MMA Fighting - The A-Side Live Chat: Jorge Masvidal's win over Nate Diaz, Darren Till's future at middleweight, Corey Anderson's post-fight comments, Jon Jones' next opponent, Edmen Shahbazyan's emergence, Jairzinho Rozenstruik's potential, more

Episode Date: November 6, 2019

For this episode, José Youngs and Petesy Carroll discuss the aftermath of UFC 244, Jorge Masvidal’s win over Nate Diaz, Corey Anderson’s TKO win over Johnny Walker, Kevin Lee’s KO of Gregor Gillespie, Darren Till and Edmen Shahbazyan's rise in the middleweight division, Jon Jones' future next opponent, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The downloaded two, ghosts in the machine, available now, only from Audible. Listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Jose Young's here, the M.Afighting.com, with new microphone, so we're golden on there. I'm back in Phoenix, sitting to my left. but is it right on the screen? I don't know. People watching, you could see Pizzie Carroll celebrating something or other.

I hear he wrote a big article that's blowing up over there in Ireland, so maybe he'll talk about it for us. But as always, Jose Young's here, host of the A-side. Last week, I had the great fortune of doing a, as I think Estherlin called it, extra live A-side, because we were live in the same room together with Danny Segar in New York City. at a UFC 244, but we're back. We got the bookshelf behind me. Pizzi Carol is here. You guys, every single week on Twitter, it goes, when is Pizzie coming back?

When is Pizzi coming back? When is Pizzi coming back? And I always say, you tell me, all you got to do is supply and demand, my friend, high demand, Pisa will come back. So, Pete, we haven't seen you a little while. What's happening? Tell them what really happened.

What really happened was, I was like, I'm not coming back on unless you do your hair, blonde, platinum blonde. Yeah. This is why this is why this happened. So thanks very much for accommodating me, Jose. You look beautiful as always. I think it's a new look.

I think you're carrying it off very well, my friend. Well, thank you, sir. It was silver for a while. I think it was silver right when I got to New York. And then New York Fight Week kicked my ass. So now we're back to blonde. Pete C Carroll was apparently a huge, huge fan of the Lost Boys movie. And also a huge fan of I can't remember his name,

the guy from Blade Runner, the bad guy with a platinum blonde hair. I care. Was he snips? No. What? Get out of here. Did you just say Wesley Snipes? Oh, sorry.

I thought you said. I thought you meant Blade. I was thinking of it. I was about to fly over to Ireland and fist fight you, sir, thinking Wesley Snipes was in Blade Runner. I've never seen Blade Runner, the old one or the new one. So what are you going to do about that? I. There you go.

Add that to the list of another film that people get upset with me. for not seeing i am at a loss for words pc carroll is truly a lost soul ladies and gentlemen but as always ptzey carroll look what i brought you i got my crystals it's crystal time yo i got my i got my i got my crystals my energy is good uh people that are listening that are only listening uh i am holding up my necklace of crystals uh that i told ptze i would have it is sitting right here hanging on my microphone for all the posi energies uh as the millennials call it these days i know peterl can't even look at me right now. Do you know- I'm trying to find something that I could bring here, but I don't have anything.

I have a scissors. You have, you have a scissors. I have a scissors, Pizzie Carroll says. A fair budget battery, there you go. Not even a juror sell. This is an own brand battery. So I'm, I'm coming in, I'm coming in, I have my crystals with me, I'm ready to go. And what is Pizzie Carroll say? I have a scissors and a, what is it, a, uh, a, uh, discount battery.

Also a poo bag from my dog when he needs to go on a walk. There you go. I'm a responsible dog owner. I'm at a lost words right now. This is why, you know what? I tell you what, I was in New York, and do you know how many people

came up to me or tweeted at me? Like, I saw some fans in line or whatever, and I was walking on the concourse. Somebody old, Jose Young, to his side. And I was like, hey. And he's like, where's your crystal? And I was like, don't worry about it. And then you know some, we got some fans tweeting at us. Someone brought crystals to the fight.

Gosh, I can't remember. I'm at, this is going to be bad. She's a long-time listener. And I cannot remember for the life. She's, God, if she's listening right now, I'm very sorry. I'll find out, I'll remember your name by the end. It always happens. Is it what?

What name, Jess? Something like that. She always tweets. She's always tweeting about the crystals for us. She brought a pock full of crystals. Oh, man. to bother me. But anywho, I'm happy to look. I'm sorry. Anywho,

there's a lot of crystal talk coming. I don't know if you saw our coffee talk with Danes Cigura, Casey Leiden, and Esther Lynn. But naturally, we had to bring a lot of crystals into the forefront. But that's neither here nor there. We could talk about crystals for the next five hours. But instead, we're going to talk about fist fighting

for the next hour and maybe 10 minutes, as Pizzi tries to figure out who the A-sides, pound-for-pound, number one crystal-loving fan is on Twitter. But For those of you just tuning in, Jose, Pizzi, we're here. As always, this is not our show. This is your guys' show. You can ask the questions on M-Afighting.com.

You can find the post. You can leave your comment in the comment section. The ones in green will get prioritized, or you can use hashtag the A-side on Twitter to leave your questions. Last week, we got to every single Twitter question. The week before that, we got to most of the Twitter question. So we're going to try and keep that socket going. But Pizzi, we're going to jump right into it.

First question. M.Afighting.com from longtime commenter Rob Holland. And for those of you listening, I am reading it off an iPad, so I am looking off screen. Lee and Till, good day, gentlemen. What a weekend it was. Which fighter needed his win the most? Kevin Lee or Darren Till, and who's next

for these guys? I still think both need a bit of a, well, not a tune-up fight, but they don't need to start thinking about top three killers. What's your thought? So yes, Pizzi, two big wins for two fighters that were in desperate need of a victory. Kevin Lee, coming off that loss to Hafeuio de Sinos when he was jumping up to

welterweight. Before that, he came short to Ilai Akinta on the last ever UFC on Fox card last December in Milwaukee. He ended up decapitating Gregory Gillespie with one of the best headkicks I've seen, if not ever. It's right up there with Edson Barbosa, Polly Holm, Valentina of Shipschenko. That was one of the most violent headkicks I've ever seen, and our own Esterlin captured every single moment of it. I've highly suggested you go look at her work from this past week, and she was on an absolute another level. Unbelievable. Like, she's the best of all time, and she was on another level this weekend.

But also, Darren Till picked up a big win. Wasn't nearly as exciting as Kevin Lee, but snapped a losing streak that included a knockout, submission loss to Tyron Woodley and a violent knockout loss to Horace McDow. Moves up in wait to middle, from welterweight to middle, like taking on Kelvin Gasselm, who's coming off, arguably the fight of the year, if not one of the greatest fights of all time. Three-round, Co-Mont event, Madison Square Garden, all kinds of visa issues. Fight Week from Hell, which fighter was in more desperate need of a victory?

And what is next for that fighter in your mind? I guess I'm going to be biased because I'm in Europe. But the conversation about Darren Thiel and Kelvin Gassel from the second that was announced was, you know, why are they matching Darren Till with this guy? This is not giving him his best opportunity to impress a middleweight by putting him up there against one of the best fighters at middleweight. I thought it was a brilliant fight from him I know it wasn't the most exciting fight in the world but that doesn't mean it wasn't incredibly skillful

and incredibly measured I think it's unbelievable that he had come off two stoppage losses went through a nightmare fight week and somehow managed to come away with that victory it's unbelievable but I do think the USA have snookered themselves to a certain extent because where do you go with Till from here?

He just bet the guy who has pushed the champion Israel Assyania further than anyone else the division where do how can you how can you go back to a fighter say 15 to 10 which would have made sense uh for his debut in the division after doing that i think it's very difficult i think that's really you know they've kind of snooked themselves in that regard i believe like because of course till's been talking about stoil bender since the get go here um and and like i mean i don't know what's going to happen there i don't think it's likely but i can see the same kind of things getting thrown around if they do

make a fight like that with another high echelon fighters. You know, one fight in the division and he's already fighting for the title. Remember, there's also a lot of questions around when he got the title shot against Tyron Woodley because Kobe Covington was at play and stuff like this. I think it's very hard to understand who he's

going to fight next. I'm very excited about the prospect that Darren he'll possibly fight in Adasania and Paolo Costa in the future, but I think it's very difficult to match him. Like, I mean, I imagine, you know, come March in London, the annual European showcase show, like he's going to have a very prominent spot. Who would he fight? Maybe someone like Canaer.

Maybe someone like Hermanson. I don't really know. Nothing really seems really obvious to me for Till going forward. Yeah, Darren Till's performance, I think if we were talking about before on the last week's A side, when we were talking about, like, what do you make of, like, is this? Who's next for Israel Adasania now that Paulo Kasta? is on the show for a little while, and I know his coach has kind of refuted that, but nonetheless, if he is out for a while, who would be the next logical contender? And, like, Jared Canineer seemed to be the most logical choice.

