MMA Fighting - On To the Next One | What's Next For Alex Pereira, Merab Dvalishvili After UFC 320?

Episode Date: October 5, 2025

Alex Pereira and Merab Dvalshvili left UFC 320 as world champions following Saturday's pay-per-view event, with Pereira delivering an 80 second knockout to cap off the event. With a lot of questions surrounding the fighting future of "Poatan" at 205 pounds, where does the star fighter go next? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee discuss what's next for Pereira and Ankalaev following their second meeting in Las Vegas. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for Dvalishvili and Cory Sandhagen after a dominant decision win for "The Machine" in the co-main event, Jiri Prochazka following his incredible knockout of Khalil Rountree in the featured bout, Youssef Zalal after his impressive and quick submission of Josh Emmett, along with fellow main card winner Joe Pyfer, and more. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alexander K. Lee: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@AlexanderKLee⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Well, hello there, everybody. Happy Sunday and welcome to a brand new Oh, so live edition of On to the Next One as we're coming off of a very fun, thrilling UFC 320 event last night at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Lots to discuss in the aftermath and the beauty of this show. Lots to discuss from a matchmaking perspective. A lot of interesting things to discuss for the future

of several fighters on this card. I am Ikech. And joining me, as always, he is the co-host, the co-matchmaker, the Prince of Positivity, and Josh, gosh, darn it.

He is my best friend, probably a zombie-like guy on the Sunday morning following a long night, a long week. He is the one and only Alexander K. Lee. A.K., how we doing?

My best friend, did you almost just say Josh Gernett? I sure did. That sounds like a college football quarterback. He's a straight manning. He's the first. He's the start he's the fifth year, uh, quarterback for, uh, the University of Eastern Tennessee

or something that. Josh Gart, Dash Gartes getting some real buzz as a sixth round six round pig. He's got a great arm, you know, he's got some control issues. But, uh, he could be, he could be a, took a flyer on him down the road. Dash Gernet. Um, yeah, no, I'm, I'm okay. I, I, I thought the card is pretty good. Like, I think I'm pretty high off the card for the most part.

I'm just thinking about the main card was strong. It wasn't it's it's a it was a pretty good pretty good card. I don't know if our standards are getting lower like in general for UFC cards, but I thought it was all right. I think if you spent I think if this is one of the let's, you know, we always talk about the the pay-per-view budget. Maybe you only buy six to eight pay-p reviews the year. We're still a lot, but let's say that is.

I think if this was one of those, I think you were very happy. I think you went home happy. Very fun result in the main event. Fun results throughout the night. Results that have implications. Like, you know, you want to see you were there when you saw this fighter pull off this win. Like, it was significant for a lot of fighters' careers.

Could, you know, a lot of these fighters could be fighting for titles either next or within, you can see it realistically within the next year. So good stuff. Prelimbs, again, I thought there were some good storylines on there, too. Not so good for some of the fighters, some of the losing fighters, but I think we're kind of going to get around to that as we talked about the matchmaking. But, yeah, great showing from the UFC. Every time they get Alex, put it out there, I'm telling you, it's just, it's going to be a good time. And also, a guy named Yuri Prochka, also always putting it, bringing fun to literally every card he's on. I'm just going to tell you right now.

I told AK before we went live, on these Sunday mornings after pay-per-views, we're usually working to like five, six in the morning at times, depending on like what our role is. And if you have to wake up and you're like the first person on shift, you only get like 90 minutes of sleep. And then you get to wake up and get ready and try to like get fired up to get through the shift. And for our case, we have to do this show. I told AK moving forward after every pay-per-view on that Sunday. Monday morning if he's the 9 a.m. guy, you have to go back and watch Yuri Pahashka versus

Khalil Roundtree because it'll put you in so much better mood. I've watched that fight now four times. I watched it three times in a row this morning, and I could not be happier. It is just the best. It's such an adventure. It's wild. And we'll talk about Yuri Pajaska. We'll talk about other fighters as well. But let's start, AK, with the man you mentioned. Alex Pereira just said, you know what? I'm just going to beat the shit out of this man and I'm not even going to break a sweat doing it. And that's exactly what he did. He basically threw through some leg kicks. He was very tactical. And then the first like real power punch he threw, Ancolaev was done. He was badly hurt. He was going backwards. Perere dropped him, started dropping those hammers on

him. Then the 12 to 6 elbows. And this fight was over in 80 seconds. And this was about as bad as it can get from Agamon-A-Galif. We'll get there in a second. But now, Al-Lah, Alex Pereira has so many options, AK, it's pretty insane. There is a, we do the post-fight reports after the pay-per-views, and one of the questions is what's next for Alex Pereira? And my answer, and I'll explain my reasons why in the article is, whatever the hell he wants, because he is in that just unique position right now. So what does he want, AK?

What is he going to get? What's next for Alex Pereira? I'm being a little bit boring here. I'm going with a follow-up that we had to a recent way. I don't feel the need to deviate from it. I really actually don't believe it's going to be what happens next. It's just again, I'm sticking with my rules, Mike, rules, rule. And also it's a fight that personally I want to see.

So I would like to see him fight Carlos Oldberg. I would just like to see a nice tail defense. Does Carlos Alberg have anything for Alex Peretta? I don't know. I mean, after what we saw from Poetan on Saturday, it was just like he was his, it was almost like the first Ankylaev lost was a blip on the radar. And that's kind of how like Pareda had been selling it the whole time. time. And I am always like, well, let's, I don't want to, you know, dig too deeply into narratives of

oh, how, you know, this person wasn't fit and whatever, the injuries and things who's dealing with, the norovirus, norovirus. Because I'm like, you know, no fighter goes into the cage, 100%. But, I mean, you look at least two fights now. If you want to see an example of one guy, probably not being close to his best, the first time around, and then being exactly who we always thought he was in the rematch, pretty strong case. So, so yes, as for, as you said, Mike, has all these options. I would just like to see him fight for the title. I know Oldberg, at this point, after that performance, the Pereira winner, I just say, Alberg's going to be like a plus 500 underdog or something like that. And that's okay. But hey, sometimes these guys surprise you.

I still think we're learning a lot about Carlis Alberg. And I don't know, man, maybe he has reached a level where he can really give Padetta stiff test. Callel Roundtree wasn't, remember, he wasn't thought to be a big challenge for Alex Padetta. Well, by the main. mainstream. I think we all, I think most of us in the media thought that it would be a very tricky matchup and it was. Maybe all Berk can do the same thing. Maybe all Berk can do the same thing. So yeah, I'm going to go with a boring pick. But I actually don't think that's what we'll, what we'll see next. No, we're not going to see that next. And I'm sorry, Lazy Bed, you know what we're going to see next. He's going to fight John Jones next. And that's it. John is not going to fight Tom Aspital.

And here's, and I'm going here because this is something that I kind of talked about in the aftermath as well. a lot of the reason I was I mean the anticipation for the rematch built over time like I got a little more excited like the more I sort of dove deep into it and all the potential questions but at the end of the day

what I landed on was like Alex Pereira literally has nothing to lose here if he loses Ankelaif who cares it does not matter he's just going to leave 205 he's going to go to heavyweight if he wins one fight at heavyweight he's going to fight for the heavyweight belt the loss does nothing for Alex Pereira A win is cool, but even then, like, I'm just like, okay, great.

He wins, and now he's just going to leave the division anyways, and now he's going to go conquer something else, because I don't think he even cares to fight Carlos Oldberg. I really don't think he cares. He just, he's like, cool, I got my win back, and now I'm going to go accomplish something else. He's 38. He probably has, like, two or three fights left in him,

and I don't think he's going to waste where he's at right now, the star power that he has. No disrespect to Carlos Oldberg. It's kind of a waste of his time at 38 years of age. If he was like 36, this is two years ago, sure. Let's rifle off all the contenders. But he's got like, he's got to be very picky and choosy with what is next for him. Make that money, son and fighting John his money, even though I think he's going to lose and it's not going to be all that thrilling.

But who knows? Maybe he, maybe he quote unquote boops John Jones and gets the win. Will it happen at the White House? I don't know. I kind of think it will. But yeah, he even said it afterwards. Like I was going to call John Jones. John had a family tragedy.

So he was very respectful. I thought there was a very cool moment. John obviously reacted to what Alex did. This is the fight John has wanted the entire time because this is prize fighter John. He wants nothing to do with Tom Aspinall, everything to do with Alex Pereira because that's the bigger fight right now. I've always thought it was the bigger fights, the more casual appeal fight. And John will probably win. So yeah, I think this is what happens.

Sorry to Carl. Well, I'm not even going to say sorry to Carlson. Yeah, well, we'll get there in a minute. I was going to say, I don't want to spoil one of your. or later picks. But we kind of talked about this last week as well after the Perth event that, like, there is a very logical way for Obert to get a title fight next. It just very likely does not involve Alex Padena.

So we kind of, if anyone listened last week, you guys know where that's going to go. So we'll get there. We'll get there. Yeah. Carl Sleberg's, all of it changed throughout the week. He even spoke to the media before the Uri-Kalil fight. It was like, yeah, I'll find one of those dudes that I have to. He kind of saw the writing on the wall.

