MMA Fighting - On To the Next One | Matches To Make After UFC San Antonio

Episode Date: March 26, 2023

Cory Sandhagen delivered a sensational performance against Marlon Vera in the main event of UFC San Antonio and went on to call his shot against Merab Dvalishvili. Is that the fight to make at 135 with the bantamweight division being in such a weird place? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee attempt to answer that question from a matchmaking perspective following Sandhagen's second straight win. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for Vera after having his four-fight win streak snapped, Holly Holm following her dominant decision win against Yana Santos in the co-main event, Nate Landwehr after electrifying the crowd with his submission win over Austin Lingo and post-fight promo, Maycee Barber following her controversial split decision win over Andrea Lee, along with fellow victors Albert Duraev, Daniel Pineda, and more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Well, hello there, everybody, and welcome to a brand new edition of On to the next one. We are back this week following UFC San Antonio. and to quote a very smart and intelligent, somebody call him a genius man and works for M-Avating.com. That was a card. That was a card indeed. It was an interesting card to say the least

and it's probably like the nicest way to describe it. But I am Mike Hack and joining me as always the co-host, the co-matchmaker, the Prince of Positivity and my best friend. The aforementioned genius, Alexander Klee. Oh, hello-a-K. Too kind, Mike. too kind as always. Thank you. Yes, I do tend to say things like that. That was a card. That was a fight. That was, I don't know, an interview. We certainly had some of that yesterday. It was definitely a card. I want to shout out Chris Martin, Twitter's Chris Martin, for calling this the Splitty City edition. On to the next one, it certainly was. San Antonio was the Splitty City on Saturday night. Oddly, I don't know if we want to talk about judging too much, but I will say at least in all three instances,

I think the judges got it right. I know people are going to disagree with the Barbara Lee. The Barbara Lee call. That's fine. If you scored it 29, 28 for Andrea Lee, I'd have zero issue with it. I'll also say also, I think all splits were, oh, sorry, four splits. I must forgot the main event. The main event I don't even view as a split.

I thought it was pretty clear, pretty clear unanimous. But yes, officially a spit. So four split decisions, including the main event, which we will talk about more in a moment. But yeah, but we'll talk about Barbara Lee. later. You know, I don't want to get into that now. That's a whole other discussion. But yeah, Mike, not the not the most memorable card.

To put it nicely. This is not all that enjoyable to watch. I mean, look, there are some moments. C.G. Vergara, Daniel Lacerda was ridiculous. Like, that fight was insane. For about three minutes, Victor Altamirano,

Venetia Salvador was a lot of fun. And that until Vanisheesh Salvador just got so tired that he couldn't do anything. Daniel Paneda is just a man of mayhem and then Nate Landware is just a national treasure so but other than that it was just rinse and repeat that's just basically what this card was and then we lost all the like whatever positive juju is left

was lost when Brandon Fitzgerald announced that Menal Cop and Alex Perez is up in the heart like that was like that was that was a little that was an emotional punch in the stomach like me not paying attention and that announcement punched me in the stomach and just knocked the, knocked the wind right out of me, just took me right off the tracks.

And I was just like, ugh, this is what it is. It's going to, this is going to feel very contender series-esque, even though there's some bigger names on it, but that's kind of how the rest of this card is going to feel. Some great performances, but this is not one I'm going to go back and watch again. That's for damn sure. Mike, you can't have felt secure that Alex Perez was going to fight. We covered this on the preview show.

You took your licks on social media. The Jose Young's rule, you know, of course, of course always applies that a fight is not official. And we shouldn't say, well, glad to see this person's finally going to get back in there until they actually step into the cage. This was also goes for Haley Cowan, by the way. We don't, her and Alex Perez, I think we don't even talk about them fighting until they're literally standing in the cage and the bell has rung. because Haley Cowan, of course, to a smaller degree, has now her first two UFC debut bookings, both canceled within 48 hours of fight night.

And Alex Prez, do we want to get into how, there's some, there's some, a listener comment I need to address later, so I think we can get more on the Alex Prez stuff there, but yeah, crazy snake-bitten run for Alex Prez, super disappointing. That cap fight was the number two, or possibly number one, most anticipated fight,

maybe even more than the main event. it was just a really important fight for both guys in a great style matchup and boy that sucks and we hope but Alex Perez is okay yeah I said uh some he had a seizure of some kind backstage and he was in the building and I mean all copping ain't buying it so yeah he's been going super hard in the pain on Alex Perez uh even after that explanation cop just continues to go super hard in the pain on him but we wish Alex Perez the best and I'm sure when we get to listener picks we'll talk about the aftermath of losing that fight. So let's get into this thing.

Corey Sanhagen dominates Marlon Vera. Everybody saw that. Everybody who watched it saw that Corey Sanhagen dominated this fight, except for one judge who had the absolute audacity to score the last three rounds for Marlon Vera. I mean, Texas just continuing to be the gold standard for commissional representation for the sport of mixed martial arts. But luckily, as you talked about earlier, the right guy won the fight.

And you know, A.K., Corey Sanhagen being such a sensible, smart, realistic guy. If one of us just had to take a week off and go on vacation or something, I think Corey Sanhagen could find himself in that seat as a guest host of onto the next one. Because damn it, he nailed this one, called out Marab de Welsh, Willie. I think he actually might have done all Marab a favor here because Marab probably would have had to fight Umar and Maga Mada Madov or somebody insane like that after getting the biggest win of his career.

But I think Corey Sanhagen did him a little bit of a favor. And I said Marab would get Sanhagen probably win or lose after the Yon win. And I'm obviously sticking with that. But what a wise man that Corey Sanhagen is, AK. I mean, what a delightful call. And the way he did it was just so professional. Yeah, and I think we can, you know,

it's a little obvious, but I think we can cue up the music a little bit. And Corey, if you're out there listening, you can sing along with us because I think we're all Friends Forever on this one, Mike. One, two, three, four. Friends Forever. Perfectly in time, as always. Yeah, it's Marab, I'm sure on previous shows, I messed him up with other people, but he's just such a strange case. He's such a strange case every time he wins because the obvious fight really is that he should be fighting for the title and it just cannot happen. with Aljo with the top.

So, yeah, listen, there's still these contenders in there. San Hagan volunteering for one of the most, not just dangerous, but, like, unpleasant opponents. Like, there's a reason nobody wants to fight Marab. It's not just that you're going to lose to him. It's going to make you look bad. He's going to drag you into an ugly, bad fight. It's what happened to Jose Aldo.

It's what happened to Pieter Jan. I hope it's not what happens to Corey Sanhagen, because it's a great fight. Regardless of who wins, I think it's a great fight. But, yeah, that's gutsy stuff. That's gutsy stuff. And this isn't necessarily what I want to see next, but this is definitely a crystal ball pick. I think you're right. He did Marab a big favor.

And the matchmakers are, you know, whatever, hit that meeting room on Tuesday and be like, Sanhagen's right. Let's just, let's do it. Marab wants to fight soon. He wants to fight another contender. This is the way to go. Dana, of course, was asked about that idea. Oscar Willis of the Mac Life.

Great guy. Tremendous individual. Says, what did you think about that? Or are you going to give us the. we don't matchmake the night of the fight and Dana said well you answered your own question there with that kind of evil smirk so I'm not convinced that this is the fight that's going to be made but I feel like this is the one that should be made and I got to tell you after watching san hagen's performance I am fascinated in outstanding outstanding we can we can we can criticize the entertainment value

of the main event it's certainly you know it was not the the surefire banger I guess it can't even use the phrase surefire in here it wasn't it wasn't like the fight of the night lock that we all thought it was going to be, probably won't be, you know, one of the 20 best fights when we look back this year. But that's not through any fault to Corey Sanhagen, man. This guy's dealing with a super dangerous opponent. He fought the fought, he fought a really smart tactical fight. He mixed the martial arts. That's a great thing to do when you're fighting Cheeto Vera. Listen, who's a well, both guys are well-rounded. Both guys are well-rounded. I think Sanhagen was just first to everything, first to like, again, initiate the rainstriking, first to initiate the

grappling. And Vera, listen, he can buy this time. He has the kind of finishing ability do that but when you don't find that finish when you don't have when you're not able to find a home for that power late you're going to end up on the wrong end of a decision so it happens sometimes it's not an indictment of marlin vera either marlin vera is a great fighter um so yeah it just it wasn't a a super memorable main event on a super not memorable card but um cori sanhagen fuck great i don't want to see anyone out there hating on cori sanhagen like oh what a what a boring like a strategy you had no it's a winning strategy and he's an excellent martial artist so you know that's how it goes happy that I haven't seen anybody with that take and if I saw it I saw it.

You saw it? Who like who would look at that performance and be like that was boring? Are you shitting me? Someone replied, oh it was worse than caught. It was like blaming Sandhagen. It's like I can't, it's like, oh yeah, Sanhagen really like really turned this one to a stink bomb or something like that. And I'm like, get out of here. Stop watching.

Get it. Go watch anything else. Go watch Power's lap. Get the hell out of here, dude. Mosvidal boxing this weekend. All right. You want some, you want some weird. You want some weird.

tactical freak show fighting. There you go. Do we need to talk about the 48-47 Cheeto? I mean, we talked about it a lot last night on the post-fight show. I mean, what else we say? It was a horrible weekend for the T-D-L-R representatives from judging to referees. It was awful. How could they have...

