MMA Fighting - Paul vs. Perry & UFC Vegas 94 Post Show | Reaction To Jake Paul's Stoppage Win; Plus, Conor McGregor Fires Mike Perry?

Episode Date: July 21, 2024

While many in the MMA community hoped Mike Perry would be the one to stop Jake Paul, it wasn't meant to be as Paul delivered a one-sided performance against the durable BKFC star en route to a sixth-round finish. Paul then called out UFC light heavyweight champion Alex Pereira, and new BKFC owner Conor McGregor says he's firing Perry. What in the world is going on? Following a weekend doubleheader, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck, Jed Meshew, and Eric Jackman recap the Paul vs. Perry event, along with UFC Vegas 94 and discuss the crazy fallout of Paul's win, how the Mike Tyson fight now looks, if Pereira would get the chance to fight Paul, and Perry's fighting future. Additionally, the panel talks Virna Jandiroba's massive main event win and if a title shot is next, Steve Garcia and Hyder Amil sending messages to the featherweight division, Lucas Bahdi's incredible knockout of H20 Sylve, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow Eric Jackman: @NewYorkRic Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We give you options here at the Best Combat Sports website on planet Earth. You can join us for a reaction to what we witnessed tonight, both at the world's most famous apex for the UFC, and what happened in Amelie Arena for Jake Paul versus Mike Perry. We all know how Jake Paul versus Mike Perry ended. Jake Paul gets a stop. in round six. Amanda Serrano gets a quick finish. H2 O. Silve gets knocked out. Suffers his first loss. It was a crazy night in Tampa as we welcome you to our dual post-fight show here.

And what a treat we have for you, ladies gentlemen, because first, New York Rick is back at our lives, which is always fun after spending, what, three in three hours, 15 minutes with me earlier, New York, Rick? Are you sick of me yet? No. Well, you crazy? It's always a joy to be with you. And with all you fans. So yeah, I'm loving it. And it was a good night. But boys and girls, we have a special guest joining us from Amelie Arena in Tampa, Florida. The legend himself, the belly flop king, the big booper.

He is none other than Jed Mishu. Jed Mishu. How we doing, buddy? We're doing great. We're up at the very top of Emily. because I'm on my laptop, you can see. Look, look right down there. Wow.

That's them breaking down the arena and the ring. The wonderful, you, Casey Leiden is on our other stream. He's down in the press for the postman press room in the box. I have absolutely no idea how long they will let me stay here. I have pirated this area and we will see how long it works. But I wanted to come talk about fights with you guys before I get unceremoniously thrown out of this building. well i mean it's it's good to get sort of the on-site vibe of everything because it seemed like the crowd was really into it seemed like they were very pro mike perry very anti jake paul which

isn't really surprising we saw that the nat fight this one seemed exactly the same especially of mike perry being from there but how did the fans react as the fight was playing out because it got real hairy for mike perry real quick second round did not go much better round three mike showed a little bit of life. May have even won that third round, and then we saw kind of the snowball for Jake Paul bro a little bit more downhill. What was the vibe like in the arena as the fight was playing out?

When we talked about it in the works like, the arena was live for it. It's like, I mean, this place was pretty much packed out from the moment the main card started. You know, there's still people straggling in, but all the ground floor seats, like all the floor level was full. And big, it was tough.

Early parts of this card were a little bit of a drag, but we get the big unbelievable knockout that kind of sets the crowd on fire. Amanda Serrano, this place popped enormously for her, even though Morgan is from Tampa and she herself got a pop here. There were just people here for Amanda Serrano. And then, yes, Jake Paul was clearly the favorite.

And certainly in my area, it was a very Mike Perry thing. But Jake Paul, you know, there were some smattering of booze, but nobody was like upset when he won. Mainly this was just a crowd that reacted to every big thing. And a lot of big things happened. You know, Perry got knocked down three, four times. I don't remember what the final count was. I think it's three with the finish.

But then just like every big punch, every kind of swing of momentum when Mike Perry dropped his hands, it was kind of mugging big ball. Like this crowd was super into this fight. It felt like for a fight that is ultimately somewhat meaningless, it did not feel meaningless at all. the people here in ammo arena. How would you grade?

I mean, Jake just looks so much bigger. Like watching it on the stream as we were watching it and doing the watch party, the first thing you notice is like, oh my God, Jake looks 35 pounds bigger than Mike Perry right now. And it just looked every time Mike got hit, like you could just see the size difference. But, you know, as it just

as the fight ended, we were joking New Yorker and I about like, you know who you should fight Jake Paul from the May World Alex Pereira. That's who it should be. It should be that. And then Jake Paul gets on the microphone and calls out Alex Pereira. What was the reaction from the arena when he did that?

Because we couldn't hear much more than him just saying it. But what was your reaction? And then what was the reaction in the arena to that call out? So my reaction was, oh, that's brilliant. That's just A plus promotion. Like, I've had some criticisms of Jake Paul. I do think I've been a little more fair towards him the most. but my criticisms have never extended to how he is managing his career.

I think he has done just about picture perfect in going up the ladder. And tonight being a prime example, like this is a fight that he could have lost, and instead he comes out smelling like roses. Now, where he goes from here, we'll talk about that in a second, I'm sure. But I thought the prayer call out was perfect because the people who know, like, they're like, okay,

that's pretty like, we know who Alex Pere is because he's having this moment, this pretty badass, but only like a very limited number of that portion are going to be like, yeah, he's never going to get that fight. Dan is never going to sign off on it. So this is a pure upside. I get clout without having to risk anything realistically. So I think it's great promotion. The arena, a little soft to it. Some people right in front of me who clearly knew it was up were pretty unhappy and it's like, oh, this is garbage, to get that fight. Mostly it just kind have felt like maybe people weren't super keyed in on who Alex Pereira is or that Alex Pereira like wants to box because this crowd I talked about it in Slack with you guys this is my

second Jake Paul fight I've been to I went to the Ben Astrum one that was during COVID so it was a just a whole different thing like there weren't a lot of people there this was such a unique crowd because there were a ton of bare knuckle like people with BKFC stuff belts Mike Perry gear here and then there were also just a ton of like very clearly Jake Paul, you know, teenagers, families, small, like with small kids and stuff. So it was a real mixed bag. And I just have to assume that all those people, they're not really clued into Alex Prairies. And so it went over fairly quietly. What did you learn tonight from Jake Paul?

Did you learn anything new from him? I did. I thought this was an incredible performance for him because I thought Mike Perry was. would do what happened, right? I thought Mike Perry would make him fight, and this is the first real fight Jake Paul has been in. He wasn't in as much of a fight

as I thought he would be in, frankly, but like in that third round when Perry is just like, I don't care, you can't hit me as much as you want. I am coming at you. We saw Jake Paul have to back up and have to figure out,

okay, what are the tools I have to deal with the man like this? He's never had it. He's either been fighting due to way bigger and way younger than and kind of overpowered them, or very occasionally just guys who can stick and jab and just play this outside game and not really get into a knockdown dragout. And, you know, if he really climbs to the ladders,

maybe we have to see him, you know, get to that Gotti Ward style of does he have that dog in him? That's not totally what got here, but we got to see him kind of work through some adversity and get into a real fist fight and show that he has some tools. And he is not just going to wilt when the pressure is applied to him

and that he can adjust and sort of figure ways out forward. To me, I thought the momentum was shifting. And then he came out in that fourth round. I think it was the fourth round where he came out and was he became the guy who just came forward. Because when Perry was allowed free reign to run at him, like that was really bad for Jake Paul. But then Jake Paul came out and was like, I will be the one pressing forward. And that kind of took the wind out of ferry sales and he never recovered. So I thought he showed a lot.

