MMA Fighting - The A-Side Live Chat: Derek Brunson’s TKO over Edmen Shahbazyan, UFC Vegas 5 fallout, Derrick Lewis vs. Aleksei Oleinik, Michael Chandler vs. Benson Hendreson, more

Episode Date: August 4, 2020

For this episode, MMA Fighting’s José Youngs, Guilherme Cruz and E. Casey Leydon break down some of the top stories in MMA. Some topics Guilherme’s experience on UFC Fight Island, last weekend’s UFC Vegas 5 card, the large number of changeups to the final fight lineup, Derek Brunson’s TKO over Edmen Shahbazyan. The three will also look ahead to this weekend’s UFC Vegas 6 card, headlined by a heavyweight title between Derrick Lewis vs. Aleksei Oleinik and a middleweight fight between Chris Weidman vs. Omari Akhmedov. Also on tap, is a preview of Bellator 243, headlined by a lightweight rematch between Michael Chandler and Benson Henderson. Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow E. Casey Leydon: @ekc Follow Guilherme Cruz: @guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Hey, we're live, pal. Welcome to a special Tuesday episode of the A-side live chat. Now, I know a lot of you are wondering why we are doing this on Tuesday and not our usual Wednesday. It's because I'm still in Las Vegas for Dana White's Tuesdays, a contenders series tonight at the season premiere. So I'm driving back to Phoenix tomorrow. So we decided to bump it up a day because we didn't want to skip a week.

We didn't want to skip the honored guest this week. We've been playing this for a while. I was hoping to have him on last week after UFC Fight Island, but we decided after a month in Abu Dhabi, he needed a break. It's also a seven-year work anniversary, so it all worked out on the end. So welcome to the A-Side Live chat, the Brazilian beast himself, Guillermo Cruz. Gereme, it's been a long time, but welcome. Yes, it's a special day for me.

It's a special day for me, not because my seven-year anniversary is for me, but because I'm finally on the A-A-A-A-Side. that is the correct answer and that is the attitude I want to hear. We've been asked a lot when Guillermo was going to be on the show, especially after his time in Fight Island, all the excellent videos he did

if you can go watch stuff with David's Sierra Figurado. He had a really rough life zipping around a racetrack in like Ferraris with a UFC Octagon girl, just the worst life imaginable. But I'm sure we'll talk about all of his experiences in Fight Island.

I know it's been a week since, but last week he got his much-deserved break. We'll get into that more later Of course, I am in Las Vegas still quarantining in my hotel before the fights tonight. But Casey, how's life with you in Englewood? Oh, just up to good. I have to lots of good. Englewood, up to good.

People are still launching loud-ass fireworks at 11 at night, but, you know, Englewood. Do people do that in Brazil? You hear me just blow off, like, giant dynamite-sized fireworks at random parts of the night? Yeah. When there are a fuck-up games going on, they always do that. The only fireworks we get are the Diamondbacks, the professional baseball team, which is about two blocks from me, shoot fireworks every Sunday night when they have a game. So that is a pleasant surprise when I'm trying to sleep before Monday and then I get woken up by loud fireworks. But regardless, you guys know the drill.

This is not our podcast. This is your house podcast. You can ask any questions on Twitter, the site. Casey's made on the YouTube comments. I'm sure he'll have a few pop up. you can ask this. I'm sure most of you're going to ask about MMA. You can ask about anything you want. If you have any specific Brazilian questions,

you've always wanted to know. And I have a question for Ghee. At the end of the podcast, at the end of the stream, Casey and I, AK and Mike Heck all talked about this, but he was not, he was on vacation, I believe. So we'll ask him at the end because I want to get a

Brazilian's perspective. But without further do, Casey, what's our first question? Let's go straight to the YouTube comments. from allie in the youtube comments where does edmund shabazzian go from here he he wasn't out class in the first round arguably won it discussed hard do you think he should swap camps and which camp should he go he go i think Trevor whitman so all set the scene edmund shabazzian came up short against derrick brunson this past week and i was at it you

can go watch all of our post fight coverage uh on this youtube channel after this podcast of course or if you're listening after you listen to it go find the uh he came up short lost second on t to Derek Brunson. It was his first ever loss. Did you say second round TKO? Was it second round? No, it's, it probably should have been a second round TKO. Yeah, yeah.

I understand. It should have been a second round TKO. In my mind, it was a second round TKO. Weird, I thought I agreed with the stoppage when Herb Dean did stop it, but I think it could have been stopped a little sooner at the end of the round when he got, he was out. Derek Brunson dribbled his head. off the can is right when the bell rang.

But that's another conversation altogether. But Edmund Chabazzian first loss. He's only 22 guys. And this commenter is already saying switch camps, saying what's next? So, Guillermo, I'll start with you. What are your thoughts on Edmund Chabazzian's loss of where does he go from here? Yeah, he lost. He lost a good fighter.

That's not the end of the world. He's young. He's just starting his career. He's a good fighter. He's promising one. But just chill down, relax a little bit because he's just starting his career. There's no reason to start trying to fight who's guilty, where he should go. If he wants to switch camps, okay, fine, but it's not our role because this guy lost once,

to just say he should move to another team. It's the boxing mentality, I think, where people put so much stake into wins and losses. It's not quite the same in MMA, especially when you're 22 years old and you lose to someone like Derek Brunson, was only lost the best, the best in his fault, pretty much everyone in middleweight. But Casey, you've spent a lot of time with Edmund when you did that, what was it? What did you call it? The portrait? Yeah, portrait series.

Yeah. Portrait series. So he talked about his goals of being the youngest champion in UC history at the countdown clock. It seems like every single interview he talks about it. That's probably not going to happen now. Well, it still could happen, of course, if he riles off a few wins or gets a short notice fight.

But where does Edmund go from here after his loss of Derek Brunson? Oh, he just, well, it spends the next couple of weeks healing up. No, no, just, you know, licking his wounds and everything. He just gets back in there. The idea of him changing camps is, I think, kind of ridiculous right now. I mean, seriously, what? Eight fighters lost on that fight on that card, but yet we don't get, you know, eight questions. Hey, should this fire change?

Everyone that loses needs to change a camp. No, that's ridiculous. Now, his next fight, though, I'm assuming he's going to take a big jump back in competition where he'll probably be the much higher-ranked fighter. Let's see how he comes back from that. I think that's going to be the big question, how he comes back from that. So right now there's just, no, I mean, no, he's 22,

and he was fighting. Well, it wasn't supposed to be a main event, but it was the main event. It was the main event of a fight night card, and he got a top 10 opponent, and he lost. And that's, like, I think we said it right. Like, that's okay. We lose.

You know, LeBron James Airball's, once in a while, it's okay. You know, just... Quiet at your tongue. Yeah. So, no, that's just people... I think it's really more in it. People are just more kind of attacking the coaching of it just because of it's the previous

history of it, but... That's what I was going to ask, Guillermo. Would we be having this conversation about switching camps if it was anyone other than Edmund Tarverdi in Edmond Shabazian's Corner? Yeah, 100%. If he was training at ATT, aka King's MMA, any other team, no one would... would be asking if you should train sweet gyms. That's the only reason why, okay, he's a hot prospect.

