MMA Fighting - The A-Side Live Chat | UFC title picture, UFC 246 pay-per-view price, Kamaru Usman vs. Conor McGregor, Jorge Masvidal's next move, more

Episode Date: January 9, 2020

For this episode of The A-Side Live Chat, José Youngs (@JoseYoungs) and Petesy Carroll (@PetesyCarroll) discuss Conor McGregor’s impending return to the Octagon against Donald Cerrone at UFC 246 ne...xt weekend, Jorge Masvidal and Kamaru Usman’s recent comments regarding the Irishman, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Jose Young's here at M.AFighting.com here with another episode of the A-Side Live chat. Sitting next to me is, of course, Pizzi Carol, Pizzi. What's it like to be drunk on a Wednesday? Well played, sir. Amazing, to be honest. I don't know why more people don't do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Well, it's only 11 o'clock a.m. where I am. It's probably, I don't know what time it is over there for you. But it doesn't really matter. I just assume you're drunk, no matter what time of the day it is. It's drinking time every time. someday when nile is on this show it's going to be me just trying to coerce this conversation into a not drunken rant about god knows what you need to get a translator of noel mcgry ever does the show that's very true that is very true people say what is ptze saying what's this and that saying
Starting point is 00:00:46 like man you don't even know p t's one of the coherent ones uh yeah trained in exactly yeah i've been doing this for years this lad doesn't know what's going on yeah so uh people people People ask for Nile to be on the show. You don't know what you're asking for. But, of course, we have a lot of questions this time, Pizzi. Last episode, a week ago, we did our end of the year picks and this and that. Didn't get a lot of questions, but we did have a great conversation. A lot of, a lot of, I haven't read the questions yet, but I'm seeing a lot of questions.
Starting point is 00:01:17 So without further ado, of course, if you want to ask a question, you can go on MAPFiting.com, leave a question in the comment section, or use hashtag the A7 on Twitter. You can complain about Pizzie Carroll because apparently that's all. you guys want to do. People think pizza's one of the meanest men in the media. Why is he cursing so much? I don't like it. Very sorry, guys. Just to hope I don't ruin your morning with my foul language. Well, pizza, you ruin everyone's morning whether you speak or not. That's true. That's true. And Brian Tucker knows all about that. Hi, Brian. Well, without further ado, we're going to jump right into the questions. This one from
Starting point is 00:01:54 Zukuoka Kegi, longtime commenter, has a lot of people want to talk about this one. It's kind of generated a little bit of a conversation below his comment. So, UFC 246. This card feels like the perfect ESPN card, not a pay-per-view card, and they raised the price. If it wasn't your job, would you still buy this card? Yes, I would, because Connor McGregor is fighting Donald Soroni, and that is a phenomenal fight, but I'll pull up this card in this fight card in general.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I was having this conversation with someone a little while ago, that it feels like a boxing card, where it's a very big main event and then a lot of good fights below it, but it's not stacked like we saw UFC 239, UFC 235, even UCC 245, UFC 244 and so on and so forth. But the main event is, of course, Connaker's Donald Serroney, a non-title fight welterweight bout. The co-main event is Holly Holme and Raquel Pennington, and then after that the rest of the main card is Alexia Linnikin and Marius Green,
Starting point is 00:02:48 Claudia Gidella versus Lexa Grasso, and then Anthony Peders versus Carlos Diego Faheda. That is the main event of the pay-per-view card. that they raised the price so peter carroll if it wasn't your job would you still buy ufc 246 yeah of course i mean yeah there's a reason why this is one of the few cards they've made pay per view in the uk and orleans as well they they know people are going to pay for it like a lot of the times i feel like people get upset with the pay per view in the uk and ireland for ufc because it's just new we've we've never had to pay for it before so it's always going to be that
Starting point is 00:03:20 people kind of pushing against that being brought true but you know i saw far more more of it when people were asked to pay for Habib v. Dustin and say John Jones v. Tiago Santos, I believe they had to pay for two. There was a lot more pushback against that, but I guess ever since this model was rolled out, we had a good idea that it would be the
Starting point is 00:03:41 McGregor fights that we'd be charged for. So I think everybody's happy enough with that. Again, the card, the criticism of the card, I can remember similar criticism of 202 before that happened as well. And that was a phenomenal card. And to be honest, I think we can get people a bit more interested in some of the fights in this card.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Like we've been talking about Tim Elliott v. Ascar Ascaroff for weeks. I'm so hyped. I am so hyped for that fight. And that's on ESPN Plus. That's an early feeling card. And a friend of the channel, Brian Keller, is also fighting on the early prelims as well. So I feel like that's really good. But even more so at the prelims, Modifery v. Barber is a huge test of experience against the young gun.
Starting point is 00:04:23 and we have another one of those in Andrei Fili v. Sadiq Yusuf, that's a fantastic fight. Like, Yusufs look insane. He's been on my radar ever since he was a teenager and he was training in that Lloyd Irvin team. Remember they were just all those young guns trained together. I remember him from back then. He was only 16 at the time. And also Drew Dover and Nazrat Hakperast. Hackparas has had a huge, huge kind of entry into the UFC.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I think he's 3 and 0. And I have, like, apart from select few guys, GSP and Rory MacDonald, I've never seen, for us, a hobby saying this guy is a future world champion. He has said that about Nazrat Hakperast, so I'm very intrigued about the Afghani-born German ahead of this fight. Yeah, and even like if you look at the early prelims, like Sabina Mazzo versus J.J. Aldrich is the first fight of the card. And I've been a big proponent of Sabina Mazzo, former LFA veteran. And that J.J. Aldrich is, I believe, one of Rosemary's training partner. so it does have the loss to Macy Barber
Starting point is 00:05:23 but she was looking really good until she wasn't. I remember similar criticism for UFC 242, the Habib Poriet card, but the co-main event was Felder Barbosa, and then the rest of the card has like, Islamachiev versus Davy Ramos. I think the Curtis Blades fight was on the main card. That was a really good fight,
Starting point is 00:05:39 and then Carlos DeGaaheuf was also on the main card. So that ended up being a really good card, but again, like you brought up USC 202. I believe the co-main event was Rumble Johnson and Glover-Teshirea. That fight was like 13 seconds. We had Cowboy Soroni Rick's story where he, where Cowboy had like that combination finish with the head kick. And then you had, of course, you had Mike Perry's UFC debut on short notice.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And then Tim Bees and Sabah Mahmasi, I want to say, by TKO. So that was the main card. That's a really good main card. Didn't look great on. How do you remember this stuff off the top of your head? It's absolutely ridiculous. Always, every week I'm like, how is you remembering every fight on the main card? I also, well, it's, I just, so people ask me that.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And I just remember where I was and who I talked to at Media Day. and then what my angle was for the fight. So obviously you've been in, have you been in the T-Mobile Arena, correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had the media box seats. I didn't have Octagon side for that. So I just remember looking down into the Octagon for those fights. And I also remember Cody Garbrand knocked out to K. Mizugaki
Starting point is 00:06:38 faster than Dominic Cruz knocked out to K. Musigaki. And then he looked up and was like yelling up at Dominic Cruz, who was in the ESP or the Fox booth at the time. And then that also had Lorenz Laran. and Neil Magne because Lorenz Larkin just put it, beat the soul out of Neil Magny. And then a young upstart name, not even the young upstart, a young up and, a young welterweight named Colby Covington fought on the fight pass prelons against Max Griffin. And I think finished him.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I don't remember how we, I know he won, but I don't remember how we won. But that was UFC 202. That was a really good card. So for all we know, in a couple of years from now, we could be talking about Brian Keller for hella her versus Oscar Asker Ascroft. Yeah Asker Ascaroff Keller versus Osborne. Chas Kelly is on this Andre Feeley, I remember speaking him at
