MMA Fighting - Paul vs. Joshua Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Anthony Joshua's Jaw-Breaking Knockout Of Jake Paul

Episode Date: December 20, 2025

Anthony Joshua knocked out Jake Paul in the main event of Friday's Paul vs. Joshua fight card in Miami — a result that seemed to be as close to a unanimous prediction as you'll see in combat sports. However, Paul was able to make it to the sixth round before the eventual finish that left Paul's jaw broken, and with Joshua's hand raised. Despite the win, does Joshua's legacy take any kind of hit with the fight lasting as long as it did? Following the boxing event that streamed on Netflix, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew react to the card, Joshua's finish of Paul and where their stocks go, and what could be next for both fighters moving forward. Additionally, topics include grading the entire event as a whole, Anderson Silva ending the night as the star of the event with a knockout of fellow former UFC champ Tyron Woodley, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Jake Paul, Anthony Joshua, officially in the books. It is a wrap in Miami, Florida. And in the end, it took maybe a little bit longer than some people have expected. But the result, not really surprising. The headline read and reads what everybody sort of expected it to read. Anthony Joshua knocks out Jake Paul in the main event of Jake versus Joshua Judgment Day. and took him into the sixth round but in the end Joshua gets it done

Jake Paul says he has a broken jaw more on that coming up but thank you for joining us once again we're just coming off the watch party I am Mike Heck and joining me to react to the card we just witnessed the main event we just watched from M.Afighting.com there he is the one and only Jed Bishu haven't seen you in a hot minute

the Santa had has remained on Jed respect Yeah, now that we're done, maybe we'll go toggle to the other side. You know, this is how we differentiate the watch party and the post show. You know, that was a fight. We saw some stuff. Mike, I've polled my friends because I wanted to see what the non-MMA community is talking about. Love you all. All the viewers with us on YouTube, Facebook, T. Witch, we love all of you.

But you're here probably a combat sports fan, right? Like you're probably an MMA fan, maybe even a boxing fan. My friends do not care about combat sports. Some of them tuned in tonight. So I did a little impromptu poll in our group chat and was like, tell me, tell me your thoughts. And I'll give you two, one, three on a scale of boxing, five on a scale of entertainment,

10 on a scale of Schadenfreude. and another friend one in boxing 10 in self-loathing for watching that so mixed reviews is what I would say

from the casual observer of this they were all very disappointed that Jake Paul very clearly did not want to fight but they did like that the action sort of ramped up at the end

and that it wasn't like a total waste of time because they did get you know they got to see the execution you don't go to a public execution and oh the the the guillotine doesn't work and now we're all just standing there they did get to see the finish so i think everybody at least is happy with the ending even if the process to get there was maybe not what all we're hoping

for yeah i think that's i think that's like a fair assessment overall it's it doesn't seem like a lot of people are, like, truly thrilled with the fight and the event in general, honestly. Anderson Silva is by far the most valuable player of this event. I mean, put the boots to poor Tyron Woodley. It was just a weird card, man. Like, I didn't watch really any of the prelims. I saw the clip of the knockout in the first fight. I thought Jamal Harvey looked great in his fight, but he fought a dude that, like, had nothing for him

and didn't get a finish Anderson Silva certainly the most impressive performance of the evening yeah but I asked Silva just doing the fake knee into an uppercut obliteration

was insane and the co-made event unfortunately just like it just took so much out of like anybody watching it and like this is not like dumping on them

it's just what it was like the card placement of that fight was just not great they should have put Silva in the co-man main event like i think everything would have been a little bit more easily digestible very much would have been better and then we got then we get to the to the main event which took forever to get to

it just seemed like everything took forever to get to and then the fight happened and it's just like jake ran a whole bunch and which is smart like you don't want to get in there and start hockey fighting that dude he ran around Joshua couldn't really hit him that hard and then eventually Jake got tired and but to Joshua's credit like this is what he said the whole week

and even said it to Ariel in that very as somebody pointed in the in the comments intimate interview at the end you know because Ariel asked him he's like are you disappointed to knock about sooner he goes I just is exactly what I said was going to happen

like he's going to run I have to corner him i have to wear him out and then we get him out of there because i just said exactly what i did uh and that's what happened and in the end the people got what they wanted jed jake paul got knocked out his reaction was hilarious of getting hit very hard by a guy or hits really hard uh and then he says he got a broken jaw i mean if you're if you're a detractor of jake paul he got knocked out in a fight and he got a broken jaw what more could you ask for i guess here's i've been thinking about this a lot over the last three minutes of trying to get my thoughts about this fight like what i've settled on is this is you know the like the old saying that