He was the next man up. He actually was on standby for this fight. He weighed in, missed weight, but still cut weight, flew to New York. But both Danny and I agreed that if Darren Till and Casey agreed that, if Darren Till had a really strong performance against Kelvin Gasol, the UFC might fast-track him into a fight against Israel-Azana, if they didn't go with the Yola-Romero fight. I don't know if this is the type of win that would get him that fast track because at the end of the day, it's not like he went out there and starts Kelvin Gasolm.

It wasn't like, I don't know how it came off through the broadcast, but I was sitting Octagon side. Fans were not happy at all. They were booing that fight. Every time Kelvin clinched up against the fence, they would yell fight. I had a bunch of fans behind me from your part of the pond screaming for them to fight. They were, they were, they were desperate for some. sort of action. What

they weren't saying what do I say to those people? Like I think that's stupidity. I do. I agree. I agree. I did not have it to be fair. I didn't have a problem with how the fight played out.

Darren won fair and square. Kelvin didn't really argue it. He was a little disappointed in his own performance that he there's a lot to make of Kelvin's mindset coming in because like I said Darren Till had the fight week from hell. You really have to wonder because Darren I think got into New York about like 48 hours before the fight. something like that.

You have to wonder if Kelvin mentally checked out. Maybe he didn't know if the fight was going to happen at the end of the day. So maybe his head wasn't in the mindset. And then Darren Till finally landed and he had to turn it back on. I don't know. That's just me speculating. But Darren won fair and square, but I don't know if that was the type of performance.

That will really catapult him to in title shot right away. I think he's what, number six or five now? He went from Lerangued to five. So who's next? Who would you like to see Darren Tillisph? right next i don't want to give him a yellow romero uh i wouldn't want uh i don't want to give him jared canineer maybe someone like a derrick brunson uh he's the type of guy you kind of like he fought he fought robert whittaker he fought israel ad asan and then those wins kind of catapulted them

into the next uh what do you think should be next uh for darrentill i mean people don't like this but i'm like why why not harmanson like he was yeah it's kind of just stole stole all his momentum him and now he's the guy at the forefront of the division. But had Hermanson beat him and got this massive ovation in Copenhagen, it would have been very hard to annoy him at least a spot in the conversation. Like, I mean, if he had won that and this had happened with Costa and Adasagna, who's to say Hermanson wouldn't have got that shot? Like, you know what I mean?

Coming off the wins that he had. And it also would be they could market it as like Europe's best middleweight, you know, or something like that. That is very good point. Yeah, and they could put that on the London card. It would make sense to be a main event. in that, like, we're going to determine on the European showcase card, who is the best European middleweight active in the UFC at the moment.

Like, that would probably work. Because they did it with Adasania until last year, right? Was that last year? And, you know, Masvedal hadn't fought in so long. And I know people will say, you know, you're crazy saying this, but it was all till the A side on that fight. Like, I mean, Masvidal was coming off that reality TV show, and I know it's astronomical what he's done in just three fights,

but honestly if you were there he made a very interesting Jorge did but I mean it was an alt-hill you know that that's the story of Mazvedal just snatching up all this momentum and becoming the biggest star in the UFC arguably you know

and I remember that press conference all the arguing was between Darren Till and Leon Edwards and then Jorge Mazdaal say hey does anyone have the Wi-Fi password so I remember when they had I remember when they announced that card I was confused why they didn't make it Darren Till versus Leon Edwards

and then make Horace orie maswell versus gunner nelson but we saw how that played out both horrie mazzle won leon edwards one uh i think if they they could have done that leon edwards versus darren till fight to determine who the best like uk welterweight is i thought that was i thought that made a lot of sense too um but uh yeah like i mean i'm sure masvidal's happy with the way it played out anyway you know what i mean and and and to some extent like the Leon Edwards like even though he came off the worst of that kind of the let's be honest assault backstage um it's still a it's still a uh an interesting thing there it's still borne away in the background i know leon doesn't have anywhere near the same pull as as masvidal does now

but that is not going away that will never go away oh they sell that in the cage it's never going away oh 100 percent i mean we were doing the coffee talk and we were talking about like what's next to harry masvall who's next to the title shot this and that and i had to be like hey guys what about Leon Edwards and Casey audibly laughed and said I forgot about Leon Edwards or as what is a I think Hoare Ouzman or Colby

Covington one of them calls him Leon Scott which I think is absolutely hilarious. What is Leon Scott? I don't even know what I don't know but it's I have no idea but it's hilarious to me they just don't call him by his name but like Leon Edwards was like at the genesis of this whole BMF championship like Hoare and Mazzwell

knocks out Darren Till and then he three pieces Imagine Jorge Mosval not fighting Leon Edwards backstage and we never get three piece in a soda and like the cult following of Jorge Moswell like doesn't begin. Like that three pieces of the soda was really kickstarted it. Yeah, and we wouldn't have all those people just writing three piece on a soda all the time on Twitter after everything either regarding Jorge Mazvada and Leon Edwards. And that's so much fun. It's so much fun. And like I, and Jorge Moswell has done all the media. He's on all the guest fighter spots.

He was at USC Uruguay. He was in USC-41, Anaheim. He did the ATT Media Day. He's on all the ESPN stuff. But his first one was the Uruzzi Uruguay card. And our own Gary Cruz is there. And he did like the guest fighter scrum with Horamazudal.

And Jorge Mazurl said, it might not be next. And I don't know when it's going to happen, but he's going to erase Leon Edwards from planet Earth. That's what he wanted to do. He wants to fight Leon Edwards. It's just a matter of when.

No, man. That's not true. Like, if you even mention Leon Edwards to Horacea, Masvedan now, we'll cut an interview short. But, like, that's now. Now, this was, this was months ago right after the first Ben Asken fight. Hey, watch my interview with him in London. He went crazy because I asked him a question, but it was brilliant. Like, I mean, as much as he's giving me shit and all, it was fantastic.

Do you know what I mean? That moment was, right, I was loving it. Like, I was a big smile on my face. But I was joking about the tree piece in Minnesota. If you comment on their articles with that every single time, don't talk to me. I am but anyway it's it's like the thing about the BMF total thing um it's whatever and really you know fun built that fight up or whatever people always talking about like you know leon isn't this bad guy or whatever do you not read the article that came out on ESPN this guy

grew up in gangland Birmingham like and in case you didn't know that is a rough as a dog's arse out there lads like I mean they are they are some hardcore people um so I think I think when he released that. I was kind of going, all these people like, oh, you don't want this smoke. He's been in some pretty heavy smoke in his time, Leon Edwards. Believe me, him and Fabian. It's a compelling story that we're going to keep on unwrapping as

as Star grows and as Fabian continues to ascend, but they have an amazing story too. They just aren't as forthcoming with it, I'd say. Yeah, Leon Edwards just needs one of those. Like, he did that. That win over Hafeel de Sondos was big. It was like a main event

fight in San Antonio, United States, and that but he doesn't have he doesn't have that, like, highlight that everyone points to, like Mazudal knocking out Till and knocking out Ben Ascran and Kamara Usman dominating Ty Woodley and Colby Covington's, like,

MAGA gimmick. Like, he doesn't have anything that will really separate him from the pack, I feel like, and kind of put him at, he seems like the lost contender right now. Yeah, I understand that, but from a pure sport point of view,

see what he's doing to people. He's fucking sublime. I just, like, the same way as, like, If people are really booing that till performance against Gasselm, and they don't see how difficult it is to get a win in a new division against a guy who's an absolute killer, and they just completely rioted off because they weren't jumping up and down for 15 minutes. I mean, that's just stupidity to me.

I don't really have anything else to say about that. Oh, I'm on your side. I'm not saying it was exciting. I'm not saying it was exciting. It wasn't. Win is a win. It was very tense. I believe Leon Edwards has the longest win streak in the Welterweight Division right now.

outside of, I think, maybe Colby and Camaro. I'm not sure, but the last person he lost to... The last one he lost to is Kamara Usman. So, like, if you're looking at it from just a sports perspective, Leanne Edwards should be fighting for the title in one of his next few fights. I think personally, I like seeing fight Tyron Woodley, maybe that, like he said, maybe that co-main event of the Conner, the supposed Connor McGregor card in January.

