MMA Fighting - On To the Next One | What's Next For Jack Della Maddalena, Belal Muhammad After UFC 315?

Episode Date: May 11, 2025

Jack Della Maddalena is the new UFC welterweight champion after defeating Belal Muhammad in the main event of UFC 315. It appears he will face lightweight titleholder Islam Makhachev in his first title defense, but where does Muhammad go after his championship reign came to an end? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee discuss where Della Maddalena and Muhammad go following their Fight of the Night battle for the 170-pound title. Additionally, they'll discuss what's next for women's flyweight champ Valentina Shevchenko and Manon Fiorot after their co-main event bout, Aiemann Zahabi following his controversial win over Jose Aldo, along with fellow main card winners Natalia Silva and Benoit Saint Denis, and more following Saturday's pay-per-view event. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alexander K. Lee: ⁠⁠⁠@AlexanderKLee⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When I got a great deal on a great gift at Winners, I started wondering, could I get fabulous gifts for everyone on my list? Like this designer fragrance for my daughter. At just $39.99, how could I resist? This luxurious will throw for my sister. This gold watch for my partner? A wooden puzzle for my niece? Leather gloves for my boss?

Ooh, European chocolate for the crossing guard? At these prices, could I find something for everyone at Winners? Stop wondering. Start gifting. Winners, find fabulous for less. Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first? There, the last one.

Enjoy a Coca-Cola for a pause that refreshes. We're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Hello there, everybody, and welcome to a brand new edition of On to the next one. We are live on this Sunday morning post-UFC 315. I am Mike Heck. my best friend, Alexander K. Lee, we have a brand new UFC welterweight champion. His name is Jack Della, Madelana, Jackie three names, JDM, stuns Belal Muhammad, is the new champ. And now things get real weird and wacky. Chaos ensued just the way AK likes it. A.K., my best friend,

how are you on this Sunday morning? Holy cow, my best friend, my kick. I'm feeling good, man. I'm feeling good. That was that card slightly surpassed expectations. You know, Jed and I, I think, were a little more optimistic about it as far as like, you know, as far as defending that this was a quality card. This was not like some glorified fight. Like, this is what a modern pay-per-view looks like. Take it or leave it. You know, that might be, might not be a compliment, but that is, that is the truth. I don't think there was any reason for people to be so down on a two-title fight card, some intriguing storylines. I think going, going to bulls fights more than worthy challengers

especially with jdm as it turned out uh you know people his his path to uh to a cella shot was certainly like a bit strange you know he's he was not the clear cut number one contender going in but uh fate worked in his favor and here we go we do have a new champion so i loved the main event really there was very few moments in the night where i was just like oh this is a drag like the card it kind of flew by i think it had the right mix of like finishes There was, there's just enough finishes and some pretty compelling, uh, fights that went to a decision. So, um, you know, I'm not, there's some fights which certainly we're not going to remember by Tuesday,

but that's every fight card. Now, if you do any card that's, uh, 12 fights or more, guys, you're not going to remember all 12 fights. I mean, unless you're talking about like one of the greatest cards ever. So deeply satisfied. Hope that everyone, uh, who was at Bell Center felt like they got their money's worth because they certainly saw something. You know, I saw a smattering of booze for like maybe some seconds of some fights, but other than that, this was a memorable one.

I think if you were there, you were happy that you showed up. Yes. Great by watching live. Even better on the rewatch. I rewatched this morning. No distractions. Door shut. No watch party going on.

Because I just wanted to just take it in. I wanted to see, because watching it live, like, I definitely thought the championship rounds were really fun, like incredibly excited. And then on the rewatch, like as a whole, it's just a great fight. It's just a, it's a really fun watch. Having said that, and maybe this is a hot take, I don't know. I scored a 401 JDM on the rewatch. I feel incredibly confident in 401 JDM. I will listen to 4847.

I will listen to 5045 JDM. I have come to the conclusion that if you scored that fight for Balaamaham, you're just wrong. There's just no world he won. And this is not saying Balal was not competitive because he certainly was. But we,

this has been sort of jammed down our throats ever since the rules changed with scoring criteria. That damage is the number one priority. It all comes down to damage. Jadam took damage in the fight, no doubt about it. Every time he hit Bilal Muhammad,

Bilal felt it. Bilal's head turned. He didn't like it. dude was durable and tough no doubt about it but Balal's got a broken orbital now apparently he's got a broken nose

he's probably going to need surgery on his lip like he got womped in there because Jack was hitting him so hard there's just I just don't see a world where Balaw wins this fight I think 5045 JDM is a much more acceptable

scorecard than 4847 Balal but again it was a fun competitive fight and my biggest takeaway from the rewatch, especially as somebody who had a bet on Bala Muhammad with the minus 5.5.5 point spread, Bala Muhammad is going to go back and rewatch that fight. And if his goal was to go in there and change the narrative about how people view his fighting style,

how Dana White reacts to his fights, and turn that into a positive, he accomplished that goal. 100%. Balal was in a super fun fight. Dana White praised him. He put him over in a big way. When Dana does public comments, he didn't go to the presser. He's not going to say, wasn't a barn burner. He's going to say that absolutely was a barn burner.

So success for Balal on that end. But if Bilal Mohammed's goal heading into UFC 315 was, okay, this is going to be the beginning of a long title run. I want to be mentioned with the GSPs, the Uspins, the Matt Hughes, etc. at some point. I am befuddled by his game plan. Truly don't understand it whatsoever. I don't know.

I truly don't know. Him and his team are going to go back and watch that fight and be like, what the frig was I doing? Like this is, and he still fought super competitive, but like if he did bowl all things, especially early in that fight, he probably wins. I just,

I just I don't know what he's thinking, man. I just don't know what he was thinking, but that's, that's just me. Your biggest takeaway from the fight. He scored as many takedowns in 25 minutes as Basel Hafez did in 15 minutes with Jack Deh Adelaidell Madelana a couple of years ago. It was three, three, Basel Hafez had three takedowns and was a surprisingly competitive fight against JDM at the time. And Balaah had three on Saturday night.

Yeah, it was frustrating to watch at times, I think, if you were hoping to see, not even if you were just rooting for Belal, but if you're kind of hoping to see how JDM would deal with, you know, Balal's best skill, the ball's best game plan. Because we saw, we saw Balal put that to perfection against Leon Edwards, right? Now, maybe that was Leon, you know, on and off night. Maybe that was Leon's worst night. So, you know, if you don't want to compare those two fights, I totally understand. but his approach on Saturday just felt so transparent and not in a good way. His first two takedown attempts both happened, I think, almost the exact same time in the first and second round. It almost looked like they said, you know, you want a show up your striking. Let's do that for the first three minutes.

And then around 90 seconds, go for a takedown, go guys, go back, rewatch rounds one and two. It's exactly what happened. Neither time did it work particularly great. And at no point in the fight with any of the takedowns he scored, was he able to do, like, significant damage. So people can check out my score. I know, Mikey mentioned on the post-fight show. I was one of the few 50-45s on MMA Decisions.com. It was just me and my old pal, Danny Sigura, currently it's a M-A junkie.

And I remember when I scored it, I think there's at least, you guys can check the live blogs. There's at least two or three times where I say, well, that round was a toss-up. Oh, that one could have gone either way. So while I'm kind of with you, I'm not very comfortable with 48-47, Balal. you know, it wasn't, it wasn't necessarily a blowout. It wasn't like an indictment of a law if you have it, 50. No.

I think 5045 is still a fair score to both guys. It's just, you know, if you watched it, again, yes. Okay, that, you know, this round could have gone to below. This round could have gone. And that's why 48, 47, I think to a lot of people felt like the right score. I don't think 49, 46, Della Madeline is bad. I don't think 1545 Delam Adelaena is bad. And as much they're criticizing, you know, Muhammad's approach, which is definitely confusing.

All the credit to JDS, man. he shored up some serious take-down defense issues. He was doing things defensively in this fight that he was not capable of doing against Basel-Hophaz, was not capable of doing against Gilbert Burns, who took him down seven times. This was impressive stuff. This was a guy who is, you know, into his career, but still developing, still learning. Clearly, and why wouldn't he? He and his team drilled, take-down defense, take-down defense, take-down defense.

We're going to block body locks. We're going to work on working against offense. we're going to work on blocking single legs, double legs, like all the ways that Muhammad has to take a guy down, they were pretty prepared. They had, he looked good scrambling. He didn't, he wasn't panicked. He looked good.

Again, when he was down, he was able to get back up fairly quickly without taking damage. So awesome stuff from Jack. And unfortunately for Bal, he also accommodated some of Jack's existing skills, which was like, you know, hey, come, let's let's go. Let's stand in boxing range and just go at it. And I'm like,

our Blala, that's what you want to do. Yeah, because one last thing. Like we mentioned this a lot in the leaders of the fight. Jack Delamadalina had never fought past the 15 minute mark. Even his title fights, you know, on the regional scene, he had finished. He had finished inside the distance. Never had to go past round three. And I don't know if there's a way Belaw could have drained that gas tank faster.

But the way he had J.D.N. fight him. It was a very comfortable pace for Telomadalina to the first three rounds. Very comfortable pace. What I think we can all agree, some grappling, more grappling. probably would have tired him out, change up the rhythm and everything. But what can you say? Again, Balal fought a good fight. I do think he'll have some regrets when he looks over the footage.

And it's going to be a long road to get this mad back to a title fight at 170, if that is what Bilal is thinking. Yeah, he's, unless there's a backup emergency situation, Balal's not fighting for a belt again. It's just, it's unfortunate, especially with what has happened in this division by the time Balal beat Gilbert Burns to when he actually fought Leon Edwards to where we're at now. so much movement in this division. There's so many big fights to make it 170. And that's kind of what we're going to talk about in a matter of seconds here because of what this win potentially means for the welterweight division and the lightweight division,

because JDM is the new champion. Last thing I want to say just about the game plan and all that, you can see JDM's confidence grow every single day through Fight Week, especially during the press conferences. Blal's just saying a bunch of weird things. It's not about JDM at all. Everything's about, you know, Colby and Usman.

