fans and different people after watching what he did to the poor face of Tai Tui Vasa, just hamburger meat. Lasted at a minute, dropped him a ton. Hurt Ty with like the first strike he threw. I think he hurt Ty just breathing across the octagon.
Starting point is 00:27:25 because that's how scary this dude is. And Bam Bam, just so tough, kept throwing, was missing wildly, just full on defensive mode. Pavlovich has made every single strike count. And there's two things that came to mind when this one was over, A.K. One, Pavlovich is a player and a guy who will fight for a title at some point. And two, and I don't know if this is true or not, but this is the first thing that popped into my mind. Poor Curtis Blades. Poor Curtis Blades.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Because this guy is just, he's done nothing wrong. He's done nothing wrong to put himself in this position where he's at right now. But he just got blasted out of that position, in my opinion, because I think Sergey Pavich just leaped over Curtis Blades in my eyes. What makes this tough, though, my best friend, is he said he needs to take some time off. And I don't know what that means. Is this like, I need to take nine months off? I need to take a year off.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I need to get with my team. Like, what does this mean? So that's my hang-up in the matchmaking department, but I assume he understands the importance of being ready, especially with everything up in the air right now at heavyweight too. So if he's ready to fight in March or April, if they book John Jones coming back to challenge France and Ghana for the heavyweight title and the UFC in France come to terms,
Starting point is 00:28:45 I'm ready to give him Cyril Ghan, okay? Sierra Gond tweeted out, let's go in March. I want to be part of this dance, whatever. If either a little before, during that card or slightly after that title fight happens and Cyril Gahn can fight Sergey Pavlovich, I'm all in, man. I want to see what that looks like. It seems to be a very popular pick. But if he wants to sit out to the middle of next year, he might find himself at a pretty tough spot. So I'll play the hopeful game and say positive things are going to happen.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And we're going to get Sergey Pavlovich versus Cyril Gond. What say you? Were you saying it was it's Blades who said that he's taking time off or, or Pablo? Pavlovich, Pavlovich said that. Oh, interesting. He goes, yeah, I'm going to take time off and get with my team and figure out what's next. But I don't know what that means. Yeah, that could mean.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah, exactly. Okay. This one I did have a lot of trouble with. First of all, emotionally, seeing, you know, I had picked Pavlovich by first round knockout. I didn't feel good about it. And my predictions, I said, my heart says Tai Tuvasa. Like, I'm not ready for the good times to stop rolling. But my gut was saying Pavlovich, and I'm like, I'm going with my gut.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Palovic knocks him out. And yeah, I picked first round Kio for Pavlovich and I'm not celebrating that. I just, it's hard to watch. It's just a really tough matchup for Thai. I just think swangin and banging is a great style. It works against a lot of people. It works against, especially against other people who aren't known to be one punch, like, you know, hammer throwers. Again, look at, look at Derek Lewis and Volkov, for example. Volkov's not like a generally not a one-hit killer. If you last long enough, swangin and banging will work. If you're against someone else who's like an explosive finisher, swanging and bang, it isn't always going to go great. So it did not go ties away this time.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Again, Sergei is a machine. Just that classic, that classic Evondrago prototype, you know, so this was tough, though. Yeah, where do you go now? You mentioned all those variables. For instance, Ghanu, John Jones, Curtis, Blades, Stelgan. I want to believe the Blades Gone fight will still happen. I'm pretty stuck on that one. I imagine some fans are as well, though maybe not after last night.
Starting point is 00:30:50 It's just the fight to make. I mean, both Blades and God deserve that kind of big fight. But, yeah, like, Blades, poor guy, just other people's performances just keep kind of overshadowing him. So I went with something random. This is definitely a magic wand. Because the name I picked, I don't know why he would fight Dirty Pahlivich. There's zero reason. But he, Sergey should get Stepe.
Starting point is 00:31:13 He should get Stepe. Like, if he were allowed to pick any opponent that he could fight, he should pick Steepa and he should fight Steepa. Stepe is, again, he's a guy who can take all the time off he wants. If that was, like, floated in his direction, like, not send a contract, but kind of like, you know, casually, verbally floated in his direction, I'm sure he'd tell his management, no, I'm good. I don't really, he probably doesn't, he probably barely knows who this guy is, and he's like, why would I fight this guy? He's, all I sees his record. He's killing people left and right. Yeah, maybe I could beat him, but what do I gain from beating Sergei Pavlovich as opposed to what Sergey Pavlovich would gain for beating me?
Starting point is 00:31:47 and that would be a very fair point if that was his thinking. So I don't think it happens, but if I'm waving, I had to wave a magic wand here and just say, Francis Ogun who fights John Jones, Celagon fights Curtis Blades, Sergei gets another top five, gets what's left with the top five, which is Dipey Miochich. And that's how, that would be ideally how it would go. But there's heavy weight right now and nothing is, nothing is locked in. Yeah. What's weird about the situation is I think Curtis Blades got leaped over in this current top four discussion.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Sure, sure. but if they can't come to terms with Ngano, Curtis Blades will probably be the first phone call to fight John Jones. It's very weird how this all works. Very. It's very strange, but everything's in sort of shambles right now. Roman DeLite just put the middleweight division in some shambles, AK. This guy, depending on how you define breakout fighter of the year,
Starting point is 00:32:38 if you're just looking at it from kind of the Hamzat Shamiyev compared to Kevin Hollen, type situation where Alex Pereira probably leans more like Kevin Hahn like we knew who this guy was we're just waiting for him to break out and he did so in a big way or Roman Deleidezay kind of like
Starting point is 00:32:58 Hamzaa Chamaip where this dude just came out of freaking nowhere if you told like okay if I came on this show if I did our prediction show and they were like Mike give out your bold prediction and I said hey here's my bold prediction Roman DeLizze is going to be a top 10 middleweight
Starting point is 00:33:12 by the end of 2022 people would have asked for my resignation from MMAfighting.com. Oh. They would have absolutely asked for my resignation. Not saying that Roman couldn't get there at some point, but to go from where he was at to actually being a top 10 guy at the end of the year, no one called this. No one called this.
Starting point is 00:33:33 He might actually be the breakout fight of the year, AK. 3-0, 3 finishes. This one on short notice against Jack Herbanson. He will be in the MMA fighting global rankings. come in the next cycle. He will be number eight in the UFC middleweight rankings on Tuesday. That finish was incredible. Hermanson literally could do nothing.