Starting point is 00:07:30 the UFC Phoenix card here and he said that was February 2019 and he said by the end of 2019 he would be champion. Obviously it didn't work out because he only had one fight since then. He's on a great role though, right? He's on a tremendous role. I believe his last loss. I think he's on a two, three, five win streak. I know he has the wins over. He beat Miles Dury and Phoenix and then he beat Shaman
Starting point is 00:07:49 Morais in Sacramento on that Durandumee Aspen Lab card, but I believe his last loss was to Michael Johnson, and that was a very close split decision. So he could very well be on a four or five fight win streak. Has that win over the Go Artem Lobov, has the split decision win over Dennis Bermudez and then wins over Morais and Miles Jury and then has that. I think that loss to Michael Johnson is sandwiched in there, but he could be on a four or five fight win streak. And of course, I don't know if you remember, Max Holloway said Andre Feeley was the hardest hitter he had. ever fought. He said that leading into the Volcanowski fight. So good card. I think it's I still like the comparisons to a boxing card. We have a really stacked. It's a one-fight card. You're, you're paying
Starting point is 00:08:30 for one fight. You're not paying for five fights. I guess so. Like, even though, like, I mean, former world champions there, Holly home. Right. You know, with Anthony Pettis. Like, I feel, that feels a bit more important than, you know, boxing cards, as you say. I feel like, but I guess that the fights just aren't as compelling as some of their previous fights. And that's why people aren't really jumping up and down. Well, look at the last few fight cards. Like, UFC 245 had, what, three title fights. UFC 24 had, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Like, going back to, I want to say, UFC 240 was the last card that really felt top-heavy, where the main event was Frankie Max, and the co-main event was Cyborg and Spencer. And then after that, there were a lot of Canadian fights. And then 241 was obviously stacked. That was the Nate Diaz, Anthony Pettis, Romero, Costa, and then the heavyweight champions for the world. Then you had the Abu Dhabi card, and then you had the Melbourne card, and then you had the BMF Championship,
Starting point is 00:09:25 and then you had the three title fights to end the year. So we had, dating back to August, we've had all these stacked pay-per-view cards. This one might not be as stacked, but the main event is obviously going to have massive intrigue. I can't even remember what I had for me. Lunch. I'm very impressed with you, do you know.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I could probably name all the paper-view cards of the year, but I won't do that. Let's do it. Let's do it. So there was no pay-per-view in January. that was canceled, but they had the first ESPN card. That was Sehudo Dilleshaw was the ESPN Plus car. That was also Page Van Zanz's last card.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Greg Hardy fought. Donald Soroni fought Alexander Hernandez on that card. February was supposed to be Robert Whitaker and Kelvin, but then Robert Whitaker fell out. So then it was Anderson Silva versus Israel-Assania. March was the John Jones Anthony Smith. That also had Cody Garbrandt versus Munoz, Askeran versus Lawler.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Who's the Co-Man event? was that of that oh that was Camaro and Tyron Woodley that was when Camaro B Tyne Woodley that was March April was was 236 that was Israel out of Sanya and Kelvin and Holloway versus Porier
Starting point is 00:10:34 that was the Atlanta card then when Sean L. Shottie had to sleep on a couch for like the first day because his hotel was like messed something up so he didn't have a hotel room May was May was Rose Andrade and then Anderson Canaaner Aldo Volcanowski, B.J. Pen, Claygwita. I actually didn't watch that card because it was the same day as the Patricio Pitbull, Michael Chandler, MVP, Douglas Lima card in Chicago. So I went to that one.
Starting point is 00:11:01 June was 238. That was a Hudo Marlin, Ferguson, Seroni, Valentina, Jessica I, like that card. I think that had the most top 15 ranked fighters on one card ever. Joanne Calderwood was on that card against Kyle Chukagian. uh just get to get to the get to the get to the got to them events here so we can keep testing on this two 30 not 239 was joan santos uh nunez home um mazvidal uh askrian rockhold yon blakovitz uh edmund shabazzian was on that card uh 240 was holloway edgar cyborg spencer two 41 was the heavyweight championship of the world and then nate dyes uh petis ramaro costa two 42 was the habib porier card 243 was the Melbourne card that was Izzy Robert Whitaker Dan Hooker Ayakinta 244 was
Starting point is 00:11:53 BMF between Mazudal and Nate Diaz and then Kelvin Till was the co-mate event and the 245 was the three-title fight between Usman Covington Nunes Duranami and Holloway Volcanowski Jesus Christ that was that was pretty impressive my god imagine if you would have done that to me and it was just me staring at the camera for 10 minutes like this right it happens it happens it happens my It's been like there's been I don't know what was there was there was there was there was there was there January card at in 2018 I don't honestly remember because it's been it's been oh you kidding me I don't like again I don't know what happened yesterday all
Starting point is 00:12:30 right it's gone all right now that's that's all I have because I think because UFC 207 was the Rhonda Amanda Nunes card that was in December 208 16 17 I can't remember the year but then there was no pay-per-view January because they wanted to be the headline that in Southern California and And then 208 was the Brooklyn card between Holly Holme and Durandami and Anderson Silva, Derek Brunson. So, like, they skipped that January. So they skip January a lot, is what I'm trying to say. Because they usually stack the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:13:02 They run out of headliners because like that. Usually, did they not use to always do Boston in January around the football weekend? Oh, 220. That's right. UFC 220 was DC and Ghana, or DC Vulcan and Ganu. That was in January. uh you're right but out that so that was ufc 220 so then ufc 219 was the holly home uh cyborg and then habib uh edson barbosa card yeah that was in december i think there's always a good time to
Starting point is 00:13:31 deal with them in um in january there of course because of new england patriots and stuff but uh not so much this year right that doesn't bother me it'll bother child shoddy i'm not oh i wasn't trying to take shots i wasn't just doesn't bother me man but anyway we're going to move We can talk about Pizzi's terrible memory for the rest of time, but more questions from Seeley Axe first-time comments are I believe on the site. If Jorge loses his next fight, will he have to fight Edwards? Well, he doesn't have to do anything. I also think Leon Edwards is already tied to that Tyron Woodley fight. So if he, maybe if they both lose, like if he loses to Woodley and Mazurado loses whoever his next fight is maybe. But if he loses, I don't imagine he's going to
Starting point is 00:14:15 fight Edwards next. I bet he fights Colby Covington next if he comes up short. because they would both be coming off losses or maybe he rematches Nate Diaz. So no, I don't think he has to fight Edwards. Do I want that fight? I like that fight a lot, but I don't think he has to do anything. There's a lot of other fights for him to take. There's a lot of things that people don't really understand that much about Leon Edwards.
Starting point is 00:14:34 There was a lot of hype building up in the UK about a potential fight between him and Till for a while. But as soon as Till lost, he was like, I'm no longer interested. He's lost all his momentum. I'm after rankings. I'm after the belt. I don't care. If you lose, you're out of my...
Starting point is 00:14:47 you're off my, you're out of my crosshairs, you know what I mean? And I think that's a really legitimate and sporting way to look at things, you know, it's not about generating interest for Leon, as you can probably guess.