If he gets a co-main event fighting against Ty Woodley in Las Vegas on a Conner-Megger card and goes out there and beats Tyron Woodley, he deserves a title shot now he probably deserves a title shot then too well not even probably he's a million miles away from it though like as far as even though I talk to Fabian there might be an article coming out

and am I fighting soon about this but you know Tyron Woodley's talking about fighting Canello Alvarez I mean this is a million miles away from Canello Alvarez and look when you're Tyron Woodley you're a champion you know lesser fighters have had problems signing on the dotted line with Lee

because of his stock like yeah it's it's it's hard to believe that like to iron will just get a con like Leon Edwards like absolutely and just sign it you know I just I think it's gonna be a lot more difficult than that yeah I didn't who do you think Leon Edwards should fight who do you think he will fight now no I think that's perfect I think I think if that can happen that that's a great idea I think we got we got to see how this main event between Camaro and Colby plays out anyway because if Colby Covington goes out there and wins how are they not in a book horrie Mazadol and Colby Covington you have to

Maybe international fight week, and then maybe Camaro rematches Leon Edwards. Like, there's stuff that has to play out. Plus, that is such a, like, shit draw cards for Leon, isn't it? I know. I know. You get the lad who betcha last, like, a few years ago, and you've gotten this unbelievable streak. He has your number. It's very hard to fight and win against the guy who's already beaten you.

And that's what you get. And then you might get a title shot. And then you might get a title shot. But Horre Maas, Horathe might as well did say you had to heal his hands up to be at, at his post-fate press conference. and I know Khan McGregor wants to fight him really bad, but Hoary Mazel might be on the shelf for a while as it is, so he might not be ready until the summer. Nate Diaz has to heal his cut.

I'm sure we're going to talk about that later, so he might be on the shelf for the summer. The World Trade Division is. Was he fighting? Was he fighting last weekend? Nate Diaz. He was. There was a little bit of a scrap he was in.

Oh, Jesus. I didn't hear him, man. But we're going to move on. We're going to move along. Actually, we didn't even talk about Kevin Lee. The question also mentioned Kevin Lee, who actually absolutely the captain. You asked me to pick one.

She asked me to pick one. I picked one. So then we'll talk. We have to talk about Kevin Lee. It looked better than ever. First fight at TriStar. He said backstage that this was like the first fight he really had since the passing of Robert Fawas, who was his coach and life mentor, that he really had someone put together a game plan like a strategy and everything and he followed it to a T.

He needed that general behind him that could really kind of push him in the right direction. And you saw what happened. Kevin Lee absolutely decapitated Greg Gillespie. He said something very interesting. I didn't get to follow up. But before this, I think that both of us can agree his best performance was the Edson Barbosa fight, where he absolutely dismantled Edson Barbosa. And I think that was the second fight since the passing of Robert Fawas,

and that was the last fight he heard Robert Follas in his head. He was like talking to himself during the fight. Like, this is what coach would say. And then after that, he ended up losing two, and now he's back on the wind calm now that he has Fara Sahavi behind. But who would you like to see Kevin Lee fight next? He said he wants to fight Islam Makachev in Russia. like he specifically wants him to fight in russia russia is obviously this weekend so he that's not happening and he goes is is la makshv called him out so a media member i think it was louis green

a friend of the site said islamakchev wants to fight you next and kevin lee goes is it in moscow and she said no and he seemed disappointed that he wasn't getting to be able to fight islam makachev on enemy territory do you like that fight and if not who should kevin lee fight next I actually do like that fight because I've been very kind of I've just not been excited about who Islam has been fighting and I feel like there's all this talk of them being this Uber prospect and stuff but I feel like they've just consistently matched them

with opponents of the same level and so I actually really like that fight and you know I wonder if it would play out like it did with Havi where it's just like two excellent grapplers going out on the feet I feel like Kevin Lee after a head kick knockout like that. I mean, you'd be wild not to favor him, right, in that kind of situation.

But I do feel as though Islam needs that step up. Kevin Lee is a guy with a lot of name value. So I think it makes both sense from both angles that that's what Lee is looking for 100%. The only other one I like if he wants to fight Islam, but he seems to really enjoy fighting people in enemy territory like Greg Gerelesby is a New York native and he fought him in MSG. Didn't they just, isn't there an Auckland card coming up in New Zealand? why not fight Dan Hooker and Auckland in the main event of an ESPN Plus

card? Did they announce the Auckland card? I don't know, I remember seeing rumors of it, but if they're going to Auckland. I know Don Hooker was talking about it for sure. If they're going to Auckland early 2020, Kevin Leaver, if Kevin Lee's looking to fight someone to enemy territory in the main event, I mean, Dan Hooker in Auckland is the way that is the

match fight to make, I think. That's a phenomenal fight. It's interesting with Kevin Lee, right? And just I know we just spoke about Leon, but I can remember when he fought halfway old asanos, like when he made, was that wealth of weight debut, right?

And it didn't go according to plan. It was one of one, yeah. Yeah, and people were like, if he beats Raphael de Sanyos, he's straight into that title mix. And you're like, Leon did that as eight fight, eight win in a row,

and he can't get no love. Like, I mean, it's incredible. Someone says in the comment section on YouTube, Leon Edwards versus Wonderboy Thompson, who also picked up a big win in MSG. I like that fight. Someone else said, Yeah, and I mean,

someone says Leon Edwards versus Damien Mai, who's coming off that big win over Ben Ascran, I think three in a row. I don't know if Leon Edwards will take that fight, but I like the Wonderboy fight a lot. Yeah, like, and I mean, Wonderboy, like, I mean, I feel like people weren't bowled over enough, boy, what Edwards did against Gunny, like, a specialist on the ground like that. So if he goes and he does it against a specialist in the striking department, like Wonderboy, that's another massive veteranist camp.

But again, like, I can understand Leon's frustration here. Like, he wants a fight where it's undeniable. that he fights for the title if he wins. Whereas Wonderboy is on a one-fight winning streak? Yeah. You know, is that enough? Like, I know he was sensational against Newke. It's a big name, I guess.

That's the only thing. Like, people really like, people tune in to watch Wonderboy fight. Wonder Boy is a two-time title contender. And if he goes out there and maybe beat, it stops Stephen Thompson. And then he goes, look what I did that the champion couldn't do. Like, Ty and Woodley had 10 rounds against Wonderboy

and couldn't stop him. Like, Leon Edwards goes out there and stops him. Maybe that could be something you could point to, but who knows? But Leon Edwards isn't stopping anyone. I know, I know. He isn't a prolific stoppage. Stoppage guy, like, I mean, it's a big gamble to take. Like, I'm going to go out here and stop Wonderboy.

Let me play devil's advocate, Pizzi. No. No. Whatever. Also, I want to give out to shout out to that, our longtime listener, Jessica Nappick, who's on Team Crystal. Team Crystal. You can go find her on Twitter. She's on Team Crystal.

She's actually tweeted a picture. picture of she was holding all of her crystals in the crowd at the Madison and Madison score got to endure the fight, which I thought was absolutely phenomenal. So round of applause for you, Jessica. If anyone sees me or specifically P.C. C.C. just hand us some crystals and we're all about it. I also got a comment saying, Roy Batty's the name that I forgot from Blade Runner. P.C. Carroll obviously knows who that is because he's the biggest Blade Runner fan on planet Earth, especially the one starring Wesley Snites because we live in an alternate universe where P.C. Carroll is making up movies now.

look I'm a big Wesley Snows man I've seen all this stuff yeah name five passenger 57 uh huh money train uh huh demolition man well okay okay demolition man's the one to go to

so if you weren't going to say that I was gonna come over there again blade you just get to name all three blades now blades one two three and then what's the new Eddie Morby film dolomite he's in that as well thank you very much for him what do you get crystals please get more crystals But we're going to move right along from another question from Rob Holland.

What does John Jones want? Early 2019, John said he wanted to compete as often as possible and keep knocking down contenders. His options are now Corey Anderson or Dominic Gray's. He doesn't seem interested in either, nor is moving up to heavyweight. He is the champ. He should defend against the next guy, plain and simple. It's one of the reasons Holloway is so likable as champion. So what should John Jones do and what will he do?

So yes, Pizza Carroll, Corey Anderson, a very angry, fired up. Corey Anderson goes out there and tears through Johnny Walker gets on the mic backstage says he's the number one contender he's the most deserving doesn't care if Dominic Reyes fights John Jones first he's next fight he wants to fight for the championship of the world doesn't care who it is he just wants that title shot most fired up I've ever seen Corey Anderson the most we've ever talked about Cory Anderson in our life probably was his comments after

and then he goes out there and apologizes to Johnny Walker and apologizes for this and that but John Jones said something like There Goes My Early Christmas President or something like that I think he was referring to maybe fighting Johnny Walker in December which obviously John Jones was getting a lot of questions about Johnny Walker and then he sees what happens when Corey Anderson fights Johnny Walker Maybe John Jones was hoping Johnny Walker would win so he could go out there and do that

To someone that people keep asking him about But what did you make in Cory Anderson's performance Should he fight John Jones next? Dominic Gray is knocked out Chris Wyden I think two weeks prior two big contenders at light heavyweight if you're Dana White who do you want John Jones to fight first

um like I can see why Jones isn't pushed if I'm going to be completely honest you know um but I thought Corey was exemplary um right up right back to when he did that interview with you right at the dominance yeah he was fired up

like he had my attention that day I was like holy shit he needs to talk like this way more and I love when he has a chip on his shoulder I fell for a long time Like even when I was over in Hamburg Who did he beat in Hamburg? Glover was it? He beat someone in Hamburg

Was it Elyler Latifie? Maybe it was, yeah He has wins over. I can remember Yeah, he had like this I could feel like there was so much more that he wasn't saying That he wanted to say

And then you finally kind of It felt like at that media day He just went fuck it, I'm gonna go with it And he said it And then he carried that into Fight Week and then I loved it. I loved seeing that raw emotion. Like, you can't fake that.

