MMA Fighting - On To the Next One: Matches To Make After UFC Vegas 32

Episode Date: July 25, 2021

On the 52nd episode of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting’s Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee put on their matchmaker hats following Saturday’s UFC Vegas 32 event at the APEX.  Future matchups were discussed for the former bantamweight champion T.J. Dillashaw following his split decision win in the instant classic of a main event, Cory Sandhagen, Raulian Paiva, Darren Elkins, Maycee Barber, Adrian Yanez and more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Hello there, everybody, and welcome to a brand new edition of On to the next one, as we discuss the fallout of UFC Vegas 32, which had a memorable main event for everybody that watched in a night, seemingly full of controversy. Every time a fight went to the judge's scorecards, some of those we will discuss on this very show in a matter of moments. I am Mike Kack, and joining me as always,

the co-host, the co-matchmaker, the Prince of Positivity, my best friend and yours, Mr. Alexander Klee. Hello, A.K. Mike, my best friend, it's great to have you back. Our listeners and viewers and readers will be excited to have you back. I had to take over some of the hosting duties for some of our regular MMA fighting program, which I loved, which I loved doing, but people should know at hosting. That's a difficult job. That is a more difficult job than people think. And it was hard walking in your shoes, Mike, but I was glad I had the opportunity to do it. And glad to see that you're, I wish people could see you right now.

Mike, that you look, how you look vibrant. Your trip down to Florida. Your trip down to Duv—well, sorry. Well, you didn't go—you weren't actually at Duval County. You're in Tampa. Tampa. You're in—glamorous Tampa, Florida. So, Mike, tell people about your trip and, and for some reason they don't know why you

were there. Yes. And that's a good thing you brought this up, because I'm going to throw some truth out there, my friends, because me and AK were discussed this moments ago. We don't want to lie to America. We don't want to lie to the world. Sometimes. I got back from Tampa on Saturday afternoon.

I covered the BKFC 19 events down there, which was just ridiculous. The card was, had a little bit of everything. Covered the whole fight week. It was fun. And I worked until nearly 6 a.m. Saturday morning after the event, and I slept for like an hour and a half. Then I went to the airport. I flew to Boston.

Landed in Boston around 2.45 p.m. And then I headed on to Cape Cod. to meet my wife and son at my parents' house out there. And I sat in traffic for like three plus hours getting there. So I finally made it to the Cape at around seven Eastern time, 645, and my son, who I hadn't seen in several days, he wanted to go to the beach, he wanted to play in the water and wrestle around. So I did that with him for 90 or so minutes. So by the time I got back to the house, I was 10 times more exhausted than I was before.

but I said to myself, self, you cannot miss this main event. You can't. You cannot miss it. You've been talking about it for weeks, for months even. So I get in my room, open the laptop, I turn it on ESPN Plus, watched the final minute of the Haleon Piva, Kyla Phillips fight, heard the winner being read, went on Twitter, nobody was thrilled with the decision, which was kind of a theme of the night.

And then I went on and watched two exhilarating rounds of this main event, event between Corey Sanhagen and T.J. Dillishaw. And the next thing I know, A.K., it is 6 a.m. Sunday morning. And that's all I know. I don't know how it happened. I don't know how I fell asleep. It just, it just happened. So I watched maybe 15 minutes of the whole card. So I hope the listeners and yourself, my best friend, you can bear with me through this program today. I was, I was wondering why I got a message from you around that time. I was like, why is he responding to my message now. Mike, that explains a lot

and I think everyone's glad to hear you. Survived your harrowing journey. And like you said, you wanted to catch the main event. You'd already miss the people's main event with Adrian Yanez and Massachusetts's own Randy Costa. So, you know, hopefully you get a chance to rewatch that, I'm sure. And a lot of the other action. It was just, it was a great card top to bottom, Mike.

One of the best fight nights I've seen, definitely the best fight night of the year. One of the best I've seen in recent memory. It loved up to all the hype. I think we're all pretty optimistic going in, considering the quality of them in advance. And I think we said a lot of the matchups on paper looked great. There was some possibility for showcase fights. And everything pretty much panned out as the UFC would have wanted outside of a couple of controversial decisions.

And even those fights were pretty good. So, you know, the result hopefully doesn't spoil what people saw in the cage. Well, I like to thank MMAFighting.com for, you know, in Damon Martin specifically, for filling the blanks in for me. Read those, got a taste of how these fights went, and then checking with MMA decisions a little bit earlier. Now I got a real grasp on how this event went. I'll get your thoughts on that as well. So let's start with this main event that I missed 60% of. But I read everything on our site.

Everyone on Twitter universally praised it. You just did so as well, as good as advertised. In the end, T.J. Dilleshaw has a successful return to the Octagon. He defeats Corey Sanhagan via split decision. All I know, AK, is 17 of P. 23 people on MMA decisions scored this fight for Corey Sanhagen. Most people I saw on Twitter, with the exception of maybe one or two, scored it for Corey Sanhagen.

How did you score it, my best friend? And is T.J. Dillashaw getting the opportunity to fight for a chance to recapture his Banimate title next? Well, first, it was a great fight. You know, again, as I kind of just prefaced it with, like, you know, let's hopefully, whatever controversy there may be, and it certainly was not the most controversial decision of the night, so I shouldn't be too worried about it. You know, it doesn't overshadow what an amazing fight it was.

Some people saying maybe the best fight in Bantamweight history, one of the best fights of the year. It was just a great technical battle. I mean, if you just want to see two guys at the top of what we consider now to be maybe the best division in all of MMA, it's exactly what you got. It was a great competitive fight. I had it 48, 47 Sanhagen. I wasn't like super confident about it. I think like most people we all thought, oh, two and two rounds apiece going into the final round. so whoever wins the fifth should win it

and that for most of us I would think look like it was Sanhagen but according to two of the judges it was not really sorry one of the judges because I believe in the judges cards sorry I should pull this up I believe in the judges cards it did not come down to that final round I think some of the judges

let me take a look here guys you can see I'm hemming and hawing while I dig up this thing this is the kind of preparation we have here guys it's right in the front there oh wait why can I not find this? It should be on the front page of Mayfiting.com. Hold on, hold on.

I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it. So here is the breakdown of the scoring. I'm sure people have, we kind of talked to a little bit in the post-fight show, but. Judge Derek Cleary, three rounds to Sanhagen. Okay, so Cleary was the one Sanhagen score. It gave him two, four, and five. So like most of us, 30 won the fifth round. Judge Sal Diomato gave Dillasha won three and five.

And then, and this is what I'm talking about. Chiro Camijo already had Dillashah going up into the final round. He gave Dillashah one, three, and four. So the consensus being, again, among, I think, a lot of people that I saw on social media, that it was coming down to the final round was not the case on at least one scorecard. On one scorecard, Judge Camijo, they already had Dillashaw. So really, really, you know, look, it was kind of a difficult fight to score. I, you know, I'm sure we'll all get a chance to rewatch it.

Dill Shaw did win at the end of the day. That is what will go down in the books. Jail Shah's split decision, winning for the first time since coming back from the US out of suspension April 2019. I think he has to fight Rob Font, Mike. I think he has to fight Rob font. I believe Robb's mentioned this before, that this is a fight that makes sense for him whenever. I think he wanted to be the T. T.J. comeback fight.

And, you know, Corey Sanhagen got it instead. But it makes a lot of sense. I think T.J. is maybe one away. He said afterwards that he wants to stay busy. You know, I think he's more than ready to face potentially the winner of Peodor Yan and Al Jermaine Sterling 2, which is expected to go down October 30th. Nothing's signed yet. Expect to go down October 30th in Abu Dhabi.

And if that happens, that makes sense too. But it looks like he wants to stay busy. Who knows how much longer he'll have to wait for Al Jermaine and Piotr Yon. So I think the font fight makes sense. Fair for him. Fair for font. again another friggin' bantamweight just stunning matchup so you like dilloshaw versus font i think yeah i mean listen i think i think his next fight has to be for the title and it could be a while from now

because there are injuries in play with that we saw the knee didn't look too good looked like there's a little bit of a pop in there from everything that i read and some of the video highlights that i saw his eye was a mess i wish this was a little more concise of a win like a little more clear but it's kind of hard to deny him at this point. A lot of people still think he's the greatest Bannamweight of all time. So I think he will get his title shot when he is ready to come back, although my hunch does tell me that Corey Sandoaghan could still get to the title before he does, depending on how bad Dillishaw's injury is.

And, you know, to sort of skip ahead here, I think Sanhagen versus Rob Thaunt will happen next. That makes the most sense, which it kind of sucks for Fonthe, either way, especially in this case, because if he wins, the only way he'd fight for the title, maybe this is a blessing at the end of the day. The only way he'd fight for the title is if Dilleshaw is more hurt than maybe any of us think right now and he's out even longer. But I think that's the fight, man.

I think you do Font versus Sanhagen. You know, maybe you can put that on the October 30th card in Abu Dhabi as a buffer for the targeted title fight between Sterling and Jan. But yeah, I think Sanhagen font, and this is probably fonts, this is a good chance, this is probably Fon's quickest path to the title. If he beats, goes in there and beats Corey and does it quickly, who knows, man.

I think the UFC might just throw a lot of money at these gentlemen and just be like, dude, fight in December. We'll turn you around fast, do this title, and fight for the belt and go for it. So, Sanhagen font for me. What do you think for Corey? I like him facing the Munoz, Pedro Munoz, Josie Aldo winner on, at August 7th, UFC 265. I think that's a good matchup.