Did Jason Herzog also... Did they have multiple fights that were reft by... by, sorry, excuse me, judged by people who are also reffing on the card, right? We know Dan Merleata did it. I heard Jason Herzog and Jacob Montalvo also did it. Were they judges on the card, too? I know Jacob Montalvo was a judge, I think. I don't know, did he referee?

Montalvo definitely reft, but I remember his name being... I don't remember his name being... I know Big Dan, but I don't remember Big Dan roughing a fight. We know Big Dan for sure. Okay, he might not have a ref. We know Big Dan for sure judged. Okay, I'll... I'll retract that.

I know what Jason heard of that. And that's something about judgment. And that horrific referee, and that referee who almost let a man, who basically let a man's arm get broken after being unconscious for 45 seconds in a triangle choke at Fury FC judged some fights and was one of the judges, I believe, who scored the Macy Barber fight for Macy Barber. Yeah, yeah. The 3027 Barber, as we said, was Big Dan. That was a weird one. The only thing I'll say again about the main event judging, and I'm going to quote the judging expert, Sean Sheehan, who made a good point. Listen, we're all, first of all, let's call out the judging question.

He is an error. I think Joel O'Heda did a poor job, 48, 47, Vera. I don't agree with it. If you want to give Cheeto a couple of rounds, I can maybe see it, but that really looked like. This is one fight where you almost don't want to scrutinize the criteria too much. I think everyone watching it looked like. Corey Sanhengen was winning the fight. If you want to even take a cursory,

glance at the scoring criteria. It sounds like Corey Sanhagan won the fight. So I'm not really sure what the Oheda saw. Like, this was just pretty clear to everybody. So Sean Sheehan said, Joe Hayda's very experienced. He only had four decisions logged and M-made decisions. Two from last Saturday.

So four in total after Saturday. And, but he said, don't slate the specific judge too much. The commission, the Texas commission, putting someone that inexperience into that spot is the issue here, maybe in a few years with a load of experience. Oh, Heda could be a good judge. He just never should have been placed in that position by an inept commission.

So, yeah, certainly a slap on the risk for O'Heda, but a huge, huge slap on multiple risks for the ever, ever intelligent Texas commission. Because I don't know what they're doing with some of the assignments. I don't know why they're not finding more qualified people, but just a poor showing from the commission once again. Yes, 1,000%. I just don't know how, like, if you want to score, we talked about this as the post-witch,

if you want to score round three for Cheeto, I don't hate that. Like Chris Lee gave round three to Cheeto. It was close. Cheeto landed his best, I mean, that was his best, that was Cheeto's best round. He landed the most significant strikes

of the entire fight in round three. Pretty closely contested round. I thought Cheeto landed the, the stronger shot. So if you want to give him three, fine, but any other round is, it's just unexcusable. So, now,

Marlon Vera is an interesting case, AK, because he had won four in a row. A lot of people thought he should have already gotten his title shot. Just fighting everybody. Just fighting all these dangerous opponents. May have had to fight Marab next if he won that fight. Where does he go from here? To me, last night when I was thinking about this, I had two options. But there's actually many more, probably after looking at the listener picks.

But where did you end up with Cheeto Vera? Yeah, this is a tough one. When he lost, I was kind of like, oh, well, you know, from a matching perspective, at least this kind of frees him up because, you know, we've been trying to on Otno, we've been trying to move him up while also putting him in entertaining fights and be fair to other contenders.

So I'm probably taking too much of a step back here, but I do want to see this fight again and I think it'd be good for bold guys. I think he keeps gold guys in the mix. So I want to see him fight Song and Dong again after Song, because I'm predicting that Song will lose to Ricky Simone on April 26. second. So after Song lose that

fight, let's run it back with Vera. It'll be three years from their first fight by the time this gets booked if it happens. And the first fight was pretty controversial. Marlon Chito Vera feels pretty strongly that he beat Song Yadong the first time. I didn't think it was a robbery, but it was close and competitive.

And one that, I'm sure Cheeto, like I said, he said he wants it back and he could probably get it back. So that's a way to go for me. I don't know if you have a better original matchup. I know there's plenty. So I have two options The first one I thought of was

Adrian Yonnas and he beats Rob Fon Because there's no way that fight's not electric Although I do think that if Yonnas does win that fight The UFC is just going to strap the rockets to him And they're just going to give him They're going to put him in a position where if he gets one more When he's fighting for a title So

Because Cheeto is The G that he is I am going with option B Since Corey Sanhagen did Marab de Walsh really a favor, unfortunately he did not do Cheeto Vera any favors because he beat Cheeto and now because Corey called up Marab, Chito is going to have to try to stop the absolute wrecking train that is Umar Namaga Madoff and Cheeto isn't going to say no to that fight. He'll probably welcome that fight and since Jonathan Martinez has not taken my advice to change his nickname from

TSB TV to the Norma Madov Slayer, which in hindsight in the long run may not be the worst idea in the world Cheeto wins the Cheeto wins the contest he gets the the Umar Prize and that's the fight I think that we'll end up getting AK.

Damn. Cheeto definitely won't say no. I wish Cheeto would start saying no to more things but this but this whole week it was classic Cheeto just saying listen I do I do I sign the contracts the company sends me I don't like politics

if I keep doing what I'm doing I'm going to get my reward. I wish that were true. Cheeto, you've got to start fighting for yourself, man, because you're a brilliant talent, very popular fighter. But at some point, you've got to put your foot down and say,

these are the matchups I want, this is the goal I want. You can keep saying you want to fight for the UFC title, but if you don't actually demand a title shot, sooner rather than later, after your next win, whoever may be, you're going to keep getting these Umar and a Megamatta of matchups.

You're going to end up fighting Maraud Walsh, really. You're going to end up fighting just the toughest, toughest fights and never actually fighting for the title itself. So, Mike, I hate that you went in that direction, but it's also a pretty solid crystal ball pick, man. I really think that that's how the UFC reward Cheeto Vera for his loyalty here, take on this undefeated monster. Congrats. Now, what he should do is just do nothing. Just sit out, wait for Sean O'Malley to lose to either Al Jermaine Sterling or Henry Sehudo, which is what I'm predicting is going to happen either way. And then we can book the rematch of those two guys. Like, cool. I mean, I know that one's kind of out

there forever, but. Or just sit out for a year and get a title shot or something, because that appears to be how we're, I don't even know. I know. I'm listening. I know. It's not the same. In a world that, in a world where Kamar Usman doesn't exist, Colby's been the champion for seven years. You're right. You're right. You're right. And yes, that happened. Yeah. know what and you know god blessed indwa in his hypotheticals because that that is again how his championship should be decided we should be looking we should be peering into alternate universes and deciding that based on that you know how that played out in this in this dream scenario uh this guy would be champion and and because of that he should he should have some sort of reward in this in this life i don't know

my head hurts might yeah even the post fight press conference was like mid like oscar like did all the heavy lifting, but no one asked about the John Anick thing, which I hate to see that story continue on. Surprising. But how do you not ask Dana Wade about that? Surprising. And not one person asked about Alex Perez. Not one person asked about Alex Perez.

How do you not, like that is, especially when Vince Morales put out that tweet saying, like, it's not my story to tell. Like, you know something like kind of scary happened. No one asked Dana about Alex Perez. What are we doing here? And by the way, you listen, I have all the respect to the world for the guys who are on site, the media that's on site and hustling. But yeah, these things happen. These things get missed.

And I think that I think some of the guys there are probably guys and gals down there are probably. They're tired. They're tired. They're tired one. And, you know, whatever. You sort of have this list of things. And I wouldn't have, yes, I listen, Alex Perez should have been on that list for sure. and it is a lot the john anic question should have been on the list for sure but again you know

I'm not there I'm not going to necessarily call out people but but it's true we we as a media collective sometimes we need to do better with these things like I said I'm not calling anyone out specifically I understand it's it's all of us as a as a community I don't always like when people lump every MMA media member in the same thing together like when people go like oh the media is it's just drives me crazy but yeah in this distance I'll uh I'll just say like you know when you're on site things are happening pretty quickly and you're not always don't always have everything together as far as questions and angles go but yep big miss big miss for the media here with uh not asking about annick and Alex Perez yeah there were there are a lot of

locals there so I'll let that side I mean I'm just a little grumpy from the card and I don't know it's not your fault the algae's beating the hell out of me I don't know but let's move on to Holly Holm who just big sister Giannasanto's the fight was not pretty it was not competitive. It was one-sided city. She had no names in mind. This is too easy, AK, this is the easiest pick of the entire card. It's Misha Tate, as long as she is somewhat competitive with Myra Bueno Silva. If Tate gets the doors blown off of her, I will revisit this pick, but the clock is ticking here. We're almost at now or never territory to book this rematch between Holly Home and Misha Tate. I think you have to do it now. Even if, like, you know what,

just pull Myra Bueno Silver out of this fight and just, Save me, Shepardle Hall of rematch. I'm sorry, Meyer. I know how much you've wanted this fight, but I mean, literally we're at the last legs of rebooking this, of doing this rematch. And it's the most, it's honestly the only Holly Holm fight that I want to see. That's all I want to see. So, yeah, that's our map.

