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because and i keep hitting my microphone sorry guys uh there you know it's a new day i just got back
A man a few days ago, my brain was a little fried.
But we're powering through.
But as you can see, the man to my left, I think you're right.
Yes, my left, you're right, is Pizza Carol.
Pizzi, what's up?
Does this work?
A boy turning around like this, and I pretend we're in the same room.
And I'm like, yeah, I agree with you, Jose.
Does that work?
Am I doing it right?
I don't hate it.
I don't hate it.
Yeah.
We can pretend we're in the same room.
That's what I like about this.
Because it's miserable in Ireland.
The other thing to be in Arizona.
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There's a heat wave going on in Arizona right now.
Yesterday was 115 degrees.
So nice.
Cozy.
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I walked out to the gas station and I lost like 10 pounds walking like half a block.
My boyd should move there if that's the case.
You know what I mean?
Hey, you know who lives here?
Get compared to do all those camps over there.
Henry Suhudo trains here.
Paolo Costa trance here.
The Pitbull Brothers train here.
So Arizona is running through things.
But as always, this is.
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So we're going to start right off the bat.
Pizzi.
Reyes v. Wyman.
Five rounds in Boston.
Title implications from our friend, LFNWA.
I'm from the Boston area, and I've got to say, I am not stoked on this fight at all.
I believe Zabit versus Kater should be the main event.
Weidman has one victory in two years and only two victories in four years, and every loss he has, he's been finished.
IDK, if you've seen it, IDK, if you've seen it on social media, but dude is fat now.
That's not very nice.
Clearly been enjoying his time away from the sport, neither here nor there.
The light heavyweight division is still remarkably shout so much so,
that Ray's is talking about getting a title shot off a victory from Wyden.
Wyden, of course, talking about his past delusions of grandeur
and trying to insert himself into fight talks with Boss Jones.
Clear this up for me.
Why is this a good fight slash main event worthy?
And are there really title implications on the line?
So, I don't know if you saw PTC, but Dominic Ray's,
backstage at UFC 241 in Anaheim as one of those guest fighters.
And he dropped more than a couple hints that him and the UFC have some sort of agreement
that if he does beat Chris Wideman and in the main event at UFC Boston, he basically said
he was getting a title shot without saying those exact words.
And we would try and impress him and he would just be, he would just kind of like next question,
move on, this and that.
But he dropped many a hint.
Someone presented, I know you're going to bring his name up.
Someone presented the possibility of Johnny.
Walker possibly leapfrogging Dominic Gray's with a win at Match Square Guarded and
Dominic Gray seems kind of taken aback he's like what you mean he's gonna leapfought me
like I'm higher ranked I'm gonna beat a former champion this and that so what is your
take on Dominic Gray's fight against Chris Wyden is it a good main event and does he
deserve a title shot off a win over Chris Wyman I guess they have to present the
illusion of their massive consequences if they are gonna make it a main event right
like they need to portray that this is a massively important point
But I really felt as though, and you already said,
I really felt as though Anderson and Walker was going to determine the next guy.
Reyes has been on a great run.
There's no doubt about that.
But he didn't exactly set the world on fire with that Volcan Osnimir win.
Like that wasn't a terribly eventful fight.
That's his last win.
He's on a, like, I mean, there'll be six straight wins in the UFC if he beats Weidman,
which is very impressive.
And we also have to remember, like, what is Weidman?
He's a former middleweight champion.
When we had Luke Rockhold make the jump up,
it seemed like everybody was immediately happy with
if he beats Jan Blackovich,
he's going to go straight into a title kind of situation with Jones.
So, yeah, okay, Chris Boydman hasn't had the best run of late,
but he's still a former champion.
And realistically, there isn't any valid kind of counterparts
for Jones in that title conversation at the moment.
So it certainly seems as though the winner of either Reyes v. White,
or Walker v. Anderson will be his next point.
And I mean, who else should be screaming from the rafters and saying, like,
oh, this guy should get in because I don't see it.
Why not have these two?
I think the only thing, and this other name was presented to Dominic Gray's,
and he didn't seem too concerned about it, is possibly Jan Blahovic,
who just knocked out Luke Rockhold, who Tiago Santos had beat to get the fight against John Jones.
When that name was presented with Dominic Gray's, he said that one was fine
because John wants to fight in December.
and Dominic Reyes' his fight is in October, so he would only have to wait a month or so to see how that plays out.
So then John Jones, or the winner of that fight, and Dominic Reyes would essentially be on the same timeline.
So he goes, my next fight after Chris Wyden is going to be for the title.
If he wants to defend it around when I'm fighting, that's fine, because I already have a fight booked.
So he didn't really seem to mind if Jan got the next fight, and then he fight the winner of that fight, just simply because they would all be on the same timeline.
But again, Johnny Walker would have the same thing.
Or Corey Anderson.
If Cory Anderson goes out there and beats Johnny Walker, why wouldn't he get a title fight?
I mean, he seems to be kind of picking at John Jones on social media.
So I think the Luke Rockhold thing was a little interesting, simply because of the history
with Luke Rockhold and Daniel Corme and Daniel Corme and John Jones was like that, that built-in storyline.
But Dominic Gray seems to, he drops many a hint that his next fight would be a title fight if he beats Chris Wyman.
And he also said he had no idea Chris Wyman would even be it possible.
possibility. Yeah, well, I mean, like, if Blackovich is a valid option here, Reyes has to be.
Blackovich is on a one-fight win streak. He was coming off a loss of Tiago Santos. I mean,
like, if we're okay with Jan, we've got to be okay with either Reyes and Walker and Anderson.
So, yeah, I feel like it's just a very 10 division. A win is huge. If you can get a win over a ranked
opponent at Loy Heavyweight, you're right into that conversation. So, I mean, that's just the
situation we're in. And personally, I wouldn't even mind if they did go with Reyes, Blackovich,
and left Walker kind of simmering in the background. Because one thing we haven't seen for a while
is, especially at Lloyd Heavyweight, is a guy just running through people and everybody going,
when is he going to fight for the title? When is he going, you know, and getting that excitement
onto another level. So when it eventually happens, I'm like, yes, here it is. Because I can't see
many of them fights now for John Jones. Like Santos, after the fact, in hindsight, it was tremendous.
There's no one going, oh, Jesus Christ, this is it.
This is Jones' biggest test ever.
It was, but it didn't have that buildup.
It didn't have that anticipation.
And maybe if they left Johnny Walker and let him continue to fight his way to the top of the division,
it would kind of generate that kind of real, you know, huge anticipation of the fan base.
I agree 100%.
I mean, I was talking to Casey Lydon, our cameraman, and he compared Johnny Walker's rise to France and Ghanes,
where he kind of kicks the door and finished all of these fighters in tremendous.
violent quick fashion and then he got that title fight and he clearly wasn't ready for it and then he goes back to
the drawboard and now he's in my opinion the number one tender headway but then at the flip side
I don't want to see another brandon thatch where he comes in with all this fanfare gets back-to-back knockouts and then falls to
benson and henderson right away and never really recovers I believe he lost to uh gunner nelson on that
u.sc 189 card so it's we've seen that hope to submission yeah that's right it's uh we've seen a lot of
prospects come and rise through the ranks and then fall short.