Starting point is 00:33:53 He couldn't do anything. The calf slicer almost got put in the regal stretch position and then just gets punched over and over again. Calls out Hamza Atchamai, a plus night for Roman DeLizze. What do we do now? I'm looking at Romans. You're right.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I had sort of forgotten how some of his fights before this run had gone. the John Allen's fight was forgettable. The Trevin Jow's fight was so bad. I remember it was so horrible. And he lost that fight, that's right. And then the decision went over Stropoli. Now, three straight finishes, three straight performance of the night's short notice against Jack Hermanson. Really smart jumping on that opportunity.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Well, I didn't think it was that smart at first because I had picked Hermanson. So I thought Roman might be running into a bit of trouble here. But this is how you make the most of an opportunity, man, because he told him. stole that thunder. Like he said, now is taking a top 10 spot. And he just got this reputation now as an exciting finisher. And that's, that's what you want. When you're on ESPN, that's, that's, that's the most you can get. That's making the most of your TV time. Okay, this is where I start going into winners and start sort of looking at upcoming fights. He is in the top 10, but there are some names around his UFC experience level who I think are a bit higher than him. One of them, Nasrudeen, Imevov,
Starting point is 00:35:11 Imovov is fighting Calvin Gaslam, January 14th. I think either one would be fine. I do want to see him fight Imovov. I think that's the cooler matchup. But even if Gaslum, who's going to be a big under, I don't know if the odds are out, I assume, is a big underdog to Imov. If he somehow guts it out, that would be a great fight for Delizze, another veteran name. I don't think there's any downside to him fighting either of these guys.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Even if he lost to Imov, I think he could be fine. Like I said, I'mavaugh is pretty well regarded as a guy who's like a future title contender. Deleetze before yesterday wasn't really. clearly maybe he's there now, but let's put him up against the guy who's kind of got a little more established hype and see how he fares. So I'm essentially saying DeLice versus Imovov, but again, with respect to Kalam Gasselam, he does have to beat him first. So I'll just say the, I'm not making a prediction to a win. I'm saying the winner of that fight and Mr. Deleesey. AK, we just saw the river on a hypothetical game of Texas Hold'em. And you made a great bet.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I made a spectacular bet. I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it and I'm thinking about it. And I'm actually going to raise you, A.K. I'm raising. I'm coming over the top. Because as much as I like that pick, I want to see more. I want to see something bigger for this guy. It's Marvin Vittori. That's my pick. Roman DeLiezae versus Marvin Vittori. Because that is the that is the question we are all going to ask ourselves. Is this guy Roman DeLieze really good at fighting? or is he a guy who could be the middle-weight champion of the world? I need to know. I need to know if we are just, I want to know what this run means.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Are we running towards the belts? Because I feel like if a guy like Roman, if you're going to get him to the belt, you've got to do it now. You've got to push him towards it now because this division's crazy. Especially if Adasania, if they rematch Adasatia versus Pereira and Adasania wins back the belt, that I feel like the road's a little bit longer. But with Pereira is the champion,
Starting point is 00:37:09 this is an interesting fight. And I want to see if this is just like one of those incredible runs where it's just out of nowhere, guy becomes a world champion. So I think it's a fight that he could get. He's number eight. Vittori's coming off a couple of losses. He got dominated by Robert Whitaker.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Votori needs a step back in competition a little bit. Deleezzi probably needs a step up in competition. Roman deserves this fight. You know, he might not win. win this fight. He may not even be a top five guy forever, but Roman DeLidezay might make... Roman DeLizze might make the shortlist for male fighter of the year, A.K.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Like, I don't think he's going to be in the top five, but before we actually get into the voting, I think when we put off the list of like, here's the guys we get used from, I think Roman's going to be one of those guys. Like, if there's a list of 15, 20 guys, he's one of them. 100%. 3 and 0, 3 finishes.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Top 10. B knocks off a tap 10. guy, that's it. That's successful campaign. That's successful 12-month campaign. Again, highlight reel, knocking off a notable name. Yeah, I have no problem with it. I mean, I'd be surprised if he was left off
Starting point is 00:38:16 people's year endless at this point. Again, sneaking in that last fight really, again, he had a good year already. Sneaking in that last fight really caps it off. It's that real cherry on the Sunday. I was taken it back, Mike, by the Vittori pick. That's pretty bold.
Starting point is 00:38:33 That's a bold pick. But it is, if you're Votori, he should have been on Twitter like last night, like tweeting out like, oh, this Roman deletes a guy's good, but is he really top 10? Like some light trash talk, you know? Because if you were at Tori,
Starting point is 00:38:46 this is where you want to be now. You've had a title fight. You've fought, you know, Israel-Etasonia two times. So you've, I mean, you only found it for the title once,
Starting point is 00:38:54 but, you know, there's that, that, I don't know if he'll ever fight easy again. So he might not have to, like, I don't know if that's, that's obviously fight he wants to be once again,
Starting point is 00:39:02 but he might not have to do that to get, if he ever wants to fight with Alex Padera. it might be a different path to Padetta, one that maybe goes through, like you said, another kind of up-and-comer in Delizzei. So when you've lost to like some of the top five guys, this is a great way to take someone else's steam. Because, you know, like, yeah, Delitzé, three-fight, win streak. Again, one of the, we'll say one of the hottest runs of 2022. If you're Vittoran, you kick off 2023 by beating Dele-zee, guess what? Now you've taken all that
Starting point is 00:39:28 momentum. It's yours again. Now you can go back to calling for another big fight. Yeah, I'd like to see how Vittori. his team handle that because that would be a really, really smart, kind of sneaky, kind of sneaky way of staying relevant. I mean, you just have to ask yourself one question, Marvin. Do you want to fight Andre Munez, or do you want to fight Roman Deleizze? Do you want to fight Roman DeLizze or do you want to fight Drick's Duplice? Make a choice because it's probably where you're going, one of those three guys. And I feel like stylistically leads is probably your best bet, but it's still a really tough fight. Not a lot of easy options for a lot, for anybody.
Starting point is 00:40:05 and middle weight, including, you boy, Eric Anders. Flashes back to a little bit of the aggressive version of Eric Anders. The man that flew up the rankings early on, he just beat the hell out of poor Kyle Dachas, who probably needs to take a long vacation away from the Octagon. I think he came back probably way too soon coming off of the Roman Delizze finish.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Just two brutal knockout losses in a row. But big win for Eric Anders, needed it a lot, stopped the two-fights skid. Here's what I'm going with, A.K. Let's go storyline here. Recent storyline. Andreo Petrovsky beat him in a grappling match earlier this year
Starting point is 00:40:47 for, what, Fury grappling? Well, we just run that one back in the octagon. I think that makes plenty of sense. Let's do it. What do you got? Wow. Yeah, I just saw that. I just made note of that.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Okay, I wonder if they would be interested in doing that. Again, I'm going with the, well, first, let me say about Eric Anders. In my predictions, I've said something like, this guy has always had all the tools, rarely puts together. I mean, obviously, Saturday night was a night where he did put it together. I don't think I can pick an Eric Andrews fight to save my life. I think, like, I picked correctly the I did think I'd pick him to lose to Park. I definitely picked him to lose to Moonez. Other than that, before that, I'm sure it was a crapshoot of like 50-50, getting it right, getting it wrong. I just never know which Eric Andrews is going to show up, but good for him.
Starting point is 00:41:32 a nice guy and good to see him get a win over a Kyle Dacus. I had picked Dacus, obviously, which I'm saying why I can't pick correctly. I'm going with another, I need to see a winner of an upcoming fight. This fight coming up next week. UFC 282. Chris Curtis, Joaquin Buckley winner. Both those guys will probably make a campaign for like a top 10 opponent afterwards, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I mean, they might be worthy of it. But as we've kind of said, the top 10 of middleweight is a little bit difficult to crack, which is why we gave Leite's so much credit for taking the Hermanson fight. So they could ask for it. They'd call for it. I don't know if they get a top 10 opponent. Anders has certainly earned a step up in competition, just not all the way into the top 10.
