MMA Fighting - On To The Next One: Matches To Make After UFC Vegas 105

Episode Date: April 6, 2025

Lerone Murphy didn’t deliver the most memorable performance—and it certainly wasn’t the most memorable card—but most importantly, the British featherweight contender is still undefeated after outpointing Josh Emmett in Saturday’s UFC Vegas 105 main event. Did Murphy’s victory move the needle or does he somehow sink further into matchup limbo? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting’s Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee discuss how Murphy can continue working his way towards a 145-pound championship shot as the division looks ahead to the vacant title bout between Alexander Volkanovski and Diego Lopes this Saturday. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for Pat Sabatini after flawlessly executing his gameplan against Joanderson Brito, debutants Chang Ho Lee and Torrez Finney, plus veteran winners Brad Tavares, Ode Osbourne, and more. Follow Mike Heck: @m_heckjr Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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it was the loudest the apex has probably ever been, but most of because they were angry that they had to sit through that fight card. My God, my God, everybody, but we do have to put a bow on this. And the good news is it is officially UFC 314 fight week, but before we have to officially turn the page, we have to discuss the fallout from this event because this is the last time any media company is probably going to talk about UFC Vegas 105. So a historic show right here, wherever you find your favorite podcast.

I am Mike Haken joining me as always. And boy, I hope the Prince of Positivity has a lot to bring to the table today. The co-host, the co-matchmaker, my best friend, the great's Alexander Kaylee. How are we doing, AK? My best friend, do you put a bow on a piece of poop? Because I don't where I come from. I don't know if that's a, that's a. that's a like a ritual that I'm not familiar with.

We had a little, we should tell people, we had like just right, really just now had a kind of a pre-show vent. Some things which we can, we'll probably can repeat on the show, some things which we can't. And, you know, and I'm glad we did because I want to, you know,

we want to have some sort of positivity going into this. Like we don't want to just come in slamming the card. I'm sure there was enough of that last night on the post-fight show. But yeah, I think anyone who saw this is rightfully, anyone who had to sit through this card, which is not a lot of people. You know, I'm sure most people are, you know, not like us. They could just tune into certain fights. They could just tune into the main card. Like, there was ways to watch this and not be sort of as frustrated or sort of irritated as we are.

But, like, just the nature of this card is just so the way it was put together. Just the cycle, the cycle of events that we are currently in. and thank goodness we do a pay-per-view on Saturday. Very, very good-looking pay-per-view. It's exhausting. You know, it is good, exhausting to a point. This one looked bad on paper. We, I did not give it a pre-rating.

I don't even want to go back and think about what it would have been. It looked bad on paper. It was pretty poor on execution. Usual disclaimer. This is not a criticism of the fighters. But it's just like anything, guys. It's like if you are being a, you know, if you follow any other sports, If you are being fed a substandard product, you have a right to complain.

You have a right to complain. It's if I think, I think, you know, like everyone else, I'm a big basketball fan. I think the end of the NBA season is a perfect example, where teams are resting players or teams like the Toronto Raptors, for example, are tanking, are just blatantly tanking, rolling out G-leaguers. As a fan, you're not going to go like, well, oh, well, you know, it's still the NBA and not every game is going to be the best and it's okay. I pay, you know, actually if you paid money to go there, it's okay. I don't know, you know, I'm glad they put that we should respect all the guys who are out there in the court. And it's true. And you should do that.

You should do you should do that. But it doesn't mean you can't go like, wow, this is a bull crap product that is being rolled out for me. And this is kind of what we're getting with some of these impact guys. You are allowed to complain. And at the same time, you're not being disrespectful. I don't feel like you're being disrespectful to the talus involved. They're, you know, getting their opportunities. God bless them.

But you have to be fair to the viewer as well. You have to be fair and honest with your fans. And these are, again, these are not great cards. There's not great matchups. And this played out on Saturday. But, you know, congrats to all the winners. And congrats to even the people who didn't, guys who didn't win. Because it gained their chance to fight in the UFC.

But this is bad. This was a poor effort. And if people didn't watch it, and if they don't ever plan to watch it, you are, there's no shame in that. They put this card literally during the final four, both games. The prelim started. Yeah. Before the, the prelim started when the first Final Four game started.

And it, the main. card happened right when the second game started and no one watched this card. The second Final Four game is one of the craziest endings in Final Four history. Houston beating Duke like that, like an epic collapse. Like you think anybody's talking about Lorone Murphy in his workman-like decision in the sports world over what happened? I will say this, though. If the UFC cared at all about this card, they would have been like, why would I

put this card going on as the final four is happening. This should have been a, and I know it's a little uncomfortable for the fighters to start fighting at 10 a.m. in Las Vegas, but this is a 1 p.m. prelim 4 p.m. main card, if there ever was one. And they just don't care. They're just taking that money from ESPN and they're putting in their bank account and they just don't care right now. This reminds me of, I remember it was the 2012 Major League Baseball season. And I was very excited about the Boston Red Sox. So excited to a point, as were most of Red Sox fans, that I bought my father tickets for his birthday, which was in March.

I bought him tickets for an August game because I knew their socks were in the midst of a playoff run. They spent all this money. They had Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez and great pitching staff and all this stuff. Literally, the game I bought tickets for was August 26, 2012. You want to know what happened August 25th, 2012, AK? The Red Sox were so bad that they traded everybody the day before the game. They traded Josh Beckett. They traded Carl Crawford.

They traded Adrian Gonzalez. They traded Nick Punto. They traded half of their roster. They gave, they traded like a quarter of a million dollars worth of salary the day before the game me and my dad went to. We still went. We sat in our seats. We had a great time. but we watched the

we watched the Patucket at Red Sox It doesn't like we had we had fun But it was terrible And we spent and I spent good money on those tickets Red Sox tickets aren't cheap even in 2012 And it was just the same thing I was just like golly man Like

It's not negative if we want It doesn't even have to be greatness every week Just give us some good Try That's not negative That's just wanting you to try and the tough part about the sport and the UFC just taking it over is that they don't have to look over their shoulders at all.

PFL beat them this week. It was a better card. People would rather watch PFL one than this card on the watchback. Without question. There is a case, and I was joking about this in Slack, but there is a legitimate case that what we saw last night was one of the 10 worst cards in UFC history. And again, it's not because of the fighters.

Yeah. No. If we dug deep, it probably isn't. But right now, off the top of our heads, we can make that case. And some of this is, like, we're just like, well, this is the era. This is what we're in. Like, not all could be great. But come on, man.

Try. Just try. And I beg of the UFC. And I beg of all the partners, the TV rights people who are making this play for the UFC. Do less cards. I'm telling you right now, do less cards. If you still want to do the in the mighty apex, fine. But just do less cards.

And I understand the argument. Well, the UFC has to do this and put on this many cards because of their roster. No, they don't. No, they don't. They don't have to sign 50 fighters off the contender series. But 75% of them are not UFC caliber. They're not ready for this. They're not ready for the bright lights.

Even of the bright lights of the apex, they're just not ready. And there are options. There's PFL. There's regional shows, it's LFA. Like, I would rather it go back to 2016 where it was less cards, but every card in 2016 was good. Every one of them. We were excited about everything. Now we're just like, I just don't, I just wish fans, especially the newer ones, can understand what life was like back in that era.

Where it's just like, oh, I can't, it was never, it was very rarely, if ever, oh, I can't wait for this fight night card to be over because of the. pay-per-view next week. We were just like, yeah, this fight night card rocks, and then we got the paper view next week. There was so much to be excited about. And now it's just, we're just throwing darts and we're just, the whole time was just like, hey, solid main event on paper with high stakes. Rest of the card we could have done without. Like, I'm sure there could be fine fights. I'm glad the fighters are getting paid and all that stuff. But as a fan and you're looking at stakes and storyline and all that stuff and what these fights mean, they don't mean really a whole hell of a lot outside of getting the second paycheck.

But now we get to turn the page of UFC 314. But I'm sorry, again, I'm not trying to be negative. But again, this is where it's at right now. The UFC can, the UFC's on fire. They can go to St. Louis, this market they haven't been to in forever, and give you a Derek Lewis versus Rodrigo Nassimento main event, which is horrific. It's a horrific main event on paper. And then expect fans to spend $250 to like $5,000.

to go to the event. And guess what happens? They sell it out. You all buy tickets. You can't wait to give them your hard-earned money. And then they sell it out and they break all the gate records. And then the UFC says, we don't have to change anything because everyone's still buying tickets to these events. It is an experience and everybody should try it once.

