MMA Fighting - On To The Next One: What’s Next For Sean Strickland, Khamzat Chimaev After UFC 328?

Episode Date: May 10, 2026

Sean Strickland. And Again. Once again in the familiar spot of being a massive underdog in a middleweight title fight, Strickland outlasted Khamzat Chimaev to win a split decision and claim the championship for a second time in the main event of UFC 328 on Saturday. Strickland now has a handful of options for his next challenger—including a potential rematch with Chimaev—so who gets their shot at the surefire UFC Hall of Fame inductee? And what in the world do we do with Chimaev after that bizarre performance? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee discuss who should fight Strickland first in his second UFC title reign and whether Chimaev is going to move up to 205 pounds or stay put at 185. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for Joshua Van coming off of his first successful title defense over Tatsuro Taira, where Taira goes from here, plus main card standouts Alexander Volkov, Sean Brady, and King Green, and more. Plus, the fellas take your matchmaking suggestions at the end of the show. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alexander K. Lee: ⁠⁠⁠@AlexanderKLee⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Everybody and welcome to a brand new edition of On to the next one. We are back. The matchmaking crowns have returned following UFC 328. A weird event, I think, is fair to say, especially that main event. We did have some heaters. We had some results that we're going to talk about for a few days. But in the end, we have a brand new UFC middleweight champion, not even really

brand new, a once again UFC middleweight champion. His name is Sean Strickland. He defeats Hamzat Shamaif pulls off another big upset and he is now a two-time champion. Just a second fighter in UFC history to become a two-time middleweight champion other than Israel Adasanya and Sean Strickland just going out there and doing it. So we'll talk about what's next for him. We'll talk about what's next for Hamzaat Shamaif, Joshua Van, Tatura, Tyra, and much more. I am Mike Keck and joining me. And I'm curious to get his takes and his thoughts on this event since, you know, he wasn't here watching it with us last night.

He told you all already. But AK is here. Alexander K. Lee, my best friend following UFC 328, AK, we are back living in a world where Sean Strickland is the UFC middleweight champion of the universe. Crazy. Like you said, only, the only, my best friend, the only two-timer joining the man. And he definitively beat for the title the first time, by the way, Israel Addison, yeah. So we're really raising some all-time great questions here, like where he ranks on the list.

Again, we can kind of dig into that, I think, a little bit later. I'm sure you guys will probably have to talk about it on between the links. I think we will be dissecting this win, the score cards, what this means for Hamza. I think we'll be dissecting it for a while. I think we've got a healthy kind of news cycle coming up to still kind of digest this. because I don't think next week's EOC card is going to overshadow what happened to 328. So, yeah, we can keep talking about it. But yeah, I kind of had to get caught up.

I was certainly following results, but I had to get caught up with what actually happened in the fights. And damn, man, that's Strickland. I mean, he is tricky. I hope no one, like, just dismissed him. I think we were all in our predictions pretty like, yeah, even if you're picking Kamsat, boy, I mean, Strickland is just a tough out for anybody. We said after the Hernandez fight, we're like, man,

he's going to get the Shemaya fight and he could win that fight. After what he did with what happened with Izzy, you just could never count the guy out. You know, you can say, people know that I don't like a lot of the stuff the guy says. I have my issues with him for sure. I've never questioned his fighting ability. I don't find him that fun to watch. But you know what's fun, Mike? Winning, winning UFC championships, guaranteeing yourself a spot in the UFC Hall of Fame.

So however you feel about Sean Strickland personally, the guy is a pretty decent fighter. and his legacies, it's right up there. I mean, it's real tough to match, especially if you're just comparing him to this generation of fighters. Yeah, he's definitely a Hall of Famer now. Now he's a two-time champion. I think he was already, honestly.

I actually didn't think he was quite there. His borderline? He was, I mean, obviously he's still got many fights left ahead of him. Sean's not a dude that's probably going to retire until he's like 48. True. Seems like one of those guys. But, you know, as he wins good, he got, I mean, he got badly beat by DDP.

that fight was not competitive for one second one the re-fetched. Yeah, the first one was close. One of the closer fights you'll watch, but the second one was like, I mean, it was this lopsided as it gets in a title fight. So that stings him a little bit. He's, I mean, him getting knocked out viciously by Alex Pereira, you know, that's, obviously, it's freaking Alex Pereira. My dude might be the first ever three division UFC champion come June 14th. Who the hell knows? So yeah, it's an interesting conversation.

He's 100% of Hall of Fame or now. Did you watch the fight, A.K. Have you watched it? I watched bits of it. Again, I kind of kind of had to get things together. But man, what I saw, like, there was some, I think a lot of the narratives we expected kind of emerged, maybe in a weird way. Questions about Shemiov's gas tank. You know, we kind of thought, in a way, we thought those were answering the DDP fight.

But I think we also said, boy, was he really pushed that hard in the D&B? trick his fight and what's going to happen when he faces someone who's like a little more squirrelly on the ground a little more maybe a little bit tougher to deal with on the feet and i feel like we saw that then there was all these rumors of like him i don't remember who said it that he cut like 40 something pounds for this fight uh which may not be normal i mean there there is uh the suggestion that he had been preparing himself possibly move up to 205 which to me seems silly but knowing shamiyev is possible and uh you know and his body wasn't where it should be for one 85 fight again i i am not making excuses for shamiyev These are decisions that him and his team made.

These are things that he signed up for. When he shows up and makes weight, he's got to perform. So I don't know. And I know it was a close fight. Like I don't have an exact score for you. Like I will say like a lot of Strickland's fights, they're kind of hard to call, especially to see this one,

which was just all over the place. He was on top of Hamzod in round two. How does that pull guard? He pulled guard in round two. I could. I rewatched it today. I could not believe it. I'm it was just as weird the second watch and then I watched it again with the commentary on and don't do that now do not do that uh boy DC and Rogan had had a rough go of it they're having a rough like they're having a rough go three years yeah boy were they bad in this fight but uh shout out to John Anick he might be the biggest winner in like UFC history right now just trying to maintain a level of professionalism unseen.

seen in this sport. But the second watch, look, I don't think, I never thought it was a robbery. If you wanted to score for John Strickland, I don't think it's a robbery. You can't call it soror. Anyone call us robbery is doing it for bait. Like, just trying to get engagement or something. You're being an asshole.

I just, if you thought Shamiah won, great, for sure. And I thought Shamiya won. And I thought Shamiya, I scored up for Shamiya in the rewatch as well. But again, that third, to me, it's the third round. It's how you scored the third round. Do you weigh more heavily Strickland landing some more shots? Or do you favor more Hamzat's shots having more impact? Because that to me is what I saw live and what I watched in the re-in in the re-watch was,

all right, Strickland is jabbing him a whole bunch. And there's a lot of times where he was jabbing and Hamzat was blocking a lot of it and had his guard up or there were some grazing shots. And then Hamzot would land for every like two and a half jab Strickland was landing, Hamzat would land like a big shot. And I was just so to me like if we're looking at things through the eyes of damage and impact to me, I thought Hamzat won the third round, even on the rewatch. But again, it's so close.

And I understand why all three judges scored that round for Sean Strickland. I understand why a lot of other people scored for Sean Strickland. And I totally understand why everybody was split right down the middle if you go to M-May decisions on the scoring of this fight. It was 50-50, 48-47s either way. Someone had 49-46, Sean Strickland, which to me is a borderline redonculus scorecard. That's a bad card. Well, that'll be what, 2, 3, 4, and 5. There's just no way.

I'm just no way. I'm not saying I agree. I'm just saying if you thought 3 was a toss-up, obviously you give them 2, 5. that's it. I think it looks worse than it. It's like I think a 49. I think four looks worse than it is. I think one and four is like unequivocally Hamzaa rounds.

Like I mean, just no doubt about it. One and four, one billion percent Hamzaat Shiavaya rounds. Oh sorry. Sean got two, three and five. Sorry,

two three and five. Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah. So, I mean, there's just, there's just no world where Hamzaat lost three or lost four rounds of that fight. Right. There's just no world.

There's just no world. But again, Sean, I mean, look, I think a lot of us had the same read on this fight. he survives and this is why I kept saying like this is why Strickland is such an intriguing matchup for Hamzat because the dude is a survivor. He is very tough to finish unless Alex Pereira punches him in the face. He's very, very difficult to get out of there.

And Sean Strickland is a guy that if you can't get it, you can't put him away early. He is live all the way until that final bell. And that's what happened, man. He was in some tough spots. Like Hamzat towards the end of that first round had his arm arms, his hands clasped together, arms across the friggin' teeth of Sean Strickland, like the same way he broke Robert Whitaker's face. And Strickland got through it, survived. And then the second round happened.

And I'm like, okay, Sean Strickland is literally going to, he's going to finish Hamzad. Hamzat's got nothing left in the tank. And then Hamza comes out in the third round after some advice from Armin's Herukin. And I thought he outstruck Sean Strickland in rounds three and four. Like, it was just crazy. It was such a weird fight, AKA. I highly recommend you go watch it. It is one of the weirdest fights based on how we read it.

