MMA Fighting - On To the Next One: Matches To Make After UFC Vegas 36

Episode Date: September 5, 2021

On the 58th episode of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting’s Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee put on their matchmaker hats following Saturday’s UFC Vegas 36 event, which took place at the UFC APEX. Fut...ure matchups were discussed for Derek Brunson, who earned a third-round submission win in the main event to extend his winning streak to five, Darren Till, Tom Aspinall, Alex Morono, Khalil Rountree, Paddy Pimblett, and more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:41 and use the money to fix your car. Bell Air Direct, insurance, simplified. Conditions apply. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Hello there, everybody, and welcome to a brand new edition of On to the next one as we do some matchmaking. Coming out of UFC Vegas 36, a rare and incredibly welcome Saturday afternoon fight card in Las Vegas where Derek Brunson made himself quite the statement
Starting point is 00:01:22 and the main event. We'll discuss where he goes and much more this week on the program. Plus, we will take your suggestions as well. I am Mike Heck. Thank you for checking out the show as always. And joining me, per usual, is the co-host, the co-matchmaker, the Prince of Positivity. He's your best friend and my best friend, Mr. Alex Cayley. Hello, kind sir. How are you? My best friend, I'm doing great. And I am still high. high off a Saturday show. Normally, that's like high off fumes because we're like, we're, we're up and recording the show just hours like after, after a Saturday night show has ended.
Starting point is 00:01:57 But now I'm like high and refreshed, high and excited and looking forward to the, I'm always looking forward to the show, Mike, and working with you. But I'm like really excited to talk about this show and read out our brilliant listener suggestions. Yes, there are a lot of them. So bear with us towards the second half of the show. But let's just jump right into this thing. And let's talk about Derek Brunson because he looked great. He dominates. He submits Darantil in the third round.
Starting point is 00:02:25 He's now won five in a row. He's tearing it up. And in the contextual sense, he has absolutely done enough to earn a title shot. In fact, I will strongly argue he is more deserving of a title shot than Marvin Vittory was when he got the title shot. Robert Whitaker is next. Brunson could easily wait for a title shot. shot. He could be a backup. He could be a replacement fighter for that fight, or he could go ahead and just take another fight. So where does Derek Brunson go from another dominant win?
Starting point is 00:02:55 I'll be shocked if he's not at least slotted in as a reserve for the Adisania Whitaker rematch, whenever that happens against not. I know it hasn't been booked yet. We're all thinking early 2022. I'm sure Brunson will be ready by then. I'm sure he's staying in shape. He's aware of the possibility. I know we said on another show recently that fighters shouldn't take reserve opportunities, but I mean, And I think they should if they're only if they're guaranteed show money and win money. If Brunson gets that guarantee, I know that's not going to happen. I know that's not how the UFC works. I think they might get their show money usually because they show up and they weigh in.
Starting point is 00:03:26 So that's like the bare minimum. You should also get your win money. I want that to be a policy in the UFC going forward. And if that's the case, Brunson 100% be ready for that spot. It just, he's definitely earned that. But for me, if he can wait, I want to see him wait. This is my ideal situation that Adasania and Whitaker happens in Jam. you were February the latest and then and then we you know maybe Brunson can get in there
Starting point is 00:03:51 I guess it would be May probably May or April which seems like a long time but if he can wait that long that's how I would do it. He deserved a tell the shot he shouldn't have to fight anyone else. Yeah I mean I think he's absolutely unequivocally in the driver's seat for the next in line spot behind Whitaker. It's Adasania Whitaker Brunson then cannoneer in my eyes and if I'm Derek Brunson, like you said, there's nothing more you need to do. Your next fight should be for the belt and you hope that Robert Whitaker
Starting point is 00:04:22 doesn't beat Israel Adisania because then there's going to be a trilogy fight, yada, yada, yada. Cannon Air needs Brunson to solidify a title shot. Brunson does not need Cannon Air to solidify his in my eyes. But for the sake
Starting point is 00:04:38 of check the tapes and all that, the UFC will probably make the fight between Brunson and Cannon Air, possibly put it on the same card as Adasanya Whitaker. So that's my pick. I think they will end up doing Brunson versus Canada Air, although I think it is a tremendous disservice
Starting point is 00:04:54 to Derek Brunson to have to take that fight, but I think he's going to, like the UFC has typically done in the past, his back's going to get put against the wall, and he's going to have no choice but to say yes to fighting Jared Cannonair. And he'll probably beat Jared Cannonair and get an extra paycheck and make it even more
Starting point is 00:05:10 obvious that he deserves the title shot. But that's what I think is it happens. And then we removed Jared Cannonier from the equation. I guess he would also still theoretically be one fight away. I guess Cannoneer is always in the pocket. It's always like, well, he could lose to Brunson, then get a big knockout in his next fight, and they could still slot him in as a fresh challenger for Adesania, assuming Adesania still has the belt by then, which is not guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:05:31 So I understand that, yeah. I think Cannoneer, he's in that top five at least. So he's always really only one big win away. But, man, I like not throwing these guys who seem like they're both deserving of title shots. against one another. Even though I agree, I think that's what will happen. That's just not what I want to happen. Um, gosh, I don't know. Yeah. And yeah, and if for some reason they book that fight and for some reason, Whitaker can't get into the country or something happens and he can't fight, you just take Brunson out of that fight. Canaan Air gets a show money. Brunson fights for
Starting point is 00:06:04 the title. I mean, like, let me tell you something. If Carla Asparza and Derek Brunson are not fighting, do not get the chance to fight for a UC title within the next year. I am not going to do anything because it's my job to cover MMA. But I will be very upset. Okay, I will do nothing. I might write an angry tweet about it. That's, yeah, Dana, if you're listening, I'm going to write an angry tweet about this. If I, I don't not see Derek Brunson or, and two angry tweets maybe.
Starting point is 00:06:30 And then I will continue to watch MMA and continue to, to, uh, to write about the UFC and, you know, inadvertently promote it. But I'll be upset, but I won't like it, Mike. Yeah. And Carla not getting a title shot is much more egregious than Derek Brunson not getting a title shot. Much more. Go down as one of the worst. Honestly, if she doesn't get one of eventually, that's going down like another shot at it.
Starting point is 00:06:51 That's going to be one of the worst snubs, I think, in the UFC history. I know people, I know people like, oh, it's Carlos Sparza. It's like, she deserves it. I'm not saying she's like a, a level star. But you could not deserve another shot of the title more than Carlos Spraiser right now. It's ridiculous. Yeah. And what's even more wild about that situation is I heard an interview with
Starting point is 00:07:09 Mackenzie Dern with our good friend and fellow Canadian James Lynch. And she said that before she took the Marina Houdriguez fight, she was offered Carla Sparza. That's insane. That is insane. Good on Carla for not taking that fight. Shake my head. Yes. Speaking of shaking your head, a lot of people were shaking their heads after Darren Till's
Starting point is 00:07:32 performance, he needs to try to get back in there, A.K., as soon as possible. And there is a fight in November, and I took a lot of heat for the. this, but I'm sticking by it. There's a fight in November at UFC 268 coming up between Sean Strickland and Luke Rockhold. I think the winner of that fight should get the Till fight. I understand that Till's on a bit of a Schneide right now, but there's still so much value with the Till name. It is a big deal to fight and beat Darren Till right now. And outside of the champion, Robert Whitaker, and maybe Paul Costa, maybe, Till's name has more kick than any other name in the 185 Pond Division in the top 10 right now.
Starting point is 00:08:09 It means more to beat Darren Till than it means to beat Marvin Vittoria right now. It just does in the eyes of the casual fans and in the eyes of the UFC. So I think whoever wins that fight fights Darren Till, then you shuffle up the deck a little bit. They beat Till. You got a new guy in that like five or six individual mix that seemed to have been there for so long. So that's what I'm going with. I don't think you agree with that. What are you going to go with?
Starting point is 00:08:35 I like Till and Kevin Hollins. I know Kevin Hollins fighting Caldakis on October 2nd. I think win or lose. I think Kevin Holland is the match up for him. I think it's a more winnable fight than Strickland and Rockhole, because I think both those guys are good. Yeah, both those guys are. I guess any three of these names we just mentioned,
Starting point is 00:08:54 I'm trying to think would Till be favored. He'd be favored over Holland. I don't think he'd be favored over Strickland, do you? No, I don't think so. Rockhold, it would depend if he beat Strickland at how he looked. If he picked up, obviously, a crazy-ass first-round finish, of Strickland, then I think he would enter the favorite, as a favorite against Till, if it was like a decision,
Starting point is 00:09:15 lackless decision, something like that, or even a come from behind win, like Strickland dominates him for two rounds, and then somehow Rock Hulk gets like a late submission or something like that. Even that, I think Till might still, maybe before I'm closer to even. I don't think either got me a big favorite there.
Starting point is 00:09:31 But I like the Holland matchup. Obviously the buildup, the way they could talk it up. I'm wanting Till to take a little bit of step back, not too far. I think Holland's pretty much consensus top 15 guy, but just a little bit of a step back against another person who's not really close to a title fight, who's sort of rebuilding their own, their own case for potentially, you know, getting that spot someday. So I'm into the Kevin Holland thing. Again, win or lose versus Doc. Though I'm sure Docis, he would love to fight Darren Till if he beat Holland.
Starting point is 00:09:58 But I think the Holland matchup just makes sense for him until right now. Yeah, I mean, I like the matchup because, and I know Darren Till would probably like the matchup because he's probably not going to get taken down that fight. and Kevin Holland can like it because he's probably not going to get taken down that fight either. So it makes sense. I just feel, I don't know, I just feel Till is going to have to fight inside the top 10 at least one more time just because of the name and the eyeballs that he brings to the table. It'll be a main event. That's just where he's at. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I don't think he's a top 10 middleweight. I mean, he is in my rankings because he beat Gaston. So by the nature of like he just took Gaston's spot. But I get it. Some people have probably also dropped Gasolm out of their top 10. So I still have Gasolam in there. I still have Till in there. I would not blame people if Gaslim, if they had newer or maybe some fresher people that had passed both those guys.