But Johnny Walker, like, a win over Kalilowalry is no joke.
A win over Misha Sarkinoff is no joke.
So he's not beating other prospects.
He's beating these guys who have been in the Octagon for a while.
Well, what about the fact that if Walker beats Anderson?
For me, that's a bigger win.
I agree with him.
A hundred percent.
The only thing is Dominic Ray has made, like, I think, again, it really depends on how it plays out.
Like, if Dominic Ray is.
And Anderson beating Walker is a bigger win than either direction there as well, be honest.
I agree.
If I'm John Jones, I probably, I would, and this is the scenario I have in my head.
I probably fight beyond Blakovitz in December, and then either one of the winners of those
two fights, the Walker, Anderson, or Ray as Widman, like those four would be on my timeline
now.
So maybe I fight Blakovits first and then watch those two fights and fight the winner, one of the
winners of those two.
just be i don't know when maybe march he seems to like fighting in march or april or
something i think depends on where it would be or who knows but i think if i'm the ufc and john
jones i kind of have that situation play out yeah yeah no that's fair enough moving
i think you can soiously answer that question there just to say just to give ourselves a pat on
the back there i think we we did well there yeah you're welcome you're welcome ufc but moving on
from another question from m lfn wa and again you can ask these questions of the comment
section and the ones that are green and highlighted with the most recommendations get priority.
Doesn't mean they're going to get asked, but I'll look at them first.
Habib's stardom, stretching him two things, I think Dustin will beat Habib.
Hard to believe we're only 17 days away now from the title clash of Abu Dhabi.
Seems to be flying under the radar, even with all of the traveling, oligarch smoothing,
and baby kissing Habib has been doing.
In interviews leading up to this fight, Habib said the Poré matchup doesn't motivate him,
that he doesn't see any real challenge or peaks to climb in the sport.
What do you make of Dustin's chances?
I don't believe Habib W is a foregone conclusion.
I think that, like, and I really like that Dustin Porreous chances here.
Okay.
Do you feel a change in the now championship Habib's mentality?
But, Pizza, you're going to be at Abu Dhabi, correct?
So I would love to get your thoughts on this,
especially because Habib does have ties to someone that, from your neck of the woods,
has Habib's stardom stretching too thin?
Do you feel like it's hard to compare his last bite against Connor McGregor?
to this because any any fight conrogergen is going to be the biggest thing happening in combat sports
but what do you make of the build up to this fight is it actually flying under the radar
no well look last one i was on this uh i believe we're talking about how it appeared as though
natea as his return was floating under the radar but we knew on fight week once that got kicked
off it would he'd blow the doors off it and that's the same way as i feel this is just the way
MMA is too much is happening on a weekly basis for people to kind of, you know, focus in on this
car that's happening down the line and stuff like this. It all happens too quickly. And so look at what
an idea is it there. It's the most viral weekend, I think, all year in the UFC. So, I mean,
I do feel as though the Abu Dhabi event is going to put Khab on a different pedestal. It's going to be
almost like, I really believe this. I think it's going to be the closest he will get to something like
Connor fighting in Dublin, Till fight in the UK.
I spoke to Nazarad Hakirass,
who his parents were born quite close to Abu Dhabi.
They were born in Afghanistan.
And he said, he's a Muslim man himself.
And he was telling me, like, the interest that Khabib has stimulated
in that part of the world is unbelievable.
And he goes, he's going to really look like a superstar over there.
Like, this is the closest we're going to see to Khab compete on home terrain
just due to support he's getting.
And I think it's huge.
I think that's going to be a massive obstacle for Justin.
Do I think Dustin is amazing fighter?
Yes.
Do I think it's style suits Khabibab a lot?
Yes.
I don't think, you know, I think it's a very serious challenge,
but I disagree in that I do feel as though Kavibu will get the win that night.
Yeah, and I don't know.
It's hard to say if it's flying under the radar simply because, like,
is it different starting time?
Do I remember that correctly?
Yeah.
So I think it's going to start like 2 p.m.
East Coast.
Oh, wow.
Oh, wow.
So I don't hate that at all.
But, yeah, it's like, I think the KOMA,
like, that UFC 229 card was so massive in terms of the Komenade
too, because you had Tony Ferguson, Anthony Pettis on the card.
You had, like, the Michelle Waters and Police Higate,
and Derek Lewis on that card.
There were a lot of really high-quality fights on that part as a whole,
and then the main event just happened to have Conradar and Khabib
in the most hyped fight in UC history.
What's the Kulman event for 22?
at the moment. Is it the Curtis Blades fight?
Oh, really? That's the coming
event. I actually really like that fight.
But it just feels like...
You're right, though. It's a light card.
There isn't fights from the main character
off that you're going, oh my God, I can't wait to see this.
It isn't one of those. I do agree with you there.
Yeah, so it's...
I don't know.
Obviously, I think it's one of these fights that the main events is the selling one.
It's Habib and Dustin is the biggest fight on the card.
Obviously, I think that could be one of the best lightweight fights, like, competitively,
who we've seen in a very, very long time.
I think outside of Habib versus Tony, I think Habib versus Dustin would be the fight I would most want to see,
especially because of Dustin's run through the division.
I mean, you and I had this conversation a few weeks ago where if Dustin Porte did win,
is this the greatest stretch of victories in lightweight history?
And we both agree that if it's not the greatest, it's way up there.
But you have to beat Habib Nirmik Mavah first, but Habe doesn't seem like you're at the press,
correct the first one yes and he did say like this isn't a big money fight for me like the only reason
i'm fighting him is because he has an interim title so it's uh if he's not selling is is habibs not
name big enough to sell a pay-per-view if he's not talking if he doesn't have bad blow with his
opponent i think yeah i do i do believe on the back of the the mcgregor thing and with that
it's still quite a similar in the background i guess and even though connor doesn't look like he's anywhere near
a fight conversation at the moment.
But I do feel as though
on the night, it will look huge.
And the one thing I took from Kabe
at that London press conference was
he really has that championship aura about him.
Like I can remember seeing
Aldo at the peak of his powers of Fedderweight
and noticing that kind of regal
horror they give off.
Joanna, when she'd just been crowned, Strawway Queen,
you know, Connor, and when he
got the belt and when he had the 55 belt,
he was just, he gave off,
he exuded this kind of aura.
I think that's where Khabib is at the moment.
And I found it interesting, like, you know, as much as he does respect us.
And, like, he was kind of saying, like, you know, look what Johnson did to this guy, Michael Johnson.
And look how I did to Michael Johnson.
You know, like, and, you know, when you break it down to those two points, okay, you can probably say that.
But, I mean, Parier's run since then is an absolutely astronomical.
So it would be very foolish of him.
