MMA Fighting - Paul vs. Tyson Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Jake Paul's Win Over Mike Tyson, Netflix Boxing Debut

Episode Date: November 16, 2024

Jake Paul and Mike Tyson went a full eight rounds in their highly promoted main event boxing matchup at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas. While the 58-year-old Tyson left the squared circle without taking major damage, the bout certainly seemed underwhelming to the vast majority of viewers on Netflix. Where do both guys now go from here? Following Friday's event, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew react to Paul's unanimous decision victory over Tyson, discuss why, although it wasn't a memorable contest, it was the right decision, Tyson's boxing future, and who Paul could face next. Additionally, they discuss the incredible rematch between Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano, the controversial scorecards, if a third fight could be next for both women, other highlights from the card, the many streaming issues audiences had throughout the night during the main card, Dana White's big fight announcements during the Paul vs. Tyson main event, and much more. Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're back, Mama. We couldn't be more back. Welcome to the Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson post-fight show, which obviously we're watching Netflix right now. And boy, the stream looks fantastic right now. Tough night. Shocker. Tough night for Netflix to begin things. But in the end, if you're just joining us and did not watch the fight,

Jake Paul defeats Mike Tyson The unanimous decision Sweeps one card I believe One card and then one one round Seven to one on the other two cards Jake Paul beats Mike Tyson Be unanimous decision

Jed for anybody who has listened to our programming For the last several weeks For those who read our roundtable This is exactly the fight We hoped to it happened We put it out into the universe And begged the boxing gods to give us and this is exactly what happened.

Now, I know it might be boring to some, but Mike Tyson is 58 friggin years old, and this was the best result that could have happened, right? 100%. And, like, I, well, during our brief little break there, I popped on a little Twitter machine and checked sort of the messages, and I was not surprised to see,

but a lot of messages from people I respect and, like, in the industry, saying I was worse than I thought, that was terrible, blah blah. I was like, guys, what did what did you think was happening here? Like that was the best outcome. And I always thought it was the most likely outcome. For a brief minute during the fight, there looked like maybe it wasn't going to be that outcome. Maybe Jake Paul was really going to try to get there and get after him and then didn't.

And thank goodness he didn't because for all the people right now saying that was boring, whatever. If you are not a longtime combat sports fan, you're tuning in for the spectacle and happened upon us. Happy to have you. Hope you stick around with us in the future. I absolutely understand you people not being a vibe there. But for the people who are regulars,

tune in and watch this stuff, you've got to be happy with that because wanting anything else was unrealistic, honestly. And you could be feeling a lot worse. right now. And we avoided the really bad outcome. So yeah, I thought it was great.

Yeah, a nice moment from Mike at the end. You know, you can see the pride in him that he went eight rounds and did it and made a shitload of money. And then Jake Paul, very wisely and very smartly,

you know, put Mike over, said Mike was a very tough fight. And Mike Tyson, of all the people that Jake has fought, the only fighter, he is not knocked down in a fight. I mean,

you know, And that's as it should be. He's clearly the best fighter. I mean, maybe not this iteration of him. But, you know, he's the best boxer ever. And so to have that. And again, I said a lot during the watch party. Mike looked amazing for 58.

You have to put the caveat of 58 all over that because I guarantee you, everybody watching this. And me and you and the whole world, nobody would look better at 50s. 58 than Mike did tonight. And so, yes, was it entertaining in, like, objective terms? It was not. But we avoided the bad outcomes, and there's a lot to respect, even if, again, maybe

it's not your favorite thing that ever happened. We got other fights that we will talk about that, frankly, make up for the main event, you know, being what it was. Yeah. Does true or false, Mike Tyson fights again, exhibition or otherwise? True. I mean, we saw it in the cage afterwards. He was basically kind of poking Logan Paul to set something up there.