Now that you bring it up, it feels like Font has to fight one of these guys, right? It feels like neither of these guys are necessarily going to, whichever one doesn't get, like I'm not San Hagan now. I guess if T.J. doesn't get, like you said, if he doesn't get the title shot, which he could, he should fight Font, and if he does, then San Hagan should fight Font. So font has to be in the mix somewhere, which is a great place to be among all these big names. So, yeah, I went with San Hagan versus Munoz all the winner, just because I picked Font for Dillishaw. Mike, how would you feel about Dillishaw?

versus like Faber, San Hagen versus Cruz, fonts kind on standby for the for the, the, the, the, Aljo, Peter Jan matchup. I'm fine with that. You got to do,

you got to do Dillishaw Faber like ASAP. Like, you got to do it. Yeah, I know. Even producer Casey's kind of abandoned it. Yeah, I mean, at this point, if they didn't make it, it's never going to happen. And I know the UFC tried to make that fight. They tried.

And I think Dillash is nuts for not taking it. it. What are you doing? Like, listen, he gave us a fight of the year contender. Hats off to him. But the Faber fight would have been huge. That would be huge. Now it's lost of sizzle. We couldn't have had some Faber Dilleshaw confrontation at the apex.

Favor was there for three fights. He was cornering like three fighters there. We couldn't have had them run into each other somehow. Gosh, maybe it was protocol. Maybe they kept them away. But I would have just loved a little bit of heat there. Imagine if Sandhagen got the split decision and then Faber just Faber just walks out from the curtain and just stands there and stares to him.

Oh, arms crossed. Waves to him. Because all the bad decisions went in the favor of Faber fighters. So, I mean, why not? Maybe he just like turned heel and a little wink. There you go. The only way that fight makes sense, though. I hope it's a lot.

But you're right. It does feel like the ship has sailed. Yeah, because, I mean, the only time, and this is, listen, your eye, Faber is a legend. We appreciate all he's given to the sport, but the only time we would even give favor a chance against TJ, and it would be a slim one anyways, was after the long layoff. Like, is there ring rust, quote unquote? Now, after seeing him go in there and have a fight like that with a guy like Corey Sandigan, I just, yeah, I think there's no sizzle left on that stake. So we'll see what happens there. Speaking of 135,

co-made event, we have Holly on Piva, who now has three straight victories, moves up. to 1.35 on short notice, gets the majority decision win over Kyler Phillips. Most people scored this one a draw. Speaking of Faber, guys, Helium Piva would be one of them. Some had it a Phillips win. Not a lot of people giving the nod to Mr. Piva here who got the

coach slash translator. Your eye of favor in his corner, but he gets it done. That durability does wonders, AK. Not having to cut that extra 10 pounds seem to work for him as well. And he told it on Guillermo Cruz before this fight. He'd go for the Asuncelo fight. Of course, Havio Asunso was supposed to fight

Kyler Phillips before Piva came in there. Would you go that direction? Is that the direction you go? Do you go Piva Sunsai? Do you go somewhere else? Yeah, that's the fight to make. He stepped in for a Sunsau. That's what was kind of unfortunate for, it was a great matchup.

But this was the one unfortunate thing about it for Kyla Phillips was this was supposed to be a clear potential rank up opportunity for him. Asun Salo has been in the top 10 or at least in the, even in our top 15 forever. And win or lose, it was a logical. matchup for Phillips. He had a lot to gain. If he loses, he doesn't really fall back in the rankings at all. Now, he has Haolin Paiva come up from Flyweight,

probably making a permanent move to 135. And now it takes his spot. Hands him his first COC lost and takes a spot. So that was one unfortunate thing about it. But the Asansal fight makes a lot of sense for Paiva. Now, he gets a chance to rank up. Collar Phillips can rebuild in a different way. Yeah, Paiva's

been calling it for, saying he would call for the fight Before he fought Before he fought Phillips, he's kind of confirmed after. So, yeah, that just makes a lot of sense. I don't think that. And let me clear up the Uriya favorite translator thing. Yeah, we all kind of saw that. We're like, does he speak Portuguese now?

And it's like, is he, I tweez? Is he just like, like, nod his head and then doing some promo, his own rogue promo work for a private after. And no, as it turns out, uh, Tiago Okomara, manager and translator for some other fighters. He said, there was three people standing there and one of them was the translator. I was just kind of, I guess, whispering into Faber's ear while the, while Paivo was talking about what he was saying.

And I guess he did while he did a little bit. But yeah, there was just kind of a little broken telephone thing going. As far as I know, Faber does not speak Portuguese. Maybe he speaks a little. I don't know. Yeah, I was starting, Faber was like, yeah, you know, I fought hard. You know, shout out to my team and I'm going to go skateboarding and have some fish tacos down on the boardwalk, bro. And I was like, okay, there you go.

There's the one they go to it. All right, all right. Wait a minute. I mean, I'm fine with that, but I hate to knock out two people in one shot, but I'm going to go Piva versus Adrian Yanez. That fight makes a lot of sense to me. I think both guys are fringe top 20 fighters right now. I don't know if this win will get Piva into the top 15 at Banimoy,

especially since he only has one fight there, and it wasn't like a convincing win. Um, I like that one after Yonaz's his big finish over Randy Kossack. It's an appropriate step up. Um, we're not rushing Yana's too much. We're not rushing Piva too much. I think both guys are pretty much in the same spot right now. So I like that idea. That's right.

Yeah. This whole car is a bitumway showcase. It's very easy to match guys up. I said Julio Arce could be another option for Piva. So there's a lot of ways. And he looks buried under all this. Arce. It looks freaking amazing on the prelims.

against a really tough guy and Andre Yule. So there's so many ways you can go with Payava. It was huge for him. I didn't mean to gloss over, as you said, kind of the controversy. This should have been a draw. Yeah. We should be matchmaking for Piva and Phillips right now. Or neither.

However, depending on what our rule is, maybe matchmaking for neither and doing like two wild cards or something. But this was a draw. That first round is a 10-8. Those judges should be sat down and have to watch that first round again and explain that amount of damage, how close the fight was to being finished in the last 30 seconds, that's a 10-8 round, and it's a shame that Kyler Phillips is walking home with a loss right now because this is a draw.

And credit to Paiava for being tough as hell, I think he won the last two rounds. So I don't think there's a case for Phillips win either, to be honestly. I think some people thought maybe the second could have got either way. I think pretty, for me, Paiava took second and third, but this should have been a draw. So, you know, Payava's going to do great.

Phillips going to bounce back, but I think we'll have to always remember how this one, how this particular win kind of manifested itself. Yeah, I don't think Sal Diomato needs to go to that meeting because he's the only one who scored it to draw 2828. He did it right. And yeah, I mean, I didn't have a problem with his main event scorecard either from everything I've seen.

Junichiro, Camillo, however, gave round four to T.J. Dilleshaw. and nobody gave round four to T.J. Dillowashaw. No. Questionable. Except Camillo, but that's pretty much par for the course. But how about Darren Elkins, AK? I mean, think about this. Well, we started this program, and we started on to the next one and made this a thing.

Darren Elkins was on a four-fight losing streak. This was not that long ago. And now he has two straight wins, and he goes out and stops Derek Minner. How many people saw that coming? Big win for the damn. This guy is just, he's a cat, man. He's got nine lives. He ain't stopping.

And last week, you mentioned this individual's name to step inside the octagon to fight one Billy Quarantillo. I'd be totally down with that. But I'm going Sungwu Choi versus Darren Elkins next. That is just a crazy fun fight. And I would see what Mr. Choi does against an absolute savage like Darren Elkins, who just never goes away. What do you think?

Why are you doing this to poor Sungwu? Sung Wu, I don't know if he's ready for this yet because, so, Mike, one thing we said in the post-by show, I hate to repeat our gags, but not everyone listens to all the shows. Darren Elkins, the booking of his fights getting a little repetitive, Mike. You know, look, this isn't, this is, he follows very much the Hulk Hogan, John Cena mold of booking a match where he gets his ass beaten for like 10 minutes or 12 minutes and then comes, Hulk's up and then comes back and wins the match. That was great when we were kids, Mike, but at some point you got to mix up the formula. However, I mean, it's working for him. This was, you could not script a Darren Elkins fight more clearly than his fight with Minner. It gets in trouble early, is just scraping by to survive, is getting, taking a lot of damage on the ground.

And of course, comes back and just reverse it. He's a cardio machine and just out wills his way to win over Derek Minner. It's getting a little ridiculous. I don't want to throw poor Sung Wu in there with him. I don't even know how you make the odds for a fight like that. Because Sung Wu would probably be favored. And yet when the fight starts, we'd just be worrying about Sung Wu getting Elkins the whole time. So again, don't bet on MMA.

I went with Alex Casares. It's one of those fights. I can't believe it hasn't happened. Maybe if Casares had been at 145 his whole career in the UFC, it would have definitely happened. But you have two guys just a ridiculous amount of UFC fights. Casera split between 135, 145. I know Casera's name has been coming up a lot in our show. I haven't broken it out too much.

This is my first time, I think, break out in a while. And that's what I want to see. Just a great, great veterans fight between two really skills. It would be such a classy fight. As classy as a fight with the damage can be anyway. In what seems to be maybe the biggest judging controversy of 2021 last far, Macy Barber gets back on track, picks up a baseball. split decision win over Miranda Maverick.

I got to tell you, A.K., like I prefaced at the beginning of this program, I did not watch this fight, but from just looking through everywhere, from MMA decisions to Twitter, not just media, not just fans, but fighters, to Facebook, to Instagram, et cetera, aka I've not seen one person, not one, score this fight for Macy Barber. I don't even think Macy Barber's cousins scored this fight for her. Not one person scored this for her. Our results tweet, you know, our results tweet that says Macy Barbara defeats Random Maverick by split decision had many replies.