a compromise is where nobody's happy it's kind of what we got here right well like nobody's thrilled but everybody kind of leaves this feeling happy right like the the the detractors the people who want to see Jake Paul suffer and fail got to you know because if we can be honest it's a safe space here you me and a bunch of our friends we're all friends that Jake Paul did not have any level of success in that right in like a meaningful way he had success in that he didn't die but like he he was not engaged in a boxing match he was engaged in survival and so the detractors can accurately look at that fight and be like that dude wasn't fighting and then he got knocked out and his jaw broken like and they can take it's not him getting francis and ganu stretchered in two rounds but it's you can still experience that schadenfreude in a in a good way for you jake paul and his supporters can leave this and go you know you can put on the rose colored glasses and say jake survived longer than francis and ganu jake was vastly over overmatched in every capacity, and he competed.

You know, Jake didn't get knocked out cold. You can find the things to moral victory it for him. And Netflix is certainly happy because they got a whole lot of people tuning in. Everybody got paid a lot of money. This feels like a good outcome for all parties. Not a great outcome for any party. Nobody loves this. Like, it's not the perfect outcome for anybody.

But it is a happy medium for most parties watching this or competing in this. And so there's some of that there that's like, yeah, that feels like this could have gone worse. Could have gone better, but that would have been polarizing. And so we found a compromise. And I mean, we're already seeing some of it in the chat. Of course, this is just will always be a thing that follows Jake Paul for no real reason other than the circumstances. but like people will look at them like oh yeah this is this was rigged this was a plan to make this fight go longer and i don't think that's true i think that that's just this fight happened

the way it was going to happen because jake was jake wasn't going to engage and so it was going to go on a little longer but that's okay yeah i mean it is what it is like i don't know what people were expecting here i guess like what what were you expected they were expecting jake to fight and get knocked out and that i think is foolish yeah i mean the second your mind should have changed in that thought process was when they said by the way it's a 22 by 22 ring we knew what was going to happen jake was going to run anthony joshua they both told you all week what was going to happen Jake said, I'm going to keep moving around. I'm going to make him tired because he's going to keep swinging and missing because I'm

running around the damn ring. And Anthony's like, yeah, he's going to be running around the ring. And eventually I'm going to get him. And I'm going to get him tired. I'm going to wear him out. I'm going to chip away at him. And then I'm going to knock him out. Like, this is exactly what both guys said was going to happen.

So, I mean, this is also for the people who think it's rigged. And I understand the inclination. I think it's foolish. But I understand the inclination. my guess is you don't watch a lot of boxing in general and the reality is this is not rigged like they didn't have to collude and be like uh back room deals where we say that where jake and i have a handshake agreement that i won't start trying until the fifth round it's like no it's it's hard to fight somebody who doesn't want to fight you it's really really difficult

i encourage you go try to fight somebody and if they don't want to fight you it's going to be difficult to engage in a fist fight with them. And Jake was not trying to fight him. And so it's hard. And there's no incentive for Anthony Joshua to run after him like a cartoon character. Like he can just slowly walk like the Terminator and eventually it will happen. And elite level boxers are always much more patient. I think part of it honestly is the differences between MMA and boxing and certainly fighters.

Because when you get a fighter hurt in MMA, it really does behoove you to pounce, like jump on them and get them out of there. It's people do it less in boxing in general because they get time to recover. So it's not as like, oh, if I just spam my hands, they'll be the ref will intervene, right? But like, this happens all the time where, okay, I've got the guy where I won him. The K.O. will come. I don't have to force it. And it did. And it would have come earlier if Jake Paul.

had met him in the middle and thrown down it would have come down the moment he did that but he didn't and so we got a longer fight i also don't think a j was like really trying because he didn't have to you don't have like i use this analogy on the wash party if you're fighting like your son or whatever you don't have to try to beat him and so like that's a j just did not push the issue because he didn't need to yeah and people who say it's right don't watch fighting they just don't they're just saying it because it's like the cool thing to say because it is truly the stupidest thing in the world to say that something is rigged or stage or anything of that nature just do your fucking homework like honestly go Google

what happens if you are caught rigging a fight and then tell me like if those guys would be the stupidest people on planet earth to buyer it's it's legitimate because he is trying he's not trying his hardest have you ever done any sport and you know there's a difference between going 100% and 50 like he's still competing and he still knocked him out like if this had gone to a decision okay like i i struggle to i don't want to give this too much because i do think a lot of this is just trolling to troll it's exactly what it is anybody saying that is trolling just a troll yeah but it's just like he he got the knockout and because he didn't do it in four seconds, which