He was really impressive. Jake Paul, he's not the best technical boxer. like it's ugly at times but he hits really hard and he's picking his opponents very well and we're going to be on this train for quite a while boys last day I want to ask you before we get New York Rick's take on something else that happened

in the fallout of this fight we know what is Dexter Jake Paul November 15th he is fighting Mike Tyson and people had certain feelings when this fight was announced now he fights Mike Perry everyone said we like this way better than the Mike Tyson fight and maybe some people's opinions change based on what Jake Paul did in this fight against Mike Perry tonight.

Has this has what happened tonight changed the way you view the Mike Tyson fight? Does it feel worse? Does it feel more icky, lessicky? Were you out with it now? I mean, it's changed a little. It hasn't changed it much because I was very adamantly opposed to it before. And now I am just like full blown. We should super not do this.

Like we should super, super not do this. Because like, he's just, Jake Paul is now clearly established. himself as smart enough not to do the dumb thing that could give people a chance when they have limited opportunities. And the truth is, Mike Tyson, legends, et cetera, is going to be 60 years old in the not too distant future. His opportunity is a punch early because he will not have the ability to fight beyond four minutes maximum. So Jake will just not allow that to happen. And then it's going to be akin to elder abuse. Like we should super not let that fight happen. I was really adamant about before.

I now have no interest in it, and yet it is for sure going to happen. And so it'll be that morally weird place for us to be. Real quick, let's talk about the reaction from, I guess we can say Mike Perry's boss in this situation. Yes, yes, please. Mike Perry apparently is no longer employed by BKFC if we are to believe the tweets of one Connor McGregor.

Here's what Conner Greger had to say afterwards. Quote, Jake Paul is the biggest piss bag I've ever seen in my life. 40 pound weight difference, juiced out of his head and still shitting himself in there. Nikisa, you should take him to Vegas. Oh, that's right. You can never, the athletic commission testing, real testing, real.

Balls up with, Hey, Mike, you're released, and you can go and compete in your smelly, dirty boxing championship thing. The smell of it. Good luck. You're fired. And then followed up with, dirty boxing championship with MMA sparring gloves.

LOL, enjoy that lad. Smell you later. First, New York, Rick, Connor McGregor lends his newly signed bone thugs in harmony to Mike Perry for his walkout. And then Mike goes in there, clearly being the undersized guy, but to the best of his ability,

took a lot of punishment. And then Connor just fires him. Your reaction to this. is it a is it a heel take to say that I agree with Connor McGregor here that how dare you

is it a heel take to just say like if I'm an owner of BKFC if I'm a boss who employs Mike Perry and I big up him at the Spain press conference not too long ago and then he

kind of downplays it and says like I was an owner first and then launches his own promotion am I out of line to be like, I kind of get where Connor McGregor is coming from and you should be more promotional of BKFC in this scenario and send them packing.

I mean, then, like, that's, I kind of am there. And then you get into the whole thing of like, does this create a power struggle? If you are Connor McGregor and you feel this strongly about this and you say to David Feldman and whoever else has ownership stake, it's me or him. I think Connor McGregor would win that, no doubt. So it's a fascinating thing here.

We'll see, like, in the sobering light of day, what Connor McGregor feels about Mike Perry and what BKFC ultimately feels about Mike Perry. But I think I'm with Connor. Which is wild that the biggest star of the UFC is promoting another promotion, and yet it's spot into another promotion. And now he's upset.

that another fighter has started his own promotion that he's not going to fight it. By the way, I think Connor- Apocrycy, Mike. Yes, but to the point, I think Connor Murgger would dare the UFC to let him go. You know what I mean? Like, whereas Mike Perry- To that point, though, because that's where I was going to come in and say, like, I actually, I'm picking up where you're putting down.

This is maybe not like the best thing for BKFC and what Mike Perry has done. Like, obviously they said you can do this because they wanted more. And to be fair, there was a ton of BKFC stuff here. Their name did ring out in this arena as part of that. But he pretty clearly co-opted this to launch his own thing. And, you know, credit to him, you know, look out for number one, baby. By that same token, though, Rick, like, I don't think Connor can fire him. Because, like, Mike Perry owns BFC.

Like, BKFC, he is the draw for them. He is the biggest thing going. So if BKFC fires him, I got to tell you, I think Mike Perry is going to do better than BKFC is going to do coming out of that breakup. So I think he can also dare Connor to like, okay, yeah, for real, fire me, see what happens. It's fascinating. It's fascinating. I think you're right.

Like BKFC needs Mike Perry so much in terms of the actual fight product. But if you are David Feldman and other owners there, and it sounds like, by the way, Mike Perry has been very clear about saying like he has some stake in BKFC. He has made this clear like every time Connor comes up, he mentions that he also has some stake. I imagine it's not as much as Connor McGregor, but he has some stake. If you were the other stakeholders,

like I could see a world where you're willing to piss away Mike Perry at the potential of Connor McGregor going like, wrapped up my UFC deal, now I'm going to fight BKFC. Like I could easily see you chasing that pipe dream and pissing away somebody who has been so, you know, magnetic and great for your promotion and Mike Perry. So I'm extremely fascinated by this thing. This is deeply fascinating. But really what this is, this is just laying the groundwork.

We've already laid the groundwork. We're just laying building the foundation for the eventual Connor versus Mike Perry in BKFC in 2027. Then we can dig up this tweet and the whole thing can happen. I would watch that so much. I would watch that so much, like to a crazy degree. What a time. What a time. You know, like, some real heat coming out of Connor McGregor there.

What's interesting to me is that they were semi-coherent. Like, usually, like, around this time, they get, like, not really coherent. Like, you kind of had his talking points here for both Jake Paul and for Mike Perry. Yeah, spit and fire. Real quick, for you let you go, Jed, because I know you're in a weird spot where you can say, I don't think, I don't think I'm making more than five minutes. So, okay. If you're Dana-way right now, are you pondering this Alex Pereira thing? Are you thinking about calling the bluff?

Because I got to tell you, I love this idea. And if I'm Dana White, I'm sending his ass over. I'm at least going to the UFC 304 press conference next Saturday. and saying, okay, fine. Like, I'll send Alex over, just to try to call his bluff and see what happens. But, I mean, I'm not sending Mazadol over there because that's silly. He's a welterweight and he's going to look the same as Mike Perry.

He's just like a dude who's two weight classes below. But Pereira, it's a different story. I'm not sending Pereira over. And I don't think Dana will entertain it at all. I think Dana will 100% get that question next weekend. and he will say, yeah, you know, he good for him. He knocked out a dude who washed out of the UFC. Great, he's been doing great things in BKFC.