Kind of saw the writing on the wall. So, yeah, so many options for Pereira. He literally, he could go to fucking Zufa boxing and fight a boxer with a name right now. And the UFC will let him do it. Oh, my gosh. Instant title fight. Instant title fight. He wins the title.

They're like, oh, three sport, three sports, three combat sport champion. Look at that. Right. We're going to get Pereira versus Susic. Oh, okay. He's going to make it happen. No, I mean, but still, like if Pereira's just like, yeah, I want to go box, to be like, cool, you can go box.

Whatever you want, Alex. You've done. He is like, he could not be in. better position right now with the UFC with how the fans view him he truly could not be in a better spot right now especially in the modern era of the ultimate fighting championship he is he's exactly where every fighter on the roster wants to be right now so congratulations to poiton electric moment gives us something to talk about and as i mentioned earlier holy cow dude magabat ain't alive this could not have gone this could not have gone worse from magabangalive like him

is bad enough. But him putting himself in a position where there is zero chance he fights Alex Pereira ever again is just brutal. And it is no secret that Magabed Anc Goliath was not rushed back into a title fight. I think he had to fight two or three more times after the Janbovich fight. I think he was sort of unfairly painted with the boring brush because I thought that fight was pretty fascinating. And now he's right back, not going to say square one, but he's like square two and a half right now.

He's going to have to run off a streak to get back to a title fight. And I make my pick here with a little bit of a caveat because I don't know if there's a relationship here between these two gentlemen. Osama Mersakot is going to smoke Alexander Rackich at UFC 321. He's just going to wreck him. And in a perfect world, Ankleye versus Mersikonov is the fight I would make. But again, I don't know if they're tight. I don't know if they're friends. I don't know if they train together.

I really don't know. So if all is fair in fighting, when Merzaconda beats Rackich, that's what I would do. If Mersikatov somehow loses to Alexander Rackich, he fights Jamal Hill. And then we go from there. Okay, yeah, I don't know if we really want to call as a friends forever moment. I also pointed to the Rokic Mrizakhanov about as sort of what to do with Ankalyev next. Yeah, I would lean towards it. Like, you know, if Mursikov wins this more interesting thing to do.

I think Rockich can maybe get that fight. weird, Rocket has had such a weird past few years. Has not been successful. But, you know, there's been injuries in there. And him fighting Ankalyev would seem very strange. But also, again, Mike, I think, like, Ankalab, is he on the, like, he's just never getting a title fight again, unless he rattles off, like, six or seven straight wins? Like, we've said this about other-

He's going to have to win at least three fights in a row. Okay. Because we've said this about other fighters before, right? Where, we're like, oh, man, this, like, they have so much to lose because one slip-up when the UFC is just very happy to let them slip their asses all the way back to the back of the contender line. And like, that's so crazy because when you look at everything the Angolaev has done up to this point, what was it, like 12 straight wins. Sorry, well, 14 unbeaten, right, including the no contest and the draw.

You're like, oh, that's a resume. This guy should just be entitled contention for, you know, the rest of his, however many more years he wants to fight. But, you know, we know that's not the case. You know, these things don't happen in a void. He was getting nothing but booze during the week. And not even like intense, oh, I can't wait to see this guy get beaten booze. Like I'm paying money. It was a little bit of like a go-away heat.

And that's just not what you want with your champions. And after Pareda beat him, I mean, it was just unanimous joy across like, across like fans, the people in attendance, fighters on social media. Yerick Prohachka was in tears. He loved it so much. Even us in the media, like, again, we don't like to play favorites. But to say Anka Life has not exactly been, you know, the most fun fighter to write about. or the biggest traffic driver is the case.

So, yeah, it's going to be rough. It's going to be rough. I'm, but I'm going with, yeah, what happens at Oc. 321, probably Mursa Kanov, probably not Rockets, but I still think there's a chance for that. And like you said, Mike, Jamal Hill is out there if he really needs an opponent. Yeah, and I don't know, like, what Jamal Hill's doing right now. I know after the Kalil loss, he was like,

I'm not fighting again until I'm 100% or as close to it as possible. He felt like he felt like he never really took the time off after the, the injury and he fought Alex Pereira and then he got iced by Yuri and then just got kind of run over by Khalil. So yeah, we'll see what happens. I think he's kind of kind of being two five is so top heavy man. Like it is just super top heavy. And Mersakhanov just kind of seems like the only guy that they would maybe want to push.

Like this he's not it's again, it's not like a star potential thing. But I think a lot of people recognize like this guy could be. a real problem. And I just kind of think Angoliath is going to be in a position, like, where the UFC looks at it and just says, man, I wish we had, I mean, who knows? Like Bogd-on Goosecough if he wins another fight, like, maybe they give him Ankeliath. Like, try to build this thing up a little bit. I don't know.

Maybe they chucked Dominic Reyes at him and hope Dominic Reyes can set up the miracle comeback again. I don't know. But Ankylaiq could not be in a worse position right now. And we'll see how he bounces out of it. it. A man that is in a great position right now is Maraud de Walshawirley. He goes out there and just dominates Corey Sanhagen. And I have officially come to the conclusion that the only person that is going to defeat Marab de Walsh Raleigh, the only person that is going to take the belt off of Marab de Walsh willi

himself. It is either going to be in retirement or he's just eventually going to get bored at 135 pounds. He is certainly not bored yet. Although if he wanted to say, I'm moving up to featherweight, I don't think a single person would question it or complain about it. Normally I would be like, oh, come on. He's literally beat everybody. He has beat every single dude in this division outside of Mario Batista. If he beats Umar and Maga Madoff at UFC 321. But even if Mario beats Umar, he ain't getting the next title shot.

I would guess, AK. But I don't know. Rules rule. Meritocracy be maybe praised here. What's next from Marab? I'm going with them. Again, I'm sticking boring. I don't love the Peter Yon.

Fyodorian rematch. I don't love, but I think the narrative of him, like, defending the title in four years is a very cool thing. I was sorry, four years, four times in one year is a very cool thing. I believe he would be the only undisputed UFC champion to ever do that. I'm also believing, you know, oh, rematches the second time around, you know, are rarely like the first, sometimes there. But I would say just as often than not, you get a totally different story. I still think Maraub would handle Jan fairly predictably at the stage of the career. but you don't know five rounds is different for the three rounds they fought first time. Yon himself had a very nice cheeky tweet talking about like, hey, look what happened.

Put it with Fennana and Kalaya. Could be me in Marab. So I like that. I don't know if you have a more creative answer. Phantom Weight is a great division. And like I don't, like I think if Mara is sticking to his plan and just staying around, he will eventually get like some really intriguing fresh challengers. It's just probably not within.

Like I feel like there's an Umar rematch in there unless, you know, depends how it goes, with Mara Batista, but, um, but, but, uh, I'm, I'm going chalk here, Mike. I'm going chalk. I'm going with, uh, the, the, what Maraub wants. Give the champ what he wants. He wants four title defenses in the year. Something the UFC can sell, I guess, for their December pay-per-view. And, uh, yeah, and then we, and we move on.

We look ahead to 2026. The band is like crocheting right now. Yeah. We're just going to let him. No. Because that's just going to happen. Like, Rob's a call for this one for a while. I don't think he's got to get the fourth title defense this year.

I think he's already locked up fighter of the, of the year unless somehow like ilia comes back and like fights armin surruki and knocks him out which is obviously not going to happen at this point since arm in his book so yeah he's got to fight pieter yon someone mentioned like meeting everybody and they mentioned uh your fellow canadian aim and sahabi i'm not putting him in this conversation right now because yes sahabi is fighting chito vera but he's his aim and sahabi is like three wins away from even being in consideration for fighting for the belt it depends what he does he he's he's he's he's He's got a string together, like some chaos or finishes or something.

Like, like, that is three, like, wins that he's kind he's had so far, like that. Dreadful, dreadful, Josie Aldo, quote unquote, win. Oh, God, that's sickening. Hey, I had to think about it. But if he, like, you know, chaos, chaos, Cheater. Well, I mean, if anyone chaos, Cheatererverer, I'm always amazed. If he head kick chaos, Cheatererverer, that'd be freaking crazy. And then gets another, you know, top of Dean guy and his KEO or submission,

then that would accelerate the process. But I think you're right. I think you're being realistic on what you know of Iman Zahabia and how his wins look. Yes. Yes. The conversion rate is three Zahibi victories would be what he needs to get a title shot. Yeah. He's just kind of far away.

Like, it's just what it is, man. And the all the fight was actually pretty fun. Like, it was the most fun Amin Sahabi fight in quite some time. But at the end result, like, I choose. Yeah, I know. Frustrating. Yeah. It just made you hurt.

It just hurt your soul being like, like, how could the UFC do this to Josie Lowe? How could they do this? And I don't even, like, I don't even, if I recall, I don't even think I was that upset with the decision. But I was just like, I don't know, the whole thing just made me feel achy. It's felt so bad. I wanted Jose to win.

It wasn't even like, I would say firmly not a robbery, but I wanted Jose to win so badly. Yeah. And I know Amon's on a nice run right now, but the problem is just no one cares. No one cares. Like, they will go to, they will go to Umar.

