MMA Fighting - The A-Side Live Chat | Leon Edwards’ eye poke, UFC Vegas 21 fallout, Kamaru Usman vs. Jorge Masvidal 2, more

Episode Date: March 17, 2021

Some topics include fallout from UFC Vegas 21​; Leon Edwards’ accidental eye poke on Belal Muhammad; Dan Ige’s destruction of Gavin Tucker; the recently announced welterweight title fight rematch between Kamaru Usman and Jorge Masvidal at UFC 261​; and more. The three will also look ahead to UFC Vegas 21​, headlined by Derek Brunson vs. Kevin Holland. Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow E. Casey Leydon: @ekc Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. We're live, pal. Hey, we're live, pal. Welcome everyone to another episode of the A-Side Live chat. We're just one hour. We're starting one hour late. But that's just this week. We'll be back to our normally scheduled time moving forward.

It's a special day this Wednesday in the middle of March. Yeah, it's the middle of March. But anyway, I'm Jose Young's because I'm a May Fighting. I am your host, of course. Joining us this week is Casey on the ones and twos per usual. And making his return. the how would I describe him not the between the links champion

dead miss you that's how I would describe him I mean that's fair I'm not I'm just the greatest of all time also because you didn't mention it it is a very important Wednesday happy St. Patrick's Day everybody that's how I was going to end it

but you take the shine right out man you want to kick it off of sure happy St. Patrick's Day everyone yeah it's St. Patrick's Day? Yeah dog way to be a what are you You're all the worst chyrish ones and tunes in M&A.

I am, I am chyrish for everyone out there. You know, I'm half. I got half that blood in me. So when Connor walks out, he's fighting for me, half of me. I have like three red hairs in here. It's pretty awesome. And he's fighting for a quarter of me, because I am, as Connor McGregor once described me,

a Hispanic Celt, because apparently my last name is very Irish. Shout out to my homies in Westmeath, Ireland. Anyway, you guys know. the drill. You're what? I have no Irish in me, but I'm from Savannah, so I'm just going to claim it. Yeah. I'm going to go to Beniggins tonight. Is Benegans still around? You remember Benegans? The restaurant. Order of Monte Cristo. I'm my dating myself here.

What was that from the 70s? Did you watch Sputton? Were you talking about Sputnik when you went to Benigins? Yeah, yeah. We're like, oh, that Nixon. Yeah, right? Anyway, you guys know the drill If you want to ask Casey about his time When he watched Sputnik Or where he was when JFK got assassinated You can ask those questions

Or you can ask Jed and I MMA questions Hit us with whatever you want in the comments The Twitters, the MMA sites You guys know the drill Casey, what is our first question? We've got a lot of insult I think it's, I'm not sure

I have a real quick question first How come you and I have full names And Jed is just Jed I don't know I like I like the way I look I only need the one

everyone knows you the guy like Madonna he's Jed I don't know oh I got how many

duds are there in this space like sting or prince he's just Jed yeah yeah

yeah I like it good work Casey thank that's fair if you get a law degree you can go

by just your first name um Suzanne on the YouTube comments this is what Ben Asking

would have looked like if you straight is his hair. What is he talking about you, Jed? I'm assuming so. I assume. Look, Brian Ortega shaved his hair off, so I'm coming for the best flow in the game title.

Like that's, I'm working on it. We're not there yet. Give it time. Who's, uh, who's number one now that Brian's? Oh, that's a really good question. These are the questions we have on the, on the A-Side Live chat. What is the question? Who has the best hair?

in MMA now that Brian and David went bald and ugly. Best hair in MMA. Benson Henderson's always said some luscious locks. I'm ready for Vincent to cut his hair. I mean, I get it as part of his thing, but I don't know. I just think you got to change things up,

Benson. What about Kyler Phillips? He's kind of, I mean, I know he's got some good head. He can't rows it when he's fighting, but. So did Brian. Yeah. That might be a good one.

I think underrated hair, Dustin Porre has some really. real nice hair, even though it's short. It keeps it high and tight. Yeah. It's like a good haircut. Yeah, very solid. I respect Dustin's entire like, his physical transformation from like being kind of a grungy little kid to like a really clean cut professional.

It's good work. He apparently, he also lasered off the tattoo on his stomach. I want to know what story is with that. I'd never notice that before, but okay. These are the things I notice. Best hair in M. question mark yeah you tell us yeah we Paul Felder

and Alan Jovan have some good hair but that's like broadcasting hair yeah Joe Ben does have good hair that Joe Ben actually might be my my call for that Angie is good hair too of the big afro that's good I have to think about this guys

this is like yeah it's just next like 20 minutes just kind of sit in silence and just kind of think about this is that good radio All right All right All right That's always a fun one

Looks like an eraser I got I got to think of one more I got to think of I know we have to be missing a good one Before we Scoot off this Come on Come on Casey

Come on Casey Everyone is saying Kyler Phillips in the comment section Yeah I think He's a good choice I mean But I think it's easy choice I think it's just

I mean he's like the more He has the most luscious hair I guess I guess Sure All right Is he, is Kyler Phillips, Kyle with an R or Tyler with a kid? Oh, I don't know.

What about Mosphidal? How do we feel about Mossadol? Oh, yeah. Street Jesus here? It's long. It's flowing. It's long. No, that's a good answer.

That's a good answer. It goes to this vibe. Yeah, we got, you got Drew Dober. Drew Dover. Now we're just talking jaw lines. handsome. I'm talking hair, people. Holly Holmes got some real long hair. I was going to mention Holly Home.

Holly Home. Like, I've watched her train and it takes her a good 15, 20 minutes before any, like, mid session, just to her, like, kind of bun her hair up. Her hair is like told, like, down to the butt crack type hair. I don't know how she does it. Yeah.

It's wild. That's my biggest thing. I don't, I don't know how, just long hair in general. I don't know how you train of that stuff. That's wild. All right, but, I got it shows over. We're good. We answer all the big questions, guys. All right, here we go.

From Tristan Gourade on the site, Leon's options. Coming off a no contest decision over Belal Mohammed, in your opinion, do you think the only option Leon will have as far as the next opponent is against Gilbert Burns, since Leon won't be getting a title shot due to the fact that the U.S. He just booked a rematch between Mazdaal and Usman on April 17th. Wonderboy is another option, but won't be ready until May. He can run it back with Balal, but it probably won't do anything for Leon to do the lack of fan interest and running that fight back. Colby won't fight him either, where he wants the winner of Jorge versus Usman.

So Usman versus Masvidal or Kamarv versus Jorge. Let's get it straight, guys. Anyway, Jed, what is Leon's options moving forward after his no contest following his stabbing? He definitely stabbed Kalam-Mohama Hamid. He's going to fight Balamahman again. And that's just what they're going to do. Here's the thing, right? I get Leon Edwards' point here,

but this is the type of thing that if MFA was a real sport and you had like real handlers who taught you how to actually speak to the media and stuff, you would never say. Because it's obviously terrible optics for him to just be like,

well, I know I poke that dude in the eye, but I want a title shot so I don't really feel the need to run it back. Like, I get what he's saying because he wasn't supposed to fight ball in the first place. That fight functionally, does nothing for him moving forward, but you just can't say that.

Like, you just have to be like, yeah, we can run it back and then behind the scenes be like, hey, guys, what if instead I just waiting for Hamzad or whatever it is that they're going to do? So in the end, he's just going to fight Muhammad again. The only other option I could see is maybe if Hamzat starts to feel better and recover, maybe they just do that because that's the original intent. But beyond that, I just don't think anybody else is going to want to fight him and he would want to accept that fight.

Casey, what's next for Leon Edwards? Actually, I agree a lot with Jed said. Unfortunately, Leon probably should have gave us the BS answer on the mic. It was a great fight, you know, but I was a great opponent. I'm really, so it really unfortunate, and I know he's running back, but as soon as the cameras are off, he's looking at the matchmakers. Nah, bro. Like, I just, I mean, but the problem is, I don't, it's not like, it's not like, it's not

like it's not what really Leon's options are. It's like it's really who who above him or even within one or two of the rankings of him is willing to fight him. Leon? The only first I can think of is Gilbert Burns. Maybe Burns and maybe Wonderboy. I'm not even confident either. Yeah, me neither. I mean, I mean, only Gilbert gets coming up the loss.

Yeah. I think Wonderboy maybe if it's a number one contender fight. If Dana White comes out and says, Whoever wins his fight fights Mazu Dahl or slash. That's what I can't sit down in the first place. Like, I know they couldn't because Leon was trying to target a December and then that got kicked back. But like that fight actually does make total sense as a number one contender fight and probably just what they should have defaulted to and Hamza pulled out. I know Leon wanted to keep fighting good for Belal to get his opportunity.

But now that all this is gone tits up, like, yeah, man, just just do Wonderboy Leon if if they'll both take it. So where does that lead? Colby? Sitting on the sidelines, call him for a title fight, he's probably not going to get. You're not wrong. I don't know. I read some stories that he's too busy to fight right now. Something about his balls.

I don't know. It's unclear. It's unclear. Oh, you did not see the Colby interview, did you? Is it with our friends over at submission radio? Yeah. It is on my, it's literally on my watch Next list. I was probably going to watch it sometime this today.

