MMA Fighting - On To the Next One: Matches To Make After UFC Vegas 30

Episode Date: June 27, 2021

On the 49th episode of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting’s Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee put on their matchmaker hats following Saturday’s UFC Vegas 30 event at the APEX. Future matchups were discussed for Ciryl Gane following his unanimous decision win over Alexander Volkov in the heavyweight headliner, Tanner Boser, Timur Valiev, Tim Means, Renato Moicano, and more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Downloaded 2. Ghosts in the Machine. Available now, only from Audible. And welcome to a brand-new edition of On to the Next One. it's time to do some matchmaking on the MMA fighting podcasting network. I am Mike Hack. Thank you for joining us as we discuss the fallout and the what's next for the notable names coming out of UFC Vegas 30 this past Saturday. And I wish the UFC would continue this trend of doing early fight night cards. This was a delight.

I got to just relax and be a fan and watch BKFC and just enjoy the night without any pressure. It was great. but that's beside the point. Joining me in this venture is, of course, the co-host, the co-matchmaker, the best friend, and the Prince of positivity. Mr. Alex Keeley, hello, my best friend.

How's it going on this fine day? You're muted. I am. My best friend, take two. My best friend, it's a beautiful day. I can't even believe we're talking about the UFC. That UFC card was so long ago now.

I mean, I'm used to, like, just waking up, and it's still being fresh in my brain, because we're working on it until, you know, Lord knows a time in the morning. But we've had another major combat sports event since then. I mean, do people even want to hear the mashmaking for UFC Vegas 30 right now? They're probably all buzzing about BKFC. They could be talking about Beltor and PFL from the night before. Oh, gosh.

But you know what? I enjoyed the card, the UFC card. I think we should talk about it. You know, I get it. It's a distant memory at this point. I think there was a Ryzen. Was there a Ryzen last night, too? I don't know what's going on in combat sports anymore.

This game is crazy. But yeah, I thought it was a nice card, man. It was, you know what they say, Mike, those cards that nobody's talking about. They're the ones that always deliver. So that adage certainly stood out, I think, on Saturday. Yes, and it was also the quote-unquote go-home show for UFC 264, which goes down in less than two weeks. And I thought the promo packages for Poria McGregor 3 were very well done and got me very jacked up for this. But intense.

Yes. That is just. This has some history. Yeah, I think they've squared off before. You know, we've had some negative interactions. They've had quite positive interactions. I think we're going to meet somewhere in the middle heading into July 10th. But that is July 10th.

Let us go back to this past Saturday and let us begin with, in my opinion, I don't know how you feel about this. This is probably the toughest piece of business on the card because Cyril Gahn passed his biggest test with flying colors. He outclasses Alexander Volkov. He's a great performance. Moves to 9-0 as a pro. He's 6-0 in the UFC. But like we talked about on the preview show, A.K., he's not in the best spot right now because there's a massive log jam above him in this heavyweight division.

We haven't gone to the champion who's gone's former teammate. There's clearly a story there. But Gons probably not getting the next title shot unless just a string of bad luck happens to everybody above him. He's presumably, you know, in Gano, that is, pronouns pal getting set to fight derrick lewis later this year there's john jones there's stepe all those guys are in the mix for the heavyweight title so what do we do what do we do okay mike i i i didn't find this difficult because i did what i always do when i'm faced with a challenge a challenge of this back too i gave up i gave up and you know that's a policy that's served me

well in my life uh children children children i know we have a lot of under you know children listening to this show don't be like me uh but but what i mean is you know we discussed prior to the show everything you just said how as cool as you know as cool and as competitive as this matchup was a gone in volkov we knew it's not going to lead to anything big in the immediate future for either gone or volkov so we were prepared for this uh so i just i pretty much just have to go down my rankings see who's free see who makes sense see who else is kind of on a win streak and i'm just going to go agon and martin tibura it's not it's not a sexy matchup by any means it's certainly at the point now where gone has more to lose from that kind of fight than he does to gain.

God can't. No fun intended. And originally, I think I wanted to broar to fight Rosenstrike, but again, Rosenstrike now is booked for Curtis. He got a quick turnaround. So not a quick turn, I just say, but a quick booking. So he's already ready. So that fights off the table. For me, that means Martine needs an opponent.

He's on a win streak. So, yeah, him and gone. Good fight. Not the test, not sort of the kind of cool fight for Gone. we've seen in his last two outings where we'll learn more about him. And again, really dangerous fight. I mean, Taboro is very different from Volkov or Rosenstrike. But again, if gone has to fight in between now and getting a tell shot, I went pretty

conservative with my pick. I know there was another popular choice out there. I don't know if that's where you're going to go with, Mike. Yeah, I honestly am not sure. I like to be surprised when I open up the old DMs and see what people are suggesting. but look, the correct and very basic and boring answer is he's just going to have to wait and see how these pieces fall. But honestly, with Curtis Blades getting the fight with Jarzino, yeah, he could sub it and fight Blades of something were to happen to Rosenstrike, heading into UFC 25 or in September, whatever, the 266. These are so far away at this point.

But I thought Zero Gone had a tremendous performance. I thought he did a lot of things right. but I think he made a massive mistake when he had a microphone in front of him. He should have gotten on the microphone and not called for a title shot. He shouldn't have called for Francis. He shouldn't have called for John Jones

or anybody like that. He should have called out Steepay. He should have absolutely called out Steepay. In fact, it makes, because it makes sense for both guys, AK. Like, it makes sense for Steepay because it would probably be a smart idea, especially with the John Jones factor looming upon us,

to get in there and get another win against the top contender, which in a fight he'd probably be favored in. And then it's a no-brainer to get back to a title shot. For gone, he would have the chance to take a massive roadblock out of his path to the title. He can stay active. That's a main event or a co-made event on a pay-per-view. He's going to get paid pretty well to take that fight.

And if he beats Depe, I mean, he could literally, after that win, fight for the belt next, if they can't come to terms with John Jones. So if I have to make an action, actual pick, that's the fight that makes the most sense, but he might not get it because I think it was kind of a lapse in judgment. He looked too far ahead. He didn't look far behind, but he should there was an interesting choice right in front of him that I think he could have gotten had he been vocal about it. Steep A was the guy. And without this fight, it's going to take an awful long time

for him to get a title shot, A.K. Yeah, look, Dan Kormay gave him the chance post-fight, what do you want next? And he was just, he gave a very bland dancer. He said, I want the next challenge. I'm ready for the next challenge, which is cool, very classy thing to say. But yeah, that's the kind of thing that does not move the proverbial needle. That does not get the matchmakers shuffling their papers and hitting their phones, their texted phones to figure out what to do with you.

They probably saw it and they're like, okay, cool. We don't have to wear it by this guy for another couple of months. And that's really not where you want to be when you're coming up back-to-back main event victories. You should be getting the having the matchmaker sweat a little bit. So, yeah, again, another great win for Gone. Yes, we've got to work on the callout skills, Mike. Definitely need to work on that a little bit. Yeah, be like, Steepa, I know you're trying to put on size, but don't bother, bro.

You could be 285 pounds and I'm still going to start you. I'm going to send you back to Cleveland with another loss, bro. Let's go. Boom, he would have gotten that fight. But I digress. Good win for Cyril Gone. Alexander Volkov is in a pretty rough spot now because he really needed that one. Because I don't know if he's ever going to get to a title shot at this point at the way this division looks right now.

and some of the guys coming up. It's not that he's a bad fighter. He's a really good fighter. He's a very dangerous man, but he needed this one a lot more than the Cyril Gond did. But we move ahead to the co-made event. We saw Tanner Bozer get back in the wind column. He snaps a two-fight skid,

stops Ovin St. Peru in the second round in a finish that. To put it lightly, it has been mired in controversy because there was, we'll call everything's a gate. So fence-grab gate, which, by the way, if you watch the replay or watched anything, 100% clear there was no fence grab. So that's not the controversy. The controversy stems from referee Jason Herzog

because he thought Tanner grabbed the fence and he went over and clearly made contact with OSP. I couldn't tell watching it multiple times if he made contact with Bozer. And I'm not sure if he did, but it doesn't matter. He put his hands on OSP, and then he changed his mind. So OSP is appealing the TK a loss because he was in a pretty good spot.

He was on top of Bozer, who was on his back. Herzog comes over, look to pause, changed his mind, and then the entire complexion of the fight change after that. So before we matchmake for Bozer, who won the fight AK, fellow Canadian, and deserves to be talked about for winning the fight, we know how difficult it is for these things to get overturned, right? But does OSP have a gripe here? Like, does he have a point?

He has two gripes, actually. One, Jason Herzog, I want to say first, I think one of the best, most consistent officials in the sport. So I'm, it wasn't, that was not a great showing for him for sure, deserving the criticism. I'm sure when he gets a chance to review the footage, he's going to, he's going to feel, you know, he's going to feel pretty, pretty bad about it. I think, I do think that there was that one moment of contact that really can't be ignored. I know people will, I know people will say, oh, like how much of them's could have made? I mean, that can make all the difference in the world, especially during what turned out to be the fight ending flurry.

That's a big deal. So the other thing is, Mike, you don't know, but Canadians, we actually have a sixth finger. So I know you, I know the replays seem to have absolved Tanner. They're like, oh, clearly he's making a fist. How could he? We have a sixth finger. It's called the thinkle. And it's thick enough to extend out and actually latch into the cage.