Starting point is 00:42:14 So Curtis and walking Buckley, somewhere in the top 20, top 25. I say Anders has some mix it up with them before any of those three names can get a top 15, top 10 opponent. Yep. Good one for your boy. Phil Rowe, hell of a comeback. He stopped Nico Price in the third.
Starting point is 00:42:30 He was about to get 10-8 in that. round almost finished but you know what that fight wasn't supposed to be a main card fight and you know how we feel about gentlemen who miss weight and there's a new caveat to this rule if you are asked about your weight miss and then you shrug it off like the person asking you the question is an idiot in this case Jose Young's trying to just ask him in a question he's just turning, basically verbally turning his back on the birthday boy, Jose Young's. No, I didn't see this. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Well, it's because we didn't put the video live because all we wanted the answer was to the wait miss. Why did you miss weight? What happened? And Phil just no-sells Jose, poor Jose. And to Jose's credit, the man just kept asking, he kept asking, he kept asking. And by the way, Phil, let me just tell you something. You want to know where Jose got that information from that you walked out to your own song?
Starting point is 00:43:23 This guy right here. And I told him that. and I sent Jose that song, so he got to listen to it. And he asked you that first question. You were so happy. He buttered you up. He buttered you up. And then when he asked the real question, the one we all wanted the answer to.
Starting point is 00:43:38 You know Saldem. You know Saldem. So I have no loyalty for you, Phil Rowe. You missed weight. Squad decision. We ain't matchmaking for you, Philly. We move on to the wild card round. You okay with this AK?
Starting point is 00:43:51 Oh, I'm 100%. I was okay with it before I knew about the snubbing. I did not know that he had denied Jose an answer to a very real and important question. Is this not the second time? Is this not the same time Phil Roe has missed me? And by the same amount, two and a half pounds. Yep. Orion Cozy.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Yep. Mm. Got to fix that. I'm half, I'm half joking about that little rant that I went on. I thought Phil looked great. I think he's got to figure this weight stuff out, though. You got to figure out this way. Because he's not a middleweight.
Starting point is 00:44:25 He's not a middleweight. Like I look at him like, he's not a middleweight. But he's such a tall. I don't know if he's a welterweight either. It's so weird. 175 would actually be perfect for him. I know. This is why 175 should exist for guys like Phil Rowe.
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Starting point is 00:45:36 Winners find fabulous for less. But now we're going to go to the wild card where I will select one fight. Now, Phil, we might pick you for the wild card. He is eligible. He is eligible. We can pick any fighter that we have not match made for yet. And we can do it now. So where did you land with AK?
Starting point is 00:45:52 I got to go with JSP, Jonathan Pierce. very impressed, very impressed by him. Again, Darren Elkins, I, you know, I said I didn't think he'd be able to put Darren Elkins away, but I thought he'd also put on a good performance. So I was happy to hear that that was the case. He's, and I was like, when I was thinking about it, I was like, Johnlin Piers was doing pretty well, right? And he's on a five-fight win streak, undefeated since dropping back down to 1.45. There was that loss to Joe Lausanne in his UFC debut and no shame in losing to J-Lo.
Starting point is 00:46:22 and also, again, at a different weight class. So, 145. He's got wins over Kaka Makkah, that's a good one. Makwana Mirkani, Darren Elkins. He's not a nice run. He's probably overdue for a step-up. I shouldn't say that. Darren Elkins was the step-up.
Starting point is 00:46:38 He still has to, you know, battle a little bit more. Featherweight is so deep. So I'm going to give him a step up. But again, one more time, I need to see the winner of an upcoming fight. In this case, the Juliana Rosa Alex Casaris fight coming up December 17th. I think, again, like I said with Curtis and Buckley, I'm sure if Eroso won that fight, he'd want a little bit more of a step-up in competition.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Same with Casares. Casas just been around for so long. You know, he probably thinks he's worthy of top-15, top-10 guy. I'm not convinced for either of them. I'm not convinced for John and the Pierce shit either. So keep all three these guys in the mix. One of those guys wins. Oh, sorry, whoever emerges victorious from those three names.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Then in 20-23, we're talking top-15, you know, giving them a ranked opponent. I like that pick. Good performance of JSP. Did what he needed to do. I hate to be this guy, but I don't want to watch Darren Elkins fight anymore. That broke my heart. And it almost, to me, JSP looks so good in that fight. It almost, watching Darren Elkins fight and just watching it all play out the way that it did,
Starting point is 00:47:42 it almost took away from the performance because it just made me feel so terrible. It was just so tough to watch. And I just, I'm sorry, Darren. I don't want to see you take any more down. image. I don't want to see it. This fight was not close for one second. And the way Darren has gotten himself over with just his grit and his toughness, like the fans get behind him and they get into it and he fires them up and they love him. But he just gets thumped. He got thumped on Saturday. This was bad. It could have been back-to-back 10-8 rounds. Like if they scored that fight 30-25,
Starting point is 00:48:18 I wouldn't have any issue with that whatsoever. It's just bad. I don't want to see it anymore. I don't want to see it anymore. Can we say that, though, on the prelims, that even on the whole card, the more experience, you know, people, fighters who are up there and experience,
Starting point is 00:48:34 did pretty well overall. Yeah, I picked Michael Johnson to win and he did. Yeah, a lot of us did. A lot of us said, like, that's a great, like people, I don't know what the odds were. I imagine slightly in Jackeesie's favor. I'd have to take a look at it. Or maybe he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:48:47 No, he was. St. Oh, wow. Wow. Minus 3.30. I'm just thinking of topology. Okay, that's a huge favorite. But Jed had said it in his gambling preview.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I had said it before. I'm like, this is a really good matchup for Johnson because Jakeasy, the one we've seen lately, does a lot of wrestling, wins his fights that way. You can't really dominate Michael Johnson like that unless you're like Habib or something. He's pretty good at, I'm trying to some other names too, but for the most part, pretty good at not getting dominated in the ground. And he's always been a good striker. So we said that was a good matchup.
Starting point is 00:49:16 But yeah, Michael Johnson, Angela Hill, Clay Guida, winning a split. Not, I'm on time to understand, not particularly controversial. I saw him made decisions. Every media member scored for Guida, so I don't know if that was a, if that split was a bad call. And then, of course, Stephen Thompson, the main event and Haifa Aldo Zangis in the Co-Mane. So a lot of these fighters were like 20 to 30 UFC fights under their belt did really well, again, except for Darren Elkins. So hopefully for Darren, there's either, like you said, Mike, maybe thoughts of retirement, or at least gets a bit of rest before coming back
Starting point is 00:49:50 and maybe having a plan to kind of end his career on a nice run and maybe no more living up to his nickname so much. Yeah, maybe Damien Maia can become a featherweight. You could fight him because I'm okay with that. Damien just takes it down and chokes him, or whoever this person is, I'm cool with that. I just don't want to see Darren Alkins get punched ever again. It's just too sad.
Starting point is 00:50:11 The Tom Levy versus Kanye West is probably the easiest pick. I'm not going there, obviously. I'm going with the woman who kicked off the card. Yasmin, you're a guy. What a performance against Estella Nunes. I loved everything about this fight. One, because the finish was incredible. Yasen looked great.