Starting point is 00:15:00 But, like, I think that's about meritocracy for him. If you're winning, if you're the top of division, he wants to fight you. If you're not, he doesn't give a shit. Yeah, so even about,
Starting point is 00:15:10 a win, as long as he's winning, he's going to stay relevant, which I think he, I know we're going to talk about it later, but he said he, he would take the shot against fight against Connor over Usman.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I think if you're Mazur Dole, you see Connor as an easier fight stylistically than fighting Kamara Usman. Kamau Usman's bigger. He's a wrestler. He's not going to generate. It's basically higher risk, lower reward to fight Kamara Usman.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And he said the belt's always going to be there. He doesn't have to fight Usman for the belt. He'll fight whoever. So he wants to fight Connor McGregor, but Connor has to win first. If he loses, I think we're both in agreement the Nate Diaz trilogy fight is most logically, is logically the one that makes sense
Starting point is 00:15:46 if Connor does lose to Donald's running, but I don't expect that to happen. We'll wait for our preview show when we're both in Las Vegas doing this show, which I cannot wait to do. But no, I like, but that fight is not even booked between Ty and Woodley, right? Like, that's just all hearsay at this point.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah, I mean, we were talking about it on Yorobach early December. We heard that it was either going to be Woodley or Edwards or Hermanson or Till. And I think two weeks ago, Mike Bond said it was, it reported as in the works and then of course
Starting point is 00:16:20 Leon came out and he how dare he abuse Tyron Woodley's ill spitting game you can't do that my friend if he's dropping bars like that you've got to stand off for a second like you know slag is fighting ability
Starting point is 00:16:34 slag it's like everything but don't don't attack his rap music or else he may not fight you in London yeah he's a big threat Tyon Wundley has spits venom and apparently Lynn Edwards made fun of it so but then
Starting point is 00:16:45 can I ask you just one question about his venomous rap. I'm wondering about, is that a real thing, him doing that the take his horse to the old, whatever it is, take the Old Town Road. I saw a version of that with Randy Couture singing the chorus and Tyrant
Starting point is 00:17:04 rapping in between and Randy's like, I'm going to take my horse to the octagon and I nearly disappeared, I cringe so much. Was that for? the World MMA Award because I know they do skits. I think I don't remember
Starting point is 00:17:22 because I know Ben Asking did a baby shark did a baby shark parody and they ended talking crap about Dylan Danis. I don't honestly know but that sounds terrible from everything. I just sent me to a day and I was like I can't I don't maybe maybe it was Leon actually. Me Leon posted it
Starting point is 00:17:38 and that's what the rap that he chose to diss but I always say that the only one of those skits that was ever worth its weight in gold was Carmier and his love of chicken. That was my favorite. I think it was cake. Oh yeah, sorry, what was the rap? I don't remember. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Can you send Old Town Road? For all of our viewers, can you send Old Town Road? You're lying. You're obviously lying. I got the I remember that Randy was doing it like it was a fight team though. It wasn't the lyrics of the song. Everybody watching or listening to this after the fact can you tweet a piece of Carol
Starting point is 00:18:14 that he's a liar and clearly knows the words to Old Town Road by Lil Naus X. What's his name? Lil Nas X. I thought it was a Tyron Woodley song, to be honest. You thought Tyron Woodley wrote Old Town Road. No, anyways. I didn't know your man's name, though.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Like, best look to him. My man's name. That's funny. Lil Nas X is a cool cat, though. He seems like a fun guy to hang out with. Anyway, moving right along. No, I think about the man. From Lodovic.
Starting point is 00:18:38 What's up with your... Long time, commenter. Legend. The legendary Lodovic. And Matt the donk. through a question in two. What's up with UFC titles? Middleweight.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Izzy wanted to be an active champion, fight three or four times a year, yet we're three months away from his last fight, and he has nothing announced what's going on there. Well, to wait. Jesus. Well, we're going to go down. So, middleweight.
Starting point is 00:18:59 What's up with Izzy? Not fighting right now, Pisa Carroll. Last I heard, he wanted to fight Romero in March. I assume he's holding out for more money, but I don't know of that for sure. Yeah, I guess so. Like, the guy isn't, like, really active. I just feel like it's very harsh to be like,
Starting point is 00:19:13 what are you doing? mate hurry up and fight he wouldn't be the one i'd say that about but uh who's yeah i can try romero like the fact that he's calling out romero should be enough for fans to get hyped yeah man like that's an awful fight for him like that's that's the one fight if you could pick a single person in the division and go joan i think it's going to be tricky that's the one fight so um you know fair play to him for even entertaining it like he could easily say look romero's coming off a loss i have no interest in that um so whenever that fight happens i'm ready to watch it and I'm pretty sure that Adasanya isn't going to get to the stage where he hasn't competed in a year or something like that.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I just don't expect that to happen with him. Yeah, he'll fight before the summer and then I'll probably fight two, three more times after, depending on physically how he comes out. Because, like, again, Moro-Haw-Mazvail said it perfectly. You fight Yo-A-Ramero. You're physically never the same again. So I know Izzy wants to be an active champion, but let's see how he physically is after fighting Romero first. Welterweight. Is Mazvigal next?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Or are we waiting for Woodley versus Edwards to play out? I think if you're Usman, you want Masvedal to be next, right? 100%. As we've said for the last three, four weeks, everything is hinged on January 18th. If Connor wins, Masvidal might want that fight first. If Connor wins again, we need to remember how much clout this guy has
Starting point is 00:20:38 if he's in a good position. I mean, more powerful than any fighter probably in the history of the organization in terms of what he can make them. do what he can what he what he what he can architect for himself so you know I feel like the welterweight title picture and we'll probably move on we'll know what's going on after january 18th but yeah I think if Connor loses Masved al fights Usman if Connor wins there's going to be a lot of talk of of Connor and Masvedal I don't know if it'll happen and maybe if Connor wins usman will fight Edwards if he gets true uh Turin Woodley but I do
Starting point is 00:21:15 think that that's the fight to make right leon edwards versus uh tyrant woodley look at that that that seems to be a perfect fight in amidst all the confusion that's a good fight to make i agree and then we always have colby covington returning at some point i know his jaw is wired shut so he probably won't be fighting until late
Starting point is 00:21:32 2020 if he fights at all this year so there's a lot of when he returns he's going to have a huge impact it's going to really shake things up you know what i mean depending on when he re-enters that situation regardless of the loss he's going to really shake things up And then for all we know, Nick Diaz is getting a return. And then we have another wrench thrown into the cog.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Bantamweight, do you think they actually give Aldo the next shot? I hope not. I agree. I love Jose Aldo. I think he's a genius. The greatest featherweight ever, you know? I thought he was brilliant against Marilyn. You know, I can't say enough good things about the guy,
Starting point is 00:22:14 but it just doesn't make sense to do things like this. you know yeah and i know uh i believe it's damon has a piece coming out with marlon marlowe's where marlin kind of spock uh talks about it uh jos aaldo calling all hendr sehudo and hendr sehudo wanted to fight josie aldo so it doesn't it's a weird situation for the peter yons and al germain sterlings the marlin marlin marlorese is even cori sanhagen will probably have a fight uh late early spring late like the the early spring late winter uh it's a little bit it's a little it would be disappointing if Josie, I mean, I like that fight as a martial arts competition. Like, I like Aldo versus. Oh, yeah. Oh, stop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I love that fight, but I don't want it to happen. I want Jose Aldo to fight your eye favor, rematch at Bantamway, or I know our cameraman extraordinary Casey Leiden will want who he calls the most intimidating. Have you heard what, have you heard this? The most intimidating fighter on the UFC roster, Ryan Hall. That is what Casey Leiden to calls Ryan Hall because no all that him explain it to you
Starting point is 00:23:19 but he wants Ryan Hall to fight uh Ryan Hall to fight Josealdo next which I like that fight too probably won't happen he called him out right with Damon Damon did the interview at Ryan yeah
Starting point is 00:23:28 it was it was Ryan Hall took to Instagram it called up Frankie Edgar and Josealdo I like both of those fights that either of those fights are probably going to happen because Ryan Hall is as
Starting point is 00:23:38 Casey Leiden says again the most intimidating fighter on the USC roster well you know I don't want to disagree with Casey because he already beats me regularly and I have to see him next week. I mean, I've been conditioning my body by getting my friends to attack me with sticks. Yep.