And sure, you have to answer the questions you're asked. But a lot of is the Canelo hand stuff, every single over and over again. And no mention, it wasn't about Jack. Like, he was so locked in fight week for Leon.

Everything he said, like kind of got, got to Leon a little bit. And what really turned it for me, and I, like, a bet i'm not going to go back on it that face off on friday i was like oh boy belaw might be in trouble jdm looked like he was going to eat belal's face it was like just a scary man i was waiting for jddm to

headbut him because that's like the look the the the the the psychology behind that face off not that it says much but belal was just like oh i'm fighting this dude and jdm's like oh yeah i'm fighting this dude like it and then you could see it like that first round to me was so crucial because of jdm's confidence rising throughout the week and as soon as jdm got through that first round he started feeling himself in there he started getting more comfortable and then by the time belal started even thinking about getting takedowns like jdm's confidence was so sky high at that point and belal just kind of let him in there man it's crazy so yeah uh jdm thrived off the confidence living life just started watching MMA. Shout out to him.

But let's go into the matchmaking and get after it. Jack Dalmatelana, the new champion. Islam Makachev has wavered and floated his spirit through this fight. All week, Dana White says, hey, you know what? Here's the thing. Moving parts, but it's kind of accurate that Islam is, his next move is going to be based on who wins this fight. And JDM won.

So now we could see JDM. versus Islam Makachef in a champ versus champ fight. There are others who I respect in this space who feel like, hey, don't be surprised that the UFC actually does. Islam Machchepov versus Ilya. Could do that. Maybe it's still in play,

but it seems like JDM versus Islam is what we're going to get, AK. Are you confident? That is the fight. What are we doing here? Ooh, your face. I don't know if you're confident. That's not a face of confidence, my best friend.

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not confident. I'm not confident. It's what I'm picking for now. It is what I'm picking. I do I do think, you know, come Monday morning, not when they, you know, the infamous Tuesday morning, matchmaking day. I think come Monday morning, those will be the first discussions that they're kind of having. I think Danaway will go with this guys and go like so, you know, GDM, Islam, are we doing this? You know, they'll talk to Islam's team and all that. They'll probably, you know, talk to Jack's team. Just get some preliminary, at least some preliminary groundwork and figure out is this what makes dollars and sense, the most dollars and sense for both guys. So for me again, I'm, I'm, I'm, going that as my my simple solution it's kind of what was promised at the pre-fight press conference i think even again even ilia seemed aware that if jdm wins yeah i'm fighting charles oliverr instead he hopes for a vacant title not an interim title we'll see how that goes um so yeah it's not my number one pick i mean i there's so many good challenges in 170 right now it's it's really it's in a really good spot as far as contenders go and i'd love see jdm face one of them right We have got Ian Machado Garrett there.

Shavkat Rakhmanab, I've undefeated. Should have had his title shot already, you know, just had some bad luck with, with Balal not being able to make the December fight. We've got Sean Brady, who did great against Leon Edwards,

dominated him. You could very reasonably give him a title shot. And then you have the outcomes of fights with like Kamar Usman and Joaquin Buckley and Gilbert, Michael Morales, next weekend. It's a great line of contenders.

That's part of the reason why I wanted Belal to retain because I was like, oh, okay, cool. I want to get to see some, you know, see him build a title legacy at 170. Now, JdM has an opportunity, but, but it probably starts with Islam. And I'm not against that either. I'm not against that either. I think it's a cool fight. If I had to choose, I'd rather

see Islam but it's deporia. But after seeing the way JDM performed on Saturday, man, how can you not be intrigued to see how we do against the pound for pound best fighter in the world? Because he looks, he looked great against Balaal, man. I mean, he looked great against Balaal. I don't think like Islam necessarily is an apples for apples comparison, right? I know people will say, oh yeah, wrestling you know good striking if you could if um if jdm could figure that out against ball maybe you know he can ramp that up against Islam pulled off but it's worse finding out it trust me not like i probably pick Islam on paper right now but uh but boy i was obviously really blown away but what eight jdm accomplished so sure let's go with the obvious answer jackdala

medleyna islam bakership i still don't think this is 100% done no i know i really don't um i think we're leaning in this direction i don't think dana answering that question on thursday was like a guarantee of anything because guys i think you especially those who have been watching the sport for many many years just because dana says something does not mean it's true unless he like i said it's done it's a done deal it's just not and but what What about when Dave Shaw says something? Is that, then it's an idea. Did he say something?

Because he's the king of no answer, answer. That was one of the most, our senior editor won't agree. But that was one of the funniest moments of the, like, because Dana was there in Montreal. Like, we know Dana was in Montreal. Like, we know he was there. If there was one press conference in the past, a post-by press conference in the past four months that he needed to be at, past five months, excuse me, that he needed to be at. It was this one.

You really needed to be this one. Big up your new champion. Talk about maybe Valentina Zhang Wei Li. Of course. Talk about what the hell's going on with the 317 main event. Oh my God. And then having Dave Shaw, I love you, Deshaup, having his friendly face rollout and just not being able to provide

any sort of headline-worthy quote was darkly hilarious. And I am so sorry to everyone out there, like us in the media, who was hoping to have Dana. So we get like three worthwhile stories out of there. Did you watch him? Did you watch Dave Shaw? No, because we started our like live post show. Oh.

And we were like, guys, Dana's going to do a press conference. Like we're going to get all the answers. We're like, we're going to take like three minutes of a quick intermission. And then we're going to like just stretch our legs. And then we're going to hear what Dana has to say. And we're going to react to it. And then on our Slack channel, Jose is like, no Dana. He's on his way to the airport.

I'm like, what the fuck? Seriously. This is like the one time I really want to hear from day. Like I will take a 45 minute. Dana Scrum with the worst questions on God's Green Earth for the final 30 minutes because that's what we always get. But I was ready for it. I wanted to hear it.

Let's make it official. And he didn't do it. Like we didn't even get the Instagram announcement that we typically get from time to time. Like if he doesn't go to the press conference or if he's on his way to a press conference, like we didn't get any of that. None of it. So that's what leads me to think like I think the UFC is going to try one more time to get Islam, Amelia done because that's a that's a massive international fight week fight and they know that we like

international fight week is like a 10-pole event we know we're going to get big ass huge fights with huge implications and while we've had like great hardcore fan cards the last couple international fight weeks the name value just hasn't been there and if you come slamming back with Islam versus ilia like that's a big deal people will gravitate towards that however let me just say this. I am all in on JDM versus Islam right now. I want this fight. I didn't realize how much I wanted this fight until I saw what JDM did last night. I would pick Islam as well, but JDM is a big man. He hits very, very hard. And I'm fascinated by it. Truly, truly, truly fascinated. I think it's a great fight. And we still get Ilya versus Charles. It should be for the real belts. I know it won't be.

because you know how I feel about guys moving up cool if you want to do it no problem but you should vacate your other belt that way it's gangster and it's a risk and you can't just go back down and be like well I uh I did the best I could but now I can still defend my other belt like I just not I'm not a fan of that but if you're Islam in a power position of course you'd be like sure I'll do whatever you want me to do but I'm not vacating this title and what's the UFC going to say no of course not so in this case, I understand why it's not happening. It is still kind of silly. But at the end of the day,

GADM versus Islam rocks, and I'm very excited for it. Mike, since 317 is just around the corner, could we do both? Could they work something out where they say we're going to do Islam and Ilya, and then at near the end of the year,

November, December card, or October, somewhere October, November, December. When did they go into Australia? I think it's supposed to be sometime to the summer. that's okay okay you definitely can't do both then but let's say let's say they convinced jack you know okay your first hell defense it should no they're gonna they're gonna no his first hell done it almost has to be in australia it almost has to be that's just how again yeah but what how god i i want i'm greedy i want both i want both in 2025 i want him to i want to see ilia

and uh and islam uh in june and then i want them to turn things around for um then maybe jack defends against someone else in the summer and then they can get now there's just no way the timing's going to work out I wish I could leave my magic wand and have this happen jack defense once we get Islam and Ilya and then we get uh if Ilya wins then we get Jack and Islam somewhere in the year but that's I'm dreaming too big Mike I'm dreaming too big I'm dreaming too big I mean you might as well like at this point you might just do JdM Islam yeah let's just let's just do it and then if Ilya beats Charles and you know he could

still do Islamilia because I don't know because I just I don't think Gillia is going to I don't know if Islam's going to go back up and down though like if he wins the no I feels like you don't why would you go back down if you can only get one Mike is a JDM Islam or is it JDM I mean ever ever if one let's just say for whatever reason I don't think he's right wow right right right now it's without question Jadam fighting the pound for pound best fighter in the world I do think stylistically it's a very interesting fight i think islam his striking is incredibly underrated his defense is in just outstanding and jdm's defense is outstanding too as we saw in this ball fight like he certainly got hit in this fight but i think a lot of especially on the rewatch

watching especially like dominic cruz reacting to certain things i'm like what are you talking about like ball didn't hit him jdm got his guard up or jdm had great head movement or jdm got out of the way. Like, it's, it's just weird watching it with no distractions, but yeah, JDM versus his um, seems super fun. But now we go to Balam Muhammad, AK, which, like, to be honest, like, I think this is probably one of the easier cards to matchmake for a lot of this stuff. The most interesting name on all of this is probably Belal Muhammad. Because again, I just don't know, although the performance, maybe put him in, like, way better graces with the UFC. in terms of like where they put him and how they view him,

I still don't think he's going to get a title shot again unless he wins like eight fights in a row. It's just the unfortunate thing. And I'll say the same thing about Marab if he loses Ashano Mali. Probably not getting another title shot. Magamank alive loses Alex Pereira. There will be no trilogy. Like that's just how this is being viewed right now.