he didn't even promise. It's just like, whatever. You could knock him if he was like, I'm going to kill him in the first 23 seconds. But he didn't. So it's just like, yeah, he got the knockout in a fight that Jake Ball was not competitive in whatsoever. But like the same shit happens. People

don't watch boxing and so it would have. It's happened when like Conner did really well against Floyd. It's like, no, he didn't. He lost every round by a lot. Yeah. The things that I'm seeing are just the most. ridiculous things i've ever seen yeah i i'm letting them i'm letting the the trolls have their day but the wrench will come out if we someone got very i pet about it i penalty box somebody when you're

spam the spamming well i i'll do spam anyway but yeah yeah so that's that but it's it's obviously not rigged like this is what jake paul got knocked out and broke's freaking jaw like how is that ringed how do you rig that when you break it beforehand like Like, come on now. Byard, I gave you an explanation of trying. I don't think you're being an asshole, but have you, if you've ever done not even a sport, but literally anything, you know that there are levels of effort you can put into something. I do not believe AJ approached this fight in training or in the fight as if he was fighting Tyson Fury. Because why would he?

He's not. But he wasn't totally like, he wasn't carrying Jake Paul. because carrying would in carrying implies that he is actively not seeking to hurt him right like he is oh here's an opportunity and i'm not going to hurt him jake ran away from him for four full rounds and then started actively diving at his feet if he was trying not to hurt jake paul he wouldn't take paul up like he did in the end it's just not all fights are movie fights. Most fights aren't John Wick where you punch a dude and he dies.

It's not what happens. The referee was bad. I will say, whatever was terrible. That's absolutely bad. Absolutely horrific. It was bad. We needed the woman who was in the co-main event

to rep these fights. But it is what it is. Like, no matter what happens to a Jake Paul fight, the vast majority of people are not going to be happy anyways. So, I mean, it's,

that's what it all comes. Look, I, if Jake Paul got his jaw broken, which we don't know, he said that. He might not have, like that's, it's possible it didn't. Also, if you watch that replay, it's totally possible he did get his jaw broken. Yeah. If I was going to rig a fight, I wouldn't rig it so I got my jaw broken right before Christmas. Or I wouldn't rig it to lose. I mean, you know, sometimes you got to rig it to lose, sure.

I wouldn't rig it so I got my jaw broken before I got to have Christmas ham with my family. That doesn't sound fun. I personally would love to eat my Christmas dinner with my family and chew my food and not have a pumpkin pie put into a blender and then drink it through a straw because I got my jaw broken.

So if this was rigged, it wasn't. It was not rigged. They did a really bad job of it because you could rig a fight where you don't. break your draw yeah uh it appears that jake's jaw's definitely broken uh his instagram he has like a close up on his instagram of oh i mean i 100% believe it like if you rewatch any of the videos you watch any of the videos of it it's like oh yeah that's that's that's a punch to get your job broken so i totally buy that yeah and that's that so i mean look like i said we're not going to

be here for a very long time because we know what happened anthra joshua like literally said exactly what he said he was going to do and he did it is a bigger ring which i'm sure most people who said a ring didn't even know um so like what once you saw once you heard the ring was 22 by 22 it wrote exactly what this fight was going to look like like jake was going to run anthony's got to try to catch him and then he did like oh it's an nsf for work picture got it now i'm looking it up yeah it's pretty nice i don't care about this stop stop it stop let's leave me alone oh yeah that's a hundred percent yeah that 100 percent um i mean i guess technically maybe his jaw's not broken and just

like that chunk of teeth got broken but like his jaw broke yeah 100 percent he got a punch of the face by anthony joshua honestly for all the stuff that we talked about being rigged like credit to jake paul his his post solved it rigged and then just showed the clip like yeah no you're gonna rig the fight you'd rig it so you don't wire your draw shut like mike i don't know if you know this robert whittaker versus homza chimaev rigged oh yes yep chimaev rob just needed some dental work so they they drew that fight up so he would have his whole face jacked up And we had to get Hamzan into a title fight. So we had to make sure it happened.

If he was carrying him and then going to finish him in the fifth, Jake would have just sat down on a body shot and we'd have been out of there. Not what happened. Yeah. Props to Jake Paul. I mean, stepped in there. He truly dared to be great. It did not go well for him.