There was a lot of hype around him, but it's the fact that who is his coach. And he, maybe fans don't like him since the Ronda Rousey day. So they're going to, of course, they're going to attack that. Let's also not forget that all the footage that even Casey had, like when he put it in that portrait shot, he was like getting tossed around by Ronda when he was like 14, 13. So this is a coach he's had pretty much his entire life. He's not going to leave his coach after one loss after spending almost his entire adult life with this thing. He's not even a full, like he's just becoming an adult now and we're seeing the growing pains in the Octagon right now.

But even in this question, I mean, he had a great first round. I mean, he did. He had a great first round. He arguably won that first round. If he scored it for him, yeah, that's perfectly justifiable. So, I mean, he didn't come. And the idea that he gassed or something like that. I really don't think he gassed.

I think it's the fact that he went up against the best opponent he's ever gone in there against. And he's faced the most adversity he's ever gone up against. And you know what? That makes you tired. Like I can run a mile pretty fast, but punch me in the face five times really hard. And then make me run a mile. You go, dude, where's your cardio case? He's like, well, I got my face bashed in.

So I can't really breathe through my nose right now, guy. And I have a concussion. Well, even Derek Brunton himself said it. Like in the NBA of the NFL, his words, where if you're good enough, you play. And he said that Edmund Chabazin earns this fight, and he deserved it. Now he's here. And like you said, it's all about where they go from here.

But really quick, if you're Edmonds coach, who do you want him to fight next? Guillaume. That's a good question. I don't have any. I don't think he should get anyone near the top 10 or top of the team. Just build him back. Give him a winnable fight. Casey?

someone outside the top the unofficial 25 one of those names I'll probably have a hard time thinking of but if you go if you mentioned them I'm like oh yeah him like who did who did Marva Venturi?

I think he I think you should fight Marvin Tore or Ian Heinish. Actually I think that's two I would actually I would like to him go even farther back in the line honestly. I don't know man because he's he's sparked Brad Tavares

so I think he's past the part past the point of fighting outside the top 25. I think he's easily a top 15 middleweight. I agree. I think Vittorian Hinesh are very winnable fights, and they're in the top 15. I think a win over one of those. Ian Hinesh coming off a knockout win, Marvin Vintori's coming off his finish, his finish win.

Vittory's been itching for a fight. I like those two fights, but let's let our comments decide. Yeah. Yeah, I'll send him even farther back. Like, whoever... Like Brandon Allen? Yeah, around that area. Yeah, around that area.

What about the loser of Wyatman and Omari? Wyatman, if he loses, it would be like one in six of last seven fights. No, if Wyman loses, definitely not Wyman. That's just cruel. Yeah. Why do you say his opponent's thing? I know Amari. How do you say his last?

Al-Aquinoff, I think is-Akman-Ov. Maybe if Acman-Ov loses, but I mean, I don't have to pull up the UFC roster right now, but I'm sure I can name, once I see the list, probably 10 middleweights that we haven't seen in a lot. a while that could get in there with Edmund. What's the difference between Darren Till, who's now one in one in middleweight and Edmund Shabazzian? How come we can't, how come we're trying to send Edmund back to the outside of the top 25? But now we're talking about Darren Till possibly fighting like Jack Hermanson. Because Darren Till. I'm just playing devil. I understand. That's a good question. But because there, because all losses aren't created equal. Robert Whitaker didn't, didn't send

Darren Till to the hospital. Darren Till, that fight was up for. grabs to the last minute of that fight. And arguably, Dary and Till, a lot of people thought Daryntill even won that fight. And I don't agree with it, but I understand their point of view. But so I think their losses aren't equal losses. But do you think that style-wise? Because Till's not going to go out there and just run at you. Like, Derek Brunson is a bulldozer.

Yeah, he is. And if Edmund Chabazzin fights Dary and Till for five rounds, I don't know if either one gets finished. I think that fight could be very similar to the fight where it's a lot of fainting and, like, siking each other out. I think you fight Derek Brunson. You got to be ready for like a bull running at you. I agree. And I just, I think, I think till Shabazzian, we're going to, we have plenty of time for that one, I think. Oh, no, yeah, yeah. I'm not trying to book that fight. I'm just trying to see what the difference. This one's the, uh, Mike Heck MMA, but from the site, uh, says,

Edmund versus Eric Anders. I like that fight or, uh, Christoph Jacques, I think would be a fun fight, too. There's a lot of, there's a million good fights. I wish David Branson didn't cut. I thought that would have been a fun fight. But yeah, I like Derek Anders, if Eric Anders wants to fight a middle-way or if he wants to go up to light heavy way. Yeah. The Eric Anders area of the rankings, I think that's a good one. All right. Oh, here we go. I like this one.

From Lucas Baca, Ken Brunson, now with the new camp, make a realistic run at the title. So, Guillermo, we've been talking a lot about Edmund losing, but there was a winner after all. Derek Brunson got the W. Oh, can he make a realistic run out the title with this new camp? Yeah, 100%. There was a great performance. He had a few great performance over the past few years.

The past few years, actually. So, yeah, he's looking solid. Of course, he needs a couple more big wins. But, yeah, I think he's ready to make that jump, you know, to get a top 10 and then a top 5 to finally get. Middle-aid division is a bit weird. If you get like two great wins, you're up there. But there are not a lot of names right now, but yeah, if he get the right matchups,

he can definitely get it. I'm not sure if I see him beating a top five right now, but yeah, he can definitely get there. I think the Derek Brunson we saw on Saturday that was not running out there with his chin wide up in the air is a dangerous dangerous fighter. He hits hard and he has great wrestling. He has phenomenal wrestling that he rarely uses. And when he got on top of Edmundsia, that was a rap. He was using his head as a basketball. I think he could beat guys like Till.

I think he could, I think he could have beaten Robert Whitaker if his chin wasn't just out in the air acting a fool down in Australia. So I don't know who you should fight next. about Casey, do you think you can make it run to the title? Yeah, I kind of mentioned this on our post show. I hope Derek doesn't hear this. But I don't, I never, I can't see Derek actually winning a title. I actually seem losing probably badly to Izzy again.

If Izzy still has the title. But remember, like in his fights against Romero, if you go back and rewatch that fight against Romero, it's like three minutes away from winning. Yeah, he was doing great. Then he got hitting the balls. nutshot and then and then everything kind of changed and then obviously it went downhill real fast and then rob that that that blast double-leg takedown he got on romero was a thing of beauty

when romero was like oh i'm going down you didn't know what was going on you know that derrick brunson he has that kind of um uh case of corey anderson in the sense that you knew corey anderson was good but the problem when corey anderson loses he loses big and you just remember those losses and that's the problem with derrick brunson um his loss were high profile losses and he lost big. And unfortunately, his other high profile fight that he got, he got a bad decision with Anderson Silva. So. And then he got sparked by Jacqueray.

And I think it was North Carolina. Yeah. I think it was the main event. And he just, when he walked to the octagon, I knew like he doesn't, I don't even think he wants to be there. That's when he just walked across the octagon, I got punched in the head real hard. Yeah.