So I'm sorry, Tanner, I'm sorry to call you out. and also to all my other Canadians for revealing our freakish secret, he did have a six finger that, that's such a, and I believe it's the only explanation, because if you watch the footage, it, I mean, he just, he just, I don't know,

maybe it was also the glove, the tension from the glove was able to kind of latch on to the, the fence, because it did, like, seem to boost him out of the position he was in. So a great move, I'll say, great move by Bozer.

Obviously, nothing against the rules there. He just, he just, you know, found a way, found a way to kind of get that glove right against, on a part of the fence where it helped

them just give me a little bit of leverage. So I don't know. I don't know if that's going to work for everyone. It could be a heavyweight thing, could be a hand-sized, glove-sized thing that lets you do that, but really a unique moment because it did, you know,

Dan Corme in the moment thought for sure he must have grabbed the fence and the replays, there's no way. It's not possible. All his fingers were pulled in. So what was I talking about? Who should? Oh, does he have a gripe?

Yeah. Sorry, does OSP have a gripe? Yeah. So back to the original question. It's based on the moment with Herzog. Yeah, like you said, is the chance of getting overturned, I mean, almost slim to none. I think there'll, you know, there'll be some statement made about, oh, you know, we'll address

these issues in the future and the referee may have made, had a moment of incidental contact that, but yeah, I don't think it gets overturned. I don't think they run this one back. It was kind of thrown together to begin with, so OSBs are going to have to sit on this L, unfortunately. Yeah, he absolutely has a gripe here. and I'm not taking anything away from Tanner's win and I mean we saw that first round

OSP did absolutely nothing I don't even think he landed I don't even know if he threw a strike in that first round I was gonna say you said literally say landed like did anything get out there but he takes you know he's just he's a consummate slow starter takes Tanner down gets him inside control that is not a good place to be if you're fighting Ovin St. Peru and Tanner it is what it is got up finish the fight did what he needed to do.

How much impact did Jason Herzog in that moment have? I have no idea. But when I tweeted out that Jason Herzog didn't do a great job during the fight, I got absolutely destroyed. Oh, he didn't grab the fence, all this stuff. And I'm like, bro, sis, of course,

because we want to make sure that everybody gets involved here. What are you doing? Like, I'm not talking about the fence grab of the lack there. I've had nothing to do with it. The whole thing that I had the issue with was Herzog going in there and making contact with the fighters. And when you do that, like OSP said in a statement that he gave us, that's a pause. It's a pause or the fight's over.

So I totally understand where he's coming from. And I don't know if it gets overturned, but I think, I mean, I don't know. I haven't seen anything quite like this in this kind of position where it's like about the referee and not about the fighter. And he's got a gripe. So we'll see what happens there. But it certainly changed things in the fight. and be that as a May. Tanner Bozer deserves to shine.

Great performance. Great first round. He got his opening in the second, blasted his way to a win. So I like Tanner a lot. I think he's got a very high ceiling in this division. I think he's only going to get better. I'm ready to give him another vet test.

I want to throw him in there with Big Ben, A.K. I want to throw him in there with Big Ben and see if he can add that name to his resume. So he's got something. He's a good fighter, good stand-up. He's got Hartford-Days. He's great on the mic. That's my pick. that's the one that's the one that's the one uh again controversial or not like we said there's

there's going to be an appeal he's back in the w column he's back in the w column uh he did the uc of favor uh by you know doing this quick turnaround and stepping into fight uh pretty dangerous guy maybe a smaller opponent but a pretty dangerous guy and uh and did himself a favor by kind of getting that the bitter taste of that alitlil latifi split decision loss out of his mouth a lot of fighters don't get that opportunity a lot of fighters might kind of stew on it you know um so good for him for I don't even know I'd love to know how this opportunity came about because it's again it wasn't a heavyweight fight originally but I guess OSP really wants to stay on the card so so yeah so that happened but yeah I know Ben Rothwell's the way to go a great

matchup of styles um yes Rothwell is more experienced but Bozer has has plenty of pre-UFC experience and it's actually I'm just looking at seven UFC fights so far since this joining the promotion so he's been getting busy yeah big Ben's the way to go I don't think a lot of people are going to argue against that okay what did is the deepest most absurd division in MMA right now? Let me think. Let's see. You know, your average plebeian, let's say, I'm going to make up a fan.

Let's say, no, no, let's just say his name is Jed. Let's say just out of nut, Jet. You know, your typical simple-minded MMA fan, well, you know, might be like, oh, it's lightweight, oh, it's always lightweight. Lightweight's been the deepest, toughest division for like the last 10 years. Like, yeah, that might have been true once about time. It's in a great division. It's always a great division.

But these days, Mike, you've got to be talking about 135. That is the correct answer. It is Bannamweight, AK, and Timor Valleyev gets a huge win over Hione Barcelos. The fight was awesome. It was as expected. Dana White thought we didn't know about this fight

when we all knew about this fight. In fact, we all knew about it so much. It got bumped to the main card because this was a prelim fight until the internet went wild, and then it got bumped to the main card as it should have been, it got fight of the night, as expected. I will say, okay, I scored this fight for Hione Barcelos.

I thought he might have gotten out-volumed in the third, but he landed the harder and cleaner shots in the third. Damage goes to Barcellos to me, but that's my silliness, certainly not a robbery, certainly no issue with Valiaf getting the nod. And again, I have an issue with the scoring. One judge gives Barcellus a 10-8 when it should have been a 10-8 across the board.

So at worst, this should have been a draw for Barcellos, in my opinion, because, I mean, the difference to you to 109 and the 108 is just, it's ridiculous. We need to do something about scoring, but I'm not going to complain about this every single time we talk about these fights. But Vali of Once a Top 15 guy, A.K., are you ready to give it to him? I am. I am. I was looking back a little bit first, but then I realized I really wanted to see him fight.

Well, first I had one name in mind and then I forgot this guy's an opponent. My first thought was Song Yadong. I thought Song Yon, I thought Song Yon, perfect fight for him. Then I remembered Song of Dong is fighting Casey Kenney, UFC 265, August 7th. So I think either of those guys, I think I think the winner of that fight, that's the way to go. I believe Song, I believe they both have a number next their name. Excuse me. And I don't recall which one's higher right now.

I think Song might still be higher. But Kenny, you know, we've said for the longest time is a future title contender. Song had a bit of a slip up in his last fight, but I think still looks like a guy who could contend him super young. Both guys are really young. And I think Valiev is Is properly rated right now Some people might be surprised That we're kind of pushing him so far up

Considering he's just got a second UFC win He had their weird fight with Trevin Jones Which again, he probably could have won in the first round We're not for some odd officiating decisions So he could be three in now in the OCE right now And he came into the UFC with a lot, a lot of hype behind him Just like classic blue chip hype So for me he's I don't want to say he's

3 and 0 because I don't want to take away Trayvon Jones coming back and doing what you know doing what he did but You know you can only fight with the referee allows right so I think this is the right game I'm not going top 10 yet I'm going he these guys need to fight for that top 15 spot still and then after that winner of that clearly clearly Get someone in the top 10 if they can can shake a name out of there but yeah so UFC 265 that's when we'll find out I think who valet have fights Yeah I'm gonna call him two oh and one because that I believe was overturned No contest. It was. Which is silly.

I mean, it's just silly with the whole marijuana thing. Luckily, we don't have to deal with that anymore. It's so dangerous, Mike. I know. Gosh, poor Valley. I'm amazed Valley Up to do it as well as he did.

I know. Unbelievable. I'm ready to give him a top 15 guy, A.K., and I kind of feel bad them throwing this name out there as an opponent because I feel for him. Cody Stamen is the guy. Oh, yes. You got to feel for him a little bit because this guy has.

fought an absolute murderer's row of like wily veterans now champions, up and comers. And now you've got to go from a Rob to Walsh Willey to Timor Valley of. That is not fun, but somebody's got to do it. And unfortunately for Cody Stamen, he's in this position right now. So that's where I meant. I'm going with Cody Stamen, the number 15 ranked Stamen to welcome Timor Vallev, potentially to the top 15.

Now, A.K. Go ahead, sir. Cody, I would say, I don't think there's one fight that he has been favored in. I'd have to look at the odds. I'm just looking at his UFC resume. I know he wasn't favored against Terry and Ware. Tom Dukin-Wa, he definitely wasn't favored against. Brian Carraway, I'd be surprised if he was.

Alchemy Sterling, he definitely wasn't. I'm just going up. Alejandro Turbo Perez, maybe. I'd have to look that one up. Song Yadong, I don't think he was favored. Brian Kelleher, maybe. And then I know his last two fights he wasn't. Marabh Voschfili and Jimmy Rivera.

He was not favorite against either of those guys. So yeah, when you talk about a guy who's people, again, another guy, like a look at his record. It's like, oh, five, three and one. Like a very, it's modest. It's like he's fought nothing but guys who are expected to beat his ass. And Valia, I bet you would be a two to one favorite in a matchup if that matchup was made. So it would be right in line with how they booked him. Yeah, I'm looking up the history right now.