I refused to accept that. But he did go in there and he tried. He would have. there and tried. Jake Paul did not dare to be great. Jake Paul was not trying to win this fight. He was never going to win this fight. I do give Jake Paul credit for many things.

What Jake Paul dared to be was paid. Jake dared to get paid. And he did. He had paid a handsome sum to get knocked out. And he, you know, breaking your joint, the worst thing when you got $50 million to cover that

medical bill. I'm sure you're going to be okay. But I will absolutely give Jake Paul credit for a couple of things. You know, his game plan was silly, but it worked. It takes bravery. It takes courage

to go to a fight you know you are going to lose. It is an underrated thing. And I frankly think I personally would have been more moved by the buildup if Jake had just said that. There's like, you know, there's a difference, and that's a Harry Potter

line, there's a difference between walking, to the gallows being dragged to the gallows and walking with your head held high jake knew he was going to lose and you know think back in your own lives to when you were in school and the bully called you out for the playground after school and you know you're going to lose and you still go because that's what happened that's what jake did he did it for a lot of money we don't need to discredit that but it still takes bravery to do that um i respect the fact that he did not change his energy. Right before he got knocked out,

he was mugging at Anthony Joshua. If you're going to be that way, be that way in the good times and the bad. So I do respect that. And frankly, I got respect for that chin because I don't think I'd be conscious if I ate that right hand from Anthony Joshua. And Jake Paul is.

So good on him. Whatever that means to him, he accomplished more than I expected of him, certainly, even I had low expectations of this. Give him a shout out for walking into it, but I'm not going to say he dared to be great. Yeah, I paid a lot of money to get knocked out. That's fair.

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they're going to screw it up they're going to give them both separate fights one of them's probably going to lose and then they'll just won't fight each other because it's absolutely ridiculous and dumb and stupid uh how boxing does this but that's probably what's going to happen the read they're got a read season the shit up ring's going to do a bunch of and turkey's going to risk it for the biscuit and then someone's going to lose and then that fight will never happen and people are going to be friggin pissed off about it uh what is decks for jake paul jed would you like to see there? I mean, his jaw's busted.

He's going to be out for a hot minute. Fair. I think I think he's going to go back to the influencer circle. I know he said he was going to be cruise weight champion of the world or whatever.

That's obviously silly and not going to happen. That's, you know, an ambitious idea that's not a table. But there are a lot of other things that are. He can do the influencer scene again.

He can just, you know, Darren Till's out there. You know, Nate Diaz again was pitched. Tori Moss for all there's stuff out there that could be done. I don't know his appetite. I still, I think now would frankly be the perfect time for them to finally do KSI. Because Jake will win. That will be big. It will be a good rebound fight for him.

People will care. And then I think the next For a long time The idea was obviously To fight Connor McGregor I think that's probably gone Right like that that always seemed like the end road And that's no longer there

But I gotta tell you I still don't think it would go well for him Very clearly do not I think you can sell it now And build towards Jake versus Francis I think that has more legs after this even if it's silly and Francis will still very likely win,

I think you can pitch that. And so that's not next, but I think that's the next big game. That's the next thing to build to is Jake versus Francis. But like Tommy Fury again, KSI, if I was in charge of it, now we do KSI, and then Tommy Fury and then Francis. That would be my lineup for them. i just think francis is like just not part of this conversation anymore one because the name

doesn't bring as much juices it did two years ago and two they gave francis the chance to take this fight and he not only publicly turned it down he was like how dare you even offer me this fight so if i'm jake i'm just like fuck this guy i ain't offered him anything but here's what i would say i think that fight's big though do you I don't I do I mean it's you get the same you get the same optics with AJ only you get to say UFC heavyweight champion of the world baddest man on the planet like um I don't know but Francis is probably as known in America as AJ is frankly um and I again that's not next that's the next thing you build to um I really think that that's business for them well

let's see francis needs to like do something well yeah again and he's he's probably going to fight in pfl in spring against the dean nemcoff which he may lose and then that like takes away from this up this as well but here's here's what i would do if i was jake paul jed you know what i love to say about people who kind of overstay their welcome we can't miss you if you don't leave if i'm jake paul i don't fight in 2026 at all i take the whole year off i've still am out and i don't think so i don't think he this is what i would do if i was his team right now focus on building the brand obviously be the face of the promotion when you do the amanda sarano fights and all that stuff like 100% like get your face out there definitely like don't

disappear don't like do what colby didn't just fall off the face of the earth but he's still going to make the floppy jillians not fighting right he's still going to make apart, because, dude, I mean, these guys are selling out MSG. Like, they're selling out all these arenas with all these big fights. Like, he is making plenty of money if he doesn't fight. Let something come along that, like, gets people interested. And Jake just not fighting for a year, that's going to build up a whole bunch of options for him.