They weren't fighting bare knuckle because he's too big coward. Like Alex Breyer is here to fight the best. Alex Breyer is here to fight at heavyweight or whatever. Like they just gain so little. There is a lot of money to be made with that fight. Don't get me wrong. But that's a one-time pull. And you're giving Jake, like, because if you're going to do that fight,

you want to do a big promotional push behind it, too, to really max value here, which just give Jake a billion opportunities to be like, Dana, why are you scared of me? And he doesn't pay his fighters. And all these, like, crew and terrible things about the UFC, let me put them out there in a way that Dana kind of will be forced to confront. The juices is simply not worth to squeeze.

So, again, that's why it's a brilliant callout. Like, I think there is a zero percent chance that Alex Brer can fight Jake Ball prior to, finishing his contract, which I have no idea what the contract is like for Alex Burr. I assume he's got many fights left on it. So there's just no way he's going to entertain this. There's some upside, but the upside is money. They already are raking in money as fast as they possibly can. They don't need more money. Everywhere they go, they sell out and have the biggest gate ever. So no, he's not going to entertain at all. I had time to digest this. while I love it and think it's a fantastic call out,

as Jed has laid out. There's two reasons this will never happen, and there are two very important reasons. Number one, and Jed kind of touched on this a little bit. If you say, I'm going to do this, you give legitimacy to Jake Paul. You now say to Jake Paul, like not only Jake Paul, but MVP, you give most valuable promotions to say,

we are equal with the UFC. They can now say, hey, we are going into this, and we are here, and we are partners. in an event with the UFC. That's something that you can't give up as leverage if you're the UFC. Second important reason. If, uh, if, wow, I was so stuck on that one.

I lost my second reason. Come back to me. I have a good reason. Here's the second reason. It might be the one because as you were talking. Oh, I got it. Sorry. If you do it, then Francis comes. Like the question is, why aren't we doing Francis? No, that is a good one. But I remembered the other one, which is, Jake Paul has been presented in a certain way as this thorn in the UFC side and Dana White's side. He's not. He just operates a completely separate business that is successful.

And he is in no way stopping the UFC's business in no way a thorn in their side. In no way changing anything. He has talked about fighter unions and all these things. None of that has come to come to pass. None of that has. There's no fruit on that tree. So he's not a thorn in their side. So why would Dana White even give the time of day?

why would Dana White even for one second break stride on what he's focused on and what he's doing to say like, we need to eliminate this guy. We need to kill the Jake Paul threat. Jake Paul's not a threat unless you make him one. And so he's not a thorn in the side and it gives legitimacy to both Jake Paul and MVP. There's no reason to do it. There's just no reason if you're the UFC or Dana White to do it. If there was something that Jake Paul was disrupting and impeding and actually doing, yeah, maybe you say, I'm sick of this guy, Alex go nuke him. but it's just like he's doing a completely separate thing. There's no reason. Those are the two things that will prohibit this. Fair.

Jed, plus like, please. I would say plus as remote a possibility as it exists. There is always the outside chance Jake would win. And then that's a full-blown catastrophe. That's just the worst thing that's ever happened to me, to you, certainly to Dana White.

So yeah, you just can't do that. The image of Jake Paul's ending on the corner post with his arm in the air, with his boxing glove in the air, and Alex Pereira slumped, slept in the middle of the cage, I mean in the middle of the ring, would just be absolutely incredible. I mean, again, I think it's a very, very remote, like a one in 10,000 chance. But like, there's also, you know, it's boxing. Maybe the first punch cuts Pereira open on the eyelid and suddenly we're getting the cuts. Like, weirdness can happen.

and God, you can't, you cannot open that possibility because then you cook. So no, no. It'd be, it'd be pretty fun. I always will watch Alex Perea boop somebody and we would poop him. You would boop him. But you can't, you can't invite the opportunity there. Before I go, because I'm going to bounce because I think I'm done here. What was the hot stuff from the UFC tonight?

Oh, and also, whatever that dude's name is, who killed H-2-0, I can't body. Yes. That was sick. That was the cool. I told you guys in the preview show, whenever I go to a event, at least one super cool thing happens, that was unbelievable.

You sit here and watch a man get like real bad hurt, like real bad hurt. So yeah. Every of those last three shots was just a nail. Like every single one of them was a boom, boom, boom. Like just killer. If he doesn't hit the last, two.

H-2 wasn't going to come back from the first. Like he's just not going to beat the count.

He's going to do the stumble around thing. Functionally, Perry did. And instead, he got two

males driven in. Yeah. That was something. That was great angle, too, just like watching it. Oh, there's something special.

One of the, one of the year. Kato the year, comeback of the year for boxing. Terrific stuff. What did I, anything big major

that I missed? I saw some of the UFC, but let me know what I need to hit up to make sure I check out. You need to go watch the fight I told you was going to rule. And it was only a minute long. Hyder.

Emile, just doing Hyder Amil things, my friend, delivered in space. I did see my boy Du Ho-Choi. I saw the Korean Superboy. Jump some gillies, like an absolute savage, and then break a man's face. Just the successor to Dustin Poirier in all aspects, way to go, Du Ho-Toy. Well, fellas, I mean, get out of here because they're turning off lights in places, which means... Okay, one last thing. One last thing. So a KO like bodyhead or a one hitter quitter, which gives you more of that when you see those three land like that or is it the one hitter?

Yeah, me too. The body. Yeah, me too. Me too. I mean, one hit or quitters are cool, but that's just a three hitter quitter. Like, it's just absolute. And especially because watching it live, like, I had the whole. whole reaction of I was watching it and I saw his head get snapped on the first one.

I was like, oh, and then went, oh, so it's the roller coaster of, oh, oh, you get the two on it. It was. Yeah. And then he just plants. That was. And then I still don't understand why the ref was like trying to pants him. Just bodies trying to run away. And the rest was just like elbow deep in the shorts holding him back.

I didn't get it either. I didn't get that one. I have no idea what was going on. But no one was paying attention because this whole place lost. It's buy for that, as you can imagine. And it was really needed at that time, too, because things had started to drag in a way that was tough, and that just brought the whole place to life,

and then we never lost that energy for the rest of the night. The fight before was great, though. But, yeah, you always need a finish to, like, take the momentum. The fight before started well, and then ended a little, like, they just both kind of slowed down. And so we really needed a finish, and, like, a finish like that, because the Amanda Serrano finish was fun,

but it was fun because we were already up. Like, you're just kind of clubbing around some poor woman is not the energy pill you needed. We needed that, and then it carried us right through. And this place was hopping, man. I think everyone here feels they got their money's worth and we'll come back if they do again. So credit to you, MVP, put on a good damn show.