If you just watch the first four minutes, you'll know the reference that was just made there. All right. Dude, let Colby fight Gilbert Burns. Those two can fight then. Gilbert Burns hates Colby. Well, I mean, there's a lot of fighters that do, but maybe it doesn't, doesn't Belaw hate, have a pretty big hatred toward Colby too? Yes, that is a very. That is, I think, a little bit of a different hatred because Colby said some things about people that Bilal Muhammad represents inside the Octagon, if that makes sense.

So I think that might be a little heated, similar to the Tyron Woodley situation. Well, I think Burns has similar issues, too. I mean, not saying, but it's not just, you know, oh, he's a bad training partner. I think Burns has some issues of how Colby talks about other people. people. 100%. Kobe would not take a fight with Mohammed. Like, he's just not going to take that fight.

Oh, hell no. And what happens? Who does Keisa fight? I forget that Keesas is like a top welterweight, like all the time. He's coming off a big win over Neil Magnet in the main event. He's been called out, Colby. Eh, you can kind of mix them up and do whatever you want there. There's kind of no wrong way to eat that, Reese's.

no you're not the problem is of everyone we've mentioned almost none of them fought each other kamas pretty much fought them all they're just so stagnant in the top seven at welterweight anyway the one positive thing about colby is that he is one of the few fighters that is willing to uh to uh wait wait wait it out to get to get paid what he feel is his worth and um that's I do at least he knows his worth in the UFC but but him just sitting out not fighting anybody I don't know it's just I'm kind of like I'm kind of

I'm not going to happen he knows worth in the UFC I know I mean I was trying to be positive maybe but no that's just not me yeah I respect that he like wants to fight for what he thinks but like he just seems to have consistently negotiated himself out of position which is just not optimal but if we're trying to be positive, I'll give this to Colby.

He's getting better at his shtick. Like, he's objectively getting better at it. Like, it's a lot of it's still awful or cringy, but like he's getting better. So, you know, five years in for playing a character, he's starting to get the reps underneath him. Good for him. Right. Does it still work in 2021, though? It might work even better, unfortunately.

I'm not sure that it ever did work, but such that it worked, it probably. But at least when he said something, he could point to an individual in the White House as his friends and this and that. And you know, you know the drill, but don't know if it works anymore. Even Michael Keese had called. Though Michael Keaza did call him out, he's like, your stick doesn't work anymore, this and that. So if they want to build off that, have at it. That's actually not a bad fight. They should maybe do that.

Sure. I'm about it. is Damien Maya ever going to fight again too is he ever going to his official retirement fight because he's still like ranked like in the top like six or something I thought for sure he was going to get the Diego Sanchez fight

something's going on too that's a fine fight to let him walk away on Diego's fighting cowboy for his retirement McCree Scott so this is another commenter in the YouTube and Twitter's too on the but he's commenting on the side of the time show Shanko and Waley's

biggest test at 261. Which champion will have the bigger test? Could both of the women's champions bouts be much better fights than Usman versus Mazudal, which is getting top billing? I already said Rose, Wayley is going to be the most competitive fight on that card. And that's not saying Androge is going to be. I think Wayley Rose is 50-50, and I still favor Valentina and I still favor Usman. I just have no idea what's going to happen with wayley and rose but jett you're already shaking your head you're already nodding a lot of the things that were said what are your thoughts on 261 i agree with you entirely like waley rose is awesome uh that fight could go either way uh i'm really i'm really interested in that fight and i am probably the

the biggest valentino shivchenko fan certainly at this site or anywhere really but well and like that's a great fight but waley rose like the dynamics there are really just fascinating because and Rose has had issues with like physically imposing fighters. Andraj Deltrar had that one time. And even in the rematch, it felt like that tide was turning at the end of that fight there. And Wayley is as physically dominant as there is in the sport over her peers, frankly. So, but at the same time, like Rose is definitely a better technical striker. I'm just really fascinated in that fight.

I think it's super close. The other women's fight there, Shevchenko versus. Andrage. It's one of the better tests that Chichenko can get. I think Chepchenko is going to just outclass Andrash, frankly, but I think that's still like a good competitive fight. We saw Usma Monserol last year. It is going to be the exact same thing. I just don't think there's any substantive difference there. Both of the women's fights are much better than the welterweight title fight, which isn't to say the Walterweight title fight's bad, but I'd be way more interest in that fight if

Maswell had done anything since getting beat. Like, it's this is just a rerun of a 50-45 card, like whatever. Casey, I'll phrase it to you like this, though. This is going to be in Jacksonville, not in the apex. You know what that means?

Big cage. Big cage. You're in my mind. We saw we saw Rose versus And right after that fight, we did the post show. And we all agreed if it was five rounds in a big cage, in a small cage. I think that clearly favors Androge, but Rose got to keep the distance, have much more space to work. In the three-round fight, she won. Now she gets another physical opponent in

Wealy. Do we all agree the big cage probably leans in the favor of Rose? Not to say that Whaley would be outclassed in this fight, but it gives maybe it's a small cage of favor wayly, a big cage favor Rose. But what are your thoughts on this specific question? Well, 261 will be in the big cage, as long as everything goes according to plan. and the event stays in Jacksonville. So, yeah, I think Rose has, not that it's enough advantage where she would definitely win this, but it's to her advantage being in the big cage. But also for the flyway fight, I think it's to Androge's disadvantage that is in the big cage.

I think the smock, if Shepchenko and Androge was at the apex, I would give Androge a better chance at, you know, getting our hands on Shepjanko and putting Shavchenko on her butt and on her back where Sheffchenko has given away rounds not got her butt kicked you know not being up but she has lost rounds by getting taken out and put it against the cage and what i think um did she did was my uh chefchenko is that was that in the apex yeah okay um yeah so but um it it won't get but i think for rose especially it's going to be an advantage you just i think she probably has some of the best footwork and um just all of m-ma to be honest especially for our weight class.

So, yeah, I'm super excited with the actual question, which am I have the bigger test? It's a giant, probably a way-Lee, but it's a giant test for both fighters. And it's just, it's the right matchup at the right time, man. I'm glad the UFC put them together. I wish, actually, I wish, it was one, that was what I wasn't on this card.

I wish all the focus was just going to be on the two-lady title fights. But we didn't bring up the most important. factor in all three of these fights. You realize this, right? It's the fans. They're going to be fans in the stands, guys. 20,000, I have no idea how many people are going to be in this thing, but like...

In Jacksonville? Oh, my God. What a time. Did Jed freeze? Are you just thinking? Jeff Debt definitely froze. Kevin. Hey, Jed.

Jimmy Shue has frozen. For whatever reason. See if he'll carry on without him for a sec. I'm going to call back in. We'll have him call back in in a minute if he doesn't. Chase him down with. There he is. There you go.

Does he live? I live. The family I live. The thought of fans in Jacksonville overrode his brain and he froze. Anyway, another question from Scott McCree. Chances Kevin Holland gets the next title shot. Kevin Holland wins impressively against Derek Brunson this weekend. Do you think his chance is to be the next challenger to

Is he a middleweight? Who wouldn't want to see Adasania and Holland battling during the pre-fight buildup? How would you like Holland's chances to dethrone Izzy? A few questions. I don't think Kevin Holland beats Derek Brunson. Israel Adasania already said he wants to fight there until. He already said that Kevin Holland is way far down the line, even if he does win. So those are my answer.

So not happening, not happening, not happening. Jed, your thoughts? I think Holland is going to beat Brunson. there's no chance he is the next title challenger for izzie is he like you said is interested in the till or theoretically the winner of till vittori more likely the kelvin gasilum bobby knuckles fight will probably determine the actual next middleweight challenger so my guess is if holland wins he has to fight till the till the tory winner for the next title fight after the fact and I don't know

I'd be really interested to see that fight I'm going to pick Izzy to beat any middleweight that's not named Yo-O Romero so I wouldn't assume that he'd get that done but I at least think he brings something interesting to the table in that possible future matchup I think if Darren Till and Kelvin Gasolam win

I think if Darren Till wins he fights Israel-At-Sahony no matter what especially if Kelvin Gasol wins considering Darren Till beat in quotes. Darren Till, or Darantill beat Kelvin Gasselam in New York, and that's just going to be the narrative they run with. But Israel Adasana just gave an interview with our former colleague, Erahawani, and he already said, I want Darren Till next again today.

Eugene Barron also said he wants Darren Till next. So Darren Till wins. It's going to be Darren Till. Darren Till's ability to fail upwards is honestly the most remarkable talent in the sport. Like it is He has won Like clear cut One one good fight in the UFC

Of Donald Soroni Like he's now a middleweight And he's a lightweight Like he Beat Wonderboy And then he beat Kelvin Casillam He's lost all his other like high profile fights

He is obviously not bad at fighting That's not what I'm saying But it is stunning to me How his career is playing out But he has such funny memes. I mean, I don't watch his fights, but I mean, he's a funny guy, so yeah. This is news to me, actually. Actually, I think if Holland beats Derek Bresden impressively, all that really, I think all it matters to the UFC, they have another fighter to whoever is he's challenger going to be,

whoever he takes the lowest bid, basically. Because I think, if Holland wins, he can sell a fight. And, you know, I think it'll be fine pay-per-view-wise, Holland, I mean, Holland versus Izzy. So I'm not as negative as you guys are. Holland won't get a title shot after this. But I just think it's the UFC, obviously, I think, wants that. And, yeah, just the cheapest fighter will fight Izzy next.