And that's when he's when, when Derek Brunson loses, he loses bad. And he looks bad, too. It's not like it's a firefighting. Oh, someone had to lose. I guess that'd be that guy. But like, like, dang. Yeah, it just, he loses bad. So hopefully this gets him, people start rethinking who Derek Brunson is.

And because he's a, he's an excellent fighter. And I want to see him. I want to see him in a level of fights, you know. But, um. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go on. Ask him.

Well, Guillem I was saying middleweight's a little weird. And I agree. But it also happens to be one of the few divisions that's moving. We have a title fight. We got Whitaker Canaan there, which I think is an excellent number one contenders matchup. Darren Till's blue is in the out, so he's going to be out for a while. But this division is actually moving along, which seems odd in the year 2020. So Guillermo, if you could book him, who's he fighting, and why is it Jack or Manson?

Yeah. That's the only fight I see for him right now. If Darren's still can't fight anytime soon, I think that's a fight to make. 100%. Bacy, are you in agreement? Yeah, that sounds great. I agree. JT. MMA says the Golden Boy versus your boy, which is Edmichabas versus Eric Anders.

Former NCAA national football champion, Eric Anders. I can't find the comment, but basically someone asked, did Derek Brunson get robbed of a knockout of a night bonus? And he absolutely did. I think if it ended in that second round, he would have got. Got it. I guess, man. Yeah, I just, I just think the UFC. Who you even won?

Who are the bonus winners? Jennifer Maya. Myna. My dad was very much. Friday night went to Lando Green. And then the other performance award went to, who did he go to?

I don't even remember. Oh, exactly. The point being, it should have gone to Brunson. He was such a... He was such a... He was such a little. Oh, Luke Gate.

Oh, man. I think Lucas was way more violent, though. But it's not about... Not by just violence. Right, right. I get it. I get it. But the way that Lucay had him in the clinch and then lifted his off the canvas so it's legal.

And then the sound of his knee on a skull was the most memorable moment of that entire fight card for me. Just the sound of it. So I think Brunz, I think like the week before, didn't they did in Fight Island, didn't they give like six bonuses on one car? Basically, if you made weight and got a finish, you got a bonus. I think Luca and Brunson deserved it. I think that's one in one B. I don't want to take Lucke's way to give to Brunton. I don't want to take it to Brunson seriously because Brunson was a heavy, heavy underdog.

Not betting wise and just straight up, just pick him fights as far as these people who picked, not going against the bets. So I definitely think Brunson got screwed over, but he made someone angry backstage. Vicente Luca got the bonus for acting as a translator in the back probably. Good for him, then. He deserves it. Gilbert Burns was Jennifer May's translator, the Post-Fice interview. from Kiwi MMA

Kiwi underscore MMA NZ Mark is his name on Twitter Can we have Lucay versus RDA main event somewhere If not, who do we give Lucay? Neil on Neal hashtag the A side

So Guillermo I'm sure you watch But Vicente Lucay picks up another Very violent win So that's two in a row We beat Nico Price And now we beat Randy Brown

His only recent loss Has been to Stephen Thompson Before that I think he lost It wasn't Michael Graves Like the ultimate Fighter finale When it was like

Black Zillions ATT So that was a long time ago, a completely different fighter. So if you are booking your fellow Brazilian, do you want to see a Brazilian versus a Brazilian? Do you want to give Vicente-Luke someone else? I still want to see RGA against Santiago Posenibu. I think that's a lot of heat there. I think they should fight each other. So if Ponsoliniu can't take the fight, he tells me he wants to fight as soon as possible.

so that that will be an option. But if not, okay, that's a great one. I don't mind seeing Brazines against Brazil, a lot of people in Brazil don't like him watching that, just like the Rodolf Vietta, Marcus Perez, fight that just got booked. People who hate that. But I don't mind.

In the New York, C, they're going to fight eventually. So they'll just have them fight. That's a fantastic matchup. That is an awesome matchup. But I'm going to get back to that in a second, but Casey, who do you want to see Vicentee Lucke find next?

Where's the is he top 15? Is he top 10? Yes. He's top 10. He's top 10. He's top 10. He called out Nate Diaz

who sits right below him. He's not going to get Nate Diaz. Randy Brown was unranked. Vicente Leuke was previously booked against him before he was scrapped. So he said, I don't care about rankings. We signed a contract before.

I'm just going to get ready to run it back. So all respect to him. I like this, this matchup Neil on Neil and I really want to I think Jeff Neal wins that and I really want to see Jeff Neil versus Vicente Lucke really badly Yeah as far as Lucke Since the way I see it as far as matchmaking

If Lucke did the UFC a favor and fought someone behind them Which was Rainy Brown I think you return the favor and now he gets to fight someone ahead of him So whoever's ahead of him Lukai has earned that and honestly Luke is a type of fighter you can put it you can put anyone in there I don't care I just want to see if Vincenti Lukie fight. So, uh, I didn't get a bad.

This is a good one too. I think he just had surgery. So I think he's out of it. No. Jeff, uh, Vicente Lucke in the post fight interview said that he just wants to fight. He like rankings regardless. He wants to fight guys that will bring the fight. He wants violence.

Like he wants violence. Like obviously he wants fight for the title. But he wants these violent fights. I think the, I think Jeff Neal beats Neil madden. I think Jeff Neal is a bad, bad dude. I think that guy has dynamite in his hands. And I think Neil Lucke is an unbelievable fight night main event.

And that has that someone's going to bed in that fight. Someone's getting a bonus in that fight. You know, I like that Neil and Neil violence. Because I want to, I know, we all know Jeff Neal is a very dangerous fighter. But to beat Magni, usually you're going to go, you're going to have to go into deep waters. And that's where I want to see Jeff Neill. Because I think that's where we really see how great a fighter can be. Like we've seen Edmund Shabazzian look awesome, but when he went to deep waters, obviously there was some issues came up.

Like that's like Ponziubios went over Magnum. Yeah. That was a huge win because he cleaned, he cleaned his clock in the first round and then still fought like what? A handful around. So I love that. Yeah, you're not wrong. Yeah. But I have a question unrelated to this that Guillermo said, that Brazilians don't like Brazilians fighting Brazilians.

What if it's in Brazil? Is that weird? Like if a Brazilian fights a Brazilian in Brazil? Yeah. They don't like because they feel like it's almost like the UFC is trying to slow someone down, you know? Right. To bring someone down and, you know, for someone to win. So they, that's why the UFC rarely comes to Brazil and books,

Brazilians against Brazilians. Because Dana-Wa once heard that Brazilians like to see Brazilians wins. So they always book Brazilians against people from the U.S. and Europe. So that's why you rarely see Brazilian against Brazil. So did Aldo fight Moikano in Brazil? Yeah, in Fortaleza. And also had Marlon Morais and Hapasson San in the main event. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I mean, but Joselle is a former champion. He's a star here in Brazil. And Moikano is not. Mekano is not a big name yet here. So it was weird when they booked Jacaree against Vito Belfort. That was going to be my next. That wasn't weird, yeah.