And I don't believe he is overlooking him because you don't get to 27 and O in your career way overlooking guys.
Yeah, I don't think he's overlooking Dustin Porre one bit.
Dustin Pori is obviously trained.
Like, he's the biggest fight in his life.
Dustin Porre is one of those fighters that you hear stories about in the gym.
Like, he lives in that gym, and he's working extremely hard.
I just, I don't think, do you think it'll do bigger numbers than 241, though?
Because I don't.
Oh, no.
Like, just on the timeline itself, like the fact that it's happened earlier in the day for you going,
that kind of loses a bit of magic to it as well.
you know when you don't have it at night time when your day when that's not going to be pretty much the
the climax of your day is watching this big total point like i mean it'll probably be what 7 p.m or
something on the east coast or something when this is going down so yeah yeah i don't i don't believe
it will but what i do believe it will do is portray kivibb like a superstar let people see how much
how he how he's so beloved in that part of the world like i mean what were the pay-per-view numbers for
ufc dublin in 2014 nada because it was on five pass
and it created the biggest star in mixed martial arts history.
That's a good point.
I think it has a different function than selling fucking pay-per-views, you know what I mean?
That's a really, that's an excellent point.
It's just the image of seeing Habib in that hero's welcome.
I think, and I would, not related, but I would like to get your opinion because I talk about this.
We've obviously seen Connor lose a handful of times, like to Habib, to Nate Diaz, to Conner, to Floyd Mayweather,
but he hasn't really lost the aura of being this big, invincible fighter.
Do you think it's because we don't have an image of him?
laid out on the canvas, like just knocked dead or TKO.
All of his losses, lost to Floyd, he didn't fall.
The referee stepped in against the ropes,
and then his two fights against Nate and Habib were submissions.
But we don't have an image of Connor sprawled out on the canvas, unconscious, bloody,
like defeated.
Do you think that is in place, that plays into the factor of he's still viewed as
this invincible warrior that could just beat anybody?
I think he's losing it, to be honest.
I think he's liars in that just because, just because,
of everything that's happening. Like, I mean, his behavior outside of the Octagon is nearly
more infamous than his credentials inside it. And I think the more that happens, it's like we're
talking about with BJ Penn. When the first thing people don't say, like if it's not the first
thing you say when you see Conne McGregor, there's the double champion. Then you're starting to lose
that steam. And I don't know if that's what people say straight away when they see Conna McGregor,
after all the things that have been happening, all the controversies, et cetera. I think,
Connor to get back to where he was, to have that invincibility. He needs to go back in
and he needs to win a big fight. And I know people will say, oh, that's not going to excuse
where he did to that man allegedly did to that man in a pover or whatever. But look at what
Tiger Woods did, and then he wins the Masters and he's the king of the world. Then look at what
Toys and Fury and all his contributions. Then he goes in and he has that fight with Deonté
Wurler. He's the king of the world. Sport is so forgiven, man. It's what have you done for me
lately. And I think the only way he can say to Ship Now is by fighting again.
Well, I know we're going to have questions for you about Connor McGregor, so I'll hold those questions off.
But moving on from...
People be telling me, people be telling him a fan boy in the comments all of them.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
Right.
Hey, man, why watch the video when you...
Why watch the episode when you can just make assumptions on what Peece is going to say, right?
Love you, Connor.
Oh, God.
Don't say that because people are going to clip that, take that one clip.
People take that one clip and throw it all over social media.
But moving on from Sinner 88, evening, Jen.
Fly white title picture.
Dana said last night, the King of Crenge must defend the flyway belt in his next fight against Joseph Bannidis or give up the titles.
What do you think the likelihood of him going back down to 125 to defend is?
I've got a feeling he would rather give up the 125 belt on the hopes of landing a bigger fight
with one of the favorite crews or other top contenders at 135 next year.
Thoughts also, when is Niall McGrath's turn on the A side?
Cheers.
I would love to have them on.
Maybe you can make an appearance with Pizzi sometimes as Eurobash co-host.
We need a lawyer of person just doing soap toys.
We need to keep him sober for an hour.
I was going to say, if he doesn't show up intoxicated, then is he really on the A side?
But, Pizzi, Dana White did say in the scrum, the contendency of yesterday, that he wants
to see Sehudo defend his 125-pound belt.
Sehudo's been saying he wants his bigger fights.
And I actually do agree with his commenter.
If he's going to give up one of the belts, it's going to be the 125-pound title.
He sat next to your eye of favor at UFC 240.
wanted to do like a mock stare down he called out dominic cruz he has josea aldo now calling him out
to come josea aldo wants to drop down to 1 35 to fight for his one of his titles so he's even calling
out valentina shenka for the intergender championship of the world but someone he's not calling out is
joseph benavides and i actually spoke with him on the red carpet before the uc hall of fame and he said
i asked him and go why aren't you calling out joseph benavides and he goes i that loss doesn't bother him
Like he did lose to Joseph Benavitas, but he doesn't like the loss of Demetrius Johnson ate away at him and kept him up at night and he worked hard to get that fight back.
His loss of Joseph Benavita doesn't follow him.
It was three rounds.
He thought he won.
He said Dana White thought he won.
But the Benavitas fight doesn't really seem to do much for him outside of, like, healthy competition.
But as we've seen, Henry Zahudo, it seems to be more interested in these big money fights.
And at the end of the day, he still had shoulder surgery, so he has some stuff to get checked out anyway.
So what are your thoughts on Henry Sehudo's 125 versus 135 title and which one you think he'll probably give up?
Yeah, look, he'll definitely give up 125 if that's the way it's going to go.
But I do think a crucial part of his new success is the fact that he has those two belts, this triple C situation, et cetera.
He's going to waste so much money on merch alone if he just lets that belt go.
So I mean, I do think it's important for his brand right now to be a doubleweight champion.
So I feel like if he wants to keep that up, if he wants to keep this cycle going and he's creating so much, you know, he's creating a lot of interest for himself.
I think that's pretty much reliant on him being this double champion.
So he's got to need to do it.
And I mean, Joey B deserves it.
Let's be honest, man.
He's had a crazy, crazy run.
And I mean, he's been right there so many times.
I feel like, and I know he has fought for the title before he has fought for a total a number of times,
but it's still, it's still making you a fair more bona fide champion if you can go in there and take out Joey B because it's not an easy task.
So I do feel it probably needs to happen.
And if he's not, if it's not going to happen, yeah, he's probably right.
He should vacate the title.
But I believe the title is so valuable to his stock at the moment that he's just going to have to do it, unfortunately.
Yeah, and I like that you brought, I didn't even think about that, but the triple C is his brand.
now. Like if he loses one of the belts and now he's just a double champ, like that, yeah, you hit
it on the head. The triple C is not just a title. It's, it's his brand and he wears shirts around.
He wears his gold medal around. When we were at UFC 241 before the Wayans were on, you've obviously
seen like the ESPN desk on the side. Like they were all kind of mingling, going over their
notes. Like some fans would like come up and ask for autographs. And so Hudo was doing like an interview
with, I think, I can't remember who was like a Latin American station or whatever. And, and,
And all the fans are just chanting like, triple C, triple C, like, behind the thing.