Yeah, listen, you see, if you could just write, uh, write, uh, Marka Selva, like a hundred thousand dollar check to, uh, you know, come down with the, come down with the flu or something like that. So, yeah, it's, it's, I'll, I'll, I'll tell you something though, Mike, I, I, I, I, I, see the appeal in the matchup. I'm kind of over it. Why? I'm kind of over it. I don't know. I think because I just haven't been impressed by home, I understand it's probably still a good matchup. This is probably end up being

like best case scenario when like Randy Kouture fought Big Nog. You know what I mean? It was well past its best before date, but still turn. People go to fight past, watch that fight. Really enjoyable fight between two veterans just because of the style. Their styles make a lot of sense. Same with Michanah Ali Home right now. You're right. This fight could happen a year from now, two years from now, you know, if hell's permitting. And yeah, listen, both women are not in their prime, but it'd be a good fight. It'd be a good fight. You have that drama, you have that storyline. But if it never happens for me, I'm not going to like cry about it. If we'd have to wait a while, I mean, not that Holm is the most active fighter anyway, but the

Tate Silva fight, June 3rd, June 3rd. And then there'll be a little time after that. So this would be like, you know, Holly Home wouldn't come back until the last quarter, I guess, of the year, which would be pretty standard for Holly Home. Again, not, you know, exactly Donald Cowboy Soroni as far as getting into the cage. But that's a long wait for her. I do wonder if she wants to fight again or possibly just wait for Amanda Nunes title shot or something like that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I also think Tate has to win. Like, I think she has to beat my.

I got a lot of this from people sending in picks. You're saying also if Tate like when we're saying win-lose-or draw, right? You want to see this fight with Holm happen? Or she has to win? No, she doesn't have to win. She just has to look good. She has to be competitive. Like if she loses a 29-28 decision in a closely contested fight, I still think we can make this fight.

But if Meyer Boyna Silva just runs her over and taps her in three minutes, then no, we can't do it. I, yeah, definitely not in that case. I think Tate needs to win. Even if it's a competitive decision, I think Tate needs to win. I think she has to do something to earn the fight. It's a sellable fight. I get it. It doesn't.

But Tate, if she loses, would be, what, three straight losses. One of them at flyweight, fine. But she didn't look great against Lauren Murphy. She didn't look great against Kentland Bayera. And then she gets to fight, you know, a top five, sounds so strange to say, top five pantomweight in Holly Hall. It would just seem weird to me, even though it's, again, a fight you could kind of throw on a paper you, just based on name value alone and their history. Anyway, with all that said, I'm going with Julianna Pena.

I feel like we've asked for this many times. It makes a lot of sense. We just don't know what Pena's deal is. I don't know if she's holding out for another Nunez fight. I don't think that's going to happen. So I think if either of these women wants one more shot at Amanda, they've got to fight each other. So that's just, this isn't necessarily a crystal ball pick. this is just how I would do it.

AKA you sold me, so I'm going to officially change my pick. I'm going to alter it slightly. Holly Holen versus the winner of Meyer Bueno Silva versus Misha Tate. Yeah, see, I would like, because I think MBS would earn a fight with Holt if she beats Mish Tate. Surely. Yeah. Take the Caitlin Viera path and see how that works out for you.

But I beg, golly, I really wish we had like 10 more. women's band and weights. Just 10 more. But we're just, it's just such a bad division. I'm not going to say another word because I'm already well over my HR spoke to me, Mike. They said, stop talking about women's band to weight. You are well over your quota. You are only, as a member of the MMA media, you are only supposed to spend maybe five minutes a week. You're allotted five, ten minutes a week to talk about one of the worst divisions in all of MMA. And I have spoken, I've contributed, spoken maybe almost a full hour. hour. If you take the ranking show and the preview show and now this show, I'm probably over an hour

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We get the deals. You gift the good stuff. Well, thank God we're moving to the men's featherweight division, which is really fun and deep and electric. Nate Landware is just a treasure, A.K., he's just a delight. The fight starts a little slower than we expected. with Austin Lingo, but then his inner festus from old WWF lure kind of kicked in. It was like he heard a ringbell in his brain and he was like, uh-oh, okay. He turns it up a notch, hurts Austin Lingo, knocks his mouthpiece out, busts him open,

and then just strangles him and just cuts a great promo, kisses the biceps. It's just very, very 80s, cool, heelish stuff. like everything about Nate Landware is just an A plus at the moment. And there's obviously a lot of fun options for him at 145. So what do you like for Nate the train, AK? I know you want to wax poetically on the man for a moment as well. Mike, I cheated. No, Mike, I cheated again.

I've been cheating. There's like two or three weeks in a row. I've circumvented the ought no rules. Because you and I had a little internal discussion about what to do with this, you know, this main, because the main card got changed. Do we always do all the people on the main card? So this time, you know, Alex Perez and Manel Copton happened. So one of the fights got moved to the main card, the main card.

We had a new main card opener. And you said, you said, sir, we are not doing the winner of the main card opener between Daniel Paneda and Tucker Lutz because it was not technically supposed to be a main card fight. I mildly protested before relenting and then later in the evening realizing I had a loophole because I am going to match break for Daniel Paneda because he is my matchup for Nate Landwer. It's just to be an awesome, awesome fight. I mean, listen, you want action. Nate Land where he's on a streak of finishes.

He's on a streak of performance bonuses. Oh, sorry, not a streak of finish. Excuse me. A streak of performance bonuses. I forgot the, the David-on-Nama fight felt like it should have been finished, like, two or three different times. So he's money right now. Dan Vanita, 28, how many career wins now? 28 career wins, all by knockout or submission.

Just insane. So either The thing with Lambert is listening He's either going to win a thrilling Just an absolutely disgustingly thrilling decision Or he's going to find a finish Or down to me he's going to find a finish So this makes way too much sense

Hopefully both guys are in good health And we can see this happen within the next three months And booked within the next couple weeks This is the way to go I did That's fun That's fun I went a different route for both guys

I think people will be happy with both of my selections here Nate Landware versus Sudik Yusuf is the fight, AK. That is the fight. The unfur, like, Sudeik Yusuf doing an unprofessional breakdown

for his own fight with Nate Landware will be the best social media content of the year. And maybe Nate will come out and do his own sort of breakdown on his own fight with Sadiq Yusuf. So I think Nate is no disrespect to Daniel Paneda. Daniel's obviously full of mayhem. He's fun to watch. I just feel like Nate's like a fringe top-fills.

guy right now. He's very, very close to having a number next to his name. And I think Sadiq's probably the right guy to get in there with. And I would just like to see what happens with those two. So I think Nate is probably earned a little bit of a bigger fight. So I'll go with that. I do have a fun one for Daniel Panade and we'll get there in a moment. But let's go to Macy Barber. And this is where things get interesting, AK. I loved the matchmaking here. I thought this is a perfect piece of business. It was a perfect step up in competition for Macy Barber. Having said that, I thought Andrew Lee won the fight.

It's not a robbery. It's super close. It would be one I'd probably have to go back and watch again. I'm not going to, but it was a super close fight. And my first thought heading in to it was if Macy is to win this fight, like I'm just ready to give her the Jennifer Maya test. Let's just see what she does. And after watching the fight, I have completely changed course.

on that one. Oh. I just like it's clear that the UFC is very high on Macy Barber. They want to do something with her. They want to push her up the ladder. But I think even after watching this performance, again, I thought Angiuli won. Let's just go one spot up at a time. There's no need to rush her. The Jennifer May attest, I'm not giving her right now because I don't think she wins that fight. So let's go Viviani Arrucho, AK. That's what I'm going with. Macy Barber, Viviani Arroos. Ujo. She wins that. We go to number nine, go to eight, and we just slowly build her up. I almost went a man to Hebas. Actually, that's too much of a step up. So I'll go with Arrujo. I think that's a good test to see her, can try to evolve even more. But this is a tough one. I just don't know

how high to push it right now. Yeah, I also thought about Maya and Hebas. Really, she's really in play for any opponent with a ranking right now. She's number 15 in our own rankings. I assume she's a little higher in the UFC's official rankings, that would make sense. So, yeah, so I guess she's due for, you could maybe say a top 10 opponent. I didn't quite go there. Let me talk about the judging a little first. So this was, I'll admit, by the way, but as we always say on Fight Nights, Mike, we don't always have the best, like the best chance to properly evaluate a fight.

You know, we're juggling other things. So I will, I will say I was fine with the decision. I was watching the fight again maybe not as close as I could have been I was fine with the decision again I'm fine either way I'm even fine with 30 27 Lee scores

I actually don't have a super big issue with it it just a 3027 in either direction I don't know if you would say 3027 Barber but even a 3027 Lee would be you know sorry it doesn't it doesn't tell you how close

at least two of those rounds were I feel I feel like you would say 3027 Lee and still feel like the fight was close. Maybe I'm crazy. I'm just looking at M.A. Decisions now, a handful of did. I think our own E. Casey Leiden, I believe, also had a 3027, Andrea Lee. If not I'm a second, he definitely thought Andrew

Lee won the fight. So, again, this is going to frustrate people because if we're going to say, well, how can you say that one fighter has an argument to have won all three rounds and it still be close? Because, again, that's the round, it's a round by round score. It's a round by round score. At least two

of the rounds were close. Could have gone either way. And in that case, I can't call the robbery. A lot of people are messaging me saying, is there going to be a robbery review? I'm like, I'm like, could I should have just said to every, I should have had an auto reply. Could you make an argument that two of the three rounds could have gone either way? Pretty firmly, yes. So what is the robbery discussion here? I feel, I feel a bit bad for Andrew Lee, has had no luck with split decisions in the UFC.