Starting point is 00:10:47 But for me, it's like when you're in a top 10 spot, it's hard to, for me, it's hard to lose it. Unless, again, someone just beats you and takes it. So again, until Till or Gaslam lose to someone outside the top 10, they kind of hold on to that spot. But again, for me, I think they're like eight and nine or nine and ten in my rankings. And I don't blame anyone who would have them in the 11 to 15 range. at this point. But I think they're both still top 15. So, but yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I want to see him, Till, I want to see Till kind of fight someone a little bit more where he'd be really favored, even though he was almost two to one against Brunson, which is absurd. I wish I bet on fights because I would have bet the house on Derek Brunson. Workday knows there are two kinds of people in business, backward thinkers and forward thinkers. And when you're a forward thinker, you need an AI platform that thinks like you do. to evolve with your organization, Workday reimagines how you manage your people, money, and agents for long-term success, bringing all your most valuable resources onto one powerful platform so you can add value even faster. Workday, moving business forever forward.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Let us head to Tom Aspinall. This is as legit of a heavyweight prospect as we have seen in quite some time in the UFC. He's young, he's skilled, he's talented, he's smart between the years, and he just, he gets it, AK. He's in no rush to get to where he expects to go. He stopped Sergei Spivak in just over two minutes. He made it look easy. Where does he go from another impressive win? He said, just give him, he said, he's number 13, the UFC rankings.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I believe he's number 13 in the NBA fighting global rankings as well, coincidentally. So I agree, bump him up whoever's ahead of them. So I have, I think, like Augusta Sakai and Blago, Ivanov in front of him. I think Sakai is a couple of spots higher. So I'm skipping over, Blagoi. and go into Augusta Sakai. Pretty simple for me. Another fight, I think Aspinall at this point would be like probably at least minus 250
Starting point is 00:12:44 favorite that maybe not too much higher because Sakai is good. Sakai's tough. But yeah, Aspinall has the right idea. Keep giving me tough opponents. But guys that I could definitely finish if I'm on my game, I think that's Sakai fits that to a T. Even if you want a decision over Sakai, again, very, very tough opponent. I still think it would be impressive.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And after that, then we're talking top 10. Yeah. I'm just going to give the guy what he wants. He wants Blagoi. He's ranked a spot above him. And what a story that would be if he just beats the guy above him every single time on the way up to a title shot. That works perfectly in my eyes, especially if we can get Aspinall and Blagoi in the Octagon before the end of the year, that would be ideal. I think Aspenol just keep him busy, keep him active if he can do it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So I'll side with Mr. Aspinall on this one and go with Blagoe, but we'll see what happens. But A.K. Alex Marono has won two straight. He's won three out of four. He wins a unanimous decision against David Zawad on Saturday. There's something in the water in Texas right now. We saw Ricky Tertios getting a big win, then getting his black belt from Alex Morono and the guys over in Houston. And then Morono bounces back a week later and gets a win in a big spot. He's moving up the ladder, AK, I'm going for it.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I want to see Alex Marano versus Matt Brown. The Great White versus the Immortal. Book it. What say you? Yeah. Oh, God, that fight would be so sick. There's a lot of Marano fights for it. You know, he's been around. Excuse me, that's you had to clear my throat there.
Starting point is 00:14:12 There's been a lot of guys who, I'm surprised, Marano has fought. He's been around for, like, long enough that you would think he would have gotten one of these more veteran names. I think he has the habit of taking short notice fights as he did. He was this replacement here against the water, right? So Wada was supposed to fight Surgia Kandosco. And so he kind of took this short notice, which is good. It's a paycheck. It's obviously a fight that he saw was winnable.
Starting point is 00:14:37 He was right. He got himself a win bonus as well. So at this, yeah, I do want to see him start angling for fights that will help his reputation. I think you're right. Matt Brown's in that spot. The last time Marano fought, I wanted him to fight Balam Muhammad. I'm going to stick with that. I still think that that's a possibility.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I still think that's in his site. So not changing my plan there. Give him a top 15 guy. And let's see how it goes. I saw a wide range of options for Murano in our listener suggestions, which again, kind of shows you how much he's, respected, but also how difficult this is to kind of place him at
Starting point is 00:15:07 Walterweight right now. Is he just a KG veteran who's going to win fights against guys like Zawada and beat other veterans like Don Soroni? Is he someone who could be a top 10 guy, you know, just outside kind of contendorship? So I think that I like the Matt Brown fight, but I'll go
Starting point is 00:15:23 at Balal. I do want to test could he be a dark horse to someday compete for a U.S. title? I don't think so. If he beat Bilal Muhammad, it would change my thinking a lot. If the fighter and the physical being of Alex Murano can catch up with the mindset of Alex Morano, he could fight for a title.
Starting point is 00:15:44 But I don't know. I mean, sometimes just the, there's levels to the game. This is no disrespect to Alex Morano. Just the top of the wealth of the weight division is just so, so good. I just, I don't know if he's quite there yet. But mindset-wise, he's one of the smartest guys in the company. interviewing him is like it's like going to school it's incredible so we'll see what happens i i love
Starting point is 00:16:06 the matt brown fight i if he gets belal that's a fun fight too the pressure both those guys bring to the table would be a lot of fun good stylistic matchup but okay we always talk about some of the the nicknames we give guys that are just out of nowhere like motivated connor and sea level cane we got thailand's calil roundtree again on saturday this man is a killer when that version of him shows up It was the same guy who lit up Eric Anders at UFC 236. That man went in there to hurt somebody on Saturday. And he unfortunately hurt Modestis Poccascus in a bleak kick finish of the former Cage Warriors light heavyweight champion. It was nasty.
Starting point is 00:16:46 It was ferocious. It was cerebral. And Khalil Roundtree back in the winter circle. What might be next? For the 31-year-old powerhouse, when I saw that he was 31 years old, I couldn't believe it. he was like 39 or 40 just just because of who he is yeah because he talked about retirement like as of like 18 months ago or like two years ago he talked about retirement so yeah he's he's young he's a young guy 31 he's not he's not old at all well uh look his kickboxing is clearly
Starting point is 00:17:16 coming around like we said that's one of the nastiest strikes can i do a little referendum on the oblique kick again mike i know anyone who listened to the post fight show you've already heard me i won't go on too long you've already heard me kind of defend the oblique kick but i did see a lot a lot of the listener suggestions talking about ran trees fight with stuff like they had to mention oh that strikes disgusting and that strike is like should be illegal I don't like it but I don't find it more offensive than a guy bouncing another guy's head off of off of the canvas with like ground and pound I don't find it more disgusting than a jumping knee to the skull that like leave someone like a Frankie Edgar or or Ben Ascran limp
Starting point is 00:17:55 like limp on the ground. Why is that like why is that celebrated? And then we have a problem with the with the leg injury. It's a different optic for sure. We're not as used to it. We're used to seeing guys get knocked out. Anyone who came home from boxing has obviously seen hundreds of brutal knockouts, you know. So when we see like a leg injury like that, that's something we associate more with other sports like like the football, America football, or basketball. And it's nasty. I go out of my way to avoid leg injuries. And so I'm sorry, I'm part of the problem as well. I go my way to avoid leg injuries, but I'll watch 50 knockouts. UFC's 50 best knockouts.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I'll run right through it. I'll be eating popcorn. If someone made a video like UFC's five worst leg injuries, hell no, I'm not watching that video. So the optics of it are different. But I also accept that, again, if we're okay with one, guys, brain damage is just as serious as ligament damage. Doctors treat it differently, so I understand.
Starting point is 00:18:50 You get to see the guys get back into action sooner after a knockout. It's going to be like two months later, they get back in action, torn ligaments in the leg, broken bones, you're out nine months, year, plus rehab. So from a fan standpoint, it sucks. But from a competitive standpoint, honestly, guys, if we're just talking about what's dangerous and what's not, it is not more dangerous and more career-threatening than a knockout. A lot of careers have been ended my knockouts. You just don't hear about it because guys get knocked out and just never fight again.
Starting point is 00:19:16 We don't say they were out because of the knockout, but I mean, the knockout probably didn't help things. So I'm not a doctor. if someone wants to break us down and say, oh, no, well, these oblique kick injuries are definitely worse, then I'll happily admit I'm wrong. But I just want people to think about it for a second. Are you okay with brain injury? Because if so, you might want to rethink if you are, some sort of outrage against obliate kicks. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Dustin Jacoby. Yeah, that's a fine fight. I'm sorry, I use my matchup time, but I think it explains itself. So just Dustin Jacoby. Yeah, this is one of those situations where, and we find these on. these fight night cards often. There's really no wrong answer here, but I'm going to deep cut the heck out of this thing,
Starting point is 00:20:00 A.K., are you ready for this? Azamat Mirzokhanov is the answer. He just improved a 10-0, just got a contract on the contender series, and he's a guy who's really good. He signed with the UFC before, then he got popped by Usada, now he's back in.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I think that would be a very good test for both guys. It'd be an intriguing stand-up battle. I know it would be Merzikonov's official Octagon debut, but he's been in there with legit guys. I mean, he knocked out Andre Muniz with a punch in less than a minute, a few years back. That's what I'm going, my best friend. And I think Merzikonov's got a crazy story.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I think he has, like, it could be wrong, so maybe our listeners can correct me on this. I think he has like a master's degree in, like, combat sports or something like that, like in his country. It's the guy's story is insane. And I think his ability to strike, his ability to counter, his ability to defend ferociousness makes this a really interesting fight in my eyes. So I think this is a good test for both guys.