What do we do with Bilal Muhammad, AK? What are we thinking? I'm going for chess. We've got storyline. This has been brewing for. It's the easiest fight to yeah. I mean, the time, yeah, yeah, let's just do it. They keep talking about their stupid podcast beef.

Yes. Right. It's, it's Kamar, win, lose, or draw. I don't know if you're predicting Kamar will win. Yeah. Same exact. Same exact thing. Yeah.

Regardless of result, you have Sanana. We're doing Balaura Squires. Okay. That's it. Simple. This was, as you said, this was an easy card I thought to match me before. I think until it got to do, actually even, even all the way, yeah, all the way down the main card. Pretty simple.

Yeah. It's, it's just perfect. because even if Kamaru wins, yeah, I'm sure he'll call for a teleshot, and I'm sure the UFC will consider it just because he held the title for so long, and he still has some name value. But he's not like a, you know, he's, Camaro is not box office gold. He don't have to rush him into a teloshot just to,

just to squeeze one more big, like, oh, one more big, a swarm of pay-per-view buys at a-Kamaru. It's not really Kamaro's purpose, right? He's a great champion who is, you know, is right there in that, like, B-tier of championship fame that they like in the UFC because that means the UFC's a-tier, is always a-tier and all the fighters are below. But yeah, I want to know where they are in their careers. Like I still think Muhammad has a lot left to give.

But who knows? Maybe maybe we just saw his like hit the best run of his career, including the JDM fight, where he looked good. You know, maybe we just saw the best friend of his career. Let's test him against Usman. Age appropriate matchmaking. I love seeing that at 170 these days. Big theme at 170. And Kamaro, yeah, I think he'll still have a lot to prove even if he, even if he beats Buckley.

Yeah. And honestly, like Jed and I were talking about like who lost the most last night. in terms of, like, guys who weren't fighting. And someone asked if Armand Sarukian was the biggest loser. I think he's, I mean, I actually, if we're talking lightweight, I actually think Justin Gachi probably lost the most because now he's going to have to fight Armin instead of being like smack dab in the title mix. Because there is a world where Justin Gachi could have got the Islamakachat fight.

It could have happened. If there was some negotiation stuff with Ilya and they couldn't get it done, like Gachi was slotting right in there. So I feel and now Gage's got to fire arm in Zruiken, which is a damn good fight and I want to see it. A lot of people are asking about Shafkot. Is Shafkot the biggest loser? I don't know because if Islam wins the belt, Shafkot versus Islam is frigging huge. Like that is a huge fight.

I think Kamar Usman kind of lost the most, man, because he needed Bala to win. He needed Bala to retain. Absolutely needed it. Because now Islam just jumped in front of the queue. and Usman's time away from the sport has knocked him so far back. I know he doesn't feel this way. But every day he didn't fight, every major welterweight battle that needed a backup

or needed a replacement that he didn't get in for hurt him. And I understand why he didn't want to fight. Like if he's going to come back, he wants to be at 100% or as close to it as possible. But like watching Ian Gary fight Shafcott and almost beat him, Kabar Usman does no doubt in my mind. He was thinking himself, shit. I should have taken that fight.

I would be fighting for the belt right now. And you probably watched JDM beat Bilal last night. I was like, shit, I should have fought Shafkat. I might be the champion right now. And now Islam has jumped in there. So it's tough, tough scene. So I think no matter what happens, we're just fighting Bilal Muhammad next,

let's just cash it on that before it's too late. And yeah, things are real super weird last night, right now with lightweight and welterweight. And AK is a fan of chaos. we're getting. Valentina Shvchenko still the women's flyway champion. I saw someone ask earlier. Did you feel like this is a clear-cut win for Valentina?

I absolutely did. When that fight was over, I was like, yep, she won. 48-47. It was competitive. Manfioro was able to sort of get the fight she wanted. Again, if we're not talking about game plans that are kind of strange, Valentina Shof-Chanko, right up there. Because she hammered Menonfior real early.

uh lazy bad i'm not forgetting who's been his book that's why we said win loser draw against walking buckley you just go and make that fight uh ball do you see belal's face see dana white's instagram stories belal ain't fighting for a long long time uh i will it would not shock me if belal did not fight again in 2025 with the amount of damage he took last night so uh but valentina really stung up man man on crazy and then she was like you know what, I'm just not going to punch it all in round two. I'm just going to let Menon dictate everything and hold me against the fence and all that. And then kind of the same in round three, honestly.

You can make the case that Menon was up two rounds to one and then Val wins round four. With the knockdown, that was close around? I mean, I don't know. I'm trying to remember. I didn't, trust me, I did not rewatch this fight. I don't think there is really a need to. and round five was Valentin a round. So 4847, I think was pretty comfortable, clear scorecard.

But it's Jean-Wea Lee, right? Like, what are we doing here? I know you're a man of Prince. I can't believe you are doing this to your favorite fighter, Natty Ice. We are one of the main drivers of the Natty Ice type train. And she took care of business on Saturday and I think deserves a tell a shot. But I'm not crazy. I love the idea of Zhang and Valentina fighting.

As Jed put it in the post-fight show, this is quite literally two of the three best women's fighters of all time. And it would be a shame if we never saw them fight. So kind of like, you know, the same question I posed to you regarding the main event. If I had, if I could only choose one, like if picking one meant the other never happens, of course I would pick Zhang and Valentina. Of course I'd pick Zhang and Valentina. Like I'm definitely more intrigued by that than.

than Natty Ice and Shepchenko. But, but I've also been pushing Zhang and Birna Janjeroba. So I still want to see that fight. And again, if I had to choose between, do I want to see Zhang and Virna or do I want to see Zhang and Valentina? Yes, of course, I'm picking Zhang and Valentina. But the fact that we have these worthy challenges that I'm really, really, really intrigued by,

I want to see them happen. Now, again, it's, it's, I'm not trying to set this up. Like, I'm not doing a Devin Haney, Ryan Garcia thing, where I'm like, oh, I only want to see it because I think Valentina is going to win. I was going to beat Natty Ice. I think Zhang's going to be Virna and whatever they'll get the fight anyway. We'll just take our time, push her. I'm not doing that.

There's a very realistic chance, I think, that Natty Ice could beat Valentina Shepchenko. I am so impressed by Natty Ice. I know you're going to have to match make her in a bit, but essentially this is my, you know, my match for her. A very impressed where I actually would pick her to beat Valentina. And I would assume she'd be favored because Manil was favored. And if Manel was favored, I don't see why. Natty Ice is not going to be favored against Benetina. Why was Menon favored?

I don't understand. Like, I still didn't like, I didn't understand that at all. I don't think she opened as a favorite, though. I don't know if she did, but, but she was at the beginning of fight week. Like the beginning of Fight Week, Manon was favorite. She was from Fight Week, from the beginning of Fight Week to Fight Night, Menon was favored. And I don't remember what the opening was. But, um, I'm a look at up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, please do, yeah. So Tenko opened is a minus 107 favorite. Yeah, that, well, only minus one of seven. So it was almost a pickup right from the start. Pretty much, yeah. And then money came in on Menon, which I guess, I guess people thought like there's some very slight plus money to me there. But by the end, I think when it opened, I believe on a fan duel, it was plus like one.

I think Valentine was plus 112 or something. So she went back to being the underdog and bouncing by decision plus 220, which hit. So I hope all you guys listen to my no-bent sparred and followed that. Hit that one. That was fun. That was fun. I think if Manon was close as a favorite, I think Natty Ice would as well. I think people look at the eight.

With Menon, I think it was the size thing. I think with Natty I still look at, you know, age. She is considerably younger. There's a speed thing. She's a fresh challenger. We haven't seen her lose in the UFC. So there's the lore of the undefeated, which Manaa also had. I think Nadiahs would close the favorite.

But maybe not. Maybe the way Valentina took care of business in this case would kind of smart people up and say, well, we're not putting her at underdog as odds anymore. So I really want to see that. I really want to see that. I understand this could cost us the Zhang-Sychenko fight. So I'll be that stick in the mud and say, I can wait. I can wait just a little bit.

I can wait just a little bit. I don't need to see it next. Natty Ice should get a tail shot. My best friend, you're my best friend, but you're so wrong. I know. I'm going to see this a lot. We got to comments. No, we just got to do it.

And look, we'll get, I'm going to get to Natty Ice in a minute. You know, I'll just get to Natty Ice now because you've already matched me for her. It's a good win. She beat Alexa Grasters. She beat a former champion. The problem is, and I don't even like fully blame Natty Ice for this. this, that fight was not great. It was not a thrilling watch.

I won't rewatch it. I expected a lot more. But again, it is not, I don't blame Natty for that. Alexa, we want to talk about shocking game plans and execution. What the hell is going on there? She did nothing until a minute left in the second round. And she's like, oh, I'll just come forward and punch her real hard. And she was finding success doing that. And she was like, eh, I'm just not going to do that anymore.

And now I just pieced her up and had a great time doing it. She was, even Natty. It was just like, okay, like, we're doing this? She, like, Natty Ice is like Israel Adasanya when she fought Jared Canaanir. Cannon Air all fight week. This is going to be a great fight. I'm going to be in his face. I'm going to try to take his head off.

Alex Grasso, it's going to be a firefight. You don't, your fans aren't even, you have no idea how great this fight's going to be. And then she just stood at range and let Natty kick her and punch her a whole bunch. Like, it was just super, it was super weird watch. Having said that, if I'm not Natty Ice's manager, I'm not her coach, I would not do a single thing unless it's for the belt. Now, I'm not saying she's next. I think Zhang is going to get the shot.