Like a lot of it kind of went the way like on paper. It went, but then if you actually watch the execution of the fight, you're like, what the hell am I watching right now? It's super weird. Yeah, I watched, but I was like with people. So I wasn't able to fully. I wasn't able to fully cry. So I did watch it was on. It was not like, I was like family social stuff.

So some people, some of them were UFC fans. So anyway, but yeah, there was no real full consideration. I don't want to give a hardcore score of it. I would caution people of, like you mentioned, the way the stats are, Mike is like, yeah, I think Strickland, like, if you look at the raw numbers, like, outstruck him in, you know, a bunch of these rounds. But you're right. The thing is, like, I think people don't always know how significant stats are counted.

And that there has to be some subjectivity. So, like, someone could, like, have, like, oh, 30 significant strikes to 15. And it's like, oh, well, the guy who landed 31. And it's like, well, no, because a jab is considered a significant. going to strike as like a hard left hook. Like that's one. That's one in one. And the card.

So you really have to watch the fight. So again, if I were watching closer, I would give an opinion. I see what you're saying, Mike, but I do think a lot of people just saw the wrong numbers.

And certainly on-screen stats, I don't know what the final U.S.C. stats are, but the ones on screen are usually even more a little inflated. So guys, don't use those for scoring fights. Don't use those for scoring fights.

Again, if you thought Sean won because of volume, perfectly legitimate. Like we can't tell, you know, we can't tell exactly how much some of those punches were hurting comes on. It just kind of look like you said, Mike, like maybe some of Hamzat's shots were a bit harder, maybe doing more damage.

But again, so close, subjective. That's why we have human judges, not robots. And that's how these things are going to go sometimes. Very, very close card. Yeah. It's, it's tough to look at the stats. I mean, I'm literally looking at Rob Fon-Josealdo numbers right now. Yes.

Rob-Fod, like literally doubling and tripling up Jose-Aldo at every single round and got 50-45. Exactly, exactly. And again, sometimes they do tell us, like, there's some fights. You see a guy they blew the mouse. strikes yeah they killed them but again there's other fights where one guy's 15-s-signing the other guys were like pitter-patter stuff and again on the sheet guys is counted equally so you know the number's a bit strange sometimes all right well that's that oh we have to match make now we have to match make how like how do we do this how do we do this mike yeah i mean

even when sean strickland wins the sean strickland fans like can never be happy it's it's always like oh let's just let's just take this opportunity to dump on everybody and just it just be negative negative. I don't even understand. Which is crazy. I got people on on here being like, oh, you know, there won't be a rematch. There's no way you could do it. Homza said he's going to 205. You said it on the post fight show. Your takes have been awful. I'm like, okay, Hamza tweeted out that like, I'll see you again. And then Dana White went to a press conference and said, no, he told me he's going to 205. And yet 45 minutes prior, I said that. Super weird just attitudes here.

And people are like, you're just so mad that like the fight didn't go the way you thought it would. I'm like, I literally had a, I literally cashed a Sean Strickland by decision ticket last night. So yeah, I think we're okay with this. Yeah, I'm only one of two ways. I'm only heard from a gambling standpoint. I had, I had Hamza's last leg of a parloral. So that hurt me. Like, I don't, again, I don't like Johnson.

Climb ended as well. I said, I know. God, it's been rough. It's been rough. But like, I, listen, God, I know I, I, I crap on Sean Strickland's personality all the time. And I will going forward always because he sucks as a human being. But I don't care whether he wins or loses fights guys. Like that doesn't matter. I don't go, oh, if Hamza, I'd want to split, I'd be on here like, oh, take that shot. I'm like, no, I don't care. It doesn't affect

him. It doesn't change it, like, how I feel about him as a person. He wins, good for him. He loses too bad for him. I don't care. I do not. I gain no personal satisfaction from, or disappointment from Strickland winning or losing fights. I thought he did a great job on Saturday night. Again, against someone who everyone was saying, I was going to run through him. I was take Sean Das, going to crush him. And I think a lot of us knew that wasn't going to happen, but when you finally saw it in action, you're like, yeah, this is why this guy is so tough

and is widely regarded by almost everyone you ask as one of the toughest opponents at 185 pounds. Like he's just, it doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter what your style is, he's very hard to beat outside of Alex Palletta and the second DDP fight. And those both, excuse me, those fights both seem really strange,

like looking back at them now. You know what I mean? Like they're exceptions to the rule, right? Well, what's going on with Sean Strickland now, okay? He's the champion. Hamza Tchamai F is giving mixed signals telling Data White, I'm going to 205, but then going on Twitter saying, let's fight again. And the point of me saying that they could just go back to this was because this was a big

event for the UFC. This got a lot of interest. This got a lot of traction. People were very much into this. The numbers across the board on this card. This one passed the mom test. I was getting hit up all week by people I haven't talked to in years or people I didn't even know are MMA fans talking about this car.

This was a big one for them. So in today's TKO-O-Fide UFC, this without question could get run back because of the closest of the fight. I know there's no real beef here, and we tried to tell you that there is no real beef here despite some of the things that were said. And the kick by Hamzaa Chabaya, the K-Fabe ended AK.

because you weren't watching before the fight. They had 700 security guards in there, and they dapped up like 14 times before the fight even started. It was super weird. Like, we didn't even get to the end before the big reveal. Like, we got you. We got you. But in the end, Sean Strickland is the champion.

I don't think Ham, I think Hamza probably should go to 205 because that division is awful. And we'll get to Hamza at a minute, but, was this a good night for Nasridae Nemov? Like, he has to. He has to get this. Like he has to get it at first before the whole yeah when Dana White I don't believe Look those of us who have been around the sport long enough you believe data white 35% of the time and because that's and that's probably being

being pretty generous because he says a lot of things That just aren't true this I kind of believe Could be the thing and I actually think it's probably better for Humzat at this point in his career just go to two 205, but is he gonna, okay? Are we going back to the Shemai if well? Are we going, DDP getting another shot because he's got two wins over him? Does Strickland have any sway here in terms of opponent?

Or are we going to do the right thing? Because you want to, let me just say this real quick, AK, before you make your decision. For those who are looking at a Sean Strickland fight and you want a true rivalry, you want Sean Strickland to fight a guy actually hates his guts. The only place you're going to find it

is with Naserdine Imovov. He literally hates Sean Strickland. I don't buy that. Paul Acosta hate Sean Strickland. I buy, I don't think he hates him at all. Nasrudeine Imov legitimately hates this man. So this, if you're looking for a Strickland actual beef with a guy who doesn't like him,

you've got to go Emovoff here. Let me make a point here, which relates to answering this question, by the way. I just want to say quickly, I know there's some people in the chat that are, you know, you guys can have your opinions or being trolls and stuff and saying like, oh, why are we so critical of Sean's, uh, whatever, politics and personality? First of all, I feel bad for a lot of Sean Strickland fans out there, like are part of this cult of personality because he blew the whole thing up after. I was just like, I was just joking about like, I was just selling a fight. I didn't really believe these things I said.

So guys in the guys in the comments like, Sean Strickland's report, don't be mad at me. You'll be mad at your voice, Strickland. He's just, he's literally just turned on you and said all this crap that you like believe in. He doesn't believe in it. I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. So I feel bad for you. I hope you guys is doing okay.

I actually don't hope you're doing okay because of terrible things if you actually believe in them. But yeah, that's the problem, though, with, and I know you and Jed talked about it post-fight. It's like, that's the problem with doing this fight again, with running it back. It's like, there should be heat there. But, man, when you already go, like, yeah, we were just selling the fight and we didn't mean any of this stuff, and you apologize for how you sold the fight, how the hell are you going to do? do an immediate runback. So add that to the fact that I do think Shamiya,

I'm sure he's going to go back and forth on it like a dozen times in the next six months. I do think he should go up to 205. Maybe this was just, again, maybe this was a circumstance where he thought he was going a 205 and so his body wasn't where it should be. Maybe. Maybe. But we know that 205 be so much easier for him. We know the talent level there is not that high.

It's probably what's best for him. So I'm going to go away from the immediate rematch. Mike. Nassardine Imavov should, if we're just being logical here, should get the fight, but he's been on the shelf since how long now, Mike? September. September. It's not that long time. That is a long time, like.

And he didn't have a lot of heat after like. Hamza was out longer than him. Well, here's the thing. You asked, did this help or hurt him? I think it's neutral almost. And if you guys have like listened to anything I've said about Nassertine in the last few months, it's like, I don't think he's. his position was that great to begin with because the Bahayo fight, a great win, extremely

forgettable. I remember after it was over, we're like, well, imov must be the number one contender, I guess, especially after the RDR and Fluffy fight fell through. Then we're like, oh, I guess it's Imov because that was supposed to be like a four-man tournament and we didn't really get it as it was supposed to be. So I don't think his position was that strong and I don't think it's much stronger now. I hate to say, I think he's going to have to fight again. And he shouldn't.

