MMA Fighting - On To The Next One: Who Does Lone’er Kavanagh Fight After Career-Best UFC Mexico Win?

Episode Date: March 1, 2026

Lone’er Kavanagh proved once again that fortune favors the bold. Now what does his future hold? Saturday’s UFC Mexico event concluded with Kavanagh putting on a career-best performance to win a d...ecision over two-time flyweight champion Brandon Moreno. Kavanagh made the most of a short-notice opportunity and is now poised to climb even higher in the rankings, but how quickly should the matchmakers push the budding prospect? On an all-new edition of On To the Next One, MMA Fighting's Alexander K. Lee and special guest Jed Meshew discuss what's next for Kavanagh now that he’s landed firmly in the top 10 of his division. Additionally, future matchups are discussed for David Martinez, who defeated tough veteran Marlon Vera in the co-main event, the inimitable King Green after his upset knockout of Daniel Zellhuber, plus we do our best to find dance partners for up-and-coming fighters Edgar Chairez, Imanol Rodriguez, and Santiago Luna, and more. All that and a big assist from the listener picks. Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:11 Welcome, everyone. Welcome on to the next one. Listeners, this is the voice of Alexander Kaylee, not Mike Heck hosting this week. Mike Heck is, of course, in that wonderful, or probably on his way back by now, maybe even back home by the time you hear this, excuse me, from Tempe, Arizona, where he and Jose Young's were covering Real American Freestyle 6, a completely uneventful event where no headlines were made afterwards
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Starting point is 00:02:15 Jed Michoud. You guys have heard a lot from us over the last few days. We did the preview show. Jed did a pre-fight Q&A for UFC Mexico, which is, of course, what we're really here to talk about. Then we hopped on the post-fight show, and now, Jed, here we are. And you're helping me with the mashmaking.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Yeah, I apologize in advance. This is, I've done this show a few times. Listeners, I'm going to give you the worst picks you've ever seen this time. No such thing. No such thing. I don't have. There are no bad picks in the show, Jed. We say that all the time. I mean, there are do-do picks.
Starting point is 00:02:50 But I think I've avoided that. But looking at my slate, yeah, that this is an event that was pretty fun to watch that had some very meaningful outcomes. And then also just plenty of stuff that's like, okay, that happened. Oh, this was very hard to master me for. Especially with, you know, we'll talk about it right at the top. And by the way, guys, Jed and I are, of course, going to be recapping some things we saw, talking about the storylines coming out of the show. But we don't want to spend another hour here than we have to. So if you guys can, please check out the post-fight show we did.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Of course, we'll mention some of the things we talked about already. But, yeah, we broke it down pretty thoroughly. The main event, some of the big storylines from the show, some of the big upsets, some of the more disappointing results, to put it nicely. So we are going to have to go over some of that again, Jed. I'm sorry. But the main event, really. really shook up the flyweight division. We had Lonnie Kavanaugh putting on a great performance
Starting point is 00:03:49 against his toughest opponent he's ever faced by far. Unanimous decision win over the great Brandon Moreno, a two-time UFC flyweight champion. Not particularly controversial. A competitive fight for sure. But not particularly controversial, I think most people would say, Lonnie looked like the better man on Saturday night. So coming out of it, I will ask you,
Starting point is 00:04:09 now that we're, I don't know, five or six hours removed from the preview show, from the post-bite show. Have you decided what you're going to do with young Lonnie in the rankings? Because we realize mathematically, it's an impossible question to answer. Because if you look at the names from whatever, I think like four to 11, a lot of these guys have fought each other. Sorry, four to even outside the top 15. A lot of these guys have fought each other.
Starting point is 00:04:31 A lot of these guys have beaten each other and then lost to someone else higher or lower than them. So there's no like just putting people like, well, this guy beat this guy, beat this guy, and it's easy to order them. I don't know what to do. Lonnie Kavanaugh his last fight. He was knocked out cold by charge. Charles Johnson. So we don't know. We feel like Charles Johnson has been the tough of Dean, but he also lost recently to Alex Perez and has some other weird losses. So Jed, a little ranking show sort of bonus here. What do you think? Have you come to a decision? I have, and I don't even
Starting point is 00:05:02 feel as bad about it as I thought maybe I would. It is undeniably a weird situation, like just how this matchmaking has gone, right? Because Charles Johnson now has wins over the current flyweight champion. you know, a guy who's in the top 10, and both of those wins are within the past, like, 18 months. It is, he is a little bit, as I was doing this, I realized, oh, he's, he's Paul Craig. Like, he's got that Paul Craig in him, where it's like, oh, you remember when Paul Craig actually had wins
Starting point is 00:05:35 over Maguenangeloiv and Jamal Hill, who at the time was a lightweight champion? That's weird. How do we rank Paul Craig? Charles Johnson's in the same spot. Fortunately, I did already have him ranked in our last iteration of this cycle. So he did get a bump despite not competing, just because as I was looking back over it, I made some shifts.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Brandon Moreno took a pretty big drop. I think he dropped like four or five spots in my ranking. Maybe there's only three. But I moved up. I basically solved it by Lonnie gets to go about Brandon Marino. He did beat him because that's a more. recent win, then the Charles Johnson win, Charles doesn't get to go ahead of him. Because also, if we MMA math this out, it just plays out in an endless loop of, okay, Charles
Starting point is 00:06:24 beats him, but then Alex Perez, and then Brandon Royval has to be in front of Alex Pres, and then Brandon Moreno has to be in front of Brandon Reval, and we just go round and round and round. So I dropped Moreno a little bit. Lonnie Kavanaugh moves into number eight in my rankings. Mahama Mahayev, who's not in the UFC, but continues to do outstanding for ACA or whatever promotion he's with. He gets to be in front of Lonnie Kavanaugh
Starting point is 00:06:48 just because he doesn't have the like weird loss of Charles Johnson there. And Charles Johnson stays in the rankings. And so it's not perfect, but the whole scenario is a little bit weird. And it just kind of, it is what it is. Because Osiruamabov has to be in front of Alex Perez. He just beat Alex Perez.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Alex Perez has to be in front of Charles Johnson. It's just sort of how this goes. I can see your temple's throbbing just from having to go over. these permutations again. There's a lot. At some point, I just took a deep breath and said,
Starting point is 00:07:20 Plani Kavanaugh is ranked higher than Brandon Moreno. Brandon Marino can drop a few spots, and that's just how it has to be. And I tried not to... So what have you done for me lately league? It is. And who knows? Charles Johnson could like... I'm sorry, who's who's in my ranking now? Charles Johnson could go up and
Starting point is 00:07:34 beat like Brandon Royval next time, and then now he's in the top 10 again. So it's such a weird, yeah. It's such a weird. Imagine if Charles Johnson fights like Manel Kopp and beats him. Like, I don't know. It could happen. I honestly don't know with this division.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Very fun to watch. I think the results overall, you know, great for, great for the business. I think you always like to see new stars coming up. Tough luck for Brandon Moreno. I really actually thought we'd be matchmaking for him, but we are not, shit. We are a matchmaking for young Lonnie Kavanaugh. I really struggled with where to go. Please tell me.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Really? I thought this was actually pretty easy. Okay. Tell me what you came up with. So I think you can do plenty. because you don't have to move Lonnie Kavanaugh up the rankings, right? Like he just lost. I know this is the biggest one of his career.
Starting point is 00:08:19 But if you want him to fight a little bit back, as long as the duty is fighting his number, and I think that's fine. But they want to promote him. Like, that's why he got this opportunity. You know, reportedly Charles Johnson raised his hand. And instead, Charles Johnson replaced Lonnie Kavanaugh to fight Bruno Silva. So, you know, like they wanted to give him this opportunity.