Because Jackarer was getting to the top of the UFC and Vito Belfort is such a legend. So that one was a bit weird for the fans. And it was weird to see fans rooting for Jackaray against Vito Belfort. That was weird. I didn't expect it. So what about Josealdo and Marlon back in December? that was in the States right that was still in the States

it still seemed like I asked Jose I'm like he's like I don't care I'll fight whoever like he's gonna say that but I know Anderson said he didn't like fight Brazilians right yeah

Anderson would be weird yeah yeah well I'm gonna get me can ask a quick question Jeremy um does it matter

where the Brazil where the Brazilian fighter trains say like Marlin who does all this training in the US now or even Anderson or say Amanda Nunes, she does Alder training in the U.S.

Does it change anything as far as like, you know, like you say, Aldo, who does auto's training in Brazil, he stayed home. I don't know. Even Connor said that. He's like, he never learned English, and I respect that. That was a very weird thing to say. But, like, he's like, I respect that he didn't learn the enemy's language. Yeah, it matters if the fight is in Brazil.

Like, if Josie Aldo is fighting someone in Rio, he's going to have the crowd in his favorite because he lives in Rio, he's all over the place here. So, uh, but I don't know, it depends on how the, the, the father acts on social media and all that about Brazil. Let's say Amanda Nunes, she still isn't a big deal in Brazil. She's a double champion, but she doesn't seem, seem to care that much to, to build that relationship with Brazil. She lives in the U.S. for a long time now, all power to her.

She has done a tremendous job for her. on her career and other thing, but she doesn't seem to care about becoming a big deal in Brazil. And I respect that. She doesn't mind. Okay, sure. But when she comes to Brazil, she's not getting the Josealdo treatment from the fans when she fights in Rio, you know. So when you're watching her social media and you see her supporting the U.S. national soccer team, is that? Yeah.

Yeah. Not for me, but for the fans, yeah, 100%. Yeah. When she went, I think she went to a media day with the U.S. Jersey. Yeah. Oh, it's dead morning. Okay. All right.

So I'm going to, I was going to say this for the end. But now that we're talking about Brazilian fighters, Casey, we've talked about this on a, on a, I think it was after. I can't remember. Oh, it was after the Little Knock, uh, show gun fight. So I'll ask Jeremy. In America, we say, who is the Mount Rushmore of so and so, which means we have to pick the four best of something that represent your thing. Who is your Mount Rushmore of Brazilian MMA fighters? So you could base that off skill, greatness, legacy, or whatever.

I think the top two are locked. I think Hoys Gracie and Anderson Silver are locks. And then after that, I don't know. Yeah. I would say Big Nog and Vanderi Silva. Vandrelei? See, that's the one that when I bring up Vandrelai or Shogun, people have to sit there and think.

Because people want to add Josealdo. they want to add big nod like that. Jose, how can we leave him out of the month mushroom? What about Chris Cyborg? Why can't the Brazilian want to have five or six faces? Come on, man. Yeah, we can have a lot of faces. We have a lot of mountains here.

We're all big. That's true. What about someone like Cyborg? Yeah. So, that's a tough one. That's a tough one. The Cyborg, Nunes, Jose, Van der Le, it's real tough.

We need a lot of mouthwash on us here. here. If there was like a fan expo, who would have more lines get, who would have more fans to get her autographed? Amanda Nunes or Chris Cyborg? In Brazil. In Brazil. I think it's Cyborg.

Cyborg? Yeah. I felt that way when I was down there. I felt Cyborg just had a much bigger connection to the Brazilian fans. But you were at the UFC Quiritschiva, right? Yes. Yeah, so it's her hometown. There's a mirror. There was that mural. Remember that?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Remember when we used to travel to shows and we could see each other? And every once in a while we would shake each other's hands and maybe even hug each other. Before this pandemic, we were talking about like who wants to go? Was Joseo Zahado, Suhudo was supposed to be in South Paulo, right? I was like talking to, I was like, I'll go. I want to go to that fight. I want to go to Brazil. It's going to be me and Guillermo down there, maybe.

But then the pandemic happened. Do you think Davidson, Figurado, could be the next big thing in Brazil? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. He's a smart guy. He fights phenomenal. He's entertaining. And he knows how to play the game, you know, how to promote himself.

So, yeah, if he continues to do a good job on that, on that side as well, I think he can become a big deal. He has an incredible life story. He does. I was going to bring that up. Your interview with him was phenomenal when he was talking about like being a chef, being a mason, being a security guard. Like that's, I want to see him bring his hair dresser.

Yeah. Yeah. I want to see him go bring his belts and do all of those things. So he's an interesting cat. Yeah. I think he has the potential to be that. I mean, he's 19 and 1. Yeah.

It's incredible. I think the only knock on him is he just, everyone loves Joseph Benavides. So no matter who beats him, you're going to be the bad guy. Like if he had gone out there. The fight, I mean, the performance he had was, was unbelievable. It was a perfect game. It was like a perfect game. He just happened to do it against one of the most beloved fighters.

If you do that to anyone else, they would be called you to be in the top five pound for pound or something like that. But if you do that to Benavita, it's like, oh, man. Yeah, he got to look like an asshole. He needs to do that. I know. And also, like, because he's not, what was he knocked up Benavitas down three times. So it's like he knocks him down and then he gets up. And he looks like he was bullying him.

Like, if he goes out there and, like, say this room where Cody Garbrandt fight happens and he does that to Cody Garbrandt, that's going to be a huge deal. Because I think Cody is like, he has a million Instagram followers. And he's like one in three in his last four fights with three knockouts. And he's still one of the most popular fighters. in the world. So if he does that to Cody, watch out. But anyway, we've been talking a lot about this case. If we have any more questions, I think we've only answered two or three. Yeah. I just, I just, I want to see, I just, I want to see the UFC do a video of him, with an interview of Megan Olivi and, but, but, but, it's like, doing her hair.

It's like, I was just you, I was just you hear me, but it could be a short interview, but just like, oh, you're good. I'll go down. I got the best stare on NBA fighting. This is true. You can do my hair. All right. I take, I take that back. Best hair in MMA media. Hold on. I may get this last one. This is a good question? Question for the panel.

Did the UFC handle the Eric Spicely situation correctly? So, for those of you who aren't aware, Eric Spicely was released this past weekend. He did not weigh in weight cut weight management issues heading into the fight. So he didn't even hit the scale. His scheduled fight against, who was he supposed to fight? I can't even put it. Marcus Press. Marcus.

Marcus. That's right. That's right. So that fight fell through. Eric Spice, he was later released. But before he was released, he put it out on social media that full disclosure. This was his first fight he took while on antidepressants, which he said he was suffering from concussions and sunlight hurt his eyes and this and that following his Duran win fight,

which was his first fight back in the UFC. I think that was on the Raleigh car, the North Carolina car, if I can't remember correctly, a little more than a year ago. So he was later released. A lot of people took issue with that. Eric Spicely took issue with that. You can go read our interview. We did Stephen Morocco on our site,

where he spoke to Spicely at length about this topic. But, Gareemate to answer the question, did the UFC handle the Eric Spicely situation correctly? They handled it poorly. It was. I mean, you have to imagine that the UFC knew about all these issues he was going through. And to cut him like that, it's, I would like to say it's surprising, but it's sad.