They will go to, like, a lot of other people. They'll go back to Sean O'Malley before they go back to Aman's hobby right now. Like, that's just how the UFC operates. They want, they're in the business of, well, actually, once the Paramount deal happens, it doesn't really matter. But, yeah. Speaking of O'Malley. Oh, I see.

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who is the biggest loser at ufc 320 i did not go with this i think a lot of people are going to know where i'm going with this i think it's unequivocally cori sanhagen because he's never fighting for the belt again and this is i i kept saying this from jump street and especially after it was a joy going back and really diving into this fight because i'm like man i kind of feel Corey Sanagan is a chance here. And then I started just researching and diving in and watching like the past 10 to 12 fights of each guy. And I'm just like, you know what? Like, I really think Corey has a shot.

I think he has a shot. Like stylistically, like if he just, if he's just aggressive, if he like moves forward and punches and kicks and it like throws volume, he's got a chance to win. And he did it in the first round. He looked sensational in the first round. I was like, this is the dude who I think is going to hang in there. May not win it, but he's going to give Marab his tough fight. His toughest fight. And then Marab just like, just ethered him in round two.

And Corey never recovered. I actually gave Sandhagen round four. I scored it 4846 for Marab. But yeah, this, it's a 4846 that was not as competitive as the scorecard that I have indicates because Marab just kind of took over. And I'm now convinced that Marab will never lose the belt. So, yes, you mentioned Shot Amali, okay, we're going to go and do Corey Sanhagan versus Sean O'Malley.

However, Sean O'Malley's next fight will not be against Corey Sanhagan. Oh. He will fight somebody else and then win or lose. He will fight Corey Sanhagan afterwards. I see. I want to say something about Corey's performers. I'm seeing a lot of haters. I should say haters.

People may pretty critical in the comments. he did everything almost everything right except for the second round the second round got caught and nearly finished like that was a disaster and you can't ignore that I can't say well if you don't count the second round he did fine no I mean you have to count the second round and that does a huge part of the story but but but I will say for the most part I felt like Corey did everything right like what watch in the later rounds how he kind of gets out of some of those grappling situation he kept doing the same thing he would he would get grabbed he'd be able to get to his feet and then smartly sort of walk over to the cage with Marabang

onto him and just using the, uh, the cage to sort of prevent the takedown. Marab could only do the sort of the fallback, like drag him down thing. Um, and then Cori knew how to counter from there as well. He knew how to sort of scramble out of that situation and get back up. So he was never really held down. He got slammed a lot for sure. Um, Marab is saying that like he, I think he, I think he, he wanted to let him up so he could get whatever break the takedown record, which, which is possible. I needed three takedowns. He, no, he wanted to set a single fight. I think he said, I think he broke a single fight record as well. I think people say, I have to check UFC stats, but I think the unofficially it was like 17 takedowns or something and i think sean shirk i believe had the record before

so i don't know if that's true or not i mean i wouldn't put it past morphe if anyone's capable of like padding their stats like that in a friggin high level championship fight it's him but corey did like so many good things he he uh he made takedowns really difficult he showed incredible balance he was blocking trips but this is all defensive stuff i'm talking about like i think defensively he was great but the problem is when you're on defense the whole time it's it doesn't win fights We always say all the time, the defense doesn't win fights, right? Marab had the biggest moment of the fight in round two.

I don't think he did a ton of damage in the other rounds, but Corey also didn't do a ton of damage to the other rounds. So, yes, the decision was like totally justified. Another great performance from Mara. But I hope people aren't discounting Corey and saying, like, oh, well, this was another routine tele defense for Marab. Like this, Maraub had to work for this man.

Corey's defenses were so good. I loved everything Corey Sanhagan did. But, man, there's just that other level of pressure, of, like, grittiness, cardio, cardio, of course. Yeah, there's that wrestling ability, right? It's such a cheat code. So, man, amazing performance by Morav, too. This is what a great fight.

I'm not as down on Corey's chances, but I agree. He's had an interim title shot. Great fight. You know, it didn't work out. He's now had his undisputed title shot, which was a hard for him to get because he lost so many number of contenders'bouts. So, yeah, we see what happens with O'Malley. You're right.

Not next for Sean, maybe. But if you're Corey, sit and chill, I don't think you need to fight again and just wait for that O'Malley fight to come to you. So there you go. But, yeah, I really enjoyed the co-main event. Marab, 20 takedowns, 20 and 37. 20. 20. 20.

20. A lot of take down. Couldn't keep him down. Couldn't keep him down. Maybe he didn't want to. I don't know, but he couldn't keep him down. I'm giving Corey the credit. I'm not going to just say, oh, Marab let him up.

I'm giving Corey the credit. I think he fought out of a lot of tough situation. Marab landed 243 strikes in the fight. 114 were significant strikes. It's pretty good. Yeah, this is just a classic Marabreux. foreman's like he was thrown hands he was throwing that second row was sick because he has no fear yeah you can throw hand like it's not and listen that striking was not pretty there was i'm not saying it was

effective at times but it was not pretty but you can do that when one you have a really great chin i mean i don't think rob is scared of getting he's been rocked in some fights but i don't think he's ever been rocked so badly that he's like oh ever been snake bitten no he's going in yeah you rocked me whatever i'm coming back in uh and then of course he's not afraid of being taken down he's gonna he's gonna in. He's like, his hips are right there. You want to go for a takedown? Let's go. Let's wrestle. So he's not afraid of that either. So yeah, when you do that, you can just go and swanging and bang and bantamweight style and with no fear. Because yeah, he really, he really, he did strike more than people expected. Like he said he would. Like he said he would. Yeah, that, that flurry,

the knockdown changed everything. I mean, it just changed everything. And no one really saw it coming. And yeah, I thought, I thought we were going to get a barob knockout there. And that would have been friggin sick if that if that's how it went down so yeah corey is is just one of those guys who's going to be on the long list of great really good fighters who are never going to wear your fc gold and and that's okay that's okay one man who has once wore ufc gold and may once again is officially my favorite fighter to watch in the history of the sport his name is jari per hashka i know i don't think i look in justicates he's great and there's so many great fighters i consistently never have more fun watching the sport than watching Yuri Perashka fight.

The smile never leaves my face. I laugh the entire time because it's just so goofy. And it was just an incredible ride for Yuri Perashka. And then he just brutally colds Khalil Roundtree. Like that was a scary-ass knockout. The overhead shot of Khalil with his back on the mat with his face mangled is just, All time shot, man. That was just a bad knockout.

You feel for a guy like Khalil after that. And you already said it up, okay, so I'm just going to go again. URI is about to fight for a UFC belt. He's going to fight Carlos Ulberg, probably for the vacant light heavyweight title. Because I do think Alex is going to vacate and go fight John. And even with Alex being in this sort of unique position of he could do whatever the hell he wants, the one thing I don't think he can do is go fight John. Jones but still hold on to the light heavyweight belt i think they're just like to just

two oh five's trash like let's just get out of here if you beat john then you can go fight for the heavyweight belt so we'll still give you a chance uh yuri versus olberg for the vacant light heavyweight title yeah no problem with that a fight i'd love to see again i i just want to see carlos fight next for gold i just think that's the only thing that's fair if we have any any semblance of meritocracy and it does it is looking more and more like it will be for a vacant title and it will be uh your brachasso so no issue there it's not not not the pick i went with like i said i've kind of got other i had to stick with some other um you know plans that already made i have i went wilds here i won't look let's go let's let's say crazy um

i want to go with some of your more your yurrie praise first that third round that third round is like how we all think we would fight if we were dead we were fighters we were down on the score cards because we're all at home always watching we always go like oh those guys down to clearly down to nothing why doesn't he go out there like a berserker and just start saying and like that's so much easier said than done obviously like it if you're even if you're someone who knows you're losing a decision, I think most fighters, whether they're thinking about or not,

instinctively would rather lose on the cards than rush in and get knocked out. I mean, there's a ton of psychopaths out there who are like, I'm going out my shield every time. But they're few. They're few. Sometimes you're just down, you're down, you know your beat,

and you're just trying to go the distance and just say you did. Say you went three hard rounds. But we all think that fighters should do that. And Yuri actually just did it. He did it. He does it. Completely, he started turning on in round two for sure.

But in round three, he was like, yeah, I'm just going. I'm going to go in there. I'm going to make this guy brawl with me. If he hits me, he hits me. Kaleo's a very dangerous counterpuncher. I think he caught Yuri with some shots and Yuri just did not care. And wore him out, man. He wore he wore Kale down.

Like he made Kale throw bombs with him. And that helped wear him down. And it was just a matter of like, oh, war of attrition, can you keep up with me? And I think we saw that very few people can keep. up with Yudy when those hands are just flying and landing with some accuracy too in those flurries it was crazy until they put Khalil down so that was awesome Mike let's go crazy here let's keep Erie busy because I do want him to get a tell shot I just don't know when that's going to be so let's keep him busy I want him to fight Johnny Walker what what's wrong with you

Johnny Walker's going off a big win I want to see what happened this is my this is my again this is in my senior hum mind this is a reality where I'm saying Alks Perra stays around at 205 which is not going to happen But let's say that happened and he fights Carl's Oberg. Rather than have your prohastical weight, I just think he has to stay busy. So I'm giving them a crazy matchup in China Walker. Just see something stupid to happen. But again, these are not what will happens.