There was nothing manufactured. There was nothing choreographed about that. That's a man that's pissed off. I love that shit, man. They keep giving us that. Like, if that keeps simmering, like, if he can keep up that momentum with that kind of stuff, people are going to keep paying attention.

So, I mean, maybe it's not the worst thing in the world to have Dominic Reyes, fight John Jones, let Corey get a bit more pissed off, do a few more interviews, and suddenly people might be chomping at the bit to see that fight. fight, you know? It's just, it's just will Corey be happy enough to

kind of hedge his bets? And I don't think he will. He doesn't strike me as that kind of guy. He's a very hard worker. His whole life is made up of kind of overcoming adversity. Despite being knocked back, he keeps going. He keeps going. So I feel like he is going to fight again, even if he doesn't get Jones.

But I feel like that's a storyline that's only going to keep building and building because he certainly has, if he didn't have a lot of people's attention, he certainly does after that, man. unbelievable and I mean what about what about the exact thing you need to do to make a statement just with a performance against johnny walker this guy that's putting out everyone so quickly he absolutely starts the man like he he he destroyed johnny walker you know what i mean and i am

i don't think you could ask i think it was an a plus weekend from cori anderson even though i'm sure dana white wasn't bowled over by it it was an a plus weekend for carie anderson as far as i'm concerned yeah he actually and he beat glover to share in hamburg and then be elia latifie in Englewood, California, U.S.E. 232 last year. But yeah, Corey Anderson, the thing he has going against him is backstage, someone asked him, like, what if they don't give you the title shot? What if they continue to overlook you? And he said, then release me.

I don't need the UFC. I like being the UFC. I'm just like, don't say that because then Dana White, at the Post-Wite press conference kind of, he seemed to have had enough of Corey Anderson. He's like, well, then you can fight out your contract. And if you don't want to resign, you can resign. Like, you say, release me and this and that. You think, I don't know if Dan...

But like, KCR cameraman had this excellent point where it seems like these fighters that beef with Dana White in the UFC, their stock grows just from arguing that Nate Diaz and Colby Cumington have significant issues with the UFC and they've kind of become these people that kind of get pushed to the front because they're...

Everyone hates... Everyone can relate with someone hating their boss. Like when you work in a 9-to-5 job, you hate your boss. So they see a fighter arguing with their boss. It's the same reason Stoneclothes DeVosin is the most popular. wrestler of all time because he his main feud was with Vince McMahon who is the boss of the WV everyone can relate with arguing with their boss they see fighters arguing with their boss they can get behind that i think core Anderson arguing with dana white might blow up in his face

in terms of the ufc not giving him what they what he wants you kind of saw that happen to colby covington where he got skipped over a few times for u.c title shots but at the end of the day we're talking about corey anderson and a very fired up cori anderson you yourself said that got your Corey Anderson has your attention now for what Dana White said. He said that like Dana White goes, Cory Anderson's turned down in 50 fights. He's doing this. He's doing this and doing this.

And finally, I think you said it perfectly. He said enough is enough. Here's my piece. I'm tired of like maybe Matt. I think John Jones said it wants mask off. Cory Anderson now has his mask off and we're seeing exactly what Cory Anderson's saying now. I love it.

I want to see Corey Anderson fight for the title next over Dominic Gray's, specifically because I want to keep this momentum Corey Anderson has live where he actually remember he confronted john jones an autograph signing too like he went out and sought john jones down and called him out to his face i want that corey anderson to fight for the title next yeah no absolutely like i mean he he definitely deserves that and just to your point about people beefing with dana white look at connor mcgregor man he retired and then came back and fought the biggest fight ever with um well it was the biggest fight ever up until he'll be but with diaz too and from there he takes some momentum from that bout into the champion

champ situation with Eddie Alvarez. I mean, like, it's, yeah, I completely agree. And I did fair played to Casey. I knew you couldn't think of that. I knew it was Casey. Oh, come on, man. Do you say, Casey? Love you. Hope you okay. Don't, don't, don't, don't let Casey hear you. You don't want his head in his mustache to get any bigger. Potato. Yeah, yeah, you and your potatoes. You guys bonded over your love of potatoes and what is it, Abu Dhabi, right? What is happening right now? Straight up vegan, just eating potatoes all the time. Are you? you vegan? Just.

Yeah, why not? Yeah. Why not? Yeah. Is that the vegan dance? I'm vegan the way Casey is. All right.

Cleb 21. Lightweight. What is stopping the UFC from booking slash announcing Ferguson versus Habib? Are the UFC preparing us for some fuckery? It's fuckery in quotes. It's starting to worry me that we haven't gotten an announcement yet. So first of all, I believe it would be Habib versus Ferguson.

the champ gets top billing. So, Pizzi, are you nervous that the UFC hasn't officially announced Habib versus Ferguson for March? No, because they haven't even announced this January fight, right? Like, I mean, when Dana White was asked about the McGregor thing on January 18, he's like, we don't even have December done. How are we going to do January? So, I mean, that they don't have a fight that's been targeted for March done. I wouldn't worry about that until February at this rate.

I'm not, I've said this many a time. I don't think that fight's ever going to happen because I'm a big proponent and I'm a pessimist. So if I keep saying it won't happen, it might actually happen because I don't want to get my hopes up. You're jaded, right? Yeah, 100%. We've seen this happen too many times. But I will say that I feel like, and Audi at Tower won't be happy for me saying this. But I do feel as though the fact that he isn't a paradigm, the same management company as McGregor will help him in the lightweight stakes.

Yeah, you've got to feel like that can't help him. I mean, I don't feel as though, like, Odie or Tim, where we're purposely going out of their way to sabotage Tony's title chances. But it could just make sense that it would be easier to arrange that if your management company weren't also looking after another lightweight contender and former lightweight champion and also the biggest star in the sport, you know? Yeah, this kind of like, this is one of those, the Habit Ferguson fights, is one of those fights, you know what's happening next,

you know you have a targeted date that just waiting to announce it. It's similar to the Steep A versus DC3. Like that fight's going to happen next. You just don't know where or when. I'm not nervous. They haven't announced Burgesson versus Sabiv. Just nervous in general, right? Yeah.

You just nervous across the board. That fight, they announced that fight. Say they confirm it. Say we're fighting like March, whatever, in Las Vegas or New York or Brooklyn, wherever it is. I still will not be convinced that fight is happening until they are inside the octagon because we've gotten media days we've gotten stare downs Habib fell off the day of morning wayans Tony fell off like a couple days before the fight I don't think that fight's happening

and I'm not going to be like Tony Ferguson or Habib might get hurt walking to the octagon I don't think that fight's happening until they're inside the octagon I'll make this very easy for you I hope Brian Tucker's listening to this I have never been at an event that was supposedly meant to hold that Tony v. Habib fight so i've not been involved for any of those four dropout so i think if you make sure i'm on the ground in brooklyn or wherever it might be brian it's gonna be fine so that's that's that's just my two cents in the situation up for that shit as long as you got as long as you got your crystals we should be golden and for whatever reason i'm gonna just be blinging i'm gonna wear a

whole jacket made of crystals that oh god oh god i don't think the world is your raging you didn't think about that you're raging you didn't think about that before me a little bit a little bit and for whatever reason the questions aren't loading anymore so i'm going to look at the youtube section uh emma gods will give us a beaver's tony ferguson they spelled tony ferguson uh ptsy should use ptsy should use more conditioner oh man cold blooded i don't like you know i don't even know the difference between the two of them i just have the balls and i'm like yeah whatever clean your god all right another question from rob holland rosin's Holland come on guys you got to step up Rob Holland's bogart and all the questions

Troy and Tugger has already said I'm not going geez Louise well there goes that Jarragino and his test Rosenstreak Rosenstreu I can't I'm sorry I always pronounce his name wrong stepping up Jarazine your Rosenstreak and his touch of death strike again he now steps up in competition and faces Alster over him so he knows someone is going down question is who what are your thoughts is this the right move for him or will a lot set in back after gaining momentum I like this fight I actually asked Girozino to his face would you be interested in that fight and I will add Pisa Carroll what was Giorzino wearing around his neck after the fight?