Whether that ends up happening, Logan Paul kind of honestly would make sense for Logan Paul. He kind of likes- Logan might actually try to fight him though. I have to believe Logan also understands the assignment there. But I think somebody will, he will get in there and do it again with somebody. Because he clearly wants to. And maybe it'll be different terms. Maybe he'll recognize eight rounds is clearly.

too much for him. The last two rounds, he functionally did almost nothing. So maybe it will be a six-round exhibition. Um, shit, maybe it's an exhibition match against Floyd Mayweather or something silly like that. Why not? You know?

Um, but I, I feel pretty confident. Mike is not ready, uh, to let it go at, at just this one. Well, I mean, I just thought of something. This is Netflix. WWE is going to Netflix. Logan Paul.

It's part of WWE. Say they could do it in some kind of angle. I don't trust me. I do not want to see Mike Tyson wrestle or get into a physical thing. But maybe managing maybe being in the corner of another wrestler and landing a right hand or something. That's okay. Didn't he wasn't he? I feel like he has previously done pro wrestling stuff.

Yeah, I was there. Wrestling 2014. He was the guest enforcer for Stone Cold Steve Austin's first WWF title win against Sean Michaels. Boston ass at the TD God. So there you go. Mike Tyson maybe finds a home back in WWB. Jake Paul, what's next for him? He did the Canello thing.

Ariel set him up for it. And he said, Canello needs me. I don't need him. If he wants the big money fight, he knows where I am. There's no chance that fight happens now. Now,

if he went out there and nuked Mike Tyson and then cut a heel promo, maybe Canello tries to save the face of boxing against this absolute, I would have been maniac, which would have been It would have been a psychotic but also perhaps totally genius thought. Totally genius and brilliant. I'm glad that Jake did not watch the preview show where I pitched that as an idea.

Yeah. Because he might have said done it. Now, where does Jake Paul go? Who does he fight? I think we're getting Tommy Fury. I originally, that's a change. So on a round table, we answer this question. And our general consensus, and I certainly was of the opinion.

opinion, it is time. Do the KSI fight. Jake has always seemed less interested in that fight than KSI has, certainly, for whatever reason that may be, but they are the two pillars of the influencer boxing scene. Whether Jake wants to be viewed as an influencer boxer or not, he is basically the er version of it. KSI, that fight just makes sense. KSI arguably beat Tommy Fury, et cetera.

like, I think that fight is big business and a fitting point to do it because why not? But I think if you're not going to do that and Jake has just seemed so disinterested in that matchup for reasons that kind of surprised me. There are options. There's Darren Tillis out there floating in the ether. But I think the Tommy Fury rematch makes the most sense. he has spent some time pursuing real boxers this year and cap that off with this Mike Tyson win. They have heat. They have a rivalry.

He wants to get that one back. I think that that is, I'm not like massively confident in it. But if I'm putting my money down, I would say that that would be my favorite right now. I think it's, yeah, I think it's either for your KSI. Nothing else really makes sense right now. There's no other, maybe Connor McGregor, but that's just not going to happen. The UFC ain't going to let that happen. And it's this is nobody else.

There's nobody else in MMA. Like there's just nothing else. Darren Till is the only other name that remotely jumps out at me. Does anything. No one knows who Darren Till is outside of us. I agree. Yeah. Especially the fact that like the last time we saw Darren Till, he got obliterated by, I mean,

the strictest super seems like a champion, but from from the goat. Yeah. The goat. So we'll see. Park reporter is available as Lazy Bed said. So yeah, give him a call. That would be really, really. fun. So we'll see what happens with Jake Paul.

Good on Mike Tyson, man, went to late. Good on Jake Paul too. Again, like you said, and I'm completely in agreement with you. Wasn't the most thrilling fight. I've already had people text me and message me saying that it was boring. A ton of people hit me that during the fight. Like, uh, this is terrible. It was like, this is

literally the best outcome possible. Yeah. And my response was, I tried to tell you that this is what needs to happen. I told all of you that Jake is going to win and hopefully it's not a win that makes you feel bad and think about your own mortality. Yeah.