I think the only way Kelvin Gassel. Kevin Gassum, Kevin Holland gets a title shot. If he wins is if he does. if he takes a short fight on real short notice. He's like, F it. I'll take this fight. I don't think they announce a fight with Stylebender and Kevin Holland and like a three months out, like a normal title fight.

I think it's, oh, and this is all worst case scenario probably. Like if it's TIL, if it's Adasanya Till, till pulls out like he's shown he's done in the last few months and Kevin Holland just steps up. I think that's the only way coming. Kevin Holland gets a title shot soon. Which would make absolutely sense. That's the most likely.

That's definitely the most likely. I could see it if Whitaker and Vatori win, then maybe Adasania says, I don't want to fight these two dudes I've already beaten. And so then maybe he's like, all right, I'll go for Kevin Holland. But, yeah, I think that's probably the most, the best chance for Holland. I also don't think. I think Derek Brunson is one of the most underappreciated middleweights of the last 10 years.

Like, he's got, all of his, losses are just, like, he definitely beat Anderson Silva. I think we can all agree on that in Brooklyn. He definitely won that fight. He was like two minutes away from beating Yola Romero before his ribs got shattered. And then he acted a fool against Robert Whitaker. A lot of people are two minutes away from beating Yowell until they don't. We watched that Brunson fight.

Everything was going his way until Yowel did the smartest plan and did the smartest thing in the book and kicked him in the Haley. Until Yowell did Yowell thing. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I think, and like Derek Brunson has, he's been given all these next contenders, like, lately. Like, he's on that, like, if you beat Derek Brunson, you can contend it. He's just beating everyone and beating him pretty convincingly. So I just, I think Derek Brunson is an absolutely fantastic fighter.

I just think he beats Kevin Holland. When I think of Derek Brunson, I think of a lot, I think of him a lot like how fans looked at Corey Anderson. Corey Anderson and Derek Brunson clearly are like, you know, A-level fighters. But the problem is when they lose, they lose big. And that's the memory people have. Like, when Masvada loses, you know, Maswana has losses, but, you know, he loses, like, decisions or whatever. But Brunson and Anderson losses, like, I remember them getting knocked out much more than them knocking other people out, even though they've clearly had many more wins than losses.

But they won't small, lose big. That's not a bad way to put it. I even, well, if you look at Derek Brunson's run, before he lost to Whitaker, when he just came out guns blazing, he was on, how many knockouts did he have in a row? One, two,

he had four knockouts in a row, and he was going for the record at middleweight. Like if he had got another knockout win, that would have been the most knockout slash TKO victories in a row in the history of the Middleweight division, which is what the Rain Anderson had. And they were all over bums. Like,

they were over at least relatively well-known fighters. It's actually a solid run. I'm looking at it right now. Right. Yeah. Right. And then who did he lose to? Robert Whitaker, who he, again, if you watch that fight, his chin is in the air the whole time. And Casey, we interviewed him in Anaheim.

And in his mind, he goes, if I knock out Robert Whittaker, I set the record and I'm probably getting a towel shot. And he admits he was completely looked past Robert Whitaker. That was also in Australia. So he had like a 25-hour flight to get there. And then he definitely beat Anders de Silva. And then he beats Dan Kelly, Iliota Machita in a combined three minutes and 46 seconds. Like, he crushed them.

And then he acted a fool against Jacques, Adisania, and then he's beaten, like, three guys in a row. So I think Derek Brunson is a completely underappreciated middleweight. Yeah, the problem is, yeah. That's my two cents. You know, we're not going to get this question, though, but, like, what happens if Derek Brunson wins impressively, though? Is Derek Brunson just there again?

I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he would probably get him. matched up. You should fight Paula Costa

if Derek Brunson wins impressively if Paula Costa comes back because after Costa lost to Izzy Derek Brunson was like I will fight because Paul Costa's

calling on everyone and Derek Brunson was like I'll fight you tomorrow. Oh Brunson Brunson's been doing the whole you're a juice head thing

at Costa for a while now so yeah that fights to do if Costa wants to come back because he's pulled out of this big man event fight and Brunson wins impressively

or if they wanted to if because again Vittori wins which is obviously also very possible like they could do Vittori and Bronson there's a million fights for middleweight. Middleweight? Middleweight? Did you remember if Jared Junimir was a middleweight contender and now he's just Yeah and he shouted his arm

Yeah he snapped his arm in half Yeah just Just no longer a going concern fickle sport Does this his hard for you read? I got it from Trumbo a long time comments there Two or false. So, true or false.

We'll start. We'll go, Joe Gessie on these. The UFC books Valentin into a super fight for her next versus the winner of Zhang and Rose if she beats on drop. Two or false, Jed? False.

I think they gave her one more. I'll say, Foss, too. Yeah, same. Same. Last minute replacement, Kelvin upsets Bobby Knuckles because expectations are lower and he's able to be looser

and just fight. Jed, sure or false? False? I think Kelvin actually might upset him. I don't think that any of those would be the reason why. Casey? I might have to go up with Jed said. False, but not the second part.

Not because Kelvin's looser. Yeah, I also think, like, if you interview Robert Whitaker, he is so far off the spectrum of MMA. Like, he doesn't even watch the sport at all. So I don't think he's not one to look past an opponent. Because when Anderson retired, when he had his fight against Uriah Hall, we asked him for his prediction. He goes, I honestly didn't even know Anderson was retiring. I didn't even know he had a fight next week.

He's like, that sounds like a fun fight, I guess. Anyway, two or false. UFC books Aldo versus Cody and Corey versus Rob Font while waiting for Sterling Jan rematch. Two or false, Jay. False. I could see the Corey font. I think they're going to do Aldo, Donna Cruz. maybe that's

hoping they do that because that's way better fight than feeding Aldo to Cody Garman where does T.J. Get a chop on in this then. He gets a title fight

did you not read my piece last week about how he should be satisfied instead of beating. See here's the casey doesn't read our articles and A. Klee doesn't watch our videos.

Ruthless. What? Yeah. I say false because I think they will I'll say true to the first false to the second I think they do Aldo Garbrandt and Corey Dillishaw and font is just unfortunately the fifth man out what's this also we're not doing this anyway because they're gonna Cody's gonna fight for the flyweight after thing ask her asker I'm not getting in a title shot come on I guess they're just gonna go

right back to Davison Cigaredo Cody how many and then Henry Sehood will fight all three champions of one night he's he's so good um thank you um It's Cody, is he even, like, is he even training right now? Is he still? He's training and he's tweeted fight news soon, like three times. So he's not. All right. So we're not going to see him before us.

Two or false. Two or false. Amanda Nunes, I assume. Amanda Nunes fights Valentina one more time before retired. Two or false, Jed. True. Casey. I'll give that a true.

I like that. I like to see that. I want to happen. True or false, Manel Cape gets cut from the UFC with another loss. Jed, true or false? False, but it's close to being true. Big giant false. I think it depends on who he lose to, but so I'll say TBD.

Marv Vittori runs through Till and fights Izzy for the belt before the end of the year. Sure or false, Jed? I think he beats Till. I don't think he fights Izzy for the belt next. By the end of the year, though. Yeah, I don't think Izzy's fighting like three times. this year, so I'm going to say false. I do think he beats tell, but I just don't think he fights for the title this year.

I'm going to go on a limit to say true, because I do think Izzy's going to do that thing where he will fight three times this year. And I think at 85, he didn't know, 85 is not a weight cut for him. And I think if he gets through a couple of titles, Vince says, you know, like he did in his previous ones, you know, relative no injuries or bruises or anything. I think, yeah, I think Izzy wants to, you know, just make as much money as possible, you know. So I wouldn't be surprised. And now I think with international, you know, travel restrictions opening up, I'm assuming all the travel restrictions and quarantines,

and the world would be semi-normal that this will be possible. If it's like how it is now, with lots of, you know, quarantining and no two weeks, you know, all that stuff, you know, maybe not. If it's just regular like it used to be, yeah, I think we could see is he fighting three more title fights this year? Because they're loading up on title fights right now. I mean, I think they're going to do it. Yeah, we'll see. Right, that's true.

That's very true. They will definitely need them. I also think personally, I think they're loading up on these title fights now because they're going to have a pay-per-view in May or June that won't need a title on the top. But that's just me. Anyway, next question. Thank you for the question, Trumbo.

Good Lord. Bannamweight jumbled from Andy Burton. You guys are coming in with full-on novels for these questions this time. What do you think the next matchups for Bandomway considering T.J. and Sohudo teasing returns, although Sehudo is removed from the Usaida testing pool. The mess of Aljo versus Jan and big names like Aldo and Garbrand limiting options are people to enter the title picture.