He was a big favorite in his, in his debut. debut he became a pretty almost a favorite over terran wear minus 305 yeah he's a big favorite oh i thought could i remember taran wear oh i got oh sorry taran war was on a bit of a a little bit of a little bit of a little bit okay so there we go yeah uh duke and waugh became the favorite at minus 175 he was same became a minus 160 favorite against caraway did he okay he's a dog against sterling uh he's a pretty big favorite against alexo perrez okay i can see that uh massive dog against songy dung uh he was favorite he was favored almost a two and a half to one favorite against Brian

Callagher yeah favored against Jimmy Rivera was he oh no slight dog it was like basically a pick him and if he fought Ascar Ascar he would have been a six to six to one favorite okay and then Rob we know he was a massive dog massive underdog on that one so okay I may I may have overstated it but I

but still you're right you make a great point a lot of the fights yeah a lot of the fights I think he was the underdogs now AK per the official onto the next one rules if a fight does not have a clear winner and loser officially we just don't get to make any matchups for those fighters

and we're talking about Andre Feely who looked absolutely sensational until his finger accidentally got into the eye of Daniel Paneda and hashtag MMA rears its ugly head yet again a.k.a. No contest that one ending really

sucked. Did it not? That like in a weekend that had a lot of great moments and storylines, this was probably, this is one of the worst things that happened the entire weekend from an unfortunate standpoint. Is it not? And seeing Daniel Pan, Innovated Wars, Daniel Paneda clearly wanted to continue fighting. He clearly couldn't. That camera was right up and close. He could see his left eye was not opening up. It was not opening up. I know he said he could see. God bless him, he tried to guess how many fingers the cage side physician was holding up. They asked him twice. You know,

they covered up the one good eye and they asked him how many fingers are my holding up twice you could tell what the first time there was a big pause and you're like okay he probably can't see and then the second time clearly guessing uh at dan pananaid is so tough he really did he said he said right after he was like i was getting i was getting i was getting i was getting effed up uh you know and he wants to run it back but he knows he was getting he was getting being this time so yeah it's super tough break for feely who was starting to live up to like exactly what i said um pre-fight i was like i think this is the beginning of a run for him uh and he looked it like he looked like a class above pinnaker

And then, you know, the eye poke happens. And the stoppage completely justified. You just can't go on after that. But yeah, real bummer for both guys. Yeah. Philly looks tremendous. Panetta, I don't know how this man is not human. He's not human.

How did you get out of that first round? I have no idea. Oh, yeah. But Phelia looked tremendous. And hopefully, you know, they kind of treat him as the victor in a way and move him up against, unfortunately, featherweight is ridiculous too. So he's not going to have, he's going to have a step up. but I ain't going to be an easy one, that's for sure.

But let us head to the welterweight division, aka Tim Means has not won three straight. He defeats Nicholas Dalby. He survived a late surge from Mr. Dalby, if you will, and AK, something tells me we are on the same page of this one because I will say I was the co-conductor alongside of you of this train, and then I hopped off like two weeks later. But now, at least in my eyes, all aboard once again.

What is it? Unless you're the one jumping off the train this time around. I think you better go first because I actually went in a different direction than you're expecting. Oh my gosh. No. I know. We're not lobbying for Robbie anymore. I'm lobbying for Robbie.

I am absolutely lobbying for Robbie. Robbie Lawler, that's the fight. Just do the damn thing. He's won three in a row. Give him Robbie Lawler. Let's just see what happens and try to boost him up a little bit. Lobby for Robbie is back, AK. That's means I have one issue.

And if it happens, amazing. I'm not, I'm not lobbying against Robbie. That's never going to happen. But I'm sort of not actively lobbying for Robbie right now. So the thing for the thing is, now that he has won three straight, I feel like we can start, like, actually. And I know, I know, again, means the point of his career where he doesn't necessarily care about this. But like kind of pushing him up to more active guys that are in the top 15. So while a fight with Robbie Lauder would be amazing, I think he's earned himself fighting against someone who's currently in the wind call.

them. I feel I just going to hate me for picking this and not going with a lot of robbery, but I'd love to see Tim Means fight, Santiago-Ponsignio. I think it's a good fight. I think they're both experienced guys. It's one of those fights and surprise has never even been booked. I was looking back. I'm like, did I miss this booking? And it was like canceled for whatever reason. I think they're right around the same part of their careers right now. The fight would be awesome. It would move one of them, not to the top 10, but like top 13, top 12, maybe keep Ponzanibio there. So I want to see there for means. I don't know if he ever fights for a UFC title. I don't know if it matters, but I think he's earned now on three straight wins against

good opponents. I think he's earned the chance to at least get back in that conversation, make one last really, really honest run, run to the tops. So, and again, I know a fight, I win over Robbie Loller might even do more for him because Robbie's such a big name. But we're talking about just guys who are actually active in fighting and winning, him in Ponznipeo. That's where I went. I'm sorry, America. I'm sorry. Wow. I apologize.

I can't believe this. I know. Can I just say that Tim Means is like the Shelton Benjamin of the UFC where he doesn't have like the limelight that he should have? He's not going to get the promotional push that he probably should get. Because he got a great story, but no one, the UFC never really tells it. But when his name is on a fight card against anybody, people are like, yes, let's watch Tim Means fight. I think he's a very underrated guy. on this roster and he's a very valuable guy on this roster he's not going to like you said he's

probably not going to be a top five guys probably not going to fight for a title but he's a very valuable piece of this welterweight puzzle uh just because he's such an exciting guy and he's really good and he's on a little bit of a surge right now so good for tim means whatever he gets I'm watching but Robbie lawler says he's ready to come back this year so if he is if that is the case I'm lobbying once again but let us move ahead to Hinato Moikano who who got back in the wind calm with a just a straight drubbing of poor Jai Herber. The fight went pretty much exactly the way I thought it would. I went on the people's pre-fight show and I said,

Hanata Moikano is walking out of the apex with a win and a bonus, and he shouldn't, he should have gotten a bonus. He should have gotten a bonus for that performance. He did not. And you know what, A.K., there have been so many times where the name I'm going to say has been thrown out either by you, mostly the listeners, and Jose Young's on other shows. And I haven't necessarily agreed with it, but I'm all in on it now coming out of Saturday.

So give me Hanato Moikano versus Alexander Hernandez, aka it makes a heck of a lot of sense. To me, my best friend, this is the time to throw Hernandez in there and give Moikano the opportunity to boost his stock a little bit. because Hernandez, he's on a little bit of a slump right now, but he still has a bit of a name, you know, mostly because of the Soroni shenanigans, but yeah, I think it's time for that fight.

Yeah, I like it. I actually have, people don't think I'm crazy. Again, you know what? So Alexander Hernandez's spot in the rankings, you know,

was messed up from day one because of the Darius win, right? And suddenly became impossible to kind of calibrate where he should be. I think some rankings have kind of figured it out, you know, now that he's had a lot more experience in that one fight, kind of figured out where to put him. I also have him like hovering around like the top 25 people might disagree people could have anywhere out could easily have him outside of that

I definitely have my kano outside the top 25 now he has the talent I think he's a top 20 talents no question we saw that at featherweight we've seen it in a couple of his wins at lightweight but the competition he's fought at lightweight I don't think is uh I don't want to say great I was not not that accomplished it's not that accomplished compared to some of the people ahead of him in my in my mystery ranking so I'm going with a very kind of boring almost kind of out there pick, like one that has like no heat, I want to see him fight Christos Yagos. It's, again, not a sexy matchup. I understand that, but Christos has found himself in a nice patch of success in the UFC,

four out of five, his last five appearances. And again, a good test for Moikano. I'm just not sure where Moikano is yet at 155. Again, he's, we know how good he can be. He could be in the top 10 someday. I firmly, it would never shock me to see Hanata Moikano in the top 10, 15 some day. It's a long way to get there. I mean, that would be late by the end of 22 if he gets the right fights.

But he could get there. But I want to see him really work his way up sort of the, in a slow way. So Hernandez would be a bit of a big of a jump for sure if he won that fight, but I'm going a little more middle of the pack right now. Let us now head to the wild card round where we are going to match up one fighter that has not been discussed in terms of of future plans, and we're going to do it now. So, AK, who is your UFC Vegas 30 wildcard fighter? Well, it's funny you asked, Mike, because earlier you said, we don't match up fighters who are in draws or no contests.

So I'm cheating. I use my wild card to cheat to circumvent our rules. I had to go with Feeley. He won that. He finished him with the IFOC. Mike, all right, he finished him with one of the deadliest, one of the deadliest of the traditional martial arts you know if if uh ufc were a real sport uh this which fight would just be this would be a tk o via i poke um but no i i think he showed enough much like

when we kind of were matched making for leon edwards after the uh bala mohammed fight where we're like okay the fight didn't go the distance but we we have a pretty good idea of where it would have gone so i am i did view him as the winner i do want to match him up with someone it was a little bit tricky to find the right opponent for him. I want to give him a top 15 guy. There just aren't a lot of names that made sense for him right now. Like I say, it's one of the best of it. And so everyone who's the top 15 at Featherweight is just the elite of the elite. And that includes a guy, I don't know if he's elite of the elite, but he's certainly in my top 10. He's been having his own trouble, establish himself as a contender, and I think this is a good

matchup for him. So I would like to see Feeley take on Danny Gay. Wow, I like it Yeah, I think that could be fun I am going With Shafcott-Rak-Mata F, K. Oh, oh, ho. I think this guy is the real deal In fact, I think he's ready

For a giant step up right now And I think he can He is a very good chance Of passing this test now Was that a crack at Michelle Praseres's height disadvantage Wow, do you think about that How dare you, Michael? I didn't mean that.

