MMA Fighting - The A-Side Live Chat | Anderson Silva’s ‘retirement,’ Jan Blachowicz vs. Israel Adesanya, Conor McGregor Tweets, more

Episode Date: November 4, 2020

For this this episode, José Youngs, Alex Savas and E. Casey Leydon discuss some of the hottest topics in MMA. Some topics include: fallout from UFC Vegas 12; Uriah Hall’s TKO over Anderson Silva; the possibility of Silva’s retirement; Dana White’s reaction to the fight and more. The three will also react to Israel Adesanya’s planned fight against UFC light heavyweight champion Jan Blachowicz, Conor McGregor’s recent Q&A on twitter as well as look ahead to this weekend’s UFC Vegas 13. Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow E. Casey Leydon : @ekc Follow Alex Savas: @alexsavas Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Hey, we're live, pal. You hear that music. You know what that means? It's the eighth side live chat on m-a-fighting.com. I am, of course, Jose Young's your host. I hope everyone survived the last 12 hours, but we don't have to get into that. I'm sure everyone wants a distraction from what's happening in the world right now.

So let's talk fistfighting, the next best thing to the political realm. Anyway, I am, of course, Jose. I already said that. Joining me is my partner in crime, Alex Savis. It's her day off. And she's still joining us. So shout out to Alex in Los Angeles. And of course, Casey Liden, up to good in Englewood, I hope.

Oh, God. I'm trying to be all Brian Ortega here. I'm not. Los Vegas. Los Vegas. I know all of them. I was talking to Tai Tui Vasa off camera. He was like going through all of his hands signs.

And I was like, all right, guy. It's a little too complicated for a cage fighter. Anyway, this is the A. Wait, wait, wait. When you do, like, hand signs, is it, like, am I doing L.A., like, how it looks to you or to me? Because this looks like L.A. to me, but. No, you got to do L.A. to the other people.

Oh, to the other people, because I'm like, oh, L.A. You hold your right. You hold your right hand up. And then you put the A in front of it. There you go. Oh, L.A. Okay, because right now this looks like a half a hangman game. You got to bring the A down.

There you go. No, there you go. Right there. Dang. Olai. And then he throws up, it throws up, some, like, crown thing,

and then Tidesweevas, throws up west side for west side of Australia, the bush, if you would. Anyway, I don't even know if that's the Bush. I've heard Australian people say that enough times to,

I feel like I can say it now. But anyway, this is the A-Side Live chat. We're here. It's Wednesday. There's a lot going on in the world. Is there? I haven't noticed. I haven't noticed.

Right. I'm sure. You, Casey Liden, haven't noticed. I feel like I've seen. you talking all kinds of people on Twitter lately. All kinds of fighters, all kinds of journals, all kinds of bots.

I, yeah. I had a, I had a certain fighter call me a piece of shit the other day. That was fun. Were they a very blonde fighter? Maybe, maybe. Yeah. It happens. It happens.

A good old piece of shit. A piece of shit, Casey Leiden. What hoodie is that? No Moss. This is a pre- pre-re-re-Boc when the UFC used to license out their name to other companies so this company

No Moss based out in New York was they made a lot of cool gear and this is like the only I think this is the only UFC official UFC gear I have You've won that we are all fighters shirt many a time Ah yeah I guess so

Okay okay well non-charity based I don't know Don't you have a Don't you have a UFC Rebub bag for when you go train because it's legit like an actual good gym bag. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, the Reebok backpacks?

Oh, yeah. But as far as I said, I paid for. Like, I paid like, you know what? Here's hard-on money. No. Send it to me. Everything else kind of just fell on my lap. I took one shirt from Fight Island.

It was they were giving out Hispanic Heritage Month's shirts. I took one for my mom. You know, when Diego Sanchez is like, being Mexican means. Corazon. I was like, no, it doesn't. That doesn't mean anything. That just... No, I was like, all right.

The first fight of the whole thing, they had like three non-is Spanish-speaking Mexicans, and after that they did the excellent job. Brian Ottega, Trace, Cortez, the whole lot. Anyway, Alex, how's your part of Los Angeles? Because L.A. is so big. Yeah, no, good over here. Been quiet.

Headed to Chicago tonight on the Red Eye. See some family, so I'm excited. Get some soup. Get some soup. Got to get soup. See you, soup. Anyway, you got everyone in the comment session tell us their favorite soups,

but for now you can ask your comments. You can ask your questions on Twitter, the website, the YouTube comments, Casey's monitoring that. You can tweet at me if you want to complain about anything. Please don't complain at me. Also, actually, no one will save for the end. So Casey, what's our first question? Favorite soup?

I don't consider, do you consider chowder soup? Sure. Or do you share it chowder? Chowder is the own category? That's what I'm asking. Hmm. I think soup is encompassing. Like a soupy substance?

I like menudo. That's my favorite. Menudo or New England clam chowder. I meant to matzo ball soup. You strike me as a lentil soup kind of guy, Casey. I can dig lintel. I can take lintel. What?

Basic. Got them. Hey, Alex is like, come on. I'm sorry. We're in the same team here. Jesus. This soup talk on aggressive fast. Yeah, I know.

Anyway. Let me see what we got. Oh, we got, we got some, um, beef barley. Beef barley. Barely. Barely any beef. Scott Brown. Scott Brown.

All right. First question. Uh, do, do, do, do. Go, do do. Go straight to the. YouTube comments from longtime commenter, Mr. Joseph Boza. Oh, too big. From Joseph Boza, Cynthia Calvilla told Mike Heck that Lauren Murphy took an easy paycheck at U.C. 254.

Is Cynthia taking an easy paycheck at UFC 255 versus? I think it's Catlin. I think she spelled Catalan. She's name wrong. But yes, go check out the interview with Mike Heck on what the heck with Cynthia Calvita. I don't want to spoil it off you. It's a pretty awesome interview. But yes, to paraphrase why she said, Cynthia said that.

Lauren took an easy paycheck at USC 254. She was obviously Lauren and Cynthia were supposed to fight. Cynthia fell out because she caught COVID. Lauren stayed on, fought a newcomer who was probably a should probably be a straw weight, picked up the win and it just then went hard on the paint on the media and the rankings and the title fights and everything. It used her platform pretty well. So, Alex, did Lauren take an easy paycheck and is Cynthia taking an easy paycheck in return against Callant-Hagan? No, I don't think Lauren took an easy paycheck.

I think she was in a tough situation, and we all know in the UFC, he who hesitates his loss. So, yeah, Cynthia said all she had to do was wait a week, but there are no promises, you know, nothing is a given. So if hypothetically she was like, okay, I'll wait for you for a week and then, you know, she still test positive again or something else happens. Like, you have to just look out for yourself. And in that case, Warren Murphy was doing the best thing for her and her camp. And that was to get paid. And it's not her fault that the only matchup available was, you know, UFC newcomer. that's not her fault.