Here's my idea thoughts. Yon versus Sterling. UFC 262 or UFC 263 T.J. Corey, Falk Garbrandt, Aldo Munoz, Cruz, Edgar, Rivera Phillips, Mareza, Sun-South 3, Marlon Vera versus Honey Hani Barselo's, Merao versus Cody, already

booked. You also forgot Thomas Almeida and Sugar-Shawne-O-Malley's books in that division too. Jed, what are your thoughts on this individual's, Mr. Burton's, supposed lineup of Bannonway fights? Sure. I

know that I am the only man on this island. I really don't want Peter Yan to fight for the title next. Are you and Kevin Ayoli, huh? Are you the two ones that? I didn't actually read Aoli's thing. Mine is just that like, I think Jan's loss is legitimate. And if you take everything else out of it, like,

I don't like the fact that he's kind of being a dick. What? What? That's the best part. That is the best part. Yeah, that's why they're going to re-bo. it or let's at least like part of it but in general i also just think if you look at his resume like it doesn't demand the title fight he he has a lot of really good wins if it's 2016 but it's

2021 so like i just would like them to be like hey you did a like that is actually i think in arguably the dumbest thing anybody's ever done in the ufc title fight including widening stupid spinning heel kick and like John Jones kneeing Anthony Smith? Yeah, because it's dumber because John Jones got away with it. Like the outcome dictates that it's not as bad. Like it's, you just shouldn't reward somebody

for literally the stupid, like when the best case scenario is that I'm an idiot. Like that's your best excuse. There's no reward. He lost the fight. He lost the title. And I still think he is the best bantam weight in the bandon weight in the UFC so he's the number one guy still

I agree he's the best bandway in the world that is oftentimes had nothing to do with who gets to fight for titles and just like I don't know man like I just kind of want them

to set a precedent here but like this was really really stupid you should have to fight somebody to get a title fight because the UFC set precedents come on now I know they won't do it but I think the president

he lost his title And the president, he got the DQ. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the punishment. The punishment is that. The punishment, he lost a crap a load of money. And now he has to come, has the challenger, you know, and make his measly, you know, whatever his, now his non-championship Reebok fight kit money is. Venom, sir, the Reebok deal's over. Oh, yeah, it's venom, Brock, get it.

And that's not the UFC saying that anyway. That's like the commissions and the referee made those choices. The UFC were bystanders to it. Like, I just, just make him fight somebody. He didn't have to fight anybody to win the title. I'm as big a Jose Alto fan as there is. But that dude, he didn't deserve a band-way title fight. They just kind of gave him a belt,

and then they're just going to give him another crack at it. Granted, he was probably going to beat Al Jermaine Sterling, but he did it. Like, it's a loss, and it's a legitimate loss. We don't see immediate rematches unless there's controversy, or it's a longtime title holder. He is neither. So, like, I just, I know they won't do it.

I just wish they could. I think there was a lot of controversy. I think the fact that he was dominating the fight. You think probably we're going to win that fight? If he doesn't throw that knee, you think Yom probably wins, or you think, like, 99 of 100 times he wins that fight? Well, I think a vast majority of the times he wins the fight. But he also then just need the dude in the head ridiculously.

Like, it was the stupidest thing I've ever seen in a title fight. There's no good explanation for it. And I don't think that it was like malicious, but I do just think it was the dumbest thing I've ever seen. And so you just kind of got to, you made that bed. You got to line it, bro. Like you shouldn't get a title fight.

You lost in this title fight in a legitimate fashion. You need to get one more win. I don't think that's a lot to ask. Again, I know they're not going to do it, and it's fine because he is the best banning way in the world. I just, it would be a lot cooler to me if they didn't. I don't think at all. I think if they do Sterling versus anyone,

then that's just going to, I mean. That's going to make better business. How? How? Because Aljo should lean into this super hard. So you want Aljo to be like the, like, be the hill? Like, ah, like. He should immediately anyway,

because everybody's already treating him like he did something wrong. When again, he did nothing wrong here. I'm not those people. He absolutely lean into it. Like, I know you're not, but like, he absolutely should just be like, I'm not fighting him. That dude's a cheater. Like, I'm not fighting T.J. Dillishal, that dude's a cheater. So is Peter Yan.

I'll fight. Corey Sanj. Yeah. It would be hilarious. It would be the funniest thing. And people would hate him. And then they would tune in to watch him lose to Peter Jan. Or Peter.

However, Piotr, I think that's it. Whenever they did fight again. It'd be way better business, actually, for them to not. run that back. I don't like this guy. I personally don't care who he fights next because there's a long list of fighters I would sign up to see him fight. Alasemian Sterling has a lot of issues.

Both Yon and Sterling have a lot of issues with Cody Garberman too. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets thrown into this mix too. They both got issues with T.J. Delishaw. I think it's a little different. Like, T.J. issues with them is like, oh, you took steroids of this and that. Cody Garberant apparently said some things that Alasemayoran did not agree with. based off of his race and yon and we have that video of yon and uh garbrand this was apparently years ago and this is something that sterling has said well this is something that sterling has said so we don't

have any proof to back it up whatsoever so i'm just going off of and they might have made up in the future but sterling has said like i want to fight this man not just because i hate him and then we have the video of yon and garbrand getting each other's faces after yon decapitated his mentor in Uriah Favors' last fight anyway. I digress. I wouldn't hate seeing Yon Garbrandt though. Okay, I'll admit that. I wouldn't hate seeing Yon versus anyone in the top five.

Ben, way, it's awesome. Yeah, you should fight somebody ranked because he's literally never done that. The one ranked, or he has Alto, questionably ranked, and he's got a loss to Sterling. Oh, I forgot how he fought Jimmy Rivera five years ago. Hey, man. You're not wrong. And Yon's probably everyone's ducking him.

He's like, he's like, he's a champion. Nobody ducks a champion. They're all ducking him. I don't need to apply logic or reason to this. I'm not even convinced Puritan controls his social media. Is he been real? Probably not. Big if true.

Big of true. It's Charles Oliver, the odd man out for Matt Bradbury. Related to Ray Bradbury? I freaking hope so. With Benile and Tony booked. McNuggets versus Porier 3. Chandler versus Gatjean, RDA versus Makchev, are most likely going to happen

who will Oliver face since Dana is reluctant to give him a title shot, despite him being clear number one contender. Okay. Especially if Habib fights again. Was it stupid of him to not take the Diaz fight considering it's the best payday and biggest fight he can make? A few things to unpack. It's Tony versus Derry,

it's Tony versus Benil, high-range fighting against top billing. I don't think that is officially officially yet. it's Porrey versus McNuggets. Chandler Gaichi is an official RDA has already said he'll only fight Islam Makachev

if he gets Habib right after and Charles Olivera is apparently they're looking at Chandler versus Gaichy or Charles Olivera. So none of these fights are official official and there's a lot of hearsay but Jen, answer the last question was it stupid of Charles Olivera

not to take the supposed Nate Diaz fight? I mean, no. That's also, I just never believe that that was a real fight for him to take. I do believe the short notice Michael Chandler fight was like on the table and that's still not a no, he shouldn't have ever taken that fight. He's, Oliver is just going to be one of those dudes who has to sit around and wait for a

title shot because he'll get one if he just sits. Like he will just get one because of the nature of his run right now. So lightweight's a little hectic, a little cluttered unless he needs to fight because that's his job and he needs to make money, he should just hang tight because at some point in the next year he'll get called up for a title shot. Yeah, and the Diaz fight was only because I think Nate did an interview and he said he would fight Charles Oliver. Nate says a lot of things.

Yeah, but he also wanted it at a welterweight and Charles Oliverer said, no, I'm a lightweight contender. I don't want to go up and fight a welterweight. Which is fair. I mean, if that fight was on the table, I will say it's probably dumb because. because Charles was ever with the shit out of Nate Diaz. And so that up his profile a lot. And that would get him a title shot too, and he made a lot of money.

But I just don't believe. Nate Diaz saying I'll do something is by no means a barometer of truth. So I'm going to believe that that fight was never really on the table. Yeah, I agreed. There's a reason that our co-host Mike Heck or colleague Mike Heck uses Nate Diaz fights as his time stamps for MMA he goes the last time Leon Edd like Nate Diaz

has fought twice since Leon Edwards last fight there's a reason we use Nate Diaz as a like the hidden big foot of the MMA landscape anyway so yes all of these none of these fights are officially official yet but Tony versus Dale

Darius rules I think the most true part to this statement this question is the very the headline Charles Oliver is the odd man out I think whatever happens I that's unless some weird short notice like take a title fight within a week type of thing yeah he i don't i don't see anything for charles olivari he just doesn't move like he he has to unfortunately he is his prize fighting in the ufc he's got to he has to do something stupid like go to 170 fight nate diaz or take a short notice fight he has to unfortunately take a big

risk because just his personality alone won't isn't him his personality and him just dominating and kicking everyone's ass isn't enough for a title shot in the ufc and dana's already said he's he was interested in gaitchich olivera so if they want to make that fight too i'm fine with it justin gaiti's also had some heated words for charles oliver saying you've beaten nobody i already beat tony ferguson and then you beat him and you've not really fought anyone ranked you fought nick linch three times congratulations so greatest trilogy ever What? Ever?

Yeah, ever? Chad, can you name the two, can you name the three trilogies that have happened solely in the UFC and no fights have been for the title? Spencer Fisher and Tommy. Give me a second. I'll call him his name. Sam.