But it's not surprising. No, it's not. But then you see a fighter like, and I don't know the full details. Ray Borg also fell out and he's pulled. He's pulled out of many and many fights. Week of fights, Dea, Fides, Day of Wains. And for all we know, he still has a job. But that is another story.

I want both of these men to have their job. People, I'm just people on social media say, how come this guy gets to keep his job? But this guy can't keep his job regardless. But Casey, what are your thoughts? Oh, yeah, they handled this horribly. I mean, actually, they even handle this. What did the UFC do other than just go, he couldn't fight and then they just released them?

Has you even said anything publicly other than like, yeah, so, so you see, yeah, this is, this is a bad situation. And, I mean, realistically, it's not that he didn't make weight. He was actually injured. He's like, he actually has a brain injury, a mental illness, depression. and it should be treated that way. He didn't, not as, oh, he, he didn't know, he had too many, he had too much Tarramisu, that's why we cut him. No, no, he, he's still suffering an injury from a fight from a loss a year ago.

And this is important too. And I kind of say it's over and over a lot with, like, especially like head trauma. And his loss to win, he wasn't knocked out cold. He wasn't beating up. It was just, if you remember the fight, it was just, it was a fight. And he lost a decision. They fought in a phone booth for 15. minutes. Yeah, but you watch

those, because we get, we see these big knockouts and we think, oh, that's the issue. That's the thing. It's actually these long fights, these 15-minute fights where they get hit a lot in the head. That's where you get the really bad head trauma. That's why the guys you spar too much, because you don't get knocked out in sparring, you just get hit in the head a lot.

So, um, I wish the UFC treated this as an injury rather than a guy that just didn't know, like I said, had too much dessert and couldn't make weight. So um, this isn't good. And, um, Maybe we don't know all the details, but details we do know, not good.

Yeah. No. And we've seen fighters like T.J. Grant and who is the Chris Holdsworth, who got concussions, they've never fought again. So I know Eric, Eric Spicely is a little bit of a Renaissance man. He is low-key. For any of you don't know, he is a phenomenal skateboarder. You can go find all of his old, like, hype videos. He also does professional wrestling.

So, he has other avenues. of income, but if he wants, he said he loves fighting. And if he is suffering from brain trauma, the UFC handled this poorly. And full disclosure, people in Rhode Island, where I'm from, are a little upset because he was one of the few fighters that represented our state. Actually, he's the only UFC fighter that represented our state. So we are now one less fighter down. And I know a lot of people in my state look up to him in the jujitsu world as a mentor.

So a little bit of a bummer all around in the situation. Yeah. Esther Lynn from the site, Cody actually has 2.3 million followers on Instagram. So my mistake, I was 1.3 million off on his Instagram following. So close. Wow. I undersold. I was like, yeah, he has like a million.

That's a lot. I was such an undersold his follow by him more than a million. That's unreal. It's unreal. I want to go real quickly. I want to answer this real quickly. Then we'll go to a bunch of comments we got earlier. Hold on.

Just because I haven't heard his name in a while. Right. Will Dubranks get a title shot? And I'm not even going to try and pronounce this YouTube commenter's name. I apologize. So I don't think so, but Guillermo, what do you do with Charles Dubranks-Olivera next? Right now, it's not getting a title shot, but one day, who knows? I really don't know what the UFC has in plans for him.

I came back from a short vacation yesterday, so I just sent text to a ton of people trying to trying to get updates, get some news. And I texted Charles Alivea yesterday. He said that the UFC was trying to give him a fight on Fight Islands last month. But someone that they after five wasn't waiting to take it, he wouldn't say who. So he's still waiting. He doesn't know where he's fighting.

So who knows, man? I really don't know what the UFC is going to do with him. He's on a row. He's on a, I think he won seven in a row now. So he deserves Most submissions in UFC history. Seven are all to seven finishes. It's insane.

He deserves someone in the top, but is he getting? I don't know. He honestly, he deserves someone in the top five. Absolutely. The problem is the top five has so many people that are looking for like these

like, so Habib is going to fight Justin Gaci. And then you got Connor who's supposed retired. Tony Ferguson wants to fight and Dusty Porre wants to fight. I think that's the top five right there. I think Corre and Ferguson should fight. Conner's retired. He's out of the equation and the top two fighters

are right there for a title shot. So, I don't know who you match him up with. Paul Felder is supposedly retired, but they already fought if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, fight again, whatever. Yeah. Who do you give him? Dan Hooker? Like Dan Hooker, that would be a fun fight.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I just I think Dubrons is actually he's a low-key UFC Hall of Famer. We just don't know it yet. How old is he? He's like 20... It's 25 or something. That's what I mean. Like he's at like almost

I don't know how many fights, almost over like 15 fights in the UFC and he's only like 25, 26. It's insane. And he's like in his prime. He has the most submission wins in the history of the UFC and I think he's like on the short list for most stoppage wins in general.

That's what I mean. This guy's a the Famer. Like, it's just, yeah. He's like the Brazilian Dona Dona's run, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'll fight whoever. Like, he fought Jared Gordon and then he fought. Yeah. He fights in the first round in San Paul. He fights like Jim Miller in Milwaukee. And then he fights, he like has a random rubber match with Nick Lentz. And then he fights Jared Gordon. And now he's like, all right, who do you want me to fight now? Like, I'm looking at the rankings right here. The top. Five, he's not getting anyone in the top five. Dan Hooker is right above him. Felders below him retired. Diego Frehead is sitting right there. Like, all watch and fight, I don't know. Machachev, Gillespie, Derrush, Dover, like that's the rest of the rankings, right?

Kevin Lee, like they already just fought. Like, I don't know. Felders seems good to me. I mean, not Felder. Hooker seems good to me. When I spoke with this coach, I would say. two months ago, something like that. And I was trying to understand what they want the next for him. And he mentioned that he won a main event. He went to headlining Carn after this big win of Kevin Lee. But there wasn't a lot of options available for him.

So he mentioned that he was interesting and maybe Marachad. Oh, my God. But that was like two months ago. Yeah. So I had a lot of that right now. I want that fight. That's the fight I want. I think that fight is all.

I think because Mokachev has fought in good guys, but he hasn't fought the elite yet. And, man, make that fight. I don't care about the hooker fight anymore. Malkinchev versus Charles Oliang. That's the fight I want. Yeah, he's just the most under, I think he's the most underrated,

definitely almost underrated, as far as with the fans, lightweight out there. But also, I want to blame the UFC a little bit on this. I mean, we work in MMA, and I've seen Charles Oliver fight probably 15 times live and yet i know zero about him i honestly know other than he wears glasses i mean that's all i mean that's all i think i don't know anything about him that and that and i think that really hurts him as far as like a push to get him anything if you think the fact do you think

the fact that he doesn't speak english plays a factor oh and learn the enemy's language what are you talking about all right i know the answer it's i know the answer is yes but i just want to hear you say Because if you can't connect with a fighter, you're like, you can appreciate him. Like you yourself said, he's a Hall of Famer. He's a low-key Hall of Famer. You just don't know anything about him because you can't connect with him. You can't communicate with him. Which is not a problem because if he doesn't want to learn English, he doesn't want to learn English.