A.K. mentioned him, Michelle. So if you're going to go out to somebody, don't go after me. Now, I understand that this individual that I'm pairing Rachmanoff with might not be overly thrilled with this piece of business because this is a deep and loaded division. He's coming off a win against an unranked guy. This is a name that you mentioned not long ago, AK. He just fought a surging prospect who came up short in his bid to get a huge win in a fight that will be mentioned in the fight of the year conversation. I want Rachmanov versus Santiago Ponsinibio, AK.

That's the fight I want to see, because I want to see, I want to see Rock Monoff in there with an absolute dog. And no one, no one really, I mean, Neil Magni, if they didn't nail Magny, I'm fine. I want to see Magny Shemayev.

If they can't get that one done, you want to throw Neil Magne in there with Rockmanoff. I'm cool with that too, but I got to see what happens, like the second half of a fight between Rockmanov and Santiago Ponzi. Zanibio, just to see if Rachmanov can get into that deep water, get into that dog mode against a guy like that who ain't going away.

I want to see it. That's the fight I want to see. I thought that immediately. As soon as the fight was over, I was like, man, can you imagine Rock Monoff, Ponzo? That's just a ridiculous fight. I would love, this is one of those situations where I wish we had a Dana White come up press conference after. I would love to know what he thinks of Rachmanov.

And we knew right away, you know, if you want to compare him to, you know, Welterweight that was hyped up, we just mentioned Shemayev. We knew right away on Fight Island how excited Danaway and the UFC were about Shemayev. I mean, he's got the full treatment. I'm not sure if Dana White knows who Rachmanab is. They may have to show him a picture of a short clip of the fight to remind him. Because this guy, like you said, he is the real deal. I have him in my top 25 already at Welterweight, which is not easy to get into when you're only two UFC fights into your career. Maybe we're overrating him.

I don't know. But again, I've seen some of his pre-UFC stuff. Obviously, his first two UFC fight took out of great. He took out a veteran in Cowboy, Cowboy Alibara. I wish I could offer my own matching suggestion for him. It wouldn't surprise me if they gave him a name like Ponsenibio. It also wouldn't surprise me if they gave him another guy to kind of, another guy with a closer level of UFC experience to him, that he can kind of, for lack of a better phrase, like, style on.

because I mean there's not a lot of guys are what you can style on. It's a very, very tough division. But yeah, so I like to, I think puns and evil sounds great. I'd like to offer a counter. I just, I'm looking at the list here, and he's in a weird position because I jump over a lot more. I jumped over a bunch of guys with a lot more UFC experience. So for him to fight someone closer at his level of UFC experience, he'd have to go quite a bit far back in the rankings, I think. So, yeah, I'm very excited for what's next.

I just have no idea what it is. Yes. Yeah. And like I said this on the post-fight show that through many conversations I've had over the last year or so with his manager, Danny Rumenstein. And I think Danny put this on Twitter on Saturday. His client roster is ridiculous. He thinks Rachmanov could be the top guy in his entire roster. And Pieter Jan's there. Michael Kies is there. A lot of really talented fighters. One that we're probably going to mention with these listeners suggestions. as well, who made quite the impact in his Octagon debut on Saturday as well. So, yeah, I am all in on Rock Madov. I'm excited. And I don't.

Perzaris. What's that? It's never been finished. I know. This was 30th pro fight. He'd never been finished. He's probably like Gilbert Burns. Yeah. And he's never, he beat Gilbert Burns, I think. He submitted Alex Oliva in Prezarus and back-to-back fights. That's insane

for his first two UFC fights. His resume is, his resume is way better than Shemaiah. right now way better yeah it's not even close no argument it's not even close um bring it on shamiya uh hive bring it yeah i mean you could throw those if you're still out there yeah where are you where are you fight rock bottom calm out dare you uh do we have any check the tapes or mic checks or anything like that but we got two mic checks including one that literally just came in while we were oh no so one of them i at least had the chance to look over this other one it's gonna be

kind of unfiltered. So again, for our listeners, 12 and under, I apologize ahead of time. No, no, no, these are these people who, they mic check with love, Michael. They might check with love. So Thomas Collins from Twitter first wants to say, so we gave him a little bit of a hard time last week. He claims that he had called Ascarov versus Alex Perez. And I had said, well, do we really count this? Because he had actually said Ascarov versus Perez-Schnell winner. That fight fell through so then he wanted credit for like saying well then technically i said ask rob versus prez and mike you were insistent that uh maybe we don't give him credit in that situation so he says this is my response he says i called for ask robbers the winner of prez and shnell

i was not calling for any one of the two fighters unlike mike because i think you would defend it i think you would make an example and you're like you know you're like oh i don't get credit for this matchup unlike Mike who was suggesting a fighter, and he says he can't remember who, who should fight Yorah Hall or Sean Strickland, and therefore he was not being clear about who his matchmaking choice was. My matchmaking suggestion was a winner of a future fight, which would clearly be one fighter at the time I made the suggestion, and therefore I still call that a check the tape,

because I look forward to your response. I gave him a half a point. He should be happy with the half a point. And by the way, And by the way, this is a Sean Strickland thing because I said after Sean Strickland's last win that it just depended on whether Uriah Hall would be ready to come back quickly after the Chris Widman leg break incident. And I said if he was, if he did want to bounce right back and not wait to either rebook Wyden, which probably wasn't going to happen or take another fight, then Strickland was the guy. So, yeah. You know what?

I'm feeling generous today. It's a beautiful day here in Massachusetts. I am officially crediting because of the respectful response, and he's not wrong. I wouldn't say he's right, but he's not wrong. I'll give him a point. You get a point. You get him the full point. I'm giving him the full point.

Let me write him down on the check the tapes board. You're on. You made it. Mike, I thought we were going to use that half for ourselves. I thought we were going to just bank that half like Dana White does when there's a no contest or a draw on a cart. I've learned in life, in fatherhood, and husbandhood. You got to pick your battles. You got to choose which hills to die on.

I'm not dying on that one. So you get the point. Well, well put together argument. Good rebuttal. You enjoy your points, sir. Thomas Collins. I was going to use that half a point. That half a point was going to go towards a vacation.

This is our show. We can get half points for anything. That's not we don't have an infinite budget of points Mike. I don't know who you're talking to. We have a, we have a certain amount of points budgeted for, like, again, like a fight night card. We have a certain amount of points budgeted for each card. Anyway, Nate Andrews, okay, what was this? Oh, this is a, this is a, I think, gosh, I'm not involved in this.

This is a check the tapes for the post-fight show for last night. Oh, oh. I have, so this is Nate Andrews on Twitter. It says, I have a monumental, gigantic, shocking, and vital. Mike check if it's not too late. On the post fight show, Mike Casey and Jose were trying to think of comebacks of the year. I guess he says when you were discussing

Anzichuku and Marquez. Yes. He says he's honestly so steamed. He can't remember how it came up. Three of these brilliant, intelligent NBA journalists, I really should have read this before, three of these brilliant intelligent MMA journalists could not think of

Ola Vera Chandler when thinking of great comebacks this year. As much as Mr. Heck, a well-respected fellow New Englander and a fantastic MMA mind has talked about how much he loved that fight. I cannot believe he did not mention that fight. Oliver Chandler has to be comeback of the year

because the belt on the line, the major push Chandler was getting and the narrative of Charles quitting in fights being shifted in such a massive way. I'm shocked that Mike forgot to mention that fight. To Mr. Heck, I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. I cannot believe you just did that to me.

Okay, so he's he's not wrong he's he's probably right but it was one of those things where like the question pops up and there's so much going on by the way dealing with us for the entire entire day and night sometimes things slipped our minds and that was one of the things that slipped our minds um but if you're gonna if you're gonna mic check me we need to mic check everybody watch the post fight show and streamed it live because we asked for like sure all right if you think of something just like throw it at us Because sometimes we rely on stuff to, like, get the light bulb lit back up. And that didn't happen.

No one even mentioned that because we went on to, like, a whole other thing. I think the Rachmanoff thing came up and we were talking about that. And that was like 20 minutes by itself. But you're absolutely right. The correct answer is Charles Oliverer versus Michael Chandler. I don't know. The comebacks are a little different because, I mean, Oliver was on the brink of, I mean, being finished. Like if the referee had stepped in and stopped that fight, no one would have complained about it.

The fight between Marquez and Zichu was a little different. He wasn't really hurt in the first round, for being honest. He was down two rounds, no doubt about it. But, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. He was starting to turn around in the second. He was starting to turn around. Like, you could see the comeback coming.

You know what I mean? Yeah. But I will say. Yeah. And another thing I said on the post-fight show, which I'm stint. I'm completely sticking by and doubling down on. If you're going to fight Kennedy and Zuchuku, you better fight him right now. Like, you better fight this man now.

Yeah. Like, don't fight him in 2022 or 2020. Definitely don't fight him in 2023. You fight him now if you want to try to beat this man because he's only going to get better and better and better. Like his ceiling is very high. I picked Marquez to beat him and I was feeling pretty good about my pick until I saw the freaking standing body triangle in the first round.

I'm like, you're really going to just burn yourself out like this when you can just cruise to a win? Like, what are you doing? What are you doing? But I digress. Thank you for the Mike checks, gentlemen. Yeah, that was Nate Andrew. I love that Mike checks so much.

Mike, I'm going to give him a point out of my point salary. We are paid in onto the next one points. So, Nate, I love that so much. And it made me laugh. So I'm going to give you. And as Mike says, everything you said, completely accurate. So a point for you, Nate Andrews. Out of my, that's, Mike, don't worry.