Sam, Sam Stout. Yeah. And Nick Lynch and Charles Oliver. There's one more. Oh, there's a third one. There's a third one. and the two men involved are so on another level of like they are very famous fighters I'll say

um trilogy that didn't have a title involved in you have to go to the dark ages of UFC and no I don't even think it's dark ages they're both very famous and none of the fights were for a title I had nothing uh Titor Ortiz and Forrest Griffin oh my I would have never

that never in a million years. So I always forget that they fought a third time. That was Forrest Griffin's last ever quite. I thought like the third was the most famous one. Because he took the mic away and interviewed the mic. I just, I always conflate that with the second one because they should have fought a third time. Wow.

Good trivia. Anyway, can you name, hold on, one more question for Jed? After Diego Sanchez retires, he's obviously the longest, 10th tough member in the UFC. After he retires, who becomes the longest 10th tough member? Ed Herman? Ed Herman was who I was going to say.

It is Ed Herman. Casey, we've asked this question to you before. That's why I knew, yes. I also said another question for Jed. Casey's just, you know, look at me. It is Ed Herman. To be fair, I was going to say Ed Herman, but that was entirely a guess.

Do you remember who was on his season of tough? didn't he end up losing to oh was Matt Brown on this season or is that a different one? No, that's what that was I think season six. He was on season three, I want to say. It would have been four because four was the tough champion. Redemption. Yeah.

Yeah, and then tough five was the lightweight one. So he was on season three. He lost to Kendall Grove. He lost to Kendall Grove. And he was on, do you remember who his coach was? Not clue. The coaches that season were Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock. He was on Team Shamrock.

The more you know. That I'm old. Shout out to Ed Herman. The only UFC fighter to make the jump over to strike force to fight Jacques Ray when they were trying to both cross-promotional fights. The only reason I was thinking about Ed Herman is because we were talking about Derek Brunson and Derek Brunson. Ed Herman was in that 4-KO streak that we were to.

talking about Brunson move wrong. Ed Herman was supposed to fight Derek Brunson in Phoenix, and then I think Derek Brunce fell out that, like, Ed Herman had his hands wrapped and ready to walk out. Something happened to him anyway. I got a lot of respect for Ed Herman because I think he's actually the slowest fighter who's ever competed in the UFC. Like he looks like he is walking through mud every time he moves,

and yet he has had a 15-year career. Sorry, he is on a three-fight win streak. in the year of our year of 2021. I know. Like I said, I have a lot of respect to Ed Herman because doing more with less is awesome in this sport. You love to see it. I think the 3-fight win streak is his longest win streak in the UFC too.

Anyway, Scott McCrae, Monster Energy, former photographer, corroborated Dominic Cruz's implications regarding Hans Mullen Camp yesterday. Do you think anything will come of this for Mollen Camp and or Monster Energy? So I can't remember the individual's name. Something Tate. He's a photographer.

He lives in California and he did a lot with Monster. Courtney Hindo. Yeah, the photographer. Corny Hendo. Yeah, Courtney Hendo. That's it. Why did I say? I don't remember.

Anyway, Jay, what are your thoughts on this whole Monster Energy, Dominic Cruz, Hans Mullen Camp situation? So I saw the story about Hindo doing like a takedown of Molling Camp. And I was going to click on it. And then I thought, I like myself. And I don't want to spend any amount of my time diving into this because I don't care. And that's where I sit on that part of it. If Dominic Cruz's allegations are true, I know Monster is looking into them.

I know Cruz has said he's spoken to, I think, like a junior VP or somebody in the exec committee for Monster and that they are taking his allegations seriously. I hope that they do because if it's what he says it is, that seems crappy. Rather than that, I just don't really care about this one. And maybe I should. Maybe I should care more, but I don't. So, yeah, I'll say that Mullen Camp seems like kind of a shady individual

in some of his postings and stuff. But that's entirely hearsay. And maybe he's a delightful person. Like, I have no clue. And I'm probably not going to spend too much time figuring it out. Casey, I'll frame it to you like this because Hans works and is around Southern California quite often. He's obviously done a lot with Strikeforce and Bellator and Scott Coker,

who you've worked hand in hand with. You're also married to a photographer that lives in Southern California. So I am sure you have been at least in the same circles as Hans Mollincamp or people that have dealt with Hans Mollincamp once or twice in their careers. Courtney Hendo is a photographer in Southwerex. Southern California too. So what's your take on this whole scenario? Give us the inside baseball, Casey.

First off, man, I love Dominic Cruz. He just had a good victory over a top-ranked prospect. And instead of coming out there in the mic and saying, you know, I'm ready for that title shot, I want to thank my coaches. I want to thank, you know, the man above. You know, I want to, you know, think my training partner is, nope. He just came out and just did this total deep cut. of this dude.

And when he did it, I swear, everyone, if you work, like you said, if you're in Southern California, you know Hans is. If you work with any fighters. I haven't met, I haven't talked to Hans in person probably years, but I definitely, like, one degree apart from him. And I thought he was just trolling him.

I thought this was like an inside viral marketing bit. So the whole time, but I was like, man, Dom Kru is like, he's a pretty cruel dude, but that was funny. But I really thought it was like a joke, but nope, nope, it's serious. And as far as I know with fighters, I mean, yeah, they always talk, you know, they post photos of Hans or the monster energy thing. And I kind of always thought it was kind of, you know, good fun. But apparently there was some, you know, some issues behind the scenes.

And like if what Courtney says is true and if Dom says it's true, that sucks. And I hope. Michael Bisbing has also come out and backed up Dominic Cruz's comments about it saying he lost his monster energy. sponsor because he said him he said him and Hans weren't friends they were business associates which apparently is a slight in this world and then of course Angela Hill backed

up Dominic Cruz but Domna Cruz is her teammate at Alliance so obviously she would take Dom's side but I think a few fighters now are coming out like well I mean yeah because well fighters don't want to come out because like they're sponsored by them so and they get like fighting don't pay

fighting doesn't pay very well sponsorship does pay pretty decent So don't get hit in the head for it too Yeah you don't get in the head for it and you know And if all you have to do it take some funny pictures With some monster employees every once in a while And hold some pads for them sure I think I think most of these fighters were kind of you know

Suck it up for you know that you know extra five 10 grand a month But uh yeah But I guess once I guess Dom makes enough money so he was he got tired of it I mean he just got tired of it and um And that's if that's if that's how Dom wants to use this platform you know, post a big victory on a, he was the main event on a giant pay-per-view, sorry, on the prelims, right?

He was the main event in the prelims for that paper-view. Yeah. So, no, in actuality, more people saw that than the actual, you know, the actual pay-per-view, probably. So I'm a crazy guy. That's my story. I have an important question.

Jose, are we friends or are we work colleagues? Ooh. Hot seat. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We are, would you consider Anderson, Silva, and Chale Sun and friends? Yes. Or are they rivals? I feel like they're friends.

There you go. We're friendly rivals. We are friendly rivals. We are the pound for pound. We are the pound for pound 1A, 1B of Between the Links. I'll take that. I'll accept those terms. Aw, you guys

Once you get off vaccinated You can give each other a big hug Seriously All right Dude dude Dude no one's gonna ask about eye pox How is this possible I thought that I know

No one's asked about it Here let me just Like Jeff really wants to talk about I pox I don't really want to I'm just prepared No Sorry

Is this one I pose Oh Here we go Oh here we go Because I'm sure Joe will have some thoughts about this MMG 2K20 on the site, cuddling the fence,

with USC 261 being held in front of a full capacity stadium of 15,000 fans. Are you surprised the UFC chose Usman v. Mosme, the headline, considering the fact that their first fight was not very fan-friendly. This fight could easily have both men cuddling on the fence for 25 minutes. Jed, your thoughts, you already said that you're not even interested in Usman v. Mazdaal because it's going to be the same thing for five more rounds of 5045. What are your thoughts on them? choosing this as the headline for the first full capacity fight in more than a year.

I think it's actually really smart. I'm not sure why they're doing Jacksonville and not Miami, because I'm sure that there's a reason, and I probably just didn't pay attention to it. But doing it in Florida is, you know, they get to have fans. Theoretically, you can drive some Osphidal base there. And ultimately, they don't really care if this fight is boring. The point of the fight is to be interesting,

before they step into the cage. And then it's just a bonus if Moss would all like cold coxswain. Other than that, they're just trying to get views up. I assume that the line of thought here is this is our first event with fans. We want to have a marquee headline that's going to get people interested. But even if it's not like the best fight, people are still going to leave satisfied because they got to go to a massive sporting event for the first time and over a year. So I think it's actually like really smart.

And if you go buy tickets to this, be prepared for 25 minutes of footstombs. I just looked it up. This will not be taking place in Miami. I'm assuming because the Miami Heat have a game that day at home. So that arena is already both in advance. That's a lot of sense. What is the, for the NBA right now, what is their audience as far as like, what's their capacity? How is it?

It's different team to team. Is the city the team of team? What controls it, you know? I assume a little bit of the city rule has to be. Local governance. But even if it's, even like for the NBA in Miami,

if they're allowed to have full capacity, I think it's up to the Miami heat are not allowing full capacity. So it's up to the team at that point. But they have the option of having a full capacity. So why are the NFL wanted, the NFL wanted, didn't the Texans have a full capacity? game or want to have a full capacity game.

