MMA Fighting - The A-Side Live Chat: Conor McGregor's 'GOAT Thread,' Jorge Masvidal's next fight, 'Fight Island,' more

Episode Date: May 28, 2020

For this episode, José Youngs and Petesy Carroll react to some of the top stories in mixed martial arts.  Some of the topics may include Conor McGregor’s recent “GOAT Thread” and the reaction it caused, the UFC’s upcoming card May 30, featuring the welterweight main event Tyron Woodley vs. Gilbert Burns, rumors surrounding “Fight Island,” Jorge Masvidal's next fight, as well as Petesy's going away party. Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Follow E. Casey Leydon: @ekc Follow Esther Lin: @allelbows Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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A few things. of note before we kick off. It has been one year since I took over this show. I'm sure everyone remembers the awful audio debacles I've gone through. And I'm glad we're here, but I'm sorry we're like five minutes late. But we made it nonetheless. And of course, on a little more somber note, this is Pizza Carol's last day as co-host of the A-side. I'm sure he has a lot to say.

I'm sure he'll have a nice send-off. But for now, Pizzi, what's the crack? That's not much, man. Just, yeah, perfect. It's just very warm here in Ireland, so I'm not really used to this. And my hair has got so bad now that I've had to wear a hat to cover it up

because it's so disgraceful. So I'm kind of putting myself in a lot of pain for you, people. I hope you know that. I'm out here shedding blood for the ice side once again. Blood? What is warm, by the law? When you say it's warm in Dublin, what is warm? It's probably like, you see,

we have the whole Celsius. Fahrenheit devoid here as well. So this is going to be tough. Okay. It's, it's like 20 degrees. So that's like a million in your 20 degrees. In your language, it is 34 degrees Celsius where I am. That's, look, look at this skin.

Do you think I'm building for this? Yeah, you would die. You and Oscar Willis would die. I think Oscar Willis would, would like get a way better time than me. And that's worrying. You know what I mean? Like, that is worried. I've got the word.

It might be the pastiest media member of all time. So you say British people tan better? Time better than me. Stay to me. Anyway, I'm sure Nye would just evaporate into the ether. But anyway, of course, this is not our show. This is your all show. I'm sure you have a million questions for Pizzi.

Probably numb for me. Maybe Casey will chime into. And we also, of course, it is Fight Week. We didn't have an episode last week because the technical gods hate us. for now Casey do we have any questions from our love yes sir

let's go to them right now I'll open up my notepat from Cam Kelly gang on Twitter hashtag the A side Mike Perry seems to have trouble finding people to corner him if you could pick anyone to corner him who would it be I'd go with the Diaz bro as well

first of all I'm the last person in the world to give Mike Perry advice I give him some hair advice. But yeah, I'm the last person that Mike Perry wants here for him. So, Pizzi, Mike Perry needs coaches who should be in his corner. Darren Till, just for sheer enjoyment of the people. Like, he'd try and fight his corner halfway true being in a fight, I think. It would be amazing.

And they won't be able to understand each other. It would be fantastic. Well, let's set the scene. Mike Perry recently posted, what was it, Twitter, Instagram, and one of his social media is that he was no longer having coaches in his corner and said it would be just his girlfriend because he's tired of coaches telling him what to do when they're not getting in there. He's too many cooks in the kitchen, I believe, is the phrase. He basically just wants to go out there and do his thing.

Whether that works out for him or not is another story, but he's coming off his loss to Jeff Neal, I think, was his last fight. Was that January? That was the Colby-Chevington-Kam-Uzman fight when Jeff Neal just tore through him, broke his face. Yeah, Diazbrose would be good I like the Darryntill I like a duo of Darren Till and Robert Whitaker cornering him because they would just be

They would be talking trashed Like really goofy trash at each other While screaming in Mike Perry And none of them would be able to understand each other Because they all have different accents They come into the cage during the rounds And they're all just beating the shit each other out of each other When they sits on the snow

Be magic I love that What's worse? Mike Perry's face tattoo or Darren Till's shoulder tattoo? Ooh, their boat roof is a dog's ass. So, um, they both rule. Yeah, who? What do you say?

They rule. They rule. What are you talking about? Well, every, every, every existed has been awesome. Well, let's let me, let's, to set the scene for Casey, Casey's the one that misses the tapout and Ed Hardy air of the UFC and regrets never getting or wearing one. So his opinions on what is cool looking go out the window.

Next question, Casey. This show sucks. I really wanted one of those that Hardy T-shirts. I'm so glad they weren't available in Ireland. What an unfortunate sentence. Oh, man. Yeah, like, I mean, I admit it. I know I'm wrong now, but I did want one at the time.

From Susanna Fights. My screen got really blurred for a second, so bear with me. With UFC Dublin canceled or postponed or whatever, which European city will the next to host a UFC event? and will it be before 2021 hashtag the A-Signed hashtag everything is hypothetical. Pizzi, I'll ask you, if it's not UFC Dublin, where's the UFC going first in Europe? Oh, the UFC, the UFC event. I know they were talking about Amsterdam for a while.

That would have been really cool. They were talking, they were also talking about Glasgow for it. That's what I heard. And then obviously Dublin, the first European city to host an event. I mean, the safe bet is London, right? I mean, it would be before 2020. I really doubt that.

I really doubt that. I don't know why. I just feel like the UFC is setting up on Foyd Island or in Vegas. Once the Nevada State of Lederick Commission opened them doors, I don't see why else they go anywhere else. And if they have Fyde Island there for international fighters, I don't see why they'd be rushing back to Europe. And, you know, who knows,

when different parts of Europe are going to be open again. The UK has been hit pretty hard. So it doesn't seem likely. It's very hard to fathom it when it could happen. And all the talk has shifted to Foyd Island. So I don't know before 2021, to be honest. And that's really sad when you think about it. But I know Cage, I mean, KSW are putting on an event in Warsaw

and a studio in July. I know Octagon, the Czech Republic have had a, are putting on events. they're about to put on an event, maybe this weekend or the next weekend. And there has been some other stuff. I've been watching in Eastern Europe. And so, I mean, there's a lot of events going on. But the UFC, I think that's a long shot, to be honest.

Very sad. Who do you think holds the first event in Europe, UFC or Bellator? From what I'm hearing is, all the European fighters in Bellator are currently trying to get visas. But they seem to be a lot more confident about the situation than, the UFC fighters were when the Jacksonville, when people thought Jacksonville was going to be the base or the Vegas was going to be the base. The UFC fighters, I was speaking, they didn't seem confident they could make that happen at all. But the Bellator fighters are confident that they will be able to get visas. There's talk of July US events, UK and Irish for it, going across for that.

I've also heard some fighters talking about September. So I don't know who's first to put on an event, probably. Probably the UFC, I guess. I don't know why, but you'd have to go with those lads, wouldn't you? Well, the UFC hit Dublin in 2021 then. For I hope so. I really don't know. I hope so.

I hope so, too, because then I can go and hang out finally. Yes, and we can go and get you that tattoo. Yeah. I can't remember his name. There's a tattoo artist in Ireland that I really have to get put on my body. There goes your discount. And it's gone. Nick, we have on the show.