Macy Barber now. In Texas? In Texas, yes. The Lauren Murphy fight, which was way more controversial, UFC 247. If you go to M.A decisions, I think it's 100% of the media scored that Murphy fight for for Andrew Lee. So that was even worse than this one. So, yeah, San Antonio now, Houston before.

Also a split decision to Joanne Calderwood. And she also has split decision lost to Roxy back in the Hearnvik today. And outside of that, she has one split decision victory to her name. Again, not in the UFC. So very tough luck for Andrew Lee. Listen, a lot of people say sometimes she just doesn't do enough for her. grappling. We know she can grapple. We know she can finish. So maybe she just needs to, her and her team need to figure out a way to like make her offense more apparent to the judges

because either she's not doing enough or what she's doing isn't being appreciated by those scoring the fight. Either way, it's a fixable problem, even if it is a frustrating problem. And if you're anjolina team, you probably feel like you did enough. But that's the breaks of the game and you're going to have to go back to the lab now. But yeah, very tough loss for her. I have no problem, though, with the scoring the fight either way. I mentioned John Wood, so I will say, that's my pick for Macy Barber, Mike. I didn't, I'm going way, I'm pulling way back, not way back, but, you know, I think Maya, like I said, Hebas, even Arujo. These are all names that are higher than Joanne Wood.

I kind of wanted to see Barbara maybe fight another veteran, maybe there's the way for her to go almost like a legend killer type deal. Not that Andrew Lee is like in The Twilight of a career or anything, but, you know, she's certainly much more veteran than Macy's. Barber. So I'm going, Joanne went for the next opponent. I know people want to see some Scotland on Scotland crime, I think, with Joanne and Casey O'Neill, but let me just pick a little more. There's almost a crystal

ball pick. I feel like this is a weird one that no one's thinking of, and that it's just going to pop up out of nowhere, and people are like, oh, okay, Nacy Barber's fighting Jojo. Sure. And you know, we keep, for me, we keep this kind of slow role with Macy Barber, even though I'm sure she'd love to fight, as you said, Hibis, Maya, a higher rank

name. Interesting. I don't love that pick It's not a sexy pick It's not a sexy pick It's not a sexy pick It's not a sexy pick And I don't want to sound bad I think Macy runs Joe Ann Wood

Like I don't think I think Macy wins that fight I want to see her run somebody Listen I want to see Macy run somebody Because she's looked really good at times I mean she's look really good in some of her fights But if she has gotten to the level Where she can run through Jojo

And you're right I think she should I want to see it I want to see it Okay Fair enough. I for sure, yeah, with the judging there, when Bruce Buffer said 3027, I was like, oh, Andrew Lee won.

Like I felt very confident in Drew Lee won. But I saw people on Twitter, like media members, saying after the two rounds, oh, it's clear 2018 for Barbara. I'm like, clear? I don't know about that. Like super, I mean, I'm just all out 1,000% confidence that Macy Barber won those first two rounds,

and they weren't even close. I'm like, what? What fight are you watching? Because on the feet, it was like all three rounds were very competitive on the feet. And if we're talking about the only differences here, answer is getting the takedowns and getting dominant position. It wasn't like she was sitting in guard. She was inside control.

She was mounting Macy Barber. She had her back. I just, I was like, how could you be so confident that Macy won those first two rounds? I don't hate the 3027 scorecard for Barbara. I don't love it. I get it because there were three close rounds. But yeah, I was just like, wow, you guys are really confident that maybe the Tony Kelly effect just rubbed off on Andrea Lee or something.

Like, I just didn't know why people were so confident. But good win. Great matchmaking. This is the kind of test I wanted to see from Macy Barber, how she would pass it. And she did a good job. So good for her. Despite the course of booze reigned upon. on her inside the San Antonio case.

She's used to it by now. Albert Dariah F, AK. We have a new contender for the middle-weight, middle-weight title. He has jumped. We will have our middle-weightiest middle-weight ranking show debuting next week. And Albert Dariaheff will be one of the new contenders. And you know what? He actually made Chee-in-Jokawani a middle-weighty, middle-way contender as well,

which I never thought I would say into a live microphone. but Derive gets the win. It was a close fight, somewhat controversial. Again, if you go to M.A. decisions, this was split right down the middle. This is a middleweight fight by all definition. I didn't think very much about this AK. I just went with Jun Young Park. I think it makes sense with where I have these two guys ranked.

So sure, let's do that. Did not give this a lot of thought. It is what it is. Your thoughts on. What's next for Mr. Dariahe. How did this become, like this is a classic striker versus grappler matchup. And somehow you neither saw great striking from Cheady and Jaquani and nor outstanding grappling from Albert Dariyev. Like, you're right. This is what middleweight does to people.

When we talk about middleweight, middleweight being a weird division, this is what it does. There's something about guys who you know have an A skill. I consider Enjikwani, I would grade his striking as an A. I would grade Dariav's grappling, maybe A is generous. I'll be generous. I'll say an A. But when they met, you would not think that Dariah was one of the best grapplers in division. You would not think Chidi was one of the best strikers in the division.

It's just this ugly, ugly clash of styles. I don't know how these things keep happening at 185. It's just this bizarre zone. And as you said, the judging right down the middle really could have gone either way, no issue. I like the Jun-Yong Park matchup. I think I picked him for Nickel, Bonickel, a while ago. So that's off the table for me. Let's go.

Let's keep trying to make the most middleweight fight possible. And, oh wait, wait a minute. Did this guy get booked? Oh, wait a minute. I got to check myself now. I'm having a weird second thought that this guy just got booked. But he also just fought. So, hold on.

That you can hear me typing before I accidentally drop some doo-doo. Oh, no, he got booked. I forgot. Damn, I wanted to see him fight Mark Andre Baguio, but Mark Andre is fighting Eric Anders, U.S. 289. Damn, that's such a... And that's a super middleweighty matchup.

That is very middleweighty. You know, I give Derai of the winner of that fight. I messed up. So give them the winner of that fight, and let's keep this middleweight mishmash of 2020. I'm not promising this, Mike. But by the end of the year, I might have to do a ton,

and not, I don't think our overlords at, MMA might, MMA fighting will approve of this. But I may just do a Twitter thread, the top 10 most middleweighty fights of 2023. I think I have to. We've already seen so. many. We've seen so many.

Can I count Trevin Jals versus Preston Farsons? Yes. Yes. That's a welterweight fight in name only. That was a middleweight bout. Trevin Jal's former middleweight brought middleweight with him, has brought

middleweight with him to the welterweight division somehow. It's unbelievable because that was a middleweight fight at 170 pounds. I think we've had a We've had a bunch of them in the shit. Unbelievable. We had, I mean, we definitely had one at 286.

Marvin Vittori versus Roman Delete was certainly middleweighty. I feel like there was a stretch where we were coming out of it. When Izzy was coming up, Robert Whitaker was the champ, Paula Costa was coming up. I felt like there was a, like, middleweight was actually becoming a compelling division to watch, like from an in-cage standpoint. Like, guys are actually breaking out. stylistically and then somehow I don't know what's happened where it's it's it's falling back

into its traditional middleweight ways and it's wonderful it's wonderful I just it's just bizarre I know there was a time when it was starting to actually have an identity now it's once again like describe the middleweight division in one word you just say it's middleweight that's it let's go back to the featherweight division Daniel pinata gets a big win he gets finished as he always does when he wins and like my initial thought was let's just do Daniel Paneda versus Machuanamir-Khani because those two are just going to just get bananas for six minutes and then it's just going to be huffing and puffing and it's just going to be insane. I did not go that route because I don't know if Mach-Wanamir-Kani is long for this UFC world, but I'm with you.

I'm on Team Chaos for Daniel Panetta and I feel like I have just the matchup, just the matchup. We have the Wiley Vet and Daniel Panetta with 100% finish rate taking on the up-and-comer who is just full of chaos and weirdness. Joe Anderson Brito, A.K. Come on down. Madness at its finest. That fight, I mean,

the Paneda under is the new, will be the new hot bet for no-bets barred since fly-wind unders did not do well in San Antonio last night. So, Joe Anderson-Brito versus Daniel Panetta is absolutely ridiculous. So I'm going that route. What happens? Oh, 250.

Okay, okay, as I'd say, last day it was two, He'll have to be under two and a half rounds because he is making people sweat that one and a half. Tucker Lutz, two minutes and 50 into the second round. Andre Frily went to the second round and no contest. Cubs Swanson's second round 152, so that would have hit. He lost that one. And Herbert Burns, 437 into the second round.

He'll have to be an under two and a half. Otherwise, if anyone's betting under one and a half on Paneda, they're just going to have a frigging heart attack every time he gets in there. Yeah, love the Joe Anderson-Brito. matchup. I'm just still marvel. 28 finishes, Mike. 28 wins, 28 finishes.