And I totally understand that. But I'm sorry. Demanding them to try and hoping they try is not negativity. Just try. Just try. And I feel like we've been saying this for three years. But right now, this product is so watered down, AK. It's so tough.

It's just really hard. Three things. First, I think you summed it up beautifully with the whole Red Sox trade thing. And I tried to do it with the sort of the tanking, you know, NBA teams tanking. And so trotting out a product thing is like you can criticize the organization. And it doesn't mean you're critiquing the guys on the court or the guys in the field or the guys and gals. and cows in the octagon. You can absolutely do that.

Okay, this is just, again, think, I want you to think about how Mike framed it and how he's not calling out those minor leaguers and replacement players that got put into those spots. He's calling out what the organization did before he was going to a game that he'd already paid tickets for us. So think about it that way. The next time you're thinking like, it's one and the same saying,

oh, well, if you're criticizing the organization, you're crapping in the fighters. I think Mike, I don't like to compare other sports to UFC. I say, to M.A. I say this all the time. But that analogy is, I think it's pretty, strong. And it's a pretty strong analogy. Regarding the amount of events, like, it just sucks out. I think we've opened this door

and we can't go back. Now, if they end up on a streaming service, it might. It's possible. Because right now, because it's on, you know, it's on television, it's on ESPN, this is an ESPN event, especially. There is like a block of time they wanted, that whoever you're working with a network would love to be able to fill. They'd love to know, oh, we have four, five, six hours filled up on this block. Boom. You just saved us a whole lot of programs. programming headache. So I understand why they've gone through that door. Kind of like with, again, any other post-port where like you'll never see a reduction in

this season pretty much ever again. Because one, again, it's a block of viewership, guarantee block of viewership, three hours, handled, ads sold, no problem. And two, you know, it's live gates. So, I mean, this is like attendance. Arenas. Arenas love seasons, teams having, you know, 82 game seasons, whatever, because, oh, that's one night booked off.

Don't have to worry about filling the venue there. It's booked off. So that's such thing. We've got through it. But if it's on a streaming service, you don't necessarily have to do a weekly event. Again, I don't know what kind of benchmarks that those companies have to hit. Like maybe there is still like, oh, we want to have X amount of hours of content every week. But I have to imagine, it's a little more flexible.

So, so yeah, I hope that's the case. Because Mike, as you kind of put it, like, we've gone from maybe there was a time when it made sense where they had so many fighters. They're like, well, it's good. We have more events. We can accommodate them all. And now it's tilted so far the other way where we're, we've been. have so many events, now we need to keep signing as many bodies as possible to fill at the events. It's just so backwards. It's so backwards, right? And the last thing is,

like, if you're going to have events to the apex, like, the attendance thing almost doesn't, it clearly doesn't even matter because, like, it's not even like you're serving arenas. It's not even like you're serving venues. You're literally just serving this content monster. And that's just such a sad way to look at, at MMA, which is, I, it's so old, what you say all the time. The M.A. Sills be fun. The M.A. Sills will be fun. Yeah. And there's nothing fun about some of the booking that we have seen with the UFC this year. Jack Slack, shout out to Jack Slack.

He put out a tweet last night. He was like, I've only seen Torres Finney in certain clips because I refuse to watch the Contender series. And he's like, but it turns out I've been watching the contender series all along. It was just so funny. I saw that. This is hilarious. What is the difference between Torres Finney fighting Robert Valentin on a UFC branded card, proper UFC branded card and fighting the contender series.

Rob Valentine, God bless him, is from the ultimate fighter. He's been fighting in the UFC Apex, right? So it's just, it's such a weird thing to sell people. And I know, I know people are saying, oh, whatever, I have an ESPN plus subscription already, or I have cable, I have ESPN anyway. I'm not paying extra. And it's like, guys, you are paying a cost. It's just, you're right.

You're not paying a daily cost every time to watch this event. You are paying a cost for this stuff, guys. You know that is baked into your subscriptions, you know? So you are paying a cost. Yeah. Look, and the last thing I'll say about this is, look, if you want to keep doing the apex cards and you still want to hold this heavy schedule and you are obligated to put on this many events, fine. But mix it up a little bit for Christ's sake. Do what Strike Force did. Strike Force had their big events, right? And then they had their challenger cards. We're just like, hey, here's eight fights that we're going to do on a random Thursday or like a Wednesday or something like that. It doesn't even have to be eight. Do you six fights. Just do six. Just do like a. Like, do five. Do it like the contender. So you're just like, hey, here's a UFC card on a random Wednesday with five fights.

You could do multiple a week. International fight. You could do like two of those in the middle of the week. That's fine. But not on a Saturday. Like, you just don't have to do it that way. Like, you can mix it up a little bit where it's a little more digestible. What was the card recently?

I think it was Cop Al-Mabaya, where it was like it ended up at like 10 fights. I think it like lost a fighter. I think it like lost a fight or two. I remember there was some card recently. recently where it was like it looked like a 12-13 fight card and by the time fighting it rolled around it was down like 10 fights and I remember that event it wasn't like an amazing event but it just kind of like it was in that sweet spot so much yeah yeah and we're like okay and a really good main event too and we're like oh okay this is how it should be and I understand people

like oh but if you if they if they if they book a 10 fight card and then oh what if again people fall off fights all the time it goes down to eight or seven fights that's cool that I would love to watch a seven-fight a UFC Apex card on a Saturday that starts at at noon or 2 p.m. or 3 p.m., or 4 p.m. tops. I'm into it. I'm down for that. That would be great. That'd be so digestible. And yes, it would mean, okay, it would mean less fighters getting UFC shot. But I don't see how anyone can say that that's a bad thing after the last, you know, three months of program we had in 2025 so far. So people, guys, if these people are good fighters and they will get their opportunity eventually. But some people are not ready for primetime players. And that's, Okay. That is how life works. This is like saying, oh, man, everyone who picks up a basketball and plays in college or played overseas or, you know, it's good enough to be a pro, should be in the NBA. No, it doesn't work that way, guys. There's limited spots for a reason.

There has to be some prestige to it. Yeah, go watch the first two seasons of contender series. I'm telling you. Oh, you were loved it. It is so different. Your favorite show. It was the best thing the UFC ever did. Your favorite show.

You praised it. You praised it. You praised it every week. You praised it. You were such an advocate. I could not wait. Yeah. I could not wait for it because there's the best dudes in the country and around the world who weren't in the UFC fighting each other.

These are like dream matchups if you were a hardcore fan. Like, imagine if they did a Titan FC versus a CES card and you could see Kurt Hollable versus Matt Passett. Like, that was the first main event of the first contender series. And you would have guys, like, you would have guys getting first round finishes and not getting contracts because they were like, promo wasn't great. Or this wasn't great. Uh, his regional, the guys he fought on the. regional scene. His level of competition wasn't where we'd like it to be, but we wanted to see

if he had something, but not ready yet. It was just the best. It was the best. There was drama, and there's no drama with Contender Series anymore. It's just like, well, if you win, or even if you're in a competitive split decision, you're getting a contract. And we know why. It's like the cards are there. Like the hand is laid out on the table for the world to see. But again, I just want to move on. I just got to get that. Yeah, we can. We can. It's a great week. But you know, again, I just want to say asking for good and asking for effort is not negative.

This is just what fans should ask. This is what everybody should want. You want to watch the best fight card the UFC could possibly put on as much as possible. And we're just not getting it this year. We're just not. We had UFC 311. Mexico was fun.

You know it's a difference in tone when you watch Mexico. Was that the best fight card on paper? Hell no. Did we think it was going to be fun heading in? We sure did. Was it fun in execution? It sure was. And the mentality behind UFC Mexico compared to UFC Vegas 105 night and freaking day. So do more of that. I don't think. Yeah. I don't think the live crowd made a difference though. Mike. I think I think Mark Shapiro was right. You know, I mean, you heard those booze for, you know, we can move right to the main event. Mike, you heard those booze for Lorone Murphy. Man, it was just like it was just like they're in a packed arena of like 18,000 people. people. It was great. I didn't, I didn't know the difference. I couldn't tell. It was a lecture. Yeah, fans can't tell. No. I mean, there's a, there's a couple of cats, because I heard from them on Twitter, but you always do. Twitter's, Twitter's awful. But let's get into it. You mentioned Lorone Murphy, beats Josh Shemit. I actually scored this fight, uh, 4946.