And then, uh, wrestlingania is in Tampa this year. And they are going to have a lot of fans. I don't know if it's going to be full capacity, but that's what they want. Yeah. I bet it's full capacity. Um, actually,

I'm the one thing I thought the, the full capacity thing is really interesting to me because I keep thinking about the first fight and I really wonder how Usman Mazvedal won looks different with, you know, 20,000 fans booing for, basically 20 minutes of that fight. You know, since there was no booze, you know, during the actual fight, it was just, you know, empty arena. It felt difference, but I'm kind of, I'm kind of curious.

I want to, I want to see how, I want to see how, um, Lao, the, the, the, the, the, the, booze can come back, because I think that's what we're expecting for this main event. It was been strikes me as an individual who won't care much about fans billing. Yeah, it'll just make, it'll give. The narrative, but the narrative would be so different, though. I think, I just think that the narrative would be so different. Because it would be the first time hearing just so many booze for a main event in UFC. I think I haven't had.

Who is the most booed main event you can remember? It's Adisania Romero. Oh, yeah, that had to be bad. Is that pretty, yeah. That was pretty loud at times. Yeah. That fight was awesome. Yeah.

Oh, not main event, but Derek Luebush. Louis, Ilai Latifie had some loud booze when Heila was just holding him down. That's because that's like... Derek's in Houston. Yeah, Derek, yeah. Yeah, it was in Houston, the big knockout artist, Elon Adiifie was just laying on him, which is fine. I'm not knocking the guy for wanting, not, for choosing not to stand and strike with Derek Lewis. Anyway.

Oh, and just this, this commenters, his idea of cuddling is, that's, is wild because I can't imagine. Yeah. Which is a perfectly. legit technique and I'm always this isn't for today but like I'm always so confused of the whole no bizbing in DC you just got to win the fight winning is the most important thing oh don't win like that you know he got to win exciting though like uh it was mine did exactly we were supposed to in the first fight and I expect him to do the same in the second uh yeah wrong one oh you know what was the most booed main event in recent memory yeah ia rodriguez jeremy stevens in Mexico they were

literally throwing trash into the octagon. Oh, well, they were booing from excitement. Oh, Brian Ortega was saying. Brian Ortega said some very inappropriate things in Spanish, too, to add Jeremy's defense. But that was the whole crowd. Anyway, whiny welterweights from MMG 2K20. Okay, guys, since the top five,

welter weights were all holding out for a title shot versus Usman, and now Uzman booked against Manzell, how do we match up the rest of these divas? How about an old-school pro wrestling pete the clock challenge the quickest finish gets the next title shot. Wonder Boy, Kiyahsa, for the nicest motherfucker title. Edwards, Mohammed 2, Covington versus Burns. Jed, her thoughts on this beat the clock challenge.

I don't mind any of these matchups. The idea that Keesa can't fight for the nice motherfucker title. I mean, that's not a knock on Keaza. He's a good dude, but his last, like, two callouts, he's been talking mad shit to Kobe Covington. Like, he's even Wonderboy, even when he's calling out Covington is doing it, like the most respectful, happy way. Like, he's, he's not an MFF.

So, he just can't do that. Yeah, if they're having an MMS title at Welterway, it would probably be between Wonderboy and Belalemad. I think I get Maya in there. Yeah, I think Maya is the correct answer. Yeah. Unless you're Anderson Silva, but that's deep cuts. So other than these fights.

Playboy, your playboy. Yeah. Which is you get to now. Dude, none of these fights. fights are ending in a chaos, so this is a really bad clock. You're not wrong. That's a good point. I don't know, man.

I thought you don't think Edwards, if, you know, if that fight would have continued? I think he would have just been much better than Ballarm Muhammad's. Just much better. Yeah, I mean, the fight kind of was going, how I thought it was going till, no, obviously it ended, but I expected a kind of a dominant five-round decision from Edwards. Yeah. No, but can we, no one even talked about, like, talked about this, but I thought Leon Edwards looked freaking awesome round one. Yeah, dude, he looked really good. Huh?

He's a really good fighter. Yeah. I mean, like, I, like, I, like, I knew he was good, but like in my mind, I, I just couldn't remember his fights about, you know, going to a fight pass and watching all the old ones. I'm just trying to remember him, but like, I was like, dang, he's just, like, he just, you know, there are levels in this game. And, Bahamama is a really good fighter. And, but Leon Edwards looked like, like, like, like, an elite. ready for a championship fight but yeah

I would love to see one another word dream match for Usman pretty sure Usman wins but like that's the kind of that's the kind of actually like really good title fight that Mosvado can't give Usman like he just doesn't have that in him but we're not going to get it so I can get it is a shame John Malkin on Twitter is the main reason we are getting

Usman Mosval too because they will be getting money from a paying crowd y' up have any fighter's signal they aren't getting normal pay because of no fancies to choose from Dana. Not yet. And that would be bad business if they came out to the press and said, hey, I'm not getting paid enough because that never works out well for fighters. Yep. Yep.

I mean, I guess. You know, theoretically at this point, Conner could be getting a piece of the door. Like, I don't know that that's true. I don't know if you guys do but theoretically if I'm him I would be negotiating that so with the whatever

257 or whatever it was in January theoretically he lost money as a result of that but nobody's come out and said anything I think he made off pretty well I'm sure he did I think his disclosed purse is astronomically smaller

than what his actual purse is like it's in another hemisphere if Connor may get out well then the UFC made out much better than Connor, though. They always make out better. 100%. House always wins. Jessica Nappy, Crystal Crew.

Has she asked a question before? No. She's usually just childs of Crystal. She's always jibber jabbing in the comments, but look at this. Jibber jabbing. Yeah. What a word. Christopher, Jessica Napi, from the Crystal Crew, about 261.

Presumably most of the crowd won't be vaxed yet. But would you as media or fans want to go if they're fully vaxed, even though rest of crowd has, hasn't been. It would you feel different about the event altogether if they were requiring proof of Vax for crowd? So, Jed, we were talking online before we were talking over this before we went live. It's going to probably be one of us in Jacksonville, if not both. What are your thoughts on this full crowd capacity in the arena? I feel like it's a horrible idea. And that's, you're not, there's just not really going to change my mind. The idea is.

It would be cool if they required proof of vaccination, but that's not realistic. Yeah, as a medium member, it feels a little different because you can isolate much better than you can as like a fan. So, like, that's why I'm not, it's not like a big concern for me to go or whatever. I feel like I can do take the necessary steps to be relatively safe. But, yeah, there's a zero percent chance I would go to this if I was just like a fan in Jacksonville. Oh, hell no. even when i went to jacksville in was it last may for the like those that the first string of pandemic fights downtown jacksonville for whatever you want to call downtown jacksonville was just everything was closed still so i don't know what the vibe would be like in jacksonville with it open i don't know how many people are walking around because there was i had no way to know uh and even the places that were open all the food was to go you couldn't sit down and eat yet still because it was still very early on in the pandemic So I have no idea.

But like Jed said, and Casey's, obviously, you know, too. When you go to fights, you can sit in a media room. I can confidently say if Jacksonville is wide open and there's no actual bubble, because I would imagine there'd be a bubble. Because the last time I went to fight island, Abu Dhabi was open, but we were still put in a bubble because they didn't want fighters to get COVID. If there's no bubble, I'm not going to leave the hotel. I got that as my own choice.

I don't know if the UFC is going to book the entire hotel. I have no idea. Jacksonville in general. Like, it's just not. I mean, I was going to say that I'd say, like, there's two things, there's a few things in Jacksonville. There's a lot of bridges. And there's knives everywhere.

I found a box of knives under an overpass in Jacksonville. I mean, just like Chicago is known for the soup. Jacksonville is known for bridges and knives. Yeah, as you do. It really does have a lot of bridges. Oh, man. Like, when I, the hotel we stayed at, I could look in any. direction and see a different toll bridge or what do you call it the drawbridge what are the bridges

yeah sure what i'm not draw bridge that's the word yeah drow bridge talk i love it bridges so i went to uGA as you guys know and every year the georgia football Georgia florida game takes place in jacksville world's largest outdoor cocktail party and it's just not a great city like it's not a bad city but all of my thoughts about it are really grimy. So staying in the hotel is a good call. I would say that with anywhere in Florida, really. I'd be Florida fan. You know, it was born in Jacksonville.

It's born in Jacksonville. That makes a lot of sense. I lived there for a few years as a kid, and then I spent my summers in Daytona, which is a few hours south. So I'm... What's somehow an even worse location than Jacksonville? Yeah, I know Central Florida.

So, yeah. I'm also I'm very southern. To be fair, that was like 80 years ago, so the city's not the city. Everything was good in Florida 80 years ago, Central Florida. That was the place to be. You guys are jerks. But you know what, but just heads up, if you guys are going, I'm really, I'm kind of surprised you if he hasn't talked about this yet. But how are they going to handle like weigh-ins and things like that?

because like are wayans going to be like the old wayans because you talk about you know you can kind of media can kind of separate themselves from the big crowds but not during wayans you kind of the media is basically sitting with the fans and um so um yeah i i don't i i haven't i i keep asking i just i just i'm not even i'm because i know full capacity events are coming i just thought they were coming more toward um say um into the summer so i just thought this was super soon but have there been any like like CDC or any like any no disease experts that say oh we're good to go now I I don't I would be extremely doubtful because there was some of the other statements that have been made yeah because everything I'm reading is like just the opposite like oh we're almost we almost got it guys but if we if we f up now we kind of have to start all over again though so yay oh man I'm I can't get into this right now. I'm surprised Dana is going after. I thought for sure he would try to get this last pay-per-view in

because he forever was like, we're going to be the first, we're going to be the first. Now, WrestleMania is the week before. So, WWU will be the first. And that's going to be full capacity? That's our...