She did what she had to do and everybody would have done the exact same thing in her position, in my opinion. But no, I don't think Cynthia's taking an easy paycheck at UFC 255. I think that's going to be a fun fight.

It's a tough fight. I'm not particularly, I don't particularly understand any of these taking an easy paycheck fight because like you said, dangerous fight, super dangerous fight for Lauren Murphy on Fight Island sitting,

her opponent does have like legitimate, she's not just a newcomer that just picked up for fun. She has a legitimate wrestling and martial art background. Talked all kinds of greasiness before. On a big name, I think she just wanted to, like you said, he who hesitates is lost in the UFC,

wanted to stay on the big fight card user platform because she knows if she wins that, that's the most watched fight card recently. A lot of people are going to be listening to what she had to say. Casey, what do you make of this whole easy paycheck talk? Well, saying Cynthia's taking an easy paycheck against Chicagian is

ridiculous. That doesn't even make any sense. unless, I mean, unless Chagagin is still riding on the ground from that liver shot or something. Like she walks in the cage going, oh, no, she's still, but no, I mean, yeah, Chagin is always going to be a tough fight just because one fighter in the history of the universe

that made it look easy. Well, I guess two fighters, Chibchenko and Androj. But no, these are, there's not absolutely zero, not an easy fight. Now, calling Murphy an easy fight against, what was the young lady's name? She beat?

I can't remember. I don't remember off the top of my head. Okay. Well, the young lady should be, uh, that's not an easy fight. That was a high risk, uh,

high risk, semi high reward fight. Uh, I mean, but you just don't turn down fights with the UFC. You know, if they just, you're not,

yeah, if you don't have that sway, no, behind the scenes with the matchmakers, yeah. If they say fight this refrigerator, you know, you fight it.

You're good, you know, so, uh, but, Lauren Murphy. She fought, she fought Lilia Shakarova, who was riding a three-fight win streak and was eight in one entering the fight.

Yeah. That Lilia girl, she did look pretty small in there. She did. But smart fight for a Lord. That was a very strategic smart fight for Laura Murphy to take, and she made the best of it, absolutely, by finishing her. And then more importantly, we don't remember the fight. We remember what she said in the mic.

And that's what counts, what she said in the mic. getting the W is cool but what she said in the mic that's the story and if she wouldn't just won and said cool thanks so hey guys i'll fight whoever you put me put next in front of me you know do i do what you want mr jana white we wouldn't be talking about laura murphy right now but because she went out there you know made a stink you know trash that trash your whole division yeah good on her she also proved her own point too because by taking the short notice fight she proved that you have to kind of just do what ufc says and we that's evident now because Cynthia and Lauren Murphy, I guess, like they had about agreement and Lauren wanted to sleep on it, you know, because she said there's a lot of legal jargon that she wanted to look over. She slept on it and woke up to the announcement that Cynthia was going to fight Chigian. So again, you cannot hesitate. Like, unfortunately, yeah, that sucks. You should be able to have time to read over your contracts. But that's not the kick.

What is that noise? I have literally no idea. Did you hear that? That was weird. No. What was it? Was that not coming from your place, Alex? No, it sounded like a spaceship.

I have absolutely no idea. I heard that, too. All right. Hey, well. The aliens checking in to see if Earth is still standing. Oh, so thank you for the question, Mr. Boza. Boza is off back to the moon now. Who fights from the seaside on Twitter?

Who fights first? Ryan Hall or Arnold Allen? Arnold Allen. Because he already had to fight boats. His fight fell out. He's looking for a replacement. I don't believe Ryan Hall has a fight right now. So I would imagine Arnold Allen can...

Although, if Arnold Allen can get out of the UK, I don't know where he is currently, presently at the time. So I don't... If that's... I'm not like, obviously, I'm sure we're going to get questions moving forward, especially about Leon Edwards, somewhere I can address it now.

So if Arnold is in the UK and he gets stuck, that's a whole other story. But if they can leave the country, I would have to imagine Arnold Allen fights first because he already had a fight booked before, was it Jeremy Stevens? Was it Jeremy Stevens that fell out? And then he called out at Tim Barboas. So I think Arnold Allen, just because he was already in camp.

When was that fight scheduled? This month, I believe. It was supposed to happen in Vegas, right? I believe so, yeah. Well, it has to because there's no other Fight Island fights. Oh, yeah, yeah, correct. That makes sense. He was supposed to fight him this weekend.

This weekend? Arnold Allen and Jeremy Stevens, yeah. I wonder if Arnold Allen is. So you should already... I wonder if he's actually in the States. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. If he is, then, yeah, he'll probably find some random bantam way in Vegas to fight him.

Now, really, it really just depends on the island going to go the Laura Murphy route and just face whoever they throw in there. And most likely it's going to be someone way behind him in the rankings, or is he going to wait and hopefully get a ranked opponent or someone in front of him? That's the big game. I guess that's the big game that all fighters play. you know so like say he's uh he's called out barbosa i think that's i wanted barbosa to fight the winner of this fight anyway so i wouldn't hate that if barbosa stepped in but barbosa cuts a lot of weight and i

don't think he's going to be able to cut weight on four days so if anything they probably have to bump it yeah so but i guess um i don't think ryan hall's going to be fighting in 2020 unfortunately unfortunately yeah so um that is a bummer uh you oh okay so i thank you very much for your question mr seaside or mrs seaside or mrs seasie side not sure right here we go that's the question we're looking for all right from tanguine if Leon Edwards

gets stuck in you take due to the lockdown what will happen to Leon Hamza well they probably have to find a new opponent for Hamza and I would imagine well if it's enough time it'd probably be well to wait if it's not enough time I'll probably have to fight a middleweight again who knows who will fight but

any either one of you guys can you think of a name if this fight falls apart who we should fight somebody else was calling him out recently who was it hamzzi everyone magni Mike Perry no Magny

Perry Perry Magny Wydman Darren Till said he'd fight him on quick turnaround a bunch of fighters Wideman it should be Magny

yeah Magnny magny makes the most sense now is the UFC going to do that is that too high risk for the UFC do they think that's a bad fight for Osmond because obviously 100%

the UFC is very promoting Hamzot right now but I want to know once the UK locks their country down because of COVID, do they pull Leon Edwards out of the rankings again? Will he be unranked again? Well, Alex was at the press conference, and I believe it was Kevin Ayoli, a Yahoo Sports asked Dana about this exact scenario,

and Dana said, I don't know, I'll get back to you. So no one knows. They've been able to work in the past about pulling people out of the countries even in lockdowns. due to like work or yeah whatever sports people get to have certain exemptions and I don't know if the UFC would do that for Leon Edwards but I think they would do that for Hamzat so oh god

that's funny Hansa was sitting next to Dana watching fights they were like just like oh they were like on a really cute dope a date I mean a day you were just watching fights it was very it's adorable that was after that was after Hamzat's uh Guram fought so Guram gamrath fought which is my low key my one of my favorite fights to the fight island. Anyway, TBD,