And I didn't read them all obviously, but I was just scrolling through. Yeah, couldn't find a single one. I did a poll. I should probably check on the results of that poll of who do you think won the fight. I think last time I checked it was at least something like 80, maybe 90% for Random Maverick. So, yeah, controversial. I think it's fair to say. So you said you looked at M.M.A.

decisions, right? Yeah, not one person. Oh, I was going to say, should we give our, should I was going to quiz our listeners. But yeah, 22 media scores. That's a, which is, I mean, not the media doesn't score every fight. So the media was very on top of scoring this one. 22 media scores. Yes, 22 for Miranda Maverick.

That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. So I assume a retro rob, not a retro robbery, but a robbery review is coming. It is coming by the time folks are sitting down for their work lunch break on Monday. this robbery review will be published. All right, fair enough. I feel like AKI was the only person that didn't totally dislike this matchmaking.

I dug in. And I explained why. I don't know if I explained it on this show or if I explained one of the post fighter, one of the ancillary programs heading into a card. But listen, I understand like with Macy Barber, you think she's going to be a star and you're like, I saw a lot of media members be like,

oh, why are you thrown her to another kill? Like Marina Maverick, because if Macy Barber is this fighter that you continue to build as a future world champion and Dana White loves her and talks nice about her, she has to be able to beat the Miranda Mavericks of the world. If you can't beat the Miranda Maherna. And Miranda's a great fighter. She is a great prospect.

She's someone to buy stock him. But if Macy Barber can't beat Miranda Maverick at this point in her career, it's over. Like, it's all over. So this was just fine matchmaking. This is probably the best piece of matchmaking you could have done, the most sensical matchmaking. The result is pretty awful because this is the worst thing that could have happened to Macy Barber. Like a clear win or a clear walk, even a clear loss is better than this, AK. Is it not? Like, where does she go from here? Hey, we're talking about her. You know, I think we're

talking about it, right? That's always, that's always a good sign, good controversy, you know. That's kind of been part of her appeal since she came off of the contender series. Her whole, I'm going to be the youngest champion. She set herself up for a lot of criticism, but also a lot of attention. And as you said, that's right. Just blocked his knees. As you said, Dana White loves that. And so this is what comes with that kind of, that kind of act. So, yeah, a controversial win, not great, but also not against brand for her. So next up, because I think it was so close, I'm not really moving her up in the rankings. I already had her actually one spot ahead of Maverick. I think they were like in my personal rankings, like,

13 and 14, some like that. So this is a very logical matchup for me. I didn't hate it either. But I'll go a little bit lower now. I think Montana De La Rosa, I think it'll be a fine fight for Barber, a winnable fight, a good name, someone who's had her own success. I wanted De La Rosa. I think I wanted her to welcome Tatiana Suarez to fly away. But it sounds like that I believe Suarez now will fight Roxanne Modafari, UFC 26, September 25th.

So I think De La Rosa is free. I don't know if you're going to go with the obvious callout. Like, you know, this is sort of the name that was attached to her right away after the fight. Yeah, I know she called on Jessica I. I am not. I mean, listen, I'm still torn up about this decision. I mean, it's just so bad for her. Like, I know it's on brand, but this is like the worst thing that could have happened to her.

But again, silver lining guy, two paychecks, good for her. She calls for Jessica I. I doubt she gets that fight right now. I don't think that's a good matcher for her. I think Jessica is an animal. And I thought even, you know, losing the last fight, I thought Jessica looked pretty damn good in her last fight. I don't like that matcha for Macy Barber.

I will go with Andrea Lee versus Macy Barber. And I'm going and I'm picking that for the exact same reason you did because you wanted Tatiana Suarez versus Montana de la Rosa. I wanted Tatiana Swariz versus Andrea Lee. Swariz gets Botafari. and now your prize, your secondary prize, a fight with Macy Barber. I think that works just fine, AK, as we go to, I already made my pick for Adrianianianas, who, from all accounts, tremendous fight.

Randy Costa, looked had a tremendous first round. Yes. Looks like he was cruising, using that length, jabbing away. Adrianianas is just such a dog, man. He's such a dog. That's why he's one of the more exciting prospects in one of the more exciting divisions in the sport. Where does he go? That dude's the bantamweight Terminator right now.

That dude is like he, and I don't mean the zombie. Like, you know, there's Terminators and there's zombie guys who, when we say we mean like, oh, the guys who come forward and like take a lot of damage and just walk through it. He's a terminator in the sense that he's like a machine. Watch his last two fight. Like anyone just go back, watch his last two fights. He's so frighteningly calm. Even against Coaster was taking the fight to him in the round one.

Like he was just catching it with so many clean shots. you could see Yanez kind of making little adjustments as the round one went on and just becoming

more comfortable and then by the middle of the and then in the second round he was just he turned it around completely and I'm going to use

this term a lot to talk about Yannes so people get used to it he downloads people he downloads his opponents and he did that with a very very difficult and aggressive

Costa who was giving him no room to breathe so I'm so impressed by Yanez a lot of great matches for him I settled on Jack Shore versus the Saeed Namragom Medov winner on September 4th. There's so many directions you could go. I thought, oh, it's whenever Enrique Barzola comes back, I think it's a good matchup for him.

Nathaniel Wood and Jonathan Martinez also fighting against September 4th. But I think I have the Shore Namago Medov matchup ranked a little bit higher, and I'd want to see him get that fight no matter who wins. But there's so many ways he can go, Mike. Bantam weights, man. They're 135. Vantam weights. What a card.

We told, like, we tell people. We tell people. Have we not been telling people? And then you had this card with four, on paper, four really good bantam weight fights, and they all delivered. They were all just, like, it was so sick. Any of these guys, I'm sorry. I know I'm becoming an unprofessional fanboy. But like any of these guys, I'm not even just talking with the winners, any of these

eight guys, you could say a year from now. you could see them being in the top 10 or at least being like on prominent parts on main cards because they're so fun to watch it's just such a great division right now and uh Adrian Yanaz on a lot of other nights

would have been the story of the card on this there's just so much other stuff happening positive and negative it's just great stuff man it's just a great main card it's a great card up and down you know what else you know what's crazy you see we had one

well Kyler Phillips did so technically one two we technically lost two other 135 pound fights including Trevin Jones versus Tony Kelly which would have been ridiculous another sick fight

another sick fight but out Jones is fighting Aaron Phillips I believe on the next card I don't know there's just so much going out at this division and I know the division

obviously they're not the same thing but we technically Aspen Ladd Macy Chiasam was also going to be a 135 that's right that was so intriguing and again again I'm not lumping the divisions together

they're different very different as far as a level of depth But if we're just talking strictly 1 35 pounders, man, it was already a great night. And like you said, we missed a couple of others. But this division is not slowing down. We got plenty of other great matchups coming up, I'm sure, and that will come out of this card. So really. Yes.

Now we head to the wild card round, AK. We're going to select one fighter. We have not match made for yet, and we will do so right now. So what is your wild card pick coming out of UFC Vegas 32? I didn't overthink it. I won't with the Jar, Uympx. I think it's, I was amazed. she made championship weight on Friday.

She left flyweight like three years ago because she couldn't make the weight. She's a pretty strong, big strong lady. And she looked amazing. First of all, I said on Friday on the scale, her body looked transformed. She looked incredible. And then on fight night, she delivered against,

of course, an undersized, short-noticed opponent, but that's fine. That's what she was supposed to do. She went in, took care of business, didn't get hurt. She didn't play around. And you really got to see the best version of Sajara Eubank. So I already have her now in my top 15 of the rankings.

I keep reminding people she beat Lauren Murphy way, way, way back in the day. So that's big. I said I wouldn't rank her above her now. But that has some currency with me as far as ranking as far as ranking Stajara. So she's in my top 15 outside the top 10. Viviani Arrojo, I think would be a good fight for her. Viviani Arrojo is in my top 10. So I think Eubanks gets a chance to earn that spot.

I'll just say now, we got a lot of math. matchmaking suggestions for you banks and they were all over the place some people clearly say are saying you know what let's just get her on that title path track now what what's you know why wait she's she's she's been around for a while she's a veteran let's just get her on there other others are are looks like they want to use her as a test for some up-and-comers but we'll get to that later so for me I'm on the title fight side I think she's one or two fights away from competing she looks really really, really good. We do need to see her against, of course, a proper flyweight opponent and one that's, you know, has a full camp. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't overthink it either. Sometimes in this

wildcard round, the fighter does it for us, and that's what Mickey Gall did last night, gets quick submission win over Jordan Williams, looks sensational in doing so, calls for the Carlos Condit rebooking. The story is there. Their story lines there with the Matt Brown fight, and, of course, Matt Brown was in the corner Mickey Gall last night, so I am more than okay with making that fight happen and rebooking that one. So that's what I'm going with. Yeah. Look, Mickey Gall, always good with the callouts.

He didn't do anything over the top this time, but he let it be known. He's like, yep, conned it. I still want it. Let's do it. So I still see a lot of potential in Mickey Gall. Is that crazy? I get it. I know.

He looks amazing. Like, I wouldn't watch the highlight. I mean, there wasn't much to watch because he finished it so quickly, but he looked really good. His Vera Nickett choke is just terrifying. But I get it. The book on him is, people who are ranked lower than him, he destroys when he's matched up with some more veteran,

or not even more veteran, but just a higher ranked person, he loses. That's the story so far. He's, I'm going to check him out, he's 29. He's in the prime of his career. He's still very young, I think, and especially mileage-wise. That was only his 10th fight. People don't give up on Mickey Gahl yet.

Again, like I said, yes, he hasn't beaten, he hasn't won any of these step-up fights yet, but I think you're right. The Condent one would be a great start if he can get that fight. and get that win. And I think we eventually, again, are maybe someday talking about Mickey Gall as a top of Dean guy.