Because what do you think these people, what do you think people are going to do in both MMA and boxing for the next year? They're going to call out Jake. And he can weigh his options and finally find something that, like, makes sense. at this point we're just kind of like flinging shit off the wall just to see what sticks at this point so like yeah man like take some time off like it's okay it's fine like Netflix comes with you like a big ass offer or something they don't feel like cona mcgregor or something and it's allowed to happen yeah sure go do it but if like nothing like that comes along like what are you doing fighting when you don't have to he's going to take time off because he's going to have to right but i'm saying not not take six months off i'm not saying like oh come back the summer i'm saying like come back i think president's day i would say president's day 27 come back or like book something and build it for a year fall is the latest you again like i don't know how long the jake paul experience goes on

in this iteration if he takes time off like you kind of do need to at least be present once a year um he's going to take some time off yeah i know but like now he's like if the idea of him taking a whole year off i don't think that works right now um coming off a loss maybe but like just i don't he likes boxing so he wants to keep doing this and that's the part i respect about jake paul there are many things i respect about it he likes it and wants to do this i take some time for sure next fall fight kSI like that fight should just happen you'll win it's a tune-up fight just do that and we can close that chapter that feels like it's sort of still out there um and that can be your official finish to your influencer boxing

and brand however you want to do it but like do that get a tune-up fight and then you know figure out what your next move is but like that to me is the next one and that should happen next year we shouldn't take that long off if we're jake ball plushy pictures we are not comparing KSI taking like three years off to Jake Paul taking one year off like it's not the same thing KSI is not as well known as Jake Paul is not even close when to go KSI would absolutely fight Jake Paul I I will believe that oh Jake Paul has not wanted to fight KSI not because he is ducking him because he has frankly been pursuing bigger fights um well there's more to it than that too because the the the biggest

has hurdle to this fight not being made and both guys have in both teams and camps have said it publicly is they want jake k s i's team wants jake to cut down to like 180 125 uh which at this i mean dude was like 217 for this fight like that is a big ass cut at this point getting down to like 185 or whatever they wanted at and ks i and jake's like well no let's do it at like 195 and k s i is like no so they can't agree on a wait and it's just not going to happen like this fight just never going to happen because of that

because either guy wants to lose and I don't know why KSI would care about losing I think that's very silly of him yeah but he just he doesn't want to get colded by Jake either I don't even think that would happen it could but

yeah but that's that fight it should happen that would be the the smart fight for both guys if it's fucking if it's fucking Tate if it's Andrew Tate that made me so sad. Somebody commented that

and was like, honestly, it's not a zero percenter. The issue I have for Jay, he's like, I don't know what fights are big. And maybe he doesn't care. You know, he did do the phase where he fought. That's what I'm saying. That's why I should take time off

and let something build for him. I don't, I think taking a year off would be bad. Straight up, just think that would be bad. I think you have to be, you have to compete. You don't have to compete in six months, but like he needs to fight at least once next year. And that's a year off. Don't do that.

Fight in the fall. He doesn't need to fight though. I agree. If I'm Jake Paul, I'm retiring. I'm not taking brain trauma. I'm going. But he likes fighting. He wants to fight.

Like, I believe that to be true. Everything else he says, I think, is mostly a lie. I believe that he likes this because it is hard to do something if you don't like it that much. So he wants to fight. and like if he didn't he would never have fought the two random pro boxers like that was that was those were meaningless for him but he likes fighting and he thought it was helping his growth and development or whatever and so fight somebody in the fall um maybe he takes a huge step back and it is you know a pro boxer or whatever but i'm trying to i'm trying to think of people fights that would feel big because it seems like he is with netflix now and that changes the equation Asian, right? Because Netflix is not going to want to watch him fight Joe Plummer. So then it's

got to be, who will Netflix want to see you fight? And that's that is a small group. The Chavez fight wasn't on Netflix. Was it not? No, it's on his own. Oh, then okay, you can do anything on the zone. They don't give shit. Yeah.