I could have easily scored it, uh, 5045 for Lorone Murphy. And this wasn't a blowout by any stretch of the imagination. I just think Lorone did more to win these rounds. I, thought he won the first four rounds. I gave Emmett the fifth because Lorone just kind of cruised and Emmett at least did stuff. So I gave Emmett round five there. But the card's kind of all over the place. But Lorraine Murphy remains undefeated. Biggest win of his career.

This to me was the classic good, not great from Lorone. I thought it was not taking anything away from him. It was a smart high fight IQ approach to this fight because Josh Emmett, even at 40 years old, even after a 16-month layoff is a very dangerous man. Just ask Bryce Mitchell how dangerous this man is. But if we're looking at, hey, let's make a statement and get ourselves a big fight that puts us maybe in a title eliminator or something to that nature, this is just not the performance

the Roan needs. And maybe it doesn't matter at the end of the day because winning and remaining undefeated and slowly climbing the ranks is better than having an exciting fighting, winning a fight of the night bonus and not winning the fight at all. So you can make an argument either way. But Lorone Murphy is probably in the Leon Edwards-Bel-Mohamed type of scenario right now. Mavzar Vloyf, even though I still don't think Dana White knows who Mavzar of Lov-Zar of Lov is. To this day, Lorone Murphy wins.

And when the mic was with him, he said, give me anybody in the top five, top three. I was like, oh, no, why are you doing this? And then he waits to the post-fight press conference and says, I want to fight Brian Ortega. I would finish him. So do you like that idea? And if not, where are we going with Lorone Murphy after this win? Yeah, I don't mind it. Congrats Lorraine.

Great win. I will, but I'm with you. I just can't imagine anyone making the argument that he is significantly closer to a title shot than he was before. Like, if you thought that Lauren Murphy was a worthy title contender before this fight, this didn't change your mind. if you didn't think Lorone Murphy was a worthy child contender before this fight, this didn't change your mind. That doesn't mean it's not a good win. That doesn't mean, again, that Lorone did anything bad.

It doesn't mean Josh didn't have anything bad. It just is not a fight that you're going to find particularly memorable. And again, does not move Lorone close, despite the fact that he went from a seven-fight winning streak to an eight-fight winning streak goes from undefeated in 16 fights to undefeated in 17 fights. Like, on paper, this should move you closer. I just, I would be very surprised if there's anyone out there who was like going like, yes, now, now he's done it. Now he put a stamp on a number of contender spot. No. And even he was, like you said, Mike was barely saying that.

He just said, of course, I'd love a teloshot, but top three, top five, which I think he knows is more realistic. I didn't even go that way. I think Brian Ortega is a fine choice, but I think the fact that he asked for it is going to give the, not make the matchmakers work against him, but just like, I don't think that they're, they're thinking like, oh, well, he said it. Now we have to do it. I'm going to go a little bit of a follow-up to a previous pick. So before, I wanted Jean Silva, after his last win, to fight the winner of this fight. Now, Jean Silva did the right thing kind of going after Bryce Mitchell. And I know a lot of people want to see that. And, you know, now we're getting that. We're getting that next week. So I think. think in a roundabout way now, Lorone Murphy will end up fighting the winner of that fight. Now, this gets a lot trickier if Bryce wins, because now you are throwing a man who's made some very disgusting comments lately, legitimately back into the title picture.

Because if Bryce beats John Silva and then beats Lauren Murphy, I mean, that kind of makes you, again, not in the top five, but Colosotele shot, I don't think anybody wants that right now. But again, I would expect, I don't think Bryce. beats both guys. So I think at some point he's going to trip over one of them. So I think in that sense, it works. As for Jean Silva, if he wins next week, it definitely doesn't go with Lorone's top five guy. I do wonder where people would rank Sean, I think maybe top 10. I don't think he can go much higher than like 10 or 9. But when Lorone says he wants top three or top five guy, he means he wants

someone with notoriety. And John Silva will be one of the most talked about. He already is. He beats Bryce Mitchell, which he wins by a knockout. He will be. be one of the most talked about featherweights in the division, maybe not ranked higher than Lorone. But as far as Q rating, as far as Buzz, he's already way higher than Lauren Murphy, and then he'll be too above that. So in a sense, Lorone would have a lot to gain from that matchup. So I don't think he gets his wish for a top five guy, but he could get it, again, potentially

a better matchup with John Silva. So I'll go with that. Kind of a weird follow-up to my last pick for Silva. Yeah. And I kind of talked about this in the post-fights just so I'm not going to cue the band. I 100% agree with you. I think it's the winner of this fight. If it's Mitchell, sure.

If it's Silva, it's going to force Lorone Murphy to have it, you know, what I'm imagining about? And it's not like Lorone is a, like, boring fighter. He beat the shit out of Edson Barbosa. Like, he beat the breaks off of him.

And then the Dan Egey fight was competitive and fun in a different kind of a way. I still, to this day, think Danny Gay won that fight, and I know I'm not alone in that. But he came back. One.

and again at the end of the day that's all that really matters and he was part of the loudest moment in Apex history so good on the Rhone Murphy him and Gianza, he's not really gonna have a choice in the matter, he's not getting Ortega the only guy that the UFC might offer

that I think could make a lot of sense and I think it would be an interesting fight is Al Jermaine Sterling but the problem is because of this performance Al Jamein Sterling is going to be like no, I'm not fighting him. This is going to be no buzz there. I have like maybe two fights left in my career and it's not one and one of them is not going to be against Lauren Murphy and I can

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We remain in the featherweight division. We go to Pat Sabatini. He gets a dominant win over Geranderson Brito. This is kind of a theme of the night. Very wrestling heavy performance. This is one-way traffic. 30-26s. That's how I scored this fight.

Beats Jordan's and Brito. Not competitive at all. Again, we're in dart-throwing territory right now, but there's just guys ahead of him. And Sabatini's good. He's definitely a good fighter. And there are some interesting matchups at the top of this division that he could have at some point.

But he's not ahead of Chipe Mariscol. He's not ahead of Steve Garcia. He's not ahead of the John Silvas of the world. He's just winning fights, workman-like performance and gets to the mic and just says things. And then he moves on with his day. So I went with Felipe,

Lima, okay. Lima's on a nice little run right now. I have Lima ranked right around the same as Sabatini. And I, Lima's fun, man. Like, he is just fun. And be interesting on the feet. Definitely be interesting on the ground.

A lot of wild exchanges on the ground, a lot of scrambles, I think, in that fight. Lima is a very tricky young jiu-tit-to practitioner. Sabatini is a great grappler. Got some damn good jujitsu as well. So I think if we're looking for a test for Sabatini, something fun in his wheelhouse. house,

flippa Lima is a good choice. Yeah, I had Lima for, I think, what would last week or something? So, uh, but yeah, it's in that range.

One of these guys are going to, at some point he's going to be matched up with each other. Sabanine is now in that mix as well. Uh, I went with, where did my notes go? I went with, oh,

one of the men, uh, he is behind in the rankings. You're right. Chappi and Mariscall. I think Chappi and Mariscaal be interesting. So, uh,

yeah, that's it. Guys, get used to this. I think a lot of the show is going to be, Mike and I went to our rankings, looked at someone within five or six spots of them that is not booked,

preferably coming off a win, and then just let the math do the work. Because, yeah, this is a dart throw card going in, because a dart throw card going out. So I'm, that's it. I'm ready to move on. But yeah, great performance with Sabatini and fought exactly the game plan.

He should have fought. The Japanese fight makes sense. You want to know why, okay? Do you want to know why that fight makes sense? Does the date April 14th, 2018, mean anything to you? Uh, not in particular. They fought on the region scene.

What? Victory FC. This is a two? And this is a two. This is a two. And by the way, Pat Sabatini fought Bryce Mitchell. That would also be a two. They found the Ocete.