Magny or Perry, if Perry wins. Where's, uh, when's, actually, when's the Till fight happening? Till,

who's, who's, December? He's fighting, Jack Armands. I mean, this, this is,

this is not just for Edwards. You got Till involved. Till, does Till train in the UK? He trains there, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So, uh, yeah, it's going to be, um, it's going to keep going, this whole,

this whole thing. it's just who knows who knows it really depends on government restrictions and um what levers are you know pulled behind the scenes but uh yeah yay we'll go we might have uh leon edwards um fighting cage warriors next who knows i wish might get one of those again we good of this one yep because we don't know yeah we don't know We look on our Zoom Look on our YouTube quick Do do do Do do do

Do do From J. Pizzle 2010 Are you guys watching Mandalorian Season 2 on Disney Plus? Not yet. Don't spoil it.

I'm currently knee deep into Haunting of Hill House And once that wraps Then I'm going to hop over the Mandalorian. Oh,

you never seen Hunting in Hillhouse? Oh, you're watching now? Yeah. I watch haunting a blind manner And then when it's to watch Hauntle of them. They're very different. They're very different.

I'm watching. I'm one episode left of Bligh Manor. I'm going to finish tonight. It's fine. I'm going to finish his night. It's like a spooky where's Waldo. So that's pretty much all I'm watching for. I guess so.

No, it's 100% is. I've watched the thing with the director where he just secretly high as ghouls and like the background of every scene. And like the game I play is I try to find it every time. Oh. So like they'll be like talking. And then if you look in the background,

there's like a ghost girl like looking over. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a handrail. And like they, they, don't talk about it at all. I'm like, how is no one seeing this seven-foot creature behind them? Like, that's why I watched the show. Anyway, don't spoil the way to mind the Lauren yet. Yeah. Hunting, Haunting, uh, blind manor is a much more of a slow burn. Uh, hunting a hillhouse, I think,

is overall much scarier. And, um, yeah, I, there's one scene in hunting a hillhouse where I freaking screamed in terror. Like, it was awesome. So, uh, Is it the car ride? Yeah. Yeah, that's what everyone said. Everyone, everyone. And I didn't like, because I heard about the car ride scene before, but I didn't know what car rides. I was like, it didn't spook me.

But, all right, anyway. You haven't watched any of these. Have you Alex? No, I don't watch scary movies. And I've also never seen anything Star Wars related. Sorry. Are you? I like that.

Anything pop culture? Like, have you heard of Star Wars? Pop culture? Excuse me. I could take you in a pop culture. Casey, you have literally no idea what you're messing with, right? right now. Like, you stepped into the Bears den when it comes with Alex, the pop culture.

You've no watched any Star Wars. I don't even like Star Wars. That was pop culture. That's true is. I tried to watch Star Wars like once upon a time. And I think you have to watch it like from a kid and like appreciate that. Because I was like, you know, I've studied special effects in school and stuff. And I think I just, I miss the boat where like I can't now go back and watch it and be like, oh, this is great cinema.

Like I just can't. Sorry. it's like Pulp fiction like at its time amazing watching it now I'm like these shots are so long and I cannot focus I need quick jumps let's go like it's just it's a different time whoa you are you are you consider a millennial are you in the millennial zone yeah you and your millennials I don't watch your vine videos yes exactly I need eight seconds I'm done vine is dead boomer it's been dead for three years um you I don't You and your MySpace.

Yeah, I don't watch TV, like at all. Casey knows this. Actually, I watched about two or three shows, tops, one of them. Shout out to my man. Oh, hey. Yes. Energy vampire. Energy vampire.

Figure it was, it was relevant now, but I liked the Mandalorian because I was a really big fan of the lone wolf and cub comic books behind me. And Samurai Jack when I was a kid, and it's basically just that, except Star Wars related. I'm not to Star Wars. Next question. Have you guys seen The Bachelorette? I have never watched The Bachelorette.

I think when I was little, someone from my hometown was on it, and it was in the paper. And that is my, and that and then I worked, when I worked at Fan Side with Alex, we had, everyone was playing like some fantasy pick-em game thing,

and I just picked alphabetical order and got just trashed by everything. one in the office. And then they all went out at a McDonald's, and I was like, I don't understand any of you people. Good stuff. This is an interesting question. This should be fun.

From Tristan Gordette, longtime commenter. Emma fighting at Alexavis. So is this for her? In yo, what would you do to curtail the behaviors that we've seen from specific fighters or all fighters in general, the UFC examples would be Perry and Hardy. So I think he's asking this to Alex specifically. Well, I don't know what Inyo means.

In your opinion. Okay. What would you do to curtail the behaviors that we've seen from specific fighters or all fighters in general in the UFC? So they specifically brought to light Mike Perry and Greg Hardy, who of course have history with domestic violence and police have been called to various circumstances. So, Alex, how would you answer Tristan's question? Well, the least the UFC could do is at least launch some sort of internal investigation on their behalf. I mean, the NFL did it with Greg Hardy.

I don't understand why the UFC can't even just like pretend to care for half a second. You know, and then the other part is pretend, is the whole conversation shift needs to happen from this being a women's issue to being a men's issue. This is not just a problem for women. You know, this is an everyone problem. And as soon as everyone starts to, you know, actually care, you know, maybe then the UFC is actually going to look at this and be like, okay, these are actually deal breakers for fans. Right now, none of this is a deal breaker for the fans. And that's the problem. So the whole mindset has to shift with the fan base.

And I don't know how you fix that. I've been trying most of my life. I don't know if there's been any progress made in my opinion. But, I mean, something has to give. You can't just, I understand second chances I get that narrative. But there's a difference between having a second chance and taking a job. in like an office or a warehouse or a normal people job versus like, you know, beating the crap out of people in a cage.

It's a little weird, in my opinion. So, yeah, that conversation needs to be. There needs to be something set in stone. These are the protocols. This is what will not be tolerated and stick to it. Casey, remember when that happened? Remember when they laid out those rules like seven, eight years ago? And they suspended Matt Mitrione.