It's okay to have fun with stuff. It's all good. And the reason why this is all good is, and this is a whole brilliant thing, Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano had their rematch. Their first fight was incredible. And it was very, very close. A lot of people thought Amanda Serrano won that fight. They ran it back in front of 70,000 people.

They put Jake Paul and Mike Tyson at the top of the bill. All the attention is on them. There's very little attention on Amanda Serrano. and Katie Taylor got messages from people so thrilled that they watched this fight. Those two women went out there and battled. You think it was better than the first one? It was better than the first fight. And it's different.

There's a little bit of the controversy involved. I personally thought that that raised some of the tension, the stakes around it, with the cut that happened. But, I mean, the action was just as good. The tension was through the roof the whole time. The arena was buzzing. It was like the only downside to it, the only thing that was worse than the first fight,

is Netflix. And that's a real thing. But, you know, blow for blow, I think that was the best women's boxing match I've ever seen. And it rocked. And so, and also, reminder kids,

this was functionally free because either you already own Netflix or you could free trial Netflix for a dollar or whatever. And you got this. And then you get the main event, which is a spectacle, not great. So, yeah, the co-main event was awesome. And nobody should be upset about the main, like the main event because the co-main was so good. Oh, it was absolutely incredible.

And if you missed a kid, Taylor wins another pretty controversial decision. I think this one is much more controversial than the first one. Yeah, there were a lot in play. Watching it live, I don't hate the Taylor card. But at the same token, the fact that only one point got taken away. way after five headbutts, I think it was, is insane. That might be a low count. There were a lot of them.

I mean, it absolutely one million percent affected that fight. I mean, there is no question that the, and the weird thing is, I think that first one was a lot less of a headbutt and more of a clash of heads. The one that initially caused the cut really was them both kind of moving side to side in clashing. A bunch of the other ones were just Katie, Henry Sehudo, we can. dive bombing her head into her. And there can be no question that the cut was a major player in the fight, that the headbutts made the cut substantially worse.

So that portion of it is absolutely like there's more controversy because of that. Even if ultimately, like you said, I'm kind of fine with the scorecard. Like not how I scored it. We had the mystery round. So I can't speak for the mystery round. Round two, we just did not see because of Netflix. So I tentatively gave that round to Katie Taylor. But ultimately, I scored the fight for Amanda Serrano.

I'm excited to go rewatch it and see if I feel differently. But even in the watching of it, I was like, we were like, yeah, I don't, how do you score this round? It could go to either person. Like eight of the rounds were just, Serrano maybe landed some more punches, but Taylor landed the harder punches and how are you judging them? And so I think another point should have inducted. I think the headbuts were more of an issue than ultimately we got leveraged out by the rules. I'm not massively opposed to the scorecards as they stand. The thing that matters most to me, we got to see it again.

They got to run. I don't care that Katie Taylor's two and now. Both of them are highly controversial. Run it back forever and ever and ever. I don't want to see either woman fight anybody else. Nothing else makes sense. I don't care about anything else. I don't want to see Amanda Serrano fight.

Anybody else? I don't see Katie Taylor fight anybody else. This is it. This is the fight. Sky Nicholson, cool, but no. She needs some seasoning anyway. Yeah, she loses to both of those women at this point. Let's just have these two fight.

Do the trilogy and boxing. Then do the fourth fight in PFL. Like, I don't care. That's it. That's it. And like, because it is one of those things where because both the first two are controversial, running a third back makes sense. I doubt either of them would have an issue with it.

And like maybe that's just, I've mentioned this in the preview show. Maybe that's the next big combat sports event. Other than WW, I know they're moving to Netflix. Maybe just the next Netflix show is this. Okay, we're doing Serrano or Taylor Serrano 3, and that's the main event. That is where, you know, that is the showpiece as opposed to being the, not sleeper because it's the co-main event, but stealing the show from the main event that was sucking up all the oxygen in the room.

Yeah. And this is why that fight was on that car. That's why I was so important to have that rematch on this car. It is perfect booking. And keep it intact. And that's why I was so important to have Amanda fight on the Jake Paul Mike Perry card just to keep things rocking and rolling and to get us to this fight. It's perfect booking.