These are, you know, with a scenario that I've sort of, I've sort of boxed myself into here where Alex Padet is supposedly staying at light heavy and not just chasing super fights, which is we know is actually what's going to happen. I thought you were going to do the thing that was going to make Jedbushu so happy. Which one? And you're going to be like, hey, let's keep him busy. Drink his duplicacy moves up to 205. And that's the fight. That, that I would actually be okay with. Like, if it's not, if it's not him fighting for the belt, you want to do Yuri DDP,

I'm in. Sign me the hell up for that. I'm totally okay with that. So, yeah, Uri's the friggin best. I'm telling you, go back and rewatch the fight. You will have an amazing time because it's just so weird. It's just such an adventure. It's such a roller coaster.

And you can probably watch, like, I mean, the clip of Uri's knock. Pretty much all of round three is all over the MA fighting social. It's on the Instagram. It's on YouTube short, so you can check that out. But you can go back to the watch party. We have a timestamp, like the entirety of the Yuri fight. It's the best. It's incredible.

So congratulations to Yuri Phrashka. Now, my good mood kind of goes a little sour for a couple of ways. Let's go to Yusuf Salal. This is the classic good news, bad news. sedario here for me. And I'll explain why. And in a moment, okay, but here's the good. Yusuf Salal goes in there and just runs Josh Emmett over, submits him in like 90 seconds.

And I think what stood out to be the most by this is that if I were to tell you, if I would to play a game, and it's kind of giving it away right now, if we were just like randomly talking, I said, who do you think had a faster finish on Saturday? Yusuf Salal over Josh Emmett or Atiba Gautier over Treston Vines? You would say Attau Gaudier without even blinking. But it is Yusuf Salal. Yusuf Salal got the fastest finish of the night on Saturday. Well, besides Alex Pereira.

But if we're comparing Gaudier, Godier, who was like a minus 2,500 favorite to Yusuf Salal, who was a big favorite, taking on a rank guy who fought for a belt not that long ago, you'd probably say Gotee, and it was Yusuf Salal. gets it done, A.K. So Yusuf Zalal calls for Lorone Murphy after this. Will he get it, AK? Oh, you're shaking your head.

I thought that was terrible because I... It was an awful call. Yes, I was trying to be nice about it. My best friend. Because I think we all know, again, it's not locked in, but it feels like obviously they're saving Lorone for the Volcanowski title. I mean, he's done more than enough.

It's probably not happening this year. It sounds like it's getting bumps to, if they return to Australia in February. Again, nothing official yet. That's just what all the Scuttlebut is about. Volkanowski's kind of mentioned it. So yeah, I don't know what the law is thinking. He's very unlikely going to get that fight. Maybe he can be a backup for that title fight, but I think he has to stay busy. Because I'm a huge, huge, the Loll fan. The dude is so good. His second, he is, he is such a great example of having a ton of talents early on, getting some tough matchups that just didn't

go your way, parting ways of the UFC, rebuilding yourself pretty quickly on the, regional scene. I think he just fought like three times. It just smoked like three people in the regional scene. And then coming back and the matchmaking for instance, excellent. Shout out to the matchmakers and his management for how they've guided his career. Like a couple of few good wins. Then you get veterans, Calvin Cater, Josh Emmett, perfect stuff. Finished with Josh Emmett, it's spectacular. So I do want to keep pushing him towards a title shot. He has, he has that level of talent. He's just not next. It's just not next. He's not going to get in Lauren Murphy's way. There was really only two names that I think makes sense if you want to move them up.

and I went with the higher one, or I think why I would have ranked higher. So I'm going, it was Arnold Allen or Al Jermaine Sterling. Mike, I'm going to go with Aljo. I think Uso Zalaal and Aljo would be interesting. I currently have Aljo, I think,

I believe in my top five at, yeah, because he beat Ortega, right, and kind of a weird, a weird booking. But, yes, that to me has Aljo in my top five. He is fifth in the UFC contender rankings right now. I'll go with that.

I'll go Zalala at Aljo. That's a big name for Zalala if he beats him. And hey, listen, we're looking to keep Aljua in the title picture too, right? He stops. He stops. Yusuf Zalal. You keep that Alexander Volcanovsky and Al Jemate Sterling's quote-unquote super fight alive still. So yeah, let's go with, let's go with Zalal and Aljo. I see, I see Joseph Bosa being like, oh, he's won eight in a row.

But let's like really, what's really break down this eight in a row, shall we? Are you nitpicking my best friend? No, I'm just, I'm putting, I'm setting this up to put my pick into perspective. Okay. Edwin Chavez. Yes. At Sparta 93. I'm sure everybody watched that fight live.

Of course. And then, of course, the highly anticipated fight with Jake Childers. It was a big one. At Sparta Combat League. Yeah. How you go to this next one, Mike? How you do this next one? And then he did the three fights in one night thing where he had a boxing match, a kickboxing match.

and then an MMA fight against a guy, A.K., who had never, ever had an MMA fight. What? He was zero in zero. And Yusuf Salal armed triangle choked him in three minutes and 48 seconds. Shocking. So that's the first three wins. Okay? And then we go to, then he returns to the UFC.

Billy Q, decent win. Billy Q is 100% on the back nine. Jarno Errins. Jack Shore, Goodwin, Calvin Cater, fourth of five straight losses. Perfect timing, by the way, to fight him. And then Josh, Iman, which is like a good win. Like, it's a good win, but it's not like,

holy shit, we have to give this guy a title fight or a number one contender fight. The Lorone Murphy callout made me so mad because there was only, I actually think that there is an outside chance he could get the Lorone Murphy fight. but you don't actually call for it. What you do is you call for Mozar,

you call for the boogeyman, you call for the guy nobody wants to fight, and then you fall in potentially to a Lorone Murphy fight. You don't just say it. Like someone, like the mat, his management team doing a great job matchmaking for him, but he needs to get some like media training on this, like some UFC media training.

Like, Yusel would be like a huge star in PFL. A massive star in PFL. But just not here. This is just not smart. Josh Emmett is a fine win, but he's 40. And he's clearly not great anymore. So what he needs to do is he needs to be right now a guy who is over,

who is here and now in a way. And that's why I'm giving him the same matchup I gave him after the Calvin Kater won. And after the Kada one, this is a direct punishment fight for Yusuf Zulal. And you know what? And for the callout, this is going to be punishment again. He's fighting John Silva. He's fighting John Silva. He goes out there, does that to John Silva.

He's in a number one contender fight next. Without question. This is the fight that he has to fight. He has to fight somebody that is a relevant contender right now. Get a win over that guy. Boom. You're all set. Go fight John Silva.

And I was really pissed he didn't get a bonus last night. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But then I think about the callout and I'm just like, maybe this is the M.A. God's being like, too. If you just call that, Bose are you would have got a bonus?

Like, you might have got the bonus. And I'm not surprised that Joe Piper got a bonus over him. I've been sent on the People's Pre-Fight show with Dennis from Submission Radio. I'm like, Joe Piper can win a 30-27 and he's getting a bonus. Because the UFC just loves him so much. Dana loves him so much that it doesn't matter. Yusuf's law submission was so much more impressive

than what Joe Piper did, and yet Piper gets the bonus and he doesn't. It's absolutely insane. And they gave out an extra performance bonus. Why couldn't they give out one more? Why three instead of four? Like, yeah, give Piper his bonus.

Why couldn't you give Zalala bonus too? What a weird choice. Like, I don't. It was so arbitrary. And I was impressed with Joe. Like, I thought Joe had a good performance. I learned more about Joe Piper in that six minutes and 46 seconds

than I had learned in the, in the entirety of his career. I'm never saying take bonuses away from people. I'm saying if you're going to give extra, why not just go all the way and give more extra? Why didn't Ramaz Ramiz Brahimaj, big upset? Why didn't he get a bonus? I know, dude.

Of all the finishes, of all the finish on this card, and I mean this wholeheartedly, this is not like me hating on Joe or anything like that. This was the least memorable finish the entire card was Joe Pfeiffer's finish. And I was impressed by it. I was impressed by the performance,

but like Brahimaj's was way, cooler. Edmund Shabazzian was way cool. That was a great finish. Daniel Santos was way cooler. I know it was a catchweight, but it wasn't a missed weight situation, so you couldn't give it to Daniel. Goteen just wrecked a dude with one leg kick. Like, he ruined a man's life with one leg kick. Like, I still would have given him a bonus over Piper, even though he's a minus 2,000 favorite. Like, it's just, it's so weird how they do this. This is, this is the performance of the night version of Alonzo Menefield versus Julius Walker. fighting for the night in my opinion like unrelated how early do you have to get up to record the

sub radio show well j Dennis is all with me for the Q and a over the Q&A oh okay okay yeah it's early morning yeah dude it's early morning over there okay it's 4 p.m eastern here oh oh no no no no he jumped on the morning oh my goodness I was we did our bonus predictions and I'm like Joe Piper's getting one I don't care and he does like no you think he's going to get one over these guys I'm like I'm telling you right now if Joe Piper just wins a dominant decision he's getting one because that's how they feel if he gets a finish one trillion percent getting one uh because he's dana's guy beat joe piper contender series let's go yeah i guess we got to talk about i guess we got to talk more about pipe dog yeah again good performance i don't think joe piper

beats a ranked well maybe i think joe could maybe beat marvin vittory i think that would be like i wouldn't shock me if that's like the direction they went to try to get joe into the rankings is that where you went no No. Oh, oh, okay. No, I went way cooler than that. But I turned it to you, A.K. Yeah, I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it. You giving it a Marvin?