But if I'm Natalia Silva, I do not fight anybody until that fight plays out. And you fight the winner, even if that means you have to sit out the rest of the year. You cannot Joanne Calderwood this situation. She might have a title shot locked up right now. It's possible. Again, I kind of wish Dana White was at the press conference to answer this. But just don't fight anybody else. I do think she's going to end up fighting, though.

That's just the type of gal that Natty Ice is. Do not Jojo Calderwood this, but she's going to. Macy Barber and Aaron Blanchfield are about to fight each other. That he's going to probably fight the winner of that. but if I'm her I'm not fighting anybody I'm waiting to see how that plays out I weigh in as the backup fighter for Val versus Zhang making an extra paycheck

and then just whoever wins you fight like that's just how it goes down and but yeah no Jojo do not Jojo this thing although I think she will but I would probably pick Natty to beat either Barbara or Blanchfield at this point so maybe it works out but maybe it doesn't very risky

what meant off for your AK I know you you guys liked Grasso. That was my first thought. You know, just makes sense. They both lost in the same card. They're both still in the top five, top six.

I didn't go with her. I went with Jasmine. I said, I said, let's go with them. Yeah. Let's go with them. All right.

We could cue it up. One, two, three. Oh, Friends. Forever. I was unprepared. 100%. I was like,

I wasn't sure if that was an official like, because like, you know, we kind of just match up. I always feel like matching up people from the same card. It's like, I don't know. Do we count that for Friends Forever? But of course,

I'm never going to pass up in the opportunity to sing some friends forever. Welcome aboard Air Canada. Rocky's vacation here we come. Whoa, is this economy? Free beer, wine, and snacks. Sweet. Fast free Wi-Fi means I can make dinner reservations before we land. And with live TV, I'm not missing the game.

It's kind of like I'm already on vacation. Nice. Air Canada. Nice travels. Wi-Fi available to AeroPlan members on equipped flights sponsored by Bell. Conditions apply. See Air Canada.com. Ontario, the wait is over.

The gold standard of online casinos has arrived. Golden Nugget online casino is live. Bringing Vegas-style excitement and a world-class gaming experience right to your fingertips. Whether you're a seasoned player or just starting. Signing up is fast and simple. And in just a few clicks, you can have access to our exclusive library of the best slots and top-tier table games. Make the most of your down-stead table games. Make the most of your downtime with unbeatable promotions and jackpots that can turn any mundane moment into a golden opportunity at Golden Nugget Online Casino.

Take a spin on the slots, challenge yourself at the tables, or join a live dealer game to feel the thrill of real-time action, all from the comfort of your own devices. Why settle for less when you can go for the gold at Golden Nugget Online Casino? Gambling Problem Call Connects Ontario, 1866531-260. 19 and over. Physically Press. in Ontario. Eligibility restrictions apply. See golden nuggettcasino.com for details. Please play responsibly. Yeah, yeah. Jasmine deserves a big fight. And Jasmine deserves a big fight. There's other people on the top six, top seven that you can probably fine for her. But what more do you need to do with her? Like she's not a spring chicken. Young certainly most in fight years, but like Mano, she's what, 35 also 34, 35 years old. right like she is she is um she 36 36 a little bit further along on the you know when we when we think

about athletes in any sport we would think of 36 as you know as as as as as as as a bit older um but she's still a fresh face still relatively fresh to the ufc i think and say what you want about oh jessica and josh shouldn't be fighting 125 anymore i think we all agree that's still a former ufc champion um at 115 pounds that's still a tough person to to dominate in the way jasmine did um and And they've done really good matchmaking with Jasmine. So I do think it's time to give her that number one contender opportunity. And it goes to Mano. And not a guaranteed win at all, by the way.

This is not a, oh, well, Mano is just going to run through. I'm sorry, Jasmine's just going to run through Menon and get that title shot. No, man, this is a real test for Jasmine Yassadavs just to see if she is as good as we hope she can be. Because there's still a lot of doubters, still a lot of doubters that maybe she's just benefited from, like, you know, favorable matchmaking, which is fine. That's how we want to build up contenders, and then you give them the real test. And I think that's, I think that's been all. Yeah, I like, I like the fight. Jasmine at this point is like, let's just throw her to the wolves.

Because I love the Androge fight. Like, I got it, I was happy to take the, at least a piece of an Otno point for that matchmaking. And this is exactly how you build her up. Now it's just throw her to the fire and see what happens. So I like that piece of business. We'll see if the UFC does. And we'll go from there. Amin Zahvi.

gets the win. I have not rewatch this one. I'm going to rewatch this fight later at the airport. All right. Can we talk about this, Mike? Oh, what? Do you have a spicy hot take? I don't. I don't. You guys know, I think the fact that my take is not spicy is what makes it a hot take because the hot takes were flying on Saturday night. Certainly the word robbery. The R word robbery was being thrown around before the R word retire was then uttered by Josie Aldo. But I tweeted. my tweet sums that up was. No, I'm not, what are you afraid of that I'm going to say it was a robbery or that I'm adamant

that it wasn't? What's your, what's your concern? You're adamant that it wasn't. I'm definitely not adamant it wasn't. I'm going to do my first robbery review in a while probably. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I think the nature of the fight and certainly the amount of discourse over it was immediate. I think, but I think my line at the time, and I will have to rewatch it for sure.

My line at the time was I don't, oh, I actually don't have a problem with. 29 28 Zahabi, but I also hate myself, was my, was how I phrased it. So because, uh, live blog, live blog, 29, 28, Aldo, first two rounds for Aldo, of course, third round to Zahabia. I saw a couple of people who maybe weren't paying attention to the third round, who full attention and we're like, what, Aldo knocked him down early in the round. You give round three to Aldo as well. I'm like, I, I don't see a world.

We can give third round to Aldo. Um, he nearly died in the last two minutes. Credit, credit tone for the knockdown. Amazing finish. Three knockdowns, by the way. Three. Is that on UcStats.com? It should be.

It should be because he knocked Amon down, kicked him in the face, aiming got up, he knocked him down again, kicked him in the face. Just the one. Got back up. Knocked it out again. It was three knockdowns. I believe the first knee that kind of put arm and down, I think that was considered a push. I think it was a considered a push and not a knockdown.

I think, I could be wrong. I could be wrong. I'm just saying U.S.C. stats only has the one knocked down. I'm just trying to figure out how they might have only given one. I think in the moment, because in the moment, I was actually unclear whether he caught him clean, like on the chin and actually knocked him down or whether he was kind of already reeling from another Aldo strike and kind of got pushed down. So either way, officially only one knockdown, but I just don't see how you can watch the last few minutes that round and say that wasn't a Zahavi route. Aldo was dying. He was an old man dying.

It pains me to say it. I'm a huge Aldo fan. And I did score the fight for him. I had it 29, 28 Aldo. First round, I think pretty clear Aldo. second round i thought was close still went with aldo but this is why i have no problem with the hobby score if you gave zahubi the second round i don't think that's crazy and then i feel like you had to give i'm in the third round um i loved that moment from aldo i wish he'd finished the

fight um but just the way he looked so bad he i actually think that al zahubi was closer to finishing the fight than aldo was because that head kick landed clean and credit to zahubi man he just ate it so i how did he not get knocked out that was He took two of them. That was a- Two of those. It was a pride. Soccer kicks.

Oh my God. That was like shades of Shogun, who, vintage Shogun-Hua right to the face. So credit to Zahavi, because yeah, that could have ended right there. That should have been an Aldo knockout win.

I don't know. So hobby's tough as hell. So I will do a robbery review. Obviously, it sounds like I'm leaning towards not a robbery, but let me watch that second round again. If that second round was more definitively in Aldo's favor, then yeah, man. This might have been a robbery.

I felt it really hurt to see Aldo not win that fight because he fought so well. He fought so well. well. We all want to win. I'm trying to put my bias aside. Maybe I'm, I'm putting it so far aside that I've now, you know, tilted the other way. But yeah, I had a 29-20-A- Aldo. I think Aldo should have won. That third round was just was just tough to watch, though. And honestly, you almost could have had a 10-8, even considering Aldo's success early on. I almost, I almost think. I don't think so at all. I don't.

10-8. Aldo was dead at the end. He was literally dead. But it's not because the hobby beat him senseless. It doesn't. He doesn't. He himself-s-ssel. I know, but I'm saying it doesn't matter. It's a terrible. It's a terrible visual. Yeah. Zobvi probably could have finished that for being honest. Yeah.

But he was also. Yeah. Look, I have to go back and rewatch it. I think like part of it watching a live, because I actually, if you watch the watch party, I'm kind of embarrassed by this. I gave the third round to Aldo because I was like, he knocked him down three times. That's what people said. That's a lot of people say that.

Once. Yeah. So at the end of the day, I'll have to go back and rewatch today. I will rewatch that fight. having said that, I spun this whole, like, Jed's narrative that he wished he leaned into more of, you know, if Balal's, if Islam and Habib were really Balal's friends, they would be, they would have already booked the fight with Ilya. So good. Because they believed in the man. And Jed's regret was like he didn't lean more into that take. That's powerful. Incredible take. Powerful take. And I think 100%

true now, by the way, now that was my incredible take was, although missed weight on purpose, because he's pissed that everybody called Alexander Volkanowski the greatest featherweight of all time. So he made this a featherweight fight and that if he beat Aeman, which I picked him to do, he would call Volkanowski. And poor Movsar of Lov, would have lost out on another title fight

because we would have had the battle for the greatest featherweight of all time. It just was like so brilliant the way that it was all side. And Aldo was bonus eligible. If that main event didn't happen, Jose Aldo would have got a bonus after being nine minutes overweight. Just a veteran

move there was some cheating going on from joe's day aldo like just veteran savvy things that i was proud proud to watch and shout up to valentina shepchenko too she cheated her ass off in that fight and by the way i think it was tan dan who was the referee for that fight right the coliato no was it for the aldo fight for the aldo fight it might have been let me double check real quick i actually forgot to write that down even's hobby should have lost the point maybe it's just my bye is talking Sure. He kicked him in the ding-ding twice in like 45 seconds. Like, come on, man.