Starting point is 00:50:30 The crowd was behind her. They got something with her. But the thing I like the most about is that Estella Nunes cracked her in the first round and dropped her and had her in some trouble and she overcame it, battled back, stole the momentum, and it got her out of there. It was a hell of performance. I wanted to give her a step up. I'm not going to go crazy with this
Starting point is 00:50:50 because I think you have something. She's 23. She's got a long way to go. Vanessa DiMopoulos, okay? Yeah. Let's do Vanessa DeMopolis. I think that's perfect. DeMopoulos won three fights in a row.
Starting point is 00:51:02 This is a pretty quality step up. I'm in. Let's go that route. And we'll see how she does. A loss doesn't hurt her. I feel like Yargi wins that fight anyways. So let's go that route. I think that's.
Starting point is 00:51:15 from going. Yeah, and Demo herself is in that range where we're like, you know, she's getting some intrigues. She's getting some buzz. She got some good gimmicks. Great appearance in the M.A. Hour. It's got a wind streak going. But we still don't know, I think, with her, is she actually someone who could be a top 15 fighter? I've heard a lot of doubts. I've heard a lot of, again, a lot of people saying, oh, you know, it's cute that she has that, that, the backstory and then jumping
Starting point is 00:51:36 to the arms after. But, you know, and she's on a way, she's winning. Is she someone who could, you know, really fight with like the, the Angela Hills, the Tisha Torres, is the Michelle Waters, is the Michelle Waters, The McKenzie, you know, could she go, and I don't know. I honestly don't know. She is a bit of a late starter to MMA. So you do think there's maybe some sort of athleticism gap there that she might not overcome. But you put her in there with a Yasmin Haurigi and like I said, howdy he's a blue chipper.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And yeah, and she needs to be tested as well. So I don't know again, beating Vanessa Mopoulos rockets her up the rankings, but at this stage your U.C. career, it's just a nice test. And if she goes 3 and O, then we're really talking about, like, oh, how do we plan for this? for this fighter to someday get a title shot. Do we have any extracurriculars? Do we have anybody bragging about successful picks or anything like that? You know, I'll have to go, like, again, I didn't have a chance really to look over a lot of the submissions we got on here.
Starting point is 00:52:29 But I will shout out, I think it was the Watts Riot on Twitter who reminded Jed and I, because Jed and I were talking about RDA on the preview show, or was the Wands. Any way, one of the shows, and just kind of talking about like, oh, what could we do with him? You know, if he beats, why is he fighting Brian Barberina? What's his plan? and we're like, what's he going to do, like, stay at 170, fight like a Neil Magny. And then we'd forgotten, and I had even said something like, why would he fight Neil Magny? Like, that's a tougher matchup than Brian Barberina.
Starting point is 00:52:52 And I had totally forgotten. RDA had already pretty handily taken care of Neil Magne when they fought. When was this a while ago? You know, September 2017, UFC 215. Again, one of those rematches is like, yeah, you could book it. I don't think it would go that differently. I think we know Magny has some grappling deficiencies. We know how good RDA is with grappling and submissions.
Starting point is 00:53:13 So it might look a little different, but I'm not that interested in it. So yeah, I totally forgot that fight happened. So shout us to the Watts Riot on Twitter for just giving us a little nudge, a little nudge reminding us that happened. Do you want to disclose? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Guys, hopefully you guys out there can get these otno points by having the own, being the only person to pick a fight.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I don't think that's going to happen this week. I think a lot of people were in lockstep just from what I was seeing. please guys pay attention matching fighters in different weight classes guys who have fought already recently like at least just throw a two or mention a rematch so i know you know that they fought don't be like me and jed with with rda and magni notable injury that's going to keep them out for like a year or longer or just you know that we could be you know pay attention to that stuff guys fighters who are released hard to keep track of fighter could already be booked usually easy to keep track of uh fighters who are teammates etc just guys just just take a little kid
Starting point is 00:54:10 air with your picks, please. Your pictures maybe do do, and we don't want to read it. A little additional rule this week, of course, in the wake of recent events. Maybe we're going to stay away from booking James Cruss-affiliated fighters for now, because we don't know. That situation is still developing, and we don't know if fighters who train under him will even be allowed to compete at UFC events in the near future. I mean, sorry, I should say we know they won't be allowed to compete there in the near
Starting point is 00:54:35 future. But further down the road, we also don't know. So just, you know, just keep you careful with that, guys. Yeah, it's, it's very, very strange. We saw reports that Jeff Molina is no longer fighting Jimmy Flick. Yes. I do have a source that told me that that is accurate information. And I see a lot of fighters sort of calling out Flick for the comeback.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I just saw Muhammad Mahayev call him out, which, golly, sign me the hell up for that fight. That'd be just ridiculous. and I'm just kind of Julian Marquez supposed to fight December 17th against Duran win, so we don't know what's going on there. Obviously, Brandon Moreno is a big name and there's many, many others, so we'll see what happens. Let's get into the picks.
Starting point is 00:55:20 We'll start with Robbie Ryan. Good day, you bloke, here we go. Phil Rowe, Eliza Zaleski, Eric Anders versus Julian Marquez, as we just mentioned, winner-lose against Geron-Win. Deliz versus the loser of Jared Canaaner
Starting point is 00:55:33 and for some reason I forgot this fight was even happening, but it is happening, December 17th the main event. Pavich Blades, Tuvasa Tommy Aspinall when Aspinall is ready to come back. I don't mind that one. Nicolao versus the Carr-France-Perez winner
Starting point is 00:55:49 for the next title shot after Pantosia. RDA versus an Irishman, not McNuggets, but Ian Gary. Wow. I saw this a couple of times. RDA versus Ian Gary, I have no interest in this. I don't like that for Ian Gary at all.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I'm not saying he couldn't win it, but boy, I mean, that's, I don't like that at all. No, don't do that. Barberina versus the Lealich, Wonderboy versus the Neil Rachmanoff winner. I mean, we just saw Jeff Neal.
Starting point is 00:56:19 We saw him fight Jeff Neal not long ago. We've already played that one, and I have no interest in watching Wonderboy fight Shopcott Rockbadoff at any point. And now that it's Wonderboy. Now that is Wonderboy, I'll tell you. Unless Rock Bono has the title,
Starting point is 00:56:33 and Wonder Boy somehow gets there, that's the only time that that fight is acceptable. Right. And then Kevin Holland versus Jorge Mazdal. Shout out to the Australian Kangaroos winning the Rugby League World Cup, beating Samoa in the final. And hey, making the knockout round of the World Cup. That's a pretty big deal.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Shout us to Aaron Mouy of Celtic FC, by the way. One of my beloved Celtics in the World Cup. Well, no longer in the World Cup. Oh, boy. Buckle up, ladies and gentlemen. It's Dad Jackson time. Oh, my gosh. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Let's see who we got here. Sorry. He avoided a permanent ban last time. Yeah. He's still on probation, but we'll see how he does here. Yasmin Yergi versus Lupi Gaudinez. I don't know how I feel about that. No. No, I don't know. That's it. That's all I was saying. There's better matchups for Lupi right now.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Yeah, and for Yasmin. They're both Mexican fighters. I don't know if we want to put them together. No, I don't love it. Francis Marshall versus Stephen Peterson. JSP versus Cub Swanson if he goes back to 145, if not give him Mike Trisano. Michael Johnson versus Matt Fravola. I wouldn't mind a rematch with Balarchy if he heals up soon either.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Guida versus Natan Levy. A little lazy I know. Phil Roe versus Muslim Salikoff. I actually kind of like that one. Guida versus Natan Levy would be so random. That's like every Clayweed a fight. these days. I guess so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Eric Anders, Kyle Barallio, DeLizze Fluffy Hernandez. I don't love this one because, you're, Hey, Roman, you're a top 10 UFC middleweight, so let's throw you in there
Starting point is 00:58:18 with Anthony Fluffy Hernandez, who's a fine fighter, but he's like the 30th ranked fine fighter. That's just, yeah, that's unfair. Come on. Pavlovich, Curtis Blades, Nikolaoamemmaeuf.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Interesting. Oh, wow. We're doing that to Nicolau. Or vice versa. I feel like that's unfair. I would watch it. I would watch it. I would watch it.