He's far away right now. He's far away. But two or three win over conned it, a couple more wins after that. There's something there with Mickey Gall. Yeah. And Jordan Williams is tough, man. He went 15 minutes of freaking Nasredeanaymovoff and his UFC debut. And Nasdaennavah finished Ian Hinesh last night.

So wild, man. That was a great performance. Do we have any check that's, tapes or mic checks or anything like that? No, we kind of have a check of tapes, but there's really everyone, those listeners, fans, you, me, the media, we're breathing the same side of relief

that I think we breathe the last time Al Jamein Sterling and Peirot or Yon were matched up. Again, that's something everyone wanted before. I don't think everyone was quite as unanimous, wanting it the second time. I think they want to see Yon get a chance, but then with all the stuff that happened with T.J. coming back and, you know, the Bantuway division

moving so quickly. I did see, you know, We have seen people mentioning, like, could someone get in there instead and face Sterling before Yon? But most of us, at least on this show, Mike, were wanting to see that rematch made. So fingers crossed. I know contracts apparently have not been signed, but the plan is October 30th, UFC 267 on what sounds like it will be a free, or not free. It's an ESPN Plus pay-per-view show slash ESPN. And it will not be a, it won't be like priced regularly. It'll be free, quote unquote, free if you have ESPN Plus, I think.

That's the plan right now. So, yeah, a little confusing what's going on there. But yes, Abu Dhabi, 267. We all, that check the tapes for all of us. Tip of the cap, everyone for pushing for that one, I guess. All right. Let's go to the peeps. I'm going to fly through these.

This might be the most. Did you not get like an insane amount of, holy crap, a lot of people had suggestions. So I don't think I'm going to, I might not read all of them, Mike. I'll be honestly. I might have to skip over some of these. I know we do have time. We do have time to play around with it that I'm wasting right now. Should I give them the disclaimer?

Yes. Okay. Guys, we're mostly going to read out winners unless they're in the main event or in the title fight. We like to highlight unique matchups that only one of you guys, but again, there's not an overlap. The fighter could already be booked, people, please, when you're looking these fights up, hit topology up real quick, just to see if there's even a rumored fight coming up. You may have just made a mistake, wrong weight class. Maybe the two fought already. I saw that a bunch of times this week.

There might be an injured, someone's injured, you know, and so it's not worth mentioning. And then most of the golden rule, your pick might just be do-do, and we're not going to read it. All right. Ronan Murphy, we're starting right there. Yanez, good TKO win.

Appropriate step up, winner in Nathanie Wood versus Jonathan Martinez. They fight September 4th. No issue with that. Miranda Maverick got robbed. Close fight. Thought it was obviously Maverick 29-28. Why not give her Jojo?

Or give Jojo to either because they could book Maverick like she won like they did with Cheeto after the Song Yadong, quote-unquote loss. Elkins versus Tucker, neat fight. Tucker is somewhat of a name even with the loss to Ige. He wants to see Piva State 125 and fight Asker Ascarov. Dilleshaw for the title. Sanhagen is with you, winner of Munoz versus Aldo because neat fight. I agree.

Brandon Nunez. Allen versus Tavares Janus versus Montel Jackson Barbara versus I Piva versus O'Malley What do you think of that idea? I guess because he beat Kyler Phillips

training partner of Sean and friend of Shana Malay Yeah there's some logic there I don't know how interested O'Malley is in that Kyler versus Cheeto Sanhagen another Munoz versus Munoz versus Aldo Dillosh versus whoever is the belt

or Rob Font Okay Poppy underscore Bryant I was away at the cottage so I only watched a couple fights Yannes versus Davy Grant sign me up that was a popular that was a popular one

I saw that a lot Barber versus Montana de la Rosa not ready for a jump up and he wants a robbery review don't you worry Poppy Bryant robbery review forthcoming It will be done TJ versus Rob Font

and another Sanhagan versus Aldo if he beats Munoz or the loser of Yon versus Sterling. A lot of crazy judging tonight says Con Whizzle 91, our friend Sean, due to the time

of the band of weight championship likes to T.J. versus Fonts at the end of the year, although Dana will probably just give T.J. the title shot. Piva versus Stamen. Elkins versus Cubb Swanson. Another Barber versus Ayanna's versus Casey Kenny. Kenny has a fight coming up. He does.

He is fighting. Who's he fighting? He's fighting. It's a good one, too. Song it off. Yes, he is fighting songy dong. Next Saturday, as a matter of fact. So, yeah, time-wise, timeline-wise, they could work.

Next, next Saturday. Next Saturday. Not this coming Saturday. Next Saturday. August 7th. Oh, wait, is that August? Wait, what year is this right now? Is this 2021?

Yeah. No, wait. Not this Saturday. Next Saturday. Next, oh, next Saturday. August 7th. Yes, August 7th. Next Saturday.

Okay, okay, my mistake. Yes, yeah, you said next Saturday. Okay, yes. Correct. You're correct. Next Saturday. He grew up. Sean also agrees Brandon Allen versus Brad Tavares.

Kyle Adam Smith, we have a newcomer, A.K. Welcome. Welcome, all the newcomers. Crazy split for the main. I had a three to two for Sandman winning, but never know what the judges. T.J. versus Font is what he would go with. Maybe T.J. versus the winner of Aldo Munoz. I think the I call it was good for Barber.

Gritty match for Barbara Maverick. Was glad to see Barbara getting one back in the wind calm. I don't think Kyle said. Kyle certainly didn't come out and say Barbara won. Nick Eggley, another first-timer, long-time listener. I think you have TJ versus Font, depending on his medical suspension. Sanhagen versus Cruz. I know it sucks for him, but we all want to see it.

So that's just like a pick for us all. Elkins versus Paneda. I won't match wake for Barber because she lost in anybody with the brain's eyes. Wow. And then he goes, Piva Simone, Yanez versus Montel Jackson. Montel versus Yonnas versus Montel Jackson. I didn't see it. I got so many Yanez matchups.

I did not. You've already read out Montel Jackson twice. I actually did not get a Montel Jackson one. But I like that. I'm surprised. I did not see that until you mentioned it. Owen Carroll, Belbita versus NUA, UBanks versus I.

RSA Woodson. That's not bad. No, Witts is a 45er. Can't do that. I'd love to see him make 135. Yeah. What's, there's no way.

What should have to cut off one of his legs to make 135. I would love to see a 135 pound, John Wilson, please. That would be ridiculous. Mickey Gall v. Court McGee. Imovov versus Andre Munez. Allen versus Shabazian. I like that idea.

Yannes versus Phillips. Maverick versus Shifachshanko. And I was going to say Shepchenko, but pronouns, pal. By the way, you didn't see the Daniel Cormié moment where he saved Brendan Allen's post-fight interview. Because I think Brennan was trying to be kind of cool and cryptic. He did, you know, he did that thing that a lot of fighters do when they, introduced like the wins like who you call it out he's like you know you know DC there's a guy out there who something something something and he just kind of stopped and like didn't actually say

who it was and then and then and then and then and then corme was like say the name say the name and then now's like oh yeah yeah sorry it was like he was like oh yeah i wanted the shot strickland rematch or uh or shabazzian so it's like look and i and i don't blame brand down he just want to fight the adrenaline still pumping you don't you know you don't remember all your promos but thank goodness correa was there to uh to say say his name i i don't know he was talking about So it was probably just for his own curiosity. I knew he wanted the Strickland rematch, but the Shabazzian call, I think, was new.

So I was like, oh, okay, good. I know he wants to play now. Owen Carroll likes Barber versus Lee, and then did the old carrot up and said bullshit decision. Minner versus Chase Hooper. Another Elkins versus Swanson, Piva versus Timor Valley of.

Which is five of me. John Ray. Mia Culpa, I'm not knowing Ray Rodriguez is no longer part of the UFC. I hope I do better this. time around. John, you're all right. You're all right. You're not the only, he's not the only one.

It comes, a lot of the suggestions sometimes I just don't know. Second Skype. Someone's gone. Belbeda versus Bayes-Dapala winner. Those two ladies will fight this week. Sure. This Saturday. This Saturday.

This coming Saturday. This coming Saturday. July the 31st. U. Banks, Anthony Shepchenko, Arseh versus Tony Gravely, Mickey Gall, Gaw, versus Dwight Grant. I'mov versus Juno-Jung Park. Allen versus Munez. Yonaz, Davy Grant.

Barbara Lee, Piva versus Jimmy Rivera, and bonus, Aspin Ladd versus Arrini Eldana. Piva, Jimmy Rivera. Damn. That's a really big win for Piva that he's in out, like, the people are matching up with top 10 guys. I think Jimmy Rivera's in the top 10 still,

or at least 1112 at least, I would say, in our rankings, but yeah, wow, that's a big win. Yeah, Evan Rodriguez, Elkins versus Charles Rosa. Fun fight would be awesome. Grappling Showcase, Phillips versus Nativie Dod. Yannes versus Garbrandt. Screw it. Why not?

Knockout King Adrian Yannes versus a guy who will throw down. I understand Cody's going back going to flyway, but man, this is a... Settle down. Brandon Allen versus Chris Widman. I think we're... I think we're way too soon to be thrown out

Chris Wyman fight ideas. People, I'm throwing up for the X here. No, Chris Wodge's matches. Please, please, come on. Not on here, Wyman, McGregor, none of that, guys. Come on now. So Jeff Neal and Jeff Neal, Kevin Holland, and Chris Wyman are on the band list right now.

We're not matching Chris Wyman. Maybe even T.J. Dilsha. We'll see. I assume he might get an MRI or something this week, and who knows. And last one for Evan Rodriguez, Mickey Gall versus Ian Gary, aka. What do you think of that? I saw people saying this before Saturday. People were saying if Mickey Gall wins, he would be a good matchup for Ian Gary. So I don't know if there's some heat there or something or if it just, I saw a lot of people suggesting this. So maybe it's just a logical matchup. People have seen a lot of Mickey Gall to kind of know what to expect from him. I don't have a problem with it.