Well, you always put on a good damn show, Jed, when you're in Tampa. So we appreciate your service. Do my best. your coverage and I mean way to take advantage of the best seat in the house my man it's been it's been quite fun

you can see look at the progress they've made as we're wow everything's coming down you know these people aren't trying to stay here late which is why I'm trying getting hustled out of here other than the media room which is way down there but fellas it's been a pleasure you take care of these wonderful viewers viewers

I love you all and next week road to 304 begins yes right we'll see you see in a week at Casa Day apex my friend it'll be electric love you all yes bye is Jedmishu

giving us some on locale stuff we also had the UFC inaction Vernaginjarova gets a submission went over Amanda Lemosch gets herself a bonus might even get herself a title shot in New York Rick after that performance she's just on a tear right now

and, you know, Tatiana Suarez, we're ready, we're willing and able, we wanted to see it, we get Janjana instead, which is fine. She deserved a title shot as well. Zhang Wei did Zhang Wei things, and now Tatiana remains a mystery. We don't know when she's coming back, but we know Varnagina Jani-Roba will be ready to go if that opportunity arises. So I think it's fair, so true or false, dear Rick, Vannegerna-Jorba's next fight will be be for the UFC

Straway title. Yeah, I think that's true. I think that's true even if she is not next for the title. I think her next fight will be for the title. Yes. Yeah, she's just been on a tear. Like doing that to Amanda Lomash, it's not easy to do, man.

She's incredible, man. She's, she's, the strike, look, she has a skill that other people can't seem to find a way to counter. Like her grappling, the way she flows, she's on a level above everybody else. That is just how that is.

The striking is still rudimentary. It's still rough. You can still find her in the striking exchanges. But if she gets you on the ground, you're cooked. You're just cooked. Like she is a level above. She is a cut above there in the grappling department. And so I'm interested.

I'm interested to see her in a title fight. I just don't see it like, I could see a world just because like she's not a big name. Let's call it like, you know, she doesn't have the glitz and the glit. Like there's a, there's momentum behind Tatiana Suarez from a non like, recent run of fights perspective. Just people know her name. People have heard of her for so long. And she's been in these high profile moments and and people can can grab onto that.

Verna has like fought in prelim fights. and like she just hasn't had that same spotlight shown on her. And so it's harder to be like, yeah, we want her to fight for the title. But if given the opportunity, man, it would be a fun matchup. And so I think her next fight will be for a title because like what else would you do at this point? Like who else do you fight? There's a world where they just go, hey, fight Tatiana or fight Yan Shan Shanana? Like I guess, but like, I don't know.

You should do Tatiana and then do. you, Verna. That's my. I mean, as I say, and I've been saying for the last two years, availability is your best friend. Totally. Zhang Wei, Zhang Wei wants to fight in Salt Lake City in October. Verna's ready to go. When Tatiana ain't, she's going to get the shot.

You're right. You're right. It's really Tatiana's to lose, right? Like, we would expect that they'd want to do that because it's a bigger name and a bigger profile. But like, if you can't go, yeah, Verna, give her the call. You're right. Great performance from her. She gets it done.

Arm bar, round two. First main event, delivers in spades. Steve Garcia bumped up to the co-main event after we lost the Iron Turtle. I know our fans are not to be pleased with that. But Steve Garcia, four KOs in a row. Dude, just crushing the game, 96 seconds. Gets rid of Sungwu Choi, who if you watch the watch parties, we have collected about 600 Sungwu Choy cards.

Kurt Hollabo gets a victory. Bruno Silva, come back, uppercut knockout, knocking out the mouthpiece of Cody Durden, was not looking good for Bruno Silva at all on that fight. Cody was looking like a friggin world beater,

but Bruno Silva is a dangerous man, New York, Rick. Yes, yes, he is, and well-deserved bonus for him. Like, that was really impressive to keep the composure there and find that opportunity against a really tough guy in Dirden. uh what else happened on this card we mentioned do ho choy the crean super boy yeah come gets a nice knock on

of bill a joe hider amiel jesus christ your boy freaking legend absolute legend uh landed a 38 punch combination to finish young young lee that was insane uh the craziest 65 seconds you will see at the world's most famous apex year uh cody gibson submits brian kelleher miranda maverick decision win, Trey Ogden decision win, Luana Carolina decision win. And in the easiest bet to be cashed on this Saturday, the card opener and the heavyweight division

went over two and a half rounds. I mean, it just could not be any easier. Thomas Peterson gets the victory over Mo Ousman. Yeah, not a fight. Not all in all, like a fine night. For a fight night that was much maligned, right? Like, I think, you know,

people were kind of down on this. card. It had some really high moments. It had some malaise. Don't get me wrong. Like there were some lulls. But like it had some really fun and exciting stuff. Yes. So there you go. Someone asked what bonuses were. Silva, a meal, obviously. If you don't give Haider a meal. Like I said, if you didn't give him one, I would have thrown my laptop out the window. John Jiropa, Steve Garcia. I

When Jed asked What did I need to watch I would have been like I was going to say Just look up the bonuses And go and go watch those That's how this went He would have missed Korean Superboy

But he said he saw that anyway So it all worked out Yeah there's no way You're missing that So Okay well Let's hear from you guys Let's go to the peeps

I'm curious to see how this will go Yeah I don't even know what the scenes But big Van Vader with the WCW Heavyweight title in the in the photo there ever price will 19 year old Raros Jr. proposed to Vernaganger over at the sphere there'd be one heck of a red panty noche I get ever know I get it with the he's alluding to like the hair they have the the same hair yeah um no I don't imagine so Charles has insane question but who wins in

boxing Jake Paul or I just John this is John Jones yeah Yeah. Jake Paul. John Jones has, like, John Jones's boxing has never been his thing. Like, John, you know, John's more of an elbows, teeps, you know, kind of guy. Like, I don't rate John Jones as like some great technical boxer. I think Jake, I think Jake has a real advantage there.

So, yeah, I'd go with Jake. I don't know. I'd have to think about that. John's hands are not like the the bread and butter. He's also a giant. So, and he's freakishly athletic. And Jake's quick.

And Jake's getting better. There's no doubt about it. But John could probably like, why do you keep Jake away from him? How much bigger is John than Jake? Honestly, I don't think he's that much bigger. 40 pounds?

No, come on. John says he's 260 right now. I believe him. There's, all right, Jake's definitely not too 20. Jake's probably, 225? 230,

235? He doesn't look like... He ain't 235, dude. Come on. He looks like it was a little bit of a difficult. Well, I'll look at the difference in the, in the, the musculature of Alex Pereira and Jake Paul, right? Jake Paul's got some chubb.

Like, Jake Paul's got some flab to him. He's never like, he's never really like shredded, shredded. For heavyweight John Jones is not either. to be fair in both sides of the scenario. Yeah, I don't know. I think Jake. I think Jake on that one. John's weapons are vastly superior to Jake Paul's weapons.

But when you're limiting John's weapons, like, yeah, I just feel like that's in Jake's wheelhouse. Kickboxing, John Jones absolutely decimates him. A lot of people are just ripping Mike Perry in the chat here. What? I thought that was a valiant performance. I don't understand the hate I truly don't

I know he didn't win and I don't give me a summary don't don't necessarily read some like hate but like give me what's the what's the vibe that you're getting right now it's supposed to like terrible performance how did he perform like that

Mike Perry sucks nah man that's that's not what I saw that's not what I saw I saw a dude who was at a real physical disadvantage and it's a really big opponent who focuses full time on boxing and has the resources and funds to spend all their time preparing for boxing. Mike Perry's launching a promotion, working on BKFC stuff. Remember that this

was not the fight for July 20th. The fight for July 20th was supposed to be Mike Tyson and Mike Perry stepping into that opportunity. Like the cards were stacked against them and he stepped on the gas pedal and tried to make something happen. I'm not down on Mike Perry. Yeah, like I'm seeing a lot of this too. Perry forgot his fundamentals at home. Like, have you ever watched Mike Perry fight?