He was he was wearing some crystals and thanks very much for notifying me that immediately. Oh as soon as he walked backstage I was like I turned a Danish to Giro and Casey Light I'm like you know what I'm gonna ask right and they're like huh I go look what's around his neck and Casey's just like oh god so of course I had to ask and every media member was like God damn it, Jose, you and your crystals. But I had to look out for Pizzi and Jessica. We're on Crystal Watch 24-7. But anyway, Girozino.

And the man who initiated the Crystal movement for us, Mr. Jared Kahneneer. I can't wait to interview Ackley again. Let me tell you that much. I truly encountering the days until Captain Crystal is on an anime fightings YouTube channel once again. But anyway, Jarzino is fighting Alistroving? Do you like this fight? Is it smart for Overeem to take?

Is this smart for Jarii Nia? take will a lot set back as momentum piece of carell your thoughts um i feel like uh yeah i think alice there um if he sees any kind of guy that's noted for knockouts and stuff like that i think he fancies his chances as a much more sophisticated striker you know what i mean the fact that he has um you know done so well in k one beating the likes a batter harry and stuff like that i feel like he's always going to back himself in those situations so it didn't surprise me that he took it and Yeah, yeah, I feel like on a course of you are Jerzyno You're him anymore

You know, it's Alistair Overeign, Christy I mean, but you also saw This could be say he But say he beat Alster over him Now you have a conflict Remember the last You gotta fall for the heavyweight champions For the world next

That was a you knocked him out UFC 218 Faw for the heavyweight champions of the world The UFC 220 in Boston against Dipe Amiotas So this is very similar remnant Similar situations to me The only issue is the five round fight I will say I wish the circumstances were different

obviously because Alistrovereign's original opponent, Walt Harris, pulled out because of the unfortunate and tragic situation with his stepdaughter. We'll save that for the promo. But Jarzino is willing to step up. It does not surprise me. Alastroovrim took the fight because he's said in many a time, doesn't care who he fights. He just likes to compete. He'll fight anyone anytime, anywhere. I think he's really one of those heavyweights. Now that he doesn't have to cut weight, he's been in a million fight camps. He knows what to do. He just likes to fight and he wants to do against his newcomers. So, Jairzino, I think he has what, like,

he's former sparring party with Tyron Spong and all that stuff. So he has the kickboxing credentials. I think I love this fight. Feels like it's going to be a kickbox the match inside of an Octagon. Yeah, like, I mean, I think over him is still amazing, you know what I mean? Like, I really do. Like, I mean, people didn't really know much about the guy, but look at what Pavlovich has done since he fought over him.

You know what I mean? Like, he's been knocking out everyone. Like, this guy is, over him is still the shit. You know what I mean? mean so um yeah i do i i think the fight makes sense you know given the circumstances i think it makes perfect sense and because of jersino's knockout on such a big card you know it's got so much momentum it's got a good knock on effect for this card so why the hell not you know what i'm saying so uh pavlovich is uh the guy fond china correct um i think so and i i remember exactly where it was

I read somewhere that that was the biggest, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, because I breeze this really quickly. I read that that was like the biggest gap in pay between fighters in UFC history. Like Pavlovs, surprise me. Pavlov made like maybe 20,000, 25,000, and then overre made like a 800,000 for that, I think it was a co-main event fight. But he wanted, he went out there and beat him fair and square. But I love this fight. Jazeño, I didn't get to chat with him at all outside of our little crystal chat. but I'm very much it's five round fight if he can survive five if I don't think that

fight's getting out of the first round but I said the same thing about a lot of fights and most of the time I'm wrong so don't listen to Jose uh you can also go to our Instagram page and watch mark remandie do a shooie when he said that Derek Lewis and francis and franzan it would not go past five rounds and we saw how that that was amazing that was amazing the him and sheen right wasn't it him and shaheen RIP to both of them uh moving along Hardy Harrah Harrah on MMA fighting.com. Edmund Sibazi, a new middle-aid contender? What's next to him?

How would you build him into a contender to face Izzy? Well, first of all, I wouldn't give him Izzy at all in the next 12 months. He, Edmond Shabazian... He's not. He wants to be... I believe he just turned 22 or 23. Oh, well, then. Feed him to the lions. Feed him to the lions. He's 22. Get him out of there. Right. I don't care any...

Coming off a violent stoppage win over Brad Tavares's head kick... head kick knockout that wasn't even a performance bonus that just shows you how crazy ufc 244 was uh but the last person to beat brad tavarez or the last fight brad safaris was against israel ad asan who couldn't do what edmund shabazzian did in five rounds uh and edmundsubesian went out there and did it in one round uh i believe beat jack marshman the first time the previous fight uc 235 so he fought the contender series and then he fought at the palms he's fought at the t-bombel arena twice and now he's fighting an msg and he's getting a slight step-off in competition every time. I don't give him Israel-A-Sania any time in the next 12 months, but he says

his goal is to be the youngest champion in the history of the UFC, which I believe John Jones did it at what, like 23, 24, something like that? He says he has a year and eight months to do it. Can Edmund Chabazian become the UFC Middle-Aid champion in the world in the next year and eight months? Or next, what, 20 months? First of all, justice for Edmund Tardverdean. Well done. Yes, yes, I forgot to mention that. You proved it once again. Edmund Tarverdian is one of the greatest coaches of all time. But it's, would he, would he solve the tail question? Ooh.

Ooh. It seems a bit early, but like, I mean, Jesus, that would be exciting, right? Wow, I didn't think about that one. That's, I love that fight as a martial arts competition. I don't know if they make that fight. I think Daryntill is so highly, well, man, that's such a good fight. I even think about that. I like that fight, honestly.

I don't know if they'll make it, but I really like that fight. Not just a pretty face, my friend. Not just a pretty face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had the Armenian Times talking with him, too, I believe. They wanted to interview him after. So Edmund Shabazzian, middleweight division is full with these young upstarts all of a sudden, and Edmund Shabez is kind of the face of it right now.

The UFC seems to really want to get behind him. I'm curious if he gets on that international fight week card and against who. I really like that Darantil fight. Maybe he fights a Kelvin Gasselm or whoever. But the world is, but again, to my question, pizzi in the next 20 months could we see gold wrapped around edmunds to basins waste no not in the next 12 months i don't think so especially a guy that's so young like that i think the ufc would be foolish to really rush him i know it's it's it's it's kind of like the

gas some situation like where do you there's not many places you can go as in after tavares right like i mean he's got to be top 10 right uh so yeah so it's going to be an interesting situation for him like i mean but i could like i mean in the next 12 months could he fight three times and none of them be for the title absolutely what about next 20 if we just clutch our crystals together at the same time and i'll put a good focus on this maybe it could happen though are you holding yours see i am i am are you holding yours we're not going to use the power of the crystals i mean i'll just hang on right i'll use my i have a scissors as peterals i have a scissors i'm see if you're not if people are only listening are hearing this this is me

harning the powers of my crystals in my hand. Pizzi, get on my level. I literally text Pizzi. Every crystal I see in the wild, I text a picture of two. This is the scissors. These are the scissors I have. Jose has crystals. I have the next best thing, which is scissors. So I walked around saying, if someone sees me in the wild,

give me a handful of crystals. If you see Pizzie Carroll in the wild, apparently he just wants scissors thrown at him. So Pizzi... I'm going to get a lot of soft wounds. Dear God, Pizzi, you better have your head on a swivel if you're going to be coming at you with scissors all of a sudden. But back to the question at hand. I don't think Edminship Bayesian will fight for the UFC championship of the world anytime in the next 20 months. Because we got Israel-A-Sanya versus Yol-Mar-Marrel that we got to do.

We got Israel-Aisnav versus Paulo Costa. We got Jared Canaanier out there. We all of a sudden have Darren Tills emerged. Kamakasal could always get a rematch. So Edmich-Basian, I do not believe we'll fight for the championship anytime in the next. 12, 16 months, 20 might be pushing it. But he also said he wasn't in a rush. Hermanson would be a good fight for him too.

Hermanson be a good fight from too. It would be a phenomenal fight. Yeah, difficult fight. Like he's good hands. He's a good grappler. But I think as we saw against Canaaner, the thing that he can't kind of equal some of the guys at the top of the division is his stopping power.