Earlier this week, I was like, I don't know if this is good booking. I understand what they're trying to do. And I think that maybe it makes sense. But I was also legitimately like, nobody's talking about this fight because. Paul Tyson is just gravity welling all of the interest. And so I felt a little odd that maybe this fight was being underserved with the clear light of hindsight. Perfect.

Exactly perfect. So many of my friends were texting me during the main event saying, I wish the women were fighting again. Oh, man, that fight was insane. I've never watched women's boxing before. This is pretty nuts. and other things that I won't repeat for a lot of reasons. But like they, that fight drew interest from people who would never see women box ever.

And so perfect, perfect booking. Absolutely. Shout out to both those women putting on a show. They also understood the assignment. Yep. Went out there. Everybody tonight, except for the main card opener, really understood the assignment. Yeah.

If you did not watch this event and you're planning on rewatching it, skip the first fight and skip the last fight. You don't need to watch Jake and Mike unless you just watch the first round. We can watch the first round of it and then know how it goes. Yeah, you know how it goes. But watch Katie Taylor, Maddenisorana 2 fight absolutely rocked. I saw some people saying like, oh, thank God I didn't watch it. Well, then you missed one of the new three best fights of the year in all of combat sports. This fight was incredible.

And another fight that might be in the top. 20. Mario Barrios and Abel Ramos. Jeez. We did. What an incredible fight. Ends up being a split draw. Both guys get knockdowns.

Just a wave of momentum. Barrios just seemed like the bigger, stronger, more athletic. He was much bigger. He was much bigger. And Abel Ramos was just an absolute dog in there. Just took a bunch of punishment. Got stung early in the first round, got dropped bad in round two. and the dude just kept coming, getting hit, laughing, smiling, hitting back.

Not Barrios down as well after getting dropped himself a couple rounds later. What a frigate. Not a monster knockdown. Look like he maybe was going to turn the tide entirely and sort of take over the fight. Barrios, to his credit, you know, ten toes down, dug in and fought him back. But that was for a fight that I think. many people and certainly the odds makers thought was going to be a walkover win

for the current WBC Walthy rate champion. I think it was Walterway. I believe that's right. It was not. It was a fist fight. I don't love the score cards, though apparently other people did score that for Ramos. I believe Casey Leiden

thought Ramos won that. I scored at Viboros. If I recall correctly, you did as well. But apparently, you know, was a little more controversial. and who, a little more, not controversy, split opinion in who won that fight. So ultimately, I don't know an issue with it ending, you know,

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And then we're going to get out of here. But before we take a few questions, how do we grade this event? the main card specifically the Netflix experience So I can't How do we obviously Massive success in the stadium 70,000 people all that

But just the viewing experience All this on Netflix The streaming the buffing issues Which everybody seemed to To deal with What do we grade the overall card I'm a rock solid B Just right at a B level

a couple of a couple different breaks and we're talking a territory here it has it had one really major negative and then the the main event is like like i said and it's the best outcome we could have hoped for i think that's fine i'm not telling you it was also more fun to watch because that would be a lie and so you get some points dock for that uh the fight the main card opener a bit of a snoozer lose some points of that the biggest deduction though is Netflix and I don't it's not a huge amount of blame being placed on them for this

this is really their first time doing this sort of thing certainly I think then I believe news will probably come out either post press or places executives will speak that they simply were unprepared for the sheer volume of this because when I say that everyone I know watch this my sister

has not watched anyone fight someone since one time she watched a Ronda Rousey fight because Rousey was so ubiquitous and she was like it's what's going on? And so she tuned in to watch I think it was a Betcha Aya one. And that's it. Like she has never watched anyone fight

but it was on Netflix. Everyone has Netflix and I'll tune into the circus. Like I think they were fundamentally unprepared for that. I think they will say that at some. point in the near future. And ultimately, though, that is a problem. It's not how we need to hold it over their heads forever, but we missed around in the best, one of the best fights of the year. We had some serious issues with the buffering in the main event before things got going. And legitimately, the pacing was terrible and exacerbated by the fact that I am almost 100% positive. They held

the co-main event fight because they were having such huge issues with the service going that they didn't want to just run it out there when nobody could see anything. Yeah, the pacing sucks the life out of the card because the Barrios Ramos fight absolutely slapped and we knew that was heading into the fight. And it took 40 minutes. Almost an hour. I mean, it was almost an hour before that Serrano and Taylor even started walking to the ring. And then that fight ended and there's all this momentum.