If Chepin Mariskel fight Bryce Mitchell, would also be a two. And Sabatini, Chepin Mariskel won a split decision. Perfect. Victory FC 60, April 2018. So we have ourselves a little rematch with some story and makes sense to do it now. With the sort of the run that both of these guys are on right now, Chappi Mariscal undefeited in the UFC 5 and O, just quietly making moves.

So I regret not, I regret not knowing it was a two, but happy to be a pleasant surprise. A pleasant surprise. Yes. See, I think your matchup makes a lot more sense. Yeah. Let's go to, in my opinion, the MVP of, this card it was Chang Ho Lee AK what a fight with

Cortavius Ramius who just said F it I ain't gonna try to make weight here I'm just gonna step on the scale seven minutes into weigh-ins and miss by three and a half pounds because who's gonna stop him right and he only had a four for 20% of his purse fight went on and it was a fun watch

it was definitely the best fight on the card by a country mile and Changho Lee eventually the damage bar of Romeus just continue to dwindle and dwindle and dwindle until the referee had just seen enough and chang ho lee gets that big win so dart throw a k that's just kind of what this card is all about where did the dart land at 135 here is there any chance we randomly landed on the same person did you go with a i kind of have a feeling maybe i don't know i went with someone i think literally i

now have him behind this guy in the rankings i think um did you go with the older like older fighter Not a, yeah, I would say an older fighter in the phantomweight division. No. Okay, okay, we didn't. Someone you know and probably hold near and dear to your heart. Oh, no, no, we didn't pick the same person. I went with a man who won impressively recently, pulled off a nice upset. Good grappler, not a guy who's like super dangerous.

But, you know, if Chang Ho wants to be the, you know, he wants to be the Marab. He said the next Marab or something. Yeah. Who's doing from Korean Habib to Korean Marab? Then he's got to show some serious, you know, he shows some great grappling shots, but let's see it against another guy who I think would be a very tough matchup on the ground.

Let's go with a young veteran, the young veteran Carlos Vera. How about that? The young rookie, the rookie veteran, I should say, Carlos Vera, who very new to the UFC, but has been fighting for quite a quite some time.

And yeah, that's it. Just a stiff test. This is not a build-up Chang-ho-Lee thing because I honestly don't know. Like, I would not, he should not be that heavily favorite against Carlos Verra. Let me put that way. I think Carlos Verre is, I don't know how long has you been in the O.C. Again, he got in a bit late, but he is just going to be a pain in the ass for pretty much everyone who gets messed up with him.

So, like, this to me would be, I think, I do think Chang-holy be favorite, but like maybe minus 175, something like that. Even that's a bit disrespect to Carlos Verre. I just think coming off this, I think Chang-ho's got a little bit of smoke. But, yeah, I don't. I don't have huge plans for Chang'oli just yet. But that was a really nice performance. 100%. I went with, I don't know, I have questions.

I like Chang. I think he's got a little bit of buzz right now. So let's throw him in there with a guy who was on the Ultimate Fighter, AK, back in not that long ago. He's got new shoes on his ride, rolling down 95. Pretty Ricky Terseos, AK. How about that? Let's do a little Chang'oli Ricky Terseos action.

Dig it. Love some Ricky. And again, just a good matchup for for Chengho. If we, I kind of feel like we have to have friends forever this next fight, just considering who we are. But maybe, maybe I'm completely wrong. But we finally got it after all these years, AK, we got Brad Tavaris versus Gerald Mearschart. And boy, was it everything we expected it to be and maybe maybe more. And I loved your, your Twitter question. How many rounds would it take for a finish in that fight? 10 seem to be like a pretty popular answer, but Brad Tavares gets the decision win over Gerald Mearschart. And now it is time.

You know, we talk about litmus tests for rankings and things of that nature. And we're not doing that from a traditional sense here with my pick. We are litmus testing the middleweighty middleweightness of an up-and-coming fighter who just recently got a victory. it's Brad Tavares versus Christian Leroy Duncan and there's just no other way to go with this. My best friend, why? I mean, I know why.

This is a rhetorical why. This is a rhetorical why. I know why. I know, oh, that's on a main card too. You know that's on a main card. Oh, it's got to be at the apex. It's going to be the whole main event. Yeah, that's very likely the peneltoid body.

Goodness me. That's another flight. Again, give me, I would, probably not as bad as the mere shirt tovaris one and i don't mean to me mean to both guys it's just stylistically i think i think i saw some of you guys in the picks crew mike pick uh meershart by submission did you did you did you did uh i went super i went super weird man i just went super weird that whole card that's why i was absolutely trojous in my picks listen you had to you had to make your fun somehow uh with this card mike so i don't blame you um but yeah i was like

tovaris just never lost by submission i don't think he's come close to losing by submission and and and And Mirosur, going wrong, great submission guy. He just doesn't have the tools to, like, impose that on Brad Tavares. And Brad Tavares doesn't finish anyone ever. He just doesn't. I don't know what it is. But these two are the quintessential middleweights, like clearly talented, experienced veterans. But they're just missing that one thing that makes them super dynamic and exciting.

That really sums up the entire division for the most part. So, yeah, I think, like, again, you could fight for so long. I don't think Prad Tava is going to knock him out. I don't think Gerald's going to submit him. It's just funny stuff, man. Yeah, Christian Larry Duncan, gosh. I went with sort of, I went totally the opposite way, Mike. I went with like, I want to just kind of match him up with other veterans who he hasn't had a chance to fight yet.

I think Vitori was the obvious option. I didn't go with that. I haven't looked at the listener picks. I imagine there's a lot of Votori in there, which now that I think about it, I'm like, yeah, how have they not fought yet? That's totally, that's, that, we just said a Leradonkin and him like Penulto about, Votori, Tavaris is the main event. There you go. You can book that one off.

Book off the apex that evening. You got your main event. the one I'm going with is probably not a main event. I like Chris Curtis. I like Chris Curtis. Now, I mean, Chris Curtis was a welterweight for much of his career and wasn't in the UFC. They train together? They train together?

They're best friends. I mean, they're not you and I best friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're close enough. They're both, yeah, they're both XE, XE guys. X, what is it? Extreme. Oh, Extreme Couture.

Yeah. I still want to see it. I think it's a wrong pick. I mean, you can just go to Xuring Vitor on like a random Wednesday and see it. True. True. I still want to see it. Yeah, you're right.

They probably won't play. I like it. I think Votori was the right choice. We'll see if the listeners, how many listeners said Vittori, I imagine a bunch did. Spoiler alert, I did not see a single Vittori pick for Fred to ours. Interesting. We shall see. Another great performance on this card.

It wasn't all bad. O'Day Osborne. getting a nice win and being very intelligent and i loved his post fight interview he gets a big knockdown looks like he might do do what he did in the lazy boy fight jump too quick wake the man back up but he said no i'm gonna be patient i'm gonna make sure his eyes are kind of like all over the place doesn't know where he is and then i'm gonna pounce and that's exactly what he did odio osborne back in the wind column gets it done and now we're just we're just kind of have fun with him man again it's kind of dart throwy but uh a little racheles

a Saruya action for O'Day. Let's have some real fun here. I think it would be an interesting fight. Mike, I'm going to tell people the exchange we had about this on Slack. You said, do we even have to, like, do we have to record? Which, again, you were joking. Of course we could, of course, we're going to. You had to get it out of your system.

You had to get your system. You're still dealing with a lot of disappointment from a Saturday. And I said, yes. I said, yes, we have to do it for O'Day. I said, we have to do it for a day. Mike, and then you said, well, we should just only do O'Day. And then I was like, no, stop it. Do you know the last time, Mike, that we had to do O'Day Osborne matchmaking on this show?

Oh, Jesus. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. Because either he, again, he's, you know, he's had some, you know, he hasn't been winning a lot at 125. And I think his other wins were prelim. I think when he won at 125, but they were prelim fights, I'm pretty sure. And I don't, I don't think we've ever used him as a wild card. So this is my, I have the date here for what.

when we last match made for O'Day. What is it? June 4th, 2022. UFC, Vegas 56, headlined by Alexander Volkov and Jarzino Rosenstrike. O'Day knocked out Zaruk Adashiv in 61 seconds, and we had the matchmaking for him.

Who did we pick? I don't know. I didn't go back that far. I just know that we had to. We had to do it. Maybe you weren't. I wonder if that was a Jed Mishu guest episode. I actually don't recall if we.