I don't, there's like at least 20,000 people the last I heard that are going on. This has to be the biggest for an indoor venue. Is Tampa going to be outdoor? Probably. Yeah, it's at the Buccaneers Stadium. Okay, which is not a dome, though.

I don't know what the Buccaneers playing. No. Okay. I just found out the, I just found out Tampa Bay has a football team like last year. I didn't even know this. That's Super Bowl champions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, that's what I mean. I just opened up, you know, my liberal website I go to or whatever,

liberal news.com and then like Tampa Bay's got a football team was the headline. A good one. Good one. I have a good point. Casey stopped watching football when the great Vince Lombardi retired. When the Oilers became the Titans. But they were the Tennessee Oilers for a season, I think. And then I was kind of into them, but no.

And I gave up. Reaction to the Fight Circus News from Susanna Fights on Twitter. What fight circus news? They have a third event. It's called Fisting for Dollars. and think April they dropped a promo yesterday hold on hold on

hold on a lot hold on what is the name of it fisting for dollars I asked John Nutt why they named it that John Nut that like maestro the whole thing as you too I don't know who John is so yeah John nut is like the maestro fight circus or whatever the full meta dojo guy and I was like

came in, why didn't you name this? Because I thought they did like fight circus and then fight circus too was circus harder. And so then I thought they'd be like fight circus with a vengeance or something along those lines. And then they came out with fisting for dollars and he was just like, we just

thought it was funny. He's not all the way wrong. So is it going to be a cowboy themed fight somewhere in there right? Because I'm sure they're using my mom. I'll headbut fight. I think. So so there's

I'm not entirely sure how much of this is like promo versus how it'll actually be because it was made unclear in the promo, but they had a wheel of violence and it just had like different fight outcomes and they would spin it. And on that, there wasn't all headbutts fight, which I'm obviously extremely psyched for. But yeah, I just imagine you're going to get a lot of the traditional fight circus fair, some some tag two on one matches, some Indian leg wrestling. kicking only fights. A lot of great quality family fun entertainment. A guest appearance from Peter Yon? No, the guest appearance will be from Bob Sapp. That's almost guaranteed.

I would love a fight if it's spin and each fighter gets one set of tools to use. Like if I fuck Jed and Jed can only throw left hooks and I can only throw leg kicks. I would do that immediately. the funniest thing in the world. Right. I don't want two guys throwing headbuts.

I want one guy throwing headbuts and one guy only can throw front body kicks. I'm for this. I'll talk to John. I'll talk to John, he says. If it's if they're mocking fistful

of dollars, I expect some sort of fight with men in cowboy outfits. Like, full on spurs and everything. They should. Let me answer that one. Can we answer this one? yes yeah we did

oh yeah we did oh yeah we did oh here's a story UFC's thought process another novel from Tristan Gordette thoughts on A. Kaley's store of the Korean zombie

considering moving up to the lightweight due to inactivity was entering is that interesting is that the UFC won't allow Sung Jung I've never heard anyone referred to the Korean zombie

as Sung Jung before that called me off guard to fight anyone outside the top top 10 in rankings what's your theories on the UFC's thought process here I mean they could could have matched them up against Jeremy Stevens,

but he's finding Joucar Close or Shane Burgos, but decided to match him up against Barbosa. Not going to lie, I think Barbosa versus Chan Sun Jung would have been insane. Most likely it looks like Korean Zombie will match up against Dan Yegay, since I.EG called him out after his fight against Tucker and his ranked eighth in the division. It's a lot to unpack, but thought process on Korean Zombie

not being able to find a fight and debating moving up to Lightway, Jed. It's super weird because, you, You should just let that dude fight as often as he wants. We already got several of his prime years taken away from us. So if he wants to fight every other weekend, it's not like he's boring. Like, let that man go. So Olavera would have been dope. Like, the Dan Igay fight will be dope.

Like, you can't go wrong with the Korean zombie fight. So the original, like, hardcore action fighter. There was a stretch of time where I think it's Justin Gaci, like, recently. I think you could put on that same pedestal, but there was a point in time where I think the Korean Zombie was the most exciting fight in the history of MMA. He had a fight of the year against Leonard Garcia,

got head kicked by George Roops, still a crazy fight until he got head kicked. First Twister submission of the year. Knocks out Mark Harmonic in seven seconds in Canada. Has another fight of the year against my favorite fight ever, Korean Zombie versus Dustin Porier. And he gets a flyer.

knee into a dars choke off the fence and then he tries to and then he fights aldo on like short notice and tries to push his arm back in the place in the middle of the fight i think there was a point in time where i still think that stretch of time before his like that two-year stretch before he went off to do his military thing there's never been a more excited fighter in m mary street than the korean zombie right there i would argue that point just because i think gaichi now or like gaiji yeah that's two years ago was a more i was i was going to say for some For someone with, let's go 10 fights in the UFC. If someone with 10 fights, which Korean zombie has, minute for a minute, he's the most exciting fighter. Him or Gage? No, 10 or Gage. Is Gajji that 10 fights in the UFC?

I think if it's, it might be right at 10. Okay, well, okay, regardless. I think, yeah, both those guys are like kind of 1A and 1B, you know, as far as, like, just pure excitement. Yeah. Tony is another one, too. Who? Tony.

he's been in some like outside of that charlesa la vera fight lately he's been in some bangers tony uh i the reality is connor is that like if you take all the outside of cage stuff like connor's in cage product is that i mean right there you're talking about four of the eight most exciting fighters ever like going robbie luller and who else could make that i mean yeah but that's that's my stance actually i was going to i was going to say if we're going if we're going to be second for second just action win or lose i would say actually say ronairousey because remember when there was zero like downtime even in her losses yeah you're like what is going to happen here like she could win he's already more entertaining in her losses

because she just runs on the right hand yeah uh justin gaugest had eight ufc fights okay um but he's not had any east fights at all no he said he also before Habib he had I guess seven fights right he had nine bonuses in seven fights yeah that's

that is yeah that's nuts yeah and and they weren't like legit they weren't like kind of like BS you know you know I mean like they gave a lot of BS ones like every single one he got was legit in in 2000

2017 he had yeah he had Michael Johnson Eddie Alvers back to back like which fight is better. Yeah. They're both crazy. And then the next one

was doesn't pour you. And that's another way here. And then what did he do to that? He just rattled off a couple of knockout victories and all in the span of like one round. Dude's a monster. Shout to Safford, shout out to Safford, Arizona.

Jed's hair be giving me Bon Jovi's vibes. Wow. That is a compliment. Is that a compliment? Yeah, man. I'm sure. I want it.

Casey, what was it like watching Bon Jovi live the first time ever in 1971? I wasn't into, I'm not into hair metal. Hair metal, come on, man. Yeah, you're not into hair metal now, but obviously when everyone else in your college years back in the 60s were getting into it, you probably got into it too. I was listening to Hawkwind, you know, like a Prague rock, you know, man. Don't. Hair metal, come on, man.

Were you one of those guys that stand? stayed up late to watch the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show? Not a Beatles fan. Oh, come on. I'm not... I go stones over Beatles any day. Stones put out way too much crap. Casey's not a Beatles fan because he remembers when they broke onto the scene in America

and kind of took over the airwaves and he got a little burnt out of it. Kind of like how we don't really get into a lot of the pop now. Casey felt that way when the Beatles first broke in. Okay. I can see that. I'll accept that. Are we really not going to talk about this iPop? We didn't get one question for my book.

All right. Someone asked us about the iPop. From Joseph Boza in the YouTube comments, I see you right now. Fans were pissed about Leon versus Bilal ended in no contest. Leon should have been disqualified. Why did fans want Balal to win by disqualification? We're going to use this to talk about the iPok. Jed, a few questions.

First, initial thoughts on the iPok. second, should this have ended in a disqualification? 100% it should have ended in a disqualification. Like, this is, I'm excited because I'm pretty sure Casey doesn't agree with me on this. And I'm very excited to have this discussion because, like, dude, you're in charge of your weapons. Like, what is the point of having rules if they're not enforced? Like, in any other sport, if you, it doesn't matter whether you intentionally foul somebody or not. if you clock somebody while they're going to the wreck you get penalized for it but there's different penalties though

that's the thing what how was leon edwards penalized like two men ended he he lost half his check two men went into that kid you know who else lost half his check blow mohammed two way you wasn't getting that other check in the that fight continued what one of them did nothing wrong though and the outcome is the same for both like that's just insanely dumb like you if you commit a foul that ends the fight, intentional or not, you should be disqualified. In the same way that you commit a foul, intentional or not, if the fight continues, you should have a point deducted from you. Like, you just don't have to foul somebody.