And that's excluding in the PFL when he got first round finishes of Jeremy Kennedy and Movliqqqqqbalayev that were overturned because he failed a drug test. So technically, if you're like me, you don't care about cheating and encourage as much cheating as possible.

30 wins, 30 finishes. 30 wins, 30 finishes. I don't even he just needs to fight at least two more times this year, please. Yeah, he's get her, he is get her, get God. Man. That's it.

And you got to love it. You got to respect it. If you're not going to fight for titles, just be that. Just be that guy. That's fun. Super fun and entertaining. Let's head to the wild card round, AK. Let's make a matchup for a fighter we have not match made for yet.

Who do you got? Who's your wild card selection? Did we both pick CJ for Garra? We sure did. We sure did. I will, honestly, I've never felt more confident that we're going to get a friend's forever here. I've never felt more confident.

Oh, don't say that. I think we should. Don't let me down. I feel very good about this, though. I feel very confident. I do too. I mean, it has to go Bruno Bulldog Silver, right?

Oh, Mike. Damn it. Damn it! Which way did you go? Oh, Tyson Nam. This is like, this is it. Yeah, I mean, I love that.

I love that for sure. I just, I, I know, Bruno, Bulldog just fought and Tyson Dam just fought and, um, for sure. Like, that's, that's, that's a great matchup. But no, I went with Bulldog. Um, yeah, listen, this is, this is, this is chaos. This is, uh, that should have been a flyweight under that fight. Uh, I will, I will full disclosure. I always say don't bet on MMA, but I love me some flyweight unders.

I did put, uh, five or 10 or 10, I'm not sure, unit or half a unit on, on, on that fight to go under. And when it went past the middle of the second round, I was just laughing because it, It looked like the Lacerda was going to finish in the first round. He had regard of running away. I was like, what is going? I'm like, Herzog, just call the fight, though taking my gambling interest out of it. Technically, it was intelligent defense, Mike, because intelligent enough that he avoided getting knocked out and he came back to win the fight. So I guess that's intelligent defense.

It's certainly effective defense. He won. He won. So how can I, how can I criticize that? And he gave us a wonderful meme of him literally running away in the cage, but doing just enough to defend himself, always having his eye and his opponent. So I actually will say Herzog did a good job there. Again, if it wasn't for my gambling interest, I probably would not have been bothered by the running away at all.

It just looks funny. It looks funny. I know some people that Jed Mishu is vehemently against it. But, hey, you're in a fight. If it's not against the rules to run away, then it's not against the rules. He did what you had to do. So, yeah, love that fight. It also could have gotten finished early in the same.

second round when vrigaro was on top throwing and man but uh lacerda was just hanging in there just would not let himself be finished until until he uh he just ran out of gas near the end of the end of the rounds so amazing fight one of my favorite fights of the year honestly one my favorite fights of the year i don't know if it's going to take my top five but boy it's so memorable and um if you want to if you want to sew someone who's never seen the ever made before a fight just show them that one because it's so weird um and i think there's more weirdness ahead and uh i think him him and Bulldog, which would be chaos. But I like Tyson NAM too, Mike.

Yes. Shout out to Holly on Twitter at H-O-L-L-L-Y-Y-Y underscore, because it's nice to, maybe it's two underscores. I don't know. It's nice to see somebody with just an appreciation for the past. And as soon as I saw that moment where Vergara was sprinting around the cage, immediately in my mind the Benny Hill theme was going off. I'm like, someone's got to do this.

Someone has to do this. And shout out to Holly. She put the appropriate music behind. She nailed it. That's exactly what I thought of. Nah, nah, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, nah. It was great. Yacchity Sax.

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Uh, you and I deserve not a point, Mike for, yes, we do. What, what was the match I was looking? Uh, Jack Della Madelena versus Vicente, Lucie. We said, bring it on. It's not done. That's not done, though. I don't even think that's a real thing. Who reported this?

Some, it wasn't. so that's all you need to know oh that's right I've been told there's no truth to that fight as of right now not saying they won't make it but it hasn't even been discussed at this damn I forgot I thought this was a big Marcel breaking news thing no this was from the very reputable at binhead 420 so I apologize I I I still want that to happen you're right I'm sorry we do not get a point for that binhead 420 I apologize for for bringing your reporting into questioning.

But thank you for at least putting that out there into the universe. And let's hope that one happens. Other way, Brendan Allen, I think Jack Hermanson, I know some people ask for that. Sorry, guys, I haven't been keeping you. I got to remind people, tell, you know what, just tell me. Just tell me if you think you deserve a point. I know people have been telling me, and I still miss it. That's on me, guys.

But listen, we're still early in the year. Still plenty of odd-no points to be handed out. I know a lot of people wanted Jack Hermanson and Brendan Allen. So that one we have we reported, right? Which one? Brennan Allen, Jack Hermanson. Yeah, that's confirmed. All right, that's confirmed.

That's going to be out there. That's a main event. Ian Gary and Dan Rodriguez is another one. I know people ask for. So if you are one of the people who recommended those fights, Alan Hermanson or Ian Gary, Ian Machado, Gary, excuse me, and Dan Rodriguez, your fraction of a point is in the mail. Your fraction of points.

It's a shared point, and we shared. as a community. But as always, great matchmaking everyone. Nice. You want to do the disclosure? There is some do-dus. Sure. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. Just some, oh, boy. Mine was relatively do-do-free, I think. But yeah, guys, please, just be careful. Again, guys, check M-Afighting.com. Check tabology. Check Sherdog. Whatever your, you know, news slash database source of choices. And check the weight class people are fighting in.

Have they fought already? You know, just add a two or a three next to their name. if this matchup we want that badly. Notable injury, fighters that aren't in the UFC anymore, fighters that already booked, this is always the biggest offender, and fighters who are teammates, close friends,

et cetera, let's try and avoid that. And also just don't make bad picks. Guess what? Those are do-do too, and it sounds like Mike got some of those. I did. So let's get into this.

CV. So, Mike. Long-time listener, first-time submit her to you. I submitted to Alex a couple times already. Here are my picks. the train versus Lorone Murphy. Bangor alert. Sandhagen versus Barab, obviously with Corey's callout. Vera versus Piotr-Yon, the battle of the slow starters. Keep doing the damn thing and thank you to you,

AK, and the rest of the gang piece. Sure. Like those picks. All those are very sensible and do-do-free, which we like. Tert Ferguson. Holm versus Pena is the only fresh fight for home, but I don't see Pena taking anything short of a title shot. Do you do a quick remit? Do you do a quick remit? match with Aldana or Ketlin or a trilogy with Pennington even though Holm is 2 and O against her. I would listen if if a genie came and said give me one wish for MMA I would highly consider telling the genie just do everything in your power to not make Holly Holie Holm versus Raquel Pennington ever again. That was that second fight was so bad.

I mean it was just so, so, so bad. I think people forget the first fight wasn't particularly great either. The first, well, yeah, I mean, at least I'd give a little bit of a pass because Holly was very green. Sure. And Raquel was kind of green too. But this was like all, this is years later. And it was worse. It was actually worse.

That first fight, though, people forget, like, Holly was pretty hyped coming in. And it's not like that to fight. It's like, oh, she won a split in the first fight. It's not like people who are going, oh, well, Holly Holmes sucks now. It's just like it definitely dulled a lot of the excitement around Holly home at the time. It was a very bad fight. I thought she lost. I thought she was not a convincing victory by any means.

And really, it's part of the reason why by the time and two fights later she got the Ronda Rousey fight. You know, in retrospect, everyone goes like, oh, well, Holly, like, shouldn't have been such a huge underdog. It's like, based on her first two fights in the UFC, there was a very good reason she was a massive underdog. She just did not look impressive. Even though, yes, on paper, people knew stylistically she could give rousey problems, like just based on what she had done in her first two UFC fights. It wasn't great. So, yeah, Raquel Pennington won bad.

Raquel Pennington. Excuse me. Holm Pennington one bad. Holm Pettington two. Awful. Never again. Never again. I would say if those options, maybe we do it all down again.

I would kind of be interested in seeing that rematch just because I don't think, like Holly look great, but I don't. think she only got she fought like the 60% version of aldana because of COVID and everything she had to go through to get into that fight and i take her at her word for that so i'd be interested in saying that one again but i would also like to see aldana just get the title shot at this point so but yeah do not do pennington please for the love of god let us not do that fight do pennington versus painia come on those two freaking hate each other we have enough video clips Nate landwer versus damon jackson like that one great he's with me on macy barber versus viviani a rujo and Albert Dariah versus the Brad Tavares, Bruno Silver winner. I think Dariah F and Tavares may train together at Extreme Couture. I'm not 100% on that, but I'm pretty sure Dariah is an extreme Couture guy now.

So you would take him, Tavares out of that equation, and a couple of other guys as well. Panada versus Sabatini. Is Sabatini booked? I don't know if he's booked yet. Let me check real quick. That sounds familiar.

Lucas Alexander Sung Wu Choi, Trevin Giles, Brian Battle, C.G. Vergara, versus the Alessandro Costa versus Jimmy Flick winner. Sabatini is not booked. Sweet. All right. What was the last one, Mike? C.G. Vergara versus the Alessandro Costa versus Jimmy Flick winner.