Yeah, so it's like the triple C brand is that important that if he doesn't want to give it up,
he's going to have to fight Joseph Benavides.
And I'm on the record saying Joseph Benavita is the greatest fighter in UFC history to not win a championship.
He's that good.
He just happened to have to be in the same division as the greatest flyweight ever.
And that first fight was razor thin, and then he got called the uppercut and got knocked out.
And I think the big thing, like we've talked about this before, and I know our commenters love when we talk about.
about it I think George is the greatest fighter of all times only because he
avenged all of his losses like he lost to Matt Hughes and Matt Sarah and he
went back and got him back if Henry Seudo got he got the Demetius Johnson
fight back and then he goes and gets the Henry Sehudo fight back and wins like
how is like he's right that he's like one of the five pound for pound
best on planet earth and maybe one of the and he's already like yes one of those
talented fighters inside the Octagon but legacy wise he's gonna skyrocket up the
rankings for greatest USC fighter of all time.
So I think, yes, the Triple C brand is great, but I think avenging that loss.
It might not bother him, but I think it would be very important for the long run,
for the annals of time when we look back on Henry Sehudo's career.
Well, I think it's going to happen.
Look, if he wants to hang on to that belt, it's going to happen.
You know, there's no two ways about it.
You're going to have to fight Joey B.
And if you don't, people are going to say, remember when Dana told me you have to
go to fight and he didn't take the fight?
That's what you're stuck with now.
You're in that third level.
So, you know, if it's going to be just one more fight,
a fly weight and then pack it in, fair enough.
I can understand who wants to get down to that point of weight, you know?
But, you know, this is the game that we're in, unfortunately.
I also think that there's a lot more contenders at Bantam weight,
and they could fight it amongst themselves to figure out some...
Huge.
You know?
Like, we're going to have a lot of fight nights in ESPN cards coming up.
Like, you're telling me he wouldn't watch your eye favor of Al Jermaine Sterling in a main event.
Or, like, Dominic Cruz versus Frankie Edgar in a main event.
We even got- Why haven't you said Peter Jan's name?
What I was about saying?
Peter Jan versus Corey Sanhagen?
Focus on your Europeans, please, for a second, Jose.
Jesus Christ.
Fair play.
Peter Jan versus Corey Sanhagen is another banger of a fight.
So, like, there's so many contenders at 135.
There's one contender at 125 or now.
He's the undisputed number one contender.
So go fight him, let 135 play out, and then come up, and you'll have a clear number.
Like, right now, favor is the big money fight.
But Valdemand Sterling goes and beats your eye favor in, like, a main.
event and he all of a sudden he gets that star rub and now he's the no more contender i like that's
what i would like to see yeah i think that makes sense peter yann versus aljo number one contender
fight just let yore and frankie fight it out instead you know that's what i go for well we'll
move on to the hot from flyweight to heavyweight from the big squish steepe dangerfield
he gets no respect do you get that reference rodney dangerfield there you go
So you got one.
MMA medium, punants alike, are really short-changing Stipe in his victory, claiming D.C. success early in the fight should have carried him to a victory.
But we see this all the time in M.A.
Fighters like Darren Elkins getting badgered and brutalized until they win.
Silvas' comeback against Sun and Connors against Chad, etc.
Where do you fall on this spectrum?
Did Stipe's win the fight by beating D.C.?
Or did he simply win because D.C. lost the fight?
I don't really understand that question.
I feel that Stipe...
I feel like Stipea loved the fight.
He had a championship medal and smarts
to adjust his game plan,
take punishment, and execute it.
I agree with this person
that I think we're...
I don't understand their phrasing of it.
Like, did Stipei win or did Daniel lose?
He made a huge adjustment in the four rounds
that changed the fight.
I mean, how much more can you win a fight?
It was unbelievable.
It was fantastic.
You and you understand it may win.
when they're selling it you were yes I think maybe like I when I watched that
fight a booed me away I mean Daniel was Daniel Cormey was winning the first two
rounds like piecing him up a little bit what like he obviously saw the slam he
out wrestled and outbrow from the first round and the Daniel Cormer himself said he
kind of fell in love with like he punched Steepet and he would leave like these small
bruises around his face and he said he kind of fell in love with leaving marks on
steep space the whole fight and then that came back and to bite him in the ass and he
Like, if you watch, like, you obviously weren't in the arena, but Bob Cook and Daniel
Cormier's corner was having a meltdown.
He's like, wrestle, throw a kick.
Are you even listening?
Like, he's in, during the fight.
He's like, are you even listening to me right now?
Like, so Daniel Corme said he let, he did let his coaches down, but Steve Miochis, he ate a lot
of punches, punches that knocked him out.
He ate a lot of those hooks from the break.
Land, ate a lot of shots,
he adjusted to the body,
and then finished Daniel Kormner off.
And that's not championship mentality.
Like, I don't know what it.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he was unbelievable.
And the first time that left hook to the body landed,
I knew it changed the fight.
Like, the first one,
I know it was about 16 of them before anything really happened,
but the first one changed the dynamic of the fight completely.
You could see DC freeze after him going to go,
well, what the fuck was that, mate?
I was not expecting that.
And then it keeps coming.
It keeps coming.
And he obviously has no defense, like, quick in mind to get rid of that.
And it just keeps happening.
I thought it was genius.
I thought it was an absolutely genius move.
Two really good fights, to be fair, between the two of those guys.
Really, really good.
And different, obviously, because I felt like Steepet was in the presidency the first time,
and then he loses.
And then D.C. is in the presidency this time, and then he loses.
Tremendous.
And, look, Steve A's run has been unbelievable.
Like one thing we've mentioned them already, Noel McGrath has been screaming and shouting about since the first fight was the eye pox.
And I really felt as though DC could have been warned a few more times about the, even though I don't think he's using them to jab.
He's using them to push down the hand and then to jab.
It's just the look, this is what's illegal, putting your hand out like this.
And that was happening a lot.
I understood what DC was trying to do.
Maybe that was what the ref was thinking as well.
Look, he's just trying to push down his hand.
So then he can jab.
But there was a few pokes there again.
again, you know, and we know how much they play a big, big role in fight. So, yeah, that's, I think
he's unbelievable, Steve, the run he went on, oil being champion, to go to Brazil, to beat
for Bisi over Doom, to go in and show everybody, basically, how to beat Francis in Gano, he's
unbelievable. And then to avenge a loss, eventual loss is so difficult. You have it in your head
that you've lost to, you can go in there. And basically, he was chasing that whole fight. He was
probably I think he said, I saw an interview thinking about him when Chale Sunnet or Ariel where
he's kind of saying he felt like he's in Quixan. Well, D.C. was on top of him up for the
first two, three rounds. And then he somehow digs it out. I think it's an exceptional performance.