Starting point is 00:58:39 If Nicolao's not going to get a guy like Royval, McCoyev's probably the best option for him, right? It's probably next. Yeah, probably next. RDA versus Randy Brown. Kind of love the McGregor fight, even though it would happen. Warner Boy, Michelle Paheda.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Kevin Holland versus Chaos Williams. Dad Jackson. I'm not ready to take you fully up probation, but you're good. You're good. No banning, no nothing like that. Chris London. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Holland versus Rock Monoff, Neil Luser, RDA versus Phil Rowe. Although that might be some ample punishment. And it would kind of fit RDAs, like we said, somewhat like aimless matchmaking. Again, Jed kept questioning, why is he fighting Brian Barbarina? Like as far as rankings purposes, and I'm like, it doesn't have any rankings purposes. It's just, it is just staying busy, winnable fight, collecting paychecks. Phil Rowe would be right in that. If you're Phil Rowe, though, I mean, what an honor that would be to fight RDA after missing weight.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Barbarina versus Ian Gary I'm okay with that Yeah yeah yeah That's really Who is this? That's Chris London Chris London That's really good
Starting point is 00:59:42 That's really good That's that's that's That's really good I like that Nicola Roy Val All right now we get some doo-doo We start with a compliment And now we go back
Starting point is 00:59:53 Matt Chanel versus Tatsuro Tyra Do-Doo Tyra booked February 4th Jesus Santos Aguilar Come on, Chris London. Is this Chris London?
Starting point is 01:00:05 This is still Chris London. Come on, Chris London. You didn't know, you didn't know about the Tatsuro, Tyra. Hold on Jesus Santos-Aguilar matchup on February 4th in South Korea. How'd you come on, man? Come on. Everyone's talking about it. It's still doo-doo.
Starting point is 01:00:21 It is too. Oh, my God. This might be the biggest doo-doo pick I've ever seen. No. Wait a minute. Now I'm confused. he put Deleidez versus Dacus which is just finable
Starting point is 01:00:38 I should fine you two auto points but then like four spots down it says Dacus versus Treschen Gore It's the holidays So I'm going to go with the Daucus Trayshon Gore pick because you can't possibly mean Dilladezay versus Dachus You can't possibly mean that
Starting point is 01:00:55 Wait did he mean Deleizze versus Anders Oh maybe that has to be yeah he definitely meant like this definitely says docus this dodo okay okay I think he meant Anders
Starting point is 01:01:06 I think I think he meant Anders Docus versus Trashon Gorman That still do-do because you gotta just give me you gotta correct yourself but I'm pretty sure they meant Delete Zhares Andrews
Starting point is 01:01:15 It is the holidays Hill versus Dern Decody versus Yergi Not bad I actually don't mind that one Guida versus Mike Davis Johnson versus Matt Favola Levy versus Jhyrbert
Starting point is 01:01:27 JSP versus Bill Lgio Francis Marshall versus Charles Rosa All right Fine effort C minus John Ray Mad respect to Kevin's corner The Real MVP's Yasbyn versus Cardalosi
Starting point is 01:01:39 Johnson versus Jim Miller Winner Luz Guida versus Pichel Hill versus Waterson Gomez 2 Roe versus Fialio Don't mind that one That's not bad I feel like Ro's beyond
Starting point is 01:01:51 I feel like Roe kind of surpassed Fialio though And I feel like Ro would do to Fialio would his last two opponents have kind of done to him Delizza versus the Tild de Plessy winner Like that, Pavlov versus Gond. Nikolaovov versus...
Starting point is 01:02:04 Oh no. Nikolao versus the Royval Albaazi winner. Boo. Du-Doo. Royval is out of that fight. Al-Bazi now fighting Alessandro Costa. Come on now. RDA versus Nick Diaz.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I hope he gets the counter fight, though. Holland versus D-Rod. That's probably the fight to make for Holland if we're being honest. Thompson versus Magni if Magny wins. against Gilbert Burns. Thompson versus Magnet. Yeah, that's not bad. Magnus fighting Gilbert, so we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Toby, Wonderboy Mazadol to Holland's Pereira, RDA McGregor, Barbarina Griffin, Nicola Royval, Matt Chanel versus Tim Elliott, Pallivich, gone. I'm trying to find some new ones. Delizze versus Derek Brunsum. What do you think about that one? It makes sense. I'm not the biggest fan of the fight.
Starting point is 01:03:00 the guy you replaced, depending who would, I guess depending on the situation. Like, because I almost feel like, and this might not be afraid of Derek Brunson, like you take a guy's spot, you beat their opponent, you kind of also take their spot.
Starting point is 01:03:13 He's not going to take Derek spot in the rankings, but it's like, you shouldn't have to fight that guy. Maybe Roman Delete would want to. Maybe he wants to keep building his resume. Derek Brunson is another top 10 guy. He's higher ranked.
Starting point is 01:03:25 He's higher ranked. I believe on most in the UFC rankings and in our rankings. and on most of our ballots, he's higher his higher rankings. So yeah, if you're deleted, say maybe you look at it as I want to, yeah, by beating Hermanson, I have earned a fight with Derek Brunson. So I take back my initial negative reaction. I think there's a logic to that.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Anders Haas, Roe-Barono, Hilviana, Guida, Neto BJJJ, Johnson, Nazaret, Hackperast, JSP, Tukagoff. I don't even know what's going on with Tukov at this point. I like that pick, though. I have them close together in my rankings, so that's about the right spot. Levy Zayam, Yergi, DiNapopoulos. Let's see. Marcus, also on the Thompson-Mazid all train.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Anything new here? Anything new? Roman deletes Aondre Monez. Eric Anders, Hedolfo Vietta. Yerigui versus Pinheiro. Jard. Kevin Holland versus Francisco Trinaldo. RDA versus Sean Brady.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Connor will fight Chandler. Eric Anders versus Petrosian. Phil Roe versus Michael Morales upon Morales's recovery. Angela Hill versus Pinedero, Clay Guida versus the Patty Pimblet versus Jared Gordon winner. What do you think about that? No, no, no, I just feel like they want to say Clay Gwita versus Patty Pimbleet, but they're abiding by the rules and kind of like just, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:47 not skipping over. And certainly not wanting to disrespect Jared Gordon. I think that's a fun fight for Pat. For me, that's a winner lose. That's a winner lose, Patty Pimlet, Clay Gwit. it would be kind of a cool fight. But I think if Jared Gordon wins, like, Jared Gordon, yeah, I guess Jared Gordon Clay Guida could happen.