They're on the zone. That's fine. That's all good. Or maybe this would actually, if he's not going to fight in boxing, this super, chat i actually that would be fine yeah i don't see that's that's it actually not a bad idea that would be a good idea that's not a bad idea and this whole notion that he has to fight nate dyes or somebody of that no that's silly just go fight anybody like literally just go fight anybody but yeah the cruiserweight title thing is silly at this point like stop doing it but again

like do you just chuck them in there if you're a bad person for suggesting luke rock cold you're bad person oh no we can't do that we can't do that uh alicia bomb gardener wins convincingly against uh leila bouduan in a fight that quite frankly i don't think anybody's going to go back a rewatch but yep alicia got it done uh it's just again she was the calum walsh position where this the fight that had like the second most intrigue on it uh was bumped down to the featured spot and the co-main event was not a thriller and it kind of like took away from the whole card again i'm not trying to to blame them the card placement just didn't suit that fight uh if that if we went

from jemal harvey into the bomb gardener fight into sylva into paul i think this would have been easier to digest overall like that fully on board um and you know it is one of those things like you never know how the fight's going to go i think we all could have anticipated there is a real world where Anderson versus Woodley sucked and they both just didn't punch each other for six rounds or whatever not what ended up happening and certainly that's not as meaningful a fight as Baumgartner in a legitimate fight but yeah

the event would have been a lot better in that structure I don't think this would ever happen but I'm now going to consider this Jake Paul versus Ryan Garcia basically doing the Giovante fight just different it's like

you will be 80 pounds heavier than Ryan Garcia Ryan Garcia is very popular We're going full freak show again Yeah I was I mean This was basically full freak show

Let's just keep full freak show That's fun Jake Paul versus Eddie Hall then Like let's really Oh yes Now you're speaking my language Michael See that's the fight That's it

That's it That is legitimately something I would be very excited about. For the best watch party ever. I would have a lot of fun watching that. I love this so much. Again, shout out to Anderson Silva, the MVP of the event. Jamal Harvey looked really good too. Shout out, sir, shout out to Tyron Woodley.

Tarum Woodley has not won a fist fight since 2018. He has not fought in almost two years before. this i think and is still out here getting a paycheck to lose fist fights that is an impressive longevity and i respect that and one thing

tired has learned to do is he's learned how to get got real good yeah he did tonight and he's apparently not done okay bkfc here time would be oh no no no oh you're right

dirty boxing I mean, he's got to fight Hector Lombard at some point. I feel like that needs to happen. Oh, God. They haven't settled that rivalry yet. God, don't do that. That would just make me sad for all parties. All right.

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Oh, I didn't bet the over. Oh, our title does have a misspelling. What title? The title of this post. which says Jake Powey P-A-U-I somebody commented nice

nice spells it took me a minute to figure it out I was like oh that is that's an I instead of an Ellen ball what is this the title Jake Powey versus Anthony Joshua oh oh no shit

To whoever it was to put that in the comments. Oh, true, true fischel. Way to go. Powie. Oh, my God. And literally, like, he said it. And then I was like, what are you talking about? And it's, yep.

Solid effort. Jake Powie. Oh, man. The Hawaiian, the Hawaiian problem child. Jake Powey. That'll be Jake Paul's name when he takes on to crazy Hawaiian and slap fighting. Yeah. Or what is?

Power slap, not slap fighting. yeah uh you and i did we didn't we didn't bet the over uh no i just started we bet big on anthra joshua i had like a fun one that actually like it was really close i felt like very close it was very close if i went there just wasn't a knockdown before the bit the the the sprinkle bet was paul knock joshua knocks paul down in round four and finishes him in round five that was plus 2,700 there's just like a fun one ever went long so like i it was set you your seat stuff for six minutes or actually three because there wasn't a yeah that's pretty good man um no i just i almost bet a j by koh because it was like minus 350 and then i was like

i just don't care i'm like yeah because i did think there was a world where he might actually stone cold carry him um and that was obviously silly he wasn't ever really going to do that because that would look bad for him, I think. Yeah. But, yeah, that was the easiest bet of my entire life. I was astonished. It was minus 800. Lazy bed suggests, how about Paul to Real American Freestyle

after all the takedown attempts? That was the part that was legitimately crazy. Because, like, he wasn't even pretending. Like, I could hope, you can do a clinch and, like, a really ducked down. But he was like, at one point, he straight up dove, like, he shot a double. He cheated the whole fight. Yeah, it was, they probably, I think the, I think the ref only scored, what, two knockdowns in that fight? Like, the one that ended it.