One of the best heavyweight performance we've seen. And so yeah, I do praise Steve A hope I'm getting
that across there. I do think he's absolutely brilliant. And he's the greatest heavyweight of all
time, I believe, after that. I agree. And Casey and I were talking after like the UFC would be, it would be to
To quote the former host of this live chat, it would be promotional malpractice if the UFC did not bring Stepe back to Cleveland for his next fight.
It would be, like, it would be idiotic.
Like, you watch his first fighting against Overeign when he won, that place went unhinged.
It was like Connor beating Daigle Brando in Dublin.
So I- That's what, yeah, yeah, that's what I heard.
I heard it was just as big as that.
And you said it.
You need that image of, like, Stipe getting that massive reaction.
and him taking the belt from Dana's hands
and handing it to his coach to put around his waist.
Oh, yeah, shit, yeah.
Oh, fuck.
I remember that, that was cool.
That was really cool.
You need that stuff.
Like, he dribbled Overeem's head off the canvas.
He got the CM Punk rub during that fight.
That was CM Punk's debut against Mickey Gall.
I, on the, this is an MMA news show that came out yesterday on our YouTube channel.
I did the focus.
It's brilliant.
I love it, too.
Congratulations, Esther and Casey.
It's brilliant.
I really love it.
I couldn't say enough positive.
of things about it. They were endlessly
on that, but on the bucket segment, I said
I wouldn't hate if they did Stipe
Cormey 3 in Cleveland in early
2020. I know you're a huge
NFL fan and you love football
like American football.
The Cleveland Browns could actually be
good this year, which obviously means so much
to you. And if Steve A...
They're usually so bad, isn't it? See, exactly. You know
exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, I love football.
I love American football. So if the
If the Cleveland Browns show anything and they're good and Steve Pne-Miochitz fights Daniel Kormier around the NFL playoffs,
like the city of Cleveland's going to be on fire if that happened.
So the UFC would be absolutely foolish if they didn't go back to Cleveland next because I
couldn't say, I can't say enough positive things about Steve A. Miotr's.
I know everyone this comments or things were hating on him, but I can't say enough positive things
about him.
and he enunciates things so well as well
and he had a very sweet jig at the end of his victory
yeah so we've claimed him as irish now just because of that
we need because we only have connor and joe now
so we need more bodies so stepe we've taken stepe
johnny walker said we can call him irish for a while
wasn't uh you know steepe was supposed to fight ben rockwell in dublin once wasn't he
and then it fell through yes and then it fell true over there and they made i believe
they made the arloffsky for it or something and ben
Rothwell was like, boy, is this fight even off.
I don't even understand it. Ben Rodwell
actually was a huge hit
with the fans that week. Yeah, because he still
flew to Dublin. He still went to the fights,
right? Yeah, he, like,
no, it got pulled on fight week, so they're all
there. And then suddenly,
was it Arlowski who was meant to fight?
And then they made, or
wasn't Steve? I can't remember. I'm pretty
sure it was Steve A versus Ben Rockwell,
and then Steve A fell out.
And then the new main event
was Louis Smolka versus Pat.
Hulahan became the new main event for that card and then Rothwell was then booked
against Junior Dos Santos in Croatia where he got like King Leonidas kicked back into
the cage and then they booked meotchitz versus Arloffsky and when he finished
our I think it was on that January card when Robbie fought Carl's Condit and when he
finished him he's like give me my belt and then they and then the next fight was
against Verdume at UFC 198 yeah yeah yeah I remember something like this
going down because Ben Rockwell was like what where did it make
and stepe on our lost ski now or something like this he goes we're just here why don't we fight
it was very confusing situation and i forgot the actual question that we're answering so you're
gonna have to refresh my memory well i think we're gonna move on because we've talked a lot about
stepe me oh choate it's all pretty much about the media who's his next point who's his next point
stepe it's either going to be it's going to be danio corme three or francis and donald those
the only two fights that makes sense what about john jones boy passes the whole reyes
wyedman not going to happen walker not going to happen
It wasn't going to happen when it was D.C.
It's not going to...
I don't think John Jones goes up to heavyweight unless it's Brock Leasner.
Yeah, that would be a little crack, actually, won't there?
Yeah, because John Jones has reached, speed, strength.
All of those are an advantage to him inside of the Octagon.
John Jones goes up and fights Francis and Gano.
He's slower, faster, like, less...
Like, might have the same reach, but, like, he's going to have to put muscle on to fight.
Like, John Jones is not going to fight Francis and Gano anytime.
He'll fight Brock Lesnar because he knows he thinks he run through him.
Yeah, I think, like, but as well as that, does Steve not have the right to kind of dictate
things a bit now?
Because obviously, when Carmier won the belt, Steve, I just wanted that rematch, and it didn't
happen.
He's already one-sided, completely overwhelmed in Gano.
So was he in the position to say now, well, why do I have to do a rematch with Gano immediately,
you know?
Well, who, who's next to heavyweight?
like the winner yeah i know i know i know but i mean like sure we interviewed uh fernand lopez before that
weekend and he was saying like you know and ganu beats either of these guys so easily but it's it's gonna be
hard to convince stepe of that after the first fight right like there's no doubt that the danger
is still there it's apparent and it's evident to everyone well yeah i guess there is no one else
isn't there i guess the only other one would like if the winner of uh ivanov and derrick lewis and
maps and square garden like say stepe amyoteu does the rubber match against danio corme in early
2020 maybe francis fights the winner of derrick lewis ivanov for the cement himself to stay active
because i know he probably want that derrick lewis fight back because that was a stinker and he lost
and then if blago ivanov wins what that's like three two three wins in a row against
rothwell tied to evasa and derrick lewis so maybe if francis wants to stay active he fights the winner
of that but last i heard he was going to be in the new fast and furious movie so
He might have his hands full, too.
Oh, you think Goyevina's going to shock a lot of people against Lewis.
I agree.
He fought...
A separate point completely.
He fought Junior Los Santos, like a torn meniscus, I heard, or something like that.
So he wasn't...
That was his debut, right?
Yeah, that was his debut in, what, Boise, Idaho or something crazy like that.
They stuck them over there.
Great spot.
Great spot.
Yeah, you tell me about Boise Idaho sometime, Pizzi, outside of the potatoes.
I will.
Just great football team out there.
That's where I know them.
That's all.
really glad you said that. I'm going to clip that so I can use it for all of our. Yeah, yeah.
But moving on from Eduardo Bueno is Yo-O. Romero, the best fight that's never win a championship.
Hey, guys, Yo-O.L is now on a two-fight losing streak, O and two against the champion, and at 42,
I don't know if you can make another title on. Maybe if Paolo Costa gets the belt, looking back
two or three years, when there was a big four middleweight with himself, Wyman, Rockwood,
and Jaucre, and Yole beat all of them. Also, big wins against Brunson, Machita, Kennedy, et cetera,
and two close fights against Whitaker.
Is he the best fighter to never win a championship?
Or who else could it be?
Who else could be the best?
Okay, Faber, Henderson, Maya, et cetera.