Take a fucking point. It was big time. It was 10-dad. It was 10-dad. Back-to-back. And it was just like no stern warning either. Just like, hey, man, just be careful with the groin. After the second one.

It was just insane. But Aiman wins. Good on him. Fun fight. Amon stock rises after that. This was not, the feeling of the Mario Batista fight is not here. It definitely is. Like, Mario is just like everyone hated Mario.

everyone hated the judge. Everyone hated everything about that. Jose Aldo hated it. It's pretty bad. I am going to give us a hobby what he wants here, although he dropped a doo-do pick for his callout. He called up Marlon Vera, who's literally fighting at the next pay-per-view.

So we're going to half give him what he wants, potentially. Marlon Vera is fighting the aforementioned Mara Batista, and Amon can fight the winner of that fight. That's how we're going to do it. Sorry, say, who's fighting, who's fighting Batista? Oh, you're saying, Cheetah is fighting Batista.

He was having Chita Verra. And he gave him the winner of, he was already booked to fight, some doo-doo. So he can fight the winner of Cheeto versus Mario Batista. Can you imagine if Avin Zahabi beat Jose Aldo that he has to fight Mario Batista? Oh, my gosh. It's what they both deserve. What a time. That's what they both deserve, I feel.

Wow. No. So I had on a previous show, I wanted Montel to get the winner of that fight. So I actually still kind of think it makes sense for Zahubi to maybe get the loser. And in a way, I might give him what he wants because I think I am picking Mara Bautista to win that fight. So in a roundabout way, Amin will get the Cheeto verified that he's looking for. So yeah, I want Mon.

So I'm essentially saying I think it's going to be Montel, Jackson, Mara, Batista, and it's going to be Marlon Rivera versus Aman's Hot. That's what I think. Yeah, I think I feel good about that. And I love the comment about the return to featherweight. This was brilliant stuff. This was like, and I think you would know, brother that I have. This hasn't happened.

I don't think to any of the sports teams that I follow. But I think that's happened with the Patriots, right? This is like when an athlete, they signed the one-day contract with the team to say, oh, I retired as a patriot or whatever. This was that. This was Jose, you know what? He can say, I retired at the division that I ruled over for years. So well done.

He signed the one day. This is how we'll remember him. A great effort, arguably a robbery at 145 pounds. Can you imagine Valdo got the nod and he called out bulk? Like, he'd be fighter of the year. He'd be the front of fighter of the year. I'd be crying. I'd be so happy.

It'd be incredible. Like, it would be the greatest watch party reaction of all time. Don't retire. Maybe, well, actually, it might not be the greatest watch party reaction since the, the Jed and Mike era, because that happened in the previous fight, the main card opener. We already talked about Natty Ice, so you can go back and check that out. Ben Wassantini fought Kyle Prepeleck in the main card opener. Jed and I both had bets on this fight. Jed had the over one and a half.

I had the under one and a half. And Jed won the bet by five seconds, because BSD just didn't really. I mean, he just wanted to tackle him in the first round, but not deliver a whole bunch of punishment. Shout to Kyle Prepick for holding BSD's arm for almost an entire round. I don't know how he did that. Pretty impressive stuff.

And then BSD just was like, all right, I'm done with this and just beat the hell out of Kyle Perpileck. But our reaction, we have a timestamped on the watch party. You can go watch it. I'm livid. Jed is laughing hysterically with his victory. But good bounce back for Ben Wastontanee. He was like, all right, Matush Gamrod.

We could fight. Now we can talk about it. Of course, Gamera was booked against Ludwig Klein, so maybe we could put that fight together. But there's a lot of options here. Jed and I ran through a bunch of them during the watch party. Where does Benoit Santini go after getting back in the wind column, AK? Firstly, Mike Jed had the inside scoop from me about Kyle Preppelach. I know.

Yes, you know. No, that's right. I told him. I said, this guy has not been finished. It's 2013, man. He don't get finished. I mean, he did get finished. but I think he's more durable.

I think most people were expecting people to run through him. I had a bet on Fanduil just to make round two, so it was much less stressful for me. Though still somewhat stressful. I did see some of the... He was going for those chokes pretty hard, VSD. So I was a little concerned, but once that time ticked away,

I was very happy to take a small plus money win there on cop-replice, just surviving the first round. So, yeah, you got to have faith in his Canucks. We're tough. Though, again, it was literally a difference of six seconds, technically. Because 229, 229, and Mike would have cached. I got lazy here.

I got real lazy here. I just said, I didn't see a lot of people suggesting this either. Is it wrong to rebook the Joel Alvarez fight? I still want to see that. I don't feel. No.

First of all, when you put those two guys together, it's never wrong. Okay. No, I'm not saying no. I'm saying it's not wrong. Yeah, yeah. It's never wrong.

Yeah. Never wrong when you put those two guys together. Joel Alvarez doesn't sound like it's going to be out for a long time. He says he's got a hand injury. He said, I think hopes to be back in training in three weeks or something. So, you know, hopefully nothing too serious. and I see someone asking in the chat,

did BSD gain any stock? And like, he didn't lose stock, but that was big for him because he had lost stock, I think, with the Hennata Moikano loss. The Dustin Pura loss was whatever. Huge step up for him. He looked good at moments in that fight. And he lost. He lost to a more experienced guy, one of the five best lightweights ever.

No shame in that. Hanata Mekano was a straight up just humbling. It was just like, oh, wow, like, this is a different level that BSD isn't at yet. So this was kind of a recalibration for him. I think Joel Alvarez was the right matchup. That's closer to the range, I think, where BSD is at. He's only been fighting pro for six years. And having to go to prep elect, whatever, that's just taking care of business, late notice replacement.

I still want to see where we're at with Joel Albers. Love that fight. I moved on from it for now. We can always revisit it. Just because I'm not, I don't really know what's going on with Alvarez and how long he will be out for. I want Grant Dawson. That's what I went with. Going back to the well.

Let's just go ahead and do that fight. I know Grant Dawson's calling on Michael Chandler, which, by the way, love Grant Dawson. He is hilarious. I love how he's like, normally I don't call out guys on long losing streaks who are older than me, yet he called out Tony Ferguson for like a year and a half, which is hilarious when Ferguson was just way down and I was on the show being like, no. If you make that fight that is promotional bout practice, this is a terrible callout. Please don't do this.

I don't think he's going to get the Michael Chandler fight. If he goes out and fights BSD and beats up BSD, maybe he gets it. Maybe he gets what he wants. But beating Carlos Diego Faheda and then going to Michael Chandler. I'm not kind of a trajectory I want to see you from Grant Dawson. Grant's going to be kind of in a position like Bilal where people like him, but he's going to have to win a lot of fights to get a title fight at 155,

especially with the current landscape. So, yeah, BSD Grant Dawson, fun-ass fight. It's one Grant could win. It's one BSD could win. So good performance for BSD. Did we need it to do. To me, he needed a 30, 25 or a finish for his stock to not drop. And, yeah, Dominate, got the stoppage.

Let's go to the wildcard around AK. Match make for one fighter. We've not matched for yet. And match week for them right now. I'm going to go first, AK. Please. I'll go first. I was not on onto the next one last week.

You shout out to you for holding down the fort. I was making a long drive back from Orlando to South Carolina. So I did not get to matchmake for one, Daniel Rodriguez. So I'm going to go ahead and do that now and just kill two birds with one stone. Mike Malott versus Daniel Rodriguez. I think we're going to go that route and have a little bit of fun with that because Mike just kind of beat the hell out of Charles Ratchie. First round was fun. It was kind of competitive, but Mike was starting to gain some confidence.

And then that was a brutal ass knockup, man. I thought he's definitely going to get a bonus. Racky was in a really bad place after that. Ground and pound that Molot delivered after he thumped him. And shout out to Charles Racky, too, man. Like, you may not have to like the guy, but he did everything you can ask a prelim fighter to do on a pay-per-view card. He drummed up excitement.

He made it worth watching. He created his own storyline. And at the end of the day, if he won, he would have gained a lot from it. but he put over the hometown talent. And Mike Mollat was like the star of the card because of what happened. He looked like a couple of Billy because of how Charles set him up. Charles is a valuable member of this UFC roster. He should have a job forever for this exact reason, whether you like him or not.

Mike Mollat versus Daniel Rodriguez. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. And yes, as much as I hate, you know, all the rhetoric that Charles Wright used to promote the fight, there is no question, no question, objectively speaking, that Charles Radke's like, you know, Fight Week interviews and all that increased the interest in this fight by, I don't, I don't, 10-fold. And I say this is like, I'm a fan of Mike Malott. And even this matchup was now.

So I'm like, oh, yeah, cool matchup. But like, that was it. That was my thought of it. Like, cool matchup. I probably did not think about it again until Fight Week. And then, yeah, then, you know, Radkeke goes full Patriot, full USA, USA, USA. and me and again that whole crowd was super into it

they would have been into it anyway but they were mega mega mega into that fight like it was like the main event of the card so again I I personally don't like that stuff but you cannot deny it you cannot deny that the way Radki approached it you know increased interest in and I would say while he may have crossed the line

with you know certain comments in the past I don't think he said anything this week that was really like that was really offensive if you're against like again you know that kind of nation versus nation, whatever, culture versus culture promotion in the first place, then yeah, I mean, you probably think it's awful. But I don't recall him saying anything like weird, any breaking any weird stereotypes or saying

anything particularly horrible. So I thought he played the heel to a T. Maybe that's just who he is. And if so, that's unfortunate. But this is the fight game. This is the fight game. And boy, that was pretty much textbook fight promotion by Charles Radke. Because Mike Malant, nice guy, cool personality.