I actually, I mean, I think I know a lot of people are high on Ian Gary. I don't think that's a layup matchup for him at all. So if that's why fans are making that matchup, I think they are mistaken. I think Gall could definitely beat him. But I understand. Gall has somewhat of a name. and as we mentioned previously has kind of yet to win, quote unquote, win the big one. So maybe they think that's an opportunity for Gary instead.

Alec Aalian. Elkins versus Dawadu. Yannes versus Umar and Amaramaadamadov, Piva versus Casey Kenney, winner lose. Mickey Gall versus Abu Bakar. Amagamatoff, Macy Barber versus Jojo Calderwood. Robbie Ryan, our friend Aussie Daddloak. Let's see, something we haven't seen yet. Tyler Phillips versus Maro and Vera. I'm okay with that.

Robbie Ryan agrees with the Macy Barber call out of Jessica I. Grasso and Roxy rematches aren't the best right now. Talia Santos is another option. Miranda Maverick does not go backwards after that performance. He would give Marina Maverick the injury-le fight. Not a bad idea. Mickey Gallup versus Jake Matthews or a veteran like Condit Brown would be suitable. He's not going to fight Matt Brown, that's for sure.

Our man, Francesco from Italy. Piva versus Jack Shore. Elkins versus Casares. Yannes versus Lewis Smolka. Wildcards. Eminoff versus Julian Marquez. Mickey Gall versus Sato. Mike, what's up with Julian Marquez?

Again, I got him too in my messages. Is he just chilling? He's not like injured or anything, right? He's just kind of chilling waiting for the right matchup. Yeah, I think he's possibly targeting a November return. turn. I can't say anything yet. There's nothing wrong with that. If you're a fighter and you can afford to not compete and focus

on a lot of fighters say how much they love times when they were like maybe forced to be on the shelf for like six to eight months and how much they improved rather than necessarily being on like a one fight every three or four month cycle. So that's what Marquez is doing. If he has the time and the money to just

fight on his own schedule, I highly encourage it. And I think that's great. So I'm not calling out Julian Marquez or anything saying like, oh, why isn't this guy getting back? in it. No, Marquez, you live in your life. You've got this, you have this buzz around you after all your fights. You're a popular ot no pick. You keep doing you, buddy.

Keep doing you. Matt Rovelli back in our lives. Some great fights tonight. I know it's going to be super obvious, but I want Brandon Allen versus the winner of Sean Strickland versus Jariah Hall. I now think Adrian Yannis versus Cody Stamen is the right fight. It's right outside the top 15. Think that

fight would be a lot of fun. Also, a fight Yannis couldn't start slow with. All right. Patrick Goss and Mickey Gall versus Nico Price First I've seen in that one Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it Man, I think, and that's, I think Gall could win that one Yeah, that's a good fight.

I think he could, okay. Sejarre U Banks versus Manon Fioreau After Manon knocks out her opponent in September I saw that Darren Elkins versus Billy Q Arce versus O'Malley Himovar versus Tavares Macy lost that fight, so Miranda Maverick

It's the matchmaking, according to Patrick, and she's going with Andrew Lee as well. Sure. Our man, Luke, no matchmaking. But thank you. Thank you, Luke. I read your message. I appreciate that. What is going on here?

All right. Kyle Thomas coming through here. Mike, I'm going to say this, and I do not care what anyone says. Corey Sanhagen won that fight, period. Yes, I'm upset. now I'm not going to say it was a robbery but he did enough to get the nod but whatever

what do I know and now the matchmaking um well see if we all right Adrian Yonda versus Nate Manis Darren Elkins versus Chas Skelly uh wildcard

I can't believe they haven't fought before I mean I looked that one up too and I was like they never fought before like no Nasrudine Amavov versus Jordan the Beverly Hills Ninja right is his wild card pick.

Where's our buddy, John George? Corey Sanhagan won that fight! That's how he typed this. They will see each other again, down the road, and Corey will finish the job, AK. That's what he says. Until then, after the BS call, Corey will have to dismantle the winner

of Aldo Munoz or a Rob Fon fight, but defiantly could see him get... Oh, definitely, see him getting back in there before the end of the year and the belt will be his by this time next year and then Brandon Allen versus Ed Mitchibazian

Best Girl Fight of the weekend is a guess of the question what was it was Paige Vansan versus Rachel Ostevich I was gonna say yeah okay that's just teeing you up for Btfc thing yeah that was definitely that fight

Yannes versus Kyler Phillips he likes as well I believe that's it damn you people you're good so many like I said I don't know if I can read all these So yeah, all right, Mike, I'll just get going.

So first of all, we got a new emailer. We got Joe Young, mighty Joe Young coming in. Coming in from Melbourne, Melbourne, Australia. Joe, if you're listening to this episode and any other Australian, I know we have a bunch of Australian fans because of the time zone and when the show goes up, if you, when the UFC goes to Melbourne, I'll go to Melbourne. I know John Anick says Melbourne, some people say Melbourne.

Is that accurate or is this being dumb and, like, kind of doing, saying, you know, Melbourne and trying to do it with an accent. So Australian fans, please let me know, DM me and let me know, do you prefer if we just anglicize it, you know, I just call like Melbourne or Melbourne, or do you prefer it, or is it actually supposed to see Melbourne? Or is it the way I'm saying specifically, just really bad. But anyway, Joe Young coming in from, I'll just say Australia for now. And he likes, of course, Sanhagen versus Cruz.

I scored the five for Sanhagen. I want to see him get a big name, which he'd be heavily favored to win. He'd be heavily fit. Mike, opening odds for Sanhagen Dominic Cruz, no higher than minus 250. That's right. I'd probably open than that. Okay. I don't think it'd be a, I guess that's, I guess that is heavily.

I guess anything two to one or more is somewhat heavily favored. But I don't think we're talking three to one, four to one here. I don't know. Maybe it would move. I don't know. Yanez versus Vallyev. He says it's a crazy fight. Brennan Allen versus Brad Tavares, which everybody like, Macy Barber, and Jessica I, that was popular one, of course.

And Imov v. versus Drikas duplasi. Oh, I forgot to run down. So obviously the most popular picks, Dillishaw versus Sterling Jan winner, or Dillishaw versus Font, or Sandhagen versus Fond. So we discussed those. We mentioned it, Mike. Your listener picks mentioned it. Feels like one of those is going to happen in there somewhere.

For Paiva, most popular one, Chido Vera. Elkins got a ton of matchups. Amir Connie, Damon Jackson, Quintillo, Gavin Tucker. The most popular one I saw was Lando. Vanada. That would be such a bizarre and wild clash of styles. That fight would go, unless, I was going to say

Venada somehow knocks him out in the first round, which seems impossible with Darren Elkins. That fight would just have it'd be like a friggin roller coaster. I don't know if I'm emotionally prepared for that, but that was the most popular Elkins matchup I saw. Yanez versus Davy Grant. Again, he got out a bunch of other names, Barcelo, Stephen Rivera, Smokka,

Stamen, Iman's a hobby. So all across the board for Adrian Yannis. From Brennan Allen, people like Munez, Andre Munez. So that is, I like that too, and also Brad Tavares. And then I mentioned Julian Marquez before. That was the number one matchup I saw for Imov was the Cuban Missile Crisis. And yeah, Mickey Gall of all the welterweights out there, one who hasn't even been in the UFC, as you mentioned, we talked, we just discussed Mike. People really want to see him fight Ian Gary. So maybe people know something I don't. But that is what the ought no listeners want

next for Mickey Gall. Back to the emails. Tom Roder coming in, some good, a couple of good ones. Holland Paiva versus Eddie Weinland. So give him a veteran name there. Mickey Gall versus Francesco Trinaldo or Jared Gooden. Harry Dwaskin proudly proclaiming in my emails, he said, I back.

Trust me, I back. And he likes RSA versus Valiev. Yeah, one I would have done too. He's with me on Alkins versus Casares and a Sanhagen versus Munoz Aldo winner. So me and Harry Duoscan, we're viving big time. Robert Miller, he just said straight up, Dillishaw versus Yon. He just says, he says Sterling, he thinks Yon beats Sterling.

I think that's what he's saying. Oops, sorry, let me read that again. I may have botched that one. Sorry, yes, he doesn't think Sterling beats Yon is what I wrote this wrong. So, yes, Sterling, he's just assuming Yon will win the rematch, have him fight Dillashah, that's a title fight he wants, San Haygan, go get font. Barber versus Montana de La Rosa. He says, by no means, should Barbara retreated like a winner after this fight,

finally get a much-needed step back, and Delarosa might really get the hype train rolling again, maybe, or derail it permanently. And Mike, I don't know if you said this one. Elkins versus Stephen Peterson. I did not say that one. That's fun. For some reason, I thought Peterson wasn't with the promotion, but he's coming off a win, so I don't know why I would think that. Alkins Day is a possible contender are way gone. Best thing to do, put him in fun, winnable fights at this point.

he didn't save Vanada because he feels like Alkins is above Vanada in the rankings, probably true at Featherweight and Stephen Peterson would be fun, but also a good chance for the damage to win. So Robert Miller, I like where your heads are. And Danny Capps coming in. He likes Barber versus Eubanks,

Gaul versus Danny Roberts, and Brendan Allen versus Jack Hermanson. I had not thought about that. I had not thought about Jack Hermanson. Where are you at, buddy? We've got to get you back in that. back in that. He just fought.

He didn't fight that long ago. Was that May? Fight a man Shabazzian. Is that May? Yeah, it's two months. That's so long ago. Give him a break. That's May.