Starting point is 00:21:04 That's what I'm going with. Yeah. Look, I mean, Roundtree has a lot more UFC experience. But frankly, he is kind of, he does kind of hover around the bottom of the light heavyweight rankings. Because he just hasn't put together that run. Like I would love to see Roundtree fight a top 10, top 50. top 15 guy. He has not put together a run that's made me say,
Starting point is 00:21:23 oh, yeah, he should get this big jump up in competition. Because, you know, he has those weird losses to, like, March in Prachnia, the guy who he should have, like, smashed him. That was a weird, disappointing loss. And then he's just never really strung together more than a couple of wins. But we know, like I said, he pieced up Eric Anders. Bukascus win was huge. Go Kansaki, he smoked him a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:21:44 So, yeah, there's really no wrong matchups for him. Like you said, you could go more veteran. You can give him a contender. series guy. Like you said, I knew you were going to go contender series, Mike. But either way, I'll say whether it's, I'm sorry, what's, my guy's name again? It is Azamot Mirzokhanov. I remember the first, Asimov. If it's Merzacanov or is Jacoby, good luck openly kicking these guys. I'll tell you that right now. They're not getting hit by that crap.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yeah, I forget who I picked for Chikobi. I think I might have given a top 15 guy. I don't remember, but I gave him a match of those pretty darn close. Oh, and the last. Oh, the another show. Yeah, I think maybe this last year or two before, but I... Oh, maybe I did too. I should check that. Check the tapes. But let us move to the biggest needle mover of this card,
Starting point is 00:22:29 Patty Pimbley, the man who delivered the goods. He backed up his mouth. He got tested and was absolutely rocked in this fight. No matter what he says, there were scousers, and we don't get knocked out. The dude was very close to being stopped by Luigi Vendermini. But he battled through it, and he in turn knocks out Luigi Vendermini in the first round. I'm very interested.
Starting point is 00:22:49 to see where you and the listeners went with this one, AK. I haven't even looked at my DMs yet, but me, I'm going with someone that's like a top 40-ish, 45 guy. I don't want to push him too fast. Somebody with a little bit of a name, somebody who has some Octagon experience, someone who will play the game with Patty, and someone who will not be intimidated,
Starting point is 00:23:12 one iota about the fanfare this guy receives, and also a guy who has been known to derail up-and-coming phenoms. It's Kamelworthy, AK, Pimblit versus Worthy. Let's do it in December. UFC 29, done and done. Your thoughts. So good. So good.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yeah, I think I saw maybe one or two people suggest that. This is an awesome matchup. There's so many great ways you can go with Pimblit. We, I don't want to say I told you so because I wasn't one of like the earliest people on the Pimlin bandwagon. But our site did do it has done a lot of Patty Pimlet coverage. As of others, I shouldn't even say us. We've done it. Name my site, like M.A.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Junkie. I'm sure. Yes, Pians even mentioned him before. there's a reason for it. I think I'm sorry, I'm in a very defensive mood today as you can see, but in a happy way. But this is because I acknowledge our listeners are intelligent and I acknowledge their concerns. I like to respond to them. And people are like, why are we cover Patty Pinman?
Starting point is 00:24:03 It's like, this guy gets a response. Of all these fighters, not in the UFC, this guy gets, he really gets a response. There are people who know about him. He's a legitimate homegrown star over in Liverpool, over in England. So he has his huge following. and could not have had a better debut. I even like that he faced adversity. I even think him having to come back from adversity helped him
Starting point is 00:24:24 because it made Benjamini look tough, which Benjamini is tough, by the way. I thought it was going to go to a decision. I picked the fight Pimbleau by decision. I thought it would be a very, very difficult fight for Pimblit. And it was just not in the way I expected. So fans got to see a great side of it. Cut a good promo after.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I could not be, personality-wise, I don't know if I love the guy, but I could not be more enthused about him as a prospect and a potential star for the UFC right now. The hype is very real. So I'll go with a hat tip to our boy, Damon Martin, who tweeted about this. I know a bunch of people mentioned it, but I saw him mention it first. Why not rematch him with Julian Arosa to make up for a Cage Warriors fight that they had in November 2016, which many, many, many people thought Erosa won. Pimbled got the decision, maybe a little
Starting point is 00:25:07 home cooking there. So let's write that wrong. Erosa, of course, was victorious as well on Saturday in a catchweight bout. But I don't think he'd mind going back. up to 155 for a fight with Pimbley. I think he'd really enjoy that. He'd definitely like to get that one back. Does the UFC want to throw him in there with someone like a Rosalie yet? I don't know. But like I said, there's not a lot of easy fights for Pimbley at 155.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Again, I don't even think Benjamini was one. So we got to give him a tough opponent. I like the Cage Warrior storyline. So let's go, the second worst nickname in all of MMA, Juicy J. Now, let us head to the wild card round, where we select one fighter we have not match made for yet, whether. They lost on the main card. They won or lost on the prelims.
Starting point is 00:25:51 We're going to do it right now. So Mr. AK, lead us off. Wild card pick coming out of UFC Vegas 36. Shoutouts to Wales. I got to go Bantam weights. I got to go Jack Shore. I'm a believer, man. I'm such a believer.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Workman-like performance against Ludwig Sheldinian. And I mean that in a good way. I mean in a good way, short notice opponent. Got to take care of business. Showed off a lot of the stuff that has people so excited about him. He's 15 and 0 now. Crisp striking, really strong, fundamental grappling.
Starting point is 00:26:24 He just needs the right opponents now. I said, look, I want to see him top 20, so I'm going right outside the top of Dean. Some people might have him in the top of Dean. And I like this guy a lot too, but I think we got to against bantamate. At some point, you've got to put fun fighters against each other. Ricky Simone. Give me Jack Shore, Ricky Simone. I think that's a great, great, great
Starting point is 00:26:42 test for him. Win or lose, I think Shore will learn a lot from it. And And I think it's a nice fight for Ricky because he could take a lot of momentum away from a 15 and 0 guy. So love that fight. Hopefully that would be made. Yes. I knew you were going Jack Shore. So I, of course, being your best friend, also went with Jack Shore.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And I thought we're going to have the same thing. I think of you went a different way. I just couldn't. I just couldn't. And I don't know if this is going to be a popular pick. The way you were taking us on this journey, I thought for sure we were going to pick the same name, but we did not. I just think this fight makes a ton of sense because this name I'm going to throw out there. He's gotten some big opportunities as far in his UFC career.
Starting point is 00:27:24 He's had eight UFC fights. He's five and three. He's lost two straight. But he's also a fighter that has a little bit of a name. He's also in a must-win kind of sink or swim spot right now. I'm talking about Casey Kenny, AK. And I know he didn't compete on Saturday, but I'm bringing him up because I think he should face Jack Shore. Because look at Kenny's resume.
Starting point is 00:27:45 He's fought Ray Boy. Louis Smolka. Marab de Wallis really, that fight sucks for anybody. I don't care what division or who you are. Fighting Marab is awful. Nathaniel Wood, Dominic Cruz, Song Yidong, Manny Bermuda's when that was a thing. But he's on a two-fight skid right now.
Starting point is 00:28:02 He needs a win against a quality up-and-comer and sure needs an interesting test. I think Casey Kenney is that guy. It's a very logical step up towards the top 15. If he beats Casey Kenney, despite being on a two-fight losing streak, He probably gets in the top 15. So it puts him at 16 and 0.
Starting point is 00:28:21 That's where I'm going for the completely underrated and in my eyes, underappreciated Jack Shore. I think if we compiled a list of the top 10 most underappreciated fighters in the UFC, Jack Shore is on that list somewhere, maybe even in the top 5, AK. Carlos Sparza number one. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Derek Brunson number two. It wasn't before this past week. Now that she did not get the title shot, she went from like top 10 to number one. Yeah. You know, I love, I love that matchup. Yeah, I think you're right though. Sure.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah. And I'll say this for Kenny. I still, like, I still see the potential of a top 10 guy in him. I really do. So it's like that's a matchup that serves two purposes. Like I wouldn't expect Shore to walk over him. I bet Shore would be favored at this point simply because undefeated versus guy in a two fight losing streak.
Starting point is 00:29:11 But nothing crazy, like minus 150, maybe a little bit higher than that, but I'm not two to one. So I do think Shore would be favored. And yeah, it would be a big, big win for Kenny because we really, I think we want to know sooner rather than later. Is Kenny a top 10 guy? The talent is there? Again, is he able to put it together? Is he able to do so in such an insanely deep division?
Starting point is 00:29:32 And should he lose to Shore? I don't think he'd get released through straight loss to be tough. But at least we could sort of recalibrate our expectations of him for now. Agreed. Casey Kenny on the scale, the last couple of fights. It's been a little frightening. Not an easy cut to 135, which is kind of surprising since he fought at 125 not that long ago. So, yeah, I mean, you can't go wrong with Jack Shore, but I thought about Ricky Simone.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I'm still kind of holding out hope. Maybe the UFC goes the Simone O'Malley route. But who knows? A lot of options at 135. It's just such a good division. It's so deep. It's so loaded. But sure, against any of those guys would make all the sense in the world.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Do we have a Check the tapes Oh God, we have so many Okay Okay Mike I don't know if you have the time I'll read a bunch Can you check
Starting point is 00:30:21 Your DMs for Brandon Nunez Who's telling me Who told me Earlier this week That he called for Cheyenne Bay's Loma Luke Bunmi
Starting point is 00:30:29 So this is Brandon Nune I guess this would have been somewhat recent So Because that would have been Within the last month Right
Starting point is 00:30:34 So while you're looking at that I'll read out Some of these others Barry O'Reilly Let me see what Barry said here So Barry O'Reilly definitely gets a point for
Starting point is 00:30:44 Claudio Poyas Chris Gritzmacher that's happened on December 4th so full point, full point Barry Barry also said he wants a point for Aspinall Oh yes yes So he said
Starting point is 00:30:58 He originally called for Aspinall versus Sergei Spivak Which of course we just got on Saturday But technically, you know It wasn't really the original matchup Mike let me get your input on this real quick do you think that Barry O'Reilly should get a point for Aspinall versus Spivak when it was
Starting point is 00:31:18 you know of course a last second replacement half a point at best I thought you know that's that's something I actually thought about like I was thinking about that I'm like a lot of people picked Spivag versus Aspenol I was clearly not on that on that train but yeah why not okay so how well a lot of people picked it so Barry let's share that point with some of the So a tenth of a point, I think, or however many. Let's take a point, split it up amongst all the Aspinall spitback. If you picked Aspinall spitback, come to the front desk and claim your share of a point. But, Barry, you do get a full point for Poyas Scritzmacker.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Excellent work there. Austin Deschamp and John Ray, both liked Nina Nunez versus Amanda Lemos. That's happening December 18th. Gentlemen, half a point, split that, please. I will be splitting a points into thirds with Matt Bradbury and Robert Miller. We all liked Macy Barber versus Montana Del Marosa, U.S.C. 269, December 11th. And then, again, more points scatterings for listeners who had Kennedy and Zuchuku versus Dong Jong, October 16th, Raphael, Fizziv, Brad Vardel, December 4th.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And, of course, all of us wanted Charles Olivera and Dustin Fourier, which looks like it's going down, December 11th, UFC 269. And extra credit to Marcus McGehy. I'll give him a full point as well he picked both the ends of Chuku Jung and Barber de la Rosa matchup so well done Marcus Mike were you able to find Brandon's
Starting point is 00:32:48 He gets a point I found it Bays versus Loma July 31st 1129 p.m. Eastern Standard Time He messes me a long time ago so he's been waiting at least like a week I think since like last week he is called for it so
Starting point is 00:33:01 oh yes because I forgot to check he wanted me to check on like two episodes ago so yes Brandon you get a full point So we're giving out points for everyone this week. Well done, listeners. Well done. You guys are on top of all these matchups, and they have some good ones this week.