Look who we have a special guest. Oh, hey, Esther Lynn. Oh, hello, Esther Lynn. She wasn't able to be on last week because the technical gods hate us, specifically me. So Esther, what's the crack, as Pizzi would say? I'm just here to, I don't know, be emotional support. Thank you, Esther. I need it as well.

I tell you that much. I was really looking forward to your debut. So this makes it even more special that you're making your debut on my farewell show for him. my fighting. Can we get Reggie to make his debut on your last day? I'll text Elaine and see if he'll come on. Hang on. Yeah. Yeah, Reggie. He's kind of working as a lion's assistant since everyone's working at home at the moment. So he just kind of, you know, she isn't even paying him to tell you the truth. She's a real, I mean, employment issues there big time. I mean, Reggie didn't get anything. He's getting paid in treats. It's ridiculous. Yeah, there's a lot of issues with

unemployment in Ireland right now, right? and taking advantage of debtors. Way to add to the BTGs. Hopefully I can get a job over soon. Jose just rubbing it in. A lot of unemployment there in Dublin, huh? Geez. That's one.

Casey, what are you drinking? Is that that gluey? What is you, what are you drinking? Coffee, soilant. Ew. I'm going to ask you I need to bring me up a can as well Casey what is our next question

Ah, questions Let's go to a video question Let's go to a video question right now Hold on one moment to get a cued up I mean it is evening in in Ireland So it's morning for Jose and I But well past 5 p.m. over there That's true that's true

I might I mean I've seen I've seen like you know Luke Thomas and Mark Romandie having a shot of proper 12 back in the day. Like surely like I mean, it's not frowned upon basically is what I've heard. Somebody gifted me a bottle of proper 12 for Christmas and has yet to be open. So someone gifted it to me before UFC 229. Good afternoon, Jose and Peter. Just wanted to send a message to me outflower Pizzi Carol on his last day at the A side. I figured I'd extend an olive ranch from Dublin's beautiful south side.

Look at this sun. sunny south side to the slums of Blanchettstown. And I would just want to know from PT, what has been your favorite aspects or event or article or whatever you choose from your time in MMA fighting? And most importantly, where can the fans follow you, follow your work and continue to support you as you move forward with your career?

Love you all. Peace. Thanks, Andy. That was lovely. That was beautiful jersey by, from Anne. I knew I liked him, but knowing he's a Celtics fan, just another level. His girl is actually from Boston as well. Oh, yeah. And they're living on the south side there. So my favorite moments, I think, was all the events we all did together.

They were definitely my favorite because it was so nervous. I can't, I can't even tell you, I couldn't sleep before the first event we did with Esther and Casey. And I was so nervous I was going to mess it up because I'd actually never been the on-camera person. I'd always been pointing cameras at people and no one could see me. So I was, you can ask Elaine, I didn't sleep for a couple of days before I went over and everything, totally spooked.

And then it was brilliant. Then it was brilliant. And, you know, we did Abu Dhabi first. It was great. Then we did Melbourne. It was great. And then we did, of course, with Jose in Vegas.

And it was brilliant. It was great crack. I loved it. They were all, they were all my favorite memories that spring to mine straight away. and what was and look, getting the Eurobache started

was brilliant. You know, Jesus, that was great. And MMA fighting gave us the platform for that because nobody had ever done that. None of the big sites had ever given a dedicated space for European MMA like that. And I think it worked out really well. And I think a lot of the European MMA fans

were brought closer to the different promotions around here. So really proud of that, like putting a kind of a bigger spotlight on KSW and CageW. and promotions like that. So, yeah, I think I answered that there. And you can follow me on Twitter. It's just my name, Pizzi Carroll. Look, it's even on the screen.

Bang. Yeah, that January card, we got so much work done on that McGregor card. We got awesome. Imagine you still at the Artaim interview. I know. It's like, talk like, shout out. What's his name? The one with that, that was the bandana?

Does break. Yeah, knocking out my mic, my mic adapter right before the interview. We were so excited. We got back to Esther and Casey. Oh, wait to see this interview we got and we press play. Shit. It was by accident, to his credit, there was way too many fans, and they were all basically climbing on top of me

while we tried to interview Artem, and he accidentally knocked out our microphone adapter. So we have Artem and a bunch of fans screaming, but it's like no audio. Look a Phil there. Phil probably was getting panicked phone calls before I got in the Floyd to Abu Dhabi, me going, oh, they're going to find her.

I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing. And then as soon as Casey start giving me like a few digs in the back of the head when he wants to meet the finished end. Yeah. It becomes, you know, becomes commonplace. Have you ever been, have you ever been kneading the thigh by Casey? Oh, it's not a fun time. Full on leg kicks and everything from behind.

It's all, it's, you know, it's fight week when we go out to eat lunch or something. And Casey's like, oh, what do they have? And he just, oh, they just out leaves you in the thigh for no reason. Anyway. Oh, well. We also got a question. question for Esther? Oh.

Hey, Esther. I believe they spelled your name wrong. Do you think that Pizzi is the most flexible man on the planet? Yes, I do. Actually, I have been present for many of those encounters. Yes, the fabled incident at USC 246 fight week where Pizzi Carroll decided to show me his flexibility in the middle of media day. Esther and Casey had front row seats to that. So I think there's going to be a lot of media.

that know that that exists because they were all there. I can't wait until you start requesting me to do it. Do you know what I think about Casey, Casey and the hidden thing? One of the scariest things that's ever happened was actually in Abu Dhabi when he was like messing after we interviewed Jojo Collinwood. He gave me like, tip me like on the leg. And Jojo was like, oh, I'll give you a proper one. I was like, no, no, no, no.

It's all fun and games here. Relax. Yeah, don't want to mess around Casey. I remember we were watching. I think I went to L.A. for, I think it was, what was it, Bola, PWG, and then it was me, you, and our former co-worker, Sean Al-Scii were watching the UFC Mexico City card. And then you were like, hey, let's roll. And then Casey just got full mount in about 30 seconds. I was like, I'm fuck all that noise.

I was like, I'm out of here. I'm going to go sit in the living room again. Yeah, I remember I kept doing, I was telling Shane, like, Shane, you're using too much strength. You're not going to see. You can't, you can't. He got tired immediately. You can't curl your way out of this one. He's so strong, man.

I didn't know he was so ripped as well. That was a real revelation to me when we got to Abu Dhabi. It was like, holy shit. Oh, yeah, he's kind of like, you know, you know, like the Simpsons when like Ned Flanders takes his shirt off? He's got like a six-pack and everything. That was like Shaheen, like, goddamn, Shane. You guys are saying all this now. You should go find pictures of him in college, man.

Really? Imagine Sean 100 more pounds of muscle. Yeah. Of just dense muscle. That's him in college. Anyway. What a dork. I don't.

Would he like super buff? he was just like really like power lifting and stuff oh I think he's really buffed now but he doesn't you know what I mean and then it makes you feel bad about yourself and you're like geez you look great sheen and he's like not really man this is me I haven't lifted weights in three years and you're like oh okay good afternoon Jose and Peter

Steven oh hold on what a man let's go to the next question from John Malkin Johnny Anto on Twitter been thinking about a potential Habib versus Justin G matchup. Justin has hit another level

with this new approach, but might Justin be better served going back to his kamikaze style of fighting in a fight with Habib? Well, interesting question. I would say no, considering this Justin Gaichi

that we've called calculated Gaci. I know there's like C-level K and motivated BJ and like all of these all of these like these phrases. Technical gaichi. Technical gaichi.