Well, I already said Joseph Vanavides earlier in this part.
Yeah, yeah, I was about to say that.
I already said, I think, Yohra Marr was way up there.
I think he actually, I scored him winning the fight against Robert Whitaker, the second
fight.
But Uriah Fabers, now that he's back, I should say, he's probably what.
Maybe I'll rephrase my sentence.
When I said Joseph Benavides is the best that has never won,
maybe I meant best active fighter.
Now that your eye favorite is back,
I think it's hard to argue against it's not your eye favorite.
Dan Henderson obviously had the pride championships.
Man, that's tough.
It's really tough.
I already said Joseph Benavita, so I'll say that
because he's also beat everyone in the division not named Demetrius Johnson,
who might very well be the greatest fighter who's ever lived.
But I would like Pizzi, who is the greatest fighter to never win a championship?
in the UFC history.
I mean, Mike Bisping used to be my go-toe,
but he had to go and shit all over that one
by winning the belt, so I mean.
I mean, y'all's a good shout.
I think y'all is very good on it.
I mean, he came so close against Costa,
even. That was a tremendous fight.
That was a crazy fight, three rounds.
And I feel like second was a swing round
because y'all came back in that round a good bit
after really eating in the first half of the fight.
Yeah, y'all's a good shout.
Joey B is a good shout.
You're always a good show.
I can't really think of anyone out the top of my head, to be honest, which I'm not, I'm not, I'm not great with that kind of thing.
I don't know.
Yeah, I think the ones that we, like, Yoel's obviously way up there.
Your Eye favors, now that he's back, I think he's kind of cemented himself as the best active.
But I already said Joseph Benavides, and I don't want flip-flop, so I'll say Benavides.
Yeah, I mean, it's those, it's those three, I think.
I think Dustin, Tony Ferguson has the interim title, but if we're not,
counting interim championships.
Yeah, Tony would be right up there.
Tony and Dustin Porey would be way up there for greatest.
But if Dustin Winn beats Habib and gets the unspeed crowned.
If we are not counting interim championships,
I think it's Tony Ferguson because I think he could be the greatest lightweight ever.
But I'll stay with Joseph Vanavitov simply because they don't want to flip-flop.
Right, right.
I'll just say Tony Ferguson then because I hate interim titles.
But damn.
that's one thing that's interesting about that Khabib fight.
I mean, the shadow of Tony Ferguson doesn't seem to be looming largely over that fight.
Yes.
Maybe it will, but I really hope it does, you know, because, you know, we're seeing Diaz talk about Khabib a bit, Habib a bit.
And, you know, that's an obvious fight that a lot of people will want to see.
You don't know whether Connor's going to throw an R in on fight week and stuff.
It's just interesting that I don't hear a lot about Tony Ferguson when they're talking about that Poria and Khabi fight, and that's usually the way it is, you know?
Well, I heard rumors, and this is in no way breaking news.
I heard rumors that someone asked Tony Ferguson to make weight for USC 240.
They asked if you would want to make wait for 242 to serve as a backup.
Man, how disappointed would everyone in Abu Dhabi be if Kabir just right over there?
Oh, my God.
Imagine a world where if, say, Justin Porre gets hurt or like he did it before the Nate Diaz fight,
and then that's how we get Tony Ferguson and Kabid.
Tony Ferguson
I don't care what I couldn't agree more
and I don't know if that's a true story
I just I've heard one I've heard a handful of people
bringing out but we have a we're going to move on
because we could talk about greatest
this and that for a long time
potential opponents for the bullet
from Dennis
Hallman Speedo
you know you recognize that
you recognize that alright potential opponent for the bullet
a lot of people are saying there aren't any real
threats in the 125 pound division to valentine its belt
personally I think the biggest threat
is 115 pound division.
Rose Navajunis.
Her striking accurate, her striking active speed,
and athleticism are exceptional.
I know Valentino would be the bigger fighter
and Rose's last loss was the result of being overpowered.
However, I don't think Valentina would try to overpower her,
but rather to pick her apart in a striking contest.
I seize Rose winning that style of fight thoughts.
I don't think Rose would beat Valentina.
I think Valentina is the best female fighter below 135 pounds.
I think the big one right now is Jessica Androge, Mrs. Valentina.
I think a lot of people have been bringing that up.
Andraj already said she'd be down to fight her.
I think that would be more interesting to me than Rose versus Valentina simply because
Rose isn't the biggest straw weight.
She's not like this, she's not a huge muscular like shizzled fighter like Androge or even
Claudia or Valentina.
And Valentina's beaten Holly Holme like she's beating just Giuliana Pena.
So she's beating larger opponents.
So I don't see Rose beating Valentina anytime soon.
I don't think they're ever going to fight.
I feel like Valentina's going to be in a situation like Anderson was,
a middleweight, to be honest, where it's just,
it's not going to be easy to have thrown her whatsoever,
and then someone's going to come out of nowhere,
we're not going to assume it's going to happen,
and then bang, it's gone.
I think she's one of the best fighters in the world the moment, without a doubt.
I feel like she's probably going to be the most dominant challenge
we've seen for a long, long time.
But you're probably right in the sense that,
the opponent that will challenge her um will will will probably won't be from the from the 25th class like
I mean you look at that situation there chikangin and stuff like that just on the verge of fighting
for that it's like if you put together a three-fight win streak three fight four-fight win streak there
you're going for a title like that's it's nearly the same situation as john jones is in you like
you're just you're out on your own there at the top and it's going to be very difficult to find a wordy
challenge or where we're all like what's going to happen here or just don't see that happen
anytime soon with valentina yeah and i think the name that we haven't brought up is and kasey lyden
obviously our camera and extraordinary who i bring up many a time in this because we have to kill so
much time with his fight talk during fight week um he wants to see valentina on her like work off her back
like she's obviously one of the best strikers on the ufc roster male or female we really want to
see what she would do against like an elite level like grappler or wrestler and i think a fighter that not many
will bring up enough is Tatiana.
She's not the smallest straw weight at all.
Tatiana has elite level wrestling
of an extreme, like a suffocating top game,
like the Habibah of Van Asker.
So I would really,
I think her versus Valentina
would be a very intriguing matchup.
That's a very good show, Jose, I must say.
It's a very, very good show.
You're welcome.
And I will say about the,
I will say about Andrade,
like, I believe she has her hands full in showy.
That's exactly what Valentina said.
She's a beast.
Valentina's like, why is she want to fight?
She has Wiley Zhang next.
Like, don't know.
Like, she has power in her hands too.
She's not, that's not a gamey fight for Jessica Androgh whatsoever.
No, no.
And even you hear Yohanna talking about her and she's like, that's a very tough girl.
There's no ass.
There's no shit, I've never heard of her.
It's like, yeah, no, she's deadly.
If they didn't book Wiley Zhang versus Jessica Androge and they had gone, Tatiana versus Andrage,
I wanted Wiley Zhang versus Yawanna really bad.
I know.