I think he scored another one or two in the previous round or right before it. So I guess three knockdowns total. I think there were like five because, like, Jake would get hit and fall down because he was diving and the ref kept being like stop pushing him a j brer apparently uh nekisa badarian at the post fight press conference said uh the only reason jake paul lost was because he was the smaller fighter sure that's the only reason he lost not because that he seemingly saying that he was the better boxer than anthie joshua he

just lost because he was outside the only reason i lost is i didn't score didn't score as many points as my opponents on prop quiz like yeah the all like that's one I don't know he's a promoter he's going to say stuff

you can't credibly draw that conclusion from the fight anyway but also yeah like this isn't if I had wheels I'd be a wagon you know like he he is smaller you knew that when you took the fight like this he didn't show up and he was like oh I thought I was fighting 14 year old Anthony Joshua he's grown quite large just you knew what you

were doing oh just just say the thing like be humble cut the shit no that that's Jake's job Nikis's job is to say ludicrous things and promote and that's Eddie heard says ludicrous things but like doesn't wouldn't say that I mean I don't know any might say something something like that but in general eddie is a very gracious loser yeah which is always uh if there's one thing you can be in life guy or be more than this but being a gracious loser is always a good thing uh people respond to that well francis versus eddie i mean that's the fight that should have been made the second eddie hall won his ks yeah 100% but again what are we doing what are we doing here uh interesting question from the twitch sphere any are there any interesting

fights left for Anderson. I don't I don't mind the Weidman fight though. If these are the fights he's doing then I'm okay with it. It's fine. I wrote about this week. I don't

want to see Anderson's civil fight anymore. It's fine and he's doing it in a way that it's not awful, right? Like he's not fighting Anthony Joshua and getting hurt. But like I don't need it. He's 50 years old. I don't need it. I don't need it.

you know um i don't need to see 50 year old people get into fist fights even if they're great 450 or whatever um there's just i don't value nostalgia that much and that's all it is with anderson you're you're trying to remember the time when anderson was and like if i i can watch a movie that i can go watch rookie of the year if i need that nostalgia it's scratched i'll need to see a 50-year-old potentially taken damage. So, none for me, but he's a grown man and gets to do this as long as he wants. So as long as he's being responsible about it, I won't have a major issue with it, but I would be much prefer if he just never did this anymore again.

I got to tell you, if someone was like, name 10 things that won't be said on the post-fight show, rookie of the year, would have been on that list. It was the first nostalgia movie that popped into my head. Shout out to Henry Rowan. Henry Rowan Goddna. Rosen. Oh, what a great movie. John Candy in the booth.

The hot, stinky hamburger. What a cast. John Candy, Thomas Ian Nicholas. It was a great job. Gary Busey as the rocket. Fuck, Gary Busey. Gary Busey. God.

Daniel Stern is the pitching coach. Oh, yes, he is. yes he is shout out this is daniel stern season christmas hell yeah rosa baga uh the them all doing the math problem in the locker room paint the house take eight hours no how does that work it's great uh shout to lazy bed lazy bed is correct nice this is best of both worlds oh yeah like look if i need nostalgia i can watch that i don't need to watch anderson sova fight or i can go watch old anderson fights i don't have to watch 50 year old anderson fight it was very weird because like 48 year old Anderson Silva still

looked like 35 year old Anderson Silva yeah he yes but 50 year old Anderson Silva looked like 50 year old anderson so 50 year old Anderson so of a hundred percent looked like an old man not like an old man but like he had a little bit of an old fighter like he had a dad bod belly um like he's in good shape for 50 but he's 50 50 50 like why are we watching a 50 year old person fight someone we don't need that you're you're lied saying um that from behind like looking at his back he looked like George Foreman. He looked 100% like George Foreman from behind. Because he was super broad, like super wide, clearly kind of wrote like a little more round.

But like he looked like a guy who once was a very good athlete, but he'd put on some weight because he was old. They had big broad back and a bald head. And I was like, that could be George Foreman fighting a morer. Like that from behind it is not that big a difference. I might put post that. I might find some photos of the two of them and be like, which one's which. Unbelievable.