Love it. I would love to see Cigvigvigar and Jimmy Flick. Alessandro Costa as well, but more so Jimmy Flick. Let's go to Marcus. Lucas Alexander versus Duh Ho Choi. Paneda versus Damon Jackson. Dariah versus Jacob Malkoon. Wow.

Is that middleweight? That might be the number one contender fight for the middleweightiest middleweight title. Derive versus Jacob Malcoun, that is incredibly middleweight. People need to stop matching up Jacob Malcun on the show because every time they do, my brain shuts down. It's not an insult of Jacob Malcun at all. But boy, if you want to talk about someone who has an anti-highlight reel. How many times he fought in the UFC now? A bunch.

Five or six probably? Four, five. Four, five? No way. There's no way it's more than four. You're lying to me. Let's find out. No,

these, he's, uh, where is he? Where's Mal Coon? Five. What? How?

Yeah. All at middleweight. Was there a random light heavyweight fight in there? Am I crazy? Was it all a middleweight? It's all a middleweight. All middleweight. Remember he debuted against Phil Haas at four and no and just got absolutely,

I mean, that was a brutal knockout. He's three and two. He has a winning UFC record. And a lot of people thought he beat Brendan Allen at UFC 275. A lot of people thought he won that fight. I don't. but he's good.

Jacob Malkoon, this is on me, by the way. I'm not making fun of you. This is, I'm ignorant. I have him of the 60-some middleweights currently on the O.C. roster, I have him ranked like 38th, which seems so disrespectful. So, Jake Malkoon, whatever, he has a fight booked, I'm pretty sure. Prove me wrong, sir. Prove me wrong.

Become a top 10 contender and shove it in my face and put out a video or something, slamming me, in the so-called M.A. Media because he does not have a fightbooked. I thought he did. Because I just, man, every time someone books fight with him, and I'm like, I'm just like, sure. I'm not against any. You can match him up with the guy in the top 10. I wouldn't like that. I don't know. I just, Jacob Malcun. Macy Barber versus Tracy Cortez. I believe Cortez just had surgery. I don't know if it's hand surgery or arm surgery or something like that. So she's going to be out for a minute. So, I mean, Macy's going to take some time off. Sure.

Nate Landware, Alex Cesaris, a rebooking. another home Pena. What do you think of this, AK? Marlon Vera versus Cody Garbrant. Uh, man, I don't, it's, I, I'm speechless, first of all, clearly. I don't want to bring this up because I don't want us to fight again, Mike. I'm trying to compare it, like, in my head to the Davidson Figurado matchup. Uh, I, it's, no, it's still bad.

No, it's bad. It's bad. If I don't like the figgy matchup, I certainly don't like that Cheeto matchup. Yeah, this is worse to me. Yeah, okay,

no, let's not do it. Let's not do it. But Mike, if you, because if you are in favor of him fighting someone, like, you know,

more up, like I said, getting sort of the last bit of star power we can out of Cody. Are you okay with him fighting Cheeto? No. Okay. Cheeto would eat that. Yeah,

I don't like that fight. I don't like that fight. The figgy one, I don't mind because he's a flyway going up to Banim weight. Like, Cody could win. Like, it's not out of the realm of possibility. I don't think Cody has much of a chance of beating Cheeto.

And I think he would get badly hurt in that fight. I don't know if Figgie would badly hurt him. I don't know. I just feel better about the Ficky fight. I need to, that was just my first thought. Can we start banning Garbrand picks? I just don't.

I guess he has to fight somebody, but anyway. Well, he called out Ronnie Ayah to do it again. I know Roniya is fighting Montel Jackson next. so maybe that's going to be there for him. And then he mentioned something about the UFC possibly targeting Dominic Cruz rematch for July, but I don't know what it is. People just throw things out there, and there's like no legs to any of them from conversations I have.

So I don't know. We'll see what happens. I would not complain about that fight at all if that's what they decide to do. John Ray, do you guys know what the quality. qualifications are to be a Texas MMA judge because I'm free on the weekends. Giles versus Fialio, that actually might not be a bad one. I like that. That might take the middle weightiness out of Trevin Giles.

Canadian versus Darren. Trevin Giles, much as I'm like making fun of that fight. He's not looking bad at Walter White. He's not looking amazing. He's actually looking all right. I thought he lost that fight for being honest, but it was very, very close. not a robber. Did you, did you, were you, were you aware of the no-bets barred chat GPT? I was. It was so close. I had to summarize for people really quickly. If you didn't listen to

no-bets bard with Jed Michoud and Connor Brooks last week, Jed introduced a new gimmick where he input, he simply input Trevin Giles versus Preston Parsons. And I guess, I don't know how chat GBT works, like, I don't know, UFC fight, whatever, and had it sort of write a story for the fight. And chat GPT wrote like Preston Parsons and Trevent-Giles and I have a back-and-forth fight with Preston Parsons submitting, eventually wearing Giles down and winning by submission. And if you watch that fight, it was a back-and-forth battle, and there were like two occasions where Preston Parsons almost submitted Trevin Giles. So I am not interested in bowing down to our robot overlords just yet. But that's scary.

That freaked me out, Mike. That freaked me out. And, guys, tune in to No Bet Spard a week from now for the peer review picks for USC 287, because I think the chat GPT might make another appearance. And I don't know. This time it might hit because it was scary how close it was to actually predicting how that fight would go. Very, very close. John also liked Panada versus Darren Elkins.

That actually makes a lot of sense, considering where they're both at in their careers. Dariah versus Phil Haas. Landware versus Feeley Whoa, well hold on, hold on Dariya They fought right? No, I might be thinking of someone else

No I might be thinking of someone else I was thinking of who on this card fought I went down a weird rabbit hole And came upon someone fighting for us No, they didn't fight, they didn't fight They didn't fight, okay Nate Land War versus Andre Feeley, AK

What do you think about that? Yeah, rebooked I mean, wait, that was supposed to happen, right? This is a rebooking, right? No, they never match up. I thought they actually fought for some reason. I'm getting mixed up with Daniel Paneda. No.

I like that. Yeah, I like it. I got a lot of that. Sorry, I saw a lot of people recommending that one. That's why it looks so familiar. I think I got at least like four or five people sending that one in. Cheeto versus the Song Yodong,

Ricky Simone winner. And want to get your thoughts on this one, Macy Barber versus Lauren Murphy. Again, yeah, this kind of, listen, this kind of goes with what I've been saying. I want to see her fighting sort of the, the more experienced guard of flyweight. So if it's Jennifer Maya,

if it's Lauren Murphy, if it's in my case, I pick Jojo. All these makes sense. I saw some people, Mike, possibly recommending a Chukagianing is in store for Macy Barber.

I don't know how you... I'm a feeling that's coming up. I don't know how you... I don't know how you feel about that. Is it too... Is it too soon? Or is she a good matchup for Caitlin Chikian? No, do not book that fight.

very strongly against Mike no nope they're trying to build her up like don't throw her in there maybe she wins what if she gets chute then like

that's 0 for 2 she's 20 trying to push her up the ladder she's 24 years old a little chukagianing is not going to ruin her career I think I think I think I think more I think listen I don't even know if I should joke about this

I'm not going to. I was going to tie it in some joke about Holly Holie Holm. But listen, I feel the problem with the youth of America today, Mike, is they don't get Chukagian enough. And maybe we'd all be better people if we were experienced, had a little Chukagianing when we were growing up. So if that should happen, I wouldn't be against it. I don't think it's next. I do think they fight at some point. I'm not against it.

Look, here's a deal. with this situation and I'm not a wine drinker or anything like that I don't know anything about it but I do know that there are certain wines that once you pop it open you have to let the tannins breathe

for a while and you have to let it and you have to be patient with it but then eventually if you wait that amount of time and then you finally pour the glass and you drink it you get the best of it

and it comes at the perfect time that's how I would look at this fight if you don't wait for the tannins to do their thing it's just going to taste like shit. So let's not do it now. Let's wait to the tannins, do their tannining, and then we book that fight.

A la, let Macy Barber get like two or three more wins. Then we season her with some chook, and we'll go from there. I am a mate. I can't believe you just broke out tannins on our show. How dare you? How dare you? That's the best way to describe.

I'm not saying it should never happen, but we've got to be patient. We got to, We can't just pour the boat. We gotta wait. We gotta wait a minute. That was amazing. Let's go to J.D.

Felt. UFC should avoid Texas like Derek Lewis, but they will probably double down and build an apex there now. Alex Perez should be considered to get caught. I understand this occupants was avoidable. All right. But as Jedmishu said, if you run into assholes all day long,

maybe you're the asshole. Okay, first of all. JD, I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here. I think J.D. felt you said, right? Yes. I think J.D. called into your show recently. I don't know if you recall this. And I think he said he was celebrating like a month of sobriety or something.

So first I want to say, JD, and if I'm wrong on this, I'm just embarrassed and making ass myself. But, J.D., if that was you first of all, I want to say congratulations. That is incredible stuff. So big claps for you, sir. And for everyone out there fighting that battle, I think that's just amazing. I have so much admiration for everyone who does that. But now I got to address this Alex Perez thing. So I also had this from, who else brought this up?

I wanted to name them and give them, quote, unquote, credit. Oh, Thomas Collins, Thomas. Sorry, Thomas. I might not get to your picks today, but also predicted Alex Perez will get cut. You kind of have to look at the history, though, of how his fights fell through, right? Don't you agree, Mike? Like, a lot of these were not his fault. I mean, yeah, right?