That's coming out of my bag. Don't worry about that. So a point to Nate Andrews. No actual check the tapes. There weren't that many matchups of note that were announced this week, if I'm, if I can recall. So no check the tapes in that regard. We can move on to the listeners. To the peeps.

To the peeps we go. Standard disclaimer, guys. We prefer to talk about winners. We prefer to talk about mostly try to bring up unique matchups, though again, there's a lot of overlap. Please keep in mind, guys, fighters could already be booked. That happened a bunch of times this week, Mike. And so I'm not reading out. If you guys are wondering why, oh, why was it?

my response not read. You did not know that this person was already booked, so I didn't read it. You may have made some other mistake, weight class. They could have fought this person already. You forgot. Someone could be injured and we just don't, I mean, why even mentioned that then? And of course, most importantly, your pick might just be a do-do and we don't want to read it. So keep that mad, guys. If you send in something and it doesn't get read, you may have broken one of these rules. Yes. Let us begin with Brandon Nunez, who coined the hashtag Brown on Brown last week after Matt Brown's win. He said Jeremiah Wells after his great debut versus Chaos Williams.

That's just a sick, insane crazy fight right there. There's a lot of Williams mentions this. We need to get this amount of fight soon because I saw him. He was matched up with literally every, every, uh, Welchweight on this card. Shafcott, Rachmanov versus Ponziabio. Yes, that is absolutely the fight to make Brandon. Fili versus Dewadu, Volkov versus Jarzino.

I assume winner lose. Gan versus Steepi. So well done. Oh, boy. There's a lot of these. All right. Ronan Murphy. He even warned me new cards, so some picks are coming.

Moikana with great wins. So maybe Jerkar close since he got annihilated against Benil. So it would be a good name for Dracar if he wins. And a good name for Moikano if he wins. Tim means, I want him to fight Robert Loller. There you go. A annoyed about Fili versus Pineda, but definitely good decision to stop the fight.

Think Fili would have won. So he should get a step up. He already fought Siddegu, so sorry, you can't go with that one. Valle should fight Cody Stamen. I like it. Bozer should fight the Thai Tuva-Vasa versus Greg Hardy winner. What do you think about that, A.K. You said that's sorry for Bozer?

Bozer versus the Tuva-Hardy winner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'd like I'd prefer Tuvaasa. But I think either one probably wouldn't make sense. I'm not against it. But Ben Rothwell is the way to go. And Ronan Murphy, who, by the way, we're listening this whole thing down.

Would like Serogon's Seerogon versus John Jones? That man, is this a real? This is multiple people mentioned this. And the first person we mentioned that thought it was crazy. I guess it's not crazy. I mean,

there's some... Yeah, that's what it like... Get in there and get in there and fight a headway, please. If John just gets, if Johns is just like, I just want to fight, just give me anybody. That's kind of what he would want to see. Brian Chambers had a ball tournament. today since Nova Scotia finally started

lifting restrictions. Ah, Brian does a fellow Canadian. There you go. Shut us. So I missed the fights, but wanted to throw up four matchups. Gone versus the loser of whoever fights Francis for the title next. Bozer versus Walt Harris. Step back for Harris that he needs, and if Bozer wins,

he finally gets that win he really needs. Runback, Paneda versus Feeley, Rachmanoff versus the King of Kung Fu. Salikoff. That's a good fight, too. I'm okay with that one. he's a top 15 guy so that works for me Robbie Ryan

good day gentlemen this week's comments on UFC Vegas 30 don't know why Volkov gave up on the early success with attacking Gons lead leg Zero Gond versus John Jones would be entertaining as hell but I think Gond versus Steepay will be the next appropriate matchup Tanner Bozer looked great but still question marks on his grappling

heavy weight is so shallow he could still face a ranked opponent like Bagoi Ivanov or Walt Harris next though A.K. I don't love the Harris. I got to have some Harrises too. I don't love the Harris match up. Because again, but we have been, we have been campaigning for a long time for them to just give Harris someone that he can just knock the hell out. And that I do not think that is Tanner Bozer. Yeah, I think it's more just let's not get him in there with the guy who could take him down and just smush him. Yeah. Like, let's give him a chance. I think Tanner Bozer

would beat him also. I think Tanner would knock him out. But like, he's really, he's so tricky and so fast on the feet. Like, that's not, no. I mean, Waltair is really fast, too, for heavyweight, I just say. But it's a stand-up fight, and I think that's why people kind of want to see it. Like, it gives Walt more of a chance, just because... Give Walt, like Chris Barnett or, you know, I mean, we know we want Chris Burnett, Rocky Martinez,

but I don't know. Give him one of them, the winner of that fight. Let's see, Andre Feely versus Shane Burgos. Why not? Feli, a very popular choice here, even though it ended. And just quickly, on Porier versus McGregor upcoming, Logics says Dustin, but I have a feeling Connor something up his sleeve. So, Robbie Ryan's right?

What does that mean? Our man, sneakers flippers, back in our lives. Our big friend from Italy, Francesco. Gone versus Ingano. He's just going right for the belt. He's the true number one contender. Some people want it. Bozer, I saw this a couple of times.

Bozer versus Alexander Romanov. Yeah, I'm okay with that. I saw it mentioned as well. Yeah, not my favorite matchup for Bozor. Valley versus Stamen means versus Alex Morono. Moikano versus Nazrat Haqparas, Rachmanov versus Jake Matthews Julia Avila versus Jessica Rose Clark

Jeremiah Wells versus Impa Kasanganii Yeah, Avala versus Jessica Rose Clark is I think that's That's the best matchup I think I saw I suggested this week that I wish I thought of myself Because Jesse Jess is She did have a knee injury after her last flight But I believe she had said way back when

She was expecting a mid-2020 return Obviously we're mid-2020 now Even if she's not ready now You could probably give it a couple of months and you know fingers crossed everything she seems to be back in training from what I can see so yeah hopefully that that to me I think is my favorite favorite listener suggestion that I saw pop up a couple of times we've a first timer and I apologize if I get this wrong Cahan Halanan I like these where it's like full description and all this stuff yes hey we love

we like this hey Mike long time listener to your shows if you are a opinions on matchups if you are interested. We are always interested. That's the basis of this program. If Jones really sits out for another year and Ingana Lewis 2 happens soon, I'd love to see Gond fight the winner. Otherwise, him and Steepa makes sense if Steepa would take it. But who knows with heavyweight? I like Valley versus Damon and Rivera because he deserves a top 15 fight and they're both

coming off losses, so aren't really in the position to turn down any fights. I'm still going to lobby for Robbie with Tim Means, but for some reason I'd really like to see how him versus the James Krause would play out. I like that idea as well. I'm sure he'd want someone ahead of him in the rankings, though. Also, I'd like to just say, I hate the Rockmana versus Hamzaa Chimae matchup I've seen floating around social media. Although I don't think the UFC would make that fight anyways.

Maybe in a year or two they can be fighting for the title. Finally, I just want to say that the BTL tag team match at this week was just peak entertainment. And I would agree with that. What else do we got? Alec. Inilion. Unfortunately, you missed the card for a job interview, which you got. Congratulations, Alec.

We appreciate that. Oh, way to go. Well done. Well done, sir. But I think Arlowski should get Volkov. Okay. I don't know if he'll win, but Arlowski deserves one last chance for all the years he's put in. Sounds like something that will happen.

Okay. Christian Lee. I think I get a few more. Hey, Mike and AK, hope you all are well. Hope you are well as well, Christian. We're not the one lightweight champion, Christian. Not the one night. Every time I think like that, we finally got him.

We finally got him. Haven't contributed in a few weeks, but still been listening. Rachmanov looked great, possibly one win away from getting a ranked guy. How about Rachmanoff versus Marono? I saw, yeah, I saw people suggest that one. Yeah, Marono is, you know, you talk about means being an important piece in the World Trade Division. I think Marano is one of those guys now, too.

I think he's, you can match him up. against up and comers. You can match them up against veterans. You need guys like the great, what's it? The Great White, the Great White to keep that division together. So yeah, good from Ron. By the way, and putting himself in that position, he fought himself into that position where he can get big fights, he can get up and comers.

Way to go. We already, yeah, we said that one. Nzachuquo versus Mikhail Olegzechuk. Don't mind that one. Yeah, yeah. I like it. Yeah, that we got. Tanner Boza versus Jared van dera from our friend Matt Reve.

belly. That was a nice solid win, but I think that would be a fun fight. Give him some more confidence. Also, gone versus Stepe, even though he wants to bulk up, this fight didn't do much for the heavyweight division for me. I think him versus Stepe would be good for the division. I wouldn't hate him stepping into fight Curtis if something happens there as well. I agree. Will. Our man, Will, we already said that one, but he said, Tanner Bozer versus Chris Dachas at some point. I know Chris has a fight. It was funny. Abdurahimov. Abderahimov. Sean Bradley.

He's going different. No MMA, Tiafimo versus Loma 2, please. There you go. Hey, we welcome all matchup suggestions. Write it back. And then I will read this one. This is from our friend, Magic Mighty 67. He sent this to both of us.

Hi, chaps, not sure if I got this in on time, as I'm not sure if you're recording, as it was an early finish on the Saturday. Also, I know you don't like when I message you both, but also you seem to get upset when I message one of the other, and I wouldn't want to offend either of you. It's magic muddy mart, of course. Hello, sir. Well, thank you. And you can send them however you'd like.