Starting point is 00:23:54 But I still not comfortable to disagree with him. So, yeah, I absolutely agree with that. Yeah, there's a difference between sticks and Casey's fists, though. Casey's fists are much harder. He uses weapons as well. Yeah, they're called his shins. Light heavyweight. What's next for John Jones after his inevitable win over Dominic Reyes?
Starting point is 00:24:13 That's a little disrespectful, but okay. I feel like the division has to do something if they want them to stick around there. Like Lloyd Heavyweight needs to, they need to make something happen really. I know it's a bad thing to say, but I can't see a reason why he wouldn't go to heavyweight after this next one. And I kind of expect it to happen because you can only say something so many times before people actually just go, you know what, just stay where you are, mate. Like, you know, and I feel like it's been flirted with for way too long. And I just feel like at this stage, there's no one that you're, you're, you're, you're,
Starting point is 00:24:47 going like, oh, he's going to have real trouble with this guy. Maybe a lot of people where the, maybe more casual fans are getting excited about Johnny Walker and stuff on his assent, but look what Corey Anderson did to him. Like, I think if Anderson beats Jan, like, if people actually listen to Anderson, they would be compelled to that fight because I am. I think it's a very good fight, but I just feel as though Corey, you know, I feel like if he's going to do it and kind of obscure anyone else's title shot, it would probably be Corey on the wrong end of that and John going to heavyweight, you know, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I think if Corey beats Jan, similar to how he beats Johnny Walker, I think we could get that fight between Corey Anderson and John Jones, especially because Corey Anderson's been talking a lot of greasiness at John Jones. Remember, he showed up at that autograph signing in New York, so the seeds have been planted. He had a great scrum backstage after UFC 244 in New York. Really? After he finished Johnny Walker, he was getting very emotional.
Starting point is 00:25:44 So I think if Corey Anderson wins and says the right thing, and generates enough buzz because like you and I said, after that Johnny Walker fight, Corey Anderson was the one we both wanted to fight John Jones. And Casey said the same thing on coffee talk. Like, Corey Anderson is the one people are talking about. Like Dominic Reyes might be a more exciting fighter,
Starting point is 00:26:02 but people are talking about Corey Anderson, how he just barreled over Johnny Walker. When Casey, Esther and I went to the Dominance M.A. Media Day, Corey Anderson had the best interview of that day. It was brilliant. Like we interviewed Kelvin, Camaro, Marlon, Justin Gagey, Cody Garbrand, Ali, like Corey Anderson had the best interview that day. And I remember after that interview, Casey was like, wow, I am sold on that Johnny Walker fight now.
Starting point is 00:26:28 So if Corey Anderson wins, I like that fight. And then I think if John Jones, I would obviously favor John Jones against Dominic and Corey Anderson. John Jones beats those two. There's no one left in the division that I can think of outside of Johnny Walker stringed together a few more wins, then go up to heavyweight. Fight Rumble Johnson a heavyweight. You guys never got that in light heavyweight. might as well fight a heavyweight, right? Yeah, yeah, I agree with it all.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Like, I mean, Johnny, Johnny's unfortunately, has been knocked down considerably. He has a big client ahead of him to get back to the top of that mountain. So there's no point in me saying, yeah, John, stick around here for four fights, you know. Like, I'd love to see the Corey fight. I'd be disappointed if he didn't fight Corey. I think Corey's story is tremendous from where he's come to where he is now is unbelievable. So I'd love to see that fight. But, yeah, I think, I think, John.
Starting point is 00:27:17 is going to heavyweight maybe in the next year. Well, thanks for the question, Lodovic. He said, thank you. Long live the scissors. Oh, thank you. Sorry. I was just reading something about embargoes and what have you there.
Starting point is 00:27:32 So I got lost a little bit. Oh, my. All right, let's see. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Connor above featherweight. If Connor loses to cowboy, and this is from a long time commenter trumbo, if Connor loses to cowboy,
Starting point is 00:27:45 then despite, then despite winning the light, weight belt. His record after leaving featherweight will be two and three. He had a large size and reach advantage at featherway and his power translated there, but they're much heavier, allowing him to finish fights early. His conditioning and cardio issues play no role at featherway in his run there. My question is, if Connor finishes his career as a less than 500 fighter above featherweight, would it be fair to say that featherway is, was the division where he was an elite fighter? And above featherweight, he's an extremely talented fighter, but not an all-time grade. He loses to Cowboy and then say Nate and then loses to Nate in the trilogy and retires.
Starting point is 00:28:23 What does his legacy look like? Undefeated at Featherweight, one in one at lightweight and one in three at Welterweight. Very interesting question, Trumbo. We talk a lot about Connor being this great fighter and so on and so forth. I don't know anyone calling him the greatest lightweight of all time. He's obviously one and one and one at Welterweight right now, if I'm not mistaken. So if he loses to Nate again and he loses to Cowboy, he'd be one in three, Welterweight. and he's 1-1 at lightweight, losing to Habib, who's undefeated
Starting point is 00:28:50 and then throwing a perfect game against Eddie Alvarez. So, for as much as we hate seeing Connor on the scale of featherweight, as Trumbo presents it, is featherweight the right division form, considering that's where he clearly had the most success in his career? Here's the thing. We thought Connor was done with featherweight before he signed with the UFC. Really? He fought Ivan Butchinger, and that was a short notice thing.
Starting point is 00:29:15 He was meant to defend his cage warrior's Fedaway title. Jim Ehlers pulled out who was he was meant to defend it against, and they made the vacant 55 title against Butchinger. Now, when he fought Butchinger, he looked unbelievable. If you haven't watched that fight, it's that beautiful left hook that he knocks him out with dead. And Butchinger is a serious, serious piece of work. And after that, Connor, as far as I knew, was hoping to stay at 155. And I can remember I interviewed him.
Starting point is 00:29:43 So that fight was on New Year's Eve. around then. And in February, it still hadn't been announced that he'd be making his debut in April. And when I was talking, saying, like, you know, he didn't know what was going to happen because, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:56 there was a few things and blah, blah, blah. Those few things turned out to be the UFC wanted to sign him as a featherweight and he wanted to be a lightweight. Interesting. So, yes. So he came into the UFC as a featherweight, obviously obliterates Marcus Brimidge.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And then the UFC are like, okay, we need this guy to stay a featherweight, you know what I mean? Because they could see that he was stimmered. all this kind of interest. But I will say that Connor's best cut to featherweight is one of the ones that's most disputed.