Starting point is 00:08:42 and he made the most of it. And so I think they are going to advance him. And when you look at the top of the flyway division right now, it seems pretty obvious. Josh Van is set to defend his title against Situ-Tyra at UFC 327. Alessandre Pantosia appears to be next in line, right? I think everybody in the world would believe it is a travesty if when he is ready to return, he does not get an immediate title shot,
Starting point is 00:09:09 given his long reign and given the curious circumstances. that he lost the belt. So that leaves the dudes in front of him as Kiojihor, Gucci, Manel cop, and Brandon Rival. It seems like I feel bad for Minn al-Cop. It feels like he should have already gotten a title fight, but it just, it seems set in stone that Kiojur, Gucci, and Minel Cop are going to end up running things back. And when they do that, process of elimination leaves the other Brandon.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So, Lonnie Kavanaugh, you get to go back-to-back brandons. I know Brandon Reval in a bit of a losing streak right now. Maybe he can get it together, or we are just burying the Brandons at that stage, that era of the UFC Flyway Division. You know, I don't know. I can't remember what my thinking was for going away from that, because you're right, you're right. If you just kind of go down that path, you should land in Brennan Ravel. I weirdly went with Kyoji. I think I so last time killgy fought my pick for killgy was I wanted to seem to get the title shot obviously that's not happening
Starting point is 00:10:16 Obviously he can't just wait to get it no matter what happens At UFC 327 it's not like kill you's just a weird choice Like you said, Pantosia will probably get the winner instead I wasn't sure what to go online because I didn't I did want to go up kind of like you did I didn't want to You know moving back in the rankings against someone in like the 10 to outside the top 15 range I think it would be a fun fight for one thing also I'm just not sure how they're viewing Kyogi. I really don't. I want to believe they brought him back to,
Starting point is 00:10:43 you know, potentially fight for the title. That got screwed up by Pentosia losing the belt. I understand. I know if Pentosia had beaten Van. That's probably what would have happened. But I'm not confident that they're fully committed to it. Like, I just didn't like them, I didn't like them putting up against Al-Bazi in the Apex. I thought that was so pointless. And love watching Kiyoji fight. I hope he got paid very well. But doing that to someone with his like star power and just not letting him even fight in like a Houston or Mexico City or any other. live venue is just stupid. So that to me says, like, they're not necessarily doing things that makes sense for
Starting point is 00:11:16 Kyoji, which is right, which would be a rematch with Kopp. So I think, I wonder if they're using him as a test for these other guys, not necessarily viewing him as a contender right now. Maybe they want to see what happens in Pantosia. That's what I'm saying. Maybe they make Kioji fight again. If Pantosia comes back and beats Taira or Joshua Van, then they can set up Kioi and Pantosia at the end of the year, early 2027.
Starting point is 00:11:39 So I don't know. I stand by my pick. It is a bit strange. It'd be a very interesting fight and a really, really tough test for Lonnie. He'll have one of the craziest, like, early, like, resumes of his career. Right around? Let me tell you why your pick's wrong. I'm going to come on your program and tell you why your picks wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:56 As you should. As you should. Because I don't, I mean, if they make that fight, that's great. There's one glaring hole, and it's what happens to Manel Copp, in this scenario because he can't fight Brandon Reval. He just beat Brandon Reval. I don't think they care about him. So he's just going to not
Starting point is 00:12:15 fight forever? That seems crazy. He's going to fight like Tagir Ulan Bekhov or something or like Man, that would be nuts. That would be so bad. It would be bad. But again, I don't know how they feel about Menel. I don't understand why he didn't get the teloshot.
Starting point is 00:12:31 This was the moment. It seemed very obvious to do it. They had built the heat. I think the answer is they they think Tatsu or Taira can open up Japan and be a big champion for them. I frankly kind of agree. But yeah, it would make sense. I just, unless Manel Cop runs it back with Pantosia
Starting point is 00:12:50 and they make Pantosia fight again, which I just, I do not think will happen. It seems like Cop and Horgoochia are just going to have to fight it out for next man up. And that just leaves Brandon Roy Faw for Lonnie. If they're going... We love it when they go. go back-to-back
Starting point is 00:13:07 brandons, you know? We do love the Brandon Conlon. This is true. If they're going back to like Saitama Super Arena or anything sometime soon, you have to have Kiochi and Manel Kopp too there. You just have to. I'm not confident that they are making that trip.
Starting point is 00:13:21 So that's why I'm just like, I think these two guys are kind of in limbo. I think the UFC doesn't know how to do fun stuff anymore. And so I'm going with a somewhat strange matchup with them. Lonnie and Kiochi. In the co-main event, Jed, we had
Starting point is 00:13:36 young David Martinez scoring a big win. Maybe not the most memorable performance. Maybe didn't put an exclamation point on it. The story of David Martinez's career, basically. He knocked out, maybe he knocked out in like his first or second U.S.ie fight. He did not knock out Rob Fon.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Because it's sub font. Simon Oliver in his debut. That was impressive. Sure. Can you pick Simon Alvara out of a crowd of two? I could not. This one hit in a 50 G. all right it would have been 100 gs in today's economy uh but three and oh in the ufc knocks off a top 10
Starting point is 00:14:13 opponents will have an even higher number next to his name come tuesday it'll be nine he was 10 and del chito was one ahead of him so he's he's climbing the rankings we had him 12 in ours and chito was 11 so pretty much i'm pretty sure uh when we update that day morn kisler's will just be 11 maybe 10 i think we'll take a look at it when we do a full overhaul of the rankings um but yeah he gets a big win. I also found this tough. I don't know. Maybe you had an easier time than I did.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I wanted to give him another, I guess I'm giving him the ranked veteran killer gimmick, which is a very sexy gimmick, as you can tell. I gave him Figgie. I think he fights Figgie. That's brutal. Yeah, I don't know. Again, I'm almost like Patty Pimbleding him. We're like, I'm like giving him this resume where people are going to look at it down
Starting point is 00:15:00 the road and like, oh, he fought guys who were on a combined like 10 fight losing streak. But that's where I went as far as finding someone higher to move him up the rankings. Where'd you go for the doctor? That was a legitimate problem in all of these when I was like, man. It was. Oh, here's a young prospect. All the options are dudes who have won one fight in their last five that kind of makes sense. And I was really trying to avoid that matchmaking as I came through this.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And so I looked at the rankings. I frankly don't love this. But I think it's possible that they might make him fight homeostasis, right? Like maybe he gets Mario Batista. I know Batista coming off a win and asked for a fight with Corey Sandhagen. Maybe he gets it. I have, I don't think so. And I think if memory serves, you all paired up Batista with Amin's a hobby.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah, we wanted him to hobby. And that fight makes all the sense in the world to me. And so thinking of that, not wanting to do Figgy. Sean O'Malley, Corey Sandhagan, Umar are kind of in a who's going to fight who out of that three while ostensibly Marab will run it back a third time with Peoteryon. So all of that's going on and there's an odd man out and his name is Song Yadong and this feels like a perfectly good fight. David Martinez honestly they're kind of similar in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I think Song Yadong is a more explosive athlete, much more finishing capabilities. but Martinez, I think, has more ideas, can do more than Song Yidong can, who is limited in many respects. I'm sorry, your eye favor. Apologies that I said that. Not actually, I will never change my opinion on things. So, yeah, I just went Song Yadong,
Starting point is 00:16:52 but this one was way more difficult than the main event for me. Yeah, and because it, we talked about a lot on the post-fight show, how there was a big theme, on this card of sort of just older fighters, kind of falling short. And, you know, older fighters, several whom happen to kind of be holding onto a ranking. And it's hard to how much they've actually fallen off and how good some of these guys coming up are.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Like, I think we think we think David Martinez is pretty good. I don't know if we rank him as highly as a prospect as we do, Lonnie. But 3-0 is 3-0. Rob Font was also, I think, a very, very nice win. So, yeah, it feels like he has to stay in the top 10 range. But in reality, like in a perfect world, Dea Martinez would still be kind of in the thick of the bantamweight, you know, division fighting like the Miles Johns is and stuff like that. But you can't. You really can't go back with stuff like that now.
Starting point is 00:17:43 So our hands were kind of tied. You could do like Peyton Talbot. And I could see that happening. They don't want to do that. In general, yeah, but like I could see that one happening. Plus, Peyton just beat Sehudo, you know. So, and they had Sehudo ranked, right? That's actually exactly like one of the situations where you're right.
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's better to, like, they should start throwing these young guys against each other. But I think they're so obsessed with the idea of like, oh, we just validated Talbot with the Sehudo win. We just validated Martinez with the Cheeto win. Like, we can't go back now. We can't send them to the middle of the pack now. And it's like, just keep these guys busy because I do not want the Talbitts and the Dave Martinez's of the world to get stuck in this dance of, I'm calling out this whole group of people. No one's giving me, no one's fighting. We don't see him or Talbot for another eight months.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I just, I really hope that doesn't happen. And the UFC is really bad at letting that happen, unfortunately. Once a fighter reaches a certain level of prestige, it sucks. But congrats to Adeb Martinez. I think he'll have a nice fight coming up. King Green, again, no clue what to do here, Jed. I don't know how you feel like. You know what's funny is we talked a lot about Zell Hoover on the post-fight show.
Starting point is 00:18:53 We have aired our grievances. We have agreed. You two will be kept apart going forward. essentially, I think, a gambling restraining order. You are not allowed within, you know, five million miles of each other. I'm not sure how these things work. But you cannot include him anymore. Maybe Benny against him.