He's the number one contender. He should get another shot at Sean, this time at 185. It's not going to happen. Mike, I'm going way out of the box here. Way out of the box. You're doing it. And I love you for doing this. This I deserve to be booed for, by the way.

I don't know about some of the other comments for the making. This one, please bring it up. It's going to be so mad at you because I know what you're going to say. Do you know what I'm going to say? I think I know what you're going to say. Well, no, I don't know. Now I don't know what you're doing. It's another rematch.

I want to see Brendan Allen get his shot. That's what again. After he beats Edmond Chibazian-Ucabazian, U.C. Vegas 118 on June what I'm going way out of the I'm going way out of the box I'm not saying this is what I want to happen I think it would be cool I just think there's so much weirdness and I just don't think it's going to email off I don't think they're giving him the shot I don't they don't care for him even though you're right that's like a legit few that this you're trying so I thought you're going to hold it for way with

this who has a way better chance in today's UFC of getting it I thought you're going to go with Joe Piper I thought about it I thought about it Joe Piper has a 5 billion times better chance of getting a title shot than Brett and Allen does. He's doing the USC of favor with the Edmund fight. Come on. It's all for a... No, he's not. No, he's not. He's being mismanaged. The dude just wants to fight somebody. So, like, this is a bad fight for him to take. He might just go out there and lose to Edmund Shabazzian. Like, there is a real world that happens. You got to give a team of off, man. Like, you just have to. This is such a weird division. And shot, like, this is all going to kind of depend on Strickland, too.

Because Strickland is going to have some sway. If he wants to fight. If he wants to fight this summer, they could go and do the Piper fight. My whole thing, and Jed was against us from day one, was if Hamsat Shamaif wins, he's going to 205 and they're going to do Joe Pfeer versus somebody else for the vacant belt in the main event of UFC 330 or like the co-main event now that we know that Islam Makachov's probably fighting E. Machado-Garry on that card. So I think Piper's very much in play after this is he fight. He shouldn't be.

but we all know how the UFC enjoys him and likes him and he's day and his guy you gotta give him of office day man they're not gonna do DDP DDP's got something DDP's got something else in the works

that I'm surprised to not get announced last night so that fight's gonna have some say in this I don't think Brennan Allen's really in play the only other guy I think like could end this free of office as if Shemarov is like, you know what, I'm done.

I'm staying at 185, which he definitely shouldn't. Which leads me to where Hamzaa Shamiyaf is going, and people are going to be so mad about this, but I'm sorry. Again, we are in the TK-O-O-Fide version of the UFC, where merit means nothing, rankings don't mean shit, what you did your last fight means nothing. None of this matters. Carl Solberg is currently the undisputed UFC light heavyweight champion.

There is a world. where he is not that three months from now. They just take the belt from him and then give him a shot after. But I think what's going to happen here is the UFC finally has their opportunity to book a fight. And they're going to do Hamzaat Shamaia versus Paul Costa for the interim bell to 205 pounds, even though Hamzat's coming off a loss. I think they're going to do it. I think this is exactly what they're going to do.

They're going to need a big fight down the road. Yeah, I like it as much as you do. but this is this is where we're at, okay. This is, this is it. So, and then the winner of this will fight Carlos Lerburg and we'll unify the belts. I got a much better pick for Hamzat. All right. You know, you know, my pick is for Hamzat, Mike?

Here's my pick. We're not going to hear meaningful peep from this guy until 2027. Wow. Okay. Yeah. He, he, this dude is going to go zero dark 30 for a bit. No, he's not. No.

You don't think. I'll still see tweets. We'll still see Instagram posts. We'll still see training footage. Blah, blah, blah. He's not fighting again this year. Okay. He has not fought more than once in a year since 2022.

Well, maybe if they give him a shot another belt at the end of the year, he might come back. But here's what I actually think is going to happen. He's not going zero at arc 30. I think he's going zero at arc. There's a chance he goes zero at arc 30 with the UFC. he is him he is going to wrestle for r a f like a hundred times this year oh he's gonna yeah he's just gonna do the army thing true true true true that's right i bet he wrestles in june i bet he wrestles in july i bet he wrestles every chance he gets uh we're gonna see him a lot in arras right okay i'm

sorry he can't he can't disappear because he can be raf's next superstar along with this boy armin this is true but i get i think he'll be mostly off the ufc radar kind of like with like he's with armin where it's just like we're all like shouldn't this be guy be getting big fights Shouldn't the guy be in title talks? I mean, finally, at least we know Armin is getting the backup spot for White House, supposedly, right? So I don't know. I don't know if Hamzat gets, again, I don't know. I just feel like he's going to, other than wrestling, I think he's going to take a break from the UFC atmosphere for now.

You will not see him back in the Akon until 227. I would be very surprised. I also want to say with the whole Armin situation, I don't think, like they're not going to treat Armin. I don't think Armine is going to be treated as like your typical backup where it's like he's going to weigh in the day before the White House card. I don't think that's going to happen at all. I think Armine is in that spot in name only. And they're going to have,

like something's going to have to happen before that fight week happens in order to insert Armin in there. He ain't jumping in two days before that fight. He's just not. I just don't think they have, you can't, it's at the first. friggin Whitehouse. Like you can't just like bring a dude in on two days notice without all of that.

It's just not going to work that way. Like this is going to be treated as, okay, if Gachie trips over some wires right now and can't fight, like Armands the new main event. What I think will probably end up happening is if something happens with earlier, Gaichi, like they'll probably give it like a 13 day period of, okay, once the clock hits zero, like, okay, this is the fight. And if something happens then, we're just bumping Alex Pereira up to the main event. And we're just going to go forward without the lightweight fight.

There's just too much red tape at this point. What a weekend that's going to be. We're going to get Armin versus Tony Ferguson at RAF. And then probably Hamzot on that card, I would guess. And then we have the White House card on June 14th. Pretty insane. Pretty insane. Oh, yeah.

I think Shemaya's going to go 205 and fight Paul Costa. And it's going to be so silly. Like Paul, even Paul Costa getting a title shot is super weird. We talked about it, though. With one win. He's gone against. I said it. Yeah.

He's going to get it. We said probably kind of have to do it. Yeah. But yeah. So Shemai, do you have an opponent for Hamzad? No, no. I don't trust that. It should be Paulo eventually when he comes back.

But again, I don't trust either guy to stay on any sort of regular schedule. They're just, they're so unreliable. They take so much time off. I know Kasa at least like tries to book fights for himself. I think you're right. Shemab's going to be featured Naref a lot. I guess, well, hopefully that means you might have make it the chance to actually get like an scrum with this guy.

guy get some answers out of him, but I feel he's not going to give as much to work with. Yeah. I mean, I'm definitely going to the first to the next two. Pears Armands is going to be wrestling in July as well. So, uh, probably be there as well. Uh, let's go to the UFC flyway champion, AK Joshua Van goes out there, finishes Tetsu, Retirea. And we're all going to be answering your very important question tomorrow.

Uh, I'm not going to reveal my answer. Neither are you, AK. We are going to answer it. And maybe the chat wants to chat, man. you're going to answer whether or not Joshua Van is the best flyweight in the world after this would over Tetsu or it, of course, Alexander Pantoja

was in the audience. Joe Rogan tried to set the tone. Hey, you and pants have unfinished business. Josh Van cut a Josh Vanish promo where not even Alexander Pantosia like made, had any emotional reaction to it. It was just, oh, he said things because that's what Josh Van is.

Josh Van speaks with his fists. But yeah, there's really no friends forever. There's no other thing we need to do here. Joshua Vans fighting Alexander Pantosia, and I will lead you at this before you speak upon it. This officially is at worst. I don't even know where I put this. At worst, this is the third most anticipated fight that the UFC can make right now for me, is Josh Van Alexander Pantosia too.

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But hey, his first actual championship fight with Tatsuro Taira, his fellow Gen Zier, man, God bless him. I mean, I think we thought this would be a really good fight. I don't know if we thought it would be like great. I think we thought we did, I don't know if we thought Tyra would have more success with the grappling and dominate some of that. Did you pick Tyra?

We all picked Tyra. I picked Tyra. I didn't love it, but I picked him. Yeah. Yeah. And we thought, okay,

he's just the bigger guy. He's a little more mature, right? He's a little bit older. You know, Van is not a bad cropper at all. We just thought like Tyra would be able to control him in that sense, do some damage on the ground.

We thought he leveled up so much with the Brandon Moreno fight. right like that like that's what we didn't get to see in the van pentosia because as far as we know maybe van would have ran through pantosia we don't know i don't think so but these young guys level up at such a different rates sometimes i think jed said this in the previous show they level up at such different rates you don't know there could be like two fights where uh where like he's a minor improvement and then there's a next fight boom a quantum leap and they're striking they're grappling their cardio the strategy like that's what i saw in the tyra reno fight i guess that's why i was so high on him. But kudos to both guys, like,

toughing it out, showing off, mixing the martial arts. You guys know I don't approve normally, but man, these guys for their age are so incredibly advanced, so well-rounded, so tough. Yeah, and I just, really, I want to see Van Pantosia too. I just want to see Josh Van Fight all the time. The guy is so fun.