Yeah, technical gaichi. Technical gaichi is a terrifying individual. Indeed. Yeah, I mean, I don't fancy his chances about against Habib, to be honest. Like, I think he's brilliant, but I mean, I know he's a great wrestler and everything, but where all the fun is taking place in those gaichi fights, the fight doesn't usually stay there for that long for Habib. and, like, yeah, I think Justin's amazing. I think he's, I'd probably favor him over any other fighter at lightweight right now. But, um, Justin might just be the second best lightweight in the world.

Yeah. I want to see that fight so bad. I still want to see it, though. So bad. I really want to see this fight. Yeah, even if it's, because either, either way either guys wins, they're going to have to do something that no one in the history of Earth has ever done before. I mean, Habib will have to hold Justin down. probably 25 minutes hold them down and no one's been able ever been able to do that and on vice versa

someone's going to have to knock out habib you know because that's how that's how geachie would win so two things are two things might happen that have never happened so that's why i think their bite's incredible yeah yeah and just looking at like justin hasn't fought in a high level wrestler yet in the u.c if i'm not mistaken like there's i know there's a lot of like like lightweight is very striking heavy, but there are good wrestlers in Lightway, and he hasn't fought anyone. I know there's also no one on Habib's level, so I can't really say he's fought anyone like Habib, but who's he fought in? Like, Pori, Michael Johnson, Eddie Alvarez, James Vic, Barbosa, like, he's fought in dudes

that are going to stand there and just throw down. But he's fought in guys that have won matches using their wrestling, because I believe Dustin beat Max Holloway, because actually wasn't the striking, he was actually able to, he was actually able to wrestle Max and hold him against the cage and stall time. And Eddie's used his wrestling to win matches. Not in the not in the fight they fought with Gachi, but he's used wrestling to win matches. So I think he's fought very good. He lost both of us. I'm sorry? But he lost both of us. But not from wrestling, but not by not from wrestling just from the striking. No. Yeah. And the Bib will have to win through wrestling. I mean,

if a Bib can outstrike him, uh, Gachi, maybe tire him out and do kind of that thing where, um, was like the third round when he fought, um, McGregor and actually kind of won the striking because a tired McGregor is not a much different fighter from a hundred percent McGregor. So his foot was a balloon, remember? Oh, yeah. Yeah, come on, Casey. Come on.

My bad. My bad. My bad. Yeah. It's a fancy record, but he fought him with a balloon foot. Is that what he said on Twitter? The, like, the thing with, um, Habib just seems to be like, everyone's like, oh, can he take him down?

But it's like, it doesn't even need to be a takedown after watching the, like, when I, when I was watching the Porre for you up close and personal, it's like, it's not like he really needs to take you down. It's like, can he get a hold of you? Can he push you against the cage? Because he's not going to stop on his first shot. He's going to chain everything together. He's going to be working towards your back. As soon as you kind of defend the back or get an underhawk back, he's going to be on your legs again. It's just completely relentless. Like I've never, like, that was the craziest thing. I can remember me, Esther and Casey speaking about it after, immediately after waiting for the press conference to start. And we're like, it's hard to even for the

coaches to even advise Dustin what to do in that situation. He's all over him. He is all over him. He doesn't even have time to think about what's going on. These are all second nature, shame maneuvers from, from Habib to, to, to, to, you know, eventually secure the takedown. Like, I think his takedowns are so good. It's kind of echoed in McGregor and McGregor fans the way they talk about when they

fought like, oh, did you see the way he took him, that he is taking? down the fence for the first minute. But what happened? He went down. He took him down. So what are you saying? He did well to stop him from doing what he inevitably did for 60 seconds. Like, that's how good he is at taking people down. People wear it as a badge of honor that they were able to stop a take down for a minute. That's how good he is. I just, I think Gaichi is amazing. I love watching him. I've never watched a Gaichi fight that I didn't like. But I just think we are, we're very guilty of recency bias sometimes in this, in this sport. And to think he'll just run through Habib now is crazy to me.

And not that you guys are saying that at all. And I love the fight, but I just can't pick up. I think run through is, I don't think anyone's saying run through him. But I think I. That's what you said. I have it downhand. Haven't you taking the MMA Media 101 class, Casey? You spin it.

That's the headline. Spin back. But I favor Habib heavily. But I think I give Justin a bigger, not bigger, but I think Justin has a better chance beating Habib than Tony Ferguson. But I was saying that even before the fight fell off. Like the Tony Habeeb, the Habeb Tony fight I really liked. But in the back of my mind, I was like, the fight I really want to see is Habeeb Justin

because I think Justin has a better chance of winning. Yeah, I would agree with that, especially because Tony is pretty comfortable fighting off his back. So he would allow Habe to take him down as opposed to fight to get back up and thinking that he could defend himself there. but that's a good point actually yeah it's uh yeah i mean there's so much to think about in all these fights but um do you like i mean another thing about habib right is the thing that like i was there in msg when he fought johnson and it seems like before the conar fight they were

all like oh you know but he got caught with the left hand of johnson and you're like but what happened 30 seconds after that he's on the ground do you know what I mean, like, how is this, like, they made such a big thing about this. He got caught with the left hand and stuff. But have you guys, like, you guys covered, it'll be way more than me. Have you ever, like, is that the most he's been hurt? Do you feel when you've been there? Like, you're right beside him Esther when he's in these fights.

Like, have you ever genuinely been like, oh, no, Habib's in serious trouble here? No. Yeah. That's crazy, isn't it? Not at all. Danger he's been in, I think it was that guillotine that Porier got. And even he himself said it was really tight, but he got out. of it. That's the most danger I've ever seen Habib in. And I've never really thought, yeah,

that's really one of those situations where I'm like, they'll probably get out of it. It's pretty rare that I'm like, oh my God, this fight is so. Yeah. I think that that was on a few times, a handful of times of that, that we've seen Habib be 100% defensive. Like, like, only thing he'd worry about is getting out of this. I don't think we've ever had to seem. And that was So for every for how many fights he's at in the UFC 15, 20, I don't know, we've seen maybe 30 seconds of him being 30 seconds of, oh shit, Habib. Like, okay, got to get out of this. Got to get out of 30 seconds. That's about it.

So that's freaking incredible. Do you guys believe the mythology? I'm sorry? Oh, do you guys believe the mythology of like he's never lost around in AKA and stuff like that? I do you think that's kind of hamming up? and the dad's hamming it up. I think if he's not losing any rounds in training camp, he's probably training with the wrong people or training wrong.

You got to have people that are going to push you to the limit. You can't just be winning all the time in camp. Unless you're just God and just can't lose to anyone. How are you supposed to learn anything if you never lose? That's what I'm saying. Like, how are you going to like, hey, win or learn? Win or learn. That's a great point, Esther.

Oh my God. That's it for the A side. We're good. See you next week. All right. Don't get any final say. That's our final segment. And Steve.

All right. Let's go to another video question. Video question. Hold on one moment. Just a second to queue up. I still hear he is. Oh, we forgot the music. The waiting for the question music.

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Jeffrey B here. Jeffrey Ahmed Balo. Just did my Helwani boxing. Listen to the last episode of Eurobath and Emma McViting. Feeling very nostalgic. That time I sent you my first video from a Starbucks and there wasn't a pandemic one.