Like, Mike's not a boxer. Like, that was the big thing in this fight. Like, Mike's just going to sit there and take punishment and be a dog. Like, it was the durability that made this fight interesting. It wasn't Mike's technical boxing prowess that made this fight interesting. Mike fights like that all. the time. Like he's not a, he's not going to bounce around and be like Shane McMahon walking down the aisle. He's going to just march forward and punch you a bunch and get hit a million times.

Like that's who Mike Perry is. I don't know what you all are expecting. No, Mike Perry needed to make Jake Paul wilt and he did not. That was the game plan. That was, that was how Mike Perry's going to win. It was not by being like a superior technical boxer or even a great technical boxer. Never. Like that's just not Mike Perry. What I was surprised to hear, though, I will admit in the ring was Mike Perry pointing out the speed. Like he just felt like Paul was faster, which obviously is a bigger man. Like that's good. That's an impressive thing for Paul.

I'm more impressed by Paul than down on Perry. If I have to like lean one direction or the other, I'm more impressed by Paul than I am thinking like Perry didn't show up. So that's my feeling. That's my stance on it. Yeah. We also have to take into some account. And I'm not making excuses. Like, the fight went the way that it went.

I picked Jake Paul to win and he won. Mike had a month to prepare for this fight. Not even. This is what I was saying earlier. Very quickly. Very quickly. The deck was stacked against Mike in every possible way here. Like, you're, you have to grade on a curve.

You have to be fair to Mike Perry in this scenario. I know that's not like, everybody doesn't want to hear that. And it's like, you know, there's only winners and losers. I know that that's how the internet sentiment is. but like he was not the original opponent. It was Mike Tyson. He's at a severe, severe size disadvantage. And he's just not a boxer.

He's a BKFC fighter. Like this, it was not set up for Mike Perry to win. It would have been an underdog story. I thought there was a world. I personally, I had a small wager on Mike Perry. I thought there was a world where he could make Jay Paul, Paul, Will, right? At the end of round three, it seems.

Like at the end of round two, it looked like even though he got knocked down, you're right. Even at the end of two. He ended round two with momentum. Yeah, it felt like he was turning up and Jake Paul was turning down. And then it flipped again in round four and it was not. And Jake Paul took back over. And I think again, that's a more credit to Jake Paul than than a shortcoming of Mike Perry. So I was more impressed on that side.

Don't get me wrong. Like I wasn't like, I don't think I know Jake Paul has fancies himself like he's going to fight Canelo one day and he's going to be a world champion boxer. He's not. I just cannot. He's not that good. He is just not that good. But I'm more impressed by him every performance. I'm more and more impressed by him every performance. And this was a good performance by him, in my opinion. Yeah, I completely agree. Tristan, how many fights is Hyder Amel to win in order to get into title contention due to his age? He said he's trying to move up the featherweight rankings quickly. this is the Alex Pereira model right you gotta get it while you can

I mean they just they keep throwing him in these fights where like they think he's gonna lose and then he just goes out and wins like I think he was yeah he was an underdog against Fernie Garcia he was an underdog tonight and he's got by the way him not getting a bonus against Ferney Garcia was a travesty I'll just throw that out there but uh I don't know. You know what?

You know what we should do? Tell me. You know what we should do? Let's go. We throw those two crazy SOBs against each other. We do Hyder Emile versus Steve Garcia. Because someone's going night, night, and it's going to happen in under two minutes,

and someone's going to get either hit with one big shot or with 47 consecutive punches. By the way, shout out to Jung-Yung Lee for not falling down. I don't know how that was possible. His chin. His chin was insane. Like, he was just getting dummied around, like, and somehow kind of still with it. Yeah.

That would be fun. I don't hate that fight at all. That's the fight to make. They're like, I see Joseph Bose saying, should he get a ranked guy? Guys, pump the brakes a little bit. Like, pump the brakes. Featherweight is like the deep is like the third deepest division in the sport. He's get wins over Chase Hooper, Shaila Nurdin Beka, Melchaseel Costa, and Sung Wu Choi.

Like, fine wins, but it's not like he beat Nate Landware tonight. He goes on, knocks out Nate Landware in 96 seconds. Sure, we can give him a top 15 guy. He goes out and knocks out, Hakeem Dawadu. Sure, Sadiq Yusuf, fine. Kyle Nelson, cool. Cubs Swanson, nice, I'm okay with that. Sung Wu Choi, no.

Not, doesn't get you a top 15 guy. Yeah, agreed. Left lane. All in favor of Paul getting booped by Alex Pereer. Shout out Emil, him versus Silva. It's going to be stupid in the best kind of way. Ooh. Hyder Amil versus John Silva? Damn.

That's fun. There's some real violence potential there, yeah. He's got to make weight, though. Five and six on picks, some Michael Johnson stats. I had a pretty good night with the picks. I had a pretty good night with the picks. What else we got? What else we got?

Conner, Five. He fired him, yes. We'll see. But that is fascinating. Robert, Perry deserves respect. He's a badass. He don't box. Try boxing a boxer.

It's actually a different sport. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, we are, we are as a community, and I am considering myself part of this, I don't think of Jake Paul as, like, tough. I just don't think of Jake Paul as tough. I can't shake the idea that, like, somebody is going to wilt him. And I have fallen victim to that by thinking, well, Anderson Silva is going to really hit him a few times and he's going to will. Right. I thought that. Or, man, Tyrone Woodley does have that power. When he puts that power on him, it's going to feel different. He's boxed so many rounds in his, you know, in training. Tyron Woodley's, even though he's not a boxer, he's box. Mike Perry, right? Mike Perry, it's not about the technique. But if he gets in his face and he just puts that pressure on him and starts putting. the hands on him, he's going to will. I have fallen victim to that. I have thought that.

I think tonight is a night where I finally can go, yeah, it's just not true. It's just not true. He's tough. He's not even just tougher than I thought he was. He's actually tough. He's just tough, objectively. He's a tough person. And when you have somebody like that, you can't just go to MMA and be like, we're going to pick our toughest, like a Mike Perry, and put him in there and he's going to win. It's just, it's just not going to happen. So now we are at the point where it's like, yeah, we need to find people who can box. We need to find people who can box to give Jake Paul a competitive fight. Because otherwise, these tough guys are just not going to beat him. They are not tougher than him. They're tough, but they're not tougher than him. He's just as tough as

they are. So that's, that's a fascinating thing that I think I can finally say, like, I'm putting to bed. Like, I don't feel like I'm going to fall for the thing again where it's like, yeah, but if they put in this guy who's really tough with him he's going to beat him now if you put in a devastating monster who is also a better boxer in alix perera with there in there with jake paul yeah he's going to sleep him he's going to sleep him bad because he's a better boxer than he is but it's not it's not this thing that like he's tough he's tougher than him it's just not it's just not it's just not it. Jake Paul's tough, period. End of story. Like, he's, he's a tough fighter.