So I think I remember that. I actually think I got it right. Oh, you got a point. I think I said Tyson Dam. Oh, maybe. It's very possible because we couldn't get Minnell Cop Tyson Nam. That was one that I pushed for. So I ended up going with that and we ended up getting it.

But sounds like something I would say. Yeah, that sounds. I believe that. But yeah, we had to pick for O'Don. It's been almost three years since he's got to be on the show. So congrats to O'Day. My one incorrect. I was so close to a perfect card.

11 out of 12 picks, correct? I went, just weird. You are, that was impressive. Oh, my gosh. I don't think I've ever been more impressed by, by the pick up. This was a lot of luck, let's be honest. But I'm sad. We all pit Gruley.

I'm not, and for good reason. I think we all thought, I think we all said this is a test. This is how Jed framed that no bets barro, which I think was a really good way to put it. was like, this was a test. O'Day Osborne is your test for, are you a UFC fighter or are you not? And I'm not saying Grulay is going to get like cut tomorrow. But yes, I think,

we this does kind of gauge where gruella is coming in i still feel confident being i still think like he's not a bad fighter he could have won this one but great for oday really nice i think one of the nice guys in this industry um so very happy for him even though he screwed over my picks and i am going with uh raphael estabum i don't know sure i don't know rapha estabum that's my pick dart throw we you know we have we have to go to taurz fiddy i want to it has to happen i want to you want to I want to. Please. I mean, I don't need to, for the handful of people who watch this card, you are very

aware of what happened with Torres Finney's fight with Robert Valentin. So, AK, you want to talk about this. Of course. Is it more about the performance or is it more about Tony Weeks choosing violence on scorecards? I mean, both. They're inextricably tied together. This was such a weird.

It was such a wonderful MMA moment. Like, as the fight was going on, a lot of it were just slamming Finney. social media was just like just you know crushing him for yes fighting the safest game plan possible doing what he does and what is very likely going to do going forward for as long as in the he's in the UFC get low which is not hard because he's like five foot four grab an mfer and then lift them up and slam them onto the ground uh or by the end of it lift them up and then gently sort of tilt over and fall onto them onto the ground um that's what he does that's what he's going to do at robert valentine if you guys saw him in the ultimate fighter you know like he can grapple for sure

but he's mostly a striker. He's a taller striker guy. And I didn't think he's been able to put Finney in any serious danger on the ground unless Finney made a mistake or took a risk, which he did not. Torres Fian did not take any risk in the ground. And good for him. He got it. He won his decision.

Tony Weeks, the 3027 card, the protest card. I know you guys have talked about it, so I'm not going to, I'm not going to harp on it. But 3227 is so wrong. But the thought behind it is not wrong. I just don't like you can't if Torres many had lost this fight by split decision or something you wouldn't have the uproar would have been so mild like you people have been like I don't get it and I think the scoring is wrong and then they would have just moved on because he didn't hurt I don't know other than the once like maybe a slam or two he didn't really hurt Robert Valentin and isn't that not the point of a fight so yeah I just can't wait to see Tori. Philly fight again. I hope he does this every time for as long as he can. I hope he just keeps tackle people down.

I hope he becomes, he redefines what it means to be a middleweighty, middleweight champion. And I am going with a, I hope, I'm going with a do or die fight for his opponent. This is like if, if this guy can't beat Torres Fini,

this is it, like he's out. I gave him Julian Marquez. Julian Marquez. Julian Marquez. Okay. I like it. I went,

I don't even know what to say, man. See, here's the issue with Torres Fiddy. And he is a little green. He's a young man. Built like a brick shit house. But this is what you get with him. You either get first round annihilation, or you get that.

And maybe it leads to like a late finish or something like that. He's just like, okay, I've had enough. But there's no in between. There's no ground. Ray area. It's just, it's either real bad or real impressive. So let's just chuck them in there with, you know, a lower ranked dude, uh, a man who also, you know, he had a tough fight in his UFC debut, but almost pulled off a big upset in the process. And a guy who is not going to have a ton of wins in the UFC, but he'll always be fun and always bring the fight. One Nick Klein, AK. Let's just

chuck Nick Klein in there and, uh, let's, uh, let's, I don't know. I'm not going to say let's have some fun, but let's have a fight inside the world's most famous subject. I am fascinated by Finney. I am fat like I, I mean, I followed him a little bit before. I remember I actually had it in Miss Fist. I totally forgot. Like you said, and it was one of his brighter moments. It was like this explosive like knockout, like knockout punch. It was incredible. I forgot it happened. It must happen a while ago. I totally forgot about it. And I'm fascinating, man. I hope he becomes the UFC middleweighted champion. Like not just the middleweighty middleweight champion. I hope he fights whoever trick is too placeee or Kamsat down the road, whoever it is that has the belt. I want to see Finney just keep grinding people down and just pissing people off. That would be great.

Yeah. Let's go to the wild card around, AK. I can't believe we're already here. Wow. Let's select one fighter who have not matched made for yet, and let's matchmate for them now. So who did you land on, AK? Man, I was really happy for O'Day Osborne, and I'm really happy, too, for Reese McKee. I don't know Reese as well, like, as far as his personality, I know I've spoken to, you know,

I've interviewed O'Day before. I think a bunch of people have interviewed O'Don-Day. really good guy with the media. And just a super nice guy. So I don't know. I don't know if Reese is the same. But that doesn't matter to me. I think his story is compelling.

Two runs with the UFC. O and four heading into fight night. Obviously, if he had lost, I mean, that's not just the end of this UFC run. He's probably never getting a look from the UFC again. And who knows? Maybe this is the only win he gets. But it's just a nice thing, I think, for a veteran fighter to be able to say, hey, I step into the octagon and I got a win at least once, right?

It's a tough thing to do. So beats Daniel Frenza, good for him. How do we keep the good times, rolling, we just send them put him in there with Adam Fuget. That's all, man. I don't know. Some fight night card, probably a prelim again. And yeah, let's see. Let's see if we can let let the McKee good vibes keep rolling a little bit longer. Because he was, man, he was a really pretty hyped guy coming out of, coming out of England, both for Bama and Cage Warriors, of course. And, you know, for whatever reason, just maybe it's the matchups, but couldn't put it together.

Again, maybe he's just not a great fighter and that's fine. You know, again, as we know, not everyone who steps into the UFC is elite these days. But he is a winner. He deserves to fight another person coming off a win, and that is Mr. Fuget. My biggest thing coming out of that fight was if Frunza's lip wasn't as, like, torn in half, what would have happened? Because Frunzo was starting to get a little momentum going, and he was starting to turn things around, and we're thinking sort of in the Slack channel, like, man, could Daniel Frunza be the Houston to Rees-Dukee's Duke right now?

Like, could this really happen? and I was starting to think it might, but luckily, it didn't, I guess for, luckily, luckily depending on who you talk about, but yeah, good on Reese McKee, gets it done. It was literally his last chance and you could maybe say the same about Odey Osborne, honestly. Like both guys were on their last legs, desperation time, needed a win and both got it and both got finishes. So congrats to both of them.

I went with the low-hanging fruit, AK, the biggest favorite on the fight card. I went with Deoni Barbosa. I like what I've seen from her. She's good. She is a little green, but there is promise there. She, it was just nice to see a massive favorite go in there and fight and deliver a performance like a massive favorite. Not everybody did that on this card. Deoni Barbosa did.

And now she is going to be the return opponent for one Casey O'Neill, AK. That's what we're doing. I don't know why for a moment there. I thought you were going to say the return of one for Molly McCann. I thought you're going to say Molly McCann. Molly McCann saw what Dejone did to her old pal, Diana Belvita, and said, no. No, only I. Only I am the one who beats up Diana Belvita.

How dare you, madam. That's my gimmick. I'm coming back. I think I can take you. Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. No.

Sorry. Could you actually say again? You said, Casey O'Neal. Cassio. Yes. Yes. And good for Deanna Barbosa. She looks impressive.

But that'd be a tough matchup. It would be, but I think it's a good one. All right. Both right around the same. So let's go to the peeps. You know what's better than the one big thing? Two big things. Exactly.

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How many peeps? How many peeps you got? I got like five. Yeah, I got about the same. Maybe a little more than five, but less than 10, I think. Yeah. And you know, the good news is maybe we'll just, we'll eliminate all the picks and we can just move. I'm just joking.