I was about to say, yeah. Remember that? Was it Matt McIriff? So everything you said it, yeah, because you. went on the MMA hour and was roasting Fallon Fox. Oh, yeah, okay. There's been a few. So the things that you've described, Alex, the UFC has basically tried to implement.

People just forgot about it a year later. It's unfortunate. Exactly, because nobody cares. Nobody truly cares. And that's the problem. And when I say nobody, I mean, the vast majority, not nobody. And I was confused by the initial rules they had said in stone because remember they're like, oh, Mademichron is suspended.

I'm like, suspended from what? He doesn't even have a fight line. up. Like what is he suspended from? Training, doing media? Like, do they just not offer him a fight for six months? Like, that was never cleared to me either. So, like, the, the punishments were even confusing to me. And he was just, he just talked, he just talked greasiness about, you know, Fallon Foxes, Alex. Oh. She was the, um, one of the first transgender. She was a transgender fighter. She had transitioned from a male to a female and was fighting women. and it was a whole thing.

And I believe Ashley M. Smith beat Fallon Fox, which got her into the UFC. Ashley M. Smith then jumped to the UFC. So, and Matt Mitzrone said something on the M.A. hour and got suspended. What that means, I'm not quite sure. But then we've seen things like Tiago Silva, he got suspended, rehired, fired, rehired, fired, for like the same thing. And the difference between that is he was on, they caught him on video. Like, there was video of him, like, threatening to do a lot of things.

So that was the final straw. But then they fired people for a lot less than Mike Perry and Greg Hardy or suspended or all that stuff. Will chope. Will chope. Jason High got, was it Jason Hyne? He just shoved the ref. It wasn't like he assaulted him. He was just like, got in my face, bro.

Dude, Steve-Bey, Steve-Bes shoved the ref. And like, it was just whatever in that one. It's just, the answer is whatever you have. do something. Yeah. The UFC is going to say something and then if they're going to follow through if it, yeah. If it's up the fans, they're still going to watch and I don't know the answer. I guess my issue, my real issue is if you want to, if you want to give guys, if you want to, if your business practice is like, hey, these guys fight, I don't care what they do outside the cage.

They can be criminals. They can do this. They can do that. as long as they show up make way pass your drug test fight that's that's our standard if that's it then say that then say that then just stick by that it's like okay

but then they have pulled and release fighters for past like World Chop as an example because they found out he had a domestic violence issue in the past which was completely resolved and settled even his wife was like or ex-wife I think was like no we're good we move past that

so He got disarmedly discharged from the military for that, right? Yeah, and the whole thing was like he actually got into MMA to fix those violence, violent tendencies he had. But that's another story. But they've gone both ways on it. So I just want to just if you're just going to let anyone fight as long as people watch and they pass their drug test and make, make weight, if that's your, if that's your,

if that's your policy, then okay, cool, we know that. But don't, but they're just kind of all over the place. So I don't know. I don't like it. It's all about star power. I mean, Greg Hardy draws a lot of eyes. Mike Perry does too. Conrader does too, regardless of what, you know, the allegations they're facing.

Yeah, some guy in the prelims gets busted, you know, with a domestic violence charge. We're probably never going to hear from him again. Yeah. But that's the reality. That guy doesn't put butts in seats. So, yeah. Thank you very much for your question. Do, do, do, do.

I like this question. From hardcore casual UFC fan. I believe on Twitter. I believe Michael Johnson could be lightweight champion in an alternate universe. Which fighter do you see as champ in a different timeline? So Michael Johnson's career is weird where he has wins over Dustin Porier. Knocked out, Dustin, not just win. Not him dead.

Knocked him dead. Yeah. Knocked him dead in Hidalgo, Texas. At lightweight too, right? It was at lightweight. I lightweight. Yeah, I lightweight. It was Michael Johnson has wins over Tony Ferguson, Dustin Porre, Edson Barbosa,

but then he has losses to, who is it like? Who did he most recently lose to? The guy that just beat Bobby Green. Tagalog Moises, right? He has losses to, he's on a three-frey losing streak to Tiago Moises, Steve Jure and Josh Emmett. For that, he had back-to-back decisions over the Go, Artem Lobov, and Andre Feely.

Loses to Darren Elkins, Gachie, Habib, KOs Porre, loses to Nate Diaz, Benile Dereuz, and then had a four-fight win streak over Lozahn, Tebow, Gellard, and Barbosa. Also has wins over Tony Ferguson and Danny Castillo, and has losses to Jonathan Brookins, Paul Sass, Reza Madade, so like very odd career. Like he's being some huge names, lost to huge names,

as being some people that aren't as talented, and has lost people that aren't as talented. So, I get it. Not only that, a lot of his losses, he was winning before, too. Like, the Habib loss, okay, he got Habib, like, everyone else got Habib. You know, that's, that's, we're going to, that's, you know, that's a given. But the get me. He was real close to beating Josh Emmett.

He was real close to being Gaichi. You know, not close, but he was in a very competitive fight against Gaichi until it wasn't. The Moises fight, he would dominate the first round too. I think he got hill hooked at the first 30 seconds in the next round. Yeah, he got taken down. And Josh Emmett fight, he was on his way to. winning. Yeah, so I think it's just...

He looked real good against Nate Diaz early before Nate Diaz did what Nate Diaz does. You know what? How about this? If everything was just a one-round fight, Michael Johnson would be the champ. How about that? And Shane Carlin would still be heavyweight champion. So there's my answer. Yeah.

He just... Shane Carlin. If every fight was a one-round fight, Shane Carlin would be the best UFC heavyweight ever. actually man if we if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if we if if if if we if if if we were actually be one of the more probably much more dangerous yeah you're not wrong yeah you're not wrong so who would be carl's condo would probably have should probably have been a undisputed u.s.s. away champion uh either against roby lawler or that if he had finished GSP with that head kick uh both fights were pretty wild um there's a lot of good ones a lot of big ones

Actually, it's kind of interesting if you have, like, high-level fights, but it's only five minutes. That's it. And if no one gets finished, no one makes their money or something. I don't know. So they have to, I don't know. Or they give the money to their favorite charity. So I don't want to get the money back to the promoters. But I'm just saying, like, how different the sport would be or fights would be, like, five minutes to just go crazy.

I think Musassi could have been a middleweight champion, but so could Jacques-Are. I think either one could have been. Because when Bisbing was champ, that thing was basically up for grabs. Oh, when Biz, dude, when Bizzing with Champ, GSP came out of retirement just to fight BISBain. I love that move still. Yeah, there's a lot. Middleweight is one that would probably fluctuate. Gilbert Melendez, for sure, should have been the UFC champion.