But I think that 100% that's the answer right there. Unless you're Jose Aldo, who just happens to be the greatest featherweight who ever lived and puts on spectacular performances. is like if Charles Oliver becomes champion, like Figuero, and then he keeps rattling off wins, then he'll be a big deal. But he has to get there first. All right. Next question. Do we ever answer this?

I can go to this one. Another one from Kiwi underscore MMAAZ, Mark on Twitter. With the recent losses for Macy, Barbara, Edmund Shabazzian, Johnny Walker, and Hernandez, is the time we slow the role up for up-and-coming prospects such as Hazmat. Jerry and O'Malley and let them build their way up slowly with less media. No. No, definitely not. I don't even think these guys were like all of these guys that got these that are quote

unquote getting shot up the rankings are winning violently over really high level opponents like Macy Barber was undefeated. Got a bunch of wins that fly away. Stoppage wins, which everyone talks about. like the women's women's don't get stopped women divisions don't get stoppage Macy Barber was getting stoppage wins and she was like, hate her or love her lover. She was trying to be that villain that the flyaway division quote unquote needed.

Everyone goes, oh, you need characters. We had Hurricane Helms on the show and he was like, there's no characters in the man anymore. No one wants to talk. Macy Barber and Roxanne Montefari, I've said this before, had more numbers outside of the main event between Connor McGregor back in Connor McGregor and Cowboy. Those two dominated the YouTube numbers.

So I think she deserved that. fight. Derek Brunson himself said Edmund Schabazen deserve that fight. Johnny Walker was coming what off like three sub-minute knockouts before he lost. Over over tough dudes too. And then Alexander Hernandez's first ever win in the UFC was a first knockout over B'Neill-Dar-U. So it's not like he doesn't, they don't deserve these fights. Of all those names from the first part of this question, I think Alex Hernandez was the only one that got pushed too fast because he Alex Hernandez was a late notice replacement and honestly I think if Darius and Rammash I would ran it back I would I would definitely pick Darius I just think

Darius just didn't know who was in front of him and you know those I would say the same thing about Johnny Walker though because I mean if Johnny Walker runs it back with Sarkanoff I think that's not going to be a like a first round flying knee knockout again yeah yeah but I but I still think Johnny Walker is a very sorry very competitive very good fight All of these guys are. Like, Hasma, was it, Hasmat? I think he's not fought on a legit Welterweight yet at Welterweight. I think all of the, I get, I know what you're going to say case.

We've talked about this a million times. I think Jericho and O'Malley, I don't think Jerry Pajas is even a prospect. He's not a prospect. He has like 30-something fights. I think if he wants to face anyone in the top five's got to put his hands up, can't do that against like, like, like, can't fight like he fought against Vulcan, against Dominic Reyes. O'Malley is getting built up.

And Hazmet does have his next fight. But Guillermo, your thoughts? I disagree. I agree with what you said. 100%. They deserve that. They got the wins. It wasn't like they got in the UFC in the first fight was against the top five.

No, they all had great wins until they lost. It's part of the game. That happens. Yeah. I think people just, like, I think they got into the UFC at a very young age, especially Macy and Edmund, and they both wanted to be the first youngest champion ever,

and they looked spectacular. And then once you lose, they're not even 30 yet, and people are like, got to change camps, they're not good, but that's just MMA. When Anderson Silva lost to Chris Wyman,

they were like, was Anderson Silver really a good fight? I'm like, yeah, he's greatest fighter ever. But MMA is a very, like, we had this conversation with Felice,

about Felicia Spencer, like, oh, did we stunt the growth of Felicia Spencer? Who did she lose to? Amanda Nunes and Chris Cyborg are her only losses. The greatest fighters of the history of women's M.A. are her only losses. And you think we stunted her growth? I think Hazmat is the only one I still have questions over.

I think Jerry is legit and O'Malley is legit. I just want to say Asmat, Shemaya, fight a actual welterweight. I don't have a problem with him fighting anyone in the top 15 whatsoever. I would like to see him fight a high level fighter though. Yeah, all this talks about him fighting Uzma right there. Come on, man. Yeah, slow down. Slow down.

Come on. Like, give him, like, he's a UFC fighter for 10 days. Just, yeah, a little bit. Yeah, like, don't, like, if they want to give him 50, like, if they want to match him against Donald Soroni, it's going to go one or two ways. We're either going to get the Derrentil treatment or the Leon Edwards treatment or we're going to get the Alexander Hernandez treatment. And Donald Seroni has been in that position where you give him Leon Edward to Darren Till.

Darren Till sparked him. Leon Edwards cooked him up for 25 minutes. and then he just beat the soul out of Alexander Hernandez in Brooklyn. So we're going to get one of those two. I like the Soroni fight. If that fight does happen, I know Seroni will, Soroni will fight anyone. But I would like to see Hazeman fight on an actual Walterweight in the top 15 before. I throw my name in the hat for his contendership.

All right. Sarah Kaufman. What is the best flavor of Otterpop? So former A-side co-host, Sarah Kaufman. I believe this is directed at E. Casey Lodagh. and what is the best flavor of otter pop? Oh, let me see. Well, okay, for we mind, and why is it blue?

So here we got on the screen here, we have all the flavors. Oh, Guillermo, do you know otter pop? I have no idea what that is. Did you see that? Did you see the advertisement? What, you were in Obadiab, you didn't have an otter pop? Yeah, no, no. I saw that on the, on the cage, but I had no way to what that is. So they are a frozen popsicle that comes in packs of a million.

So you have to buy a minimum of a million. a minimum of a million in a box. If you can get through the plastic wrapping without cutting your mouth open, you're going to have a delicious time ahead of you. I think the blue flavor is the best, though. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Louis Blue Raspberry, without it out, is the best. You got to go to Louie Blue.

Casey, some people are only listening to this. Tell them what's on the screen. So I'm going to go through all the flavors for our podcast listeners. We have Sir Isaac Lime, Strawberry, Short Cooke, Louis Blue Raspberry. Little Orphan Orange, Georgia O'Peach, Horatio Pineapple, Alexander the Grape, get it? That's a bank. Great name. There's a chocolate one.

Oh, disgusting. Carl Gusta Fudge? Okay, there's a fudge. Okay, I don't know. No, that's not fudge. Willie, watermelon, cherry quavara. That one is so funny. And then Tangerine Otter.

Is that more of a pupsicle or more of a, an. ice cream it's a pops. They're all popsicles. They're all, yeah, I'm not sure how you have fudge popsicles, but let's see. Anyway,

the answer is blue. Yeah, and I will not take, I will not take any slander against Louis Blue Raspberry. Gwee? What are you picking? I have no idea.

Come on, man. I would go with the, I like Xander do a great because that's a great name. It's a grape name. It's a great name. It's a great way. All right, Sarah Kaufen I hope he answered your question.

What a weirdo question. Jeez. We get the weirdest fans. Geez. Go home, loser. We love Sarah Koff. From 916, Sam Harris

on Twitter, what do you think will happen to the winner of Lewis Olinic and who do you think will win the fight? Guillermo, where there's a big fight between Derek Lewis and Alexi Olinic, heavyweight,

till main event, now this upcoming Saturday who wins and what where do they go from there I think I think I'm going with Oli Ani in this fight really

yeah against Verdun I watching live I haven't we watched it that fight I think Verdun won but it was close it was I'm fine with the Olegi winning

but it's it's five rounds and I don't I'm not sure how Derek Lewis is going to do it in five rounds. If he goes five rounds, you know, that's one of those fights if Derek Lewis catches him early. It's over. Like he had in, I think it was a Curtis-Bade fight.