No, I'll get Edmund. Oh! Let's do it. Let's do it. Oh, that's good. I'm a believer. I can say I picked Edmund Shabazzian to win a fight for the first time in Sunday. That's right. I picked it. I did too. I picked, even in his past two matches, which are heavily, like, in his favor, supposedly. I picked against us.

I picked against him. I thought I thought Dylan Boodko would wrestle more. He did not wrestle. I thought Andre Bertrosti would be a bit more effective with his grappling, but he wasn't. But that's a credit to Edmund. I'm not taking away from Edmund. Edmund has clearly, clearly improved his takedown defense.

Because Andre Muniz went for a takedown too. And I thought Shabazz defended really well. So this is not just like I'm saying like, oh, well, his opponents have fought dumb. I mean, they fought a little dumb. But give the young men credit. He was so young when we saw him enter the UFC, had a ton of hype, rattling off all this,

incredible first round knockouts. And yeah, ran into several opponents who could exploit a grappling deficiency. It happens. And again, he could have gone one of two ways. He could either just be like, well, I don't want to learn grappling. I'm a striker. I'm just going to go take striking. If I get striking matchups, I'm going to win and chase bonuses. If I don't get striking matchups, whatever, I'm going to lose. He clearly did not take it that way. He clearly has gone into the gym and I said, let's go. Let's drill. Take down defense, take down defense, submission defense, grabbing defense everything and he's looked great i give him so much credit because it is it is really hard i think to uh to motivate yourself you know when you know when you know you're really good at one thing

right you he could have a long 20 fight um ufc career just fighting other strikers right and occasionally losing to grablers but he seems like he's really determined to show he's a complete mixed martial artist i'm very impressed by that um so yeah i'm i'm throwing both guys into the fire i'm throwing pipe for in with a guy who's really hot right now and like i said it's shown a lot of development And I think the UFC also believes in as a future, like top 10 guy in Edvin. And I'm don't admit to the fire because Joe Piper has, you know, bounced back. And that, that disappoint, one disappointing performance with the Hermanson is on a nice little wind streak. It has a lot of hype behind them and still has a lot of the backing from the UFC clearly.

So yeah, just give me that next. Give me that next. I don't think a loss completely derails either guy. And I think it's a great, I'd say a fight night headliner. But it would be a nice fight night headliner. I don't know if he could put on the road, probably the apex. No, no. I was going to go like,

Kansas City or something. No, no, no, you can't do that. Where's he from? Where's Joe Piper from? Joe Piper's from, what, Missouri or something? Billy, baby. If they did that, you know, if they went to Pennsylvania, maybe you could.

Yeah, because Sean Brady shouldn't headline. Joe Piper and the main event. Sean Brady's the opening main card bow while Joe Piper is the made event. I like that. I actually really like that pick. I'm kind of stealing this, but then I realized it was kind of doo-do

during the watch party. There's a fight coming up UFC 322. It is Robocop would have been my pick if he was unbooked, Gregory. That was my first thought, yeah. But Gregory Rodriguez is fighting Roman Coppulov at UFC 322,

which also makes a lot of sense. So the winner of that fight fights Joe Piper next. So there you go. Perfect. Nice piece of piece of piece of thing. Good night for Joe, man. Like, honestly, like, I'm not shitting on him. Like, good for it.

I just don't think he should have got a bonus last night. I really don't. But the performance, like, was good. It was a smart. Him starting out grappling was really shocking, like him shooting for the takedown. And he just knew, like, a boost was just got a tire after a round.

Like, this was actually, like, a good game plan in the end. And I thought for, like, I thought for a second, he was going to get the, just that weird sub at one point where he, I was like, he's got the arm. He's got, like, the neck trapped. There's so much. happening there and good for Joe, man. Gets it done.

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Let's go to the wild card round, AK. This is where things get real interesting. We will select one fighter. We have not matched made for, and we will match bait for them right now. And AK, I assume because there was at least scheduled to be a women's bantam weight fight on the card. Yana Santos gets the win over Macy Chesson. I'm sorry again, Joseph Bosa. But Yana Santos, is that who we went with? No, no. Because technically, Mike, it was a, it ended up as a catch weight bouts.

I will not, I will not feel obligated to do a matchup for the. So do we sit, do we still say that Macy Chesson is like on a four-fight win streak at bantam weight? Technically, yes. I don't like to do that. I've seen people do their record keeping with a lot of these fights where sometimes it's like, oh, I remember Volcanowski for the longest time. I was like, no, not Volcanowski.

Some other fighter was on some long win streak, and it's like, oh, well, we didn't count this fight because their opponent missed weight. And I'm like, well, I mean, it still counts. And in this case, it was basically a missed weight, which is even dumber. So I would not count it. But yes, if you're being really, really technical at bouts

that are officially, you know, contested on flight night at a hundred and 35 pounds. Yes, she has won four straight. Anyway, I don't think the UFC's going to look at it. that way. Fans are certainly not going to look at it that way. So yeah, congrats to Yana though. Yana is now on a, she won three street fights, Misha Tate and, yeah, she's hot. She's hot in the phantomweight division right now. Good for her, man, good performance. It didn't finish super strong. Macy nearly had him some serious trouble at the end. But hey, wins a win. So good for her. No, I'm like, I'm going with Patsy. I can't quit Patsy. Did you go with Patsy?

I did. Okay. What are we doing here? Are we trying to, I don't even know. I, I don't even know. thought you might, but I don't know how we're looking at it now. Are we trying to, are we still believing in him? Are we trying to keep him alive? Are you, have you already relegated him to gatekeeper? Are you throwing him in there with a killer or something? Because I went the, I went the way of like, I went the, if he can't beat this person, then, then we're truly done. Okay. So we're not, okay, I thought for a second, no, no, no, no, we're definitely not friends forever. No, no, no way. I think we, I don't think you went the same way I did. I have not seen Ronnie Yaya in some time.

That's right, everyone. I broke the glass and I'm pulling out Ronnie. He'll be 41 by the time Apache Mixed fights again, which I assume will be like January or February. It'll be 2026 by the time he patchy again. I hope so. Anyway, I hope he doesn't rush back in there. Ronnieahia, very experienced fighter, good fighter.

But theoretically near the end, I thought he was retired, but as far as I know he is still an active fighter, I have to imagine he's just fighting out what's left on his contract. And like, Patchy wasn't even, Like, he wasn't terrible on Saturday. What? I mean, I don't think he was, he had a lot of control time, you know,

and control. He was super bad last night. You guys? I don't know. Like, honestly, dude, I actually think it's better that he lost, like, I think it's better he lost a splitie and that people somehow are like, defending him. Yeah, well, because he was on top. That's all people saw.

Oh, he was on top of a lot. He was in top. He did very little damage. That's, I think, was so frustrating about. This, to me, was actually a really bad scenario for him because I think I was saying pre-show. in the preview show. I thought he could take a loss,

but I'd had to be in a really competitive, like, interesting fight. Now, I think it was competitive. I don't think the fight was that interesting. And I'm not blaming Vicklash. I think Vicklash did what he needs to do to get the win. He was just a little more offensive when he had, when he had positions to, you know,

actually put together something significant. He did. Patchy had a lot of control, but where was the ground and pound? Where were the submission attempts? Like, I think you could score the fight for Pachi. I really do, but I had no problem with McLaugh winning that because I just felt like

one guy was trying to actually finish the fight, one guy was trying to hold on and save his job. And that's, Padchy Mix, what are we doing? That's not where you need to be. You're only, he's only 32. We know he's a good fighter. We know he can finish fights.

So I don't know if being the UFC is messing with his head. I don't know if that awful, awful performance his debut has, you know, affected this one just anywhere he had to fight super safe. But yeah, I'm very concerned. But I'm not giving up. Like I said, he's pretty young. I think he's so talented.

I think we've seen him at his best. I still think he was a once upon time legitimately a top five bantamate. I'll go as far as to say that. So we're going way back here, Mike, way back in the rankings. I don't know where people have Rani Yaya. But let's see what this matchup happens. If he cannot beat Rani Yaya. Because again, Rani Yaya is a very experienced tough fighter.

But he's up there in age. This is the kind of fight that a guy like Patsy should be winning at the stage of his career. If he cannot beat him, then that is it. That is the end of the Apache in the UFC experiment. And I hate to say that because I'm a fan. But so far we've had two fights in the UFC. First one, absolutely dreadful. Second one, better.

No, not better. You thought this was worse than the pit bull fight. A pit bull side, Batista. Yes. Spire is at least like a top bantamweight. Jacob Wicklecks, look, for newer fans who don't understand how the UFC operates, when they bring in a guy that everyone's like, yeah, you need to bring this guy in. And I could pretty much assure you that there was trepidation on the matchmaker side of things.