That's an all along the conversation. That's depressing. So, there's your Michael Johnson answer, sir. Valentina from Trumbo on the site. Assuming Val gets passed. Jennifer May, which super fight would you rather see? Valentina versus Wei Lee or Valentina versus Nunes 3 seems like Dan has no interest in Val versus Nunes 3. Alex, which one of these superfights between female champions would you most, would you rather see?

Valentina versus strawweight champ, Waley, Zhang, which I assume would mean Waley goes up to flyweight or Valentina versus Nunes 3 at Bantamweight. I'd like to see both, but first I'd like to see Valentina versus Whaley. Because it's a fresh matchup. Yeah. I mean, and I just think that, like, I think Whaley is like way under the radar, you know, and I think, you know, this would be the ultimate place to put her to get some real eyes on her and show some respect. The unfortunate thing where Whaley, she had the greatest fight in the history of female martial arts, and then it went right into a pandemic.

Yeah. Still best fight of the year. I agree. No argument for me. One of the greatest fights I've ever seen in my life. I said Cadeside to death. Dan Shapiro sitting next to me. I'm like, that's the best fight of the year.

And we're only in March. And he's like, it's like, it doesn't matter. What is it going to stop that? So obviously to be determined, but nothing has topped it yet. But yeah, I agree. I'd rather see Valentina Wailey right now. I would rather see none of these fights. I want to see Valentina face.

Yeah, I agree. But of answering questions specifically. I just think it's ridiculous for just to suggest that Whaley should already go up. And I was like, what? It's like, what do we do? Like she just got the belt She's just like Why are we

Said the same thing I'm just answering this question Specifically of course If you ask me who I would What fight I would ratis see in general It's Whaley Rose Whaley What's who's fighting Michelle Waterson now

Um Hebos Hebos Amanda Heboss Obviously if they want to run it back With Yowna That's cool Cloudy has a big fight

Nina has to come back eventually And then of course It's like Valentina versus Lauren Murphy's fun and a whole bunch of other fights moving up. So, yeah, there's a million fights I'd rather see. But answering this question specifically, Valentina Whaley, does more for me than Valentina Nunes.

It's a ridiculous question, Mr. Trumbo, or Mrs. Trumbo. Ridiculous question. Waley's got plenty of competition at straw weight. Valentina has actually a fair amount of competition at Flyweight. Nunes, though, is a different story. I don't know what I do about Nunes. Let's see what happened was Megan Anderson. Let's see what Mama Nunes.

Let's see if it changes her. So we'll see. If Amanda retires, who is the first bantamweight champ after she hangs it up? Is that your hand, fingers, Casey? Yep. Okay. Tap tapping. I think it's Holly or Jermaine.

I think that's a rematch to make. I think that's the fight to make Holly Jermaine at 35. If Amanda retires, GDR Holly five rounds for the vacant Bandom ways the fight to make. I had Holly wean the first one, even with the late shot. at 45 and 45 isn't neither of them I think fight at their best up 45 I think both them are 35ers and yeah that's the fight I want to see so yeah I mean yeah if what happens and what happens with featherweight Alex if you had to retire RIPP and we get megan Anderson versus sidewalk in Bellator yeah good I'm like let all those ladies go to Belator that's that's how it works you know the super fight I do want to see though which we're not going to see if Elima Leigh can get past Velazquez, which is a very tough matchup

she has in Bellator. I still want to see Valentina Elima at one point in my life. Yeah. I don't know how long Elima's going to keep fighting. What's her contract situation like? I'm not sure, but she's pretty happy in Bellator, but she might retire soon too.

That's what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like even if she does, like, even if her contract does end for whatever reason, I can't imagine she's going to want to keep fighting long enough to even have that fight. Yeah. She has priorities. I'm over this shit.

She has, Alex, have you heard Alima's story of when the pandemic hit? She was on her way to go get married in Jamaica and then got stranded into San Diego because the pandemic shut everything down. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Then they had. She also used her,

I don't know if you've seen it, but Casey and Esther went to Hawaii to do like the behind the scenes thing for Belator Hawaii. And her current, they got married, right, Casey? They're not still engaged. I don't know. Well, her man. I don't know if they got married or they're still engaged or whatever.

She used their video to like, hey, hey, look what I do. Wow. So Casey and Esther basically put together a highlight package for Elima to use in finding her fiancé. Not on purpose. After college, I did shoot some wedding videos, so I am. I feel like every videographer I know in some way or another has had to do some sort of wedding. scenario. I do the wedding videos.

It's because there's good money in it. It's expensive. I don't doubt it. I'm a good bargain. I'm a good bargain. I get some cool, Tomo shots, especially if the bride decides to take down the groomed or the dance.

I was like, well, I'll get proper coverage of it. It'd be great. Will Harris of Anatomy. All right. Will Harris of Anatomy of Fighter was posting photos of him. Like,

you've all seen Anatomy of Fighter. It's like pretty, it's a good documentary series. It's right up there with Embedded. and he was, like, posting videos of his old wedding videography days. So it's like this six, seven black dude just with, like, a huge camera, like, walking around. I don't know if any of you have met Will. He's very tall man.

He's a very large man. I guys got some biceps. Yes, he does. He looks like a basketball player who only trains biceps. Yeah. He's like the pat Y men of videographers. So he's just, so he'll be curling and teaching me about the fall of Rome. Yeah.

Let's talk deadlifts. Let's talk deadlifts and the boobonic plate. Oh, guys, also, subscribe to the fall of Rome. It's a great podcast series. Agreed. It makes me mad how well it's put together. Yeah, I know. I love it.

I listen to it all the time. Easy versus Jan. How do you guys see this fight going down and who walks the way with the belt? From Zaku Kokekeghi. Alex made a face. So I'm going to let her jump off into this. Here, I do that face again. I'm always making faces.

I don't know. I don't know. Listen, I really don't want to, I'm sorry, I don't want to see Israel a sign and take the light heavyweight ball. I just, from a personal standpoint, it's just going to get too frigging annoying. Jan Bohovic has already been a great champ. I'm going to post in such wholesome stuff with his mom and his dad drinking a beer, his dad to celebrate. I love that. Let the guy have a little bit longer in the spotlight. That's what I'm saying. That is. Oh, what, you sound like, it sounds like you, it sounds like you're saying he's going to lose. I'm not saying that.

Because we're a little longer in the spotlight. He's finding Israel at Disney. A Disney. How are people saying? Israel at Dissina. Israel Adisina. I want to see Israel Adestanian rematch Robert Whitaker because Robert Wittaker but also on the flip side, the Hermanson Till fight.