And obviously, Shibuizen has an unbelievable stopping power as we saw against Tavares. He also said he wants to be the young champion but he doesn't want to rush which seems like counterproductive to what his ultimate goal was but he likes the slow climb uh so who would i like the darrentill fight the derrick brunson fight is also there uh i don't want obviously i don't want to give him robert whittaker or yoll or marro or anderson silver any of those guys so oh man i like that darrentill fight now that you say it i really like that darrentill fight i don't know if it'll happen but i'll want i'll inject that

fight into my veins. But we're going to move right along. I'd like him to fight Yeroyah Hall either. You know, I think Yeroyah Hall. I would have like Till to fight Yeroyahal on his debut at middleweight so he could slowly build him towards the title. So maybe that would be a good fight for Edmund because you know, he's a striker. Eroyo's a striker

who could be a fantastic matchup. Long story short, Edmunds Sibazin versus fill in the blank of anyone in the top 15 and I will watch the hell out of that fight and so Pete's a carroll. But we're going to move right along. Actually, a question from the YouTube comments from Emre Usseler. I apologize if I mispronounced that.

Why is Justin Gachey a bad matchup for Connor McGregor? Justin Gathe lost to Eddie Alvarez and Dustin Pori when Connor beat them both badly. Interesting question. I've seen a lot of people in the median fans assume that Justin Gagy is a terrible matcher for Connor, and Justin Gage will tear through him giving his wrestling credentials, cardio, the power he has in his hands. basically I justin gaiti is a terrible match for connor gregger that seems to be like the the theme of the lightweight division right now but when you look at his the last two losses they were finished they were tkio losses to poorie and eddie who connor absolutely dismantled so pizzi carroll why

why is the narrative that justin gaiji a bad matchup for connor mcgher i mean they both rely heavily on pressure and gaiji is going to keep walking forward until you turn the lights off on him so maybe in that regard but i also think think just the fact that McGregor was making a play for Frankie Edgar who had already announced that he was going to 135, I think that planted some doubt in people's heads as to what is he trying to do here? You know, like, Frankie's talking about going to 135 and he wants to fight him at 55. It's like, what kind of challenge are you looking for here? And I think when people compare Frankie who had kind of announced he was going to 135 against Justin Gagee, you can kind of see where people might be drawn that conclusion. I think it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's, It's a conglomerate of a lot of things, but I think at the height of Conner's power, which was probably the Alvarez fight, you know, it probably would have been a terrible matchup for Justin Gehche, but it's been a long, long time since that fight, you know, it's three years now. You know, and what evidence do we have to suggest that Conner's anywhere near that guy in terms of an athlete anymore? Because all we have to go on is a boxing fight and the Habib fight, which he was pretty much one-sided loss for him. So I can understand the doubt against, you know, fighters at the top of the 55 bracket.

I can understand it, man. Yeah, and I think, just the, yes, we haven't seen Connor pick up. Like, his win against Eddie Alva is one of the greatest performances they've ever seen in the history of the U.S. It was an unbelievable event. Yeah. Incredible. Like, I mean, that really, that really made, that was the first MSG card. And that kind of gave us that sense of magic around that event.

And it's still there, you know, as we saw last weekend, It just has remained every time. GSP, Bisping, whatever. You know, it always seems to be a really interesting marquee event. And yeah, I just feel like that night he looked like he was in a video game. It looked like it looked like a fight scene from a movie or something. You know, he was absolutely flawless. And it's similar to, I, K. Lee and I talked about this was after USC 243,

Israel out of science performance against Robert Whitaker was his, was a similar to style of performance. Pitched a perfect game in a massive. massive record-breaking arena. He's like, he's this start, he has this, he's oozing charisma and he finishes him with a, the knockout in the second round. That is exactly what happened to Connor McGregor. His, Eddie Alvers, Connor McGregor's knockout of Eddie Alvers was exactly what Israel

Asana did to Robert Whitaker, I think, in the eyes of fans, the performance, everything around it. Like you said, that big fight, you were there. It had that big fight feel. He had the interests and everything. So two spectacular performances. But to answer the question to Justin Gachie, since his two losses to Dustin Porre and Eddie Alvers has been,

looks like a completely different fighter. He's now, it's like strategic violence where he only need, he's not going in there, biting down his mouth and just throwing everything he has. He's picking his shots and knocking out people in the, like three straight first-row knockouts. I believe in the last three fights combined, he has like, he's maybe absorbed like 30 or 40 strikes total in the three rounds

combined. The first round against Michael Johnson, he absorbed 50 in one round. So we're seeing a different Justin Gaiti. I think the Justin Gage we saw against Michael Johnson, against Justin Poy, against Eddie Alvers, would have had not had, wouldn't have had success as we think against Connor McGregor.

The Justin Gage of 2019, I believe is the worst possible match for Justin Gage, Connor McGregor right now. Just a quick note to Brian Tucker. It was also Adasania V. Whitaker and McGregor v. Alvarez, There's two amazing performances. And they both called me afterwards, Connor and Israel, and they were like, that was you, man.

That was all you. So, TIL. Piz and Carol is a walking crystal who just exudes. I don't need crystals. I just need a good scissors and a smile. I assure you, you will not be allowed to bring in scissors into a UFC event. That's just a hunch, though. Speaking of which...

What if I made a... And I was like, Mr. Scissors. And they were like, oh, he's got to have some book and scissors. on him is Mr. Scissors. You want to be called Mr. scissors. Boy, does that not, does that mean something else? I have no idea.

You want to be, we're here talking about crystals and PTC's here. Call me Mr. Scissors. Snip, snip, snip. So I'll try another gimmick next time, okay? Yeah, every single. Mr. Celitate. You're going to be just a rotating gimmick right now. And so one of them actually sticks.

But as of now, Pizzi is on team. Crystal. He took him a long time. I remember the first time we brought it up. He threw it aside. But we're going to move right along. Sean Denny, can I borrow Pete's phone to watch UFC Moscow? Well, like Cage Warriors Cork. I'll be using mine to stream KSW 51. Thanks. You can do whatever you want, Sean Denny. Whatever you want, my friend. We're hopping over to Twitter because people always say to check Twitter. UFC 244 from Tony tar at Tony underscore Tarhan.

This, UFC 244, I'm assuming. He doesn't say the event name, but I'm assuming. This fight proves my view of Nate Diaz being one of the most overrated fighters in MMA. He gets credit for having a crazy chin and cardio. We have seen him get dominated so many times. It's crazy that so many people think so highly of him. Do you agree? A side fan from Australia. Wow, shout out from down under.

But similar question was also, I believe, tweeted any chance Jose from at Frankie Hargan, any chance Jose and PC can dispel the myth. Nate Diaz is a five-round beast who is definitely going to come back and who is definitely going to come back and beat Game Bread Fighter Horde. Maaswell. Nate has been to five rounds twice and lost both in the McGregor fight. He lost round four and round five was close. So both questions, very similar. There seemed to be this argument that Nate Diaz picks up the pace in the later rounds and maybe loses the earlier rounds, comes back and wins the final rounds.

Both of these Twitter questions want to us to dispel that. So, Pizzi, I would like to hear your thoughts. You've obviously watched Nate Diaz, I'm assuming, his whole goal. career as have I. Is this idea that Nate Diaz is a five-round fighter and comes back in the round four-and-five true? Or is this just what we're, or is this something that we're kind of concocting in our head to, we didn't get rounds four and five against Hori-Mazval because of the cut over Nate Diaz. I'm surprised no one's asked us about this today. The fight, the doctor stopped because of a cut between rounds three and four. So fans were robbed of four and five against

the fight against Horri-Mazvold. Nate Diaz said, those are the rounds he was going to come back on. It seems a lot of fans are like, well, we lost the final rounds. Nate Diaz would have won if we got those two. So is the idea that Nate could have come back in on four and five? Do you agree with those? And is Nate Diaz truly a later round fighter?

I hate even kind of, you know, forecasting what could happen in the last two rounds. Because that's what happened. It got taken away from us. We have to deal with that. You know, that's why you get so much outrage and way too much outrage if you've read the article that Stephen did. I mean, it's ridiculous the shit that that doctor had to put up with. But, you know, I feel like I think he is an amazing cardio. You know, I don't think that's a question at all.

Is he overrated? No. Like, I mean, he beat Connor McGregor, who was this unstoppable force to the time. He bet a former champion in Anthony Pedison his last outing. I mean, I think it's ridiculous to suggest he's, he's. overrated and I think his cardio has been one of his most valuable tools so kind of disagree with that as well I'm not going to say Nate would have won four and five he was going to submit him in the fifth I saw all this crazy shit going on calm down lads we don't know what would have happened

there masvada looks sensational for three rounds that's all we can go off that's what happened and that's the way it is I agree uh I do I am on the side that Nate Diaz is a later round fighter. He's only been around five twice, blah, blah, blah. But like, he watched, we talked about this on Coffee Talk. He definitely lost the first round to Michael Johnson on that ESPN card, and then he came back and just beat the soul out of him and then called

out Connor McGregor. Got the got beat up pretty bad in that first round against Connor McGregor. And then, yes, it was the second round, but Connor, his, his, Connor's cardio fell and Nate Diaz was still right there where it was always, as

one of our Twitter followers mentioned, won the fourth round against, did really well against, I can't remember for this round three or four against Connor, and then Connor came back and won the later rounds. Same thing with Anthony Pettis, I believe, lost the first round, and then came back in the second and third round to win. Those are some three-round fights in there, but this idea that Nate Diaz's cardio is not a weapon is nonsense.