God. What did he do yesterday? What has he done recently? Let's go to Twitter. God, I got so many here. Sorry, it's going to take a second. I do have this organized. First, start giving me crap.

All right? I like to have double up my notes here. Because we had a new contributor. Yeah. Brian Cashman. What? The former general manager of the New York Yankees? The former GM of the New York Yankees, I cannot confirm or deny.

Brian Cashman 15 on Twitter guys, give him a follow. Maybe it's him. He only has a few followers, so probably not. But Brian Cashman, this is you. You know, again, fine work you did in the early, in the odds with the Yankees. but I want to read his message just complimenting me for sort of replacing you for a little bit

and welcoming you back Mike of course from Tampa he wants to see Yan has got a slight bump so David Grant or Nathania Woods says feed him in Englishman he feels like the Alan Strickland rematch will always be there he says let it boil longer give Alan Brad Devaris and he also and he does not want to see Alan

submit Edmund Shibazin and then his selection he likes Mickey Gall and cond it but says would also like to add to Mickey's already crazy UFC career, give him James Krause. Oh. Can never go wrong throwing James Krauss in this conversation. It's, Mike, where's he at?

What's he playing again? Whenever he wants. He has no, when he feels like fighting, he will. And when he doesn't, he'll coach. That's like we said before. He has the luxury of taking fights whenever he wants, and that's a great place to me. He was in Derek Minter's corner last night, was he not?

He was? Yeah, whose corner? Minters, right? Was he not? He should have it. He might have been, because I think I saw him tweet about it later. Yeah. Okay.

But yes, Jake, just Jake on Twitter, Jake and a bunch of numbers after his name. He contacted me last week. This would be his first time actually being mentioned. His suggestion, Imovov versus middleweight Bruno Silva. Brennan Allen versus Edmund Shabazian. He says a little different look than Soriano, more of a range fighter. great test for both guys and Shabazzan needs to test his ground game. So he is not as concerned as former Yankees GM of Brian Cashman.

And Yanez versus Valleyev, electric fight, fight of the night waiting to happen. Good wrestling test for Yanez. So there you go. So good matchups there. Jake, thank you. Chris at Dragon Slayer 2 says Mickey Gall and Worley Alves. Yeah, I like it. Thomas GCT.

I wanted to read his comment about... Right, right. First of all, he's down with Sandhagen versus Fonda Cruz. Either way, he's happy. And he called, we can swear on the show, right, Mike? I said bullshit, so. You did? Yeah, well, again, the same word here.

He said, with regards to Barbermaverick, that was some baby back bullshit. So not offending the call. Michael Perugini calling this the Bantamweight Bangers edition of On the next one. He likes Brennan Allen Tavares. Mickey Gall versus Takashi Sato. I'm not sure what's going on there. I think Gall would destroy him. and Diana Belbita shout out Stony Creek, Ontario

versus Leongna. J.C. Rodriguez is with you. He's pushing for Barbara Andrew Lee. Stephen Brighter. Stephen Brighter coming in. He read a message that I wanted to. A very nice message. What was it? I forgot to read it after.

Oh, yes. Okay. He wants to build towards an Allen street. Build towards the Allen Stryken rematch. Go with Munez Ortevaris for Brennan Allen first. and then he mentioned, oh, Imov versus Omar Akhmadav. I don't blame him for missing this. Omari Akhmadav was just cut, I think, this past week, right, Mike?

Yes, he was. Yeah, so people, I don't blame you guys for missing that one. And also because Omar Akhmato is a pretty good middleweight, so I think a lot of people were surprised in that news. He also wants Ayanez versus the song Kenny winner, and Dillashaw versus the Sterling Yon loser. He says, no way, no way TJ gets a tell a shot after one fight. Give him Dom Cruz if he doesn't want to wait and he can avenge that loss.

He doesn't think Dom will take that fight, though. And then, Sanhagen respond. All right, guys, I'm getting through here. UFC reports. Oh, has a question for us, Mike. We're inserting a little question and answer segment in here. I like, all right. Q&AS.

He wants to know, how do you go about matchmaking when you see a fight with this? We kind of answered this partially, but how do you go about matchmaking when you see a fight very differently from the official decision? This card had some interesting score cards, say the least. When you see a fight where the judges potentially got it wrong, does that impact how you matchmaking for the winner and or a loser? You'd love to hear our thoughts on this, Mike. Mike, I've kind of talked about this. Mike, I'll go right to you.

Yeah, I mean, this is, unfortunately, we do the show based on what the results say. You know, we'd like to sit there and we're not going to, we're on the business of discrediting fighters. Like, we can make, have our opinion and things like that, but we're not going to go as far as not matchmaking from A.C. Barber, just because I, I don't think she won the fight. I mean, she goes down, it's in the record books as she won the fight. So per the rules of this program, we matchmake for the winner of the fight. Now, should we be matchmaking for either Haile Impaiva or Kyler Phillips? No, because that would have been a draw, and that is the only caveat to the rules.

If there's a draw or something happens, there's a DQ, no contest, et cetera, then we don't matchmaking for it. Those are the rules of the program. but Macy Barber, despite what apparently the whole world thinks, she won. And she gets match made for it. Now, this is where you guys come in. This is where the wild card rounds come in. This is where the listeners come in. You want a matchmake for Miranda Maverick?

You want to call her the winner? Go right ahead. We will read your thoughts. We will put them out into the universe. And it seems like everybody who has made suggestions coming out of that fight is saying bad words, bad language, swears, curse words, if you will. In regards to the judging, and you have every right to do that. And you can matchmaking for Miranda Maverick if you'd like, and a lot of you are doing that.

So there you go. I will say, Mike, it usually does prevent me from giving them a big jump up in the rankings that they might have gotten, of course, with a less controversial win. So it does affect, I think it does affect. A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Mike, I want to ask you, what about rankings? Because I'll tell you something.

I have the same policy with rankings kind of. A win is a win to me, barring something completely crazy, like a Sanchez-Person type thing, which I don't know. Maybe that's how people view Miranda Maverick. and Macy Barber, but I don't think it was that bad. But if they do, I can understand that. So for me, I mean, really, I'm more asking about San Hagan and Dillishaw. For me, Dillishaw takes San Hagan spot in my rankings. I can tell you, Mike, producer Casey, on the post-fight show, said he will not rank Dillishaw above Sanhagen.

When we do our, when we do our next set of M.A. fighting rankings on his ballot, Sanhagen will be above of T.J. Dillishaw. I don't have a problem with that. Also because of the inactivity, I guess. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's part of it. That'd be part of it for me. I mean, if he goes out there and he ranks Dillishah like 12, that's just assonine. Which if there's anybody on our staff that would do such a thing, it would be Casey.

There's just don't tell about it. I don't want to, people are going to start demanding to see our individual ballots. Maybe someday. You know, ask Casey nicely. We'll see. Maybe he'll share with you. But yes, we have some. Our car, there's some deviation between our ballots.

Let's put it that way to put it nicely. And UFC report had a really good recommendation. I like UBanks versus, and as high, I think, as anyone saw anyone give her an opponent. Andrade versus Calvio loser, UFC 266, September 25th. So that would be a really big matchup for you. A big step up. Yeah, after returning to 125. But again, she looks like, again, she has some, she also beat Roxanne Montefari,

catchweight bout, but she does have a win over Roxanne Montefari as well. So technically wins over like two top 10 UFC flyways. I don't know. I got it. I'm kind of, but here's, here's my thing, though.

Like, she beat Elise Reed. And Elise Reed is a, is a nice prospect. Yes. Okay. She's a nice prospect.

Not a flyway. She beat some really, she beat Jazz and Dasdivisius in a fight that a lot of people thought, let's be clear. Jasmine got robbed. Um, she starts Hillary Rose,

which is very difficult to do because Cheyenne Bayes put the wood to Hillary Rose and couldn't finish her. Uh, but Elise is able to finish her. Gilline de Corse is a nice win. But again, but reads 4 and O. And she said it herself when I talked to her. Like, if this fight goes to the ground, eh, this might not end well for me.

But if it stays on the feet, it's probably not going to end well for her. And Eubanks probably heard that interview in some way and was like, screw this noise. I'm taking her right down. And then she beat her up. She busted that eye up. And Elisa isn't even a 1-25er. Like, we got to give Sejar another win. Like, Shajar is going to fight.

Yeah, Shajar's got to fight some. She fought an Adam weight. At least Reed fought at Adam weight in her first pro fight. She fought at 105. Yeah, Elise is a 115er. She's a, she's a straw weight. She will never fight. You will never see her fight at 125 again unless it's like a massive opportunity for a title or something.

She's going right back down to 115. She thought she was playing with house money. She knew Sejarra was tough. I don't think that, like, we should not be talking about Jess Gondraj and Scythi Calvillo right now after that win. We should, we can't. I'm sorry. It was an impressive performance. She treated her a court.

she treated Elise Reid accordingly. Based on the betting lines, that's what she was supposed to do. But now we get to give her somebody, give her an Antonita Shevchenko. Give her somebody like that. Give her somebody in the top 15 or just outside of it. Elise Reid is not who you base how good she is off of. You just,

just not the way that this is supposed to be done. So give her somebody in the rankings. She goes out there and destroys Antonita Shevchenko like that. Sure. We'll start throwing her in there with other people like that. If you want, you know, throw her to Macy Barber. Give, you know, have her fight Macy Barber. Have her fight Miranda Maverick.

How about Sagar R. U.Banks versus Miranda Maverick? That fight makes a hell of a lot of sense to me. Do that. She does that to Miranda Maverick. She could fight Cynthia Calvia the week after. You got no problem. No issue. No issue with that.