So, yeah, that has to be it. That has to be the next fight. Hopefully, Pentosia's back sooner rather than later. I just want to say, I do have a poll, guys, who's the number one flyweight in the world. Early returns, Pentosia, but only, only a handful of votes in so far just like slight pantosia 52% and i had a poll at the beginning of the show mike how did you score the uc228 main event most people pretty okay with how it went um strickland 62

percent draw 10 percent draw i guess if you thought a 108 the first round and i don't hate and i don't hate that score at all because i mean i know people have like their own definitions of what a 108 is yeah if you watch that round like literally i'm saying literally a lot today um i'm catching myself trying to uncratch it it's okay it was last night it was weird. You and Jed, I think, had to say the word weird, like 500 times because there was just so many things that were, it was just weird. It was weird. Sean Strickland did absolutely nothing, but lay on his back in dominant position, like dominant misposition for five minutes and nearly got finished like three times. Nothing happened on the Strickland side. Hamzot tackled him,

had his back, mounted him, had his back, the whole entire round. Like, that to me is like, nothing, like, it's as dominant as it gets. Yeah. He's, he, didn't land 135 shots. He didn't do the Ralphie from a Christmas story like Sean Brady did to Joaquin Buckley. But Sean did nothing. And Humzaa did everything. And Pat Sabatini got a 10-9 for doing very little to William Gommi. But Hamzat's round was way more dominant and we're giving it the same score.

Like I don't have an issue with you with anybody scoring that at 10-8. I really don't. So draw is not a bad card either. It's not a bad card. so let's go let's keep on going van pentosha now tattoo or tyra tyra uh

i i okay here's the thing i'm sort of conceding something here i'm conceding that maybe the ufc is not invested in giving kioji horaguchi a title shot which is stupid i mean they're putting him in cop and the friggin apex which drives me crazy so i'm not going to wait mike i'm not going to wait for the day like oh maybe taro win the title someday and then he can fight keogi for the title at

Saitama Super Arena. I don't know. It's too much to predict ahead of time. But I do want to see them fight. Not at the frigging apex. Hopefully they do have a trip to Japan sometime in the next 12 months. Because when lose or draw, I think I want to see Tyra versus Kioji. Yes, if Kioji beats Kopp again, of course, you should get a title shot.

But like I said, I don't know if they care. Like I just don't know if the U.S. wants that to happen. I don't know why. I don't know why you can bring him back if you're invested in him. So you do him and Tyra. If Tyra wins and Van is still champion, great. I think people would love to see this fight again soon.

You don't have to wait that long for it. If he ends up fighting Pentosia, that's great too. And if Kyoji ends up going to tell us, I'll be happy. I think it's a no loose scenario unless you're really, really, really, really intent on protecting Tyra or Kioji for whichever reason. And I don't see why you should be. So yeah, give me that. Give me that dream Japanese matchup, the future versus the legend. Before Tyra fights again, he needs to, they need to like tie.

a rope around him so his hands stay like this. And like for a month straight, he cannot do anything else. He has to eat his food like this. Everything has to be like this because he had his hands down at his ankles anytime he tried to strike with Josh Van. And Josh Van literally hit him his heart, literally again, but that's what happened. He hit him as hard as he could a thousand times because Tyra couldn't put his hands up. It was so frustrating to watch because Tyra is a dog and he,

battle so well, but he just had no defense on the feet. It was unbelievable. Just watch a guy fight for a world title and not and just, he blocked every punch with his face, every single one of them. And

it was very close to getting finished in the second round and ends up getting finished in the fifth, but this is what we're going to do. We're going to do Tetsu-Ratira versus Vinnie Sigs. Oh. This is what we're doing. Okay. Because we're going to, we're going to we're going to give him a guy who will punch him very hard,

who is pretty decent off of his back, not spectacular, but pretty decent, he's got a pretty decent get-up game, and a guy who gave Pantosia a very tough fight, who has a very similar style to Tatsuro Tair. I think that's why Tair was kind of a popular pick, because he brings a lot of intangibles that Pantosia brings to the cage as well. Pantosia is obviously a better defensive striker,

and just probably a better striker overall than Taira. So I think we will learn some stuff from this fight. I would pick Tyra to win, but I think we will learn some things watching him bounce back and try to fight a Vinny Singh. So I think that's the right test. Vinny coming off that nice win against Tim Elliott. Yeah, this is kind of where Vinny's role is.

You know, he got that tell shot early, but he's, I think it's fair to say somewhat of a gatekeeper right now, someone of a gatekeeper. Maybe we can revisit that in 12 months. Maybe get some big wins, upsets Tyra. And yeah, I don't mind that fight all. Yeah. Let's go to Alexander Volkov, aka, took on WCA.

I would say a workman-like decision against Waldo Cortez-A Costa. Nice. Maybe the easiest heavyweight over one could ever imagine betting on. But that is kind of what happened here. Volkov wins. Some people thought WCA won this fight. I had fantasy implications. I had my money.

I had Jed and. nice fantasy head-to-head all on Waldo Cortez-A Costa and even I felt a little biased saying that WCA won that fight. Volkov gets it done. Dude is screaming from the rooftops. He wants a title fight. Is he getting it, AK?

Is Alexander Volkov's next fight going to be for the UFC heavyweight title or some share of the UFC heavyweight title? Man, I don't know if that's possible. No, really, no. And I say this with him having been in that sphere, like, for, in that range for really the last few years.

Even after the serial gone lost, like it was just such a close fight. Some people thought there was a robbery that, like, it didn't push him that far back on the line. He's a bit of a hard sell. I don't know, again, from a casual standpoint, obviously there's just not a lot of, like, there's not, you know, Volkov Meney isn't really a thing. And there should be more respect for this guy. He's fought a lot in the O.C. I think this was his 40th pro win.

Guys, that's tough. Even at heavyweight where we say, you know, fighters can last longer just because, you know, the drop in athleticism and speed doesn't matter as much. 40 wins, 40 professional wins. You know how much can go wrong? He's been fighting in high-level promotions for a long time. So huge congrats to him. I just don't know if you can get this fight because we have, of course,

Panetta and gone fighting for the interim. In a perfect world, they fight Tom Asmel, hopefully before the end of the year. Again, we don't know when Tom Aswan is going to come back. We just still don't know. But hopefully that happens. I don't know if Volkov is going to want to wait all that time, because that's not a title fight in 2027 for Volkov.

If he thinks he can wait, heavily wait until next year. I don't know if he wants to do that. At the same time, there's another heavyweight fight on the White House card, Mike, that I'm sure the winner of that thinks they might get a, or at least one of the winners. I don't know, you know, Derek Lewis and Josh Hawket. I don't think Derek Lewis would expect to get a title shot. Josh Hawket, we've said this many times, is really, really making a speed run to the heavyweight title. But again, I think he would have to wait for Aspinall.

So, Mike, give me Volkov versus the Derek Lewis Hawket winner, of course, a rematch with Derek Lewis, if that were to happen, which we have called for. many times so I have no problem with that and Josh Hocko would be a very very interesting matchup. I mean it's kind of not even really a friend forever because that's it. You kind of have to. There's nothing else you could do.

They can't wait. None of these guys can wait. Tom Asselaul should get the shot at Gond or Pratera. Yeah. Volkov's fighting one of these other guys and that's just kind of it. So weird spot for Volkov to be in. He should be fighting he should be in the fight at the White House, if we're being honest.

He got screwed by the Zero Gone fight. And like if we're playing merit and who deserves what, it's Volkov's probably at the top of that list. But yeah, he's fighting Hokkaider Lewis and that's that. Let's go to Sean Brady. Needed a bounce back against Joachim Buckley after getting finished by Michael Morales. And good Lord, man. this was

he was not in trouble for a tenth of a second in this fight he just beat the brakes up Joaquin buckley just trapped him for 15 minutes Buckley had no answer this fight was mired by controversy

all day long with the betting lines swinging in Sean Brady's direction Brady said he got contacted by the UFC saying y'all good he said I was and clearly he was because he just beat the soul out of walking Buckley and probably ended any chance Joaquin Buckley ever fights

for a UFC title. Great win for Sean Brady. I don't think he's going to like where I'm going with this. He's going to fight another guy from this card. He's going to fight a guy who, in my opinion, shout out to Sean Strickland and Joshua Van and all the other winners. This was the best dude on the card. This was the best fighter at UFC 328.

This guy had the best performance at UFC 328. We're doing Sean Brady versus Yaroslav Amosov. That's the fight. I think we can queue up the band. No. Sure. Okay. Sure. Three, two, one. Friends forever. Yes. Yeah, yeah. That's a smart way to go. Amosov, like you said, Amosov deserves it, man.