Starting point is 01:05:04 But I find Pimblit versus Guida more interesting, regardless of how that fight with Jared Gordon goes. I'm going to just, Jared, I love you. And I say this because I love you. I don't like this pick at all. Just this is not good. This is just not a good pick, at least in my eyes. If Patty beats Jared Gordon, he's fighting a rank guy next. There's just no doubt about it.
Starting point is 01:05:28 It's not going all the way back to fight Clay Grida. It's just not happening. He's a legend. Now, the loser of this fight fighting Clay Guida, I'm cool with, but the winner, Patty's fighting, Patty's fighting like Jalen Turner if he wins, if he beats Jared Gordon.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Or he's getting, like, the Connor fight or something. Like, it's going to be, either he's fighting a fellow up-and-comer, they're going to do like the Molly McCann, Aaron Blanchield type of thing, or they're just going to do something completely weird out of the ball. and try to sell pay-per-views.
Starting point is 01:05:59 So, no, I don't love it, but I appreciate your effort. Michael Johnson versus Tony Ferguson 2 at 55 or 70, JSP versus Sabatini, Yergi versus Maria Oliveira, Francis Marshall versus Ricky Tertios. That might be like the wackiest fight in UFC history. That's going to be weird.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Hold on. Are they even the same weight class? I don't know a lot about France Marshall, Was he a bantam weight before? No, he's just a featherweight, right? Yeah. I'm pretty sure Ricky's a bantam weight. Unless he took his last fight at, unless he took his last fight at $1.45, which I don't think he did.
Starting point is 01:06:40 I think you're right. Bantam weight! Do, do. Well, maybe they just book it. Who the hell knows? I'd watch it. That's just weird and fun. Do you.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Last one, Harry Dewaskin. Yergy, Demopoulos, Mark. Marshall, Camwell, Kirk. Levy, Jafel Alves, Jaspinada, Johnson Jai Herbert, Guida Frivolta, Angela Hill, Marita Rodriguez, Phil Rowe versus D. Rod. Do you have anything new here? Another Nicol L. McCoyef, no one really is available for him. RDA Gunner Nelson, Hollandico Price, Wonderboy versus Muslim Salikoff, aka,
Starting point is 01:07:21 the king of karate versus the king of kung fu? Oh, it has to be done. It has to be done. If Wonderboy loses his next fight, you have to book that fight. There's a lot of fun fights for Wonder Boy still. I know he's on the whole, like, I'm still on a fight for the title tip. But given his style, like he's, again, he's taking some damage, some fights. But otherwise, he's pretty good at a voice. Like, for the most part, the majority of his fights.
Starting point is 01:07:45 And I know yesterday was, sorry, Saturday was a competitive one, a tough one. Go for him, my friend. I'm just saying, I think he, I think he could fight, like, for another, like, two or three more years. I think so too He doesn't need to fight He just likes it Yeah He's a sicko
Starting point is 01:08:01 He's twisted He's sicko He's twisted sicko Go ahead Okay I got a few here I don't know if I can read everyone But let's go to our newbies first We've got three new names on Twitter
Starting point is 01:08:13 Alex McAdam Sounds like a fake name Welcome to the party pal We got Stephen Thompson Padetta I love that RDA Dan Hooker at 55 I'm McGregor at 170
Starting point is 01:08:22 Let me say by the way I had no problem with him calling on McGregor. I think, Mike, I think RDA is trying to correct the timeline. I think ever since that fight with McGregor didn't happen, we've been in like a final destination situation like that. All the horrible things that have happened over the last, what was it, six years ago, are because that fight didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Is that a ripple effect? That fight was supposed to happen and everything would have gone on as normal. He probably would have beat McGregor. McGregor-Megger-Megger-Mannia still happens, but, you know, it looks a little different, maybe takes a little bit longer. It still happens. and Gregor still becomes a massive, massive, massive star. But maybe we're just, everything is just a little off-kilter
Starting point is 01:09:00 because that fight never happened. So RDA, I applaud you for trying to close the loop to end the chaos. I don't understand why people had any problem with that call out. Because they still think it's going to happen. I think it's a waste. I think it's a waste. But it's still possible. Like, there is a chance they put that fight together.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Like there is, that fight makes sense. Like Delizé fighting Shamiath, I love the callout, but there's zero chance that fight happens. That fight makes literally no sense right now. You can RDA McGregor makes a ton of sense. It makes a ton of sense because of the story. It may not be like the most fun, stylistic matchup for McGregor's return. But it's a very realistic fight to make. It just depends on what the UFC is looking at.
Starting point is 01:09:50 If I'm RDA, like if someone called me on the phone and said, how you doing, man? I would say good. Connor McGregor. I would just say his name over and over again until you get that fight. Make that your outgoing voicemail. Just your outgoing voicemail is just Connor McGregor. Buy a suit that is threaded in Connor McGregor's name over and over again. Just like Connor has the FU suit.
Starting point is 01:10:13 MJF wore the better than you suit on AEW on Wednesday. Get one of those suits. This is Connor McGregor on it. Keep doing it. All right. I'm all for it. Let's make this. Yeah, let's make the, the history is there. Keep going with Alex McAdam here. Nicolao v. Amir Al-Bazi. If he wins on the 17th, Paolo versus Gone, DeLi-Leadse, Till DDP winner, TILDDP winner, yes, okay. Anders, Retrogyne, Michael Johnson, Hackpress, Guida Klein. Thank you, Alex.
Starting point is 01:10:41 At Mr. Guy M.MA, the illustrious Mr. Guy MMA. Just a few picks here. Angela Hill, McKenzie Dern. I know you mentioned that one already. RDA Mosvedal and another Marshall Charles Rosa vote okay and another
Starting point is 01:10:55 first timer at Ben Gons 0 1 Otno picks Wonderboy Mazvedol Rade McGregor even though
Starting point is 01:11:01 I don't think it'll happen I know again another Nikola versus Abazi if
Starting point is 01:11:06 Abazi wins Paola versus Roman versus Romon Roboctavar's winner yeah okay
Starting point is 01:11:12 and says your your show is sick hopefully my picks aren't shit uh Alkins sure retired, but not if he needs to get to the Vanderlai.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Not if he needs to get the Vanderlai face lift because he started bleeding 10 seconds into the fight. Kind of what you've been saying, Mike. Let's talk about some of our regulars here. Barry O'Reilly. What's up, Barry? What's going on? Hadeghee v. Wardson Gomez.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Marshall versus Sean Woodson. We got a little doo-to-here. Levy versus Mowgli Benitez. Come on, guys. Mowgli is fighting Jim Miller. JSP versus Edson Barbosa Oh Too soon, Mike?
Starting point is 01:11:55 Yeah, probably Barry is on the Guida versus Patty, win or lose. So some people, I'll let you know Mike, some people are talking about. See who else is on there. What else we go? Another Roe versus Gary, maybe that is the way to go. Delizzi versus Anjimunez. Delizzi has no reason to...