Those are the days. So listen, I want to cry a lot, but that probably won't be the most pleasant viewers. So let's talk Conner's goat thread this week and have the goat discussion. Let's make it a bit more fun, a bit less high pressure. Let's admit it's a subjective discussion. There is no mathematical technical analysis. That's completely objective here.

There's always going to be your personal bias. Aalel was talking to DC earlier in the week and he was saying, if we made the top five greatest fighters of all time list, very specifically the fighter can never have been tainted by any drug allegation whatsoever, then he would have put GSP one, DC two, and it would have been a different list. So like, let's let our freak flags fly. What are our personal preferences here?

Pizzie Carroll, I ask you, sir, the dearly departing. Good luck in your future endeavours, Mr. Carroll. Mr. Young, chime in. Casey, please. But Pizzi, who are your top five, and I would really like you to speak to each one of your top five very specifically. And catch you soon, bro. Peace.

legend. That was beautiful. That was the best video question. One of the best video questions we ever had. Also, shout out to the Luke Thomas Live Chat shirt. He's been around for a hot minute. So shout out to that question. What was this, what was his name again? I apologize. Jeffrey B. Jeffrey B. I wrote it down and I lost my notebook. Shout out to Jeffrey B. No books in the video this week, but 10 out of 10 shirt, 10 out 10 question. We didn't get to talk about it last week when it was the most prevalent. So Pete, you'll start with you,

Connor's goat list. He put Anderson Silva first. He put himself second, but he said there's an argument that he could be first, and it will, easily, he could see himself

being number one when it's all said and done. I believe he put, what, John and GSP were like three, four. And who was fifth? DJ was DJ in the mix? Jones and DJ?

And then, I don't know. No, he said, he said DJ wasn't, didn't compete against enough quality opponents to be considered. He said that someone asked DJ about him about DJ. He said, loves Mighty Mouse. In terms of skill, he's one of the best,

but he left during a rivalry that was one in one to jump to another promotion out that doesn't have the best fighters and is fighting second tier competition. But he gave Demetri Stanchin his credit. He just said he removed himself from the goat thread. And then someone brought up Habib, and he said, fancy record, but he only beat me with him and I had like a broken foot or something like that. So he puts himself second and then like GSP John were three, four.

So GSP, the only thing knocking him was he only came back to fight a one-eyed fighter and vague and never like defended. Yeah, didn't come back to defend after the controversial decision win. Yes, correct. So P.C. what he'd make of the you could give your opinion on Conner's goat thread if you want

but what's your top five I'll say top four we'll do Mountain Rushmore my number one is GSP I don't I don't really yeah I don't I don't really look beyond

I don't really ever do this top five madness so everything's allowed here right this is if you know you've been pissed hot anything Jones has to be next and

like I loved Anderson Silva. I love BJ Penn. I guess in hindsight, their careers, you know, BJ's career has been tarnished, unfortunately. Anderson's probably not so much,

even though it seems like in this sport, you know, any other sport, we've talked about this before, Jose, if this was baseball, he'd be struck from the record. But I got out of Anderson then.

And I feel like I'm leaving out of people. I know Esther and Casey and Ozzy are going to kill me. here and say names and I'm like, oh, for God's sake. Do you have, do you have a newness in then? You got it because, you know, two-way champion. I mean, which she's about to try to defend. She's about to try to defend her featherweight championship, too. So she could be the first one as well.

I think DC, DC has defended both, but he wasn't heavyweight champion at the time when he, when he defended against Vulcan. So she would be the first two-way champ to defend bolts while raining in both divisions simultaneously. if she'd be so too I feel like you have to have two lists one is like so Connor doesn't make my list

the top five just greatest fighters of all time but he definitely makes my list of greatest prize fighters of all time yeah yeah big difference there's a really big difference to me like like Rhonda Rousey definitely makes my prize fighters list

and actually she might make my fighters list I mean my fighters list is maybe a troll job but you were asking about who didn't. Jeffrey asked about who would still be on that list if they couldn't have also been tainted with drugs or failed any drug tests. And that actually takes out quite a few people. And so for my, yeah, for my Mount Rushmore, that really just leaves GSP, Sakaraba, Rousey, and Fador. That's a great one. That's a great one. I mean, that's a really good list. That's a brilliant mistake.

I'm trying to pick the people that I would actually want on there. Fader, obviously, his view on women is a little problematic or maybe very problematic. Habib, though. So, I mean, what are you going to do? But, yeah, I mean, yeah, if you're going for people who have never failed a drug test, that's actually a little bit difficult because almost everyone's kind of failed something here or there. I do agree with what you are saying, though, about, like, I find myself when I'm reading these threads by Connor, I'm looking at the people criticizing him.

I'm like, no, you're wrong. Like it's not, it's not as simple as he didn't defend the oils. He's crap. No way. He's brilliant. Brought so many oys to the sport. Absolutely electrifying. Like, I've never been as electrified as watching a Connor McGregor fight life in his prime.

That Mendez fight, things like that Diaz, unbelievable. But I also can't see him. I'm the greatest fighters of all time. You know, I can't, I can't see him as like the goat either. But I do, I do feel like it is a very nuanced thing with Connor because he's doing so many things for the sport. He's pushed, he's pushed the sport to a completely new level. He's transcended the sport. So I think for people to completely rid them off as well, I think that's a great way of the point of actually,

greatest of all time and greatest prize fighter of all time. I mean, if you're going to even prize fighting, like Chale Son is like top four, like top two. Lesnar's in it? Brock Lesnar. Like, these guys that brought, like, Chal Sondon changed the way we, like, single-handedly changed the way we sell fights. Now, every single, like, the Colby Covingtons and the Ben Ascerns are all, oh, he's just copying Chal Sondon.

Like, obviously, Chal Sondon took a lot from Muhammad. You took a lot from Gorgeous George. But Chale Sondon completely single-handedly changed the way we sell fights to, like, he's, like, his last non-Markey fight, I can remember, was Nate Markhart. and then since then, even then, May Mark, our former Strike Force champion. From then, he's basically only for Hall of Famers from that point on. So Chale's son wasn't might have been the greatest fighter skill-wise, but he's top two. I'd say him, Connor, or like in terms of drawing interest in a fight and selling a fight.

Brock Lesnar was just, like, Brock Lesnar didn't have to say anything. He just looked at him and you wanted to see him fight. He was just a, he's a different specimen altogether. Well, that's part of it. Him not speaking is part of it. Yeah, it's like Fedor. Does Fadar stand up in the, in the greatest argument? Like I can remember.

Absolutely. Move on. Yeah, so many people say he doesn't. I think I loved Fadar. Like he was such a big part of me even getting into the sport. My brother used to have all these videos of him, Bas, Root and things like this. You know what I mean? And it meant so much to me to watch them back in the day.

And of course, he's not, he's not the most sculpted man in the world. And then to see him fighting these Adonisus and doing what he did, I thought it was incredible. And then when I kind of, would be talking about these things. Maybe fans who got into the sport through the UFC, they'd be like, oh, come on, man. It was all fixed out there. Oh, it's on this.

You know what I mean? I'm like, ah, breaking my balls here, guys. You know what I mean? Do you guys happen? Yeah. This is how I feel about it. Even he remained undefeated for nine years. A heavyweight division.