We do a first timer though, AK. Shout out to Jimmy Lloyd. I already welcomed him in the IG. Welcome to the party pal. Welcome to the party pal. He basically said like, yo, be nice. You know, let's take. it easy on me. It's my first time doing this.

We'll be the judge of that. He likes Lorone Murphy versus the Volcanoz loser. Yeah, logical, logical, yeah. He likes Pat Sabatini. We're going very UFC 314 stakesy here. Pat Sabat sepitia versus the Sean Woodson versus Dan Egey loser. Okay, yeah. He hasn't fought Dan Ege, right? No. No. He's never fought Danny. He's not. Nope. Chang-Halee versus Hione Barcellos. Brad Tavar's versus Joe Pfeiffer.

What do you think about that idea? Hold on I got to rewind to the Barcellos pick. I don't like that for Chang. I think that's way too much. We just saw Howie take out a talented young man in Peyton Talbot. And I think Chang Ho might be a little further along than Talbot. But I think we got to stop. Are we disrespecting her honey?

That's a huge test for Changholy. Sorry, Mike. What was this next one? Maybe it's just fully respecting the skills of Changholy. He's a breakout. Let's just storm to the wolves. Did people not watch the road to UFC finale fight? Like it was and it was fine.

It wasn't like he was bad, but it's not, he didn't dominate like his road to UFC finale. Like, are you guys just what, like just one fight? What's going on here? Hey, listen. Go out there and you beat a contention of a guy like that. Oh, God. On your way.

Brad Tavars versus Joe Piper. I think we still need to see Piper and, uh, I think we still need to see Piper and gasloom. But, uh, yeah, of course. It's definitely, I kind of think, I kind of think B. Joe just kind of lost that opportunity. Oh, man. I don't think he's going to get it. Maybe, maybe. A little bit of doo-doo, but I'm not going to go crazy here.

O'Day Osborne versus Sumedaregi. Of course, Sumedirji is fighting on Saturday, UFC 2.14. It's the Park Report of 2.0. People just love Mitch Raposo at M.A. fighting, just big Mitroposo guys, and I respect the hell out of it. And this, I got to tell you, Jivvy, I saw this fight, and I almost threw up in my mouth a little bit. And it's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's just imagining what this fight actually looks like in execution.

I got a little six. I had to chug some water. First of all, it's a ridiculous step up. And secondly, like, this fight could happen, and we know what it's going to look like. Torres Fini A.K. versus Jacob Malkoon. Thank you. I should have said, let me guess who it is, because I was going to say Jacob Malkun. I just knew that's so good.

That's so good. That's so good. And I feel like nauseous right now. That might be, that might be for the most middleweighty fight in the history of middleways. If that's on a main card, even of an apex card, if they put that on a, I was going to just swear so hard there. If they put that on a main card of an apex card, you should get your ESPN plus subscription paid for for that month. Like you should not be, you should not have to pay for that month. that's that's that's that's that's that jimmy great job that's a disgusting fight yeah that's disgusting

yeah i kind of want to see it now i love torus finney every matchup is good every match is we're doing i'll tell you right now if that fight happens we're doing a watch party for that fight yeah you have the whole staff we're all doing it we're all doing it together without question god christ london what a card along with about a dozen dots after it uh boy you need a dozen more Murphy versus Arnold Allen Emmett versus Steve Garcia Sabatini versus William Gomi

Brad DeVars versus Bruno Faheda Mirchart versus Cesar Almada Chang-Houli versus Carlos Farah how about that, AK Romius versus Alexandre Tuporia We don't need to matchback for Romeas He missed weight and he got a whoopin

Come on guys I mean I threw Taboria's name out more Martin Boudai versus Walter Walker Kind of is everything I'm hoping for as a man who dabbles into gambling every so often. That is, that is heavyweight over-ish, if there ever was a lot.

Can that be on the same card as Finney Malcolm? That's the main event. That's five rounds. I mean, there's no other way to do it. Stop it. Dioti Barbosa versus JJ Aldrich. I kind of like that. Loma Lomalukbuni versus Amanda Hebas.

Not her best night at the office, but a win is a win. You got to push her up. She's one four straight. I mean, she needs to step up. She needs to step up. Victor Reese McKee versus Carlson Harris, Osborne versus Maxim. Here's a couple here. Victor Henry versus Peyton Talbot.

I don't like this, unless you're just kind of getting off the Peyton Talbot train. He's just not ready for, like if you got, yeah, again, you're right. That sounds like they're trying to put Peyton Talbot in a bad space because we just saw him struggle with how many Barcellos. Again, totally different fighter, totally different fighter than Victor Henry. but this would be just a school this would be a schooling on the feet like the standup is nowhere near the level of victor henry so and i don't think pey and taill was just going to like tackle him and like out wrestling for the rounds i can't amaz that happening so i don't know yeah maybe flow out in peyton i'm not sure

chris is also this is what he has done for torres finney and honestly i will watch jacobalcun before i want to see this fight um not that it's bad but i just from a ufc matchmaking standpoint i don't don't know how you do this fight should i try to guess this one now no no i can't i can't macuna's the best guess go i don't know finney versus mansor abdul malic like you know no nah you can't they're prospects they're both prospects keep them keep them apart keep them apart now not yet not yet forever yeah keep them apart unless is the title fight we need to let both these dudes develop in their own way we can't throw them in there against yeah uh dawson boyd i'm calling this one ufc Vegas, Dawson can't make a pick to save his life. Well, you ain't alone there because go to my

topology page. Holy crap. I think it was like five of 12. It was brutal. Finney made a negative amount of fans tonight. So let's do Finney versus the lowest ranked middleweight. I think they just did that. I think we just did that. Honestly, I think we just did that. Hold on. I'm trying to see who I have lower, but I think so I'm not with the UFC anymore. I had Dylan Boodka lower, but I believe he has been reported as being released. Jose, Medina who we just saw lose, I think, right? Jose Medina, I guess we were in play. And that's literally it. That's, and then

Andre, that's it. Those are all the guys who are like, dude, Jose Medina might actually be the correct answer. Maybe. Maybe. That's a little cynical though, isn't it? Like, we're really doing this. He's here for. He's lost three. He's lost three straight fights. He didn't even win to get into the UFC. You, you, this is not fair to Torres. Torres Finney had to win. You know what? That's the beef.

You know what? Okay, you're right. You Bill DeRas Finney, he's like, I had to win three times on contender series to get a contract. Jose Medina lost and he got a contract. It is personal. I have to take this guy down now. I love this idea. Okay, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in. I think that, all right, I think that's the fight.

I think roundabout way we got there. Osborne versus Felipe Dos Santos, Chang Heli versus Ricky Terseos. There we go. Brad Tavaris versus Shara Bullet, AK. Thoughts on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Brad can be matched up with anyone. He can match up with anyone. That's just where he is in the UFC. And congrats on him, by the way. 16 wins, 16 wins most ever by UFC middleweight. Great job. Or tied? No, no, yeah.

No, he passed Bissing, I think. He passed Bissing, he passed. No, he's tied with Bisming. He's tied with Bissing. He's tied with Bissing. Joe Kotke had a lot of repeats, but he threw out a couple, Reese McKee versus Phil Rowe.

I think that's perfect. I actually love this fight. Victor Henry versus Adrian Yannias. Yeah, that's great. Terrific matchmaking. Amazing. I love that. I believe John Ray is the last one.

Yes. Alan Carr versus Luciano. Rebook Budai versus Nchichu. Look Boonee versus Lucindao. McKee versus Means versus Tim Means. We used to say lobby for Robbie for Tim Means. No. No.

Something that rhymes with McKee. Barbosa versus Hardy. Osborne versus Clayton Carpenter. Tavars versus the Ikram Alaskaroff, Andre Munez loser, Chang-holy versus Brady Highstand, Pat Sabatini versus Bruce Leroy, Alex Casaris, and Josh Emmett versus the Gian Silva Bryce Mitchell winner. Hear me out. If Gian Silva wins, that's a banger.