Starting point is 00:33:14 So I expect we'll be giving me out some more points soon, Mike. Yes. No, Mike checks. No, smart Alex. I don't see any of those. No, everyone's pretty cordial. I think they're just happy that you're back. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:25 All right. Well, you know what? Well, not only will Brandon Nunez get a point. We're going to the piece. By the go ahead and give the disclaimer before we start reading these out. Again, guys, we're probably going to, we like to mention mostly winners, but of course there's good matches for losers will bring it up or if someone from the main event so you see a lot of till here.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Scattergories rule, guys, I personally will kind of put consensus picks to the side and try and only focus on ones that really stood out, really unique ones. So if I don't mention you're saying it specifically, don't worry, I probably saw it. Fighter could already book, guys, this happens all the time. If they're booked, you should mention it if you know. Otherwise, I'm going to assume you didn't know. Other mistakes, wrong weight class. They fought already recently.
Starting point is 00:34:02 You just forgot. Injuries, they could be on the shelf for a long time. They could be released. Guys, keep track of that. And then your pick might just be DoDoo, and we choose not to read it. There you go. Speaking of one of those disclaimers, I'm going to read this out because I'm really curious. Like I said, I haven't seen any of these until right now.
Starting point is 00:34:23 But I'm curious to-I-hop. I hope it's not the Do-Doo disclaimer. It's one with a fire that's already booked, but that doesn't mean it can't happen because he's booked relatively soon. He's booked to the next month. I'm really intrigued about the Patty Pimblit potential matchups. Patty Pimble versus Grant Dawson from our friend, Brandon Nunez. We're going to start up with him.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Grant Dawson getting ready to fight Diego Faheda on October 2nd. So if he loses, maybe you do that, but I do not want to see Patty Pimble in there with a guy like Grant Dawson right now. Just no, no. Slow build. Grant is a very dangerous guy. Maybe someday. A couple more wins. We can start talking about that, but no, we can't do that.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Roundtree versus Ulberg. Don't mind that. Asmodal Sakai, Till versus Uriah Hall. and then Brunson versus Canaanere. I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of those. So if I see that again, I probably won't read it again. Patty Pimilla versus Jamie Malarkey. A lot of Patty Pimlet love.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Poppy underscore Bryant. Molly McCann versus Miranda Maverick, AK. Yeah, Eminem on Eminem, hashtag Eminem on Eminem, something like that. I'll work that out. Yeah, yeah. Patty the Batty versus, I know I mentioned Malarkey, but Malarkey is getting ready to fight Devante Smith, so maybe the winner of that.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Thought about loser of Grant Dawson, CDF, but it's slow roll, correct, Poppy. Roundtree versus Ed Herman, AK. Yeah, I saw that a lot. I'm definitely down for it. It was not the number one listener suggestion I saw. I have a feeling it'll come up as you go on.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Marono versus any short notice fight. I just leaving the options open. That's his mentality. Yeah, I mean, if you're asking, yeah, as you're asking what Marano will do, probably just take another short notice. Another Aspatol versus Sakai, or the loser of Chris Stalkis versus Shemiel Abdurahimov.
Starting point is 00:36:03 So we could go with that. Owen Carroll. Mark Andre Barriel versus Alessio DiSherico. Okay, yeah, I think there's some concern. I don't know if Shrico should be fine. I was trying to think if he might get released. Hopefully not. I wouldn't mind seeing that fight.
Starting point is 00:36:19 But they're kind of somewhat trending in opposite directions. Yeah, good matchup. Julian Arosa versus Lorone Murphy feels that with the win, Erosa should get the Lorone Murphy fight since Jordan was supposed to get it originally. I like that matchup. It's a good test for Lorone. Jack Shore versus. Cody Stamen.
Starting point is 00:36:34 That's a fine matchup as well. Molly McCann versus JJ Aldrich, who I don't believe is booked, because you just want to fight. That's the most popular one I saw for McCann. I also think that's the one that makes the most sense. If I had matched up McCann,
Starting point is 00:36:49 I say this now because, of course, I'm stealing from the listeners. Aldrich would have been, I think, the pick. Oh, boy. We'll end with that one. This is one that I saw in social media a bunch of times. Cleo Roundtree versus William Knight. Oh, that's the big one.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I got so many of those. Yeah, that was the roundtree versus Herman was number two, roundtree versus Knight number one. That's the one listeners want to see. I think it'd be awesome. There has to be like an amazing height disparity between the two, right? Am I crazy? Is William Knight taller than I think he is?
Starting point is 00:37:17 He's not that tall. No, I've got to check this out. I'll keep going back. All right. Alex Oro versus Jake Matthews. Here's an interesting one. Patty Pimblet versus Tony Ferguson, AK. Come on.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I actually didn't see anything super extreme in my message. So I saw nothing close to that. Juliana Rosa versus Gavin Tucker. Shalho. That's my dog. He likes Julian Rosa versus Gavin Tucker, John Ray. Molly McCann versus the loser of Macy Barber versus Montana de la Rosa. Patty Pimble versus Joachim Silva.
Starting point is 00:37:55 That seems about right. Cleo Roundtree versus Danilo Marquez. Alex Murdo versus Jared Groner. Gooden. I think Marona is a little bit ahead of Jared. Gooden who just got his first UFC win. Darren Till versus Brad Tavaris, AK. Yeah, yeah. That was a sensile one. I'm surprised I didn't go with that. That actually think, again, because since I kept saying, like, I want to see him face someone a little more mid-tier, that's pretty much where Tavares is right now.
Starting point is 00:38:19 So, yeah, I actually almost like that one more than the pick I went with, more than Holland. But, I mean, Holland's certainly the more sellable fight. Jack Shore versus Davy Grant. Yes. I like it. That's fine. English on English crime. Nick Eggley, let's see what we have here.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Aspinall versus... Oh, but I want... Sorry, round tree is six foot one. Let's say six foot one. Night is five foot ten. So not crazy. Like three inches. And similar reach, actually.
Starting point is 00:38:43 So that'd be fun to see. That would be fun to see. Aspidal versus the winner. This is from Nick Eggley. Aspid all versus the winner of Tybora versus Volkov. Marino versus Tim Means. Sure. Nick likes Kahlil versus Dustin Jacoby.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Patty versus Mason Jones. I saw a lot of that. Because, because there was, like, a chance of them crossing paths in Cage Warriors when they were both there. I don't think it was ever booked, but I think there was an element of, like, if this guy wins this fight and this guy wins this fight, they were probably going to get booked. So, yeah, I love that. I think there's a lot of Cage Warriors fans out there who are a little disappointed that they missed out on that originally, and why not do it at the UFC? Nick shouted out Casey as well for his awesome shirts he's always wearing. So there you go, Casey.
Starting point is 00:39:26 You see Casey Liden? Yeah. Great. Sean, our friend Conwizzle 91. Let's see if we have anything new. Roundtree versus Alonzo Menafield. This is not, this is like on the border for me, A.K., let me give you your thoughts on this. Patty Pimblit versus Jim Miller.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I saw that. I saw one of those two. I wonder, who was this? Who said this to you? This is Sean, Conwizzle 91. I got a different person. Yeah, I don't, I, someone, so the person who sent to me, I think, explained it. with like they want to see him brought up slowly.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And I'm like, is that a slow? I get it. Jim Miller's not a contender anymore. I understand that. Is that really considered a slow like roll up? He's so, he's so the kind of guy who would like spoil the Pimblit hype train. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:15 It's a, but at the same time, I mean, Pimlet would be favored. And also a win would move him up the rankings pretty quickly. Like that puts him in like the top 30 if he beats Jim Miller, I think. That's as high as I would go. I wouldn't go any higher than that. Okay, yeah. I don't love it just because of the big gap in UFC experience, but I get it.
Starting point is 00:40:34 To the matchbreakers, that doesn't matter as much, really more to compare overall records. So it's fine. But even then, that will. And then again, who has a record like Jim Miller if we're going to play that card? So, yeah, not my favorite. Not my favorite. Kyle Smith talked about the oblique kick. How long are they going to be allowed? Probably forever. He likes Roundtree versus Kennedy and Chichuku or maybe another one for William Knight.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Patty the batty. Throughout Joe Selecki, I don't like that one. That's a dangerous fight. Jamie Malarkey is fighting Devante Smith. But he also said he wouldn't be mad to see Patty Pimbleau versus Jeremy Stevens. Jeremy Stevens would love that. He would just treat him like a McGregor proxy.
Starting point is 00:41:13 And by the way, people, McGregor and Pimble have almost like nothing in common other than they're both from the UK and, wait, is Northern? Oh, I'm going to scrub the Irish. Other than they're both from Europe and they're both cocky guys. They're fighting stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I saw someone go like, go like, oh, well, I guess I'm not going to want to match Patty Pimbleed up with a grappler. With a grappler. And I'm like, he's a grappler. Patty Pimlet's a grapp. Like, people don't know. He's a grappler. The standup is actually like his weakness. He likes to throw.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Like, he's clearly has power. But like, he's not a striker by any means. So I found that funny that I think because he's getting this kind of McGregor level hype that people assume he's like another McGregor. He's a very, very different fighter. Yes. Kegan Elliott likes Aspinnaaw versus the winner of Shamil versus Dachis. And he suggested Patty Pimel versus. is Otman Azitar.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Sure. Yeah, I don't know. It's a little too soon for that. Drew Hilty, first time submitter. Thank you very much. Welcome, Drew. He likes the Brunson versus Costa Vittori winner. That's a new one.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I didn't see that one. Yeah, yeah, I'm okay with that. I think I saw, yeah, that actually was, I saw at least a couple of people recommend that. Aswadal is kind of booked, kind of hard to book. He suggested Sakai. Pimblit versus Chris Gritzmacher, who might have a fight, but I'm not really sure I couldn't find it
Starting point is 00:42:28 anywhere. Jack Shore versus Hione Barcelos from our friend Drew. All right, we head to Italy, our guy, Francesco. By the way, people, topology, go to topology.