Any skepticism over whether like, I've seen some sort of revisionist history that his whatever 27, 28 and one record, you know, before coming to the O.C, it was like, a lot of like weaker opponents in there. And I'm sure, maybe the first, you know, 16, 17, 18 guys. But there's a lot of fighters you could look at the early stages. I think he thought bought decent comp and Bell Tor. It sucks. He lost to Jason Jackson, but I think Jason Jackson's really good. So, like, I didn't hold that against him as like, oh, Amosov was exposed. I'm like, no, he lost to another, in my opinion, top 15 welterweight. Bounces back, you know, picks up a win in the regional scene, looks great, as Neil Magny.

And then, boy, Joel Alvarez, intriguing opponent and just took him out. So good for him. Good for Sean Brady. Yeah, Buckley, thought training with Usman might help that take down defense a little bit, Mike. Wasn't great. It wasn't great. Could be better still. Maybe a few more rounds with Usman.

Maybe you'll get it. But that was tough to see. So, yeah, let's take these two guys who are certainly not out of the title picture. You know, Sean Brady saved his life in that regard. And Amosov could be a fresh challenger kind of up. And boy, with that grappling, he's a threat, man. He's a real danger to make it all the way to the top. I have to put this out there because I think we could all learn from this.

If your argument is that no one on the commentary team said round one was a 10-8 round, you're making the wrong argument. I mean, you're truly making the wrong argument. Because Anick knows the scoring better than literally anybody. Anning knows the scoring way better than D.C. or Rogan do. Like, combine D.C. and Rogan's knowledge on scoring of M.MA fights

outside of 25 years ago, Anick has them both, has them beat times five. Yes. Because he goes to the beatings. He knows the rules. He knows how to score. understands what's important and what isn't. You know what I mean?

So don't go with that argument. You got to find something else, please. With respect to TK.K. Stan, who's been kind of arguing a bit with Chad in the comments about the score of the 10-8 round, I now see where the misunderstanding is. Like, if you are getting your scoring information from Rogan and Cormier, like, if that is how you are, if that is why you are, I think, incorrect in this aspect. Again, I would say, look, it is weird. like they do like tweak the language a lot.

I would say look at it's not all about damage now. There is, they've kind of expanded the term of damage. Like I never liked it. I always said I'm fine with them not counting submission attempts. But now they said, yes, submission attempts should sort of count towards damage. It is like draining the, you know, the spirit or whatever, draining the, I can't remember. That might be the old wordage. But yes, it is not as much like, oh, well, you have to do damage, damage, damage,

overall. There is a more of a stronger, like, element of control now and stuff like that. So please do not listen to. Rogan and Cormey. I do not think that like... Don't listen to really any of the color commentators unless it's Laura Sanko or Paul Feldr. Yeah, yeah. Yes, really, that's it. Honestly, there you go.

I mean, that's truly what it is. Like, listen to them and that's, those are the only ones at this point. So, Brady v. Amoshoff rocks. It's great fight. And there you have it. The other thing is, I don't know why we're arguing about scoring anyways. It's nobody's fault.

MMA scoring is dumb. The fact that they're basing it off a boxing model is really stupid. So why are we even fighting about this? It's just a really dumb way to score mixed martial arts bouts, but it's never going to change. So there you have it. There's no, there's no reason to get angry over it, really is what we're trying to say. Let's go to King Green, AK, who probably kind of put the final nail in the Jeremy Stevens fighting for the UFC coffin here. I don't know why he was back anyways. I don't know why he was in this fight. I don't know why he was on this card.

Shout out Jeremy Stevens. This is not a damning of Jeremy Stevens. It just seems super weird. Bring him back for the Iowa card. That makes all the sense in the world. But throwing him in the main card opener of your most coveted and most promoted events thus far before the White House was certainly a choice. And throwing him in there with the guy who the whole world knew

was just kind of obliterate him. It was just weird all around. Larissa Pacheco can't fight in the UFC again, which is super strange. But King Green just crushed him. This fight was not close, not competitive. It was one-way traffic. It was probably worse than the betty odds could have suggested. Jeremy Stevens also missed weight by a whole bunch.

And despite King Green getting some cool performances, pulling off a shocking upset of Daniel Zelluber and finishing him, going out there, beating up Jeremy Stevens. The band still can't get a bonus. Like he's got to get a $25,000 bonus. But did you hear what Dana Whitehead? say i heard he's getting some he's getting a very very nice gift i heard he's getting custom fight shorts in lieu of this bonus he did not get so um there you have it but what are we doing with

priceless priceless that's right priceless yeah take take your take your 100k bonus uh jim miller okay you're not getting i've never seen jim miller's not getting custom shorts yarslav amoslav 100k you know what you got you guys you guys got to buy your own custom shorts king green's getting them for free that's right I hope they're free. It would be funny if they just designed them and said, oh, by the way, you know, can you say, instead of the 20 bucks, sir. What are we doing, King Green here?

What are we doing King Green here? B'Neil Daryush. Why can't he fight B'Neil Daryush? I think after the Salkild loss, a lot of suggestions I got were just like, let's keep using Darius to like, you know, build up in commerce, which fair. That might, like, Binal Darius might just be a number right now that for people to take. But then I thought of, and I was like, okay with that after Perth. But then I thought about after this card, and I'm like, yo, age-appropriate math.

matchmaking. And I can't believe these guys have never fought. They were booked long, long, long, long, long, long time ago. So let's let's let's let's let them do it. I'm giving King Green what he wants. He wants a not some waycona. I'm giving him a not some way. Oh, I still feel like Moikano. They should like rebook the Brian Ortega fight. That's the reason why I didn't pick Moikano.

But yeah, that makes a ton of sense too. Age appropriate. Yeah, I'm kind of, kind of over the Ortega thing until he actually gets into where is he? Dude, where is he? I don't know, man. He's doing interviews with Dominic Cruz. And telling all.

He's sharing everything. So get Moikano. Jed was bringing up during the watch party. He's like, why don't we do King Green versus, I can't King Green fight Connor McGregor in the comeback fight? Why not? I actually love that idea. Or Jim Miller fighting Connor McGregor in the comeback fight.

Like, I love that idea. They deserve it. Way more than Max Holloway. Yeah. Way more. These guys deserve the Connor fight. They have put in so much. They deserve it.

Yes. Let's go to the wild card round. Then we'll turn it over to you guys. We're going to select one fighter we've not match made for yet. We'll matchmake for him right now. AK, who's your wild card fighter coming out of UFC 328? Hold on. I'd respond to a troll in the comment.

I know it's bad. I'm just saying to shut the F up. You know, I'm being very nice. Yeah, please, please shut the F up. I'm being very mature, I feel. You know, I just want to engage in intellectual discussion here. And I feel like that's the best way to respond. No, I'm kidding.

Cooking combat. Shout to cooking combat in the comments. I don't think we're agreeing on anything. but thank you for watching the show. Thank you for sharing your opinion. We need to give some love to Pat Zapatini, Mike. I know it's not the most exciting fighting style. Okay, it's not the most exciting fighting style.

I get it. He's not going to be on a pay-per-view main card any time soon. Well, well, well. No, he ain't getting on the main time. Maybe with this opponent. Maybe with this opponent. Oh. Listen, four straight wins.

Good ones too. Jonathan Pierce, Duranson, Brito, Chepe, and now William Gomi. These are good wins, man. He's a good way. Are you going to do it? Are you doing it? I don't know if I'm doing it. I kind of, I have to shout out to Efraud, one of our regular contributors because he did suggest

this last time. And I don't know if I thought of this only because he suggested it. Let's give him Zalal. Oh, I was not ready for that? Yeah, yeah. I want Sabatini and Yusuf Zalal. Again, for either guy, I think this is great. Sabatini could actually crack the top 15.

I think he's been maybe, like in the UFC's official rankings, I swear he's had a number next to his name, maybe like 13, 14, 15. I could be wrong if he hasn't. This is his chance. It's a lull. Listen, tough fight with Aljo. I still think he's a guy who could contend for the title someday. Back to the drawing board.

Tough opponent. Let's see. Let's see if he can kind of take this weird stylistic matchup on because, yeah, that's got grappling is going to put to the test. That's for sure. I thought you were going to go with the guy that, I thought you're going to go with the guy that I picked to use of the law to fight coming out of that lost Aljo. And the guy that we wanted William go meet a fight.

I thought you're going to go with Aaron Pico versus Pat Sabat-Savitini. I feel like we've matched up Pico a bunch of times. So, no, no, I don't know if we want to see that. Yeah, we gave him Gomi, and then Gomi got booked, and then I went with to Loll. And now that Gomi lost to Sabatini, I thought you were going to go there and have the new thing.

So I'm going with James Miller. What a performance. Just goes out there and just bulldog chokes. Poor Jared Gordon. not giving him Conner McGregor but let me give him a chance to get caught him McGregor

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Wow You're so welcome That fight rules I'm so excited about this Wow. Speakeless. I love it. I'd never considered it.