I would love to see Israel Adesnia fight him, that winner of that fight too. So I like Jan versus Israel as a fight, and I think it's cool that Izzy's moving up because I like these kind of champ champ fights. But Jan just won. We have the Gloved to share Tiago Santos fight this weekend, which should determine the number one contender. We got Yuri Prohaska. I agree, which we should. We have Jerry Prohaska versus Dom Reyes that's slated for February. I know that's still a ways away, but if they want to put Jan, if they want to put Yon Izzy on that same card,

and have like light heavy weights and middle weights all throw down on the same card cool Izzy's now saying if John Jones moves up to heavyweight and wins the championship belt that Izzy will move up to heavyweight to fight Johnny for a third belt that's a little extreme man like that then you have I mean it's awesome it's cool it's like cool moment for the sport is it I think it is having a triple champ an actual triple champ uh but it wouldn't be great for the divisions as Daniel Kormier said At his media day, he goes, I get Izzy wanting to defend the title at middleweight because it's good for the division, but you're a prize fighter and you should go get paid a lot of money to fight if you're going to get kicked in the head. So I see both arguments, but there are fights in literally all three-way classes that I would want to see Izzy fight.

I personally don't like the fight from a, because it stalls of divisions. I would like say if Izzy goes, if Izzy fights Yon, he can, if he beats Yon, yes, he's a two belt champion. but basically the next day you have to vacate your lighter belt. So let the 85 division carry on and then you go, I like that. Because then the division moves, you know, because what we're going to do? Interim belts is, you know, I don't know. I just don't. But from a very short-term planning, short-term money, yeah, it's a great fight for the UFC.

It's a great fight for Yon. It's a great fight for Izzy in the very short term. But for the long-term division and for the rest of the fighters, it sucks. Yeah, it's selfish. this sport is all about being selfish. There's no. I'm sorry. I just, I wouldn't do it that way if it were me.

You would take less money. Looking out for my fellow fighters. Exactly. Ah, teamwork. Look at you. Yeah, I don't live in an individualistic world. It's not about me. It's about us.

It's us against the machine. You would. Are you raging against the machines? I'm raging all day. You know, Dad's Dana White's favorite band. He loves Rage Against the Machine. I know. It bothers me. Not sure what the machine is to him, but whatever.

I'm going to ask him, that's an interesting question. So when you rage, who are you raging against? Who are you raising it? Who exactly is oppressing you? Yeah. The media. Oh, yeah. Align media.

Oh, you think I'm a machine. That's so cute. It happens, man. From Terrence Leverett, looking ahead on Twitter, looking ahead to next year, what fun fight has to happen in 2021. That's not on the radar. are at the moment. Also, can we get an A-side hoodie in a merch store? I would love an

A-side hoodie or a hat or anything like that. So, TBD. TBD, I'll say that. What fun fight off the top of your head that is not being discussed at the present moment. So you can't say Izzy Jan or anything like that. What fight do you want to...

Are you hoping to see... I'll start with you, Casey. Ryan Hall versus Jeremy Stevens. I still want to see that fight so bad. Oh, okay. But that hasn't been discussed at all. I mean, to me, Steve A John Jones, I mean, there seems to be no movement on that, but that seems to be the fight.

Well, I think Francis is going to fight Stipe in March. Awesome. I love that fight even more. Alice, which fight do you want to see between fighters that isn't currently on the radar? I'd like to see, hopefully if Tatiana Suarez comes back to fight for the belt. I mean, I'm just trying to get through trying to think about 2021. I'm just like overwhelmed. There's a 2021?

There's more of this. I thought it just ends. I would say I really want to see. I hadn't thought about it, but obviously you guys saw Connor do his little Twitter Q&A or you can go on our Instagram and slide through all the slides. Connor said he was, I hear something in my headphones. Oh, well. Connor said he's down to rematch Max at some point at 155.

I love that fight. I think that's an awesome fight. I hadn't really thought about that fight in a while until Connor tweeted it. Non-title fight, too. Yeah, I think that would be a lot of fun. Cody eventually say what's up. Wait, is Connor Poy not happening? I'm so confused.

Not officially signed yet. Okay, one of those things. All right. Yeah. All right, all right. Ortega Volcanowski, obviously, is an awesome fight. Zabit, Yayae Rodriguez. Eventually, Uzman's going to have to fight Gilbert Burns

unless Hamzaq comes in and just dust. Leon Edwards, I can't imagine the UFC's dog. I could be like, Hamzai, go fight tomorrow, Ouzman, tomorrow, because, you know, he would. Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot. I want to see Jairzino an Overeign rematch because that fight was kind of bizarre the first time.

Yeah, five rounds. There's a lot of fun fights, Mockachev and RDA still has to happen, and then I think there's a lot of fun lightweight fights. Michael Chandler's debut would be, is something you've got to think about. I really want Jeff Neal and Vicente Luque real bad. I think that's just a violent fight.

Jeff Neffin hasn't fought since the Perry win because he got hurt. It was supposed to be Neil on Neil until that fell apart. You know what actually? I would like, I would like Uriah Hall to rematch Chris Wydenman now that they're in the USC. They're right, they're 9-10 in the rankings. Are they fought in the regional scene? Yeah, and I think

Cage did it. I think Uriah Hall has only lost The first two professional losses or something of that Were two unknown regional fighters Chris Wythman and Costa Filipu Costa Filipu Costa Filipu

Get the name drop, nice Firefighter Casas Filipu Dude Alex yawned She yawned me say Consta Phillips I can't stop yawning this way I don't know what it is It's nothing personal

Yeah You lost by TKO to Wyman and then got a majority decision lost to Philippaou and then beat in Ring of Combat, Atlantic City on April 8th, 2011. I hadn't even, I forgot this fight. Ang Lang Sang, Uriahal beat him on the regional scene. The guy from one? One championship.

What? That just lost, yeah. He just lost, but he was like the band over one championship? He lost? When? Like a week ago. Oh, man. I can't believe I missed it.

He lost, he got tapped first round. Oh, wow. Okay. That fight card inside the Matrix, I know we don't talk a lot of one championship fight, that was an insane card. There was Don Lee beat Martin Gwynne like pretty violently. And like he got him like up against a fence. And it was like one of those Vitor Belfort, Vandrelei Silva.

It was just like that. And then he clipped them. And they just went down. So we had two title changes. one championship enter the matrix so go watch that fight but yeah your eye hall has some odd regional fights that uh i've all big names anyway any other questions he bought some yeah you fought some tough guys coming up yeah in a row in a row was dana really cranky at his post fight media scrum hall versus silver suffered from habib retiring Alex you were there did dana white

seem cranky yeah what had happened was um Dana basically burst to the door like the koolay man and then just like stomps on the stage and just starts like ripping everyone a new one and everyone just like, can I hit record? Like, hold on a second. It was aggressive. I don't know. I didn't feel like there was any need for him to be so cranky. I didn't think it was that big of a deal.