Starting point is 00:19:09 That's going to be interesting. I wonder. I don't know who you're talking about. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm already skirting the law right now. I don't know who you're talking about. His name and your friends.
Starting point is 00:19:19 The winner of the featured lightweightout on the U.S. Mexico main card. King Green. Yeah. Oh, King Green. Just turning back the clock. That's two straight wins now. splity over Lance Gibson Jr. Last time we saw him, the man will not go away.
Starting point is 00:19:32 He is MMA. Who the hell does he fight yet? He's fought so many people in this division already. I think this win does not give him like someone in the top 20. I think that would be strange, but maybe I'm wrong. Did you pick a rematch? I think there's a lot of guys he's fought some time ago.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Maybe you could run it back with them. Please tell me your king green pick. I have a pick that I really like, and I have a pick that I really want. And I don't know which one to give you AK. You do both. Why can't you do both? I don't think the one that I want has any chance of happening. But immediately after him winning, and I've made this comparison many, many times, and I'll stick with it.
Starting point is 00:20:11 King Green is Jorge Mosvital, just they're the same dude. Only Jorge Mosvidal had that got to be famous because he, you know, had the four-second knockout of Ben Ascran. Like, that's it. If Ben Ascran doesn't, is not super popular and gets. him over. Hori Mosfidal just is King Green, like a guy who hardcore fans know, who's fun, who's scrappy, who wins a lot of fights and maybe you don't even think he should. But like, Jorge Mosvidal just had the moment that got him over. And King Green had some opportunities for that moment and, you know, could never do it. Like if King Green had just randomly like blown up
Starting point is 00:20:49 as Lamakachev, he would have been there. But he didn't. That's not the world we live in. And so Mossvedol keeps trying to angle to come back. He really wants to be on the White House. card. I don't think it's going to happen. I think that that's just not going to occur for him. But if I got to wave my magic wand, that is the one I'd pick. What I think has a much higher likelihood of happening. And I would also like to see just because it's what do you do with King Green? He's not making a real title run. He's already fought a lot of these dudes. I don't really want to do rematches for the most part. Who has any fault? Like who in this sort of mix of age appropriate matchmaking has and he scrapped with.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Name jumped out, a man who maybe, maybe is fighting at the UFC White House, but it seems incredibly unlikely based on what Dana White is saying. I'm speaking, of course, of my favorite fighter, Michael Chandler. Yeah, this has come up on the show before. Like, this isn't a new idea. I love your Mosvidal pick more. I really, really want it to be Mosvado.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I just don't think that'll happen. How many near misses him and Green have had? Like three? Three. No, it's at least two. It's three. It's three. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:59 This is from, I'm citing Wikipedia right now. First, back in 2012, at a Strike Force event that was to be a headline versus Daniel Kormeer and Frank Mir. Didn't happen. The event was canceled. There was injuries to Meir, I think. And also, I think Tim Candy was in the co-main event and he got injured.
Starting point is 00:22:14 So that event just didn't happen. And then UFC event in 2014, UFC 178. And just didn't, I don't know if Green got injured. Jorge Mosby had all fought. James Krause instead. And then one more time, one more time, like a year later, April 2015, a fight night event in Fairfax, Virginia. How about that?
Starting point is 00:22:38 It was briefly announced, and then Green almost immediately pulled out with injury. So that one, like, didn't come that close. But yeah, this is a real final destination moment. I feel like it has to consummate if that, that's, for lack of a better word, I would love to see this matchup consummate. And I think Jorge would love the fight. Like, I know King Green isn't like the level of name that Masved al Hans for these days, but I think he respects King Green so much and just knows what a great fight that would be.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And again, you could sell it with this history and it's, oh, you'd have these great video packages. Now you really, now I'm really into it. Michael Chandler, I don't mind that either. Again, like I said, I think people have suggested that as a matchup before. Makes a lot of sense. I don't know what else to do with Michael Chandler, so it seems right. If the horror Mastfall would be great, I would love that. I just think it's unlikely.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Well, my pick just sucks now because I just said Matt Frivola. I essentially no storyline. They're within in my rankings like five or six spots in the rankings. Matt Fulah doesn't have a fight. That's kind of fun. It's fun. That would be fun. And sadly, I think maybe more likely if we're just going on like how the UFC does things
Starting point is 00:23:44 and how they book King Green. But I think your suggestions are so much better. So I hope they lean. My first thought was Michael Johnson. Then I realized he's apparently booked if I drew Dober. Yes, yes. Yeah. And I would have loved to see, I was thinking of like true doper running it back with King Green at some point. But again, like you said, he's fighting Michael Johnson. So it can't be done. Support for the show comes from OnePassword. A password manager should be the first security purchase you make for your team. Why? Because compromised passwords are the number one way bad actors attack companies. And small businesses are their favorite targets. But unlike a lot of security challenges, passwords actually have a pretty simple solution. One password lets you manage all your business.
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Starting point is 00:25:28 We're not going to have any fun. Zero fun, sir. Will we have a Friends Forever moment? I doubt it. Let's go. You're better at this than I am. Jed, no, I had, again, because of the weird nature of this card where it was like, you know, pretty young and experienced guys getting main card opportunities,
Starting point is 00:25:46 there's not a lot of data to work with here, not a lot of history. And also not a lot of past opponents like, oh, we can't match them up with these guys. They fought them. It's like, no, they fought nobody. You can match them up with almost anyone. So we'll start. Let's go. Jed, we're going to count down every one of these.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And I think at least once you and I are going to say the same name. Seems unlikely, but okay. Why do you say that? Because I'm looking at my picks and I just don't think you've picked them. Edgar, Edgar Chires, uh, narrow split decision to win over Felipe Bunez. I didn't have a problem with it. but I see the reasoning for Brunas for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Let's go, Jed. All right, ready. Three, two, one, and then the name, okay? Okay. Three, two, one. Joseph Morales. Oh, you just did that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:35 That's why I was like, we're not going to do this because I'm just going to do this. In case field in here, Jed said Im and El Rodriguez. I said Joseph Morales. Yeah, that, okay, that definitely killed. So I guess I don't need to do the gimmick for the next pick, Jed. No, you don't. Joseph Morales, who's currently ranked number 15 in the O.C.'s flyweight division, by it?