And that's just very difficult to do no matter what. There are no heavy weights that remain undefeated for that long, that fight for that long. Because ultimately there's going to be a knockout. At some point, there's going to be a moment when you even just slip on a banana peel and accidentally lose. That's just not something his dominance was from actually, well, we all kind of agree with this later, but that is the fact that he was a light heavyweight fighting at heavy weights. Not cutting weight made a very big deal for him.

His speed really played an advantage. Well, it didn't play too much of an advantage when he fought people who were, massively larger than him, but also fast, correct? So I would say the other problem is I have a hard time counting someone's career in this greatest of all-time conversation once they've started to fall off because it's not really fair. Some guys just don't know when to retire. Actually, most guys don't know when they can't all be triple C

and know to get out when they're on top. That doesn't happen. Most people like BJ will go through. this kind of like decline naturally at a continue to hold on to past glory. Yeah. No, you're dad, right. I still have lots of, um, my whole goat thing is to me, you always have to just, I think the unquestionable goat is GSP because he kind of fits

all my criteria because there's so, so say you want to count Amanda Nunes or Connor McGregor, well, basically you're discounting, uh, Connor's early two losses outside of the UFC. And Amanda Nunes, you're counting, you're discounting her three losses when she got, no, she got finished by Alexis Davis. She got finished by Katzenegano. You're really, to me, you're counting her prime, you know, when she kind of hit that, her last, like, maybe four or five years when she's just been completely dominant. But you're kind of discounting the early years.

With GSP, from the first punch he threw for money to the last punch he threw for money, he was always the best, or at least one, two, or three of the best. and I just think that's just really incredible. And I really disagree with Connor's assessment that DJ shouldn't count because he's a small guy or whatever. I think that's ridiculous because I think the smaller the weight classes, the better the athletes are. And I think those like those 45 guys and under, you get the best athletes in those sports because anything higher than that, especially the 70s, 80s, why we don't get lots of good heavy weights is because those guys are going to. the sports, we get real money. But say the little guys like DJ or even Josie Otto talked about this, he was just, he was

never big enough, just his frame was never big enough to play to play professional soccer, professional football or whatever. And so I think what DJ does at those smaller weight classes is actually more impressive than big old heavy weights. Interesting just what Esther was saying there about Henry. I kind of feel like we should be selling. that way more. The fact that, like, you know, he, I know there's the whole thing,

is he going to come back or whatever? But the fact that he is literally stepping away from the game at the very top, having achieved everything he pretty much set out to achieve, I think that should be so much more commended than it is. And not to say that I've been online jumping up and down saying, you're the man, Henry? I probably should be. But do you think we should be kind of celebrating this more than it is?

or are we just reluctant because we think, hey, in a few months' time, he's going to be back. I think there's a lot of questions. If this is a wrap for him, I think you have to throw them at least in your top 10 all time and in two-way classes, being considered, like arguably, not arguably, the greatest flyweight of all time.

And then there were two people that people were arguing the greatest banner weight is, T.J. and Cruz, and he finished both of them. The only knock is he has that loss to Benavita is that he probably could have run back, but he just didn't. But that's his choice.

Go ahead, Kase. I know I see you trying to say something. Oh, we not count Hennon Moral anymore because he destroyed his legacy after he lost? Because before when Hindenbrow had his run, I, like Hindenbrot doesn't exist anymore. I find that the weirdest thing. But I guess that goes into the HIN. Yeah, but P.J is the same, right? And retiring when you're on top.

I think it's done. BJ is one of the greatest players ever in his prime, but he's tarnished his legacy. I feel anyway. Yeah. Like, I mean, it got this to such a point that we're like, even, it wasn't even the fights then. It was like, you know, street. fights. Like it would, that was, that was, that was really, I was, I was enamored by BJ Penn at the height of his career. I thought he was amazing. I used to nearly start weeping when he walked out of

that amazing entrance song. I just, everything about him was like a superhero to me. And the fact that I think even like the model that was with BJ that the worship of him in Hawaii was very like the worship of Connor in Ireland. So I feel like that's something they kind of copped onto with BJ that if you have a whole pretty much native. It makes you so much more special. It makes you a symbol. It makes you bigger than just a fighter. And I think it's terrible that he's not in the argument anymore,

but I can also understand why. I think it unfortunately has been tarnished. Legacies don't pay mortgages. So that's true. Legacies don't pay your mortgage. Legacies don't buy that new car. So, yeah. I don't like when people say they're happy that suitors retiring on top like well if he has enough money go for it but otherwise I mean that what's that but that legacy might make him more money in pro wrestling no because he can come in there you know thinking though he's like it would open a lot more it will open a lot of avenues for him yeah like going yeah I think if you're able to actually preserve it and keep it intact you can perhaps leverage that

into future endorsements and sponsorships that will lack longer than the time of your career on top as a fighter. Unfortunately, as a fighter, you just can't stay at top that long without also incurring an ungodly amount of damage to your body. It's, I am actually kind of thinking about the, you were talking about the wrestling there,

kind of a segue into like, and now I might further going into wrestling. And there's a lot of times talk about Colby Covington now. And I know Colby Covington's, he doesn't present himself as the greatest human being in the world. But I think he's certainly one of the best fighters, you know, at Welderweight, like a very elite guy. Like, I mean, is this a bad look for the UFC that we're essentially letting Sehudo go because he can't get paid the right amount of money? And, you know, Colby, one of the best fighters is, it seems like he's trying to position himself into the

wrestling world. Like, is this, is this a bad? look for the sport, you know, in 2020 when it's meant to be, you know, when it has this opportunity to be mainstream, well, while it's going forward when everything else isn't, you know, it just, it seems to me that that's crazy that a champion, a decorated champion like Zahudo can just walk away. Like they can't, they can't even have a conversation about money. That's, that's loyal to me. The bill would have to change for the UFC in terms of how large their operation is versus so how the size of, say, boxing promotion, because boxing, well, so box, box, Boxers make a ton more money because of that revenue that comes in for their events is a lot larger.

So if you think about how it's compared to like Henry will never, he could make more with the UFC. And is it a black guy for the UFC for them letting him go basically because they couldn't pay him? Yes, yes, it is because they're going to continue to lose athletes this way. But does it matter in the long run? that remains to be said. We don't know if people as fans are more attached to the individual fighters or if they're more attached to the UFC as a promotion. Hey, Esther, how's Fezik doing behind you?

She's very sleepy. Ah, God. Oh, both of them. Ah, God. That was some point they had the other day. It's good to see they're getting back to normal. Well, right, right. What weight classes?

Who's heavier? I think it's heavier. Okay. She's coming in. She's coming in. What is she coming in now? What's her walking weight? It's like,

she's about 32 pounds. Ooh. Yeah. Rubel was only like 20 pounds. Reggie is what? It's like 17 pounds or something. Yeah. He's like,

I know. I think he's, I think he's seven kilos actually. So he's, yeah, no, he's about, yeah,

I think he's, yeah, I think he's, thank you for the question. That was a great question. I enjoyed that thoroughly. Smaller white classes don't sell for the UFC. That's pretty much what I heard.