I felt like there was a beautiful moment after the fight. There wasn't a lot of negativity showing towards Anderson Silva. But that's just me. I felt like I was missing something. That's Dana. He does the, he'll burst through the door or he'll know show pretty much. He's either burst through the door in a fear of rage. He knows shows or he's just like.

like he'll sit down and he'll just immediately just be like wow wow crazy night crazy fucking night guys that's pretty much how one of the three ways he goes you know showed a lot i forced him to storm out when i asked him a very basic question and then he was i guess that carried over to the anderson silver your eye hall fight so yeah he definitely seemed cranky that's for sure i think he was just upset your eye hall one honestly you think so i i don't i don't like he was super cranky after he'd bebe retired like not immediately Well, he didn't come up. Remember his post-presser after it was for something that was kind of like eight minutes?

Yeah, but something that was so spectacular and supposedly was going to outsell Connor versus. Dana doesn't like talking about the future because he doesn't know. Dana White doesn't look past like the next day. Dana White does not know the future. Big news. So Dana White doesn't like talking about future fights. It bothers him. Like anytime someone asked him, like, oh, what do you think about Peter Yan versus Al Jaljimate Stone?

He'll be like, I don't know. We got to talk about it next week. Like, that's always his answer. He does not like talking about future fights. And I feel like someone had to ask if Habib was retiring about the now vacant title. And that just bothered him. So he stormed off. So I feel like if I didn't ask that question, which had to be asked, he would have stuck around longer.

Just like, what? What just that goes like, you know what? Habib retiring is news to me. I got to sit down and think about it. this for a little bit. Next question. Go rewatch it. Go rewatch it.

I ask, so anytime you ask him a question, he says, what, what was that? And he turns his ear, you know he's mad because he doesn't like, he doesn't like a question. So go rewatch it. I asked the question. And he just immediately goes, I don't know. And then left. He goes, any questions?

No, all right. And they left. Everyone's like raised in their hand. I have a question. Nope, no questions. All right. They were definitely. And then like, no one got mad at me in the media room.

They were like, that was weird. Like someone had to ask. That was the most basic question. I was even like, that was just like, okay. I just said, could Connor's poor A-Bee for the now for the vacant title if he does retire? And Dan didn't like it. And he left. No one got upset.

Like in the media room, they were like, that was weird. Why would he get mad at that? Oh, I just, I just, to me, it looked like he was just grumpy that he just, his biggest draw. He wasn't that, he wasn't that grumpy, grumpy. He left. He left. After, after selling this big pay-per-view, I was like, that was grumpy. He was grumpy on the inside.

I'm telling you. Probably. I guess he'd do that grumpiness. What was the better middle-weight fight this past weekend? What middle-weight? Oh. Middle-weight main events. Oh, Miss Ossey Lima.

I disagree completely. It was a very technical fight, but... It was. But in terms of, like, an exciting fight, I thought you're eye-haal-andis-soil was a lot of fun. There were only 11 strikes thrown in the second round. I don't care. I'm joking. And that wasn't even true.

There were like 50 strikes thrown. Yeah, Anderson looked really good until he got dropped, which that he's just age caught up to him. Can't take those punches anymore. And Jariah won. I thought Musassi Lima was fun. I'm not saying it was a bad fight. It just happened to be the second best middleway main event, I think.

In terms of excitement. Oh, what if it's just going excitement? I can I can pull up street beefs and see some exciting fights. Yeah, dude, do it. Do I love street beefs. Have you know what? Street beefs is like the best fight. league now.

Like, have you been watching Street Beefs? No, dude. On YouTube? Street Beef's rules. It's like, it's a little cage. It's like, it's amazing. Street beefs. I think I want to fight for it.

Street Beef barely. Yeah. Street Beef barely. That's our favorite. That's your new soup name. All right. Next question. Yeah.

I'll go up this one. It was mad because he didn't like surprise. He's like one of his biggest stars retiring. Maybe I was mistaken, but being there. it didn't feel like he was overly angry. Maybe it came off different through, like, the streaming, but he didn't look overly mad. That was the shortest scrum.

I think I've ever seen him do post-fight, ever. Yeah. In my 10-plus years covering Dana White, I was like, wow. All right. And it was in a very exciting fight. It was a good card, too. I was like, wow. All right.

Dude. Here's a weird question. Hardcore casualty UFC fan I was hoping for Bobby Green versus Nate Diaz one day But that won't happen What matchup will produce The most in cage swagger slash taunting

Mike Perry versus Kevin Holley Is Mike Perry talk trash in the cage a lot? Yeah He screams At the top of his lungs And he like flexes and like punches his abs Isn't that bummer The UFC like Kevin Holland wanted that fight

He was ready Like, they could have done Perry Holland. I think that fight would have been awesome. What weight class? They take, Pauline say he'll go to meet him 180. Sure, but why make a catch weight when you have a welterweight that's willing to fight a welterweight? Because Kevin Holland's awesome. It's going to be a great fight.

Sure. It means versus Mike Perry is still an awesome fight. It's a fun scrap. Someone's going to sleep. All right. Well, I guess so. Sure. When you say someone's going to sleep, we're going to have a three on decision.

That's pretty much a one rule. That's true. Yeah, that's true. Look, everyone loves street beeps. They get everyone chiming in. Look at everyone. That's one person. Show us more.

Oh, dang it. Got him. Got him. Damn it, Mark. Big of sweat. I don't know. Who is it? Sean Strickland and K.

Whoops. Oh, my sound of back boys going crazy. Sean Strickland was talking a lot of greasiness in that fight against Jug Marshman. I don't think you're talking. greasingness. I think that was like, let's fight, man. That was out. That wasn't, that was like, that was just, that wasn't, he wasn't talking shit about it. He wasn't talking. He was just saying, fall down, man. I want a bonus. Fall down, man. I want a bonus. But he was like, telling 10th, saying it very loud. I think that'd be a fun fight. Okay. Big props to the U.C.

production crew, because it sounded like they actually had a mic on shot strictly. It sounded so clear. It was wild. I was like, when I first heard it, I thought it was the announcers talking. like it was the the audio was so crisp on him so yeah more fighters should more fighters need to talk more like take advantage of there's no crowd thing like i think they do we just have conversations not as loud yeah like i think he i think to the point where i think you could hear himself you know it was like when you're yelling you can actually hear yourself bouncing your voice bouncing off the walls so uh i like i like i like i like this um encouragement during a fight yeah, that would be a good one.

That would be a lot of trash talking in the fight, for sure. Kevin Holland definitely wants that, but I think he is what, I think he, we interviewed him yesterday. It has come out yet, but I think he said, he goes, I'm about four fights away, but I'll get it. Which I was like, yeah, I see that. I was just being realistic. It's also, it went live.