Starting point is 00:30:24 One of the ones that people were like, oh, look at the stadium, it was against Aldo. Yeah. And, well, I think actually Siver and Boston was a pretty bad one, but the one against Aldo, he had brought in Lockhart. And that was the first time
Starting point is 00:30:38 that SBG or any of their fighters had got an elite nutritionist inn. And he made that with so much ease. I think he could have stayed a featherweight for even longer But I think at that stage he was you know He had won that belt He wanted to go on to new pastures get some new Uh, silverware
Starting point is 00:30:54 But um It's amazing that you like look Based on the numbers you're giving us there And look he absolutely like one of the one of the greats of featherweight But uh if he had his way it wouldn't have happened at all maybe you know That's uh interesting I think would you put Connor third as greatest featherweight after aldo and holloway yeah I guess so
Starting point is 00:31:17 I guess his greatest contribution to the featherweight division was the knockouts making it hot and really putting a spotlight in that division because until him I can never remember that many casual support as being interested in that division I think he really allowed these lighter weight divisions
Starting point is 00:31:38 to be to really thrive and stimulate them across the board because even like the 35th champion is talking about Connor the 55 champion everything around it even though 55 has always been a great division and i think he's one of the greats look like he hasn't had the best run in the last year he's he's had bad things go on outside the octagon but connor mcgregor's a name that we're never going to forget in this sport young he'll be so synonymous with this sport until the end of time as far as i'm concerned and he's probably gone out as one of the great fighters in mima history you know what i'm me without a doubt, even though he is the third third best featherweight. Well, I think he's, well, I think when you break down greatest fighter, you really have to break it down
Starting point is 00:32:22 between like greatest fighter in terms of actual ability and then prize fighter. There's not been a bread of prize fighter than Connor McGregor. Like, win or lose, you want to watch that man fight. In terms of actual fighting ability inside the octagon, I
Starting point is 00:32:39 wouldn't put him as the greatest featherweight, lightweight, welterweight, or whatever. I've maybe top 10 talented, but in terms of prize fighting, he's probably number one. I can't think of anyone like Ronda's up there, Brock Lesnar, Chale Sutton, like these aren't the greatest, most talented, but you pay a lot of money at the end of the day. You pay money to watch these guys fight. Even Ben Ascreen was a great prize fighter. Like he might not have been the most talented, but you wanted to see him fight.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Amazing. Yeah. But I do feel as though, because he hasn't got that win since 2016, that initial run is overlooked to some degree you know like um you know it hasn't been the greatest room for connor look we don't know where he's at really until we're going to see him against errone but that initial run the ufc was unbelievable like i mean it was the sporting moment of a whole generation in this country you know what i mean it was insane i mean he captured america by storm i mean i i remember during the like the nfl playoffs that were on fox like they
Starting point is 00:33:39 were showing conne regregor commercials of him hyping his fight against dennis seaver and like i'm watching this these highlight these these previews and on there like they're building of dennis sevar to be like this world-class world-beater that could steamroll over connor and i'm what he trying say dennis sever is a is a great fighter he's very talented he his kicks are his kicks are great as my voice cracks i didn't think he was going to be connor mcgregor and all of a sudden all my friends who are tuning in to watch the patriots are like can connor beat denis sever I'm like, yes, he can absolutely beat Dennisiever. Are you kidding me right now?
Starting point is 00:34:13 Like, to go from, like, who did he beat Dustin Porreier, and then he fought Dennis Seaver? Like, I thought Justin Porre was a harder fight. Like, would have been a harder fight than Dennisiever. And people were, like, building up Denisiever to be this, this, like, this force of nature. And then all of a sudden he does that to Jose Al. I'm like, I got, I got nothing to say. That, like, Connor in that stretch of time was something to be hauled. I had to stop, like, going for, like, a point.
Starting point is 00:34:39 point in my local pub because I'd just be in and dated like there'd be like a circle around you what's going on what's he doing what he's just like I can't I can't fucking do this anymore you know I mean why I don't watch like the last time I watched a mixed martial arts event in a bar was Ronda versus Betchko hair if people we don't get to do it because that's 6 a.m. you know what I mean right so it's just me going to the pub like six months out from a Connor for you and it's that crazy like it was insane it was insane like honestly it was insane like Never happened again. Like when Rhonda fought, obviously the world stopped to watch her fights.
Starting point is 00:35:14 But like, I remember going to a bar for the Ronda-Betchkehah fight. People were like, do you think Rhonda can beat Betchke-Kahe? I'm like, I think so. I think so, guys. And then people were like, when is Kimbo's slice fighting? I'm like, that dude died, man. Like, come odd. Like, when Brock Lezor fight him, like, he's not even in the UFC anymore.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Like, these are the type of fans that would come out for Ronda Rousey fights over here. Like, they would just want to, like, people would be like, God, stand them up. Like, why is, like, or the best was that card both of the Nogar brothers fought. Like, Big Nog fought Stefan Struve, and I think Little Nog fought Shog on that card at UFC 190. And then someone was like, this guy just fought earlier on the card because they're twins. So they thought Nogera fought twice in one night. And I was like, they have different tattoos, guy.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Like, what are you talking about? Like, anyway, I could talk about nonsensically American M.A. fans all day. But we're going to, we're going to hop over to Twitter. Sean Denny from Denny Ransse. Hashtag the A site on Twitter if you want to see your question. What are the high points and low points of MMA media room food? How do they fuel the media? So, Pizzi, I don't know how they do it in Europe. What's the food? What's the food scene over there? They always make sure they have 17 different types of potatoes for me because they know
Starting point is 00:36:29 I'll just leave. If they don't have boiled, mashed, roast, gratin, everything. I want to see every single potato you can make in that country. And that's pretty much as far as I go, Sean. You know what I mean? After the spuds, nothing else for me to do, really. And if the spuds aren't up to scratch, you just leave immediately. That's why I've always done it.
Starting point is 00:36:49 But thank God that I'm in my fighting understand. Peace of care. Loves his potatoes, everyone. T-Mobile Arena used to give us food vouchers. That was kind of annoying. So we'd have to go to like the actual concession stands with like a $15 thing. I can remember Ariel Hawani,
Starting point is 00:37:05 being sent him oh i know i went out there with him it's a nightmare broadcast yeah he's like inundated trying to eat a burger or something you're like this is crazy right i remember one time i went and he's like jose can you go get me my food i can't i don't want to be this going he's like i can't go to the concourse without being mobbed by fans i was like yeah i got you but now at the tmobile arena they not only do they have food they have like two different courses it's kind of nice i don't know if you were at you were you at ufc one ninety four the aldo mcgregor card Yes, yeah. Do you remember they had the three cards in three days?
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yeah, and the Cosmo, remember the Cosmo? That's what I was about saying. The first night of the Cosmo, someone messed up the catering. So they got like, yeah. So they got like prime rib and lobster bisque and like flatbread pizzas and like a carving station. I remember Dana White coming in and be like, what is this? Why are we spending so much on the media? And then the next day, I think that was the Paige Van Zandt Rose card.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Oh no, that might have been Frank Egg or Chad Mendez. I get the days confused because those happened back to back. And then the next day, it was like deli sandwiches. It's very funny you say this because if you can imagine that fight was huge. That was Connor at the height of his power. And we had loads of really famous, like well-known writers from Ireland coming over to foil for the papers. And they, of course, weren't interested in Frankie and Mendez at the Cosmo. Didn't give a crap.
Starting point is 00:38:29 But I walked in and I saw the field. And I sent a picture to them. And next one, there was 15 Irish media guys. Well, at UFC, at the Israel Adasanya, Brad Tavares card, that was at the Palms. That was the ultimate fighter finale. They would give, like, boxes of food. So, like, you'd go in, there would be stacks of boxes of, like, sandwiches. And then all of a sudden, like, there were some media people, like you said, newspaper guys,
Starting point is 00:38:52 that didn't care about the tough finale. They just cared about the D.C. Stepe Miochitz fight the next one. And all of a sudden, they bring out a sushi cart. And I'm WhatsApping a bunch of photos to, like, the Canadian and like Hispanic media and they're like I'll be right there and then they're just there they don't even cover the fight they're just there for the food Vegas is expensive man Vegas is expensive all right moving on from MMA Duration at MMA duration
Starting point is 00:39:20 Do you think Mazdaal and Covington will fight this year? I say no I say no as well because Usman and McGregor are there at play if if McGregor loses against Saroni which I don't think is going to happen I think it's better chance of it happening then, right? Because then you can go. I think if Masvid al-Farer Al-Ozman and he beats Usman, the UFC would have no problems of making Mazved al-Vi-Col because of the traction it would probably produce, I think.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Especially if they do make Israel versus Yowl, and then they'll have a precedent and they can, off they go. And next of all, Sehudo will be matched with Aldo and everything else would be happening like that. Well, also, who knows when Covington's going to fight again? I mean, his jaw is wired shut right now. Oh, shit, yeah, okay. He might not. He might fight once in 2020, so who knows who will fight.