Yeah. All right, let's break it down, because I said I would earlier in the show. Let's bring it down. This one, medical issue. He says not tied to his weight cut. I know some people are still insisting that was the case. We don't know. People were not doctors.

Very well could be tied to the weight cut, but it could be something unrelated altogether. These fighters put their bodies through frigging hell. So whatever it is, again, we just hope Alex Perez is okay. But sure, this was on the Alex Perez side. UFC 284. He was supposed to fight Kai Kara France. Kikara-France injury.

That wasn't him. He withdrew Perez from the Amira-Al-Bazi fight. So there you go. There's a Perez one. Ascar-Av. UFC on ABC 3 last July, Ascarov withdrew. So that's not on Perez.

The match now was, I think, both, he missed, the most recent booking, Perez missed weight. That sucks totally on him. Before that, Schnell had a medical concern. Before that, there was a rescheduling.

Before that, there was Perez withdrawal. So that's two Perez withdrawals in the Matchchel saga, if you want to keep track there. He was also supposed to spite Ascarov two jolies ago. And that was also felt due

because of Ascarov. And then, Then Brandon Moreno, if people want to throw this one into this stretch of bad luck, it's because Perez was rebooked to fight Figurato on that same card to replace Cody Garbrant. So it looks, if you're just looking at the topology, it's an amazing visual, credit topology, of course, for keeping track of all this stuff. It's an amazing visual seeing all these gray seas under Alex Perez's name. And many of these were his fault, but many of these were not.

So I don't think he should be cut. I really don't think he should be cut. And he's a very good fighter, so I don't know why the UFC would want to lose him. But I think, I don't know. I don't know if you just bump him to 35, just for a fight. I don't know. He says it's not weight cut related. He says everything was fine from that end.

But it's just, I don't know. I don't think you should be cut, though. I don't, listen, when one of your recent fights, again, the final match to Chanel booking was canceled because of a weight cut, you can understand why people are skeptical, right? Why people are making assumptions. Again, we don't know. I will remind people we don't know. It's purely speculation if you're going down that road.

But the suspicion has and the criticism has a base to it, you know. He also likes Home versus Tate 2. Luser throws a retirement party for the winner and then follow suit. I'm into that. There we go. I'm into that. Did she look incredible? She's very good.

We know how good she is. I mean, did Yanna Santos basically just give her the fight by the way she fought? Can I reveal one more bet I made? Oh, no. I bet home by knockout. Five dollars. Home by decision was the easiest bet on this higher car. First of all, the generals were due, as I always like to stay in these situations.

I thought the generals were due. Secondly, Yana Santos doesn't lose by decision generally. She says one loss by decision. I'm aware Holly Holm has not, had not finished a fight in seven years? I think still, it's now seven years going. The classic Bechkeheya knockout was her last knockout. I just thought, and for the record, I was, there was a moment at the end of round two.

She was really pouring on that ground and pound. And I was like, oh my God, like this is going to be, I'm going to have a little money in my pocket and some bragging rights. if this is a TKO. But Holly Holie Holm, always favoring position over damage. And wisely so. She won the fight. Listen, no, I'm not hating her strategy. But I was almost hoping she'd just try to open up a little more on the ground and finish

that fight. She did what she'd have to win, get that winner's check. But, man, I wasn't that far off, Mike. I swear I wasn't that far off. I stand by the bet. I sprinkled $5 on it. I have no regrets. It's funny you brought up the general.

Seven years ago, as we record, I actually played four. or the generals against the Harlem Gold Trotters, AK. Oh, that's so cool. Guest appearance from the radio station days. Did you get a name? Did you get like a nickname? No, it was double zero. I hit a three, and then I shot a free throw,

and then they gave me a Goldblitz Trier's jersey, and they trotted my happy ass off the court after like two minutes of playing. Oh, that's so cool, though. It was very cool, but it was literally like seven years ago today. I just look at the memory on Facebook. Todd, Cheeto versus Peter Yan. Gerard, Cheeto versus Jan three rounds to force them to start fast. I like the thinking.

I like the thinking. I did see people recommending Cheeto and Jan. I guess I'm just in a, I'll mention one of my, one of our listeners here, Chris Martin, who said, both guys, similar situations where they should be close to a tell of shot with their winner two, but due to recent losses, find themselves behind several contenders. Yeah, and that's the one thing I think that scares. me a little is, let's say Yon lost. Does this knock him out of title contention forever?

It sounds weird to say because he's only 30, but that would be four losses in five fights, right? And again, all these losses need context other than the Morab fight. It's not like Yon has looked bad in any of these fights. But yeah, sorry, so he's already it. Three straight, four out of five already. If he lost to Chito, that would be four straight, five out of six. and he's only 30, but that point, man, I don't know what that does to your confidence, what that does to the matchmaker's confidence in you.

Cheeto could probably take the loss a little better, but even then, man, seeing him on a two-fight losing streak and knocked even further down contention is kind of hurts. So I don't know. It sounds silly to want to protect these guys, but I do kind of want to protect them by, you know, not matching them up together. Let's see what else is. Great, maybe a bang or fight, though. I mean, listen, I mean, a amazing fight.

Landward, Kulabow. He's with me on Barbara Arousjo, Dariah versus Murdof, Pineda versus Brito, Alexander versus Woodson, Giles versus Fakradinoff, Vergara Nam, Alta-Berano, Clayson Rodriguez. Let's see if Toby's got anything new and exciting here. Landware versus Brito, which is really fun. He likes Barbara Maya, Dariah F. Malkun,

Giles, Muneer-Lazzo. as Vergara versus Jake Hadley. That's fun. Yeah. Alta Marano versus Filo? Oh, yeah, yeah. What's his name? The guy who I have posed, which is Jeff L.

Mahamah High is like. Yeah. A couple more. Chris London. Vera versus Simone. Did not, this is where the kind of doo-do comes in. Did not stress out that he's booked against Song Yudong April 22nd. Peneda versus Lucas Alexander

Barbara Barbara versus Chukagian Tannins baby Tannins I've seen people suggesting it I'm just it's out there Drive Jung Jung Park In Jokawani versus Puna Soriano

Giles versus Carlson Harris Vergara Hadley again El Tamerano Filiio Another one Manel Kopp versus Kai Kar-Frans Do Doe KKF booked against Amir al-Bazi June 3rd

Come on now You're better than that Robbie Ryan Sanhagen versus O'Malley. Surely Sean can't sit out for a year and expect to be given a title fight. Who does he think he is? Colby Covington. Well played. Holm. versus Pena. Women's 135 is criticized a lot lately, mainly due to inactivity between top 10 fighters, in my opinion. Why isn't Vieira versus Aldana been booked? I don't know. No, no clue.

Landwehr versus Casares, rebook it. Macy, Barbara, Lauren Murphy, Angi, Amanda Hebas. I included Lee because I thought she won. Drya versus the Anthony Hernandez Edmund Chabazzian winner. Wildcard, Lucas Alexander versus Jamal Emmer's.

P.S., how the hell is the main event a split decision that judge should be deported? Wow. All right. I mean, people are just, I mean, strong feelings for a car that Shabat evokes such strong emotions. A.K., you're up.

All right, all right. I'll run through some of these quickly. Our pal is Tristan Gordet. Just got some suggestions. here. He also likes Barbara and O'Neill. He says, got to weed out the top prospects. This fight makes sense in my opinion. So he's going a different direction than I am. He wants to see

sort of fighters in the same sort of stream. Like I said, I'm rather, I'm kind of putting Macy against fighters who were more experienced fighters who were maybe trending in the other direction. But Casey O'Neill would make a lot of sense. Trevin Jals, Rosandrefielia. We mentioned that one. Paneda, Mike Trezano,

Lucas Alexander, Gabriel Santos. Thank you, Tristan. Garrett Tremel says, Marab definitely takes the Sanhagan callout. The level of wholesome and cringe was right up that team's alley. Marab wins, though. Then if Aljo loses, I see Marab going for Henry

and Aljone Sanhagen running it back at 145 shooting my yearly Otno shot. I had someone else mentioned... I think I had to get to this later. Yeah, yeah, okay. I had someone else mention Corey Possum moving up to 145. I will get to that in a moment. And Matt...

C.G. Vergara Clayton... Matt Bradbury, I believe this is. CJ Vergara Clayton Carpenter. What do we like here? Dariah versus Makbun Muradov. Sure, I'm okay with that. Nate Land Rover versus Josh Kulabow and a bunch of other picks we already have. Thank you, Matt.

And let's go to the Twitter machine here. Should I open with this or end with this? Let's end with that. Mike, you mentioned Jonathan Martinez earlier. How do you feel about Alex McAdams' suggestion of Jonathan Martinez versus Cheeto Vera? Interesting. Possible. Possible.

Big test for TBS TV. TSP TV. God, that's a fun fight, though. It is. Could happen. I'm not ruling it out. And you know what? And I want to say I like what Cheeto is.