At any point, during, like, since Michael Chandler has been in the UFC, had not considered it. But, uh, yeah, that is age-appropriate matchmaking. This is what,

watching Michael Chandler fight, Mauricio Hoofy is going to hurt my soul in so many ways. But this fight is just going to warm all of our hearts at the same time. And I think, I think coming off of this result in people being so salty about the, how UFC 328, went through and ended and people's opinions on stuff. We need a Jim Miller, Michael Chandler,

just the idea of that fight floating around the world to warm our hearts a little bit. And that's where we're getting. Jim Miller versus Michael Chandler. So thank you so much. Man, I love Jim Miller. He's the man. He's the best.

Dude is the man. So shout out Scott McCraight, by the way. Member for 41 months. We love you, Scott. We love you, Scott. We love you, Scott. Okay. Let's go.

Bring us your picks. Oh, yes. Let me tell. This is your time. Stop trolling and actually send in five picks. Yeah. Be here for what the show is all about. Here we go.

Let's see. Here we go. Jard. Strickland-Emovoff 2. Shamiyev for the first 205 fight. Shammai? I saw people saying that. Did Ankelyev call for it or something?

He's called out Shemaiah. He did trash talks. First of all, Ankleap doesn't call anybody out. Somebody else. What do you mean? What are you doing for him? What do you mean? I don't know.

If I'm Ali, I'm probably staying away from home. Don't you have. Tire versus the Asu Johnson winner. Volkov Hocit. Lewis winner, WCA, Bledes. Yeah, that makes sense. Brady J.D.M. Green Rebovich.

Gotea Bakeoff. Amasoff, Bonfim, Ball, loser. Dawson Klein. Miller, CDF, Jimmy Suss versus Vieira. Why is it? For Hidalpho? For Hadoffo.

Why don't do we do this thing? What do we do with Mr. Sishikaia? Because I told Jed this on the post fight show, I'm getting Mahamahma Chaya vibes so bad from Jimmy Suss. It's not even funny. He's talented young man. He's talented young man, Mike. But he's afraid to hurt people.

and he's giving guys he should be minus 4,000 favorites over chances to beat him. Yeah. It's very frustrating to watch. A guy that talented, like, struggle against the Jordan Santos's of the world. It's a little strange. He's only 25. He's only 25. He's a little baby.

Go hurt some people. I mean, come on. Go hurt some people. Go break some hearts. Yeah, break some hearts, break it arm. Do something. Like, get people excited. I kind of want, like, if you're invested in Jimmy Suss,

I think I kind of, man, coming off a Contender Series. I want him to lose a fight. I want him to lose his next. Sure. I think he need, if anybody, he needs to lose. He needs to lose. And then I think we're going to get the real James Suss. But we're just, we're just not there, man.

He's got to lose a fight. He needs to be humbled a little bit. And you say this out of love, obviously. Yes. As a guy who I think could be a champion in this, in this division. at some point. Just not now. Like, I have no confidence.

I have no confidence that he, I mean, he beats a lot of guys, but I almost like don't want to give him a step up at all until he shows that he's willing to go out there and hurts some people. So, because we, you know, trust me, I was a guy in a lot of the shows like, not as Muhammad I'm going to win the flyweight belt.

He didn't win the Banim weight belt. When he got signed to the UFC, I thought it was going to be like a clear cut easy, two division champion. And then he decided, eh, I don't want to hurt anybody. He turned in

Damien Maya. Tristan likes Grant Dawson versus Ludwig Klein. How'd you feel about Grant on Saturday, Mike? We saw a little bit, we got a little bit of the whole Grant Dawson experience

and actually quite a lot of the Matiasrabexie experience, not necessarily in a good way, unfortunately. Yeah, that was a super weird fight because Grant, I mean,

Grant came out and kicked him right in the face and busted them open immediately. And then the rest of the first round was like very quintessential grant Dawson had the backpack on which is like okay this is what Grant does and then

Rebetsky heard a bad in round two and like all you have to do is punch him like three more times and you win and Rebeske's like no I'm just going to grapple with him which I thought was super strange and then Grant Dawson went out there and finished him like good win for Grant I like Grant a lot it's probably not a guy who's going to fight for

a title or anything like that but clearly a talented grappler and just hearing the story of everything that happened in his personal life just broke my heart. It sucks, especially the day before Mother's Day. Crazy. To share that stuff, it really sucks. So I don't really even have the words.

I feel so bad for them. And, you know, good on Grant for going out there and fighting after dealing with and getting this news five days earlier. I mean, I don't know how he did it. I really don't. So respect tenfold for Grant Dawson. This is a great win. Rebetsky, like, I don't know.

He's so fun, though, that he might just have a job forever. But you got, like, at some point, like, you have to, you could be fun, but you have to show some sort of fight IQ, you know, and he didn't show it. I, it's super strange, but good win for Grant really needed it. Lightweight's best of vision in the sport. Thank you, Ramon. Winters from 328.

Johnny move off two van Pans two Volkov Pavlovich Pavlovich That's a two I'll say Harmon you missed a two That's a two Brady Mzoff, Green Miller Ataba versus Vittori

Boy that could get real middle weighty We could get super middleweight We could get real polite if you Real quick with that one Take the over Take the over by the way Kosta's not getting knocked out ever Wildcar pick Jimmy Suss versus

Kelvin Gassolam I gasolet But that's not what you're looking for Because I think he would be, I think he would still beat Calvin. I think he'd beat Calvin too. Yeah, that's not the, that's not the learning moment you're hoping he gets in a fight. No, it would just be, we should have already cut this guy, but we'll keep him around for one more to go fight this other kid that we really like. Let Calvin fly.

Like, let him spread his wings outside of the UFC. Let him go to BKFC and fight Mike Perry. Let him go to Misfits boxing. Let him do something else, please. He needs it. He needs it. life. Rob, Brady to Bilal if he beats Bonfim, give Buckley to Milot.

Brady to Ballal if he be, Rob, what are we doing? That's a two. That's a two. I mean, I'm not saying that's a rematch that shouldn't happen, but timing feels weird for it. They're definitely not going to do Buckley, Buckley Malat because Malat gains nothing from that fight. And the UFC has to, they have to push him.

They have to give Malat. They have to give him something big. they have to do like this is it if you're going to make him the the face of canadian mama like you've got to put him into position where where he fights for a belt like you give him a lot jdm give him a former champion give him leon give him i mean colby i don't know if has the same cachet at this point like kamar usu would be perfect but like i don't think they're going to do that nor would i think us would even take that even consider taking that fight so buckley i just I just don't think that's a good, a good one there.

Malat's going to have a hard time finding fights after the way Gilbert framed it. Because Gilbert's whole, I'm telling you, the worst. The worst. Because every fighter's going to go in their mind now going like, boy, I cannot lose this guy. I don't, if I lose this guy, if I lose this guy, if I lose this guy, obviously, and frankly, like I don't, like, Buckley, obviously, he's not as old as Gilbert's, but like we said, he's kind of out of the contender picture now. And I do wonder what a lost him a lot would, like, have him thinking about his career.

He's like, where the hell am I going here? So we would just, my boy, Malas, and he'd catch him a lot of, like, secondhand strays here just because everyone now views him as, like, what's the opposite of a stepping stone? It's like, I don't know. I got to find a phrase for this. But yeah, apparently this career heat check.

It's the look in the mirror. He's the ultimate look at the mirror. He's the look in the, Mike the mirror of Malat. Oh, my. Guys, let's make this a thing. Chat, you know what to do. Tell your friends. Go on your socials.

Mike the mirror, Malad. Yes, you must confront yourself. You're not confronting Mike Malat when you play Mike Malat. You're confronting yourself and your combat sports mortality, apparently. Oh, my God. That's incredible. Oh, boy. We got there.

We got there. It's better than proper. Sorry, Mike Malah. Proper is just no one, no one cares about that name. I'm sorry. John likes Buckley, JDM. Solar Servant likes Brady Jadem. He likes Buckley Malott.

Okay. Amosov versus Medich, Goteer versus Belgory. Ooh, you guys want to want to watch out. The Belgory is like getting slept on, I feel like. I think he is being slept done. He is good. He is actually like a good middleweight. But maybe they want to test a tip of it, though.

So maybe that's why. We just did. And people didn't like it. He got tested by a pretty good guy. And people didn't like it because he didn't kill him in 60 seconds. So then they, they course corrected and they gave Mazi Diaz. And took him a minute,

but he did what they want. Everyone wanted to see him do. So TK. Stan, Costa versus Shima, if winner gets a title shot next year. Maybe. Hammy, Van versus Hork Gucci. We're just giving him. We're just pulling him.

We're pulling Gooch from the cop fight. I think they're with me. They mean like winter loser dry, I assume, after the, after the cop fight. And then Van Pants, right? After Van Pants happens. After Van Pants happens, true. We're looking into the future. We're predicting winners here.