It's true. In general. Oh, I got it. From the user comments. From Maria Grownon, U.S.C. has copyrights to UFC. UFS.EA. Will this be the name of Fight Island? I don't know if that'll be the name,

but I can almost guarantee you that'll be the hashtag. That'll be the T-shirt, all right. I don't think that it'll be the name of Ireland. I think they just did it so that no one else could take that copyright in the trademark. Because after it was suggested, there's likelihood that someone would go out and try to trademark it. So the UFC being, you know, pretty hawkish business folk. How dare you? And get that copyrighted.

It's too bad that last week tonight didn't get that trademark first. It's because then the UFC would owe the money. Yeah, no. I don't think it's actually going to be. used. Maybe for a barge fight. That would be great. I think it will be a T-shirt and the hashtag, but that's, I don't think that's

going to be the official name of the fight. I think it'll be like UFC Fight Island 1, UFC Fight Island 2, whatever you want to call. The first events are, it's going to be called Brawamas. We know that. It's going to be called what? Fight at the Brahmaunas. And that's A-Sai. Thanks for watching.

We out. What do you guys think of what look like? You're the creatives. You're the creative. people here. What do you imagine it looks different? Like the event there will be, if it's Foyne Island, will there be like C in the background?

Will it be like, will it, or will it just be another event? Like what's like, how are they going to convey Foyd Island to the watching world? You know, if that, they made such a big deal. It feels like if it was just in the same room as the rest of their things, people like, meh. Yeah, you know, normally the UFC when they go to other territories, they have a tendency just to repeat and build the exact. exact same show so that you would actually, without that external, you know, aerial shot that they do at the beginning of the broadcast, you would not know what it is.

But for this one, I would hope that they change that up. And I hope that they actually kind of remind, like they maybe build it out more like the very first Abu Dhabi show where it was like an outdoor arena and had like a kind of a sheer covering over the octagon to protect the lighting grid. just do it like that, I think, because honestly, I mean, I've shot a lot of outdoor boxing and there's nothing better than the photos you get from something daylit. Action is so crisp and sharp and just immediate. It really honestly is one of the best experiences and I would love to see them actually highlight the location of the... their fights. And I think they might because, I mean, if you're going to spend a bunch of money

on buying an island for this whole thing, you really should show it off. Yeah, yeah. That's, um, the, the talk is, I see Twitter a buzz with the talk that it's Yaz Island. Do you guys think that would suit if it were to use that? Because, I mean, we were out there, as I said earlier, August was it last year for the Habib and Porier fight? That's not really an island. It's just kind of a, I mean, then it's just, it's just an obanabi.

It's just, they're just having bites in Abu Dhabi. That's all that's happening. Oh, man. It was so hot. It really was. And they didn't have a facility. So what the hell is? I mean, I guess they don't need the crowd, right?

I don't know what the regulations are in the UAE. So the UAE is going to just allow it. I mean, it would be easy to keep people quarantined in the sense that like there's lot of resorts there that are all inclusive so they could kind of push everyone into a place that one street on yaws island where like all the hotels are i mean could pretty much just keep everyone in that one area but i don't know it's not really an island it's like a it's not really an island yeah i don't even know what it looks like it's just hot like geographically i have absolutely no idea uh i don't even know where it's going to be so i can't even

and fathom what it's going to look like without even geographically knowing where it is because I would want a theme. So if it's not, if it's, I got to know where it is before I and pick my theme. I just think everyone's, everyone's impression what Fy Island is going to be is completely wrong because their impression is going to be outside during the daytime and there's going to be some mermaids and a beach and a couple of dolphins jumping over the cage. It's just, it's just, it's just. Oh my God, dolphins. That's what I'm going to see. That was the, so good. dolphin, you know, and you just quix.

Oh, yeah. The highlight of my week in Jacksonville outside of Tony versus Justin was seeing dolphins outside my windows in the harbor. That was for sure my... Oscar Willis messages to me, he goes, there's sharks outside. And I look and it's just dolphins. I'm like...

I'm just like, British people are crazy. Those are dolphins, Oscar. Look at those. Look at those. cute sharks. To be fair, you can only see, like, you could see, like, them, like, emerge with their fins and they go right back down.

So if you've never seen a dolphin before and you just see, like, that, that fin pop up, you're going to freak out. But I was like, that is obviously a dolphin fin. Anyway. Well, sharks are cute, too. They're misunderstood. They can be. They're also terrifying in the worst creatures in the world.

Oh. No, they're wonderful. No, I hate everything about them. If they're so horrible, why do they have a horrible? Why do they have a whole week dedicated to them? I don't know. There's no Jose week. There's no Dolphin week.

There's no Pizzi week. Because I'm not a shark week. I'm not a swimming dinosaur that wants to eat every living creature in the world. Like, they are the worst thing. That's why they're so awesome. Why don't you try it out, man? All right. Don't knock it.

Give me some tips. Gets you can't swim. Next question. I wish there was a Pizzi week. That would be awesome. It's Peezy week. All right. Let's get some...

Boral story, sharks are terrible and sharks should not have their own week. Next question. With Mazurl apparently, quote, in camp and Uzman and McGregor... Really being discussed at the moment, who is he fighting? My prediction, Diaz rematch.

God. Well, if he's going to take a fight, I only want to see Jorge Madzadal fight. I'll see him fight any of those three. If you want to make the most money, it'd probably be Connor. If you wants the belt, it obviously would have to be Kamaru,

and then the Diaz would be the third one because what other fight would he want to even entertain out of those three that would make him any sort of money. So, Pete, he'll start with you. What do you think what's next for Jorge, Jorge Mazvedal? The BMF champion, if you would. I just wonder what happened with the Usman negotiation, because it never seemed to get off the ground. Like, how far off were they from that league? Because it seemed what was definitely going to happen. Dana told us it was definitely going to happen how many times in january like i mean i wonder what happened there i don't it doesn't make any sense um i think mcgregor's not going to happen uh there would have been way

more talk of that if if they were going to make that fight i think and i think he's just posturing for that diaz thing to uh get whatever he wants from the usman fight um like usman and mcgregor makes no sense really like i mean it doesn't really the only thing it makes sense in terms of is McGregor's previous prophecies when he was like 2014 or 2015 about being a three-time champion and him having that ability to get anything that he

wants basically out of the UFC but I don't think it's a great fight for him to be honest the size of Usman unbelievable and what's next for what's next for him as well I still think it might be Usman I still think him might be Usman I think it's that

Jorge did say let's run it back I hope you're at least you've got a new ab routine and this and that all aimed at Nate Diaz. But I doubt Dana wants to make that fight. Dana didn't want to make that fight the second it happened. I mean, uh, do you remember our coffee talk after USC 244 at Casey now? We're like, rematch. We want the rematch. We were like, there are questions out there. And then Dana was like, nah, no rematch. That cut was deep. And we were like, oh, okay, I guess that's the end of that. So, uh, move on. I want the rematch, but I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. Nate Diaz never gets

his rematches unless it's Connor. And then even then he lost the second one. he never got the third one. We're Grey Manor. That's all he gets. He just gets Gray Manor. Just keep fighting Gray-Maned. That's an idea. That's a Nate Diaz.

We didn't get a question for Nate Diaz, but Nate Diaz versus Gray-Manner because that's obviously stupid of what's happening. If McGregor fights and fight, and who does he fight? Hopefully, I want to see him fight Tony, but I don't think Tony should fight for the rest of the year. I don't think it'll be that.