We're cool. Only two for me. Gone versus Lewis and gone a loser. He's right. I mean, another one throwing him right in the title fight. And Rachmanov versus the winner of Nico Price versus Michel Paheda, Rachmanov, I'm telling you, will be a champ by the end of 20. He's my favorite prospect right now. Much love, guys.

That's actually end of 2023. That's actually a pretty conservative. Yeah, I would not bet against that either. Yeah, I like that. So yeah, there you go. That's mine. On to you, my friend. All right.

As you mentioned, again, I don't want to read all the listeners suggestions. I can tell you little guys. Don't worry, I keep track from all guys. I will give you credit if some of these fights are made. Gone versus Miochich and lobbying for Robbie, were by far the two most common suggestions. So again, I apologize to Robbie lobbyists for not being fully on the train. Again, I'm not against it, guys.

I'm not against it. I've just kind of moved on from it for now. But yeah, the two biggest by far. Valleyev versus Stamen, also one that came up a lot. I think that makes a lot of sense, and I almost wish I'd pick that one. For Moikano, I don't think I heard this in your listening suggestions, Mike, but I may have just missed it. Moikano versus Sarukyan. Huh.

That's a tough fight for, well, again, Surrycan is a tough fight for anybody. That's a big, but I actually like, like, like I said, I don't feel like Moikano has separated himself from the middle of the pack at 1.25 just you do think he has to do more tough fights before we start talking about him against top 20, top 15, top 10 guys. So I like it. And a few listeners did as well. A Surrogene ranked? And I don't think so. I think he, no, because he fought, he lost to Maca, he lost to Macon. in his first flight he he shouldn't be ranked I don't think he would have been if he had won his

his UFC debut and I just don't think he's been he is ranked I mean if he he what is he number 50 he's number 15 oh he's right at the door okay so so again I don't I don't think I have him that high up in my rankings I'm gonna I'm gonna check see I don't see this is where I oh gosh what can I find him our oh no no no it's bad it's fine oh no see I only have him at 24th in my rankings. So I don't have him near the top 15 yet if we're being real. And I say this as a big fan of surgery.

But I think people know by now I need to see at least like three or four UFC fights. Oh, he's had four. Oh, he's not three fight win street. I stand by whatever it is I just said. Without justifying it, Mike. I stand by it without justification. What a tough stretch that is from Wicano

to fight Fiziv. Herbert was like, and then Sarukian, who, man. He's got the talent for it. He's got the talent. He's one of the deadliest guys in the ground. He's a great kickboxer. I know he said he's like kind of maybe fell too much in love with his striking. But he is actually a really good striker. So it's a tool he has.

He beat Calvin Cater in a fight. Yeah, right? And Jeremy Stevens too. Are we getting mixed up someone else? Didn't he beat up Jeremy Stevens? Or am I thinking of? I think you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He won it. Yeah, he won decisions against Jeremy Stevens and Cater. But yeah, Surukin came up a lot, and I like that. And the one that the most popular pick for Julie Aibola was not Jessica Rose Clark. Though again, that's my favorite matchup. Lena Landsberg. People throughout Lena Landsberg. She has been on a break for a while.

She had a child earlier this year, I think in March or April, with a fellow, with a former UFC fighter, Akira Khorasani. And I don't know. I don't know what her plans are to return to competition. She may just be enjoying motherhood for now. But yeah, but I think the schedules could line up. Rankings-wise, sort of where they are, like, as far as prestige and accomplishments. I like it. So that one came up a lot.

I prefer Jessica Rose-Clark. I think that's the way to go whenever she's ready to fight. But Lena Landsberg came up a lot. Any other matchups that, Philly versus Alaskasers is one that came up, which is one of those. I swore they'd fought, and apparently they haven't. Feele v. Landovinata was one that came up a couple of times. That's a good, that's fun. That'd be so.

God, Lando, Vanada. not ever as anyone it's just so much fun um and sachuku a lot of matchups uh misha serkenov i think is a little too much too soon uh but like you said if i was misha i would take that fight now if i'm misha circunov i'm taking that insichuku fight now as opposed to a year from now when who knows where where uh how ensichu will have developed as a prospect um jeremiah wells people want to see him versus ameev which i like i'm a fan of the you replace a fighter you beat their opponent and then you take you know you kind of took their spot now you get to fight them and take their actual spot in the rankings so I thought that was that was a good one uh anyone

any others really jump out at me uh Charles Rosa versus Mike Trasano I think that'd be good that'd be cool and people had Damir Hazzovich versus comma worthy so those are some consensus at least two people pick those now try and go through quickly through some of these I've got a lot of newbies this week I'm very excited first in our emails the emails are back Zach Laugh is our first time emailer He wrote his thing in all caps I will not shout it out I imagine he was shouting

So I have Zach, I apologize I will not read with the appropriate enthusiasm He likes Boza versus Espino Moikano versus Damir Asmagulov And I don't like this one Shavkat Rakmanov versus Miguel Baezha Keep those guys away from each other for now Yeah

Rockmanov is ahead of him right now So you gotta yeah keep those He is he is Monop is ahead of him. Oh, yeah. Not in my rankings, sir. Not in my rankings. Yeah, two submission, two finishes, two, two submission wins over those two guys.

This, I mean, in your first two fights. He's like a foot taller than Priseres. So what? It's a, God made him the way he is. Just as God made me, sir. And Baez is, unfortunately, even though he fought a very tough fight and it's one of the best fights of the year. He's coming off a loss. Sure. I'm not against it. I'm not against it.

But I just want to keep it. Yeah, I don't want to see them fight each other though. I'm with you on that. Right, right. Another new emailer, Tom Roder, first of all, he says, happy birthday. It's not my birthday. It's never my birthday. But I appreciate the positivity, as always. Coming in with Bosewold Harris, which again, we've said kind of, I'm not a fan of it. Feeley versus Chas Skelly, another one for me, you can file under. I didn't know these guys hadn't fought before. He said, just throw in Panetta with Charles Rosa, you know, two guys in the same card.

And Moikano versus John MacDessi. I think that would be a real... Well, MacDessie has a pretty good takedown defense. So I don't mind. Maybe we get to see K1 Moikano again, much to the disappointment, I think, of a lot of his fans who just want to see him,

just get his Damien Maya on people. And Tristan Gordet is back. He had a message... Oh, he has a message for you. Okay. It's not... I don't think it's a mic check. I had to...

Three mic checks this week. He likes... He likes Philly versus Billy Quarantillo. Cornillo, is it Quarantillo or Quarantillo? Tillow. Quintillo was supposed to fight Herbert Burns. Burns tore his ACL. That's my note, by the way, for everyone else who's sending in Herbert Burns suggestions.

He has torn his ACL. That means I would imagine anywhere from, we probably don't see him again for at least nine months. I'm not an expert on these things, but generally torn ACLs, you're out for a long time. So please, people, no more Herbert Burns suggestions. Let's just hope the man has a speedy recovery. But I like that fight, Billy Corantillo and Rachmanov, Raqmanov, excuse me, versus Randy Brown. Tristan's message for you, Mike.

He says, Real quick, real quick, though. Billy Q is now fighting Gabriel Manitas on that card instead. That's right. That's right. He did get a new opponent, Mowgli. Tristan says, Alex, tell Mike, heck, that Jose Young's was right. I don't know what this is in reference to, by the way.

He says, I don't feel, I did something, a matchup with Bayez or something? I don't know. He says, I don't feel Ponsenbio. will take that fight and only wants to fight up. He's already fought a prospect in Baezza because of his loss against Li Jingliang. Oh, because you're saying Rachmanov and Ponziadio, right? Correct. Okay, okay, right.

So he says he's already fought a prospect of Baeza because of his loss against Li Jing Liang. I'm not saying that's not a great fight. I just feel that Ponziabio wants to pick up where he left off before the injuries. Remember, Ponziabio was on a seven-fight win streak before that loss against Li-Jing Liang. So this is two insta-mic checks today. Right, but I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. Like, he got, he got deaded by Li Jing Liang.

And I know it was like, it wasn't fun. Like, we wanted the comeback story and all that. But this doesn't change the fact he got knocked dead on ABC in front of the world. Like, that happened. I'm sorry. Beating Baezza, he's back in the top 15. And that's great. And maybe he shouldn't even be in the top 15 after being knocked out like that and beating a prospect.

And you know what? You are in this division. A lot has changed since you left, sir. A lot has changed. You're going to have to fight these guys. I'm sorry. You think Kevin Lee wants to fight Sean Brady? Guess what?

He has to fight him. You know, he's not fighting him July 10th, but the plan is to rebook that fight. He's got to fight him. He's to fight for a time for an interim title. Okay, Mike, you're, please, the levels. I'm getting upset. I'm sorry.

You are answering a new level of, I've never heard you, get that high. You're going to get the high before. I know. I've just, listen, you've had enough. Consenibu does not have any power in this scenario. I'm sorry. Like, he's not a big star.

He's not Colby. He's dot Connor. He's not. Like, you're going to have to fight this guy. I'm sorry. If they offer it, you're going to have to say yes, or you are screwed. Don't apologize. You were very cordial with our first two mic checks.

And I was very impressed by your patience and your understanding. This is three mic checks now that in one episode, we've never had this before. It's clearly, it's gotten to you. And I think your defense is, is appropriate. Tristan, thank you for the mic check, but I award you no points and may God have mercy. And don't ever start off a mic check by saying Jose was right. Automatic, no points. That may cost you a point of the future.