All right, now we get the big fight. 30 minutes. Yeah. It was, and that was like 10 minutes after all the promos and stuff. They're like, yeah, 30 minutes from right now, these guys are going to start walking. Come on, man. Like, you just, the pacing was bad. It was just a lot.

And, uh, pacing was tough. And I, I truly do think that the pacing, some of that is baked into combat sports in general. Y'all know if you're watching this, you probably watch plenty. Uh, I honestly think that there is probably an hour full of showtime tonight that was not planned for. That was, we have to hold this because I, Twitter, like, buffering was trending was like the number four trending thing

worldwide. It was ubiquitous problems. So they knock a lot of points for that. That's why it's a B because I do think overall the totality of it solid. I enjoyed myself tonight more frankly than I thought I might have. But enough issues that

you can't get to an A. I think good enough to not be a C though. Yeah. I'll say B minus. B minus works. If we didn't get the sandwich meat, fights. This would have been like a C-minus D plus. If you give me one of the five best fights

of the year, your floor is probably a B if your fight card is literally one of the five best fights in the year on it. Yes. So we have this in the books and now we move on. We move on with UFC 309. Let's take a few questions before you get on out of here.

We've been live for well over five hours and we're going to do it again tomorrow. So, Joseph, did Mike and Jed think Dana was strategic when telling us the plan for 310 at the same time as Jake's bite. This is like the least surprising thing that has ever transpired. And if you guys are wondering what the hell we're talking about,

everyone has been asking what is going to happen at UFC 310? What's the main event going to be? We knew we could not say the main event is Alexander Pantoja defending the flyway title against Kaya Sukura. That was supposed to be the co-made event. That now headlines because now in the five-round co-main event, event, non-title fight, no interim belt, which I kind of like. Shafkat, Rachmanoff remains on the card.

He will fight Ian Machado, Gary. And if you're thinking to yourself, well, what about Joaquin Buckley? Joaquin Buckley is fighting Colby Covington in the main event of UFC Tampa. So that is what happened. Dana drops this news. So close to being right. Yeah. I said Colby was going to fight Shovcott for an interim belt.

I was in the neighborhood. I was really close to that being right. Yeah. So I was made aware of this. uh after the after the press coffins uh dana said we'll announce it tomorrow um obviously reached out we could not really say i was told chafcott was definitely fighting but he's not fighting kamar uspun he was not fighting colby covington and he was not fighting leon edwards and we figured it all out uh people started leaking it i don't think they were supposed to leak it they just did it anyways

uh not everybody has our journalistic standards yes uh and then yeah we're find out Colby's fighting Joaquin Buckley so this is obviously big news that was a new wrinkle yeah I did not see that I didn't see that one coming I thought it was they were going to like move Vicentee and they're like for a rematch or I don't know what that honestly I don't know what that we're going to do but that's what ends up happening walking buckley still gets a big name Ian Gary gets a five round co-main event on a pay-per-view which is pretty massive defeated versus undefeated I mean if he wins he gets a title fight the winner of that is no doubt about it fighting for the belt so yeah strategic number one

I think that it was strategically planned. I think it was an enormous gross miscalculation from Dana White. That announcement drew no interest away from Paul Tyson and very likely kind of sucked some interest out of this announcement. Because that's up on the website. I can't imagine it's doing big numbers for us or whatever. Because Paul Tyson is a massive global event. I think he just miscalculated and should have fired that out earlier in the day.