Because there's a history there with paradigm as well and stuff. I just don't think they're going to do that. If Connor doesn't see value in you to take from you, he doesn't want to fight you. You know? Like there's like and Tony's value unfortunately as far as Connor's concerned went when he lost to Justin Gage. So it's just I kind of feel like it's a huge leap to go from the Soroni to Gagie after what Gagee just did. So I'm kind of like, would they do Diaz?

Would they do the trilogy fight? Could they possibly do that? You know, if he was willing to travel and stuff? Like, I'm very confused. I can't read, read it. What is that comment saying? Suzanne from YouTube says, Ptie is smiling, but his eyes look so sad. That's just Pizzi's face.

Oh. Oh, the lip quiver. I think we always, I mean, oh, he always sad. Let me see. What if that's just the way you look? Yeah, that's what I say. Like, Diji's not sad. That's just Ireland.

It took everyone a long time to get used to how I look. And now they're like, whoa, his eyes have different emotions than his face. I mean, his mouth, it's hard. That's the sadness of Ireland in his eyes. Oh, that's a lot of sadness. Centuries of oppression, bad weather, and starchy potatoes will do that to you. What's the wrong with the potatoes? Hey, we've mastered the potatoes.

I like potatoes. Just as much as the next guy. Well, maybe not Casey because that's the only thing that he eats outside of his pasty soil. I love potatoes. It's going to happen someday, guys. Oh, we have potatoes? Some days we'll all back together. Have we had like, how many potatoes?

How many potatoes have we had together? Psy, like, oh. This is a, you know, seven d'clock. Hey, Casey, are potatoes better than sharks? Sharks have their own weak. Pothatives don't have their own week. Dude, it's potato much. What are you talking about?

Oh, okay. How much? Has there a hotel. Is there a whole week dedicated to it on television? Probably not. Look, I'm looking on Twitter. All right, then here we know. Question.

No, the UFC Chestnut International Potato Week. Okay. Casey's no longer on the camera. He's going to work on his lifelong product to making a documentary on Soylent and Potatoes. Next question. You should actually check out a fighter, Will Flurry, a Bellator middleweight,

and he has a hashtag called Spud Life. He's in Ireland, and he makes it. lots of meals after his workouts with spuds. It's a beautiful thing. What a quality urge, man. Well, don't will. Good shout out. Two-part questions from Buantello O'Berner.

Don't fear me on Twitter. Two-part question. Where's the best chance at slowing down France and Gano and how fast do you figure Paul? Paul, Wenzuela. I can't even read this. Paul Wenzuela. All right.

Back, Montello. Answer both questions, if you so choose. Paul Wendell. Who is the chance? Yeah, man. That's a blast from the past right there. Who's the best chance of slowing down Francis? Steepa, obviously.

They didn't want us already. And Bontello, I don't think the heavyweight division is ready for him to reemerge. I don't, I think, I think Francis would be very worried if Paul showed up out of blue. Definitely. Is Francis, does he fear the consequences? This isn't, this isn't for you conner nobs out here. go go and fight pass and look look that up yeah bontella was a quality shout there jesus crud did he have did he have one of those big back advertisements the last time he fought in the

ufc or is that just my imagination like golden palace dot com one of those or something yeah yeah something like that i think he might have been one of the old guys to have one in the ufc because there wasn't a lot but obviously it's still it's really still chic in ksw having the old body type of body advertising Was Paul Vantuello the one that tapped out to strikes against Overeign? You got to need in the gut and tapped out from getting kicked really hard? That was Brock Lesnar. No, definitely not. It was definitely a strike force.

It was definitely a strike force. Strike force. You're right. It might have been in the strike force. I was like, they didn't have a fight in UFC. It was definitely a strike force fight. I think he was like Overeen fought a former heavyweight, like, fighter, Paul Bantwello. And then he gets, like, destroyed by getting kicked in the gut.

And then he taps out to it. I feel like that's the right guy, but somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Overim is some hoilerail, isn't he? Holy shit. Yeah, you're telling me. I can't read this. Why don't UFC fighters walk with their belts like they do? I'll tell you why, because they just don't want to.

We asked this question of Faber and Andre Feely, and they were like, I, it's kind of corny. Also, Shogun walked out with his belt once, and John Jones looked at it. It was like, oh, I'm going to destroy this man and take that belt. So there you go. Hit your hits. When SBG. Well, they also don't get to walk out with that. a huge entourage.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. You don't get like a bunch of people. The fighters themselves, the boxers themselves don't carry the belts anyway necessarily. It's like, you got like 10 people behind you, each one carrying belts. I want to be one of those people. Just, just carry a belt.

Who carried Connor's UFC belts? So Connor had both belts out when he walked out against Floyd. I'd say, yeah. Well, Covney used to do this thing, Cage Warriors, because they, SBG pretty much dominated cage case contender in Ireland it was groundbreaking

promotion at the time was brilliant it was amazing and he used to kind of walk out before the fighter with the belt and they'd kind of follow him behind

and they'd make their ring walk I thought that was a good way to do it like the coach is coming out with the belt at the start and then the fighter is able to do whatever he wants with his walkout

I thought that was pretty badass what I want to know is how come Fodor doesn't walk out with his WAMA championships anymore it's a good question you know I wonder

the A side. Where is it? The reason that the UFC fighters don't walk out with their belts is that, actually, I got to say the WC belt is just very fancy looking. And also the kind of the thing about boxing is a lot of those guys have multiple belts in different organizations. So to be able to walk out holding like four different belts is really different from just holding four of the same. Just a bunch of old belts. And now like, I thought you would get in like what, like Henry. could walk out with two. That's the most.

Like, yeah, I agree. You see the green belt and then you see like the red white and blue with the gold. I can't remember which ones are which. And then you see like the money bell. It's the burgundy one. It's the burgundy one. It would be phenomenal. MMA fans don't realize that MMA promoters are a little cheap, but boxing promoters every time you win, every time you win a title offense, you get another belt. So that's why, remember DJ when he could DJ finally get that photo of nine belts. So, but the UFC they they don't give you a belt. They give you a ruby now. So they yeah, they used to give you belts. And that's why the DJ put took that photo right? Yeah, of all his belts. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is

so upset and that like this new belt is just basically to save few quidly. I don't know, man. I kind of like I kind of like rubies. It's kind of fun. I don't. Don't. Do I want all the fucking belts. Not wait. We just get rings. I like. You want the fighters walk out just a bag full of jewels. Like, I'm the champ. Yeah. Are you kidding? You wouldn't want to see a fighter walk out?

Like, come trying to take my jewels, man. Like, come on, Casey. What kind of question is that? I can see that. You know what? Maybe you're right. Maybe like. I'm fighting for a bag of rubies.

I still want to see them fight for a literal bag of money. That's what I'm saying. Forget your belt. Forget all your bells. If someone puts a bag of jewels above the, above the oxygen, whoever wins gets literally a bag of jewels, sign me up, 10 out of 10. That's amazing. That is a great idea.

Indiana Jones style, like, you got to go through obstacles to get the rubies. And you have to pull, you have to rip your opponent's chest up and pull the heart out. Do Indiana Jones, right? Is that? I don't think you ripped the heart out. I think you got it carved out and then you got to eat. So you had to have to eat the heart, too. You're sick, man.