Not a huge star yet, not a huge, like, jump off the page headline maker. But Charles Racki has the potential for it. And anyone who gets matched up with him, you can kind of trust him to do some of the promotional lifting here. So in that sense, good on that. And again, I don't wish, ill on anyone. Hopefully, hopefully he's okay because that was a rough knockout. That was a rough knockout. Hopefully Charles Racki's all right.

I also went with Mike Moulod. I think your pick is perfect. I just couldn't go with Daniel Rodriguez because I, I said last week I want to see him fight another old person. So I was like, I just gave him the Kesa McGee winner, UFC Atlanta, blah, blah, blah, just old folk. Don't these old welterates up against one another. But that's kind of where Malat is too, because he's not old.

He's 33. But I don't think he's as young as some people think. You need to start giving him tough fights. Young Rodriguez is perfect. I went a little bit lower, but still someone who's higher. I like, El Azusaleski. I just kind of went out. There was a lot of, there's a lot of veteran names you could have thrown in there.

I was like Gunner Nelson, but I'm like Gunner Nelson only once a year. We probably not going to see him until 2026, so there's no point. I also think Puna Suriano is like really the right matchup to make. I did that. I think the last time Mike Malat won. But I think I don't know if Puna's matched up or I just feel like they have other plans for Puna. I'll move on for now.

I don't like to harp on the same matchup over and over again. But I do think him and Puna would make a lot of sense next. But I'll go with just Celeski for now. A lot of good options for Mike Malat. Let's get him, push him into that top 30, top 25, so you see what we can get there. Oh, yeah, man. Like there are people saying like maybe she should. give him a top 10. I'm like, you guys.

Oh, no. No, we tried with Neil Magni. We tried. Give him Neil Magny. You guys saw it. He lost. Look great. Look great.

And looked great. And then just pooped the bad in the third. And one of the craziest turnarounds you'll see like just looked like a completely different fighter in the third. And again, it made sense. He was fighting a guy with 10 times as much UFC experience. So, guys, that's how it goes. But we can get him back there. Let's just be a particular time of it.

Mike Malak could be the drood over a welder way. Like very easily. He could be like a perennial top 15 guy that's always good for a fun fight. You could throw him a lot in there with D-Rod. You could throw him in there with Eliza Zaleski, the Kevin Hollins of the world. Like there is no wrong answer as long as it's a guy like not in the top 10. Like everything would kind of make sense right now. So, uh, all right.

Let's go to the peeps. Uh, send your suggestions in. We're going to go for like 10 minutes and then we got to get out of here. Um, I have to pack and. do some Mother's Day stuff. Oh, yeah. Happy Mother's Day, everyone. Happy Mother's Day.

Sledo, I'll never forget the UFC for how they booked the legend, Josiah Aldo in the past two fights. Past two fights. Past two fights? Oh, my God, Sleeto. Past two fights. Mike, Mike, please, Mike, please, Mike, please. Past four fights. Breathe, Mike.

Breathe, breathe. Marab de Wilesh, Bili versus Jose Aldo, to this day is the worst booking in UFC history. It is the worst booking in UFC history. Jose Aldo, who should have gotten a title shot, had to watch T.J. Dillashaw with one arm fight Al Jemaine Sterling in one of the most ridiculous... That was like maybe the second worst matchmaking is doing T.J. Dillishar versus Al J. Stirling.

And then he takes time off because of how bad this all was. And then they rebook him with Jonathan... They book him against Jonathan Martinez in the return fight. Okay? And he beats Jonathan Martinez in Rio. And that was... That was the last... fight on his deal that was the free and clear fight that was okay josie aldo's coming back so he can

leave the ufc and then go box and be on the jake paul cards and do game red boxing or whatever uh i think in hindsight what when i saw his gloves off and i know he's very classy about it uh that was a man who regretted returning to the ufc and it's not because he hates the organization um it's a man who was like man like i took this fight with with with jonathan martina so i could be free a free agent like a legit free agent and then he went back and i still don't understand it and they rebook him with mario batista and then they give him amens a hobby like what the hell are we doing here like what a great way in hindsight like if he had just gone out and never fought in the ufc again after beating jonathan martina's what like a tremendous way you know for his ufc career to end

just a perfect moment and now look at look at this like potentially like i know jenn makes the case I can't do it for the Marab fight because nothing happened in that fight at all, except for Maraub pushing Jose Aldo against the fence. There's like no strikes landed, nothing, literally nothing happened except for Josialdo defending takedowns. And Jed scored that for, like you can make some sort of compelling case that Josealdo won his last four UFC fights. Not the Marab one for me. I know Jed will die to take this to his grave, but yeah, two fights, two. two fights. Come on now.

The Marab fight, you have to add into this as well. Martinez one was booked, I think, for the close-out moment for Aldo, so I'm not going to take that. But again, I think I'm not going to blame the UFC, and I've thought about this. I take this roundabout way by saying, I don't actually blame the UFC for the last two fights. I stunned Josie Aldo came back. I think the UFC was kind of stunned that he came back to. And so I will partially blame the UFC. but all of this could have been avoided

if he just left the UFC after beating Jonathan Martinez and went in boxed and made way more money. So still kind of surprising to me. But then we wouldn't have got to see him fight his feather rate again, Mike. That's true. That was all Josealdo.

That was all him. I'm just going to look at his last possibly his last in cage words here, just at the end of it. I don't want to go into war all the time and go through this. I just don't have it in my heart anymore. I think this is the last time

you're going to see me. I can't do this anymore. Translation by the great Fabiano, by the way. That's tough. That is, that's not like the retirement you were hoping for. I have no issue with him retiring Canada, Slito, by the way. That's fantastic. But yeah, when you're seeing those words, oh boy, you talk about him like looking like he was maybe having some regret my best friend. The words, just look at the way he said it. That's not a man going out on top. I could, I could have, he's like, I could have box some like one in one shitty boxer and made like a million boxing out of Jake Paul undercard and I came back to fight him as a hobby in Mari Battista.

It's a man who regrets his decision. A loyal man. Loyal to the bone. But I think that loyalty cost him millions and all that. And, you know, he made choices. So there's only one man to blame and all this. But yeah, tough way to see it all go down, especially because I thought he won that fight. And I certainly thought he won the Mari Battista fight.

tough way to see one of the all-time greats go out and in a featherweight fight hurts his chances volk beats mobs are you might not haven't have a conversation anymore uh bsd versus chandler need that also bexod versus said sure yeah loves from our pal left lane thank you left lane i just want to say uh chandler uh yeah i think i have someone else i want for chandler or no i can't remember we said in a previous show um but yeah chanler can literally fight anyone at this His ranking is insignificant, and judges willing for fun fights, winnable fight for either guy. Beck sat, Syed and her Magamatov? Yeah, okay, sure, sure.

Y'all really got Zhang over Rose in the top five debate. Yeah. Yeah. I know Rose beat her twice. Say it to be answered. Look, it's the same way Jose Aldo is the greatest featherweight of all time. No, he's not. And he lost to Connor.

And he lost to Connor. What are you talking about? Connor's clearly better, Mike, because he beat Josie Aldo in a fight. obviously Connor McGregor is ranked higher and the featherweight ranking. Sorry, Terrence. I don't Terrence Lever, I don't mean to make light of your yeah, it's, I'm just saying, you sound in disbelief that we put Zhang over her.

She's been much better as a champion. This is just not, this is not debatable. We all know the story around Rose is that when she's at the top, she hasn't looked great. The head kick of Zhang, amazing. Their second fight, super close, super close. I know John won the second one. Yeah, credit to Rose. It was a great fight. Great fight. You could score for,

Rose got it scored for her. I don't think that's a robbery at all. But it's not like she dominated Zhang. I think that was like clearly Zhang is on her level, if not better. And then you look at how they've done as champions. And Zhang just has a better resume. So sometimes just matchups just make fights. Maybe Rose fights her again. Maybe Rose beats her again.

But that doesn't mean Rose is the better, like, legacy, the better career overall, right? That's just how things go. Again, I hate to keep bringing it up. But Connor knocking out all the, to me, that does nothing to diminish his ranking compared to McGregor's in the all-time featherweight rankings. It's all those way up here. Connor, I'm not even sure, is in the top. seven at featherweight. I don't even know.

So yes, we're very comfortably to have shang over Rose right now. Is oral by fighting Tafiq in Baku? I saw this and I was like, this seems so random, but so specific. That was a thing. I saw you make a face. I saw you make a face. I was like, what is he reacting to in the comments? Okay.

And? So I looked and saw if this is a thing. Apparently he was on Reddit as a thing. I have no answer for you. But I reached out and hopefully we get an answer. But I am intrigued enough to the point where I have to ask, because this is just weights too specific. Yeah, that would be a great fight if they happened. But Casey's, Casey's MMA fighting global rankings will be in shambles if Tofeek, Messiah loses this fight.

In shambles. So there you go. Tristan, Balat versus Puna. Mark Andrebeiro versus Mikhail Olegzecheck. Yeah. Shout out MAB, man. And Bruno Silva seems to be okay, which is good. That seems to be the update right now.

Let me pull up what I just saw earlier, translated by our own Gierma Cruz from his Instagram stories. Quote, stopping by to inform that I'm fine. I went to the hospital and did exams. It's all okay with my health. I've received a lot of messages from people that really like me. I was well. I wanted to win so I could give my message of everything I went through to come back to my feet, but it's part of life. I'm a winner.

And this moment won't end my story and my legacy. All honor and glory to God. So there you go. that is the latest update from Bruno Silva. I know some people are asking earlier. Jarrear, JDM versus Shafcott. There's just no way this fight happens. Well, I'm going to say no way.