It's out as of three hours ago. And interview was live on the YouTube page. So after we're done with this, go watch Kevin Holland on what the heck. Or if it is on what the heck, or if it's just something. Go watch it. Street peace.

Definitely entertaining. Look it. Whatever, Zawazuki. What kind of name is that? Wow. Got him. It's from Brise Maids, but she was like, Stove.

What kind of name is that? See, pop culture. Don't test me. Michelle Pareda versus Kevin Holland would be contained the most taunting. That's middleweight versus a welterweight. Holland's Walterway. He just takes short notice fight that.

He's not. He's a middleweight. No, he fights at 170. He just takes all his short-notice fights. He won at 85. Why did he say he would only fight Mike Perry at 180? That's as far as he'll go down. Short notice.

Or maybe he's not going to 85 anymore. I mean, sorry, he's not going to Walter Wright anymore. He's literally not fought at Welterweight once in the UFC. He fights at Wattleroy. He fought Santos, Phillips, Mirchart, De Chico, all those cats. Brandon Allen, Buckley, it's a lot of middleweights. Maybe I'm mistaken. Whatever.

I think he's fought. I think Kevin Holland has fought welter weights that move up. He's a middleweight. Maybe all those, oh, maybe because everyone's late notice that he's fought in a lot of watch weights. Maybe that's the case. But like Mirchart, Phillips, Alessio de Chirico, Brandon Allen. Like his only losses are Tiago Santos and Brendan Allen, who are tough fights. Tagos Santos was super short notes

And he talked a lot of trash in that fight Dude though that's that's what made him a star That fight Big mouth He shouldn't have got his ass handed to him And he turns out like he made it you know Worth a while And then his two losses

He has three losses on the regional scene One of them I don't know who it is But it was five years ago And he ends in his last name ends in AEV So he probably just got beat up And then Hafeu Lovato and Curtis Millinder Where's the only losses on the regional scene as a win over Jeff Neal

who's the big name who's a Walterweight a Walterweight yeah I think he just fought out to Walterweight maybe that's maybe that's why I'm getting confused he fought welterweight he fought welterweight on the regional scene but it's not fallen

hasn't fought a welterweight since like 2017 okay see I'm not who's the big name to watch on the contender series tonight all right I can't remember his name but I interviewed him I think he's but I believe his name is Carlos Olberg

I know his last name's Oliver, I just can't remember his first thing off the top of my head. Carl's Oliver. Carlos Olberg is Israel Osama, one of Israel's main training partners. I actually interviewed him and Blood Diamond before Izzy's

fight because they wanted as they said verbal sparring because they had never really done interviews before and they were ungodly nervous before interviewing with me. They were like, what questions you can ask? They were like, what should I say? They were really nervous. They had never done interviews

but they're island to help the team prepare. It was obviously like Kai Carfranz, Brad Riddell, Shane and all that stuff, and then Izzy. And then Carlos and Blood Diamond were on weight, they said, just in case someone fell off. They were hoping for either contender series fight or if a light heavyweight, heavyweight, weltsweight, or middleweight fell off one of the fight island cars. They were ready to step in. So they were on weight ready to go. So Carlos Oliver, I think, is the main one to watch just because he has. Also, Alex, I heard that Carlos Olberg turned down the Bachelorette or Bachelor.

He was going to be the main guy in Australia. But he turned it down to focus on his fighting career. No, no, no. He was going to be the main guy, not just a contestant. Dude, you don't turn that down. I don't know. I don't know off top. That's Buckew Bucke.

Yeah. Dude, you're the main guy in the bachelor. You're an automatic main card after. after that. Like, what do you talk about? That's bad career. That's bad career advice. You take, now maybe a contestant, maybe, I don't know, but being a name. Carl Zolberg, sit in kickboxing star and nearly New Zealand's Bachelor. Rejecting offers to be of New Zealand's Bachelor. So, there you go. I don't buy it. I don't buy it. Unless it's not that popular there, I don't know. But like, even as a contestant, I mean, you don't go on the show

finding, like, looking for love necessarily. You're going for the Instagram followers, because that's passive income for a while. That's why you do it. But yeah, so I guess Carl Solberg is we got to watch. You're a nerd. Financial advice from Alex Davis. Financial reality TV advice.

This is it. This is why they do it. This is why they have to question. Are you here for the right reasons? Are you here for Instagram followers? Get that passive income. Hashtag ad. Yeah.

I will advertise anything. So I guess Carlos Alberg would be my answer. He's either 2-0 or 3-0 professionally. He's 2-0, and he hasn't fought. He has a lot of kickboxing match. Yeah, he's like kickboxing. He's got a ton of... He's like Izzy where he had...

He's like been training M.MA while he's had a kickboxing career. He's just waiting for the right moment. But he's... Izzy said that Carl Solberg was his main sparring partner for the Palo Costa fight because they're both just massive muscular dudes. So there. Carlos Solberg. Why are all the top 10 friend a frightened...

of fighting Ryan Hall. Casey? Why are all the top ten friends into fighting Ryan Hall? Well, see, the thing about the top 10, they like walking. They like having knees that bend a certain way or ankles that go a certain way. And when you fight Ryan Hall, your legs will be bent backwards. So they simply enjoy walking, and that is why they are afraid to fight Ryan Hall. I don't blame them. I don't blame him. Ryan Hall is a vicious, vicious warrior. here and if you get anywhere near him, he will just crumple your legs.

So that is why they are scared, running scared from Ryan Hall. Watch out. Watch out, everyone. Someone, I can see the YouTube comment. Someone's asking where the Carlos Olberg interview is. It's on our YouTube channel. Go find it.

Also, I believe Carl's, I looked it up because I want to give who he's fighting. Credit Bruno Olivera. He's 8 and 1 on a 3-5 win streak. because his last win was over Jared Gordon, former tough winner. So he's no joke either. So I think the main event of the container series tonight

is going to be bonkers. You watching? Yeah. I haven't watched. I don't think I've ever seen a Contender Series live. I've been to a few. They're fun to cover live. Yeah.

Yeah, sure. One more question. One more question. One more question. one more question I'm not going to go to that one I saw it yeah

dude dude dude do do do um where we at oh we're over an hour man we're over time we don't even have to do anything so we're out or this is the wrap

yeah it's a rabbing so for Jose this is Ben oh we got to hold on hold on we got to get our cool you know and and

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Oh, no, just, yeah, happy birthday to Candy Lee, the man of a scar, the Prince of Positivity, Chad Thunderwang, the bad boy. These are all real nicknames, people.

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