But we're not putting her in title contention after beating Elise Reed. I'm sorry. A UFC report. The man has spoken. The door is open for you to respond. my DMs. I will give you a mic check segment if you would like to respond to that passionate retort from Mike on that matchup suggestion. Thank you, Michael. Thank you of C. Report as well. I'm going to show. And one more thing. One more thing. She's got to make way for that fight too.

Again, of course. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. She nailed it this first time. You're right. We don't know if she's in the clear yet, but she did make it. We should say again, 125 on the dot. Braden O'Neill coming in with, first of all, I wanted to read his same. Sanehagen score. What did he say about San Hagan here? I really got to screen these better. I think it was someone else. It just says, oh, it just says Sanhagen Mavericka Rob, Phelpsiubishov and

Shadevichita. Yanez versus Wood Martinez winner. Imov v. Duplice. Hulia R.A. versus Tony Gravely. And Mickey Gull versus Diego Lima. Yeah, I like that. I think Gall wins that one, but I do like the thinking behind that matchup, though.

Brett Mowbly This is the one I meant to read the score Oh I'm sorry this is where I went to read the scope Sorry guys, my notes are terrible He says I personally had a 48 47 Corey but it is tough for me to remove bias Because he reps Colorado Go CSU Rams

That was me adding that in for Brett by the way That was Brett not Brett doing that Anytime you hear me say Go CSU Rams It's me saying it not Brett And then anyway He says font by the end of the year With the winner getting the next title of shot So

Okay so he's removing DIL shot from this equation right now He thinks Fondon Sannhagen are the guys should be fighting to be number one contender. I think that's what he's saying. Yeah. Oh, no, maybe he missed saying T.J. Oh, no, I'm sorry. No, he meant T.J.

Okay. He meant T.J. Because he later clarified. San Hagan versus Cruiser O'Malley. And then Elkins versus Choi. Maverick versus Saldiomado. I mean, Andrea Lee. What about Dave Hagan?

Mawley, why does Dave Hagan get off the home? And he goes completely off the reservation here. He says Sandhagen versus I was going to read this verbatim. Sanhagen versus Holloway. Does this make sense? No. Does Max already have a fight and is injured?

Yes. But Corey broke a Dem of May as a featherweight and debuted in the UFC as a featherweight. Sometimes we should just try to have fun. This is true. This is not even the dumbest Max matchup I have tried to make in the last two weeks, so we should at least think about it. I can't think of a fight in the entire sport.

That would be more fun than this one. So who cares if it doesn't make any sense at all? Thanks, Fred. Yes. Liam Barry, a lunch of great suggestions. RC versus Grant, Mickey Gall, versus the Brian Barbarina, Jason Witt winner, July 31st. Imovao v. Tom Breeze. Brendan Allen versus cannoneer Gastilum loser.

So potentially a top 7-8 guy for Brendan Allen's next fight. I think Liam had a relation for this. Should I let him have his word? He says, oh my gosh. Okay. Oh, he doesn't like Strickland new match or Shabazzian. Strickland too soon First fight

After the first fight Excuse me And Shavazia needs a lower ranked opponent To gain confidence So that's why he went with Possibly Gasslam or Canonir And Elkins versus Tukov I think Tukov is injured

I will say he had to withdraw From a fight recently But it was Maybe a couple of months ago Which you know as I've said earlier It's like in my mind It's like two years ago So maybe he's fully healed by now

Locktagon Coming in with Elkins versus Ryan Hall 2 and he just says, because why the F not? He didn't write F, but you can figure out what he meant. Ain't No Expert coming in with some Ain't No Expert picks, I guess. Alkins versus Akim Duwadu, Imavov versus Munis, Gall versus Kinan Song, Hulia RSA versus Cody Stamen, U-Banks versus Deloresa.

And he says, Belbita versus Lipski, and I added this note. I don't know if he knows they fought before. Also, Lipsky is a flyweight now, Blabita dropped down to 115 on Saturday for the fight with Hannah Goldie. And Lipski actually beat Belveda when they fought in May 2017. KSW 39, she won by first round Arm Bar. So I don't know if you're calling for a rematch, A No Expert, but I'm just going to say you are, and you guys can pretend all those notes I just said were from A No Expert.

Well done, sir. Creative matchmaking. I just don't know what weight classed up yet. Four Corner Sports, NY, Yanez versus Yadong Song, Casey Kennedy Loser, Alkins v. Swanson, we talked about before, and Corey Sanhagan versus Aldo or Cruz. he says, Corey may need to take a step back.

He originally wanted to have him fight Marab, but that's too far back. Ideally, Corey faces someone who moves a lot like Cruz, but also someone who knows out a kick and blast you with vicious leg kicks like Aldo. I don't know if I'd say Aldo and Cruz move alike. But he's another win over Legends.

Corey can ride the Randy Orton theme, The Legend Killer. Thomas Collins, the only person I saw recommend this, Belbita versus Kay Hanson. Okay. Yeah? Kind of make sense, I think. Marcus McGehy, calling this the, what are you?

These judges, Am I Right? Edition of on to the next one. Piavi-Vor versus Davy Grant, Yonnes versus John Castaneda, Imavov, Jordan Wright, Mickey Gall, Gabe Green, Belbita versus the Bayes, the Paula winner next week. Excuse me, this coming weekend. Barry, I'm almost done with Twitter. Barry O'Reilly.

Belveda, Bell, I am 90. 38% sure Mike. I have said Velvita instead of Belveda at some point during this podcast. I saw a lot of Velvita boxes on Twitter. Can you not, you just hear, Damon said it. Like I'm hearing Velvita. I'm like every time. Every time they say it, all I hear is Velvita. Belbita versus Pauliana Botelio, Sejar, U. Banks, Antinashvchenko. Yeah, like you said, you wanted to see. And Gaul versus Claudio Silva for a nice B.J. battle or rebook a fight with Mickey Gall and Baezza. She says,

and let's see if Baeasea can bounce back. Or if Gaul wins, that kind of gets them up the rankings, close to the top of 15. I agree. I'm very high in Miguel Baeza. I think that would do that for Gaul if he beat him. Imavov versus Jun Yang Park, another ought no favorite. I don't know where Juniang Park is right now.

And Macy Barber versus Joanne Calderwood. Calderwood, I want to say she kills Barbara, Mike. But Barbara does have that weird, like, she is super talented, I feel like. And she has those weird bursts where you. feel like she could really finish anyone at 125? I don't know. What's your thoughts on that?

I know some of your listeners said it. What's your thoughts on the Barberer Jojo matchup? I don't know. I don't know if it does much for Jojo unless like she just wants to, I mean, I think Jojo and Roxy are close. So maybe that's something that would get her off the couch and get her excited. I would certainly favor Jojo in that fight. It's a big opportunity for Macy.

and it would be, I don't know. I would favor Jojo in that one. I don't know if she, like, destroys her. Macy's tough to finish, like very tough to finish, as we've seen. But, yeah, I mean, I'd watch it, but I would favor Jojo, like, two to one easy. Yeah, right? It feels like there's an enormous striking gap. I don't know, maybe I'm crazy.

I feel like the striking is just so one way for Jojo. Dennis Dustin, Dustin Gedco, I love his message. Hard to come up with picks this week. All I know is if I hear one more person, Taute Yanez versus O'Malley, I'm going to pull my hair out. He says O'Malley, O'Malley would steamroll, Yanez. I do not know about that. I do not know about that.

I think Yanez is a very difficult matchup for him. Like I said, he downloads people, and I don't know how O'Malley would deal with that. He also says, Darren Elkins versus my bank roll. Why do I keep betting against this man? Yes, don't bet on M&M in general. Definitely do not bet on Darren Elkins' fights. And he says he wants to do Hannah Goldie versus Ariani Carnalosi for the most jacked woman at

115 but she blew it so unreal so very sad for Justin Gidcoe he didn't get to see that that muscle war between Hannah Goldie and Ariana Connoisse it's two women just in incredible shape yeah all right let's close out with Instagram Mike I got a corker to close out with it here so if I shortchanged anyone else I apologize

Malka Kana Frey coming in UBanks versus Fioreau you mentioned this one before too Mike I think that's too well I have people very high in Fioreau so maybe not the worst Yannes versus Arce Paiva versus Kastaneda. And he had this to say about T.J. Dillashaw, which I wanted to make a note of.

Oh, yes. I said that fight was great. As good as advertised. Corey versus his font makes sense. TJ versus the next title holder unless King Triple C has something to say about it. That's probably another name we should ban from this show, right? Henry Sehudo. Yeah, I think it's kind of, yeah, I think that should be in the disclaimer.

He's not an active fighter. Do you think he fights again someday? Yes. Yeah, same. I don't know if a non-title fight with T.J. Dillashaw gets him back, but... I do think he finds. I agree. He's got a kid on the way.

He's getting married. Give him a couple of years. So let's see where he's at in his life. I think you could see him fighting him. Yeah. Evan Mayhads. Piva versus Stamen. Imavov versus Brad Tavares.

Mickey Gall, Carl's Condit. Yes. And Sajara, U. Banks. I like this one actually a lot. So Jara U. Banks versus Jillian Robertson. I'm a fan. Good test.

See, that's a fine fight. That's where we should be going with this. Not to the top five of this division. Crazy, crazy, crazy people. But very experienced, flyweight, very tough out at 125. M.A. has well done. I think that's one of my favorite picks this week. J.D. Felt, Brendan Allen versus Christopjokko.

Yanez to win his next fight via Dr. Pepper stoppage. I don't know what that means, but I get it. But I get, you know, fun. Yeah, sure. I mean, I get it because of Dr. Pepper Reese's peanut butter cup thing. I just don't know what a Dr. Pepper stoppage would be. And then Gall versus Condit or CM Punk 2. Speaking of guys who, let's have him fight again, right?