Starting point is 00:42:42 They are the most, they're the best database for having fights that are reported, official, rumored. I don't want to, I don't hear any excuses about it. I couldn't find out if a fighter was booked. All right, that's, no, I don't want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Go to topology. If they don't have it, then it's either not a substantial rumor or the fighter isn't booked. Francesco said Brunson should wait. Aspedal versus Derek Lewis. I saw at least two people recommend that. I'm very much against it.
Starting point is 00:43:13 If it happened, I think it could be cool. Obviously, I'd find a way to rationalize it. It's not what I would book. I wouldn't either. Marono versus Miguel Baezza. Pimbleau versus Austin Hubbard. That's kind of like the range I would like to see. I like that.
Starting point is 00:43:28 I like that. McCann versus Tracy Cortez and Jack Shore versus Songya Dong. I wouldn't mind that fight either. Oh, right, Tracy Cortez. You know what? I almost take back. That's probably why I wouldn't have done the Alders thing. Because I think I'd just like to see them rebook Aldrich and Cortez.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Did Alder's replace Cortez? No, Alder was supposed to fight Corti. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, because that was one of my favorite matchups. Yeah, so I take back the McCann. You know what? Aldrich and McCann or Aldrich Cortez, either one. Another first timer.
Starting point is 00:43:55 This is Moving 21. Thank you, moving. Patty versus Jeremy Stevens And then another Asper al-Sakai Roundtree versus Nchituku Uh Yeah I mean
Starting point is 00:44:06 Two Pimblit versus Stevens You got two Pimbleau versus Stevens Yeah Gosh I don't know All right Dalton Collins We read his response on the show Saying that we were right
Starting point is 00:44:19 About the Darren Till Elbe slash not really knockdown thing Tristan Gordette Our friend Tristan Gordette Oh boy Walter Waite Marona versus Means. Let's go the wildcard. Julian O'Rosa versus Darren Elkins.
Starting point is 00:44:32 That's just an insane fight. Had Elkins facing Skelly at first, but Skelly is facing Mike Trisano on October 9th. Patty Pimlet versus Drew Dover, Tristan Gordet says. And here's his explanation. Yes, Mike, let's throw Patty right into the fire. Dober can't say no because he's on a two-fights kid, and I think the UFC will not slow roll this guy.
Starting point is 00:44:53 They're going to try to capitalize on his star power immediately. Drew Dover, I think that's way too high. I agree they're going to grab a lot of star power. I just don't think that's the way to do it. I agree with the sentiment that he is going to get probably pushed up pretty quickly, just not that far. Not that far by.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Robbie Ryan, checking in from Queensland, Australia. You bloke's, let's move on to the next ones. Tilly-Rae Hall, Aspinall versus the Walt Harris Taitui Vasa winner. Oh, I didn't see that. Okay. Patty Pimel of Marche-Casey. I don't dislike that one that much. I think that's an okay fight if they can make it.
Starting point is 00:45:31 And then, wow, Roundtree versus the winner of Jimmy Crute versus Jamal Hill. I would like to see it. Has that been rebooked officially? I mean, according to social media and those guys, it seems like it got pushed back to October. But I don't know. That was the last I saw. I don't think that's been. I will say again, I am going by topology.
Starting point is 00:45:53 See, I go, I will say it. I'll just look at my Bible. So I don't see it booked yet, but I guess people are talking about it. Yeah, they went back and forth in social media. Jamal Hill was talking about it, about it being re-booked. Our friend Jaron Cuadda, who we, I wouldn't say we called them out last week about how to submit picks. But it was actually more of a learning tool for everybody else who's new to the show, how to submit. Adjutainment.
Starting point is 00:46:16 So he said, thanks for the embarrassing shout out. I'll get my picks in on time next week. He suggests. Aroza versus Vanada or Trisano Shore versus Eudan. I like that. Alex Marano versus Michelle Bejada. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:46:33 People were just thrown out DeMolador's name all over the place. What was it last week? Last week it was they wanted him for someone who had a big Welterweight win. They were like Daniel Rodriguez and I'm like, I don't know guys. Guys, you've got to put a little more thought. I love Michelle Pineda.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I love DeMolador. You guys got to put a little more thought into these matchups. I think they're just throwing it up there. Malian Can versus Sejara Eubanks. Don't mind that. Patty Pimelow versus Mike Davis, no way. Mike, speaking of underappreciated fighters, Mike Davis is on that list. He is a dangerous man.
Starting point is 00:47:04 I think the Mason Jones one makes more, who Mike Davis beat, I think the Mason Joan ones makes more sense. Christian Lee agrees, Darren Till versus Kevin Holland. Win or lose. So he's right there with you. Man, it's rough. I still believe until,
Starting point is 00:47:19 I still think he's a contender at 185 or 170. Brunson put the top. pressure on both guys so they can pre-fight bond over that i think this is this from christian lee right this is christianly yep thank you my cousin thank you yes i think they both have similar strengths that would make for a pretty exciting matchup not so much of a step down for till keeps him relevant and in the headlines and probably would be the favor in that fight so man you and your cousin christian are on the same page thank you my cousin thank you and here's an interesting pick for patty pimble at k donald cowboy saroni oh come on listen to this all right what a debut the new cat
Starting point is 00:47:53 Cash cow, the new main man. Got caught with a good punch, but he recovered immediately. I think they should use an established name for his next fight. I think Cowboy makes for the most exciting fight to promote. Cowboy said he wants to return to 155, and he's still on the roster. So that seems like that's still the plan. If it's one last rodeo, make it against a young rising star. I can see the UFC doing it.
Starting point is 00:48:16 That's not what I want to do. That does see like a very UFC thing to do. Absolutely. Patrick Austin will round out with him the quote-unquote impressive wins Darren Till has overall have one thing in common they should be fighting in 165 pound weight class
Starting point is 00:48:36 he lost a gas alone his journeyman status has begun Bronson needs to fight cannon air he won't get a title fight by waiting he'll be waiting forever Sean Strickland will leapfrog him not to mention a finish from Paul Kostom automatically gets him a rematch
Starting point is 00:48:51 simply because it will sell more pay-per-views. He likes Marona versus Pajara. Patty the Baddy versus Terrence McKinney has a fight. Roundtree versus Ed Herman. Tom Asmodal, better learn to manage distance. He'll be safe if they give him Augusta Sakai. But after that, dot, dot, dot. He likes Juliana Rosa versus Herbert Burns.
Starting point is 00:49:09 It's a coin flip if either make weight. And then Patrick Gosser responded this morning, my bad guys, it seems that tequila makes me mouthy and a bit mean. So there you go. Yeah, I had a few people who messes mentioned that they were probably drinking a little more than usual during an earlier evening card. I guess I guess it's a good day. I guess it means most of them are not getting intoxicated during these like 10, 11, 12 UFC cards.
Starting point is 00:49:34 but so good. I'm glad people could enjoy themselves and imbibe. All right. On to you, my friend. All right. All right. Let's see if we can get through this. First of all, yes.
Starting point is 00:49:42 So some of the big picks, Brunson versus Canaanier by far was the biggest recommendation I saw for Brunson. No surprise. Till versus Hall was just above Tilton. versus Holland, but I did see definitely more people saying Till and your Raha'all. I love that matchup. I think it makes a lot of sense. And everyone was Aspen Alsakai.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Yeah, for sure. Marano versus Kraus, that was a big one with a lot of people pointing out, coach versus coach. Let's get these two coaches in there. Denny Kaff specifically mentioning that they're coaches who both have nine and four UFC records. So that's kind of eerie there. Roundtree versus night, like I said, was number one. Herman was second. And then Roundtree versus Mendefield was third.
Starting point is 00:50:18 but I had more than two votes for all of those. So a lot of excitement over a round tree next. The number one Pimblit match, if I saw, Mike, did you mention these in yours? Matt Frivola. I thought about, I didn't see one of those. That was my initial thought, but I felt, I felt like he's a little bit above that right now. I don't know. Apparently that's a thing.
Starting point is 00:50:37 No, no. I think I actually thought that Favola might have been too big of a step up for him. Vervola is tough, man. He's tough. He's lost in, like, bizarre ways. But I think most people who mentioned it said they want to see Pimble to take a big step up. I think they mentioned Frivolta out of respect, not out of like, oh, it's an easy. They're like, no, no, we want to see him step up now.
Starting point is 00:50:56 So they said Domina for Vervola. Other popular picks for him, Clay Gwita and Scotty Hotsaw, Holtsman. McCann versus Aldrich, by far the most popular McCann pick. And then Shore versus Hafele Asun Sao was actually the most popular Jack Shore suggestion I got. And then Kenny and Carla Phelips were both up there as well. And then people really wanted Julian Arosa versus Darry. Aaron Elkins. So I'm totally into that. I think it's, that's awesome. And Arosa versus Casaris was also up there. And Mark Andre, Barrio, the most popular pick, Puna Soriano.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I saw many Barrio versus Soriano picks. And yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So let me go to Twitter first here. We had a Twitter user who goes by Woman of Many Vices, Mike, we tagged both of us, I believe. First time managing to get her picks in. So I'll just read all these out. uh brenton should wait till versus holland asmanol versus sakai pimblit versus moikano chile nirosa versus bryce mitchell mottore and calil roundtree versus alonta mena field uh rosa versus mitchell we just don't know where mitchell is but would that be a good fight for him to come back to you think um i think mitchell should fight a top 10 guy honestly i think he's he's earned that right that win over andre feely has put him in that position where he should fight a top 10 guy so
Starting point is 00:52:12 there's just no reward in fighting julina rosa right now it's a dangerous fight and you don't get much from it you just don't it's just the risk reward factor is not quite there for a guy who's ranked in that crazy division right now yeah yeah the time away i just wonder if the time away he's lost a little bit of his team but then again considering how often we have people asking about him maybe not uh a user called at the highlight and their username is just the emoji of a tiger as first of all was very excited about the ranking show and just
Starting point is 00:52:43 so thank you for listening to that as well this is shoutouts from Morocco Mike we're getting some play in Morocco a lovely place my parents actually recently visited so thank you at the highlight I'll also read these out Brunson Caneer Till Hall
Starting point is 00:52:57 Shore Asun Sao Aspinall v. Blagoi Ivanov and Pimblit versus Gurram Kutlatsi I saw a lot of people actually specifically saying they do not want to see this matchup for Patty
Starting point is 00:53:08 like he's not ready. But our friend the highlight says, when Patty signed to the O-C, Goram challenged him. That's right. I remember this. And Patty responded by saying that Georgians were fake Russians.