I don't say no way, but I know what you mean. It's not their number one option. They're not eyeing that right now. Dude, honestly, you know what? I am going to say no way this fight. Oh, he just said it. He said it America. I'm just so unsure about Shafcott at this point.

Like, it's such a mystery. We don't know how long he's going to be out for. And I honestly think, like, if they go to Perth in July or August, you kind of make that fight immediately. Like, this fight needs to be announced within the next two weeks, if it's got, or two or three weeks. They're going to go to Ian Gary before they go to Shafcott. If it's going to be that quick of a turnaround. Yeah. So that's our map.

But, uh, Islam Ilya could happen. Belal versus Jeff Neal too. Wow. Oh, the last of Balal all the way. back down to Jeff Neal? The last before Saturday, the last man to defeat Ballal

was Jeff Neal many, many years ago. So, you know, if you're Jeff Neal, you're like, listen, good for Jay. I'm like, I'm like, 13 spots. I'm just saying if you're Jeff Neal, you're like, oh, he's like, good for JDM, but I did that already.

I did that. I bet I could do it again. So give me a shot. Give me another shot, but I can beat you again. Bouncing and Addie. If you're a barber winner, or loser.

All right, win or lose. one of this shit. Zahabi figgy. I mean, it's name-wise, it's nice, but I mean, two straight loss. Do you do that in Rio? Just to have, just to have Zahavi just pelted with garbage. He retires Joseo and then he has to fight Dave. Oh, boy.

You didn't mean to. You didn't mean to. I know. It was a great fight. It was a great fight. It really was. BSD Chandler. Again, wow.

Z. Yeah. Like that one. Jasmine Grasso. Odessus Benefield, Sy winner, Sterling Prakneo. Boy, that's a tough fight for Navajo, man.

Navajo showed you had a little bit of gusto, a little bit of that dog in M.A. Burial versus Gautier. Same thing. Same thing. I don't like a huge experience gap right now. Huge experience gap. I don't love either of those.

Grasso and Jasmine, I'm honestly worried about it. I don't mind that. I don't mind it. I just think like, I don't know where Grasso is right now because she's young, but she's been fighting for a long time. People forget she was like in her early 20s when she turned pro. Like she was this prodigy, right?

At 115. Her body language when she's losing is rough. Like her facial expressions, you just see like she's just when it's not, you saw the third Valentina fight. I mean, by the end of round two, she just looked like, I have no answers and I'm just going through the motions now just to not get hurt. And the same thing happened. I think you were said like Natty Ice. It's like she clearly knew she was down on the scorecards. And boy, between rounds, maybe it's just her face.

Maybe it's just the way she carries herself. I don't know. But she looks so down right now. And that's a very bad place to be. When you're fighting at the level she's at against the opponents that she's like we are proposing to book her against. Because Jasmine's going to take her down early on probably and rough her up a bit. Jasmine might just run her over, man.

And even if Grasasas will survive round one, if she has back to her corner, slumped shoulders, you know, miserable look on her face. I'm really worried about it. She's still such a, she still clearly has the skills to do a top tier fighter. But she's been in this game longer than I think people are remembering. and I don't know if it's starting to take its toll on her. It would take his toll on anybody. Yeah.

And think about it this way. Grasso's younger, but has more mileage on her fight wise. Jasmine's older, but has way less mileage. Yeah. Like Jasmine is not someone who has been training for a long time. She is like a prodigy that realized she was good at MMA less than a decade ago. She went with her boyfriend to a training seminar who was a coach. And the boyfriend was like, yeah, just come with me on the story.

trip like i'm going to train a bunch of people and then like after the seminar is over she started hitting pads and they were just like what is happening here and then they realized that she was just naturally excellent at m m ms and then she like she didn't she made her amateur debut in 2017 like she has not been fighting very long um that that that's not a bad place to be at 35 honestly so good stuff uh but yeah i could see that fight happen yeah i've got i look at Yeah, I was supposed to say, Grasso has been fighting for 13 years. She has been, and some tough fights, like high-level fights. So I don't know.

Aldo is overrated. Stop it. I saw several anti-aldo comments, and I'm like, just stop it. It's true. One of the worst takes a bit. I'm not going to ban. Although sucks. The only one in the early days would he had no competition.

Stop. Why did you bring that up? I saw that. I saw that these people do not know. Holy God. Mike, people don't know. I'm not going to call. Wow.

Tell me you started watching MMA in 2024 without telling me you started watching MMA in 2024. That is just an all-time worst take. I'm not going to ban. This is a free country. We both live in free countries. You're allowed to have your opinion. It's objectively wrong.

And that's okay. This is okay. This is objectively right. Haven't fight Jay Ellis. This is what we're doing for. Jay Ray Bs. The UFC has not utilized J. Alice enough. guys UFC has

he should be he should have fought at least 10 times the UFC by now he should be 0 and 10 against some of like our most favorite friends can Shavkat be the next Zabit's due to injury no he's already he's already achieved more I love Zabit but he's already achieved more like tangibly than Zabit did in his brief UFC career

for sure yeah kind of similar runs though it's not a terrible comparison but I think he's yeah a little bit different like Shafkod like lost all the momentum in the Ian Gary fight like round five was like man if this if this is seven rounds Ian Gary wins this fight and when Zabit fought Calvin Cater in a main event that he pushed to make it three rounds Cater won that third round was like man if this is five rounds a beat with a loss so kind of similar in some degrees but I think shopcott's going to fight it's going to be all good

um BSD versus unranked Rebechke I really want a matushchevichie to be the backup fighter for the jola i wanted him to step in yeah that absolutely ruled uh Klein is booked by the way uh against matush gamrott but he could still get it if Klein beats matush gamrott that's fight he could get uh or versus ranked Chandler or Fizzi Fiziv is booked by the way he's fighting Ignacio Baja Baha mondays a UFC Baku I don't know why gamrod is being matched with unranked clients a big step up for step down for gamrott is it Klein's won like six in row hasn't he I think rankings wise people are overlooking Klein but yeah he's on the definitely the right kind of streak that people are like, oh, yeah, if they look at, you know, he's got

that role momentum. I think Gamrot, I haven't seen the odds. It's got to be at least a minus 250 favorite or something, but. Yeah, I think it was a nice 200. Maybe a little less. At the end, yeah, former Tush Gamrott, the backup fighter. He was, he was made the, the one guy who was made the backup fighter and they brought,

and then they needed a backup and they brought somebody else in. Like, just the man could not catch a break. And I think Mattush. And now he's fighting Ludwig. Let's see. I think to this date, Matush is the only guy who stepped in as a backup and not gotten some sort of title fight, right? Not at... Sergei, Sergey did.

Sergei did, but he got interim. He got interim with Tom Aspinall, right? I mean, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't planned. But Sergei, I know Sergey was a backup at one point, and he got interim title fight. I don't know if I think... But never have I seen a guy who's like, hey, Matush Gamera. Yes, Matush Gamera, it's the backup fighter. And then when you actually need a backup fighter, they went to a champion from another division on two weeks notice.

when you had a backup fight. Listen. Like, it's unbelievable. It was the right fight to make it a time. But Chish was the next call if, uh, if Volk was unavailable. Yeah, I'm sure he was. Okay. I'm sure he was.

I'm sure he was. Uh, John, I can't rewatch fights because I didn't buy, but was that kick to the face that Aldo gone on Zahabi as he was getting up? Was he grounded? No. It was like the most beautifully timed thing you've ever seen. Yeah.

Uh, Zahbi had one hand on the ground. And that was it. Yeah. Perfectly. perfectly legal. Zhabi somehow alive. I don't know. Yeah, dude.

Zobbi's tough as shit, man. Yeah. Yeah. I said I have no problem with him. Well, I have a lot of problems with him winning the fight, but I'm just saying I understand the score. Mrs. Jd. Mism Islam.

Rebook Sanchez v. Albers. Yeah. I'm never going to be mad at that. Obviously way to go. Grasso versus the loser of Rosal and Maverick. I actually don't mind that at all. I think that's probably.

I think she should, yeah. That's smart. Maybe give her Andrage at 125? that's not a bad one no more no more androja 125 please stop it i just got i'm just got to stop fighting 125 it's over it's over i know it's fun not to cut weight i get it i know you have knock-up power submissions you could finish some people at 125 stop it just if you can make it comfortably please go back to one with dean for the rest of your career who does patty fight next anyone who wants anyone he wants it uh toporia

You probably fights Toporia, right? I mean, if Charles Oliver- No matter what. Like, you just give them Deporia. Now that if they go, if they do interim title fight, like you have to do Patty next. Even if,

even if Charles wins, you have to do a Patty. You have to. Oh, you're not saying, okay, no, I thought you were saying

instead of Charles for USC 317. Oh, no, no, I'm kind of surprised this is not in the discussion. I was, I think it is.

I bet it is. I bet that's someone called. What? I think so? I think calls are being made. There's no way. Unless this is like the greatest trolling of in history

by Patty Pimbley. There's no. I'm just saying I think he's being told to be ready because after. You think so? I think after Charles is, I cut my eyebrow and I screwed up that title fight. I don't think they trust Charles to be like super reliable ever again.

That was such a, that was, it's fair or not, that was such a unfortunate move for. Charles. To suffer that freak cut. Yeah. I just don't know if it's Patty, man.

Patty doesn't even need that to be the backup or anything. So you think we'll get Brady versus Ian. He's saying, been saying, yeah, that's the fight. They have to do it. Have to do it. I just want Buckley versus Ian Gary could get there. Since Dana wasn't at the media scrum last night,

how long until plans for UFC 317 are confirmed? I hope. This week, like the day, probably. Like we need, what do we do? We need to do it. We got to be getting like a Thursday evening Instagram bomb. I can't wait that long, man. No, not even, no.