Okay, I got, I read this guy's whole message last time. I won't read it all this time. His messages are hilarious, Mike. I don't know if I'll just stand it to you. But once again for Mr. Just Call Me Bob, who closed out last week's listener suggestions. The Dillelot-Stra. T.J. for the belt feels icky after that performance, assuming his knee is injured, not hurt.

So I'm banging out a big prediction. He announces knee takes him out of the next title fight, and then he has to be Sanhagen and Fon for a number one contender on the yon. And beyond the Yon Alja card. And then T.J. fights the loser of that number one contender fight. So I think that's okay. He says, Darren Elkins versus Jed Michoud. Alkins finally gets to win a fight where he doesn't get bashed in face for 12 minutes straight.

And Jed gets to finally seem like an eloquent speech. speaker by comparison. Wow. I feel like we've done a lot of Jed bashing on some of our shows. Let me just say I obviously, I love Jed. I work with him a lot on Miss Fiss and on, of course, our programming. So I hate to break K-Fabe here. I do love him.

Do I respect him? Again, let's stick to saying nice things about Jed. I do love him. Yes. Well, respect is another. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Jed is great, so I do. I know.

This is a positive show. I don't want to just. I know we're running the man down And then Barber versus Antonina Schiechenko Why did there? Oh yes He calls this a reality check match Not a lose or lease town

Sucks that we had that fight fall through Or I would have Sorry the co-main event fall through Or he would have ignored weight classes And campaigned for Macy versus Macy Yes we almost had a two Macy card On Saturday Mike And unfortunately we were robbed

Hopefully Macy Chess and whatever injury she has Doesn't keep her out of action for long So just three more, and I've got to build up here. Matt Bradbury, Ostovich versus Pro Gonzalez. Mike, a little bit of BKFC for you? No, I don't like that one. No, why? I don't know.

I want to see Britton Hart versus Pro Gonzalez. Well, he wanted to see Britain Hart versus Taylor Starling, but they are friends, I believe. Friends, training partners? Are the training partners? I don't know if they're trying. They might be. They're very close. They're very close.

They will not fight. Unless it's for a BKFC, like world title or something. It would have to be for a lot of money or for a team. Yeah, yeah. This was asked. I believe this was asked before or, I think after, immediately. It was at the press conference, yeah. Yeah, okay.

However, however, I did go watch my interview with Britain Hart, and I asked, I said, listen, I know you guys aren't going to fight each other. You're not going to talk about Taylor as a fighter. I was like, but we're going to stir this pot, okay? So who's the breakout fighter of the year? Is that you are Taylor? And Britain, Britain, a little bit of a heel turn. A little bit of a heel turn. You're such a potster.

I'm such a prick. I'm perfect for BKFC. You're one of the people who made poor Adrianianianas and Randy Costa fight each other. I know you stirred that pot big time. You're one of the big pot stirers there. It's terrible. He's so-called MMA media. But yeah, BKFC 19, by the way, it's highly entertaining a card.

I don't know if I've ever had more fun in my life. That was great. And by the Brin Hart and Stirling and Taylor Sterling both look fantastic in their fights. Oh, my God. So violence. First team all violence. Those two for sure. That was so sick.

Diana Belbita versus Mallory Martin Goldie versus Hannah Goldie versus Hannah Seifers and Matt Bradbury breaking the convention here instead of just saying Hannah X Hannah hashtag Hannah Fight So I don't know Matt I think I like Hannah X Hannah But okay fair enough Hannah Fight at least

Hannah Fight sounds kind of cool UBanks versus Casey O'Neill I don't know about this one But he had something to say about it Um Sar is a proven fighter Skills and Strength is carried up to Phantom weight.

O'Neill is a huge prospect of flyweight. Perfect setup for O'Neill to prove she's ready for ranked women or for stars to become a flyweight contender once again. Okay, there's a logic to it. I don't know if they fight yet. I could see that down the road. That's not next for me. And Gaul versus Abu Bakar, Norma Meadow. This is the fight to make.

This fight will be next when looking through the rankings. I immediately knew this would be the next. Does it suck for Mickey? Okay. Ground Specialist. Gaul, a decent name. Okay. This broke down at some point.

grammatically, but, oh, he's just saying he thinks a Bouvicar will win. It's a good win for the Dagestani. Oh, that's not very nice. And Barbara versus Del Marosa. I had to just shout out our boy literally just for Otno, for just saying, I did a great job in your absence. Mike, Mike the goat, hex absence. He threw a goat emoji in there. So thank you. And then, Mike, we got a message from Nepal. What? The, this is, I don't know, look, people can say they're from anywhere. Maybe this was just making this up. But this is from Suman Janjan, from Nepal. I've been listening to your show for quite a lot.

He says from the land of mountains, Nepal. I've been listening to the show of quite a long time since the pandemic started here. Listening to you guys has surely made my lockdown days quite enjoyable and surely helped me increase my MMA knowledge. Thank you for all the fun. I was thinking for quite a long time to send my suggestion, but was waiting for the right time. Now he's going to do it. T. J. Dillashaw, Rawfant. We all know, Bantamato and Limbo.

And quite frankly, San Hagan won that fight three, two. So I think in order to prove himself, this is, you're very knowledgeable, Zan Jen. So, Yonjan, excuse me. Su, yes, Suman Janja. I thought, yes, prove himself, TG has to fight one more fight. That should be Rob Font. Can be a number one contender match. Put this under Sterling Yon, timing is perfect for all the fighters.

Paiva versus Jim Rivera, Alken's Cup Swanson, Barbara versus Andrea Lee. I thought Maverick won, but the judge just really F this up. I think, okay, are you sure you haven't been watching MMA for a long time? Sumad. Andreana, Adrianna, excuse me, versus Timor Valley.

If nothing to say, will be a banger. Just, P.S. Mike, the MMA community in Nepal is quite small, but slowly and steadily growing.

It's growing thanks to all the people like you who are spreading the knowledge of MMA. That's all for the day. Let's hope my suggestions are not do-do. No, no, uh, no,

yeah, uh, uh, your suggestions were really, really good. And, uh, thank you for,

uh, messing with us from Nepal. I think our first listener, from Nepal. So that's pretty sick. Nepali's. Is that what we call it? I think so, yes. Yes. Well, thank you very much. That was a very kind email.

And we appreciate that. As we appreciate everyone from across all over the globe. Wherever you are. Who submit. Send in your DMs. That was on Instagram where you guys get me, Alexander KK.K. Lee, Twitter, Alexander Kaley. And on email, Alex.

Dotley at SB Nation.com. Mike. Mike Kack underscore J.R. on the Twitter. You can find me at M underscore HeckJR on the Insta. And that's it for this week. Next week, we're back at it again. Another fight night card on paper. Certainly not as good as this one, but

interesting made event at 185 pounds. We've got Uriah Hall versus Sean Strickland. Shemiel Abderahimov will fight Chris Dachis in the co-main event. Yes, elevated to the co-man, thankfully. That's right. Glory DePaula versus Cheyenne Bay. Keung Hokang versus Ronnie Yaya. You get Sam Alvey versus Roman Kapilov.

Winner go home. Winner go home for Sam Alvi, I think. This is it. This is it. I can't believe he's fighting again. And this came together pretty quickly. So good for him. You wanted one more shot?

Brian Barbarina is fighting again. Good on him because he was in some rough shape last year. Taking on Jason Witt. Moneer Lazez, looking to bounce back against Nicholas Stolzzi. Nika Montanio is back. That one might be flying, this story might be flying under the radar more than anything. Well, I think it's everyone's waits

till they see her in the cage before they get too excited. I'm just being real. I'll do it just being real. Against Wu Yanan. Colin Anglin makes his Octagon debut against Melsik. Baghadzzerian. I'm going to go Bogdasarian.

I have a feeling neither of us are close. Raffa Garcia versus Chris Grutzamacher, Danny Chavez versus Kai Kek. Kamaka. Oh, that could be really good. Ashley Oter versus Jinu Frye should be a good one. Trevin Jones. Oh, I'm sorry, Trevin Jones fighting Ronnie Lawrence.

Oh, yes, yes. So you know that's going to be ridiculous. That is an insane point. Bantam weights. Bantam weights. Ryan Koski makes his Octagon debut against Philip Rowe. We've got to battle a Contender Series contracts

winners. And Ryan Benoit, back at 125. You got some approval and some clearance. And he will fight Zeruk Adashev. I would say winner go home for both of those gentlemen as well. Good luck with that cut, Ryan. Good luck, sir.

So, oh my God. How many fights did I just frigging read off? 15. 15 fights? 30 individuals. Knock on wood. 30 individuals will be entering the Octagon, the UFC Apex. Do we know what time this fight card starts?

I hope this is an early one. God, you know it's good. We'll see you on the post-fight show at 3 a.m. folks, because you know with a 15-fight card, there's no way we're getting the early start-time treatment this time around. This one's probably going to start at 8 p.m. Eastern on this card. And you know what, Mike? I think we should do a special edition of on the next one where we match up everyone. Oh, God. Are you shitting me?

Winters and losers. I've officially lost it. I don't know if I have anything else to say right now. I'm falling asleep. It's good. Mike, you crushed it. All right. We're done.

We're out of here. We gave this card an hour and 23 minutes. I think we've done it justice. Thank you, the listeners, by the way. As always, man, just killing it always with these suggestions. Absolutely. So join us next week. We'll talk all things.

UFC Vegas 33, and then we're going to be officially on the road to UFC 265. Two title fights. A new interim heavyweight champion will be crowned. Manon Nunes back against Giuliana Panias. We'll have a lot of discuss over the next couple weeks. But until then, for Alex Kaley, I am Mike Hack. Always remember, don't take this stuff too seriously. M.A. is supposed to be fun.

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