Yeah, you could have done it like right before the way in. Basically when we all thought it was coming and then you just kind of like, now we're going to do it later. And I do believe he did it intentionally at this time. I think that that was a misstep. But it ultimately doesn't matter. Yeah. I don't know if like they just didn't have Colby like walked in yet or something.

And they wanted to just announce everything together. Maybe that could have been. I guess that could be it. Because I know Cole, I mean, just seemed like Colby would want the Shafka fight, but maybe they just were like, now we're not doing an interim belt because Balaal's not going to be out for that long.

So we'll see. That's the big views in the MMA world. To Balaamah, he didn't, like, look, look at how smart Bala was. He didn't even complain about it. He was just like, I think it's silly, but if they want to do an interim belt, that's fine. And now they're not even doing an interim belt.

You're just the full-blown champion. Nick Diaz still scheduled for UFC310. Nice. right now. To the best of our knowledge. Ian Gary beat Shafkat. That would be wild. It would be by far the best one he's ever had.

And I would be pretty close to the word astonished. Is he in the fighter of the year conversation if he beat Jeffcott? I mean, not like credibly in it. Top five? He'll get votes in the top five, probably. So what? Who he's he beat? He'd be three and out.

MVP. Jeff Neal. Jeff Neal. And Shopcutt. That's pretty. All of those. It's pretty damn good. I get top five. He'll get votes. He might not be ubiquitous.

Joaquin Buckley. Walking Buckley had beat Ian, he was absolutely in the top of it. I mean, if walking Buck would be like Colby, he's still for and no. He's still very well, maybe like number five on some ballots.

Yeah, four and no, the win over Colby. Yeah. And so, like, yeah, I mean, there things are reasonable stakes

being fought for in all of these. I think Shavak's going to kill Ian Gary, but, I guess we'll find out. Well, so I guess that's your prediction. Oh, yeah. I think that Ian Gary is one of the easier matchups for Shavcott. Why is that?

I just, what, Ian Garey doesn't do anything awesome. And Shafkat does a lot of things that are awesome. Like, I thought Usman, which is where I thought this fight would go, I thought that was the most difficult matchup for Shavkat. um because usman can force him to play fully a striking game and chavcott is like an effective striker but he's not like amazing striker he's got pretty clear holes like maybe technically i would say that ian gary is like a better striker than chavcot but just not in a way that is seriously dangerous

and as soon as they lock up in a clinch gary's just cooked like shabby's just going to run in there so But like that's not really a criticism of being Gary. I have said for like two and a half years, Shavkat's going to be the champion. The only thing that I thought would stop Shafkat from being the champion was when I thought Hamza Jemayev would continue to make Walter Waite. And the moment that that became apparent, that would no longer happen was like, yep,

oh, Shavcott's going to beat the shit out of everybody else. So this is it. Last thing. Oh, you see the great Esther Lin in the ring just going hammed? on the camera. I didn't see the goat in the ring, but I know she's there. Obviously, Casey's there. Esther,

in the ring, pretty much all night, from what I understand. She's the goat for a reason. Bet she's got the sickest photos. Actually, I'll take one more for lazy bed. If Dana White speaks glowingly of this event tomorrow night, is that telling a possible intent to sign a streaming deal with Netflix? Dana White is going to be asked about this. There's no

doubt about it. And it's hard to put yourself in that man's shoes. Does he put this over at all? I don't think so. I don't think he bashes it. And insofar as he would make comment, I think he will pivot it almost exclusively to the fight itself and saying, look, like, if I'm Dana White,

let me get real mad. It was ridiculous. Just like Mike is 58 years old. I love Mike. I've known Mike for years. I love Mike. And good for him. He looked great for 58.

like, what is Jake Paul even doing? If fight somebody your own, stop fighting these old men. Next, he's going to try and fight me. Fight someone your age. And it will not be at all about Netflix because you can't trash Netflix. They very much want to keep that as an option. Whether they sign with them or not, you cannot bash Netflix or the production. So I would be stunned if he said anything about the production of it.