I know Zhang did as well, right?
She was really pushing for that fight.
Either one of those.
But we're going to move on because there's actually a lot of questions about Connor McGregor.
I assume because you're on the show.
So we're going to save that for the end.
But another man from your side of the pond.
So what's next for Leon Edwards?
It really is really likely that Mazurl is going to fight Nate Diaz next.
And if someone had any doubts, now it's clear that Ouzman versus,
now that Ousman versus Colby is going to happen.
So what's next for Edwards?
Should you wait for the winner of Ousman versus Colby?
I think that's risky.
If Mazuel beats Nate, he definitely fights for the belt next.
Maybe Edwards versus Woodley is a similar fashion of Colby versus Lawler.
Like you are already the no more contender,
but here's a former champion for you.
That's very interesting.
I never thought of Woodley versus Leon Edwards.
That is similar to when Colby fought Lala.
He just kind of did the UFC a favor to get his name back in the,
in the title picture. So what is next for Leon Edwards, a man that you yourself said,
doesn't get, you thought he didn't get enough shine soon because too many of his fights
were overseas and not in the United States, he should be a bigger star. So what do you think
is next for Leon Edwards? I think you got to, you got to fight Leon and Birmingham next, just because
he obviously doesn't have the stock and the star power these guys have. But again, as we have said
throughout this episode, if you show someone in their own neck of the woods, getting that big hometown
town pop it compels everyone else we're all sheep at the end of the day like oh people like him
i'm gonna like him too that's how stupid we all are but they really really works and it was actually
a terrible weekend for european i in terms of how displaced our contenders became like look at
hermannson hermanson was like oh well i'm gonna be canaer and then i'll fight for the title
or i'll fight gastolum in msg now tales call on msg who what's a bigger banner it's tilling
Castle him 100%.
Leon Edwards, everybody thought he was going to
fight Masvedal next. Even Masbadal said
in an interview with yourself, I believe, or whoever
of our team was talking to him, he was like, look, I'm going to
fight him, but it's going to be on my terms.
As soon as Nick Diaz did that post-fighting,
it was gone. It was gone.
And for obvious reasons, like, I mean, this
is a bigger welterweight fight than
Usman and Colby is going to be.
Yeah. Probably by like multiples.
So you can't blame the UFC. You can't blame the fans for
wanting that fight, but unfortunately for Leon,
you're left at a dead end.
I feel as though they've got to put them in Birmingham
and they've got to give him a big opponent.
Will you get Toro and Woodley to travel to Birmingham?
Probably not.
It's a lot of,
they have a big situation on their hands with Edwards now
and they're going to have to solve it.
Another person who was displaced that I said to you earlier
was Jan,
because it came out over the weekend
that the UFC were looking at Aljo v. Edgar
or Aljo v. Faber.
So, I mean, that's him.
Like, I mean, everybody was talking about Aljo v. Yan before that,
and that seems to be gone now.
It seems to be all about Aljo V.
Al Javier, Al Javier, Al Javier B. Cruz.
He seems to be off, you know, he's not on the menu anymore.
So massively displaced for the European contenders this weekend, I would say.
But they've got to put Edwards in Birmingham if they're not going to give him a big banner fight.
I think the thing that Peter Yon has going for him is our own David Martin spoke with Al Jamein.
And he seems interested in a possible interim title fight with Peter Jan because those two are like Faber and Cruz and Edgar are big names.
But if you're looking at who's the rifle contender, it's those two.
And Al Jermaine Sterling seems to recognize that.
So he had, I think what Yon has gone for him is Al Jermaine spoke his name and interim title fight in the same sentence.
So maybe that could be a co-main event down the line for big pay for you.
But Masrydal, Nate, like everyone keeps talking about Nate Connor, three, that fight is not going anywhere.
Like that fight you can book at any time it's going to be big.
Jorge Mazuradol is the most popular fighter on the UFC roster right now, not necessarily.
named Nate Dias. Those are the two biggest stars. If you look at our numbers on YouTube after
USC 241, the big, the most viewed videos are Nate Diaz or Hori Madrigal's scrum. Like, those are
the two biggest videos, like metric-wise. And Horyi-Mazerzadzol said they're already negotiating.
I don't know where it's going to be because that has to be five rounds. There's no way that's
going to be a co-main event. Absolutely. It has to be a main event. It has to be a main event,
a pay-per-view, I think. I think that's one of the few fights that could headline a card,
a pay-per-view without a title on the line.
But there would technically be a title on the line
because Nate Diaz said he has the baddest motherfucker in the world belt
and he wants to defend it against Jorge Mazvedal.
Jorge Mazdaal is like, let's do it.
The problem is that Jorge Mazdahl doesn't want to fight an MSG
because he doesn't want to deal with the New York State Athletic Commission
because he said they were rough around the edges
and they didn't treat him right when he fought Stephen Thompson.
The next card would be the, I think it's like 245, 246,
I can't remember the exact number.
But that's the MSG, the Las Vegas card in December because they're not doing the New Year's Eve card.
And that already has Amanda Nunes versus Jermaine Duranem.
As the title fight, like you're not going to put Nate Mazudal over the greatest female fighter of all time in that rematch.
So if they do fight, I bet it would be in January and it would be a big pay-per-view.
And I don't know where.
Imagine Nate versus Jorge Mazidol in that big, that brand new San Francisco arena that they built up in NorCal.
because San Francisco has the nicest arena close to Stockton.
Like you'd stick in Sacramento, you could stick it in Oakland.
But I think Nate versus Masudal in San Francisco, you want to talk about a hero's welcome.
Like that arena is going to explode when Nate walks out.
And I don't think you're going to hear louder booze ever than when Ahari Mazu doll walks on.
That's East Coast, West Coast right there.
Like Mazuadol represents Miami, Nate Diaz represents Stockton.
Like that is like, as Nate, as our co-workers.
or Jed Michoud says like this is gang this is gang shit right here so I think it's it
it can't come out to Blanchett Sam will you he needs to sort out a few things out here for me
man yeah he's a peacemaker on these streets jenn will you don't think it lost too long though
I don't think you would want Jed to be a peacemaker jett would talk his way into a fight
dead could talk his way into a fight with anybody but I think Nate mazadol in san
san francisco because you notice uh Michelle waters and yawanna was tied to the san francisco area before they
switch to Tampa Bay. If they go back to San Francisco, I think Nate
Meisvadole in San Francisco and that brand new state-of-the-art arena would be
massive. That would be that would be Connor versus Diego in Dublin. That would be
Darren Till versus Stephen Thompson in Liverpool. Like that would be steep A
over in Cleveland like that is the fight you have to do.
But I mean it doesn't even matter tonight. He's already a bigger name than all
of these people we've been talking about like they need this hometown thing.
It would just further underlying his situation.
But I do think, you know, Connor probably did,
was kindly slightly slighted by Nate not saying,
mentioned it on that Instagram post.
Like I believe that Nate Diaz is probably looking at all the shit going down with Connor and going,
well, this fight isn't going to happen anytime soon.