And he got knocked out in seconds. But, yeah. I think he's doing that way. You have no faith in exhausted 24 minutes into a fight, Derek Lewis power? Yeah. You know, I don't care who wins this. I just hope it goes five rounds. I hope it goes at least four rounds.

And I hope all the real action doesn't start to. They're completely gassed in that fifth round in that little tiny baby crib of a cage, which they're going to look like just two, just two little kids in a small cage is going at it exhausted. I just can't wait. Derek Lewis has made it out of three rounds twice. He's one and one. Like he got sparked by was it Mark Hunt And then who did he be

I think it was that Yeah he was very yeah he was a yeah he was a yeah he had that back injury And then he'd be a Shemeel and I'm not I can't remember his How to pronounce his last thing he'd be him in the fourth round in Albany So he's gone through five he's gone to four rounds for and he's one and one Can he make it two and one you don't know I'm picking Derek Lewis and I want him to fight Curtis plays after that All right

So so good you think you think you think you think you think a leninic is going to get the submission or is he going to just kind of, I don't know, go a decision. It's a small cage, right? Yep, it is a small cage. Yeah, but I think it's being in a small cage, it favors him to get the fight to the fight to the ground. I agree. Against a cage, they'll take him down.

And five rounds is a lot of time. It is a ground. So you start every round standing up, bro. Alexio Lennox, I think, came in at like 225 pounds against Verdume. And Derek Lewis, like, cuts down it. He might have a 40-pound difference in there. That's a healthy 40 pounds. Yeah, that's like kicking a bag of soup over and over and over.

And as far as what's the last for him, I think if Olinx means, I would match him up against Sakai if he meets Overeign. Yeah, I like those two. I like all those matchups. Yeah, I think the winner of Sakai, Overeign, that makes sense. Yeah, I like it. Well, because he already lost, he already lost over him, right?

I think so, yeah. It is. If Sakai wins, I would do that five. Because that wouldn't. Or maybe they'll be a rematch, you know. Yeah. From a lot of... Not a lot of options in the revision right now.

From at Bobby Atkins on Twitter. Sorry for your loss, Jose, thank you. Lost my grandmother in May. Thank you for the continued content during the pandemic. Quick question. Does Michael Chandler join the UFC regardless of outcome on Friday? Well, first of all, thank you for the. Dundling says, yes, my grandfather passed away.

Shout out to my mom who lost her brother and her father in the span of one month. That is just absolutely brutal. So thank you for the kind of words. But to answer the question, does Chandler join the UFC regards to the outcome on Friday? Set the scene. He is rematching Benson Henderson, noted comic book fan, even though his favorite comic book character is Shatterstar, which is just a terrible answer. And then his second favorite is cable, which is a worst answer. But regardless of that,

Guillermo, will Michael Chandler join the UFC regardless of what happens on Friday? I think if he wins, there's a good chance to join the UFC. I'd say it's highly likely. But if he loses, it depends on how much the UFC is willing to offer him and how much he's willing to get a pay cut, to leave Bellet or to UFC, assuming he gets a cut in pay coming off a loss.

So it depends of how what what he's up to if he loses, you know. If he wins, I think it's, yeah, the UFC is going to grab him. But it's, it's down to money, I think. Who would you want to say? If he does jump to the UFC, who do you think is a good fight for him right away? Because Michael Chandler is not going to fight someone outside. I think he's a top 10 lightweight right out of the game. Yeah.

So like, if we're looking for a fight for Charles Olivera, Yeah. Why not Michael Cheney? Why not let them? Or you could have Donald Soroni drop down and give him the Eddie Alvers treatment. Where Eddie Alvers is at UFC debut is against Donald Seroni. Dana Hooker's obviously there. Maybe Felder wants to come out of time and main event against Chandler.

Like Michael Chandler versus anybody in the top 15, I'm 100% in him. But Charles Oliverer wants a fight. Donald Solerone supposedly has a fight lined up already, so he might be out of the picture. But I like Soroni or Oliver right out of the game. Yeah. Or maybe Dan Hooker, but I think, yeah, those options are better. Any of those guys. He's an amazing fighter.

And if he does stay in Bellator, there's still a lot of great fights. I would love seeing rematch football. Either one of those guys. So there's still great fights for him at Bellator, but there's just new fresher fights. I'd rather see him fighting the UFC. But whatever he does, I'll still watch him fight. I am a big fan of Michael Chandler. So I think a lot of it depends on not if he wins, but how he wins.

but how he wins too. If he just smokes Ben Henderson, then maybe that, maybe his, is this his last fight under his contract? Is this, I think so. Yeah. So I think if he smokes Ben Henderson, then really I think it's who's going to pay more.

Bellator to re-sign him and the fight rematch Pitbull for the title or UFC. It's just, um, he's not, because Pitbull's a lot tied up in the featherway Grand Prix. So he's not going to be defending the, no, no, no. according to when we were at Bellator's media day, Ed Soros told me that he's not going to defend the lightweight until he's done with the Grand Prix.

I kind of wonder if the pandemic changed anything, but we'll see. Yeah, that's a good. It is good point. That was, yeah, pre-pandemic. But he has to get through Pedro Carvalio first, which is not. Which, if you haven't, go read Guillermo's piece where they interviewed each other. I love when Guillermo does that. So, uh, Pitbull interviewed Pedro Carvalio and vice versa.

So go read that anyway. club. All right. Next question. I know we ran over a little. We're running over a little time, but we can't. We'll fly through these. We'll fly through these. This is his debut. Yeah. Yes. It's a special there. From at it Isaiah T. Chiaki on Twitter. Why can't you fight high? Casey? I'm sure you heard Tim Elliott got popped again or popped for. So that's Casey's answer. It's boo. Giamet. Why can't we fight high? I echo that. Yeah. Yeah, it's, I don't know if we should be able to fight high, but you shouldn't be suspending and banning people from marijuana.

I mean, you can be baked out of your. I don't care. Sure. Don't be baked out of your mind when you're walking to the octagon, like, have some clarity because you're about to get in a fist fight. But I still think you shouldn't be suspended. I think we're all in agreement. Stop testing for weed. I was out of competition and stuff.

Yeah. It's like, I mean, as long as you can pass a basic sobriety test, because I'm pretty sure you can fight drunk. like it's like that's technically that's not against the rules too but like for some reason if you if you had a couple of weed gummies last week and you're going to fight next Saturday no this Saturday you're all you're all you that's just stupid so um I it should be a level of being able to in competition so um yeah that's just done um unless they saw Tim Elliott just just chowling down auto pops backstage you're like oh that guy's done Chowling down on the fudge ones.

This guy has to... From... Who eats the fudge otter pops? From Derek Lombardo on Twitter, one of my former fry-cook linemen at McCoy Stadium out in Patucketucket, Rhode Island. Jose, big fan. No, you're not.