Yeah, that's what people do here. Solar Serpent Shemayev up to 205 to fight Phrashka for the interim belt. Strickland Yovov two, Van Pantosia 2, Tire, versus a cop-hor-guchi winner. Volkov gone two after the Pereira loss. Waldo versus Hokit after Lewis wins. Oh, wow. Some real prognosticating here.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Chad and I were breaking down. If there's any post-fight show, they'll ever top UFC 293 when Sean Strickland beat Israel Adasani to become the middleweight champion. And we've decided that there's only one that can happen

that will ever equal or come close to that. UFC Whitehouse. If all the fun things happen, like Gagy knocks out Teporia, Gondwin's a tepid decision, Doccus knocks out Bo-Nichol, Derek Lewis knocks out Josh Hokit, Amon Sahabi knocks out Sean O'Malley.

If all the funny things happen, and then, you know, Diego Lopez, Steve Garcia, we don't really put into question in this conversation because that fight is just going to rule and everyone's just going to be happy for those 15 minutes or less of that fight's happening. So, yeah.

UFC White House could really do the thing. Duke Baddek, Amosop, Brady, Buckley, or Morales? I'd go, Brady. Who was Morales fighting next? I'm very curious to see who. Like, I don't know. He's got to get an opponent. I'm not sure.

Him and Usman would be perfect. Him and Usman would be perfect. If Usman's staying at 170, he fights Michael Morales or nobody else. This is such classic, like, modern UFC. And it might be Morales's fault, so I don't want to criticize the matchmakers necessarily. I don't know. Maybe it's Morales that hasn't been able to sign on. but like November.

I know it's not long ago, but man, is there anything to be sad about, like guys, like helping guys keep buzz and momentum? Like, they just disappear for so long after these huge wins.

So, like, the man he beat Sean Brady just scored a huge win, right, on a pay-per-view. Where the hell is Michael Morales? Where the hell is he? Yeah,

should be fighting for the belt. That's crazy, man. He should be fighting his Lamak-tub. No disrespect to him Machado Gary, but Michael Boral should be getting the title shot. So you're going to make that monster. of a man, weighing is the backup, make him cut friggin 45 pounds.

Don't do that. Crazy this. Corguuchy would obliterate advances. I'd love to find out. I'd love to find out. I really want to see if I could get there. Ooh, interesting. Cooking Combat, Ochoa versus Kankar, France.

That's a huge step up. He looked great last night, by the way. Yeah. Shout out to Ochoa. DC was just like, yeah, man. He's like Carlos Pratchez out there. like, maybe we're a little soon on that. Maybe a little soon on that comp. Come on now.

And I've been a carpenter. And I've seen college projects compared to Anderson Silva. So are we saying, Ochoa's like only a few degrees of separation away from Anderson Silva? Because I'll accept that. My Peruvian boy, I got a, I got a support. Yeah. He was really good.

That's a lot too soon, though. Yeah. Cooking combat for criticizing my picks all show. And you throw him in there with Kai Carver. He must, he must really appreciate it what Ochoa did last one. I love Ochoa. He's two and two. in the UFC, bro.

What are we doing? What are we doing? You're throwing in there with a top 15 guy? What's going on? I would love to see it. Are we just doing Morales Pratchez?

Is that we're doing? Yeah, yes, just do it now. Kind of I have to? Love it. I don't like that they, I don't like them doing it now. Truly don't.

I know, but I want to see it someday and I'm greedy. You know me. It's like, I love seeing things for no more contender or like with it five rounds of it, but it's just like, if I can get it now,

just give it to me now. Michael wants to see Jimmy Suss beat 30, 27. by Iron Turtle. Hey, hey, listen, Iron Turtle was supposed to be fighting Edmund Shabazzian. If Iron Turtle just didn't go and get hurt, we wouldn't be getting Brennan Allen and Shabazian. That'd be a huge test.

Yeah. That'd be a huge test. What else you got? Cooking combat. Rebetsky versus. Ooh. Okay. This is, this is perfect, by the way.

Respect. What have I, what have I been saying for so, like, this could be the main. event of Dana White's Contender Series season 8 episode 2. Like fights like this should be headlining contender series. Winner stays, losers gone. Ooh. Like that, that's a perfect one for, for the stakes of what I think could improve contender series moving forward.

Because we're seeing, don't get me wrong. There are some, there are some great, there are some very talented fighters to come out of there but we're seeing some of the matchups that are being made for this upcoming season of contender series and we're just like whoa we're not allowing puma nicuda to fight in the UFC but we're going to give this person a chance like there's a whole bunch of that going on already so let's just make it some fun what else we got uh D-Rod versus Buckley from John Schen I don't mind that one yeah D-Rod needs a fight oh I really like this one uh Buckley versus Jacoby Smith I like wow I think we should I think

This is kind of where we should go with Buckley right now. Let's just give him a shot. Jacobi's somebody else. Is he the one? He's not like super young. He's his late 20. Like he's his prime already, right? He's not like super young.

Oh, he's 30. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I guess this is right back in the middle of it. Yeah, I guess you don't really need to slow roll him that much longer. Oh yeah. That makes a lot sense. Love it. Buckley Holland, too.

We called it for this a lot. I think the moment might have passed, though. I think the moment might have passed. Someone message me on Instagram. I can't pull up the name right now because my phone's kind of far away from me. But Mick Debeck Oralby versus Walking Buckley. And I'm just like, man, poor Buckley. He gets Usen, Brady and Oralby and back to back to back fights.

That's not going to go well for him. Unless again, he goes back into the lab with Komaru and really, really tightens up this wrestling defense. But we just have seen no evidence that like it's ever going to get to the level where he can stop the best. Scrapers are 170. So that's unfortunate. I mean, this is how life is. So nothing came with the betting line movement on the

Yeah. Nothing at all. Truly nothing. That was weird. Yeah, Brady said he got a call. I guess the integrity service flagged it. The UFC called Brady.

Y'all good. He said, yep. And they're like, all right, bet. And he went there and Fodd and just started walking Buckley. I hope people aren't getting fake leaks, right? Because that's sort of one of the like the assumptions we assume. Like, you know, for example, that whatever happened with Alex and Hernandez fight.

And he didn't get any trouble because we're thinking maybe someone was just the gym or someone knows someone of the gym and like there's some broken telephone or someone saying, oh, I saw this person walking funny. That gets passed along, pass along, blah, blah. It turns of this like betting virus thing. I hope that people aren't doing this on purpose. I hope there's not someone who has like some small degree of credibility or whatever in his fighting community.

And he's leaking that out to, you know, get the odds to move and stuff. This is really scary stuff, like that these odds can shift like that. And again, it may be nothing. People were saying with Tim Maly and Ersek too, right? It wasn't like Tim Elliott. I don't remember the movement there. I don't think it was as dramatic. I remember for the Elliott-Earthek fight, people said something was up.

And I think the result turned out to be what was sort of initially expected. So, yeah, scary stuff, guys. Be careful out there in those betting streets. I don't know what's going on. The Ersek Elia one was, I mean, it was noticeable, but it wasn't mad. Like, this one was crazy. I looked at it at 1 p.m. after I brought my kid back from golf practice.

1 p.m. Brady was still like a minus 180 favorite. I went and took a shower and came out. like 30 minutes later and Buckley was the favorite. And then I went back and looked at an hour later and Sean Brady was a plus 160 underdog. And then I looked another 30 minutes later and Brady was a plus 190 underdog and they pulled all the props. What happened in that shower, Mike? Who'd you call? Who'd you call? I didn't call anybody.

I said, I said someone, you know what, guys, I wasn't trying to call Mike out. I did, I was hit someone with influence in the MA's fear, you know, could be anyone. I don't know if we got, my best friend. You're not, you're not sending out fake tips, are you in shifting betting lines? You would never, you would never do such a thing. No, I sure. You would never do such a thing. I mean, the amount's money, I bet on these fights,

it's barely enough to get a Dunkin' Donuts coffee. I ain't influence and shit. I can tell you that right now. Armand, do we still get a UFC Japan by the end of 2027? No. I'm also saying no unless they want to pay money and they're not going to pay money. So I'll say no.

I would have to think they would have, if it was in the works, they would have saved Cop and Horgo. I want to believe that. I want to believe they would have saved Cop Horguchi. and when they realized they weren't going to disband, they just said, screw it. Just throw them wherever. Yeah.

Crazy. So it makes me angry. All right. A couple more. Sean Emovoff 2 from Joseph, Van Pants 2, Vance 2, Vak, Vardee, M.C., King versus Money, Pat Sabatini. Kevin Vichai. I thought about it. I knew it would get that reaction, though.

No. No. No. Fichet. Yeah. Kevin, great win in your first made event. You're rapidly becoming a star. You know what we're going to do?

we're going to give you Pat Sabatini at UFC 330 in Philly. How about that? No, no way. Come on now. Come on. Vigeos is like, he's got to be fighting somebody way up in the ladder here. He's probably like two wins away from fighting for a title right now. We can't do that.