Um, he can, he can handle adversity. Like, don't forget, like, he got rocked by Tyron Woodley. Like, he, he was hanging out on the ropes. Like, the dude is tough. And, uh, yeah, you're just, you're just not going to wilt them like that. You need to be able to box a little bit too. Look, the one loss he has. Who, who's he lost to? Tommy Fury. Tommy Fury. Who can box? And I wouldn't consider, like, particularly tough or something. who's going to put pressure on him in that way.

He lost to a better boxer. That is how Jake Paul's going to lose fights. It ain't going to be to somebody who's just tougher than him. We've seen it now a few times. I fell for it. And we shouldn't fall for it again. Do you care about the KSI fight? Do you want to see that?

Nah, man. I did for a bit. I did for a real bit, but it seems like KSI, look, if I have to put portion of the blame pie, I really feel like it's on KSI side. I think he doesn't want to do it. I think if anything, Jake Paul has proven, like, he really does want to kind of, like, escalate the challenges and kind of does want to, like, do something more. KSI's doing, like, goofy two-on-one stuff. I know that's their gimmick at Misfits.

I know that they're, like, pushing that because they want to do that. But I feel like KSI doesn't want to fight. That's my outside perception. I'm sure behind the scenes, there's more to that story, but I just don't feel like KSI wants to fight. And so, yeah, man, like, I don't want to see anybody fight who doesn't want to fight. This fight could have been made if it was supposed to happen. So I'm with you. Like, nah, I'm good.

I don't need. It's not this one that, like, I need to see. I'll tell you which one I'm way more interested in. Jake Paul versus Logan Paul. I don't think it'd be a good fight. I think Jake would beat the living shit out of him because I don't think Logan Paul's a particularly good boxer. But he's massive. He's a big dude.

And it'd just be, the buildup would be incredible for brother versus brother. I'd much rather see Logan versus Jake than Jake versus KSI. It's not doing it for me anymore. KSI. I don't think that's why it's even competitive. In their primes who won, Kevin Railman versus Brock Lesnar, also which tattoo is scarier,

eyes looking backwards or skyward facing Chiwiwiwi. I love this because on the watch party for, on the watch party for Jake Paul versus Mike Perry. We learned that Mike Heck, one Mike Heck, is the number one Brock Lesnar believer. He believes that at 50, well, how old was he? 50 something or approaching 50? I don't even remember. Whatever age Brock Lesnar is right now, Mike, Mike believes that Brock will roll into the ring

and just manhandle Jake Paul. That's, that's his belief. You give him, he needs time. You give him six to nine months to nine months to prepare solely for Jake Paul. He beats him. He beats him in a boxing match. because he's a freak and if you give him

six to nine months to solely focus on anything he's going to do it and do it tremendously. Even at the advanced age that he is. Yeah, he's a 50 year old going on 33.

He's not a human being. He's also kind of a piece of shit too, if we're being honest. I don't want to leave that out of the equation allegedly, allegedly. Yeah. Based on some of the things that are out there.

but at the same token, the dude is one of the most freakish athletes we've ever seen. I grant you that. But Father Time is undefeated, and he's getting up there in age. Like, like, he's younger than Mike Tyson, I believe? I don't know how old he is. I honestly don't know.

He ain't sick. Mike Tyson's 60. He ain't 60. He just can't box, though. He got no hands. He got no hands. Dude, Brock's 47. He's a youngster.

He's a baby. I just, I just don't, even if, yeah, he's got no hands, man. Jake, Jake Paul would touch him off. He's got lunchboxes for hands. Lunch boxes. He's like five XL gloves. See, this is Montel Jackson is bigger hands of that, man. Mike, that's a good shout.

You're doing the thing. You're doing what I just said. Brock Lesnar made a different material, man. He's just so tough. He's just so strong. He's a freak athlete. You're doing it. You're doing the exact thing.

Brock doesn't like to get hit, though. so that does make Oh yeah, no shit. Does not like to get hit. But it's going to get in there and get jabbed in the face once and crumple.

He's going to be 330 pounds when he fights Jake Paul. Yeah, no, it's just not. But I'm just glad I got to relive that from that question. I know. Oh yeah, by the way.

So Randleman or Brock who wins? Prime matchup. You have to think Brock, right? Just a little more of an evolution by that point. It's hard. to do like an era versus era thing, right? Because at the time that Randerman was fighting,

like the sport was so much more rudimentary and so much more like you, you could be so singularly focused and be so successful. Um, like, call it what it is. Randomin got by on just being what you said about Brock, right? The freakiest athlete. Like just being such a physical specimen. Brock had to have a little more skill than that, I think, by the time that he came around. then you reach the skill ceiling for him. And then you get a guy like Kane Velasquez who's like possibly one of the most well-rounded, most skilled fighters we've ever seen. And you hit that ceiling and you can't overcome that.

So I'd go, I'd go Brock, but more of just like, I don't know because we're looking at eras, right? Like it's just Brock was at an era where you had to be better at all the things than you had to be when random men fought. And Brock is also a monster. And he's also. But by the time he got into the cage, he was like $2.95. Yeah, you, you, you're a fucking animal. You, you were very rarely going to be in a situation where you're like, that guy's a better athlete potentially than Kevin Randleman.

And then you're like, oh, Brock Lesnar is actually that guy. So that's, like, it's, it's hard to pick against Brock there. Alexander, how about Tyron versus Perry in BKFC? Tyrant seemed hungry in the combos of Ariel and Perry needs a bounce back. I mean, it'd be a good bounce back from Mike Perry. but it would be a good. Yeah. I don't want to see Tyrant in there.

Like Tyrant doesn't. After seeing him just get annihilated by Jake and just seeing him not even really throw punches and just seeing how the end of his UFC career went where he just would sit with his back against the fence and not do anything. Like I think Mike Perry badly hurts him. Like badly hurts him. Yeah. If he's, if he has that level of activity, he's going to just get absolutely obliterated by, by Mike Perry.

To me, the first, the first Paul and Tyron Woodley fight was very compelling to me. I still look back on that and go, that was a really, like, compelling, interesting fight. And it seemed like Tyrant kind of found some things there that I thought were going to be like carrying over and if given the second opportunity,

and then just Jake Paul evolved and had a much stronger showing in that second fight. You know, meme-dom. If that Woodley shows up, It's actually, I think semi interesting, but I do think ultimately like Mike Perry's going to put something on Tyron that he's just not ready for. And then you like, there's a real thing when people do bare knuckle for the first time that it's just like, oh shit. Like this is not what I prepared for. I thought like, yeah, I'm tough.