When Trevor Bauer struck out Grayson Griner over the weekend, he taunted the batter with the McGregor Strutt. What's another fight of a signature celebration you'd like to see replicated in another sport as a time? Well, Trevor Bauer is another level human being. I'm sure neither of you guys know who he is. That guy is a lunatic.

No idea. He's a baseball player who's a crazy man. He likes to what he got taken out of game and instead of handling the ball to his coach, he threw the ball over the outfield. He threw the ball like 400 yards in a fit of rage. Not 400 yards like 400 feet. That'd be insane if you do 400 yards. Um, so, uh, he did the strut. What's another fighter's signature celebration you'd like to see replicated in other sports as a taunt? I'll start with you. Oh, he's stinky. Casey?

I will have a class one. Cheat or cheese. Yeah. I think that seems to be one. Can you replicate it from your seat right there? No, I can. That's funny. Casey?

I always love the Josh Barnett, you know, the throat slash. I can't think of too many. How many other? How many ones are there? There's a few that I think would be. hilarious. Like if a pitcher struck out a batter and then did a backflip off the dugout like Justin Gaichie, I think that would be- Or every strikeout? Yeah. Or like if someone gets a touchdown and while they're running, they do the John Dotson backflip off the goalpost. Yeah, I think that would be a lot of fun.

But who should do the Mighty Mouse celebration? I came in. You know, Jose Altuve. Yeah, that would be cute. He's tiny when he's not hit listening to a trash can. scan and punched. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, what? Hey, hey what. Hey, what?

Too soon. No, it's not. It's a new baseball season. They did it. Hey, Casey, did they get in trouble? No, they're fair game. Champs. Tell me what their punishment was.

Casey, tell me what their punishment was. They get lots of mean tweets now. Oh, okay. You still get paid, though? Pay millions. And then none of them got, wait, you're mean to tell me they still get paid and no one got suspended? Yeah, but their social media.

Man, that's priceless. You have no idea we're talking about, do you? No idea. So a baseball team cheated and won a championship and they didn't get in trouble. End of story. The statistics show that it made no difference. Next time you interview Derek Luce, you should ask them about it. You get it's real heated when you bring it up.

Talk about the Rockets. They're unbelievable. James Hardin. Shout out to the former Sun Devil. So I want to see the Justin Gage, taunt, the Dodson taunt, the Mighty Mouse taunt, there's not a lot that's not a whole lot

there's like I don't know there's not a whole lot of signature ones anymore yeah man I feel like that yeah that's too bad Rampage Howl the Chuckletale Iceman

I mean I guess Glover-Tcher still kind of does that oh no what about if someone so like when I dunked on AK Lee Like when that actually that happened in real life. When I, when Sam Rockwell all upped to me and I dunked on A.K. Lee, I did the no time because I had no time for A.K.

Like Balkan O's in America. So I think that's a really good one because that happened in real life. Don't forget it. We can't do this in pandemic era, but I like someone to do the Josie Auto as soon as someone hits a home run. They run around the bases, but they go right into the crowd to the crowd to. It happens in soccer sometimes. They actually go into the crowd, not just like in the barrier? I like that.

Yeah, yeah. Good on them. Oh, yeah. We got Esther Lynn. At Best you go ahead. Pointed dance. Yeah, 100%. I think everyone should do that with everything.

Get a single, just point in dance in baseball. Go play. Hit a free throw. Just start dancing. I love it. 10 out of 10. Real quick question for you guys. Who's your favorite?

Let me sit up with this politely. Not great fighter, but man, you just love watching them fight. Betchko Hay is my She's not the greatest Fighter fighter Man, I'm just the biggest fan of who she is Because I just don't get it It's always fun

Yeah, it's always fun Do you have one of those fighters Goui? Like, it doesn't matter if they win or lose You just You just love the I don't know Just everything about them

Yeah, after the top of my head It's hard to think about it But yeah Betchko Hay is definitely Yeah, I'd have to agree with that All right Okay, we're out of hours. Oh, man, look at these.

We got... We're out of hours. Ben Rothwell dance. No, Ben Rothwell laugh. He... His laugh and dance. Oh, I remember he knocked over him in Connecticut. And then he danced around in that tiny octagon.

I got, we are. Schenko's victory dance. Oh, I don't think anyone can pull that off. No. That's just like another level of... No, when Hardin drops a three, you know, he just does this... Right. Yeah, but see, because he'll have time to do it because every three he, every three he hits, he falls over and he gets another shot inside of basketball.

Rockets all day. See, now you're just pulling up Houston things. Hey, I can, I can control what goes on the screen. Rockets are great. They still got to win. Westbrook is cool. You know that I think they have the smallest starting five. I think they're tallest players like six, seven, which I think it's hilarious.

They're still great, though. Is that it? Got any more questions? It's just about the Astros and Rockets now. Okay. Are they saying like, why are the rockets so... They're saying why they're so awesome. Casey, got your handsome.

I like that Gwee guy. Nice hair, Jose. Yeah, that's all the comments are right now. Well, two of those things are accurate. The other ones are not. Anyway, you guys know the drill. Garame, you are the guest of honor. Congratulations on seven years at anime fighting.

I hope we get 700 more. So the floor is yours. To plug, talk, say whatever you want, my man. I don't have a promo. I just like to thank this fantastic team for heading me for seven years. Hope to stay here for more 700 years. I'm not a crystal guy, but my wife is. So I brought all the her crystals to show you. Is there any pyrite in there?

I have no idea of the tiger's eye. The name is what this is. I have no idea what this is, but there's a lot of crystals here. So she's on Team Crystal. Added to the list. Not an unofficial member. She is an official team Crystal. Jessica, if you're watching, see if you can ID those and tell us what they do.

Yeah. And then we can get back to you. The airmen needs to know. A lot of callers. Yeah. Oh, Crystal Jessica's on a bad street. Did you see how her picks went for? Did not do great.

Anyway. She also says that she wants to nominate Brian Keller her or Giresino as the new official Captain Crystal's. given the light of certain things that have come out. Anyway, we'll talk about that another time. But Casey, what do you got to say? No, thanks for watching everybody. And be safe and have a great rest of the weekend.

And enjoy the slug fest of heavyweights this Saturday. And also the Belator car can rule. So we have Friday and Saturday fights. So, yeah. And before that. And Rising. Oh, yeah, Rising. Thank you.

Yeah. And before all that, we got the contenders series tonight. I'll be on the scene. You can watch all of our post fights scrums. I know we're one fight down. So I think there's four fights or something like that. There's four or five total fights. So I'm sure Dana White will talk and all that.

So stick around for that. I'm driving back to Arizona tomorrow. I won't be at Vegas next week. So I'll be back in normal time on the A-side live chat. I think we're going to have Alex Savage back next weekend. Cool Alex. We had a few people tweet us saying, oh, when's cool Alex is going to come back?

Like, I'm not making that up. I'm not saying there's actually. actually saying when is quote cool Alex coming back so sorry A Kaylee I dunked on you so hard you no longer are cool anyway we'll be back next Wednesday 5th on Spotify Stitcher Google Play Apple Podcasts all that key will 100% be back in the future we're out