If Mitchell wins, we let Emmett finish the job this time. How dare you? I'm not not so bad. It's good thinking. But that's it. All right. all right uh let's see we got here i'll go to the emails first lucas cortez some fun moments i enjoyed this show anyway i actually saw a few messages like this good if you enjoyed the show we're not

going to tell you like oh you're dumb for enjoy no hey you enjoyed it you enjoyed it like we're critical of it we think like we think we think there's a lot of there's a reason like a lot of people didn't enjoy it but if you enjoyed it that's great man i hope you had a great Saturday night so lucas uh victor henry demone black sheer finney versus mearshart i think at this stage of the career as meershart would submit him i definitely think jerry You can't do that. I don't think he can just get tackled down. Like, I still think.

Chang Ho Lee, Sayy demergometta, Sabatini, Du Ho Choi. I hadn't even thought of that. That's not bad. Jay Donaggy, M.A. supposed to be fun. That was not too fun. Fair. He's just straight up matching up Murphy and John Silva.

He's just assuming John Silva is going to win. He says after he beats Mitchell, fair. Chang Ho Lee and Toporia, Alexandra, DePoria. I think, I actually don't mind. I was going to say like Tuporia is ahead of him, but like I might I'm probably giving to Tabori too much credit just because he is Ilya's brother. And he was good in his debut. I'm just saying like that's not like a crazy mismatch.

I don't mind it. Tavares, Christop Jocko, who mentioned this in our chat? Didn't someone, did you? Was it you that said like, I swear someone mentioned this in our chat. I know Jock goes obviously far removed from the UFC. But like, yeah, bring him back. No, um, someone on Twitter? No, Damon.

I'm sorry, someone named Maiden, just made a person in our Slack channel. It was like, is this the middle-weightiest fight of all time? And I'm like, no, Marvin Vittori is not involved. I was like, Marvin Vittori versus Christop Jotko is the middle-weightiest fight of all time. That's like if you book that one, that is UFC, Vegas 109. It's getting all middle-weighty in here. Oh, my God.

That would be the main event. Torres-Fini Ryan Loder. I thought about this, but like, so Ryan Loder is, Mike, because I'm sure you remember, I don't need to remind you, is the one who beat Robert Valentin to win the ultimate fighter. So I don't know. I think Ryan is beyond, like, that's, he's beyond that. He won the, I don't have to fight Torres Finney's sweepstakes.

So, but I get the thinking, the, the tough killer or something. I don't know. Victor Henry, Cody Garbrand, wild card pick. Yeah, I don't, yeah, yeah, actually. Like, I don't think it happens. And there's almost zero chance the UFC books that. But I think that fight actually makes quite a bit of sense. Let's go to the Twitter, just a few here.

Marcus McGee. Marcus McGee, he coming in first. What do you say here? Alan Carr, Elise Reed, Buda, I just read book Kennedy

and Zuchuku and Budai. I like some of these. These are some good picks, Marcus. I thought about this one, Goff and Reese McKee. Fini Chikoli, another one I thought of.

Marcus, is a very good picks. I think Marcus, I think he could be getting some points, Marcus. Like, these aren't like the sexiest matchups, but if you're doing like a crystal ball thing

and like where the UFC could go with these, I think these are really logical. Mike, what do you think of Lorone Murphy versus this actually a really good question. Lorone versus the Yaira Pitt Bowl winner? Maybe the loser.

Maybe the loser. Because do you think Pitbull gets a title show? Like as long as he puts on an impressive performance, it's a title shot? I think it honestly depends on I think it depends on who wins the belt at the end of the night. And then I'm kind of curious to see how some of this match

making is being done. There are reports out there as we speak right now that Mobzar of Lov is fighting Aaron Pico. Yeah, I just saw that in May. And it's, it's from somebody who's like reported news correctly in the past. We have obviously not confirmed this, but dude, like that is, if you're Aaron Pico, I mean, that is just getting chucked to the wolves immediately.

But if Mobzar wins that fight, like, I think he has to get the title shot next. So, but again, if, like, Diego Lopez wins the belt and Yaia Rodriguez, just ethers, Patricio Pitbull, is there a bigger main event you can make in Guadalajara than Diego Lopez versus Yaya Rodriguez for the feathery belt? Like, just a lot to think about there. So I'm not ruling it out, but I don't know, man. Like, I think maybe if Pitbull wins, I wouldn't mind Lorone versus Yair. I wouldn't mind that. Right. Right. But if, yeah, yeah, but he might not get the winner.

Okay, yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Of the fight. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't know if Murphy is factoring into their plans like that. So. Yeah.

I think if Pitbull wins, he's his, I think if Pitbull wins, his probably his next fight is for the belt. He might have to wait for somebody else to fight for the belt before he does. But I would pretty much venture a guess that he will just wait for a title fight. Yeah. Matt Kennedy, I have to read this one because I think this was our own. only Sotibaldiev, Uron Sultebaldiev pick. Him and Julius Walker.

Yeah, return to light heavyweight. Clearly, obviously, Sultebaldiev is not a heavyweight. Just took the fight on like two or three days notice. And actually didn't do too badly. Like he lost, but it's not like, oh, you shouldn't have done this. Like, he kind of, he kind of looks like, he's definitely a UFC level guy, whatever that means these days. So, yeah, him and Julius Walker, sure.

Budai and Mick Parkin. Yeah. Victor Henry Raul Rosas Jr. Man, people are really sending. in old Victor after some of these young guns. This makes a little more sense than Peyton Talbot, I think, but still, I don't think, if you're a Ruralosis,

I mean, it's not, like, this is not what you were looking for. Luke Buhn-Me and Lupi. Yes, this makes sense. They fought. This is a two. That's what I thought so. I knew, I was like, the only thing is I'm pretty sure we know Lupe can beat her. It was a while ago, so if you want to throw a two in there, by all means, absolutely they could run this rematch,

but yeah, just a note to everyone out there. This fight did happen. Reese McKeepers Tim means court McGee Whoever isn't retired And Frenza versus Gilbert Rabina If still in UFC Okay

Mike let me read this one Because they want to explain themselves F it Dionne Barbosa versus Jessica Andrage Before I get flamed No matter the outcome of USC 315 Okay Okay

Yes okay Before I get blamed Boba Barbosa is 32 So not young fair. I would say she's youngish in flight years, but I fair. She speaks English, which always helps from trying to get a push. And Johnny is on the back nine and that fight will be fire. I still think they won't just based on their,

just because how much experience Andrade has, but so much things are possible with the UFC these days, because you're right, they just have to make matchups and they have to book cards. Like, I don't love it, Matt, but that's kind of like, it's kind of possible. She would need Jasmine. She would need Jasmine, Jasmine Javius, to beat the hell out of Justin Droz. Oh, for that even to be a really list of possibility.

Send her plummeting down the ranking. Like what Jasmine did to, what's her face, Priscilla Kachuaera, that kind of fight. It would need to be something like that before they throw a barbo. It's not like Barbosa won 12 fights in a row.

She is on a one-fight win streak right now. And she did it against someone who's probably not going to be on the UFC roster come Wednesday. So kind of have to take that into account. True. Barbrose is good, man. Like she's fun.

I don't mind giving her a step up. That's why I like the Casey O'Neill idea. But if she goes in there, if they do a Casey O'Neill, somebody of that ilk, sure. Barbosa versus Caitlin Chukagian wouldn't be terrible right now because she can't, or Cermanagh, excuse me. She hasn't fought in forever. So if we're going to do something like that, maybe you go there. But I think she needs another win first before we start throwing her in there with,

with former champions. Matt also stepped into the Tavares, Chris Curtis, Dudupile with me. Matt, I'll tell you, I like the matchup, but as we pointed out, they do train together. Lorone Murphy and Giga, after Giga beats David O'Nama. Boy, that's an if, man. That is an if. How do you feel about it? And I don't think him fighting Onama makes sense.

I don't think that. No, I actually like that fight. No, I like it stylistically. Man, that's a, but that's huge. I don't want to sound like a prick here. How Giga Chikaze is ranked number 11 is unbelievable to me. I'm sorry. He's like he's a fine fighter.

But Calvin Cater beat the shit out of him. Like basically put him, it made fans go from this guy's a win away from fighting for the belt to this guy's never fighting for the belt in a matter of 25 minutes. And he lost to Arnold Allen. It was a fun fight, but he lost. There's a real chance he loses to David Onama, man. So I get the matchmaking there. I just don't see Laron taking that fight. Because I don't see Giga as like a top 15-ish featherweight.