I don't know if it would have helped him against Jorge Mazudal. Because what these Twitter questions aren't saying, as Nate Diaz said he had a knee injury going into that fight, so he couldn't even run. So his cardio, he, this is the first time I've heard Nate ever say he wasn't confident in a fight. He wasn't confident his cardio could carry him. Those are his exact words. So he was taking it slow the first few rounds and then he was going to pick it up around four and five. And he said he could

feel Jorge Mazel getting tired and kind of breathing heavier. And then the fight ended. And he said he felt his opportunity to come back was taken away from him. I don't know how true that is. But that's what Nate said. I believe he had an knee injury. I do believe his stamina wasn't on point. don't know if it would have helped him around four and five because Horne Mazel has good cardio too. He's done triathlons all the time too. I don't know but I'm just, I am disappointed we didn't get rounds four and five.

I'm just going to make the one point at the end of this because we didn't really get to talk about that fight that much and it's not really a point, it's more of a question to you. Do you believe if the shoe was on the opposite foot and Diaz had the performance that Mazvedal had would the UFC be immediately open to a rematch for Mazbel? Hmm.

That's a good question. I think they would be more open to it. That's my idea anyway. I feel like Nate has been kind of... I feel his pain. You know, I can feel the angst within him when he's talking about this. And I was kind of thinking to myself,

if Nate had done that and it was stopped like that, I think he, like Masvedal did, would have said, this isn't... I think it would have just been more likely for the UFC to go... Well, at least Dana White to openly say he was considering it

rather than kind of going... Nah. To the Diaz rematch. So is this scenario, you're pretty... presenting is the fight that was playing out is it the same fight like so Horri Maswell so Horri Maswell so Harry Moswell dominates three rounds and then but he gets one cut say from one punch and the doctor no no no Diaz

Dias dominates Masvedal oh masvidal gets caught hmm I think they I yeah I I I tend to agree with you the why Maswell is kind of the man right now it's similar to like when Connor lost to Nate and he got the immediate rematch but like if Nate had lost, there's no way they would have booked that rematch. I, yeah, I see what you mean? Nate himself did say, what did he say? He's like, I see the fuckery coming. They're not going to give me what I want, this and that.

So yeah, I do tend to agree with you. But both fighters, it seems like the only one not open to an immediate rematch is Dana White. I mean, Jorge Mazzel said he's down for the biggest pay day, and I don't blame him. Nate's one of those guys. And if the fans wanted badly enough, because I don't know how it came off in the broadcast. I said that before. the fans were not happy at that doctor when they stopped the fight. The fans behind me were getting ready to throw things into the Oxygen.

Like they were picking things up and getting ready to chuck them. Dude, they sabotaged to go his business. They've got to fucking fire lads. Like, I mean, the dude's doing his job and leaving Yelp reviews and shit. That's crazy, man. What's wrong with people? What the fuck is wrong with these? They wanted to see violence.

Roy Misewell has said, what he doesn't want to be you can be like frenzied in it like I want to see violins but you go home and two days later you're like where's Yelp? Oh yeah. Well Yelp Yelp reviewers in general

I'm not a big fan of Yelp because you're you I'm another conversation for another time you're ruining people's businesses just because like what you got like a napkin folded incorrectly like napkin not fold correctly three out of five everything else was great

like get out of here I do like reading them just to see the shoot Nate Jorge wants to It wants to fight the biggest I think his exact words were I don't want to be He's so he said on the most

If my opponent would have won And the only reason I won is because my opponent Fell Down is pretty much what he said He doesn't like that idea But he wants to get paid first Doesn't care who it is Or when he wants to get the most Zeros at the end of his check

I like that Nate fight I want to see that Nate fight run back Casey Leiden really wants that fight run back but I'll ask you if this was any other fight like say this was just a three round fight between Horamazval and Nate Diaz it wasn't for the BMF championship of the world it wasn't a Madison regard and the Rock isn't there

it's doing all this are we having the same reaction or is it so it stopped between two and three so after the second round it stopped there'd be more there no like it'd still be the same I think yeah but I think the fact that is for the BMF championship of the world like the BMF championship was decided by a doctor not a fighter, not the judges, a doctor. Like, Nate wasn't finished, you just had a cut.

And did you see that photo that our own Esther Lynn spliced together? Yeah, yeah. Same cut. And Nate said he didn't even want to fight in November. He wanted to take the rest of the year off because he needed like, he knew that cut. He said that cut came open in camp. He said, you breathe, you sneeze on me, I bleed, but blood don't hurt. He said he was fine.

It was just a cut. I don't disagree with the doctor stoppage. I don't like the idea. idea of a quote-unquote, what is, what is an early doctor stoppage? That doesn't make sense to me. I think that Chale Sondon says something similar. Like, I don't understand what an early doctor stoppage means. If you can see his skull stop the fight. But Nate Diaz said, like, I was fine. If he won Ferenst Square, I want to run it back, but he doesn't think he's going to run it back. I want that fight ASAP, because I just like that fight. I think it's a high-level martial arts

fight and let the rest of the Welter whites do their thing. Leon Edwards, Tyron Woodley, all those people, and you name it there's a whole bunch of fun fights at welterweight but uh anything else you want to say on that fight ptze i know you watched it over on the other side of the world at a crazy hour over through the television um no no i don't have anything else say i did that it's um no i don't i don't really i can just i can i just heard the sound of a thousand laptops going when i saw the rock walking out with the toilet i was like ah shit but it didn't have that it didn't have that bad uh reaction over here it's just when i was looking at that that it like this is going to be used as ammunition against me

when I do another one of those live radio debates where we're talking about, is I'm a sport or is it just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But no, it doesn't seem to happen. They only seem to really watch and criticize when Conner's fighting, so, yeah. Yeah, we got away with that one. Connor said we were robbed of a war,

or robbed of a classic with losing those rounds four and five. Do you agree? Yeah, yeah, like, I mean, I thought it was, I mean, I was still very intrigued by what was happening in that fight. I loved that. That was fun to watch. And Masvedal was absolutely sensational, but you just can't ever write Diaz off. That's what the beauty of them, right?

And even though it was happening in round three, and there was moments where you're like, ugh, where it looked like Masvahadal could have ended the fight very quickly in the first round as well. It's like, yeah, I was still hanging on. I was still on the edge of me seat watching that when they stopped it, you know? I was a little bit. I laughed. I said this on the A side.

When the doctor waved it off, I could not stop laughing. I thought, my exact thought was this makes a lot. It's very ironic. I was like, this makes a lot of sense right now. I go, because as fight fans, we're not allowed to have anything nice. Every time we want, every time we think something great is going to happen, we're going to get this epic fight. It's not going to work out.

So I could not stop laughing. And I say, you know what? We deserve this because we thought we were going to. We thought we were going to get something that we wanted. How dare MMA fans be happy? And the MMA fight got your leg. How dare you? We will smite you and take the rounds

four and five away from you. That is exactly what the thought presses I had going on. I had the biggest smile on my face and I was like, oh my God. That is so on brand for you, Jinnett. That is so on brand for you, man. I can't. I was like, this fight makes so much sense. But a few more Twitter questions.

Jessica Napik tuning in. Why didn't Pee-T make it... Why didn't Pee-T make it out to UFC 240? Bummed I didn't run into you guys. Hopefully in event 2020, we can all do a shot of beer together. Also, I gave Dan Hardy some crystals on Friday because he's a crystal guy, so it's not just us Americans, Pizzi. Oh, man, there's a very funny video of actually the Raptors and Dan Hardy in a crystal shop

and they're just pissing themselves laughing at the name of them. They're like looking to, and James Mistry from... from the Raptors is asking Dan what each one of them. them does and it's hilarious because he doesn't know you know what i mean but uh you just check that out but uh yeah why wasn't i there um hosea blocked it that's that's that's pretty much what happened he was like i'm not fucking going if peter's there because we're gonna have to start street fighting at every moment we see each other and there's only so many crystals in the world jess that's pretty much it yeah and i'll add on to that i gave pizzie an ultimatum that he would

have to use conditioner for the first time in his life uh i go pizzi if you don't use conditioner you are not allowed in New York City. And he said, well, then I guess I'm not going to New York City. I'm just going to have flat hair the rest of my life. Well, look, guys, I'm going to stick to my guns. So until P.C. Carroll decides that he's going to use conditioner, he will never set foot on American soil. And if you see him and you see his flat hair walking around, you tell me, because I'll go find him. If he's loitering around Milwaukee, Wisconsin, I'll go over there and kick him into Canada. If he's just dancing,

around Hidalgo, Texas, I'll throw him into Mexico. If he's just like Hops got in the way around Los Angeles, I'll toss him into the Pacific Ocean. Pete's Carol, do not come to America until you learn how to use conditioner. I'm just going to hold Jose down and shave him bald as he screams for his life.