Starting point is 00:40:08 But no, I don't think that fights happened. From Gerardo at J.C. Doulos 1. Interesting question here, Pizzi. Would you rather take one clean punch from Inganu for $5 million or one clean head to take from Edson Barbosa for $1 million? I'd take the dig. I would, because he doesn't say where Ngano is punching me. Is he punching me in the head or is he punching me like the leg? Wherever, like, oh, I'll eat it.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Well, if. Well, if it got to punches me in the head, I'm going to die. So if it's like, if I'm taking a punch from Ngano or a head kick from Barbosa, I'd probably take a head kick from Barbosa because I'll probably go to bed, but Ngana will, like, kill me. I'm just eating the Angano dig. I'm just taking it. But if he's got to, like, punched me in the ribs,
Starting point is 00:40:57 I might break a lung or puncture me. Break along. Like Inganu might stop my heart if he punches me in the chest. But if he punches me in the ribs me in the ribs. leg, whatever. Punch me in the leg. Just give me a dead leg, yeah. Ah! But a guy who punched me in the chest could kill me.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yeah, yeah, that's true. But I just want to be able to say I did it. I want, no, I don't actually, because then everyone's going to be like France's punch pitch next time you see him. But Babos is terrifying. Like, I feel like, that's going to be, just imagine looking at them going, like, right, go. And they're like, blah. It's not the smart.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Like, oh, no. You know, you speak logic. I think it is the Barbosa. Just like for the future generations of the carols, I think that's probably the best way to go. From John Balt's longtime listener, he always tweets about it and he tweets. Clearly, Pizza Carol knows the words to Old Town Road
Starting point is 00:41:52 and Wivesley didn't sing them because he didn't want Lilz Nas X's publishers coming after MMA Fighting's YouTube channel. So yes, thank you. That's fair. Alex K. Luke of words there. Alex K Lee tweets,
Starting point is 00:42:05 check out Jose Young's rattling off dates and details of events off the top of his head hashtag the A side. Man, those crystals most really work. J.K. crystals are stupid. You're stupid, Alex.
Starting point is 00:42:17 And then... That's personal. That's getting personal widows now. You can't... And then... In the reply, though, Mike Bonn of M. M.A. Junkie writes
Starting point is 00:42:25 Child's play, still waiting for details on the trivia challenge. Mike Bonn, you don't want... You don't want that, man. I talked to Ariel once because Ariel does like the the trivia game show between fighters. I'm like, oh, dude, we should have NBA fighting and NBA junkie because I think me and Bond would go after.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Yeah, you would be useless. You would be very useless, but I think I could carry the load. I think me and Bond would go after. I've been calling out Bond for a trivailing challenge for a long time. Casey would be good at that as well, actually. Casey and Esther would be good. Casey would be good. Someone asked us if both sides got in a fight, like a battle royal who would win?
Starting point is 00:43:00 I just like literally put me in there with the anime junkie lads and I just carved them all of I said that but I also said Casey would probably also help Casey would probably use you as a weapon he could use me you up listen Casey can use me to do whatever he wants Ew Neil McGrath says Piz he stole my microphone It's true story actually yeah but I gave him a career so what I think it's a fair trade Oh Damon Martin also throws his name in the half on our side goes I will crush at MMA trivia. So yeah, I think me and Damon would dominate that.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Just leave me outside that. Joseph Corbally, Corbilly? Corbilly. He responds to Nile. Yeah, but you could just steal Elaine to be fair. I'm sure he'll give it back. Yeah, I'm actually afraid to let Elaine be around Noel such as a sexual prowess. And just he exudes a sexual energy that, you know what I mean? I don't think you'd be able to control herself. So I've been keeping her away from him for a long time and he's dead right, Joseph. That's your 100% agree with you. I mean, like have you ever been around Noel
Starting point is 00:44:09 McGrath? He's one of the sexiest man in the world. I mean, he's up, he's up there, but I think anyone's standing next to you is one of the sexiest man. I'm just being honest. Well, played. Is this? Who's this? Okay. Uh, from another question of Joseph, how do he's pronounced his last name? Corbilly? Corbally? No, don't do. You see, that's the mistake you always make when he's over-pronounce things. It's Corbylie. Corbyle. Well, I want to be polite, because I don't like what people call me.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Hey, Corby. Ailey! What's your question, sir? Jeez, Louise. Well, with Arnold Allen losing his opponent, will he get his rightful spot on the London card? And if so, who should his opponent be? Rebook it.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Just do Emmett v. Arnold Allen in London. I agree. I've been saying that since the word go. I mean, if Emmett's able to turn around in eight weeks, that's a perfect fight for London. That's just someone named Stuart Tucker. Well asked pretty much the exact same question. He said, I would like to see Arnold Allen versus Shane Burgos in London.
Starting point is 00:45:07 That would be a brilliant fight. That's a great fight, especially with Arnold Allen had fought Americani to a split decision a couple of years ago. And then, you know, Borgo's destroyed Americani really in his last out in their MSG. So I think that's a good fight. Yeah, definitely. And Borgo's a great fight to watch as well. That's a very tricky puzzle for Alan to solve. Alan versus Calvin Cater would also be a really good fight,
Starting point is 00:45:30 but Calvin Cater is coming off a loss. From Andy Stevenson, would Connor McGregor benefit from switching to a different Irish gym? I can't do that. No way. Someone replies, imagine the absolute mayhem that would cause. Oh, there'd be people screaming in the streets for weeks.
Starting point is 00:45:47 No, like, I mean, if he was ever going to go, the thing about Ireland is, when people started suggesting this, like he needs to get out of Ireland, it was when he was bigger than like you know he bigger than jesus here like i mean people no i mean they lose their fucking minds like i've been around him when he's walking around dublin it's crazy man it feels like i feel like when you're that much of a celebrity um in your hometown um there's a million reasons why you shouldn't go
Starting point is 00:46:18 training right you can do absolutely anything you want you have the keys to the city um so i think if if he was ever going to leave it would be to leave ireland you know i agree agree. But I don't think that's ever going to happen anytime soon. I mean, he brought John Kavanaugh and Artham were in his corner to fight Floyd. Like John Kavanaugh is like a jujitsu coach and Artham is a 500 MMA fighter and they were in his corner to fight the greatest boxer of our generation. Like Owen Roddy, I get. Owen Roddy is a phenomenal boxing coach. But like I did not understand why John and Artham were in that corner. But Conner's loyal. So I mean, He didn't surprise me, it confused me.
Starting point is 00:46:57 They all just wanted those sweet waistcoats, I'd say. That was a nice outfit. Another question of Stuart Tuckwell. How many current Cage Warriors fighters does Pete you think will be in the UFC by the end of the year? I think Modestis has a good... Modestis Bukakis has a good chance of getting signed because he's from London.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I had that London card. I think Joy Herbert, who was the featured fighter on our prospects list this year. He's a teammate Leon Edwards. I think that will be his perfect entry. if Leon Edwards headlines London get joy underneath them to put a bit of a shine on him. I also really excited about Jack Cartwright, who won the Bantamweight title on that tournament in one night he knocked out Marco Kovacevich and Scott Malone, two former title contenders to win the belt.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I'm really, because I don't know a lot about him, I'm intrigued to see him, and with a record like that he could see himself signed, and I also think that Ross Houston is on the verge of signing for someone. Ross Houston, I believe, is on the verge of signing from, like a lot of people are interested in them. I'm hearing Bellator, one championship, UFC, everybody interested in them. So that's what I hear anyway. So I'd say four maybe, maybe between two and four and hoping for four, obviously, for the fighter's sake. Yeah, I mean, I believe you.