But the finish was dope. It was way cooler than George Foreman. Foreman's was obviously much better because it was winning a heavyweight championship fight or whatever. But like it was basically a one-two that he found the timing for beautifully and he set up with a faint. Anderson. Try to fly. Fake to fly me. Yeah, Anderson faked a flying knee and then hit a shift.

faint upper cut that nearly killed that made tern woodley also shoot for his legs but he wasn't shooting he just was falling over that aggressively oh man Anderson still got it man still got it uh he's probably the most dangerous 50-year-old walking the earth hell yeah hell yeah yeah yeah look if if he wants to fight chris wide been fine other than that like i have don't need to see it don't need it that's fine and won't bother me if it happens um but then i i will probably watch it because my job will make me watch it like i won't care about it at all but like you know if that's what he does okay he seems very happy and that's what matters most he is he is a delight he is loving his post ufc career he seems to have so much fun with it and that's great yeah you know

he's he's doing he's doing the damn thing at 50 so good on him and uh that's a man who doesn't need to take a year off if he's going to keep fighting no for sure if you're interested just keep going yeah just keep going find past fighters old rivals do those kinds of things you know yeah i'm trying to think of like anybody that would make me even remotely care about an anderson fight right now I'll say there's one and it's not no I'm all kind of but no and it's not even that I think this would be bad and should not happen but um and I would probably watch it and be a little bit concerned but maybe not because it's both just old um the only nostalgia trigger that would get even an inkling of something out of me is a Roy Jones junior fight oh because that's just a

fight Anderson wanted to do forever and like I think we both would everybody would acknowledge this is probably closer to chale three than it is to like Anderson versus Julio Cesar Chavez or whatever um but that might that might be enough nostalgia to be like okay color me intrigued yeah anything else anything else Anderson GSP you know Romero versus Jake Paul that's the fight feels feels you also got a pretty packed up dance card these days are R a F tomorrow go R a F tomorrow that he's doing B KFC against Lorenzo Lunt yeah go let's go that might be the weirdest fight ever made yeah it's literally every YOL fight is super weird because

it's weird that he's still doing this. The fight itself will probably be super weird. Yoel's just a curious fellow. I love him a lot. He also might be like 60. Like he's, you know, he's Cuban.

I don't know if he's actually like 43 or whatever his age is, but he's awesome. I love you all the most. My favorite part about the BKFC press conference, there was very little I liked about it, but the one part I really did, like was Anderson, YOL or Mera had the longest answer in BKFC press conference history because he would say something, the translator would translate it, and that he would just grab

the bike back and keep saying things, and then the translator would say it, and you would think he'd be done, but they just kept pulling the mic back and kept talking, and then eventually Lorenzo Hunt tried to interrupt him to try to build something up, and Yol Romero, like, completely ignored him and just kept talking for like another five minutes. It was unbelievable, truly unbelievable stuff will be all over the arrow so what about Mike Tyson versus Anderson Silva no thank you okay Mike Tyson had a medical episode yeah I don't he shouldn't have fought Jake we we rolled the dice once and it didn't come up terrible we're good I'm good Vitor versus Yowel and dirty boxing

that's kind of fun that is pretty good that is pretty good wouldn't mind that wouldn't mind that that's like a perfect dirty boxing main event right it's very dirty boxing yeah yeah absolutely

uh Dustin Porreier versus Jake Paul no thanks okay I mean I would watch that but I'm that'd be a hot take that'd be a bigger fight than francis i don't think that's a hot take i think that's true and poor is poor is very very over very over um i mean i would watch it no i like how poor his career ended i think he should let that be

but he's he's already talking i think he does want to do boxing at least once and could happen i don't think it's going to it's not zero percent yeah Well, what is 0% is that the show, it's a 0% the show continues on another 90 seconds. I was, I wondered if that was the seg where you were going for. Yeah, that's exactly the segue we're going for. We are absolutely done here. Yeah. And we appreciate you all.

We love you all. We really do. We love you all very, very much. Except for the one guy in the comment who said, I look stupid in my hat and that he wanted to watch the fight. This is a post show. so you're both stupid and mean. Yeah, Baja Mug, Scrooge. It's the holiday spirit.

Get a little positivity, you know? How can we get to world peace if you're going to be an asshole? I am an idiot, and I realize this like 10 minutes before we went on. I have a punching bag in my house, like in my house. And had I thought about it at all, I would have just wrapped Christmas lights around it like a tree and put it over my shoulder, and that would have been perfect. But I'm stupid, Mike. I'm stupid, stupid, stupid.

Well, you guys are great. Jed, you're not stupid. None of you are stupid. We love you all. We do. We really do. Jet and I will be back for the promotional festivist edition of Between the Links, which is going to drop on Christmas Day.

Maybe sooner, but probably Christmas morning for you to be your long drives and such. great time for jed i am mike heck have a great night have a great rest of your weekend we're out of here love you all happy holidays ho ho ho you're listening to the vox media podcast network