Starting point is 00:26:55 I don't... Why are we giving Edgar Sharra as a ranked opponent? He barely beat Philippe Buna isn't very good. I told you, I still don't know, Jed. His only wins are over again, sort of... Well, Zer, Philippi Buna is in the middle, because the other two guys he v. What, C.J. Vergara and Daniel Lacerda, two of, like, the worst recent flyweight's in the
Starting point is 00:27:14 U.S.R. So make him earn a good fight. But that's not where Buna is in the middle. Buna's not in the middle tier. He's right in the middle tier. He's right in the middle tier, and he's right in the middle tier, and he proved that Ed Ghishares is also right in the middle tier by barely winning that fight. Let's add this. Well, I love Joseph Morales, who won a, you know, won the ultimate fighters to get back into the UFC, which is always hilarious to me.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I don't think he's like a hard lock on that 15 spot. You could rank Joseph Morales anywhere from like 15 to like 25, I think, or 20. I guess it's not that deep a division, 15 to 20. So it's not that crazy to throw Chirares in there with them. I have, I have Chira's, I'm sorry guys, I keep missing the pronunciation. In my personal rankings, I have Chiraez at 29 and Morales at 23. I mean, whatever, you know, whatever, I'm just saying. So while we're here, and for Eamol, I went with Jose Ochoa.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I'm just throwing darts here, guys. I'm just throwing darts. I think I put Chiraez and Rodriguez right next to each other in my rankings. Jed, who would you rank Hire's? Who would you rank higher after Saturday? Roger, you guys. I know he had, you know, like, that's the thing. Kevin Borjas is also a dude who's just, like, right in that middle range.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And, yeah, he, there was a real scare there, but Rodriguez Young, worked through it, got a very clean finish here. I mean, just really kind of beat the crap out of Borjas as that fight wore on. I think, who did he call for after this? Did he not make a call out? I don't remember. I don't maybe he didn't make a call out but this pick was more about iminald Rodriguez and his agrily shires i don't feel the need to reward Edgar shires he won good for him but you know i did not leave impressed whereas imnoa Rodriguez i don't want to rush him too soon he's still very young we don't need
Starting point is 00:29:05 to like fire him up the weight class like they have done with tetsuotira and josh van and loni Kavanaugh. So let's let him get some work in against another middle tier guy and the timeline works perfectly. So that's why I picked it. Are you setting up a future climb bet if they match up and even all is like minus 300? I mean probably. Yeah, very like that. You're so crafty. You're always, you're always planting seeds, you know. You're such a craft. You're a crafty devil. But yes, I would love, I can't wait. I got a bunch of listener picks. Chad. I'm very curious to see what they did with Chiris, what we did with Eminal. Like you said, most of them, probably match them up together, but there's just a lot of ways you can go.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Same with our very last pick of the main card. Santiago Luna, looking great. 8 in O now as a pro, just 21 years old. Jed, let's count it down. Okay. Let's count it down. All right, ready. Three, three, two, two, one.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Christian, Ginoes. You did it again. You did it again. You just picked someone from the card. who fought the car. Told you this is going to be a bad show for me. But that's not bad. No, that's not bad.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Well, that's the problem. I was looking at dudes and you said, Sir Hay City, right? Surrey City, yeah. And I was like, honestly, yeah. That's not like, that was one that I looked at. I was like, that could be fine. Sure.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Well, my whole thing was like, Santiago de Luna's 21. And he called for the other Tuporia. He's not going to get him. And that's like, I like it. Call for the dude. set it up down the road, but you're not going to get it next. And that's fine. But he's 21. I don't,
Starting point is 00:30:43 I know he beat Angel Pacheco up and Angel is just very tough. But like, again, we don't need to rush him. And I was looking around it. I was like, who's kind of a middle level dude who he can put some time, some rounds in. And I was like, oh, Christian Canona is actually fits that role exactly well. And what do you know? The timeline also lines up perfectly. So Santiago de Luna, Christian Cananaz. Let's do it. Shout out to Anhele Pacheco, by the way. One of the great chins in M.A. today. I know you saw him on, you know, you're an average watch of the Contender Series. Like, I know you saw him in Contender Series.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Great fight. He, is he one of the guys? He got signed off a loss as well? I know Jose Medina did. I think he did too, right? I think he lost a very entertaining. That sounds like it might be right. Decision, if I'm not going to say.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Lost to Danny Silk. Yeah, very fun fight. But I think he was one of those dudes who didn't get signed. I mean, he didn't get signed in the room, but he stepped in to fill a need later on. Right, did not earn a contract. But yeah, he, oh, later on. That dude, I don't not know how he has not been knocked out yet.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Somehow has zero knockouts in his career and every fight of his I've watched is just him getting straight up battered. Just getting cracked. You got whaled on. Power shots, combinations, and like, and firing back. It's like he's still kind of in it in the third round, like still like fighting back. I'm like, this guy is inhumanly tough. And that's going to give him like a very long career in. in May if he wants.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Dude, Santiago Luna landed 131 significant strikes. That's a lot. And I'd bet like 85 of those were to the head. More, more, like 90. Almost certainly. Look that up. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Oh, 97 of them were to the head. Oh, my God. That's so many times getting hit in the head. In my life, I've been hitting the head maybe like 30 times. That's good. Your brain is healthy. Yes. 97 punches to the head in one night.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And again, if you've seen, Pacheco's other fights. That number is definitely north of like 400, I think of this one's weird. It's not that's nice, but I'm sure they'll keep him around. He's fun. Yeah, so I went Surrey City, just, you know, trying to build Santiago Luna more. Against Danny Self on Contender Series. Now, that fight was super fun. Really fun. He landed a bunch of himself. 204 against Calvin Lachran, 140. Against Santiago Luna, 131. So my quick math of this is 400.
Starting point is 00:33:08 and 75 significant strikes in three fights. Absorbed. Absorbed. That is a lot. And never been K-O'd. He's never been K-O'd. It's a lot, a lot. He's averaging like a hundred and, what's that?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Like 150 some odd strikes to the head or not to the head, but that's a lot, man. It's not good. It's tough. I hope, I hope, I hope Ann Halpecheco wins like one or two fight of the night bonuses and just I hope he wins a fight just to say he did it. Gets a bonus.
Starting point is 00:33:38 This man needs 100K bonus and just sit back for a while, man. He's tough. But again, all the credit to Santiago Luna, a very promising guy. And let's keep pushing along. And Mike, Mike. I got a lot more hair than Mike does. Jed, I actually like your strategy here because if this card, the booking of this card is an indication, we might not see Edgar Chires or Christian Quinonez or some of these guys
Starting point is 00:34:05 for like another year until the next time they go to, like, Mexico. because that was... It's either next year, Mexico or Noche. Yeah, whether it's because of visa issues or they just forgot some of these guys existed. Like, this is the first fight in a while for a lot of people, so you're probably on the right track. I'm going to confess something right now. I totally forgot to make a wild card pick, but I'm going to make it live while Ched gives us his. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I thought I just knew what your wild card pick was going to be. Well, you know, I'm going to go with Rahina Tarin. Correct. Yes. And I just thought I knew where you're going to be. going to go there. So not who I chose. I debated because it seems like on the preview show and a little bit on the post show, we lamented the fact that Eileen Perez and Mason Jason is a top 10 women's bad and weight fight and the UFC buried it on the prelims like they do all women's band and way fights and they're not doing anything to grow this weight class. And I'm also part of the problem because I'm not going to pick the fight for. Eileen Perez coming off that. Like, I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:35:12 But I did feel guilty about not doing it. I am fascinated where Brandon Moreno goes, but I ultimately just had to do the bit. There were a couple dudes that I'm super high on. We already talked about him and all Rodriguez coming off this card. And Damien Pinas is the other man. He opened the show. I am super, super high on this guy coming off Contender Series.
Starting point is 00:35:38 One day he and a table of goatea are going to hit each other, and it's going to be just beautiful violence, but that day is not today. We shouldn't do that too soon. Let's savor that moment. And instead, I was trying to figure out, again, I don't want to give him somebody like Marc Andre Barrio, you know, like who's lost a million fights in a row.
Starting point is 00:35:59 That's not what we want to do. So taking another guy off, Continu Series, guy who's coming off his first loss, who I frankly think Damien Pinos is much better than but it will be a good workout fight I'm going Marco Tullio for Damian Pinas I was about to kick you off the show because I thought you were going to say Torres Fenni
Starting point is 00:36:21 No no no I was going to kick you off the job But I was like I don't think Torres Fennie's still in the UFC I don't know if he has been done I just don't know if the UFC's going to keep him around But that is a fight that could happen because they might be like, let's just, let's get Torres gone. And Damien will get him gone. Oh my.
Starting point is 00:36:43 The man loses one fight and we turn our backs on him. Well, also the problem is Torres Vinny, I think is going to be out for like a year because I believe his knee got super jacked up. It wasn't good. He probably won't. He probably will be back for a while. Luckily for the rest of the middleweight division, let's put it that way. Lucky for Davey Pinos, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Yeah, sorry, Jed, what was the name? Marco Tullio. Marco Tulu. Yeah, okay. I like that. Yeah, it makes sense. I have them very close together. Don't stando bang.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Don't standle bang. Marco Tulio, probably going to go down. Yeah. Yes, love what we saw from Damien. Yes, we need the Atiba-Go-Tia fight sometime in the future. Sometime, it has to happen. Mike, just like, Mike, what am I doing? I'm not Mike.
Starting point is 00:37:25 You're not, Mike. You're a, Jed. This is very unprofessional. Jed, also a great friend of mine, by the way, we should say one of my best friends, I would say. Yay. We also need to see Rahina, Toreen, and Carly Judis someday. Not next.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Not next. I know you are very confident that Ms. Jadis will harm. She could chew everybody up in this white class. We'll see. We'll see, man. I think Toreen is for real. I think she did great again going to an M.A. flight on short notice.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I guess it wasn't that different from, you know, she was training for a Maita bout. That was supposed to happen on Thursday. because I don't recall there being too much grappling in this fight. Actually, most of the grappling wasn't, there wasn't real grappling, but there was like clinch work and stuff, and it largely seemed initiated by Tareen. Yeah. So, and it was at 130, so she wasn't even in peak shape.