I'm taking the half point back and now we get another half point for the bag. Oh, there we go. So it all bounced. Boom. We came out ahead, really. Just kidding, Tristan. We love you. For sure.

Happy to see you back this week. We'll go to Instagram. I normally start with the new people, but I like this guy's comment so much. I'm going to save him for the last of the Instagrams. Just a handful here. Michael Conifrey wants to see Hanata Moikano versus Mason Jones. It would be fun grappling battle. He's trying to get a hashtag going here.

We struggled a little bit. So he wants to see Rachmanov versus Sean Brady. Brady, of course, now losing out on the Kevin Leifite. Mike, you're not happy with it. How about when you hear the hashtag for it, though, we workshopped this, hashtag Sean Kov Broadmanov. It's not, you know, it doesn't it doesn't roll off the tongue.

I admit as I, now that I, this is actually the first time I've said it out loud. And I, it's not great. I, uh, I dig the hashtag. It's hilarious. It makes no sense. Like, it's just, it's so out of left field. But that's why I like it so much.

Listen, I, I've seen that, that matchup thrown out a lot. why? Why do it now? This isn't Bannamweight. This is not the Bannamweight division. You don't need to match up these two guys right now. Like, you can make that fight down the road. Top five, build these guys up a little bit. Brady beats Lee. Rock Monoff beats Ponsonibio.

Maybe they even give him Neil Magne or something. Get to that title eliminator spot, then throw those guys in there. Or at least like have them both be in the top 10. That fight will happen. And I'm very interested in seeing it. Just not right now. And Michael Conafrey, when it happens, I will remember this. I will remember this.

You're just a little too ahead of the game right now. Matt Bradbury, always coming in with some good stuff. Hadzavish versus Devonte Smith. He says just match up Prachnao with OSP. Again, two guys found the same card. And then he had a couple of future suggestions. He says he wants to see Covington versus Kamsat Shemaya. He says, hear me out.

Someone commented on the A side. Whoever beats Kamsat steals his hype. Colby's already got a lot of hype and is being denied a teleshot. A win for either man is an immediate teleshot will raise their status greatly, or just give either of both Balal. I mean, but Colby's probably just waiting for his teleshot. I don't see why he should risk it, but that would be a money fight for sure someday. And he's also campaigning right now for Tony Ferguson versus Nick Diaz.

Again, we don't know when Nick Diaz coming back. I guess it's never a bad time to match making for him. He says both Pastor Prime, both popular, both very exciting. Both Mexican-Americans put him in the Comane after Alex Perez upsets Ascarov and then have Moreno fight Perez. Okay, so he's trying to kind of create a Mexico Supercard. That's the end of this. He says, throw Alexa Grasso and Andrea Lee on there.

He said there's the biggest Mexican-M-A card ever. Go Mexico City Stadium, 87,000 capacity. He says, you're welcome. So Matt Bradbury, doing a little work, doing a little promotional work for the UFC here. Nice. MMA heads, throwing out some good ones. Vallev versus Asun Sao.

Asun Sao, did Kyler Phillips? I know he's out. I know that, I know that fight is, he was supposed to fight Collar Phillips. It's Phillips who had to withdraw. No, Asunso had an injury.

He's out. Phillips is now fighting Haleon Piva. Right. Okay. So we don't know with the nature of Hafell, Asun Sal's injury is. So, but I could see that happening someday.

I don't know if that's next. Means versus Bayeza. Who did Baezza beat in his U.S. debut that got me so. Oh, Matt Brown, right? Matt Brown? No. That was the second fight, wasn't it?

But, yeah, yeah, but he's fine. Yeah, I don't know. I think I'm, yeah, I think I'm getting Matt Brown and Tim Bean's confused or something. But, yeah, okay, right, so they haven't fought. Yeah, I don't know if Means want to take that one right now, but certainly not a bad fight. Moycano versus Bobby Green, Shavkat, Rachmana versus Elezuzaleski, and Charles Rosa versus Nate's Landwer. Yeah, I think Nate's going to want to get back on there soon, so could definitely see that happening. Gardner Bailey, coming in with Philly versus Sons.

Wang Wu Choi, I made a note to read this. He just says, hard to give Feeley a big push after the no contest, but if he'll Choi gives him the fight, he needs to be really knocking on the door of the top of Dean. Both those boys can crack. Gardner, you are not wrong, my friend. And J.D. Felt, here's our newcomer.

J.D. Fell, coming in hat with gone versus, yep, another one, again, gone versus gone to lose winner, throw him right in there. Jones, and then he kind of breaks down how it affects the rest of the, kind of the rest of the heavy waist is. And then that's Jones versus Miochich. And he also had a fight for it. He said Volkov should get the Blades,

Rosenstrike winner, UFC 266. And then his last matchup, OSP versus Jason Herzog. So he's saying, forget the appeals, Mike. Let's settle this like men. Let's settle this like men. I don't know if I agree with that. I'm not into street justice, Nate. I'm sorry.

J.D. But I understand the sentiment. I laugh the suggestion. So all right. A ton of Twitters here. Guys, I'm sorry, you know what? Twitters, you guys are coming in so hot all the time, so I'm going to just skim through a little bit here.

Denny Capps, first-time contributor, I think. I swear I've read this name before. Hadzovich versus Ricky Glenn. Ricky's fighting at lightweight, right? Yes. Yeah, Hodzovich versus Ricky Glenn, Charles Rosa versus Alex Ceres. Another newcomer, semi-casual MMA that left us a really nice message. They've been listening since December, Mike,

and now have finally found. the courage to to contribute and uh one of them that really stood up for me was uh ensuchu versus jamal hill again these are guys who maybe want to fight like as i said with misha serkanov maybe want to fight ensuchu now because as you mentioned later on this guy could be super even more dangerous than he already is man we really are we ready to push kennedy up into like a top 15 fight i don't know that's what i wonder i don't know but like i like you said it's like maybe these some of these top 15 guys want to fight him now because he's got a bit of hype behind him you beat him i think It's kind of, you know, it matters.

He is dangerous, but again, if you feel like he's not where he's going to be yet, now's the time. And semi-cadual M.A. also says, y'all are a major reason why I even made this account to begin with. Best in the business. I assume he's, I mean, it's possible. He's talking about M.A. fighting in general. But I assume, Mike, he's really just talking about you and me. Yes, the people show. I think that's fair.

At Nicklinville, another new newbie, at Nicklinville. on Twitter says, Call me crazy, but I want to see Cedilgan versus John Jones. If neither are getting the next go at the belt, I said he was a madman.

Obviously he's not because other people suggested it. He says, I pride myself on that insanity. So, Nicklinville, your insanity has been noted. The UFC report on Twitter, the UFC report.

It's a big fan of the show. Some fights to share, Bozer versus Sergei Spivak. I'm surprised that didn't come up. Valiav versus the song Kenny winner. Yes, I agree. and then Moikano versus the Where is this guy?

Ray Ginala Iaquinta. Where is he, Mike? I don't know. Where is he? Selling houses, the market is hot right now, A.K. He probably is making money outside the UFC and is not in the biggest hurry to get back into getting his head punched in.

Another newbie. Ben Davison, U.K.Y. Go Wildcats. Bozer versus Romanov. He's on that train. Rahmanov versus James Kraus. Jeremiah Wells versus Francisco Chonaldo. Hanato, Moikano.

versus Christosciagos, Ben Davison, get out of my head. Sean at S.D. Cofflin, Utah State. Guys, if you put, I'm not going to stop. If you put your university in your profile, I'm just going to shout it out because I love doing it. Utah State, go Aggies. He wants Philly and... Oops, I'm reading the wrong one.

I apologize. I got this a bit mixed up. He wants Fili and Paneda. Oh, here's why. He says, as a Sacramento native or anyone that likes it. an obtaining fighter. He's, I feel terrible for Andre Bealey. They need to rebook that. So, a little California bias there. Do they need to rebook them? Do they? The people of, Sean speaks for the people of Sacramento. The people need this.

No, I mean, I think of your Philly, you just want to move on. And another Gond Jones suggestion. Now, all right, now let's go to our regulars. Again, these guys just, I don't know. Do you guys sleep? Do you guys just think about UFC all the time? So I won't read all these. Again, your suggestions are noted. I won't read all these. Liam Perry coming in with Enzichu versus Oloxacic. Yeah, I like it. Moikano versus Hernandez.

So there you go. There's another vote for that. And then Valleyev versus John Castaneda. I think Valleyev's pretty far ahead of him. Yeah. I mean, I like John, but no. You can't do. That's a giant step back.

Yeah, relative UFC experience. It's not crazy. But I think, again, you know, you need to have a little bit if you know more about these fighters, Like it was a bit, just a bit ahead of him. All right. Let me ask you this one because I just thought of it. I want to get your take on it.

What about Enzichu? And I know this guy has a fight booked already, but let's just say like, I mean, it's 2021 and anything can happen. If Devin Clark can't make it in September, Enzichu versus Iwan Kutalaba, I feel like that's a perfect fight. Oh. Fast, fast starter versus late finisher. Yeah, I mean, we could get wrestler Kutalaba.