And they're just like, all right, fine, we'll bring him in. And then he loses to a top bantamweight. Their line of thinking is, okay, how can we present a sinker swim fight against a guy that the hardcore fan base knows, but nobody else does? And that's what they did. And it really broke down the matchup from X's and O perspective. perspective. This was like, this was the Hadiya fight. This was like a guy that Wicklax is fun to some degree, but like he's not a good striker. And Patsy mixed me, Jakub Wicklex looked like

freaking Rob Funt out there. Like that's what he made him look like. And then like he just wanted it more. Pat, like the fact that Wicklax thumped up Patschia on the feet in the first round, like that was honestly the most surprising thing that happened in that fight. I was just like, wow, how is this even happening right now? Whiglax is probably the 47th best bantamweight in the world. Something in that neck of the woods. I haven't actually, like, filled that part out yet. So I thought this is a really bad performance and a really good stylistic matcher for him.

This is why Patchy was almost a minus 400 figure. I know. But there were at least positive outcomes of some of the things mixed did in this fight. Like I said, he got takedowns, he got top of his. He didn't do much with it, but he did. He got takedowns and got top position. The Batista, he did nothing. He did literally nothing for 15 minutes.

There was not one moment in the fight where he did anything good. And I think that the Pautista fight, even given the difference in level of competition, I still think that was way worse. That was also the expectations were higher, right? The expectations, I think were even higher for the Batista fight. This time, we had lowered our expectations significantly. And it was still slightly below those, which is bad. But I'll say the debut was worse still.

You only get one chance to make a first impression, Mike. And that's going to linger forever. That's going to linger for a long time. So here's the thing, A.K., you mentioned if he loses to Ronnie Ayah, the UFC experiment is over. The UFC experiment is already over. It's done. It's done. And what I mean by that is he's not get, they're not going to cut him.

They're not going to just release him from his contract. He's probably got two fights left. But they're going to use patchy mixes, whatever is left of the patchy mix name to get other talent over. So here, here's how the. patchy mix run is going to go. Fight three for patchy mix, he's fighting Malcolm Wellmaker. They're going to feed him Malcolm Wellmaker.

And Malcolm Wellmaker is probably going to win that fight. And then Patchy is going to fight whoever the Joe Pfeiffer Bantamweight is coming off this season of Contender Series, that is who Patchy Mix's fourth UFC fight will be against. And then he will be

done. And then he will go off and fight elsewhere. He will not be resigned. He will go through this contract and they will milk whatever values left out of him. And I feel, even though I'm somewhat vindicated by what we've seen here, and I've always been on the guys, Patsy's not the best man away in the world. Can we stop this? I still feel horrible for him.

Like, what a shitty place to be. He finally gets in there. He's trying to get over. He's trying to become a star. He talks so much shit about Mario Batista and then loses. And then we're irked me the boat. Apache just like, it was funny because like the first statement patchy made was like, yeah, man, not my night.

Congratulations to Mario Batista. And then like eight hours later was like, yeah, man, took the fight on short notice. I dared to be great. And I, you know how much I hate that. See you at the top. See you at the top. And look, he lost a Yakub Wickelax. And I actually wrote an article that is scheduled for 5 p.m. Eastern.

And there's a reason why we haven't released this. okay. Patchy Mix goes on his personal Facebook page and he's walking out of the arena, walking home after the fight. He looks mangled up from the beating he took in this fight. And he's just like, yeah, man, it's kind of hitting me on the way back. I can't be happy winning a split decision, but then be upset when I lose the split decision. Time to go back to the drawing board. Shout out to Wicklacks and his team. I got to get back. better. Great statement makes sense. I can assure you, I've already looked at Patsy Vicks' Instagram stories. He has a great graphic on his Instagram stories from M.A.fiting.com

made by the great Jose Youngs of D.C. saying Patschie won the fight and others saying he won the fight. I have a feeling that there will be a new statement incoming that will be a little more salty than the reflective one that we saw on his Facebook page. That is why we're were waiting to publish that because I have a feeling he's got more to say here. But at the end of the end of day, I do feel bad for him. Like, I do feel bad. And God, man, he should have stayed at freaking PFL. He wasn't fighting.

I've, like, he should have stayed. Well, how can you say such a thing? How can you say such a thing? She's making more money at PFL, I'm sure. Risen is really like his pride. Oh. Oh. Yeah.

What a stop. For Octagon or. or some organization like that. Everyone wants to fight at home, right? He's getting, you know, he's, he's, did him and Tatiana Suarez get married or they're engaged? Like, they're about to get married. I don't think he wants to spend the first few years of his marriage,

you know, jetting back and forth between here in Japan, you know. I saw the smashing machine, Mike. I saw how stressful that is on a relationship, all right. I don't know. There's your little plug, guys, the smashing machine in theaters now. Help it out. Apparently got trounced by Taylor Swift to the box office. It was good to me.

Yeah. Tough spot. Man, this is tough. Jed said Patchy makes his wheel. Brooks and I kind of feel like it's a perfect comparison. And it's crazy because people forget, like, Will Brooks beat Michael Chandler twice in Bell Tour when that really meant something. Like Will Brooks was legitimately viewed as like a top six, top seven lightweight at the time.

I'm pretty sure. It was the same thing. Yeah. It was like, hey, please release me. I want to go to the UFC. And they're like, bet you go to the UFC. And then it did not go well for him. He got a couple of wins, but just never made an impact.

You got one, right? Just one winner. Do you fight Russ? No, not Ross Pearson. Who am I thinking of? What did he beat? Let's go. Let's go. Let's go on a trip down memory lane together with the great ill-will Brooks.

Who the hell? Yeah, Ross Pearson. Well, that was it. Yeah, that was his debut. Oh, that was it. That was it. That was it. That he got stopped by Alex, then got stopped by Charles, and then stopped by Nick Lentz, and it was out.

That was it. Man. Yeah, but that is a very, I would say, is very, very similar. Yeah, for sure. Crazy. Okay. Let's turn it over to the peeps. We do have a couple, we have one super chat.

One minute guitar lessons, gifted one membership. So very, very cool. Let's go to El Gato de Santiago. Hey, guys, how do you handle your friendship? Platonic brohugs and high fives have a great Domingo. I mean, Mike and I have never met in person. Never. No, that's the real trash.

I would give him the biggest hug, bro hug in the world. I will. I see him. And if I would, every time I saw Mike, I would see it. If I was like his neighbor, I love Mike Heck. But we have yet to meet in prison. We will someday. I don't know when, maybe 30 years in the future when we're both retired.

I don't know. But we will meet up sometimes. All right. Fire in your matchmaking takes. We'll go for like another 10 minutes or so. Let's go. Joseph. Alex versus Carlos, Muraab versus John 2, Yuri versus Ankh, Solal versus Sterling.

Goteer versus Pfeer. They will. No. I'm here to tell you, Joseph Boza. That is a fight. that will probably never, ever happen. They will not put Joe Piper in that situation. Mike, we're all high on Gote, obviously,

but he's being, you know, he's being built the right way. He's being given squash matches. He's on, he's on WWF superstars every Saturday, just squashing dudes. He's, he's, what he should be. He's press slamming guys over his head. He's hitting sick back body drops, like, you know, he's doing great.

He's doing power bombing people. So he's great. That's what we want. Who is the, I'm trying to. I'm trying to look. I may I have to throw some names out here. Who is like the highest ranked guy you could reasonably give a tibatio? I'll throw some names out.

Would you give him, uh, Armine Petrosi? That's too high. That you would. Okay. So that's in like, for me, that's in like the 40 to 50 range. Okay. What about, whatever, I'm just going random names here.

Uh, though that's a good one. Petroski? Yes. Really? Okay. So now we're in the, you would nuke Petrosky. Really? Okay.

We're in the 30, 40, 40. range now. I feel like that's as high as I'm willing to go. I mean, would you go to? I think that's as high as I'm willing to. I'm like, I don't know. Yeah, Petroski might be. And I probably have Petroski higher than others.

Maybe that's the issue. Keep going. I don't know, man. This is good, get good fires. If you're like Michael Alexetia, no. One more win, yes. Okay, that's 30. I have Oloxitia 30.

So that's my, okay. So I think we agree. That's like our barrier right now. You would not put him against anyone higher than like the higher 35 range. Maybe someone mentioned it earlier. I don't hate Andre Munez. Oh, man, you think Mouinis is just done? Oh, God, yeah.

He was going to be Izzy. He was going to remember him when he was going to be dizzy. He's been done. Damn, really? You think he just gets smoked? He has so much more experience. How? I don't know.

Go to the edge just needs to touch him once and he wins. One time. He just didn't hit him once and he begins the fire. I have Monez. He's still my top 20. At five, I have him too high. I still have Munez. My top 25.

Probably should not be a top 25 anymore. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. Yeah. I think, yeah, but I like the road. Like, he should be fighting, Goethe should be fighting on every pay-per-view. Yes. That's what they should be doing. He should be fighting on every pay-per-view in squash matches, much like this. Repo Gazi Diaz, if it's possible, for MSG, he should be fighting at least one more time this year.