Starting point is 00:53:17 So he says there'd be a good fight with a lot of tension. Hopefully that wouldn't get too ugly at the trash talk there, but I get, I do remember this incident now. And then Nathan, L-I-E-Q, I'll shout them out.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Guys, follow them on Twitch, twitch. Twitch. Twitch. Let's give Nathan some support here. Also, first time how they describe it long time listener first time sender innerver so yeah that's a word no send that's a word send that's a word sender sender end so thank you nathan brunson versus cannernere pimbled
Starting point is 00:53:49 hubbard and barrio versus anders all right let's get to some of the regulars here uh so guys i remember i'm not going to read all these if there's a lot of consensus picks but you guys know what you said so just picking out some some interesting ones here uh jerry mcnulty with the brunson versus cost of vittory winner and then till fights the coast of the coast of troy winner and then till fights the of a Tori loser. So I kind of like when people do that, when do a little bit of, there's a matchup coming up, and we can just kind of take the two guys from this card and slot them in somewhere.
Starting point is 00:54:15 So good job there, Jerry. Braden-Oil-Barreau versus Carl Robeson-Makimov winner, Nick Maximov, I think, September 25th. And Danny Capp's coming in with Barrio versus Wellington-Termin, which he says, he is an obvious matchup, it says, Roundtree versus Jacoby. Four Corner Sports, N.Y, just with a few suggestions, but I wanted to point out them saying Aspinall by next year will be top three, Mike, if not competing for the title.
Starting point is 00:54:42 So let's say by next September, Tom Aspinall will be a top three UFC heavyweight. Possible. He'd have to fight like, it would have to be like if Sidial Gahn loses to, well, whoever loses if they do the GON and GONM matchup. And then I think I could definitely see Aspinall within his, no, he feels so far. away from one of those fights though. But it is heavyweight, you know, and he keeps finishing people. And like we said, some people suggested Derek Lewis, right? He beats Derek Lewis.
Starting point is 00:55:15 He's in the top five. And I guess after that, who knows? So like I said, I don't see that matchup happening. But yeah, it wouldn't shock me. I don't think that's a crazy prediction at all. I don't. But it's just, it's about activity. If he fights, you know, if he gets three or four more fights in the next year within the next 12 months,
Starting point is 00:55:34 it's possible. He could definitely be it. top three guy. Barry O'Reilly was one of the people predicting the Pimbleau versus Jones. That's pointing out if he, uh, Mason Jones is fighting Alan Patrick. Alan Patrick? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Am I like Alan Patrick? Yeah, they're rematching. Yes. And, uh, he said, again, pointing out this was teasing cage warriors and it'd be great to get it in the UFC. Stephen Breiter, Barrio versus Tom Breeze. I think people just want me to say Barrio, uh, Shore versus Haoni Barcellos. I made a note to read this because he said,
Starting point is 00:56:06 I would love to see Shore Push get the finish, but a fantastic technical performance and domination. So I want to bump Shore past. Ah, that's right. He doesn't see any need for the Said Nurmagometta, rebooking, just give him Barcellos for the right outside of the top 15 matchup. So good call there, Stephen.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And Pimbleet, bring him along real slow, and hopefully we can get him. He's a David Tamer, who's been out of action for a bit. I assume COVID-19 travel issues really and things like that. But yeah, so if David Tamer were to come back, I don't think they give him Pimblit. He's been away for about a couple of years, but I don't mind that. Michael Perugini wants Barrio versus Kyle Dachas, assuming he loses to Kevin Holland, harsh.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Not a safe assumption, I would say. And how do you feel about Shore versus Song Yadong? Like it. Yeah. I think, again, that's the right range we've kind of discussed, yeah. Ryan Dori, Alex Murano versus Elezu Zelensky. He was supposed to fight Rachmanov. It looks like that fight's been canceled.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I think I think that's supposed to happen in October. So I do think Zelisky is free. So I think that's all right, Ryan. Nate Andrews. I've got to keep this thing to our noise. Nate Andrews, Till versus Strickland Rockhold winner. If he wins, says the talk would be absurd.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Oh, Strickland win, excuse me. The talk would be absurd. Till's ego about fights he'll take is the wild card. This is true. And I think he wants Izzy too bad to take the step back he needs. Yeah, I think that's the most, I think that's the momentum. We've most people have been going in is he's not going to want to take a step back. So by the way, by the way, um, Shafcott versus Zelisky, that was supposed to be take place in
Starting point is 00:57:45 October of last year. Oh, gosh. That was the initial fight before Alex Olivera stepped in for Rockmanos, UFC debut. Okay, okay. That's what sounds so familiar, but okay. Right. Okay, not upcoming. Marano versus Matt Brown who said, great matchup.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Pimblit versus, yeah, this is another, Nate Andrews was the guy who sent me, Pimblit versus Jim Miller. Meatball McCann versus Sabina Mazzo Maria Agapova winner, October 9th, Mike? Step back. Is it a step back for her? I don't know. Like, I just don't. I feel like Sabina Mazo on paper should just run through Agaabova.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Like, am I, I don't know if, I don't think I'm too off base in saying that. Sabina has been, yeah. I'm still a believer in Agapha. I just feel, I don't know. I don't know. Because I don't know how good Sabina is. Like, she's shown flashes of absolutely. brilliance. And then she doesn't. It's just crazy. It's just interesting. And she's not that
Starting point is 00:58:41 active. So maybe like I think Meatball like McCann getting that win was so massive. But it's not like she's won four like three fights in a row. Like that was her first win since the Boston card in October 2019. So yeah, I mean that's that seems to be fine. Like Meatball is at a tough position. 125 is not that. There's not a ton of fighters in that division. There just isn't at this moment. So, yeah, if that's the fight they make, that's the fight they make. And I also want to read Uncommon from Nate. He has a stage direction.
Starting point is 00:59:14 So I hope the mic can pick this up. One second. He says, for the love of God, can someone please give me a Rosa versus Darren Elkins? Did you get the table slapping? I did. That was beautiful. Yes, that was, it's a stage direction to slap table. So people, if you send stage directions, I will.
Starting point is 00:59:33 do my best to accommodate. But yeah, apparently, like I said, that's one of the popular picks, but Nate Andrews was particularly emphatic that this fight needs to happen. Dustin Getko Pimblit versus Jordan Levitt, a little too, a little too safe, I think. And, oh, he's with you, Mike. He said, Roundtree versus Asimat and Versacanov. So there we go. So that is our first possible contender series.
Starting point is 00:59:54 That is, I shouldn't say, on our show, the first ought no contender series matchup of the year. It's already off to a rollicking start, apparently. at ayo it's dad uh shore sure sure he says sure versus ricky tertios no right it doesn't make sense for you i've got rickie hasn't even had like rickie kind of had his ufc debut no you can't do that yet uh roundtree versus camer super fun stand-up fight both guys desperately need to win even this even uh with calil winning uh oh yes i wanted to read that he says he went to middle school with calil roundtree and he said what a true transformation and great story so that's kind of cool and uh till
Starting point is 01:00:31 versus Brad DeVarres. This makes a lot of sense. Brad deserves to step up. Tell needs to step back. Favorable matchup should till win. Hayes Bethard. Marano versus Price Olavera winner, October 2nd. Round Chew versus Maxim Grecian.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Pimbled versus Yoros Medici, Jalen Turner winner, September 25th, maybe. McCann versus Firo and Maeda, Bueno, Silva, winner, also September 25th. So keep it on that card. At Jack Shore, oh, this is a good one, Jack Shore versus Chito Vera, if he loses to Edgar on November 6th, what did Hayes have to say about this? He said, I've lost the message. Either way, I like that.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I don't think that's a bad matchup. You know what I'm going to say something a little crazy right now. I wouldn't mind Jack Shore fighting the winner of that fight either. The winner of, oh, yes, okay. Yes. Oh, here's what I want to say. So this is a potential future point discussion. So this is exactly what Hayes wrote. Chito if Frankie beats him. And if Cheeto wins, Carla Phillips would be a good test. He says, note that this is one person with a contingency. So I should be granted a full point if this comes true. I assume he means Cheeto, if Frankie beats him.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Hayes, you're only getting a point for Cheeto. All right, I'm just going to put that way. You're not getting a point for, I don't try to confuse me with this with this. rules stuff. Yeah, see, now what they're trying to do, see, what they're trying to stage contingencies to earn the philatno point because they know how rare they are, so they're trying to find loopholes within the rule set. I understand in this economy, everyone's trying to get points. I get it. It's tough. It's hard out there. But guys, let's be reasonable. Marcus McGehe calling this the Blonde Brunson edition, aka, I love this, the Simon Phoenix edition. I love it. I love it. Marano versus Jake Matthews, Pimblit versus Hafeel Alvese, Molly McCann
Starting point is 01:02:35 versus Courtney Casey. I like that. And then he said he's feeling frisky, Mike. So he's got a contender series picks. These are just for you again. I'm sorry, I did not watch this, the debut episode of a contender series. A.J. Fletcher versus Orion Koski. He was also Contender Series, right? Last year, right? Yeah. Orion just lost his, yeah, Orion just lost his debut to Phil Roe. memory surgery correctly. It makes sense. Fletcher Koski, is that? Cozy.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Is Fletcher an 85er? I don't know anything about that episode of the damage. Keep going, keep going. I'll read this up. Joe Anderson Brito versus T.J. Brown. Okay. Asimat Merzacana versus Daniela Marquez. Carlos, these are great names.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I should have watched this. These names are amazing. Carlos Candelario versus the Jeff Molina, Daniel Lacerda, Luzer, October. 23rd and Victor Altamarano versus O'Day Osborne. Yeah, those are fine. Yeah, Fletcher is a 170 year. My apologies. I thought for you to 95 or a second.