Can't do that. UFC Africa schedule? Maybe, maybe not. I go. I bet on Brady. like minus 170 thought what a great line then he goes to plus 200 yeah oh you know what's funny about that i had like the exact opposite reaction to all of this because i was like i didn't know how to go with it i was like bray's gonna win i'm pretty confident in that but like maybe he gets knocked out i was

like but worst case like buckley will win around right so i just bet took a point spread bet on buckley and i was like even with the line movement i was like either way like i'm in they're not going to take this bed away from me. And boy, was I wrong. That was a terrible bat. I mean, just terrible bad. Really bad. Really, really bad.

Mike, let me read one from Instagram. Normally I wouldn't, but this is a newcomer. And they felt very bashful when I told them like, oh, we don't normally read, you know, if you were suggestions online. But this is their first time. Welcome to the party pal. ACM.

They sent in what they're calling an inaugural experimental otno post. Hamzad at Light Heavyweight versus Paulo Costa. Sure. Everyone wants it. Sean Strickland versus the winner of, oh, okay, they're speculating DDP imov at 329. Okay, I don't know, but I haven't heard about that. I don't know.

But guess the winner of that fight. Strickland DDP trilogy, gosh, I don't know. For Joshua Van Pantosha, too, Tatsuro Tire deserves a second shot advance. Oh, due to the slightly early stoppage. In the meantime, I think Lonnie Kavanaugh would be fun, if not then Brandon Roy Vowl, too. I don't know if the timing of those, any of those makes sense for Tyra, but. Kavanaugh-Roy Val makes sense that makes sense Kavanaugh yeah it's not Kavanaugh and

Tyra I don't think I want to see that yet Lastly King Green wants someone ranked He asked for her not to Moikano but I don't think Moikano takes that fight So why not give him But Neil Daryu's a ranked age-appropriate match If he hasn't retired to change weight class ACM we are on the same page You did a great job for your first picks thank you so Okay

I think we have accomplished everything we've wanted to accomplish here Yes Next week show is gonna be kind of weird because we're coming off of two events. The UFC won by far the least important one. Well, we're matchmaking for MVP-M-A. Are we? I mean, all those people are definitely going to fight again.

We will be, yeah, we will definitely matchmake for that. No doubt about it. By the way, I apologize to everyone who watched the Rousie Carrano countdown and saw my face pop up for half a second. I was not aware. Someone, my family said that told me I'm apparently in it very, very and I was like, why do I keep getting included in these things? So what was it?

You just saying it was the fight was insane? It's a half a second. Yes. This is insane. That's it. They could have gotten anybody. I don't know why I get thrown in there. So anyone who watches, do you see me pop up?

I apologize in advance. So this is the MVP card right here. We are doing a watch party next week. Don't you worry. Rousie Corrado, Diaz Perry. Slated as the second to last fight right now as the current lineup sits, I believe. Inganu Linz, Parnass versus Kenneth Cross, Junior Dosatos versus Rebellus to Spain.

That's the main card on Netflix. Prior to that, on the MVP YouTube channel, we'll have Namo Fiziel versus Jake Bobian, Adrian Marius versus Pumi Nakuda, Jason Jackson versus Jeff Creighton, David Woghyn versus Albert Morales. Can't wait for that fight, by the way. I think that's going to be super fun.

Eileen Pereira, the actual sister of Alex Pereira, fighting Jade Mason Wong, who you may know from BKFC. From Canada. From Canada as well. You may know from Canada. And Chris Avila is fighting on this card. It's Brandon Jenkins. That is how it's all kicking off.

That's the MVP card. I hate how this became a real MMA card. I'm so disappointed. I think we did an early write-up, like, what was the best case scenario for this lineup or something we're all just like please just chaos like don't put any like and and you know to some degree they're not like super like super legitimate like oh up-and-coming prospect fights it is like you know chris avila friend of nade diaz stuff like that uh elene podetta

you know good fighter but also oxborough sister like i understand why they put certain names on there but it just feels the cards the cards should have been like six six or seven fights six or seven fights just goofy names like why do why do they try to make an actual unmaid card i don't like yeah i mean i get what they're trying to do some but like parnass is going to destroy kenneth cross yeah he is going to have a highlight reel of all highlight reels in that one. And I like Kenny Cross. Like he's, he's fun.

But he's going to get badly finished by Parnas. JDS despain could be really fun. Like that fight could end very violently or JDS could just tackle them. And we could get real heavy weighty real fast there. Fasil Baby, I think it's going to be really fun. Marais Nekuta is going to be really fun. There's too many fights. You know, you're right.

This sounds like a UFC card. I didn't want a UFC card. There's 11 fights. There are 11 fights. This is like, I feel like I'm at the apex. Speaking of which. It's a six-niner, by the way. Fine.

A six-niner. Fine. Not the end of the world. But hopefully the pacing is not what MVP cards typically are, because then we're going to have a problem. And then over on the UFC at the world's most famous apex. This is just a bad card. Skip this one.

The main event's really good, though. You can't say that, Mike. R. Al, Melki Costa. Love it. Yeah. Sorry, Michael Bisbing. Discard on papers, poop. Come after us.

It's very poop. It's very poopy. Alan Costa is a great fight, though. Really good. It's got stakes. It matters. Duho Choi, Daniel Santos is the co-made event. Malcolm Wellmaker, Juan Diaz.

Fine fight, but okay. Modestis Buccas, Hidalful, Bolato. Timi Quamba, Bernado, Sir Pie. I like that. I like, so pie. That's not bad. Gladysipa, so pie back. Baratendikov, Chaos Williams.

I mean, these are essentially, like, opening prelim fights for any fight night out of the apex. Then we got, boy, Tukotokos versus Yvon Erslan. We certainly do. Tommy Gantz, who I like, by the way, versus Trey Ogden. We got women's ban on whites, AK. You were wondering if we were getting him. I was about to ask you.

Kettlin Vieer versus Jacqueline Cavalcanti. That's not the main card This is a ranked Come on guys Come on That Vieira McAval Conti is following Andre Petrosky versus Cody Brandage

They haven't fought Five times already You're lying This is like a first time They guys have fought No No I don't I don't know

Alice Ardallian versus Pollyanna Viana That's the stuff Fifteen losses by the way Combined between those two ladies 11 and 7 versus 13 and 8 Resilient Mike

Speaking of resilient Daniel Barris with his seven losses taking on Luis Garul and no better way to kick this card off than Nicole Calliari

versus Shauna Bannon that is UFC Vegas was 117? Good stuff. Youser. Good stuff. So I'm into it. I think we know

where you're going to be watching on the main TV but look like I said Costa Allen is a great is a really good fight. That's a good main event so but the rest of this card yowch we'll we'll do some definitely some post

mvp m a prognosticating obviously we're not going to do like uh like a top down of the winners matchups but i think you and i will have some discussion like where do they go from here when's the next time they'll probably have a show like what's what's the future for right we could we could do a little bit of no themed discussion right for rosy i think oh yeah we're it's going to be the story of the week sure we're going to be talking about what comes out of MVP for for a week, more unlikely. My best friends. Macau's after that?

Two weeks after, yeah. My best friend, some would say, we don't even need to do matches for UFC Vegas. What, 170? What is it? Yes. Why is that? I'm just saying,

because he's not do it. There's only so many hours in the day, Mike. There's only so many hours in the day. But the peeps. You're telling me, I'm going to have to come up with a matchup for the winner of Modestus Spokoscus and Adolfo Bellato and Malcolm Wellmaker versus Juan Diaz.

This is what you're telling you. me. Because these are main card fights, I have to match up one of these four gentlemen, or two of these four gentlemen. Yes, you sure do. Okay. You, you, you, you missed out on UFC 328 coverage. So yes, you can make a matter for midasasas fucking McGovernus. This is my penance. You're recompense, AK. You know, you're, you're a heart, you're a harsh master, you know, you're trying to, you're trying to teach me and Jimmy Suss, me and Jimmy Suss, you just want the best for us. Yeah. Okay. Come on, Jimmy. Just go hurt somebody. Please.

Please. I know you got it in you. I know you got it. Did you. Producers playing us off, okay. We're done. Thank you very much. Appreciate you guys. Whoops, sorry. Hopping in. I know we started a little bit late. We had some tech issues. The host site was like, we have so much traffic right now. You wouldn't even believe it. So we can't even let you in here. But listen, whether you agree with our takes, disagree with our takes,

who gives a shit at the end of the day? We're all part of this weird, wacky community of mixed martial arts. And, you know, 328 happened. There's things to talk about for the next few days. And that's really all we ask for with some of these cards is that we can continue some discourse in the days following said event. I don't think we're going to get that coming out of UFC Vegas 117. We're probably going to get it with the MVP card. Jose will be boots on the ground there.

We'll have all your coverage for the MVP card. We'll have everything. And that's it. That's it. So get ready for another big week. And the most important thing of all, ladies and gentlemen, on the Sunday, happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there, all the grandmoms out there. Keep doing the damn thing. You're the true heroes, the true MVP's, and we're out of here. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.