Kudelaba. Kudlava is so unpredictable. You just don't know what you're kidding with that guy. Yeah, no, I'd love that. And I could see it happening. Yeah, if we're talking about what's likely to happen, that's, yeah, I could see it happening. Prachnale versus Don, Jong. I just bring this up because Jung, again, was like chaos was matched up with everyone in his division that fought on this card.

So I may skip over, guys, I may skip over some of the other junk matchups. Tope Gerting Jensen, our man from Denmark. I want to read out this guy's message two. uh moikano versus ottman a zitar so he's like me he's not quite putting him separate him from that pack yet i got um i mean ottman's had it's been okay in the occice so far nicholas dalby versus uh impa kisanganae and i only read this because uh he's a fellow he's a fellow dane he's toke's fellow dane so i did i again i don't like to pass over losers usually but um gosh where's his comments about this uh anyway he he essentially said i know you guys don't pick don't mention usually but this one's for the Danish so good effort from Dalby anyway he does he deserves you mentioned and uh Fili versus oh I mentioned this for Banada he said just he said hard to give value of credit for a win matchmaking wise when that felt very drawish instead he can fight another crushing competitor trying to crack the top of dean and his argument and then uh his argument for

gone versus mokic another master class from see logan just he's just something else it's time for the cruiser weight Championship of the World, title eliminator for the Challenger after Derek Lewis and John Jones. So some ways to go, but either way, he believes the path for God lies through. Miochich. Just a few more to go here. Michael Perugini, again, I'm skipping over time, John matchups. There's just so many.

Jeremiah Wells versus Alex Olivera. And he has a parting note for Maderos. He says, off to Bellator, we go. This could be the last time we've seen the always entertaining Jansi Maderos in the case. at least for now. Hayes the third. He says, Gahn versus Sipe,

but thinks gone has a 30% chance of just sitting around getting the next title shot. That's pretty good, 30% chance. Another person who he wants to run back Philly versus Paneda.

And he likes Charles Rosa versus Ludovic Klein. What was Klein's last fight? He has fought. He did fight, right, since the weight miss win, right? Against... I don't think so.

I swear he guys are members are guys oh no he lost he has a lot Mike Trisano fight he lost he lost he lost to Trisano yeah did he lose though did he do yeah uh so yeah that's not that's not a bad matchup at all them uh Braden O'Neill and Suchu versus ed herman alonzo menafield winner I like that UFC 25 August 7th uh hadsovich versus this isn't deep cuts so I have to bring him up Hadzovich versus the Yoros Medich Jalen Turner winner, U.S.C. 266, September, 235. I did not remember that fight was happening. And Fili versus the Toporia Hall winner, UFC 24, July 10th. I thought about that.

I don't, I don't, it wasn't my top choice. Or Fili versus Gavin Tucker. Marcus McGehy, he calls this, on to the next one, the, gone with the win edition. Nice. Gone, no. I'll just repeat it. Just out of disdain.

Gone with the win. Marcus, I should block you. Vallev versus Jimmy Rivera, Moikano versus Joel Alvarez. Hadzovich versus Terrence McKinney. Bozer versus Chase Sherman, Parker Porter winner, Mike, August 21st? They're far behind? You think they're behind him? They're both behind him, but I'd watch it.

And I like what he said. he wants Barcellos versus I'll just read it his Barcellos matchup he says if I had my druthers I just love what people say that Barcellus would get Valliev's teammate Frankie Edgar it won't happen but that's the fight I would make despite tonight's decision

Barcellus has long deserved an opportunity to fight a ranked opponent that's actually that's actually makes sense Thomas Collins when he wasn't checking you Mike also said Bozer versus Tuivasa

I feel Tanner needs a fight that he's going to keep it standing and this could be a good match for him. Plus, he can open the beer with his teeth so that Tuwibasa can do his shubi? That just all sounds disgusting. What are we? No, I don't know. I shouldn't have read that. And Timor Vallev versus Nathaniel Wood, which I think would be an awesome, awesome matchup.

And lastly, Barry O'Reilly. I'll end with Barry O'Reilly, our man in Ireland. Prachnyov versus Olegsichuk. He says, Poland versus Poland. unless their teammates, I don't think they train together. I think that could happen. So it would be like a KSW main event. Rachmana versus Shemayev.

I'm into it. And Sachuku versus Khrut. Kruit had the leg injury. He says he'll be ready to fight again in October. No. Just a firm note? It's too soon, man. It's too soon for a fight like that for Kennedy.

Yeah, it's too soon for that. I know, just to throw this out there, I had to look it up, but I was pretty sure that I was correct about this. but Enzachuku and Alonzo Menefield are teammates at Fortis MMA. So now if Ed Herman beats Alonzo Menefield, you have a built-in storyline, I'm fine with that. That's probably like the best possible outside of the scenario you just laid out before the replacement. If it's a normally regularly booked fight, yes, Ed Herman beats Menafield, then NSGS. That would be amazing.

The other reason I wanted to read Barry last was I think he kind of has a question that I think it's best for you to answer. First, I want to give him credit for Avila versus Jessica Rose Clark, one of the guys who threw it out there. And again, I love, love that matchup. Vena's the way to go. Vallev versus Chito Vera. Oh. Cheeto will say yes to anyone. I almost feel like we have to protect him from himself.

He'll take that fight. But I think you got to do the Jimmy Rivera fight now. Like I just, yeah. But he would say yes, yeah. So this is kind of, oh, this is really a question for you. So he says Tim Means versus Randy Brown. And he describes Tim Mains. He says, Tim Means, who threw headkicks like his look-alike Tom Brady throws TDs.

So, really, I'm going to end this section with a question. You're a New Englander. You've seen a lot of Tom Brady in your life. Does Tim Means look like Tom Brady? It'd be shaved. Try to imagine you shave. Let's see he's clean shaving. Wow.

Are you seeing it now? I'm not against it. I'll say that. I'm not against it. It's like, I don't know, like, for the old, like, full house fans and, like, shows of the 90s, they always had, like, sequences where you had, like, the regular dude. Then you had, like, the evil bum-looking dude. Like, Danny Tanner would have, like, Danny Tanner would have, like, you know, the clean, you know, the clean version. And then he'd have, like, the version with the leather jacket and the, in the stubble and the bandana.

It was like, you know, just grimy Danny Tanner. Like, this is the evil Danny Tanner. Tim Means is kind of like the evil version of Tom Brady. Like if Tom, like, if he went down, if Tom Brady like went down the wrong path, like maybe if Tom Brady like decided to play baseball instead of football, like maybe this is like what we would have gotten. He never meets, he never meets, he never meets Jazeel. Yeah, never.

Never plays in one Super Bowl, much less 20. Yeah. However many. The great, he doesn't become the greatest of all time. Well, well, there. Tim means very, very serviceable. fighter. I'm a big, I like him means he's great. There's a, I

wouldn't say, I wouldn't say like, wow, that's something I never thought about before. He looks exactly like Tom Brady. I won't say that. But I guess I can see where he's coming from. If he dressed up as Tom Brady for Halloween, you'd be like, oh, okay. I see why he did that.

Yeah, he'd have to like cut his hair and I don't know. Yeah. It's interesting. I'm like, that's a deep look right there. Good on you. Yeah. Thank you, Barry Rally, for that provocative, that thought-provoking question.

And thank you, everyone, of course, all the listeners for your suggestions. Send in, of course, your fight picks and your celebrity look-alike comparisons. We will judge those as well. And, of course, send in your mic checks, guys. You can hit me up on Twitter at Alexander K. Lee, Instagram at Alexander KKKLEE email,

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What are they listening for the first time? We've got to let them know. Ep 50 is next. The 50th episode of On to the Next one will be the next show. So I was pondering how we should do this. Like, should we give the peeps like a show in between 264? But I say no. I say no, AK.

No. I say the 50th episode has to. to be reacting to the fight. And that's what we're going to do. So join us in two weeks as we react to all the big news coming out of UFC 264, which of course is headlined by Dustin Porier versus Connor McGregor 3. Co-main event at 170 pounds. A massive fight between Gilbert Burns and Stephen Wonderboy Thompson.

How this fights on the main card, I don't get it, but it is. Taito of Vasa versus Greg Hardy. Errini Aldana versus Janakunitskaya on the main card Sean O'Malley versus Lewis Smoke on the main card and then the prelims A.K. Max Griffin versus Carlos Condit. Nico Price versus Michelle Beheada.

Dreykis DuPlessi versus Trevin Giles. Ryan Hall versus Ilya Teporei. Oh, Dingerer Cross. We're still two weeks. Please. Jennifer Mai versus Jessica I. Omari Akhmeda versus Brad Tavars. Zalgis

Zuma Gula. versus Jerome Rivera, clearly fighting for his job, and Alan Amadovsky versus Yao Zong Hugh. That's it. That's still, what do we have? 14, is that a 14 fight card? That's a 14 fight card, even with losing Sean Brady versus Kevin Lee. So we have a lot to discuss.

We might have to do, because it's at 50AK, we might have to do main card and ESPN prelims. I think we have to give them some of the names that are, that on that card. It is up 50 after all. I think that's what we're going to do. So a jam. So we will make up for no show next week.

Plus, it's a long weekend in the United States, Fourth of July, Independence Day weekend. Perfect. Plenty of time to listen to a longer show. Yes. So that's what we're going to do. UFC 24 Fallout. The next time you hear us,

two weeks from right now, on onto the next one. We appreciate you checking out the program. Thank you for all your suggestions. Even the mic checks. It means a lot. That's part. That's right.

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