No, this card is six, it's five weeks away. You're hoping, but there's no main event. You're hoping by the time some people listen to this on the podcast network that it's already, this is old news and we already know who the Oatimannment is. I cannot believe they did not announce this fight last night. I truly cannot believe it. Dave Shaw. Dave Shaw. No, Dave was never going to announce.

He should have gone rogue. He should have gone rogue and go like, you know what? Yeah, it's going to happen. It's happening. What a moment. And then you all would have apologized to Dave Shaw. I'm tired of people saying Dave Shaw doesn't give us news because that would have been incredible. You know what?

I'm tired of lying. I'm tired of lying, especially in Canada. God, man. Yeah, they'll announce it. Look, you know how the UFC likes to do this. They like to control. old their narrative. But again, I, like waking up this morning on like no sleep, randomly after, hey, it's Mother's Day, shout out to all the moms out there,

shout out to the wife and my mom, was, you know what? This is on JDM might not be a done deal. Because if it was, they would have announced it immediately. Maybe Islam's being a pain in the ass right now, which I would respect the hell out of, by the way. I would, it would be such a gangster move. I know who his manager is, so maybe it probably doesn't happen. I'd be badass, man. He's got so much power right now, Islam. It's like not even funny.

Maybe he's being a good bro and going like, listen, give, I'll fight to pour. Yeah, I'll sign on to fight to pour it. But give my boy Balala an immediate rematch. How about that? Maybe. Maybe. The opposite of what Jed has been suggesting. that the Nirmago meta of Makachov clan has been like all along knowing, you know, not having

Belal's back. Maybe it's the opposite, Mike. Maybe they're like, yes. I have, the reason we haven't signed on is we want to make sure that if win or lose, Balak gets another shot of the title. It's been a good bro. 0.002% chance of that. No.

If the conversation is like, listen, I want to fight Kamaru's been next. Okay. You'll get your wish. Then we're in business. I mean, this is the UFC after all. only going to negotiate to like a certain extent. But at the end, like the UFC could literally do pants versus Kai Kar, France is the main event for an international fight week and we'll complain and be pissed about it, but it will

sell 22,000 tickets and sell out and they'll break the Vegas gate record with that fight. It's crazy. Like, it's absolutely wild how on fire they are. They, they sold that building out last night, even though there was like 3,000 tickets or like 3,000 tickets resale and in unsold tickets. it's by like Wednesday or Thursday. They still sold that building out. I believe Dave,

Big Dave said, um, the highest, the highest, the highest, for any non-hockey related, I think events. It was a high,

highest digressing, which is, again, we're talking about Canada here. We're talking about the Montreal Canadian. So that's a, that's a pretty damn big deal. Um,

all right. Michael Lund versus Brian Battle. I thought about that. Mr. Cunningham, Mr. Cunningham asking, uh, didn't,

uh, sorry, didn't practice smoke ratkey as well. What would have you terrible? It would not be terrible. It would not be terrible. I don't think that's the direction they go. I think you want to try and rebuild Carlos

and not just use him as, you know, but I would love to see that matchup. Love to see my. It would have been a, this is mentioned on the watch party. I didn't think, I don't know if like, I think Jed just read the comment

and then he was like, ooh, this actually a great idea. And now I think about it, I think it was. I don't think Malah would have got it, but he should have absolutely called out Carlos practice.

Yeah, yeah. He would not have got that fight, but he should have called them out. It would have been a great call out. even tout his own team you know like oh you know everyone's talking about the fighting nerds but you know it's our nairker top team where the real like where the up and comers and then blah blah you know something like that

like it could have worked all right last question oh it's good mike and ak what if buckley annihilates oosman where does he fit into the title picture damn damn like first round knockout he's not getting the talent again yeah he's not getting the title shot right away it's it's Islam has right of first refusal so it is not he Buckley probably needs to fight like immediately after

like it's just a weird it's just such a weird division right now like if Islam wins the belt like boy that division is going to slow it out a bit if he's going to go back and forth so uh Ian Machado Gary right that's the fight to make right you got that little weird beef there with the way in

scruffle they had yeah but I think I think Ian should fight Sean Brady like that's that's the fight that's it i don't know but yeah i'm not i'm not i was wrong when i said aldo had no really get this don't give this man any more oxygen please i know i know you don't count wec and you don't think it's a real organization but it should be counted to the same extent as the ufc when we talk about aldo's legacy since you know you may not be aware of this but his weight class did not exist in the ufc for a very long time and then they brought josie aldo and he was the quote unquote inaugural champion when he should have just been

like the act of continuing USC champion. I know this is news to you. We're giving you a little bit of a history lesson right now, Anders, but that's how MMA was. Like, there was other organizations besides the UFC including WEC, which was owned by the same company, by the way.

So there we, there we go. It's just a bad take, man. Just eat it. I've had bad takes and... I've had many. The right hand up accountability, like it makes you feel good. Like, you just, the stress just melts away. when you realize, hey, that was a fucking terrible take. And I've been there, man.

I've had a few, and I will have more of them. But I don't think I've had a take as bad as Josalda. I had no competition early in his career. That might be the worst take we've had on the history of the show. It's bad. Or any show on Mnambayfitting.com, if we're being honest. And that is a lot of programming, a lot of hours of programs. So congratulations to you for this take.

So, AK, we are done. Let me pull it up as, as, as, as, we typically do. I looked at this last night. Yikes. I was like, oh, maybe,

I was like, honestly, I didn't think it's just that bad, but it's kind of bad. So let's, let's go to, now, compared to a lot of the apex cards

we have gotten this year, this is far from the worst. Yes, but it's still not very good. UFC Vegas, what is this one? 106. This is 106.

Jesus Christ. Gilbert Burns versus Michael Morales. Amazing. Which is a good fight. Six, I can't wait. I can't wait for that fight. Sick.

The co-main event. This has to be penultimate. Okay. Yeah. Paul Craig versus Hidalpho Balato. That is, we can't do this. Their teammates.

They can't fight each other. Oh, sorry. I'm not looking at the screen. Oh, Zobvi versus Robb. Okay. Sure. This is, I'm telling you,

remember what I said? Remember what I said? This is going to become the 2025 version of Gerald Mirchart versus Brendan Allen. It just can't happen. Those two guys aren't going to fight each other. A lightweight fight between Sudec Yusuf and Myron Santos. Okay.

Is it a permanent move for both guys? Or did this get kind of thrown together? I believe Yusuf is a, this is, at least his plan as of right the second is he is moving to lightweight permanently. Oh. Santos is this taking this fight of lightweight because he took it on like two and a half weeks notice. Okay. Okay. This is the ultimate fighter champion, Mike.

He's used to just fighting, you know, just getting throwing those gloves on and going. Dude, I respect the hell out of this from Myron Santos, honestly, because this is a pretty awful fight for him. Yep. All things considered, but there's a huge step up. But if he wins, like, that's pretty damn good. This fight is going to be fun, Nersaltzabaya versus Dustin Stoltzvist. Uh-huh. That's good, that's going to be fun.

Juliana Rosa, Melki Costa is also going to be very fun. Yeah. Melke, sneak it up. He's out a streak. He's not a real streak, Melke. Mateus Camillo versus Gabe Green opening up the main card is a choice, certainly. Jared Gordon versus Tiago Moises. That should be pushed up to the main card.

I'm going to hope when the final schedule comes out. That's on the main card. Luana Santos versus Tynara Lisboa. Connor Matthews, shout out New England versus Yadir del Valle. Mike, tell me about Yadir Del Valle. I wish I could I feel so bad quick hand there

no we mentioned this we talked about this on I think it was on BTL was on BTL we talked about this I don't remember but one of the shows I might have been on you and Jen that's bar I don't know or no bets bar or something but yes the idea del valet

if you someday become UFC champion I take punch me in the face I feel so much as I'm just not familiar and again it's just a bit of course it is of course it is Denise Gohams versus Elise Reed

Jansung Park versus Carlos Sardanda Oh, I like that That could be fun Luana Pineiro versus Tisha Pennington Hey Is the main

Is the card opener Oh God I have to look at this If you fucking do this to us If you give us a 10 p.m. Main card I'm going to lose my It is not

It is a 4 p.m. Prelims start time Like let me Let me assuage your concerns Please it is as scheduled Now it is a 4 p. I don't see why they would move it I think they're

they'll be reasonable here. So right now it's a five-fight main card according to UFC.com with Julian Arosa, Melki Costa, opening up the festivities. Gabe Green, Mateus Camillo is a prelim fight as is Gordon Moises. So what, one, two, three, four, five, six, 11 fights? Solid. Right of the wheelhouse. Don't add anything else.

It's just 12 on topology. I don't know. Regardless, let's hit the music. Let's get the hell out of here. I got to hang out the fan And then I'm heading to the airport Ladies and gentlemen Heading to the airport

And this is a work-related trip Stay tuned The best kind The best kind Casey Leiden will also be meeting me And the iconic voice Esther Lynn will also be meeting Oh my God

And Golf will be played Swing rounds is returning But I'm not telling you who we're doing it with. You're not going to believe it. Like, you're truly not going to believe it. It's going to be friggin electric. So stay tuned to that for A.K. I.

and Mike Hack back next week. Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there. We love you. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Unwrap holiday magic at Holt Renfrew with gifts that say I know you. From festive and cozy fashion to Lux Beauty and Fragrant Sets. Our special selection has something for every style and price point. Visit our Holtz holiday shop and store or online at Holtrenfrew.com.

You may have heard of the sex cult nexium and the famous actress who went to prison for her involvement, Alison Mac. But she's never told her side of the story until now. People assume that I'm like this pervert. My name is Natalie Robamed and in my new podcast I talked to Allison to try to understand how she went from TV actor to cult member. How do you feel about having been involved in bringing sexual trauma at other people? I don't even know how to answer that question. Allison after Nexium from CBC's Uncover is available now on Spotify.