I can handle it. And then you do it and you're like, oh shit. You can, you can like see the moments in the fights when guys do that. Like once Luke Rockhold like lost parts of his men. mouth. It was just like, fuck, this, this was not what I wanted. God, goddamn. I thought I was going to just come in here and style Mike Perry. And then he hit me a few times with these, with these, uh, bare knuckles. And oh, shit. This is not it. Yeah. If Tyrone Woodley gets hit with some of that, I have a feeling that it's just going to be like, oh shit. And this is Mike Perry's

advantage because he doesn't give a shit. If you hit him, he's been in there and he's felt it and he loves it. And he will be like, yeah, give me more of that. So it's tough. I don't think Tyron and Wadley's the right opponent, but I wouldn't like not watch it if they booked it. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense for the business model, for sure. Yeah. I just kind of feel like if Tyrant

was going to do it, he would have already done it. You know what I mean? Like, they would have done, like, him and Hector Lombard of VKFC. Yeah. And those two were beven. Like, that just seemed like a no-brainer right there. So, uh, there you go. Uh, who's the NBA fighter who can beat Jake?

We already know the answer to this. It's Brock Lesnar and well done well done well done it's the big booper it's Pereira that's why the fight's never gonna happen there's a lot of guys you if you are a better boxer than jake paul if you are a more crafty boxer than jake paul like you'll you'll beat jake paul that as i've kind of like been hitting on and maybe beating to death at this point like the path for an m m mhm a fighter to beat jake paul is to be a better boxer you need to be a better boxer Anderson Silva's kind of an exception

because he does weird shit, right? Like he's a better boxer, but like he also decides to take rounds off and do weird shit. Yeah, which is so annoying about that fight because he could have won. He could have beat Jake Paul very easily. Like it was there for him.

He could have won. Yeah. He could have won. Okay, so who will Mike fight next? I mean, go fight Connor McGregor and as Lazy Bed put it, a Steve Austin versus Vince McMahon type situation. I love that idea.

I am truly at this moment at 2.24 a.m. Eastern time, not sure that Mike Perry will be a BKFC fighter after this moment. So I honestly don't know, like, if he will be in BKFC and that will be his next fight or I'll have to do something in his own promotion or what. Like, I truly don't, like, even if even if that is not bullshit, that's a real weird thing that happened from the Connor McGregor tweet. And so I. I don't know how Mike Perry's future looks. It's weird. It's very weird. Connor McGregor is an owner with a significant stake in BKFC. It is interesting because BKFC like BKFC needs Mike Perry. They need him. Like he is.

Do they need Connor more? Here's my argument. Let me lay this out because I have thoughts on this. Yeah. Okay. You need Mike Perry if you're BKFC and you definitely need. Mike Perry, like past tense, you needed Mike Perry to give your organization some legitimacy in terms of we have a guy who's really successful and can draw people in and make people

care about fights. And when our event has this guy, you'll tune in. They did that. And that, and that was successful. And they need Mike Perry in that regard. And he's still the flag bearer for that. But how many times can you do that before it, it plateaus and you can't reach that next level, right? There's, you can do that for a while. You can do the Mike Perry stuff for quite a bit and people will still tune in. But there is a burnout point. There's a point where they just go, yeah, do you not, do you, have you run out of opponents? Do you have guys for Mike Perry? If BKFC had all these guys lined up that they wanted Mike Perry to fight that people will be interested in, he'd be fighting for BKFC. He wouldn't be chasing these boxing fights because they pay him well enough. They'd say, hey, get in there with this guy. His last fight against Tiago Alva, like, I don't know how many people really wanted to. He's, like, I don't know how many people really wanted to. He's, he'd be fighting. to see that, right? Like, I think Rockhold people wanted to see. I think Eddie Alvarez people wanted to see. I don't know how many people really wanted to see Tiago Alvas.

So I think you reached a point where, like, maybe you haven't got the guys to challenge Mike Perry. And if you want to ascend, if you want to take BKFC to the next level, you kind of need a guy like Connor McGregor more. And I don't even mean that from a stepping in the, in the ring per se. If he ever stepped in the BKFC ring, like the rocket ship is flying. But I even mean just from the like promotional perspective,

the additional eyeballs that he could bring to your promotion, he will elevate it higher than Mike Perry could, even though I agree with you, he's the face, he's the star. You need him to a certain degree. I think you need Connor more. I think you need Connor significantly more. They need the problem with BKFC, and this has been a big problem with them for a while

is that Mike was a Mike was a star anyways like it was was a starish a popular cult like figure in the space and then he went over to BKFC and you like you saw how happy he was and that like this is the perfect spot for him and it was just like a perfect match

and now Mike is a legitimate pay-per-view draw like he's he's just in it's such a great spot right now but BKFC And he did this by himself, by the way. Like BKFC gave him the opportunity and Mike excelled and he got himself over in such a massive way. And then BKFC saw this and they brought in the right dance partners.

But Mike did a lot of that as well. They suck at creating stars. And even when it's right in front of their faces, they can't do it. Britton Hart should be a fucking superstar. Batched it so badly. Taylor Starling could have been a star for them. Batched it.

Like their women's division could be huge. Batched it all the way around. The fact that those two aren't like bigger stars right now is insane to me. And that's on them. They're very bad at creating new stars. So if you can't, unless you're going to do a model where it's like WWF does it and you pay $9.99 a month and then you get all the big cards including Knucklemania.

Yeah, maybe you can grow at that. way. But if you can't get a star to get you in the door, then you're in deep shit, man. Like Connor's, Connor can sit there and go show up to Spain and do the occasional press conference, but is Connor going to go to every single event? Is he going to be that guy? I don't know. And if, and even so, like, is people going to get sick of that? People got sick of them in the fucking ultimate fighter. After like three weeks, they were like, yeah, we're out. This is stupid. We're out. No more. I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know. You either take the star the front off, like the front office star that will show up to the like the

occasional event or the dude who will fight and bleed for you two or three times a year. Plus also show up to every single event. And who knows, you might even get in a fight with the fighter in the crowd and create a big moment. Mike's done that too. So I don't know. I see your point though. Here's the thing. You just mentioned like the star making problem.

I think a lot of promotions had that problem. If I'm being completely honest, like I don't think that's a B. KFC specific thing. Like, Bellator, PFL, like they all kind of have this problem. Like,

unless you are the UFC, creating genuine homegrown stars is very difficult. Connor McGregor is a star. You don't need to make a star. Like, he's your star. You just,

you just stick them on every single thing you've got and people will pay attention. And he's got a fight though, man. Well, he's got to fight. Yeah, man. if they, if he fought. And he's got to go to everything. He's got to go to everything. Well, that's it. He needs to be very aggressive in, in participating. Because if here, here's why people, the, the problem with BKFC not being able to build stars to an extent PFL, Belator. There's not enough people that care. There's not enough eyeballs on it. Like, the reality is, even if they have these amazing performances, like if a tree falls in the woods, man, you know, like if a tree falls in the woods. what you're guaranteeing when you involve Connor McGregor is you're not,

it's not a tree falling in the woods anymore. People will be watching. And if you, it's, I'll give you a perfect example. I was talking about it earlier when we were watching, the boxing fight, when we were watching Paul and Perry, I'm tuned in for these. And then there's every so often that person that shines on the card, right?