I think it will entirely be Jake Paul needs to stop fighting old fuckers. which is reasonable, frankly. I actually think he's going to put Jake over. I'll be surprised, but not, not in like a, like not in a great way. Like he's not going to, like, write a glowing review.

It's going to be like the opposite of a compliment sandwich. It's going to be like the reverse compliment sandwich. Jake's a dickhead. I'm glad he knew the assignment. Good on him. Fuck him. Like something like that. I could see,

uh, I think this was ridiculous, but obviously, a ton of people paid attention to it. It was a really big thing. And maybe he does put Netflix over to that extent of, you know, I mean, but that's what you get when you work with Netflix.

I wouldn't work with Jake Paul, but Netflix is obviously doing, I could maybe see that. I'll be pretty surprised if he says anything nice about Jake Paul. But I've been surprised by a number of things this year. And this, and let's just be perfectly clear, this event,

creamed UFC 309 this week in terms of interest and attention. This has creamed literally everything that has happened in my professional fighting career. Yep. There is maybe beyond. There is nothing I have covered in my life that has drawn as much interest as this has. Maybe one day I will pivot to football and cover a Super Bowl. Maybe that draws more interest. The Olympics globally certainly do.

Um, but like, yeah, I, 300 million people probably watch that fight tonight. Uh, it is astonishing the reach this thing had. Absolutely wild. Craziness. What a night. It was, think about this. You all own Netflix. How many times when you're watching anything does Netflix not work?

And you're never the only person on Netflix. It's Netflix. Everybody is watching reruns of friends or One Piece or whatever the hell else is on Netflix, the peaky blinders. And tonight it crashed because so many damn people were on it. It is like, I can't stress enough. It isn't a wonder how many human beings tuned in to watch this thing. Truly, we may never see something like this again in however long we can.

cover this sport. Yeah, pretty wild. What a night it was. And we're just getting started here, everybody, because we're going to do this again tomorrow. We're going to do this again tomorrow. Any final thoughts, Jed? I had a much better time than I kind of thought.

I knew that I could have fun. And I always love these watch parties. Love hanging with you. Love hanging with the peeps watching them. But that was not as sad as it could have been. We made some money. Love to make the monies. and I'm feeling a little bit better about tomorrow night.

Maybe not because the outcomes will be sad, tune in, watch, but at least should be violent. We were talking about it, and really the main card is probably going to, none of those fights should take that long, so we'll have stuff to talk about, we'll get to chat with the peeps, and be a good time.

And this one was, like I said, as good as it could have been. And I did not have a bad time, which is always good. Yes. I think we're going to get four out of five finishes tomorrow. I think that.

Maybe creating a civil, we'll make it five out of five. God knows my fantasy MMA team could use a community civil finish. If you have any chance, you need her to do that. Yes, against a ranked opponent, give me like 200-something points,

and then Cyril God can maybe put it over the top. Who the hell knows? But that'll be tomorrow. We'll be back here. Maybe we're here to witness. Steve Imich. Do anything. You want to see the greatest moment in M.A.

YouTube history. I might take my pants off if that happens. you've been warned. Well, with that being said, we are out of here. People's Pre-Fight Show tomorrow 515 p.m. Eastern Time. Myself, the legend E. Casey Lydden, he'll be back in California after traveling back from Dallas, who will be here to join us to answer your questions,

and then Jed and I will be back at Command Center 4.0. Maybe looking a little sharper video-wise. A little bit of a hint. A little bit of a teaser. It was supposed to happen tonight, but a little technical issue. Hopefully that's going to be rectified tomorrow. So you might get us in the best picture you've ever seen. I love that for us.

Which would be unbelievable. So 9.45 p.m. Eastern, doubleheader watch parties, UFC 309, return of John Jones, the return of Steepa Mietchich, heavyweight championship on the line. The return of Michael Chandler. The return of Michael Chandler, Jed's favorite fighter. So much to get excited about. So get some rest, relax. And we'll see you tomorrow

everybody. Thank you for joining us. You guys rock. Love y'all.