Starting point is 01:12:14 I mean, he probably would, but should not take that fight right now. Stephen Thompson, Michelle Pareda, of course, of course, of course. Chris Martin says we call this the Wonder Dog edition of Otno. I'm okay with it. Thompson versus Neil Magny, Winner Luz versus Burns, right, okay. Holland, Michelle Palletta, there's that. RDA, Michael Chandler. I'm totally into that.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Eric Andrews versus Ian Hinesh. Mike, Ian Hinesh is still in the UFC, correct? I believe so, yeah. Okay. I'm surprised they haven't been matched up. Or maybe they haven't, I forgot. Michael Johnson, Vince Bichel. What else we got in here? A lot of interesting little picks here. Francis Marshall versus T.J. Brown, Eric Silva, loser. Okay. Interesting picks. Thanks, Chris. Orange Sleepwalker. Just a few here. Thompson versus Matthews versus Matthews versus Matthew Semelsberger winner. That's a bit, a little too far down, I think, Mike, right? Even if, let's say Jake Matthews won.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Jake Matthew is on a little bit of a run. I don't think Wonderboy would be interested in fighting Jake Matthews, eh? Probably not right now. Yeah, I don't know if that's going to work out. Is that fight happening? Let me take a look. It sounded weird to me. As I was reading it, I was like, oh, what is that?
Starting point is 01:13:33 It is happening. It's happening December 17th. That's right. That's right. There's too many fights. There's too many fights. Matthews versus Matthew. Thank you, Orrin.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Four Corner Sports, NY. Anything new here? Yeah, they also Wonder Boy Muzzadol rematch or RDAA versus Michael Keisa. Did we not see this? Am I crazy? No, this fight hasn't happened. It has not happened. Which one?
Starting point is 01:14:00 Oh, yeah, we did see this fight happened. RDA and Keza. Oh, unanimous decision win for Keiza. Oh, four corner sports, NY. That is DUDU, my friend. That is, I step right in it. 2016, that fight happened? That is more recent
Starting point is 01:14:15 For 2020 Oh my God, you're right I know I felt that Yeah I honestly I vaguely remember it happened I just that's that's too do you
Starting point is 01:14:24 I stepped right into it Oh I like this more I like this more than Nicolao Schnell versus Mikhail I get he's coming I get Schnell is like I don't want I'm not he's not like a job guy
Starting point is 01:14:37 I don't want to say his job guy But he does kind of fit that mold of what Jed is always talking about Like a guy who He wins fights exciting ways sure but when he loses, he kind of loses an exciting way, too. He kind of puts the other guy,
Starting point is 01:14:48 gives the other guy like a little bit of a rub. And maybe that's what Makaya needs after some pretty nice performances, but, you know, just a little more for the highlight reel. A little more for the highlight reel. I like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Ty versus the Jarzino Christakis winner. Yeah, I'm okay with that. What else are you guys? Eric Andrews, Bruno Silva. I thought about that. I love that matchup. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 01:15:06 I love it. Clay Guida Michael Johnson, too. I don't mind it, but wasn't that fairly recently? that wasn't long ago that was these guys fight so much was that 2020
Starting point is 01:15:21 I'm looking at 2021 so uh okay there's been like a bunch of fights since because both guys are so active but February 2021 that's not like so far away I need to see it again but I mean it could happen it could happen sure
Starting point is 01:15:33 with the way both fighters in the main event looked I don't see either fighting until give or take March 4th the March 4th peer view timetable for Wonderboy Mazvital 2 makes sense published might be the real deal so anyone might be able to put the lights out just about anyone in the heavyweight division
Starting point is 01:15:49 even names of Kanganu and John Jones so four corner sports very high on Sergey Pavlovich and I don't think you're wrong Thomas Collins GSP versus Jack Shore for Shore's featherweight debut that's a tough test that is a tough test and they're with me on the delete save versus
Starting point is 01:16:06 gas limit by Bob winner so thanks Thomas just a few more here Marcus McGahey Marcus what did you call this show what do you call the show it's a wonderful Life Edition. Okay. I'm into that. Another call for Wonder Boy,
Starting point is 01:16:18 Miles Vidal 2. Mike, it looks like, it looks like there's a groundswell for Wonderboy Mouss but all too. It's the right fight. Yeah. No one's going to plan. I think they're thinking
Starting point is 01:16:28 the same way you are as well. Yeah. It's a crystal ball pick here. Angela Hill versus Carolina Colvocaval. Angela Hill wants it. Angela Hill wants to fight Carolina. She's mentioned it before.
Starting point is 01:16:38 She mentioned it again on Saturday. I definitely see that fight. That's a good magical. That's a magical. That's a good crystal ball pick, Marcus. I think you might be getting a point there. Let's move on to Francesco, our big Italian fan. Is it lazy to pick Thompson versus RDA?
Starting point is 01:16:54 Mike, is it lazy to pick Thompson versus RDA? No. I don't like it. Yeah, I think RDA is grappling is a little bit too much for him. Yeah. Delete save Vitori, there you go. Perfect pick. Well done.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Let's go. You and Francesco. Hayes, Bethard. Hayes, thank you. I wish I could read all this. he's always writing these well thought out messages Wonder Boy man what a great fight critical of the main event but I was definitely just flat out wrong
Starting point is 01:17:20 glad we got to see vintage Wonder Boy I picked the winner of this fight for Porriere and it was a bit of a Scattergories play but I'm sticking with it oh I'd love to see Wonder Boy get a somewhat money fight I'd also love to see Dustin have a fight with no bad blood attached to it that's true not of them to be too pumped to face a grappler Dustin has also wanted to fight at 170 I see this as an outside
Starting point is 01:17:42 the box fight that makes sense once you think about it. Also, I feel like it would definitely be a fun fight to watch. It could easily be the featured fight or even a co-main pay-per-view. Comane on a paper view. Mike, Wonderboy, Borea? I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Sure. Sure. That pick made me feel good inside. Mazadol next. You could do that anytime, but at some point I would actually like to see what a Wonderboy does a Poria fight would look like. And it would just be a fun build. Yeah, I'm in.
Starting point is 01:18:15 I don't know if it's right now, but someday, for sure. Hayes is also all in on you with Michael Johnson and Jim Miller. Regardless of the result with Benitez, surprised to see these two haven't fought yet. Yeah, I think a lot of us are. I think I had to double check, Mike when you mentioned it. At Pike Putt was at Amway, live from Amway, Thompson v. DeMolador, RDA, Chandler, 170. Nikolao versus Cap DeVorak winner. I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Didn't Nikola beat both those guys already? didn't he just beat Dvorak and then he beat Nicolao a few fights ago? Yeah, he just beat Dvorak for Chanel and then he won a close fight with Minnell Cop March 2021. Dax, that's a, you know what, you're at Amway. You're not checking your database and everything,
Starting point is 01:18:55 but that is a prime doo-do pick. That is stinky doo-do. He's beaten both guys. There's no reason he actually should have to fight either guy. He'll fight again someday maybe. The first fight was kind of controversial, but I didn't think it was like a robbery or anything. Fire Marshal versus Air Jodin for the Air Nomads.
Starting point is 01:19:11 There's a little avatar reference for you, you nerds out there. And he met Gregor Rodriguez. Way to go, Dax. Good for you. Met Robocop. A couple more here. This is from, oh, gosh, this person who doesn't have a, they don't have a name at someone's online. And so their name is just a yawning emoji.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Wonderboy Mazvedol. There's another one, Holland, Pareda. Nikola versus Kai Karfranz after he beats Perez. So he's calling a shot. He's saying Cai Caius France, that fight with Perez will happen. Fingers crossed for Alex Perez, but Perez will lose and Nicolaoos should fight Kai Karfran. I'm okay with that. And last one here.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Let's go to Ryan Doherty. Ryan Doherty, Anders versus Gep Kyle Borrelio, Roe versus Gary, so all of that, Pavlovich versus Gonn. Nikolao versus your boy, the rod dog, Royval. RDA versus Connor. Wonder Boy versus Barbarina. I don't know if that makes a lot of sense, but if you're...