Wow. You know what? You're going to shave me or you're going to use? Stop it. And then it'll be like, why aren't you using your crystals at me and shit? Why aren't you using your scissors, Mr. Scissor?

Stop. on. All right. Stop it sounds like. That's what stab it sounds like. What has happened in this podcast? All right, we got one final question, and it's going to stay on Brad from Louise at Metraxia. Who's the pound for pound crystal weight top crystal weight fighters?

Fighters who are some crystals. I'm not kidding. Look at the Twitter. Look at this tweet we got on the hashtag the A side. PTC is unconsolable right now. Jared Cannonair, it all started with him. Captain Crystal, Captain Crystal, Captain Crystal, man.

Captain Crystal, King Crystal, Jerry Cannon Air. Number two, Jarizio, Macquaran Marikani. Dan Hardy, Macquaran Marikani had a crystal around his neck at Media Day. Didn't seem to help him out on that fight. We didn't even talk about that fight. Shane Burgos absolutely beat the soul out of Macquarad, Marikani, and just ate him alive. Christ. But if you guys could think of any, and actually got a couple likes, too,

If you guys could think of any other comments For next week I'm sure Pizza Carol is going to be back Oh, did I see Angela Hill? Could I see Angela Hill talk about crystals once in a One of our treads about crystals? God, I hope so. People are going to be so mad

Listen to this. People are going to be so mad. It's called the Crystal side now. Get over it. I don't know if you watched the coffee talk on that came out after USC 240 with me, Casey, Esther, and Danny. And we had a whiteboard

behind us and we wrote Coffee talk UFC 244 just so it had a case it crossed it out a crystal talk yes I have a much bit of what had it on in the background because I was recording Eurobash on Monday when it came out and so I need to give it I need to give it the sit down on the proper one I actually love that feature I love it too I think it's what a fair play Casey and Esther the geniuses the dynamic duo the greatest them but everything the greatest fall time I'm I don't see anything else on Twitter I'm seeing a lot of things saying on our YouTube comments say Mazudal's overrated. No, Nate is overrated.

Nate would have submitted him in the fourth round. Being a punching bag is not a good long term for strategy. Jorge Maddahl was gassing. So the fact that people are arguing in our comment section about who would have won is, dude, I'm about that fight. All right, but we're going to wrap up. Pizzi, as always, you know, the end of the show, we ran a little long this time, but again, I can talk. Everyone keeps asking for Pizzerl on the A side. So I'm giving, I'm giving him more time than usual. So Pizzi, as a lot of always promo time the floor is yours okay well this weekend a big event for irish m ms so as you guys know the last time a lot of irish fighters were in the ufc they all came from cage warriors well

pretty much 90% of them came from cage warriors it's a big deal because cage warriors are coming back to ireland this weekend and it's like a whole new cast of irish foriders that we're all very excited with on the ground here so um i guess we're looking forward to in ireland it's a big thing for us because we're going to get the seat for the first time or at least we hope a showcase of the future irish uh ufc fighters so that's something you should check out if if you are looking for some uh fights on saturday besides the moscow card there's a really good main event there at rice mckee he's kind of the frontrunner to be the next guy signed to the ufc obviously if you have a cage warrior's belt it's like getting the golden ticket

reese will enter the title conversation if he gets a win over hack and fuss who's an incredibly aggressive striker, as is Reese, should be a really good main event. If you're not going to check out anything else on the card, make sure you check out that main event. And also a lot of people excited about Ian Garry, a 2-0 prospect coming out of Chris Fields and Tom Kings, Team KF. He looks exceptional in his two fights so far. Probably to me, you know, he looks like the finished article so early on his career and

it's very, very exciting. So that's my promo, not as aggressive as usual, but, you know, it's there anyway. I did it. Well said, Pizzie Carroll. I always tuned to him for our non-UFC European fight information. I know he spit that, he was spitting hot venom when KSW was putting on that big promotion, that big fight. And I think a lot of, I think more people in America turned into that fight than ever

for all thanks to Pisa Carol and his violent vitriol. But for my promo, I am excited to talk about how everyone does not want a lot of people I was seeing don't want israel to sign versus yoll or maryl based on the fact that yoll amel maril is coming off a loss and this and that case and lyd and i were trying to come up with a list of fighters who are coming off of a loss all down so that would mean like frankie edgar going down to featherweight from lightweight and immediately fighting josialdo would not count or like a fight a former champion like ronda rousey then immediately fighting Amanda nunez or maybe a fighter taking a fight on short notice like yoller merrill's done against luke rockold

when he took that fight on short notice and missed weight down austral The only one I can think of is Alexander Gustafson got knocked out by Anthony Johnson, and then the very next fight, he fought Daniel Cormey for the light heavyweight championship of the world. That's the only one I can think of. Ooh. Yeah, no, I mean, I guess McGregor losing to Mayweather and then fight and Habib doesn't count, right? I don't think that would count. I'd say, we count a Maymac in case he was like, get out of here. But anyway, a lot of people were upset with the idea that Yo-R-R-Marrow might skip the queue or like skip the queue and fight Israel-A-Sanya next,

basically because Polo Costa might be on the shelf for a while, and Yol-Romero had just lost to Palo Costa. He also lost to Robert Whitaker twice. So people maybe wanted, like, a Jared-Canon-eer-type fight, or someone that actually deserves it. And Casey was kind of in that, too. He didn't really know. He was like 50-50, and I liked that fight,

but I didn't know if he deserved it. And then I asked Jorge Mazal to his face right at the end of the scrum, what do you make of, you make of Joel Remedy? What do you make of Joel Romero or what do you make of Joel Romero fighting Israel Asana next? And Jorge Mazurl looked at me in my face and told me the best story. And if he doesn't do like the voiceover countdown for that fight, the UFC's, they're messing up. Because I watched that, it was like an 80 second clip and I watched it with Casey. And Casey's like, I'm sold.

I want that fight so badly. Like, in those 80s. Jorge Moswell said he ran into Israel-A-Sahna in July. They were both in the club in Las Vegas after Horri Mosvidal's flying need K-O of Ben Ascran. And he said, Israel-A-Sahna came up to him and said, I know Yol Ramo is your boy. I know you guys have a lot of history, but I have to fight him. My legacy won't be complete until I beat that guy. I don't care if it's for a belt or not.

I can't be considered the greatest until I beat Joel Romero because he is the baddest dude in this division. And Jorge Mazdaal said he gained so much respect for Israel Asanaa because no one asked to fight Yoel. They get forced to fight Yoel. And Israel Adana says, I don't care when I fight him or if it's for a title. I have to fight this guy for my legacy. And that story was 80 seconds long. And I was like, God damn, I want this fight so badly right now.

Horan Maasel sold it to me. And I go, I follow it up. I go, do you think Izzy can win? And he says, Israel, Asana has more talent in my. finger than I've ever seen anyone have that answer I love that answer he said could y'all rammal beat him absolutely could israel ad asan hit be him absolutely and you know your maro and hoary mazvah are such close friends that you know more if it's anyone other than is he hoary mazvahs more than any count any hour long countdown ever could that he not even hoary mazvi doll is sure who would

win that fight and I am so sold on that fight that if that fight isn't made I'm going to lose my goddamn mind because that fight is awesome. God, inject that fight into my veins. I need that fight so badly. Israel-A-Sahani versus Yol-R-A-M-R-M-R-M-R-A-L-R-A-R-W-A-R-R-W-A-R-W-R-A-W-R-R-A-R-W-A-R-R-A-R-B also. Dana-W-W-E-R-W-E-T-E-E-BORM-BOR my skin starts to turn red. Dan Henderson lost the Quentin Jackson for the Lowy Heavyweight title in his next 484, Anderson Silver for the middleweight toy toy. Well, okay, so that, I don't think that quite counts. Stipulations. Stipulations because I'm giving you two answers.

Stipulations because Dan Henderson was the pride light heavyweight middleweight championship of the world. So he put his title on the line. There was a title unification fight against Dan, uh, rampage and a title unification fight against Anderson Silva. So those are back-to-back, chant versus champ fights. So it's not Change the rules Change the goalpost Change the goalpost

Changing the goalpost You're wrong Pizza Carol Per usual I'm right twice I'm right twice Imagine if we lived in a world Where Pizza Carol was right

That'd be unfathomable Anyway Anyway Anyway For this episode of the A side We're going to wrap up here real quick. This has been Jose. That's Pizzi. Mr. Scissors. For those of you not watching and they're only listening, Pizzi Carroll is doing a dance with a pair of scissors right now. So if you

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