Like this, like, why use this moment when he chooses his moment so well,
why use this moment to pitch a fight that has been perpetually,
pitched for the last three or four years.
You know, like, why just say the same thing again and have nothing happened?
I think that's how he feels about it now.
I don't think he thinks there's a guarantee that that happens now.
So he's taking himself out of that equation.
He's no longer stuck to the Connor McGregor storyline.
It's a Nate Diaz storyline now.
That's what I really felt about that.
He has changed.
He has changed pace.
I'm no longer reliant on this opponent.
This man will be linked to anymore.
He is clearly making a step away from that to try and isolate himself.
as a star rather than him and Connor.
That's what we felt about it.
And I'm really glad you brought this up because we're running short on time anyway.
So I will ask me.
This is a very long question, so I'll pretty much condense it.
Connor McGregor from Hefe-O-1.
Why does Connor sound like a thirsty ex-girlfriend every time one of his exes fight?
And then he goes on this big long rant.
Like, it seems like every time one of his ex-opponents shows up and does well.
He can't resist throwing his name into the hat.
Happens regularly, like when Max Holloway, just in Pori and talk about the Habib fight.
If you're not fighting, that's cool, but don't use fighting to keep your name relevant in the fight game.
Yes, Natea and Jorge Maswell both took breaks from the fighting, but they were not insistent on keeping their name in every other headline fight-related.
It seems to me that Connor has more of an ego than a will to actually be relevant again through fighting.
Your thought.
So I think you kind of started this, but it seems every time one of Connor's ex-opponents fights, he's there tweeting about, like, great fight lads or like, I'll fight you, like, so.
And so, like, you've been around Connor probably more than, and his team, probably more than anyone, journalists in MMA.
What's going on?
Why does he throw his name into these situations when his ex-opponents fight?
Yeah, I certainly did.
I think I have spent a lot, like compared to any other journalists, probably more time around Connor than a lot of people.
But not recently, you know, not for the last few years, you know, whatever.
But I feel as though, and a lot of people have said this to me, that it's not about kind of keep missing.
his name relevant with his previous opponents.
They think it's simply a person who's
now. Whereas he's getting some
much negative headlines. He needs
positive headlines and things to
like, you know, so we're not talking about
what allegedly happened in a Dublin court. We're talking
about the potential of a Nate Diaz
Connor McGregor trilogy which will bake all
the records. Like that could be what it's
about as well. This man is a brand.
Like if you haven't realized that
you need to realize it now. Like he is
bigger than needing to
fight an MMA. Like that's the situation.
in now. So, like, a lot of people
as though the latest one was, like,
a way to distance himself from the negative press
he had got earlier in the week. And I don't know,
but I do feel as though he probably
felt slighted by what happened.
You know, by what happened there with Nate,
Nate not saying his name, Nate not getting
the whole fan base interested in that trilogy
fight, him completely changing lanes and going to
Mazuradal. Like, that's one of the theories.
You know, the Conroyneau
always wanted a fight. Like, I mean, it
was literally, I can remember when the fight that was originally meant the headline
UFC Dublin the year after his one was Jorge and Joe Duffy and Joe Duffy got pulled.
And I can remember him saying to us like, oh, fight, fuck, like, just send me in.
Like, that was the type of guy he was, like, I mean, he just wanted to go all the time.
He certainly has become a lot more selective as his star has grown.
And that's probably the more intelligent way to play a game.
But honestly, I don't know what the tweets are about and stuff like that.
And, you know, I honestly don't know.
I feel as though it is a way to change the narrative, though.
That's basically what he's trying to do.
And I can tell you that some people are a little annoyed by it.
Like, I think it was Gavin Tucker.
I can't remember who tweeted.
Like, he fought at USC 240 and it was, oh, man, Mark Goddard was just the referee.
And it was a preland fight.
And, like, you know Connor and Mark Goddard have history.
And, like, Connor just had to throw his name into that fight.
And then someone goes, hey, what did you?
you make of Conner's tweets? He's like, I think Gavin Tucker's like, I don't care, man, like, enough
of, like, who cares where he tweets? Like, he's, it's not all about him because, like, it seems
like the first question, he wins his first fight in like two years and the story of, hey,
they're tweeted at you. Like, who cares? And I'm like, hey, you said it better than anyone
else I've heard so far. Like, who cares what Connor says? He's, I fought, I've been more active
than him and I've been away for two years. Yeah, and I mean, like, I say it again, like,
I feel as though, the only way Connor can really get back to where he was.
is fighting and winning. Like it's not fighting and losing. It's not fighting and trying really
hard and coming up short. The only way he can get back to where he was is to do something like
Night Diaz did and that is not easy. That is absolutely not easy. I think the win, I think though
he should fight the winner of the fight Anthony Pettis. I think that's a fun fight. That's like a
stylistic matchup I think would benefit both fighters like a stand-up striker versus stand-up
striker, both very flashy strikes or maybe the winner or loser of cowboy Gaichi. I know the cowboy
fight is one that's been interested like if Connor beats cowboy who has the most fights in the
UFC that's a that's something hang your hat on and then Justin Gagchi I think is not a smart
fight for Connor McGregor whatsoever but it's an exciting fight like again we said like just
engage you versus like a door would be an exciting fight so yeah uh there's not for us for us like
I mean the thing of Connor is that he's at this level now where he doesn't want to fight unless it's
gonna break right yeah want to fight unless the world stops like I can't
remember um i can't remember what fight was being talked about but there was a fight being talked about
at one stage with connor and like you know in the media people are saying this would be a great
fight or whatever and at that time it was only a few months ago all i heard was he's only interested in
the point knight and kabeb like and you're like what you know this is crazy yeah like we we get it
but like yeah we get it but connor's a brand now like he's not going to fight anyone that won't
shatter records and everything but uh we could talk about connor o'gregor with peter carroll for an
entire episode but we are out of time petech as always the floor is yours or any promo and
my i there's a few questions i saw and i didn't answer because they are specifically i wanted to
say for my promo ptzey the floor is yours though i don't really have one again but um you know
i just like darren till to commit one way or the other that's why i think this is just come to me
right now we need them to either say you're going to be at welterweight or you're going to be
at 185 because it's just making me uneasy.
I just need to know where you want to go.
I don't care which one it is,
but we need a proper plan put in place here
because us European fans,
we don't have a lot going on for us,
apart from all that brilliant titles
we're fighting for later on in the year.
Don't forget that.
But just tell us which one it's going to be.
Just tell us, is it going to be gas lumber at MSG?
Is it going to be Robbie Lawler,
which he told us he wanted to do on Eurobash?
Which one is it?
I'm getting excited,
and I don't know where to put my excitement.
So just chill. Tell us where it's going to be, man. Please. And answer the phone. It's been too long.
I was here before all these guys. Talk to me. Talk to no one else. That's all I have to say.
Yeah, Darren, I would really appreciate it if you only give interviews to mhmapfiting.com. Hey, thanks.
Bye.