Starting point is 01:03:38 So yeah, I like all of those. All right. Well done, Marcus. Well done. And Till versus Jotko, if Jocko beats Serkanab on October 2nd. Yes, guys, I love these pullback fights. Again, we know he's probably going to get another top 10, top 12 guy at X, but I like if people at least, our listeners are trying to help you at UFC matchmakers, all right?
Starting point is 01:03:55 They're trying to help you figure out what to do with Till. as is the UFC report. He says the Shabazian imov winner, November 6th. I like that one, too. Thomas Collins coming in. McCann versus Gene Mazani, Shore versus Ranihani, Hanayya, excuse me, and Tok Gurding Jensen, our man in Denmark.
Starting point is 01:04:13 I just wanted to read some of them that have been before, but he said, Derek Brunson's, he said, I know you said that you're not broke and you can wait, but he says you cannot wait for a title shot. He says, I'm sure he does not think they'll give it to him. So he does want to see Brunson's. versus Vittori Costa winner. Till, he said, my man, step back,
Starting point is 01:04:31 take on Brad Tavares, last chance of this weight. And Tom Aspinon, he says, you're a star, or you will be when you beat your next opponent, Augustosaki. So some good suggestions there. He had some other ones too, but some really good stuff from Toke. Thank you. Liam Perry, Till versus Heinish, yes.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Pimblet versus Kamelworthy. Oh, so money, Mike. So money. Molly McCann versus the Tinini Nish-Ebchenko, K.C. O'Neill winner, October 2, Errosa versus Akim Dawadu. Barrio versus Trevin Giles. And I wanted to read this message from our pal, Brian Cashman, who just says,
Starting point is 01:05:03 Happy Sunday, a.k. and Mike, no, I am not the journal manager of the Yankees. But Mike, imagine growing up in Massachusetts as a Red Sox fan with my name. So he is from your neck of the woods. And his name is Brian Cashman. That's hilarious. So he had some of those just as well, but I just thought that was funny. All right, guys, just a few more to get through here. let's go to Instagram first.
Starting point is 01:05:27 I got a newcomer. Carlos Torres Buckley Cazeres. Want to see Till versus Perry or Till versus Shemayev. Shemayev is fighting Lee, Jinglang, Lee, on, Lee Jingleang, excuse me, on October 30th. And Carlos, you will be ineligible for a point because you did not pick a specific matchup, but I appreciate it either way. I appreciate the suggestion. You are in the books, but you are ineligible for a point. We are harsh here even with first timers.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Matt Bradbury Barrio versus What's his name? Adolfo Valletta Alex Marano versus Francisco Trinaldo How do you think this one?
Starting point is 01:06:02 Dylan Schutz says Pimblet versus Sean Soriano Tough fight I think it's a fine fight The name value Probably won't be Where he wants to be
Starting point is 01:06:12 Oh I like this MMA heads said Why don't give Why don't give? Why don't we give Alex Marano Kevin Leight if he's going to stay at 170, which I guess he has to.
Starting point is 01:06:25 That's, I didn't even think of that one. That makes... It's another tough matchup, though. That's another, like, first round, Kevin Lee win, and then I feel like he just gets, like, pieced up or something in the next two round. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, listen, it makes sense.
Starting point is 01:06:38 I mean, what's the difference between Matt Brown and Kevin Lee right now? Yeah. Michael Connoffrey, Julian Arosa versus Landa Vanada. Landa. Landa is fighting Tucker Lutz on November 13th, but I love the matchup so much that I hope it does. happen. I do love a Rosa versus Vanana. And Shore versus Adrian Yanez? I think Shore's just too far ahead of Adrian right now. Like Adrian's on a nice run. Oh yeah. Okay. Adrian's on a nice run right now.
Starting point is 01:07:03 He's he's on his way there, but sure deserves a guy, sure deserves like a top 15 and 20 guy at worst right now. He's earned it. He's he's got enough wins. Yanez is very close to getting to that same spot. I just, I don't, no, I just, I'd love to see it. I just, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like a high school girlfriend. Like, you might be Mr. Wright, just not Mr. Right now. And that's how I feel about this fight. I got my man, Nevitan, Kuganthanatham, from Markham, Markham's in the house, as always. Roundtree versus Jamal Hill, Marano versus Phil Rowe.
Starting point is 01:07:42 And then he says he wants Roe versus Usman, so I don't know if that's the thing, but I guess he's a big Phil Roe fan. Phil Roe, come on. Phil Roe just won his first fight. Like, and he was getting kind of pieced up by Orion Kosi in that first round. I mean, come on. Alex Morrow just is on his one three out of four. He's like a venture into the sport at this point. Like, the guy's been in the UFC for years.
Starting point is 01:08:05 No, Phil Roe should be fighting another guy. You know what? You throw Phil Row in with Lewis Kosie. Have him defeat the whole family. There you go. Well, look, look, the Kosey Hunter. Well, and neither of that, either way, I appreciate the suggestion. And he did put like a giggling emoji.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Question he has for us. Earlier this year, Nate Diaz is rumored to only have a couple of fights left on his contract. Recently, Connor McGregor claimed to have the same. Should they both hold out to fight each other and have McGregor Diaz 3 promoted by themselves outside of the UFC, possibly the biggest pay-review for MMA, maybe the return of Lobov and men. He said Melendez. I assume he means Chad Mendez on the card. So I guess. No, he means Gilbert.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Team A, teammate type deal. Is he coming back? I don't know. I mean, if they do it outside the UFC, maybe. Okay. All right. Well, that's the, so I guess he's asking, can they wait? Well, you really can't wait out a UFC contract, can you?
Starting point is 01:09:03 That's certainly not a thing, is it? I don't know if it means weighed out the whole contract or just, like, not fight each other until both of their respective contracts are up. I mean, I think those two are, I mean, listen, I think those two are nuts if they don't fight each other in the UFC at this point. Because what they do outside, I mean, maybe, maybe they can make more money promoting it themselves. But then that sort of takes away those Jake Paul type fights that are there like right now. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:35 Like both those, those guys individually fighting Jake Paul is probably more of a moneymaker than those two guys fighting each other, whether it's in the UFC or outside of the UFC. So I think, I think Nate's got maybe two fights left. Conner's got two or three fights left. And you can't even really start making these matchups yet, because Connor, we don't know what's happening with Connor. We don't know when he's going to be back. He's probably going to be back. It could be another year before Connor fights again.
Starting point is 01:10:04 So Nate seems to want to fight Vicente Lucke. At least he's putting that out there on social media. So there's one of the fights. And then if Nate only has two left, his next fight should be against Connor, the trilogy fight, and go from there. So it would happen in the O.C. And by the, you're right.
Starting point is 01:10:18 You're right. It's a great question, though. Sorry, yeah, he obviously means, you're right, the return of Lobov. I was thinking Lobov versus Melendez. That's why I thought he meant, oh, Chad Mendez. Right, he just means because Lobov recently retired and Melinda's been out of for a long time. So, right, right. You put them on the card facing other people.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Okay, so, yes, great question. Thank you, Nevathon. Facing each other. They're not the same weight class. Oh, I guess, oh, Melvin is. Oh, they're 45. Oh, he did end as a one. God.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I'm all out of sorts with this question. Great question. I didn't understand it. That's on me. Thank you, Neva Thin, time for the question. Let's finish up with emails here. Robert Miller, he said, when are you guys going to come out with a weekly
Starting point is 01:11:01 ought-no point rankings for us listeners? I got to see where I rank with the other listeners with all these points. Guys, ot-no points are not for you to compare it to each other. These is not a game. Like these, like I said, these things have value. These are for you to feed your families, put your kids through school.
Starting point is 01:11:16 This is not a game as to who has gotten more correct picks. Please, let's not go there. All right. Let me just throw this out there. Mike, please do it. You and I, and I'm not sitting there saying like we are the, I feel we are very hard workers.
Starting point is 01:11:30 We're very hard workers. We have a lot on our plates. To find extra time, like sometimes doing this show on Sunday, we're doing it on like two hours of sleep. Okay. So there's not a lot of time for us to go outside of this and create a spreadsheet with all of our growing listener base submitting questions about Otno points. So if you want to do this and if the listening community wants to do something of that sort,
Starting point is 01:11:53 what are you doing, Mike? Why don't somebody step up and do it themselves? No. All right? For those who listen to the program every week and really care about the Otno points, we need one person to go out and create the Otno point spreadsheet, like little fantasy Otno. Some fantasy otno.
Starting point is 01:12:12 You know, someone's going to be the commissioner. It ain't going to be you and I. Someone be the commissioner and do it. Mike, this is the internet. You just said it and you just spoke it into existence. Someone is going to do this now. Who's going to do it? That's what I want to see. Who's stepping up?
Starting point is 01:12:24 I would like to make clear. I am not endorsing this. I think our listeners also have a lot of time. Like, sorry, don't have a lot of free time. I think they need to focus on their work or school or families. I am not saying, I'm not saying don't do this because I don't want to shoot down Mike's suggestion. But I just want to say I am not endorsing it. Whoever decides to, if you decide to do it on your own and you,
Starting point is 01:12:46 have time more power to you. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. No one out there feel obligated. Excuse me. No one out there feel obligated to do this. Please. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:54 If this is a thing and people really want this, it's up to you guys to do it. That's all I'm saying. Mike, they're going to want a prize at the end of the year. They're going to want some sort of trophy. You get a shout out. That's it. You get a quarter at no point automatically if you do this. You will be known as.
Starting point is 01:13:12 So generous. See, we're not one of those people like, oh, we're paying you an exposure. No, no, no, you will be compensated. You will be good. And then as the king or queen or some other title of the, you know, whatever year of a hot no. So, gosh, I just know. Why did you do this, Mike?
Starting point is 01:13:28 Why did you do this for our listeners? Robert had a bunch of good suggestions besides that, one of them being a Rosa versus Feeley. I like that. Yes. really like the ranking show intrigued by who the rogue is. If you listen to our other shows, it's not really a secret. I'm not going to just...