And I'm not just selfishly saying that for fantasy points, because Azeboe Gaudier was like the best draft pick. I'm so good. I'm so glad I picked him. But it was unfortunate. If he fought Ozzy Diaz, he would have got a bonus yesterday. And that's that. But yeah, he's only 23. So there is no rush.

But I think right now he beats a lot of guys in this division. I don't know. I, who's, hey, what are his actual wins at this point, by the way? Of course, poor Tristan Vine, we just saw Robert Valentin. And I don't know. Like, these are just respectfully. These are punching bags. These are training dummies.

I can't go as high as you. Like I wouldn't have gone higher than you said keep going. I would have stopped at frigging like Petrojan. I'm just curious like where you had guys, but. I don't know. More squad. Two more squash matches, please. Two more like outside the top 50 guys.

I don't ask for much. Let me pull up my ranking. Maybe wait till next, by next summer, assuming he stays really busy, by next summer we give him a top 35 guy. How about that? Petrosky is like a really good. pick yeah yeah i was such a believer in him but i i i am starting to think like he's maybe just not that dude um go goate's so young he's 23 mike he's 23 let's take it easy i don't want him fighting a top

20 guy until a top 25 guy until 20 27 unless he is this true prodigy and like just sort like i said the names he mentioned he gets booked against him and just clears them then fine but let's take it slow two more squashes please how about how about nick I'm decline pretty low. Yeah, that's that sounds right. Yeah. Thank you. Yes, exactly. Nickline's not bad. Cody Brundage. Cody bruntage. He's so sneaky though. Cody's weird. Cody gives people like fit sometimes. I don't know if I like that. I think that's like a, I would take like a plus 900. I feel like a couple of bucks that plus 900 Cody.

Sedrique Dumas. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. I guess. I, yes. I do not have such a drink uh ranked particularly highly so yeah yeah i kind of like the petroski one let's take it easy that would be yeah i'm okay with that i'm okay yeah yeah he's fun 23 great future looks good getting off the bus it's scary dude crazy it's a scary scary man uh gerard alex carlos uh anch yuri marab yon two corey sean ron tree walker two it's a lot Al-Al-Joe, Piper, Canineer. God, they might... Dude, dude, canner might just go out and there

beat Joe Piper. So I don't know if they do that. It's a sneaky. I think they'll be a little more strategic with that. Atiba just go to Dorovich. Not bad. Santos Choi, Jakub Saeed. Oh, I like that.

I like Jakub-Said. That's the right level. Yeah, I do want to see how good Yaka really is. Edmund versus Alexei, Kuhna Ponsi, Farid versus Munoz. Farid versus Munoz. I kind of like the David Martinez

call up by him. That was a great call. I actually thought that I was like, that was perfect. That's one of the things we're talking about where like maybe he doesn't get David Martinez, but he'll get someone in the David Martinez range, and that's where he should be. He'll get Rob Fon. He's going to go forever.

Perfect, right? These bash, I almost made Freed my, my wild card because I think like, and I said before with him and his brother, I know, I know Javis taken a loss, but I think they're both insanely skilled. Like I think I'm a little bit behind now, but I believe I said like in 2025, at least one of them was going to be ranked. And I don't think for Reid will be, unless you fight Skim before the end of the year.

But he's close. He's at least in the top 20, I think, with that win. He's just so, I know people want finishes. Like, you know, when you're not getting finishes, you don't, you just doesn't break through to like the next level of notoriety. But man, he's so solid. Got it. You're talking about a guy. He's, I don't know if he has a specialty.

And again, I think that's holding him back too. But you're talking about someone who's like B plus to A minus in every MM. may relate a skill across the board, man, Frereet is so solid. So, like, I think he's just got to keep going. I am very curious to see who they match him up with next. Because I'm telling him, he's the kind of guy. He's going to go, like, 7 and 0, 8 in O, out of nowhere.

He'll have been, whoa, this guy's, like, been done. Like, just has been racking up wins and getting a top five opponent sometime. End of, end of next year, maybe, end of next year. Yeah, I mean, I get, I think my biggest takeaway was, like, he's very good and very skilled. He's probably not going to fight for a belt. I don't know if he just. just like, I don't know if he has that, like, I need to see him in there with like a wild man who's going to like try to hammer him.

Because Gutierrez, like when he tried to hammer him did pretty good. Like it was pretty good third round that he had. And you saw Basharat slow down a little bit. And Chris Gutierrez is like the quintessential slow starter, but then can kind of get going. I think, I thought one of the safest bets on the entire car was a point spread bet on Chris Gutierrez because there's no way he was going. He was going to 30, 27. in Chris Guineres.

There's just no world where that was happening. So I think he's, I think he's going to be like a solid top 10 dude, but I don't think he's a guy that's got to like fight for a world title or anything. And that's fine. Like he's got to be a tough out for a lot of guys. I think he could. Really?

You'd have a freed, right? Yeah. I think you could. I think he could fight for a world title. But again, the problem is he doesn't have that signature moment. And yet, I'm trying to think of like, what's my favorite freed brush right highlight? Struggling a little bit.

Nothing's really jumping down my mind. So, and that's, that's an issue. That's an issue when you're trying to sell someone as a title contender. So again, he has to kind of take, it's weird to say the Anklea wrote because Ankelai actually had like a lot of knockouts on his way to the like up the ranks. But yes, he's going to have to rack up eight, nine, ten straight victories. Arnold Allen also had the same problem. Maybe Arnold Allen's a better comparison.

We're like, Arnold Allen, great fighter. Just not a lot of finishes. And that matters, unfortunately, when you're, when you're trying to market a champion. If Ricky Simone beats Ioni Barcellos, you got to do it. That's good. That's really good. Yeah. Take, try to get revenge for your brother.

Like, that's just the best. After Ricky, like, colded him. Yeah. So, yeah, that's one. Love it. Love it. Does UFC hate Maga Medegelai more than any other champion after he won the belt? UFC posts the video of Paul subbing him.

And now right after the pay-per-view, they posted the loss to Alex. I don't have to hate him. They have not been, they have had zero interest in helping. This is what we talk about when we say, like, the UFC can't build stars. And also, it's not just. the UFC's fault. Listen, Maguanguin Ankalive is not an electrifying personality. I'm sorry. It's weird because, you know, he's

obviously one of Ali's guys. Ali has a great relationship with the UFC, so you think they'd be able to work out some better promotional strategy. But frankly, I don't think Ali's that great at building up his clients either. I think he has great fighters on his roster. And every now and then someone breaks through and becomes a star. So I think that's

kind of the weird situation Ankaliv is in is like, he's hard to promote and he did not do himself any favors. So I don't know if they hate him. It's just they just kind of frankly treated him like any other fighter, which is, which sucks because he was for a period, they're light heavyweight champion. So kind of bummer. I get assured you, victory cigars are smoked by data, the matchmakers, and Hunter Campbell.

He gained. He's gained. It's weird. It's so weird because like, so when was the first fight? March. March. He gained like no cachet or fame over this stretch. Like his, his profile was not elevated in the slightest.

It's not like, well, he'll always say he was a guy who beat Alex Padetta and he'll have that. No, somehow, like, no one cares. No one. It became, oh, this is why we tried to avoid this bad. And then losing the way he did, like, people are just going to pretend that was their only fight. Like, that first fight is going to get memory holds. Like, he was going to be like, they fought, they fought before. Like, he beat Alex.

Like, this was five years from there. Like, wow, really he beat him? And he really did. Like, he legitimately beat Alex that night. I know Alex was as best. I don't care. That was a legitimate win. But we sort of all kind of agreed, like, let's just not talk about that again.

Let's moving on. How great was that? How great was that Poetan K-O-A? Yeah. Tough scenes. That was it. That's it. I mean, I kept telling everybody, like, you want to know how Dana really felt about

Maga-Banakalai winning the late heavyweight title? Like, he'll go back to the Post-Five Press coverage, be like, yeah, good performance. It was great. But there's a Getty image of Data White holding the belt in the middle of the octagon, about to wrap it around Maca-Bad-Anke-Live's waist. and there's just this look of all right guess we're putting the bell out hip right now

like it's I mean it is captured so perfectly of like what data was really feeling in that moment like fuck this is what's happening right now and again this is all Dana's fault by the way

I just want to make that perfectly clear this is 100% data whites fault that the vast majority of the MMA fateful feel about Magaenaena ain't Goliap the way they feel about Maga and Angolaev because Dana Way went to the post-fire press conference after UFC 282 and said that fight was the most boring piece of shit fight I've ever seen. And it wasn't.

It was not. It was not. Enkoliath was on one leg for three rounds. He buried him. Yeah. And killed him. Absolutely smoked him. Yeah.

Yeah, it was brutal. And he's not boring. Like, go watch his knockouts. Dude is not boring at all. Like the Pereira win was not like the most thrilling fight of all time. But like the Yan fight was like, Jan just chewed that leg up. He's like hobbling along at the end of the day.

So yeah, it's just, it's just wild. And sometimes that's what happens. Like, look at what Mavar Vloyva is doing right now. Dana buried him. Now he's not fighting for a belt.