Starting point is 01:20:09 It makes no sense. I don't want to end on a negative vibe, so I will say for Ryan. If you're Wonderboy, it's a pretty low-risk fight. I think Wonderboy beats Brian Barbarina nine times out of 10, 49 times out of, I don't know how you want to phrase it,
Starting point is 01:20:26 but it's just a really, really good matchup for Thompson. So if he was looking to stay busy and, again, just rack up wins and put on potentially exciting fights against other strikers that might work. But it would be a bit strange. I'll say this. This fight is in play sometimes.
Starting point is 01:20:49 This fight is in play for whenever Wonderboy loses again. I'll say that. Sure. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot my Instagram guys. Real quickly, just a handful of Instagram guys. Ought know an MMA fighting memes. People please follow that account, Michael Connerfrey.
Starting point is 01:21:01 He said he hasn't been able to watch the fights because he had a fight of his own to win. He just had his first fight in amateur boxing. Sorry, his first fight in amateur boxing was almost a year ago to the day. I believe he was victorious. I remember he messes just as a show. He says he's now five and two with two knockouts since then. So I just wanted to get a pit. So congratulations.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Well done on your fighting career so far, Michael. Nathan Levy versus Anasio Bahamanda's both long and lightweights, great kicks in their last fights. I think you read Marcus. You got a mess from Marcus, right, right, Mike? Marcus. Our spreadsheet, man. Yep, I did. Matt Bradbury.
Starting point is 01:21:40 How to Guy versus Marada, sure. Levy versus Jane Malarkey. Jonathan Pierce versus Ryan Hall. No, don't do that to Jonathan Pierce. Stop it. Michael Johnson versus Diego Fehedda. This is a rematch. Is it not?
Starting point is 01:21:54 No, it's not. These two have never fought? It's wild. You know what? Michael Johnson has been around long enough. You bring up any name. And I go like, oh, they haven't bought Michael Johnson. Like, how have you not fought Michael Johnson if you're lightweight?
Starting point is 01:22:06 Or I guess even a featherweight. Eric Andrew. Oh, no. Oh, boy. No, what is this? What is happening here? You said your doo-do detector was on full alert. Oh, no, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Okay, no. This fight has not happened. But, no, it's not happened. But it's like, it just reminds, it's like an entrepreneur situation. It's like Eric Andrew Andrew Veda. It's like, no, man. No. No, no, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:22:31 I think that's a submission win for Veda. But hey, Eric Anders shut me up on Saturday. So I saw a few of these. Pavlovich versus Volkov. Not a lot to get in there. Yeah, I saw a couple of those too. Yeah, not to gain there for Pavlovich right now. It's Stephen Thompson versus Randy Brown.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I like that a lot, actually. And I think Randy Brown has called for it before. I like that fight. Christian, oh, Christian's just showing me off his bets that he won. Congrats Christian. Thanks for making my face because I live in Ontario and we cannot gamble on UFC anymore. So a little too soon, buddy. A little too soon.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Tino Alvarez. Clay Guida, Dracar close, Michael and Johnson Jim Miller. What do we got here? Delete Save Vittorian England. Man, that's... You and the listeners, Mike. You guys got a lot of good fights. Thompson versus...
Starting point is 01:23:12 Jarkar's going to be out for a while, by the way. Okay. What was injury? I'm pretty sure he tore his ACL. Let me just be 100% on that, but I'm pretty sure he tore his ACL before he was supposed to fight Marco Madsen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Stephen Thompson. versus Ponsenibio Lawler winner. Yeah. Yeah, wait, that makes a lot of sense. Why did I not think of that? Yeah, I like the Robbie idea for sure. Okay, December, that's next week, UFC 282. Thank you, Tino.
Starting point is 01:23:43 And I'll close off with James Sherwood. Wonderboy, he corrected himself, Wonder Boy Mazadol, and then he later added a two. And I'm like, well done, James. Yes, you know, you know the rule. RDAvers, oh, this is a little more, a little more broad. RDAVs went after McGregor and low ball fight, low ball fight.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Then you give RDA the winner of that. So good call there. Aldavage Curtis Blades. Deleadzey versus Strickland-Kennaner, loser, Eric Anders, Armid Proterjian, and another Phil Rowe, Ian Gary.
Starting point is 01:24:07 A lot of interest in what's next for Ian Gary. I think Roe was the best suggestion of all the ones that we saw. Definitely not RDA. I think RDA was just... Or Barbarina. I like Barbarina.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I did too. Okay, yeah, yeah. The Barbarina was good, too. Yeah, that one made me feel good. So anyway, thank you guys. Please hit me up on Instagram at Alexander KKK. On Twitter at Alexander Klee,
Starting point is 01:24:26 just a single K. And then on email, Alex. dotly at sbnation.com. There you go. Just hit me up on Instagram. Again, my New Year's resolution will be better on Instagram, and I'll probably fail at that as well.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Join us next week, folks. Our last live matchmaking edition for 2020, coming out of UFC 282, Jan Bolivich versus Makamud Ankleif will battle for the vacant light heavyweight title in the main event. Paddy Pibblev versus Jared Gordon, Santiago Ponza de Bia Rappi Loller, Darren Till, Drickus Duplase, Bryce Mitchell, Iliott, Tporia, very solid main card, very, very solid main card.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Edmund Chabasian, Dulcum Buga, Lungambula, excuse me, Billy Q, Alexander Hernandez, featherweight fight, Eric Silva, T.J. Brown, Jarzina Roaster, Chris Dachis, Chris Curtis, Joachim Buckley. Love that fight, circled for sure. Daniel De Silva, Venetia Salvador, J. Perrin, Raoul Roses, Jr., O. OSP, Antonio Tricoli, Cameron Simon, Stephen Koslow. That is your UFC 282 card. And we'll be having a watch party on Saturday for UFC 282. I'll be back into the studio with my man, G.C.
Starting point is 01:25:41 And we're going to watch some fights. And maybe I think, you know what, A.K., I'm going to put this out there. I think it's time. I think it's time to get you in on the watch party madness. Can I? Can you do? I mean, I would love to have you as a special guest. How do I do it?
Starting point is 01:25:57 We've seen Sean El Shottie. We've seen Jed Mishu. I say we get you in this time around as our MMA fighting representative. Do I, am I in for the whole thing? Am I in for one fight? Do I just call in? Yeah, you come in for a fight and you hang out and watch fights with us. We'll walk you through.
Starting point is 01:26:13 It's easy. It's a Zoom thing. I'm in. I saw my tag team partner, Kristen King, got to be part of it. So I was jealous. I was a little jealous. What is happening right now? Do you hear this?
Starting point is 01:26:29 No. They're just knocking. All of those. All right. Maybe that's a side, though. We got to go. So thank you very much. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Always remember, don't take the stuff too seriously. M.A. is supposed to be fun. We'll have fun. Once again next week after UFC 282 right here. And on to the next one, the podcast.
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