Starting point is 01:13:52 You know who the rogue is. Are you kidding me? I've seen a lot of people who don't. I saw a lot of people who mess with me like, who's the rogue renter? And I'm like, if you just listen to the rankings panel, a show and really any of our other shows, we've brought it up before. It's not a secret. I'm not going to throw it out there, but it's not a big secret who the rogue panelist is.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Really, just read the list of names. You guys apply for God. Absolutely. That's it. And Casey also gave us an oar. thing but I like them both so again I've probably no points here but I like the possibility of Pimblet versus Ricky Glenn or Meyerbeck Tysu Maugh so I like the suggestions you know I'm I might give a half point if one of those comes up Zachary left aspin all versus dachas if he beats
Starting point is 01:14:29 abdera Qimov on September 25th and Moreno versus Baezza Miguel Baezza and let's end with ren Odenheimer who kind of just broke down what they should do with the main event here uh okay right with brenson okay uh Brunson versus Cananeer, yes, the most popular pick of this episode probably. But, and I think you might have touched upon this or mentioned it before, Mike. Put it on the Adesania-Wittaker card. Designate Brunson as, I don't know if he's specified Brunson. But one of them should be designated as the number one contender.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Again, I would say Brunson. And then so he's the first alternate option. Then again, if something crazy happens, then Canaaner is the second alternate option. And then if somehow Adesania and Whitaker can't fight, really whoever's remaining of the four guys would then fight for an in like if it was Whitaker and Kenanier or Kennery or Brunson then you would have them fight for an interim title so yes this makes a lot
Starting point is 01:15:23 of sense and and it kind of fulfills what I want to see where the guys who are picked as reserves get a still also have a chance to fight and get a win bonus as well so Rand I like how you broke this down I agree and I do think and he was making a grander point also that the UFC should
Starting point is 01:15:39 just do this more often I understand it's not possible with fighter schedules and you know if you have a big fight like that you need to up like fight night lineups like headliners and things like that so that's one thing getting in the way of them stacking cars like this but in these situations this is what should happen should let's bring it full circle because we can't shut up about should they try and do something similar for no carla shouldn't have to find anyone right no yeah no way carly just gets her title shot but there are other situations where i think the contender lines a little bit closer and you could do that
Starting point is 01:16:12 you know, number one, number two contenders or three and four or whatever are the, you know, sort of just there as unofficial backups or official backups, but also have a fight. Carla should play, and I know Dana White has denied this, but from all accounts, this is very true. Carlos Sparza should be getting the Carlos Condit treatment right now
Starting point is 01:16:32 where the UFC is paying her to step aside for this rematch because she has earned it that much. Okay? Because remember, Condit was the guy they brought in Nick Diaz and then according to multiple reports Ariel Hawani I believe was the first one on this they paid Carlos Condit like step aside money
Starting point is 01:16:52 just so the UFC could book St. Pierre versus Diaz even though Conner was clearly the guy so they should like if I'm Carla I'm not even putting myself in the backup discussion I am calling her manager and being like get me that step aside money and my next
Starting point is 01:17:07 fight is for the title no doubt about it I will wait And if Zhang wins and they do the trilogy fight, I'll wait all you want. Pay me. Give me that step aside money. And then I'm okay with all of this. But she should be compensated for that. And she should not be even offered another fight.
Starting point is 01:17:24 She shouldn't even be offered a backup fight. She should not have to weigh in an MSG. She shouldn't. She should just get paid anyways because she is the rifle contender. She is the rifle challenger for this title, not Zhang Wei. And I get why they're doing this. But Carla, this is an absolute hope. job at its max, AK, and you know this.
Starting point is 01:17:43 We can go another 30 minutes talking about the Carl's. I'm so mad right now. It's ridiculous. But listen, Carla, us in the media, oh, I shouldn't speak for all of us. Mike and me, and I know a lot of our colleagues, we're looking after you. And Carla and your team look after Carla. Take care of Carlins. Please do not throw her in some situation that she doesn't need to be in.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Look after her and make sure she gets that money and gets that tell us shot sooner rather than later. So there we go. guys, the suggestions are amazing every week. I feel like they were like a little more amazing this week, probably because those submitting them were not, again, we're not like us working on like three or four hours of sleep. These early cards are good for everybody. They're good for everybody.
Starting point is 01:18:25 You can reach me, guys, please send all your lovely suggestions and comments and questions to Alexander K. Lee on Twitter at Alexander K.K.K. Lee on Instagram, Alex Dutley at sbnation.com for email. Yes, and the best way to submit yours to me on Instagram DM at M underscore, Heck, JR. We did get a last minute submission from Chris London. A lot of these were mentioned. I'll throw out a couple of these. Rosa versus Fieli, you already said.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Jack Shore, he said rebooked the Nirmagamato fight. So it doesn't want to move on. Pimbleit versus Scott Holtzman. Yeah, yeah, I like that. That's a fine fight. this was this was uh kind of interesting chris london suggests that collo roundtree should have to fight rumble johnson and in parentheses it says punishment for knee stomps oh there you go send it one off to beltor oh god one off to beltor and then bring him back yeah i mean that's gonna be a point of contention
Starting point is 01:19:24 for a little while people if you're okay with people kicking each other in the head you gotta be okay with them kicking each other in the knees i'm sorry that's just that's uh i'm it's definitely a discussion worth having. I'm not saying it's cut and dry, but for me, that's where I'm at with it right now. Well, like you said, there'll be discussions. There'll be people doing research about it and talking about it. And who knows? It may change my opinion. But right now I'm on the side of that stuff's legal. If it gets banned, I'll kind of understand why, but I'm not in favor of banning. Yeah, I mean, it's, and if it does get banned, it's got to take an awful long time for that to happen. Okay. So for those who, I'm pretty sure you're aware at this point, no UFC event
Starting point is 01:20:03 week. No, yes, no card. No card next weekend. They are back on September the 18th. A little earlier start time. It's kind of, it's not the late start. It's not the early start. It's right in the middle. Prelims are scheduled to start at 4 p.m. Eastern next Saturday, or not next Saturday, September 18th. Next Saturday, we get some triller action. As of right now, Vitor Belford versus Abander Holyfield. Now in Florida, we got Anderson Silva versus Titor. It's happening, man. It's not happening. From what, from what I understand. understand, Evander Holyfield has signed his contract. This thing is actually going down.
Starting point is 01:20:38 And there's a good chance that I'm covering this thing. So we will know in the next day or two, we have to because I think all the press conferences and all that craziness start on Wednesday. So I don't know. I'm looking forward to this. I get sent to like the craziest events. I covered BKFC 19 in Tampa. And then I'm going back to Florida potentially to cover this.
Starting point is 01:20:59 But when the UFC returns on September the 18th, as of right. now, A.K., we went from a 2 p.m. Eastern prelim start time for a card that had nine fights to a 4 p.m. Eastern start time that as of right now has 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. 15 fights. 15 fights. What? You're talking about the September 18th card? September 18th. What? Anthony Smith versus Ryan Span is the main event. I like it.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Ewan Kutalaba. versus Devin Clark, the co-made event. Jim Miller is on this card against Nicholas Mota. What? I didn't even know that. We talked about Jim Miller so much this show. I didn't even mention it. Joaquin Buckley is back. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Against Antonio Ojo. I like it. Christos Diagos versus Armand Syruquian. Syracian, yes. Good fight. The rebooking of Mandy Boehm versus Ariani Lipski. Yes. Boehm finally making her usually.
Starting point is 01:22:01 highly anticipated UFC debut. Jou Rang is back, taking on Dakota Bush. One of the most underrated 35ers, who I think could fight for a title someday. Montel Jackson is on this card against Dina Baccarell. Erin Blanchfield's UFC debut is finally happening. She takes on Sarah Alpar. Mike Rodriguez back inside the cage against Tafon and Chukwe.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Impa Kasang and I is back against Carlston Harris. Pani Kianzad. versus Raquel Pennington. Al-Tang-A-Ley-Lie. That should be on them. Kianzad versus Pennington's not on the main card. I don't think they've actually laid it out yet. I guess you don't know with the line-up too.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just kind of whatever order right now. Okay, fair enough. Al-Tang-Haley, who I've found out is, we talked about John Waley, moving to Fight Ready in Arizona. Al-A-Lat-Halee is also at Fight Ready right now. I have found out.
Starting point is 01:22:55 He gets ready to fight Gustavo-Lopez. Tony Gravely versus Nate Mainis and Emily Whitmire. we'll fight Hannah Goldie it says on Tapology it's at 115 I'm told the fight is at 125 so oh okay there you go 15 that's a lot of fights that's a lot of fights I don't know if any of these fights with respect to everyone on the card is jumping out at me I armands through Kian I'm always excited to watch fight actually I do think
Starting point is 01:23:19 that could be a really good matchup for him anything with bantam weights of course like I said Montel Jackson I'm excited to see the debut of Andy Bowl I'm not going to lie that's a good one. Kasanga and I Harris jumping out at me I think is maybe a potential fight at the night
Starting point is 01:23:34 and Pani Pani Kianzaa of Raquel Payton probably isn't going to be a super exciting fight but I do hope that does get put on the main card because those are two
Starting point is 01:23:43 I think top 15 ranked in our rankings so I'd like to see it given a little bit of respect and I think Panic Kanza is on a really nice run so she deserves I think a little more
Starting point is 01:23:53 exposure but I wouldn't be surprised but just ends up staying on the prelims Yeah high stakes for Buckley Ahoyo too both guys really need a win here. So we'll see what happens. That's all going. So if for some reason I end up covering this crazy event next week,
Starting point is 01:24:10 there probably won't be on to the next one next week in any way. If I don't, maybe we'll just do a show and build upon the most underappreciated fighters list. Sure. They'll do something like that. Oh, gosh. Yeah. But that's it. We are putting a bow on UFC Vegas 36.
Starting point is 01:24:27 And thank you for checking out the program, as always. for AK, I am Mike Heck. Always remember, don't take this stuff too seriously. MMA is supposed to be fun and we'll have more fun. Maybe next week. Definitely in two weeks, right here on onto the next one, the podcast. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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