As much as I criticize his I'll fight anyone thing, that's kind of how he keeps himself relevant. Like after he fought, Aldo. He wasn't like, oh, well, I just want to stick to fighting ranked guys. He went back, fought Davy Grant's. Then he got, I think, ranked at the time, Frank Yeager, then Rob fought Domino Cruz. But he went back and he went back. He went back and fought someone who was, I would say, well behind him in the rankings with respect to Davy Grant. It was their second time fighting, too. So, you know, he got to avenge a loss. This is, that's why I like the Song Yodong

fight, too. You know, when you get that loss, go back, take care of some unfinished business, go take a step back in the rankings a little bit and start rebuilding. So Jonathan Martinez would be interesting. I don't think it happens. But I don't think it happens, but I I like the suggestion. Mr. Guy M.MA and Dragon Slayer 2 on Twitter. Both liked Nate Landware versus Charles Jodin. Excellent pick. I like it.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Oh, no. What's going on? Jordan's books. Yeah, against Crone Gracie. Oh, God. Oh, God.

I totally forgot that if I was out. New Jersey, right? This is part of the May 9th card, the paper view. Yeah, May. Oh, well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's a couple of bags of doo-do who headed your way at Mr. Guy M.A. and at Dragon Slayer 2.

My bad. I totally forgot about that. So, guys, sorry, I shouldn't have read it on the air. But there you go. Now you know. Hayes Betherd. Holm, solid performance. I think she'll probably have to fight down since she's fought a lot of top of the division. I'll go with Panny Kianzad. I like the matchup, but Holm never has to fight down. They love her. She'll get a top five fight anytime she wants. Nate Landwer, I don't really feel like he's earned a ranked guy from meritocracy standpoint. How dare you? But I just want to find fun fights for him.

is becoming the perfect guy to just throw on a fight night main card to make it more interesting. What that said, Dan Ike. I thought about that. I thought about that fight. I like it. Yeah. C.G. Vergara, wow, would have come back. The first time I've seen someone running really seeming to work.

There must be, I'm trying, there must be other examples. But yeah, it's not a great strategy normally. And he'll also go with the Jimmy Flick, Alessandro Costa winner. Let's end with Barry O'Reilly. Barry, thank you for arrest. message as always and a lot of well-written thoughts here. Trevin Giles versus Mike Malott was, was Giles at one stage considered a prospect and was even entertaining or am I remembering incorrectly?

He definitely was considered a prospect. He's not not entertaining. He's just like, he's just has sometimes, it depends on the matchups. Sometimes he gets to the matchups that are like, again, very middleweighty. And even though he's a welterweight, they're still very middle weighty. Yeah. Big difference in UFC experience here. But I think the prospect, Mike Malati, means, has a very good chance of winning.

especially after Milat won a grappling match not too long ago. That's right. He beat Giles at a Fury grappling competition. Lucas Alexander versus Lucas Almeida and just a lot of hashtags here. Lucas versus Lucas hashtag Luke at us. Nice. Okay. Hashtag L.A.

versus L.A. hashtag Lala Land. Bear, you got to pick one. You got to pick one. I guess we're going to go with Luke at us as much as I hate it. Daniel Paneda versus Jack Shore, Mike. A nice veteran test for Jack Shore against someone who is similar to him. him. I don't know how similar there. Okay. Good standing, good on the ground. If he can beat Paneda, then he, if he can beat Paneda, then he sure deserves a crack at the top 20. Why did I read this? Great stuff. Why did I read this? I screen these on purpose. Why did I read this?

Dariah versus Bo Nicol. I actually really loved that matchup. If I hadn't already matched up Bo Nickel on a previous show, I actually think that's really good. And I think Bo Nickel annihilates him. No, too soon. Too soon. Too soon. All right. Macy, Barbara, Jennifer Maya, both on a streak. Big test. Former Talas Challenger should be up next for Barber.

Sure. There's a great lot of spit. Nate versus Giga Chikaze. Nate the train. So much fun, both during and after his fights, probably will never be a contender. How dare you again? People, I am not hearing this.

He still deserves a top 15 opponent. This fight is guaranteed fun. The winner gets a lot of hype either way. I love it. Giga has been sort of saying, in interviews like, hey, I'm ready to fight again. Let's get an opponent. That Landward wants a piece of that.

I guarantee it. Dude, that might be, that might be the right answer. That's really good. That might be the right answer. I know Gig is calling for zombie and all that. God, Landward, Gigan might be the way to go. That might be the fight.

I like it. Well, let's see how you feel. I got two more. Let's say how you feel with the last one. The next one I'll say, he said is a Barry calls it a bonus. Manal Kot, for his time. at sorrow Tyra. Cop wants to fight again soon.

Tyra's a good choice. Most of the other top 15 matched up or injured. Mike's shaking his head. Might seem like a big step up for Tyra in terms of U.S.C. opponents. Way too big. There isn't a huge gap in the quality opponents, no matter who wins this. Hey, you just lost on on Alex Perez, but Al. You know what we're going to do?

We're going to send you back outside of the top 15 to fight this murderer on the way up. Not saying cop can't win, but God. Listen, he's the, he's the, he's the illiterative assassin. all right he's got to take out all these guys at some point i have no issue with it o de osborne o o z z zagazamagulov d david devorak t tzotara might be next i don't hate it i don't hate it and we'll end on this mike corey sanhagen versus brian ortega hold on let me finish let berry finish so this is more of an on to the next next one pick the marav fight will happen next I don't see Corey being able to stop Maraub's pressure and takedowns over the course of 15 or 25 minutes. He's 511, can easily afford to pack on some muscle and move up to 145 after his title hopes at 35 are dashed by the Georgian.

A matchup against the well-rounded and tough Ortega would be a banger and a shitty win would then make Corey a fresh contender and a fresh division. I'll just say right away, I don't necessarily agree that he can easily pack on some muscle. I think he's at his ideal weight class. but Mike I don't know what do you think of next next one pick Sanhagen Ortega you're making a face I'm thinking I don't think it happens but be a pretty intriguing fight to watch those two guys but I would actually pick Corey Sanhagen to win that phone oh I think I'd have to look into him more but I Ortega like Ortega is obviously great on the ground but he's not like

like a great striker and sanhagen would just kind of like move circles around him yeah that's the that's a big issue yeah so i mean that'd be an interesting fight to watch i don't think it happens but i like the outside of the box thing i like it better than men i'll cop versus tutsura tyra i'm i'm glad i ended on that one instead then but uh thank you guys thank you everyone for the excellent picks please keep sending them in uh two weeks from now we'll we'll have a paper view so mike i don't know do we Are we going to do ask us anything this week? Maybe take the weekend off? Probably not.

We'll probably take the weekend off. But guys, look, there's a lot of combat sports next week. We got, Joshua, we got WrestleMania. We got... Mazvedal.

Mazvedal boxing. PFL's back. Bellator. The return to PFL. We got Bellator with the Bizarro UFC San Antonio type of card where the, like the main event is awful, but the rest of the card is really good.

So there's a lot going on. We can take a week off because we'll be back live the following week, following UFC 287. And by the way, some breaking news. A new microphone is coming in. Hello. It'll be here Monday. My new travel mic. So I don't have to do these shows on the road using the headphones that I'm currently wearing right now.

So if there's, you know, some singers or family reunions going on around me or anything of nature, we'll be able to make the audio at least sound much better. So get excited for that. But we will be recapping UFC 287 from a matchmaking perspective. Of course, Alex Pereira versus Israel Adasania, middleweight title fight, Gilbert Burns, Jorge Mazadol, Rob Fon, Adrian Yanez, Raul Roses, Rola Roses, Jr., Christian Rodriguez, Kevin Holland, Santiago, Panzanibio, Cynthia Calvillo, Lupi Godinez, Michelle Watterson Gomez, Juana Pinero.

It still says Ignacio Bahamandes versus Nicholas Moser. But Moda has announced that he is off the card. So we'll see if Bahamandai's remains. Steve Garcia versus Shilin, Nerden Becca, Calvin Gaslm, Chris Curtis, Gerald Mirchard, Joe Pfeiffer, Michael Kiesa, Lee Jingleong, Sam Hughes versus Jacqueline Amarim, and Chris Barnett versus Chase Sherman. That is UFC 287, people.

And we're excited to talk about it. Exciting stuff. I just want to say, I didn't, I was going to, I was going to run down where to send in picks. But I need to remind people, you can, but you don't, it would be better if you don't send in listener picks

to us after a pay-per-view. And if you want to just get them so I have them, you know, save, that's fine. But again, the likelihood of them getting read out, we're going to do a live show, as always, after that pay-per-view. So probably not get to too many listener picks. So I was like, please refrain, save your brilliant picks

for the week after. I want to say there probably is another card after. Of course there is April 15th. Or just like when we build the link, just put the picks right in the chat. Put them right in the comments. Right in the chat. Oh, for sure.

Yeah. Oh, exactly, exactly. Exactly. We hear people sell the time that like, oh, I, you know, the time zone doesn't work out. Listen, yeah, put them in the chat. We usually put, we usually, it's out there. You can go to our MA Fighting's YouTube and usually the,

there's a schedule to go out and you can leave comments. comments there. So we'll try it. We'll try and check some of them. The post is built. Before the payview starts, the post is ready. Like, if the streaming link is ready to go, so just go right to the comments, throw them in the chat. We'll do our best to. There's your, there's your pay-view. Yeah, there's your pay-view tips. Stay out of our DMs after a pay-per-view, slide into our YouTube comment.

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