And we can talk about the gloves. And sure, enough people say it, I'm confident that the gloves aren't optimal. But, like, the gloves aren't the reason Leon Edwards gouged an eye. Like he put his hand out like this. And Muhammad, and Muhammad is coming in, and that's what happens in this sport. It's like,

it's just unfortunate because they make the stupid gloves that are basically like they're, that's why they have to break him in because the hands naturally stick out. Any other way. Like, he's in charge of his weapons.

Like, you know what you can do? You can not extend your fingers into a dude's eye. It doesn't, if that was made like an automatic loss, fighters would be way better about it, almost immediately and in like a year nobody would do it. But it's not.

And the worst case of scenarios, he's going to get a no contest, which just sucks for Balal Muhammad. Like it sucks for Leon Edwards, too. I'm not saying that this is a good outcome for him. But Leon Edwards did something wrong. Belal Muhammad did nothing wrong. And they are both treated exactly the same as a result of this. And that's just trash.

I think, I think, accidental strike. Dude, if we're, if we're at a red light and you accidentally. step on the gas and rear in me, it's still your fault. But it's not murder. It's not murder. I don't go to jail for it. No. But you have to pay the damages for what happened.

Like Leon Edwards doesn't. The damage costs were split by him for Allah Muhammad. It's just like it makes no sense to me why fouling isn't like it isn't a disqualification. And then like it's still the same crap. The fight's over though. I mean, that's, I mean, I mean, I mean, I, I mean. I mean, that's why I hate the show win, the show, the show, the show win thing, because now, you know what the big winner was? The UFC, they saved a bunch of money.

I agree. The show win bonus is really dumb. I think, I think that is a giant, bigger, even just as much of an issue. Is that the only reason we care about the DQ thing? No, I think no context should never exist. Like, a no contest should be restricted to, like, after the fact the outcome got overturned because of a drug test or whatever, or, like, a fan. and hops the fence and knocked out the wall and Mohammed. Then that's a no contest.

But a contest happened. One dude cheated and then they were just saying, I'm not, call it a wash. I don't think it's a cheat. I don't think it's cheating. I do want to point out. I do, I do want to. There's accidental fouls.

That's why we have the word accidental. Jed's reasoning of whether it's a disqualification or not, if they were more, like, who was Algebra and Sterling? Sterling said it. I was at Al-Derman Sterling because he wanted rules more. He wants the penalty to be an actual thing because if you're not going to get a point taken away for a low blow, why wouldn't anyone just run across the cage and just kick you in the junk immediately?

Well, I've always said that. Just going to get a warning. I've always said it. Right. Yeah. So whether I don't know, I don't care if it's disqualification or not because rules are rules. There should at least be a point deduction.

Yeah, the point. Well, that's the thing. You've got to get rid of logic through. Because if there's a point deduction in the fight, when the fight continues, then it wouldn't make sense for that to oh the fight doesn't continue no contest like one dude did something wrong and one dude didn't it's super crystal clear to me i think it just it also matters like because if not we've seen a million i pokes they don't more often than not don't end the fight uh it's an i poke and you can keep fighting then yeah take the point away for the first defense because then it

won't second time take another point third time that's a wrap uh but i don't like set like Herb Dean warns a lot, but doesn't do anything. Who's the ref that took away a point immediately? He's been doing him more. Maybe it might have been Mark Smith, but I don't know. But the point you're talking about the lady that fought Martanaoza. Yeah, I can't remember. Which I disagree.

I thought that that fight has just been reset in that position. For like a fence grab like that, you just reset them, like where they would have gone down. And then no point deducts. I mean, for the fence grab. I know that now we're talking about fence grabs. There's something different. No, but I agree with that because fens grabs don't compromise the other fighter. It compromises position, so you just give the position up.

Like, I'm 100% on ball with you on that one. I think the big problem is the penalty, though. One point is so freaking gigantic in this sport. It's so, especially in a three-round fight. Well, that was three-round fight, but you get a point. I just wish, I really just wish there were half-point deductions. But if we're enforcing that unilaterally, then I think it minimizes that being big anyway.

and also just don't do it. You don't have, you don't have to. It is, it is impossible. It is like, I pox happen all the freaking, I think most I pox, like fighters go right, fight right through them. He fought 29 times. He never committed a foul. That's why, at way, he's the greatest fighter. That's why Leon Edwards isn't a pound for pound great.

Okay, be better. I demand. It won't be as good as Habib never can make it, Habib. I haven't said his name in a while. I forgot to say that I would say his dang name. But there are dozens, hundreds, thousands of fighters who don't poke people in the eye. Like, I know that you want to gauge your range like this. Just don't do it or live with the consequences, man.

Same with Peter John's knee. Like. And he has. He got decued. I know. And that was a way. That was the punishment. That was the punishment.

So should Bahal be like ranked higher than Leon Edwards now? Should he go up in the rankings now? Because he got the, he got the, he should have gotten a just win because he didn't cheat. It ain't cheating. It ain't cheating. I mean, if you consider cheating a spectrum, it's certainly closer to cheating than it is to being good. He committed an illegal act. But just the thing about fights would have been like just the landscape of MMA history, even recent UFC history, if we just fights ended on eye pokes like that or I don't know, just point.

deduction. I think back of Stepea, DC when the eye poke that wasn't seen and the DC steep A3. You know how the, the ref didn't believe DC got poked in the eye when he clearly did and how it just totally changed the fight. I don't know. It's like I'm kind of going back in history a little bit, but it's just, it's, it's, I'm still upset about that. Like you as we all should be, but like, I just think if you do this, I poke's like all fouls drop dramatically. If first defense isn't as a point and if the fight can't continue, then you get a loss. Like, I think fighters will just have to immediately be like, oh, I need to actually be aware of the weapons I'm choosing to employ and how I use them. Cool. Got it.

I know a lot of commissions and promoters are afraid if we start doing that, like automatic point deductions, then basically they feel. Same reason like they're afraid of open scoring, you know, because like, well, people are going to coast? Is like, are people going to fake injuries, fake like groin shots, fake like eye pokes to get that point, you know? So I mean, I think that argument has always seemed weird to me because the inverse works correctly as well. Like, well, our fighter's just going to poke people in the eyes because they don't get penalized for it. And I'm not sure that that's what we see happening. But there are some particular fighters who sure do seem to make a habit of digging their fingers. into people's eyes.

So I'm not willing to say that they aren't making a conscious choice to say, yeah, I'm not trying to poke them in the eye, but if I do, I get a benefit and I'm not going to get penalized for it. Like, you just got to trust that the referee can do their job. Which that's a big leap of faith

with some people certain things. I just think the penalties are too harsh. That's why they want to do it because we don't have, like in football, you have a five-year penalty, 20-yard penalty, I don't know, whatever, 15-yard penalty, you know, a full 40-yard penalty for pass interference. You know, you have different penalties, you know, but there's only one penalty, I guess two penalties, DQ and point off. I really wish there were half points.

Like if Dion did that first, I poke and the ref conceded that it was a reckless eye poke. Because the problem is there are legit accidental eyepokes where, like, fighters are moving in. Accidental groin shots. There's completely accidental groin shots. There's completely accidental, like, illegal shots all the time. because the fighters are moving when the strike is thrown. You can't hit a fighter after the bell. The intent was to throw a strike,

that that strike landed illegally. I know that their intent was not to throw an illegal strike, but the intent was there to throw the strike. If Leon Edwards tripped on the canvas and when he flailed his arm now, jabbed a finger into Blah Muhammad's eye, sure, that's unintentional. But he didn't.

He reached his hand out, and it happened to poke him in the eye. Like, you got to be. be responsible for your weapons my dude like that's it now is the second eye poke too right in that fight yeah because he got warned in the first round yeah moral

of the story for the next fight circus eye pokes and low blows only fight let's make it happen low blows only that's that's the sport of kings right there one fight oh wait you need to see that way wait oh like you're not man enough to lose an eye here's one

one fighter gets kicked in the junk right away the other fight gets poked in the eye, the winner determines which fight turns into a DQ from that point on. We just settle it there. Which ending is a disqualification? Eye pokes or low blows,

we have a perfect way to figure out which one is more debilitating. You guys are sick. You guys are sick of us. That's maybe the smartest thing you've ever said. That is the worst thing I've ever heard in my life. Well, you don't have to fight in the fight circus. Spice too hard.

Yeah. Pisting for dollars, guys. for dollars. Anyway, we've gone 30 minutes over. We had any more questions, Casey? Hell no. Hell no. We've talked a lot. It's been a joy to watch Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless yell at each other over eye pokes on the show right now. Who's who? Either way, I'm going to be offended. Anyway, moving on. We are, I'm Jose Young's. Jed, of course, what do you want to say before we sign off from the A side of the school? I think we all know who's Stephen A and who's Skip here.

other than that, I got nothing. Thanks for having me on. It was a blast. Casey, are you Stephen A or Skip? Blasphemy. Is that what he says? That's not enough syllables. Blasimissimus.

You got to make up words and use some tomfoolery. Oh, no, you know what you have to say? He gave up. He gave up. No. If you're Stephen A, if you're Stephen A, you have to say, I just spoke with Leon Edwards yesterday for 42. two minutes. We're very good friends.

Then you, if you start off your sentences like that, you're Stephen A all the way. Anyway, I've been Jose. That's Jed. That's Casey. We'll be back normal time next week. Hopefully, I'll be in Las Vegas for UFC 260. 260. We're out. UFC 260?

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