This division is just so deep. Like, I would pick a lot of fighters outside the top 15 to beat Giga Chikaze right now. Pretty, pretty confidently. So, yeah, man. I don't know. All right. No, Lorone is really tough to, I think Lorne is one of the toughest guys I'm actually for it right now.

Definitely one of the tougher. Lorone would win. Lorone to win the fight. He probably a minus 350 favorite to win him. Braden O'Neill. I'm going to just go over some of these we've seen already. Luke Boone Me Hill, too. I do want to see the fight again someday.

I just don't know if I'm itching for it right now. Finney and Brundage. We were saying last week, like Brundage is such a spoiler. Like, I just don't know if you want to, if you're trying to build up someone like Finney, if that's where you want to go. Tavares versus, oh, yeah, Sharra bullet, Padeta, wait, that fight is blocked or not? It is.

No, it is. It is. Wait, what? Shara, Megametteov, Michelle Pareda? Or is that a, is that not a thing? What? Really? No, I don't know.

I don't know. I'm going to topology now to see if it's even a... Oh, I'm sorry, Abbas Megamatta. Oh, okay. Jesus Christ. I forgot. I'm sorry. This is not Braden's fault.

Brayden put Megamatov. I mean, it is your fault because you should, you should specify by which Megamatta, you're talking about, by the way. But I should have remembered that it was Avis Megamato and Mitchell Bennett. Okay. All right. Now I feel better about it.

Yeah. Chang-ho-Lee, Bernardo-Lepa. Oh, man, people really... Were people that impressed by this Chang-Ho-Lee performance? They were. Oh, my God. It was great, but you said he's the star of the show. You said it's the star of the show.

He was the star of the show. Cortavius is not... I'm sorry, Cortavius. Cortepius is not a great phantom weight. He's not a great band-in-weight. Okay, I'm sorry. Chang-o-Li, you did great. great. I hope you get a big matchup next. Boy, a lot of people just match him up with tough,

tough guys. He likes Emmett and Sterling. I met and Aljo. That's not bad. It's not bad. Thomas Collins. A lot of people say Lorone Murphy, Arnold Allen. Okay, sure. All British matchup. Yeah, yeah, I get it. Josh Emmett and Zalal. That makes sense for Zalal. Yeah, okay. Reese McKee, Wellington, Tourman. Yeah, I mean, sure. Torres Finney versus Ali Ashkab Kizriev colon for Kizreyev to beat him

Thomas Kahn's openly rooting against Torres Finney just Loma and Tabitharvichi Speezy 32 says we had a couple of stinkers overall some really fun fights Sure A couple of stee

Okay Sure hey Shout out man Shout out to you Beauty is in the eye of the beholder Mike He likes Murphy Ortega He likes Sabatini Nathaniel

Chang Ho Lee Keelan Lockren. Oh, my Lord, my best friends. Friends forever, Brad Tavares, Christian Leroy, Duncan. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Rees McKee, Danny Barlow. Yeah, I thought about that. Loma Lupi, too.

Guys, this is a two. This is a two. Was the first fight that forgettable? Victor Henry versus Victor Hugo. May the best Victor, may the best Victor be the victor. Nice. I love, wow. Nice.

Alan Carr and Demopolis should both be cut for that fight last. Why should Ellen Carr be cut? What a Toledo Alicard do you wrong? She dropped a 30-226 on Vanessa DiMoblos. What do you want from her? Should be cut. Wow. What do you say about Torres Finney if we're talking about that?

I know, right? Should he be like, should he be wrought out through the village and just like kicked in the ass all the way down by everybody in the population? Jeez, Louise, we're going to cut Tolita Alancarp to drop it a 30-26 on this woman. Jolly. He said Finney versus Robert Breachek, who is still in the UFC, apparently. Okay. And what was the last one?

He said there, sorry, Spez. He said, oh, and then he said, yes, if Alonkar is going to stick around, her and Tydauer. And I think just a couple from Instagram. Let's close out the show here. What is up, Tino Alvarez, Odei versus Edgar Chiron, Mexico Card, sure. Brad Debris. Oh, God, that's fun. That is fun.

Bruno Faheda, Changholy, Brady Houston. We saw that already. another or Murphy Arlenal. Maybe Murphy Arlenal is the way to go. And closing us out, hello, our old friend, Gerard Biaghan, how is it going? Lorone, your football winner, sure. I think we haven't seen here. Chang-ho Lee, Garrett, Arnfield.

Thank you, Gerard, thank you. And Garrett's a tough opponent, but this makes more sense to me. Thank you. Tough opponent. There are no easy opponents in that division, except for maybe Cortavius Romius. O'Day Osborne, Felipe Bunez. I thought of this too, but I didn't want to do, you know, this is a friend of Casey's or someone who Casey is trained with Torres Binnie Ozzie Diaz.

I could very much see them going that direction, but I don't know. Reese McKee, Billy Gop and Victor Henry, Brady Houston. A lot of Brady Houston mentions on the last like two episodes of Otno. So Brady, get out. People want to see you. Fight, Brady. You're a good looking prospect. Let's get you back in there.

Mike, I'm glad we did this show. Can I just say I feel better? And this show was doing the show was way more fun than watching the show. as it was. Yeah, and now it's over. And now we're, that's over done talking to UFC Vegas 101. Yep.

It's done. That's it. I can guarantee damn to you. Not a second of time will be spent on UFC Vegas 105 on BTL. Not a second. So I hope you enjoyed the reaction because you ain't getting any more because it is officially UFC 314 fight week. And we can all be excited about this.

There's nothing to be negative about when it comes to this. This is what every pay-per-view. should aspire to be in the year of our Lord 2025. Terrific main event. A new champion will be crowned. Alexander Volcanowski versus Diego Lopez. Michael Chandler versus Patty Pimblet, five-round co-main event, which is an incredibly fascinating fight.

It has taken the buzz probably from the main event overall in terms of intrigue and interest. And if you want to get Michael Chandler's thoughts days away from the fight, go to our YouTube channel. I spoke with Michael Chandler the other day. Bryce Mitchell versus Gian Silva has just become what it has become. And Yaya Rodriguez versus Petruchio Pitbull. And the main card opener as right now, Nikita Krylov versus Dominic Reyes. And then the prelims, I mean, golly.

Featured prelim, exactly right. They nailed this. Danny Gay versus Sean Woodson. Janjanon versus Verna Janjaroba. Jim Miller versus Chase Hooper. Darren Elkins versus Julian Arosa. Those last nine fights are all excellent. fights excellent fights and then we go to the early prelims said riki dumas versus mikhail oligzec

someone's getting put to sleep we have sumadairj versus everyone's hero mitroposo trachon gore versus marco tullio and a k ufc 314 just has something for everybody including you a k women's bantam weights kicking off the festivities the number 13 ranked nora cornole versus Haley Cowan is the curtain jerker for UFC 314. So if you're in Miami, if you got your tickets and you spent high price, get in there. Be Shane Gillis, man. Be a prelim lover. Be there for fight number one.

Be there for high stakes women's bandamweight action at UFC 314. A.K., I'm so pumped for this card. I'm excited to go live next Sunday to talk about it. Yeah, this is the opposite of what we just experienced in Saturday. It looks great on paper. I don't think we'll be two sisters pointed. Like, I don't want to keep people's hopes up too much. You never know with these big cards.

I mean, some fights just might not deliver. And fingers crossed, everyone makes it to the card. Every fight you just read out, Mike, I hope nothing happens during fight week with injuries, weight cut illness, and anything like that. Let's just hope everyone gets in there,

gets their paycheck, and that we all get to have a good time watching this one. Because, yeah, we deserve this, Mike. As a community, we deserve it. Yes. And you know what we also deserve? When UFC 314 is over, there's not another UFC card for two weeks after that we get a one week

reprieve it's WrestleMania week which we can also be excited about and then the UFC's in Kansas City then they're in Des Moines and then they're in Montreal so no apex trips for over a month now so we can get even more excited about that EFL focus on PFL you guys focus just enjoy PFL without having to worry about any of UFC stuff BFL GFL maybe but we'll see you next week live right here and on to the next one the podcast. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Unwrap holiday magic at Holt Renfrew with gifts that say I know you. From festive and cozy fashion to lux beauty and fragrance sets, our special selection has something for every style and price point. Visit our Holtz holiday shop

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