You're just. Yeah, go back. shark week. It's potato month. Okay. Baby. All right. You know, we are, we actually have one more video question but we kind of answered it already, but he

submitted it, so I want to make sure he gets a chance to do be on the show. Oh, and on one moment. It's Pizzi's last last episode. Yeah, I know. We can go longer. Absolutely. Which one? Wait, which one

did I already ask? I forgot. You did Jeffrey? Oh, here it is. Here it is. And you did. Andy. You got to switch to audio inputs. Uh-huh.

Here we go. Here we go. I'm just going to leave. What's going on A-side? It's Mike, J-B. So I think Fight Island is really just a front for the new Fighter House for the ultimate fighter reboot if there is ever one. I'm curious what you guys think about that.

Anyways, that'll be all for me. Shout out to all of the enemy fighting. Esther, Casey, Jose Young, O's Young Hair. Another special shout out to P.T. Carroll. Best of luck in all you do, brother. And, uh, thank you. Have a good one, guys. Legend.

What a fucking hero. Mike JN.B. is always on the scene for every single UFC fight week. So if you're a MMA fan and you're standing outside of that, the arena or at Wayans, there's a 10 chance you'll see Mike JV at least walking around and saying hi to everyone. So that is a dedicated USC super fan if I've ever seen once. So he thinks this is a front for a tough, the Foyd Island. I had never even thought or a word of them.

Well, I know, like, look, Yuri Prohaska, Molly McCann, all these European fighters are putting up emojis and social media posts. that suggest that they are on the way to wherever or whatever Foyd Island is. So I think it's definitely not a frown for tough, but I'm very interested to hear more about this conspiracy, to be quite honest. I would love to hear how you put that together. I love a bit of that. Look into it.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm actually really just curious about the logistics of the whole Fide Island thing just because you got to think about there's got to be a medical facility. There's got to be a way to get there. so either a port or a small landing strip. And you have to not only house all the fighters and their corners and their training partners and all the UFC staff, but also all the camera people. So there's a lot going on.

I really, God, I'm so curious. When are they going to tell us? Well, when I was in Jacksonville, they said in two or three weeks, and it is just about two weeks. So hopefully we get something soon. But Dana also said a lot of things about a lot of nothing. So who knows? How dare you, Jose?

Casey, we can't hear you. Oh, we can. Oh, no, we can. No, we can. No, we can't. He's just saying that because we didn't want to hear you. Now, we can't hear you. I'm just not.

He's messing with us. He is messing with us. I know he is. I can't hear you, Pete, I think you're muted. Am I? No, you're not. No. Come on.

As soon as you said that, I was like, Casey's a lie. Well play. Well played. I just like the idea that the whole coronavirus, COVID-19, was created in a ZUFA lab, just so we can get tough back on the air again. The long game. I said something I had not thought about. Mike J.B. send us the thesis on how this happened. I will love that. I would read the shit out of that.

Tough ends, coronavirus emerges, conspiracies abounds. Yeah. It's not the China flu. It's the Zuffa flu. Well, I mean, this might have helped Dana to fill his dream of owning an island. Okay. Yeah, I think, I mean, have you guys heard anywhere else it could be, or are you just hearing, yeah? Have you heard any other, like, people talking?

I've heard it could be off the coast of Florida. It could be Costa Rica. It could be somewhere off the coast of Europe. It could be off the coast of, I don't know where. I've literally no idea. I haven't heard any locations at all except for off the coast of Florida and Costa Rica. So, yeah. No, no, no.

I would love it. I would love it to be a Costa Rica. Costa Rica is a beautiful place. They get screwed over a lot by their government and the buildings, like they got that new arena that was, there's a lot of weird stories going on with that crazy, that giant stadium they built

that they basically don't even have the rights to in their own country. So I would love it if it would be in Costa Rica but it would probably be a lot of red tape to get through that too.

I don't know. I think Costa Rica is not even an island. No, but I think it would be off the coast of Costa Rica. It would be an island off the coast of

right. Although I still maintain I still maintain this is going to happen on the lighthouse. That would happen where? That would happen where? The island is actually the lighthouse island.

It's going to be that it's going to be some like sad island off the coast of Scotland where there's just rocks. And a couple of dead birds. Yeah. Imagine the amount of the freelance gigs I could be looking at if that was the case, huh? Oh. Oh. Come on.

You're up. You're a rip. You're, you're... Okay. We can pull it up. Here's our last question. It's a video question. Hold on a moment.

What's going on the inside? It's my, J.B. So I think White Island is really... No, no, no. It's a different question. He just hasn't completed it. It's coming. I was like, hang on a second.

Where's it going to go this time? Which way did he go? Can you hear me? Everyone hear me? All right, here we go. Now we're just... Nigeria's answer to Mani Pacchio, and I really believe that he could do that, you know. He is that kind of captivating.

He's that creative. He's a very handsome gentleman, too. And that's important. That's important. How do you think I got so far in this career? Laugh. Yay. Oh, look at me little hand.

Oh, that was great. I was shitting myself before. that oh my god oh wow oh my oh oh the music louis in Abu Dhabia sweat and book it there permanent album oh my son oh yes yes the buffet after yes oh no it's good look inside my luggage you just listening because i know we get a lot of listeners uh go watch kacy's montage of ptze's time at m a m a fighting uh it was a lot of fun i think that was beautiful fight week uc 246 fight week

was the most fun i've ever had covering an event in my entire life that was a lot of fun uh that warmed the cuckles of me hearts that did oh that was beautiful so many good so many good memories there my god i even forgot about some of them pictures like when we're going for food night in Melbourne, we're walking up that road looking for a grove. We got fish and chips that night, didn't we, I believe. Yeah. We did. Yes, we did.

Potatoes. Very essential. That was beautiful. Oh, man. I can't believe that. That's brilliant, man. Thanks so much, Casey. That was, that was beautiful.

Some fantastic pictures there, Esther. I love that one of us in Vegas. That was so funny when you just think about back on that, everyone queuing up to take their picture with the fabulous Las Vegas sign. I was saying off to the side of it. Amazing. Amazing. I'll never forget any of that.

He promises it. It will be this whole thing, whatever my point, it's the best moment of my career without a doubt. Never forget it. And from what I was when I came in the door to what I am now, it's massively, massively different. You know, you just gave me a brilliant platform and I really appreciate it, guys. I love you all. You know, I really love you all. So it's been nothing but a pleasure.

Oh my God. It was beautiful. I love you too, Pizzi. Oh my God, don't let me cry. It's going to, we're all going to cry after. But before we go, Pizzi, remind everyone who the most flexible man in the world is. Oh, Jesus. I hope I can do this because actually went for a run this morning.

All right, here we go. Here we go. The final time in A-side history. Can he do it? A final time. Yay. He's done it. I nearly pissed myself.

I nearly let him. You do that in jeans. Oh, my God. Look at that. Salt lamp is off. I am Jose. That is Esther. That is Casey.

I hope we're pixelated enough so you can't see us crying. That is, Mr. Sizzards. We'll not be back Friday because we have Wayans again because we have White House. But for Esther, Casey, Jose, for the final time, Pizzi, we're out. I love it. I genuinely pissed when I did that there. You're listening to the Vox Media. podcast network.