Like it's crazy how the power this man has over in the sport. But yeah, you best believe shots were flying last night. Dana chugged like 18 first form energy drinks. Like it was a great night in Las Vegas. for the UFC brass. No doubt about it. We'll take a couple more.

Zach, Zalal versus Diego Lopez, not too crazy now? I want to see it. Oh, I want to see it, though. I don't think it's next. I do want to see that fight. Yeah, I do want to see it.

In 2027 when it's not crazy. Oh. That fight is, that fight makes no sense right now. None. Diego Lopez lost a competitive fight to the champion. He's got wins over really good fighters. He almost beat Movesar of Loyah

and a short-noticed UFC debut, and he just beat the holy hell out of the boogeyman of this division. And you want to give Yusuf Salal, Diego Lopez, who honestly, I wouldn't do it. There is a world where the UFC

is in a matchmaker meeting on Tuesday saying, do we give Diego Lopez the rematch already? Do we give it to him? And then do you think McManornezzar's like, you know, what would be a great idea? Let's give him Yusuf Salal when he says,

hot as he could possibly be. You are insane. That fight has zero chance of happening. But again, if he called up Mozar, maybe he gets it. But he's not getting Diego Lopez. Lopez is red hot right now. It's just not happening. I'm sorry.

So yes, you are crazy, but I like your gusto coming back. Yeah, bring it, Zach. Bring it. Pfeiffer versus the Iron Turtle Alaskaroff loser. I don't mind that. I don't even mind the winner of that fight either, if we're being honest. Yep. Gotee versus Dubasi deserves it.

You said it, Mike. Yeah. Wicklax versus Christian Rodriguez. Rodriguez is a featherweight. Is he not? I hope so. We're not doing the Christian Rodriguez going to ban on. Are we?

We've tried that too many times. And plus Christian Rodriguez can't win because Wicklachs has lost fights in his pro career. So, yeah, tough scenes. I would like to see that. It actually be kind of interesting. Could get a little weird and wild. So what else do we got? What else do we got?

Send in your picks, people. You got any picks here? We are ready to evaluate and judge. Oh, yeah. I'm in a buyer, so I'll be a super grump. Take a couple more. Is this going to be it for Emmett, or do you think he'll stay around for a while? He sounded like he had title aspirations in the promo.

Tiddy? What kind of title aspirations did he have? BMF, featherweight title? Oh, Jesus Christ. But he might not want to fight without them thoughts. Josh's title aspirations ended when Yaya Rodriguez tuned his ass up for the interim belt. So that's just kind of where he's at right now. And look, Josh has had a damn good career, honestly.

If you look at when he got into the UFC, took him a long time to get there. I remember Y'I. Favor doing old interviews with Uriah Fabor. And almost every single one of those interviews, like, yeah, the UFC needs to sign Josh Emmett. And he finally got in, almost lost a first. finger in his UFC debut, like just crazy shit. And now 40 years old, like best shape of his life, he's just 40 in a division where it is almost impossible to do well when you're over the age of 35. It's just one of those things, unless you're a freak like Alexander Bolkanovsky,

who can somehow still compete at the top level. I don't know where he goes, honestly. Someone suggested, like, let's do cater, but we just saw that. And I thought Calvin beat him. And in fact, in a weird way, Josh Emmett, like, ended Calvin Cater's career because, and it wasn't even Josh's fault. I think it was the judges in Austin, Texas that night who kind of posed Calvin Cater that night. And Calvin, I don't think he's ever recovered from that from a mental perspective. He just hasn't.

And sure, we could run that one back. But honestly, if Josh is going to stay around, AK, and I wouldn't book this fight because I think you and I nailed it, We were Sympatico after UFC Paris. Do you feed Josh Emmett to Aaron Pico? Like, that's kind of like the only thing that you do here. But look, man, Josh could still crack. He could knock Aaron out. Do you even risk that?

I don't know. So, yeah, Josh is at a wicked weird spot right now. I want to say, someone said, oh, someone's that people were asking about Khalil. I'm like, what do you? I almost messaged you on FightNet and said, Should we do Khalil too? But, you know, we had a lot of names already.

And we generally only do, you know, title fight losers. So we didn't do Khalil. Man, what do we go from here with Kalil? Love, love Khalil. That's a guy who is like, if we said Ankylaev gained nothing from winning the title, that's a guy who, like, fighting valiantly for the title did Kalil Roundtree wonders. Like now. I mean, you could do Khalil versus Ank.

I actually don't hate that. I don't hate it either. It feels like some mixture of, uh, these guys from, sorry. night we'll end up fighting each other um yeah maybe you just do cleland unc goose cough it's not bad you got guys coming up um i i i don't know how they view roundtree because i i wonder if they feel like you know we got that great title fight out of them but we really don't view him as someone that we can build back towards a title shot again so if we can you know put him in like you said fun fights we got goose gov um i was gonna say buccascus they fought already right wasn't that uh there's like

a he he did he destroy buccascus's leg or something am i uh oh Oh my God, yeah. Remember, there's a whole debate on whether or not they should have the oblique kick. Oh, it was a long time ago. Yes. Okay, so I wouldn't run that one back. I don't think you need to. Well, I don't know, but Casas far I would like to.

Yeah, I mean, there's some names coming out. Maybe he fights Zhang Mingyang at some point, not next, but maybe some point. Yeah, I don't know. But people love Khalil. He can really go in a lot of directions like Heavyweight Division. And, yeah, I hope he's making a shitload of money. It's awesome with that. I do like this pick from low-res-dover, Emmett versus Giga.

Yeah, perfect. Perfect timing for it. Yep. I like it. Yeah, people are saying Cleo should probably just sit on the sideline for a bit. I don't mind that either. Take all the time he needs because he's taking a lot of damage in some of these fights. And boy, rest up, Khalil, because one of those guys who just, I think owes us nothing.

owes us, no, he doesn't. Oh, we're going to clean a while. He should get back on the case. Nope. Khalil, if you want it took a year off from fighting. tip my cap to you. I know you're in your relative prime right now

since it's a slight heavyweight. But everybody, you got, you know, rest up and get those focus on getting the biggest paychecks you can when you can. Yeah, Joseph, we already put your picks out there. I think we're good. I think we're good. I think we have done our thing.

I feel good. I feel good. We have UFC Rio next week, AK. You have C. Rio. Oh, yeah. We do. Charles Oliverer versus is Matush Gamrott, the main event. I like it. Let me pull up this card.

God, I, please tell me that we're doing like some early day MMA. It's like four o'clock. Oh, okay. All right. I'm okay with that. Yeah. Let's run down this lineup. Yes, 7 p.m. Eastern main card on ESPN Plus.

Charles Olivera, Batush Gamrott, the main event. Love the co-main event, AK. Could this finally be the time? Yes. All my years, nearly eight years of doing programming on M.A. fighting and outside of it, is this finally the time I get to cash in on the Montel Jackson might be a top five Bandaweight, might be a guy who wins a world title. We're going to find out because he's about to fight Davis and Figurato in the co-main event.

Finally, Montel getting an opportunity. Welterweight contest in the featured about AK, Vicente Lucay versus Joel Alvarez. Good stuff. Great fight. And of course, there is no UFC fight. Night card without heavyweights in the main card. Janada Denise versus Mario Pinto. We got Ricardo Hamos versus Khan Offley.

And we got Lucas Almeida versus Michael Aswell. Of course, that just screams. We've got to throw that on the main card. Although, I will say that fight's going to slap. It's going to be a really good main card opener. Jafel Filio versus Clayton Carpenter. Headlines the prelims. Vitor Petrito versus Thomas Peterson.

we have the highly anticipated UFC debut of Bia Mesquita taking on Arena Alex Siva. We have Lucas Rocha versus Stuart Nickel. How is this not? How is this buried on the prelims, A.K. And if we're not, if we're going to bury it on the prelims, at least make it the first fight of the night so we could watch this along. In heavyweight action, the dream matchup, the brothers of,

bigger starfighters Walter Walker versus Mohamed Ousman it's all going down we have Julia Palaschi versus Carolina Colvo Kovic and Luan Lacerda versus Simon Olivera that is UFC Rio A-K

there are three heavyweight fights on here right because Vito Bertrino moved up last time yeah three heavyweight bouts oh my good and the one ranked heavyweight is buried on the prelims.

Wait, who's ranked? Walter Walker. Mr. He'll hook himself. Yeah, he's about to heal hook. He was too. Okay. He's number 15. Wow, okay.

Damn, high stakes. High stakes. He's 15 of 19 UFC heavyweights. Why? Yeah, why is, why is Janata Denise over him in the lineup? I don't know.

Okay. Because Barra, Pinto's a big finisher. And there's a real chance Walter Walker versus Bozeman gets real funny, I guess, is like the nice way to say it, where we could get a couple of really tired heavyweights, just heavyweighting it all over the place. There's much more of a chance of it happening in this fight than the Mario Pinto fight.

I am very tempted to do a three-fight all heavyweight bouts go to, like, heavyweight over sparlay. I'm going to have to see the odds. Eugh. That would be fun as well. The electricity would be in the air. I may or may not be on onto me. We'll figure that out. We'll have more discussions for us to meet.

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