Starting point is 00:48:17 But like Bellator is doing a lot of big things in Europe. Could a lot of those guys sign with Bellator too? Does it have to be the UFC? Or does Cage Warriors not have a good relationship with Bellator right now? No, there's a bit of a jousting session going on there. But generally Cage Warriors, once you have the Cage Warriors, the UFC are going to sign you. Like, it's only a matter of time. I think 100 fighters have gone from Cage Warriors to UFC.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I doubt there's any other promotion in the world with that kind of record. It's 94 or something. LFA probably is way up there. Yeah, I'd say so, yeah. But what happened recently was that Sorin Back sign for Bellator over. the UFC. That was the situation that we were told. Both of the promotions wanted him. Back ended up going with Bellator. He won in his debut against Terry Brazier, a former Obama champion. So usually it was always Cage Warriors to UFC. I guess Back has broken that mold. Maybe
Starting point is 00:49:10 Houston will go on and do something similar, but most of the time it goes Cage Warriors to UFC. Someone in the YouTube comment section complimented your Adidas outfit, by the way. Oh, thanks. I'm only wearing the top, though. I have a full truce tracks you, but I've got jeans on the same. His exact phrase was, dude on the right is rocking a Jonathan Davis, Davis Adidas outfit. I don't know what that means. I don't know who Jonathan Davis is, but he's obviously very handsome and stylish.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I assume he's just drunker, you know. Okay. All right, let's see. More questions, because a lot of the questions are just about Connor, which we've talked about a lot. Thoughts on Canadian fighter Jordan, young gun, unmean, signing with the Bellator. signing with Bellator 31 and 12
Starting point is 00:49:54 So Jordan Mean I believe debuted around the same time as Rory MacDonald but he fought at an insane rate so he has far more total fights than Roy McDonald but they debuted around the same time
Starting point is 00:50:06 I think he debuted when he was still a teenager he might have been like 19 maybe 20 so yeah what do you think about Jordan Amin signing with the Bellator after his UFC run Well I think he's a very exciting Florida first of all Like I think he's always in great striker matches
Starting point is 00:50:21 his great knees, great elbow. I mean, it's just a vicious kind of guy to watch Jordan Main. So I think it's a great sign. I think they could stimulate a lot of interest in their younger fighters by putting them against a guy like Jordan Main. And if Jordan Main ends up overwhelming those guys, he'll be right in the mix there in the division when it comes to the title talk. And look, he is named value straight off the bat.
Starting point is 00:50:43 The fact that we're talking about him, the fact the fans are asking about him, it's a big deal. Looking at his record, he's also a former Strike Force champion. He made his debut, not champion, Strike Force Fighter, made his debut in 2006. So in the last 15 years, he's fought more than 40 times. His losses are to, he lost to Jason High back in 2010. He lost to Mike Ritchie in 2009. Then Tyron Woodley, Matt Brown, Tiago Alves, Emil Weber Meek, and Bilal Muhammad.
Starting point is 00:51:11 So he's not losing to Bums. He does have wins over Mike Pyle, Dan Miller, Eric Silva, Alex Moreno. So Cyborg Santos, Evangelize, Evangelized, Disse, Santos back in the strike force time so with Josh Berkman Joe Rigg so he's been around the block he's been around the block and I'm just looking at his his like early records he fought June his UFC debut was against Roy or not USC his MMA debut was against Roy McDonald June 2006 he then fought in August September October twice and December so in 2006 he fought one two three four five he fought six times in 2006 not only did he fight
Starting point is 00:51:50 six times 2006 he fought six times between June and December all you need is an eight-week camp don't see the big deal and then in 2007 one two three four five six he fought seven times in 2007 so in two years he fought like 13 times he's like Travis Fulton he was trying he was out for his record there at the start of his career was and that's like Travis Fulham wasn't even caught weight like Jordan Mee was cutting down a welterweight or middle-lay or whatever it was so dude is a monster and probably I think I don't know if it caught up to him, but I remember his knockout of Mike Pyle. God, what card was that?
Starting point is 00:52:28 Oh, man, I can't remember what card that was. I want to say it was one of those, it was either the Tulsa or the Albuquerque card. I know Benson Henderson headlined it, but I can't remember if it was against Rustam Kabilov or RDA. And then his loss against Matt Brown, I know, was on the Strike Force. I mean, strike force. It was basically still the Strike Force card, the San Jose card, Benson Henderson versus Gilbert Melendez up in San Jose.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I think that had like 11 finishes and 12 fights, something crazy like that. That was an unbelievable card too. I know, of course, but I didn't have to tell you that. You already knew that off the top of your head. You know, I know Jordan Maine, but Jesus Christ, I don't know his ontology that well. I'll tell you that much. My God, what type of blood type is he already? I couldn't tell you, man.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I don't know what type of blood type of anyone is. I can tell you when they fought, but I can't tell you their medical history. Moving on. Let's see. Do, do, do, do. Oh, interesting question from Hefe-O-1 on the site. is Tony Ferguson a lightweight George St. Pierre. Their styles and skill sets are very similar.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Stick with me here. Both have top tire wrestling. I was gone already, so he needed to say that. Both have top tire wrestling. Both work effectively behind a jab. Both have extremely high fight IQ. Both have impeccable ground and pound. Both have solid jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 00:53:38 The only difference I see is they apply their skills in a different manner. Tony likes to strike more and counter-wessel, while GSP would rather wrestle first. I know all mixed martial artists are well-rounded, but am I wrong with my assessment of their skills? I don't think anyone is like George St. Pierre, and I don't think I've seen a fighter quite like Tony Ferguson. Not to say they have similar skills.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I'm sure Tony Ferguson could fight like George St. Pierre if you wanted, but those two are so unique in their skill set that, no, I wouldn't compare those two, but I wouldn't compare anyone through those two. Yeah, that's what I was going to say when I heard the question before. It was just Tony Ferguson, like anyone is just no. is complete unique but like the points you've made you're right like I mean if you isolate those
Starting point is 00:54:22 things he's right that he does those things as well but I don't see them being similar to be honest at all as fighters I don't I think they're shockingly different actually they're extraordinarily different Alex K Lee to Mike Bond says you don't want
Starting point is 00:54:38 none of Jose Rain Man Youngs or Damon a beautiful Mines Martin that's just that's a little rude just because everyone's afraid of Alex because he carries guns and um you know he's a steroid abuser they crush your school if he met you in person so i mean that's why he's able to talk like that because everyone's going to be like all right Alex don't send your goons around here to step in my face again so hope you're doing well Alex please don't hurt me or my family thank you
Starting point is 00:55:04 damon says we would crush junkie guys in an actual fight i would pick up might bond and use him to beat up the rest of the staff uh yeah i'll just to sit on a throne in the background as a final boss in case anything needs to be popped off. Damon also, I think, wants to clarify the Jonathan Davis comment saying he's the lead singer of corn. Oh shit. Yeah, yeah. Baw, bachabagabagabagabong. That song.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I know that one. That's it. So I take my face and bash it into a way, my image. I am at a loss for words. What just happened right now? Just give it. You see, I know the words of that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:46 But that's the only, that's the only, yeah, bit of that song I know. So, let's recap the last few months. What did you saw, you sang Dido a few weeks ago. Yeah. And now you're seeing corn. Yeah. Didn't have, what's the, what's his little name to go with the rap? That's not Tyrone Woodley?