Starting point is 00:38:21 You know, she just was essentially not off the couch because she was going to fight in a different kind of combat sport, but, you know, different prep for Muay and Mui and everything else. So it actually looked great. Got herself 100K. I do feel the need to matchmaking for her. Not Carly Judy's next. Let's give her.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Unazi Dupin. If you guys are like, who the hell is Unazy Duman? You may remember she scored a stunning upset where she was a monster underdog against Shannon Clark on the Contender Series. Vicious first round knockout. Unfortunately, this kind of like
Starting point is 00:38:51 raised her profile, I think, to a level that she's not actually at yet. Sure enough, fought Carly Judice in her next fight, Jedd, and was annihilated, not remotely close before getting killed by a headkick. and then they were going to throw in there with Kennedy Freedman,
Starting point is 00:39:07 who I think was going to be like a minus 600 favorite going to that fight. So I guess I'm with the UFC. I guess is what I'm using Yonaisi Dubin for. But at the same time, I don't put Toreen on the same level as a prospect as I do, Carly Judice and Kennedy Friedman. So I think this is fair matchmaking. I don't think I'm just like setting Yunazi Dubin up to get crushed. She will be a huge underdog.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Toreen will be a huge favorite. But there's not a lot of depth in this division. I mean, you've got to find a use for some of these fighters. So maybe this is Dubin's role. And maybe Dubin pulls off another crazy upset. I don't know. I don't know. So I think this is, this makes a ton of sense.
Starting point is 00:39:45 And it's good, good pick. Thank you. No notes. Hold it out of my butt just now. All right. I mean, it's terrific work. Thank you. Chad, I'm going to go to the people real quick.
Starting point is 00:39:55 We're going to share our thoughts together on some of these. I didn't have a chance to vet them, but we'll go, go through these somewhat quickly. going to try to avoid repeating a lot. Obviously, a lot of people are going to have some of the same picks. First, let me give a hearty welcome to the party pal to a couple of people here. First, Jeffrey Rogers, U.S.A.F, a first timer. I'll read all your picks. Pinas versus Dumas.
Starting point is 00:40:20 That's kind of doo-doo because I think Dumas is supposed to be fighting Jackson McVeigh. But I don't know if we put that in M.A.F.F.com. I don't know if we confirmed that ourselves, but don't worry Jeffrey, it is your first time. Eileen Perez versus Ketland Veera, sure. I also heard a Ketland Veera rumor. So, I'm sorry, guys.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Like, this is, again, I'm not giving DoDU because we have not confirmed some of these. I believe Ketland is supposed to be facing Jacquelinee Cavalcante in May. So, not doo-doo, but just keep me guys updated. Tereen versus Juliana Miller. Yes, that also makes a lot of sense. Miller's, she's kind of tough, though.
Starting point is 00:40:57 She kind of gave your girl Judice a bit. Yeah. She's not a walkover. It's not a walkover. That might not go well for Treen, if I'm being honest. She's still like fairly young. Getting better. Getting scrappy.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Santiago Luna versus the aforementioned Simon Olivera, Emanol, and Honsung Park. That's a tough test for Eamol. I don't know. That's a big step. He's good, though. He's talented. Martinez versus Zhabi and Kavanaugh versus Erseg. Don't need to throw him to the top of the vision.
Starting point is 00:41:22 He still needs some seasoning. Man, after you fight Moreno, then you fight a guy who a Marino recently, I don't know. Again, it's possible. I just, um, not entirely sure. Also, welcome to the party pal, Brian Head, a long time, listener, first time submiter. What an odd card to hop on and hoping to avoid any do-do and make no promises. I'm rematch the world's been claiming for.
Starting point is 00:41:45 How about Jed, King Green versus Draccar close to? We all remember UFC and Fox 31 from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, of course. Let's run it back. Does that tickle your fancy at all? No. I'm good, never watching them fight again. If it happens, it's fine. But like, we don't have that many King Green fights left, man.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Let's have some fun with him. Dare to dream. He might have another 30 times, dude. Probably. We probably don't have that many left. Dare to dream. It's like I said, he's the parallel Jorge Mosvidal and the like 100 times better, respectfully, Charles Bennett.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I don't accept you respectfully. As you tell me when King Green has had a, a man climbed on him like a tree and he spins around in circles and literally throws him into the cage. When King Green's done that, you can come talk to me. You know, it's sad. People are going to see that clip now these days and go like, oh, that's AI. That's AI. It looks fake. It looks fake. You tell me when King Green knocks out Vandale-Silva at the height of Vandali Silva's powers. You tell me that. I love this matchup. Actually, I wish I'd thought of this. David Martinez versus moving up to Bantamweight, Kai Asakura.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Oh, that's a... Yes. Maybe a small quibble, and that's a really big opportunity for Kaihasekura, who has lost both of his fights in the UFC. Hey. I don't know. That is a fun fight, certainly. Lonnie and Alibe Iduris, that's a little too far back for me.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I know that's a big drop back for Lonnie after... Hey, you just beat former two-time champion Brandon Moreno. Would you like to fight this guy? No. Thank you. Tough runner-up, recent winner. One of his first UFC fight, L.A.B. Finally, Armand versus himself.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Armand Srukian versus himself. Jedd, I think Armand's supposed to find out that the enemy was the enemy all along. Now, that is in fact true for Araminsurukia. Yeah. Yeah. Tough, tough scenes. Willie Beeman says we need King Green versus Michael Johnson next.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Jed, you said, you explained by that. happen just yet. Michael Johnson does seem to have a fight lined up. Zach Schultes also likes Lonnie and Steve Erseg. Okay. Martinez, Haoni, Barcellos. I'm just going to, I'm not going to read all these.
Starting point is 00:44:13 But this is good stuff, guys. I'm keeping track. And always remind me in the future, listeners, if you feel like you nail the pick and you want points. I know we haven't been distributing points a lot these days. There's just so many picks now. It's a bit hard to keep track. Emanal versus Daniel Bades.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Santiago Luna. Cameron, Simon. Yeah, we're throwing darts here, people. We're throwing darts, let's be honest. This is a dark card. Yep. Four Corner Sports says Lonnie Kavanaugh, Manel Kopp. We didn't even really consider this one, Jed.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It wouldn't bother you if this was made. Honestly, if they made this, that'd be super fun and terrific. I did not consider it at all, but if this is what happens, yeah, man. At that point, then it's like, what are we doing with Kioji? but Keoggi can fight Brandon Roval and that's not a problem. Give me the opening lines for Kavanaugh versus Kopp. Might be a stone pick-um, honestly.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I was going to say, is there any chance Lonnie's favorite? No, Lonnie would not be favored. I don't think Lonnie would be favored. It might be a pick-um. I mean, he's coming off a great win, but he did just get got. I know Kops on a heater.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I mean, Kopp's probably like a minus 150 favorite. That sounds right. I think you're right. A little bit of a favorite. I think Koppel has a much bigger name. but you're right based on like the performance from Lani like I think there has to be some respect there Moreno versus Charles Johnson if he beats Bruno Silva in March yeah I actually would love to see that I just think that would be a great great fight but again we just don't know with Charles Johnson he can beat guys who are going to become like future champions and top five contenders and then he loses weird fights maybe to Bruno Silva what else we got here Chito Vera versus Jonathan Martinez at this point find anyone with the last name Martinez and just book Vera against the said person is this a thing
Starting point is 00:45:59 thing? Hold on. David Martinez. What are I missing? I don't get it. Is this not the only Martinez he's fought? David Martinez? Yep. Best of my knowledge. It starts with what? Jed, it starts with one. Look, the journey of a thousand miles starts with but a single step. He's fought a Hernandez. He's fought a cruise. One Martinez. I don't know this gimmick, but okay. King Green versus Dan Hooker. They were supposed to fight December, 2023. Yeah, they'd never made that up. They've just never fought. I guess not. I hadn't thought about that.
Starting point is 00:46:35 That's not a terrible matchup. That's crazy. I just assume they fought. Love giving King Green another run at the top 15. It's just we got to let some new names in and not do this, but that fight is fun, so if they go with that, I would have no issues with it. Four Corner Sports mentioned
Starting point is 00:46:53 Eileen Perez, Tracy Cortez. A lot of people were bothered by this call-up, but this isn't new. They've kind of been beefing for some time. I feel like this was suggested a long time ago that this is the most natural call-out because they apparently have like actual beef and she just wants to settle their beef. Well, people are saying, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:08 Cortez is a contender at 125, but it's not like she's like a top five contenders. She's not a real contender at 125. Well, I, that's well, not my words, Jed. But it's no problem for her to move out 135. She's competed at 135 several times and certainly I think would for a grudge match
Starting point is 00:47:24 with Eileen Perez. So yeah, I actually hope that's the way they go. I'm not super sold on Eileen Perez as a compelling contender at 135, I'm being honest. She missed weight for one of those fights during this win streak. It's not like the win over Macy Chess and like set the world on fire. So yeah, I love the idea of her fighting Tracy. I think it's... But she dances, AK, she dances.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And very well, might I say, very well. I was watching with my wife and she was laughing her ass off. She thought it was hilarious. And she does not watch it. DGB. Luna versus Miles Johns. Again, that's the range. him and David Martinez like should be in.