There's, there's somebody who makes an impression and you remember and you go, oh, I'm there. Body did that today. Body is the guy, right? Body is the one who we're going to go away and be like, yo, body. And that's only because we were tuning in for Perry and Paul. And so if you're tuning into BKFC because of Connor McGregor's involvement,

if you are now elevated, if you become a fan of this because Connor McGregor is drawing attention to this and somebody captivates you and somebody captures your attention, you're going to start building those stars. That is how it's going to happen. If he steps in the ring, man, the ceiling comes off. It's done. Yep. They become legitimate immediately.

So I just like, I don't know. Start making is so hard. Start making is so hard. The UFC has got it down because they have such a legacy of doing that and they are viewed as the best and they have such a fan base. But it's hard. But it's fat. I'm super fascinated by this whole thing. Alex Pereira has responded to Jake Paul.

I don't know I saw this on social media. And just very simple Alex Pereira ways. Because you know what, you know what happened with most fighters, New York, Rick, Connor McGregor, all the way down. We'd get paragraphs. Oh, yeah. We'd get a long-winded response. Oh, yeah.

Alex Pereira's, three words, one emoji, two exclamation points. Let's go Shama. Perfect. Yeah. That's just like when Alex Breyer is like, hey, Jamal Hill said this about you. he just goes, okay. Okay. That landed so much harder than anything Alex could have said long winded.

Perfect. Perfect response to Alex Pereira. And even Nina Drama's on there. Oh, what is she saying? Dana White, Dana White, on behalf of the MMA community, please send Alex Pereira to finish the job. You know what? He's got the support from Nina Drama, New York, Rick.

Does that change the way you do this now? The official voice, the official spokesperson of the fans for when it relates to UFC and the, the Dana White Whisperer. Stamp of approval. Are we are we now entering a world where Nina Drama is the one who can get this done? I don't, I don't think it's not possible. Nina, get it done. Get it done. Okay. This would be, this is, you can do all the interviews you want.

All of them. You can talk to Sean Strickland every day. And that's great. And things will be written about it. It'll be awesome. But if you can help make this happen, you'll be a legend forever. Okay?

Get it done. Does Nina drama like stand in the middle of them? Like to do like the face offs and like. If that's what it takes, I don't care. I don't care if she's the color commentator, the lead commentator, the backstage interviewer,

the in ring interviewer. I do not care. If she helps facilitate this, give her what she wants. Do it. I'm in. Let's take a few more super chats to we get again. Pequot, Whitehawk.

Do you think the weight matchup was unfair in this fight? And who do you think would win in a Jake Paul versus Tommy Fury rematch? I don't think the weight matchup was unfair because I knew what this is going to look like. I didn't think it was going to look that significant. But we knew that Jake was going to be much bigger and much larger than Mike Perry.

I didn't think it was going to be that much, though. But they both weighed in and the cruiser weight. you know, sort of allotted numbers there, it's fine. If, if the weight was not, I said, I said the same thing about the, the Mike Tyson fight. If the weight was fair, then Mike Perry's going to beat him. Like, that's, that's why this matters. Like, the weight being unfair is why we have it. Is, is why this is a compelling fight. So, no, I don't think it was unfair. I think it made the fight fair. Again, like, Jake Paul's been doing this for less time.

You know, there's all these reasons why you, why if you're looking at Jake Paul, he needs that advantage. And so, no, I think that was exactly how that was supposed to kind of go. Thank you, Nate. And then Alex, last one. Shout out M.A.R. Love it so much. Would Jed ever make a guest appearance?

Forget BKFC boxing, Ariel versus Jed, hot take city. Ariel versus Jed. Okay. Um, would, would Jed ever make an appearance? I mean, MMA hour is not really like, like, there was a time where, um, journalists used to come on, but like that era hasn't been in effect in a long time.

So I don't know. I don't think that's in the cards. Not, not because of anything Jed has done. Uh, shout out to you, New York, Rick. Thank you. Love you, bud. Oh, there's dates. Uh, do you sleep at all on fight nights?

No. Yeah, not really. I ask you. Who could sleep after excitement like that? I mean, Mike Perry's fired. Alex Pereira is fighting Jake Paul. Like, what would you even sleep for? Like,

and also, just in general, like, crime fighters never sleep. So why would I sleep? Dustin Jacoby is also called for the Jake Paul fight. Huh? He tweeted an hour ago. I promised on everything I'd beat Jake Paul in a boxing match. Respect to Mike Perry, but he wouldn't stand a chance with me. I mean, shoot your shot, bro, but you ain't getting it.

No. Paul needs to give you a trim. Who? Oh, my hair? No, what do you think, Mike? It looks tremendous. I think so, too. I don't know.

I feel like I'm in a... Envious. I feel like I'm in a good spot right now. I don't think... Yeah, let's go. Don't have to deal with that. I am, like, roasted today. I was on the golf course for, like,

on Cartpath-only day, on a Saturday. I was baking. What does Cartpath only mean? For the uninitiated? We got absolutely destroyed with rain Friday night. So we showed up and played golf and like normally when you ride in a car, you can drive all over the course and just like if you hit a ball in the middle of the ferry, you can drive your cart to the middle of the fairway to your ball and hit the ball and go.

Yeah. But you have to stay on the car path. So if the car path's on the right hand side and you hit the ball on the left side of the fairway, you have to park and then walk all the way to your ball. Oh, and walk all the way back. And just makes the round, I don't care, but it makes. around a lot longer and you're a glistering sun for a lot longer so i got it uh there you go everybody i was in my pool so i'm also you know feeling some some some uh vibes yes uh well hope you guys

have been feeling the vibes throughout uh hope you guys had a great time and come on like i see all the people just shitting on mike perry like come on now not i don't get it i don't get it everybody it's okay It's okay. Guy went in there. He made a bag of money. He was a big underdog in the fight. There's a reason why he was a big underdog in the fight.

We tried to tell you he was an underdog in the fight. It's okay. Dude went in there. It did his best. Got an opportunity. What was supposed to say no? Because the fans don't think I will win or they'll be mad at me because of my performance. Come on now.

Relax. Everybody chill out. It's going to be okay. But ladies and gentlemen, It's 239 a.m. Eastern on Sunday morning, which means we are officially in UFC 304 Fight Week. Yes, Leon Edwards Blumont, too. We're here. Tommy Aspinall, Curtis Blades for the interim heavyweight championship of the universe. King Green versus Patty Pimbley. Apparently Christian Leroy Duncan and Robocop is on the main card, which is a damn good fight, by the way. We will also get Arnold versus Skie in Chicago. Mahama Makaiyaf versus middle cop probably a number one contender fight at 125 pounds. Very much looking forward to UFC 304, spectacular main card. And it's going to be a good time, you're, Rick.

You ready for 304? Are you getting fired up? Are you at the 13 level, as you were, for Mike Perry, Jake Paul? I'm pretty excited. I am a big believer in Tom Aspinall, and so I want to see that Curtis Blades rematch and hopefully him go on to bigger and better if he can pull it off. So I'm pretty hype. And the card itself is like fantastic, top to bottom.

But for me, Tom, is the big draw. Yep. Well, we'll get you ready all week long. Stick with us, M.Afighting.com for New York, Rick. I am Mike Hack. Good night, everybody. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.