Starting point is 00:56:06 Lil Nas X. Yeah, I don't know his tunes, but next week, next week. Can you sing, what, what's the, what's the UFC? song? No, I don't know. Like, like, I get excited when I hear it, but I don't know what that man is saying. You get excited when you hear that song, Face the Pain. Yeah, like he's talking about finger painting. That's all I know. Finger paint, dude, there's something that is. Finger paint. Finger paint. That song, yeah. That's all I know. I believe he's saying face the paint. He's saying finger paint. Oh, okay. Everybody knows that. At the quintet grappling match, they did like the USC
Starting point is 00:56:43 versus Strike Force and everything. They had the teams walk out to music, and that's the song Team UFC walked out to. That's Magic Mud. Finger Paint is a great song. Finger Paint is a great song. So recap, P.C. is a big fan of corn. He can sing everything verbatim.
Starting point is 00:57:00 And he's a big fan of the UFC's theme song, Finger Paint. But we're running out of time. I don't have any corn albums. So if he's could tell me which one can get, I'll get one. Don't lie. I'll download it right now. Just tell me which one to get. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Everyone on Twitter just tweet corn things at Peecey Carroll. Let me just see which ones that we have here. Corn with a K, not with a C. Corn with a backwards K. Doesn't do that on Spotify. Just straight up normal K. Right, so should I download? Follow the leader, the nothing, which sounds very positive.
Starting point is 00:57:33 See you on the other side. Jesus Christ. Now, I don't think these lads are very positive. Actually, after reading the tiles of some of these songs. MTV Unplugged. That's the one I'm getting, lads. Yeah, lovely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:44 But anyway, we're running up on time. So per usual, Pizzi, any promo you want to cut or any other songs you want to sing? No, I forgot about the promo again. Shit. Oh, yeah. I'll tell you, this is not a promo. This is just me telling you. What the hell is going on to start Akira comic book?
Starting point is 00:58:04 I have literally read the same 50, like 25 pages over and over again going, what in the name of Jesus is going on here? And then it gets to a part where it says, there are no people allowed come into level five or something. I'm like, I don't know how we got here, and I don't know what the hell's going on. Like,
Starting point is 00:58:21 am I not looking at the pictures enough? Like, I don't, I can't follow the plot. Is it because I'm old and I have no imagination? This is what me and Elaine decided last night. You're like, if you were reading this when you were younger,
Starting point is 00:58:32 your imagination would be a lot more active and you'd be drawing conclusions from the images and then adding to the dialogue, whereas I'm just kind of going, I don't know what's going on there, reading the dialogue, and then moving on and I don't have a clue. So your promo is being confused about Akita?
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah. Akira, as we call her in Dublin. I think everyone in the world calls it Akira outside of people actually in Japan. But bring it over to Las Vegas and I will give you a crash course on how to read comic books or the people on my Twitter
Starting point is 00:58:59 can just go after you. People always try to set up a fight between me and Robbie over at Barstool because he's a big comic book nerd too. And people are always like, oh, you should fight Robbie. You guys are both called. that actually yeah I'm just like all right guys come on now I've seen you guys
Starting point is 00:59:14 trying to be really nice to each other as everyone else is like yeah they're trying to they're trying to pick a fight between us but uh yeah bring it on over uh we'll I'll give you a crash course on how to read comic books uh yeah that's gonna be a great video for MMA fighting's YouTube Ptze getting learning how to read a side live uh how to read comic books with Jose Young's as Piz he just goes duh do I go right to left it's confusing it's confusing right like I mean It's really not. Isn't, I don't have a clear.
Starting point is 00:59:43 I bet you started off of the wrong book. I have one, it says one. All right. And it starts off him going, are you number 43 or something? And he's like, yeah, bring it on. I believe it's 25 or 26, right? It's on his hand. No, it's on it.
Starting point is 00:59:58 It's on his palm. It starts off, he's like number 43. And then, you know, the mango is like, yeah, whatever. And then there's like, carnage. And then he's like, is that you, Canada? And I'm like, Canada. Good God, you even pronounce it like an idiot. It's Kaneda.
Starting point is 01:00:15 So the way I said it again, yeah. It's Kaneda. Then he shows up and then I'm like, and then, I don't know. Who were the police with? Because the police seem to be with one of them. Yeah, just keep reading, my friend. Just keep reading, my friend. There's Canada and Tedsoe are the two main characters.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Then Akita will show up later on. I didn't even know the book had anything to do with Canada. So that's another curveball. Did you think Akuto was the guy on the front of the box? The kid on the bicycle? The kid on the motorcycle? No, I thought
Starting point is 01:00:46 that was like a collective name for the Garda over there or whatever. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, just keep reading. But to stick with the theme of this conversation, apparently, Roxanne Modafari fights Macy Barber at UFC 246.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Fellow Weeb. Obviously, you watch the Risen card and the Bellator Japan card where Michael Venom Page walked out with the Naruto gear and the four leaf, not four leaf, hidden leaf village headband and the knife. Roxanna Malfari has been one of the long-time opponents of animation who's wearing the Dragon Ball Z wig.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Israel Adasanya does the Rock Leapose. He did the death note. And he summoned the spirit bomb against Robert Whitaker. He did the Naruto run before he fought Brad Tavares. And of course, I can't forget Alex Ceres, who's one of the original OG weaves of the UFC. We're everywhere and we're not going anywhere. Again, I'm not a bad dude.
Starting point is 01:01:37 those guys are bad dudes on Roxanne Mottifari fights, Macy Barber, UC246. I know Pizzi already said it's pretty much a veteran versus a prospect. I believe Roxanne Mottifari has more fights in the last, like, two years than Macy Barber has an entire career. I think she has, so Roxanne Montefari might have more fights in the UFC slash the ultimate fighter than Ratsam... and then Macy Barber's had in her tiger. So I love that fight. I think that fight car, that fight is flying under the radar. I believe that's the featured pre-limb fight,
Starting point is 01:02:08 and I'm very excited for that scrap. Absolutely. Maybe Roxanne can tell me, like, a few things. You know, because I feel like... Ooh, that'd be a good video. I think you're very aggressive with the way you're trying to teach me here. Like, I'm not... I don't need that, like, kind of energy.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I need to be, like, an arm around me. You know, I was always more like, come on, Pizzi. Like, we know you're the greatest of all time. Just show us, and I'm like, all right, then. And that's when I do my shit. I know, I have pizza. I'm like, Pizzi, just because, you're always drunk
Starting point is 01:02:36 you have bad hair you have bad hair you're not the greatest looking guy Elaine's only around you because she hasn't met anyone else in her life it's no it's no reason
Starting point is 01:02:48 for you to feel bad that you can't read comic books it's actually the way I keep Elaine is by getting the dog therefore it's like a child and she can't leave now well there you have it folks Mike Bonn says
Starting point is 01:03:00 I was the one who first mentioned it set it up so yeah Mike Bonn come finally me UFC 246 fight week if you're there if not come find me someone was talking that kind of shit to me I just walk up and loafed him as soon as I saw them
Starting point is 01:03:13 how about when you see Mike Bond you just go up and push him over let's table top him I'm not fighting your words for you right just take your beating like a man I take it no beating anyway for I'm Jose that's Pizzi we'll see you next Wednesday more actually in Las Vegas for the A-Sai
Starting point is 01:03:31 we'll be sitting next to each other trying not to get trying not to get hands on each other. Casey might have to sit between us so we don't come to blows in Las Vegas. Pizzi, you can't get drunk that early over in Las Vegas. I believe it's gonna be 10 a-A-A-A. Who says? Who says like that?
Starting point is 01:03:46 That's true. Is that a challenge? Yeah, that is a challenge. We're gonna have to do A-Side Live right into open workouts. The Piz's gonna be like, where am I? Just like stumbling around Las Vegas.
Starting point is 01:03:56 But for Jose, that's Pizzi. We'll see you next week in Las Vegas. See you. See you.

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