Starting point is 00:47:57 That makes more sense for Luna, I think. Green versus Terrence McKinney. Terrence McKinney has to have a fight. No. I always always assume these points. I don't know. You're better at this than I am. Yeah, I'm just thinking of
Starting point is 00:48:09 I'm just quickly topologying. Kyle Nelson, how could I forget in Winnipeg? Of course. Oh, in Winnipe? Oh, in Seattle. Excuse me. The Winnipeg of the United States.
Starting point is 00:48:21 The Winnipeg of the Northeast. No, no. So there we go. A little bit of doo-doo there, DGP. David Martinez and Umar. I mean, I've heard of worse things, but Dave Martinez is simply not going to win that fight. So I don't know what we're accomplishing
Starting point is 00:48:42 other than staying busy, but, you know, if you have to, it's not the worst fight of all time. Umar is a weird, weird guy. Not weird guy, like weird, I think, how the matchmaker's, I think, kind of utilize him. he was supposed to be the champion and then he was not and it has offset his career immeasurably uh hold on i see i have a either or pick here i don't remember these guys are
Starting point is 00:49:08 booked to fight they no they're not okay weird um calum calum says cavanova's car france or amabaya is there a rumored fight i don't know about anyway you got to pick one calom they're not fighting each other uh david martinez versus cori sanhagen geez louise i don't like that for david martinez right now um i can think umar is more Not like a better chance of winning, but I think a less chance of him getting destroyed. And you gain a lot more, too. You gain a lot more from RoMaria. Also, I think that just has a 0% chance of happening.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Corey's either going to fight Sean O'Malley or he's going to fight like Mario Batista. We called for him despite the fact that I don't think he's going to get it, you know. King Green versus Alexander Hernandez. I actually like that. I just don't know what's going on with Alexander Hernandez's whole thing. Yeah. It's a totally fine matchup. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Just don't know his health. He's been in limba. No, health, or whatever. Investigation. Yeah, whatever the thing was. Yeah, well, like, didn't. Yeah, no mind. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Carry on. Picks by Frod. Okay. Moreno versus Kai Kar, France, three. I don't know. Wasn't their second fight pretty recent? It wasn't like that long ago. A couple years ago at this point.
Starting point is 00:50:21 It was a couple years? It was? What am I thinking? I'm thinking of the Steve Bersack. I'm here on Basi, where he's recent wins. Car Franceswell. Yeah, yeah. Because, I mean, that was his interim title win.
Starting point is 00:50:30 So it was actually a stretchback for Marino. Okay, I'm into that. You can do it, but, yeah. Cheeto Vera versus Bryce Mitchell at the, I'm going to say, I'm adding this apart on at the White House. Isn't Bryce Mitchell at 145 now? Yes. I don't remember if he dropped and stayed or what. Maybe Cheeto Vera should go up.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Cheeto Vera's big dude, but that's not the worst fight you can make, however they go. with it. I don't know if Bryce is staying at 135 or if she doesn't want to go up, but okay, I can get behind it maybe. Rehina Terrine versus Alice, Alice Pereira and Haley Cowan, this fight did not even know what's happening. UFC Apex event in April. Okay, sure. That actually makes a lot of sense. That's probably exactly the right level, but it's not aware the fight was happening. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. That's, man, that's not going to be a good fight. John Ray. The losing of that fight is among the war fighters in the promotion. John Ray says Pinas versus Tudorovich.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Again, we're really giving like, guys, we cannot just give Pinas the Attape Gotea. He fought at Tadorovich, right? I'm not crazy, right? That sounds right. I'm also getting confused. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:51:44 You kind of could just be like, all right, you're just going to fight the exact same dudes. The problem is Jose Medina is probably not going to compete in the U.C. anymore. But you could be like, give him Robert Valenti. Yes. Sorry, that's where I got confused.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Tudoravis was on the list I was looking yesterday of people who have beaten up Jose Medina. I'm sorry. So that's not the very good. I got myself confused. Yeah, Pina Sturvich, great. Terrine versus Julius Stolierenko. Like, I actually thought about this. I'm still like, there has to be a chance of Stolaryanko is not on the roster, right?
Starting point is 00:52:14 I just don't remember her getting released. Truly no idea. Okay. Gondra versus Pulaev. Oh, I like that. That's nice. That's good. What else we got here?
Starting point is 00:52:25 Martinez versus Figi. That's what I said, John Ray. That's what I said. Merno versus Tim Elliott, Kavanaugh, and Temarov. Okay. Very dangerous fight. Very dangerous fight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Hesi. I'd love to know your thoughts on this, Jed, because it involves your favorite fighter. Well, your other favorite fighter. King Green and Brian Ortega. Welcome to the lightweight division. That's not bad. I think because the UFC loves Baran Ortega, they're probably going to give him somebody with a number. But that's not a bad fight at all.
Starting point is 00:52:56 King Green can win it too So that That's I think that is the best idea I've heard from the listener picks at this point in time Wow high praise he's he well done How do you feel about his suggestion of or their suggestion of Zell Huber and umru Megammedov saying Zellhuber obviously not UFC caliber of this date Ouch
Starting point is 00:53:17 PLFL can sign he's a ffo guy PLFL can sign Megamadov after he's cut Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm reading this wrong. He's saying Zell Huber is going to get cut and that PFL will sign Zell Huber to fight this guy, Umru and Magamatov,
Starting point is 00:53:35 after he's cut by the UFC and feed him to feed him to Amru to try and build their Uzman replacement once Usman's contract ends. Look, Magumedov's great. I don't know who you're trying to book him against. Zell Huber. Who is that? I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Oh, sorry. There was, yes. You know what? There was a space. There was like a weird void in the middle of the main card that I feel like didn't, maybe didn't register with you. I just don't know who that is. I can't say I've ever thought about that person. Sorry, Hessey.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Sure. Good, good pick. We were doing so well. Great pick. Barry O'Reilly, Damien Pinos, and Nick Klein, I think, has been released. I swear I saw him fight for another promotion or something. No, he was scheduled to fight Donnie. Johnson, November. Okay, sure. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Great. Does we love this? This is the kind of match where you like. Perfect. What else we got here? Santiago Luna, Malcolm Wellmaker. Yeah. Okay. All right. I mean, if Luna wins, Wellmaker's done as a contender. Yes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:43 If Rollmaker wins, Luna's set back, but he could recover. I've heard of worse things, but I don't think that fight makes a ton of sense for Wellmaker, but maybe it does. I don't know. Eileen Perez and someone whose commentary, you enjoyed very much at a Real American Freestyle, Juliana Pena. I actually think from a straight up promotional standpoint, that fight makes a ton of sense. If I had done Perez, that's what I would have gone with.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I think Pena should take it because Pena needs to fight somebody and she can beat Ayn Perez. I think she can beat her at least. But Perez didn't call for it. And I don't know that the U.S. is going to be like, let's do this thing. So I don't know if it happens. but I think like if we are just, how do we build this weight class with a surging person? Give her a former champion very tough. Like if she wins that, then she's just fighting for the beltnecks.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Like that's traditionally how this game works. I don't think it's going to happen. I'm really fascinated to see what they do whenever Pena decides to fight again because they could really chop her against anyone in the ranking. They could use her. She's only fought like two of them. Yeah. And Barry also likes Dea Martinez, Figgie and Lonnie and Manil Kopp. left lane what's up left lane normally sends to Mike he was very aware that Mike was on
Starting point is 00:55:57 oh he just messes me on Twitter to say he messaged me on Instagram okay thanks uh thanks left perfect segue perfect segue to the Instagram fix here we go gosh so many these guys are so good the people who send in picks are so so so good Kavanaugh versus rival feels like something that will happen Jed you're right good logic Vera Marlon Vera versus Tuporia Alexandra Tuporia I'm guessing Correct. Must be. He who shall not be named versus an apology video to Jed?
Starting point is 00:56:29 That's not coming anytime soon. Fair. No, it's not coming. I don't demand an apology video from he you shall not be named, but he's just dead to me. Left Lane also mentions Presbyn versus Pena, but also Pennington. He says whoever's back first, whichever one of those two is back first of them and there with Prez. I think that's very possible. Tarene versus Veronica Hardy is Veronica Hardy.
Starting point is 00:56:52 booked. Is she not fighting in Winnipeg? No, she just beat Brogan Walker. Okay. Pinaas versus Dante Lockjaw Johnson after he fights Cody Brundage. Hashtag. Hashtag Pinas versus Lockjaw. Mm-hmm. I see what he did that. Oh, yes. Now I do as well.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I was able to suss that out. Okay, thank you, left lane. Well done. Very new house, Lonnie Royval, Brandon Marino, Alex Perez, two? Two, right? Two, I think. I'm just trying to see if there's anything new here, guys. Again, we appreciate everyone's pick.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Santiago Luna, Alex Sanchez, DeBore. Like you said, he wants it. Rion, Condra, and Jordan Santos. Eileen Al-Donna. That's not too bad. Javier Reyes versus Yiza. Just want to shout out Javier Reyes. All right, guys, thank you.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Christian. Oh, sorry, Christian. That's my family. That's my cousin, Christian. going on my DMs guys. And Robbie Ryan, I think another Mike Heck guy, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, just doing a White House card. You feel like talking about a little White House, Chad?
Starting point is 00:58:03 Look, I mean, this is the last time we'll get to spec on it. Dana White says that he will reveal the White House card this week. And since we know how this works, he will reveal it on Friday night at 1138 p.m. Stop it. Please don't say that. Jones versus Pereira I still I know we had an update today I still think it's happening
Starting point is 00:58:28 I've changed my mind overnight I've changed my mind At the very least do you think he's for sure fighting oh well if he's fighting the white card You're assuming it has to be Pereira and no one else There can't be any other There's no other fight for John Jones to fight Like Tom Aspon theoretically but Tom's not fighting
Starting point is 00:58:43 eye injury John just won't fight Tom He's never been planning to fight him it's a perfect matchup in that I think it is genuinely interesting like I'm fascinated by it in many ways it's also the perfect John fight of like his the John Jones stands will view this
Starting point is 00:59:01 as the greatest thing of all time and the John Jones anti people will be like yeah this is just sort of par for the course for the end of his career where he has cherry pick matchups avoided the tougher ones as best he can and cultivated a career perspective that he wants and he's done it again.
Starting point is 00:59:21 If you guys don't know, by the time this is out, you've probably seen on him in and finding.com or whatever, but John Jones doing a publicity event, a meet and greet with fans on, I think Saturday night at a casino in New Hampshire, revealed that he is still in negotiations with the White House or with the UFC to fight at UFC White House. He set it with a smirk, so, you know, kind of take that for what you will. But apparently the severe arthritis in his hip is, not a problem if he gets to fight the White House. And if he's going to do that, he fights Alex Pereira.
Starting point is 00:59:53 This, of course, comes on the heels of Alex Pereira vacating his heavyweight title without a fight being announced. And while I immediately was like, well, that just means he's going up to heavyweight. Now I think the reason they haven't announced that Alex Pereira is fighting Cyril Gaon for probably the vacant heavyweight belt. They probably would strip Tom is Alex is leaving one way or another. and either he's leaving to fight John Jones at heavyweight and then do something else, or he's leaving to fight for the heavyweight title, and they are dotting the eyes and crossing the T's. But I think John Jones, Alex Pereira, is happening at the White House.
Starting point is 01:00:31 That's where I'm on that corner now. I should have known when Dana White said it's a billion to one chance that they booked John Jones for the White House card. I should have known that meant. That just means it's happening. It's happening. I don't know why I took that at face value when it happens. It's the only thing that makes sense for John Jones to come back if he is fighting at the White House.
Starting point is 01:00:46 if he's honestly it's it's one of two fights that makes sense to me to headline a White House car it is a big grand spectacle you know with who many people consider to be the greatest fighter of all time at the biggest
Starting point is 01:01:00 most spectacular event the UFC will ever put on it makes sense like you don't have to like John Jones and I have made absolutely no bones about it I do not but like this is it would be fitting I have said for months that it was so
Starting point is 01:01:16 stupid that the UFC has had this line that they don't just come out and say, yeah, we're going to do this fight at the White House. Both fighters want it. A lot of the fans want it. Not all the fans, but a lot of fans are interested in it. Just do it. If they ultimately do go with this, it will be one of the few times this year where I've been like, oh, they did the right thing. Good, good on the UFC. Yeah, I kind of want to see it. But I also just don't believe a word John Jones says either. But we've had people reporting that this. is obviously very likely in the works. And just logic.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Logic would tell you they need a headliner for the show and they need to announce something this week. And they need a real headline. They need a real headline. I've said for weeks, if the headliner is Ilya Tupori versus Justin Gaci, that is garbage. It's nonsense. Like that's a terrible headliner for an event of this magnitude.
Starting point is 01:02:06 You need something that meets the moment culturally. And yes, Ilya Tupori is a substantially better fighter than John Jones is at this stage of his career. that's not what this is about this is about spectacle and grandeur you know this needs something
Starting point is 01:02:22 with that hutzpah and if it's not going to be Connor McGregor and the reporting seems to suggest it won't be it's going to be John Jones I've come around on this and maybe I'll look like an idiot in a couple of days but that's where I'm at now Robbie Ryan also suggests Harrison versus
Starting point is 01:02:37 Nunes yes I think that'd be a very logical Kulman if they're able to make that happen but we don't know if Harrison will be ready by then right I think we're hoping. I think we're optimistic, right? But that is, yeah. The general idea, my guess is that she won't be, but I think she is obviously going to try very, very hard to be ready by then.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Machochev versus Michael Morales. I don't think that's happening. I think we are getting Makachev and Ian Machado-Gerry at a separate show. I just don't think they're going to load that under the White House card. Yeah. There's no point to put that at the White House. Robbie, this is where the idea start to fall apart. McGregor versus McGregor versus Diaz 3.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Again, that's its own card. And that would headline over Jones Pereira. Like, you just can't. Rumors and reporting suggest that should Connor McGregor be returning, it likely is looking like International Fight Week as his own thing. He needs his own thing. Lumping his return in and a T.S. I think it would be cooler.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Oh, in the White House? Yeah. Yeah, I think it'd be cooler for them to do that at the White House with John Jones. And really, like, again, what I've said from day one is don't put real title fights on the White House card. like put cartoon shit on the White House card. And now I think it would be awesome, but that is just not what the UFC is going to do. I understand that at this point.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Robbie also suggests. Colby versus Nick Diaz. I don't think Nick is really ready to fight again. I know I wrote up like, you know, sounds like he went to rehab and like he's sorting things out in his life, which is great. I just don't know if that means
Starting point is 01:03:59 he's ready to actually compete in a pro fight again, if ever. And that's fine. If Nick Diaz never fights again, that is perfectly fine. Also, if this goes with his Diaz-Megger plan, I believe the Diaz brothers are pretty staunchly opposed to fighting on the same card together. I think they like to focus on either guy when it's their time to go. So that just wouldn't happen.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And Derek Lover is Josh Hokit. There you go. Yep. That is very likely, I think, actually, going to happen at the White House. I mean, if Josh Hokit beats Curtis Blades, but he's got to get past Curtis Blades first. That's right. They're giving it, man, they're giving him the blades test. Damn.
Starting point is 01:04:38 I totally forgot about that. So a little bit of doo-doo. A little bit of do-do there, Robbie. But thank you for the Whitehouse ideas, though. Definitely got us thinking. I mean, honestly, we probably should have just made this a White House hot-no, since the fights are going to be announced this week. This is true.
Starting point is 01:04:51 There it is. How dear. We missed that opportunity. No, we are going back to Mexico. I got three emails here. I got to read out, and then we'll look ahead to next week. Jay Donagie, what is up, my friend? King Green Nazim Sadikov.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Kairvez Kai's Kais Kira. Yeah. Oh, I still want Kai to move up to 135. But sure. Sure. Vardriguez, Imanol and Elibi Adiris, once Ultimate Fighter brothers, now heated rivals. The Ultimate Fighter, what could have been final?
Starting point is 01:05:18 Sure. Wildcard Perez versus Irinaaldana, if the cash in her head is ever closed. I think she's doing okay. Eli. Eventually, yes. Hitala. This is my, Charles Johnson fixed my game.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Otno selections. Okay, interesting. Don't know what that means. Lonnie Kavanaugh. Oh, I guess losing to Charles Johnson, like, helps you level. up. Lonnie Brandon Royval, Brandon Moreno, Charles Johnson, again,
Starting point is 01:05:42 after if Charles Johnson, I assume, B. Brino Silva, Eli, he's booked. Got a lot of people, guys, you didn't check your matchups this week. Marlon Vera, Jacob Wichlash. That's where we are with Marlon Vera now. Cheetah is fighting Jacob Wichlash.
Starting point is 01:05:56 King Green versus Mattis Rabechki. Ooh. Oh, I like that. I looked at that one. And if they go that way, great. But I think I think he's on a two-fight losing streak right now. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:06:10 It's a little rude to, like, King Green finally gets on a winning streak again, and then we're going to give him a guy on a two-fight losing street. Not to my taste, but the fight itself, banger. Emanol versus O'Day Osborne, tough better. I don't know if O'Day is going to be on the roster much longer. I think he might. Maybe they'll get one more shot. Tough veteran test for the Ombuncomber, though maybe we should have him fight
Starting point is 01:06:31 and get knocked up by Charles Johnson so Rodriguez can get to the top five real quick afterwards, like every other prospects. Yeah, fair. And Lucas Cortez. What's out, Lucas? Yeah, we haven't heard from you in a while. King Green, Brian Ortega. Another suggestion for that.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Moreno, Royval, 3. I don't mind that at all, actually. I would love to see those two fight again. I'd love to watch some fight like 10 times. Dave Martinez, given him Mario Bautista, and Cheeto versus Loch Dog. Hmm. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:07:02 I don't hate that. I don't hate that all. I don't know why I didn't. Oh, I didn't make a pick for Cheetah. No, bad call. Yeah, if I'd made a pick for Cheeto, that's actually maybe where I would have gone. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Thank you, Lucas. Jed, and thank you as well. We'll do a quick. Let's look ahead to next week. I don't think we're super jazzed up for the lineup as a whole of UFC 326 going down March 7th at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Of course, the main event. A rematch we've been waiting so, so, so-so-long for. The timing is, would not be better for the BMF title.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Max Holloway defending against Charles Olivera. very quite possibly a undisputed title shot in the line we'll see maybe i think unlikely but uh after arman did his nonsense there's more more opportunities for it there it certainly is rdr's back jed did you know that uh i did know that i'm excited for my medium-sized adult son to have returned one of my twin medium-sized adult son is co-man eventing i think he's actually had a proper holiday instead of jumping into the cage every like two and a half months. And he'll be fighting fellow top 10 contender and also a guy kind of looking to stay in the mix, Kyle Baha'aulia. Rob Font and Raul Rosas Jr.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Very interesting. Really intriguing matchup. I'm curious. I think it's Roses this time, but I don't know. Font keeps holding people back. Drew Dober, Michael Johnson, and Gregory Rodriguez versus Bruno Faheda. Two unanswered questions, guys. We got Jocelyn Edwards and, um,
Starting point is 01:08:32 Nora Cornolay And now you're getting ready Yeah Bruno knocked him out the first time Did you realize I was really Yeah he totally screwed up Robocop's rise Robocop was like we're like oh this guy's gonna be like top ten Vengeance shall be his Vengeance shall be
Starting point is 01:08:45 I think he just got caught I think it's like And I think this will be a fun main card I yeah main card's fine Oh After that though Are you ready Are you ready for the prelims sir Hold on let me I just got a little slim he's up
Starting point is 01:08:58 What's been what have we lost from this card I just want to make sure I don't read anything that's been canceled. Okay. Cody Garbrandt and Sao Long, will Sao Long be the one to send Garbrant off? Is this Garbrant's comeback? I don't know. Big, big test for, really for both guys. Dante Johnson, Dushko Todorovich.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Ricky Terseos Alberto Montez. Oh, I'm sorry. Hold on. This is what I was trying to look at. I'm sorry. Dusko and Dante is off. I'm sorry. Dusko and Dante is off.
Starting point is 01:09:27 It apparently is. Dante is fighting Cody Brundage. I'm sorry. Someone mentioned that. in the show guys. I'm sorry. I'm glossing over these too quickly. Ricky Tursio. Wait. Cody Brundage is now fighting on this.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Cody Brundage. So we've got a triple Cody action this weekend. Oh no. Jed, don't do it. Garbrandt Durden and Brundich. Don't do it. I think we're likely to go the anti-Cody parlay. They might all...
Starting point is 01:09:51 Tum and Dimbabor Hall, Geelong, and Dante Johnson all feel like they are going to be favorites, but you are... Triple Cody action. We never get three codies. Cody, Cody, Cody and Cody? You're very correct. all of their opponents that you would go, Dante Johnton, Shao Long, and Yamjargal, Tunam Dumbarol, who's fighting Cody Dern. Tumendembrool.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Are you writing this down? I don't want you to forget this when you do no best part of the screen. I'm not going to forget that we had Triple Cody. That is so fun. I won't jump out immediately when you said Brundage was on this card now. I'm so joining you on this. I have to, people get on this now. I don't know what the lines are now, but you might not get a juicier number this week.
Starting point is 01:10:28 I think you've got to go. Down with Cody. Down with Cody. What do anti-Cody Rhodes fans? We have. They used to say you suck John Sina. What do they shout to Cody when they hate it? General booing.
Starting point is 01:10:41 But I just want to be clear, we love all codies. If you're out there listening and your name is Cody, nothing against you personally. Cody's are great. Just the three codies on this part. The only Cody we recognize is Buffalo Bo Cody. Stuff. There's not like a, there's not an anti-Cody Rhodes chant that I could adopt.
Starting point is 01:11:00 What was my whole deal? with that guy. He wasn't the Cody killer. What was his name? I hate that. Oh, Desmond Blackshear. What was I giving for him? I don't know. But he beat Hold on, that's easy. Yeah, yeah. Let's look this up right now while we're
Starting point is 01:11:15 Why we come. Oh, no, yes. He was the Cody killer. He was the Cody killer. Well, he was the original Cody. He had killed two and a Cody with a K for right. That's why. But he didn't get Cody Garbrandt. He did not get Cody. That's the one that got away. There's still time. This is so.
Starting point is 01:11:33 I mean, this is, yeah, this is it. Like the Cody, the Cody Killer combo. The Cody Killer combo. The one Blackshear special. We'll call it that. The Blacksure Special. Who is Cody Rhodes beefing with in the WW right now? I have not been watching for wrestling.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I'll be honest, in a long time. No, not W, not W, nothing. So I could not. They just wrestled last night. Who did he lose to or beat? I don't know. I don't even know. I think I know who won the Chambers, I think,
Starting point is 01:12:00 the Elimination Chamber. of a clue. Shout out, let me know so I can know what to name this anti-Cody Parley for no bets part this week. Sumer diR. Jesus Aguilar. Oh, wow. Jesus Aguilar is back.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I think he hasn't fought in like, oh, no, he fought in September. I'm thinking of someone else. Summa diarges, Heisersergalar. Raphael, I should say, Tobias and D.R. Nergozai. That is not on Yose.com, but I believe that is going to happen. Gaston Balanos and. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Wait a minute. Is he fighting? He's fighting Zhang Yang Li. He was already supposed to fight Zhu Sang Yu. He was fighting Zhang Yu.
Starting point is 01:12:35 He was fighting Zhang Yu Sang Yu. And, I'm sorry, the other way around. He is fighting Zhu Sang Yu. He's fighting Zhu. No, he's not. No,
Starting point is 01:12:43 he's going to get it right. He's fighting Zhang Yang Li. Topology has it correct. UFC.com does not have it correct. And opening, Jed usually run. Jed. See, I called him,
Starting point is 01:12:54 Jed. You're killing it. I called him Jed now. Mike usually runs with these a lot quicker. But yes, promising light heavyweight prospect, Luke Fernandez, facing Hadolfo Bellato. So there you go, guys. There is your rundown.
Starting point is 01:13:07 We tried to choose up that prelims as much as we could, Jed. I don't know if people are into it. But thank you. Jed, what do you got going on this week? Let people know before we sign off here. When we sign off, I am going to do work for another 40 minutes. And then I am getting on an airplane to fly to New York City, where I will be doing morning combat this week.
Starting point is 01:13:32 I'll be joining Luke Thomas and Chuck Mendenhall in their show to do a preview. Then, of course, we will be doing all of our previews, AK. We'll have No Betts Bard this week. I think Long Island Luke will be my guest for this week. I haven't actually asked him I need to do that. And then, you know, BTL, I assume we do BTL back to business on Thursday instead of Wednesday. We had to shift it up because Mike was gone. But we'll do a preview show.
Starting point is 01:14:02 As always, I think that'll probably be you and me on Friday, AK for the preview show, but I don't know that for a fact. And, you know, it's 326 full coverage. Hey, we're going to have some fun. We're going to have some fun. You guys know how we do. We're going to have a watch party. There we go.
Starting point is 01:14:15 The watch party is back. And we're going to have. We back, Mama. We are going to have some fun. So thank you, everyone, for joining us today. A pause for some of the, uh, my, Just my various hiccups, technical and name-wise and forgetting fights that were booked. You're perfect.
Starting point is 01:14:31 You've never done anything wrong. That's we both know that's not true. But as Mike would say, we'll see you next time on on to the next one, the podcast.

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